#pc-build-help-and-tech-talk | GTFO | Page 32

fleet canopy Sep 8, 2019, 6:46 AM

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I have a challenge

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Get a build with a 2080 Ti for less than 1000$

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:)

abstract kite Sep 8, 2019, 6:46 AM

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why do I get the feeling that's already a youtube video

fleet canopy Sep 8, 2019, 6:47 AM

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3000$

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God

abstract kite Sep 8, 2019, 6:47 AM

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for?

fleet canopy Sep 8, 2019, 6:47 AM

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9900K 2080 Ti

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I asked for 1000$ or lower

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Dislikes

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Hah but no I can't find one

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Like you just can't

abstract kite Sep 8, 2019, 6:48 AM

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it's impossible

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actually

fleet canopy Sep 8, 2019, 6:48 AM

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1080 Ti sold for 2080 Ti price

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It isn't impossible I bet

abstract kite Sep 8, 2019, 6:48 AM

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buy a bricked 2080ti and bricked 9900k

fleet canopy Sep 8, 2019, 6:48 AM

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Around 1000$

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Hah

abstract kite Sep 8, 2019, 6:49 AM

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learn how to fix stuff

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profit??

fleet canopy Sep 8, 2019, 6:49 AM

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Hmm

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Maybe so

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2080 Super, no one cares about it

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Either my headphone cord or the jack is fucked, and giving me crackles

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I would most likely believe it's cord because it's damn long

abstract kite Sep 8, 2019, 6:50 AM

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I hate when that happens

fleet canopy Sep 8, 2019, 6:50 AM

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Like it's hanging nearly to the ground

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lol

abstract kite Sep 8, 2019, 6:51 AM

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I have a controller cable and it's so long that I could walk to the kitchen with my controller still connected lol

fleet canopy Sep 8, 2019, 6:51 AM

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lul

abstract kite Sep 8, 2019, 6:56 AM

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just like why

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oh god

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do you know they made grease proof controllers

fleet canopy Sep 8, 2019, 6:57 AM

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Really?

abstract kite Sep 8, 2019, 6:57 AM

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It's just like... really?

fleet canopy Sep 8, 2019, 6:57 AM

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Ye

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They also made a keyboard at which can still be used effectively after getting it dirty

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So

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the PC gamer newsletter decided to do a test

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They literally yeeted so much food and drinks on it

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And something about being able to clean it easier I guess?

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I wouldn't imagine so

abstract kite Sep 8, 2019, 6:59 AM

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I would probably die watching them yeet all sorts of things on the KEYBOARD

fleet canopy Sep 8, 2019, 6:59 AM

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keyboard*

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Also there's a supposedly 'waterproof' case

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Or leak proof?

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idk

abstract kite Sep 8, 2019, 7:00 AM

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I mean

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doesn't sound useful unless you put soda cans on your case

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and that doesn't seem like a good idea at all

fleet canopy Sep 8, 2019, 7:02 AM

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kek

abstract kite Sep 8, 2019, 7:05 AM

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eke

fleet canopy Sep 8, 2019, 7:08 AM

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Oh damn I did not realize it was 3 AM

abstract kite Sep 8, 2019, 7:15 AM

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12:15 AM here

brisk badger Sep 8, 2019, 11:39 AM

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Puppy FayeVRToday at 5:17 PM
yes and no, amd is less priced, but it has the consequences for it
WoozaYesterday at 8:39 PM
You live in the past ? :smile:
Mirror’s Marrionette!Yesterday at 8:52 PM
what
faye is right
MayoYesterday at 8:52 PM
Ye
AMD doesn’t have RTX
:)
Mirror’s Marrionette!Yesterday at 8:53 PM
No RTX, DLSS, Image sharpening that’s about the same to Radeon’s.

I thought we were speaken of cpu's lol

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DLSS seems to be anyway dead anyway. RTX idk but seems like it's a waste of money for the performacne it delivers

steady summit Sep 8, 2019, 12:02 PM

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well, new games are gonna run with rtx function and parts of the future stuff will be better anyways :D

urban gulch Sep 8, 2019, 12:44 PM

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angeryping @fiery nacelle

late sorrel Sep 8, 2019, 2:51 PM

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I mean, matze obviously wants the RTX

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DLSS is dead now because they’ve launched a new sharpening program that looks about equal to Radeon Image Sharpening. @brisk badger

fiery nacelle Sep 8, 2019, 9:21 PM

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New games are going to run with DXR functions (or equivalent competing API solutions) - it doesn't matter whether it's Nvidia's RTX or AMD's equivalent function, DXR is Microsoft's hardware-vendor-agnostic DirectX Raytracing feature

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RTX is very early stage

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No point to get it now

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Better wait for an updated / refined implementation of DXR hardware from either AMD or Nvidia come 2020 or 2021

dusty pumice Sep 8, 2019, 9:23 PM

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OHH Yea baby oil me up and slap me with some DXR

fiery nacelle Sep 8, 2019, 9:24 PM

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Once Microsoft's Xbox Scarlett and Sony's PlayStation 5 come out in 2020 with AMD's version of hardware raytracing - ironically raytracing for most games will be run on AMD hardware anyway, via console

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wonder what they'll call it? Navi II?

dusty pumice Sep 8, 2019, 9:24 PM

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@fiery nacelle Its gonna be hard for both companys to fit in a DXracer chair into their updated / refined implementation hardware lmfao

fiery nacelle Sep 8, 2019, 9:25 PM

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Hahaha

fleet canopy Sep 8, 2019, 9:25 PM

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Hm

dusty pumice Sep 8, 2019, 9:25 PM

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Im so not excited for the next products coming out in 2020 / 2021 its gonna be even more expansive

fleet canopy Sep 8, 2019, 9:25 PM

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kek

dusty pumice Sep 8, 2019, 9:25 PM

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Consumer life sucks might actually start my own company by then to be able to avoid paying my tax on products like that

fleet canopy Sep 8, 2019, 9:26 PM

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You might be wrong

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It could be cheaper for more perf

fiery nacelle Sep 8, 2019, 9:26 PM

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Reaching the point of diminishing returns on silicon I guess

dusty pumice Sep 8, 2019, 9:26 PM

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Im already able to write of taxes on gaming products but not 100%

fiery nacelle Sep 8, 2019, 9:26 PM

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Unless there is some way of running GPU chiplets

dusty pumice Sep 8, 2019, 9:26 PM

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Its in no way gonna be cheaper

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Only way its gonna be cheaper if they resize the gpu's into smaller cards but thats not gonna happen

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Bigger cards less production = higher price

fiery nacelle Sep 8, 2019, 9:27 PM

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CPU ok - since both AMD and Intel can figure out a multi-die chiplet solution

dusty pumice Sep 8, 2019, 9:27 PM

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Only way i see it becoming less expansive if the intel GPU's kick off some shit storm for Nvidia

fiery nacelle Sep 8, 2019, 9:27 PM

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GPUs - need work on how to get multiple GPU dies to work together without the latency penalty so long associated with crossfire / SLI

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Even Intel cannot run from the costs of large GPU dies

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And more likely they'll be more interested in the enterprise / professional workstation GPU market

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For ML, etc

dusty pumice Sep 8, 2019, 9:28 PM

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We'll see whats gonna happen not enough info out to speculate

bleak hollow Sep 9, 2019, 3:08 PM

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whats some gud cards right now

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for refrence i have ausus striks 1050ti oc i59600k 16gb ram

hexed horizon Sep 9, 2019, 3:12 PM

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Uhh, expensive cards are obviously good

rancid thorn Sep 9, 2019, 4:16 PM

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These days it depends on your screen. If you got a 1080p60hz it'd be almost useless to change from 1050ti or to go any higher than 1660. If you got 1080p144hz I guess 2060/2070 are good enough. 1440p60hz is 2070, 1440p144hz is 2080, and 4k is 2080/2080ti or so. With the super it might have changed slightly but the general idea is still there

urban gulch Sep 9, 2019, 4:26 PM

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@bleak hollow As long as you don't get a powerful graphics card with a slow cpu 🤷

hexed horizon Sep 9, 2019, 4:26 PM

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i5-9600k

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Faye!!!!!!!

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You are not listening to him!!!!!!!!!

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😡

urban gulch Sep 9, 2019, 4:27 PM

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wha?

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i mean in general lol, not directly at him

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but i still recommend rtx 2080 ti 🤷

hexed horizon Sep 9, 2019, 4:28 PM

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You pinged him!

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That means you are talking to him!

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You can not escape truth, Faye!

urban gulch Sep 9, 2019, 4:28 PM

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im talking to you without pinging you :p

hexed horizon Sep 9, 2019, 4:28 PM

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You made oopsie doopsie

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Yes, you can do that.

urban gulch Sep 9, 2019, 4:28 PM

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weird

hexed horizon Sep 9, 2019, 4:28 PM

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But you can't not talk to someone WHILE YOU PING THEM

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😤

urban gulch Sep 9, 2019, 4:29 PM

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shh it's all gonna be fine

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hugs

hexed horizon Sep 9, 2019, 4:29 PM

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never!!!!

harsh pagoda Sep 9, 2019, 6:47 PM

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i buyed a Samsung Odyssey... anyone knows the memory and brand frequency? i will add 8GB RAM

urban gulch Sep 9, 2019, 6:52 PM

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??

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.. the laptop or the VR?

rancid thorn Sep 9, 2019, 7:06 PM

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Brand frequency?

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Quick, find a joke

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Question stays valid tho, but if it's a laptop the easiest way to know frequency is to open the task manager and go on ram part in performance tab. It shows freq now, not been there for long tho so it's if you're on last windows version I guess.

