#pc-build-help-and-tech-talk

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fiery nacelle
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don't waste that money my man

inner lily
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im really hoping i get this second job so i can build an absolute overkill system lmao

acoustic timber
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ive got a 1060 6gig right now. lol. i just want a new mobo and ram and shit

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i cant upgrade anything anymore past the gpu....

inner lily
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ah my buddys' got a 1060 3g

acoustic timber
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its a 9 year old mobo

fiery nacelle
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Ryzen 7 2700 is plenty ok rite?

inner lily
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he just upgraded from an FX 8350 to a R5 3600

fiery nacelle
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oh you meant i7-2700

acoustic timber
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yeaaaaaaaa

fiery nacelle
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@inner lily thats a great gaming chip

acoustic timber
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2700 vs 8700 isnt that big of a difference...but EVERYTHING else is impossible to upgrade

fiery nacelle
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hey man I got an i7-2600 with RX 480 8GB

acoustic timber
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im rockin ddr2, my dude

fiery nacelle
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and 8GB DDR3

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oh man that is so old

acoustic timber
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9 years

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but hey, i run BF5 on medium at like 60fps

inner lily
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rn ive got a R5 2600 w/ 16 gb ddr4 @ 3000mhz and a 1050ti 4g lol

acoustic timber
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if you build a pc, build a good pc

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IT WILL LAST

inner lily
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planning to upgrade from 1050ti to 2080s

fiery nacelle
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@inner lily all that needs is a new AMD GPU haha

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@acoustic timber wait for Intel to initiate their 15% price cut perhaps then snap up the 9900k?

inner lily
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theres been a lot of artifacting issues with the new AMD gpu's because of blower style lol

acoustic timber
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negative

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9700/9900 are worse for gaming than the 8 series

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8/8 vs 6/12

inner lily
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cooking the card to like 90c

fiery nacelle
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oh but 9900k is 8/16

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@inner lily probs have to wait for the AIB custom RX 5700 XT with dual axial fans

acoustic timber
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meh. 8700k is the beez neeeeeeeeeyzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

fiery nacelle
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that's last gen

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haha

inner lily
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im going for an msi gaming x trio 2080s

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supposedly wont be in stock till aug 16th according to b&h tho

fiery nacelle
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RTX 2080 Supers are of poor value - well according to reviewers anyway

inner lily
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yeah so ive heard - they're putting them around the 1080ti range

acoustic timber
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thats why i dont care about 9th gen i7s

inner lily
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but im not interested in getting into a week long bid war just for a 1080ti

fiery nacelle
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userbenchmark scores are broken right now

inner lily
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i just want a kickass gpu that i wont have to worry about till i build my overkill pc

fiery nacelle
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they've recently changed their scoring

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@inner lily maybe until you've started to build that PC, then shop around for a GPU?

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afterall, Nvidia is transitioning to 7nm

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and RDNA 2 is around the corner

acoustic timber
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any x700(not 1st gen, ew), is basically the same thing. OBVIOUSLY THEY GET FASTER.... but the step ups iarent massive...

fiery nacelle
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either that or the RX 5800XT

inner lily
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ive recently upgraded my cpu is the thing, the only thing left over from my old build IS the 1050ti

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old build was FX 4300 w/ 8gb ddr3 @1666mhz and a 1050ti

fiery nacelle
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OUCH

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FX 4300?

inner lily
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hey man, i ran arma 3 servers with 30+ people on that thing. AND played at the same time

fiery nacelle
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that's even worse than @acoustic timber

inner lily
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it worked

fiery nacelle
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haha

acoustic timber
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yup 😄

fiery nacelle
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was it even possible to run a server and play ARMA 3 smoothly at the same time?

inner lily
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ish.

fiery nacelle
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Newer CPU intense games like Insurgency Sandstorm, etc are already cpu bottlenecked on my i7-2600...

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sad

inner lily
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constantly drop to like 10-15fps but with an fx4300 and a 1050ti i kinda got used to it

acoustic timber
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i7s, not 1st gen, are beasts

inner lily
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only thing now is i went from a CPU bottleneck to a GPU bottleneck

acoustic timber
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literally best chip in the last 10 years

inner lily
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now i get stutters in Siege randomly in gunfights

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but when i plopped my buddys' 1660ti into my system it worked just fine no stutters

acoustic timber
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amd is the value line

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intel is name brand

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lets be real

fiery nacelle
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value is good right?

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90% of the performance for half the price

acoustic timber
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you want a toyota or a lexus

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lol

inner lily
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yeah tbh amd "high end" gpus being NV mid tier is kinda annoying

acoustic timber
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ford or lincoln, baby!

fiery nacelle
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I'd take a toyota if I had to pay for the capital and maintenance cost haha

acoustic timber
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amd is good if you arent breaking your bank. intel is there for the people who want that primo

inner lily
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like sure you can use powertables on the 5700/xt and get around the same performance of a 2080/2080s but realistically if youre going to put that much effort into it get a 2080/s and OC that

fiery nacelle
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TOYOTA = They Overcharge You On Their Accessories

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LOL

acoustic timber
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pontiac = poor old .... nvm

inner lily
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LOL

fiery nacelle
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@inner lily Hmmm, but you have to pair it with a good monitor to make the RTX 2080 and above worth it

inner lily
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yeah i mean

fiery nacelle
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at least 27" IPS 1440p 144Hz

inner lily
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i want the 2080s to fuel my Index

fiery nacelle
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that would be matching

inner lily
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1050ti just wont cut it

acoustic timber
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never get a 5

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8 if youre a baller, 7 if you on that middle class(YA FEEL ME), 6 if youre tryin to skimp but still be runnin aiiiiight.

