Ahh thats not too bad tbh
#pc-build-help-and-tech-talk
dusty pumice
fleet canopy
I could just get a 5700 XT right now, but ehh
It might not fit my case and CPU might be fucked to hell
Well Faye is running a fucking 7700K at 5GHz and a 2080 Ti, Jesus fuck
dusty pumice
I believe faye updated to a 9900 but not sure
fleet canopy
It still says 7700K at 5GHz on his steam profile
dusty pumice
Oki then maybe not lol
fleet canopy
ㅤㅤ▷ㅤCPU
ㅤㅤㅤ◯ㅤIntel Core i7 7700K @ 5.0GHz (Overclocked / Standard = 4.2GHz)
kek
9900K is the price of a 5700 XT
Or a bit more, since 9700K is more closer to that price
fleet canopy
7700K is 350$, price of a 5700
I wonder what made my brother get a 7700K
Probably was on sale
dusty pumice
I stil have a i7-7700k but in another setup
Always been giving me troubles
Shits been overheating and making all my pc fans go crazy lmfao
fleet canopy
Black Friday is coming up though, it might be a great time to get most of my build
dusty pumice
Stil havent been able to fix the problem after like a few months of asking people for help and testing shit myself
fleet canopy
Oh yeah I still need to find a good fan intake/outtake placement for a H500
dusty pumice
Only thing left was actually taking the lid of but im stil gonna do that whenever ill be using the system again
For my new setup ill be looking in those 3 combined fans i seen alot of people recently started using those
brb toilet and grabbing drink
fleet canopy
Mmk
dusty pumice
Ok i am back
chrome chasm
Hi back, I'm dad
fleet canopy
It is only activated by 'I'm'
chrome chasm
I am dysfunctional
fleet canopy
kek
fleet canopy
Okay
fleet canopy
Hm
dusty pumice
Mhmm
fleet canopy
Mhm
copper zealot
So i finally built my system and my buddy was saying i need to upgrade something due to a bottleneck but i can't for the life of me tell where. System specs are:
3900x
32gb ram 3600mhz
m2 ssd main
sata ssd gaming storage
2tb normal stuff storage
gtx 1080ti
Is it really even worth it to upgrade RTX for ray tracing that doesn't exist or vega 64 if i don't go above 2.7k?
fleet canopy
And 2080 Ti is bullshit expensive
late sorrel
Or 17%, I always mix it up
copper zealot
I don't go above 2.7k though
Pretty sure the only place it leads out is higher resolutions right?
keen rapids
Deleted my earlier messages didnt see your specs
Nah dont upgrade apollo just a waste of time and money
Here in a year or two price will drop
Your rig is more than capable of handling anything that's thrown at it
sick reef
You don't have a bottleneck.
My first assumption is that your friend is stupid.
Also, Vega64 would be a downgrade.
And 2080 Ti is between 15-30% better than 1080 Ti. But it is also a dick measuring contest at that point.
Any bottleneck would be:
Poor RAM performance due to a cheap construction, but almost has to be off-brand china stuff.
M.2 not properly supported/running at SATA HDD speeds.
Boot OS running on HDD.
Cheap motherboard, once again, off-brand cheap china stuff.
Your actual computer screen being 720p75Hz something.
Bloatware/Virus performance hogging.
Inefficient cooling. Ryzen 3 is heavily temperature dependent, and even small infractions of tempeature increases can lead to drops in performance.
Ranking from least to most likely.
copper zealot
@sick reef none of that, samsung B die
mainstream boards evo and other known good ssds, os ssd, screens are asus benq mix 120hz ect... and clean system with 9 fans in tower + 212 cooling
runic pulsar
Someone please assist my pc keeps black screening after startup
I’ve waited and tried restarting
🙁🙁
naive matrix
Check all power connextions
runic pulsar
I have
runic pulsar
I don’t think it has anything to do with the power connections
Cause it loads up
But it just goes black screen after load up
naive matrix
Do you get past bios?
runic pulsar
And I’m able to move my mouse around
naive matrix
Reseat your GPU?
runic pulsar
Don’t know I just got past my basic startup screen but the screen did take way longer to load
And said please wait below it
I’ll show ya
naive matrix
Sounds like either a GPU issiue or possibly a bios issue
runic pulsar
How do I reset it?
naive matrix
Or your mobo may not be recognizing your HD
runic pulsar
I know little to nothing about PCs
naive matrix
Look up how to reset <mobo model>
runic pulsar
Will it delete anything on my pc?
runic pulsar
Ah*
Well kinda unrelated but I use an hdmi to project my pc screen
Just letting you know
naive matrix
runic pulsar
Watching now
naive matrix
You would still boot to hd
runic pulsar
Ughh I don’t have a windows disk available to me
My irl friend had all that stuff when I got my PC
This is so bullshit why did this have to happen before the alpha
I had friends ready to play with me and everything
@naive matrix Im on the dual bios menu
@naive matrix Are you still there cause I really need help with this part, my bios menu looks completely different than this dude’s in the video.
old scarab
you can download windows from MS site and put it on a thumb drive
runic pulsar
How am I supposed to download it without a pc?
late sorrel
oh no
old scarab
yeah, id figure you reply with that ;p
late sorrel
no laptop or anything?
runic pulsar
No
old scarab
library? friend, etc...
fleet canopy
Hm
runic pulsar
I just really want to fix this
naive matrix
Bios are different but what you should be looking for is the same
copper zealot
If you can ctrl alt del and task manager comes up
naive matrix
Again looking stuff by your mobo model will be more accurate @runic pulsar
copper zealot
close windows explorer and restart
open cmd prompt as administrator file run
run /sfc scannow
old scarab
im trying to understand prior chat, it blacks out at the bios or when booting into windows.
