#pc-build-help-and-tech-talk | GTFO | Page 30

fleet canopy Aug 17, 2019, 3:49 PM

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The 999$ stand

pallid cedar Aug 17, 2019, 3:49 PM

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OOF

fleet canopy Aug 17, 2019, 3:49 PM

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Perfect example of Apple

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Too damn overpriced

pallid cedar Aug 17, 2019, 3:49 PM

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100%

fleet canopy Aug 17, 2019, 3:49 PM

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Also impossible to get the company to fix your Mac

pallid cedar Aug 17, 2019, 3:49 PM

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I can't speak on that as I have no experience with that stuff

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I've stayed far away from macs

fleet canopy Aug 17, 2019, 3:50 PM

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Because they need the 'Mac Professional Guy' thing

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There is a lot of videos about it lmao

pallid cedar Aug 17, 2019, 3:50 PM

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yeah they have their proprietary repair bs going on

fleet canopy Aug 17, 2019, 3:50 PM

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And all of them was them talking about how they had to get the thing repaired

pallid cedar Aug 17, 2019, 3:50 PM

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brutal

fleet canopy Aug 17, 2019, 3:52 PM

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Like days to weeks of waiting

pallid cedar Aug 17, 2019, 3:52 PM

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lol not as bad as HTC then XD

fleet canopy Aug 17, 2019, 3:52 PM

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lmao

pallid cedar Aug 17, 2019, 3:52 PM

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I've been waiting over a month for a replacement cable

fleet canopy Aug 17, 2019, 3:52 PM

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Oh yeah it was something about 'Genius Bar'

pallid cedar Aug 17, 2019, 3:52 PM

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still not word from them

fleet canopy Aug 17, 2019, 3:52 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MG_NRcy5mxU

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https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=apple+genius+bar

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There's a lot of videos on it

pallid cedar Aug 17, 2019, 3:53 PM

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I'll have to watch that when I get back, just about to leave the house

fleet canopy Aug 17, 2019, 3:53 PM

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It is the most hated thing from Apple I believe

pallid cedar Aug 17, 2019, 3:53 PM

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oh snap, that's a lot of videos hating on them XD lmao

fleet canopy Aug 17, 2019, 3:53 PM

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Yes

pallid cedar Aug 17, 2019, 3:53 PM

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basically every video:
SCAM

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lol

fleet canopy Aug 17, 2019, 3:54 PM

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lmao

sick reef Aug 17, 2019, 4:02 PM

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It's not wrong. They restrict their repair to people who lack competence to do proper repair, and they on top of that try and indoctrinate some kind of consumer guilt into their motto and way. The epitome of all that being "You're holding it the wrong way.", and similar quotes, and other general quips that people who buy into apple repeat ad nauseum.

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Knowing repair, it would be like if I were to do repair on a trailer, but oh no, if I change brake pads, I have to log into the control unit, and check that "Yes, I am certified to do this", or the breaks lock up completely.

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Is it exaggerated, in regards of Apple? In some ways yes, electronics break, they have issues. Some companies have longstanding issues with their electronics simply because they can't/won't change what is wrong due to some reason.
In some ways no, no other company acts like apple, no other company treats its customers like Apple, and no other consumer eats it up like the consumers of apple. People have issues disassociating their preference from what is and is not. Of course so should you be critical of most things, if all. But to see coherency in the evidence of neglect, intentional misguiding, as well as knowningly ignoring/hiding the fallout of this, that is what I see as truly wrong. But Apple has their image to protect, and people take it at face value, because of brand recognition.

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I guess the irony is that the future of repair is very likely moving towards this. Electronic Parking Brakes requiring that you use a program to "unlock" them, etc. But there's workarounds for that.

patent kite Aug 18, 2019, 12:49 AM

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there are assumptions about the minimum requirements?

hexed horizon Aug 18, 2019, 12:50 AM

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For GTFO?

patent kite Aug 18, 2019, 12:50 AM

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yep

hexed horizon Aug 18, 2019, 12:50 AM

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Yes, actually.

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Uhh.

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Couple of months back, ludvig mentioned that he was testing older graphics cards

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One of which was a GTX650

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He said that it ran the game well

patent kite Aug 18, 2019, 12:52 AM

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thx

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I will clarify the issue, recommended requirements

hexed horizon Aug 18, 2019, 12:52 AM

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For a CPU be mentioned the i5-2500k

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Which is fairly old by now

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But modern equivalents should be good

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They said that one of their goals is to make the game very well optimised for older / weaker computers

fleet canopy Aug 18, 2019, 12:54 AM

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Ye

hexed horizon Aug 18, 2019, 12:54 AM

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I'm assuming this is thanks to the Unity engine on one hand

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But basically, the game should run fine on older rigs

patent kite Aug 18, 2019, 12:56 AM

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i5-2500k is old. its true. waiting 10 generation for uprade

hexed horizon Aug 18, 2019, 12:58 AM

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🤠

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It is actually.

patent kite Aug 18, 2019, 12:58 AM

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but .... https://valid.x86.fr/57vif9 😬

hexed horizon Aug 18, 2019, 12:58 AM

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But since it's a K model it kinda holds up still

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5Ghz 👍

patent kite Aug 18, 2019, 1:01 AM

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I temporarily took the GTX1060 to study CPU dependency

late sorrel Aug 18, 2019, 1:16 AM

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I’ve heard from ludvig that the 5670 and the 2500k will get 720p 30fps

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It’s playable, I guess

patent kite Aug 18, 2019, 1:21 AM

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@late sorrel 720p? I thought now there are no monitors less than fullHD 😬

late sorrel Aug 18, 2019, 1:22 AM

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Hell, my 2010 machine still has terrible 1080p monitors

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I kept them when I upgraded my pc

patent kite Aug 18, 2019, 1:27 AM

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@late sorrel just steam stats

📎 stat.PNG

hexed horizon Aug 18, 2019, 1:30 AM

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@late sorrel didn't you get a PC with a 570?

late sorrel Aug 18, 2019, 1:37 AM

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yeah

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It’s just my 1080p one doesn’t have the contrast

hexed horizon Aug 18, 2019, 8:15 AM

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@Larz#6969

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NOOOOOO

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NOOOOOOOOOO

urban gulch Aug 18, 2019, 8:39 AM

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Larz ain’t here anymore

fiery nacelle Aug 18, 2019, 8:59 AM

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Quick, Go Jetters call Ubercorn NOW

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Where are all the black swedish expert mechanics when you need them

sick reef Aug 18, 2019, 10:26 AM

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Larz peepoWhy

dark quarry Aug 18, 2019, 12:54 PM

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Well, in my quest to build a $10,000 rig in PC Building Simulator, I found out what it takes to build a system that scores 20,000 on 3DMark (don't forget to overclock!), however, that rig only came up to $8,900 (i9-9980/SLI RTX 2080 Ti Extreme / 128 GB RAM).

hexed horizon Aug 18, 2019, 12:56 PM

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Pc Building Simulator needs a parody game.
Like Laptop buying simulator

dark quarry Aug 18, 2019, 12:57 PM

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Go ahead and work on that. I'll wait.

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I won't hold my breath while I wait, however. lol

pallid cedar Aug 18, 2019, 1:55 PM

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Steve just use a threadripper build, you'll hit the 10K I'm fairly certain lol

dark quarry Aug 18, 2019, 4:49 PM

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Threadripper only got me to $8,200

late sorrel Aug 18, 2019, 4:49 PM

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double 2080Ti

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You can SLI/whatever it's called now

dark quarry Aug 18, 2019, 4:49 PM

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Already done

late sorrel Aug 18, 2019, 4:50 PM

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oh yeah

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sorry

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grab a xenon?

dark quarry Aug 18, 2019, 4:50 PM

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Just wish prices were listed on free build mode

late sorrel Aug 18, 2019, 4:50 PM

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also you could maybe go titan

dark quarry Aug 18, 2019, 4:51 PM

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RTX 2080 Ti Ultra is latest most expensive GPU in the game, and only a handful of motherboards are capable of two of them.

late sorrel Aug 18, 2019, 4:51 PM

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titan x's are great tho ;-;

dark quarry Aug 18, 2019, 4:52 PM

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Yeah, I know

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Hopefully, PCBS gets updated with the latest round of hardware soon

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Just did my "Stop It" Build. AIO cooled Celeron with RGB Case fans and a GTX 1080 Ti.

late sorrel Aug 18, 2019, 4:55 PM

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do you have xtreme bottleknecc build?

dark quarry Aug 18, 2019, 4:55 PM

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Running 3DMark on it just for S&G...

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I think a Celeron/GTX 1080 Ti would satisfy that curiosity, no?

late sorrel Aug 18, 2019, 4:56 PM

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yeah

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what about an athlon

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Wait, isn't the athlon better than the celeron?

dark quarry Aug 18, 2019, 4:57 PM

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wow... my 'Stop It' build scored a 4,982. Not bad for a Celeron.

late sorrel Aug 18, 2019, 4:57 PM

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Pentium 3 GWchadThonkery

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Does PCBS have pentium chips?

dark quarry Aug 18, 2019, 4:57 PM

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Oldest processors in the game are Kaby Lake

late sorrel Aug 18, 2019, 4:57 PM

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Oh, so a 6000 series or a 7000 series iirc

dark quarry Aug 18, 2019, 4:58 PM

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Yeah, I think so.

late sorrel Aug 18, 2019, 4:58 PM

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yup, 7000 series

dark quarry Aug 18, 2019, 4:59 PM

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Pentium 4000s and Celeron 3000s

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Ryzen 3s on the AMD side

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Up to Threadripper 2990WX (32 core)

hexed horizon Aug 18, 2019, 5:08 PM

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Put the computer into an actual fridge for cooling

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You must buy a fridge first

dark quarry Aug 18, 2019, 6:00 PM

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It's all about the custom water cooling! Got it!

hexed horizon Aug 18, 2019, 6:06 PM

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throw it into a lake

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you must purchase a lake

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By the way

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can electronics function in freezing temperatures

late sorrel Aug 18, 2019, 6:06 PM

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probably

hexed horizon Aug 18, 2019, 6:06 PM

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I mean

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a computer

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what about the thermal paste?

