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fleet canopy Oct 18, 2019, 1:49 AM

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Basically

late sorrel Oct 18, 2019, 1:49 AM

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yeah

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literally they both get clapped af

fleet canopy Oct 18, 2019, 1:50 AM

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I didn’t want to go for raytracing because I didn’t see the point in paying a stupid price, and I don’t want to pay too much for my next build

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 2:29 PM

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all I can chime in on is I have an ASUS ROG STRIX OC RTX 2060 and it handles things amazingly.
Mine runs, according to userbenchmark, as well as a 1080 8GB.

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mind you, I'm running a 1080p 144Hz monitor, no 1440p or 4k

bronze cloak Oct 18, 2019, 3:24 PM

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I don’t like userbenchmark, I much prefer real benchmarks like firestrike or unigine superposition

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 3:28 PM

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Some help for generic frustrating intermittent GPU issues:

Switching from Nvidia to AMD card or vice versa? Use Display Driver Uninstaller
Install latest display driver from AMD / Nvidia
Windows 10 installation too old? fresh format and install (last resort)
Always use BOTH PCI-e power cables from PSU to your GPU (if it requires two), not a single cable branched to two connectors
Using an X570 motherboard? Try setting it to PCI-e 3.0
Switch off / disable Enhanced Sync in Radeon Settings
Don't use Afterburner or Trixx
Don't even enable Wattman
Run CPU on stock and RAM on XMP only

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 3:35 PM

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I use 3DMark for most benchmarking, but Userbenchmark compares how your system runs directly against other systems per component, 3DMark and Firestrike etc only give you an arbitrary number that can mean anything because it's for the system overall, and not per component

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my system gets 8560 in 3DMark, how does that tell me how good my GPU is?

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 3:36 PM

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there's the CPU score and graphics score in the details too

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or could take the physics score also for CPU

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 3:36 PM

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yes, but again they don't really compare how much better my gpu or cpu is doing

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userbenchmark tells me my cpu runs better than 71% of all cpus of my model

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 3:37 PM

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oh for cpus within the same model, yes userbenchmark is useful

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between say gpus of different architecture - much less so

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 3:37 PM

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even comparing alternate options, like my rtx 2060 runs as well as a gtx 1080 8GB

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within 2% difference

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 3:38 PM

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gives a rough range, hard to say when compared to game benchmarks

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useful as an indication yes

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 3:38 PM

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not a rough range though, it is based directly off of other userbenchmark tests on other systems

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 3:38 PM

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these are all synthetics

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 3:39 PM

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synthetics? You mean software that gauges how a component is doing?

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basically ALL testing is synthetics then

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 3:40 PM

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they stress test a very specific function of the hardware and summarize a one number fits all size based on some kind of agglomeration function

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why not just test the application directly?

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blender

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actual games

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the sort

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 3:41 PM

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no different than benchmarks

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userbench vs 3dmark

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 3:41 PM

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even 3dmark is a synthetic benchmark

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 3:41 PM

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I know, that's my point

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all testing it synthetic

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even the fps counter during your gameplay is synthetic

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zero pc testing is analog that I am aware of other than power draw maybe

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 3:41 PM

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fps counter during gameplay is synthetic?

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yeah

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 3:42 PM

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it isn't physical

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a software is reading the frames

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and then telling you

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it's all digital

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I'm not sure what you mean

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 3:42 PM

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oh we meant "synthetic" as in... not virtual vs physical

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synthetic as in it's not the actual application itself

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for fps counter - probably a frametime analysis will be better

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 3:43 PM

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yes but, if I get, say 9000 score on The Divison 2 in-game benchmark, how does that tell me how comparable my components are to another entirely different system that got roughly the same score overall?

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 3:44 PM

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it will perform comparably in Division 2?

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 3:44 PM

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I'm specifically referencing userbenchmark to compare singular components directly to other components that other users have tested

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I can see someone's score of 9000, but not their components or overclocks etc

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 3:44 PM

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that's why established reviewers use a spectrum of real world workload

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 3:44 PM

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which is what userbenchmark does

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 3:45 PM

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poorly

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hahaha

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 3:45 PM

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I'm really not understanding the issue there

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they test the physical systems of whoever uses the benchmark, then saves that data to their servers to compare new tests against

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 3:45 PM

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didn't you hear about that fiasco of them playing around with their single core vs multi core scoring?

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it's arbitrary

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 3:45 PM

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no, what do you mean?

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 3:45 PM

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ooooh that issue

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hot one man

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some suspect it's them shilling for Intel

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 3:46 PM

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are you referring to the change in scaling for the new Ryzen 3000 series?

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 3:46 PM

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by userbenchmark right?

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drew quite a lot of criticisms from tech youtubers, tech channels

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ouchie

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 3:47 PM

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but that's not relevant to what I am talking about

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I am not talking about their arbitrary number score

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 3:48 PM

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it's the detailed bench scores you're referring to right?

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yeah that is somewhat useful

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for cpus

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 3:48 PM

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I'm talking about how your singular gpu (or other component) works compared to the same gpu that other folks have tested on the same system, and gives you a gauge of how similarly your components match up to other ones

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for any conmponent

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storage, ram, cpu, gpu

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 3:49 PM

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oh if it's comparing the same components, yes

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between different architectures, less so

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 3:49 PM

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it tells me my ASUS ROG STRIX OC RTX 2060 performs as well as a GTX 1080 8GB

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 3:49 PM

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they are quite similar so yeah

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 3:49 PM

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literally the original comment I made, for context

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 3:50 PM

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Userbenchmark also claims the RX 5700XT is 1% better than the 2070 Super

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 3:50 PM

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as per USER scores

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sillicon lottery

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 3:51 PM

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based on THEIR algorithm, not real games

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 3:51 PM

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no cards are identical in performance

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not THEIR algorithm

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their USERS physical capabilities being recorded

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and compared

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 3:51 PM

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Techspot to Powerup indicates the RX 5700XT to be behind anywhere from 4% to 10% versus the 2070 Super

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 3:52 PM

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on their particular tested card, sure.

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 3:52 PM

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multiple professional reviewers?

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hmmmm

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These 4 tests are what determines the GPU score

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pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 3:53 PM

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but the same test is used for both cards

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are you implying their test favors certain cards?

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 3:53 PM

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are we sure 90% of games utilize these tests in the exact proportions or techniques?

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 3:53 PM

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because that sounds like card design differences vs software differences

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 3:53 PM

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in real life rendering

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 3:53 PM

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like turing vspascal

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 3:54 PM

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Techspot tests against a basket of 41 games, Techpowerup up to 21

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 3:54 PM

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are we sure 90% of games use the same system as Blender?

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 3:54 PM

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real games

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 3:54 PM

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or 3DMark?

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or Firestrike?

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 3:54 PM

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3dmark is synthetic

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 3:54 PM

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or ANY other benchmarking tool?

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they're all synthetic

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 3:55 PM

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do you even know what Blender is?

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 3:55 PM

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a video rendering program

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 3:55 PM

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not a game

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uses your CPU

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 3:55 PM

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well aware, but it is still made up of software

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still 1's and zeroes

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 3:55 PM

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which you use to WORK

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not to TEST

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 3:55 PM

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so does the benchmarks

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they use their system, to work

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their work being different

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 3:56 PM

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which userbenchmark game has been published and sold so far?

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 3:56 PM

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you seem to make the mistake of assuming a benchmark isn't applying a real workload to the components.

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why?

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 3:56 PM

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or what userbenchmark program has been used to compile anything so far

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these synthetics do not accurately reflect real world workloads

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they have become better over the years yes

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but still

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 3:57 PM

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what is a "real world workload"? they are all digital workloads applied to the components

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elaborate

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 3:57 PM

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Real games

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Compilers

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Adobe creative suite

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actual programs used to work

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 3:57 PM

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but why do you assume a game uses "real" workload vs a "not real" workload of a benchmark or stress test?

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 3:58 PM

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not to spit out a test number

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have you ever played a 3dmark game before?