runic pulsar
@naive matrix i cant find what hes looking for
Listen
It loads up
The black screens with my cursor
copper zealot
ohhhh that on startup keep hitting f7 or hold shift on restart
runic pulsar
The only thing i can do that is actually operational is open up my bios
copper zealot
if windows 7 do vga default setting under safe menu
copper zealot
If you hit f7 on startup it will do an advanced menu
runic pulsar
Okay*
copper zealot
If you see it, windows is there but you can do a VGA selection that will kill off extra drivers and run default
If that doesn't work you are looking at a windows recovery
If you are windows 10 it will bring you to troubleshoot PC go to advanced
old scarab
if you can get into the bios, check that your drives/hardware is showing up properly in the system
runic pulsar
F7 does nothing
copper zealot
Load up OS on a USB stick and reload it, from recovery prompt
runic pulsar
I don’t have that
copper zealot
Do you have windows 7 or 10 or dont know?
restive badge
@runic pulsar Why you're just don't call a master?
runic pulsar
What?
copper zealot
What does boot menu show?
restive badge
You don't have PC Masters?
runic pulsar
I dont have any money to be spending right now
restive badge
Oh, ok.
urban gulch
do windows boot manager
runic pulsar
I did
It just restarted
Now its just loading
Now its black screen again
@copper zealot you still there
copper zealot
Yea, playing NS to while it goes
Pretty sure you need to get a USB stick visit google, and type "windows 10 ISO" do the microsoft link
get the windows media creation tool
and then load it to the USB boot it to the troubled computer
and repair
The latter would be download HIrens boot CD
copper zealot
and run a chkdsk on the machine from windows RE (Recovery environment)
runic pulsar
To do that with
runic pulsar
Well no I watched a video showing something I could go to in the bios menu but it’s completely different
And i looked up fixes for my bios menu and theres not a lot
copper zealot
Bios is one thing but it is loading windows with a black screen, which mean drivers
runic pulsar
Most arent even in english
copper zealot
What brand is the device / machine
copper zealot
So a custom PC build?
runic pulsar
No, I bought it off bestbuy.
copper zealot
after it makes it to gigabyte screen keep tapping f11 see if it will get you to the windows 10 advanced menu
copper zealot
unless you can get to windows 10 advanced menu from f12 or other, you will need a 10 iso or key
runic pulsar
My pc info
I really don’t care if I’m not supposed to show my mac address cause at this point it’s fucked anyways
@copper zealot
copper zealot
your pc is most likely fine
your windows 10 install is jacked
which is why the drivers are not loading
the only other option is your fx card is gone
Do you have an installation cd?
copper zealot
Unless you canhttps://support.cyberpowerpc.com/hc/en-us/articles/360014173613-How-to-Boot-to-Safe-Mode-in-Windows-10
try this bottom option to get to advanced menu
also if you have another VGA source on the back of the pc try plugging into that if you use an external card and it is available
if you refer back you link or hit f12 load windows boot manager tap f11 / f7 like your life depends on it
if nothing wait for cd and reload windows
runic pulsar
None of those help
Cause again the most I can do is hit the command keys and open bios
copper zealot
wait for cd and repair and or reload OS
use f12 to boot from CD select repair you will then see troubleshoot options
worst case install win 10 again
stupid question, but did you do an update before this happened? like a bios update
or something non-windows
plucky tangle
I never update bios anymore, unless something isnt working to begin with, or an update comes out which is beneficial to me.
steep whale
could a i5-7600K 3.8GHz run the game on atleast decent settings?
i know my gpu can just wondering if my cpu can too
runic pulsar
I contacted my PC company
They told me pretty much the same thing
They said that I’ll likely have to reinstall windows with the disk or usb
copper zealot
yikes, yea though so. I'm a Microsoft IT pro ect... by certification. I do consulting. I'm pretty good with the ins and outs of windows and linux
thorny granite
Ew penguin pc’s
copper zealot
all of your interwebs run on the penguin
thorny granite
Ew interwebs
copper zealot
android and mac are based off of it too
Also this program's netcode
most likely....
cosmic vapor
I got his disc that came with the computer but the computer doesn't have a disc tray to install it.
thorny granite
Glorious
fleet canopy
Is there any fans that are black, red, or black/red color?
Want it to match NZXT H500 black/red color case
cosmic vapor
@fleet canopy
Rapid Ship Special GTX 1660 AMD Ryzen 7 3700X Processor 16GB ADATA XPG Z1 3000MHz RAM ASUS TUF X470-Plus Gaming AM4 RGB Motherboard 512GB Intel 660P M.2 NVME SSD + 2TB HDD.
The disc itself says Tuf Gaming x470- plus
fleet canopy
I asked for fan recommendations for myself, oof >.>
Oh yes
I possibly found the review
Who was the furry guy
bronze cloak
owo
bronze cloak
Okay, from this I would assume that the cooler had bad mounting pressure or something else causing bad interface with the GPU.
There will always be some units that end up with those kinds of defects, but in most cases (including this one) it is a minority by a significant margin.
fiery nacelle
could be that one particular card's poor cooler installation or thermal paste application
surreal flame
I am in the construction of my new equipment, but I want to know your opinion and see your valuations regarding the components used
fleet canopy
Is it gonna be for work?
Seems to be for work anyways, looks alright. Not sure what the SSD is though
proven grotto
looks overpriced and a lot of sub-optimal part usage imo. not really cost effective
fleet canopy
It's more suited for workstation like Blender, so it's fine
fleet canopy
We rather you didn't post any discord invite links on the server, so delet
marsh mesa
In the future please ask for permission to post a Discord invite, this time I'll let it slide since it wasn't advertisement, it was a helpful resource. @proven grotto
proven grotto
understood.
marsh mesa
Thank you
proven grotto
You can also check /r/buildapc reddit.
my comments are (i dont know EU pricing like i do NA)
I think a lot of these are overpriced and don't necessarily perform well for their price range or suit your purposes.
for NVME drives theres cheaper options with significantly bettter capacity and cached storage segments.
RAM is on the expensive side for RGB 32GB
You can use a b450 motherboard for way cheaper just doing a bios update
2080 is overpriced and isnt doesnt stand up well in price-performance to current offerings, like compared to AMD 5700 XT
Monitor is super overpriced. Thats the price of an ultrawide 1440 144hz IPS. I wouldnt buy a TN/VA for that.
and if youre doing VFX work, you should definitely get a 1440p IPS, and for gaming you would want 144hz.
late sorrel
5700XT does stand up well price-performance though?
