#pc-build-help-and-tech-talk | GTFO | Page 26

hollow summit Jul 20, 2019, 9:09 AM

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ok

inner lily Jul 20, 2019, 9:09 AM

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index is definitely what im going for

hollow summit Jul 20, 2019, 9:10 AM

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so, my thinking is

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You can have lighthouses in the purple spots

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either on the wall or on the ceiling

inner lily Jul 20, 2019, 9:10 AM

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that lighthouse at the top there would be like right over my desk is that alright?

hollow summit Jul 20, 2019, 9:10 AM

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and they will track anything inside the yellow area perfectly

inner lily Jul 20, 2019, 9:10 AM

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because thats where i want to plug my PC in

hollow summit Jul 20, 2019, 9:11 AM

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Seems so, yeah

inner lily Jul 20, 2019, 9:11 AM

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alright

hollow summit Jul 20, 2019, 9:11 AM

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I mean again, lighthouses themselves, only need a power outlet

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nothing else

inner lily Jul 20, 2019, 9:11 AM

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well ill be able to know a bit more this sunday once i rearrange my room

hollow summit Jul 20, 2019, 9:11 AM

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so the only concern is having power, and having a wall/ceiling to screw them in

inner lily Jul 20, 2019, 9:11 AM

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the one thing im REALLY worried about the index is ive seen people completely break the controllers by hitting them against a wall while they play

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xD

hollow summit Jul 20, 2019, 9:11 AM

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but Lighthouse 2.0 stations have much better range ability than 1.0, and they can capture any play area you want in between them

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so, if you set them up like that, you should have no problem tracking the entirety of your yellow area

inner lily Jul 20, 2019, 9:12 AM

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OH! another thing i really enjoy about the index is that it actually supports up to like

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4 2.0 lighthouses?

hollow summit Jul 20, 2019, 9:12 AM

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Oh yeah, when you start off I recommend changing the chaperone area

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specifically, enable permanent floor markers

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do you can always see the edges of your play space on the floor

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and not just when you're close to the edges

inner lily Jul 20, 2019, 9:12 AM

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yeah that seems useful

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so you can know if youre centered

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does uh

hollow summit Jul 20, 2019, 9:13 AM

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2 is more than enough for a single VR set :)

inner lily Jul 20, 2019, 9:13 AM

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does the Index have pass-through video? i forget

hollow summit Jul 20, 2019, 9:13 AM

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4 is usually required for OBSCENELY HUGE ROOMS

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and multiple headsets

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yeah, index has pass-through

inner lily Jul 20, 2019, 9:13 AM

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dude totally gonna buy a house and have a gigantic room for just vr

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entire basement? just vr

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ez clapo

hollow summit Jul 20, 2019, 9:13 AM

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Hey you know how people get sweaty playing active games in VR?

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just set your VR up in the private pool

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THONK

inner lily Jul 20, 2019, 9:14 AM

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i was told i should buy like

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a VR cover

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for my index

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like for a more comfy face rest thing

hollow summit Jul 20, 2019, 9:14 AM

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like one of those rubber things?

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Oh, you mean the face mask thing

inner lily Jul 20, 2019, 9:14 AM

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yeah

hollow summit Jul 20, 2019, 9:14 AM

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I don't know if they make any for Index yet

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plus, I heard Index ones are EXCELLENT

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like several marks above anything else made to date

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so I'm not sure

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for Vive yeah, extra masks are useful

inner lily Jul 20, 2019, 9:15 AM

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im a bit worried bc

hollow summit Jul 20, 2019, 9:15 AM

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there's some made of better material, and some that are just easier to clean

inner lily Jul 20, 2019, 9:15 AM

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itll be more than just me using the headset

hollow summit Jul 20, 2019, 9:15 AM

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but with Index - I doubt you'd need it that much

inner lily Jul 20, 2019, 9:15 AM

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and ive heard multiple people on a headset can get bad

hollow summit Jul 20, 2019, 9:15 AM

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oh yeah it's a sanitary thing

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your face is covered in bacteria and such, and other people have their own bacteria on the face

inner lily Jul 20, 2019, 9:15 AM

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like it'd be me, my 2 friends, and my mother/sister probably playing on it

hollow summit Jul 20, 2019, 9:15 AM

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so sharing a headset can be iffy

inner lily Jul 20, 2019, 9:15 AM

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so im hoping that uh

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that face thingie that the index has is easily washable

hollow summit Jul 20, 2019, 9:16 AM

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In that case it's best to order a couple extras, yeah

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have a personal one for each member

inner lily Jul 20, 2019, 9:16 AM

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yeah that'd be smart

hollow summit Jul 20, 2019, 9:16 AM

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it's easily washable, sure, it's also easy to take off and put a new one on

inner lily Jul 20, 2019, 9:16 AM

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mhm

hollow summit Jul 20, 2019, 9:16 AM

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so ideally you'd just have a couple

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so nobody uses the same one

inner lily Jul 20, 2019, 9:16 AM

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what i did for my index was

hollow summit Jul 20, 2019, 9:16 AM

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I recently ordered a bunch for my Vive for that same reason

inner lily Jul 20, 2019, 9:16 AM

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i reserved a unit because i was told by media outlets itd be backlogged till September/November

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and 3 days after

hollow summit Jul 20, 2019, 9:16 AM

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I really want to show it off to friends and using the same mask... eeeehhhhh

inner lily Jul 20, 2019, 9:17 AM

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"oh btw ur index is available for purchase"

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and like.. i HAVE the money. but not a graphics card powerful enough to run it.

hollow summit Jul 20, 2019, 9:17 AM

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Well hey that's because you're part of the backlog 😉

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I'm... gonna have to wait a long time for mine.

inner lily Jul 20, 2019, 9:17 AM

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not in us?

hollow summit Jul 20, 2019, 9:17 AM

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I live in Ukraine, so for me it's waiting until it's commonly available

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then until someone imports it

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then paying 35% extra for it

inner lily Jul 20, 2019, 9:17 AM

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just get urself a plug in the us to mail it to u

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smh

hollow summit Jul 20, 2019, 9:17 AM

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because haha import tax

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:[

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oh I have a plug in the US to mail it

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But I still need it commonly available

inner lily Jul 20, 2019, 9:18 AM

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ah right

hollow summit Jul 20, 2019, 9:18 AM

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before I can actually shed the $$

inner lily Jul 20, 2019, 9:18 AM

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yeah makes sense

hollow summit Jul 20, 2019, 9:18 AM

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I'm also saving up in cash, so I'd need for someone else to pay for it THERE, and then I pay them HERE

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At least I don't need new lighthouses

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So it's going to be cheaper

inner lily Jul 20, 2019, 9:19 AM

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thats an upside!

