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late sorrel Aug 8, 2019, 1:00 AM

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depends

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on spec

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 1:00 AM

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which is gonna probably be like 2080 super

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;/

late sorrel Aug 8, 2019, 1:00 AM

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eh

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then it won’t take it

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 1:01 AM

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oof

late sorrel Aug 8, 2019, 1:01 AM

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You’ll be bottlekneckong

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 1:01 AM

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know the exact drop in perfomance?

late sorrel Aug 8, 2019, 1:01 AM

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actually

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I’m talking shit

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you’ll be fine

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 1:01 AM

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yay lol

late sorrel Aug 8, 2019, 1:01 AM

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Wait

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 1:01 AM

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??

late sorrel Aug 8, 2019, 1:02 AM

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It’s a 20% loss on fps

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I should google before I speak my mouth

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 1:02 AM

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Yes

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 1:02 AM

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oof

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i mean if i was to compare the 2080 super which is probably gonna be the equivilant of rx 5900

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to the 1060

late sorrel Aug 8, 2019, 1:03 AM

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I would look at maybe a 5700XT

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 1:04 AM

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Yes

late sorrel Aug 8, 2019, 1:04 AM

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that’s a better pairing

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 1:04 AM

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5900 XT is asdfaginoa nice but too much

late sorrel Aug 8, 2019, 1:04 AM

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mood

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 1:04 AM

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Right now

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 1:04 AM

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but im going to upgrade the cpu a month after ;/

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 1:04 AM

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Anything that's better than my 1060 3GB will be great for me

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 1:05 AM

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so the 20 % perfomance drop for a month isnt much of a problem for me

late sorrel Aug 8, 2019, 1:05 AM

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Well, ok then

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 1:05 AM

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2080 super gets 2.5 times more frames

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if we do the maths

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 1:05 AM

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Just go 3600 with a 5700 XT like I am or pair 5700 XT with 3700X if you want

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 1:06 AM

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it gets 140fps on b5

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122 with the 20 % loss

late sorrel Aug 8, 2019, 1:06 AM

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urg

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ok

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 1:06 AM

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Think of the price to performance ratio too btw

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 1:06 AM

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oh yeah

late sorrel Aug 8, 2019, 1:06 AM

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god the 570 is such a chad

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 1:07 AM

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still depends how much the 5900 is gonna be

late sorrel Aug 8, 2019, 1:07 AM

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fuckin .55 frames per dollar

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 1:07 AM

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thats godlik

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*godlike

late sorrel Aug 8, 2019, 1:07 AM

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Yee

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I mean I’m not utilising my CPU

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The 2600 can probably go up to a 5700XT as well

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 1:08 AM

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hmm

late sorrel Aug 8, 2019, 1:08 AM

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Our CPU’s are competitors after all

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 1:10 AM

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im just looking for something that will keep me up for 3 years 😃

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so when i get it in 2020 itll last till 2023

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ill just wait for 2020

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something may happen by then

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and if it does , ill be a happy little boi

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wait ryzen 3700x is equivalent to i9 9900k

late sorrel Aug 8, 2019, 1:17 AM

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Yep

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 1:17 AM

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thats op

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so is 3900x even better

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(Questioning intel)

late sorrel Aug 8, 2019, 1:18 AM

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Should be

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But it’s less for gaming

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 1:18 AM

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hmmm

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ryzen 3700x + rx 5900??????

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oppp

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you sure b450 supports 3000s?

late sorrel Aug 8, 2019, 1:21 AM

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yrd

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Yes

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 1:21 AM

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Yes

late sorrel Aug 8, 2019, 1:21 AM

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For a fact

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 1:21 AM

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Just gotta do BIOS update

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 1:21 AM

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i may sound dumb

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what is an bios update?

late sorrel Aug 8, 2019, 1:22 AM

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and even then, some of the newer mobo's have already done a bios update

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 1:22 AM

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You know that thing you press F4 for?

late sorrel Aug 8, 2019, 1:22 AM

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the tomahawk I've got has it already installed

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 1:22 AM

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When you start it up?

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Oh yeah

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Some of the B450 are already updated for that I forgotten

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 1:22 AM

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so they come already installed with it?

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 1:22 AM

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Some motherboards are

late sorrel Aug 8, 2019, 1:23 AM

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^

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 1:24 AM

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so which exact motherboard do you have evos?

late sorrel Aug 8, 2019, 1:24 AM

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I have the B450 Tomahawk from Micro-Star INC.

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 1:25 AM

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you mean msi?

late sorrel Aug 8, 2019, 1:25 AM

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yeah but it's more fun to say Micro-Star INC

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but yeah

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MSI

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 1:25 AM

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xD

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never knew it was micro start inc 😃

late sorrel Aug 8, 2019, 1:25 AM

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exactly GWchadThink

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 1:26 AM

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and it came with motherboard stands and screws?

late sorrel Aug 8, 2019, 1:26 AM

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Yep

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Same with your case

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it should come with them

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 1:26 AM

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ill be honest

late sorrel Aug 8, 2019, 1:26 AM

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Assuming you buy from a reputable manufacturer

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 1:26 AM

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i lost all the screws

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legit all of them

late sorrel Aug 8, 2019, 1:27 AM

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ono

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 1:27 AM

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only got the ones that are actually in use 😃

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and also i got a mini tx motherboard

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so im only using 4 screws

late sorrel Aug 8, 2019, 1:27 AM

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so you have a full atx case

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 1:27 AM

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or is it 6

late sorrel Aug 8, 2019, 1:27 AM

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but you're using a micro atx board

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 1:27 AM

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the case is can take matx

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yes

late sorrel Aug 8, 2019, 1:28 AM

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Can it take ATX

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not MATX

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not EATX

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but atx

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 1:28 AM

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yeah

late sorrel Aug 8, 2019, 1:28 AM

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can you link it?

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 1:28 AM

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any of that

late sorrel Aug 8, 2019, 1:28 AM

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pls link

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I just want to make sure

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 1:28 AM

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thats gonna be hard to find but gimme a minute

late sorrel Aug 8, 2019, 1:29 AM

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cool, don't worry

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 1:30 AM

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its a coolermaster

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cant work out which one

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but looks like

late sorrel Aug 8, 2019, 1:30 AM

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yikes

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 1:30 AM

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nr400 and nr 600

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ok it is not that

late sorrel Aug 8, 2019, 1:31 AM

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the NR400 cannot fit a ATX board

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 1:31 AM

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sry got it confused

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i mean

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i got a mini tx

late sorrel Aug 8, 2019, 1:32 AM

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mini ATX or mini ITX

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 1:32 AM

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and it only covers about 30 % of the surface area

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is there a difference

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lel

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gimme a moment

late sorrel Aug 8, 2019, 1:32 AM

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yeah

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there is

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📎 maxresdefault.png

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One's a little bit smaller

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but fine

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it doesn't superly matter

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 1:33 AM

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itx

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mini itx

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 1:33 AM

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Is it bad that they don't even look any different in size?

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 1:33 AM

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got 2 sticks of 8gb each

late sorrel Aug 8, 2019, 1:33 AM

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yes, actually

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 1:33 AM

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yeah

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its itx

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how many screws does an atx take?

late sorrel Aug 8, 2019, 1:34 AM

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like 9

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i think

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 1:34 AM

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give a sec

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lemme check

late sorrel Aug 8, 2019, 1:34 AM

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They're standard screws probably

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 1:34 AM

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how many screws does the mini tx take?

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*itx

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2x2?

late sorrel Aug 8, 2019, 1:35 AM

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depends

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 1:35 AM

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yeah for me its 2x2

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and the case can take 3x3

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an atx motherboard will fir easily

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also i swear atx is 2x3

late sorrel Aug 8, 2019, 1:36 AM

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my atx is a 3x3

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I mean ok

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but I just don't feel 100% sure that you know that it will fit

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 1:37 AM

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you know the dimensions?