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 3:58 PM

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but the test number is just a score relating how the components handled the workload applied to it...

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 3:58 PM

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or bought one?

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 3:58 PM

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they don't make games

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 3:58 PM

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exactly

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they are not games

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they are synthetic loads

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 3:58 PM

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they still apply a digital workload to the components the same way a game will

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what are you on about exactly?

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a game is ones and zeroes

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a benchmark is ones and zeroes

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 3:59 PM

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that same "digital workload" is not the same "workload" and not exactly representative of how a real game will perform

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 3:59 PM

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they are BOTH digital software applying a workload

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you seem to make a difference between those workloads for some reason

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but if you use the same workload for all testing

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it shjould match

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the. point

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so an AIDA64 stress test isn't a "real workload" compared to a game being rendered?

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wut?

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let's go over this

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:01 PM

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it is not the same workload - I can create a benchmark that heavily favours texturing for example, loading up to 8GB textures, causing massive advantage to RX 580 8GB versus the GTX 1060 6GB, even though in most games, at 1440p, the VRAM hardly gets loaded past 5GB anyway

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:01 PM

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how does a game apply a workload?

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:01 PM

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or the fact that graphics rendering is NOT ALL ABOUT TEXTURES

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:01 PM

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and not all games utilize the same workloads

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so, again, why do you differentiate?

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some games favor intel chips

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:02 PM

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yes and some AMD

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:02 PM

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so how is that any more accurate?

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:02 PM

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but testing a spectrum will give you the full picture

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rather than relying on ONE SYNTHETIC BENCHMARK

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:02 PM

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a benchmark IS a spectrum

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jfc

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I'm gonna walk away

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:02 PM

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for all we know is favouring one vendor over the other

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:02 PM

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exactly the same as some games do

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so your point is irrelevant

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lol okay

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:03 PM

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why do you think AMD and co quit BAPCO so long ago

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https://www.pcworld.com/article/3023373/amd-accuses-bapco-and-intel-of-cheating-with-sysmark-benchmarks.html

marsh mesa Oct 18, 2019, 4:03 PM

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Please remember keep it calm and without arguments.

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:04 PM

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good luck not having arguments in a pc help section

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oof

marsh mesa Oct 18, 2019, 4:05 PM

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I'm just saying there can be a discussion without invalidating anyone and keeping it calm 🙂

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:05 PM

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also never heard of BAPco

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the benchmarks I have stated are far more known and trusted

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:05 PM

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I've been around reading computer reviews since the 1990s

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:06 PM

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that's nice

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:06 PM

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we've been through that period

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where over reliance on a single benchmark vendor

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can be dangerous

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the fiascos

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arguments

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:06 PM

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not relying on any single benchmarker

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:06 PM

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exactly

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if you must rely on synthetics

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pick several

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:06 PM

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my literal point of using userbenchmark was to gauge how close singular system components compared to each other

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hence me directly stating about my RTX 2060 vs the GTX 1080

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context

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:07 PM

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you never know who you can trust - or which synthetic benchmark more closely resembles your case scenarios

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:07 PM

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you seem to be applying some other shit to my sytatement

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:07 PM

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I did say versus comparable architectures, it is useful

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but compare your RTX 2060 versus and RX 5700

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:07 PM

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might as well not trust anything, even the games since the games can favor certain chips, the same as you are complaining about benchmarkers favoring certain companies

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do you see my point?

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:08 PM

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I'd think the RTX 2060 would do better versus the RX 5700 than what userbenchmark will tell you

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At least games are what you'd actually play right?

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:08 PM

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how does that make a difference?

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:08 PM

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and they come from multiple vendors, multiple developers

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well unless all of them are siding with say AMD or Nvidia - oops

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:09 PM

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you saying gpus don't come from multiple vendors?

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:09 PM

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oh I meant the games come from multiple vendors / developers

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:09 PM

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or psus? or storage?

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or ram?

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I know, but that implies the components don't

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:10 PM

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I never implied that

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:10 PM

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so why mention it?

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:10 PM

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just don't be over reliant on synthetics

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:10 PM

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the game is a synthetic

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again, it applies a digital workload to the components, the same as a benchmark does

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:11 PM

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an NVME SSD will be advertised with a synthetic read speed that can be 4x higher than a SATA SSD

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in real life?

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:11 PM

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you seem to assume they are not both based on digital code

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:11 PM

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windows doesn't load 4x faster on an NVME

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I never denied synthetic or real life aren't digital

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they are all digital

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that's not the definition of synthetic benchmarks

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:11 PM

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but you keep trying to im-ply that a benchmark is less valid as a workload than a game

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:11 PM

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yes

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bingo

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:12 PM

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whern typically benchmarks have a higher component utilization than a game

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:12 PM

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less valid doesn't mean not valid

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:12 PM

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and I am trying to get you to prove your statement

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:12 PM

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true, synthetic benchmarks can invoke a higher component utilization

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:12 PM

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how can you tell me the digital workload of a game is not as valid as the digital workload of a benchmark?

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:12 PM

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if it is only one game

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here have a read on the debate

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https://www.techwarelabs.com/articles/editorials/real-vs-synthetic/

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:13 PM

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so only one game has a valid workload?

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doesn't matter how many games vs how many benchmarks

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the question is the validity of the workload applied by both

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:13 PM

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https://bit-tech.net/reviews/tech/software/the-problem-with-real-world-benchmarking/1/

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:13 PM

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you say a game is more valid

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why?

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:14 PM

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like the example I've given on the RTX 2070 Super vs the RX 5700 XT

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on a spectrum of games tested - the RTX 2070 Super will consistently beat the RX 5700 XT on an aggregate basis

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:14 PM

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you gave an example of a SINGLE card being tested on multiple games

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I'm saying Userbenchmark has a database of a ton of gpus to compare against

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sillicon lottery in physical form

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:15 PM

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on a single algorithm

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:15 PM

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tells you how shitty of a component you got.

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:15 PM

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silicon lottery or not - the numbers will average out

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just as reviewer samples are many and will average out

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even AMD marketing slides dare not claim that

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they can beat the 2070 super

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:15 PM

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revier samples are FAR less than that of the community

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maybe, at most, 1200 review cards to major reviewers in North America

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vs the thousands of consumers testing the same item

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:16 PM

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and communities benchmarking on userbenchmark are only testing that algorithm - flawed or not? who is to arbitrate?

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:16 PM

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I'm not saying rely on Userbenchmark

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:16 PM

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me too

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:16 PM

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don't put words in my mouth

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I am saying it is a nice tool to use to compare singular compnents to see how they fare against each other

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:16 PM

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oh no I never implied that, I'd agree with you

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in a rough range yes

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:17 PM

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never once said they were exact

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:17 PM

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just when people over rely on it, sometimes they can get disappointed

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:17 PM

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literally the same test being applied to all componernts

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:17 PM

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unfortunately most new PC users do that

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:17 PM

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giving you a readout of how all components work under that same test

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same as testing a single game, i.e. the same workload

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:18 PM

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our query is that whether the same test is the... well... representative of the real experience the user will get

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from a game

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or work

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:18 PM

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and the game can be just as different and favor certain brands as much as the benchmarks is what I am saying

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so neither is that accurate on it's own

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never tried to imply doing one over the other

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do ALL the tests

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:18 PM

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which is why most will test on as many games as they can - and the selection of games CAN bias the result to one vendor or the other

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:19 PM

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and it's why they also use multiple benchmarks

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but that doesn't invalidate the info given from one of the benchmarks

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:19 PM

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best to compare userbenchmark, passmark, AIDA64, CPU-Z and Prime 95

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:19 PM

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or make the workload on a benchmark less than the workload on a game

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:19 PM

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similar to say SSD

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Userbenchmark results should be compared against the Crystaldiskmark scores

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:19 PM

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so then compare them yourself

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nothing stopping you

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:20 PM

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yes, and that should not stop us offering this lovely debate and advice to all our friends on this channel too

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:20 PM

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of course

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:21 PM

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well, having said that I'm not enthusiastic about the obsolete hardware I have

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just wondering when to upgrade

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:21 PM

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having obsolete stuff isn't fun

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:21 PM

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SO TRUE

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:21 PM

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I bought my HTC Vive only 5 months ago and it's already obsolete

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no longer in production since the Cosmos released

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:22 PM

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that's an expensive piece of hardware here

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but a nice one

marsh mesa Oct 18, 2019, 4:22 PM

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The Cosmos already released?