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the uh

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the headset itself i think is 500

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and if u get w/ controllers its 750?

hollow summit Jul 20, 2019, 9:19 AM

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And controllers are 279 I think

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yeah, so with 35% import it's gonna be right back to $1000 🙂

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better than $1400!

inner lily Jul 20, 2019, 9:19 AM

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okay so additional face plates are

hollow summit Jul 20, 2019, 9:20 AM

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And then I'll stick to 90hz until I can upgrade my PC

inner lily Jul 20, 2019, 9:20 AM

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40$ for a 2 pack

hollow summit Jul 20, 2019, 9:20 AM

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But the important part is future-proofing!

inner lily Jul 20, 2019, 9:20 AM

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i know this 2600 can last for a couple years

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considering i was easily gaming on an FX 4300

hollow summit Jul 20, 2019, 9:21 AM

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Yeah, I'm on a 3770K :V

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quite old

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but it's delid, with liquid metal applied, so it runs at 4.3GHz per core

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so I can actually handle 90hz VR

inner lily Jul 20, 2019, 9:21 AM

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not bad!

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yeah my first pc was a "gaming" prebuilt

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bought in 2015/2016

hollow summit Jul 20, 2019, 9:21 AM

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I'll definitely need to upgrade in a year or two, though

inner lily Jul 20, 2019, 9:21 AM

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FX 4300, RX 460

hollow summit Jul 20, 2019, 9:21 AM

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by then the second gen Ryzens should be very cheap

inner lily Jul 20, 2019, 9:21 AM

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8gb DDR3 ram @ 2133

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paid 500 bucks

hollow summit Jul 20, 2019, 9:22 AM

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hehe, hey, 2133MHz! That's more than mine still has!

inner lily Jul 20, 2019, 9:22 AM

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i still have yet to enable XMP

hollow summit Jul 20, 2019, 9:22 AM

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I run 16 gigs, but on 1600MHz

inner lily Jul 20, 2019, 9:22 AM

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in my bios

hollow summit Jul 20, 2019, 9:22 AM

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I'd upgrade the RAM, but the system is so old I'd need to upgrade everything quite soon anyways

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And then DDR3 will be useless, I'll need DDR4

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so keeping the money

inner lily Jul 20, 2019, 9:23 AM

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yeah thats what sucks about changing sockets

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is then you need to upgrade the ram if ur on a DDR3 system

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and also the mobo.. and cpu

hollow summit Jul 20, 2019, 9:23 AM

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Hey I'm just glad my 2014-era PC is still doing as well as it does

inner lily Jul 20, 2019, 9:23 AM

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it's not bad

hollow summit Jul 20, 2019, 9:24 AM

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But I've reached the peak of where it can go

inner lily Jul 20, 2019, 9:24 AM

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i was VERY proud of my FX4300 and RX 460 holding up

hollow summit Jul 20, 2019, 9:24 AM

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I'll need a full upgrade if I'm to keep up with VR

inner lily Jul 20, 2019, 9:24 AM

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i got ~60fps on medium in Siege

hollow summit Jul 20, 2019, 9:24 AM

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Yeah I can still do most games on 120hz with high-extra settings, very happy

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but VR is a whole other league

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And like, older graphics cards, in particular

inner lily Jul 20, 2019, 9:24 AM

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yeah currently im on a r5 2600 with a 1050ti

hollow summit Jul 20, 2019, 9:24 AM

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Suffer a lot with resolutions

inner lily Jul 20, 2019, 9:25 AM

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and this 1050ti really isnt cutting it anymore

hollow summit Jul 20, 2019, 9:25 AM

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Oh... yeah... 1050 Ti probably won't work well for Index at all

inner lily Jul 20, 2019, 9:25 AM

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yeah thats why im lookin to upgrade

hollow summit Jul 20, 2019, 9:25 AM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHenNCmIiWQ recently watched this video (I hope links to tech stuff are ok!)

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this guy tested the Index on a 1060 3GB

inner lily Jul 20, 2019, 9:26 AM

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if this 2080s is good enough im definitely buying it

hollow summit Jul 20, 2019, 9:26 AM

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and it's basically unplayable

inner lily Jul 20, 2019, 9:26 AM

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oh this guy!

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i love this guyt

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ive been watching him a lot recently because ive been looking into VR so much

hollow summit Jul 20, 2019, 9:26 AM

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yeah thrillseeker makes nice videos, I like them

inner lily Jul 20, 2019, 9:26 AM

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only 5k subs is sad tho

hollow summit Jul 20, 2019, 9:26 AM

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He's only just starting out, it's growing

inner lily Jul 20, 2019, 9:26 AM

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he's a good content creator. does a lot of informative stuff

hollow summit Jul 20, 2019, 9:27 AM

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I very much like hearing about the problems Index has

inner lily Jul 20, 2019, 9:27 AM

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yes

hollow summit Jul 20, 2019, 9:27 AM

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Cause I want it, and I'm still sure it's worth my money

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But it's good to know what problems it has

inner lily Jul 20, 2019, 9:27 AM

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it's always good to see someone who highlights issues as much as they highlight plusses

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a lot of people i know who buy expensive things completely outright ignore blatant issues because they want to feel good that their money was spent well

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to be honest.. i think the most stupid purchase ill make within the next 3-4 months

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is paying someone to make me a special vr chat model.