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cuz i can check

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my case is pretty big

late sorrel Aug 8, 2019, 1:37 AM

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12 in. x 9.6 in. (30.5 cm x 24.4 cm)

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 1:38 AM

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give a sec

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gotta unscrew front cover

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tight fit but would fit

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31.5 x 25.5

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would have to uninstall the fan tho ;/

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but what dont you do for space

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lel

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you should see how hard it is to take out ram or a gpu in this

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lel

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why would my case have 9 screw slots if not for an atx motherboard anyway lel

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would 3600 be enough for rx 5700xt?

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 1:44 AM

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Ye

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With some nice overclocking, it'll be great

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 1:44 AM

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dont like overclocking ;/

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https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07FQ9ZJD9/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&psc=1

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would this motherboard work?

bronze cloak Aug 8, 2019, 5:08 AM

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absolutely, the tomahawk is one of the best B450 motherboards you can get

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 5:08 AM

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Yes

fiery nacelle Aug 8, 2019, 2:27 PM

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@naive anchor actually your cpu the i5 8400 is okay, you won't see a massive boost going to the Ryzen 5 3600 - just better security

sick reef Aug 8, 2019, 3:22 PM

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Isn't x400 always 4 core and 4 or 8 threads?

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 3:23 PM

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8400 is 6 cores 6 threads

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Pretty much anything intel x400 is 6 cores 6 threads

abstract kite Aug 8, 2019, 3:28 PM

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if you have atx your pp smol

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if want to know where i got my statistics: i have atx and mi pp smol 🕹

north bronze Aug 8, 2019, 3:35 PM

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my i5 is 4 core 4 threads

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literally the worst

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😦

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 3:35 PM

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Oof

north bronze Aug 8, 2019, 3:41 PM

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so yeah once I get that 3900X/3950X, i'll be living the dream

dense wasp Aug 8, 2019, 3:45 PM

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you going for it ?

normal ivy Aug 8, 2019, 3:47 PM

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I’d take the i9 9900k over it

abstract kite Aug 8, 2019, 3:51 PM

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why no one has posted pics of their setup? big thonk 🤔

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 3:52 PM

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Some of us have

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Also whatever is the reason you would go for a 9900K instead of a 3900X/3950X?

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 3:54 PM

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9900k is not worth it at all

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 3:54 PM

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I mean

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 3:54 PM

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3700x had basically same results

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at 200 less

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 3:55 PM

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a 3900X/3950X has different specs than a 9900K

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So probably that's why

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 3:55 PM

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true

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3900x isnt really for gaming tho is it?

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 3:56 PM

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Eh

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I mean

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It can be used for gaming

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 3:56 PM

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it basically perfoms same as 3700x

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 3:56 PM

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9900K wasn't exactly a gaming CPU lmao

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But it's been used to game with

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 3:56 PM

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so you may as well save yourself some money and get 3700x

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all im saying is unless you do other stuff than game then 3700x is way better than 3900x

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tbh

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give me a sec

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 3:57 PM

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Actually

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9900K is cheaper than a 3900X

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5% more speed on 9900K

normal ivy Aug 8, 2019, 3:58 PM

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The 9900k pretty much benchmarks as the best Gaming CPU to date

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 3:58 PM

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Better than 3900X for price kek

normal ivy Aug 8, 2019, 3:59 PM

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Plus yeah

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Over 600 for a CPU is a dead move

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 3:59 PM

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Totally can see why

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 4:00 PM

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wait

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Correct myself

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on fair games

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:00 PM

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I mean if you're going for a 3700X, you can get a 9900K for about 140$ more

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 4:00 PM

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3700x gets 5-10% less fps than i9 9900k

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:01 PM

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And Lordy is correct on one thing

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9900K is one of the best CPUs to dat atm

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 4:01 PM

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is it really worth it tho?

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:01 PM

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3900X is a more focused on workstation

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I mean

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If you check the userbenchmark

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9900K does 99-100% on all

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3900X does 95% on both gaming and desktop, but 132% on workstation

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So 9900K is a better choice for gaming

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 4:03 PM

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so its best to go intel cpu amd gpu?

normal ivy Aug 8, 2019, 4:03 PM

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Not heavily better, but factoring in price compared to 9900k still being better

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Makes it an easier choice

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:03 PM

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It's totally your choice depending

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I'm still going for AMD for the better performance and lower price

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Better than my current one, mind you

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It's anyone's choice to get what they want really

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Also for the fact

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9900K overclocks to 5GHz which is only about .5GHz more than 3900X

abstract kite Aug 8, 2019, 4:07 PM

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9900K is the fastest, nothing more to say

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:07 PM

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Ye

abstract kite Aug 8, 2019, 4:08 PM

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but for gaming you don't need anything more than a i5

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:08 PM

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True

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It's anyone's choice really

abstract kite Aug 8, 2019, 4:08 PM

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yeah it depends on your usecase

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 4:09 PM

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so if i was to get rx 5700xr or even 5900 which is coming out next year , would my i5 8400 be good with it?

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cuz i think nah

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:09 PM

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Is it not any more better to get a 3700X than a 3600 btw?

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I can accept the 130$ plus

abstract kite Aug 8, 2019, 4:10 PM

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2 years ago I bought my pc with a budget of 2k€:
gaming on a 1080p 144Hz monitor: gtx 1070
eletronic simulation and other monothreaded intensive tasks: 7700k

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I don't need a lot of cores

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:10 PM

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So pretty much not worth going for a 3700X at this point?

abstract kite Aug 8, 2019, 4:11 PM

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if you do rendering you may need those 16 cores cpu, if you do 4k gaming on 120Hz monitor you'll need some heavy lifting gpu, etc...

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 4:12 PM

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you guys ever played dying light?

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:12 PM

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Ye

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 4:12 PM

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did you like it?

abstract kite Aug 8, 2019, 4:12 PM

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tbh 3400G and 3200G looks interesting, I'd take that for gaming

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:12 PM

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Loved the mix of zombies and parkour

abstract kite Aug 8, 2019, 4:13 PM

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for a good gaming pc I'd take a 3600X

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 4:13 PM

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hmmm

abstract kite Aug 8, 2019, 4:13 PM

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mini itx 2060 + 3600X
that sounds awesome

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 4:13 PM

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what could you compare 3600x to?

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:14 PM

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It's only .2GHz more though

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Than the 3600

abstract kite Aug 8, 2019, 4:14 PM

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a medium i7 I guess

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 4:14 PM

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i see

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:14 PM

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It's about the same as a 8700K

abstract kite Aug 8, 2019, 4:14 PM

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if you want an accurate answer you can look on cpu userbench

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:14 PM

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Ye

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https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-5-3600X-vs-Intel-Core-i7-8700K/4041vs3937

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91.4% on 3600X, 92% on 8700K

abstract kite Aug 8, 2019, 4:15 PM

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but much cheaper

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:15 PM

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8700K is also cheaper ig

abstract kite Aug 8, 2019, 4:15 PM

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and PICe 4

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:15 PM

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Wait uhh

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I'm blind nvm

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 4:15 PM

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lel

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was gonna say

abstract kite Aug 8, 2019, 4:15 PM

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oof

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 4:15 PM

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8700 cheaper oof

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:16 PM

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Xaetral is correct about 3600X cheaper

abstract kite Aug 8, 2019, 4:16 PM

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amd is the true winner for this round

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:16 PM

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AMD always win on price to performance lmao

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 4:16 PM

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id have to get a new motherboard and then get a amd cpu

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:16 PM

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Just not against the stupid and ridiculous Nvidia compositing themselves

abstract kite Aug 8, 2019, 4:17 PM

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gpu these days are garbage imo

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 4:17 PM

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???

abstract kite Aug 8, 2019, 4:17 PM

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but that's just my opinion

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:17 PM

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AMD GPUs?

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 4:17 PM

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Whys that?

abstract kite Aug 8, 2019, 4:17 PM

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nvidia didn't made any advancement

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 4:17 PM

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amd ?