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:22 PM

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real nice one

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:22 PM

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cost me $800 canadian rubles

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:22 PM

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hey it's not even for sale here

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:22 PM

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I think so, moonlight

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:22 PM

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so rare

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Isn't 800 CAD already much reduced versus it's introductory price?

marsh mesa Oct 18, 2019, 4:22 PM

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Also Spartan did you buy your HTC Vive from another seller or HTC?

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:22 PM

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yeah Moonlight

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I got it from Newegg

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only Best Buy online and Amazon had it other than them

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but Newegg had a sale, $659 instead of $699

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:23 PM

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CAD?

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:23 PM

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yeah

marsh mesa Oct 18, 2019, 4:23 PM

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mine was for around the same price, a bit less but mainly because of VAT

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:24 PM

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it's the original Vive, not the $1600 pro

marsh mesa Oct 18, 2019, 4:24 PM

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If not it would've been 100 less

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:24 PM

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I just wish I had read more about HTC before buying form them

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worst customer service I ever experienced

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:24 PM

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what about Valve Index?

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Is that good

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:24 PM

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I know very little about it, other than a bunch of folks like it haha

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:24 PM

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why did Valve split from HTC?

marsh mesa Oct 18, 2019, 4:24 PM

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The controllers seem imo like the only thing that stands out

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:25 PM

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I thought they were partners

marsh mesa Oct 18, 2019, 4:25 PM

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They still are I think

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Their products work together at least

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you can have Valve Index controllers and buy for example the HTC Vive pro headset

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:25 PM

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ah I see

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:25 PM

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they split because HTC wanted independance

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and to make Viveport and not have to use Steam

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:26 PM

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hopefully more VR hardware manufacturers

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and Microsoft can adopt say Valve's VR system as an industry standard perhaps?

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:26 PM

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yeah the Vive was designed to handle SteamVR at least

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:26 PM

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SteamVR that's right

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:26 PM

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Microsoft has been suuuper quiet about it's AR system

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no talks of VR

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:27 PM

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might as well joint venture with Valve

marsh mesa Oct 18, 2019, 4:27 PM

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I wish Oculus aswell tbh, they seem to have good products and for a better price than HTC

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:27 PM

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honestly, oculus seems to be doing much better than they used to

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the competition from HTC made them step up their game

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:27 PM

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can't all these people just get together and create a COMMON PLATFORM?

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:27 PM

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hahaha

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:27 PM

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like USB-C

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:27 PM

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that's like asking Sony and MS to work together

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:28 PM

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oh yeah

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true

marsh mesa Oct 18, 2019, 4:28 PM

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I think at this point it wouldn't work that well

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:28 PM

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though they actually might have to to fight Google Stadia

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LOL

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:28 PM

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I'm actually really upset about VR exclusivity

marsh mesa Oct 18, 2019, 4:28 PM

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people feel more comfortable with x thing

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:28 PM

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even the epic games exclusivity is upsetting

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:28 PM

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like, there already aren't that many other players in VR, why divide the player base even more? #sadface

marsh mesa Oct 18, 2019, 4:29 PM

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It's honestly depressing to see Oculus barely getting games aswell on Steam at least

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Or compatibility later than HTC

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:29 PM

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They should just work together and agree to a common protocol

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:29 PM

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they have their own library, it's fairly big still

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:29 PM

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win-win

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:30 PM

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a ton of major developers have signed with Oculus

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:30 PM

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📎 Tales-from-the-Borderlands-review-bomb-steam.png

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mandatory post

marsh mesa Oct 18, 2019, 4:30 PM

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Spartan they do have great headsets tbh and a very, VERY affordable price

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at least here in Spain

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:30 PM

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I only use epic store for the free games lol

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:30 PM

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hey you have to pay man

marsh mesa Oct 18, 2019, 4:30 PM

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for the price I get a PSVR I get a way better Oculus headset

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:31 PM

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for sure Moonlight, the new Rift S is only $559 here

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:31 PM

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they'll just extract your personal data via their spyware as payment

fleet canopy Oct 18, 2019, 4:31 PM

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Hah

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:31 PM

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sounds legit

marsh mesa Oct 18, 2019, 4:31 PM

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Idk there where you live Spartan, sadly, I can only talk from what I've seen here so far

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:31 PM

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I'm in Canada

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:32 PM

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lucky

marsh mesa Oct 18, 2019, 4:32 PM

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but then again Spain is fucking biased with PS so it doesn't matter what's the price we seem to buy it anyway

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:32 PM

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low ambient temps

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PS?

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:32 PM

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we typically have a higher price than U.S. for tech, but spain can be a bit crazy with some companies

marsh mesa Oct 18, 2019, 4:32 PM

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Playstation

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:32 PM

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they don't like Microsoft do they?

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:32 PM

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Europe has high VAT

marsh mesa Oct 18, 2019, 4:32 PM

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since Xbox one came out, Ps just got a lot of sales here

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:32 PM

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isn't the xbox insanely expensive there?

marsh mesa Oct 18, 2019, 4:33 PM

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I've seen it cheaper than the PS4

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:33 PM

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oh really?

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:33 PM

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ironically both hardware are made by AMD

marsh mesa Oct 18, 2019, 4:33 PM

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yeah here what's super expensive is the PS4 and still sells great

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:33 PM

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now they are, yeah haha

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:33 PM

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so MS and Sony can probably share the same platform

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:33 PM

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I think the OG Xbox was Intel

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I could be mistaken though

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:33 PM

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they probably have to in order to combat Google

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next consoles with raytracing and 4k 60

marsh mesa Oct 18, 2019, 4:34 PM

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Am I the only person who thinks Google Stadia is a good idea but at the same time badly executed

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:34 PM

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I just wonder how bad the lag will be

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:34 PM

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I don't even remember what Stadia is lol

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:34 PM

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or the bandwidth

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:34 PM

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that the streaming gaming thing>

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:34 PM

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yes

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seems big

marsh mesa Oct 18, 2019, 4:35 PM

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me neither until I saw it on twitter recently

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:35 PM

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and ironically...

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:35 PM

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could be okay, but not with modern games

marsh mesa Oct 18, 2019, 4:35 PM

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something about RDR2 coming out for it aswell

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:35 PM

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also powered by AMD LOL

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:35 PM

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eesh

marsh mesa Oct 18, 2019, 4:35 PM

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and i was like "ah yes that thing!"

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:35 PM

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can't see that going well

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RDR2 would have like a 6Gb/s speed requirement

marsh mesa Oct 18, 2019, 4:35 PM

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It will be like playing with my remote play on my PS4 but worse

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:35 PM

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imagine streaming 1080p 60 fps video

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:36 PM

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so many hd textures to stream in o.0

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OOF

marsh mesa Oct 18, 2019, 4:36 PM

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I can't wait to experience the laggy future

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:36 PM

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lol

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:36 PM

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if their hardware node is nearby maybe it wouldn't be so bad?

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like if it's within the same country

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it's just the amount of bandwidth problem

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:37 PM

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the ISPs in U.S. can't do it lol

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:37 PM

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if a whole lot of people take up Stadia - wouldn't that affect ISP performance?