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both on the inside and outside of the CPU

bronze cloak Aug 18, 2019, 6:10 PM

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Yeah. If the temperature changes too quickly under those temps the thermal paste can crack, which obviously isn't good. The only time to consider that though is if you're doing some extreme overclocking with dry ice or liquid nitrogen.

late sorrel Aug 18, 2019, 6:10 PM

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Yeah but like slowly putting it into liquid nitrogen

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very very slowly

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and then you don't need to worry about heat

sick reef Aug 18, 2019, 6:18 PM

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It wouldn't be too bad if you could do the nuclear power facility solution, and run your lakewater through your computer's cooling, still keeping it both clean and being able to circuit it properly. A hell of a reservoir.

dark quarry Aug 18, 2019, 7:52 PM

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Threadripper 2990 is most expensive CPU in the game at $1,100. Most expensive i9 is only like $760.

sick reef Aug 18, 2019, 7:57 PM

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Did you forget about the 9980XE?

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📎 unknown.png

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Or well, the game, I guess.

dark quarry Aug 18, 2019, 8:00 PM

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Just saw that in the game. Showing $1,300 here, but for whatever reason, the system I built with it only got to 8900

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Going back to work on that one, I guess... lol

sick reef Aug 18, 2019, 8:02 PM

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Well, i9 are socket 2011-3 and 2066 respectively.

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2066 being 9X/7X series i9's and beyond.

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2011-3 or what ever it's called is used for regular i9's.

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From 9 or 7 series.

dark quarry Aug 18, 2019, 8:32 PM

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Yep. Once again, custom liquid cooling to the rescue.

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$11,306

sick reef Aug 18, 2019, 8:33 PM

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Are you trying to make the most expensive computer possible?

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It does sure feel as if you could easily surpass 11k, just that you have to get specialist stuff for everything.

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Also meaning it'd be great performance, but yeah, expensive.

dark quarry Aug 18, 2019, 8:39 PM

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I was just trying to get to $10k for a trophy

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Now just curious how high I can go... lol

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21k on the 3DMark with minimal overclocking.

fiery nacelle Aug 19, 2019, 12:01 PM

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@TintedMirrors

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wat

void perch Aug 19, 2019, 12:33 PM

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Mirror's left the server

fiery nacelle Aug 19, 2019, 12:36 PM

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oh no, one less hardware enthusiast GTFO amba...

dense wasp Aug 19, 2019, 12:44 PM

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yeh :I

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any juicy new HW news from Nvidias "show" or whatever it's called?

dark quarry Aug 19, 2019, 4:12 PM

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Isn’t that where they announced the 2070 and 2080 ‘Supers’?

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I never read much into it, since I’m not currently in the market for Desktop upgrades.

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That’s another conversation to have with my wife at some point in the future, as she just spent 3 grand on a new MacBook Pro.

dense wasp Aug 19, 2019, 5:26 PM

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They had some thing yesterday I think

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Got my father a MacBook Pro for Christmas, they last

dark quarry Aug 19, 2019, 9:50 PM

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Yeah, that's one thing Apple does right, my wife still has a 15(?) year old PowerBook in a closet around here somewhere. Still works. Can't run modern software, but it still works.

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I think it may be one of the last models built on PowerPC architecture.

fleet canopy Aug 20, 2019, 7:41 AM

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You guys know how to fix a ‘Catastrophic Failure’ problem on a PC?

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Seems to be OS related from research

fleet canopy Aug 20, 2019, 8:03 AM

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Windows 10 OS of that’s ever needed

sick reef Aug 20, 2019, 9:04 AM

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Depends really, how and when does it show?

fleet canopy Aug 20, 2019, 9:11 AM

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Comes as a pop-up window, dunno when it comes up since it’s some other guy’s problem

steep scroll Aug 20, 2019, 10:49 AM

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hey guys so i just upgraded my pc in the CPU area from a i3 8100 to a i7 8700 but now my windows boots slower and it crashes to windows error often and i have no idea what's causing it, any ideas?

fiery nacelle Aug 20, 2019, 12:49 PM

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current PC specs?

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oh wait, did you build it in the 1st place (with the original i3-8100)

fleet canopy Aug 20, 2019, 12:52 PM

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Basically what he said

oblique sequoia Aug 20, 2019, 4:24 PM

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hi
i got a computer issue
my laptop's disk always runs at 100%
i have run a disk check
disabled superfetch
disabled windows search
updated to win 10
nothing fixed it
anything i can do cause its really garbo

inner lily Aug 20, 2019, 4:25 PM

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i finally upgraded from 3mb/s internet to 15mb/s

fleet canopy Aug 20, 2019, 4:27 PM

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Nice

dark quarry Aug 20, 2019, 4:38 PM

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100% of capacity? Sounds like you need to run disk cleanup.

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Probably a bunch of download files and unneeded backup stuff you can get rid of.

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Being a laptop disk, I would assume it’s a 500GB or maybe 1TB?

oblique sequoia Aug 20, 2019, 4:51 PM

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yea 500 gb

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i ran a CHKDSK

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In cmd

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but it still is running 100%

dark quarry Aug 20, 2019, 5:01 PM

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You need to run Clean Disk. Right click on the drive in File Explorer, click on Properties and click the Clean Disk button. Select unneeded files and then Okay. Pretty much everything that pops up can safely be deleted, even old backup files if you are satisfied with how your computer is currently running.

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If you’ve only just recently backed up, it’s probably a good idea to hold onto backup files, though, just in case...

patent kite Aug 20, 2019, 5:03 PM

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@oblique sequoia you must verify that the SSD is operating in AHCI mode, and check upd driver

dark quarry Aug 20, 2019, 5:03 PM

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Also, probably hit up Add/remove applications and remove anything you currently don’t need.

oblique sequoia Aug 20, 2019, 5:03 PM

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how do i do that @patent kite

patent kite Aug 20, 2019, 5:09 PM

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@oblique sequoia this is the first thing to check

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and maybe...

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-Active use by the system of the paging file.
-A process that actively uses the computer’s disk system.
-Strong fragmentation.
-Logical or physical media errors.
-Viruses.

oblique sequoia Aug 20, 2019, 5:11 PM

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i checked for viruses and saw nothing using avast

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i will check when i get home from classes

oblique sequoia Aug 20, 2019, 10:06 PM

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@patent kite

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you still on

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i just got home

patent kite Aug 20, 2019, 10:35 PM

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@oblique sequoia it will be easier for you to google yourself, I write through a translator since it’s not English

oblique sequoia Aug 20, 2019, 10:36 PM

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ah

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ok

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its still running slow

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but i can play simple games

patent kite Aug 20, 2019, 10:50 PM

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@oblique sequoia you can go into BIOS -> find the SATA Mode item (or similar) If the value of this item is “AHCI”, then AHCI mode is already in use

oblique sequoia Aug 20, 2019, 10:53 PM

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i used cmd

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and typed systeminfo

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where would it be

patent kite Aug 20, 2019, 10:56 PM

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and generally it would be nice to have a screenshot where you can see what exactly you consider a problem😬

oblique sequoia Aug 20, 2019, 11:01 PM

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i will get one soon

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right now it is working perfectly

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that is not 100% of my disk

patent kite Aug 20, 2019, 11:12 PM

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@oblique sequoia throw me in a personal configuration of your pc, and ssd model

I'm offline for 5 minutes

oblique sequoia Aug 20, 2019, 11:57 PM

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chrome chasm Aug 20, 2019, 11:57 PM

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That Warden 😂

void perch Aug 20, 2019, 11:57 PM

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@oblique sequoia If you want to post that block of text in something like pastebin or DM me then I can post for you so the bot doesn't get mad.

oblique sequoia Aug 20, 2019, 11:58 PM

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oof

steep scroll Aug 21, 2019, 7:56 AM

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@fiery nacelle i have a i7 8700 with 8gb ram and a 980 founder card on a b360 ds3h motherbaord

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still has crash issues even going outside of insider windows build it will freeze the screen then go to blue crash screen after about 2 seconds

urban gulch Aug 21, 2019, 10:40 AM

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go inside the outsider build

fiery nacelle Aug 21, 2019, 12:39 PM

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@steep scroll puzzling problem though

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Possible hardware based issues:

Power supply related
Thermal paste application?

half dust Aug 21, 2019, 12:42 PM

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@steep scroll what is the Bluescreen error code?

steep scroll Aug 21, 2019, 1:02 PM

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It's not a bluescreen per say its that blue windows ran into a problem screen @half dust

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Power supply covers all power its a gold 500w @fiery nacelle and yes i have thermal paste applied to cpu it doesnt over heat it sits around 70 c

fiery nacelle Aug 21, 2019, 1:04 PM

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Other than a complete reformat and reinstall of Windows 10...

