#pc-build-help-and-tech-talk | GTFO | Page 34

late sorrel Oct 9, 2019, 10:38 PM

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2k is much better than 1080p though

hexed horizon Oct 9, 2019, 10:38 PM

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that also

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1440p just as good

chrome chasm Oct 9, 2019, 10:38 PM

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I barely see the diff in 2k/4k. There is one, but not worth it for the performance you need.

fiery nacelle Oct 9, 2019, 10:38 PM

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4k more apparent / useful for 32" and up screens

late sorrel Oct 9, 2019, 10:38 PM

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Yeah, I'd just buy a 2k monitor

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oh yeah there's that

fiery nacelle Oct 9, 2019, 10:39 PM

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below that, a 1440p is very sharp for almost all

late sorrel Oct 9, 2019, 10:39 PM

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4k is a main selling point for TV's

chrome chasm Oct 9, 2019, 10:39 PM

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2K 240hz monitor

late sorrel Oct 9, 2019, 10:39 PM

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^

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yeah

fiery nacelle Oct 9, 2019, 10:39 PM

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240 frames - definitely need the 2080 ti haha

late sorrel Oct 9, 2019, 10:39 PM

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just make sure it's Freesync

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and then you've got no worries

hexed horizon Oct 9, 2019, 10:39 PM

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the human eye can't see above 24 frames a sec

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checkmate

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you just wasted money

late sorrel Oct 9, 2019, 10:40 PM

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that's false

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the human eye can see up to about 100FPS

fleet canopy Oct 9, 2019, 10:40 PM

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The human eye can’t see above 23 FPS

late sorrel Oct 9, 2019, 10:40 PM

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and I'm telling you I can tell the diff from 30 and 144 fps

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mayo no

fleet canopy Oct 9, 2019, 10:40 PM

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Lmao

late sorrel Oct 9, 2019, 10:40 PM

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this is a false fact

fleet canopy Oct 9, 2019, 10:40 PM

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I’m not that dumb

hexed horizon Oct 9, 2019, 10:40 PM

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bro if you a person saw 100FPS literally the wind blowing in your face would blind you temporarely

late sorrel Oct 9, 2019, 10:40 PM

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oh good

hexed horizon Oct 9, 2019, 10:40 PM

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checkmate

fiery nacelle Oct 9, 2019, 10:41 PM

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"HOW CAN MIRRORS BE REAL IF OUR EYES AREN'T REAL"

fleet canopy Oct 9, 2019, 10:41 PM

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I can easily see difference between 30 to 60 FPS

late sorrel Oct 9, 2019, 10:41 PM

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oh shit oh fuck sam

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you've found my secret

hexed horizon Oct 9, 2019, 10:41 PM

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well 45FPS is decent for me

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never wanted more

late sorrel Oct 9, 2019, 10:41 PM

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well

chrome chasm Oct 9, 2019, 10:42 PM

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Look at the test monitor 60hz vs 240hz

late sorrel Oct 9, 2019, 10:42 PM

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I mean, I prefer getting closer to 100

hexed horizon Oct 9, 2019, 10:42 PM

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actually, I don't give a shit about frames

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if a game can be locked to 30 imma do it, because uncapped 45FPS can make my mouse laggy

late sorrel Oct 9, 2019, 10:42 PM

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I'm gunna get a 144hz monitor anyway

fiery nacelle Oct 9, 2019, 10:42 PM

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oh 144 is VERY nice my man

late sorrel Oct 9, 2019, 10:42 PM

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as long as it's freesync

fiery nacelle Oct 9, 2019, 10:42 PM

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trust me

late sorrel Oct 9, 2019, 10:42 PM

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yeah I've seen monitors

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and it's beautiful

hexed horizon Oct 9, 2019, 10:43 PM

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remember the old times

fleet canopy Oct 9, 2019, 10:43 PM

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I’m also getting 144

hexed horizon Oct 9, 2019, 10:43 PM

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i used to have a CRT up until 2015

late sorrel Oct 9, 2019, 10:43 PM

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oh wow

fiery nacelle Oct 9, 2019, 10:43 PM

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if your PC can keep a near constant, say 120 frames per second fed to an IPS/VA monitor with backlight strobe / black frame insertion - the experience is fantastic

fleet canopy Oct 9, 2019, 10:43 PM

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I don’t there’s that much difference in price with 100 to 144

hexed horizon Oct 9, 2019, 10:43 PM

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no shit

late sorrel Oct 9, 2019, 10:43 PM

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I had a CRT back in 2008

fiery nacelle Oct 9, 2019, 10:43 PM

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so surreal

late sorrel Oct 9, 2019, 10:44 PM

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yeeeee

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I cannot wait

hexed horizon Oct 9, 2019, 10:44 PM

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i had a CRT from 2000 to 2015

fiery nacelle Oct 9, 2019, 10:44 PM

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@hexed horizon weren't you looking for a 1080p 144Hz 24" monitor too?

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the other day

chrome chasm Oct 9, 2019, 10:44 PM

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https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07FDDR4MN?ascsubtag=7bf39913-dcad-4d1a-9f4d-18fbac4dcf3d&linkCode=g12&tag=ignonelinkca-20&th=1 Anyone found a better one?With both 2k and high hz with 1ms

hexed horizon Oct 9, 2019, 10:44 PM

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i will buy one once GTFO is released

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tho i'm not planning or replacing until this shit breaks

fleet canopy Oct 9, 2019, 10:45 PM

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What the hell is that price

late sorrel Oct 9, 2019, 10:45 PM

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That's CAD

fleet canopy Oct 9, 2019, 10:45 PM

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What is 790 Canada dollars to USD

late sorrel Oct 9, 2019, 10:45 PM

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it's like 650 iirc

hexed horizon Oct 9, 2019, 10:45 PM

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62 donuts

fleet canopy Oct 9, 2019, 10:45 PM

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Dafuq

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Just get a 24” 144hz 1080p

chrome chasm Oct 9, 2019, 10:45 PM

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around 650

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Fuck 1080p

late sorrel Oct 9, 2019, 10:46 PM

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bUt MeH 2K

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I agree with that statment though

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2k is worth it

fleet canopy Oct 9, 2019, 10:46 PM

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HEE HEE 2K

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I mean, totally

late sorrel Oct 9, 2019, 10:46 PM

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lmao imagine being 2k and getting a lawsuit

chrome chasm Oct 9, 2019, 10:46 PM

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XD

fiery nacelle Oct 9, 2019, 10:46 PM

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@chrome chasm that one is a TN-panel, if you don't mind

late sorrel Oct 9, 2019, 10:47 PM

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ooo tn panels

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very cool

fleet canopy Oct 9, 2019, 10:47 PM

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I think there was a 240Hz 1ms 2K monitor

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At 27”

late sorrel Oct 9, 2019, 10:47 PM

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yeah same

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I'm pretty sure there was

fiery nacelle Oct 9, 2019, 10:48 PM

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@chrome chasm there are 27" monitors out there with IPS panels, 1440p, 144/165Hz for slightly more - not sure of the model numbers

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Viewsonic too used to sell these - then probably newer models emerged

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I have been quite behind the latest models

chrome chasm Oct 9, 2019, 10:49 PM

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I gotta stop looking at this. make me wanna spend more money XD

fiery nacelle Oct 9, 2019, 10:49 PM

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haha yeah

chrome chasm Oct 9, 2019, 10:49 PM

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See ya lol

fleet canopy Oct 9, 2019, 10:49 PM

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Take care

hexed horizon Oct 9, 2019, 10:49 PM

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Hmm

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Bye

fiery nacelle Oct 9, 2019, 10:49 PM

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but do keep in mind - maybe avoid TN?

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if possible, IPS

fleet canopy Oct 9, 2019, 10:50 PM

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I’ve heard of 1080p HD and then there’s UHD

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Anything with that?

late sorrel Oct 9, 2019, 10:50 PM

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UHD is a marketing label

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iirc

fleet canopy Oct 9, 2019, 10:51 PM

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Kek

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I keep seeing that shit everywhere

north bronze Oct 10, 2019, 2:51 PM

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Ayy received the case

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Small steps

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I did NOT think the side panel was actually glass but holy shit it's gorgeous

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I thought it'd be plastic stuff

chrome chasm Oct 10, 2019, 2:54 PM

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👌

dense wasp Oct 10, 2019, 3:02 PM

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neat

north bronze Oct 10, 2019, 3:04 PM

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probs gonna get the PSU, Motherboard and CPU Cooler next

hexed horizon Oct 10, 2019, 4:03 PM

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👍

late sorrel Oct 10, 2019, 4:04 PM

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oo pretty nice

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what's the case?

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I want one with my no money sadyeehaw

fleet canopy Oct 10, 2019, 6:11 PM

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God damn is it good looking

north bronze Oct 10, 2019, 7:14 PM

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@late sorrel coolermaster h500

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atx

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wired it up with my old components (ew), the airflow is great and i love the look

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nom

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late sorrel Oct 10, 2019, 7:20 PM

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niice

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it’s super cool

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looks better irl than what it does on the website

north bronze Oct 10, 2019, 7:21 PM

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ikr

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i was surprised

urban gulch Oct 10, 2019, 7:30 PM

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mine's 530 lul

north bronze Oct 10, 2019, 8:06 PM

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if I get my entire build with everything except the gpu, and then switch later on, would i need to reinstall windows for a clean install?