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5 is that....amd level. LOL

inner lily
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im not the one who bought the 5, my buddy had it in his system and when he upgraded to a 1660ti he gave me his

fiery nacelle
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why not both - RX 5800XT LOL

inner lily
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before the 1050ti.. i had an RX 460 LOL

fiery nacelle
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wait so now you have a 1660Ti?

inner lily
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no ive got 1050ti

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my buddy got the 1660ti

acoustic timber
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DONT

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dont buy that line

fiery nacelle
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the 1660?

inner lily
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yeah thats what i tried to tell my buddy

fiery nacelle
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it's ok value for money I guess

acoustic timber
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just get a radeon at that point

inner lily
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1660 shouldnt exist

fiery nacelle
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for those on 1080p 60 fps

inner lily
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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bruh yall gettin that 1650 weary

fiery nacelle
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True @acoustic timber Radeon RX 570 and 580s are so cheap now

inner lily
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werent they selling the 570 sapphire 8g on amazon for like.. 120?

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like a week ago?

acoustic timber
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and once you understand how the whole 'series' thing works...it just makes you sick and stick with the lower card

fiery nacelle
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I think it was like 140+

acoustic timber
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because, lets be real, ITS A LOTTERY

fiery nacelle
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silicon lottery

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or was it silicone

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one was for semiconductors, the other was for tits

acoustic timber
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when i learned how the whole process worked of them making chips and cards...i was like.............

fiery nacelle
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they bin them of course

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now they are smarter by selling higher bins for higher prices

inner lily
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well the 5700xt 50th anniversary are just 5700xt chips that performed better

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so they're upmarking them

fiery nacelle
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why do people on reddit keep calling it silicone lottery

acoustic timber
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i just dont want to buy that ibuypower because I THINK it has an ASRock mobo

fiery nacelle
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it is not like we are hiring and binning hookers with fake t*ts

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@acoustic timber Asrock is cheap - sometimes has its issues though

acoustic timber
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its got horror stories written about it.

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lmao

inner lily
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its not even a branded one

acoustic timber
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asus4lyfe

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primes are good, yea

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?

inner lily
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sorry im wrong

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its an MSI

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MSI B360M PRO-VDH Motherboard B360MPROVDH

fiery nacelle
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erh... probs not Asus for AM4 this time around

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AM4 X570 - Giga and MSI

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AM4 X470 - MSI

inner lily
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for that sketchy ibuypower we were talking abt right?

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it's an msi board

acoustic timber
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i mean, its a prebuilt. they use the cheapest pieces of silicon they can find

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lol

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bulk buy the cheap stuff....winnnnnnning

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asus prime z390s seem to be pretty goooooooooooooooooooooooooood

fiery nacelle
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go cheap man

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and change every 4 years

inner lily
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my buddy went with a gigabyte board

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and the I/O cover actually was interefering with the case

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so we had to take it off to mount the board

acoustic timber
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or buy right and not worry about it for almost a decade 😃

fiery nacelle
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nah

fleet canopy
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I mean

fiery nacelle
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that's the most expensive route

fleet canopy
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Totally could go for cheaper

fiery nacelle
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buy cheaper and change every 4 years

acoustic timber
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ive bought 2 cards for this pc.....so in 10 years, ive spent 1500 on it....total.

fleet canopy
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Yeah

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Hmm

acoustic timber
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hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

fleet canopy
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H m m

acoustic timber
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the beauty of an i7

inner lily
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when i was first getting into pc gaming i bought a prebuilt and regretted it

fiery nacelle
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i9 man

inner lily
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500$ for a FX 4300 and an RX 460 in 2016.

acoustic timber
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i dont need a server processor to play games on, no thaaaaaaanks

fiery nacelle
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When I first got into PC gaming prebuilts are all we had

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LOL

inner lily
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lul

acoustic timber
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"i bought a titan to play games" - ppl blowing money in 2016

fiery nacelle
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Compaq, IBM, etc

fleet canopy
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kek

acoustic timber
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i ride the line of expensive cheap

fiery nacelle
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i5-9600K + RTX 2060 Super

acoustic timber
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not building a 2k pc...not building a $500 pc

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annnnnnnnnnnnnnnd i just dont like saying "i have an i5"

fleet canopy
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I mean

fiery nacelle
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today's i5 is better than yesterday's i7 rite?

acoustic timber
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ill spend the extra 50 for the i7

fleet canopy
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I guess it is?

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Even like

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AMD releases the Ryzen 5 still

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For 3600

fiery nacelle
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yeah the Ryzen 5 3600 is beating the Ryzen 7 1700

fleet canopy
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:P

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That 'i5' or 'i7' just means nothing

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It's just the performance each CPU gives

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And the price too

acoustic timber
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i mean...hyperthreading?

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lol

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and that 3mb more cache....

fiery nacelle
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8c/8t > 6c/12t - for gaming

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assuming same clocks

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once the thread counts go above 4, an SMT thread is probably worth anywhere from 10% to 30% of a real physical core anyway

acoustic timber
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got 4 hours left before the sales over

inner lily
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newegg ran out of 2080 super stock real fast

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even nvidia's not selling on their site anymore

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big ouchies

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why do AIBs even make blower style cooler cards? especially since the default card isnt even blower style?

fleet canopy
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Because profit

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:P

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That or some people just want blowers instead fans

inner lily
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blower styles are shit though on more recent cards

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maybe in SFF but not in any normal mid or full size

inner lily
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it's not bad. not too overpriced i dont think

acoustic timber
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my build, same shit except a 2060 super instead = 1374

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and im sure i can talk bestbuy down a little...AND its a one-stop-shop. no dealing with anything(which is nice sometimes.)

inner lily
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yeah

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and its not too overpriced

acoustic timber
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its cheaper than the pieces by themselves

inner lily
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just the gpu + cpu + ssd i got to around 900 rounding up/down

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and it comes with kb+m, all pre assembeled

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so yeah id say its not too bad of a deal

acoustic timber
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i mean, ive got kb m obviously lol

inner lily
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wifi capability too

acoustic timber
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literally just going to unplug this one and plug that one in. fuck wifi.

inner lily
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XD fair enough

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oh cool and its a 4 slot not 2 slot

acoustic timber
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yea

inner lily
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so you have ram expandability

acoustic timber
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i mean, 2 16s/4 8s

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not going to need more than 32 for the next 5 years

inner lily
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you gonna show em the listing from the other site to talk em down?

acoustic timber
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i dunno

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i might try

inner lily
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i mean if all else fails?