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But frequency doesn't say ram latency which you can only know by opening the pc up. Doesn't matter too much tho, even for freq I'd say, you need to know if it's ddr3 or 4 tho but that's most probably on product page of the pc.

fleet canopy Sep 9, 2019, 7:09 PM

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Hm

rancid thorn Sep 9, 2019, 7:10 PM

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There's lot of tho in my comment damn

fleet canopy Sep 9, 2019, 7:11 PM

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Tho

rancid thorn Sep 9, 2019, 7:11 PM

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Tho it doesn't matter much

fleet canopy Sep 9, 2019, 7:11 PM

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Kek

rancid thorn Sep 9, 2019, 7:11 PM

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I don't think people will notice tho

fleet canopy Sep 9, 2019, 7:12 PM

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People will

rancid thorn Sep 9, 2019, 7:12 PM

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Well that's too bad.

urban gulch Sep 9, 2019, 7:13 PM

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freq for ram in pc just download speccy

rancid thorn Sep 9, 2019, 7:13 PM

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tho

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Oh right freq is in product page as well

urban gulch Sep 9, 2019, 7:13 PM

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🤷

rancid thorn Sep 9, 2019, 7:14 PM

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Task manager is still faster to find than product page tho

harsh pagoda Sep 9, 2019, 11:53 PM

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it's ddr4

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thanks guys

abstract kite Sep 10, 2019, 12:30 AM

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Can a rx560x and a amd 2500u with 16 gb of ddr4 ram run this game well or at least 60 fps

late sorrel Sep 10, 2019, 12:32 AM

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I would compare your system to what the developers are using

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you probably can

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but see how it compares to: a i7 4790 and a GTX 970

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It does compare well to what they use, so I personally think you will be fine

pallid cedar Sep 11, 2019, 5:32 PM

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@abstract kite running any game at 60fps is essentially possible on your hardware, just not at 1080p or higher than med settings

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for comparison, the Xbox One X has an APU with the GPU equivalent of an RX580/GTX 1070 and even that console struggles to push 60fps at 1080p with high graphic settings. Most games on xbox one X run at med-high at best with 45-60fps.

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that low 2GHz clock on the 2500u will bottleneck you

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same as the 2.3GHz 8 core cpu on the Xbox One X does to it's APU system.

late sorrel Sep 11, 2019, 11:18 PM

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📎 image0.jpg

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Can we get an F for my ram?

void perch Sep 11, 2019, 11:18 PM

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late sorrel Sep 11, 2019, 11:18 PM

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(They’re both supposed to be on)

dense wasp Sep 11, 2019, 11:19 PM

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late sorrel Sep 11, 2019, 11:19 PM

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📎 image0.jpg

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oh thank god

urban gulch Sep 11, 2019, 11:19 PM

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:p

late sorrel Sep 11, 2019, 11:19 PM

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tf is overclocking

chrome chasm Sep 11, 2019, 11:19 PM

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Is that smoke?

late sorrel Sep 11, 2019, 11:19 PM

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amd just be out there

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no

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fingerprints

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on the inside of my case too

urban gulch Sep 11, 2019, 11:22 PM

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Damn

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Clean bro

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No mistakes allowed after murder

late sorrel Sep 11, 2019, 11:22 PM

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yeah @pallid cedar how was your overclocking experience with AMD’s ryzen master software?

pallid cedar Sep 11, 2019, 11:24 PM

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I didn't use it

late sorrel Sep 11, 2019, 11:24 PM

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did you not iverclock?

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I thought you said you did

pallid cedar Sep 11, 2019, 11:24 PM

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I sure did

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manually, via BIOS

late sorrel Sep 11, 2019, 11:25 PM

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ah

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okay

pallid cedar Sep 11, 2019, 11:26 PM

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I raised the clock speed to what I wanted as a target, and started low with the voltage, and slowly increased voltage till I got a stable stress test

late sorrel Sep 11, 2019, 11:26 PM

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okay

pallid cedar Sep 11, 2019, 11:27 PM

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and raise the voltage by 0.00625v each time

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don't go over 1.4

late sorrel Sep 11, 2019, 11:27 PM

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ok

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well

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I’ll do that this weekend then

pallid cedar Sep 11, 2019, 11:27 PM

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it's a day-long thing

late sorrel Sep 11, 2019, 11:28 PM

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yeah

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I guessed as much

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silicon lottery am I right?

pallid cedar Sep 11, 2019, 11:28 PM

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yup

late sorrel Sep 11, 2019, 11:33 PM

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tfw ryzen master says “not a stable profile”

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“Won’t be applied”

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literally crying rn

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smh amd

pallid cedar Sep 12, 2019, 12:21 AM

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😦

late sorrel Sep 12, 2019, 3:36 AM

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yeah so I know what I’m doing this weekend

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📎 image0.jpg

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so I have a mini 2019 “dream pc” idea

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WBBnmq

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all I gotta do is make the psu modular and buy some rgb cables

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tbh if I get a summer job that could cover it, my old pc will be out here becoming a media server

fleet canopy Sep 12, 2019, 3:55 AM

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Quite a price

late sorrel Sep 12, 2019, 5:55 AM

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yeah I know

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still want it tho

dire salmon Sep 12, 2019, 6:00 AM

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this is quite cheap actually lol

late sorrel Sep 12, 2019, 6:01 AM

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I mean yeah

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but it might go higher soon

dire salmon Sep 12, 2019, 6:01 AM

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oh yea def

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and cleaning a liquid CPU cooler is apparently annoying

late sorrel Sep 12, 2019, 6:02 AM

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I kinda wanna go for the custom psu cables

dire salmon Sep 12, 2019, 6:02 AM

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I feel the 3.6 Could be better still for only a couple hundred more

late sorrel Sep 12, 2019, 6:03 AM

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what 3.6?

dire salmon Sep 12, 2019, 6:03 AM

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the 3.6 processor

late sorrel Sep 12, 2019, 6:03 AM

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huh

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this is a 3700X

dire salmon Sep 12, 2019, 6:03 AM

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Idk that part I only vaugly know the GHZ

late sorrel Sep 12, 2019, 6:04 AM

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yeah that’s the GHz on the processor

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The 3800X won’t help me

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anyway: overclocking

dire salmon Sep 12, 2019, 6:04 AM

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I have been told various times that overclocking is stupid

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cus it will fuck ur comp

late sorrel Sep 12, 2019, 6:04 AM

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the 3700X can be overlooked to the 3800X

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no

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at least, I can do the boost on it

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that will make it closer to the 3800X

dire salmon Sep 12, 2019, 6:05 AM

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U planning on getting a specific case for it?

late sorrel Sep 12, 2019, 6:06 AM

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yeah, the A1

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it’s a tiny boi

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it’s just an idea, but I kinda want it to become a reality next year if I get a job over the summer

dire salmon Sep 12, 2019, 6:07 AM

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ah yea didnt see that for some reason

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Holy shit its so cute

late sorrel Sep 12, 2019, 6:07 AM

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yeah ikr

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it has the wireless charging too

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In the top for phones

dire salmon Sep 12, 2019, 6:08 AM

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oooo

late sorrel Sep 12, 2019, 6:08 AM

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I have a compatible phone so that makes it worth it

dire salmon Sep 12, 2019, 6:08 AM

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ah yea nice

late sorrel Sep 12, 2019, 6:10 AM

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I’ve not seen any other cool mini itx/micro atx. Cases

dire salmon Sep 12, 2019, 6:19 AM

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shame for me its 2400

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if I wanted to buy that cus USD to AUD prices

late sorrel Sep 12, 2019, 6:19 AM

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oh no

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Like, the A1 is actually really cool

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I see nothing similar for ATX stuff

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or, at least similarly crazy ideas

late sorrel Sep 12, 2019, 7:04 AM

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https://twitter.com/msitweets/status/1172042236739096576?s=20

fleet canopy Sep 12, 2019, 11:59 AM

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I mean sure, 1.5k isn’t that bad

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But quite a price still

pallid cedar Sep 12, 2019, 3:07 PM

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I would not suggest a water cooler unless an air cooler won't fit in the case

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nvm I see the mini-ITX in-win in the list

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you are most likely going to run into space issues in that case with a full size GPU

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probably also the radiator for liquid cooling

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I'll have bto look up a review for that case 😛 I know nothing about IN-Win

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it's an expensive micro-ITX case because it comes with a shitty power supply

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case has no fans included for airflow

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the included power supply is non-modular as well

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRiCON5PAY8

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seems like very specific details in the case that you pay extra for, do you need an induction charger on the top of the case? Are you okay with a non-modular, proprietary power supply setup? You're going to need some extra fans for airflow, especially if it can actually take a full size GPU that will be pumping out heat on top of the high-end cpu

sick reef Sep 12, 2019, 4:05 PM

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Water beats air if you can't get good flow, even with equal flow. shrug
But yeah, space is a possible issue.

pallid cedar Sep 12, 2019, 4:08 PM

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water rarely beats Noctua air

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especially AIO

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custom loops are better than air

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but they typically require a fair amount of space

late sorrel Sep 12, 2019, 4:33 PM

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I want one because I have a compatible phone

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and theres 2 fans in the case

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and I've recently changed the psu to an EVGA modular one

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and fan-wise, it comes with 2, so 2 more are added

pallid cedar Sep 12, 2019, 4:45 PM

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fairly certain zero fans come with that case

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have they changed the SKU?