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XD

hollow summit Jul 20, 2019, 9:28 AM

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The most interesting conversation about Index for me was around its "sweet spot"

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Because people treat the idea of a "sweet spot" very differently

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So from what I understand, setting up the Index to a point where everything looks crystal-clear is very very difficult

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but, once you do that

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You can actually look around with just the pupils

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instead of turning your head

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because the clarity is EXTREMELY good, all across the lens

inner lily Jul 20, 2019, 9:29 AM

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i just wanna be able to READ man

hollow summit Jul 20, 2019, 9:29 AM

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well exactly, when you read

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not all the text is right in the middle

inner lily Jul 20, 2019, 9:30 AM

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being able to read in vr is very important to me xD

hollow summit Jul 20, 2019, 9:30 AM

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and with older headsets (Vive oh Vive) you basically have to turn your head to follow the words you're reading

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otherwise it's a blurry mess

inner lily Jul 20, 2019, 9:30 AM

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idk why but it just is. it's such a simple thing that a lot of people can do.. and not being able to do that sucks

hollow summit Jul 20, 2019, 9:30 AM

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Index is the one where that doesn't happen

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It's very difficult to set up, but when it's set up that doesn't happen

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And I mean I say "difficult"

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you have all the tools you need to set it up

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It just takes time

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Like you just need to drag that lens slider left and right until you find the right spot

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It's not THAT difficult, it's more difficult than on other headsets, that's all

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And it's completely worth it

inner lily Jul 20, 2019, 9:31 AM

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yeah thats the thing i was trying to do with the Rift

hollow summit Jul 20, 2019, 9:31 AM

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Because after you do it everything is way clearer

inner lily Jul 20, 2019, 9:31 AM

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but with the rift i couldnt read unless i constantly pushed that slider up

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and if i let go of the slider i couldnt read anymore.

hollow summit Jul 20, 2019, 9:32 AM

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Hmm, that sounds like the headset was a bit too low on your head

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Probably needed some strap adjustment, actually

inner lily Jul 20, 2019, 9:32 AM

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i had adjusted it for like

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an hour+ just messing with it trying to get it right

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and no matter what i did i couldnt get it to work

hollow summit Jul 20, 2019, 9:32 AM

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Well, the slider adjusts the distance between two lenses, sideways

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What you also need to set up is how the headset sits VERTICALLY

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you do that with the strap

inner lily Jul 20, 2019, 9:33 AM

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mhm which i did and i found it weird how if i pushed that button up i could read but if i let it sit normally i couldnt

hollow summit Jul 20, 2019, 9:33 AM

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But yeah first gen VR had issues with keeping something stable on your head

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So I hear ya

inner lily Jul 20, 2019, 9:33 AM

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im so excited dude

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i get to build THREE PCS within a month of eachother

hollow summit Jul 20, 2019, 9:33 AM

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For Vive there's a Deluxe Audio Strap that fixes that, but that's $100 extra for something Index has stock :P

inner lily Jul 20, 2019, 9:33 AM

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mine, and two of my buddies

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lol!

hollow summit Jul 20, 2019, 9:34 AM

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Oh nice!

inner lily Jul 20, 2019, 9:34 AM

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the thing is i'd really like to get into pc building as a job yknow?

hollow summit Jul 20, 2019, 9:34 AM

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I've recently bought a new case for my PC, cause the old one was just... awful

inner lily Jul 20, 2019, 9:34 AM

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like i love being around tech and im not really smart enough to code anything so its like.. why not just build pcs?

hollow summit Jul 20, 2019, 9:34 AM

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It's so much fun rejigging all the cables to fit a new box

inner lily Jul 20, 2019, 9:34 AM

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i'd love to work at a company like Ironside or similar

hollow summit Jul 20, 2019, 9:35 AM

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Yeah, I hear you, I actually work at an IT department, specifically dealing with the machines at my workplace

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Cause that's just fun

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fun taking PC's to pieces, fun putting them together

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fun setting up a firewall and a router and connecting all the wires so people have network and Internet

inner lily Jul 20, 2019, 9:35 AM

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yes exactly

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that kinda stuff the hands on experience

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is the thing i love.

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not too much on the technical side besides setting up some software, drivers, etc

hollow summit Jul 20, 2019, 9:36 AM

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God I really need to take a look at our traffic rules, there's so much I want to fix

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I haven't really tried programming, myself

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so I can't be completely sure I don't enjoy it

inner lily Jul 20, 2019, 9:36 AM

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my extent of programming was uh

hollow summit Jul 20, 2019, 9:36 AM

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But generally just reading code... I get lost very easily

inner lily Jul 20, 2019, 9:36 AM

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OpenComputers in minecraft.

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and some HTML in high school

hollow summit Jul 20, 2019, 9:36 AM

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so I'm just not sure I can get into that

inner lily Jul 20, 2019, 9:37 AM

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yeah i feel you there

hollow summit Jul 20, 2019, 9:37 AM

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A colleague of mine does all the programming we might need, he's good with that I let him stay good with that

inner lily Jul 20, 2019, 9:37 AM

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i just realized how freakin early it is

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i should probably hop off ive been talking in here for like 2 hours

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its 5:37 AM

hollow summit Jul 20, 2019, 9:37 AM

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Hahahah, hey it's nearly 1PM here 😆

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Yeah take a rest, good night!

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Oh... uh

inner lily Jul 20, 2019, 9:37 AM

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nice talking to you man!

hollow summit Jul 20, 2019, 9:37 AM

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good morning!

inner lily Jul 20, 2019, 9:38 AM

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xD

hollow summit Jul 20, 2019, 9:38 AM

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xD

inner lily Jul 20, 2019, 9:38 AM

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have a nice day talk to you some other time

fleet canopy Jul 20, 2019, 3:02 PM

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Well

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Yikes

lavish briar Jul 20, 2019, 11:11 PM

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But yeah, I'll find out next time if it has worked. Thanks for the help though @sick reef

sick reef Jul 20, 2019, 11:11 PM

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Yeah. It's just the reset part that is important, so it doesn't have the service active.

lavish briar Jul 20, 2019, 11:13 PM

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Gotcha.

fleet canopy Jul 20, 2019, 11:15 PM

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Wasn't there something about the current 5700 XT being better in performance compared to the aftermarkets?

sick reef Jul 20, 2019, 11:16 PM

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That would be wholly surprising because from what I heard, the FE was abhorrent.

fleet canopy Jul 20, 2019, 11:17 PM

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Hmm

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Probably due to being too hot to perform well ig?

sick reef Jul 20, 2019, 11:18 PM

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Because they use graphite sheet, which has bad thermal performance, and it has poor contact with the heatsink.