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even if they dont directly price match

acoustic timber
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yea, thats what im saying

inner lily
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but if they do thats a steal LOL

acoustic timber
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literally lmao

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get it, get home...dude shows his manager...manager looks up site and realizes its bullshit

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RIIIIIIIP

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"whyd we sell this pc below cost"

inner lily
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'pricematch'

acoustic timber
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yea, imma go tmrw before work and grab it

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not tryin to do another lego set

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pLuS iTs GoT rBg

inner lily
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is it bad that i genuinely dont enjoy rgb

acoustic timber
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my case is all black

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...

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lol

inner lily
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like the only rgb thing i have enabled on my pc is my motherboard symbol and then my graphics card

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my case has rgb on it but i just have it off

acoustic timber
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my only rbg is my logi logo on my 502

inner lily
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i just dont like rgb throwup casting all over my room

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unless its my keyboard

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but i have like key-press waves

acoustic timber
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lol

inner lily
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im tempted to get an OLED display just for media consumption

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gotta be xtra careful to avoid burnin tho

acoustic timber
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ah...plasma TVs

inner lily
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my current monitor is a uh

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27" viewable LED 144hza

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which im really liking

acoustic timber
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24" aoc freesync 144hz

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because gsync was literally 2x the price

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lmao

fiery nacelle
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get AMD

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!!!

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don't give the greedy guy more reason to rip us off

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LOL

fleet canopy
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AyyyyyyyyMD

inner lily
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i wanna get a really high res display just for media consumption like movies/netflix/yt

acoustic timber
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ive got a 4k tv hooked up sooooooooooooooo

inner lily
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coz for gaming i dont think ill really use anything above 1440p because of price

fiery nacelle
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IPS 27" 4k 60Hz?

inner lily
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was thinking of it^

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looking at dell's infinity edge 4k rn

fiery nacelle
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I got a cheap one

inner lily
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440 for a 27 inch 4k ips

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kinda expensiff

fiery nacelle
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LG 27UD58-B

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IPS 4k 60hz 27" 10-bit panel

fleet canopy
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Isn't like

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One of 1080p 144hz monitors at 350$?

fiery nacelle
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bought it for the equivalent of USD 350

fleet canopy
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I'm not surprised it's expensive

acoustic timber
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mine was 220

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2-3 years ago

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1080 144hz

inner lily
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LMAO

acoustic timber
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but going from 24 to 27 does add a ton of pricetag

fiery nacelle
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yeah

inner lily
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the reason its fucking 440 is because it's actually an AIO pc

fiery nacelle
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and add 4k on top of that ouch

acoustic timber
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only reason i even got this is my friend got 3 of them, decided he didnt want 3 monitors and sold me one

inner lily
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dude ive never had the privilege of more than 1 monitor

acoustic timber
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i used to run 2

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useless for me

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i dont hvae that much add

inner lily
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having 2 seems cool but like i dont have a practical use for it

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like im not going around thinking "man i wish i had a 2nd monitor"

acoustic timber
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i just did it so when my matrix screen saver came on, it looked fucking dope

inner lily
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xd

fleet canopy
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Hmm

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Should I get TN, VA or IPS?

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Because like, I got confused even after a couple of videos e_e

acoustic timber
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TN, duh

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you want 144hz, right?>

fleet canopy
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Alright

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And yeah

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I mean

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Even with VA, there's 144hz

acoustic timber
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IPS has more 'motion blur' VA has amazing color TN is the best response time

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theres always a trade off

fleet canopy
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Mmk

acoustic timber
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TN has the least.....drag.....if you know what i mean

fleet canopy
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Alright

inner lily
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so ideally for a media consumption monitor maybe id want VA?

acoustic timber
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i think IPS has a better quality for picture

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assuming you arent trying to game on it

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but i mean, not everyone sees the same stuff

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look at screen tearing.....some ppl notice it more than others

fleet canopy
acoustic timber
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yea, ive got my old acer next to me. it lasted me like.....6 years, until i needed(wanted) a 144hz.

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and tahts literally what i have, but mines aoc

chrome chasm
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Nice

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It's cheap
convert to CAD
Too much 🙄

fiery nacelle
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Comparison of Panel Technologies:

Color Accuracy / Gamma - IPS > VA >> TN

Color Gamut (wider is better) - VA = IPS >> TN

Response Time (lower is better) - TN > IPS > VA

Contrast Ratio (higher is better) - VA >> IPS = TN

Backlight bleed & glow (less is better) - VA >> IPS = TN

Price (cheaper is better) - TN > VA > IPS

chrome chasm
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Might explaining what IPS / TN / VA ? I don't understand it

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But overall look like VA win.

fiery nacelle
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VA is an ok compromise

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IPS is popular amongst gamers these days I suppose

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IPS / TN / VA are just different methods / technologies of LCD screen implementation

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For LED/LCD TVs, almost all are exclusively VA as the response time required is low but contrast ratio greatly increases quality of picture

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VA's big weakness is terrible response time for certain colors (grey and blacks)

chrome chasm
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ok thanks Sam

naive anchor
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yo

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why cant names be more simple

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lol

grim oracle
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because it is big brain time

naive anchor
inner lily
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so the simple solution to avoid earthquake damage:

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don't shake.

acoustic timber
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sup boys. on that new pc, whaaaaaaaaat

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ready for that alpha to come out

fiery nacelle
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AMD !!!

acoustic timber
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anyone know how to fucking import passwords into firefox from a csv file

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theres no option....anywhere....

void perch
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TLDR - import to chrome them use import from another browser (chrome) to go to FF

acoustic timber
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yea, thats what i was about to do since firefox doesnt allow it anymore

acoustic timber
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annnnnnnnd i cant import into chrome

void perch
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use a password manager like lastpass instead?

acoustic timber
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there we go. so fucking convoluted to import passwords. GUESS ILL FINALLY USE FIREFOX SYNC....