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old is gtx 1060

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new is rx 5700 xt

dense wasp Oct 10, 2019, 8:07 PM

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Thinking about getting an NZHT H500 for my next build

late sorrel Oct 10, 2019, 8:45 PM

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what about

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the

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H510

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also, @north bronze probably not, no

dense wasp Oct 10, 2019, 8:49 PM

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ah yes

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it was the H510, ofc

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the newest one

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don't know the difference between them though, but I havn't done any research

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th H510 Elite is sweet as well, a bit on the expensive side though

sick reef Oct 11, 2019, 4:28 AM

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If I ever switch case, I'm probably switching to another server tower that I convert.

dense wasp Oct 11, 2019, 8:43 AM

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😅

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I have some builds I want to do,
I'd like to build a Louqe Ghost S1 as well, it's a nice chassi.

inner lily Oct 11, 2019, 11:23 AM

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ultrahappy

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finally ordered my 2080s #media-and-memes

urban gulch Oct 11, 2019, 11:34 AM

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nice 😄

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even the super edition 🙂

hexed horizon Oct 11, 2019, 11:43 AM

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bad

fleet canopy Oct 11, 2019, 11:55 AM

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Should have gotten 5700 XT smh lol but really, that’s pretty great to hear!

inner lily Oct 11, 2019, 12:05 PM

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2080s comes w/ the new moderm warfare so

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xd

fleet canopy Oct 11, 2019, 12:06 PM

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Kek

dense wasp Oct 11, 2019, 1:09 PM

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wireless gaming mouse vs wired

worth getting a wireless?
go!

hexed horizon Oct 11, 2019, 1:11 PM

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Hamborgor 🍔

fiery nacelle Oct 11, 2019, 1:38 PM

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@dense wasp if it must be wireless, it should be a Logitech Gaming one haha

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Their Lightspeed tech is so much better than the rest

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And their hyper low energy but high performance HERO sensor too

wheat magnet Oct 11, 2019, 1:41 PM

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I have been using wireless mouse, and I have been really, really content with it. It gives you a lot more wiggle room, the cable does not get in the way or restrict the movement I'm trying to do with my wrist, and if I have to reposition my mouse suddenly while in game, it has no restriction or wire weighting it down. but to be fair, im using a standard office mouse for gaming lmao

fiery nacelle Oct 11, 2019, 1:42 PM

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standard wireless Logitech using their dongle?

wheat magnet Oct 11, 2019, 1:43 PM

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I use hama sir

fiery nacelle Oct 11, 2019, 1:43 PM

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oh I didn't know they made mice

wheat magnet Oct 11, 2019, 1:43 PM

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https://cdn.huntoffice.co.uk/images/P.cache.large/474924.jpg

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this one

fiery nacelle Oct 11, 2019, 1:43 PM

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thought it was more focused on audiovisual and stage equipment

wheat magnet Oct 11, 2019, 1:43 PM

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It's a really great mouse

fiery nacelle Oct 11, 2019, 1:44 PM

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looks nice

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for smaller hands right?

wheat magnet Oct 11, 2019, 1:44 PM

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I mean I guess yes. It's bigger than most small mouses, but not proper mouse sized

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so i guess medium?

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it fits into my hands perfectly thou

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never had any wrist pain or anything like that

fiery nacelle Oct 11, 2019, 1:45 PM

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standard wireless is ok for casual non-FPS gaming

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I used to have a Gigabyte ECO xxxx wireless mouse

wheat magnet Oct 11, 2019, 1:46 PM

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It's good for FPS as well tbh.

fiery nacelle Oct 11, 2019, 1:46 PM

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biggest drawback of standard office wireless for most non-pro gamers is the input latency and refresh rate

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switch to a wired gaming mouse at > 500MHz or similar Logitech Lightspeed wireless

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there is a difference, albeit rather pricy

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however, of course, the difference is more apparent if our PC can hit 60fps consistently - at an average closer to 30 fps, it's harder to "feel" the difference

dense wasp Oct 11, 2019, 1:48 PM

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I've never used a wireless one, figured I should know what people are using, and get one

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the logitech ones seem good

fiery nacelle Oct 11, 2019, 1:48 PM

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oh there is an EXCELLENT gaming mouse dedicated channel we all should see

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RocketJumpNinja

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covers almost EVERYTHING one would want to know

chrome chasm Oct 11, 2019, 1:48 PM

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If you going wireless, I recommend anything that come with a double battery, soo you can easily switch on the fly when one goes down.

fiery nacelle Oct 11, 2019, 1:49 PM

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oh the Logitech latest ones have in-built Li-Ion packs

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with a charging cum signal cable

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I think the current goal is as lightweight as possible

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especially important for FPS players

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https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGJaDZC7PChgd-XMwcbZkiw

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uc0WRg_sl8M

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@dense wasp

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Logitech has this guy as part of their testing team too

chrome chasm Oct 11, 2019, 1:52 PM

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Wow this guy has the most mouse

fiery nacelle Oct 11, 2019, 1:52 PM

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oooh yeah

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blew a WHOLE LOT of money on mouse

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could probably write them all off as "business expenses" maybe?

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haha

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Making money off Youtube channel as a side business

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It's impressive that the gaming peripheral companies like Logitech include his feedback into their design process, alongside a whole lot of pro gamers of course

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He's a pretty excellent twitch FPS gamer - Quake series

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http://www.rocketjumpninja.com/

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his website

chrome chasm Oct 11, 2019, 1:56 PM

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Finalmouse sold out

fiery nacelle Oct 11, 2019, 1:57 PM

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do they ship outside the states?

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just curious

chrome chasm Oct 11, 2019, 1:59 PM

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680$ CAD for that mouse due to sold out XD

fiery nacelle Oct 11, 2019, 2:00 PM

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really pricy

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might as well pick up a late-model Logitech G Pro Wireless?

chrome chasm Oct 11, 2019, 2:02 PM

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But it's 68 USD on finalmouse official website

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like.. how to abuse limited stock

fiery nacelle Oct 11, 2019, 2:03 PM

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68 USD is ok I suppose for a limited production mouse

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very light

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Another cheaper mass manufactured alternative is the Cooler Master MM710

chrome chasm Oct 11, 2019, 2:05 PM

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The one I got is fine. it is a bit big for my hands but i'm not an heavy fps competitive player.

fiery nacelle Oct 11, 2019, 2:05 PM

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can't get them here though

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we're stuck with the usual brands

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at least Logitech sells at a reasonable "conversion" compared to USD pricing

chrome chasm Oct 11, 2019, 2:06 PM

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Yup saw it, The mouse and keyboard from CM might be my next purchase if those I have stop functioning.

fiery nacelle Oct 11, 2019, 2:07 PM

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due to socioeconomic factors, the buying power here is way much less

chrome chasm Oct 11, 2019, 2:07 PM

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I guess you will pay a lot for shipping if you purchase from USA?

fiery nacelle Oct 11, 2019, 2:07 PM

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so much less so that even a Logitech G304 is viewed as an "ultra" luxurious high end product

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oh they sell locally here too

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just that the median wage earner here earns like 15k USD annually

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for most commonly available PC hardware, it's usually the same between buying locally, or buying from Amazon USA and shipping it here

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for some PC hardware, it can be cheaper to purchase from Amazon USA and ship it here - ESPECIALLY if there are discounts or deals

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usually smaller lighter items like SSDs, etc.

chrome chasm Oct 11, 2019, 2:12 PM

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Do they sometime offer free shipping? And I guess price isn't adapted with regional pricing?

fiery nacelle Oct 11, 2019, 2:13 PM

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free shipping from Amazon or Newegg is usually limited to the states unfortunately.

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For PC Hardware, no special regional pricing, unlike Steam games

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Usually the factor I use is USD conversion rate + 10% sales tax + 10% again

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that 10% to cover the relative inefficiencies of having so many middlemen in our market distribution here - could be higher though

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kind of ODD that the origin countries of products shipped to the US are much nearer to us

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oh well, logistics inefficiencies here too

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oh at least we do get Intel chips for slightly cheaper (but why not AMD???) than the states

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being that these chips were historically packaged here

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well either here or in Vietnam, Costa Rica, etc

plucky tangle Oct 11, 2019, 9:58 PM

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@fiery nacelle I used a wired g pro, I have smaller hands, so I like it.

naive anchor Oct 12, 2019, 3:34 PM

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question

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we getting to play after alpha 1 or alpha 2?

late sorrel Oct 12, 2019, 3:37 PM

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what do you mean

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I mean, Early Access can come out when they want it to come out

naive anchor Oct 12, 2019, 4:04 PM

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im just asking if anyone knows when early access launches

hexed horizon Oct 12, 2019, 4:04 PM

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No dates.

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It's planned to come out in 2019, as the Steam store page indicates.

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But I'm pretty sure that will change.

cursive cape Oct 12, 2019, 7:10 PM

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I'm pretty sure no one cares but I thought I'd share I'm getting this case in 2 weeks 🙂 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07JD431D5/?coliid=I3EKZKINTJFFAG&colid=2861YFVCCGHB&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

urban gulch Oct 12, 2019, 7:14 PM

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Nice! 😄

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Haven’t seen glass at the top with the sode that often

late sorrel Oct 12, 2019, 7:26 PM

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ooo that’s pretty nice

dense wasp Oct 12, 2019, 8:03 PM

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Neat!

plucky tangle Oct 12, 2019, 11:47 PM

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A glass top case would terrify me. My cats use my case as a spring board on occasion.

short prairie Oct 12, 2019, 11:49 PM

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They don't really make glass ones, more likely it's hard plastic or acrylic

dire scaffold Oct 13, 2019, 12:14 AM

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Anyone know anything about audio scrubbing? My friend has a question and I am not qualified to answer because I have no clue

pallid cedar Oct 13, 2019, 2:29 AM

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mine is 100% tempered glass, and that other thermaltake is tempered glass as well.
this is mine https://www.amazon.ca/Thermaltake-CA-1I7-00F1WN-01-Tempered-Vertical-Computer/dp/B074ZN21M8/ref=sr_1_2?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIiZvvjZiY5QIVjLbICh1gQArZEAAYASAAEgJ33PD_BwE&hvadid=284063380699&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9000014&hvnetw=g&hvpos=1t1&hvqmt=e&hvrand=14415166051774812173&hvtargid=kwd-372023523351&hydadcr=24917_10283276&keywords=thermaltake+view+71+tg+rgb&qid=1570933712&sr=8-2

fleet canopy Oct 13, 2019, 2:30 AM

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Damn expensive

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But looks great

pallid cedar Oct 13, 2019, 2:31 AM

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it's a beast

fleet canopy Oct 13, 2019, 2:32 AM

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Reminds me, I don't remember seeing your build

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About everyone here has lmao

pallid cedar Oct 13, 2019, 2:33 AM

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I guess I can post a pic in the memes section, one min

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link to my complete workstation build in pc part picker https://pcpartpicker.com/b/cKV6Mp

late sorrel Oct 13, 2019, 2:56 AM

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oh nice

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I gotta do one of those myself

cursive cape Oct 13, 2019, 3:38 AM

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Oh yeah I chose it cause I wanna show off the inside haha

pallid cedar Oct 13, 2019, 3:56 AM

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that's what it's good for :p

north bronze Oct 13, 2019, 12:27 PM

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is one gram of thermal paste enough for one application on a ryzen 3700x?

hexed horizon Oct 13, 2019, 12:41 PM

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i'm pretty sure the CPU model doesn't have anything to do with it

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idunno, the size of a pea they say

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is enough? i guess

north bronze Oct 13, 2019, 12:43 PM

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probs

sick reef Oct 13, 2019, 1:19 PM

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It's for threadripper you might just need to use more of that gram, to cover a larger area, if I remember correctly.

north bronze Oct 13, 2019, 1:27 PM

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I'm starting to go crazy over just a PSU issue

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does the corsair rmx 650W Gold have the additional 4pin 12v connector or not?