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:37 PM

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comcast will implode with bandwith issues

marsh mesa Oct 18, 2019, 4:37 PM

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I think Stadia can be the future, but the future ain't now

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:37 PM

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really though

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the future is in the future Kappa

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:37 PM

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Google seems serious about it

marsh mesa Oct 18, 2019, 4:38 PM

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Like if you have a shitty computer like I do and don't have the money to upgrade, good shit

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But what if you also have a shitty internet

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:38 PM

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would make a great advertising and data collection platform though

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:38 PM

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google likes to do shit that doesn't really work though haha

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:38 PM

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really great one

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:38 PM

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I mean, YouTube hasn't made them a profit for years, they keep going with it.
It actually costs tme money to run it

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:38 PM

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ouch

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why I wonder

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:38 PM

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server costs

marsh mesa Oct 18, 2019, 4:38 PM

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yeah they lost a shit ton of money lmao

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:39 PM

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the sheer amount of video data being stored every day is insane

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every tom dick and harry recording their dog farting

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lol

marsh mesa Oct 18, 2019, 4:39 PM

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It's not even just that but they'd get enough money if they didn't fuck over the people who give them money

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but instead they benefit the companies which give almost nothing

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:39 PM

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it's why they are constantly trying to recover the advertising money

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:40 PM

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demonitising videos over the most political / social of reasons LOL

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a whole lot of gun channels got demonitised

marsh mesa Oct 18, 2019, 4:40 PM

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crazy idea but what if they let creators have advertisements they'd recover

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:40 PM

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^ they used to do this

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you were asked which types of ads would be best suited to your channel

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:40 PM

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a whole lot of military channels got demonitised

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:41 PM

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like a more adult gamer on YT would be asked if they would like alcohol ads played etc

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but it stopped quickly, not sure why

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:41 PM

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for justice man

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social justice

marsh mesa Oct 18, 2019, 4:41 PM

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they made bad decisions

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:41 PM

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ha ha

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:41 PM

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probably

marsh mesa Oct 18, 2019, 4:41 PM

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just like they are doing rn

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just a chain of horrible decisions

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:42 PM

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a mom saw a beer ad on Pewds channel and freaked out most likely lol

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:42 PM

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too sensitive

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everyone complains these days

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:44 PM

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everyone always complained

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we just see it more on social medias

marsh mesa Oct 18, 2019, 4:44 PM

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speaking of complaining imagine having a computer that lags even watching youtube videos but costed you around 1000 Euros at the time

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:44 PM

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shhh

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my pc fried 5 years ago, it was a $600 pre-built Acer with no gpu

marsh mesa Oct 18, 2019, 4:44 PM

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let me complain about my shitty laptop

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:44 PM

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cannot be as bad as mine

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haha

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oh well maybe it is

marsh mesa Oct 18, 2019, 4:44 PM

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I think this computer has around not even 3 years?

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:44 PM

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an AMD A3820 apu

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:45 PM

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ok that is

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:45 PM

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oh it DIED

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but now I have a BEAST

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that cost me $3300

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oof

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:45 PM

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CAD?

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:45 PM

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yup

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:45 PM

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only for the core components?

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:45 PM

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no, the entire workstation

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:45 PM

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plus peripherals?

marsh mesa Oct 18, 2019, 4:46 PM

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I hope it isn't MSI

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:46 PM

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case, cpu, gpu, ram, psu, 2 ssd, 1 hdd, headphones, podcast/boom mic, 1080p 144hz monitor and a 4k tv to split into 4 1080p screens for streaming/multi-window operations

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:46 PM

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3300 CAD / 2500 USD is pretty good deal for that

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:47 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/user/TrueSpartan_Gaming/saved/#view=WHL8YJ

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:47 PM

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I know a streamer here whom someone blew like 5K CAD to gift her a new gaming PC

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:47 PM

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crazy

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mine would have been that much if I changed my RTX 2060 for the 2080ti lol

marsh mesa Oct 18, 2019, 4:48 PM

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oof that's the case I wanted for the computer I was gonna get for my office

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:48 PM

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I LOVE this case

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it's massive though

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:48 PM

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its a GIFT from her FAN mind you

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not a family member

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:48 PM

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I wish I had fans like that lol

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:48 PM

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not a close friend

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:48 PM

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I just need a new gpu hahaha

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:48 PM

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she isn't even that famous

marsh mesa Oct 18, 2019, 4:48 PM

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Where can I get those fans

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:48 PM

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lel

marsh mesa Oct 18, 2019, 4:49 PM

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do you find them somewhere

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:49 PM

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Dubai twitch

marsh mesa Oct 18, 2019, 4:49 PM

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do they give them out on the street

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:49 PM

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Kappa

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:49 PM

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oh the supreme power of pretty girls streaming on facebook

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let me get her pic

marsh mesa Oct 18, 2019, 4:49 PM

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oh wow time to stream some ASMR I guess

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:49 PM

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yeah, thirsty bois will do quite a bit for validation from pretty girls online

marsh mesa Oct 18, 2019, 4:49 PM

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get that sweet money

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:49 PM

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just refer to all donators as your "internet boyfriends" and e-z money

marsh mesa Oct 18, 2019, 4:50 PM

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"e-boyfriends"

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:50 PM

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^

marsh mesa Oct 18, 2019, 4:50 PM

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don't forget the whiteboard with the top donator

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:50 PM

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don't even have to be pretty, or even a girl lol, just good with makeup

north bronze Oct 18, 2019, 4:51 PM

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such pc building talk, very nice :^)

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:51 PM

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I was a mod for a partnered streamer on twitch and the amount of sexist garbage that came through that chat on the regular was insane

#

whoops

north bronze Oct 18, 2019, 4:51 PM

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hehehehe

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:51 PM

#

📎 unknown.png

north bronze Oct 18, 2019, 4:51 PM

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no worries

marsh mesa Oct 18, 2019, 4:51 PM

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we are talking about how I'm gonna build my PC building career

north bronze Oct 18, 2019, 4:51 PM

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was just expecting pc building talk, but this is nice too

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LMAO

#

live asmr pc building streams

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:51 PM

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close enough lol

north bronze Oct 18, 2019, 4:51 PM

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in risqué clothing

marsh mesa Oct 18, 2019, 4:51 PM

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by writing names on whiteboards

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:51 PM

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📎 unknown.png

marsh mesa Oct 18, 2019, 4:51 PM

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while leaning down

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:52 PM

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Ok so this face is worth at least 5K CAD in single contributions

#

wow

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:52 PM

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talking about my setup, used to stream from my xbox, and now that I have a beast I haven't touched streaming in months XD

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#Anxiety

marsh mesa Oct 18, 2019, 4:52 PM

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hey she's pretty >:(

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:52 PM

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I should ask her to stream GTFO

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no make that I WILL ask her to stream GTFO

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probably have to buy her the game

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 4:52 PM

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do it

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:52 PM

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LOL

marsh mesa Oct 18, 2019, 4:52 PM

#

ViktorDab

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:53 PM

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@marsh mesa you're into professional PC hardware?

marsh mesa Oct 18, 2019, 4:53 PM

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I wish but no, I can barely understand anything

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like yeah I know a thing or two bc my father taught me but that's about it

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I just know my parents have better computers than I do and know they are good computers so I can't exchange this shitty laptop

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:55 PM

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well, have to gather some money I guess to get the PC of your desires

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I'm still stuck with this PC from 2011

urban gulch Oct 18, 2019, 4:55 PM

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take some damn comissions moon

marsh mesa Oct 18, 2019, 4:55 PM

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no

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:55 PM

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most monies go to the kids oh well

urban gulch Oct 18, 2019, 4:55 PM

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:c

marsh mesa Oct 18, 2019, 4:55 PM

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I have a computer in mind but I was gonna wait until I moved out of Spain

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:56 PM

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Moonight should start streaming

marsh mesa Oct 18, 2019, 4:56 PM

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guess I'll have to get it sooner bc I just can't with this headache

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what do you want me to stream

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:56 PM

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might get a rich fan or two

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which is odd

#

one thing

marsh mesa Oct 18, 2019, 4:56 PM

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tootin' rootin' cowboy shootin' 2

chrome chasm Oct 18, 2019, 4:56 PM

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You buy a new pc to you and rav in no time if you twitch Moon

marsh mesa Oct 18, 2019, 4:56 PM

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omg thank you toobad

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lemme write u down on the whiteboard

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oh no it's so looow I might have to lean down

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:57 PM

#

So this Lady Sovea gets gifted an i9-9900k with 32GB fast DDR4 and an RTX 2080...

