I don't do that advanced stuff. I might be able to with a guide, and I could understand it, but I wouldn't be understanding what I'm doing 
#pc-build-help-and-tech-talk
sick reef
abstract kite
I managed to control a rgb strip with an arduino tho
they have a virtual com port which is very convenient
sick reef
Doesn't arduino have RGB controllers?
sick reef
Ah
abstract kite
so I added some transistors for power and it's ready to go
sick reef
So that's pulse signal, and then power from elsewhere?
Impressive.
I know my Aquacomputer has a ton of options for expansions, and different channels, but I only use it for the fans.
abstract kite
you know why I thought it would work? when you're on the arduino ide you have that "serial console" thing, that shows you eveything you send to the serial port, that means I can communicate with an arduino without any library
sick reef
sick reef
Yeah, old style connector.
abstract kite
less old than molex connectors
sick reef
Oh wait, no, that's old molex
abstract kite
ye
sick reef
Ah, you mean just a power sata then?
abstract kite
sata power, power sata, idk
sick reef
Yeye
abstract kite
sick reef
Yeah
sick reef
I've been tinkering a ton with all these things just to understand my own build, so seeing more in depth stuff is super interesting.
abstract kite
usb is garbage
sick reef
Yes
abstract kite
it's so damn complicated
sick reef
That is why I meant if you just passthroughed it, because actually manipulating it into something else seems way more work than it pays.
abstract kite
yeah, using usb to uart chips seems pretty easy
sick reef
Ah
abstract kite
that's how arduino works
you send data to serial and this serial is converted to usb (or not)
sick reef
Heh
abstract kite
FT232 is a well known chip
sick reef
I've never worked with micro computers, only basic logic gates.
abstract kite
I made a processor architecture out of logic gates 😄
sick reef
Yeah, I saw a video of someone creating a basic VGA, architecture, and CPU doing that.
A ton of work, but it's capable.
(Capable as in functions)
abstract kite
ah, ben eater
tho I just stayed on simulation software
I may make an architecture with discrete transistors
sick reef
abstract kite
talking about my rgb controller, it outputs a 31kHz 10 bit rgb
such power isn't usualy available to you mortals
😎
sick reef
No, quite not. I would have no use of it myself, though. I have as little RGB as I dare without thinking I would break something functionally.
Took apart my mouse bunge only to tear out the leds in it, as an example.
abstract kite
tbh I put rgb in my computer just because I made that device
my pc is 2yo and I put it in yesterday
tho when you see it in person it's very pretty
also I'm very sensitive to blinking and most rgb consumer products are burning my eyes
sick reef
Well, it's not bad, I just hate unnecessary light on my own stuff.
For yeah, that reason.
Well, not blinking, but bright lights.
abstract kite
by burning my eyes I just mean the repetitive on/off
I'm still able to notice it at 1kHz
most products are between 100 and 1000Hz
for the brightness I took a case with a window not covering 100% of the side of my computer, so I can fit led strip and they don't shine on my eyes, just on the inside of the computer
it's not obvious on the picture
this dotted pattern surprised me, I didn't expected that
abstract kite
?
what you see is not the led
it's the side of the transparent plastic being lighten by the led
sick reef
Yes, that I know. But I mean that since that is the structure of the strip.
It does look neat, though.
abstract kite
yeah, and it's looks so much better in person 😍
sick reef
Probably!
abstract kite
the worst are fireworks
urban gulch
ikr
lucid osprey
oh yeah i was meant to look at reactions
sick reef
I find the lack of dark depth more annoying, or what ever it's called. Been meaning to get a proper camera to solve that, but never have.
lucid osprey
anyway everywhere else first reaction was "why do you have 4 drives"
sick reef
Well, if you want 4 drives, or some NAS setup, I think most here are understanding.
lucid osprey
yeah
anyway i have 8 drives
also there are two intake fans on the front, one's just obscured by the drive bays
none at the top
sick reef
I have a similar issue.
lucid osprey
i don't need more fans
muffled rtx 2080ti and r7 3700x crying
anyway the case is the Phanteks p600s and it's pretty nice
sick reef
I had to cram an exhaust fan into a drive cage, on top of a tape drive, behind a floppy drive I cut out the back of to make the fan fit precisely.
lucid osprey
Haha when can we all use u.2
fiery nacelle
we're still stuck on SATA 3 sadly
sick reef
I lost the picture from the front, but I'll take a new one eventually.
But yeah, that's an exhaustfan stuck between a drive and a hard tube.
fiery nacelle
that looks quite narrow
sick reef
It is extremely narrow.
sick reef
The front facing part is glued to the drive, the back facing part is distanced just enough to not have the fan wings hit the connector.
It's a X299 mobo.
It used to be an HP Mobo in there, but that thing went first, as well as its mounts.
fiery nacelle
definitely meets the recommended spec for GTFO haha
(unless they decide to throw in ray tracing)
sick reef
Well, that's mainly because I don't have a 20 series card.