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:17 PM

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NoVideo never does

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Always the same thing

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bleh

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Just 'Super'

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RTX

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Nothing special tbh

abstract kite Aug 8, 2019, 4:18 PM

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twice the performance, twice the price, half the max number of card in a pc

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RTX

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:18 PM

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RTX was a big improvement

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Just not the Super lmao

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 4:18 PM

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ray tracing is what they were working on i guess?

abstract kite Aug 8, 2019, 4:18 PM

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as for super it's just a 2065 and a 2075

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nothing new

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:18 PM

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Ye

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It's pretty lame

abstract kite Aug 8, 2019, 4:18 PM

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the real improvement comes from the 1660

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:19 PM

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How so?

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I've just heard bad stuff about it

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Nothing else

abstract kite Aug 8, 2019, 4:19 PM

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it's basicaly RTX but you replace raytracing and neural shit by cuda cores

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:19 PM

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Ah

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 4:20 PM

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or as nvidia puts it TI

abstract kite Aug 8, 2019, 4:20 PM

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shame that there isn't any 1670 and 1680

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:20 PM

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Eh

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scre I don't see anything delivered to me

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I bought stuff and they haven't come because it's either still coming or they were never paid for in the first place because of some failed payment

abstract kite Aug 8, 2019, 4:22 PM

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hehe pwogwaming socks

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:22 PM

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uwu

abstract kite Aug 8, 2019, 4:22 PM

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impressive how it both looks like programming and progaming

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:23 PM

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Yes

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Programmers are pro gamers

abstract kite Aug 8, 2019, 4:23 PM

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just because I forgot a m XD

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 4:24 PM

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whats the difference between msi b450 tomahawk and msi b450 tomahawk max lel?

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:24 PM

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Dunno

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Probably just more stuff you wouldn't use on the max

normal ivy Aug 8, 2019, 4:25 PM

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It depends if you wanna run games or run them with specs cranked and still get high FPS

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 4:25 PM

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wait does b450 not support nvidia gpus?

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:25 PM

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That's ridiculous

normal ivy Aug 8, 2019, 4:25 PM

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Or if you’re just building an OP system for longevity

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:25 PM

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motherboards are only depending on what CPU it is

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GPUs can go on any motherboard

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 4:26 PM

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hmmm this one says it can only take amd gpus lel

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:26 PM

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lolwut?

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lemme see

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 4:26 PM

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https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07VB2BG3X/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A17AS5ETPMZ9A1&psc=1

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:27 PM

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Nothing about GPU specific

normal ivy Aug 8, 2019, 4:27 PM

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I can tell by just looking at the slot it can take Nvidia GPU

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 4:27 PM

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alrighty

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:27 PM

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So there is a motherboard that only accepts one of either AMD or Nvidia?

normal ivy Aug 8, 2019, 4:28 PM

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Highly doubt it

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:28 PM

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Eh

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 4:28 PM

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now im confused

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:28 PM

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I'd be surprised if there was

normal ivy Aug 8, 2019, 4:28 PM

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Idk what company would risk crumpling sales by making a specific GPU mobo

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CPU yeah

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But that’s way different

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:28 PM

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I think it's for like a combo

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 4:28 PM

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i still find different sockets dumb

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lel

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:29 PM

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Dunno why it ever says that but really, any GPU can go on any motherboard

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 4:29 PM

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just use the same scoket

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*socket

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:29 PM

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I mean

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 4:29 PM

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that way people are more likely to change to your brand

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:29 PM

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If there was all the same sockets

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 4:29 PM

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like if you have a 1151 socket like me

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:29 PM

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Then there'd be one superior motherboard over all

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 4:29 PM

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and want to get an amd processor you would have to get a new motherboard too

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true

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lel

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:30 PM

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And the CPU might even need the motherboard to be different

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Like

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I don't know pretty much

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But it's best for sales tbh

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 4:31 PM

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yeah fck it

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imma just wait till 2020

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:31 PM

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e_e

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 4:31 PM

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just before spring

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see whats new

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then ill make the decisions

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:32 PM

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There's always gonna be something new

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 4:32 PM

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nvidia may pull something out of their arse

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or amd makes even more powerful stuff

normal ivy Aug 8, 2019, 4:32 PM

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I doubt there would be a 2080ti successor by then

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:32 PM

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I'm just waiting for aftermarket 5700 XT tbh

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 4:32 PM

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im talking cpus

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:33 PM

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Nvidia doesn't make CPUs

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 4:33 PM

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sry

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intel

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:33 PM

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kek

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 4:33 PM

#

lel

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:33 PM

#

Again

normal ivy Aug 8, 2019, 4:33 PM

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That’s what confused me lol

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 4:33 PM

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yo i always think of intel and nvidia as same brand

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:33 PM

#

I mean

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Intel and Nvidia is the best together for performance

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They're both one of the higher end market companies

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It's also funny how AMD pulled a sneaky on nvidia with the pricing

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Kind of feels scummy though tbh

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 4:35 PM

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xD

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that shitt was epic

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like a uno reverse card

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if intel pulls something thats the same or better than the ryzen 3700x

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then ill probably go for that

wheat magnet Aug 8, 2019, 4:37 PM

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That price stunt was amazing tbh

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:38 PM

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I'm not really sure whether to go for nvidia's 2080s for the RTX and better performances or keep with the 5700 XT for price

wheat magnet Aug 8, 2019, 4:38 PM

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A big middle finger towards the competition, I lowkey adored it. It is a but scummy but hey, if it works it works lmao

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:38 PM

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Kind of disappointing tbh lmao

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 4:38 PM

#

if you care about ray tracing

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then 2080 obviously

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:38 PM

#

2080s is like

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No one cares about it

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 4:38 PM

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but if you just want perfomance then 5700xt

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:38 PM

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Ehh

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 4:38 PM

#

you save quite some money you can use on other stuff

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:38 PM

#

Isn't 2080s like

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Better performance than a 5700 XT?

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 4:39 PM

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hmm yeah

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but for the price

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;/

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and i swear its only like 10frames

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:39 PM

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https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-2080-Super-vs-AMD-RX-5700-XT/4050vs4045

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The pricing of 300$ is alright too

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I managed to get my PC list build to 1100$ lmao

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I don't know how but it's neat

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 4:39 PM

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wait what

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:40 PM

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Yah

#

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DDtRjy

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 4:40 PM

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since when is rtx 2080 super £530

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:40 PM

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2080s is pretty much like price of 2080

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 4:40 PM

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yeah

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prices in uk are weird

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:40 PM

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Other countries economy gets price changed like

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Idk

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It's so weird

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 4:41 PM

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you pay the same amount but in £

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it would be better if you could just buy from us lel

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:41 PM

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kek

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Isn't China like

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Really cheap on parts?

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 4:41 PM

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true

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but theyre dodgy sometimes

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:42 PM

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True

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 4:42 PM

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and how are you gonna get them lel

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2080 super is sexy af

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but the rx 5700xr is better for the price

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you can also consider going crossfire with it

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wait

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wtf

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so in us the difference between rtx 2080 super and rx 5700xr is $300?

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:44 PM

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You can't crossfire a 5700 XT

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You just can't

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I don't think you can even SLI a 2080s either

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 4:45 PM

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whys that?

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:45 PM

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Dunno, it sucks

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I mean, probably like

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 4:45 PM

#

maybe with the customs?

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:45 PM

#

The aftermarket? Probably

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I don't think we'll see a chance of being able to crossfire a 5700XT

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 4:45 PM

#

red devil will come out on the 13 or 14th i think

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:46 PM

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Unless someone does some modding to the 5700XT, it might be possible

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 4:46 PM

#

i can imagine someone sling 4 rtx 2080 super

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lel

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he turns it on and the entire power goes out

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youd need like a 2000w psu

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:47 PM

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lmao oof

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 4:48 PM

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yeah like 2000w

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mad

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:48 PM

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Oh they already had the aftermarkets released for 2080s

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You actually don't need 2000W lmao

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4 2080s is 1000W in total

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 4:48 PM

#

psus use kilowatts right?

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:48 PM

#

Without a GPU, the parts go for like

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 4:49 PM

#

i mean

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:49 PM

#

200W or something

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 4:49 PM

#

have you took into consideration the cpu motherboard

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and all that stuff?