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So not only one performance decrease, but two.

fleet canopy Jul 20, 2019, 11:18 PM

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Yikes

inner lily Jul 21, 2019, 8:19 AM

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Hallo

fleet canopy Jul 21, 2019, 8:19 AM

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Hello

inner lily Jul 21, 2019, 8:24 AM

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How ya doin

fleet canopy Jul 21, 2019, 8:25 AM

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Good

inner lily Jul 21, 2019, 8:26 AM

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That's good

fleet canopy Jul 21, 2019, 8:26 AM

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Am gonna sleep soon

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Or now

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Depends

inner lily Jul 21, 2019, 8:29 AM

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Lol

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I'm in too much pain to sleep

fleet canopy Jul 21, 2019, 8:43 AM

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Oof

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My left leg is like

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In pain

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A lil

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And for some reason

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Punching it helps

abstract tulip Jul 21, 2019, 8:45 AM

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Is it a robotic leg? chonk

fleet canopy Jul 21, 2019, 8:47 AM

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No

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Real 100% human leg

abstract tulip Jul 21, 2019, 8:48 AM

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Then we should walk over to #general SmirkGuns

gusty glacier Jul 21, 2019, 8:58 AM

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Pre order RTX 3080TI and get Ricardo Milos banner | limited time

fleet canopy Jul 21, 2019, 8:58 AM

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No

late sorrel Jul 21, 2019, 8:59 AM

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yes

fleet canopy Jul 21, 2019, 8:59 AM

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But the 3080 Ti GWmythicalThonkCool What would be it's performance?

late sorrel Jul 21, 2019, 8:59 AM

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A 2080Ti+1060

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because go nvidia

fleet canopy Jul 21, 2019, 8:59 AM

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Hmm

late sorrel Jul 21, 2019, 9:00 AM

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Honestly, I wasn’t aware we were this behind in graphics cards

fleet canopy Jul 21, 2019, 9:00 AM

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But I'm going full on AMD with GPU and CPU

late sorrel Jul 21, 2019, 9:00 AM

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like the 5700XT can’t do 144fps on ultra for a couple of the AAA games

fleet canopy Jul 21, 2019, 9:00 AM

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GWczoLoliShrug

late sorrel Jul 21, 2019, 9:00 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/user/TintedMirrors/saved/WrvDxr

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that’s what I’m looking at

fleet canopy Jul 21, 2019, 9:01 AM

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'This part list is private'

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Nothing

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:)

late sorrel Jul 21, 2019, 9:01 AM

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oh goddammit

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pFvWV6

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try this

fleet canopy Jul 21, 2019, 9:02 AM

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Yeet

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lmao oof

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I thought I was looking at my build

late sorrel Jul 21, 2019, 9:02 AM

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lmao

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what’s yours?

fleet canopy Jul 21, 2019, 9:02 AM

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It's a bit less, but it's still pretty good https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sy6nZR

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I'm gonna try the overclock

late sorrel Jul 21, 2019, 9:03 AM

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same

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oh, a 3600

fleet canopy Jul 21, 2019, 9:03 AM

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I won't mind paying 120$ extra for 3700X tbh

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The build itself is like

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1300$

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Without monitor

late sorrel Jul 21, 2019, 9:03 AM

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I’m hoping I’ll have adequate cooling for the 3700x’s auto-overclock

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Also, doesn’t the H500 have shit airflow?

fleet canopy Jul 21, 2019, 9:04 AM

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Hmm

late sorrel Jul 21, 2019, 9:04 AM

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That’s what put me off the H500I

fleet canopy Jul 21, 2019, 9:04 AM

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idk

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I mean

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You can just look up at videos

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And decide GWworkshopAkaShrug

late sorrel Jul 21, 2019, 9:05 AM

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GWdogawooThrugging

fleet canopy Jul 21, 2019, 9:05 AM

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Oh you were talking about the case

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I'm so dum

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I don't know to be honest

late sorrel Jul 21, 2019, 9:06 AM

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uwu

fleet canopy Jul 21, 2019, 9:06 AM

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Already on the start of the video

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If I do fans correectly

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Good airflow

late sorrel Jul 21, 2019, 9:07 AM

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hrm

fleet canopy Jul 21, 2019, 9:07 AM

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If not, shit ass airflow

late sorrel Jul 21, 2019, 9:07 AM

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I mean I want to keep the RGB in the same spectrum

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software

fleet canopy Jul 21, 2019, 9:08 AM

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I don't care much for RGB at least lmao

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Well I mean

late sorrel Jul 21, 2019, 9:08 AM

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Neither do I, but it’s going on my desk

fleet canopy Jul 21, 2019, 9:08 AM

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A little touch of RGB is nice

late sorrel Jul 21, 2019, 9:08 AM

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Perf > rgb

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but I do have rgb ram

fleet canopy Jul 21, 2019, 9:08 AM

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Not too much RGB like these people with laser shows behind every crack

late sorrel Jul 21, 2019, 9:08 AM

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so a little bit would be cool

fleet canopy Jul 21, 2019, 9:09 AM

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Yeah RAM in list is RGB as well

late sorrel Jul 21, 2019, 9:09 AM

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Ram & fans is all I’m doing

fleet canopy Jul 21, 2019, 9:09 AM

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Fans is just gonna be the Noctua

late sorrel Jul 21, 2019, 9:09 AM

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an RGB GPU is just stupid

fleet canopy Jul 21, 2019, 9:09 AM

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No RGB yeet

late sorrel Jul 21, 2019, 9:10 AM

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yeet

fleet canopy Jul 21, 2019, 9:10 AM

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Apparently

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On the reviews of the PC part picker

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They're both pretty good

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I'm gonna have to watch the video then

late sorrel Jul 21, 2019, 9:18 AM

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oof

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do if it

gusty glacier Jul 21, 2019, 9:18 AM

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im gonna buy a toaster

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and more RGB

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The house will be like a christmas tree

fleet canopy Jul 21, 2019, 9:19 AM

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Then get the Ryzen Toaster

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No wait

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That's uhh

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What the hell company made the toaster?

