#pc-build-help-and-tech-talk
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im really hoping i get this second job so i can build an absolute overkill system lmao
ive got a 1060 6gig right now. lol. i just want a new mobo and ram and shit
i cant upgrade anything anymore past the gpu....
ah my buddys' got a 1060 3g
its a 9 year old mobo
Ryzen 7 2700 is plenty ok rite?
he just upgraded from an FX 8350 to a R5 3600
oh you meant i7-2700
yeaaaaaaaa
@inner lily thats a great gaming chip
2700 vs 8700 isnt that big of a difference...but EVERYTHING else is impossible to upgrade
hey man I got an i7-2600 with RX 480 8GB
im rockin ddr2, my dude
rn ive got a R5 2600 w/ 16 gb ddr4 @ 3000mhz and a 1050ti 4g lol
planning to upgrade from 1050ti to 2080s
@inner lily all that needs is a new AMD GPU haha
@acoustic timber wait for Intel to initiate their 15% price cut perhaps then snap up the 9900k?
theres been a lot of artifacting issues with the new AMD gpu's because of blower style lol
cooking the card to like 90c
oh but 9900k is 8/16
@inner lily probs have to wait for the AIB custom RX 5700 XT with dual axial fans
meh. 8700k is the beez neeeeeeeeeyzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
im going for an msi gaming x trio 2080s
supposedly wont be in stock till aug 16th according to b&h tho
RTX 2080 Supers are of poor value - well according to reviewers anyway
yeah so ive heard - they're putting them around the 1080ti range
thats why i dont care about 9th gen i7s
but im not interested in getting into a week long bid war just for a 1080ti
userbenchmark scores are broken right now
i just want a kickass gpu that i wont have to worry about till i build my overkill pc
they've recently changed their scoring
@inner lily maybe until you've started to build that PC, then shop around for a GPU?
afterall, Nvidia is transitioning to 7nm
and RDNA 2 is around the corner
any x700(not 1st gen, ew), is basically the same thing. OBVIOUSLY THEY GET FASTER.... but the step ups iarent massive...
either that or the RX 5800XT
ive recently upgraded my cpu is the thing, the only thing left over from my old build IS the 1050ti
old build was FX 4300 w/ 8gb ddr3 @1666mhz and a 1050ti
hey man, i ran arma 3 servers with 30+ people on that thing. AND played at the same time
that's even worse than @acoustic timber
it worked
haha
yup 😄
was it even possible to run a server and play ARMA 3 smoothly at the same time?
ish.
Newer CPU intense games like Insurgency Sandstorm, etc are already cpu bottlenecked on my i7-2600...
sad
constantly drop to like 10-15fps but with an fx4300 and a 1050ti i kinda got used to it
i7s, not 1st gen, are beasts
only thing now is i went from a CPU bottleneck to a GPU bottleneck
literally best chip in the last 10 years
now i get stutters in Siege randomly in gunfights
but when i plopped my buddys' 1660ti into my system it worked just fine no stutters
yeah tbh amd "high end" gpus being NV mid tier is kinda annoying
ford or lincoln, baby!
I'd take a toyota if I had to pay for the capital and maintenance cost haha
amd is good if you arent breaking your bank. intel is there for the people who want that primo
like sure you can use powertables on the 5700/xt and get around the same performance of a 2080/2080s but realistically if youre going to put that much effort into it get a 2080/s and OC that
pontiac = poor old .... nvm
LOL
@inner lily Hmmm, but you have to pair it with a good monitor to make the RTX 2080 and above worth it
yeah i mean
at least 27" IPS 1440p 144Hz
i want the 2080s to fuel my Index
that would be matching
1050ti just wont cut it
never get a 5
8 if youre a baller, 7 if you on that middle class(YA FEEL ME), 6 if youre tryin to skimp but still be runnin aiiiiight.