The CPU is 7940X, at 4.8GHz, so I'd be impressed if there'd be anything that just ends it outright
Doxbox gave it a real try, though
sick reef
Well, I meant as a program, but you are probably right
inner lily
jeez this channel poppen today huh
sick reef
Doxbox out there trying to use 100% CPU for battlespire making it boost indefinitly, taking it to 64 degrees.
ashen jungle
Will my i5 3470 12 gbs of ram and a GTX 770 4gb run this game well?
fleet canopy
I've never really heard much about the older GPUs
late sorrel
my 2010 machine will be able to get 30fps 720p
5670 will get that
The GTX 770 / 3470 should have no issue @ashen jungle
I’ve got a worse PC than you and I’ve heard that it will run
chrome chasm
While we don't know how far the Devs pushed the optimization and what kind of rig will handle GTFO. You can breath a little knowing that GTFO isn't the next Crysis. They are building the game, recording footage, etc.. on 2014/2015 rig using GTX 980. Ludvig, one of the 10CC devs, tested the game on old PC part to make sure it can run on multiple older PC.
late sorrel
well I’m going off of what Ludvig told me, so ¯_(ツ)_/¯
@fleet canopy I highly doubt a mid range PC from like the 2000’s will be able to cut it
normal ivy
I wonder if it’s going to be really demanding on highest settings
Or if high end rigs now could handle it well
fleet canopy
I doubt it'd be too demanding
chrome chasm
A 980Ti should be able to 1440p ultra 60fps it. And run it 4k with variable fps. But not recommended for shooter.
plucky tangle
Having owned a 980ti @chrome chasm I would doubt it can run ultra anything at 1440p at solid 60 fps
fleet canopy
I assume he meant with doing OC on 980 Ti?
plucky tangle
I mean, I had an overclocked 980ti ... I still doubt it. I was able to push 1080p 80-90fps on ultra .... but to get 2k solid 60fps ... doubtful
normal ivy
I assume he was answering to me specifically saying the highest settings
But my graphics card is still better than that so hopefully it’s the case nonetheless
plucky tangle
What gpu do you have @normal ivy?
normal ivy
Zotac RTX 2080
plucky tangle
Oh yeah, you can run it on just about anything lol
If I was a betting man, I'd assume the engine is similar to the one they used in payday 2
fleet canopy
Wasn't payday 2 made with a car driving engine?
plucky tangle
Uhhhh dont think so
fleet canopy
The engine they're using is some popular engine that's open to all
plucky tangle
Diesel 2.0 is the name of the payday 2 engine
plucky tangle
Yeah it looked good and ran well, I'm curious if they are using the same engine, just tweaked
normal ivy
Oh I thought this game was using UE4
fleet canopy
Yeah its UE4 or something
As said in faqs,
**9) What game engine is used to develop GTFO?
GTFO is made with UNITY.
**
plucky tangle
Oh ok, so it will run very well and wont require alot to do it
Here is the specs for working on the engine, if that says anything.
Desktop PC or Mac
Windows 7 64-bit or Mac OS X 10.9.2 or later
Quad-core Intel or AMD processor, 2.5 GHz or faster
NVIDIA GeForce 470 GTX or AMD Radeon 6870 HD series card or higher
8 GB RAM
ashen jungle
@late sorrel thank you so much
plucky tangle
And this is the tested pc specs for working with UE4
Intel Core i7 4930K processor
Intel X79 chipset motherboard
32GB RAM
1TB SSD
Nvidia GTX 770 video card
misty geyser
fiery nacelle
fleet canopy
Neat
vague lake
my new cooler in coming in today just asking
fleet canopy
The cooler will spread it nicely
Or be the smart guy
Apply thermal paste to the pins
vague lake
also
i order the hyper 212 (black edition)
i was looking at this other cooler after the order
Arctic Freezer 34 eSports
vague lake
it needs to cool a i7-7740x
sick reef
If you have non-conductive paste, you can use a soft rubber spatula to spread a thin, but coherent, layer with. But for smaller IHS', the blob works fine.
normal ivy
What i did for thermal paste was make it into an X
a slightly thick layer thats an X so when you put the heat sink ontop it spreads out evenly
fiery nacelle
The X method is ideal for chiplet designs like Zen 2 where more heat gets to the corners
too
sick reef
Well, it's because it's divided into 4, and large, so you have to be certain you cover the entire IHS.
Best way is still spatula or scrape.
sick reef
I do it for safety's sake. and if I removed or am attaching a cooler, I've already invested time into it.
But that's me, obviously 
If I have important things, or things that can lead to big repercussions, I take my time, and do it right.
fiery nacelle
I'm used to pea sized drop in the centre with older monolithic die cpus
sick reef
First time I booted, it refused to clock over lowest, and it didn't use all RAM. A safety mode. And that meant taking apart the entire cooling solution, which means deslotting my PSU, and removing the 7 screws that hold the radiator, and removing the Mounts for the CPU cooler as well as the cooler. And since it was a homebuild, it is built so that it takes roughly 40 minutes to do that, and safely remove everything, before I can access the CPU.