2080/S doesn't stand up price-wise
proven grotto
5700XT is basically the best available card rn unless you break into double its price bracket.
dense wasp
5700 just runs so damn hot though
fleet canopy
Ye ye
fleet canopy
Well
late sorrel
just live somewhere where it snows 
bronze cloak
depending on the cooler of course
late sorrel
or get one with a good cooler
fleet canopy
Some manufacturers probably got a good cooler
I assume same is 5700 with Sapphire Nitro
late sorrel
nitro+ gang
dense wasp
I have one next to me here, need to switch my vega 64 out 😛
bronze cloak
I get my recommendations from Gamer's Nexus
fleet canopy
But I heard Red Devil is supposedly the best?
dense wasp
It is a nitro +
late sorrel
real question, can you tell that I'm effecively a shill for sapphire
Nitro+ is the best last I checked
bronze cloak
Red Devil doesn't have the best cooler, but it is almost there and it has one of the best overclocking PCBs
dense wasp
My Vega 64 also runs really hot though 🤷🏻♂️
late sorrel
Nitro+ gets 148 on F1 2018, vs 204 with the Power colour
Shadow of the Tomb Raider:
Nitro+ = 121
Red Devil = 134
Not sure about temps
fleet canopy
Which GPU
late sorrel
5700XT
fleet canopy
Ah
late sorrel
checking out temps + ocing right now
bronze cloak
OCing on normal cooling of course is mostly dependent on silicon lottery instead of the PCB with Navi
bronze cloak
The reference card may have a cooler I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy, but if you do water cooling the PCB is actually really nice
fleet canopy
F
late sorrel
so he's bought a 2070S
late sorrel
He didn't
late sorrel
It was Doot
weak pilot
in ur opinion, better is building cheaper laptop with laptop cpu, or pay more for overheating and loud so much laptop with desktop cpu?
buying*
fleet canopy
You can't build a laptop
late sorrel
I don't think you can get a laptop with a desktop cpu in it either
if we're talking laptop vs desktop however
bronze cloak
I know the Area 51M has a desktop CPU
weak pilot
well there are laptops with desktop cpu
proven grotto
You can but it's sketchy. And you can
weak pilot
but theyre very big and loud
fleet canopy
It's just a no-no mainly
proven grotto
They run super super hot tho and they're super power hungry
bronze cloak
So they kind of defeat the purpose of a laptop
weak pilot
well i will have some cash from school and idk what to buy
i want to buy laptop cuz college or university next year
proven grotto
What's your budget look like for it
north bronze
Be me
Stupid weird bug in UE4
Download 20GB of debug symbols
keep debugging
error keeps changing in the call stack, starting to get depressed
half the time it points to some Windows API wrapper, the other to random garbage. Wtf UE4
guy on ue4 discord: did you mark the component ptr as UPROPERTY()
me: no, do I need to
guy: the GC will dispose of it if you don't
tfw forgot about that and the GC has been trashing my pointers for 5 hours.
late sorrel
oof
dense wasp
vocal wagon
can my GeForce 4 can be used?
fiery nacelle
NOPE
glass tinsel
reef fog
hi i ahve a friend that crash everytime when he lunch a game, he already set down all graphics, any idea?
sick needle
Hello I m trying to play GTFO Alpha. is It normal that my fps decrease from 120 to 105 sometimes? My build is: i5 9600k 4.6ghz ddr4 2x16 3000mhz z390-a prime rtx 2070 msi armor 8gb ssd 240gb. Can someone help me?
north bronze
It's an alpha, optimization isn't perfect and tbh 120 to 105 isn't bad at all 👀
warped trellis
yeah that's actually pretty stable ark is much worse off with Vsync I still drop to 30fps loading in buildings while flying.
tough yew
what about u
main mist
SOmetimes
abstract kite
so 45 fps when not in battle is normal?
bronze cloak
What specs and what resolution
lapis yacht
Anyone actually have SLI working? Default NVIDIA profile:
mint wing
thank you
delicate bloom
having a hard time getting more than 50 fps, what should I be changing in the setting to maximize perfermance?
lapis yacht
Make sure you are restarting the client when changing settings. They don't properly take in-session based on the tests I've done.
fresh fiber
Optimization is very good for me. I played on Fullhd resolution and maxed out settings and was somewhere around 65fps(vsync off)
GPU: GTX 970 4gb OC
CPU: Intel core i5 6400 2.70/3.30ghz
RAM: 2x8gb HyperX Fury 2133mhz
Played for about an hour, so far no bugs discovered.
late sorrel
I got about the same (thouhg I think a little higher) with my RX570 and 2600
tranquil barn
did anyone get stuttering after like an hour and a half?
civic lintel
Yeah, I got some stuttering that seemed to increase in frequency the longer I played
torn copper
Yeah I had very smooth framerates for the most part but that is on a gaming laptop.
heavy fjord
yep
torn copper
Intel 7500 HD, GTX 1065, 16 gigs ram
heavy fjord
they should add sliencer
cobalt cloud
what does CPU Culling workload mean in the settings?
prime grail
CPU culling is usually calculating what doesn't need to be rendered in a scene to improve performance
Kinda offloading some workload from the GPU to the CPU
distant viper
i have a ryzen5 3600 4,2Ghz; 16 GB RAM and a rx5700 xt annd dip from 140 to 60 fps in split seconds, really bad stutters
tough yew
what is max render queue frames please ??
clear horizon
how do you like my laptop pc build 🥔
cyan field
any one else having huge fps drops whit the rx 580?!?
late sorrel
dams that’s pretty cool
@cyan field I think everyone is generally getting frame drops at points, though I can’t complain about my RX570, not noticed any frame drops
cyan field
@late sorrel can i ask you to share a screen whit ur video settings pls?
late sorrel
I'll send a screenshot in a second
cyan field
thx bro
wide notch
For me, I have a 1050Ti and the game doesn't care what quality I set the game to, because it still stays at 40-45 FPS all the time (With V-Sync Off). It may sound stupid, but it's my case.
fleet canopy
That’s just the alpha being oof
wide notch
Yeah.