5 is that....amd level. LOL
im not the one who bought the 5, my buddy had it in his system and when he upgraded to a 1660ti he gave me his
why not both - RX 5800XT LOL
before the 1050ti.. i had an RX 460 LOL
wait so now you have a 1660Ti?
the 1660?
yeah thats what i tried to tell my buddy
it's ok value for money I guess
just get a radeon at that point
1660 shouldnt exist
for those on 1080p 60 fps
True @acoustic timber Radeon RX 570 and 580s are so cheap now
and once you understand how the whole 'series' thing works...it just makes you sick and stick with the lower card
I think it was like 140+
because, lets be real, ITS A LOTTERY
silicon lottery
or was it silicone
one was for semiconductors, the other was for tits
when i learned how the whole process worked of them making chips and cards...i was like.............
they bin them of course
now they are smarter by selling higher bins for higher prices
well the 5700xt 50th anniversary are just 5700xt chips that performed better
so they're upmarking them
why do people on reddit keep calling it silicone lottery
i just dont want to buy that ibuypower because I THINK it has an ASRock mobo
it is not like we are hiring and binning hookers with fake t*ts
@acoustic timber Asrock is cheap - sometimes has its issues though
its not even a branded one
erh... probs not Asus for AM4 this time around
AM4 X570 - Giga and MSI
AM4 X470 - MSI
i mean, its a prebuilt. they use the cheapest pieces of silicon they can find
lol
bulk buy the cheap stuff....winnnnnnning
asus prime z390s seem to be pretty goooooooooooooooooooooooooood
my buddy went with a gigabyte board
and the I/O cover actually was interefering with the case
so we had to take it off to mount the board
or buy right and not worry about it for almost a decade 😃
nah
I mean
that's the most expensive route
Totally could go for cheaper
buy cheaper and change every 4 years
ive bought 2 cards for this pc.....so in 10 years, ive spent 1500 on it....total.
hmmmmmmmmmmmmm
H m m
the beauty of an i7
when i was first getting into pc gaming i bought a prebuilt and regretted it
i9 man
500$ for a FX 4300 and an RX 460 in 2016.
i dont need a server processor to play games on, no thaaaaaaanks
lul
"i bought a titan to play games" - ppl blowing money in 2016
Compaq, IBM, etc
kek
i ride the line of expensive cheap
i5-9600K + RTX 2060 Super
not building a 2k pc...not building a $500 pc
annnnnnnnnnnnnnnd i just dont like saying "i have an i5"
I mean
today's i5 is better than yesterday's i7 rite?
ill spend the extra 50 for the i7
yeah the Ryzen 5 3600 is beating the Ryzen 7 1700
:P
That 'i5' or 'i7' just means nothing
It's just the performance each CPU gives
And the price too
8c/8t > 6c/12t - for gaming
assuming same clocks
once the thread counts go above 4, an SMT thread is probably worth anywhere from 10% to 30% of a real physical core anyway
newegg ran out of 2080 super stock real fast
even nvidia's not selling on their site anymore
big ouchies
why do AIBs even make blower style cooler cards? especially since the default card isnt even blower style?
blower styles are shit though on more recent cards
maybe in SFF but not in any normal mid or full size
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3zEZKQv8Zk theres a video of a dude reviewing it
it's not bad. not too overpriced i dont think
my build, same shit except a 2060 super instead = 1374
and im sure i can talk bestbuy down a little...AND its a one-stop-shop. no dealing with anything(which is nice sometimes.)
its cheaper than the pieces by themselves
just the gpu + cpu + ssd i got to around 900 rounding up/down
and it comes with kb+m, all pre assembeled
so yeah id say its not too bad of a deal
i mean, ive got kb m obviously lol
wifi capability too
literally just going to unplug this one and plug that one in. fuck wifi.
yea
so you have ram expandability
you gonna show em the listing from the other site to talk em down?
yea, thats what im saying
but if they do thats a steal LOL
literally lmao
get it, get home...dude shows his manager...manager looks up site and realizes its bullshit
RIIIIIIIP
"whyd we sell this pc below cost"
'pricematch'
yea, imma go tmrw before work and grab it
not tryin to do another lego set
pLuS iTs GoT rBg
is it bad that i genuinely dont enjoy rgb
like the only rgb thing i have enabled on my pc is my motherboard symbol and then my graphics card
my case has rgb on it but i just have it off
my only rbg is my logi logo on my 502
i just dont like rgb throwup casting all over my room
unless its my keyboard
but i have like key-press waves
lol
im tempted to get an OLED display just for media consumption
gotta be xtra careful to avoid burnin tho
ah...plasma TVs
AyyyyyyyyMD
i wanna get a really high res display just for media consumption like movies/netflix/yt
ive got a 4k tv hooked up sooooooooooooooo
coz for gaming i dont think ill really use anything above 1440p because of price
IPS 27" 4k 60Hz?