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That green logo thing

gusty glacier Jul 21, 2019, 9:19 AM

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I will get 60hz and low spec pc - get razer respawn and see everything 240hz and ultra xd

fleet canopy Jul 21, 2019, 9:20 AM

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Yeah Razer toaster

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It has overheating issues but

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It performs really well

gusty glacier Jul 21, 2019, 9:20 AM

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I will put it in a safe place

late sorrel Jul 21, 2019, 9:20 AM

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yeah

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ryzen toaster

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it’s a good buy

gusty glacier Jul 21, 2019, 9:20 AM

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6.7 ghz

fleet canopy Jul 21, 2019, 9:20 AM

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Without the memeing, why did they even make it?

gusty glacier Jul 21, 2019, 9:21 AM

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They want to cook stuff that gives the aim of shr0ud

fleet canopy Jul 21, 2019, 9:21 AM

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Oh yeah```

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It'll make us be like shr0ud```

gusty glacier Jul 21, 2019, 9:21 AM

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Shr0ud was with 1070 and i7 8700k btw

fleet canopy Jul 21, 2019, 9:22 AM

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Really? Hmm

gusty glacier Jul 21, 2019, 9:22 AM

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now he has a1080ti i believe

fleet canopy Jul 21, 2019, 9:22 AM

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Yeah he probably got the Zotac 1080 Ti

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For 440$

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:)

gusty glacier Jul 21, 2019, 9:23 AM

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He got back in cs as well i think xd

fleet canopy Jul 21, 2019, 9:24 AM

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Yeah H500 is like

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A keen bad for cooling

late sorrel Jul 21, 2019, 9:25 AM

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ood

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what will you get instead

fleet canopy Jul 21, 2019, 9:25 AM

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And it was a good case too

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Uhh

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Well

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XL ATX

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GWmythicalThonkCool

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I never saw that before

late sorrel Jul 21, 2019, 9:26 AM

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EATX

fleet canopy Jul 21, 2019, 9:26 AM

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It can go for an ATX case though

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Is a 5700i good? GWchinaSakuraThinking

late sorrel Jul 21, 2019, 9:28 AM

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I don’t think NZXT have a good cooling Solis toon

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fucks sake

fleet canopy Jul 21, 2019, 9:28 AM

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ig not

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Which one then

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Fractal Design?

late sorrel Jul 21, 2019, 9:28 AM

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I think they’re pretty good

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just be careful and read reviews

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also, don’t go InWin

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they’ve got shit cooling

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so I have to get a new case

fleet canopy Jul 21, 2019, 9:29 AM

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e_e

late sorrel Jul 21, 2019, 9:29 AM

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I mean, it’s not too bad I can make it a media server

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I’ve got a ton of english DVD/blue rays

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which don’t work in the states

fleet canopy Jul 21, 2019, 9:29 AM

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I mean

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ig it'd probably fit in my case but uhh

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I'm gonna go check the case on the web rn

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Well

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It seems to fit GPU ig

late sorrel Jul 21, 2019, 9:37 AM

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that’s good then?

fleet canopy Jul 21, 2019, 9:38 AM

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Maaaaybe

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It said it was fit for ATX PSU? But I don't think it'd be the same for the mobo

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Maybe I could go for the H500i?

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Because

cold socket Jul 21, 2019, 9:52 AM

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anyone know any good monitors for the cheep

fleet canopy Jul 21, 2019, 9:53 AM

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A cheap monitor?

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You wanna have 60Hz or 144Hz?

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And at 1080p?

cold socket Jul 21, 2019, 9:53 AM

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yea at lest 60hz and 720p or 1080p doz not matter to much so long as its 720p

fleet canopy Jul 21, 2019, 9:54 AM

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Price?

cold socket Jul 21, 2019, 9:54 AM

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i get 40$ a week so that much XD im going to habe 80 tommorow bout its NZD

fleet canopy Jul 21, 2019, 9:55 AM

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Yikes

cold socket Jul 21, 2019, 9:55 AM

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yea fun

fleet canopy Jul 21, 2019, 9:59 AM

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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00S8W8Z5E/?tag=pcpapi-20

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Here's uhh

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Something

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GWworkshopAkaShrug

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But uhh

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Hold on maybe you'd go well with a 768p or 900p

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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KWCD8D2/?tag=pcpapi-20

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Here's pretty much the almost same monitor I ues

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But good nonetheless

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Did seem better from my 768p TV

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kek

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Your PC miiiiight not go for 1080p

cold socket Jul 21, 2019, 10:03 AM

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all im looking for is a second screen so it will be fine just for reading chat and stuff like that

fleet canopy Jul 21, 2019, 10:03 AM

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Ah

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Get 900p ig

cold socket Jul 21, 2019, 10:03 AM

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my pc is a costom one with fucked insides

fleet canopy Jul 21, 2019, 10:03 AM

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Because that's basically what I use as 2nd monitor as well

cold socket Jul 21, 2019, 10:04 AM

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thanks

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rip still 116$

fleet canopy Jul 21, 2019, 10:05 AM

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oof

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Here https://www.newegg.com/aoc-e970swn-18-5-wxga/p/N82E16824160173?Item=N82E16824160173&nm_mc=AFC-RAN-COM&cm_mmc=AFC-RAN-COM&utm_medium=affiliates&utm_source=afc-PCPartPicker&AFFID=2558510&AFFNAME=PCPartPicker&ACRID=1&ASID=https%3A%2F%2Fpcpartpicker.com%2Fproduct%2Fpf3RsY%2Faoc-monitor-e970swn&ranMID=44583&ranEAID=2558510&ranSiteID=8BacdVP0GFs-P9F0ywbNdnaE9p9dBPRQnQ

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God

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What a link

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768p

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And it should be a lil cheaper on Walmart

cold socket Jul 21, 2019, 10:08 AM

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lol walmart im in a way different country, but yes its a massive $3 cheeper

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XD

fleet canopy Jul 21, 2019, 10:08 AM

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Waa

cold socket Jul 21, 2019, 10:08 AM

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no HDMI rip

fleet canopy Jul 21, 2019, 10:08 AM

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Do you have uhh

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Target?

cold socket Jul 21, 2019, 10:09 AM

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i think we do
Target Furniture Botany

fleet canopy Jul 21, 2019, 10:09 AM

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https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0067Y1VNS/?tag=pcpapi-20

cold socket Jul 21, 2019, 10:09 AM

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probaly not what your talking about tho

fleet canopy Jul 21, 2019, 10:10 AM

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Most likely no

cold socket Jul 21, 2019, 10:10 AM

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names are good anyway i can go yell at some people and find out if they have any

fleet canopy Jul 21, 2019, 10:10 AM

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:P

cold socket Jul 21, 2019, 10:14 AM

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where would one find a single core CUP???