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i feel like all the answers im finding are vague 👀

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that's a 4+4 right? it should fit into the CPU's power slot + the additional 4 pin 12v connector?

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sick reef Oct 13, 2019, 2:05 PM

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CPU power slot is an 8 pin, or 4 pin?

pallid cedar Oct 13, 2019, 2:36 PM

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@north bronze https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWu2tcm4wL8

north bronze Oct 13, 2019, 2:39 PM

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@sick reef apparently 4+4

sick reef Oct 13, 2019, 2:40 PM

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4+4 is pretty standard.

north bronze Oct 13, 2019, 2:41 PM

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so that psu should be good right?

sick reef Oct 13, 2019, 2:42 PM

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I do not know, if you have an extra 4 pin on the MB, then I dunno with the PSU.

north bronze Oct 13, 2019, 2:43 PM

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aaaah fuck yeah no it doesnt

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8pin + 4 pin

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😦

sick reef Oct 13, 2019, 3:13 PM

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So you do not have more than one CPU connector on that PSU?

north bronze Oct 13, 2019, 3:13 PM

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nah

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and apparently i don't need it anyway 👀

north bronze Oct 13, 2019, 6:11 PM

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eh decided to go for a seasonic gx 650w

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80+ gold rating and it has the additional connectors

late sorrel Oct 13, 2019, 6:24 PM

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nice

north bronze Oct 13, 2019, 6:30 PM

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slight price increase of 2 euros

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how amazing

late sorrel Oct 13, 2019, 6:30 PM

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is it modular?

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or are you saying it's semi

north bronze Oct 13, 2019, 6:30 PM

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fully modular

late sorrel Oct 13, 2019, 6:30 PM

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ooooo

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gud!

north bronze Oct 13, 2019, 6:30 PM

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it's great yeah

dense wasp Oct 13, 2019, 6:45 PM

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Seasonic or evga is what I would go for as well

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So good choice

north bronze Oct 13, 2019, 6:50 PM

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👌

fleet canopy Oct 14, 2019, 3:05 AM

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How exactly do I have to find a pre-overclocked CPU?

fiery nacelle Oct 14, 2019, 5:31 AM

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Pre-tested?

fleet canopy Oct 14, 2019, 5:31 AM

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No like

fiery nacelle Oct 14, 2019, 5:32 AM

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Siliconlottery.com

fleet canopy Oct 14, 2019, 5:32 AM

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I remember that someone said you could order a CPU that has already been over clocked

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So I don't have to do the OC myself

fiery nacelle Oct 14, 2019, 5:36 AM

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Oh yeah they pre test it to rate the max / typical overclock

fleet canopy Oct 14, 2019, 6:03 AM

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w0t

sick reef Oct 14, 2019, 7:10 AM

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Yeah, siliconlottery buys CPU's, delids them, then benchmarks them for what they are capable of, then resells them.

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Meaning, you'd know how much it could overclock.

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But since overclocking is done by the MB with the CPU, you'd have to buy a combo that isn't reset, or have someone do it for you for money

inner lily Oct 14, 2019, 2:31 PM

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#media-and-memes

shy gale Oct 14, 2019, 6:32 PM

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Hey ive been wondering if you have any idea like really any idea what type of computer can run this because of the testing that is coming and my gaming laptop is broken

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I do usually run to LowSpecGamer for help but this is just going to be alpha testing so ...

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basicly my current laptop is somewhere around stone age i mean it can run TF2 pretty well but

fleet canopy Oct 14, 2019, 6:33 PM

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It can run with like

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I remember a GTX 650?

hexed horizon Oct 14, 2019, 6:34 PM

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Check your specs on userbenchmarks.com

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And we'll let you know

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All tho the game will run on toasters

shy gale Oct 14, 2019, 6:34 PM

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fokin hell man i have 940mx which is basicly 200% worse than gtx 660

hexed horizon Oct 14, 2019, 6:34 PM

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940mx?

fleet canopy Oct 14, 2019, 6:34 PM

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Oof

hexed horizon Oct 14, 2019, 6:34 PM

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CPU ?

shy gale Oct 14, 2019, 6:34 PM

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nah laptop gpu

hexed horizon Oct 14, 2019, 6:35 PM

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I get it

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i'm no fool

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what your CPU

shy gale Oct 14, 2019, 6:35 PM

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7200u

hexed horizon Oct 14, 2019, 6:35 PM

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i5 ?

fleet canopy Oct 14, 2019, 6:35 PM

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DR12 support

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Hm

shy gale Oct 14, 2019, 6:35 PM

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yep dual core

hexed horizon Oct 14, 2019, 6:35 PM

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Hmm.

shy gale Oct 14, 2019, 6:35 PM

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not sure i wouldnt really try dx12 on this gpu

hexed horizon Oct 14, 2019, 6:35 PM

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Could possibly run the game.

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We'll see.

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Well, GTFO should be more CPU heavy game, maybe not actually.

shy gale Oct 14, 2019, 6:37 PM

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well everything is left to luck i guess

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i will get a new gaming laptop but that will probably take some time and im worried that the testing phase will be over by then

hexed horizon Oct 14, 2019, 6:38 PM

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I'm sorry, that Á in your name is driving me crazy

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Where are you from

shy gale Oct 14, 2019, 6:38 PM

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á ??? im from slovakia

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oh i get it

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my name

fleet canopy Oct 14, 2019, 6:38 PM

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So

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A friend of mine is trying to connect a USB WiFi adapter

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https://www.amazon.com/Adapter-Wireless-Network-External-OS10-6-10-13/dp/B019SRBUNG

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He said something about needing to download something

hexed horizon Oct 14, 2019, 6:39 PM

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Right. Cuz your name means something in Hungarian so I wanted to know.

shy gale Oct 14, 2019, 6:39 PM

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it means sausage

hexed horizon Oct 14, 2019, 6:39 PM

#

Anyways, uhh... gaming laptops? Yeah, if you move a lot

#

But honestly I wouldn't recommend a designated gaming laptop

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I mean, with desktops you are always better.

dusty pumice Oct 14, 2019, 6:40 PM

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Buys laptop 2 years later can heat marshmallows with it

shy gale Oct 14, 2019, 6:40 PM

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i know but subjectively i like laptops more and i would have to buy a monitor

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and keyboard as im thinking about it not a bad idea

hexed horizon Oct 14, 2019, 6:41 PM

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Yes, technically you would get 6 more inch on your screen that way

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Well, I don't know how large the laptop screens are, especially for a gaming laptop

shy gale Oct 14, 2019, 6:41 PM

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15´6

fleet canopy Oct 14, 2019, 6:41 PM

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Probably like 15"

hexed horizon Oct 14, 2019, 6:41 PM

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Then 9 inches more

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The average 1080p display is at 24", IMO

fleet canopy Oct 14, 2019, 6:42 PM

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Mhm

hexed horizon Oct 14, 2019, 6:42 PM

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Well, you decide.

shy gale Oct 14, 2019, 6:42 PM

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never really had that big of a screen on my hands im used to the 15inch

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ehh no homo

hexed horizon Oct 14, 2019, 6:43 PM

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I used to play on a laptop for a bit

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I mean I have an older monitor that's 19", and it's honestly nice. I used a 24" for a bit, not sure I probably would get used to it, but I gave it to my bro, because of another reason.

shy gale Oct 14, 2019, 6:44 PM

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well before i bought the gaming laptop i did my research so it wouldnt overheat however

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it arrived with a faulty gpu ...

hexed horizon Oct 14, 2019, 6:44 PM

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ahh shit

#

got a refund?

#

warranty?

shy gale Oct 14, 2019, 6:44 PM

#

no ...

hexed horizon Oct 14, 2019, 6:44 PM

#

What

shy gale Oct 14, 2019, 6:44 PM

#

they denied it

hexed horizon Oct 14, 2019, 6:44 PM

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Why not?

fleet canopy Oct 14, 2019, 6:45 PM

#

Big F

hexed horizon Oct 14, 2019, 6:45 PM

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Where'd you buy it

shy gale Oct 14, 2019, 6:45 PM

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datart

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never buying anything above 100e in there

hexed horizon Oct 14, 2019, 6:45 PM

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But when did you notice that it's faulty?

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And why would they deny it

shy gale Oct 14, 2019, 6:46 PM

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i noticed it about 1 month in because i thought it was normal to shut of games in the middle of playing it the first hour

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and then needing to restart it to work properly again

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also it disconected my gpu when that happened

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and i couldnt update my drivers ...

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idk money things i would say

hexed horizon Oct 14, 2019, 6:47 PM

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how much was it?

shy gale Oct 14, 2019, 6:47 PM

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they arent really big on refunding this type of stuff it was 1050e

hexed horizon Oct 14, 2019, 6:47 PM

#

in €

shy gale Oct 14, 2019, 6:47 PM

#

yep

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but there is a law

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that if they dont send a letter in 30 days about this

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they will have to refund

hexed horizon Oct 14, 2019, 6:48 PM

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Wait, you didn't have warranty?