I was meticulous with that I did everything as to not damage anything.
Then using a spyglass to look at all the pins, the CPU, finding the issue, fixing it, and having it work properly.
And putting it back together of course, which is more difficult than taking it apart.
I'm glad I have an accessible top part because taking of the side takes roughly 10 minutes, and soon I'll have to modify my screws again, so that the screwdriver works correctly in them.
So if that pea or cross thing doesn't work properly, then that's an hour or two just to fix paste.
fiery nacelle
The pea method is a well tested and proven method that has worked well for many so far
cross is better for multi chiplet designs
Spatula or scrape is something that takes some more skill - easier for a less experienced builder to screw up
sick reef
It works, obviously. Especially when it's a normally sized CPU. But I first off have a large one, and I wanted to absolutely make sure it doesn't go wrong.
fiery nacelle
ah yes for large HEDT cpus yeah
normal ivy
I used the X for my i7 and it worked perfectly fine
Only way you could have a problem with it is if you make it too thick or thin
sick reef
Too thick doesn't fully matter unless it stops you from tensioning it right.
Because it'll just shuffle the leftover, or surplus, away as you tension it down.
sick reef
They missed the corners, mainly.
sick reef
Great!
late sorrel
Woo!
inner lily
hows your temps now? @vague lake
vague lake
Bf5 was when in the menu 80 now 60
late sorrel
Still a little high, but it worked!
vague lake
While gaming.. not sure yet
In game noe
Now
65 degreese
With the old cooler
It was reaching 85 90
sick reef
Yeah, something must have been wrong with the old one, in any shape or form.
vague lake
Max degreese is 70 while bf5
inner lily
not bad!
vague lake
Yeah and much less noise now
north bronze
Be me
Install MSI Afterburner to tweak my 1060's fans
Test out 100%
PC: turns into rocket
hexed horizon
be you
vague lake
with amd GPU's you can just do it with the GPU setting software
vague lake
soo updated on my cpu
most games it wont go above 60-65
of battlefield 5 its 60-70
soo temps got improved
fiery nacelle
chrome chasm
@plucky tangle The 980Ti is my current card and I ran plenty of game at ultra 1440p 60fps. Even some game at 60 fps 2160p. Keep in mind I don't talk about benchmark games. I play a plethora of games from different style and graphic. All simple and/or old game like Axiom Verge, Dead Cells, payday 2 or even League of Legends are on 4k with 60 fps+ easy. Most other games like Pubg, Hitman 2, etc, that don't aim for crazy graphic benchmark get the max 1440p treatment, always at 60 fps+ stable. And everything else above that, like Witcher 3 or SotTR, is 1440p 60fps with tweak in setup to make sure I keep that 52-60 fps frame.
GTFO will fall into the second category, no doubt about that. Might even try it to 4k if they aren't pushing too much the ambient occlusion quality too much, which I doubt for a 9-man team.
fiery nacelle
GTFO 4k 144Hz Ultra with globally illuminated ray-tracing and Nvidia EggWorks
fleet canopy
Should I just reuse my 650 watt psu or get a 550?
pallid cedar
if your 650 is Gold+ rated, stick with it
fleet canopy
Mmk
sick reef
Having an oversized PSU is never a problem. Having an undersized one is.
hollow summit
This. Not only does higher capacity PSU offer you headroom, it will actually be more efficient in the 30-70% usage window
Pushing a PSU to its highest will increase its power consumption from the wall, it's optimal to be in the mid range
chrome chasm
I'm using a 850 gold. No idea if its too much or not, but it work and thats all I care.
fiery nacelle
Most enthusiast builds don't really peak over 500 watts
or so
"Zeaginal" LOL
sullen quail
the rating is what you want to be looking for really. I have a corsair 750 platinum and could easily add a second rtx 2080 in it with no problems
abstract kite
belle delphine build
fiery nacelle
it probably has to cater to the female gaming crowd
fiery nacelle
probs 2 weeks out
fleet canopy
fiery nacelle
wheat magnet
I really like how this looks I'm not going to lie
inner lily
hows everyone doin
hexed horizon
Uhh
let me check
Good
Processor 5% used
Memory 49% used (8Gb)
the rest is fine
inner lily
whatchya playin?