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if anyone know's

abstract kite Jul 21, 2019, 10:18 AM

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no

late sorrel Jul 21, 2019, 10:19 AM

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wheeze go buy a raspberry pi

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wait they are dual core

abstract kite Jul 21, 2019, 10:19 AM

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👆

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even a quad core

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for the rpi4

cold socket Jul 21, 2019, 10:19 AM

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raspberry pi to exspensive

late sorrel Jul 21, 2019, 10:19 AM

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can’t wait to buy one

abstract kite Jul 21, 2019, 10:19 AM

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go buy a microcontroller

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or an arduino

late sorrel Jul 21, 2019, 10:20 AM

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They get expensive though

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and how is 35usd expensive

abstract kite Jul 21, 2019, 10:20 AM

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5€ for a chinese arduino nano

late sorrel Jul 21, 2019, 10:20 AM

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ah spicy

abstract kite Jul 21, 2019, 10:20 AM

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or even less

cold socket Jul 21, 2019, 10:21 AM

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30 usd+ is to much for me

abstract kite Jul 21, 2019, 10:21 AM

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is 2.5€ too much? :p

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btw what do you want to do

cold socket Jul 21, 2019, 10:22 AM

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24.08€+ is to much for me

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what i want is a linx comuter witch im geting soon i hope

abstract kite Jul 21, 2019, 10:22 AM

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a raspi is about 100€ with power supply, sd card and something like a camera or a poe hat

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you won't get anything cheaper

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I'm sorry

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do as I did, save money

late sorrel Jul 21, 2019, 10:23 AM

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it’s about 50$ if you want the basics of the pi & the SD card

cold socket Jul 21, 2019, 10:23 AM

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i made my pc for 1500 and its a single core with a shit grafixcard

abstract kite Jul 21, 2019, 10:23 AM

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in 6 years I managed to get a 2k€ pc

late sorrel Jul 21, 2019, 10:24 AM

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there’s really nothing you can get that’s better than the pi

abstract kite Jul 21, 2019, 10:24 AM

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*better value

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you surely can get better :p

abstract kite Jul 21, 2019, 8:24 PM

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Does anyone know if walmart price matches newegg?

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Trying to build a budget computer but I'm trying to squeeze the most performance out of each dollar

sick reef Jul 21, 2019, 8:28 PM

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Yes.

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With a few caveats

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https://help.walmart.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/31/~/walmart.coms-price-matching-policy

normal ivy Jul 21, 2019, 8:33 PM

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I recently built using amazon and I 100% recommend

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They have quite a bit of stuff on sale

gusty glacier Jul 22, 2019, 9:09 AM

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And 2 months delivery

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10/10 xd

late sorrel Jul 22, 2019, 9:28 AM

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https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1153154257119404038?s=20

normal ivy Jul 22, 2019, 2:43 PM

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Nope 2 day free prime shipping, no DOA’s 😬

urban gulch Jul 22, 2019, 6:15 PM

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Recommending amazon as personal tech and also food service

inner lily Jul 22, 2019, 8:21 PM

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welp

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just redid my room

fleet canopy Jul 22, 2019, 8:22 PM

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:P

inner lily Jul 22, 2019, 8:22 PM

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wanna see lmao

fleet canopy Jul 22, 2019, 8:22 PM

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Yeah

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In #media-and-memes ?

inner lily Jul 22, 2019, 8:24 PM

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its in there

inner lily Jul 22, 2019, 9:04 PM

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tomorrow's the day bois

inner lily Jul 22, 2019, 9:35 PM

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2080S release

fleet canopy Jul 22, 2019, 11:23 PM

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Hmm

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Nice

normal ivy Jul 22, 2019, 11:30 PM

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I love the 2080 cards

inner lily Jul 23, 2019, 1:07 AM

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i cant wait for the 2080s dood

chrome chasm Jul 23, 2019, 1:21 AM

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2080s TI

fleet canopy Jul 23, 2019, 1:22 AM

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Hmm

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2080 Tis

bronze cloak Jul 23, 2019, 3:42 AM

#

2080 Super

fleet canopy Jul 23, 2019, 3:46 AM

#

2080 Ti Super

#

Or 2080 Super Ti

#

?

abstract kite Jul 23, 2019, 7:01 AM

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1690ti

plucky tangle Jul 23, 2019, 7:12 AM

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I just upgraded from my 1080ti to the new omega 208080ti super deluxe quantom

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By AMD of course

abstract kite Jul 23, 2019, 7:31 AM

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8080ti when

nimble isle Jul 23, 2019, 7:59 AM

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@plucky tangle have you heard about the new ztx 9080 ultra and it runs games at max settings and 128k at about 1000fps

urban gulch Jul 23, 2019, 9:16 AM

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Have you heard about google stadia? No graphics card required blobshrug

hexed horizon Jul 23, 2019, 9:26 AM

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Stadia big bad

late sorrel Jul 23, 2019, 9:33 AM

#

^

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Quacking Netflix for games

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more like nEAtflix for gEAmes

hexed horizon Jul 23, 2019, 9:34 AM

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Neat-flix

abstract tulip Jul 23, 2019, 9:59 AM

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More like stadia overpriced and overcensored SmirkGuns

chrome chasm Jul 23, 2019, 10:25 AM

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Why stadia overcensored? Worse than sony?

abstract tulip Jul 23, 2019, 10:39 AM

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I mean look at youtube,

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And now this https://twitter.com/OneAngryGamerHD/status/1153486214282059777?s=19

One Angry Gamer (@OneAngryGamerHD)

Google Removes Vera Blanc Games, Bans Winter Wolves Games For “Violations” That Included Images Featuring Cleavage, Swimwear | #Censorship #IndieGame #IndieDev https://t.co/VJCYlTkxZK

Likes

139

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So i would say on the level of sony, SmirkGuns

sick reef Jul 23, 2019, 11:12 AM

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Stadia is bound to flop regardles.