If I put it all down, the GPU is at 80% and my CPU at 15-20% but the game is limited by itself even if I have disabled V-Sync.
;-;
fleet canopy
That’s pretty strange. I do know RAM also plays a role for FPS too. You could be running DDR4 at below 2800 MHz, and you definitely should have 8 or more GB of RAM
wide notch
I have 16 GB DDR4 at 3000 MHz.
fleet canopy
Then it’s just the game. It’ll eventually be fixed
wide notch
🤷
dense wasp
Have you tried setting the CPU culling workload to different levels and see if you notice any difference?
especially if your GPU is at 80%, you could probably try go up in the CPU culling workload
tawny tundra
I have a 5700 and it runs surprisingly well
solar saddle
can confirm that the 5700 is fine on gtfo, only experienced micro stutters thus far
gray moat
i5 9600k, 16gb Hyperx Predator, Radeon RX580 8gb Nirto+, running everything on high at 75 - 88fps
fleet canopy
It might as well just be your CPU which you haven’t exactly told us what it is.
wide notch
Ryzen 5 2600 running at 3.7 GHz.
90% of the time the cores and threads are kept at 3700-3725 MHz. Sometimes it goes up to 3800 MHz, but that's not for me to decide, it's in automatic by the motherboard.
It's never dropped below 3700 MHz, for now.
wide notch
Same.
late sorrel
I use autoboosting, but I've not had any issues with GTFO yet
wide notch
Something I also wanted to add just in case: My GPU reaches a maximum of 65° when it's at 100% and my CPU at 55°. So I don't think it's a high temperature limitation.
glad shore
Anyone having issues with the lighting bugging out and adding very dark shadows to your FOV?
hollow knot
Would it be in the realm of possibility for an Athlon 200GE to run GTFO at 720p low settings? I'm building a low-power HTPC in a few months and was just curious. @sick reef
glad lantern
GTX 1070, 64GB RAM
Running at 58fps
Doesn't matter what graphic setting I use
Any suggestions? It's ruining my aim
hollow knot
Are you using the latest graphics drivers? @glad lantern
sick reef
Do you run single or dual screen setup?
hollow knot
What's your CPU? @glad lantern
glad lantern
Dual
sick reef
Have you tried running it in single?
glad lantern
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6820HK CPU @ 2.70GHz, 2701 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 8 Logical Processor(s)
hollow knot
That's realty odd then, my Ryzen 3 2200G and GTX 1660 runs it smoothly.
sick reef
Try running it in a single screen setup, and see if the problem persists
glad lantern
I'm getting 100fps at the lobby menu
240 when tabbed out
I can't exactly disable my other monitor
it's a laptop
hollow knot
Is Vsync enabled?
sick reef
Aren't you able to run pure external monitor?
glad lantern
I've been playing the new Call of Duty at 90fps
Apex at 120 steady
Minecraft shaders at 140
lol
gtfo at 50
sick reef
Yeah, but what I ask of you is that you so would try what would happen if you played it using a single monitor.
hollow knot
Where is GTFO installed on? It might be a hard drive bottleneck.
sick reef
Because the issue itself can arise specifically from it being a dual monitor setup.
glad lantern
Mmmm I can give it a shot, not sure if it'll screw up settings
I'll try
this is with 1 monitor
30-60fps
hollow knot
If it is a problem with a dual monitor setup, you might want to post it in #known-issues so that they can fix it in the final release.
hollow knot
Try purging the drivers and re-installing them.
glad lantern
Don't know if you saw, just pinging to make sure 🙂
sick reef
If you were to look in the same place, you'd get roughly the same FPS then?
sick reef
And you've tried every single graphical setting, restarted the game, and it does nothing?
glad lantern
Haven't restarted the game after changing settings, but I've done the lowest, and highest. No differences
same with fullscreen exclusive vs windowed
sick reef
If you change the settings you almost always should attempt a restart.
glad lantern
Would release have tool tips for each setting?
maybe examples on the empty space on the right?
I'll try to restart after this run
hollow knot
I would imagine. @glad lantern
sick reef
When something like that happens, it really feels like one of those "game thinks main monitor is actual monitor" when it locks to 59 fps, but since you never restarted, to get anything credible, you would have to restart first.
hollow knot
I can forward your suggestion to #gtfo-game-suggestions if you'd like @glad lantern
glad lantern
What should I choose for CPU Culling Workload and Max Render Queue Frames?
Yea, go ahead
sick reef
CPU culling. Less means more GPU heavy, more means more CPU heavy, from what was said earlier.
glad lantern
I'm thinking I should have it less
my cpu has a history of being annoying
and since I have a 1070, it should be able to handle it
What about Max Render Queue?
sick reef
I assume it's a general performance hog, but I don't know. I would keep it at its base value.
copper zealot
I don't really see any issues until the monster movement, 3900x 32gb ram 1080ti latest drivers
no setting changes dual screen
There were not any relative spiking
power settings on windows balanced or high throughput?
Also check advanced settings under windows and change to background services vs programs under system properties advanced
glad lantern
copper zealot
Also i know a lot of games don't like aero theme bases in windows
but that is just a possibility
glad lantern
I feel like changing it to background vs programs is like.. an oxymoron?
Why would that fix it?
copper zealot
The way windows prioritizes the software
it was what an old optimizer used to do on the fly
oddly enough it puts resource allocations to different places to make it more consistent vs spiking
oh and if you have nvidia beyond the standard control panel, their service / auto detect causes havoc as well
that thing is utter garbage
glad lantern
I have the nvidia stuff default since its a laptop
copper zealot
gotcha
glad lantern
It came with Nvidia Control Panel
copper zealot
Have you ran something in the background to check for throttling (since it is a laptop)
I had a lenovo i had to run a program to make it not sensor throttle
also change some bios settings
thermal throttle is probly best wording
glad lantern
I haven't tried anything for troubleshooting
My laptop comes with an overclocking program
I have it set to standard because their "EXTREME" default overclock setting is just... trash
But they have a manual one, and I feel like I can get some more power out of it
Just too afraid to mess with it
copper zealot
Yea i'm not big on laptop gaming. I stick with Desktops. Always run into weird throttling issues with laptops whether it be heat or just bad bios crap
It's ALWAYS something
drivers ect..
sick reef
Have you shut off the internal graphics driver?
glad lantern
Don't even know how
sick reef
The Intel HD Graphics 530.
copper zealot
RIght click background > Nvidia Control Panel > Global Settings > Processor set to Performance (nvidia)
under Manage 3d settings
or physx
Configure Surrounds PhysX is the other
Disregard global settings go to Configure Surround
PhysX
glad lantern
we're experiencing a bug on the stream rn I think
copper zealot
glad lantern
copper zealot
Change to Nvidia card
glad lantern
sick reef
copper zealot
He has changed a lot of settings, is there a way to display info settings while the game is running?