I got a cheap one
bought it for the equivalent of USD 350
I'm not surprised it's expensive
LMAO
but going from 24 to 27 does add a ton of pricetag
yeah
the reason its fucking 440 is because it's actually an AIO pc
and add 4k on top of that ouch
only reason i even got this is my friend got 3 of them, decided he didnt want 3 monitors and sold me one
dude ive never had the privilege of more than 1 monitor
having 2 seems cool but like i dont have a practical use for it
like im not going around thinking "man i wish i had a 2nd monitor"
i just did it so when my matrix screen saver came on, it looked fucking dope
xd
Hmm
Should I get TN, VA or IPS?
Because like, I got confused even after a couple of videos e_e
IPS has more 'motion blur' VA has amazing color TN is the best response time
theres always a trade off
Mmk
TN has the least.....drag.....if you know what i mean
Alright
so ideally for a media consumption monitor maybe id want VA?
i think IPS has a better quality for picture
assuming you arent trying to game on it
but i mean, not everyone sees the same stuff
look at screen tearing.....some ppl notice it more than others
I've heard good things about this monitor https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06ZYHZ6R6/?tag=pcpapi-20
yea, ive got my old acer next to me. it lasted me like.....6 years, until i needed(wanted) a 144hz.
and tahts literally what i have, but mines aoc
Comparison of Panel Technologies:
Color Accuracy / Gamma - IPS > VA >> TN
Color Gamut (wider is better) - VA = IPS >> TN
Response Time (lower is better) - TN > IPS > VA
Contrast Ratio (higher is better) - VA >> IPS = TN
Backlight bleed & glow (less is better) - VA >> IPS = TN
Price (cheaper is better) - TN > VA > IPS
Might explaining what IPS / TN / VA ? I don't understand it
But overall look like VA win.
VA is an ok compromise
IPS is popular amongst gamers these days I suppose
IPS / TN / VA are just different methods / technologies of LCD screen implementation
For LED/LCD TVs, almost all are exclusively VA as the response time required is low but contrast ratio greatly increases quality of picture
VA's big weakness is terrible response time for certain colors (grey and blacks)
ok thanks Sam
because it is big brain time
AMD !!!
anyone know how to fucking import passwords into firefox from a csv file
theres no option....anywhere....
TLDR - import to chrome them use import from another browser (chrome) to go to FF
yea, thats what i was about to do since firefox doesnt allow it anymore
annnnnnnnd i cant import into chrome
use a password manager like lastpass instead?
there we go. so fucking convoluted to import passwords. GUESS ILL FINALLY USE FIREFOX SYNC....
last time i just hit import in firefox and it was a 'whambamthankyoumaam' done deal
nooooooooooooooot anymore
how hard can it be to import passwords?
All you need to remember is to type "PASSWORD" everytime the computer asks for "password"
LOL
can we give this man a medal
What about 1234? Use it for everything, Discord, bank, credit... XD
12-core Ryzen 9 3900x cannot even beat 4-core Intel i3-9350KF ???
Zen 2 SUCKS ASS
See even 8 core / 16 thread Ryzen 7 2700 barely beats lowly 4 core / 4 thread i3-8100
See even 8 core / 16 thread Ryzen 7 2700 barely beats lowly 4 core / 4 thread i3-8100
Oops
Userbenchmark is sooo broken
Hmm
Should call it SingleCoreTurboBoostedUserBenchmark
Also not a lot of people really have systems that compliment/take advantage of ryzen 3000... At least from what I've seen
The 6 core Ryzen 5 3600 and Ryzen 7 3700x are excellent all rounders though
AMD playing catchup
Depends on the market. For Consumers, intel's single-core is still better. But for companies/workspace, the multicore capabilities and performance is more relevant
It's getting close, though.