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last time i just hit import in firefox and it was a 'whambamthankyoumaam' done deal

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nooooooooooooooot anymore

fiery nacelle
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how hard can it be to import passwords?

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All you need to remember is to type "PASSWORD" everytime the computer asks for "password"

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LOL

late sorrel
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can we give this man a medal

chrome chasm
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What about 1234? Use it for everything, Discord, bank, credit... XD

fiery nacelle
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Zen 2 SUCKS ASS

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Oops

fiery nacelle
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Userbenchmark is sooo broken

fleet canopy
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Hmm

fiery nacelle
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Should call it SingleCoreTurboBoostedUserBenchmark

harsh terrace
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Also not a lot of people really have systems that compliment/take advantage of ryzen 3000... At least from what I've seen

fiery nacelle
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The 6 core Ryzen 5 3600 and Ryzen 7 3700x are excellent all rounders though

normal ivy
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AMD playing catchup

fiery nacelle
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I'd think its the other way around

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Intel is in big trouble if they don't catch-up

sick reef
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Depends on the market. For Consumers, intel's single-core is still better. But for companies/workspace, the multicore capabilities and performance is more relevant

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It's getting close, though.

north bronze
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Ryzen + Game Dev = ❤

late sorrel
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Anyway, games and software are becoming more multi core friendly, so I have no clue what they’re up to

north bronze
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idk why it's taking games so long to become multicore friendly

fiery nacelle
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Ryzen makes sense in any market - Intel may be slightly ahead for GAMING single threaded scenarios, but the price to performance even for that favours Ryzen

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It'll only be a matter of time before the increasing adoption of Ray Tracing coupled with more focus on multiplayer ensures upcoming games will start to use 6 threads or more

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(especially with rampant use of DRM like Denuvo or game engines like UE4)

acoustic timber
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i7 or bust

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my 2700 is still going. but i just got this new riiig sooooooooooooooo....8700 noooooooooow baby

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i74lyfe

normal ivy
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i got an i7 9700

acoustic timber
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i was thinking about getting the 9700 but the difference is so marginal, i just stuck with the 'a little more tested' one. even though this thing gets haaaaaaaaawt

normal ivy
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In my case either or would've been significant upgrades since my last was an aging laptop

acoustic timber
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but this stock cooler is trash, gotta get something better

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probably an h7 cryorig since that seems to be what everyones saying

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i could get a corsair h60 little liquidcooling kit....it seems to work fine for the 8700s buuuuuuuuut i dont like the idea of having a pump that can go bad

inner lily
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hey deckard how much did you manage to talk them down?

acoustic timber
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1200 soooooooo i mean........nothing crazy

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but saved myself like 300 bucks

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probably a week of ordering and shit. then putting it all together and hoping nothing was DOA

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so i feel like it was a win

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just have to go and get a better cpu cooler cause this stock shit on an 8700 isnt going to cut it...at all

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probably just gonna get a corsair h60....seems to be a decent bet for the price

inner lily
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could get one of those coolermaster giant tower heatsinks

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which are always fun to install..

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e.e

acoustic timber
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yeeeea........i was lookin at the 212 evo

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that things massive

inner lily
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thats what my buddy got

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i was so scared tightening that thing down lol

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i didnt wanna break anything

acoustic timber
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ugh

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i dunno what to getg

inner lily
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i mean

acoustic timber
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1.6lb hanging from my mobo...

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just doesnt make me comfy

inner lily
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AIOs might be a bit more of a hassle if a pump breaks or if something messes up

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yeah believe me thats what i said to my friend "this is really heavy"

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thing with AIOs is if its a small rad one there will be a point where the fins wont be able to bleed off the heat anymore and it will slowly keep rising in temp, but still probably stay lower than stock cooler

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but the air cooler like the 212 has a massive heatsink and it bleeds the heat from it quickly

acoustic timber
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yea....

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dont AIOs handle those 'spikes' better, though?

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and we all know how much the fucking 8700 spikes with win10...

inner lily
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im not exactly too sure, never went for water cooling, but i personally would go with an air cooler because i just find that less points for failure make me a bit more at ease

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even though that thing IS heavy, it's got a nice backplate and the screws are pretty high quality

acoustic timber
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i just dunno if itll fit

inner lily
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in the dwfault cyber power casE?

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default*

acoustic timber
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the rams close to the fan as it is right now

inner lily
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you get some clearance on the 212 tho

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and you can switch the side the fan is on

acoustic timber
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hmmmm

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but i have to wait for shipping

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i hate waiting

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XD

inner lily
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lol!

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oh believe me

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when i was waiting to help my friend build his system

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we waiting in his room for like 3 hours for his mobo.

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like everything BUT the motherboard came in on the same day

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the mobo came in 3 days AFTER everything else XD

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its not like we were missing something like the ram where we could just build the pc and wait to plug it in nah

acoustic timber
#

lol. i remember when i was in high school, i talked my dad into letting me build a pc for my bday + christmas present. that ups driver showed up at 630 on christmas eve....and made me one of the happiest kids ever

#

i was starting to get the 'hes not gonna show up' feeling

#

so i know the waiting game all too well

#

lol

#

i can get next day shipping with the 212 and itll still be cheaper than the h60

#

XD

#

and its on the way

#

hope im not one of those unlucky ppl

inner lily
#

lol

acoustic timber
#

on a site note, cant wait to fucking play gtfo

hexed horizon
#

GTFO release when

acoustic timber
#

dunno

hexed horizon
#

2069

inner lily
#

yeah im excited for gtfo aswell

#

R6:S is just getting on my nerves

acoustic timber
#

once i get that 212 in, imma hit up star citizen and look at that beautiful thing

abstract kite
#

that's painful to watch 👀

wheat magnet
#

I'm not a PC expert by any means, but I cringed looking at this

late sorrel
#

Four things.