I'm banking on CPU throttling
glad lantern
I'm thinking cpu as well
hollow knot
You might be right @copper zealot , laptop chassis's aren't the best in terms of thermals.
If possible, I'd repaste the CPU with a premium thermal compound @glad lantern
sick reef
That's a throttlin'
Do you keep the a laptop on a surface with room to breathe, as well as a bit space below it?
I'd turn boost clock/turbo off.
And see what temps you get.
sick reef
Throttling happens between 90-110 depending on comp
glad lantern
I don't have boost on btw
sick reef
tardy marsh
dense garnet
my game has a stutter almost every 5 seconds, not sure if its graphic settings or somthing else
distant viper
jup same here
get 144 fps while falling, as soon as i land it drops hard to about 30fps then goes up to 55-100fps
stuttering and frame drops are kinda annoying
dense garnet
fps and everything else is fine, just kind of strange ill get a stutter
ok well as long as i know other people experiencing it lol
fleet canopy
Pretty much a majority of players are experiencing this
distant viper
i mean, it's an alpha so it's ok i guess?!
i hope they can optimize the game in the future
@dense garnet what's your average fps?
left ferry
On my 2080 high settings gets me 80 fps in gun fights
royal oyster
@left ferry my friend and i experienced that as well earlier. we're pretty sure it's because the game has a hard time lighting up dark corners, so it slows it down as it takes the time to light it up.
vague quail
i find turning cpu culling to low helps
but yea in alpha state performance problems are expected
vague quail
its pretty fun doing coop tho
vague quail
i got i7-6700HQ and gtx 1060, getting about 50-60 fps on 1080p with cpu culling on low
vague quail
the 10 series doesnt have the mobile version anymore
hence smaller gap between desktop and laptop gpu wise
@cerulean merlin
cerulean merlin
oh huh
vague quail
yea
that was the big leap for 10 series
and then there are the 20s which were interesting
but anyways i am getting myself a decent desktop soon
and the game will be more polished by then so i am pretty sure the performance is gonna be ok
summer moat
I have a laptop 1050Ti, and UserBenchMark reads it as a regular one.
Think the only difference is where they are clocked?
sterile hornet
hollow umbra
Getting about 60 FPS max with some dips here and there on a rig with an Intel Core i5 7600K clocked to 4 GHz and GTX 1060 3GB with all settings highest at 1920x1080
dry spire
100-130 fps on 1080p with a GTX 1080, i7-8700k (5Ghz) and 16gb dual channel ram at 3200 Mhz with everything set to high, cpu culling medium. haven't noticed a big difference changing settings to low or mid
plucky tangle
I was getting frame stutters every 30 seconds that would knock me down to 60fps but I was constantly at 144 fps otherwise at 1080p on a 6700k clocked @ 4.8ghz, 16 gigs 2400 ram, and a 1080ti ftw3
abstract kite
They do have to have to optimize it but I was playing at 1440 on medium to low setting with pretty much same specs except no ti on the 1080 and I didn’t get stutters
polar lance
Build:
AMD Ryzen 5 3600
16GB DDR4-2666
1660Ti 6GB
The game drops to 20-30fps when the lobby drops down.
Then stays at 80-100 fps during the entire game. But will dip down to 60 at times. Everything at high and 1080p
frigid warren
I don't think the 'No Connection' known issue is fixed. I got it after it was stated as 'fixed'
north bronze
The game drops to 20-30fps when the lobby drops down.
The drop down is a hidden level loading screen imo, so that's normal
For the rest, sounds like some good perf, keep in mind the game is still alpha so optimization ain't perfect yet @polar lance
frigid warren
and I was getting this consistently timed frametime spike, every second i think. which resulted in a stutter/skip every second
void verge
Same, I get stutters too, every like 4-5 seconds, stutters consistently lasts for about 1.5 sec
frigid warren
Are the developers keeping an eye on this channel, or is there a different way to report issues ?
solid adder
still coral
Not sure if that was just me, but with 1050ti, i7 7700 16gb of ram I had between 30 and 40 FPS and best :/
At*
ripe path
Well the game is in alpha so I can only imagine that its because the game hasn't been optimized just this second. Once they have the gameplay down they will probably optimize the game to run smoother for everyone.
dense wasp
@still coral Edge, try making the cpu culling workload higher in settings.
Feels like you gpu might bottleneck you there
On Thursday that is
bronze cloak
Seems like there might be a favoring for AMD CPUs from what people have been reporting
late sorrel
I guess they like multi core speeds
void wasp
R9-3900X, 32GB DDR4 3200Mhz, EVGA 1070 8GB, OS on M2, Game on SSD. Vsync On in driver (1440p @ 75hz). All ran smooth while streaming, didn't have time to test/bench anything(perf wise), will do some in next test period.
bronze cloak
A dedicated benchmark in the finished game would probably be pretty cool
dire salmon
https://www.metabox.com.au/store/Alpha-Range thinking of getting this laptop to play games like GTFO while I’m out at work
@wraith mantle what u think
wraith mantle
I don't know a lot about actual pricing but it looks like an alright deal, you get some good stuff for your money and it can definitely play high end games on good settings
Just make sure you account for battery life
dire salmon
I’m only ever using it in my room so it will always be charging
And. I will be bringing my mouse from home maybe a screen
wraith mantle
Yeah, go for it
hazy reef
vernal siren
urban gulch
English only please @vernal siren
minor fossil
Or bring it into dm?
abstract kite
gtx 970, i5 4460 3.2 ghz. 8 gb ram
game runs not smooth!