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maybe a long session of Memtest86+?

half dust Aug 21, 2019, 1:06 PM

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@steep scroll but in normal case it still shows what kind of problem

steep scroll Aug 21, 2019, 1:10 PM

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Idk if its that its random when it crashed it could be ten seconds after boot and it be 4 hours after playing games

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And when i get a crash dump its a sys file and its a bunch of garbled symbols i can't read them

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And memtest shows no problems with the ram

sick reef Aug 21, 2019, 1:12 PM

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You said you recently switched it out?

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You're certain it's not set up in a way that might choke the PCH? Or that just some connector isn't put in properly?

steep scroll Aug 21, 2019, 1:19 PM

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I couldnt tell you honestly everything seems in fine and i qflashed the bios up to f15 but the control hub could be messed up in some way idk

patent kite Aug 21, 2019, 8:57 PM

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anybode testing new low latency mode from Nvidia GPU?

urban gulch Aug 21, 2019, 9:09 PM

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Yep.

patent kite Aug 21, 2019, 11:43 PM

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@urban gulch "low latency mode will work best in games that primarily use your GPU and have framerates between 60 and 100 FPS." Nvidia 🙄

fleet canopy Aug 22, 2019, 12:17 AM

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Well

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That’s helpful NoVideo, thanks!

fiery nacelle Aug 22, 2019, 2:09 PM

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I think it was taken to mean GPU-bound scenarios

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but why lower bound limit of 60 fps

patent kite Aug 22, 2019, 2:57 PM

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@fiery nacelle if FPS is less than 60, it makes no sense to remove the load from the processor to the video card

fiery nacelle Aug 22, 2019, 3:01 PM

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but GPU bound scenarios are more likely to exhibit themselves as low FPS right?

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or more accurately, occur at low FPS

signal tide Aug 22, 2019, 4:54 PM

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So I have Basic knowledge about computers but I tried to turn my computer on an it popped an I have no power did my power supply just blow?

sick reef Aug 22, 2019, 5:19 PM

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You should check if the wall-plug works first, and you haven't fried a fuse.
But it could so well be the power supply.

urban gulch Aug 22, 2019, 6:00 PM

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@signal tide Is this the first time turning it on?
Is something else on the power network in your house/apartment, that wasn't on last times you put it on?
and what lab said, check the fuse & and if that is not it, the wall outlet.

fiery nacelle Aug 22, 2019, 10:48 PM

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bronze cloak Aug 22, 2019, 11:05 PM

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What CPU under what workload

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I mean I got the H60 literally just for the sake of water cooling but I’m curious

fiery nacelle Aug 22, 2019, 11:26 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23vjWtUpItk

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Video by Linus Tech Tips

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If not mistaken its an 8-core i7 9700K with an all-core overclock to 5GHz

pallid cedar Aug 23, 2019, 4:21 AM

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Noctua are amazing

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love my NH-D15

bronze cloak Aug 23, 2019, 4:57 AM

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absolutely, as long as you can deal with their choice of colors

pallid cedar Aug 23, 2019, 5:13 AM

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yeah I don't mind the tan/brown. Though now there are also black and silver colors

fleet canopy Aug 23, 2019, 2:22 PM

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There’s always the Dark Rock Pro 4 as an alternative I guess

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Saw a video on comparing that with NH-D15, seemed to be very similar in performance

brittle torrent Aug 24, 2019, 4:29 AM

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i have the dark pro 4 i still haven't overclock my cpu yet ... i need to XD

bronze cloak Aug 24, 2019, 4:59 AM

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hopefully you have better luck with your silicon than i did, my R3 1200 couldn't hit 3.9 ghz at 1.4v

hexed horizon Aug 25, 2019, 10:24 AM

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Ok fellas

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I really don't know what's up with my computer and motherboard

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But when we have a power outage some USB ports temporarely shut down

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Now they work again, I'm confused but happy.

fiery nacelle Aug 25, 2019, 11:10 AM

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could they be corrupted?

hexed horizon Aug 25, 2019, 11:23 AM

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We had a short cirtuit(?), when my brother accidently got shocked when he was changing an old light bulb that has rusty/rotten, that's when my USB ports that had my keyboard/mouse/wifi adapter plugged in, they didn't work for a while.

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Those USB ports recovered, and work again, I don't know how.

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It happened twice, now everything works again.

sick reef Aug 25, 2019, 1:23 PM

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Probably saftey feature of the MB.

fiery nacelle Aug 25, 2019, 1:45 PM

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the short circuit happened twice?

hexed horizon Aug 25, 2019, 5:00 PM

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I doubt it's a feature, but regardless of that I'm glad that they work, for now.
And not quite, first time it happened my brother got tazed by a shitty light bulb, that's when something messed up. Then we had a random power outage on a stormy evening, and it happened again.

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Think I should blame my PSU, because that sounds reasonable enough.

north bronze Aug 25, 2019, 5:12 PM

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What's the best 5700XT aftermarket right now?

pallid cedar Aug 25, 2019, 5:15 PM

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did I get lucky with my ryzen 7 2700 cpu? I have it overclocked to 4Ghz at 1.294V

fleet canopy Aug 25, 2019, 5:20 PM

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Neat

late sorrel Aug 25, 2019, 5:20 PM

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probably

fleet canopy Aug 25, 2019, 5:20 PM

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And uhh, check YouTube for that kind of stuff, or where ever you get your tech news from

north bronze Aug 26, 2019, 10:46 AM

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the powercolor 5700 xt red devil looks dope af

north bronze Aug 26, 2019, 1:25 PM

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any idea where I can find one? can't seem to see it on sale anywhere

late sorrel Aug 26, 2019, 1:29 PM

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smh buy sapphire

fleet canopy Aug 26, 2019, 1:29 PM

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What’s so great about sapphire if I may ask?

late sorrel Aug 26, 2019, 1:31 PM

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warranty

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and they’re known for great products

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They’re also like the biggest supplier

fleet canopy Aug 26, 2019, 1:32 PM

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Ah, neat

late sorrel Aug 26, 2019, 1:33 PM

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also power colour is known to be cheap and to cut corners

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at least, that’s what they’ve done in the past

bronze cloak Aug 26, 2019, 2:12 PM

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Well if AHOC’s video is anything to go by that isn’t the case this time

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Many of the partner cards just aren’t available yet, Sapphire I think was the first

north bronze Aug 26, 2019, 9:42 PM

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What's a good CPU to pair with a 1050ti?

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Asking because my gf wants me to build her a pc

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I want to put a Ryzen 3600X in it for now 👀

patent kite Aug 26, 2019, 9:43 PM

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@north bronze any quad-core processor, no later than 2011

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but I would build on the resolution of her screen

north bronze Aug 26, 2019, 9:45 PM

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probs gonna be 1920x1080

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she needs a new screen

late sorrel Aug 26, 2019, 9:45 PM

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tbh 1050Ti bad

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but heck

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yeah, just get a cpu that’s cheap and can still do good

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like if you’ve got a good deal like I did

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(2600 w/tomahawk for 200)

patent kite Aug 26, 2019, 9:50 PM

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on forums of overclockers, they write that the performance of current risen depends heavily on the quality of RAM

but in general, modern games use the resources of the video card more than the processor

late sorrel Aug 26, 2019, 9:51 PM

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that's true

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there is a clear performance upgrade on the faster ram you have

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iirc that's less so now with the 3000 series

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all I can reccomend is to make sure you get supported ram

patent kite Aug 26, 2019, 9:57 PM

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everything seems to be licking samsung ||b-die||😬

bronze cloak Aug 26, 2019, 11:22 PM

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Yeah, the height of the RAM speed craze was with 1st gen Ryzen, it’s progressively gotten less important. Of course if you can afford it there’s nothing wrong with going faster, the sweet spot is about 3600 and as low as you can get the timings.

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I got 2400 CL15 but I plan on overclocking it tonight to at least 3000, not sure about the timings. This will be my first time OCing memory.

north bronze Aug 27, 2019, 11:25 AM

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the build i'll buy in 2/3 months has 3200CL14

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paired with a Ryzen 3900X

pallid cedar Aug 27, 2019, 3:29 PM

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I wouldn't say the sweet spot for Ryzen is 3600, more like 3200

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I have 3200CL16 and it runs beautifully

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unless things have moved that fast since I bought my stuff a few months ago RIP lol

fleet canopy Aug 27, 2019, 3:34 PM

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Kek

bronze cloak Aug 27, 2019, 4:18 PM

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Of course, you can just get a cheaper kit and OC it. I have 2400C15 and I got it to 2933C16 last night, gonna see if I can bring down the timings today.

north bronze Aug 27, 2019, 4:27 PM

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3200CL14 is recommended 👀

sour oracle Aug 27, 2019, 11:45 PM

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yeah erlite grab a red devil when theyre available

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ive been waiting on my le for like

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3 weeksl mao

true mountain Aug 28, 2019, 12:08 AM

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Hey guys is it worth upgrading my i7 4790k? Or not worth the price of a new CPU for what this one does.

fleet canopy Aug 28, 2019, 12:09 AM

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I think I've heard that's good enough if you OC it?

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I mean, unless you want to upgrade to a 8700K for around same price

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But I'm sure doing OC will work

true mountain Aug 28, 2019, 12:11 AM

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Okay thanks much 🙂

fleet canopy Aug 28, 2019, 12:12 AM

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I mean, I don't know much, I've heard you could so yeah GWworkshopAkaShrug

true mountain Aug 28, 2019, 12:25 AM

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If I was to buy a m.2 SSD, do I have to do anything special to get my OS to boot on that?

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I'm on a regular HDD and it's soooo old and trash.