Ryzen + Game Dev = ❤
Anyway, games and software are becoming more multi core friendly, so I have no clue what they’re up to
idk why it's taking games so long to become multicore friendly
Ryzen makes sense in any market - Intel may be slightly ahead for GAMING single threaded scenarios, but the price to performance even for that favours Ryzen
It'll only be a matter of time before the increasing adoption of Ray Tracing coupled with more focus on multiplayer ensures upcoming games will start to use 6 threads or more
(especially with rampant use of DRM like Denuvo or game engines like UE4)
i7 or bust
my 2700 is still going. but i just got this new riiig sooooooooooooooo....8700 noooooooooow baby
i74lyfe
i got an i7 9700
i was thinking about getting the 9700 but the difference is so marginal, i just stuck with the 'a little more tested' one. even though this thing gets haaaaaaaaawt
In my case either or would've been significant upgrades since my last was an aging laptop
but this stock cooler is trash, gotta get something better
probably an h7 cryorig since that seems to be what everyones saying
i could get a corsair h60 little liquidcooling kit....it seems to work fine for the 8700s buuuuuuuuut i dont like the idea of having a pump that can go bad
hey deckard how much did you manage to talk them down?
1200 soooooooo i mean........nothing crazy
but saved myself like 300 bucks
probably a week of ordering and shit. then putting it all together and hoping nothing was DOA
so i feel like it was a win
just have to go and get a better cpu cooler cause this stock shit on an 8700 isnt going to cut it...at all
probably just gonna get a corsair h60....seems to be a decent bet for the price
could get one of those coolermaster giant tower heatsinks
which are always fun to install..
e.e
thats what my buddy got
i was so scared tightening that thing down lol
i didnt wanna break anything
i mean
AIOs might be a bit more of a hassle if a pump breaks or if something messes up
yeah believe me thats what i said to my friend "this is really heavy"
thing with AIOs is if its a small rad one there will be a point where the fins wont be able to bleed off the heat anymore and it will slowly keep rising in temp, but still probably stay lower than stock cooler
but the air cooler like the 212 has a massive heatsink and it bleeds the heat from it quickly
yea....
dont AIOs handle those 'spikes' better, though?
and we all know how much the fucking 8700 spikes with win10...
im not exactly too sure, never went for water cooling, but i personally would go with an air cooler because i just find that less points for failure make me a bit more at ease
even though that thing IS heavy, it's got a nice backplate and the screws are pretty high quality
i just dunno if itll fit
the rams close to the fan as it is right now
lol!
oh believe me
when i was waiting to help my friend build his system
we waiting in his room for like 3 hours for his mobo.
like everything BUT the motherboard came in on the same day
the mobo came in 3 days AFTER everything else XD
its not like we were missing something like the ram where we could just build the pc and wait to plug it in nah
lol. i remember when i was in high school, i talked my dad into letting me build a pc for my bday + christmas present. that ups driver showed up at 630 on christmas eve....and made me one of the happiest kids ever
i was starting to get the 'hes not gonna show up' feeling
so i know the waiting game all too well
lol
i can get next day shipping with the 212 and itll still be cheaper than the h60
XD
im about to doooooooooo it
and its on the way
hope im not one of those unlucky ppl
lol
on a site note, cant wait to fucking play gtfo
GTFO release when
dunno
2069
once i get that 212 in, imma hit up star citizen and look at that beautiful thing
I'm not a PC expert by any means, but I cringed looking at this
Four things.
intel stock fan
850m
You honestly won't ever use more than 750w
and if you do, stop using SLI with your 2080Ti's
EVGA gpu 
not plugging in the CPU fan
you can SLI with the 2080Ti?
no you can't
eh
so it's all 2000 series GPU's
why the 80ti would be different?
xd
anyway
a 850w is a waste of money
you'll literally never use it
unless, you're SLI'ing 2080Ti's
on a side note, at least he can do cable management
is all this things pure marketing bullshit then?
yeppers
oh, makes sens now
welcome to nvidia
yes
the 1080Ti is basically a 2080S
but um
we are still charging the same price
have fun with your RTX cores kiddo\
2060S is a 2065 and 2070S is a 2075
yeah,
this meme works better if you read it backward
emit niarb gib 🧠
🧠ʇᴉɯǝ qɹɐᴉu qᴉƃ
yes
yikes
same thing
@lucid osprey you
beep boop
Is it required to do anything with the discs that you get from parts? Or is it just for something else that I never really taken a thought to?
No it's not
It’s the driver disks
You used to have to use them to install drivers onto your computer
Now you don’t, because windows does it all
Coolio
Anyway, if you have issues they're all online, so yeet it into the trash.
Unless it's an old piece of kit, you may want to keep that just in case
(I'm talking pre-2010) so it's not like it will ever matter
Mmk
(for some reason, ever since 1994....theyve done this with PCs...but it mattered then)
who even has cd/dvd roms anymore?