@urban gulch puppy do you know more about it?
cold violet
Trying the game for the first time tomorrow, should be fine with 9900k (5ghz OC) + rtx 2080?
bronze cloak
lmao no of course not a 2080 ti is an absolute requirement
fiery nacelle
Titan RTX + 10900X
oblique plinth
@vernal siren да у меня вообще пишет что какие-то работы идут, типа завтра только доступ будет
urban gulch
@oblique plinth English please.
@abstract kite It should run smooth, see #633424987889598484.
polar gust
Core i7-2600, GeForce GTX 1060, 16gb ram should run fine?
north bronze
im running it with rare minor lag with an i5 6400 and 8GB of RAM
- 1060 3GB, so it's pretty darn well optimized
polar gust
ty
fair gull
i7 4790k and rtx 2080 super ,maybe ill squish 60 fps in 2 k
patent kite
on i5 2500k + GTX 1060 6gb i have stable 60 fps
abstract kite
:/
unreal spruce
i5 7500/8Gb/1Tb/GTX1060/600W
fleet canopy
@fiery nacelle should be 3950X, faster than the 10980XE funnily enough
Well maybe not faster, but only proof is website did stupid benchmark making AyyMD look better
half ember
3570K + GTX1060 6GB + 8GB 1600mhz + SSD = stable 60fps
fleet canopy
1600Mhz? On DDR3?
half ember
jep
fleet canopy
Ah oki
edgy lake
Does anyone here happen to know if the alpha supports controller input for people who cant use a keyboard?
brave flower
Someone was saying it might not be the most controller friendly version, can't say for sure though.
late sorrel
It does not support controller input
fleet canopy
On game release or early access, there will be controller support
abstract kite
so any optimisation coming to the game? Because when i set all settings to low, fps still the same (PCspec: i7-8700k 5.0 RTX2080)
bronze cloak
What is the FPS that it stays at? From what I’ve seen it’s well optimized for an alpha.
abstract kite
around 60-90
bronze cloak
Oh what resolution too?
fleet canopy
Hm
bronze cloak
Okay not sure, seems to me it might be an Intel thing but time will tell
fleet canopy
AMD users seemed to have it much easier
abstract kite
i guess game just not optimize now, so wait for updates
fleet canopy
AyyMD
abstract kite
in overall game is stable, but sometime i have little frezzing for couple of seconds, but i got this 2 times in all time while im playing
bronze cloak
And it wouldn’t just be multithreaded performance favoring, since the 8700k is same threads and higher clock than a 3600 it must be a difference in their architecture. The stuttering is an issue many have reported so I expect that will be addressed.
fleet canopy
3600 better price to perf than 8700K though
late sorrel
It's because Ludvig's a AyyMD gamer like we are mayo
wintry hedge
im running a Ryzen 5 1600 (NonX) and a GTX 1060 6gb mini with 16 gigs of ddr4. I played the game on max settings and i was fine.
solid 60
fleet canopy
With a little performance cut back and a whole lotta price drop, you are in for a riiiiide
late sorrel
I have a 2600 and a RX570
fleet canopy
I have 7700K and 1060 3GB, poor me
late sorrel
RX570 > 1060 3gb
boreal verge
fleet canopy
Uhh
People are managing to play it alright with a 1060 and 3600, 4790K, etc
Some do pretty well with a 2600 and 570
Speaking of, how are the THICC and/or THICC II compared to any other 5700XT?
magic anvil
Running with an i7-7700K,16GB and an RX 5700XT seems pretty solid throughout mission except during the time when you're being brought down to hell
Is it worth me upgrading to a 3700X? Coming from an 7700K or should I just wait for this to get close to dying and then upgrade?
fleet canopy
Uhh
I mean, it’s worth it
I think it’s somewhat faster than a 7700K, but the rest of the specs seems god damn promising
magic anvil
well i will have to debate with myself whether buy one or not then XD
fleet canopy
You can get it if you want. Only like 50$ more than 3600?
magic anvil
my only issue is with my setup is that my mobo is limited to 16GB 😦
fleet canopy
Oofies
magic anvil
can't go any higher sadly
fleet canopy
At least you’ll be buying a new motherboard for the 3700X
magic anvil
true
magic anvil
and i can finally utilise the frequency of these ram sticks
fleet canopy
I have a 7700K, rather I go for a 3600
magic anvil
currently stuck at 2400MHz because of mobo 😦
west rose
mood
magic anvil
sucks to be me
magic anvil
i got given these sticks and they are supposed to be 3600Mhz 😦
fleet canopy
I mean, at some point, a PC part skyrockets fucking high in price
magic anvil
oh well cant really complain i got given most of the parts for free
fleet canopy
Neat
magic anvil
free i mean i salvaged them from my previous job XD
fleet canopy
Ah lmao
magic anvil
although i do really want to get that 3700X so i can complete my red themed pc
i wonder if that wraith cooler that it comes with is any good....
fleet canopy
I mean, probably alright, but possibly not the best if you’re looking to OC it maybe
magic anvil
oh no ive already learnt my lesson with air cooled OC
never again
the only reason i was thinking of replacing this 7700k is that we get an xmas bonus so i was thinking of getting one after xmas during the sales
fleet canopy
Some are dependent on water cooling I think? Most of the time, dark rock pro 4 or a noctua d15 if you prefer does the job great. Not saying you should get, but the price is pretty neat for the best CPU air cooler for me imo
fleet canopy
That’s also neato
fiery nacelle
@magic anvil oh that i7 7700k is still a vary capable CPU - no reason to upgrade anytime soon
If you've already got one that is
fleet canopy
No OC on mine either
fiery nacelle
still on my i7 2600 (non-K) ha ha
livid zodiac
Hello guys!! will GTFO confirm launching again 31st 7amPDT?