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Any laptop comes with at least 2 years

shy gale Oct 14, 2019, 6:48 PM

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i did but they just reseted the software to factory and its done

hexed horizon Oct 14, 2019, 6:49 PM

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What? That's all?

shy gale Oct 14, 2019, 6:49 PM

#

they sayed nothing was wrong with it but many people i asked told me it was actually faulty

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well if i want more info i would have to get the laptop back

hexed horizon Oct 14, 2019, 6:49 PM

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Where is it?

shy gale Oct 14, 2019, 6:50 PM

#

its in the shop for about a month now in 2 days they will have to refund it

hexed horizon Oct 14, 2019, 6:50 PM

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Oh, so hope is not all lost?

#

That's relieving.

shy gale Oct 14, 2019, 6:50 PM

#

i know alredy got another one on the watch much cheaper

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860e with only 8gb ram tho

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but otherwise it should be the same

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1060 8300-H

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i5 8300-H

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oh also on this laptop ive been having problems with discord that it will only transfer my voice for a limited time and then i have to rejoin the channel

plucky tangle Oct 15, 2019, 6:30 AM

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Errrrr

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Sounds like an issue with discord not the pc. If its working for even a little, it just sounds like a software thing

shy gale Oct 15, 2019, 2:09 PM

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OH BOI

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my laptop is back and the gpu is working perfectly fine

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after only software reset ...

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so they fucked it up so bad i didnt want to believe it was only software problem but it was, good

fiery nacelle Oct 15, 2019, 3:07 PM

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hopefully it's a permanent fix

chrome chasm Oct 15, 2019, 4:52 PM

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https://www.speedtest.net/result/8676573826.png

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Using wireless

urban gulch Oct 15, 2019, 6:49 PM

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Oh you got new internet huh

late sorrel Oct 15, 2019, 6:50 PM

#

I have 80down 5 up

urban gulch Oct 15, 2019, 6:51 PM

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500/50 for me

chrome chasm Oct 15, 2019, 7:46 PM

#

I'm supposed to have 1000/1000. But even with the cable plug-in I don't reach it.

#

this is wired
https://www.speedtest.net/result/8677048309.png

late sorrel Oct 15, 2019, 7:55 PM

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that's literally like 15 times faster than mine

chrome chasm Oct 15, 2019, 7:55 PM

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When fiber finally reach your door it will look similar.

gentle lion Oct 15, 2019, 7:57 PM

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holy shit

#

im lucky if i can reach 15/10

plucky tangle Oct 15, 2019, 9:27 PM

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I have a 100/100 line. Literally no real need to have more unless you do design work

void perch Oct 15, 2019, 10:47 PM

#

Anyone have recommendations for a gaming mouse for someone with sweaty hands?

late sorrel Oct 15, 2019, 10:50 PM

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I can’t recommend a specific mouse, but I’ve found that a palm grip based mouse is much easier to use

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I have cold and clammy hands myself, but I don’t have any issues as long as I can use my whole hand to hold/push down the mouse

void perch Oct 15, 2019, 10:51 PM

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which model do you have?

late sorrel Oct 15, 2019, 10:52 PM

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I personally have an M65 Pro, but I can’t tell you if it’s performance in regards to other mice

#

With the mice I have around me at the moment, I can tell you I find that as long as it fits my hand, I have no issues with it

#

also, the M65 doesn’t have like rubber on it, so it is a bit slippy

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also, I won’t reccomend it because it’s too small for my hands and I find myself gripping it harder which does tire it out

void perch Oct 15, 2019, 10:55 PM

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hmm, thanks.

late sorrel Oct 15, 2019, 10:56 PM

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I can tell you what to look for, just don’t have it myself G_CowboySad

fleet canopy Oct 15, 2019, 10:57 PM

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I used to have roccat tyon, is very nice but idk about sweat hand

#

Might work for you though

void perch Oct 15, 2019, 10:57 PM

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haha i have a roccat kone and hate it

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it's also double clicking when I single click (randomly) which is annoying as hell

fleet canopy Oct 15, 2019, 10:58 PM

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Oof

late sorrel Oct 15, 2019, 10:58 PM

#

ono

fleet canopy Oct 15, 2019, 10:58 PM

#

I never had that problem myself

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Except the middle mouse button

#

Holy shit it was annoying

void perch Oct 15, 2019, 10:59 PM

#

I'm sure they are good mice, just a bad experience for me, so would rather find a diff brand.

fleet canopy Oct 15, 2019, 10:59 PM

#

It was a different mice though I believe

late sorrel Oct 15, 2019, 10:59 PM

#

I've never had an issue with mice with a sweatier hand, my issues are more of gripping the mouse and not being too small to get my whole hand around it

#

that's my last 2c

fleet canopy Oct 15, 2019, 10:59 PM

#

Corsair probably has good mice

late sorrel Oct 15, 2019, 10:59 PM

#

Corsair has a good manufactoring stuff in my opinion

dusty pumice Oct 15, 2019, 10:59 PM

#

https://www.gamergoo.com/

#

Mixer is heavily invested into it

late sorrel Oct 15, 2019, 10:59 PM

#

OH THAT

fleet canopy Oct 15, 2019, 11:00 PM

#

Corsair is best for peripahekn however it spell

late sorrel Oct 15, 2019, 11:00 PM

#

I've got some friends who have corsair keyboards/mice and they've not had any issues

#

I bought a K55 and the rgb has stopped working

fleet canopy Oct 15, 2019, 11:00 PM

#

L

late sorrel Oct 15, 2019, 11:00 PM

#

but then again, I've not like unplugged it and or fac resetted it

#

mouse is still going great though

fleet canopy Oct 15, 2019, 11:00 PM

#

Oof

#

That’s pretty neat

late sorrel Oct 15, 2019, 11:01 PM

#

just wish I didn't grip it so hard

#

also I've become reliant on the sniper button on the side

#

I personally wish it had a free-wheel function on the scroll though

#

I came from a first gen MX Master, so it was very weird to get used to

fleet canopy Oct 15, 2019, 11:03 PM

#

The sniper button on left side I never really did understand

#

Never used it though

late sorrel Oct 15, 2019, 11:04 PM

#

I became reliant on it

#

and now whenever I use other mice I can't use them

fleet canopy Oct 15, 2019, 11:04 PM

#

I just use two buttons on mice

late sorrel Oct 15, 2019, 11:04 PM

#

smh you don't use the forward/backward buttons??

fleet canopy Oct 15, 2019, 11:04 PM

#

Extra is mainly good for browsers

late sorrel Oct 15, 2019, 11:05 PM

#

they are really useful if you know how to use them

#

for switching weapons and stuff

#

you gotta learn it though

#

which is a pain

fleet canopy Oct 15, 2019, 11:05 PM

#

I use 123 for switching weapons

late sorrel Oct 15, 2019, 11:05 PM

#

I find that taking my hands off of the movement keys disrupted my gameplay

fleet canopy Oct 15, 2019, 11:05 PM

#

Ring and index finger does it well

#

I mean, it does kind of do

#

But mainly it’s a great weapon switch into

late sorrel Oct 15, 2019, 11:06 PM

#

anyway I kinda wanna get a new mouse now

fleet canopy Oct 15, 2019, 11:06 PM

#

Imo

late sorrel Oct 15, 2019, 11:06 PM

#

yee

fleet canopy Oct 15, 2019, 11:06 PM

#

I need new keyboard

#

And a mousepad with wrist rest

#

Headphone as well and a mic ;w;

#

Headphone I’m just gonna give up on fixing

#

Not as loud as it used to be

late sorrel Oct 15, 2019, 11:08 PM

#

oof

#

that's actually pretty touch

#

tough*

fleet canopy Oct 15, 2019, 11:10 PM

#

My keyboard is missing one key, which is fine

#

It’s not very important anyways

#

Oh yeah

#

The damn numpad is useless as well

#

And it’s one dirty as hell keyboard

#

Like

#

0 num doesn’t work

void perch Oct 15, 2019, 11:15 PM

#

Decided to go with this guy, let's see how it handles.

https://www.pcgamingrace.com/products/glorious-model-o-minus-matte-black

late sorrel Oct 15, 2019, 11:17 PM

#

that looks really nice

#

do tell how it goes

#

I need to get a new one anyway, I can't be giving myself carpal tunnel // exhausting my hand from gripping so hard // it being too heavy

void perch Oct 15, 2019, 11:18 PM

#

remind me in a week, will let you know

patent kite Oct 15, 2019, 11:22 PM

#

mouse with pockets for cookie crumbs? 🙃

fleet canopy Oct 15, 2019, 11:24 PM

#

No

#

But they do have what’s supposed a ‘water-proof’ keyboard or something

#

In general I mean like any food or drink gets spilled

late sorrel Oct 15, 2019, 11:24 PM

#

oh god I should have removed the weights in this long ago holy shit

#

it's so much lighter

fleet canopy Oct 15, 2019, 11:25 PM

#

Lmao

#

That reminds me

#

It felt so weird using my brother’s girlfriend’s DPI mouse preferences and it was so damn weird trying to do anything

late sorrel Oct 15, 2019, 11:27 PM

#

xd

fleet canopy Oct 15, 2019, 11:27 PM

#

And when my brother tried to play siege once on my.DPI he was like ‘why do you have it this much?’

#

Siege DPI is like

late sorrel Oct 15, 2019, 11:27 PM

#

moooooood

fleet canopy Oct 15, 2019, 11:27 PM

#

Kind of wild

late sorrel Oct 15, 2019, 11:27 PM

#

holy shit what a mood

#

I use like 2k usually

fleet canopy Oct 15, 2019, 11:27 PM

#

My mouse DPI is set to 1000 or 1500

#

Siege is at like

#

factory set dpi

#

And when I have to get my grip right

#

Oh boy

late sorrel Oct 15, 2019, 11:28 PM

#

oh lmao I found why my keyboard had no lighting on

fleet canopy Oct 15, 2019, 11:29 PM

#

No download the keyboard menu setting or turned off the light?

#

My keyboard doesn’t have RGB, just white

#

Lol

#

I set it to a quite dim light, if I take a picture though, it looks like the sun

late sorrel Oct 15, 2019, 11:34 PM

#

I turned the brightness down

fleet canopy Oct 15, 2019, 11:34 PM

#

Very nice

#

So I said I was gonna get a 5700

#

With checking the prices

#

5700 is 380

#

Pretty close to XT 410$

late sorrel Oct 15, 2019, 11:38 PM

#

mm?