Old people and schools
And collectors
There's a discord where a few guys keep like almost every Guitar Hero/Band Hero disc games
I still have some VHS
I think there's still some like uhh
But I got no floppy disk
These pretty big discs that're black and plays music pretty much
I forget what they're called, okay?
Venyl
Yeah
I think I might have some still
Some of them from Gorillaz
And maybe even a player
Those are worth a small fortune
Or my brother took them, yeet
If they are old and genuine in good condition
But i've strayed you from #pc-build-help-and-tech-talk . Going back to sleep! Nice talk about new PC parts!
sup dorks
Hello
how ya doin today? any interesting tech news that i mightve missed out on?
Eh
I'm good
Haven't checked up much what happened tech related besides talking about CD/DVDs
Oh yeah
There was a guy who wanted to buy the PC that ha da PS4, Xbox, and a switch thing
the origin o?
Yeah
isn't that just a marketing thing thats no for sale
why would you want to buy a system with a ps4/xbo/switch it in anyway when the new ps and xb are coming out next year
especially for that absurd price
I know
The guy really wants it
lmao
Said it had an RTX Titan or something like that
mhm
kek
18tb of seagate harddrives, id be surprised if it lasted long
kek
It's so horrible
He said he wasn't using it for gaming though 
He was gonna use the Titan for like
Game developing and stuff like that
then just buy a titan
lmao
origin overprices their pcs a shit ton
maybe it will change now that corsair owns them
but i highly doubt it
corsair needs the muhnee
Corsair needs to make a keyboard and mouse just perfect for me
I had this other mouse I really liked
Went through two of them not lasting too long
im using some cheap shit 200g chinese mouse
It's probably because I didn't use a mouse pad or something
Most likely not cleaning them
lul
Overall
on my list for my setup redo is
I loved it tbh
-2080S
-Index
-new mouse
-mousepad
-2nd monitor
-soundbar
2080s and index are the most important to me tho
Soundbar?
yeah
Haven't heard of that word
for watching movies n shit, my monitor sound output is ass
Ah
Ah
ugh
Ug
ive got like 3 old pcs i havent bothered to even look at
e_e
but i kinda wanna fix em up
ones a dell desktop
another is an HP laptop
and ones just a nondescript motherboard
with cpu, cooler, and ram
im assuming its intel
Wat?
IT HAS A SUPER i/O CHIP
theres no wayyyy
That's expensive as fuck wtf
500 USD
Started to be used in PCs in late 1980s
Damn
And it's half a thousand
Intel Pentium 4 SL7PK
I mean
discontinued, sells for about 50 on ebay
came out in 2002
Hmm
dude im like
this is almost older than me
and i doubt its actually worth that much tbh
Hehe
im gonna start looking and googling some of these numbers on this board
gonna try and figure out what exactly it is
i think i misidentified the superio thing, it might not even be one. saw the SMSC and kinda freaked out
gonna look more into it
Oof
NOOO
What ._.
W h a t ?
Yikes
kek
alright well imma head out to work
ill probably try to get the system up and running within the next couple months (dont have money for PSU, nor do i have money or the time to try and get it running right now lol)
think win7 would work on it?
Uhh
or should i go and attempt to get XP working
I mean, you should try XP
from what ive heard people have not had luck getting XP to work
yeah but i wouldnt be keeping the system tbh
id probably make sure it all works then part it out
cpu i could fetch 50$ from
mobo probably 45-50
@inner lily Hey ever considered headsets, they are nice (sound isolation)
BTW are you planning on building a new system?
what's his existing system like?
By the looks it’s outdated
With intel it’s more brand and reliability
AMD is playing catch-up so cost efficiency has to be their friend
Admittedly with new architectures, come teething problems, early adopter tax and hiccups haha
There have been quite a few with the Zen 2 launch
supposedly AMD is issuing a statement / update today
Intel has much less worries in this regards due to their old architecture
(I still remember the major issues with Sandy Bridge launch 9 years ago)
wait it was 8 years ago
Well I’d throw performance up there for intel also they still have the edge
slight edge for gaming, comes at some extra cost though
Those on mixed workloads may want to look at Ryzen though (assuming they aren't using too much QuickSync)
@fiery nacelle that CPU that was shown was one that i found on an older mobo that was given to me
my current build is a Ryzen 5 2600 , 16 gb of ram @ 3000MHZ and a 1050ti 4gb
planning to upgrade from a 1050ti to a 2080s
Oh what you have is a pretty modern system
If you have to stick to Nvidia, perhaps the 2070 Super is a much better value proposition than the 2080 Super
haha
WOOOOOOO got that hyper 212 installed
leaves me about 1MM between the tip of the copper pipes and the side of my case. lmao
yeetston
any of you got a couple of pink ponies turning around for you in your hearts?