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for the same price you could get a better, slightly bigger case

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allows for more upgrading in the future (more HDD/SSD drives, PCI slots, etc)

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but that's up to your preference of course

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the other issue with that case that I have heard is poor airflow from the bottom intakes

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for cooling I'd suggest this over any AIO https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xCL7YJ/noctua-cpu-cooler-nhd15s

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should fit that case if you decide to go with it

late sorrel Sep 12, 2019, 8:40 PM

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a1 plus

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has rgb, fans, and a psu with it

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I mean, I fully agree that AIOs are shit

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but then again

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aesthetic

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I probably won't even buy this pc anyway xd

pallid cedar Sep 12, 2019, 11:53 PM

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rip

late sorrel Sep 13, 2019, 3:28 AM

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yeah

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just a waste of life idea

pallid cedar Sep 13, 2019, 3:41 PM

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a new pc is never a waste of life imo 😛

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I went 5 years without a pc, just an xbox and my phone. I saved and saved and finally got the beast I wanted, and I'm beyond happy for it

chrome chasm Sep 13, 2019, 3:42 PM

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How about playing with a stick in the great outdoor!

hexed horizon Sep 13, 2019, 3:42 PM

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Neat

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Yeah, Toobad should know what a childhood without electronics is like

pallid cedar Sep 13, 2019, 3:42 PM

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I grew up playing with sticks in the great outdoors, time to catch up on gaming lol

hexed horizon Sep 13, 2019, 3:42 PM

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I mean I used to play a lot outdoors, in the sandbox with a rubber dinosaur at the age of 8

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But then again, many early memories of mine are me and my brothers playing Rome Total War, Warcraft 3, Lego racers, lego starwars, Super DX ball

pallid cedar Sep 13, 2019, 3:43 PM

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my parents had a pc while I was growing up, but it only had like professional software for my dad's work and educational games on it like Reader Rabbit and shit

hexed horizon Sep 13, 2019, 3:44 PM

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Super DX ball is a very nice game

pallid cedar Sep 13, 2019, 3:44 PM

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is that a Bust-A-Move style game? bunch of colored balls that you shoot the same color ball at to destroy them?

hexed horizon Sep 13, 2019, 3:45 PM

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Bunch of colored bricks that I hit with a ball and a pad that I move

pallid cedar Sep 13, 2019, 3:45 PM

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yeah, gotcha. Basically the same as an old game I played before, can't remember what it was called

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probably just Brick breaker

hexed horizon Sep 13, 2019, 3:46 PM

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Its a game that was remade many many times

pallid cedar Sep 13, 2019, 3:46 PM

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they usually are, yeah

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old school arcadde games

hexed horizon Sep 13, 2019, 3:46 PM

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Yep

fiery nacelle Sep 14, 2019, 5:50 AM

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http://www.lian-li.com/pc-tu150/

fleet canopy Sep 14, 2019, 5:50 AM

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Hm

fiery nacelle Sep 14, 2019, 5:50 AM

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@dire salmon @late sorrel @pallid cedar @sick reef @hexed horizon

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oh, and Mayo too haha

fleet canopy Sep 14, 2019, 5:51 AM

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Why me?

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owo

fiery nacelle Sep 14, 2019, 5:51 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3HcbOw1_YQ

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for pc cases

fleet canopy Sep 14, 2019, 5:58 AM

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Seems interesting

pallid cedar Sep 14, 2019, 3:03 PM

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huh, a hide-away carry handle? Nifty, decent small case for bringing with you to LAN parties etc lol

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do people still hold LAN parties? 😛

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My friggin case is a BEHEMOTH, no way I can drag mine anywhere

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with nothing in it the box it came in had a "2-person carry MINIMUM" warning on it XD

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it weights over 50LBS with all components in it

rancid thorn Sep 14, 2019, 3:28 PM

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Only lan parties I've seen (and attended) were hosted by game associations from universities

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In the past 10 yrs

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I don't think lan parties at one's home exist anymore

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Or at least is quite rare.

pallid cedar Sep 14, 2019, 3:46 PM

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really though

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people play online now

rancid thorn Sep 14, 2019, 4:39 PM

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Well y'know, playing online comfortably on your own chair VS moving your big ass pc to play in an unusual environment

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Unusual and potentially not as comfy

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Even though personally I'd move my big ass pc anytime for some good ol' lan wc3, css, hl2dm and anything else offered I'm not difficult

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So long as we can insert some good ol' cliché of taking 3 hours to install all the things while discussing random shit to then play for the next 20-30hours with some pause cause some random dude has his pc crash and we have to start the 2hour map all over again because fucking Carl spilled some coke on kb or some shit

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Good ol' time

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Oh and network problems

pallid cedar Sep 14, 2019, 4:51 PM

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lol

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the good ol' days

late sorrel Sep 14, 2019, 5:26 PM

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that’s actually pretty cool

pallid cedar Sep 14, 2019, 6:05 PM

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small cases typically look aesthetically good, they just always make me wary about airflow/ventilation. Even big cases can have those issues

rancid thorn Sep 14, 2019, 6:20 PM

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Airflow once you got a case sized hardware is fine on most size. It was shown by ltt that even if you block all the airfoow by deciding to store boxes and shirts inside the case temperature stay fine. So I wouldn't worry about it in small cases

fleet canopy Sep 14, 2019, 6:25 PM

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Why have I heard nothing new from Intel while AMD is currently having new stuff come in?

rancid thorn Sep 14, 2019, 6:31 PM

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Intel is having their 10th Gen out

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Talked about it 4ish weeks ago

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Or at least they announced it, dunno the actual release date

late sorrel Sep 14, 2019, 6:31 PM

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so what

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it’s literally nothing new

rancid thorn Sep 14, 2019, 6:32 PM

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Well yeah but I'm answering the question, Intel is currently silent because they already announced shit

fleet canopy Sep 14, 2019, 6:37 PM

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I didn't know they had anything for 10th Gen

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I just assumed they went silent lol

late sorrel Sep 14, 2019, 6:42 PM

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yeah

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it’s nothing special though

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because a) they are having manufacturing problems

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and b) wtf is 7nm

fleet canopy Sep 14, 2019, 6:43 PM

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kek

rancid thorn Sep 14, 2019, 6:46 PM

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Well at least it's no longer 14nm

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I like Intel products but damn by the time they get 7nm AMD will have 4nm for 2+versions

fleet canopy Sep 14, 2019, 6:47 PM

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kek

rancid thorn Sep 14, 2019, 6:49 PM

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When they did 8th Gen they probably did nothing whatsoever to justify any release so they just unlocked some cores

fleet canopy Sep 15, 2019, 2:44 PM

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Ryzen 7 3700X

4x8GB G.Skill Flare X 3200mhz OC'd to 3600mhz 14-15-14-23-37-1T

Gigabyte B450 AORUS M

Samsung Evo Plus 500GB NVME M.2

SeaSonic Focus Plus Gold 550W

Corsair Obsidian 350D Laying Flat, w/o Drive Bays, Front, and Side Panel

Corsair H110i Extreme + Arctic MX4 Top Mounted Exhaust

2 Corsair 140mm Front Intake Fans

1 Corsair 120mm Rear Exhaust Fans

Adrenalin 19.9.1 Drivers, Clean Win 10 Pro install

Ambient Temperature was controlled at 25C/77F

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Summarization by the tester at the end

**PowerColor 5700 XT Red Devil - This card was the largest of the bunch in length, width, and height. It ended up being the quietest and coolest under load. It had the highest idle temps as the fan kick on at 60C. It had the highest average clock speed and power consumption under load. With three fans, its RPM was the lowest. Compared to the rest, it had the most RGB options.

Sapphire 5700 XT Pulse - This card was the shortest of the bunch in terms of length, but still occupied 2.5 slots. It was still taller than the Asrock. Like the PowerColor, it was running at 0 RPM when idle. It uses a horizontal fin design that allowed for the lowest idle temps with the intake fans blowing on it. It had the highest boost frequency and was considerably quiet under load. It has an always on red only logo.

Asrock 5700 XT Challenger - This was the thinnest card with a true 2 slot design. Unfortunately, it ran the hottest and loudest. It required considerably higher fan speeds compared to the other cards. The fans are locked at 15% when idle which added some noise. The 5 dB difference under load to the Red Devil was night and day. It also had the lowest average clock speed and power consumption under load. A very simple card with no RGB.**

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lol sorry if it counts as spam```

north bronze Sep 15, 2019, 2:48 PM

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tldr powercolor wins

fleet canopy Sep 15, 2019, 2:48 PM

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Tests:

Idle - Windows Desktop for 10 minutes.

Load - Unigine Heaven, 1440 Extreme Full Screen for 15 minutes.

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Well

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You could say the Powercolor wins

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But it's only up to the person deciding lol

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For instance

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PowerColor is the largest in length, width, and hight

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While Sapphire is the shortest in length

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If you don't like or cannot fit a thick GPU into case, Asrock will be the good choice

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If you don't give a shit and want RGB, Powercolor

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Sapphire has the highest boost frequency out of all of them

rancid thorn Sep 15, 2019, 2:56 PM

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Just bring a saw and cut a hole in case

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Then it's good

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It's a free upgrade

fleet canopy Sep 15, 2019, 2:57 PM

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True, but people would want to keep the case in its perfect condition and not cut up the case

rancid thorn Sep 15, 2019, 2:59 PM

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I understand how most like to have something pretty but personally power >everything so I prefer to have practical case, and if it's too small I just cut out part of it. And well, I keep old cases just in case I got to make a new pc for further needs and so I did have to cut some holes a while back

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It's fun to cut cases

fleet canopy Sep 15, 2019, 3:00 PM

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Kek I'd rather not, as I don't wanna fuck anything up and I love how a case can look in the way it is

rancid thorn Sep 15, 2019, 3:00 PM

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Well you can't fuck anything up by doing things to the case

abstract kite Sep 15, 2019, 3:00 PM

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I got the bequiet pro 900 (first edition) and I'm doing my second build in it. It's a massive tower.

rancid thorn Sep 15, 2019, 3:01 PM

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Yeah massive tower are cool too

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Got one as well, fractal design r5

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I had a shoebox pc for a while as well, with just mb placed on top of it and the rest lying around. Works quite well and easier for travel ^^

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It's weird to turn on computer with keys tho, since I had no turn on buttons

fleet canopy Sep 15, 2019, 3:04 PM

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lol oof

rancid thorn Sep 15, 2019, 3:05 PM

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Case is too heavy for the plane but I managed to stay under 20kg limit with pc and 24" screen that way

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Clothes were mostly in handbag lol

fleet canopy Sep 15, 2019, 3:06 PM

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kek

rancid thorn Sep 15, 2019, 3:06 PM

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Who needs clothes

late sorrel Sep 15, 2019, 4:22 PM

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https://wccftech.com/amd-zen-3-ryzen-epyc-cpus-and-rdna-2-radeon-rx-gpus-2020-launch/amp/

late sorrel Sep 16, 2019, 9:50 PM

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https://www.pcworld.com/article/3438836/sapphire-nitro-radeon-rx-5700-xt-review.amp.html?__twitter_impression=true