hexed horizon
firefox
inner lily
lol
hexed horizon
i need more ram
hexed horizon
the computer just itself eats 3Gb without doing anything
if I'm using Discord or chrome its just
i dont even use chrome
i use firefox
inner lily
i like chrome because i have so many bookmarks
hexed horizon
i like firefox cuz i always used firefox
inner lily
understandable
inner lily
not that it prevents it, just that i dont have all my bookmarks on firefox
and if i already have all my bookmarks on chrome, and all my extensions and logins, why switch? ive got enough ram
inner lily
even running a modpack + discord + chrome i still have abt 6gb free
unless i have a billion tabs open
chrome chasm
Everyone should have 16gb RAM if they are using it for gaming anyway.,
Dual stick 8Gb
chrome chasm
It's in my to-spend list for pre-cyberpunk 2077 release
chrome chasm
Putting money aside for april 2020, Getting the top end GPU, probably a I7-9700 or whatever that won't bottleneck the GPU (in 10 months it's prolly still gonna be a 2080Ti) and a new mobo for 8/9th gen CPU
inner lily
dude im so excited
so Walmart hired someone else instead of me, but i got a job offering from OSL ( a kinda smartphone assistant company that sets up lines and sells phones) that works INSIDE walmart
chrome chasm
Lol
inner lily
and i did an interview same day of when they contacted me
hexed horizon
Walmart :thonk:
inner lily
starting pay is 12/hr (more than walmart) and i get commissions for phones, accessories, lines
which means i can actually pheasibly upgrade my pc more
chrome chasm
What are you aiming for upgrade?
chrome chasm
It's 50% higher than USA minimum wage, which is quite good
inner lily
where you live?
hexed horizon
Hungary
chrome chasm
Enough to pay a small rent and car with some small bonus
Cost of living is different too.
inner lily
yeah^
hexed horizon
Yeah, just computer parts are more expensive in Hungary than lets say in the U.S.
or another example, we pay the same price for a videogame console.
inner lily
just like how in japan being paid 500 US (converted) a month is normal and "livable"
while in the us 500 a month is abysmal.
inner lily
anyway @chrome chasm i was planning to upgrade from a 1050ti (current) to a 2080S
and from what ive heard yes, a lot of animators in japan actually live off 500 US a month lmao
chrome chasm
2080s and 1080Ti is basically the same card, Should check the pricing
2080s is slightly better, but very small
inner lily
2080S is more readily available and doesnt require bid wars though, otherwise i'd go for the 1080ti
most 1080tis i found on ebay are just constant week long bidwars.. id rather click "buy" and be done yknow?
inner lily
tbh mining doesnt do much to the card unless it was completely abused
some of the tests from mining cards to 'new' ones are pretty much the same
chrome chasm
ok cool
inner lily
but yeah im with you there, i'd much rather buy new cards and KNOW they work and be under warranty
chrome chasm
It's mostly the secure feeling of having a brand new card with a warranty
inner lily
mhm
chrome chasm
Even if it suck when it become a useless brick, and spend 3 weeks waiting, you know you will get a new one, unlike a used card
inner lily
and thing is with this job
my new one i might be getting hopefully
i could just.. buy a 2080ti within my first paycheck
chrome chasm
40h at 12$ USD, that's 480$, remove the taxe (dunno how much you get cut in america). doubt it XD
Is it like your first job as a young worker?
inner lily
nah second job
and remember - commissions
and quotas
and its every 2 weeks
after tax youre looking at 800$ flat
i already have 750 for my 2080S
750+800 = 1550
and id still be getting paid 170/w from my other job
so every two weeks thats about 1140
late sorrel
fleet canopy
Should I go for a Dark Rock Pro 4 or a Noctua NH-D15?
fiery nacelle
only if the Noctua comes with the black and white fan version LOL
vague lake
holy..
is that motherboard real?
i just see the same meme on the cyberpunk 2077 discord XD
north bronze
nah
fleet canopy
Okay
north bronze
lol
sick reef
Anything but the FE 5700XT.
fleet canopy
kek
fiery nacelle
is that the MSI Gaming X model?
They have the nice version now minus the red accent colour
late sorrel
I think he’s talking design wise
bronze cloak
whatever it is, any two fan downdraft is better than a blower
fiery nacelle
hopefully they don't outright recycle the cooler from Nvidia card to AMD
In Asus case for their version of the R9 290 / 390, they outright recycled an Nvidia one and only some of the heatpipes contacted the AMD GPU die
inner lily
asup. nerds
fleet canopy
Hello
fiery nacelle
Lord how many waifus does @fleet canopy keeps around?
fleet canopy
Hmm
fiery nacelle
The avatars keep changing
fleet canopy
Let's see...
Checks the obviously a fuck ton of pictures of random anime girls
A fuck ton
fiery nacelle
XFX RX5700 XT THICC (yes really!)
urban gulch
damn she thicc
hexed horizon
She??????
fiery nacelle
urban gulch
Depending on the size of the SSD's and how much stuff you want on it
I'm guessing the SSD is 500 gigs, since it's 140$, so a TB (2 ssd's) would be enough, if you don't bombard it with games and uhh... downloads
north bronze
both are 1TB
abstract kite
I'd go for the same 1TB M2 SDD + a HDD of the same price than your sata SSD
you'll get more storage
just remember to download on your HDD and it's ok
1TB is large enough for all your most played games + windows
urban gulch
i just noticed, the 140$ ssd is 1 tb 😐
Long story short, it is not bad @north bronze
abstract kite
you can get a good 4TB HDD for that price
or, get 2x M2 SDD and go for raid 1
for maximum performance
urban gulch
Like i said, depends if it gets bombarded by files or not.