#

intel stock fan

#

850m

#

You honestly won't ever use more than 750w

#

and if you do, stop using SLI with your 2080Ti's

#

EVGA gpu GWlulurdMegaLul

#

not plugging in the CPU fan

abstract kite
#

SLI
2080ti

#

I can't trust this man

late sorrel
#

you can SLI with the 2080Ti?

abstract kite
#

no you can't

late sorrel
#

It's just the 2060-2070-2080 you cant

#

ah

abstract kite
#

eh

late sorrel
#

so it's all 2000 series GPU's

abstract kite
#

why the 80ti would be different?

late sorrel
#

yes you fucking can

#

you absolute numpty

abstract kite
#

eeeeeeh

#

wtf nvidia

late sorrel
#

xd

#

anyway

#

a 850w is a waste of money

#

you'll literally never use it

#

unless, you're SLI'ing 2080Ti's

#

on a side note, at least he can do cable management

abstract kite
#

it's not even the same connector

#

how could they do sli

late sorrel
#

you can still SLI

#

be quiet

abstract kite
#

is all this things pure marketing bullshit then?

late sorrel
#

yeppers

abstract kite
#

oh, makes sens now

late sorrel
#

welcome to nvidia

#

yes

#

the 1080Ti is basically a 2080S

#

but um

#

we are still charging the same price

#

have fun with your RTX cores kiddo\

abstract kite
#

2060S is a 2065 and 2070S is a 2075

late sorrel
#

yes

#

but the 2080S is a 2082

abstract kite
#

XDDD

#

but the price of a 2090

#

gib me my 1690ti already

late sorrel
#

🧠

#

big brain time

abstract kite
#

yeah,

late sorrel
#

I love marketing

#

it's terrible

abstract kite
#

this meme works better if you read it backward

late sorrel
#

emit niarb gib 🧠

abstract kite
#

🧠ʇᴉɯǝ qɹɐᴉu qᴉƃ

late sorrel
#

yes

inner lily
#

yikes

lucid osprey
#

ExCuSe Me bUt YoU cAnT sLi WiTh RtX

#

It's called nvlink now

late sorrel
#

same thing

hexed horizon
#

@lucid osprey you

lucid osprey
#

Yes im back again

#

And i shall disappear again

#

👋

inner lily
#

beep boop

fleet canopy
#

Is it required to do anything with the discs that you get from parts? Or is it just for something else that I never really taken a thought to?

normal ivy
#

No it's not

late sorrel
#

It’s the driver disks

#

You used to have to use them to install drivers onto your computer

#

Now you don’t, because windows does it all

fleet canopy
#

Coolio

late sorrel
#

Anyway, if you have issues they're all online, so yeet it into the trash.

#

Unless it's an old piece of kit, you may want to keep that just in case

#

(I'm talking pre-2010) so it's not like it will ever matter

fleet canopy
#

Mmk

acoustic timber
#

(for some reason, ever since 1994....theyve done this with PCs...but it mattered then)

#

who even has cd/dvd roms anymore?

fleet canopy
#

Old people and schools

#

And collectors

#

There's a discord where a few guys keep like almost every Guitar Hero/Band Hero disc games

chrome chasm
#

I still have some VHS

fleet canopy
#

I think there's still some like uhh

chrome chasm
#

But I got no floppy disk

fleet canopy
#

These pretty big discs that're black and plays music pretty much

#

I forget what they're called, okay?

chrome chasm
#

Venyl

fleet canopy
#

Yeah

#

I think I might have some still

#

Some of them from Gorillaz

#

And maybe even a player

chrome chasm
#

Those are worth a small fortune

fleet canopy
#

Or my brother took them, yeet

chrome chasm
#

If they are old and genuine in good condition

fleet canopy
#

lmao

#

Have a nice sleep

inner lily
#

sup dorks

fleet canopy
#

Hello

inner lily
#

how ya doin today? any interesting tech news that i mightve missed out on?

fleet canopy
#

Eh

#

I'm good

#

Haven't checked up much what happened tech related besides talking about CD/DVDs

#

Oh yeah

#

There was a guy who wanted to buy the PC that ha da PS4, Xbox, and a switch thing

inner lily
#

the origin o?

fleet canopy
#

Yeah

inner lily
#

isn't that just a marketing thing thats no for sale

fleet canopy
#

It probably will be on sale

#

It's literally like

#

Expected to be 8K USD

inner lily
fleet canopy
#

Well

#

It's possibly on sale

#

Since they probably will sell to you

inner lily
#

why would you want to buy a system with a ps4/xbo/switch it in anyway when the new ps and xb are coming out next year

#

especially for that absurd price

fleet canopy
#

I know

#

The guy really wants it

#

lmao

#

Said it had an RTX Titan or something like that

inner lily
#

mhm

fleet canopy
#

With SSDs or HDDs going at 14 TB

#

Too damn absurd

inner lily
#

ew its a seagate drive

#

lol

fleet canopy
#

kek

inner lily
#

18tb of seagate harddrives, id be surprised if it lasted long

fleet canopy
#

kek

#

It's so horrible

#

He said he wasn't using it for gaming though GWchinaSakuraThinking

#

He was gonna use the Titan for like

#

Game developing and stuff like that

inner lily
#

then just buy a titan

fleet canopy
#

lmao

inner lily
#

origin overprices their pcs a shit ton

fleet canopy
#

More cheaper than the blyat O

#

Yes

inner lily
#

maybe it will change now that corsair owns them

#

but i highly doubt it

#

corsair needs the muhnee

fleet canopy
#

Corsair needs to make a keyboard and mouse just perfect for me

inner lily
#

im personally loving my K95 Plat

#

had it for.. 2 years now?

fleet canopy
#

I had this other mouse I really liked

#

Went through two of them not lasting too long

inner lily
#

im using some cheap shit 200g chinese mouse

fleet canopy
#

It's probably because I didn't use a mouse pad or something

#

Most likely not cleaning them

inner lily
#

lul

fleet canopy
#

Overall

inner lily
#

on my list for my setup redo is

fleet canopy
#

I loved it tbh

inner lily
#

-2080S
-Index
-new mouse
-mousepad
-2nd monitor
-soundbar

#

2080s and index are the most important to me tho

fleet canopy
#

Soundbar?