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Like can I just plug and play and not lose anything?

fleet canopy Aug 28, 2019, 12:26 AM

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Well

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I don't know how to do that ._.

true mountain Aug 28, 2019, 12:27 AM

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haha i'm sure I can google it 😆

fleet canopy Aug 28, 2019, 12:32 AM

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I tried myself, couldn't figure that out heh

late sorrel Aug 28, 2019, 12:32 AM

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you shoyldn't

fleet canopy Aug 28, 2019, 12:32 AM

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You could just

late sorrel Aug 28, 2019, 12:32 AM

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you have to open your bios to boot settings

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and make sure it says the brand of your ssd and name of ssd (evo 970 for example)(

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@true mountain

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you should be fine

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you may want to copy all of your data over

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that's it though

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just copy/paste it and you should be good

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or install windows onto your ssd and leave your hdd alone

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actually I'd do that

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install windows onto your ssd

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that can be done by getting the instalation media from windoww

fleet canopy Aug 28, 2019, 12:34 AM

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I mean, I have to get the OS to the other SSD

late sorrel Aug 28, 2019, 12:34 AM

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booting off of your usb with the media on it

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and then clicking on the ssd drive

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and obiously going through the steps

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you may have to put in your windows key again

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but that's it

true mountain Aug 28, 2019, 12:42 AM

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Okay tyvm

fleet canopy Aug 28, 2019, 12:43 AM

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Time to understand what Mirror's said

late sorrel Aug 28, 2019, 12:43 AM

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ok

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so basically

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re-install windows onto your ssd

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and that's all you need to know

fleet canopy Aug 28, 2019, 12:43 AM

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Also I don't even know how I have a 2133 MHz clocked 16 GB

late sorrel Aug 28, 2019, 12:44 AM

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I'm a good explainer

fleet canopy Aug 28, 2019, 12:44 AM

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How though, lmao

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I've checked the web for help lmao

late sorrel Aug 28, 2019, 12:44 AM

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make the windows installation media

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put it on a flash drive

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go to your bios and make your pc boot off of your flash drive

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follow the steps

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and choose your ssd when you want to install stuff

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ez

fleet canopy Aug 28, 2019, 12:45 AM

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Well there's one problem -w-

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I don't have a flash drive

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kek

late sorrel Aug 28, 2019, 12:45 AM

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oh

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well go buy a usb

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it's like 10-20 bucks for a good size one

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micro center do good cheap ones

fleet canopy Aug 28, 2019, 12:48 AM

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I'll check my brother's room, he's got to have one

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I got one that is a USB, dunno the size, and another thats prooooobably a usb

late sorrel Aug 28, 2019, 12:55 AM

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it needs to be like abouve 16 gigs to fit the media in it

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iirc

fleet canopy Aug 28, 2019, 12:55 AM

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Well only one way to find out

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kek

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Obvious USB is 1.86 GB -w-

late sorrel Aug 28, 2019, 12:56 AM

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ono

fleet canopy Aug 28, 2019, 12:57 AM

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Yes

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A 32 GB USB -w-

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And to format it owo

late sorrel Aug 28, 2019, 12:57 AM

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uwuuu

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have fun!!

fleet canopy Aug 28, 2019, 12:58 AM

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Should I just start it with defaults?

late sorrel Aug 28, 2019, 12:58 AM

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what mean

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like windows defaults

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because like sure

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you won't need to do much

fleet canopy Aug 28, 2019, 12:59 AM

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USB formatting defaults

late sorrel Aug 28, 2019, 12:59 AM

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yee

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I don't see why not

fleet canopy Aug 28, 2019, 12:59 AM

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It seems to be alright, time to yeet it to different SSD

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And then proceed to use the 500 GB HDD

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cri

late sorrel Aug 28, 2019, 1:00 AM

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why

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oh

fleet canopy Aug 28, 2019, 1:00 AM

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Wait shit

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I can't find the HDD

late sorrel Aug 28, 2019, 1:00 AM

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you're trying to boot off of an ssd right?

fleet canopy Aug 28, 2019, 1:00 AM

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I'm transferring OS to the 1 TB SSD, it'll be far great for a long while

late sorrel Aug 28, 2019, 1:01 AM

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oh guuci

fleet canopy Aug 28, 2019, 1:01 AM

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Unless I can find a good sized SSD again, from my brother

late sorrel Aug 28, 2019, 1:01 AM

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heh

fleet canopy Aug 28, 2019, 1:10 AM

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So I have to go to the BIOS to do it, correct?

late sorrel Aug 28, 2019, 1:17 AM

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yes

fleet canopy Aug 28, 2019, 1:17 AM

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Mmk

late sorrel Aug 28, 2019, 1:17 AM

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and there should be a boot options

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set your usb to first on the list

fleet canopy Aug 28, 2019, 1:17 AM

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Alright

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So essentially, I get the OS to the USB, which after restart, it should ask me to install to a SSD, correct?

late sorrel Aug 28, 2019, 1:25 AM

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it should ask you where you want to install to, yes

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you tell your computer to bnoot off of the usb

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Windows Installation Media

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have that on the usb

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and then that will ask you to install to usb

fleet canopy Aug 28, 2019, 1:27 AM

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Mmk

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I

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Actually do not know how

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I picked one that was not any of the drives I have

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And yes

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It's still in the same one -w-

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Either I cannot figure my way through this BIOS or I just have big blind

late sorrel Aug 28, 2019, 1:36 AM

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ugh

fleet canopy Aug 28, 2019, 2:41 AM

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I'll just do it tomorrow, since I got school

north bronze Aug 28, 2019, 6:19 PM

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What would be a good mobo for a Ryzen 3950X

bronze cloak Aug 28, 2019, 6:53 PM

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Stock, pretty much any X570, X470, and some of the better B450 boards should be good.

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For overclocking, you're gonna want something $200+ just based on VRM quality, even at 7nm 16 overclocked cores could wear down a cheap motherboard.

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Some of the high-end X370 boards are pretty cheap now though, and they should be able to handle a decent OC once you have the updated BIOS

north bronze Aug 28, 2019, 7:07 PM

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no oc

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too expensive to fry or damage by accident :^)

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@bronze cloak would my current board be enough then? MSI MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard

bronze cloak Aug 28, 2019, 7:08 PM

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Oh yeah, for sure

north bronze Aug 28, 2019, 7:10 PM

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nice

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reeee apparently my chosen PSU doesn't have a 12v 4pin connector for the motherboard

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hmm

📎 unknown.png

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any good, modular psu?

north bronze Aug 28, 2019, 7:27 PM

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(or do i not need the 12v 4 pin connector?)

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(this is the list in question: https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/ZvBqLJ)

urban gulch Aug 28, 2019, 7:29 PM

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You need a 4 pin connector, as said in the picture.

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So you need a PSU with a 4 pin connector

north bronze Aug 28, 2019, 7:29 PM

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I can't seem to filter a psu with a 4pin in pc part picker

urban gulch Aug 28, 2019, 7:29 PM

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If it is a modular one, you can just buy (mostly 8 pin in PSU) to 4 pin

north bronze Aug 28, 2019, 7:29 PM

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Ah

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Sounds good

urban gulch Aug 28, 2019, 7:30 PM

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Modular PSU means you can put in your own cables

north bronze Aug 28, 2019, 7:30 PM

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Yeee

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I'll do that

urban gulch Aug 28, 2019, 7:30 PM

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so just buy a cable from PSU to 4 pin

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amazon has enough of those 😄

north bronze Aug 28, 2019, 7:30 PM

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Ty

urban gulch Aug 28, 2019, 7:31 PM

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No worries!

bronze cloak Aug 28, 2019, 7:51 PM

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nonononono

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The extra 4 pin is completely useless unless doing high overclocking

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The 8 pin alone can handle 384W in its cheapest config. And since both power connectors go into the same thing, the CPU, you don’t need to plug them both in to work.

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That list looks totally fine, even for the 3950X you should be alright with that power supply.

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 7:59 PM

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@urban gulch I think in the case of most modular PSUs, one SHOULD use ONLY the cables supplied by that PSU manufacturer

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The pinouts for the modular cables that plug into the PSU itself are different and there may not be a common standard across manufacturers

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The ones that plug into the motherboard are standard of course

dapper cloak Aug 28, 2019, 8:01 PM

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Hi there Guys. I have a question here.

One of my friends is planning on starting his first pc. He's already got a 960gtx Nvidia, 16gigs of ram, and a Decent Pc Case.

Our intention is to get him a decent Motherboard+cpu+PSU+SSD that will allow him to play recent games right away, but also keeping in mind he will spend more money in the future.

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He can spend 200-300€ (200€ will be ideal) Any ideas?