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holy shit

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nitro boost is out there

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like, within 10 frames more

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on fucking 4K

bronze cloak Sep 16, 2019, 9:54 PM

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wat am I seeing

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This isn’t any ordinary overclock

late sorrel Sep 16, 2019, 10:03 PM

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yeah

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this is sapphire going gamer mode

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TRIXX is a small dip on standard resolutions

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That then uses Radeon Image Sharpening to make it look like it’s 4k again

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so I can use this on my 570 too, due to support for RIS

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Only downside is that it’s only available for DX12, DX9, and Vulcan games, so I’ll have to remember that

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I mean, I usually play 1080p anyway, so it’s just sqeezin out some more frames

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But yeah, with this jiggling of resolutions about, you can get similar performance to the 2080 Super on 2k, and better on 4k

fiery nacelle Sep 17, 2019, 11:45 AM

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Static resolution scaling

north bronze Sep 17, 2019, 12:28 PM

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Heeeey

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Decided I wanted to go with an RTX 2070 Super for my build

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and uh watercooling instead of a normal fan

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is the Corsair H100i RGB Platinum good?

bronze cloak Sep 17, 2019, 12:33 PM

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Definitely

rancid thorn Sep 17, 2019, 2:54 PM

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Watercooling is overrated, change my mind

late sorrel Sep 17, 2019, 2:54 PM

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^^^^^

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you don't need to watercool your 2070S

rancid thorn Sep 17, 2019, 2:55 PM

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And in some cases it's worse than regular cooling

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And well, in that sense the big noctua with 2 or 3 fans and huge radiator is better than any watercooling for much cheaper even though it's still quite expensive. The only use of water cool is for very small case where you can't fit properly sized radiators

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But well, it looks cool so if you're into that go for it

pallid cedar Sep 17, 2019, 3:13 PM

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the best AIO watercooling is typically worse than the best air cooling.
Watercooling is for aesthetics/small form factor

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Now, if you have a well designed custom loop, it can potentially get better cooling than air/AIO. But custom loops are $$$ and can take up quite a bit of space

bronze cloak Sep 17, 2019, 3:35 PM

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With water cooling there aren’t really any heat spikes when you go under load so that’s something.

north bronze Sep 17, 2019, 3:36 PM

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I want to watercool the Ryzen 3900X I've got in the build @late sorrel

late sorrel Sep 17, 2019, 6:18 PM

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ah

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well

bronze cloak Sep 17, 2019, 7:17 PM

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I mean, I’d still recommend a Noctua or Dark Rock Pro 4 over an AIO if you’re looking for performance.

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Even a normal Dark Rock 4 if RAM compatibility is a concern

north bronze Sep 17, 2019, 7:19 PM

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hmm ok

pallid cedar Sep 17, 2019, 8:10 PM

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what? Water still gets hotter under load

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the cpu is what causes the spikes

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I will forever suggest Noctua

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cpu gets hot, water pulls heat away from cpu.
cpu gets hot, air blows hot air away from cpu.
Both get spikes under load

kind sparrow Sep 17, 2019, 8:13 PM

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https://youtu.be/yI51L_hESr4

dense wasp Sep 17, 2019, 9:03 PM

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+1 for the noctua

fleet canopy Sep 17, 2019, 11:15 PM

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Kek

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Maybe I’ll also go for a 2070 Super or 2060 super

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Even though I noticed 5700 XT became better than 2070 Super by 2-5% in userbencmark, and will continue to improve

late sorrel Sep 17, 2019, 11:17 PM

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hnng

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it is better

fleet canopy Sep 17, 2019, 11:17 PM

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It’s just I noticed most of he games I want to get has RTX lmao

late sorrel Sep 17, 2019, 11:17 PM

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Oh

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then go crazy

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NVIDIA fanboy smh

fleet canopy Sep 17, 2019, 11:18 PM

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Hah

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At least I’m still gonna get a 3600

fiery nacelle Sep 17, 2019, 11:18 PM

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air coolers also have better longevity than water coolers / AIO

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a fair amount of water coolers / AIO will gunk up and degrade after just 2 to 3 years

fleet canopy Sep 17, 2019, 11:32 PM

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Now it’s not because I like NoVideo more

late sorrel Sep 17, 2019, 11:32 PM

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I mean

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RTX

fleet canopy Sep 17, 2019, 11:33 PM

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True

late sorrel Sep 17, 2019, 11:33 PM

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I get it

fleet canopy Sep 17, 2019, 11:33 PM

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But isn’t AMD also getting their own better ray tracing?

late sorrel Sep 17, 2019, 11:33 PM

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Soon

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maybe

fleet canopy Sep 17, 2019, 11:33 PM

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Kek

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I’ll have to see then

sick reef Sep 18, 2019, 5:09 AM

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If I just place delta's on my watercooling, the dissipation and heat transfer will beat any air setup.

But speaking in terms of high end, there is no heatplate large enough to dissipate better than a radiator. On more mid-tier, then accumilation and heat generation could more likely be equal.

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You'd need a damn large heatsink to cool 14 core sufficiently without accumilation under load.

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Speaking Intel, obviously.

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Makes me think that maybe you'd be able to make a heatsink into a water circulation and radiator. forsenThink It'd eat space, but also spikes.

fiery nacelle Sep 18, 2019, 12:06 PM

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most tower coolers rely on phase change cooling

bronze cloak Sep 18, 2019, 12:25 PM

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I mean isn’t that the whole thing with heat pipes

fiery nacelle Sep 18, 2019, 12:53 PM

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yep

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biggest 2 advantages of AIO setups is reduced stress on the motherboard, and compatibility or aesthetics

abstract kite Sep 18, 2019, 12:55 PM

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and breathing for the other components

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(gpu mainly)

fiery nacelle Sep 18, 2019, 12:55 PM

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however those VRMs and memory may have less airflow over them

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I still prefer large downdraft coolers with heatpipes

abstract kite Sep 18, 2019, 12:56 PM

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hardtubed watercooling is better than aio, right

fiery nacelle Sep 18, 2019, 12:57 PM

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A rig with an AIO and GPU mounted separately and connected via PCIe riser, with no hard disks has the least risk of damage during transportation

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internal damage that is

sick reef Sep 18, 2019, 12:58 PM

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forsenThink I guess that's a good thing

fiery nacelle Sep 18, 2019, 12:58 PM

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no giant tower cooler to overstress the motherboard when shaken, no risk of heavy GPU breaking off the PCIe slot

abstract kite Sep 18, 2019, 12:58 PM

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a rig casted into epoxy has the least risk of damage

sick reef Sep 18, 2019, 12:58 PM

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That is true

fiery nacelle Sep 18, 2019, 12:58 PM

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cooling tho

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I thought one could "pot" the boards for enhanced resistance against water and static?

abstract kite Sep 18, 2019, 12:58 PM

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cooling stats: -50
armor: +3

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:D

sick reef Sep 18, 2019, 12:59 PM

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But I that GPU and AIO, and watercooled CPU, meaning very little weight to the MB. But I think my water pipes is forcing the MB towards the back wall, and the radiator towards the metal cage that sits on the opposite side.

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I mean, it's structural strength.

fiery nacelle Sep 18, 2019, 1:00 PM

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oh you have a custom loop?

sick reef Sep 18, 2019, 1:00 PM

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Yeah, with hard piping.

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I had to, though.

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No room for Air cooler, very filled inside, and a lot of cooling needed.

fiery nacelle Sep 18, 2019, 1:02 PM

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ah I see

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if only we could fill up cooling loops with some kind of alcohol instead of water

sick reef Sep 18, 2019, 1:02 PM

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I think I've shown it, but the tower is a modified HP Proliant M370 G1 Tower.

fiery nacelle Sep 18, 2019, 1:02 PM

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but the poor heat capacity and low vaporization point of alcohol...

abstract kite Sep 18, 2019, 1:03 PM

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you can use another liquid with a lower boiling point tho

sick reef Sep 18, 2019, 1:03 PM

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Use gallium

abstract kite Sep 18, 2019, 1:03 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyKIZPuepl8

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this kind of liquid

dusty pumice Sep 18, 2019, 1:03 PM

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Just sink ur pc in an aqaurium build

sick reef Sep 18, 2019, 1:04 PM

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Isn't that just non-conductive oil?

dusty pumice Sep 18, 2019, 1:04 PM

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yeah it is

fiery nacelle Sep 18, 2019, 1:04 PM

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yuck

abstract kite Sep 18, 2019, 1:05 PM

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they don't want to tell what it is, but my bet is an organic compound (like mineral oil, but lighter)

sick reef Sep 18, 2019, 1:05 PM

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Yeah.

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Apparently a work mate had a friend who did one of those builds.

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Was quite easy once you could contain it.

fiery nacelle Sep 18, 2019, 1:06 PM

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heavy though

sick reef Sep 18, 2019, 1:06 PM

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Absolutely.

fiery nacelle Sep 18, 2019, 1:07 PM

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I have the ultimate cooling fluid

dusty pumice Sep 18, 2019, 1:07 PM

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I have (working on one) at the moment stil have like 12 gallons of the mineral oil in a large container

fiery nacelle Sep 18, 2019, 1:07 PM

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that doesn't remotely compare to this fluid

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it is expensive though

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for what it does

abstract kite Sep 18, 2019, 1:08 PM

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synthetic diamond has the best conductivity

fiery nacelle Sep 18, 2019, 1:08 PM

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https://belledelphine.club/product/gamergirl-bath-water/

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put this in custom loop for the win

abstract kite Sep 18, 2019, 1:08 PM

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someone already made BDBW cooling

fiery nacelle Sep 18, 2019, 1:09 PM

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BDBW?