#

make sure you get the sapphire nitro one

fleet canopy Oct 15, 2019, 11:38 PM

#

I

#

Well I will

late sorrel Oct 15, 2019, 11:38 PM

#

it's the best on the market for a 5700XT rn

fleet canopy Oct 15, 2019, 11:38 PM

#

Since you’ve said it’s been good in durability

late sorrel Oct 15, 2019, 11:39 PM

#

for cooling at least

#

https://pcper.com/2019/09/sapphire-nitro-radeon-rx-5700-xt-review/

#

📎 unknown.png

fleet canopy Oct 15, 2019, 11:41 PM

#

Kek

late sorrel Oct 15, 2019, 11:42 PM

#

📎 unknown.png

#

^ pcworld

fleet canopy Oct 15, 2019, 11:42 PM

#

Hah

#

I’ll check the pricing, it’s probably 410$ as well

late sorrel Oct 15, 2019, 11:42 PM

#

it's 450

#

or 445

#

First, Radeon graphics cards don’t support real-time ray tracing like GeForce RTX 20-series GPUs offer—but in return, they offer you more traditional gaming performance for your money. The Nitro+ routinely outperforms the GeForce RTX 2060 by double-digit percentages. And while ray tracing is picking up steam and looks incredibly impressive in the right games, only a small handful of titles support the cutting-edge lighting technology at this point. Second, the Nitro+ is a big card, measuring a full foot long and a bit over two slots deep. That’s necessary for a card this powerful to run so cool and quiet though.

#

^ the "only drawbacks" paragraph

fleet canopy Oct 15, 2019, 11:43 PM

#

Well

late sorrel Oct 15, 2019, 11:43 PM

#

It's still the "flagship" for the 5700XT's

fleet canopy Oct 15, 2019, 11:44 PM

#

I had the sapphire nitro pulse on list lmao

#

Maybe there wasn’t a nitro+ when I first added

late sorrel Oct 15, 2019, 11:44 PM

#

440usd

fleet canopy Oct 15, 2019, 11:44 PM

#

Might be less

#

I checked amazon and uhhh

#

Fugawugaluga the egg online store thin

#

Newegg

#

I saw most fan cooled XT for 410-425$

late sorrel Oct 15, 2019, 11:45 PM

#

egg store has it at $469.99

fleet canopy Oct 15, 2019, 11:45 PM

#

Newegg

#

Newegg sucked ass at price

late sorrel Oct 15, 2019, 11:45 PM

#

yeah it does

fleet canopy Oct 15, 2019, 11:46 PM

#

Fucking shit is way more expensive idfk why

late sorrel Oct 15, 2019, 11:46 PM

#

that's like 30usd over MSRP

fleet canopy Oct 15, 2019, 11:47 PM

#

Despite those prices, both shopping carts on amazon and Newegg was at 1470-1480$ and Newegg was 3$ less pricy I think

#

Some parts I had to get as close as I could to what I had picked

#

Lowest price found on pcpartpicker for nitro+ was 467.XX$

#

And it was a Store I’ve not heard of

late sorrel Oct 15, 2019, 11:51 PM

#

what's the name?

fleet canopy Oct 15, 2019, 11:51 PM

#

Actually no

#

Actually no

#

15$ plus for shipping

late sorrel Oct 15, 2019, 11:52 PM

#

juasdhasdasdasd bullshit

fleet canopy Oct 15, 2019, 11:52 PM

#

Actual price is 449.99$

late sorrel Oct 15, 2019, 11:52 PM

#

oh

fleet canopy Oct 15, 2019, 11:52 PM

#

Shipping it is 15$ plus

late sorrel Oct 15, 2019, 11:52 PM

#

almost might as well go buy a 2070 at that pric

#

e

#

(then again, you are getting higher performance)

fleet canopy Oct 15, 2019, 11:52 PM

#

Amazon is basically Fuck having people pay for shipping!

#

5700 XT is getting better than 2070S

#

Checked userbenchmarks, it’s all there

late sorrel Oct 15, 2019, 11:53 PM

#

not in certain games though

#

although the nitro+ does

fleet canopy Oct 15, 2019, 11:54 PM

#

I mean, sure

#

The games are having focus to one kind of company

#

But like

#

It wouldn’t matter

#

It’s still a fuckton better than a 1060 3GB lmao

late sorrel Oct 15, 2019, 11:55 PM

#

true

#

tbh, I would reccomend getting a 2070 if you're spending the same as a 2070S

#

oh wait

#

wtf am I on

#

2070Supers are like 500+

fleet canopy Oct 15, 2019, 11:57 PM

#

I haven’t seen a 2070S priced at 450$ good AMD sir

#

And 2070 is like

#

Isn’t that more weaker

late sorrel Oct 15, 2019, 11:57 PM

#

I'm gunna shut up now

fleet canopy Oct 15, 2019, 11:58 PM

#

Hah

late sorrel Oct 15, 2019, 11:58 PM

#

what you've got right there is the best for what you're spending

fleet canopy Oct 15, 2019, 11:58 PM

#

I also never really understood how to get pre OC’d 3600 yet as well

late sorrel Oct 15, 2019, 11:58 PM

#

you can't?

#

That's like

#

no

#

stop

#

never say that again

fleet canopy Oct 15, 2019, 11:59 PM

#

lol I never did and couldn’t figure out overclocking

late sorrel Oct 15, 2019, 11:59 PM

#

you can't get a cpu pre overclocked

fleet canopy Oct 15, 2019, 11:59 PM

#

Well you guys are here sooo

#

I always thought you could GWmythicalThonkCool

late sorrel Oct 16, 2019, 12:00 AM

#

your bios controls the speed of the chip usually

fleet canopy Oct 16, 2019, 12:00 AM

#

And I can have help with overclocking from you people GWmiyanoSip

late sorrel Oct 16, 2019, 12:00 AM

#

yeah I gotta do my 2600

#

probably

#

it doesn't matter

#

but yeah

fleet canopy Oct 16, 2019, 12:01 AM

#

Depends if your GPU is powerful

#

Just leave it at that if you got like

#

A 570 or 580 Kek

late sorrel Oct 16, 2019, 12:01 AM

#

yeha

#

which I do

#

and any upgrades will be with a different CPU

#

Kinda hoping to get an x570 mobo next time around

#

for that spicy PCI-e 4

fleet canopy Oct 16, 2019, 12:02 AM

#

You might

late sorrel Oct 16, 2019, 12:02 AM

#

or is it 5

fleet canopy Oct 16, 2019, 12:02 AM

#

I think 4

#

And I’m sure mobo prices will decrease eventually

late sorrel Oct 16, 2019, 12:02 AM

#

anyway, I'd be getting the Nitro+ 5700XT so I don't think my 2600 would like me so much

#

anyway

#

I'll just make it a server

fleet canopy Oct 16, 2019, 12:03 AM

#

Yeah

#

Also most PSU will be able to connect to all of PC parts, correct?

#

I just wanna make sure

late sorrel Oct 16, 2019, 12:05 AM

#

yeah

#

just make sure you get a high enough wattage and the right cables if you go modular

fleet canopy Oct 16, 2019, 12:05 AM

#

650 PSU on me Kek

late sorrel Oct 16, 2019, 12:05 AM

#

that should be fine tbh

#

if you really want a new one

fleet canopy Oct 16, 2019, 12:05 AM

#

And not modular, impossible to rid of cables unless cut

late sorrel Oct 16, 2019, 12:05 AM

#

you can get a 750

#

oof

fleet canopy Oct 16, 2019, 12:06 AM

#

Power watt is 375w ish

#

Uh no

#

It’s actually 450 ish

late sorrel Oct 16, 2019, 12:07 AM

#

oh

#

no

#

then

#

you gotta get a 650 or higher

fleet canopy Oct 16, 2019, 12:10 AM

#

I have 650

#

G3 or G2

#

I’d just go for a new one tbh cause

#

The wiring job is so shit I don’t think it’s so good anymore :)

plucky tangle Oct 16, 2019, 1:30 AM

#

With a power supply, more is better. You dont want to be on the line or even close.

fleet canopy Oct 16, 2019, 1:38 AM

#

I know

#

It’s just that I thought I could probably reuse my G2-3 650W PSU

#

But I’ll probably need a new one since overclock probably takes more power and too close for me

#

Rather it’d be 300 or more

bronze cloak Oct 16, 2019, 1:46 AM

#

650 is plenty for most stuff these days, if you want to be safe you can go up to a 750. There’s nothing wrong with being “near the line” so long as you aren’t over it. Not to mention the G2 and G3 are outstanding PSUs.

#

The worst you’ll see is some lost efficiency because PSUs are most efficient at 50-70% usage

#

You could theoretically run a 3900X and 2080 ti system on a 650W unit, and the performance of both is mainly dictated by cooling. Spikes above the rated wattage are also acceptable to a certain degree.

fleet canopy Oct 16, 2019, 2:12 AM

#

I mean, that’s true

#

I might be fine but for me, I’d be anxious how it handles when it’s pretty below 300W of Max usage

#

After all, they aren’t too expensive

plucky tangle Oct 16, 2019, 3:40 AM

#

If you are even close you should just buy a higher psu. Also alot depends on the rating obviously, because a 650 plat or gold will do better then a 750 silver or bronze. But if you are close to max threshold, that can be really bad for your system. Even though most rating companies compensate by saying things require a little bit more for some headway.

copper zealot Oct 16, 2019, 3:47 AM

#

Ok gais my build is ready for alpha 3900x 32gb ram 1080ti on MSI x570 with SSD's for both OS and Storage

#

Let the games begin!

fleet canopy Oct 16, 2019, 4:03 AM

#

It’s a gold GW+ 650W G3 PSU

#

And I’ll assume you have the 3900X and 32 GB for tech work

copper zealot Oct 16, 2019, 4:09 AM

#

Yup, i am a systems engineer/animal rescue/ other

#

It is for virtualization of environments, video editing, and NVR for cameras for our animals

sick reef Oct 16, 2019, 4:10 AM

#

When it comes to principles behind power supply units, constantly utilizing more than 80% of total capacity with decrease capacity and age it early.