my Ryzen 7 2700 @ 4GHz is working wonders for me paired with my ROG STRIX RTX 2060
i got a 2070 strix. lovin this thing
and that hyper 212 evo took me from ~85 with the stock cooler to ~65. fucking nuts
and less points for failure!
yuuuup. lovin this thing.
oh lordx
i cant decide dude
the gaming x trio isnt in stock and i could wait for it.. or i could just get the asus dual fan model
Is the difference big enough, is the question you'd ask yourself.
the gaming x trio has the all metal backplate with thermal pads on it and a huge heatsink + 3 fans so it'd stay significantly cooler
and its only 20$ more
but by the time its out i could have the money to just.. buy a 2080ti lol
How significantly cooler?
And if that's your main concern, isn't pre-bought AIO a better solution.
2080S AIOs are like 50$ more than just a triple fan
and that's a blower style + small rad
so in the end it'd probably be about the same
Maybe so. Depends on the rest of the rig more, I guess.
i dunno man, it all depends
if i get hired at this second job i want then im definitely going for a 2080ti.
if not, might just stick with 2080S
Yeah.
im an indecisive little shit lmao
It's difficult in its nature because they make it obscure on purpose.
yeah
i wish i didnt need to upgrade but the 1050ti just aint powerful enough to run the Index
e_e
hi dork
Hello
how ya doin
Am doing good
thats good
How about you?
p good
Nice
hello?!
im stressed out rn
i have a i7-7740x with the Cooler-master ML120L installed
i got temps high as 80-90 while gaming
that’s not good
yes
i was looking to buy a air cooler
can this fix the problem?
the radiator from the watercooler is also hot
Do you have enough airflow?
And the fans can pull the air through the radiator and case?
I’ve got 5 case fans, hyper 212 cooler, and 3 fans on my graphics card
My system stays really low temperature wise
Is your CPU temperature high?
That’s what it should be on load
yES!
or at least, light load
so whats the best solution?
I’m not sure
Uh
Try putting the fan on the front
I think that’s quite high lol
no way
the fan?
Doing all that I’m around like 35 C
I dunno about you, but my 7940X runs 32-34 degree idle at 4.8Ghz.
Instead of the exhaust
Same lab
No, something feels off.
like all heat is going trough the radiator
Especially if it can transfer the heat to the radiator.
Maybe it's boosting the clock wrong.
You’re probably better off getting a new CPU cooler in general
No turbo or such shazz then?
If a program, like dosbox did to me, tries to max your CPU, then that could make it hit a instant max.
prime95
Or well, mine hit 60-70 kind of.
Jesus
It reaches 100C not because of CPU max, but probably the turbo function if that's active.
But yeah, a small radiator handles heat accumilation poorly.
Maybe it doesn't fully matter.
Due to the small radiator, if it is the boost or not.
Yeah.
Intel® Turbo Boost Technology 2.0
turn it off?
ill turn it off
Do so.
brb
But yeah, what would fix it indefinitely is to get a properly sized radiator.
Or a new air cooler?
I'm unsure if an air cooler would be better.
I haven't looked a lot into that. only that you can get similar temperatures.
A small radiator might so work for my 1080 Ti, but my CPU would generate too much heat for it to be able to handle, it would be a two fan size radiator at the very least.
As for air, if I had the space, it wouldn't be as good.
I got a rx 590
1st of all, nice build. 2nd of all, after that reboot and turning it off how is it?
Still 50
Have you tried just turning the fans to blow from back to forth.
is the pump dead?
That's a good question.
I hope not
Audible, barely.
i mean if you get close 
Like pump is running
You could view that in the bios as well
How?
You could see RPM and PWM signal, but if it's 12V through or not isn't doable in Bios.
2230 rpm pumpfan
And the pump?
That is the pump
That's the pumpfan.

I guess it's just the name.
I haven't had 50 degrees in a build idle ever, apart from when I had FE 1080 TI.