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:49 PM

#

Again

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 4:49 PM

#

i can imagine youd need some strong ass cpu

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:49 PM

#

In total it's like

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200-300W

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 4:49 PM

#

and a motherboard

#

does storage consume power too?

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yeah it does

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:50 PM

#

I've seen something about 4 SLI 2080 Ti and a 8700K?

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 4:50 PM

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lol dumb q

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yo

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:50 PM

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I mean

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I don't think I've seen 4

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Only 2

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 4:51 PM

#

userbenchmark asays the cheapest 2080s is 521

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the cheapest i found is 680

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lel

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:51 PM

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I found a 1080 Ti selling for 440$ during idk

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Zotac 1080 TI

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 4:52 PM

#

link?

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i bet in uk its like 500

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:52 PM

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They usually sell a 1080 Ti for 800$-1200$

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 4:52 PM

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yeah ik

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tbh

#

do you think 1080 ti will go down in value ?

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:53 PM

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Didn't they stop making 1080 Ti?

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 4:53 PM

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idk

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:53 PM

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Pretty sure they have

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Since the RTX release

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 4:53 PM

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yeah but people will move to rtx

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so the gtx market share will be low

abstract kite Aug 8, 2019, 4:53 PM

#

widepeepoHappy

📎 ratemysetupjpeg.jpg

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 4:54 PM

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bruv

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i tho you were playing the game

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 4:54 PM

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lmao

abstract kite Aug 8, 2019, 4:54 PM

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maybe i was 😃

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 4:54 PM

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hmmmmm

abstract kite Aug 8, 2019, 4:54 PM

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big thonk 🤔

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 4:54 PM

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pepe god

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now i just gotta wait till march next year

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for the news

#

unless some magical deal pulls up on me

hexed horizon Aug 8, 2019, 5:11 PM

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📎 20190808_191109.jpg

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Where is my Samsung M.2

#

It doesn't recognize it

#

Maybe it died? I just used my computer 3 hours ago

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 5:12 PM

#

Uhh

#

Maybe it got a bit loose? I doubt it

hexed horizon Aug 8, 2019, 5:13 PM

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I doubt it

#

Ehh

#

Ok it works?

#

Yeah. Also, time to move every important thing to Google drive

#

I can't risk it

#

I just turned off the power supply, waited 10 seconds then turned back on

#

now it recognized my SSD and I could boot up

normal ivy Aug 8, 2019, 5:32 PM

#

I tried using an m2 and it failed on me within a week of having it

hexed horizon Aug 8, 2019, 5:50 PM

#

I guess think thats only a problem on your side

#

M.2 SSD-s should be pretty darn good

#

with their reading and writing speeds

normal ivy Aug 8, 2019, 5:57 PM

#

It was pure unluckiness honestly

#

I’ll probably attempt another m2 in the future but for now that got me to roll with a SSD

#

I should try a Samsung instead of a crucial M2

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 6:35 PM

#

question

#

are all barracuda drives the same size?

hexed horizon Aug 8, 2019, 6:35 PM

#

What's your question soldier

#

Seagate Barracuda?

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 6:36 PM

#

yes

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 6:36 PM

#

Like

#

3.5 or 2.5?

#

Or with space?

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 6:36 PM

#

3.5

#

2.5

#

but that answers my question

#

theyre not

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 6:36 PM

#

All have either 2.5 or 3.5

hexed horizon Aug 8, 2019, 6:36 PM

#

3.5 inch for regualar computer cases, and 2,5 for laptops

#

usually

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 6:37 PM

#

I mean, PC cases also have 2.5 slots

hexed horizon Aug 8, 2019, 6:37 PM

#

Well, yes. Those are usually for the 2.5 Inch SSD-s

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 6:37 PM

#

can i put 2.5 in a pc?

hexed horizon Aug 8, 2019, 6:38 PM

#

but you can use a 2.5 HDD on desktop if you are a madlad

#

Yes, you can.

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 6:38 PM

#

kk

#

thx

hexed horizon Aug 8, 2019, 6:38 PM

#

it's just a bit weird

#

At least for me.

naive anchor Aug 8, 2019, 6:38 PM

#

i got 1tb hdd

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and 250gb ssd

#

and i kinda need to replace the hdd

#

my motherboard can only take 2 drives btw

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 6:42 PM

#

Why would

#

A motherboard take drives? GWmythicalThonkCool

#

Is there only two places to plug in the SSD/HDD?

normal ivy Aug 8, 2019, 6:50 PM

#

Must be an old fashioned mobo if it has only 2 sata drives

hexed horizon Aug 8, 2019, 6:52 PM

#

Or ITX ?

#

I always liked ITX mobos, in small cases, they are cute.

bronze cloak Aug 8, 2019, 7:23 PM

#

#bringbackmicroatx

north bronze Aug 8, 2019, 7:39 PM

#

Will the 3950X be much of an upgrade from the 3900X?

#

(also rate my choice of a cooler since apparently stock for a 3900X is a bad idea): https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Erlite/saved/bJ7Mcf

late sorrel Aug 8, 2019, 7:51 PM

#

I don’t know

#

If I remember correctly, the 3950 just has more cores

#

and it’s a little bit better in multi core

#

Well, “should” be

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 7:53 PM

#

Dark Rock Pro 4 is one of the best they have apparently

north bronze Aug 8, 2019, 7:54 PM

#

aight and nice

#

eh i'll stick with a 3900X for now

#

2.1k is already one hell of a budget

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 7:57 PM

#

I mean

#

If you want, you can see my build which isn't too much different and you can use that to help since it's 1K cheaper >w<

late sorrel Aug 8, 2019, 8:00 PM

#

he wants the cores tho

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 8:00 PM

#

Well

late sorrel Aug 8, 2019, 8:00 PM

#

pRoDuCtIviTy

#

but I would agree

fleet canopy Aug 8, 2019, 8:00 PM

#

I don't think he'd need to pay 2K for that

north bronze Aug 8, 2019, 8:00 PM

#

More cores, less of Building 51 actions with 4 processes while compiling C++

#

and less coffee breaks while I wait 5 minutes for the compiler to finish, while a guy on my team takes 36 seconds with a 2600X

#

LUL

vague lake Aug 8, 2019, 9:10 PM

#

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nF3w-xnkRwE

#

linus did it

naive anchor Aug 9, 2019, 1:08 AM

#

how do you know what motherboard standoffs to use?

#

and screws

sick reef Aug 9, 2019, 4:38 AM

#

Regular for a regular case. The distance is standardised. Screws too, which is M3 I believe.

#

I had to use special 1CM for mine, I also adapted an old server for new parts, so it doesn't apply unless you do the same.

#

M3 means they are 3mm wide, and standard thread.

#

Think standard thread is 0.5, but not fully certain.

#

Doesn't fully matter. If it id M3, it's M3. Otherwise it would say stuff like M3x1.5 or similar other alternatives.

north bronze Aug 9, 2019, 1:09 PM

#

Does the MSI MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard support G.Skill Trident Z RGB RAM?

fiery nacelle Aug 9, 2019, 1:10 PM

#

MSI?

#

Does a Giga Bite?

north bronze Aug 9, 2019, 1:11 PM

#

:?

fiery nacelle Aug 9, 2019, 1:13 PM

#

oh I meant do consider Gigabyte's motherboards this generation of X570

north bronze Aug 9, 2019, 1:14 PM

#

any big difference?

urban gulch Aug 9, 2019, 1:18 PM

#

It does support as far as i read. @north bronze

north bronze Aug 9, 2019, 1:19 PM

#

nice

fiery nacelle Aug 9, 2019, 1:19 PM

#

Better UEFI/firmware support this generation + better VRMs

sick reef Aug 9, 2019, 1:28 PM

#

I know Gamers Nexus did a video with the help of Buildzoid on specifically X570 Motherboards.

north bronze Aug 9, 2019, 2:05 PM

#

Aight so is there anything I can do to save a bit of money here?