#

But that's also under the pretense "constantly".

copper zealot Oct 16, 2019, 4:11 AM

#

actually i'm running a 3900x and 1080ti on 750 or 800 watt PSU gold if i remember right, but the 650 would drag with multiple hard drives and other peripherals which is why you want to get a bit higher

#

Going Bronze+ instead of Gold for the power supply may be the better option and price for the build

#

While it won't stay there ALL the time, it will handle the spiking better than and underpowered PSU if it is taking hits

#

Under-volting can cause just as much damage in some occasions than over-volting if the piece of equipment is going in and out (blue screens+)

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If you did go 650 watt it would need to be a gold + rated and it may occasionally have issues with spiking literally blue moons at that

sick reef Oct 16, 2019, 4:15 AM

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Best option is slightly oversized wattage and gold/more than gold rating

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"Saving money" on PSU usually means that when anything bad happens, everything bad happens.

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The lower the rating, the cheaper parts, the more variance in power output, as in it evens out spikes less.

copper zealot Oct 16, 2019, 4:29 AM

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All in all i think the i486 with the turbo button would be the best way to go. You could also go with the old school AMD processor that you could scratch the chip with a pencil led and essentially "overclock" it. Don't mind the boards you could solder if you had the utensils. Then all you would need is a Radeon Pro and 350w bronze. For days

sick reef Oct 16, 2019, 4:35 AM

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I do have a PCIe Pentium 2 and/or 3. Unsure if those can be made to work, though.

north bronze Oct 16, 2019, 8:52 AM

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i'm going for this PSU https://www.amazon.fr/dp/B077J9QTDR?tag=pcp09-21&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

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650W, fully modular, Gold

bronze cloak Oct 16, 2019, 12:10 PM

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@plucky tangle would you please explain how it would be bad for the system? If a PSU is rated for 650W, even if your system peaks at 660W for a moment it’s not going to damage anything. And if it’s pulling below the rating... well, that’s what it’s rated for.

urban gulch Oct 16, 2019, 12:14 PM

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If you got a PSU and it's above it's max. consumption, then the PC shuts off 🙂

.. or a blue screen, depends.

bronze cloak Oct 16, 2019, 12:18 PM

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PSUs have over current protection, yeah, but that’s designed for sustained power draw in most cases. I’m not saying you should build a system with an inadequate PSU, but 650 is technically adequate for most consumer applications. It’s only once you get into the really high end with lots of drives that it becomes and undeniable issue.

fiery nacelle Oct 16, 2019, 12:20 PM

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get higher power supply than calculated via summation of power consumption of each part to account for transient spikes in power demands

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good PSUs should be able to sustain short term loads slightly higher than their rated wattage

fleet canopy Oct 16, 2019, 12:23 PM

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Like how much higher?

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About 10~?

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Well I’m gonna be going

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Bai

fiery nacelle Oct 16, 2019, 12:28 PM

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OPP (Over Power Protection)

The over-power protection (OPP) kicks in when the power we pull from a PSU exceeds its maximum rated capacity. Usually, the manufacturers give a little room for overpowering the PSU, so the OPP threshold is set to 50 to 100W (in some cases even more) above the maximum rated wattage of the PSU. In single +12V rail PSUs, where OCP is meaningless in most cases, OPP takes over its role and shuts down the PSU in case the +12V rail is overloaded.

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Taken from: https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/power-supplies-101,4193-21.html

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So if one has an GTX 1070 (typically rated at 150W TDP) paired with an i7 6700 (non-K) rated at 65W TDP, add-in an nvme SSD, budget motherboard, and 2 sticks of 8GB DDR4-2666...

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We can get away with sticking in a PSU rated at say 300 watts?

urban gulch Oct 16, 2019, 12:39 PM

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Mhmm.

fiery nacelle Oct 16, 2019, 12:39 PM

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It might seem so

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Adding up 150W + 65W would come up to 215W, far less than 300W, even adding in the SSD, mobo and RAM would not hit say 250W average power consumption

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But look again at #media-and-memes

urban gulch Oct 16, 2019, 12:40 PM

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Yeah, i saw.

fiery nacelle Oct 16, 2019, 12:40 PM

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📎 dekimC9DNDUrWvZsQS8or8-650-80.png

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📎 9qAyffbXVuhvGCDGVbQqXK-650-80.png

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📎 ty9TniVgwydvyxnaMMzNUK-650-80.png

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Kinda shocked me out off my own chair when I found out

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Whilst the averaged power consumption of the individual card, yes kinda matches the TDP at 150W for the FE edition and 180W for the MSI Gaming X edition...

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Take a look at those spikes

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The GTX 1070 FE can spike above 200 watts, whilst the MSI Gaming X edition can touch 300W power spikes

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far above the typical GTX 1070 TDP rating of 150 watts

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Perhaps this explains why AIB partners put somewhat seemingly ridiculous amounts of PCI-E power supply inputs on their cards, up to 2x8 pin connectors (to supply 2 x 150W = 300W) for innocuous mid-ranged cards that are say advertised with TDPs of 200W which should on paper be satisfied by a single 8 pin PCI-e power connector + PCIe slot (150W + 75W = 225W)

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So having issues with game / graphics / framerate delivery stability? crashes? glitches?

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might want to look again

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Give plenty of margins for power supply, especially when calculating in AIB-version of modern GPUs (i.e. factory overclocked)
Pay attention to the number of PCIe power connectors on the card - gives you an indication of how much power delivery the AIB vendor expects for rock solid stability / performance
Use separate PCIe power cables for each PCIe power connector, not two branches from the same cable - yes, most modern PSUs are single railed however it's not the rail overload that we are concerned about but rather the total current drawn by a single set of PCI-e power cables for TWO 8-pin connectors
.

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Having said that, I think most enthusiast level PCs or less can be satisfactorily catered for by a good quality PSU of 600 watts rating.

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probably even a system with a Ryzen 9 3900x and AIB RX 5700XT

gritty venture Oct 16, 2019, 4:03 PM

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Got any issue and ill have to write a bit separated, because it might shut down by the time im down writing lol

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Was playing a game with a friend earlier, and suddenly the screens blinked and i couldnt get a picture back. Sound was kind of okay, music of the game was playing but nothing else. I could hear my friend on discord

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Every time i tried to run a game, it would just blink and not work. PC stays turned on.

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I swapped to another GPU, but the problem is the same, however i could run a game of CS bots when i switched to windowed mode. Other games would black screen in menus, and last crash happened on desktop. Any ideas?

gritty venture Oct 16, 2019, 4:27 PM

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sick reef Oct 16, 2019, 5:38 PM

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Try uninstalling your drivers fully and reinstalling them.

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When it comes to power supplies, I am not one for minimal margin. If you want the least amount of issues, you don't make them matching, or as close, especially to things like TDP that mean very little, unless you aim to run it all with stock settings, no turbo/boost, and aftermarket cooler.

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TDP isn't wattage, and it only resembles the wattage in the very specific setup they made for the specific CPU.
And for the calculation of power draw, it is dependent on the settings of the CPU, the efficiency of the heat spreader, and the accumilative heat, and the effect that has on the CPU.

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Also, if that is true about power pins, then it's 12V150W, which is ~12A per socket, and probably not fully unreasonable.

north bronze Oct 16, 2019, 5:50 PM

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one step closer to getting my complete build

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got the case, psu's coming, and i'll probs grab the ram next

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that way I can buy everything except the GPU next month (no biggie, I'll use my 1060 3GB and wait for another month to get the 5700XT)

sick reef Oct 16, 2019, 5:51 PM

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Make sure to check for deals on GPUs. They pop up a little bit everywhere sometimes.

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Managed to buy a lot of my stuff pretty cheap due to it.

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As in, deals on electronics, or just specific stores with very low prices.

north bronze Oct 16, 2019, 5:53 PM

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Amazon had the 3900X for its msrp of 450E this morning. Had to go to work, but once I finished I was ready to jump on it since it mostly sells for 650-700E because of the shortage

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aaaand it was gone

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guess I'll stick to the 3700X I planned for 😦

sick reef Oct 16, 2019, 5:54 PM

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Got my antec PSU for 240€ something, plat, 1300W, grossly oversized now that I'm not running dual OC 1080 Ti, but not expensive for such high capacity.

north bronze Oct 16, 2019, 5:55 PM

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was gonna ask why you went overkill but then I saw dual 1080 TI

sick reef Oct 16, 2019, 5:57 PM

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Have you looked at other amazon sites than amazon.fr and see if they ship to france?

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Well, if I am to run my Dual 1080 Ti overclocked as much as I can, my 7940X at maybe 4.9GHz all cores, and with single core boost, and a few hard drives, and a bit more, it'd pull a lot.

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I know I found my antec in some weird store in the UK that shipped here, as an example. Through pricerunner.

north bronze Oct 16, 2019, 6:47 PM

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nice

late sorrel Oct 16, 2019, 7:24 PM

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📎 image1.jpg 📎 image3.jpg 📎 image0.jpg 📎 image2.jpg

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ripped apart my old HD5670

north bronze Oct 16, 2019, 7:43 PM

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Aight thinking about something, would this be a good idea?

- RX 5700XT -> RX 580
- Ryzen 7 3700X -> Ryzen 9 3900X/3950X

I'll be mainly using my build for game development on UE4 and some gaming too. Game dev mostly on the programming side (more cores, less of me eating junk food while watching VS2019 compile for ages)

late sorrel Oct 16, 2019, 7:44 PM

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depends if you’re rendering something GPU based vs cpu based

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what do you do for your game dev stuff?

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modeling?

north bronze Oct 16, 2019, 7:44 PM

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I'm on the programming side

late sorrel Oct 16, 2019, 7:45 PM

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hmm

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then yes, you’ll probably gain more from having a 3900X/3950X

fiery nacelle Oct 16, 2019, 10:37 PM

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https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/diqrq3/stuttering_fix_part_2/

magic anvil Oct 17, 2019, 6:38 PM

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Anyone have a fix for my issue?