livid zodiac
opps. sorry didn't know it was here
supple smelt
I just got a dell with 7700k and sucky air cooled
Anyone mount water cooler on outside of case? This thing has no room in case
fleet canopy
I mean, it is possible
supple smelt
The thing stutters every cpu spike waiting for fans to catch up. Turrible
abstract kite
@supple smelt Look up Jayztwocents it might take I mute to find it but he did a case with an external rad and I looked amazing. Might help you a bit. Good luck 🤘🏻
sick reef
I mounted mine slightly off-center
fiery hollow
Is there 144hz support?
pale arrow
Contact the monitor manufacturer directly
mint elm
I need the key 887 but i got the key898
is this okay?
is this the same key? cause i can't find another blue key
or am i in bug?
dense wasp
bug probably!
mint elm
lol
dense wasp
and it works in the door ? 🙂
dense wasp
ok, thanks!
cold snow
Если есть Русские или Украинцы, залетайте в комнату 79 ждем +2 места
little steeple
Are you guys optimizing for Pascal? My Turing card seems to disagree with this game pretty strongly. My i7-8700K+RTX 2080 struggles to maintain 45 fps no matter what the quality settings are set to, yet my Ryzen 2700X+Radeon VII pulls 75-90 completely maxed out. Are you not optimizing for Turing right now?
lofty hill
@little steeple the same. but not so cool pc. ryzen 5 1700 + 1050ti. gpu in 80%, cpu in 25%. still 40 fps. on minimals the same 40 fps with drops
little steeple
@lofty hill The 1050ti is your bottleneck there. Even though it isn't a crazy fast card, there should be a noticeable performance change switching quality settings around, either gains or losses. I was wondering what they were optimizing for, if anything at this point, because 99% of the time my RTX card has a noticeably higher performance delta than the Radeon VII.
lofty hill
@little steeple 1050ti isn't for games. i know it. but it's always 40 fps and 80% usage
little steeple
It's better than integrated GPU's. I don't like to chastise or flame people that don't spend the kind of money on computers I do. It gets the job done, and for some people, that's all they need.
fair gull
its actually not that bad , high settingts ,2560x1440p ,RTX 2080 super and i 7 4790k and i got stable 144 fps ,no v sync sience i have g sync monitor
little steeple
G-sync dosn't like this game for me, so it won't hook into it properly.
fair gull
yes
little steeple
What 2080S do you have?
little steeple
How many monitors are you running when you run the game?
fair gull
2
little steeple
I'm running 3. That could be causing it for me.
The Radeon VII rig is running 2 monitors, maybe that's the factor I'm skipping in troubleshooting here.
fair gull
try to disconnect one
little steeple
Didn't seem to do anything for performance.
FPS counter in the top left. Game is set to all low settings, running on one monitor.
fair gull
@little steeple what specs u have dude?
halcyon owl
want to ask, what does cpu culling workload do ?
fair gull
i left it on medium just for peace of mind
hot robin
How do I sign up for the alpha?
minor briar
It was running great on my old q9650, but now I have Ryzen 5 2600 + gtx1060 and got high fps but micro-stutters (like every 3 seconds)
finite shore
i have a ryzen 2600 too, it stutters a lot as well
frosty wagon
fair gull
if u have SSD's try ti install alpha on ssd drive
aswell its becous not stable fps
something must cause it
tender cipher
bronze cloak
#NoVideo
bronze cloak
Nope lmao
fleet canopy
Lmao okay
still coral
This is weird, no matter what graphic settings i use i still get around 30-40 fps 😦
bot low and high for me lol
fleet canopy
Because alpha isn’t optimized enough for many to go 60 or more
still coral
That much i know, im only wondering because my friend with lower specs had better fps than me 😄 still love the game tho
fleet canopy
Well, it seems lower end PCs are having it nice
Maybe there’s something to do with drivers?
late sorrel
I think it’s to do with amd > Intel in the alpha
ludbig is a friend of the AyyMD cult it seems
radiant garnet
@still coral What's your 'render ahead' setting at?
still coral
radiant garnet
Hmm... CPU and GPU?
bronze cloak
oof a 1050 ti isn’t gonna handle those settings that well
still coral
But it's all the same for low 😦
Guess i'll stick with 30 fps then, it ain't that bad honestly
rustic shore
Had a quick scroll up. Capped at 60 regardless of settings. Is there a setting in a config file or something to change for this?
agile valve
clear horizon
you can just drop the res to 720p and see if that locks you to 60fps
eternal geyser
FPS Stutter constantly
Scouts tentacles go through walls?
Weapon damage is shit
enemies hit you through objects
torn basin
?
i havent had any frame drops whatsoever
im playing steady 60 with a 2070 super and bottlenecking it with me ryzen 5 1600
rigid yoke
Im getting a steady 70s on high with a 980 4gb and I7-4820k havent had stutters or anything
grand ivy
torn basin
1920x1080
jolly heath
I get a black screen on launch with a red + sign in the middle and my FPS at the bottom.
I've tried verifying and uninstalling
http://prntscr.com/pqxxjp
Anyone faced this issue?
thorn frost
looks like the x you get when you middle mouse (ping) when not hovering a door/box etc
plucky lily
i9 - 9900K
64GB DDR4
GTX 1080
Running solid 60-ish at 1080 with no stutter.
radiant garnet
@still coral Try setting everything to low/disable, keeping render queue at 2, and CPU culling at medium, and then restart the game. Does that still stutter? Also, you're in a laptop, so it could be thermal throttling as well.
warm cypress
weak raft
midnight tendon
After the patch rx 480 4gb and an i5 7400 with 16g RAM runs smooth at 1080 with all settings high (except for exclusive fullscreen)
cunning sorrel
guys i need help everytime i go into the game it says offline for soem reason anyone any ideas
midnight tendon
Are you online in steam?
cunning sorrel
yesss i can access everything in steam and it says im online
vocal nebula
Is there any manual explaining the settings\options? What does "CPU culling" control?
midnight tendon
@cunning sorrel I would try to restart steam
and Shad it essentially lightens the load on your cpu for only rendering stuff that is on your screen
cunning sorrel
i cam right @midnight tendon tnx for the help i did restart my steam and it seems that it sorted it self out tnx mate
vocal nebula
Joke's on Unity, I already use my CPU to fry pancakes.
midnight tendon
no problem @cunning sorrel steam has a glitch sometimes when it runs for a long time
radiant garnet
@weak raft Update GPU drivers, report back if that changed anything
tepid ridge
i think the fps is more or less resolution based i've tried lowest settings and max settings on my 1060 6gb and i7 7700k with low settings at 2560x1440 resulting at around 40-50 fps with Maxed settings running at around 30-40. i dropped the resolution down to 1920x1080 and saw a improvement of around 20fps on the lowest settings being 60-80 fps and on the higest around 50-60. i havn't tested on resolutions below 1920x1080.