#

https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/jYWHYT

fleet canopy Aug 9, 2019, 2:06 PM

#

Is it really required to have a X570 board for 3900X?

#

I know you can use B450 for 3600 to I think 3700X?

#

I'm not sure if it's the same for 3900X

north bronze Aug 9, 2019, 2:07 PM

#

Something something vrm not good enough for the 3900X @fleet canopy

fleet canopy Aug 9, 2019, 2:08 PM

#

Ah, alright

north bronze Aug 9, 2019, 2:10 PM

#

I might just get rid of the NVMe for now

#

a standard SSD should be plenty enough

fleet canopy Aug 9, 2019, 2:11 PM

#

Ye

#

Unless you do want the speed GWworkshopAkaShrug

north bronze Aug 9, 2019, 2:12 PM

#

I do want speed but idk if an nvme is overkill or not

#

eh yeah probably overkill

#

hmm I might just go with a 512GB NVMe and a 1TB SSD

urban gulch Aug 9, 2019, 2:25 PM

#

yis

fiery nacelle Aug 9, 2019, 3:00 PM

#

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/cn65yn/memes_about_asus_bios_tardiness_aside_msi_seems/

#

@north bronze

#

Just be aware

📎 unknown.png

north bronze Aug 9, 2019, 3:01 PM

#

oof

urban gulch Aug 9, 2019, 3:02 PM

#

Eh blobshrug

fiery nacelle Aug 9, 2019, 3:05 PM

#

If you're willing to go with looser CAS latency for the 2x16gb DDR4-3200 RGB RAM kit from 16 to 14, then the price may drop by as much as 50+ Euros too

#

https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/product/FPYLrH/gskill-trident-z-rgb-32gb-2-x-16gb-ddr4-3200-memory-f4-3200c16d-32gtzr

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Also

#

📎 15652740654974111308760714107047.png

#

Will there be 4-way SMT?

#

Will we get to see mainstream Ryzen 4000 series at 16 cores / 64 threads?

#

Better still Threadripper 4 at 32 cores / 128 threads

naive anchor Aug 9, 2019, 10:11 PM

#

wait

#

can an mini itx motherboard take a 3 slot gpu?

late sorrel Aug 9, 2019, 10:18 PM

#

Probably

#

As long as your case does

#

A three slot isn’t a physical motherboard thing

#

It’s referring to the height

#

So your case would need three of these:

📎 image0.jpg

#

Pictured is a single slot GPU

late sorrel Aug 9, 2019, 10:36 PM

#

@naive anchor ok?

late sorrel Aug 9, 2019, 10:56 PM

#

My double slot GPU:

📎 image0.jpg

#

and I swear to god leave me and my cable management alone

jovial shoal Aug 9, 2019, 10:56 PM

#

nice

late sorrel Aug 9, 2019, 10:57 PM

#

As long as your micro itx mobo has a PCIe3 or 4 slot, any PCIe GPU can go in, it’s the case that determines the amount of slots you have

#

most do have three+ so I wouldn’t worry

#

Especially when you’ve got an ATX case which can usually have 7-ish slots

naive anchor Aug 10, 2019, 12:44 AM

#

yeah

#

i got 7 slots

chrome chasm Aug 10, 2019, 12:45 AM

#

but its soo big.

naive anchor Aug 10, 2019, 12:45 AM

#

whats so big?

late sorrel Aug 10, 2019, 12:45 AM

#

he's talking about you're triple slot

#

that's pretty big

#

Like, I've not seen one even on youtube

#

also

#

📎 unknown.png

#

yes hello amd I don't think a 3900x is really worth it for gaming

chrome chasm Aug 10, 2019, 12:46 AM

#

nice

naive anchor Aug 10, 2019, 12:46 AM

#

well

late sorrel Aug 10, 2019, 12:46 AM

#

a 5700XT on the other hand....

#

📎 unknown.png

#

I mean I know it exists

naive anchor Aug 10, 2019, 12:46 AM

#

rtx 2070 super is 3 slot

late sorrel Aug 10, 2019, 12:46 AM

#

yeah but amd gang

naive anchor Aug 10, 2019, 12:46 AM

#

and i think r 5700xr is 2,5

late sorrel Aug 10, 2019, 12:46 AM

#

A M D G A N G

#

yeah, I see that

naive anchor Aug 10, 2019, 12:46 AM

#

where did you get that?

#

app?

late sorrel Aug 10, 2019, 12:46 AM

#

I just don't look at high end

#

This is RADEON SETTINGS

#

if you get a radeon GPU this is where your settings are at

naive anchor Aug 10, 2019, 12:47 AM

#

ok

#

lol

late sorrel Aug 10, 2019, 12:47 AM

#

instead of NVIDIA's GeForce Experience

naive anchor Aug 10, 2019, 12:47 AM

#

k

late sorrel Aug 10, 2019, 12:47 AM

#

that's where you go if you get an nvidia

#

anyway

#

glad you've got a compatable case

naive anchor Aug 10, 2019, 12:48 AM

#

yeah

#

it looks like a really tight fit tho

#

the cables under the gpu made me worry

#

but glad to know its ok

#

thx

#

btw

#

you think rx 5700xt will be able to run games at 1080p ultra 144 fps

late sorrel Aug 10, 2019, 12:51 AM

#

absolutely

naive anchor Aug 10, 2019, 12:52 AM

#

every game xD?

late sorrel Aug 10, 2019, 12:52 AM

#

I get that with a 570 if I lower the specs a bit

#

maybe not AAA games

#

like shadow of the tomb raider

#

but like

naive anchor Aug 10, 2019, 12:52 AM

#

actually

late sorrel Aug 10, 2019, 12:52 AM

#

98% of all games

naive anchor Aug 10, 2019, 12:52 AM

#

rx 5800 and 5900 should be able to

#

right?

#

xD

late sorrel Aug 10, 2019, 12:52 AM

#

they all should really

chrome chasm Aug 10, 2019, 12:52 AM

#

which one are the 2%

late sorrel Aug 10, 2019, 12:53 AM

#

I'm checking

chrome chasm Aug 10, 2019, 12:53 AM

#

Unless they are terribly unoptimized games..

late sorrel Aug 10, 2019, 12:53 AM

#

oh wait

#

fuck

naive anchor Aug 10, 2019, 12:53 AM

#

i just played ac origins

#

not gonna lie i was surprised

#

lol

#

ive got 1060 3gb i5 8400 16gb 2133mhz ram and the game on ultra was unplayable

#

lel

#

had to go down to mid high

late sorrel Aug 10, 2019, 12:54 AM

#

Odessy you will get 70fps

#

I mean

#

SOTTR is at 117

#

I mean

chrome chasm Aug 10, 2019, 12:54 AM

#

how the hell a 1060 cant run ACO?

naive anchor Aug 10, 2019, 12:54 AM

#

on ultra cant

#

the game simply drops to 30 in random spots

#

sometimes 20

#

averages around 50

late sorrel Aug 10, 2019, 12:55 AM

#

just bump the settings down like two notches and you will get 144hz

#

do you really need ultra

naive anchor Aug 10, 2019, 12:55 AM

#

nah

#

just was wondering

chrome chasm Aug 10, 2019, 12:55 AM

#

Well you can turn down a few hungry stuff like SSBHAO+ or whatever.

naive anchor Aug 10, 2019, 12:55 AM

#

i did that

#

worked

#

had constant 60 withoutdrops

chrome chasm Aug 10, 2019, 12:55 AM

#

No need to turn everything to high, its still going to be full ultra to me.

naive anchor Aug 10, 2019, 12:55 AM

#

still surprised

#

cuz im pretty sure i got higher on oddysey

late sorrel Aug 10, 2019, 12:56 AM

#

📎 unknown.png

#

Odyssey

naive anchor Aug 10, 2019, 12:56 AM

#

thats really good

late sorrel Aug 10, 2019, 12:56 AM

#

red=1080p, blue 2k, yellow 4k

naive anchor Aug 10, 2019, 12:56 AM

#

id just lower the settings to high maybe mid and its ez

#

also the 5800 and 5900 are gonna be better

#

so there may not even be a need

late sorrel Aug 10, 2019, 12:58 AM

#

BFV It's 115-81fps

#

I mean

naive anchor Aug 10, 2019, 12:58 AM

#

81 ?