inner lily
#

yeah

fleet canopy
#

Haven't heard of that word

inner lily
#

for watching movies n shit, my monitor sound output is ass

fleet canopy
#

Ah

inner lily
#

its like a speaker, but its a bar

#

lol

#

could sit nicely under your monitor

fleet canopy
#

Ah

inner lily
#

ugh

fleet canopy
#

Ug

inner lily
#

ive got like 3 old pcs i havent bothered to even look at

fleet canopy
#

e_e

inner lily
#

but i kinda wanna fix em up

#

ones a dell desktop

#

another is an HP laptop

#

and ones just a nondescript motherboard

#

with cpu, cooler, and ram

fleet canopy
#

Well

#

You could probably sell it ig

inner lily
#

im assuming its intel

fleet canopy
#

It's most likely Intel

#

kek

inner lily
#

waiiit

#

no way

#

theres no way its this old

fleet canopy
#

Wat?

inner lily
#

IT HAS A SUPER i/O CHIP

fleet canopy
#

Oh

inner lily
#

theres no wayyyy

fleet canopy
#

That's expensive as fuck wtf

#

500 USD

#

Started to be used in PCs in late 1980s

#

Damn

#

And it's half a thousand

inner lily
#

Intel Pentium 4 SL7PK

fleet canopy
#

I mean

inner lily
#

discontinued, sells for about 50 on ebay

fleet canopy
#

Would that Super I/O chip price increase?

#

Or decrease?

inner lily
#

came out in 2002

fleet canopy
#

Hmm

inner lily
#

dude im like

#

this is almost older than me

#

and i doubt its actually worth that much tbh

fleet canopy
#

What do you mean?

#

The Super chip or CPU?

inner lily
#

just the entire thing

#

its dated

#

as hell

fleet canopy
#

Hehe

inner lily
#

im gonna start looking and googling some of these numbers on this board

#

gonna try and figure out what exactly it is

#

i think i misidentified the superio thing, it might not even be one. saw the SMSC and kinda freaked out

#

gonna look more into it

fleet canopy
#

Oof

inner lily
#

NOOO

fleet canopy
#

What ._.

inner lily
#

):

#

found that on closer inspection

fleet canopy
#

W h a t ?

inner lily
#

the bent thing

#

):

fleet canopy
#

Yikes

inner lily
#

thats the processor

#

sorry hold on ill try and tweak the brightness

fleet canopy
#

kek

inner lily
fleet canopy
#

Oh jesus

#

The wear on it

#

Makes it hard to read e_e

inner lily
#

alright well imma head out to work

#

ill probably try to get the system up and running within the next couple months (dont have money for PSU, nor do i have money or the time to try and get it running right now lol)

fleet canopy
#

Hehe

#

Have a good time

inner lily
#

think win7 would work on it?

fleet canopy
#

Uhh

inner lily
#

or should i go and attempt to get XP working

fleet canopy
#

I mean, you should try XP

inner lily
#

from what ive heard people have not had luck getting XP to work

fleet canopy
#

Win 7 is gonna end in a couple months or something

#

Oof

inner lily
#

yeah but i wouldnt be keeping the system tbh

#

id probably make sure it all works then part it out

#

cpu i could fetch 50$ from

#

mobo probably 45-50

fiery nacelle
#

@inner lily Hey ever considered headsets, they are nice (sound isolation)

#

BTW are you planning on building a new system?

fleet canopy
#

Pretty sure Sig wanted like

#

An upgrade

fiery nacelle
#

what's his existing system like?

fleet canopy
#

Don't know

#

Never mentioned his build

normal ivy
#

By the looks it’s outdated

normal ivy
#

With intel it’s more brand and reliability

#

AMD is playing catch-up so cost efficiency has to be their friend

fiery nacelle
#

Admittedly with new architectures, come teething problems, early adopter tax and hiccups haha

#

There have been quite a few with the Zen 2 launch

#

supposedly AMD is issuing a statement / update today

#

Intel has much less worries in this regards due to their old architecture

#

(I still remember the major issues with Sandy Bridge launch 9 years ago)

#

wait it was 8 years ago

normal ivy
#

Well I’d throw performance up there for intel also they still have the edge

fiery nacelle
#

slight edge for gaming, comes at some extra cost though

#

Those on mixed workloads may want to look at Ryzen though (assuming they aren't using too much QuickSync)

inner lily
#

@fiery nacelle that CPU that was shown was one that i found on an older mobo that was given to me

#

my current build is a Ryzen 5 2600 , 16 gb of ram @ 3000MHZ and a 1050ti 4gb

#

planning to upgrade from a 1050ti to a 2080s

fiery nacelle
#

Oh what you have is a pretty modern system

#

If you have to stick to Nvidia, perhaps the 2070 Super is a much better value proposition than the 2080 Super

fiery nacelle
fleet canopy
#

What

#

Hell yes

dense wasp
#

haha

acoustic timber
#

WOOOOOOO got that hyper 212 installed

#

leaves me about 1MM between the tip of the copper pipes and the side of my case. lmao

abstract kite
#

yeetston

fiery nacelle
#

any of you got a couple of pink ponies turning around for you in your hearts?

pallid cedar
#

my Ryzen 7 2700 @ 4GHz is working wonders for me paired with my ROG STRIX RTX 2060

acoustic timber
#

i got a 2070 strix. lovin this thing

#

and that hyper 212 evo took me from ~85 with the stock cooler to ~65. fucking nuts

inner lily
#

and less points for failure!

acoustic timber
#

yuuuup. lovin this thing.

inner lily
#

oh lordx

#

i cant decide dude

#

the gaming x trio isnt in stock and i could wait for it.. or i could just get the asus dual fan model

sick reef
#

Is the difference big enough, is the question you'd ask yourself.

inner lily
#

the gaming x trio has the all metal backplate with thermal pads on it and a huge heatsink + 3 fans so it'd stay significantly cooler

#

and its only 20$ more

#

but by the time its out i could have the money to just.. buy a 2080ti lol

sick reef
#

How significantly cooler? forsenThink And if that's your main concern, isn't pre-bought AIO a better solution.

inner lily
#

2080S AIOs are like 50$ more than just a triple fan

#

and that's a blower style + small rad

#

so in the end it'd probably be about the same

sick reef
#

Maybe so. Depends on the rest of the rig more, I guess.

inner lily
#

i dunno man, it all depends

#

if i get hired at this second job i want then im definitely going for a 2080ti.