I recently bought an MSI RX 5700 XT ( Reference) and every now and then my monitor just goes black and comes back. However sometimes it just goes completely black and I'm forced to shutdown my PC via the button which I hate doing. I have found a slight fix in which I'm forced to drop the monitors frequency from 144Hz to 60Hz and so it's stable. This defeats the purpose of having this monitor though. I have tried re-installing drivers, even to the point of sacrifing one of my SSDs as a secondary boot to see if a fresh install of windows would help, but even so doing this I'm still getting the same issue.

late sorrel Oct 17, 2019, 6:39 PM

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how are the temps?

chrome chasm Oct 17, 2019, 6:39 PM

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Try to restart your graphic drivers too.

magic anvil Oct 17, 2019, 6:39 PM

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T-junc seems to be on the cooler side during heavy gaming sessions

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i heard the T-junc seems to be one of the issues

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it's currently like this while play destiny 2
https://gyazo.com/8f3c8bc1162c319a9e0b73fd50dc7d31

late sorrel Oct 17, 2019, 6:52 PM

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that’s hot

gritty venture Oct 17, 2019, 6:53 PM

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Check reliability monitor

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What does it say?

magic anvil Oct 17, 2019, 7:10 PM

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im not sure what this error codes mean
https://gyazo.com/9340f0072721ac344e41003b56d8a6cb
https://gyazo.com/77316bdd10e9423731002d65675fb920
https://gyazo.com/cc33d1826210509d6d45d094eb008f34

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the last issue was 3 days ago and that's when I dropped my monitor's frequency down to 60Hz

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and it's been stable since

gritty venture Oct 17, 2019, 7:14 PM

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oh boy

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let me tell you

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ive been struggling all day and yesterday with my black screens of death

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and that comes up with livekernel

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You happen to run nvidia with recent drivers?

pallid cedar Oct 17, 2019, 7:23 PM

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your graphics card is running too hard

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temps are too high, and black/flashing screen typically means it is struggling to render the image

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do you notice artifacting during gameplay as well? small white flickers?

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85 degrees is the max temps for typical gpus

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I'm gaming right now on Insurgency Sandstorm at full settings on an RTX 2060 and my temp is only 52 degrees

late sorrel Oct 17, 2019, 7:26 PM

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I mean, a reference MSI 5700XT doesn’t have a good cooler

pallid cedar Oct 17, 2019, 7:26 PM

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and if the gpu is struggling, that makes sense why it can't run 144Hz stable

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reference blower coolers are fine, if you have adequate case cooling

late sorrel Oct 17, 2019, 7:27 PM

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typically, yes

pallid cedar Oct 17, 2019, 7:27 PM

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unless their case is choking airlfow, there is no reason why Destiny will put the temps at max

gritty venture Oct 17, 2019, 7:29 PM

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Well im having a similar problem

pallid cedar Oct 17, 2019, 7:29 PM

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either the card is boosting for some reason, or it's faulty

gritty venture Oct 17, 2019, 7:30 PM

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For me the problem started out of nowhere, just sudden blackscreen

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this reinstall i managed to run the game for 3-4 minutes before blackscreen again. Second time i didnt even reach the character select screen

pallid cedar Oct 17, 2019, 7:30 PM

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is your cpu overclocked?

gritty venture Oct 17, 2019, 7:31 PM

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No overclockings, fresh windows install multiple times, tested several GPUs

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different slots, RAM, HDD/SSD

pallid cedar Oct 17, 2019, 7:31 PM

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what cpu?

gritty venture Oct 17, 2019, 7:31 PM

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4690k

pallid cedar Oct 17, 2019, 7:31 PM

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if your cpu isn't stable, it'll crash or black screen

gritty venture Oct 17, 2019, 7:31 PM

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Its stable, i ran stress test on it and its fine

pallid cedar Oct 17, 2019, 7:32 PM

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it's an old, discontinued processor

gritty venture Oct 17, 2019, 7:32 PM

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The weird thing is that the system ran fine for a little bit while a friend was over to look at the problem, and an AMD gpu with catalyst did seem to work fine

pallid cedar Oct 17, 2019, 7:32 PM

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might have compatibility issues

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how long was th3e stress test?

gritty venture Oct 17, 2019, 7:32 PM

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And reinstalling the GTX afterwards worked fine, but for minutes before it started BSOD again

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4-5 minutes

pallid cedar Oct 17, 2019, 7:33 PM

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a "stable" check for stress test is the average game session length.
If you game for several hours, test for several hours

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at min, 10 min test with AIDA64

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def sounds like your issue is CPU related.

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your cpu is a ddr3 based desktop cpu, kinda obsolete

gritty venture Oct 17, 2019, 7:35 PM

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Hmm i was told to not run it for long as it was 100%

pallid cedar Oct 17, 2019, 7:35 PM

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by who? haha, that's silly

sick reef Oct 17, 2019, 7:35 PM

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Adequate case cooling for your average consumer PC PepeLaff

pallid cedar Oct 17, 2019, 7:35 PM

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you only stop a stress test after you reached your time mark, or unless the temps are getting too out of hand before it automatically shuts off

gritty venture Oct 17, 2019, 7:35 PM

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Its just really weird how it SOMETIMES works for a bit, and it seemed to work fine with furmark for a bit

pallid cedar Oct 17, 2019, 7:36 PM

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furkark is a GPU stress test, not cpu

gritty venture Oct 17, 2019, 7:37 PM

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Yeah

sick reef Oct 17, 2019, 7:37 PM

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Also, obselete meaning anything to someone without an option to make it obselete to themselves.

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PepeLaugh

gritty venture Oct 17, 2019, 7:37 PM

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got a recommended CPU stresser for windows?

pallid cedar Oct 17, 2019, 7:37 PM

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obsolete meaning new motherboards don't accept DDR3 RAM anymore

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AIDA64

sick reef Oct 17, 2019, 7:37 PM

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Does his?

pallid cedar Oct 17, 2019, 7:37 PM

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full systenm stress test

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his cpu is a DDR3 based desktop proc

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discontinued

gritty venture Oct 17, 2019, 7:38 PM

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thanks ill give it a go

sick reef Oct 17, 2019, 7:38 PM

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If his motherboard uses DDR3, is DDR3 ram obsolete to him?

pallid cedar Oct 17, 2019, 7:38 PM

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his mobo prob uses DDR3, but the tech is obsolete, no support

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DDR4 time

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compatibility issues arise under new software with DDR3

sick reef Oct 17, 2019, 7:39 PM

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Does that matter in his situation, where he has the motherboard that uses DDR3?
Compatibility issues, yes, if that now is the case.

pallid cedar Oct 17, 2019, 7:39 PM

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his proc is old, discontinued. No support, no future updates for new software or games etc.
and with him getting BSOD it is most likely a cpu issue

sick reef Oct 17, 2019, 7:40 PM

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Unlikely to cause BSOD without component failure. Not fully impossible, but unlikely.

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Speaking specifically DDR3.

pallid cedar Oct 17, 2019, 7:41 PM

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his proc i old, hardware failure is possible

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the cpu is struggling though

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wherever is causing it to struggle

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voltage, pins, bosst clocks etc

sick reef Oct 17, 2019, 7:42 PM

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My 4790K struggled as well, before I switched out. But I dunno if that was a MB issue, or just that I used old AIO and old standard paste

pallid cedar Oct 17, 2019, 7:42 PM

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and BSOD can be caused by less than component failure

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as simple unstable clock can make it crash

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windows 10 is a special boi

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his is a 4690k

sick reef Oct 17, 2019, 7:43 PM

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It can, but ram in and of itself is what I spoke of and specified.

pallid cedar Oct 17, 2019, 7:43 PM

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and I've been speaking of his proc

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the fact that he has DDR3 ram just proves it's age

sick reef Oct 17, 2019, 7:44 PM

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The fact that it is a 4690 proves its age.

pallid cedar Oct 17, 2019, 7:44 PM

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yes, that too

sick reef Oct 17, 2019, 7:44 PM

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They are both from the same era, and it is why they are coupled.

pallid cedar Oct 17, 2019, 7:44 PM

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I'm aware

gritty venture Oct 17, 2019, 7:44 PM

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My rig is mad old for sure, i was planning to upgrade for black friday

pallid cedar Oct 17, 2019, 7:45 PM

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I'm simply pointing out that they are obsolete tech, and there are numerous software compatibility issues with those older proc systems

gritty venture Oct 17, 2019, 7:45 PM

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a while left for that though

pallid cedar Oct 17, 2019, 7:45 PM

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just an unfortunate circumstance of age it seems

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could even be a faulty PSU not giving enough stable power

gritty venture Oct 17, 2019, 7:45 PM

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Ive thought of that, but if theres a failure with the PSU, wouldnt the system shut down?

pallid cedar Oct 17, 2019, 7:46 PM

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not necessarily

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a pc can run with minimal power, when doing harder tasks it uses more, so when the psu can't give more than say, 250W when it's a 500W, then you can't push the system without causing crashes, shut-downs etc

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depending on the power usage of your components, of course

late sorrel Oct 17, 2019, 7:47 PM

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😆

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I had a 2500K before this

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and a 540

pallid cedar Oct 17, 2019, 7:47 PM

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haha

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I had a pre-built Acer with no GPU XD

late sorrel Oct 17, 2019, 7:47 PM

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that’s right, an i3 530

pallid cedar Oct 17, 2019, 7:47 PM

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AMD 3820 APU

sick reef Oct 17, 2019, 7:48 PM

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Obselete is a term that carries little value in this, is what I imply. It does not aid, constructively observe nor interject. It would be equal to saying "get a new one".

pallid cedar Oct 17, 2019, 7:48 PM

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which is valid criticism when speaking of old tech that has no support

sick reef Oct 17, 2019, 7:48 PM

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Does it help?

pallid cedar Oct 17, 2019, 7:48 PM

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he can remain on that system if he chooses, just with little to no support so it is not advised

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So yes, it helps

dusty pumice Oct 17, 2019, 7:48 PM

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So many people in this discord are running on old tech without support

pallid cedar Oct 17, 2019, 7:48 PM

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but are they having issues with their system? no

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he is

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the. point

gritty venture Oct 17, 2019, 7:49 PM

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Well..