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oh

abstract kite Sep 18, 2019, 1:09 PM

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fiery nacelle Sep 18, 2019, 1:09 PM

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belle delphine bath water

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DAMN

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wait

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I don't get it

dusty pumice Sep 18, 2019, 1:09 PM

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Not that expansive either great deal

fiery nacelle Sep 18, 2019, 1:10 PM

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if her bathwater itself sells for $250

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Shouldn't the AIO sell for much much more?

dusty pumice Sep 18, 2019, 1:10 PM

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Might have to refill it with some of your own sweat

fiery nacelle Sep 18, 2019, 1:10 PM

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See the secret of her AIO

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is the herpes virus kills off all the fungus and mold that might usually grow in a normal AIO

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LOL

abstract kite Sep 18, 2019, 1:11 PM

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£130 is not $130

dusty pumice Sep 18, 2019, 1:12 PM

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£130 isnt close to $250 tho

fiery nacelle Sep 18, 2019, 1:12 PM

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Euro tax

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haha

sick reef Sep 18, 2019, 1:13 PM

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Rather money tax than social tax

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monkaWUT

dusty pumice Sep 18, 2019, 1:14 PM

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Weird normally we have some E-Janitor come in here and tells us to switch channels but i guess that doesnt happen anymore now lmfao

fiery nacelle Sep 18, 2019, 1:14 PM

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Never in our wildest dreams did we anticipate custom RX 5700 XTs to fully release before the GTFO Alpha

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Would the Alpha come before the release of Threadripper 3?

dusty pumice Sep 18, 2019, 1:15 PM

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Oh its kinda obvious it would after they delayed it 3 times already

fiery nacelle Sep 18, 2019, 1:15 PM

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or do we get to see B550 motherboards before GTFO Alpha - SURE HOPE NOT

dusty pumice Sep 18, 2019, 1:16 PM

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Sam u know if they said alpha would be 2019 or nah?

fiery nacelle Sep 18, 2019, 1:16 PM

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shouldn't it be in like 2019?

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Expecting September tho

dusty pumice Sep 18, 2019, 1:16 PM

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September lmfao

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Shits almost over

fiery nacelle Sep 18, 2019, 1:16 PM

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ok I guess it is October

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haha

dusty pumice Sep 18, 2019, 1:17 PM

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Gonna see u back here in a month and see you type out the same information you did this month

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Gotta wish for it to arrive in your sock @ christmas

fiery nacelle Sep 18, 2019, 1:17 PM

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well the bright side is this...

dusty pumice Sep 18, 2019, 1:17 PM

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Might come out before next chinese new year

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Whats the bright side we gonna have enough potatos to eat during christmas when it releases?

fiery nacelle Sep 18, 2019, 1:18 PM

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If it releases after AMD B550 chipset, Ryzen 5 3500 6c/6t and Radeon RX 5600 series, at least a whole bunch of people can get ready budget systems for its release

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haha

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AMD should really have launched the B550 chipsets this month instead of the long wait till 2020

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at least mid Q4 2019

dusty pumice Sep 18, 2019, 1:21 PM

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I cant wait for black friday

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and cyber monday

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Might stock up again on some shit

fiery nacelle Sep 18, 2019, 1:40 PM

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RAM?

bronze cloak Sep 18, 2019, 3:44 PM

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I’m planning on getting the 5700 XT Nitro on one of those days.

late sorrel Sep 18, 2019, 4:19 PM

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yay

bronze cloak Sep 18, 2019, 4:58 PM

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Sexy-ass lookin badass performin graphics card

late sorrel Sep 18, 2019, 6:38 PM

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5700xt

bronze cloak Sep 18, 2019, 7:13 PM

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Eww icky blower

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Mmm sexy Nitro

fleet canopy Sep 18, 2019, 9:10 PM

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Kek

fiery nacelle Sep 18, 2019, 10:20 PM

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I had hoped the RX 5700XT Nitro+ would have crammed in 2x100mm fans in a slightly shorter form factor instead of the 3x various sized fans

pallid cedar Sep 19, 2019, 2:25 AM

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better to have them go with more surface area of the heatsink spread across 3 fans, better cooling

bronze cloak Sep 19, 2019, 2:28 AM

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Personally I’m a fan of 3 fan coolers over 2

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~~Mostly for looks but whatever~~

fiery nacelle Sep 19, 2019, 12:32 PM

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but it looks sooo long

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a 2 fan cards has "elegant" proportions

bronze cloak Sep 19, 2019, 12:37 PM

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I like long shlong cards. One of the reasons I went with the Strix RX 580 xD

pallid cedar Sep 19, 2019, 3:17 PM

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the difference of like 60-80mm doesn't make much difference to me visually. Fit better in a smaller case, sure.

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but my case could fit the biggest gpu ever created I think lol

pallid cedar Sep 19, 2019, 3:46 PM

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for the most part you won't see the fan side of the gpu anyways, unless you have an alternate GPU mount

fiery nacelle Sep 19, 2019, 4:37 PM

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Wished there was some official ATX spec of supporting the other side of the GPU to counter sag and stress on the motherboard, especially when transporting

pallid cedar Sep 19, 2019, 8:46 PM

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fishing line works really well

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and hard to see

fiery nacelle Sep 20, 2019, 5:56 PM

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abstract kite Sep 20, 2019, 6:17 PM

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That's pretty ridiculous

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I heard good and bad things about their new cards off the info I read and was told. I'm planning my next build for next Christmas, so I'll plan around Nvidia if they're still doing good at high end and a high end Intel, although they've been slacking recently.

fiery nacelle Sep 20, 2019, 6:46 PM

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Both will continue to slack and worse if we continue buying into them

sick reef Sep 20, 2019, 8:07 PM

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And, of course, AMD, if they dethrone any of the two.

fiery nacelle Sep 20, 2019, 8:24 PM

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probably not likely to happen anytime

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AMD is far too small

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whatever seemingly positive news being touted around, hardware for custom built desktop markets is a SMALL slice of the market

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when compared to OEM desktops, enterprise, servers, machine learning, professionals, and laptops (gaming and normal consumer)

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where Intel and Nvidia have established SIGNIFICANT inertia, support, goodwill / branding and ecosystems

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if Zen 2 based EPYC can result in AMD quadrupling their sales for servers - all it just means is going from 2.9% in Q1 2019 to 11.6% market share next year...

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IF THAT HAPPENS

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Pro GPU market share is probably also as skewered to Nvidia

dense wasp Sep 20, 2019, 9:48 PM

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man.
I just want a big ass screen, with 4 inputs and Picture In Picture

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why is that not a thing? haha

fleet canopy Sep 20, 2019, 9:49 PM

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kek

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Well there's a 65" 4K TV and I think it's at 144Hz?

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Or just 60Hz

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Because nothing ever will run 4K 144Hz

dense wasp Sep 20, 2019, 10:15 PM

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I wouldn't mind 60hz,
I just want my 4 computers to one big monitor, to play GTFO by myself on..

fleet canopy Sep 20, 2019, 10:15 PM

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lol

dense wasp Sep 20, 2019, 10:15 PM

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would make my testing life a lot easier

fleet canopy Sep 20, 2019, 10:15 PM

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But don't you wanna have it smooth?

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kek

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I see

void perch Sep 20, 2019, 10:15 PM

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why play alone when you could release the game and play with the entire community? DrifterHmm

dense wasp Sep 20, 2019, 10:16 PM

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I got screens everywhere here now

fleet canopy Sep 20, 2019, 10:16 PM

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lol oof

dense wasp Sep 20, 2019, 10:16 PM

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It's just annoying

fleet canopy Sep 20, 2019, 10:16 PM

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Yeah I get what you mean

dense wasp Sep 20, 2019, 10:16 PM

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haha, fair enough d0c,

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I could get 4 of the same screen and just wallmount them..

void perch Sep 20, 2019, 10:17 PM

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you know, i would like to see someone attempt to solo the game by playing 4 characters at once by themselves

fleet canopy Sep 20, 2019, 10:17 PM

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Yes

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That'd be epic

dense wasp Sep 20, 2019, 10:20 PM

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haha, as a true gamer does

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Maybe I should get 2 of those 49" super wide and just put them ontop of eachother.

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If I could afford them, which I can't

fleet canopy Sep 20, 2019, 10:26 PM

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kek

fiery nacelle Sep 21, 2019, 2:13 AM

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https://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-43UD79-B-4k-uhd-led-monitor

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@dense wasp

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https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/lg/43ud79-b

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My thoughts on the monitor:

Would be nice for a 50-inch version (split into 4 x 25" 1080p display)
Limited to 60Hz only - would be nice if they could get like 75Hz out of it
They should provide 4x DisplayPort as well, in addition to the 4x HDMI
The Freesync adaptive sync range is quite useless, at 56 to 61Hz, should be expanded to probs 40 to 60 or 75Hz

fleet canopy Sep 21, 2019, 2:27 AM

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Well

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With those additions

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It'll be more expensive as hell

fiery nacelle Sep 21, 2019, 4:28 AM

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If they charge USD 1k, it'll still be a good deal I suppose

fleet canopy Sep 21, 2019, 4:28 AM

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Wut

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How

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And why

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lol

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With how insane 4K is

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I wouldn't imagine it 1K

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Like more beyond

fiery nacelle Sep 21, 2019, 4:57 AM

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It's cheap these days

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a 43" IPS 4K monitor can be had for less than USD 700

fleet canopy Sep 21, 2019, 4:58 AM

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500-700$ for a monitor

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:)

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No way in the world would I do that

fiery nacelle Sep 21, 2019, 4:59 AM

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Mine is a 27" 4K with a 10-bit IPS panel

fleet canopy Sep 21, 2019, 4:59 AM

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I know it's kind of normal for how they are

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But

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No way will I pay

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That much for

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Monitor

fiery nacelle Sep 21, 2019, 4:59 AM

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Costed me USD 350 including sales tax and courier by flight

pallid cedar Sep 21, 2019, 6:21 AM

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https://dell.to/2ks9Rmr

dense wasp Sep 21, 2019, 8:55 AM

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@fiery nacelle yeah I did see that while browsing around actually, Will look into it more

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Philips BDM4350UC also seems to do it

fiery nacelle Sep 21, 2019, 9:06 AM

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oh there's a review on PC Monitors for the Philips

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https://pcmonitors.info/reviews/philips-bdm4350uc/

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Wonder why can't manufacturers just make a 49" or larger variant of these type of hybrid productivity / entertainment monitors

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Another downside to these 4 in 1 monitors I suppose is the moderate-high input lag (probs due to input / signal processing and splitting the screen)

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Interesting...