late sorrel Aug 10, 2019, 12:58 AM

#

See, I was really expecting higher benches overall the gpu's

#

To see it being this shoddy is a suprise

#

like a 2080Ti in my mind was getting 300 on most graphics hungry games

naive anchor Aug 10, 2019, 12:59 AM

#

oh nah

late sorrel Aug 10, 2019, 12:59 AM

#

yeah

naive anchor Aug 10, 2019, 12:59 AM

#

that shitt may come in lie 2023

#

bruv

late sorrel Aug 10, 2019, 12:59 AM

#

I'm just saying that's what me 1.5 years ago thought

naive anchor Aug 10, 2019, 12:59 AM

#

ohh

#

still

#

if you look at it

#

the 1080 ti at the time got lower frame rates on the graphics hungry games than rtx 2080 ti does on gpu hungry games now

#

at least i think so

#

probably because games are better optimised or the graphics didnt get MUCH better

#

although the games still look nicer

#

so there may come a time in a few years when gpus will be way ahead of the games 😃

#

also

#

you guys reckon amd will get their gpus to have ray tracing

late sorrel Aug 10, 2019, 1:03 AM

#

I mean

#

Right now, it's most definitely a gimmick

#

But, I guess they could make it happen

#

Depends on how much money they throw at the game developers

dense wasp Aug 10, 2019, 11:11 AM

#

anyone into x299 motherboards? 😛
LGA2066

sick reef Aug 10, 2019, 11:11 AM

#

Yeah, a bit.

#

I have a 7940X, and X299 Dark.

dense wasp Aug 10, 2019, 11:31 AM

#

I might be getting one of the 9900x or similar.
should be looking into a good Mb fori t

sick reef Aug 10, 2019, 11:44 AM

#

Huh. How weird, the 7000X series has increased in price again, now that the 9000X is released, though they are kind of the same product, rereleased.

#

X299 Dark is a good motherboard, from personal experience. Especially the Bios menu, alternatives, and trouble shooting features.

#

But it depends on what you need out of it, obviously.

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Both X-series CPU's are the same Kaby Lake architecture, which you know, it's 7-series Intel. Dunno what they did the 9-series X, but it's still the same architecture, with marginal gains compared to 7-series equals.

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I have no idea why they can't use the 8-gen architecture, as they boasted that it had multi-threading improvements, which I mean, for a CPU with that many threads, would be great. Though, I've waited for that since the launch of 8-series, and that's seemingly never happening, as now we have 9X that is same chips as 7X, just slightly better.

dense wasp Aug 10, 2019, 11:52 AM

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Not complaining in getting at as dev etc.

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was looking at the TUF X299 MARK 1, seems alright.

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the Dark one looked good as well though

sick reef Aug 10, 2019, 11:56 AM

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So, what are you hooking it up with, apart from the CPU?

dense wasp Aug 10, 2019, 11:56 AM

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I have a 2080 ti on the floor next to me that I haven't used yet

fleet canopy Aug 10, 2019, 11:57 AM

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On the floor? GWmythicalThonkCool

dense wasp Aug 10, 2019, 11:57 AM

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yeah, they are literally on the floor atm.. haha

hexed horizon Aug 10, 2019, 11:57 AM

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in cold countries like Sweden people buy more AMD so that they need to pay less on heating overall

sick reef Aug 10, 2019, 11:57 AM

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So, a graphics card only? A few HDD/SSD, and nothing really else?

dense wasp Aug 10, 2019, 11:59 AM

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M.2 Disk, probably a Samsung 970 Evo plus, or pro,
32GB ram probably, not sure what brand yet.
probably an EVGA or Seasonic PSU.

hexed horizon Aug 10, 2019, 11:59 AM

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Yeah yeah sure, but can it run crysis

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❔

sick reef Aug 10, 2019, 12:00 PM

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I saw the price for the Dark now, and I realise why you hesitate. Here's what I bought it for

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Why is it so expensive now? thonking

dense wasp Aug 10, 2019, 12:00 PM

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haha, yeah, It's double that now

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at least here in Sweden it's $700

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€*

sick reef Aug 10, 2019, 12:01 PM

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You could have bought it directly from EVGA.

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It works.

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Tends to be cheaper as well.

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I guess I dodged a big bullet by not waiting for the 9X release.

dense wasp Aug 10, 2019, 12:02 PM

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haha yeah.
May go 64gb RAM, not sure.

sick reef Aug 10, 2019, 12:03 PM

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Make sure it's supported. Maybe the TUF ain't that bad. If you're only going one M.2 Drive, it shouldn't be an issue. Just make sure you get your lanes right.

dense wasp Aug 10, 2019, 12:05 PM

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aside from having a silly name though,
"The Ultimate Force" wtf. . haha

sick reef Aug 10, 2019, 12:05 PM

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The ultimate force?

dense wasp Aug 10, 2019, 12:05 PM

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TUF

sick reef Aug 10, 2019, 12:05 PM

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Ah, lulw

fleet canopy Aug 10, 2019, 12:06 PM

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The Ultimate Force...totally not ultimate at all

sick reef Aug 10, 2019, 12:06 PM

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With a 44-lane CPU, you can get 16/16/8 output, and that ain't half bad. Wonder how it handles PCH and M.2.

dense wasp Aug 10, 2019, 12:08 PM

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Yeah even though I've worked with building computers the past like 10 years, I've never really dove down in those kind of numbers tbh 😃

sick reef Aug 10, 2019, 12:09 PM

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Well, the X299 Dark makes it quite easy because it has specific sections for everything in its Manual.

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With the TUF manual, It's a bit of a search.

dense wasp Aug 10, 2019, 12:10 PM

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Wonder if I should do something more classy in buying a lianli pc 011 or something in that style.
Or just go Fractal Design soundproof minimalistic as I always do..haha

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Even though I'm aircooling it.

sick reef Aug 10, 2019, 12:11 PM

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I don't know about those things. As said for eons by me, I made my own case, because modern cases make me angry to look at from a practical standpoint.

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Okay, one thing of note:
The third 16-lane PCIe and the first 4-lane can not be active simultaneously.

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And the second 4-lane PCIe disables Sata connections 5 through 8 if active.

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So it will use PCH lanes.

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It doesn't say which lanes the M.2 uses, but the that goes along the board can use both SATA or PCIe lanes, and the vertical one can only use PCIe lanes. I assume it has its own dedicated stuff.

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Any way, I think that's all you need to be worried about.

dense wasp Aug 10, 2019, 12:20 PM

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yeah that shouldn't be a problem,
only the GPU and M.2 that would use the pci-stuff anyway

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but good to keep in mind

sick reef Aug 10, 2019, 12:21 PM

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I did manage to "kill" my board when I tried to do my first install by putting my PCIe drive on the PCH lanes.

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It also always favored the M.2 slot instead of the PCIe lane regarding CPU lanes, so when I switched slot to the intended one, because the M.2 slot was filled, I couldn't use CPU lanes, and surprise surprise, it killed the PCH bandwith once again.

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Do check the supported memory list, though

dense wasp Aug 10, 2019, 12:30 PM

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ye

outer scaffold Aug 10, 2019, 1:13 PM

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Can someone look at my specs for me and lemme know how things look?