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But I think the most demanding games she's playing is PUBG at 1080p 60

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It's mostly these simple 3D cartoonish games

chrome chasm Oct 18, 2019, 4:58 PM

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Why I am not surprised...

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:58 PM

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like Rocket League kind of hardware demanding

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I think if one were to open up some kind of utilization app...

chrome chasm Oct 18, 2019, 4:58 PM

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I'm worried about our future now. It's becoming accepted that cute girl streaming get everything they wish.

fiery nacelle Oct 18, 2019, 4:58 PM

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It'd show the i9 9900k at 20% and RTX 2080 at 15% LOL

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@chrome chasm that is soooooo trueeeeeeeeeeeee

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hey here they make much bigger bucks than my dedicated streamer friend and his wife (who streams together)

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should set up a stream with Moonight, Ravenna and 2 other ladies

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exclusively GTFO and horror

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and call it

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Love 4 Dead

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LOL

marsh mesa Oct 18, 2019, 5:03 PM

#

ConfusedUlf

pallid cedar Oct 18, 2019, 5:09 PM

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I am 100% either streaming GTFO or just recording every second of playtime

hexed horizon Oct 18, 2019, 6:59 PM

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we gonna have a shit ton of streamers

shy imp Oct 19, 2019, 1:12 AM

#

hey can some one help me out with my new headset? having some problems i cant figure out

gritty venture Oct 19, 2019, 1:58 AM

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what problems

fiery nacelle Oct 19, 2019, 2:04 AM

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microphone or the speakers?

shy imp Oct 19, 2019, 2:16 AM

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speakers. it has a popping sound whenever someone talks in discord and certain music or videos there is popping but not always

pallid cedar Oct 19, 2019, 2:16 AM

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go into sound settings, and find out what Khz the sound is coming out at

shy imp Oct 19, 2019, 2:17 AM

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48000

pallid cedar Oct 19, 2019, 2:17 AM

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hmm, it's not that then

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do you notice the audio spiking when the pops happen?

shy imp Oct 19, 2019, 2:19 AM

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i mean with some songs i blast it louder but it doesnt happen all the time. and no random spikes. but its weird cause every single person who talks in discord has the popping

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so i have no clue

pallid cedar Oct 19, 2019, 2:19 AM

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and you only have one active mic?

shy imp Oct 19, 2019, 2:20 AM

#

yes

pallid cedar Oct 19, 2019, 2:20 AM

#

odd

#

sound drivers all up to date?

shy imp Oct 19, 2019, 2:20 AM

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just restarted my pc and checked that. everythings good

#

up to date wise*

pallid cedar Oct 19, 2019, 2:20 AM

#

do you have sound enhancements enabled in windows?

shy imp Oct 19, 2019, 2:21 AM

#

bass boost

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that it?

pallid cedar Oct 19, 2019, 2:21 AM

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could be, try it

#

the extra bass could be causing audio spikes making it pop

shy imp Oct 19, 2019, 2:22 AM

#

ight

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can you get into voice for a sec?

pallid cedar Oct 19, 2019, 2:23 AM

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glad I could help

abstract kite Oct 21, 2019, 6:34 AM

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What’s the minimum specs for the game? Does anyone know?

urban gulch Oct 21, 2019, 6:34 AM

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Check the #faq point 3 🙂

abstract kite Oct 21, 2019, 10:11 PM

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@urban gulch thank you

north bronze Oct 22, 2019, 10:03 AM

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delivery service delivered my psu to the wrong town, pushed the delivery 24 hours back mmLul

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congratz

urban gulch Oct 22, 2019, 10:16 AM

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yay

dusty pumice Oct 22, 2019, 10:23 AM

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Amazon delivered my set of dice once to a town in africa 😴

north bronze Oct 22, 2019, 10:23 AM

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lmao

#

the heck

dusty pumice Oct 22, 2019, 10:23 AM

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Lmfao

fiery nacelle Oct 22, 2019, 12:16 PM

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dice?

bronze cloak Oct 22, 2019, 1:34 PM

#

Dice 🎲

sonic marsh Oct 22, 2019, 1:39 PM

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Dice??

pale arrow Oct 22, 2019, 2:43 PM

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I'm researching builds on pcpartspicker at the moment

late sorrel Oct 22, 2019, 2:44 PM

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cool

pale arrow Oct 22, 2019, 2:44 PM

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$4.5K USD budget as of right now

#

Waiting to see what new Intel processors come out

gritty venture Oct 22, 2019, 3:11 PM

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uuh

#

You thinking of building a NASA PC with 4.5k?

fallen phoenix Oct 22, 2019, 3:13 PM

#

^

bronze cloak Oct 22, 2019, 3:18 PM

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My absolute dream PC with literally no limits costs 4k lmao

#

Still 500 less

pallid cedar Oct 22, 2019, 3:18 PM

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mine cost me $3300.... CAD lmao

bronze cloak Oct 22, 2019, 3:22 PM

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Thanks to a bunch of gifts, I only spent about 800 USD on my whole setup, if I had made it all from scratch it would be about 1500

urban gulch Oct 22, 2019, 3:24 PM

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🙂 nice.

pale arrow Oct 22, 2019, 3:31 PM

#

NASA doesn't have 4.5K PC's 😛

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https://www.nas.nasa.gov/hecc/resources/pleiades.html

late sorrel Oct 22, 2019, 6:16 PM

#

dream pc for me is about $1.5k

fallen phoenix Oct 22, 2019, 6:16 PM

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2k

bronze cloak Oct 22, 2019, 6:54 PM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CJMBPn

plucky tangle Oct 22, 2019, 9:35 PM

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@north bronze back before I knew how to build my own pc, ibuypower sent my entire computer to the wrong state, I live in PA, they sent it to Florida. The guy who got it, opened it, ran it, and was like "woah, this isnt my specs". The random guy found my information and called ME (apparently the receipt had my info, and that was indeed in the box). Ibuypower only offered me a game for inconvenience and actually laughed at me, literally laughed, over the phone, when I told them I'm technically getting a second hand pc and to give me a discount.

north bronze Oct 22, 2019, 9:42 PM

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Rip

plucky tangle Oct 22, 2019, 9:44 PM

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So I feel your pain...

thorny granite Oct 23, 2019, 12:14 AM

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If I build one it’s gonna be a 10k rig....

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So that’s a yikes

gritty venture Oct 23, 2019, 12:18 AM

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But why?

thorny granite Oct 23, 2019, 12:19 AM

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Because

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Fuck off amounts of ram, dual 2080’s, an Intel 14 core i9

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Fuck off amounts of storage

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Solid state drives for days

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And a 4K monitor

dusty pumice Oct 23, 2019, 1:02 AM

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If that $10k setup is only for gaming thats way over the top if you are going to be streaming i would make it a dual pc setup

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Only reason for me ever a $10k budget would be reasonable for a PC would be a working from home setup and that system would be nuts

#

If i where ever to spend that huge of a sum on a PC i would definetly wait another year or two for the next generation GPU's since the 2080ti is already a year old and loss of value would be high

late sorrel Oct 23, 2019, 1:09 AM

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30 series should be pretty cool

dusty pumice Oct 23, 2019, 1:21 AM

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Yeah real question is when that shit releasing ;o

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10 series was somewhere early 2016?

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20 series was late 2018

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so maybe late 2020?

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I believe new PS5 is coming christmas 2020 or 2021

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So it would be nice if 30 series releases around that time ish

thorny granite Oct 23, 2019, 1:28 AM

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Or they skip 30 and go for 50

dusty pumice Oct 23, 2019, 1:29 AM

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I dont think they will skip 30 if "they" do its just gonna be a rename

fleet canopy Oct 23, 2019, 2:07 AM

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Since of the new stuff releasing, did ya hear about the 3950X beating the 16 core 32 thread 10980XE?