north bronze
Hmm
abstract kite
if you download a lot of hentai: take a side HDD
if you want performance: take 2 SSD in raid 1
urban gulch
we don't talk aboot that here
abstract kite
if you want cheapness: one 120GB SDD + 1TB HDD
if you just don't care: put 4x M2 1TB SSD on a PCIe card in raid 1 just because you can
don't forget to add two xeon platinium
and two quadro GV100
urban gulch
leave that poor guy XD
dark quarry
Nothing wrong with pairing 2 SSDs, but most people use a ssd for OS and commonly used apps, plus a larger conventional HDD for basically all other storage. My laptop has a 256 GB SSD plus a 2 TB HDD. Have had zero problems with long load times off the HDD.
sick reef
If you want top of the line, raid two Intel Optane 900P PCIe 1TB. It'll set you back a thousand or two but there will hardly be any matching setup.
abstract kite
oof
there are already PCIe 4.0 SSD
do optane exist on pcie 4 already?
Corsair Force MP600
why do they have a heatsink on, wtf
sick reef
Dunno. Only know the random read write was unmatched earlier.
hexed horizon
Whats that
inner lily
2080ti is actually gonna happen
fleet canopy
inner lily
thats like an actual well paying job i got accepted into
fleet canopy
Oh nice
void perch
@inner lily congrats
hexed horizon
Nice job @inner lily very nice
inner lily
thank you :)
normal ivy
I really wish I could've gotten a 2080ti instead of a 2080 but the price difference is huge
both amazing cards regardless
inner lily
yeah the price difference is huge but also apparently its so much better
around 30% "better"
normal ivy
Yeah, but 1,200 for a graphics card is ouch
fleet canopy
Well
The value for the money isn't much different
Only like 5% ish in different I guess
inner lily
i mean tbh
buying a 80ti card seems to be a couple year investment
like the 1080ti is still a badass even though its like.. 2 1/2 years old
hell even the 980ti kicks ass
normal ivy
Even the 2080 is a badass card that could last you years
the 80TI would be for enthusiast builds
urban gulch
I got the 2080ti :3
late sorrel
yeah ok mr money bags
bronze cloak
If you're fine with a bit old hardware, EVGA has some amazing B-stock prices in their store
You can get a 980 ti Classified for $200 last I checked
fleet canopy
Prices are
300$ actually
200$ must be for used
Damn
They're selling the new ones for 640$ and used for 460$
That's like
Wut
sick reef
Congratulations, Sig!
Also, the card is 1200 because it is the very top of the line for video cards, and only that.
But gotta get back the R&D somehow.
north bronze
What are your bets for the navi 5900 and 5900 XT
fiery nacelle
90% of 2080 Ti performance for 2070 Super price?
normal ivy
It wont be that close to a 2080ti
fiery nacelle
2080 ti performance at aggregate resolutions is probably <150% of RX 5700 XT
90% of that is approximately <135% of RX 5700 XT
or 1/3rd better than the RX 5700 XT
which is the same gap between the 1080 and 1080 Ti
Probably will only happen if the RX 5900 XT has 60 CUs with the commensurate memory bandwidth increase (384 bit GDDR6?) to match
And retained the "gaming" core and memory clocks for AIB models
Would probably consume like 300 watts though
north bronze
oof
fiery nacelle
not too bad seeing the rtx 2080 ti is close to 300 watts too
north bronze
If they drop a cheaper 5600 XT or something I might go with that
Most of my processing is CPU wise
That way I can sacrifice GPU power for a 3950X
fiery nacelle
a workstation PC?
north bronze
Well it'd still be my main PC, but I work in game dev as a programmer
So most of what I do is CPU bound
fiery nacelle
ah - compiling right?
how many threads are typical compilers limited to? Always wondered
abstract kite
oh, that's how we get games requiring space pc to run above 30fps :p
as I need the maximum monothreaded performance I took the fastest one, the 7700k
fiery nacelle
maximum single thread performance?
must be quite the niche application
I used to play Aurora 4x
abstract kite
I do a lot of different things
but for example, eletronics or logic circuit simulation
they are often made in a single thread and the more performance you have, the faster you work
also games
kerbal space program for example, rocket size is limited by your cpu performance
vague lake
really?
i never knew that
soo if you have the newest i9 you can build a bigger ship?
north bronze
@fiery nacelle I can set it to use all threads, it's a setting in the compiler
abstract kite
dual xeon pltinium for the win
north bronze
ssd + ryzen 3900X/3950X = hella fast C++ compiles
Currently, it takes me about 5-7 minutes
A friend on the project with a Ryzen 2600 takes 30 seconds @fiery nacelle
hexed horizon
Ok people
I need a new motherboard
A4
I want a motherboard that has 4 ram slots, MK.2 slot, AM4 and I can still use my Ryzen 5 1500X on it.