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https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Qwigy/saved/MfjskL

dense wasp Aug 10, 2019, 1:16 PM

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a good looking computer.
not a fan of QLC NAND,
I'd go with Samsung 970 M.2 instead of the intel 660,

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and I can't speak for that version of the X5700, but otherwise, a solid build

fleet canopy Aug 10, 2019, 1:16 PM

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Wait for aftermarkets as well

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It comes in this month I believe

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I actually can't tell whether they really did release aftermarkets or I'm just seeing the first of the probably aftermarkets

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I really hope they have fan aftermarkets, and not just blowers tbh

outer scaffold Aug 10, 2019, 2:30 PM

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Thanks ya'll. I'll wait a month then. I've been thinking about switching better RAM. @dense wasp why go with 970?

dense wasp Aug 10, 2019, 2:31 PM

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QLc nand in general performs worse

outer scaffold Aug 10, 2019, 2:31 PM

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Gotcha, as far as the video card is concerned, the X5700 is arguably the best in its price range. It runs a little hot but I can just under volt it if there is a problem.

dense wasp Aug 10, 2019, 2:36 PM

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It is, but as hardold mentioned, the 3rd party coolers are in general better

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The MSi ones for instance, thought I saw them

fleet canopy Aug 10, 2019, 2:37 PM

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Ah so they haven't released them yet

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Was confused as to why there was already more than 2-3 brands of 5700 XT listed on pcpartpicker

jovial shoal Aug 10, 2019, 4:34 PM

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so, does anyone know what kind of hardware we are gonna need for this game?

late sorrel Aug 10, 2019, 4:36 PM

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yes

void perch Aug 10, 2019, 4:36 PM

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The hardware specs are in #faq - they are very reasonable, but the first alpha will give a good test for everyone to see where things are at

late sorrel Aug 10, 2019, 4:36 PM

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but official explanation;

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but

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now I have heard from a little bird that a AMD HD5670 and a i5 2500k will get you 720p 30fps

jovial shoal Aug 10, 2019, 4:37 PM

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oh ok

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thats very reasonable

pallid cedar Aug 10, 2019, 4:54 PM

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I'll be happy with 1080p 144 on my Ryzen 7 2700 and RTX 2060 combo

hexed horizon Aug 10, 2019, 4:55 PM

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Noice

fiery nacelle Aug 10, 2019, 6:24 PM

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Intel i7 4790, GeForce GTX 970, 16 Gb RAM

late sorrel Aug 10, 2019, 6:26 PM

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Wait wow

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I actually have a comparable build to the devs

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technically I’m down by 2% on the GPU

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and up by 10% on the cpu

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Even after userbenchmarks shit new ranking

fiery nacelle Aug 10, 2019, 6:30 PM

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you've got an i7-4770k and an r9 290?

late sorrel Aug 10, 2019, 6:31 PM

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570 and a 2600

gusty glacier Aug 10, 2019, 7:35 PM

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r9 280x a beast- just sayin

abstract kite Aug 10, 2019, 9:01 PM

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amd cards are good overall it's not only the rx series

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i got a rx580 nitro oc for 190 euros on amazon, good luck beating that nvidia

late sorrel Aug 10, 2019, 9:48 PM

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same with the rx570

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Nvidia has nothing at 130usd that's similar performance

dark quarry Aug 10, 2019, 10:00 PM

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Finding out kinda the hard way that recording gameplay in 4K is not quite as plug-and-record as it would seem.

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AverMedia RECentral records in 4K just fine, but the audio seems to be drifting out of sync rather exponentially.

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ie, the longer the recording, the more out of sync the audio is.

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Anyone know anything about that?

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OBS seems to be capped at 1080p.

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But otherwise records video and audio just fine.

late sorrel Aug 10, 2019, 10:05 PM

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I know Radeon relive works for 4K

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But you might not have an amd card

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an Elgato capture card won’t work either

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because they’re also capped at 1080p

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Oh yeah

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Doesn’t shadow play work?

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Or do you have to pay for that

dark quarry Aug 10, 2019, 10:07 PM

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Shadowplay works, but I'm recording from a PS4 Pro

late sorrel Aug 10, 2019, 10:08 PM

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Oh

dark quarry Aug 10, 2019, 10:08 PM

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Via AverMedia's Live Gamer Ultra

late sorrel Aug 10, 2019, 10:13 PM

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Yeah I can’t really help you there unless you can somehow stream it to your pc

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I mean consoles are great and all

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but like god how hard can it be to record stuff

dark quarry Aug 10, 2019, 10:28 PM

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Easy to record stuff. PS4 has a built in DVR. Easy to get 4K screen caps, PS4 Pro does that with the share button. Not so easy to get 4K gameplay capture, the built in DVR only outputs 1080p.

sick reef Aug 10, 2019, 10:28 PM

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Well, console 4K is upscaled.

dark quarry Aug 10, 2019, 10:29 PM

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And since I'm trying to capture Destiny 1 gameplay, playing it on PC isn't an option. lol

late sorrel Aug 10, 2019, 10:30 PM

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oof

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shame really

dark quarry Aug 10, 2019, 10:37 PM

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Honestly, looking at the size of a 15 minute 4K clip (around 16GB) I'm not sure it even really matters with my current internet. It would take a week to 10 days to upload anything to youtube.

abstract kite Aug 11, 2019, 5:50 AM

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i sincerely hope you can turn of the soundtrack. While it sounds awesome for the first games, i always enjoy turning the bgm off for more ambiance

lucid swan Aug 11, 2019, 2:33 PM

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Hello guys, my system : Radeon RX 5700 XT - Ryzen 7 2700X - 16GB 3466 MHZ Ram - MSİ x470 Gaming Pro. My problems gpu low utilization unstable
does anyone know the solution ?

fiery nacelle Aug 12, 2019, 3:31 AM

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All games or only a few games?

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@lucid swan

buoyant nova Aug 12, 2019, 4:26 AM

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Don't you have 5G Internet?

late sorrel Aug 12, 2019, 4:27 AM

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That won’t help with GPU utilization

urban gulch Aug 12, 2019, 6:29 AM

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XD

lucid swan Aug 12, 2019, 8:35 AM

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@fiery nacelle pubg gta v f1 2019 not all a plague tale is good

abstract kite Aug 12, 2019, 11:22 AM

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@lucid swan the cpu is not bottlenecking for sure. Can you check the temperature of the card under load? did you manually overclock the card? if the voltage is too low the card won't work correctly since it doesnt have enough power, i would check the temperatures, if its near 90 graded celsius without overclock, you might have a defective piece and u can demand a refund if bought prior to 2 years, if you can't refund it, you need to apply new thermal paste and clean the gpu fans.Sometimes, the contact the between the VRM MOSFETs and the heatsink of the graphics card is not proper because of crappy thermal pads used in the manufacturing process. So, to fix this you can get good thermal pads of appropriate thickness and replace the older ones with them. if the temperature of the card is under 80 grades celsius under load it's fine so the problem is elsewhere so you need to check elsewhere, i suggest a clean installation of graphical drivers anyway, check on internet " how to clean install drivers". after that check you power supply.An under-powered PSU or a faulty 6-pin/8-pin PCIe connector can also contribute to this problem. This is because then the power supply will not be able to supply sufficient power to your graphics card and CPU, and due to this they will not operate at their maximum potential. So, make sure you have good power supply for your gaming rig, and also check that all of its connectors are working properly. You can use a multi-meter to check the PSU connectors.Windows Power Management Setting for PCI Express is one of the most common causes for low GPU usage, and this has been reported by many gamers. If this setting (Link State Power Management) is set to maximum power saving mode then it will cause the PCI Express interface to operate at lower clock speeds and cause PCI-E devices i.e. graphics card to under-perform

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.Go to Control Panel->Power Options.Here click on Change plan settings to the plan that is selected.Now click on Change advanced power settings.The Power Options window will open and here scroll down to expand PCI Express and then Link State Power Management. In the Settings drop down box, select Off and click Ok to save the changes. You may also have to restart your computer to make sure the changes have been applied.

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other possible causes are viruses/malwares.For Anti-virus, I recommend ESET NOD32 Anti-virus and for Anti-Malware, MalwareBytes

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if you are using windows check this too Go to command prompt and type in the following command. bcdedit /deletevalue useplatformclock

sick reef Aug 12, 2019, 11:25 AM

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Those are great advice, but they might be beyond the one you're helping.

abstract kite Aug 12, 2019, 11:26 AM

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if i'm writing too much i can send him it all on a private message by the way

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don't want to get hammered while being a good samaritan

sick reef Aug 12, 2019, 11:27 AM

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Did you read what I wrote correctly?

abstract kite Aug 12, 2019, 11:27 AM

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yeah i did i was just asking another question since i didn't know what to add to your response

sick reef Aug 12, 2019, 11:28 AM

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See how the recipient responds.

abstract kite Aug 12, 2019, 11:28 AM

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he's propably gonna respond " i booted it today and it worked like usually! thanks anyway"

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lol, happened more than you would think

sick reef Aug 12, 2019, 11:29 AM

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I know.