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RTings measured the input lag of the LG model at 10ms (in-house instrumented test)
PC Monitors measured the input lag of the Philips model at 28ms (using SMTT 2.0)

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Ok to compare both...

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Taking 1 model (Viewsonic XG2402) that was reviewed by both PC monitors and RTings

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For the Viewsonic XG2402
RTings measured input lag at 4.1ms for 144Hz mode and 8.8ms for 60Hz mode
PC Monitors measured input lag at 3.16ms for 144Hz mode and 11.74ms for 60Hz mode

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Quite comparable I guess

dense wasp Sep 21, 2019, 9:29 AM

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yeah that's interesting

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for me it would be more for playing GTFO by myself, then doing actual gaming on it

sick reef Sep 21, 2019, 11:23 AM

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G2G or average? deusthonk

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Maybe tftcentral has done a review.

fleet canopy Sep 23, 2019, 1:21 AM

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What's a good AMD CPU that doesn't need to be overclocked? For a friend

late sorrel Sep 23, 2019, 1:27 AM

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err

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iirc the 3700X is good

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with the inbuilt boosting

fleet canopy Sep 23, 2019, 1:30 AM

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Ahem

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Without being too expensive as well

late sorrel Sep 23, 2019, 1:33 AM

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I’ve heard that the 3400g is okay

fleet canopy Sep 23, 2019, 1:33 AM

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Alright

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Well

late sorrel Sep 23, 2019, 1:33 AM

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As well as if you can get a 2600

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for cheaper

fleet canopy Sep 23, 2019, 1:33 AM

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A GPU is also paired in

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Alr

late sorrel Sep 23, 2019, 1:34 AM

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So you don’t need an APU?

fleet canopy Sep 23, 2019, 1:34 AM

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No APU is needed

late sorrel Sep 23, 2019, 1:35 AM

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then if you have a micro center

fleet canopy Sep 23, 2019, 1:35 AM

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The guy mainly wants to play

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Like

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CSGO, uhh

late sorrel Sep 23, 2019, 1:35 AM

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get an 2600 w/mobo with their deal

fleet canopy Sep 23, 2019, 1:35 AM

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idk

late sorrel Sep 23, 2019, 1:35 AM

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because

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I got my 2600 and a tomahawk for 200

fleet canopy Sep 23, 2019, 1:36 AM

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No need for a cooler, that's just for OC right?

late sorrel Sep 23, 2019, 1:55 AM

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yeah

fleet canopy Sep 23, 2019, 2:01 AM

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Alright

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Any good choice on GPU?

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Can't be too expensive as well

late sorrel Sep 23, 2019, 2:16 AM

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RX570/580?

fleet canopy Sep 23, 2019, 2:17 AM

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A 590 couldn't hurt, could it?

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I'm really considering either 8GB or 4GB

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And the price difference is about 100$

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:)

late sorrel Sep 23, 2019, 2:19 AM

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idk

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590 isn’t as well worth the cash

fleet canopy Sep 23, 2019, 2:20 AM

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kek alr

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Now 8GB on 580 is 290

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4GB 190$

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:)

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What

late sorrel Sep 23, 2019, 2:23 AM

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yeah

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8gb is needed

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If you can get a 590, go for it

fleet canopy Sep 23, 2019, 2:24 AM

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That's damn expensive lmao

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580 and 590 is 60$

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dif

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590 is 50$ cheaper somehow

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Well then

late sorrel Sep 23, 2019, 2:27 AM

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I mean

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8gb > 4GB

fleet canopy Sep 23, 2019, 2:27 AM

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Yeah

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6GB > 3GB for a 1060

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First time I started up batman Arkham knight

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The whole setting was set to low

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Because medium went over 3GB

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:)

late sorrel Sep 23, 2019, 2:31 AM

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mood

fleet canopy Sep 23, 2019, 2:33 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7XrCmg

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Currently what I got together kek

late sorrel Sep 23, 2019, 2:49 AM

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Don’t forget that the “4GB” for the GPU is only used for textures

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That looks good mayo!

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Don’t forget some fans!

fleet canopy Sep 23, 2019, 2:50 AM

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Oh yeah lol

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Any good cheap ones?

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I'm trying not to go over 800 euros

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/43hrx6

pallid cedar Sep 23, 2019, 3:39 AM

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looks good.
Make sure you put the fans that come with the case at the front as intakes, as the front of the H500 doesn't get the best airflow anyways.
Put your Noctuas on the top and back as exhaust

fiery nacelle Sep 23, 2019, 11:37 AM

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@fleet canopy The rx 590 isn't worth it at that price, since one can get a GTX 1660 for the same price that performs slightly better for significantly less power consumption

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And if your friend is mostly playing esports like titles like CSGO at 1080p then the rx 580 or rx 570 4gb is viable at much cheaper prices than the rx 590

fleet canopy Sep 23, 2019, 11:39 AM

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Yeah

fiery nacelle Sep 23, 2019, 11:43 AM

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rx 590 is 70% more expensive than the rx 570 for only like 25% better performance

fleet canopy Sep 23, 2019, 11:46 AM

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What about a 580?

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There’s an 8 GB one for a little less than 200

fiery nacelle Sep 23, 2019, 12:17 PM

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about 179 or so right?

fleet canopy Sep 23, 2019, 12:18 PM

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Yeah

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Something like that

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Now I must go to school and process thoughts

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Bye

urban gulch Sep 23, 2019, 12:21 PM

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Goodbye fellow mayroo.

fleet canopy Sep 23, 2019, 7:09 PM

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Hello fellow pupper

sinful cobalt Sep 23, 2019, 7:17 PM

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RX 56 > RX 580, RX 590 is tresh

dense wasp Sep 24, 2019, 5:55 PM

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Anyone familiar with the ”win10 repair loop”?

Tried freshly installed Windows on a computer at the Office, with two different hdds. So annoying

hexed horizon Sep 24, 2019, 6:01 PM

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Linux

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Should fix that

urban gulch Sep 24, 2019, 6:02 PM

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yeah it's the recovery partition that's not correct anymore @dense wasp

dense wasp Sep 24, 2019, 6:02 PM

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Naw, shouldn’t be, I switched the drives completely

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And did a complete wipe, and recreated the partitions..

abstract kite Sep 24, 2019, 6:03 PM

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Is anything wrong in bios?

dense wasp Sep 24, 2019, 6:03 PM

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I did upgrade that as well, no luck so far 🤷🏻‍♂️

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Update*

urban gulch Sep 24, 2019, 6:03 PM

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Oh, check the bios for windows 10 support

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or windows 7 installation button and turn it on

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My motherboard did that as well, after turning that on, it actually worked

abstract kite Sep 24, 2019, 6:04 PM

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I had linux and windows dual booted and I had to make sure the main drive was the one booting

dense wasp Sep 24, 2019, 6:04 PM

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Yeah, thing is, computer worked fine, then it just died,

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Has worked perfect for 3-4 years.

abstract kite Sep 24, 2019, 6:04 PM

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Oh

urban gulch Sep 24, 2019, 6:05 PM

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oh damn

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computer life am i right 😉

abstract kite Sep 24, 2019, 6:05 PM

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I had to reset everything recently due to stutter, but my computer didn't just die

urban gulch Sep 24, 2019, 6:05 PM

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Do you see "Preparing Automatic Repair" the whole time?

abstract kite Sep 24, 2019, 6:06 PM

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and to be honest people above will probably be more helpful than I can be.

urban gulch Sep 24, 2019, 6:08 PM

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@dense wasp

try to go to the troubleshoot menu of windows 10, by holding shift when it starts i think,

go to troubleshoot -> advanced options -> command prompt

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In the command line, enter: C: cd Windows\System32\LogFiles\Srt. SrtTrail.txt

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if you see something with the vsock.sys is corrupt, go to that file and delete it

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3 other command line options:

bootrec.exe /rebuildbcd

bootrec.exe /fixmbr

bootrec.exe /fixboot

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don't have other options atm :p

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and check if the bios resets itself, battery could be dead

hexed horizon Sep 24, 2019, 6:15 PM

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Smart people stuff

urban gulch Sep 24, 2019, 6:15 PM

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yis

dense wasp Sep 24, 2019, 6:19 PM

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Yeah, tried that

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No dice

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🤷🏻‍♂️

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I guess some hardware can be broke aswell

void perch Sep 24, 2019, 6:24 PM

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have you tried a fresh os install?

abstract kite Sep 24, 2019, 6:25 PM

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@urban gulch I actually had to do extra commands because fixboot said my disk wasn't there. I had to go online and look for solutions, it was the most frustrating day of my life

urban gulch Sep 24, 2019, 6:28 PM

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yeah he did d0c

void perch Sep 24, 2019, 6:28 PM

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fresh install and it boots to a repair loop?

urban gulch Sep 24, 2019, 6:28 PM

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yeah, thats what i wondered

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but tbh it sounds like bios doesn't allow continuing through it

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.
[8:02 PM] ludvig: Naw, shouldn’t be, I switched the drives completely
[8:02 PM] ludvig: And did a complete wipe, and recreated the partitions..

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or install usb is dead

void perch Sep 24, 2019, 6:29 PM

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yeah could be bios or hw failure somewhere else

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might we worth using a new usb drive with a new iso image (checking md5's match so not a corrupt iso)

urban gulch Sep 24, 2019, 6:30 PM

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or use the tool
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

dense wasp Sep 24, 2019, 8:16 PM

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Yeah, I re-installed windows 4 or 5 times today,, haha

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on 2 different hdds

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and re-did the USB drive once in between as well

dense wasp Sep 24, 2019, 8:33 PM

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also tried new bios.