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 8:02 PM

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@north bronze MSI makes good hardware, but SUPPOSEDLY this time round their BIOS support is lacklustre, Asus too

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https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/cn65yn/memes_about_asus_bios_tardiness_aside_msi_seems/

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@dapper cloak Say, what are the specs of his current system in full?

dapper cloak Aug 28, 2019, 8:03 PM

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None, he has an old OLD laptop from 2009

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We've gather those parts from different friends. Wich are an Nvidia 960gtx, 2 8gb rams, and your typical HDD

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 8:05 PM

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the 2x 8 GB of RAM is DDR4-2666? any further specs?

dapper cloak Aug 28, 2019, 8:05 PM

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no, they are 1600 I believe

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let me check

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 8:05 PM

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1600? Hmmm, could it be DDR3?

dapper cloak Aug 28, 2019, 8:07 PM

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https://www.pccomponentes.com/kingston-hyperx-fury-blue-ddr3-1600mhz-16gb-2x8gb-cl10

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those are the ones

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 8:07 PM

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they're DDR3

dapper cloak Aug 28, 2019, 8:08 PM

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yea

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Again, our main concern here is the budget

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his idea is to upgrade his pc in the future

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 8:08 PM

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need an older motherboard that has DDR3 ram slots

dapper cloak Aug 28, 2019, 8:08 PM

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oh

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 8:08 PM

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so you'll have to upgrade the mobo in the future too

dapper cloak Aug 28, 2019, 8:09 PM

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ok wait

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those are no the Rams sorry

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they are indeed DDR4

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 8:10 PM

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oh nice

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 8:10 PM

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if they're DDR4 it makes it a fair bit easier on you

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 8:10 PM

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if you could get the specs would be good haha

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Though an Nvidia GTX 960 2GB is somewhat... weak today

dapper cloak Aug 28, 2019, 8:12 PM

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I have the ram sticks here with me

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can't tell the exact sepcs (don't have the original box). But they are Fury HyperX DDR4 ...

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can't get the MHz tbh

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 8:12 PM

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is there a sticker on them with a model number?

dapper cloak Aug 28, 2019, 8:12 PM

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Again Sam, he's gonna play your basic Overwiatch, csgo...nothing fancy

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there is yes

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a sticker on the back

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1.2 V

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Doesn't say anything related to speed

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 8:13 PM

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a model number though

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like "GTZ4700rz"

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or whatever

dapper cloak Aug 28, 2019, 8:13 PM

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HX421C14FB2/8

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?

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 8:14 PM

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https://www.kingston.com/dataSheets/HX421C14FB2_8.pdf

dapper cloak Aug 28, 2019, 8:14 PM

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yep

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 8:14 PM

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2133Mhz

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 8:15 PM

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Hmmm, if it is for basic gaming...

dapper cloak Aug 28, 2019, 8:15 PM

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The idea is to get him something "decent" with his budget

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that could be upgraded in the future

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Motherboard+CPU+PSU

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 8:16 PM

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But for 200 to 300 euros

dapper cloak Aug 28, 2019, 8:16 PM

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yeah xD

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kind if tough

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 8:16 PM

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Roughly that is somewhat like 300 USD right?

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@pallid cedar

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 8:16 PM

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he needs a cpu, mobo, psu, and maybe an ssd depending on the HDD

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cpu cooler?

dapper cloak Aug 28, 2019, 8:16 PM

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he's got a decent EVO

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 8:16 PM

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European markets could have different pricing structures though

dapper cloak Aug 28, 2019, 8:16 PM

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will depend on the socket of course

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It's Amazon Sam

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 8:17 PM

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in the states, one could grab an older Ryzen 5 1600 + Motherboard combo from Microcentre for very dirt cheap (if you live near one)

dapper cloak Aug 28, 2019, 8:17 PM

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Prices are the same for pretty much the entire western market

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 8:17 PM

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what cpu does he want to go with? AMD or Intel?

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and no, they def aren't Debuti

dapper cloak Aug 28, 2019, 8:17 PM

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Doesn't really have a preference, intel would be ideal I guess

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 8:17 PM

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Canada has a large markup on electronics plus a handling fee

dapper cloak Aug 28, 2019, 8:17 PM

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did not know that

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 8:18 PM

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at that budget, most likely it'll have to be AMD? Unless 2nd hand market

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 8:18 PM

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can't speak for the other side of the pond though

dapper cloak Aug 28, 2019, 8:18 PM

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We've never get into 2nd market tbh

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 8:18 PM

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ok, new it is then - I prefer that too haha

dapper cloak Aug 28, 2019, 8:19 PM

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I'd rather him waiting a couple of months to get some of the parths, than going 2nd hand

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personal preference thats all

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parts**

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 8:19 PM

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well you're going to want a decent motherboard, and a decent cpu to start, so you don't have to bother upgrading that down the road

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 8:20 PM

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Hmmm
CPU - Ryzen 5 1600 / 2600?
Mobo - B450 based

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 8:20 PM

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your GPU will def need an upgrade and require most of the funds

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might be able to find a cheap 2600 with the new ryzen set out

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 8:20 PM

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Sadly only in Microcenter can one use to get a Ryzen 5 1600 + B450 motherboard for like USD 120

dapper cloak Aug 28, 2019, 8:20 PM

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wow

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we do not have those kind of deals here sadly

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 8:21 PM

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yeah

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 8:21 PM

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hmmm, 2600 is showing 115.34

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 8:21 PM

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even in US, it is only the physical store for walk-in-sale

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@pallid cedar Hmmm the 2600 is a solid choice, that will leave him roughly 200 euros for the rest

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What about a B450 micro ATX motherboard next...

dapper cloak Aug 28, 2019, 8:22 PM

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📎 unknown.png

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 8:22 PM

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and the 2600 comes with a stock cpu cooler too

dapper cloak Aug 28, 2019, 8:22 PM

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how's that looking?

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 8:23 PM

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I'm just making up a build on PCpartpicker currently

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 8:23 PM

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@dapper cloak Might want to consider switching from DS3H to GIGABYTE B450 AORUS M

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try that see if the pricing makes any sense?

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 8:24 PM

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yeah the DS3H is a micro ATX

dapper cloak Aug 28, 2019, 8:24 PM

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let me check

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oh ok

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 8:24 PM

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try an MSI B450 Tomahawk

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but it's 102

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 8:24 PM

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Ah yes that would be ok-ish too

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 8:24 PM

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cheapest I can see on PCpartpicker

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 8:25 PM

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The Aorus M?

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Supposedly it is going for 90 euros right?

dapper cloak Aug 28, 2019, 8:25 PM

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Aorus shows 89.99

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 8:25 PM

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ah nice

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 8:25 PM

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hmmm, maybe the Gigabyte GA-X370?

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 8:25 PM

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Would need a BIOS update

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 8:25 PM

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goes for 70

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 8:26 PM

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Not sure whether the Giga X370 has BIOS flashback though

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 8:26 PM

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lemme dbl check

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 8:26 PM

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MSI 2nd gen Ryzen motherboards have better VRM quality, but their BIOS support lately for the new Ryzen 3000 series CPU is supposedly lacklustre

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 8:27 PM

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nah looks good, amazon has previous sales listed aith the mobo and the 2600 being bought together

dapper cloak Aug 28, 2019, 8:27 PM

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📎 Motherb.png

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Forget the spanish

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 8:27 PM

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2600 ok, newer 3600 drop-in, some complaints tho

dapper cloak Aug 28, 2019, 8:27 PM

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those are the options they've got

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last one is 46,99

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€

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 8:28 PM

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definitely skip the ultra budget A320M boards, well unless your friend really is strapped for cash and when he upgrades, he would change the motherboard too

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 8:29 PM

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if they're only going to be playing overwatch and CSGO they don't need a 3000 series cpu

dapper cloak Aug 28, 2019, 8:29 PM

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Motherboard will be ideal to not upgrade it in the future

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 8:29 PM

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But having said that... technically speaking... at stock settings, the A320M boards WOULD work too

dapper cloak Aug 28, 2019, 8:29 PM

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Well there are more options Spartan

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xD, the thing is to try to keep it as flexible as possible for the future

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get a decent Mobo+cpu base (if possible)

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 8:30 PM

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I play very intensive games on my 144Hz 1080p monitor and I get over 100fps in most games with my ryzen 2700 and RTX 2060 combo

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with max settings

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 8:30 PM

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Nice

dapper cloak Aug 28, 2019, 8:30 PM

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So what motherboard would you recommend?

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I guess the ryzen 2600 is a good option?

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 8:31 PM

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my roommate actually runs a 2600 and it runs almost as well as mine does with aGTX 1660Ti

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 8:31 PM

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Seems like its either the B450 tomahawk or Aorus M

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a GTX 1660/ Ti is a good budget option GPU also

dapper cloak Aug 28, 2019, 8:31 PM

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They don't seem to have the tomahawk on stock

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Gpu will come down the road I guess :9

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He'll have to stick to the 960 for now

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 8:31 PM

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yeah true

dapper cloak Aug 28, 2019, 8:31 PM

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I'm sure he'll upgrade it in not much time

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 8:31 PM

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so that leaves us with 100 euros for the PSU and SSD

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maybe spend on the PSU well, and leave the SSD as an upgrade option in the very near future? (assuming the HDD he got is decently fast 7200 rpm?)

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 8:32 PM

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and a power supply should not be cheap

dapper cloak Aug 28, 2019, 8:32 PM

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Yeah it is a 7200rpm

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 8:32 PM

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VERY TRUE

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don't skimp om PSU

dapper cloak Aug 28, 2019, 8:32 PM

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We could save on the SSD I agree

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yeah I know, I've suffered from faulty PSU

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 8:32 PM

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https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/T6VgdX

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so far

dapper cloak Aug 28, 2019, 8:32 PM

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and always regret it

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 8:33 PM

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no clue who those vendors are though

dapper cloak Aug 28, 2019, 8:33 PM

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hm

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 8:33 PM

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looks solid

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 8:33 PM

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I have the exact same Kingston SSD in my system as my OS drive with a cpl games on it

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feels flimsy, but it works well

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 8:34 PM

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well except the X370 can be switched for the B450 Aorus for out of the box support for Ryzen 2000 series

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 8:34 PM

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^ yeah

dapper cloak Aug 28, 2019, 8:34 PM

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Some AMD X370 chipset motherboards may need a BIOS update prior to using Pinnacle Ridge CPUs

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 8:34 PM

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Another alternative to the A400 is the Crucial BX500

dapper cloak Aug 28, 2019, 8:34 PM

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that means we have to update the mobo?