Keeping in mind that this is very early Alpha, fps issues should be the least of our worries we should be testing the game and enjoying it the best we can :)
kind siren
Hey peeps, I have a 1060 6GB with i7-7700HQ. I have everything on High besides the Fog Diffusion stuff, and get ~60-70 FPS. Which is totally fine, I was just wondering if I could further optimize it with the CPU culling. Thing is, no matter what setting the CPU culling is at, my CPU maxes around 45-50% and CPU consistently stays at 99-100%. FPS is more or less the same. Is there something I'm misunderstanding here?
From what I understand, the higher the CPU culling workload, the more "work" gets shifted to the CPU. But there doesn't seem to be any effect on CPU/GPU %, no matter if the setting is LOW or EXTREME
CPU maxes @ 45-50%, GPU @ 99-100%*
radiant garnet
I have experienced the same with my setup as Hollapeno.
intel 3930k
amd fury x
copper zealot
or everyone with the Ram problem and windows. Right click start button or click if windows 7 goto system / right click computer then properties. System info or win 7 advanced system properties (win10 is next step) performance tab middle tab set focus to background processes, second part is if you have any gaming software turn off gaming mode, third part is alt tab out of game (win 7 ) set priority of gtfo to low or sub normal.
Also for laptop players go to Nvidia Control Panel PhysX and make sure your nvida / amd card is set to the main processor as the system will not intelligently decipher the built in card vs the additional FX
As well as Right click GTFO exe go to properties compatibility tab and run compatibility previous version and or turn off full screen optimizations
This will take away a good portion of issues for laptop / desktop issues
Tested on 4 systems ranging from 3900x to i7-3770 and mobile processors with nvidia card and built in graphics laptops
worthy pine
im on gtx 1080 ryzen 5 1600x only getting like 90 ish fps
worthy pine
hmmm
worthy pine
oh
fleet canopy
Wasn't the smoothest
I'll play again with an FPS counter next time
40-45 FPS on drop
While on current drop
Average 30
worthy pine
ooh
worthy pine
oh
fleet canopy
Averages are 40-45 FPS during gameplay
So yeah
Even when settings are changed from high to low, no change in FPS
dense wasp
Pupper you should see some benifits in setting your CPU culling to Large at least.
but yeah, we do have optimization to do for sure 🙂
rancid depot
It actually runs quite well for me, the only frame drop I've noticed was, strangely enough, during the cage drop.
where it went from a stable 60 to 30
warm moss
How do you get access to the open beta? I’ve become an ambassador but I don’t know what to do from here
fleet canopy
Send a DM to the @rugged notch this command: !key Email@Domain.asdf alpha
hasty spruce
low fps when shooting on i5 6500 1070 
i mean, lower than usual
jovial vector
Interesting. I'm not trying to flex, but shouldn't dual 970s be worse than a 1060. I get no frame stutter at 1080p with all settings at their highest?
fleet canopy
I believe it's mostly happening to nVidia cards, maybe Intel
Because from what I've seen, AMD users got it good
jovial vector
Im on an i5-6600K?
fleet canopy
Are you?
jovial vector
I am
fleet canopy
Either way, I've mostly seen AMD parts users get it 60 FPS easily, even with like
A 580?
jovial vector
I'm not really keen on the AMD parts, but hey, more power to them.
fleet canopy
kek
magic anvil
getting really good stable fps with intel/amd combo i7-7700k and RX 5700 XT
fleet canopy
Then it must be GPU
thorn frost
has anyone else experienced crashing? My game wont even open.
thorn frost
i7 7700k and a GTX 1660
fleet canopy
Huh
fleet canopy
That's not normal
Let me do a test
What part of the game can't you do anything?
No crashes yet
gentle ocean
literally starting it, its just frozen on that main screen showing the information
gentle ocean
yeah I'm not sure I'm verifying my files real quick
fleet canopy
Mmk
fleet canopy
I don't see GTFO on the bottom bar thing
gentle ocean
Cant move the mouse or anything
faint oxide
can i have a key?
gentle ocean
Because its fullscreen via shadow
fleet canopy
Yeah friend me @faint oxide and I
I'll send rq
It's Buukman, or can use 239793265
Overall, game is running fine
Nothing's gone wrong
fleet canopy
Neat
hot pier
@fleet canopy can you run a test with a GPU for me?
hot pier
i75650 Quadro Fx1800
fleet canopy
Ono
That GPU isn't getting you anywhere probably
But I used to have a terrible PC that you could buy from any store, and ran Payday 2 at 15 FPS
So I guueeeeess you could run it
idk
hot pier
I tried to make it run but pink screen each time
fleet canopy
But PD2 was more optimized
So idk how it'll be for you
.>
Well there's the option to buy a new PC 
hot pier
well i don't think my friend will buy one so
but I'm happy, my current build can run the game real smooth no freeze or lag i7 6700 with GTX690
hot pier
no but i'm trying to help him out
fleet canopy
Well, that GPU is about 5 years old, and from checking it online, it's pretty weak
Anyways
Unrelated to previous discussion, I asked for help on PCPartPicker threads
This is what I got
And this
hot pier
not bad at all for 1500$
fleet canopy
This is what my current one is atm
Well current list, not PC
I have 7700K and 1060 3GB
late sorrel
Still, the top one is the best out of the two
cold jasper
I'm curious, anyone here have a gen1 Threadripper playing this?