Guess I'll try another bios version.
May pulling Ram

sick reef Sep 24, 2019, 8:34 PM

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Have you tried any other OS to see if that works at all?

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Or is this some normal Win10 stuff?

dense wasp Sep 24, 2019, 8:42 PM

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Naw, only the win10

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He did use tp have 7 now when i think about it

urban gulch Sep 24, 2019, 8:44 PM

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^^

late sorrel Sep 24, 2019, 10:21 PM

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oof

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that does not sound fun lud🅱ig

urban gulch Sep 24, 2019, 11:15 PM

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is most definitely not

fleet canopy Sep 24, 2019, 11:19 PM

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Heard of the 3500X?

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Supposedly confirmed

rancid thorn Sep 25, 2019, 10:40 AM

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are there ways to fix a pump from an AIO? mine died after a car travel, am buying an air cooler now but if I could fix it it'd be nice

sick reef Sep 25, 2019, 11:28 AM

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Is it the pump itself that is broken?

north bronze Sep 25, 2019, 11:47 AM

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Heey need some help for a dev buddy, his pc turns on and then off after 1 second

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Except: when he unplugs the CPU power cable

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tried clearing CMOS, tried running with no RAM, none of that works

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Update: not even one second, he hits power, fans barely move like they got shocked and it stops

sick reef Sep 25, 2019, 12:05 PM

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So he has tried only powering the MB alone?

urban gulch Sep 25, 2019, 12:06 PM

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@north bronze Please remove the CPU and check if the PINS on the motherboard and cpu are as they should be.

north bronze Sep 25, 2019, 12:10 PM

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plug pins you mean or the CPU's @urban gulch

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@sick reef we'll try that

urban gulch Sep 25, 2019, 12:11 PM

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If you remove the CPU, you'll see pins on the motherboard and depending on the age, on the cpu you'll see either little pins or copper stripes

north bronze Sep 25, 2019, 12:15 PM

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Aight

urban gulch Sep 25, 2019, 12:16 PM

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even if 1 of the million pins is bent, it won't work as they should be anymore

sick reef Sep 25, 2019, 12:17 PM

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Generally, it start in a failsafe mode if that happens, but I guess it depends on CPU.

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And MB.

#

Would also depend on how it happens

#

Accidentally got silicone on one of my CPU contacts when putting my PC together, and kept on wondering why it locked all clocks to 1200MHz

fleet canopy Sep 25, 2019, 12:24 PM

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Oof

north bronze Sep 25, 2019, 12:56 PM

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pins look good @urban gulch

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uh actually one sec

urban gulch Sep 25, 2019, 1:01 PM

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be sure to look extra good, they should look 100% good, like i said one pin wrong and it's all done

north bronze Sep 25, 2019, 1:01 PM

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we're double checking something that looks odd

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these weird pins bottom left @urban gulch

📎 unknown.png

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they uh don't look good right

urban gulch Sep 25, 2019, 1:02 PM

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yep, pins broke

dense wasp Sep 25, 2019, 1:02 PM

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ouch

#

urban gulch Sep 25, 2019, 1:03 PM

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i knew it :P
had same problem 2 weeks ago, but on the motherboard

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F

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it's on the motherboard right? just get a new motherboard

north bronze Sep 25, 2019, 1:04 PM

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question is

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where are the pins

urban gulch Sep 25, 2019, 1:04 PM

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hmm?

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you sent a picture XD

north bronze Sep 25, 2019, 1:04 PM

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well i mean the missing pins

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they can't be in the cpu right?

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just to be sure haha

urban gulch Sep 25, 2019, 1:04 PM

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no, they don't stick in

north bronze Sep 25, 2019, 1:04 PM

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aight phew

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well new mobo time I guess

urban gulch Sep 25, 2019, 1:05 PM

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i had missing pins as well, don't worry aboot it

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yep

#

life of a self-made computer 🤷

north bronze Sep 25, 2019, 1:05 PM

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big rip

urban gulch Sep 25, 2019, 1:06 PM

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as long as the motherboard has the broken pins, and not the cpu, you'll be fine :p

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better spend 100$ than 300+$

north bronze Sep 25, 2019, 1:07 PM

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yeah

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CPU's fine

urban gulch Sep 25, 2019, 1:07 PM

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noice

#

i had a spare i7 6700 as well, with a motherboard, both from a friend who didn't need it
work needed a new pc, so i brought the stuff, and somehow pins broke without taking off the cpu

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so weird things happen i guess 🤷

sick reef Sep 25, 2019, 1:11 PM

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Even small bumps can damage these stuff.

north bronze Sep 25, 2019, 1:22 PM

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He's getting it replaced by Amazon

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Thanks for the help @urban gulch ^^

urban gulch Sep 25, 2019, 1:23 PM

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np x3

north bronze Sep 25, 2019, 1:23 PM

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On a side note, I've decided to go for an RTX 2070 Super instead of a 5700XT

#

Is this one good? https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/product/Gbvqqs/msi-geforce-rtx-2070-super-8-gb-gaming-x-trio-video-card-rtx-2070-super-gaming-x-trio

urban gulch Sep 25, 2019, 1:24 PM

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yis

north bronze Sep 25, 2019, 1:25 PM

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yas

north bronze Sep 25, 2019, 1:58 PM

#

do computer parts go on sale near christmas?

sick reef Sep 25, 2019, 1:58 PM

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Some do, yeah

urban gulch Sep 25, 2019, 1:58 PM

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Probably not all, but what labcat said.

sick reef Sep 25, 2019, 1:58 PM

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Also random flash sales, and/or autumn sale

north bronze Sep 25, 2019, 1:59 PM

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yeah

urban gulch Sep 25, 2019, 1:59 PM

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probably also summer sale

fleet canopy Sep 25, 2019, 6:26 PM

#

I mean, if you want the ray tracing and it’s available on most games you’re looking forward to/already have, then totally go for it

#

But if not, get 5700 XT. I remember seeing a bit of a gain on that card beating the 2070 S

late sorrel Sep 25, 2019, 10:16 PM

#

there is a gain on 4k and 2k over the 2060S

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Especially being 100usd cheaper

sick reef Sep 26, 2019, 7:07 AM

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If you want raytracing I'd recommend waiting 4-5 years.

sinful cobalt Sep 26, 2019, 9:48 AM

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Is 1440p better than 1080p?

abstract kite Sep 26, 2019, 9:49 AM

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yes

fiery nacelle Sep 26, 2019, 11:27 AM

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what's the catch

sick reef Sep 26, 2019, 11:29 AM

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With 1440p? More demanding.

sinful cobalt Sep 26, 2019, 11:29 AM

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Is 1080p looking noticably worse when displaying on 1440p display?

sick reef Sep 26, 2019, 11:30 AM

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It's a noticeable difference between them, yes.

fiery nacelle Sep 26, 2019, 11:34 AM

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ah, a resolution that is different from the native resolution of an LCD/LED screen will look noticeably worse

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the bigger the difference, the worse it'll look

#

Such that 1080p on a 27" Full HD panel will look better than 1080p on a 27" Quad HD panel

fleet canopy Sep 26, 2019, 11:42 AM

#

1440p is pricey as hell if you’d rather not pay 300 for a monitor if you are looking for 144hz

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Mainly if you’re looking to just have 144hz, then get a 1080p 144hz as most of them are 200$ or lower, if it’s 1440p and you don’t mind 60hz, same price for that too

austere frost Sep 26, 2019, 1:05 PM

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I'd pay 800€ for something with a 828p screen

late sorrel Sep 26, 2019, 1:06 PM

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I mean, you get more pixels in the screen

austere frost Sep 26, 2019, 1:06 PM

#

also by the way can I post a pre-built pc here that's on sale?

late sorrel Sep 26, 2019, 1:06 PM

#

the hertzage is important in gaming

austere frost Sep 26, 2019, 1:06 PM

#

I was joking, but if you had to pick go for 24' 144hz 1080p screens

#

resolution plays a big role in frames per second, and fps are really important in almost every game

#

important in 99% of multiplayer games

#

find yourselves a sale for ~200€ or less and you'll see it was worth it

rancid thorn Sep 26, 2019, 2:48 PM

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I totally forgot I asked a question here yesterday and just remembered it. @sick reef sry mate. Yeah the pump is broken I know it because the water is clearly not moving. Heat just stays on one spot and spreads slowly only by natural heat transfer through the water. But I got an air cooler now so everything's fine I guess

sick reef Sep 26, 2019, 3:03 PM

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I guess so.

#

The pump itself is rarely fixable, since one can't get replacements, as far as I know.

pallid cedar Sep 26, 2019, 3:20 PM

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I've said it before and I'll say it again: Water cooling sucks lol

#

the best air cooling is better than water, and is far less of a hassle

shy comet Sep 26, 2019, 3:22 PM

#

tehbawYOU

rancid thorn Sep 26, 2019, 3:58 PM

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I'm aware that watercooling sucks, problem is I bought that shit before I understood it, so a few years ago

sick reef Sep 26, 2019, 4:30 PM

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The best aircooling is not better than water. AIO, perhaps, but the scale of watercooling can not be matched by air. Less of hassle, though, that is given.

#

Obviously counting performance-wise. There are drawbacks, as investment, and planning, to water.

#

Oh, and longevity, and sensitivity. But even a dusted up aircooler will BSOD.

dense wasp Sep 26, 2019, 4:39 PM

#

Still can’t get the pcs at the office to run, starting to think it’s the mobo.
I even reinstalled win7 to see if the bios likes that better, but still endless repair loop

#

And another one where I’ve got 100% disk usage 🤷🏻‍♂️

sick reef Sep 26, 2019, 4:40 PM

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Did you try to flash the bios again on the MB?

dense wasp Sep 26, 2019, 4:40 PM

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Yeah, three Times, different versions 😂

sick reef Sep 26, 2019, 4:40 PM

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And it's only one MB?