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I have friends with almost completely new setups and theres problems

dusty pumice Oct 17, 2019, 7:49 PM

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^

sick reef Oct 17, 2019, 7:50 PM

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It helps you.
It is better to simply advice an upgrade, than to state obsoletion.

pallid cedar Oct 17, 2019, 7:50 PM

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never said there wouldn't be problem son new systems

gritty venture Oct 17, 2019, 7:50 PM

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but, sure. Mine is older so i accept there will be more problems than what they will have

pallid cedar Oct 17, 2019, 7:50 PM

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if somehting needs an upgrade, it is obsolete...

sick reef Oct 17, 2019, 7:50 PM

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No.

pallid cedar Oct 17, 2019, 7:50 PM

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you're taking offense to a term, idc really

dusty pumice Oct 17, 2019, 7:50 PM

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How are we taking offense of the term?

pallid cedar Oct 17, 2019, 7:50 PM

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obsolete definition is : no longer produced, out of date.

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it fits fine,m regardless of your sensibilities towards it

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enough

dusty pumice Oct 17, 2019, 7:51 PM

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You stated its obsolete like 5 times or more already

pallid cedar Oct 17, 2019, 7:51 PM

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because it is an apt term to use.

sick reef Oct 17, 2019, 7:51 PM

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So if I use up my toothbrush, it's obsolete?

pallid cedar Oct 17, 2019, 7:51 PM

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is there an issue with sing a correct term?

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wow

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if that model of toothbrush is no longer produced, then yes

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learn the definition and come back I guess :/

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no longer produced or used; out of date.
"the disposal of old and obsolete machinery"

sick reef Oct 17, 2019, 7:52 PM

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The term isn't wrong, but it's useless in the situation. Non-descript.

pallid cedar Oct 17, 2019, 7:52 PM

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obsolete does not mean unusable

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different terms

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it's not useless, it explains a problem with lack of support for a piece of tech that he is having issues with

sick reef Oct 17, 2019, 7:53 PM

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Does that help him?

dusty pumice Oct 17, 2019, 7:53 PM

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I mean if you want to have a discussion about terms like one of the mods would say take it to general chat

pallid cedar Oct 17, 2019, 7:53 PM

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the best advice is to upgrade from the obsolete tech

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not a big deal like you're getting all wokred up over

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whatsoever

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buh-bye

sick reef Oct 17, 2019, 7:55 PM

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That's better. The advice obviously the same without stating the obvious, as it is simply clear from the age of it.

pallid cedar Oct 17, 2019, 7:55 PM

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I really don't care how badly you want to argue semantics.

sick reef Oct 17, 2019, 7:55 PM

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Only one.

pallid cedar Oct 17, 2019, 7:55 PM

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it doesn't help

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I don't know for sure if he was aware it was obsolete tech, until I told him.
Am I supposed to read his mind and know that he already understands it's no longer produced or supported?

chrome chasm Oct 17, 2019, 7:57 PM

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Please guy chill down a little.

pallid cedar Oct 17, 2019, 7:57 PM

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so I told him, and you took issue with the word itself

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whatever, useless argument

chrome chasm Oct 17, 2019, 7:57 PM

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All of you.

pallid cedar Oct 17, 2019, 7:58 PM

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I was done, having to keep clarifying myself to folks here

chrome chasm Oct 17, 2019, 8:00 PM

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Something obsolete mean it no longer serve any purpose at all. If it can still serve a single task, it is not obsolete but limited in application. Now please calm down and change subject. thanks.

pallid cedar Oct 17, 2019, 8:00 PM

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obsolete does NOT refer to it being usable or not

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it refers to still being produced

sick reef Oct 17, 2019, 8:00 PM

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Obsolete is right under his definition as well, but there is a term for obsoletion personally, as well.

steady summit Oct 17, 2019, 8:00 PM

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GUYS

pallid cedar Oct 17, 2019, 8:00 PM

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a fridge can be obsolete, no longer produced, being 30 years old, but still work

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Im done.

steady summit Oct 17, 2019, 8:01 PM

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drop the topic please

pallid cedar Oct 17, 2019, 8:01 PM

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google it

gritty venture Oct 17, 2019, 8:02 PM

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Well in other news im 10 minutes into stress test and its working fine so far

pallid cedar Oct 17, 2019, 8:02 PM

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good sign

gritty venture Oct 17, 2019, 8:02 PM

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I just cant wait to toggle GPUs and have the BSOD pop up right away

sick reef Oct 17, 2019, 8:03 PM

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That does sound like a power draw issue.

gritty venture Oct 17, 2019, 8:04 PM

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Ill have to try another PSU tomorrow

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Its just weird how switching out parts made it work fine for a bit, and another time it works for 3-4 minutes, and then sometimes it BSODs after a second or two

sick reef Oct 17, 2019, 8:05 PM

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If the PSU is going bad, it could handle low-intensity workloads until it starts to run hot, as of which it would perform worse.

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If it is getting really bad, it can be highly varying capabilities.

gritty venture Oct 17, 2019, 8:08 PM

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Makes sense, maybe theres a test that checks PSU for this

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Aye

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Toggled gpu in the tester, and it went BSOD

pallid cedar Oct 17, 2019, 8:16 PM

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well, def a gpu issue then

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actually, could still be power

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what kind of psu is it? and how old?

gritty venture Oct 17, 2019, 8:19 PM

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Corsair RM650, 2015

pallid cedar Oct 17, 2019, 8:19 PM

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hmm

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you got a friend that can let you test their PSU in your system?

gritty venture Oct 17, 2019, 8:20 PM

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Heh yeah. He was over earlier and we "fixed" it. So we didnt test it

pallid cedar Oct 17, 2019, 8:20 PM

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lol, been there

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give that a shot, see if that helps. If it does, you know what needs replacing

gritty venture Oct 17, 2019, 8:21 PM

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Ill ask if he can come over tomorrow again, if not ill have to pull one out of the other pc i have

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aye

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for now ill try to run my AMD card again and see how it runs, i guess

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Thanks for helping Spartan, hopefully ill swap the PSU and thats it 😫

pallid cedar Oct 17, 2019, 8:29 PM

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HOPE IT WORKS OUT FOR YOU

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damn caps lock lol

flint lantern Oct 17, 2019, 10:35 PM

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@Mayo I'm talking about nigh all games

fleet canopy Oct 17, 2019, 10:35 PM

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Ah, okay

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I meant like

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I figured the 5700 XT could reach 100-150 due to it being a gpu supposedly for 1440p gaming

flint lantern Oct 17, 2019, 10:38 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyA0GiqMZj0

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It does really good in most games, in some games it could be a 50 FPS difference

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But it never drops below 60

gritty venture Oct 18, 2019, 1:15 AM

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hm well. Switched to my radeon card, and have had stuff running completely fine for the past 6 hours. I guess its some kind of weird Nvidia problem 😕

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Will turn off and see how it runs later

fleet canopy Oct 18, 2019, 1:18 AM

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Well you know what the people call them

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NoVideo

gritty venture Oct 18, 2019, 1:19 AM

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OMEGALUL

fleet canopy Oct 18, 2019, 1:19 AM

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The NoVideo 2080 Shitter is the best card for getting 999+ frames on Black Screen

gritty venture Oct 18, 2019, 1:23 AM

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👌

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Its been working flawless, but now shutting down and installing windows updates, i have a feeling it will break down Harold

chrome chasm Oct 18, 2019, 1:32 AM

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What AMD offers better? A slightly lower price? Ho yay it run hotter, take more power, less optimized game, can't reach 2080 power, has the same freaking problem with screen going black. Enough with the fan-boyish already. Both card are great for what they do for their range and costumer target.

fleet canopy Oct 18, 2019, 1:35 AM

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Lol calm down

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I’m not fanboying either

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I totally would go for a 2070S but I don’t see the point in having ray tracing

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I have a PC that isn’t even close to what the most recent releases have been

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And hell I’d go for either one depending on perf and price

chrome chasm Oct 18, 2019, 1:37 AM

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There a more civil way to discuss product, Like your last message could have been That happen with Nvidia card to get bad driver and get stuck on black screen

fleet canopy Oct 18, 2019, 1:38 AM

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I was making a joke about the name

chrome chasm Oct 18, 2019, 1:38 AM

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Nvidia 2080S is a good card for getting 999 FPS on black screen

fleet canopy Oct 18, 2019, 1:39 AM

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NoVideo is the word I used to refer the recent problem

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If I did have enough money for a pretty great build, and the price wouldn’t be a problem, I would go nVidia and either AMD or Intel depending on their percormance

late sorrel Oct 18, 2019, 1:41 AM

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Oh yeah, NoVideo

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their latest drivers for their older cards have an issue

dusty pumice Oct 18, 2019, 1:41 AM

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Novideo percormance

late sorrel Oct 18, 2019, 1:42 AM

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exactly

fleet canopy Oct 18, 2019, 1:43 AM

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Now don’t take it too hard, I understand that it’s pointless going for just one side because I know AMD offers great price on cards, but I also know NVidia offers good performance for quite a price

late sorrel Oct 18, 2019, 1:43 AM

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don’t forget that the 2060S and the 2070S are literally terrible for what you pay

fleet canopy Oct 18, 2019, 1:43 AM

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Except ray trace

late sorrel Oct 18, 2019, 1:44 AM

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you pay 50-100USD just for RTX and other gimmicks

fleet canopy Oct 18, 2019, 1:44 AM

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5700 XT is slightly better than 2070S by 2-4% which I know isn’t much, but proves their price on the performance

chrome chasm Oct 18, 2019, 1:44 AM

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Yay it is bad, at this point you just go AMD or l060/1070

late sorrel Oct 18, 2019, 1:45 AM

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don’t forget the hundie you save

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pssh a 1060?

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just get a 570/580

fleet canopy Oct 18, 2019, 1:45 AM

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1060 3GB isn’t great for me now lmao

late sorrel Oct 18, 2019, 1:45 AM

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they’re cheaper at this point

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also don’t forget that the RX570 is literally cheaper for the same thing

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oh yeah actually I belive novideo won the war on the RX570

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I apologize

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but hey, at least the 2060S and the 2070S are defeated

fleet canopy Oct 18, 2019, 1:49 AM

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5700 XT performance but with ray tracing