I guess I'll just check pcx.hu with these requirements
Hey smart people help me
help meee
hexed horizon
Zero help report team
hexed horizon
Ehh, I mean yeah. But I don't want to replace my current Ryzen 5 1500X
but if I could get a MOBO that supports my 1500X, but also Gen 2 or 3 that would be awesome
I'M not sure if that's possible tho
inner lily
has 1st and 2nd gen ryzen support with support up to 3900 non-overclocked
2 m.2s
4 slots
its what me and my friend are using and we have no issues at all with it
youd need a BIOS update for a 3rd gen chip tho
hexed horizon
Oh, I know
I think I saw this on the Hungarian marketplace
lemme check
I hope it's not above 40k Hungarian currency! Haha!
🤠
inner lily
oh right shipping
inner lily
lol
hexed horizon
Nope, with shipping its 42k
inner lily
im guessing youre not uh
micro ATX?
i found a micro ATX board here
supports 1st & 2nd gen ryzen
1 m.2
4 ram slots
looks like 3 sata
heres one with 1 m.2, ATX, 4 ram slots
100 US
hexed horizon
Oh, nice.
Only 29k
Ooooh
All 3 video ports
Well, I'm not using an APU, but thats nice
hexed horizon
I'm fine with a single m.2
inner lily
okay
hexed horizon
I got the case I want to buy
all I need now is just a PSU, the RAM doesn't really matter.
inner lily
anything else you need? monitor, psu?
hexed horizon
Well, maybe not a PSU
inner lily
whats your GPU?
hexed horizon
I've got a 1050Ti that I bought 11 months ago when its price was doubled
But I was desperate to replace my 2007 Intel Core2 Quad, and my 2012 AMD
so I spent some money back then.
hexed horizon
2x4Gb 2400Mhz
I'm well aware of my computer specs
I did nothing but look at tech videos for 6 months
inner lily
whats your PSU wattage?
hexed horizon
500W, 80+, not Bronze
inner lily
i did a pc part picker and threw a 1500x + ssd + hdd and your 1050ti in and its not even 300w
hexed horizon
I got my computer parts one by one, once I got the money to order one.
I got my case, HDD, and PSU first, then I had to decide on the actual specs
inner lily
ah
i ordered my parts one by one aswell but i knew what i wanted
i wish i ordered them all at once it was pain waiting for the last part lol
hexed horizon
I wanted a Ryzen 5 2400G, and no GPU, but I got pissed that my area of 25 kilometers were asses
and noone had any Ryzen
inner lily
oh yeah thats a struggle there lol
especially when you have the money for it
but noone has it
hexed horizon
Well, here is a problem. I got my MOBO before my CPU. I visited 3 PC shops to ask if they could do a BIOS update
none of them could
inner lily
damn
hexed horizon
at least not for AM4
And I got so angry I just bought the Ryzen 5 1500X instead of the 2400G, and bought a 1050Ti as well
i wanted to wait for the RTX-es
inner lily
yeah if you dont have a pc available to get that bios onto a thumbdrive youre SOL
normal ivy
You don’t have a pc at all to use?
hexed horizon
Sure, my current computer
that I bought a year ago, but needs some upgrading
More of a "replacing"
normal ivy
Couldn’t you put the bios update onto a flash drive with your current PC?
inner lily
we were talking about back before he had it
fiery nacelle
what happened to the current motherboard @hexed horizon ?
hexed horizon
Uhh
We had an electrical shortcut? I guess, my brother got shocked (just a little bit, he is fine) by an old light bulb that fried into its place
Basically, when that happened, the USB ports on my motherboard that were occupied got an error
After restarting, they didn't work.
And ever since they don't.
I have got 3 USB ports.
On the motherboard. i've got 2 USB ports in the front of my case, they were faulty by the time they arrived.
I'm using an USB hub to connect most of my stuff. i'm not sure what to blame, my PSU, (likely) or the cheap mobo.
fiery nacelle
what kind of PSU?
modern yew
When it comes to buying a PSU you want a reputable brand. Even if it's bronze it can still be garbage quality.
Buying a cheap PSU is probably the worse choice you can make with a PC since it can kill your whole system if something were to happen to it.
vague lake
it can explode also
hexed horizon
I was going as budget as possible
Which what I originally wanted
A system with a Ryzen 5 2400G and no GPU, at least not until new cards arrived, but I made the wrong decision.
And now I pay the price.
fiery nacelle
what's your spec list currently?
AMD Ryzen 5 1500x
??? AM4 micro-atx motherboard
??? brand 2 x 4GB DDR4-????MHz
??? brand GTX 1050 Ti
??? SSD
??? HDD
Zalman 500W 80+
hexed horizon
AMD Ryzen 5 1500X
Gigabyte AB-B350M-D3V MicroATX
Crucial brand 2x 4Gb DDR4 2400Mhz
MSI brand GTX 1050 Ti Aero ITX OC
Samsung (not EVO) M.2 SSD
Toshiba 1TB
Zalman 500W 80+
fiery nacelle
Hey that is a nice motherboard right?
hexed horizon
It was 45 dollars.
fiery nacelle
it's at least an B350 based board, not an A320
hexed horizon
Yes, I that was one of my concerns
fiery nacelle
hexed horizon
Well, this is my very first computer I've chosen the parts for myself.