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It was by 16 or 26% I think

dusty pumice Oct 23, 2019, 2:15 AM

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Havent heard of it but at the same time havent seen any genuine reviews until now so yeah

fleet canopy Oct 23, 2019, 2:15 AM

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But I feel it was cheated cause

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3950X was done with 32 GB 3200 DDR4, and a 2080 Ti while on the other hand, 10980XE was done with a 2070 Super and 16 GB 2933 DDR4

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I’ll be back in a bit, will take a shower

dusty pumice Oct 23, 2019, 2:28 AM

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I have a i9-9980XE and EVGA X299 DARK with 2x 1080ti's so it wil be interesting to see what is gonna happen next month = ) ill be running this setup until somewhere mid june/juli 2020

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Im also gonna take a shower and wash my hair and eat some food right after so ill be back in 30 mins

sick reef Oct 23, 2019, 3:59 AM

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It's a shame they decide to rerelease 7X-series twice.

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Back when 7X, and 8 series was released, I pondered when they would make an 8-series X chip, with it's improvements to multithreading. Apparently never is the answer to that.

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Also that delidding the damn thing with liquid metal is apparently heaps and bounds better than the solder is.

dusty pumice Oct 23, 2019, 4:23 AM

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Intel Logic

sick reef Oct 23, 2019, 4:23 AM

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Does base clock matter when it does 4.8 GHz on all cores at 30 degrees idle? Maybe, but meekly.

normal meteor Oct 23, 2019, 12:15 PM

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https://www.instagram.com/p/B38jwosBO2O/

fleet canopy Oct 23, 2019, 12:19 PM

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Looks damn great, the video quality looks shit

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He can afford all of this except a good camera or video quality

dusty pumice Oct 23, 2019, 12:40 PM

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That video gave me a headache and its not because of all the RGB

plucky tangle Oct 24, 2019, 12:15 AM

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Only reason to get a 10k setup, is it you are doing like triple 2160p / 144hz 27in ips panel displays, on top of keyboard, mouse, mic, audiophile headset, dac/amp, and then a beast of a rig.

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 12:25 AM

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Way overkill stil

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 12:25 AM

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I don’t know a single PC that could ever run 3 2160p 144hz monitors

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 12:25 AM

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Like the only reason why i would go over 5k is for a 4k setup but thats only starting now to get decent 144hz screens

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 12:27 AM

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Also has got me a question, should I pay 150$~ more for a 1440p 144hz monitor since i ended up on deciding to get a 5700 XT?

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 12:27 AM

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For 144hz you would be going over 24inch and that would either take up alot of space on the wall as mounted screens or on the desk and you need one big as fucking desk to fit 3 of them 27inchers on it + having room for your audio equiptment and all the side shit like some people have a laptop for work or other stuff

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 12:27 AM

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There are wall mounts for a reason

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 12:28 AM

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I mean yeah wall mounts but depends on the room you are in if you are able to have all that space available

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 12:29 AM

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I could barely have my 2nd monitor be on the desk without not having more cord length sadly

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24” with a 22” only took up like

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 12:29 AM

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I have a 2 meter long desk and i can barely fit 2 monitors side by side

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 12:30 AM

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Half of my desk

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My PC takes up a fourth

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 12:30 AM

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With a PC standing on my desk but that shit is under a shelf so i wouldnt be able to fit a screen there anyway

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 12:30 AM

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Actually no my whole desk is completely taken over

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 12:30 AM

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My PC takes up like 1/10th

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 12:30 AM

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And I’m saying it by their length, not whole area btw

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 12:31 AM

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I have desk mounts and it kinda takes in a big area even tho its a desk mount

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Woops

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 12:32 AM

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Oof

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 12:32 AM

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But talking about the 1440p 144hz i think its definetly worth it but depends what games u be playing

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 12:32 AM

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I try to manage what I can with the space I have of desk

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 12:32 AM

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I try to optimize my space completly aswell

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I have alot of audio equiptment fitted on my desk which takes up like 1/3rd of my desk

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 12:33 AM

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I mean, I’m going with a 5700 XT, doesn’t seem any less worth it tbh

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Yikes

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 12:33 AM

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I have 3 screens two vertical ones and a 31.5 inch monitor

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And a 65 inch wall mounted tv for the consoles

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 12:36 AM

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That’s cool

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 12:36 AM

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Only issue i had with making a choice for a good 1440p or higher monitor was the lack of choice

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I could choose from like 200 monitors in 1080p but ended up only being able to choose from like 50 monitors in 3840x2160 and like 60 in 2560x1440p

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And when your choosing for a 144hz screen you only have like 10 - 20 options left to choose from

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 12:40 AM

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Yeah, that’s true

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 12:41 AM

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I know theres alot of decent quality 165hz screens releasing next year so thats nice

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 12:41 AM

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They never really seem to bother making more despite the fact a good amount of people have PCs good enough to run 1440p 144hz like a breeze

thorny granite Oct 24, 2019, 12:41 AM

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But are they 4K 165hz?

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 12:41 AM

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Maybe it’s harder to make? Idk

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 12:42 AM

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Yes one or two 4k monitors i believe

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 12:42 AM

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4K 144Hz is hard :)

thorny granite Oct 24, 2019, 12:42 AM

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4K over 30hz is hard

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 12:42 AM

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4k is actually getting more 144hz monitors next year

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 12:42 AM

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Oh really?

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 12:42 AM

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Yup

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 12:42 AM

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But you need like

thorny granite Oct 24, 2019, 12:42 AM

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They don’t make any 4K 60hz tv’s actually

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 12:42 AM

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Its not gonna be cheap

thorny granite Oct 24, 2019, 12:43 AM

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Definitely not. Lol.

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 12:43 AM

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I think its somewhere between price range of 1500 and 2500 lol

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 12:43 AM

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2080 to actually have good stable 4K 60Hz? I most likely am wrong

thorny granite Oct 24, 2019, 12:43 AM

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You can manage with a 1080

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 12:43 AM

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I dont know the actual numbers but i believe 2080ti runs somewhere between 60 and 85fps on 4k

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 12:44 AM

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I’m not entirely sure how cards will perform on a 4K monitor because I haven’t really heard much about how

thorny granite Oct 24, 2019, 12:44 AM

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1080 can handle dual 4K monitors

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 12:44 AM

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Yikes, I think I’ve heard that

thorny granite Oct 24, 2019, 12:44 AM

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That’s dual 4K at 30hz

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So in theory it could run a single 4K at 60hz

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 12:44 AM

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I wouldnt run dual 4k but thats me

thorny granite Oct 24, 2019, 12:45 AM

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I run 1080p. Lol

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 12:45 AM

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@fiery nacelle might run double monitors on 4k if he had the setup for it lol

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hes already on a 4k monitor and his setup is alot older than ours

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 12:46 AM

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I have a lot of doubts about how GPUs can run 4K

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 12:46 AM

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I mean you can find alot of tests done on 4k for the 20 series

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 12:47 AM

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But I’m just someone who only has one PC built which only seems to perform at 1080p best than 1440p

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‘A lot’

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 12:47 AM

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I mean yeah but arent you running a 2060?