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 8:34 PM

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otherwise, the x370 will need a BIOS update which really isn't too difficult to manage

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 8:35 PM

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Also, 1st gen Ryzen chipsets...

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 8:35 PM

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download the update to a Fat32 formastted usb stick, and use it to update the mobo

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 8:35 PM

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may not get compatibility with Zen 4

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B450 should be upgradeable... hopefully to Zen 4

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 8:35 PM

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2600 is 2nd gen

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 8:35 PM

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Ryzen 5 4600 say?

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The mobo vendors may decide to drop X370 support for Ryzen 4000 series

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 8:36 PM

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oh most likely, they're moving to PCIe 4x

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not even sure how well my X470 Taichi will hold up

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 8:36 PM

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There is backwards compatibility in the CPUs to switch to PCIe 3.0, it's just the greedy business decisions by the vendors

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 8:37 PM

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yeah, I'm not looking to upgrade my cpu anytime soon, it already overclocks so well

dapper cloak Aug 28, 2019, 8:40 PM

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im checking yea

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for an option that does not need to be BIOS updated

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since the delivery will go straight to his home

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 8:41 PM

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BIOS update can be done at home

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I had to update my roommate'sBIOS

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 8:41 PM

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Some cheaper but good PSUs too:
Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 550W 80+ Gold for 74++ euros
SeaSonic 520 W 80+ Bronze for 71++ euros
Silverstone Essential 650 W 80+ Gold for 70++ euros
SeaSonic S12II 520 W 80+ Bronze for 51++ euros

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 8:41 PM

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and I did mine just for giggles

dapper cloak Aug 28, 2019, 8:42 PM

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Corsair CX650 650W 80 Plus Bronze

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 8:42 PM

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I personally wouldn't touch Silverstone, but Seasonic tend to have good PSU manufacturing. Though they can also be a bit more pricy here in Canada sadly

dapper cloak Aug 28, 2019, 8:42 PM

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is that a good option?

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 8:42 PM

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preferably gold+ rated, but Bronze works if you don't mind upgrading later

dapper cloak Aug 28, 2019, 8:43 PM

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Corsair is decent ... ?

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 8:43 PM

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has to do with better transfer of heat and electricity

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corsair, is, yeah "decent" is probably the word I would use haha

dapper cloak Aug 28, 2019, 8:43 PM

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xD

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 8:43 PM

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not great, but not terrible

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 8:43 PM

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Not all corsair PSUs though

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not the much cheaper ones haha

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 8:43 PM

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^ this

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lol

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 8:44 PM

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Plus there is always a premium with Corsair

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 8:44 PM

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any cheap PSU is asking for trouble

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no matter what, really

dapper cloak Aug 28, 2019, 8:44 PM

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Corsair CX650 650W 80 Plus Bronze it's 70€

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 8:44 PM

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Seasonics should be good

dapper cloak Aug 28, 2019, 8:44 PM

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let me check

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 8:44 PM

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Super Flower too

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FSP too

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 8:44 PM

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650W is good for just about egerything you'll ever use

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 8:44 PM

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Anyway Corsair doesn't make their own PSUs

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 8:44 PM

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I have a 650

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and I have a ton more power usage than you I would imagine haha

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 8:45 PM

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they get Seasonic or Super Flower or Andyson to do it for them

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 8:45 PM

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^ they just stick a Corsair brand name on it and charge extra

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 8:45 PM

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HAHA yeah man

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also, Debuti's friend at medium spec gaming would likely be ok with 500 to 550 watt range

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 8:46 PM

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oh EASILY

dapper cloak Aug 28, 2019, 8:46 PM

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should I try to shoot for a 550w perhaps?

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 8:46 PM

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yeah

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even 500 is ok

dapper cloak Aug 28, 2019, 8:46 PM

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I was thinking 650 might be overkilling it

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 8:46 PM

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my full part list only shows a power usage of 374W

dapper cloak Aug 28, 2019, 8:46 PM

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that's what I have

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with a 7700k and 1070

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 8:47 PM

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https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/pgP8WD

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 8:48 PM

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most typical modern parts draw, even at the higher end:
CPU - 120 watts
GPU - 250 watts
mobo, RAM, the rest - 30 watts

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 8:48 PM

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basically, yeah

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 8:48 PM

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Unless you love using Core i9-9900K overclocked all-core to 5GHz, dual Vega 64s or RTX 2080 Tis

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Nice setup tho

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haha

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 8:48 PM

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you only need a bunch of extra power for lots of HDD/SSDs, SLI graphics cards, and overclocking cpus

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or if you have more RGB LEDs than you can handle lol

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ty

dapper cloak Aug 28, 2019, 8:49 PM

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Because the AMD Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5Ghz is pretty much shit?

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wild question there

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I have no idea about ryzen, nor the lower end specs from cpu's in general

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 8:49 PM

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the 2200G is an APU if I'm not mistaken

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on-board graphics

dapper cloak Aug 28, 2019, 8:50 PM

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oh

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really?

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 8:50 PM

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no graphics card required, but you aren't getting as good as the graphics from even your GTX 960 2GB

dapper cloak Aug 28, 2019, 8:50 PM

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I see

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 8:50 PM

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unless I'm misremembering it

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nope, it's def the APU

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it can work, I just wouldn't do it

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how much cheaper is it?

dapper cloak Aug 28, 2019, 8:51 PM

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it's 86€

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 8:51 PM

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your 2600 nets you an extra 2 cores and 4 threads

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plus extra clock speeds

dapper cloak Aug 28, 2019, 8:52 PM

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yeah, nah will stick to the 2600

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 8:52 PM

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200g is a 4 core 8 thread APU, 2600 is a 6 core, 12 thread CPU

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les need to upgrade from the 2600

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quad core processors are almost obsolete

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they're mostly in phones now lol

dapper cloak Aug 28, 2019, 8:53 PM

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All right, sadly our supplier (spanish one) doens't have the entire of your optiouns. But I tried to get to what you guys recommended.

(I've got some points from their store saved, so price will go down 60€ in total). That's why I'm basically buying from them.

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so it'll be 240€

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 8:54 PM

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no that looks excellent tbhy

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toss in an SSD if you need one for faster OS load times and you're all set

dapper cloak Aug 28, 2019, 8:54 PM

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Will probably do that yeah

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 8:54 PM

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ermmmm the CX units are ok right?

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 8:54 PM

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I'll dbl check their rating

dapper cloak Aug 28, 2019, 8:55 PM

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let me check, didn't think about it tbh

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 8:55 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5Q2_HZjBX4

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 8:55 PM

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should be alright I suppose

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 8:56 PM

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he seems to give it a decent review

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should be okay, it seems to be one of their mainline models

dapper cloak Aug 28, 2019, 8:56 PM

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sounds goot unless that guys is payed by Corsair

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 8:56 PM

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haha he barely gets paid at all lol

dapper cloak Aug 28, 2019, 8:56 PM

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😂

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 8:56 PM

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well, you could always ask your supplier if he has Seasonic ones too haha

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 8:56 PM

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^

dapper cloak Aug 28, 2019, 8:56 PM

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they don't sadly

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 8:56 PM

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oh that's ok then

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 8:57 PM

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I went with EVGA but I def paid for that option :/

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 8:57 PM

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I don't see much Super Flower or FSP units in the Western markets though haha

dapper cloak Aug 28, 2019, 8:57 PM

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Yeah I haven an EVGA as well

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 8:57 PM

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well that's ok too, if for the same wattage, 80+ and modularity it is cheaper

dapper cloak Aug 28, 2019, 8:58 PM

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one question

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 8:58 PM

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my EVGA Gold+ 650W cost me $160 CAD in the end

dapper cloak Aug 28, 2019, 8:58 PM

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if it does not say BOX on the cpu, it's cuz it doesn't come with a cooler?

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or is it a thing from this supplier in particular

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 8:59 PM

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BOX?

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 8:59 PM

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not too sure though

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I suppose one could just grab a cheap AM4 cooler and that is still better than the box cooler?

dapper cloak Aug 28, 2019, 8:59 PM

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ok never mind, yeah some cpu's say Procesador AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 Ghz BOX, some don't

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 8:59 PM

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the 2600 should have a Wraith Stealth cooler bundled with them

dapper cloak Aug 28, 2019, 9:00 PM

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but yeah, it comes with the ryzen default cooler wich I heard it's a pretty good option

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 9:00 PM

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it works for the default speeds wel enough at least

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don't try overclocking on the stealth though

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 9:00 PM

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the Stealth is the worse cooler of the bunch though - AMD ought to have bundled at least the Spire with their 6 cores CPU haha

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 9:01 PM

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the spire is with the 2600X which has a higher default core clock

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 9:01 PM

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so that leaves just the SSD for Debuti's friend

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though it's pretty much over the budget to get one

urban gulch Aug 28, 2019, 9:02 PM

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@fiery nacelle modular psu^s literally has the name modular in it

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 9:02 PM

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with the HDD the SSD can wait though

dapper cloak Aug 28, 2019, 9:02 PM

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yeah it is, but I'll get him one np 😉

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 9:02 PM

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a cheap 120GB SSD can be had for like 15 euros

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 9:03 PM

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@urban gulch
https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/2702-psa-on-mixing-modular-psu-cables-dont-do-it

urban gulch Aug 28, 2019, 9:03 PM

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they mostly use 8 pin to whatever

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 9:03 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDsC_PNo84I

urban gulch Aug 28, 2019, 9:03 PM

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i do it myself lol

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 9:03 PM

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From same vendor it is probably possible

urban gulch Aug 28, 2019, 9:03 PM

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nevet had problems

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 9:04 PM

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But don't use a Corsair 8 pin modular and stick it in a Seasonic unit

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Might work yes

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But no guarantees

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ha ha ha

dapper cloak Aug 28, 2019, 9:04 PM

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All right bois, I have to leave for now, thanks for all the help

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was really helpful

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 9:04 PM

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It might work if the Corsair unit had been manufactured by Seasonic

dapper cloak Aug 28, 2019, 9:04 PM

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will come back at you once everything is set!