The problem is that I got every part one by one, basically.
I got the case, hdd, and psu first. Then I had to decide the actual specs.
fiery nacelle
I mean it's an ok part - you're not putting in an Ryzen 7 1700x then overclocking it, no need to overspec for that. It's probably random damage
I take it the motherboard is still working, except the USB ports correct?
hexed horizon
I could check my receits
Yes, the mobo still works.
My USB ports on the mobo, 3 of them died
fiery nacelle
left with say 2?
hexed horizon
3
hexed horizon
Mobo, mouse, headset, wifi adapter
fiery nacelle
but your case USB must be wired correctly (a lot of cheap cases are wired shoddily)
hexed horizon
Occasionally my phone, and a thumbstick
hexed horizon
I was desperate to fucking replace my 2007 Core 2 Quad and shitty AMD R7
So I did.
hexed horizon
When I got the money, I ordered the parts. I had 37k Hungarian forints, that's 125 dollars, I bought the case, the hdd and the psu.
fiery nacelle
if you are confident of your case USB ports, connect them to the motherboard USB headers for additional USB ports
hexed horizon
Then I started working, and slowly ordered the rest in a month.
fiery nacelle
(unless when you mean surviving USB ports, that includes the USB ports on the case)
fiery nacelle
Also, what you want / need to do with the system will always go back to the budget that you have
control panel?
hexed horizon
The USB ports in the front of the case?
fiery nacelle
yes those USB ports - they are damaged?
hexed horizon
Not sure, they are connected but don't work.
Ehh, I just feel like I scammed myself.
hexed horizon
Cheap
Aerocool V3X Advance
I wanted a case with bottom PSU but couldnt find one in my price range
hexed horizon
I'm so angry at myself, fucking 4000 HUF is the difference on every purchase, I wouldn't be in this shit
Mostly the case, PSU, and mobo
fiery nacelle
difference versus US pricing?
hexed horizon
A bit more expensive
fiery nacelle
not too bad if it is just a few components that you need to get locally
north bronze
I really hope the 3950X isn't going to be out of stock for a long time like the 3900X
fiery nacelle
better grab it fast
fleet canopy
Or wait
:P
And not pay more than what it becomes later on
Like the cough 2080 Ti cough
fiery nacelle
a good balanced build for gaming and work would be a Ryzen 7 3700x + RX 5700XT
north bronze
I'm currently going for a 3900X + a 5700 XT
But I might go with a 3950X
Because muh 16 cores
fiery nacelle
there's always Zen 2 threadrippers haha
dense wasp
I'd like one of those ..
have they released any info about them yet?
the new Threadrippers
fiery nacelle
so far none yet
I'd imagine these new threadrippers would increase productivity for most Developer work without costing too much (i.e. enterprise Epyc or Zeon)
dense wasp
Yeah the Xeon cpus do really get out of hand in cost
fiery nacelle
those SURE are pricy
fiery nacelle
Watch out guys, Intel CPUs hit by yet ANOTHER recent security vulnerability
fleet canopy
F
fiery nacelle
How many are there already?
- Spectre (variant 1)
- Meltdown
- Zombieload
- RIDL
- Fallout
- SWAPGS (variant 2)
Remember the updates, patches, workarounds for some of these vulnerabilities are not truly proof / secure, in some cases, not without disabling hyperthreading
fiery nacelle
TWO - Spectre and Meltdown previously yes, though Spectre affects all modern CPUs, even smartphones
and another group of three MDS type attacks earlier this year - Meltdown, Zombieload and RIDL
then today YET ANOTHER Spectre-like variant that affects Intel CPUs - SWAPGS
inner lily
big yikeso dude
naive anchor
when do you guys new gpus for nvidia and amd will come out?
cuz i was thinking of upgrading but now that i think about it , id rather upgrade just before cyberpunk and dy 2 come out
and it would be really sad if i bought rx 5700x or rtx 2070 and a few months before the games came out ,new gpus would come out
fleet canopy
The aftermarket 5700 XT is coming out this month
5800 and 5900 idk
And isn't there nothing new for the Super series atm?
Just
abstract kite
is a ryzen 5 1600x and a rx 580 enough to play the game?
fleet canopy
Yah
abstract kite
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urban gulch
that's a very effort message
hexed horizon
Ok so I just checked the HTC Vive Cosmos will have a resolution per eye of 2880x1700, compared to the regular Vive and refular Rift which have 1200x1080, it improved a lot.
But the question is, can we run in on our 1070 and i7-6700k
Oh boy, it feels like the 1070 is getting out of picture if it comes to VR
which is fucking sad considerin we just bought that 6 months ago
late sorrel
let me check if I can read
fleet canopy
But I'm saving it up for a better one
late sorrel
gud
anyway
you save a lot more than buying a 1060 by buying a 570
also, 580 is even better
Considering it’s at least 30 dollars cheaper
fleet canopy
Well, it's not too bad
But I'm going for a 5700 XT
If the price isn't too bad for the 5800 and 5900, I might just get either one of those two
fiery nacelle
@fleet canopy the soon to be released AIB RX 5700 XT?