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I remember the preview, you can see the input lag on the controller, and even the most casual of people who play games are going to get annoyed by that, and thus, only people who actually really need to use it will be the one's who purchase it, and it's going to be like early VR, only that this time, to have a bank of game licenses you need a lot of subscribers, and it's likely the "broad selection of games" is going to turn into "a few specific new games" very fast.

urban gulch Jul 23, 2019, 11:19 AM

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“In the preview” which was months ago, where stadia was alpha based cough

hexed horizon Jul 23, 2019, 11:25 AM

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Stadia still bad

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Its a box that connects to the internet

late sorrel Jul 23, 2019, 11:25 AM

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I’d still rather play my games offline

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like 50% of the rest of the gamer

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S

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Also, I’d rather “own” my games

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it kinda defeats the purpose of not being able to keep the game even when it gets taken off of a service

sick reef Jul 23, 2019, 11:29 AM

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Yeah, alpha stages of something that has an input delay based of the connection to their server. If you so think that that is not what will happen, and you are in the interest group, then go ahead, buy it, then prove me wrong. But you are buying a console, to pay for your games, to pay for the subscription to play those games.

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And that is not "alpha" stuff.

plucky tangle Jul 23, 2019, 11:31 AM

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@nimble isle I just cant help but chuckle about all these GPU's now. It was easy when a new set would come out every couple years. Now they are all reminding me of apple products. Same shit, different look or name, with a price hike to match.

sick reef Jul 23, 2019, 11:32 AM

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They have different qualities, and performances. But they are not extremely different, no, as earlier video game cards was to some extent.

nimble isle Jul 23, 2019, 11:34 AM

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@plucky tangle yes, but apple make expensive products without improving thay're OS quality... take that all of the apple lovers ^^

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where GPUs becoming more powerfull with new possibility (new ray tracing)

plucky tangle Jul 23, 2019, 11:35 AM

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Apple used to be so good back in my day :( ... I remember one of my first gaming computers being an apple back in the 90's

nimble isle Jul 23, 2019, 11:36 AM

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but now if u take an apple to use as a gaming computer... lol

thorny granite Jul 23, 2019, 12:09 PM

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Hey now.

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It depends on the Apple

#

Some of the Apple desktops are amazing.

sick reef Jul 23, 2019, 12:10 PM

#

It depends on the apple if you want an apple. If you want something equal or better for the same price, specifically for gaming, you get anything that isn't apple.

thorny granite Jul 23, 2019, 12:10 PM

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I however will stick with my windows gaming computer

sick reef Jul 23, 2019, 12:10 PM

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Mostly because of game support.

thorny granite Jul 23, 2019, 12:12 PM

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Yea. Mac game support is very limited

#

Some of the mac’s can run multi monitor 4K rendering with insane graphics capabilities....

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But you can only play like...12 games

#

They’re made for designers and not gamers

sick reef Jul 23, 2019, 12:35 PM

#

Well, some of the PC's can run such as well. It's merely dependent on what is actually inside of the machine more than the name or OS.

#

Which is why I did state that you can get equal or better for the same price.

pallid cedar Jul 23, 2019, 2:23 PM

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Mac's are overpriced pcs. Full stop.
Make your own for like half the cost

#

you can do all the same stuff on a pc that you can on a Mac.

#

most of the exact same programs exist for win10, and if the exact program doesn't an equivalent is available

#

Mac is not special, that's just their marketing tactic.

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and it works

inner lily Jul 23, 2019, 2:27 PM

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the triple fan variant 2080 super is already out of stock

#

):

late sorrel Jul 23, 2019, 2:30 PM

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I mean it kinda sucks

#

the only dufference is that it has faster ram

inner lily Jul 23, 2019, 2:38 PM

#

yeah im like really just thinking

#

"do i buy 1080ti off ebay.. or buy a 2080/2080super.."

#

i'd like to get a 2080super, and i have the money for it, and i'd rather get a new card than a used card just so i know there wont be any hassle with it

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but at the same time is it worth 700$ ehhh..

pallid cedar Jul 23, 2019, 3:01 PM

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I'd rather just upgrade my ROG STRIX 2060 to a super 2060

sick reef Jul 23, 2019, 3:17 PM

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Upgrading a 2060 to a 2060 super seems negligible

late sorrel Jul 23, 2019, 3:23 PM

#

^

#

I mean you’re not getting anything new

#

Maybe a couple more FPS

#

go buy a 5700XT

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now that’s an upgrade

#

at least, more of an upgrade than a 2060==>2060S

#

you can’t SLI with the 2060

sick reef Jul 23, 2019, 3:38 PM

#

The 5700XT is performance-wise worse or comparable though? Or am I out of the loop.

#

I'd upgrade other parts of my PC if I had the money as such.

#

If upgrading my PC is what I wanted.

late sorrel Jul 23, 2019, 3:39 PM

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The XT is better than the 2060S, and slightly worse than the 2070S

inner lily Jul 23, 2019, 3:42 PM

#

i really wish new 1080tis werent 1000US+

sick reef Jul 23, 2019, 3:43 PM

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Well, then it's once again marginal performance. general rule of thumb between 2060 and 2070 is 5-10% depending.

late sorrel Jul 23, 2019, 3:46 PM

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Oh, on Userbenchmark, it beats the 2070S

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well, not in multirendering

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📎 image0.png

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OC on the bottom, vanilla on the top

inner lily Jul 23, 2019, 3:50 PM

#

the gigabyte 2080S is in stock but i've been told by several people not to buy from gigabyte reee

sick reef Jul 23, 2019, 3:50 PM

#

GPU's I dunno. They're hit and miss.

inner lily Jul 23, 2019, 3:51 PM

#

like my friends tell me gigabyte's warranty and customer service are BS

late sorrel Jul 23, 2019, 3:51 PM

#

they usually are

#

I’d still buy somewhere else

inner lily Jul 23, 2019, 3:52 PM

#

i wanna get MSi's triple fan version but not in stock

#

):

sick reef Jul 23, 2019, 3:53 PM

#

Yeah, the warranty and customer service stuff are poor, compared to others.