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 12:47 AM

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Sees a bunch of fake ass 4K videos

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Ahem

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I run a 1060 3gb lol help me

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 12:47 AM

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Lmfao

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 12:48 AM

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I wish I had gotten the 6GB

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 12:48 AM

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One of my friends is running a 1060 aswell

thorny granite Oct 24, 2019, 12:48 AM

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I run a 1060 6gb

plucky tangle Oct 24, 2019, 12:48 AM

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I personally prefer 1080p 144hz over 2k 144hz, especially with the price difference. There is still no gpu that is running 2k at ultra settings and getting 144fps

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 12:48 AM

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Batman Arkham something almost used up all my 3 GB vram at lowest settings

thorny granite Oct 24, 2019, 12:49 AM

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Yikes

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 12:49 AM

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I play tons of GTA on private servers that shit is destroying my pc sometimes lol

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 12:50 AM

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Oof

plucky tangle Oct 24, 2019, 12:50 AM

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Yeah, unless your playing CS-GO, people are not running games on ultra, 2k, 144+ fps constant

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 12:50 AM

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My PC can’t really run GTAV without like

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 12:50 AM

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In the private servers especially the RP servers all the coding is custom

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 12:50 AM

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Ending up stuttering

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Actually

late sorrel Oct 24, 2019, 12:50 AM

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I’ve got a RX570

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 12:50 AM

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The last time I played it, grass made the game lag like a motherfucker

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 12:50 AM

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And when they bring in certain files for cars or clothing it can fuck with the whole server

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or certain areas of the map where your whole screen starts to freeze and stutter

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 12:51 AM

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And settings are well below the vram limit

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 12:51 AM

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I usually stream when i play GTA so yeah it messes up alot

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 12:52 AM

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I think the lag caused the game to crash lol

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One time

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 12:52 AM

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Its kinda the only thing in gaming that gives me some form of enjoyment havent really played any games recently that made me enjoy the actual gameplay

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I hope that will change once new games release next year

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 12:53 AM

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I got bored of the game too, already experienced everything there was except the new update idk

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 12:53 AM

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I mean streaming is keeping gaming for me enjoyable only because of the chat interaction

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 12:54 AM

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For me, I’ve started losing fun in what I used to play often or like

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 12:54 AM

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But tbh i just lost interest in alot of games like CSGO and PUBG its just not doing it for me anymore

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 12:54 AM

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Same

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CSGO has really lost its touch

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PUBG hasn’t been any easier but I still try

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 12:56 AM

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PUBG was not very hard for me but i went over to APEX and that shit had so many issues recently that i just left that shit

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 12:56 AM

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Oof

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 12:56 AM

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Most of these games are just lack of updates that make me stop playing tbh

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 12:56 AM

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Apex isn’t fun because forced to play with a squad

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 12:57 AM

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You can put in 100s or 1000s of hours but wont give you the same enjoyment when you start getting burned out on it

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 12:57 AM

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I heard it had a zombie mode sort of update recently though

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 12:57 AM

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Yeah thats complete shit lol

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 12:57 AM

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Oof

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 12:57 AM

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Zombie update on Rainbow 6 was fun last year

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 12:58 AM

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Yeah

late sorrel Oct 24, 2019, 12:58 AM

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Apex is okay

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 12:58 AM

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They’re having it again soon I heard

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 12:59 AM

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I have like 550 hours in apex and i am pretty done with it crashing every time fucking sucks

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 12:59 AM

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Damn

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 12:59 AM

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Especially in ranked even tho u dont lose any points but its highly annoying

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So mayo whats the planning on the setup?

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Just getting a new graphics and a new screen?

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 1:00 AM

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Only game at 400 hrs is GTAV and possibly CSSO

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Nope, whole build

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Will link the build, hold

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 1:01 AM

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I thought u build ur shit already lmfao

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How long have you been working on this build like 9 months?

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 1:02 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rzPhq3

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First, job need

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 1:03 AM

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Why dont you go with the new black noctua ones

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 1:03 AM

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Can’t find them for shit lol

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 1:04 AM

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I mean grey fans arent bad

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Makes the case look a bit different instead of full black

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 1:04 AM

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I do want the black though, would be nice

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 1:05 AM

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Yeah those are fucking nice

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 1:05 AM

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I’ll color them red a bit too ig

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 1:05 AM

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Especially with the rubbers you are able to pick your own colours

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 1:05 AM

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Yes

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 1:06 AM

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I can get the chromax ones in my country and the industrial ones

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Industrial ones are like full black with dark red / brown sides

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 1:07 AM

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Nice

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 1:08 AM

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But i think those are way higher RPM so idk i would need to look those up first

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 1:08 AM

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Only thing I got 5700 XT was because I checked 5700 and I only saw 380$

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Well not only 380$, but enough to make me go for a 5700 XT

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 1:10 AM

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Blackfriday is soon imma buy some stuff and cybermonday

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So ur paying like 60 extra on the XT?

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Might be able to grab a deal somewhere when ur ready to buy it and grab a free deal or some $ off

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 1:16 AM

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I mean, yeah

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Specs looked better than the others, good cooling too as said by The hat guy

late sorrel Oct 24, 2019, 1:17 AM

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nitro+ is literally better than the 2070S by a couple frames

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I don

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't have the links

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but it's godly

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 1:18 AM

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Im skipping the whole 20 series i think

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 1:18 AM

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A couple frames isn’t much lol, but it seemed to be top card compared to other 5700 XT cards

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 1:18 AM

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Fuck the RTX bullshit 😴

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 1:19 AM

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Lmao

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RTX is basically 100+

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 1:19 AM

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Im gonna be using my friends setup until mid next year anyway

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 1:19 AM

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Or 800+

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 1:19 AM

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Since he will be coming back from a mission then ill probably give him a bit of cash to upgrade his shit

late sorrel Oct 24, 2019, 1:20 AM

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RTX is +100

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 1:20 AM

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2080 Ti is 800

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dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 1:20 AM

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I mean RTX could be good but lack of games that use it is crazy for me that they implemented it now

late sorrel Oct 24, 2019, 1:20 AM

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doot bought rtx ;C

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 1:20 AM

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What did doot buy?

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 1:20 AM

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There’s quite a few good games

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2080 Ti clearly

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lol idk

late sorrel Oct 24, 2019, 1:21 AM

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he got a 2070S

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 1:21 AM

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Oof

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 1:21 AM

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I mean yeah theres some good games but its stil slacking

late sorrel Oct 24, 2019, 1:21 AM

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and his watercooled 5700XT died

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 1:21 AM

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He paid the 100+

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 1:21 AM

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What lmfao

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 1:21 AM

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Oh damn

late sorrel Oct 24, 2019, 1:21 AM

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so ¯_(ツ)_/¯

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 1:21 AM

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When did that shit die

late sorrel Oct 24, 2019, 1:21 AM

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idk

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 1:21 AM

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Did he even talk about it on his discord?

late sorrel Oct 24, 2019, 1:21 AM

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he said that it died or something

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 1:21 AM

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No

late sorrel Oct 24, 2019, 1:21 AM

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He mentioned it twice

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 1:21 AM

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Oh okay

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 1:21 AM

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Never seen it lmfao

late sorrel Oct 24, 2019, 1:21 AM

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lemme grab it

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it's pretty cool

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 1:22 AM

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thats crazy

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All his parts keep dying especially his graphics cards

late sorrel Oct 24, 2019, 1:22 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/576619629548535838/607227647071879168/IMG_20190803_193032.jpg

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/576619629548535838/607227648808321034/IMG_20190803_203151.jpg

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 1:22 AM

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Damn his radeon died aswell

late sorrel Oct 24, 2019, 1:22 AM

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yeah

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rip vega

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 1:23 AM

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Hopefully he actually got his money back this time

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Idk if he broke any warranty by taking that GPU cooler off

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 1:24 AM

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Well

late sorrel Oct 24, 2019, 1:24 AM

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I think he might have

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 1:24 AM

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It’s most likely the fact he does take apart the parts and do shit to it

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 1:24 AM

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in my country it breaks warranty but idk about others

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 1:24 AM

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He mentioned he does it

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Should be same for worldwide

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 1:25 AM

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Well i mean i get shop warranty not Nvidia or AMD so bit different for me

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I think but maybe its the same idk

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 1:26 AM

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I’ll look for the black noctua fans, then will come back

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 1:26 AM

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I never had any issues with my GPU's before tho only CPU's ever and powersupply

late sorrel Oct 24, 2019, 1:26 AM

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I broke my warranty for my old HD5670 the other day

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 1:26 AM

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@fleet canopy should be an easy find tbh its on their amazon shop and some other well known online market in usa

late sorrel Oct 24, 2019, 1:26 AM

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I took the screws off

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 1:26 AM

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u didnt have warranty tinted lmfao

late sorrel Oct 24, 2019, 1:27 AM

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I had a manufacturers warranty

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 1:27 AM

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that shit so old

late sorrel Oct 24, 2019, 1:27 AM

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yeah ik

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 1:27 AM

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I bet that manufacturers warranty is off already

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 1:27 AM

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Cannot find, never mind

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 1:27 AM

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Believe its only like 1 or two years

late sorrel Oct 24, 2019, 1:28 AM

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I know

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it still hurt to break the stickers

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 1:28 AM

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Well dont break the stickers on ur future relationship thats gonna hurt more

late sorrel Oct 24, 2019, 1:28 AM

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o:

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what stickers would I be breaking??