#

if not, might just stick with 2080S

sick reef
#

Yeah.

inner lily
#

im an indecisive little shit lmao

sick reef
#

It's difficult in its nature because they make it obscure on purpose.

inner lily
#

yeah

#

i wish i didnt need to upgrade but the 1050ti just aint powerful enough to run the Index

fleet canopy
#

e_e

inner lily
#

hi dork

fleet canopy
#

Hello

inner lily
#

how ya doin

fleet canopy
#

Am doing good

inner lily
#

thats good

fleet canopy
#

How about you?

inner lily
#

p good

fleet canopy
#

Nice

vague lake
#

hello?!

#

im stressed out rn

#

i have a i7-7740x with the Cooler-master ML120L installed

#

i got temps high as 80-90 while gaming

late sorrel
#

that’s not good

vague lake
#

yes

#

i was looking to buy a air cooler

#

can this fix the problem?

#

the radiator from the watercooler is also hot

sick reef
#

Do you have enough airflow?

vague lake
#

yes

#

i pried open the glas from my front case

#

more airflow rn

sick reef
#

And the fans can pull the air through the radiator and case?

vague lake
#

the radiator is on the back

#

i got a pic

#

the front panel glass is off

normal ivy
#

I’ve got 5 case fans, hyper 212 cooler, and 3 fans on my graphics card

#

My system stays really low temperature wise

vague lake
#

mine is not

#

sadly

#

is getting a new cpu cooler a improvemt?

normal ivy
#

Is your CPU temperature high?

vague lake
#

yes

#

like rn i'm on discord

#

and yt

#

50

#

degrees

late sorrel
#

That’s what it should be on load

vague lake
#

yES!

late sorrel
#

or at least, light load

vague lake
#

so whats the best solution?

late sorrel
#

I’m not sure

sick reef
#

Uh

late sorrel
#

Try putting the fan on the front

normal ivy
#

I think that’s quite high lol

late sorrel
#

no way

vague lake
#

the fan?

late sorrel
#

Yeah

#

put the radiator on the front

normal ivy
#

Doing all that I’m around like 35 C

sick reef
#

I dunno about you, but my 7940X runs 32-34 degree idle at 4.8Ghz.

late sorrel
#

Instead of the exhaust

normal ivy
#

Same lab

vague lake
#

wtf!

#

i will try

late sorrel
#

It still shouldn’t be 80

#

I think we can agree that that’s the important part xd

sick reef
#

No, something feels off.

vague lake
#

like all heat is going trough the radiator

sick reef
#

Especially if it can transfer the heat to the radiator.

#

Maybe it's boosting the clock wrong.

vague lake
#

no

#

its stock

#

no boosting

normal ivy
#

You’re probably better off getting a new CPU cooler in general

sick reef
#

No turbo or such shazz then?

vague lake
#

nope

#

yea intel turbo shit

#

pre installed

sick reef
#

If a program, like dosbox did to me, tries to max your CPU, then that could make it hit a instant max.

vague lake
#

prime95

sick reef
#

Or well, mine hit 60-70 kind of.

vague lake
#

all cpu max

#

reaches 100c

normal ivy
#

Jesus

sick reef
#

It reaches 100C not because of CPU max, but probably the turbo function if that's active.

#

But yeah, a small radiator handles heat accumilation poorly.

#

Maybe it doesn't fully matter.

#

Due to the small radiator, if it is the boost or not.

vague lake
#

i can turn it off

#

in bios

sick reef
#

Yeah.

vague lake
#

Intel® Turbo Boost Technology 2.0

sick reef
#

It boosts the clock, yes, but it is very energy inefficient.

#

It might fix it.

vague lake
#

turn it off?

sick reef
#

Turbo function.

#

You want it to not boost.

vague lake
#

ill turn it off

sick reef
#

Do so.

vague lake
#

brb

sick reef
#

But yeah, what would fix it indefinitely is to get a properly sized radiator.

vague lake
#

Or a new air cooler?

sick reef
#

I'm unsure if an air cooler would be better.

#

I haven't looked a lot into that. only that you can get similar temperatures.

#

A small radiator might so work for my 1080 Ti, but my CPU would generate too much heat for it to be able to handle, it would be a two fan size radiator at the very least.

#

As for air, if I had the space, it wouldn't be as good.

vague lake
#

I got a rx 590

inner lily
#

1st of all, nice build. 2nd of all, after that reboot and turning it off how is it?

vague lake
#

Still 50

inner lily
#

hm

#

mounting pressure good enough? is this a recent development?

sick reef
#

Have you tried just turning the fans to blow from back to forth.

inner lily
#

is the pump dead?

sick reef
#

That's a good question.

vague lake
#

I hope not

inner lily
#

doesnt the pump make an audible noise?

#

i cant remember

sick reef
#

Audible, barely.

inner lily
#

i mean if you get close i_think

vague lake
#

Like pump is running

normal ivy
#

You could view that in the bios as well

vague lake
#

How?

sick reef
#

You could see RPM and PWM signal, but if it's 12V through or not isn't doable in Bios.

vague lake
#

2230 rpm pumpfan

sick reef
#

And the pump?

vague lake
#

That is the pump

sick reef
#

That's the pumpfan.

#

I guess it's just the name.

#

I haven't had 50 degrees in a build idle ever, apart from when I had FE 1080 TI.