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It's somewhat amusing, but also a legitimate solution. For some obscure reason. Computer issues in general are always weird.

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Even if you hard reset, sometimes you just need to reboot/ wait enough time-/s to "make it work"

lucid swan Aug 12, 2019, 12:02 PM

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@clyp thanks for helping my psu cooler master 1000w silent pro m2

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Pcie 3.0 not auto bios setting

lucid swan Aug 12, 2019, 12:33 PM

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And sees 94 degrees at load %44 fan speed

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%90 fan speed 60-70 degrees

naive anchor Aug 12, 2019, 5:23 PM

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bois

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i just got ac origins

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and ive been playing it for a while

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now i tried starting it and it pops up saying i need a activation code

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wtf do i do

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i cant look at the cd key on steam pls someone help

hexed horizon Aug 12, 2019, 5:46 PM

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Hmm

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Thats weird

abstract kite Aug 12, 2019, 7:30 PM

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contact the game's support, we can't assist you with that

wheat magnet Aug 12, 2019, 7:48 PM

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Did you buy origins on steam? @naive anchor

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If yes, then on the side you should have a CD-Key under the Link list. Click on that, copy the keycode, and activate it on uplay

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Thats at least what i did whenever i bought ac games on steam and it always worked without any issue

naive anchor Aug 12, 2019, 9:03 PM

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i contacted the steam support and ubisoft support

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they had to do some stuff with my account

hexed horizon Aug 15, 2019, 6:58 PM

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I need a new keyboard

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any recommendations?

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im looking for a keyboard that I can type with

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actually i'm just gonna buy the stuff my brother has he never messed up before

fleet canopy Aug 15, 2019, 6:59 PM

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G710+ is one I currently use

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No RGB shit too

hexed horizon Aug 15, 2019, 6:59 PM

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🤔

fleet canopy Aug 15, 2019, 6:59 PM

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Just adjustable white light with brightness settings

hexed horizon Aug 15, 2019, 7:00 PM

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Excuse me, I believe I'm quite confused.

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Why would anyone buy a keyboard this expensive

fleet canopy Aug 15, 2019, 7:00 PM

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It was my brother's keyboard, I haven't checked the price of it in a long time

hexed horizon Aug 15, 2019, 7:03 PM

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ok I ordered the keyboard my brother has

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now

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I need a monitor

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You know what, I actually just need to replace my damn computer

fleet canopy Aug 15, 2019, 7:08 PM

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You need some new everything

sick reef Aug 15, 2019, 7:14 PM

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You think 70 euro for a keyboard is expensive?

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CrashThink That's a cheap mechanical.

late sorrel Aug 15, 2019, 7:18 PM

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^

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Mechanical gang

hexed horizon Aug 15, 2019, 7:25 PM

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Ok I calculated the total amount I have spent on my computer

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All the parts, the guy who built up my computer, and a legit Windows 10 key from him

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And its....

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226 415‬ HUF

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Which is roughly $771

sick reef Aug 15, 2019, 7:31 PM

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That's decent.

hexed horizon Aug 15, 2019, 7:32 PM

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All tho RAM prices were double ($80 instead of $45), and on the graphics card $200 GTX 1050Ti, I spent $50 more.

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Because of the high prices back in Summer 2018

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Yeah I could have definitely save that $71 if the prices weren't inflated

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because of mining

pallid cedar Aug 16, 2019, 1:00 PM

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$771 USD? not bad

late sorrel Aug 16, 2019, 1:03 PM

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I mean now you could get a 580 for 200

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but at that point, that’s good

pallid cedar Aug 16, 2019, 1:03 PM

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exactly

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the monitor I bought has actually turned out to be really good for the price

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27" 1080p 144Hz Viewsonic for around $380 Canadian

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Amazon.ca has it for $325 now https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B078ZJHD25/?tag=pcp0f-20

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as for a keyboard I got a cheap K51 from Rosewill, it's a hybrid membrane and mechanical and has a decent tactile feel.
Was only like $30 or $40 canadian

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https://www.newegg.ca/p/N82E16823201108?Item=N82E16823201108&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-CAN&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-CAN&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ASID=https%3A%2F%2Fca.pcpartpicker.com%2Fproduct%2FCCNypg%2Frosewill-neon-k51b-wired-gaming-keyboard-neon-k51b&ranMID=44589&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-RO34vs5dafl69foxOlyD4Q

sick reef Aug 16, 2019, 4:12 PM

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Hybrid keyboards are technically membranes. But I guess what ever works.

pallid cedar Aug 16, 2019, 8:06 PM

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they're both, hence being "hybrid"
a membrane over a switch

sick reef Aug 16, 2019, 8:14 PM

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Yeah, but the switch isn't the button, the membrane is. And membrane is membrane, regardless of feel. But at least membrane is better than back in the day.

pallid cedar Aug 16, 2019, 8:31 PM

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also, it was only $40

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Canadian

dark quarry Aug 17, 2019, 11:42 AM

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So much for the argument that Macs are "too expensive". My wife is considering upgrading to the latest MacBook Pro, and for the i9/32GB/1TB SSD option, she's looking at $2,999. Just for S&G, I looked up how much a PC Laptop with comparable specs would cost and came up with an MSi (i9/32GB/1TB SSD) for $2,799.

Difference in the two being that the MacBook Pro rocks a Radeon Pro 560X and the MSi is a GeForce RTX2070.

sick reef Aug 17, 2019, 11:46 AM

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I'd look at more laptops than simply one as comparison, but maybe they spiked their prices. I'd rather pick something that can get fixed if it breaks, rather than replaced, though.

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Oh wait, isn't 560x leagues below 2070 as well?

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I know I got my brother a 580+ because it was comparable to a 1060.

dark quarry Aug 17, 2019, 11:48 AM

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Knowing Apple, that's probably where they are 'cutting costs'. You can upgrade to VEGA for $250 (16) or $350 (20).

sick reef Aug 17, 2019, 11:49 AM

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They are cutting costs in a ton of other ways.

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But perhaps so.

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Wait, a vega 16 is around 1050 performance?

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According to notebookcheck.

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Then how poor is 560X?

dark quarry Aug 17, 2019, 11:51 AM

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I didn't look too deep into anything, it was just a quick shits and giggles search.

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And went with the MSi that I found, because I have an MSi and really like it.

sick reef Aug 17, 2019, 11:52 AM

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MSI have their issues, though. Mainly bloatware.

dark quarry Aug 17, 2019, 11:53 AM

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Yeah, I pretty much got rid of everything extra that was installed.

sick reef Aug 17, 2019, 11:53 AM

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Overcomable, of course. But 10-20 preinstalled programs are quite silly.

dark quarry Aug 17, 2019, 11:53 AM

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Installed my own anti-virus that I have a lifetime license for and all that.

sick reef Aug 17, 2019, 11:54 AM

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Yeah.

dark quarry Aug 17, 2019, 11:57 AM

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Streamed some No Man's Sky (using AverMedia RECentral) last night and it held up pretty well. At least according to my one viewer. lol

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Of course, the game was running on a PS4 Pro, so the MSi was just processing the stream.

sick reef Aug 17, 2019, 12:01 PM

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Well, that's a useful property of it.

late sorrel Aug 17, 2019, 3:12 PM

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what what

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oh my god the mobile 560x isn’t comparable to the 2060

sick reef Aug 17, 2019, 3:36 PM

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Yeah

pallid cedar Aug 17, 2019, 3:45 PM

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the 560x is ranked like 211 on technical.city vs rank 17 for the rtx 2070

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so yeah, Macs are still WAAAAAY overpriced lol