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 1:29 AM

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Id probably get booted of the server if i explain that one lmfao

late sorrel Oct 24, 2019, 1:29 AM

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dm

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pls

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 1:30 AM

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D0c coming with his broomstick

late sorrel Oct 24, 2019, 1:30 AM

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sweep sweep man

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d0c doesn't have to change his pfp for halloween

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he is already the warlock of GTFO

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 1:30 AM

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Yeah he already has his outfit ready

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What GPU are you running now @late sorrel

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5700XT?

late sorrel Oct 24, 2019, 1:31 AM

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RX570

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 1:31 AM

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Ahh

late sorrel Oct 24, 2019, 1:35 AM

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and a 2600

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 1:35 AM

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What about you Groundus? I don’t think I’ve heard of what you have atm

late sorrel Oct 24, 2019, 1:36 AM

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aren;t you using dual 1080Ti's?

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 1:36 AM

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Im running 1080ti's in sli

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 1:40 AM

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I’m gonna take a guess the CPU is a 9700K

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 1:40 AM

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I9-9980XE

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 1:42 AM

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Jesus fuck okay lmao

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 1:42 AM

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Lmfao dont worry it didnt cost as much as you would think

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 1:42 AM

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Ok lol

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Ik*

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 1:42 AM

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I think he got it under 1000 euros when it was new

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 1:43 AM

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But it’s still a high end CPU though kek

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 1:43 AM

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It is but it was for sale here close to 2000 euros

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thats an insane price tbh

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 1:44 AM

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Christ

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 1:44 AM

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maybe even over 2000 euros i dont know it was somewhere in that price range tho

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 1:44 AM

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If I had to guess

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 1:44 AM

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What i wouldnt recommend anymore is going double on videocards tho its just not worth the money investment

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 1:44 AM

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It’s either 700$ or 1300$

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I know 2x isn’t good anymore

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 1:44 AM

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You have like 2 - 3 / 4 years and lose so much value on it

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 1:45 AM

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It used to be good I heard at one point

thorny granite Oct 24, 2019, 1:45 AM

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pops in.

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 1:45 AM

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But yeah it sucks and only worth it for workstation

thorny granite Oct 24, 2019, 1:45 AM

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You two talk a lot

late sorrel Oct 24, 2019, 1:45 AM

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it was good at one point

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we all talk alot solari

thorny granite Oct 24, 2019, 1:46 AM

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Lmfao

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 1:46 AM

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This is the most active I’ve seen this chat be

late sorrel Oct 24, 2019, 1:46 AM

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I believe I am 3rd in this server for messages

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 1:46 AM

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For this week

late sorrel Oct 24, 2019, 1:46 AM

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like 18k?

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 1:46 AM

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This chat has been dead for a month

thorny granite Oct 24, 2019, 1:46 AM

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They’ve been talking for hours. Lol.

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 1:46 AM

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Lmao yeah

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 1:46 AM

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Only thing that has happend here was one or two discussions

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And some help questions

late sorrel Oct 24, 2019, 1:46 AM

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people just come out of the woodwork

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you know

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we live in a society

thorny granite Oct 24, 2019, 1:46 AM

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Really only like an hour and a half

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But yea

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XD

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 1:47 AM

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What else is there to do for me nothing at the moment no games to play no movies to watch and no tv series lol

thorny granite Oct 24, 2019, 1:47 AM

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Fair point

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 1:47 AM

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This is pretty much fun for school anyways

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I’m stuck at the dorm with nothing but my phone and a couple books

thorny granite Oct 24, 2019, 1:48 AM

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I’m laying in my bedroom floor with the world at my fingertips

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And still i’m here

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 1:48 AM

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What country are you from mayo? US or UK?

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 1:48 AM

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Lmao

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US

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 1:48 AM

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Yeah i thought US but the dorm thing kinda confused me lmfao

thorny granite Oct 24, 2019, 1:49 AM

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It’s a college room...

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 1:49 AM

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Regular grade school

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 1:49 AM

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I know but i believe both US and UK use that word

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 1:49 AM

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No college yet, not at that point

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 1:49 AM

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Damn ur a young one huh

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 1:49 AM

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16

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 1:49 AM

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Werent u like 16 or 17

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ye

thorny granite Oct 24, 2019, 1:49 AM

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It’s like an apartment for students... usually college

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 1:49 AM

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thought u said that before

thorny granite Oct 24, 2019, 1:50 AM

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I’m the oldest in a few of my chats

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 1:50 AM

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I know sirus

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 1:50 AM

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Yeah it’s pretty much college but some grade schools have it as that

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 1:50 AM

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Im probably older but not sure lmfao

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I am 26

thorny granite Oct 24, 2019, 1:50 AM

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Probably

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Yeesh. Old fart. 0-0

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 1:50 AM

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Yup lmfao

thorny granite Oct 24, 2019, 1:51 AM

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I’m 21. Lol.

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 1:51 AM

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Gladly i am that old

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Couldnt say i would want to miss all the good times back in the day

thorny granite Oct 24, 2019, 1:51 AM

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My ex girlfriend is actually 26 now I think... 🤔

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 1:51 AM

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And all the games where an amazing one time payment for quality

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I never dated older girls but i never had the chance to do that either lmfao

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Usually one or two years younger

thorny granite Oct 24, 2019, 1:52 AM

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I’m not particularly picky...

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But then again.

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I probably should be

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She was cute. I have a thing for redheads...

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 1:53 AM

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I was way too picky with girls when i was younger

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Missed so many good times

thorny granite Oct 24, 2019, 1:53 AM

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But then she moved to Florida, broke up with me a few months later, and got married to some guy a month after that.

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 1:53 AM

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Damn thats rough

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 1:54 AM

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My preferred usually is 1-3 years apart from my age

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As a 16 year old though, I won’t date a 13-14 year old

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 1:54 AM

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I havent been in a relationship for a bit now kinda cant be fucked

thorny granite Oct 24, 2019, 1:54 AM

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I care less about age, so long as they aren’t antique or a smol child...

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 1:54 AM

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Everyone wants to marry at my age

thorny granite Oct 24, 2019, 1:54 AM

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^^

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 1:54 AM

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And i kinda want some freedom before i start thinking about kids

thorny granite Oct 24, 2019, 1:54 AM

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I know the feelz

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 1:54 AM

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You care less about age?

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Age is just a number

thorny granite Oct 24, 2019, 1:55 AM

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She wanted to get married and I was like... “ehhh. Later.”

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 1:55 AM

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It is

thorny granite Oct 24, 2019, 1:55 AM

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I’d date anyone 18-25

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 1:55 AM

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But if you are dating people who already have their whole lifes planned out it kinda starts to not be a number

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But more like a prisoncell lmfao

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 1:55 AM

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Lol like the one photo where a small sized pink drawing is 13, and a taller blue person is 30

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 1:55 AM

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Id date anyone around 20 - 23 tbh

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 1:55 AM

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Age is just a number

thorny granite Oct 24, 2019, 1:56 AM

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Guys. 0-0

dusty pumice Oct 24, 2019, 1:56 AM

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Those girls dont arent really focused on the future yet but more living in the now

late sorrel Oct 24, 2019, 1:56 AM

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guyyys

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this is the pc chanel

thorny granite Oct 24, 2019, 1:56 AM

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One of my pc fans is rattling

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Help me

fleet canopy Oct 24, 2019, 1:56 AM

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Oof