#

I'd suggest testing to turn the fans the other way.

inner lily
#

check mounting pressure too, like maybe take the pump off and re-apply some thermal paste, and re-seat it

#

dont want your cpu and mobo dying

vague lake
#

Like also

#

This cpu

#

I7-7740x

#

its normal for this kind of cpu to reach these temps?

sick reef
#

Dunno. Depends on cooling solution.

inner lily
sick reef
#

So when I run my Kabylake-X series i9 at 33 degrees that's not normal?

inner lily
#

definitely not, your cpu is malfunctioning and you should obviously upgrade to a FX 4300

sick reef
#

Absolutely.

vague lake
#

So they need to run at this high temps?

sick reef
#

No, but it's likely the radiator that is undersized, in contrast to the temp accumilation.

inner lily
#

thats one thing that i talked to someone about yesterday

#

how with rads eventually youll reach an equlibrium where you cant get rid of all that heat

sick reef
#

As it states, it will be extremely warm.

inner lily
#

but with air coolers you dont have that as fast/as often

normal ivy
#

Yeah I’d recommend a reseat and redo the thermal paste

inner lily
#

try to go light until you can decide if you wanna get an air cooler or not

sick reef
#

Well, yeah. Only that the equilibrium on a good/large enough radiator can be ambient

normal ivy
#

If it’s still that way after then you know you’d need a new cooler

inner lily
#

and that rad is pretty small so

sick reef
#

^

#

That's the main issue.

#

An aircooler would require good flowthrough.

inner lily
#

psh

#

just do what i do

#

throw a 20 inch box fan on the side :D

vague lake
#

I got good airflow

sick reef
#

Well. I placed a 46mm rad, double fan, on the side

#

Or, protruding from there at least.

vague lake
#

But a new cooler could fix the problem?

#

Also i cant fix a larger raditator

#

Fit*

#

Thats that max size

inner lily
#

oh shit yeah you dont have a top mount

vague lake
#

Aircooler it is

normal ivy
#

Get a hyper 212 also

inner lily
#

my buddy has a 212

#

someone else in here just got a 212 and he loves it

vague lake
#

Why is that cooler so populair

inner lily
#

because its a good cooler

normal ivy
#

Extremely reliable

inner lily
#

and like sub 50$

normal ivy
#

There’s like no complaints on reviews about it

sick reef
#

Couldn't you fit a radiator in the front? forsenThink

normal ivy
#

Overall everyone is satisfied

vague lake
#

no

#

Scythe Mugen 5 Rev.B a better one?

sick reef
#

What a piece of work. Have a huge front, but it's not usable apart from looks.

#

Absolutely satisfied with just bastarding an old case into use.

vague lake
#

soo Scythe Mugen 5 Rev.B vs hyper 212

#

or wil the hyper 212 do the job?

#

ARCTIC Freezer 33 eSport

normal ivy
#

I haven’t seen or used the scythe but speaking from experience im completely satisfied with the 212

#

I usually play games on max settings and push my system and it still stays low temperature wise

#

Or at least compared to what you’re used to

vague lake
#

i bought the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition

hexed horizon
#

👍

fiery nacelle
#

"Women's big man, super-evolved"

lucid osprey
fiery nacelle
#

Needs more RGB man

#

RGB front intake and rear exhaust fans ought to do the trick

urban gulch
#

Looks nice. 😃

normal ivy
#

Looks good but one case fan or are more hiding on the top?

abstract kite
#

first impression: hey it's kinda like mine

#

second impression: wait mine is not very original

#

talking about my pc I added my own RBG inside just yesterday

sick reef
#

It looks neat.

abstract kite
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thx ( 'w')

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seems a bit empty tho

sick reef
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Only one fan in front, though forsenThink

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Yeah, exactly.

abstract kite
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yeah I wanted to put be quiet fans everywhere but ran out of budget

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I gave myself 2k€

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I paid 1999.45€

sick reef
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Be quiet fans isn't the best if you actually want quiet, though? As they are not the most efficient.

abstract kite
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just because when I clicked "order" it said to me that the ssd was no longer available, and in fact they put the same one but a bit cheaper XD

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ah? they seems good

sick reef
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I'd look deeper into it, noise normalised, before I made big decisions.

abstract kite
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ah yeah, I forgot about the noctua redux

sick reef
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Now, I use 5 Delta's, so I haven't looked at that myself, but I saw some of it when I looked up fans.

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I'll show mine as I haven't in a while

north bronze
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My case's gonna be black with orange lighting 👀

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because I love that combo

abstract kite
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that looks... experimental I guess

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be quiet silent wings 3 are way better than noctua redux

sick reef
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It truly is. A ton of hard work. But it payed off only a few kinks left.

abstract kite
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way more silent, faster, and nearly twice as expensive

sick reef
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Well, last time I looked and saw noise normalised was half a year ago, so that could be true.

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The power button whilst I can make it work, I haven't had the energy to fix it, and I have to fix the HDD tray

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Mosly cosmetics, but the HDD tray serves a practical function, and the power button is needed if I want to ever close it up

urban gulch
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Gotta say, i love the creativity of people.

normal ivy
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I went for a high end build but aesthetically it’s basic unless you’d think a blackout is nice

sick reef
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Oh yeah, if any one of you ever decide to get a Fan Controller that is software controlled, never get the Corsair Commander Pro.

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Never ever get that one.

abstract kite
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and when I say "my own RGB" I mean that I made the device sending power to the led strip and controlling the color

sick reef
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Ah, neat! Do you have it do effects, or is it just constant light?

abstract kite
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for now it's programmed as color sweep, the hue changes linearly over time

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but it's an old design (2016) and I wasn't as I good in electronics as I am today, so the usb is not working

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but even tho I can't change the effect, at least it works

sick reef
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Getting a USB to work shouldn't be that difficult though? If it's into an internal USB, it's passthrough right?

abstract kite
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nah, it's just a matter of package and pinout

sick reef
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-/D+/D-/5+

abstract kite
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I fucked up the mcu pinout, so the usart device and spi can't be on the pins, and the DFN package is a bit too hard to solder so idk why but the ftdi chip is not working anymore

sick reef
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Ah, damn.

abstract kite
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I think I'll use a stm32f072 next time, easier to use