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 9:04 PM

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But Corsair sources from elsewhere too

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 9:04 PM

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you're welcome, have a good one Debuti o7

dapper cloak Aug 28, 2019, 9:05 PM

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have a nice day as well

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 9:05 PM

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@dapper cloak No prob, do congratulate your friend too

dapper cloak Aug 28, 2019, 9:05 PM

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will pass by in a few days to tell you guys how everything went

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 9:05 PM

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sounds good

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 9:06 PM

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https://www.corsair.com/ww/en/psu-cable-compatibility

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Even Corsair has a compatibility list for their modular PSU

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not all corsair modular PSU cables work with all their modular PSU

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 9:08 PM

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it's all a lottery really haha

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 9:08 PM

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Just type "modular psu cables interchangeable" into Google search and we'd get a TON load of warnings and PSAs across manufacturers, reviewers, forums and videos

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It does not mean that ALL modular cables are 100% not interchangeable, but like what @pallid cedar says, it is a lottery - they MAY be interchangeable but it is the onus of the user to find out - and it definitely is not covered under any warranty

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@urban gulch

drifting plaza Aug 28, 2019, 9:11 PM

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how expensive in that shop is ryzen 7 2700?

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 9:11 PM

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Though if we want to use the cables that already come with the modular unit - the 8 pin ones, then stick a converter on the end to another type, that might be ok I suppose

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Another 2nd rule of thumb: MOLEX TO SATA, LOSE ALL YOUR DATA

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https://www.reddit.com/r/techsupportgore/comments/5cy0q5/i_now_understand_what_the_phrase_molex_to_sata/

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 9:12 PM

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which shop? lol

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 9:12 PM

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It's the Spanish one that Debuti is shopping from perhaps?

drifting plaza Aug 28, 2019, 9:12 PM

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yeah

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 9:13 PM

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no clue what that site even is haha

drifting plaza Aug 28, 2019, 9:13 PM

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because i think better take ryzen 7 2700 instead of r5 2600.... 2 more cores and 4 threads is better...

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can multitask more....

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 9:13 PM

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he's on a budget

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 9:13 PM

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better for productivity yeah

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true, his friend was on a tight budget haha

drifting plaza Aug 28, 2019, 9:14 PM

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he could maybe take cheaper mobo?

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 9:14 PM

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better not though

drifting plaza Aug 28, 2019, 9:14 PM

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300ish not new gen mobo's?

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 9:15 PM

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he's already getting a fairly cheap mobo that works well with the cpu choice

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 9:15 PM

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oh the 300 series require a BIOS update

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something I don't think they want to mess with LOL

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 9:15 PM

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sadly he'd have to have a higher budget for upgrading

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 9:15 PM

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ha ha ha

drifting plaza Aug 28, 2019, 9:15 PM

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how big is his budget?

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 9:15 PM

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300 euros

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 9:15 PM

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like the equivalent of 300 USD

drifting plaza Aug 28, 2019, 9:15 PM

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im european... so euros i know :D

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 9:16 PM

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oh well, luckily it's just the CPU, mobo, PSU and SSD (had to drop that one)

drifting plaza Aug 28, 2019, 9:16 PM

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ram?

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 9:16 PM

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already has some

drifting plaza Aug 28, 2019, 9:16 PM

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or he had DDR4 type system before?

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 9:16 PM

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I think his friends pitched in old parts

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a GTX 960 2GB, a case, and was it 8 or 16GB of ram?

late sorrel Aug 28, 2019, 9:17 PM

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ah

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 9:17 PM

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2x8 2133 if not mistaken

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 9:17 PM

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^

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 9:17 PM

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They should call that thing Frankenstein

late sorrel Aug 28, 2019, 9:17 PM

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then you’ll probably getting a mobo and cpu then

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ah

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yeah you’re stuck

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 9:17 PM

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yeah we set him up with a mobo, cpu and psu to look into

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 9:18 PM

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wished he could have an SSD

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that thing would make a lot of computing life easy

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 9:18 PM

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he could def have one for cheap

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 9:18 PM

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haha

drifting plaza Aug 28, 2019, 9:18 PM

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tbh SSD doesnt make any difference..... if you constantly are moving files around then yeah....

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 9:19 PM

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wat?

drifting plaza Aug 28, 2019, 9:19 PM

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but for OS bootup for tight budget isnt worth it... imo

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 9:19 PM

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an SSD vs an HDD makes a TON of difference

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a 120GB SSD is 20 euros lol

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https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01N6JQS8C/?tag=pcp0f-21

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not only OS bootup, but a cpl of your main gamesd as well

drifting plaza Aug 28, 2019, 9:20 PM

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what he will do on his pc?

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 9:20 PM

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my old pre-built acer ran on an HDD, took over 5 mins to boot

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my current pc takes less than 30 seconds

drifting plaza Aug 28, 2019, 9:20 PM

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well, HDD depends how much junk, not useful cache still sits in there

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 9:21 PM

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best to use both in the end

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SSD for OS and a cpl games, HDD for the remainder of files

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 9:21 PM

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whatever he does on that, we can only hope he's not streaming 4K stereoscopic VR porn from that HDD

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 9:21 PM

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I have 2 SSDs and an HDD

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lol ^

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 9:21 PM

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ha ha ha

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 9:21 PM

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if he got a 300 euro budget he can't afford a 4k VR kit lol

drifting plaza Aug 28, 2019, 9:22 PM

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tbh if hes on tight budget i would recommend the ryzen 7 CPU more than SSD....

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 9:22 PM

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he's gaming on overwatch and csgo

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 9:22 PM

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@pallid cedar maybe THAT's why he's only got 300 euros left

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 9:22 PM

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no need for the 2700

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 9:22 PM

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LOL

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 9:22 PM

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LMAO

drifting plaza Aug 28, 2019, 9:22 PM

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CS:GO mostly depends on CPU ;)

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 9:22 PM

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I'm aware, but it's a game designed to handle single core

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 9:22 PM

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"I want VR porn in 4K with a Vive Pro"
"What do I tell what you are going to use the PC for to the GTFO PC community"
"tell them it's for budget gaming"

drifting plaza Aug 28, 2019, 9:23 PM

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LOL

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 9:23 PM

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lol

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 9:23 PM

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hey just joking, Debuti haha

drifting plaza Aug 28, 2019, 9:24 PM

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tbh he can afford r7 2700.... it costs ~200euro.... mobo 90euro... PSU 70euro.... that is 360euro... he said he has codes that will decrease price around 60euro... ez 300euro budget LOL

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xDDD

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 9:24 PM

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he really doesn't need it

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 9:24 PM

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you forgot the subscription fees to Czech VR

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 9:24 PM

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I have a 2700, I barely need it

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and I do recording and streaming, sometimes in 4k

drifting plaza Aug 28, 2019, 9:25 PM

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and do you stream from cpu or gpu?

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 9:25 PM

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cpu

drifting plaza Aug 28, 2019, 9:25 PM

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and will he stream/record aswell?

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 9:25 PM

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gpu is tasked with rendering gameplay at max settings

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no

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at least it was never mentioned

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just csgo and overwatch gaming

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moving on from an old laptop

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 9:26 PM

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pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 9:26 PM

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the 2600 has a higher base clock speed than the 2700, and with a stock cooler there is no overclocking going on.

drifting plaza Aug 28, 2019, 9:26 PM

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why does he need oc?

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 9:26 PM

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he doesn't

drifting plaza Aug 28, 2019, 9:27 PM

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and has base clock higher about 0.2Ghz

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 9:27 PM

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yup

drifting plaza Aug 28, 2019, 9:27 PM

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but r7 has 2 extra cores :D

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 9:27 PM

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for less money

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but he doesn't need the extra cores

drifting plaza Aug 28, 2019, 9:27 PM

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and both have default TDP 65W

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 9:27 PM

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he needs to save money to upgrade from his shitty gtx 960 tbh lol

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that is the bottleneck, not the cpu

drifting plaza Aug 28, 2019, 9:27 PM

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but in my opinion he can take the r7 2700 and in the future he wont need to worry about CPU....