Hoping XFX and Sapphire designs are good
fleet canopy
Neato
late sorrel
I don't think they made their own version of the stock cooler?
I know you can buy an XFX branded 5700/XT stock edition
oh wait I'm a big retard
that's the fucking amd website
please kill me now
fleet canopy
e_e
late sorrel
god fucking dammit
so I went to the sapphire page for my new 570
and they gave me a "click here for our drivers"
so I clicked
didn't see the blatant AMD thing
inner lily
h e l p
late sorrel
ono?
inner lily
i cant stop playing this damn modpack
inner lily
xd
late sorrel
fuc
chrome chasm
👀
late sorrel
it's not like they don't reply in general
inner lily
smh you sidetracked it now we're talking about other channels dont you know this is the pc and tech channel
naive anchor
quick question brothers and sisters
is there actually going to be rxs 5800s and 5900s?
naive anchor
is there any info on the performance jump?
fleet canopy
Don't know atm
naive anchor
cuz if the jump is 15% to 20 % ill probably go for it
fleet canopy
It should jump for that ig
naive anchor
its gonna be a pain lol
since i have a nvidia gpu
wait
wrong thing
intel cpu
1151 coffe lake socket
and if i was to go for full ryzen , id have to swap the motherboard
quite some issues come with that as well
lel
fleet canopy
kek
Thankfully with AMD
It's not too expensive
Not any more expensive than Intel and Nvidia combined
naive anchor
the motherboard swap tho
fleet canopy
Ye
naive anchor
is really troublesome
i have a mini tx motherboard and would have to get some more motherboard stands and screws
unless those come with the motherboard now?
lel
also windows 10 is associated to your motherboard so that would suck
fleet canopy
I'm pretty sure they already come with anything needed
naive anchor
would have to associate my windows 10 with a microsoft account which i cant be arsed to make lel
and then move that to the other motherboard
i was thinking of this motherboard
ah wait
oof
what socket will the 3000 series use?
or is it the same as 200?
*2000
fleet canopy
X570 is good for 3600-3600X all the way to 3900X
fleet canopy
Alright
fleet canopy
You can get a 450
naive anchor
that will work?
fleet canopy
But gotta update bios with a lesser CPU
fleet canopy
Eh
naive anchor
so theres a chance the motherboard prices will drop
fleet canopy
You'll probably have enough by then
late sorrel
what the fuck
naive anchor
???
late sorrel
you don’t need a heckling x570
naive anchor
im sorry for the spam but thats just how i write , cant help it
naive anchor
you serious?]
late sorrel
You don’t need an X570 board
naive anchor
those work?
late sorrel
you can run ryzen 3 on those
The only good thing about X570 is PCIe4 and the M.2 drives being faster
And yes, they do
really, you don’t need them
it’s extra stuff you won’t use
naive anchor
got any recommendations ?
naive anchor
lemme check
naive anchor
you know what kinda sucks about upgrading cpus?
the socket
like goddamn , why dont you just use the same socket
naive anchor
ehh
late sorrel
all of the ryzen chips are AM4
late sorrel
You don’t need to get rid of the NVIDIA
late sorrel
that’s a graphics card
naive anchor
im getting a new gpu too bruv
fleet canopy
If your GPU is good, keep it
naive anchor
i just wanna be able to run cyberpunk 2077 and dying light 2 on ultra at around 100fps when they come out
ive got a 1060
3gb
fleet canopy
Well then the GPU could use an upgrade, but have that for later
late sorrel
You will survive on a shit GPU
fleet canopy
1060 isn't too bad I guess
If you don't mind the graphics lookin ehh
I have it and I'm totally fine with it
late sorrel
nop
naive anchor
i can run most games on high 45-60
fleet canopy
He said he has a 1060 3GB uwu
late sorrel
oh
naive anchor
i made a fatal mistake
late sorrel
should have gotten a 580
late sorrel
also, it’s not shit
naive anchor
lel
late sorrel
it’s decent
naive anchor
yeah itll hold its own
naive anchor
true
late sorrel
I don’t see myself using 4k
naive anchor
but i wanna get that sweet 100fps in dy 2 and cyberpunk
ohh
dont even bring 4k up
ill be honest
fleet canopy
If you got the money, you could
fleet canopy
Ye
late sorrel
I still can’t use it
fleet canopy
But not that interesting
late sorrel
If you don’t have the monitor
fleet canopy
It's as boring as the 2080 Super
naive anchor
but the money you have to pay for it is not worth the Slight improvement
fleet canopy
No one wants to know about it
late sorrel
o7
naive anchor
id rather have 144fps on 1080p than 60 on 4k
hmmm
lets talk about cpus then
is it worth upgrading from 8400 now?
late sorrel
an i3?
naive anchor
i5
late sorrel
Depends on the GPU
naive anchor
as i said 5900
late sorrel
if you’re talking 2070, maybe