#

Or several with the same issue

dense wasp Sep 26, 2019, 4:40 PM

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Only the one

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Using the same in all computers though, damn Z97-a

sick reef Sep 26, 2019, 4:41 PM

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🤔

#

So you have tried several drives as well?

dense wasp Sep 26, 2019, 4:42 PM

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Two, yeah

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One completely new

#

I’m thinking, either the rams toast and just acting up

#

Or the mobi itself

sick reef Sep 26, 2019, 4:43 PM

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Have you switched every part individually?

dense wasp Sep 26, 2019, 4:43 PM

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Just plucked the ram individually

#

That’s the next part

#

Switching gpu, and ram

sick reef Sep 26, 2019, 4:44 PM

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A weird issue that my brother had was constant BSOD and windows wiped off his disk. Turned out his GPU at the time could run, but crashed so hard it took everything with it, as an example.

dense wasp Sep 26, 2019, 4:45 PM

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Yeah

sick reef Sep 26, 2019, 4:46 PM

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That GPU is now a bookrest, but any way. That'd be what I'd try, and if that shows nothing, it's the MB next.

dense wasp Sep 26, 2019, 4:46 PM

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The 100 disk usage hopefully just needs a reinstall of windows

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It’s just plain weird though, going up to 100, then down again, back and forth

sick reef Sep 26, 2019, 4:47 PM

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I have heard of the issue but never experienced it. Really does seem like a programming loop.

dense wasp Sep 26, 2019, 4:47 PM

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Even though nothing is using the disk according to the computer itself

sick reef Sep 26, 2019, 4:47 PM

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Did you try to switch slot for the drive?

#

But yeah, it could just be an endless loop of two things, that then resolve, and then loop again, randomly

dense wasp Sep 26, 2019, 4:48 PM

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Slot switch on what issue?

sick reef Sep 26, 2019, 4:48 PM

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Disk one.

dense wasp Sep 26, 2019, 4:49 PM

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Ah, no

sick reef Sep 26, 2019, 4:50 PM

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I mean I guess you could try it on that MB as well. Take a slot that isn't parallell or similar to the one you regularly use, taking in mind that it could turn off features of the MB.

dense wasp Sep 26, 2019, 4:51 PM

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Yeah, annoying PCs 😉

sick reef Sep 26, 2019, 4:51 PM

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Oh yeah, absolutely.

dense wasp Sep 26, 2019, 4:54 PM

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I built them though soo

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Haha

chrome chasm Sep 26, 2019, 4:54 PM

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All those talk about PC just make me want to upgrade mine ASAP. 😦

#

I
MUST
RESIST!

austere frost Sep 26, 2019, 4:55 PM

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There's a Ryzen R5 and RX 590 deal for 500€ in Germany rn

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can ship to other places afaik, saw it on a spanish page

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I dunno if that's just advertisement so I don't wanna break any rule

chrome chasm Sep 26, 2019, 4:56 PM

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It's not

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But i'm more of a best or nothing guy. Soo it's 2080Ti

urban gulch Sep 26, 2019, 5:37 PM

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"Take out the motherboard and then start the pc"

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also, 2080 ti gaaang, i'm same here, although already got it blobheart

dense wasp Sep 26, 2019, 5:45 PM

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yeah I'm looking forward to building some AMD riggs now

fleet canopy Sep 26, 2019, 7:12 PM

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I think there was an easy fix for 100% disk which needed a program I believe

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I had experienced that only once

pallid cedar Sep 26, 2019, 9:34 PM

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Custom loop watercooling will net you, on average, 3-4 degrees less than Noctua aircooling.
Nowhere near worth the hassle, price, space etc

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vw4HONEkj4s

chrome chasm Sep 26, 2019, 9:38 PM

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Yup, It's in my upgrade plan to get a Noctua aircooling

pallid cedar Sep 26, 2019, 10:01 PM

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I have the Noctua NH-D15 and when rendering a 407GB raw video of 1080p60fps gameplay recording, while still using my pc, it never goes above 68 degrees.
I'm also overclocked

#

as far as I am concerned, air cooling is perfect, and Noctua is KING

late sorrel Sep 26, 2019, 10:02 PM

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^^^

#

AIOs are useless

chrome chasm Sep 26, 2019, 10:13 PM

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Watercooling look cool and give a slighly better performance, but the trouble it bring, I prefer to get a massive Noctua, no matter how ugly it is.

pallid cedar Sep 26, 2019, 10:25 PM

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the slightly better performance is negligible, and the hassle is way too annoying.
Noctua is def massive, but god damn does it deliver

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now I just want Noctua to start investing in color lol

chrome chasm Sep 26, 2019, 10:27 PM

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QFT
now I just want Noctua to start investing in color lol

pallid cedar Sep 26, 2019, 10:31 PM

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haha it's true though, they need to finally get away from the damn greys and tans haha

#

I think they have blacks now that I think about it though

chrome chasm Sep 26, 2019, 10:50 PM

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Better, But I'm trying to build a full clean white tower. Tired of Black.

#

I saw one fully white and it was really good looking.

late sorrel Sep 26, 2019, 10:55 PM

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The issue I have with a white build is GPU

#

There are very few white GPUs

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and mobos are slightly annoying because getting a whitish one is not gamer

chrome chasm Sep 26, 2019, 11:03 PM

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The one I got is white, but the air cooling hide it, and if I upgrade to Noctua, is will take the whole damn space

late sorrel Sep 26, 2019, 11:03 PM

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just paint the noctua

chrome chasm Sep 26, 2019, 11:03 PM

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Yup

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Only the fan

#

Could just buy white fan to put on the noctua

#

But its true I do have to change the mobo. Mine a 6/7 intel gen. Dunno if I go ryzen or intel yet.

#

When I upgrade I just want a cpu that combo well with a 2080Ti and gaming only. Not looking for that ultra 2000$ one

plucky tangle Sep 26, 2019, 11:53 PM

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@chrome chasm use this link and find a good paring you are looking for with a 2080ti. If you are going to buy a stock 2080ti reference card dont overclock it in the link. Otherwise make sure you overclock the gpu by 10% to give yourself a little headway when choosing a cpu. Because most GPU's like zotac overclock cards by like 5% anyway.

https://pc-builds.com/calculator/

chrome chasm Sep 26, 2019, 11:54 PM

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ok thanks

plucky tangle Sep 26, 2019, 11:55 PM

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But I think the only cpu from Intel that isnt bottlenecked is the 9600+ chips. I could be wrong, I'm just a lowly pleb on a 1080ti

chrome chasm Sep 26, 2019, 11:56 PM

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And i'm a 980Ti pleb 😂

plucky tangle Sep 26, 2019, 11:56 PM

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My 980ti is my backup in case anything happens.

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The 8700k works well with the 2080ti, 8% bottleneck

chrome chasm Sep 26, 2019, 11:57 PM

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Not bad. I get more serious into upgrading at the end of the years. A Christmas gift to myself from myself

plucky tangle Sep 26, 2019, 11:59 PM

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I hear ya. Unfortunately I would need to upgrade my mobo, and buy a new cpu to really get an upgrade. Probably faster ram too, but for now, for a 5 year old computer.... it's doing well.

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I7 6700k @ 4.6ghz, GTX 1080ti @20% overclock, 16gigs of 2400hz ram.

patent kite Sep 27, 2019, 1:01 AM

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Bottleneck Calculator does not work correctly, gives only an approximate match😐

urban gulch Sep 27, 2019, 5:31 AM

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@chrome chasm keep in mind, not all games (arma example) work well with AMD, so it depends whatchu gaming for

hexed horizon Sep 27, 2019, 8:25 AM

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This channel is way too active I should mute it but I don't do that

north bronze Sep 27, 2019, 8:25 AM

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oooh boi 3 months and 2 weeks til I'm able to get my new build

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Just to be sure, this means I'll have to buy an adapter right?

- The MSI MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard has an additional 4-pin ATX power connector but the Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply does not. This connector is used to supply additional 12V current to the motherboard. While the system will likely still run without it, higher current demands such as extreme overclocking or large video card current draws may require it.

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Some are saying I don't need it if I don't overclock, is that correct?

sick reef Sep 27, 2019, 9:08 AM

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How can it be fully modular but not have the extra 4 pin?

urban gulch Sep 27, 2019, 9:36 AM

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Not correct @north bronze

System can shut down/hang/stop working if usage is high in general without the 4-pin.

north bronze Sep 27, 2019, 9:50 AM

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AAAAAA

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I need a 4-pin to 8-pin right @urban gulch ?

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orrr I could try to find a PSU with an 8pin

urban gulch Sep 27, 2019, 9:51 AM

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what exactly do you need the pin for?

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if you need an 8pin, 4 pin to 8 pin would work yeah.

north bronze Sep 27, 2019, 9:53 AM

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Well it seems like my motherboard has an 8pin but the power supply only has 4 pins

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oooh

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okay uh correct me if I'm wrong but

urban gulch Sep 27, 2019, 9:54 AM

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i think it's otherway around ThinkAutist

north bronze Sep 27, 2019, 9:54 AM

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it's talking about this additional 4 pin right

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urban gulch Sep 27, 2019, 9:54 AM

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so it needs 8 pin + 4 pin

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you need a 4 pin, not an 8 pin additional

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like it said: "Motherboard has an additional 4-pin ATX power connector but the Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply does not."

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just get a power supply with one i guess

north bronze Sep 27, 2019, 9:56 AM

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looked it up, pc part picker is gonna add support to filter PSUs with that additional 4 pin so I'm gonna wait a little til they do

urban gulch Sep 27, 2019, 9:56 AM

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i mean, just look through all the psu's

north bronze Sep 27, 2019, 9:59 AM

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yeah

urban gulch Sep 27, 2019, 10:00 AM

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would be faster than waiting for someone i guess