I'd suggest testing to turn the fans the other way.
check mounting pressure too, like maybe take the pump off and re-apply some thermal paste, and re-seat it
dont want your cpu and mobo dying
Like also
This cpu
I7-7740x
its normal for this kind of cpu to reach these temps?
Dunno. Depends on cooling solution.
So when I run my Kabylake-X series i9 at 33 degrees that's not normal?
definitely not, your cpu is malfunctioning and you should obviously upgrade to a FX 4300
Absolutely.
So they need to run at this high temps?
No, but it's likely the radiator that is undersized, in contrast to the temp accumilation.
thats one thing that i talked to someone about yesterday
how with rads eventually youll reach an equlibrium where you cant get rid of all that heat
As it states, it will be extremely warm.
but with air coolers you dont have that as fast/as often
Yeah I’d recommend a reseat and redo the thermal paste
try to go light until you can decide if you wanna get an air cooler or not
Well, yeah. Only that the equilibrium on a good/large enough radiator can be ambient
If it’s still that way after then you know you’d need a new cooler
and that rad is pretty small so
I got good airflow
Well. I placed a 46mm rad, double fan, on the side
Or, protruding from there at least.
But a new cooler could fix the problem?
Also i cant fix a larger raditator
Fit*
Thats that max size
oh shit yeah you dont have a top mount
Aircooler it is
Get a hyper 212 also
Why is that cooler so populair
because its a good cooler
Extremely reliable
and like sub 50$
There’s like no complaints on reviews about it
Couldn't you fit a radiator in the front? 
Overall everyone is satisfied
What a piece of work. Have a huge front, but it's not usable apart from looks.
Absolutely satisfied with just bastarding an old case into use.
soo Scythe Mugen 5 Rev.B vs hyper 212
or wil the hyper 212 do the job?
ARCTIC Freezer 33 eSport
I haven’t seen or used the scythe but speaking from experience im completely satisfied with the 212
I usually play games on max settings and push my system and it still stays low temperature wise
Or at least compared to what you’re used to
i bought the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition
👍
what do you guys think ||gauging first reactions||
Looks nice. 😃
Looks good but one case fan or are more hiding on the top?
first impression: hey it's kinda like mine
second impression: wait mine is not very original
talking about my pc I added my own RBG inside just yesterday
It looks neat.
yeah I wanted to put be quiet fans everywhere but ran out of budget
I gave myself 2k€
I paid 1999.45€
Be quiet fans isn't the best if you actually want quiet, though? As they are not the most efficient.
just because when I clicked "order" it said to me that the ssd was no longer available, and in fact they put the same one but a bit cheaper XD
ah? they seems good
I'd look deeper into it, noise normalised, before I made big decisions.
ah yeah, I forgot about the noctua redux
Now, I use 5 Delta's, so I haven't looked at that myself, but I saw some of it when I looked up fans.
I'll show mine as I haven't in a while
that looks... experimental I guess
be quiet silent wings 3 are way better than noctua redux
It truly is. A ton of hard work. But it payed off only a few kinks left.
way more silent, faster, and nearly twice as expensive
Well, last time I looked and saw noise normalised was half a year ago, so that could be true.
The power button whilst I can make it work, I haven't had the energy to fix it, and I have to fix the HDD tray
Mosly cosmetics, but the HDD tray serves a practical function, and the power button is needed if I want to ever close it up
Gotta say, i love the creativity of people.
I went for a high end build but aesthetically it’s basic unless you’d think a blackout is nice
Oh yeah, if any one of you ever decide to get a Fan Controller that is software controlled, never get the Corsair Commander Pro.
Never ever get that one.
and when I say "my own RGB" I mean that I made the device sending power to the led strip and controlling the color
Ah, neat! Do you have it do effects, or is it just constant light?
for now it's programmed as color sweep, the hue changes linearly over time
but it's an old design (2016) and I wasn't as I good in electronics as I am today, so the usb is not working
but even tho I can't change the effect, at least it works
Getting a USB to work shouldn't be that difficult though? If it's into an internal USB, it's passthrough right?
nah, it's just a matter of package and pinout
-/D+/D-/5+
I fucked up the mcu pinout, so the usart device and spi can't be on the pins, and the DFN package is a bit too hard to solder so idk why but the ftdi chip is not working anymore
Ah, damn.
I think I'll use a stm32f072 next time, easier to use