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 9:28 PM

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he won't be worrying with the 2600 either

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that's the point

drifting plaza Aug 28, 2019, 9:28 PM

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well, you do you, but 2 extra cores are ALWAYS handy... good night its 12:28 atm

pallid cedar Aug 28, 2019, 9:28 PM

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handy if you use the pc to that extent

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if they don't, then it's a waste of money to put a 2700 in there when they need an SSD and a GPU upgrade

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good night

late sorrel Aug 28, 2019, 9:33 PM

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SSD is worth it if you don’t need the extra cores

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I don’t have any issues with my 2600

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 9:37 PM

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@late sorrel and @pallid cedar pets

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What @drifting plaza keeps as a pet

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late sorrel Aug 28, 2019, 9:40 PM

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uggggg 4 bars more like no bars

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dammit atnt

fleet canopy Aug 28, 2019, 10:45 PM

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Hm

fiery nacelle Aug 28, 2019, 11:34 PM

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https://www.centralcomputer.com/sapphire-vcx-11293-01-20g-pulse-rx-5700-xt-8gb-gddr6-pci-e-hdmi-triple-dp-retail.html

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late sorrel Aug 28, 2019, 11:38 PM

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mmm yeah

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fucking love sapphire

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tbh I need a "sapphire fanboy" role somewhere

bronze cloak Aug 29, 2019, 1:10 AM

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Ahaaa, I see we have a buildzoid in our midst

north bronze Aug 29, 2019, 5:38 AM

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Pulse vs PowerColor Red Devil who wins?

bronze cloak Aug 29, 2019, 11:50 AM

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PCB-wise the Red Devil for sure

late sorrel Aug 29, 2019, 12:50 PM

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P U L S E gang

fiery nacelle Aug 29, 2019, 1:15 PM

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Pulse overall I guess?

fiery nacelle Aug 29, 2019, 8:28 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RkwQTqki-0

steady summit Aug 30, 2019, 10:26 AM

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📎 20190829_222611.jpg

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My pc upgrade

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Btw i am taking an 2070 rtx from msi , not this one listed here

hexed horizon Aug 30, 2019, 10:31 AM

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Print screen

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And ctrl+v

steady summit Aug 30, 2019, 10:34 AM

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Nah, cuz i would 2 other screens aswell

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Don't need that

hexed horizon Aug 30, 2019, 10:50 AM

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Paint

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Ctrl+v

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Then cut off the rest

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With grabbing the corner of the wall thing

urban gulch Aug 30, 2019, 10:59 AM

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Do CTRL+ALT+Print screen

This will only print screen of the window that is selected

dusk frost Aug 30, 2019, 12:15 PM

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i know its kinda specific question but who knows... 2080ti Matrix have same mouting holes etc in pcb as Strix or there are some difference?

abstract kite Aug 30, 2019, 12:25 PM

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also since you're on win10, win + shift + s

sick reef Aug 30, 2019, 1:45 PM

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Actually Hardcore Overclocking might have a video on that PCB.

fiery nacelle Aug 30, 2019, 6:55 PM

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@steady summit For productivity as well?

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Also, why not consider a single M.2 1TB NVME instead of M.2 SATA 500GB + 2.5" SATA 500GB

steady summit Aug 30, 2019, 6:56 PM

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it is just for gaming and streaming, not for video editing

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and tbh that is okay for that price.

fiery nacelle Aug 30, 2019, 6:57 PM

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oh yeah for streaming the extra cpu cores would come in handy

steady summit Aug 30, 2019, 6:57 PM

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also overclocking is a good option

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yes :D

fiery nacelle Aug 30, 2019, 6:57 PM

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buying from a local store?

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oh wait, there is mindfactory

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Germany's largest retailer

steady summit Aug 30, 2019, 6:57 PM

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well i consider a clean new one, instead of a used one

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well they offer also new stuff

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*non retail

fiery nacelle Aug 30, 2019, 6:58 PM

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Do they have the Adata XPG SX8200 pro 1TB?

steady summit Aug 30, 2019, 6:58 PM

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idk

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i do not check the site often

fiery nacelle Aug 30, 2019, 6:58 PM

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Pretty much best value NVME SSD

steady summit Aug 30, 2019, 6:58 PM

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also as i said, i do not take the rtx2070 from mindfactory

fiery nacelle Aug 30, 2019, 6:58 PM

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samsung 970 evo speeds at cheap SATA SSD prices

steady summit Aug 30, 2019, 6:58 PM

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cuz it is not from msi

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i like Msi stuff to msi

fiery nacelle Aug 30, 2019, 6:59 PM

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maybe you would like to try...

steady summit Aug 30, 2019, 6:59 PM

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cuz same brand works actually better

fiery nacelle Aug 30, 2019, 6:59 PM

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mini ITX build?

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Found a nice case

steady summit Aug 30, 2019, 6:59 PM

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got a case allreasy :D

fiery nacelle Aug 30, 2019, 6:59 PM

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oh ok

steady summit Aug 30, 2019, 6:59 PM

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https://www.game-debate.com/cases/index.php?ca_id=793&cases=Delux SH891

Delux SH891 PC Cases for PC Gaming by Delux

Delux SH891 gaming PC Cases. Delux SH891 Cases PC hardware details

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this is my current one which i use aswell for upgrade

fiery nacelle Aug 30, 2019, 7:03 PM

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oh that looks like something from Thor

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or X men

steady summit Aug 30, 2019, 7:04 PM

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:D

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after this upgrade, my pc is a beast

fiery nacelle Aug 30, 2019, 7:04 PM

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The scary sentinels

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📎 15439_lian_li_lancool_tu150_handle_2.png

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📎 15440_lian_li_lancool_tu150_handle.png

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http://www.lian-li.com/pc-tu150/

steady summit Aug 30, 2019, 7:07 PM

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i stick to mine :D

fiery nacelle Aug 30, 2019, 7:07 PM

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Sure you're not tempted? LOL

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Water-washed brushed aluminium panels, tempered glass side panel, solid steel frame with retractable handle attached

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None of that flimsy plastic covers

steady summit Aug 30, 2019, 7:09 PM

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well i need something with utility

fiery nacelle Aug 30, 2019, 7:09 PM

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Space for 165mm full size Noctua tower CPU coolers and 3-SLOT 320mm GPU

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Only drawback is you'd have to get a 2x120mm magnetic fan filter at the bottom, and an SFX/SFX-L PSU

steady summit Aug 30, 2019, 7:10 PM

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see that is soemthing which i have to buy

urban gulch Aug 30, 2019, 7:10 PM

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too small for me

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XD

steady summit Aug 30, 2019, 7:10 PM

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and yewa looks small

fiery nacelle Aug 30, 2019, 7:10 PM

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easy to carry haha

steady summit Aug 30, 2019, 7:11 PM

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well idk about carring

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i need place and utility

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like some slots for usb, sound ecetera

fiery nacelle Aug 30, 2019, 7:12 PM

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Oh expansion slots for sound cards?

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Yeah none of that on mini-ITX boards

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Pretty much stuck with 1 slot for GPU

steady summit Aug 30, 2019, 7:20 PM

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well that is dump

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if you take everything in 1 gpu

fiery nacelle Aug 30, 2019, 7:26 PM

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Nowadays the mini ITX boards usually have built in Wifi, and a lot of users either settle for the integrated audio or being audiophiles, opt to buy external DACs or soundcards

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Dual GPU solutions aren't getting much support these days, understandably

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And hopefully the mini ITX board + case selected comes with sufficient USB 3.0 for all needs

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Also, increasingly more users are switching from bulky 3.5" HDDs to few 2.5" SSDs and towards m.2 form factors

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Whilst budget ITX boards may be stuck with 1x m.2 slot, the more premium ones do come with 2x m.2 slots

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So most users, not all, but most would be probably satisfied with a single expansion slot - the GPU

sick reef Aug 30, 2019, 8:39 PM

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Doesn't beat my Proliant tbqh

true mountain Aug 30, 2019, 8:39 PM

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Hey guys, got a new m.2 ssd 1TB and installed my OS onto it today and ran my PC benchmark at the userbenchmark site, and this is the result it gave me for my m2, can anybody tell me why? It's operating normally I think? This is my first time using one.

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https://gyazo.com/980de5096c24f58b16ced8fdac8ff67a

fleet canopy Aug 30, 2019, 8:40 PM

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I mean

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That's not too bad

sick reef Aug 30, 2019, 8:40 PM

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Because you're testing the drive you're running the OS on? thonk

fleet canopy Aug 30, 2019, 8:41 PM

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I'm gonna try a benchmark, see if it's the same for OS I guess?

sick reef Aug 30, 2019, 8:42 PM

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Dunno if it is. Could be lack of firmware, software, using other programs simultaneously

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Etc.

true mountain Aug 30, 2019, 8:42 PM

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Only had the benchmark app open and discord.

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Is it because the read/write speed is so low to what the max is?

fleet canopy Aug 30, 2019, 8:43 PM

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I have quite some programs on and in VC with music bot

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kek

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Will see how it is

sick reef Aug 30, 2019, 8:43 PM

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Average*

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Compared to an exactly similar M.2, it runs horribly.

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How is it set up physically?

true mountain Aug 30, 2019, 8:44 PM

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I mean.. connected to the motherboard..? idk what you mean lol

fleet canopy Aug 30, 2019, 8:45 PM

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Could be a biiit loose I guess is what Cat might mean?

true mountain Aug 30, 2019, 8:46 PM

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sick reef Aug 30, 2019, 8:46 PM

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Is it only connected straight on, does it have a heatpad, does it have a heatsink, what motherboard do you use, did you properly install the software for M.2, what speeds are supported for your motherboard, and a ton of other questions that could be interesting.

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That answers a few.

true mountain Aug 30, 2019, 8:46 PM

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10 gb/s is what it says on the mobo behind the ssd

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up to.

fleet canopy Aug 30, 2019, 8:46 PM

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:)

sick reef Aug 30, 2019, 8:47 PM

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You'd have to read the information file as of how it handles the memory and slots.

true mountain Aug 30, 2019, 8:48 PM

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Never heard of heatpad and heatsink for an ssd tbh.

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Not saying it's not a thing jsut never heard of personally haha

sick reef Aug 30, 2019, 8:49 PM

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You should check if the memory is supported, and, once again, if you have installed an M.2 controller

true mountain Aug 30, 2019, 8:50 PM

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Will do thanks 🙂