#

Couldn't you just get any 2080S of decent caliber?

inner lily Jul 23, 2019, 3:54 PM

#

the only triple fan versions out rn are gigabyte's and msi's

late sorrel Jul 23, 2019, 3:54 PM

#

why don’t you buy a 1080Ti GWlulurdMegaLul

sick reef Jul 23, 2019, 3:54 PM

#

I'm still waiting for the 2080 Ti S if that ever comes.

late sorrel Jul 23, 2019, 3:54 PM

#

I don’t think it will

inner lily Jul 23, 2019, 3:54 PM

#

because new 1080tis are 1k+ and used ones on ebay are like 6d+ bid wars rn

sick reef Jul 23, 2019, 3:54 PM

#

Maybe, likely depending on AMD's releases.

inner lily Jul 23, 2019, 3:55 PM

#

they havent said anything about a 2080ti super so i dunno, maybe they'll pull one out of their ass but i think its unlikely

sick reef Jul 23, 2019, 3:55 PM

#

As said, if it ever.

normal ivy Jul 23, 2019, 5:00 PM

#

A 2080ti super would be too much overkill

fleet canopy Jul 23, 2019, 5:01 PM

#

Yeah

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But the people is still gonna buy it regardless

#

Because people are weird

normal ivy Jul 23, 2019, 5:01 PM

#

I’m sure they would

#

I could see why for 4K gaming to get better frames/experience but

#

With 1080 and 1440p its a useless upgrade

fleet canopy Jul 23, 2019, 5:01 PM

#

There's 8K gaming too

#

Or at least, like

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An 8K 60Hz TV was used

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For gaming

sick reef Jul 23, 2019, 5:05 PM

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It depends on your needs and wants.

#

Generally speaking, you want two rendered frames per displayed frame, as to have the most accurate representation on screen at all times.

#

And if you want that for 1440p144hz+, good luck.

#

But yeah, needs and wants.

normal ivy Jul 23, 2019, 6:26 PM

#

1440p 144hz+ with a 2080ti max settings is easy to get depending on the game

sick reef Jul 23, 2019, 6:28 PM

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Oh sure, but if you look at what I said, that wasn't the issue, now was it?

normal ivy Jul 23, 2019, 6:34 PM

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It’s useless unless you’re 4K gaming or 8k

sick reef Jul 23, 2019, 6:35 PM

#

Once again, I urge you to read it.

plucky tangle Jul 23, 2019, 6:42 PM

#

@normal ivy I can gurantee you, you will NOT be gaming in 8k (maybe 20fps) with a single 2080ti. I can also gurantee you, with 4k 144hz (maybe 60-70fps on medium) you will not be gaming very well.

2k, 144hz sure ... that's more then feasible.

normal ivy Jul 23, 2019, 6:44 PM

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Yeah that’s my point pretty much

sick reef Jul 23, 2019, 6:46 PM

#

Once again.

normal ivy Jul 23, 2019, 6:46 PM

#

I use a 2080 and can play 1440p well

sick reef Jul 23, 2019, 6:46 PM

#

If I am so to reiterate.

#

"Generally speaking, you want two rendered frames per displayed frame, as to have the most accurate representation on screen at all times."

#

Now, how much that matter is up to each individual, but if you want me to simplify it, that means you want to render two frames per the screens each frame.

#

In even more basic terms, if you have 144hz screen, you want 288 rendered frames. If you have 240Hz, 480fps, etc.

chrome chasm Jul 23, 2019, 10:10 PM

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But I get screen tearing if my hz is lower then my FPS

normal ivy Jul 23, 2019, 10:12 PM

#

You need g sync

late sorrel Jul 23, 2019, 10:19 PM

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You really don’t

#

Freesync will do the job considering the fact that Nvidia have allowed all 10-series GPUs to use it

#

The 2% may be worth it to some though

normal ivy Jul 23, 2019, 10:42 PM

#

Either or

late sorrel Jul 23, 2019, 10:59 PM

#

Ones much cheaper

#

so, yeah, freestnc

abstract kite Jul 24, 2019, 12:04 AM

#

is it worth it to pair a 144hz monitor with 1440p on current gen games?

chrome chasm Jul 24, 2019, 12:06 AM

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Yes

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I find 1440p perfect, much less taxing on performance and I barely find much difference between 1440p vs 2160p compared to the huge jump from 1080p to 1440p

normal ivy Jul 24, 2019, 12:10 AM

#

Mirror Take note for PC building not everyone goes for cost effectiveness

inner lily Jul 24, 2019, 12:44 AM

#

ive never once gamed in 1440p, is it that much of a difference?

normal ivy Jul 24, 2019, 1:01 AM

#

I’ve heard it both ways

fleet canopy Jul 24, 2019, 1:08 AM

#

I mean if your GPU is meh

#

Then it wouldn't be good ig?

#

It'd be nice having both, so I'm sure it's worth going 1440p 144hz than any higher

plucky tangle Jul 24, 2019, 1:49 AM

#

Just make sure if you run multiple monitors.. monitor your gpu idle temps. If one monitor is 144hz and one is 60hz chances are they will not work well together. Refresh rates typically need to be able to divide by one another to work properly. Sometimes you will just get screen tearing on one monitor, sometimes it just makes your GPU run hot on idle. Sometimes it makes one monitor unusable. And sometimes nothing happens. But the easiest fix is to just change the 144hz monitor to 120hz and problem solved. Or buy a 240hz monitor.

inner lily Jul 24, 2019, 2:29 AM

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oh btw

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📎 unknown.png

fleet canopy Jul 24, 2019, 2:30 AM

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Oof

#

It'd be pretty overkill though

inner lily Jul 24, 2019, 2:30 AM

#

theres this one comment tho

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📎 unknown.png

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xD

fleet canopy Jul 24, 2019, 2:30 AM

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Hmm

#

It'd probably not be called a 2080 Ti Super though

inner lily Jul 24, 2019, 2:31 AM

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2090 TI!!!!!

fleet canopy Jul 24, 2019, 2:31 AM

#

Or just some GPU in between

inner lily Jul 24, 2019, 2:31 AM

#

xd

fleet canopy Jul 24, 2019, 2:31 AM

#

2080.1 Ti Super

#

It's technically correct

#

Since he did say there'd be no 2080 Ti Super

inner lily Jul 24, 2019, 2:32 AM

#

pffff

#

DogKek

fleet canopy Jul 24, 2019, 2:33 AM

#

GWyogurtKek

plucky tangle Jul 24, 2019, 10:22 AM

#

https://youtu.be/ErQQc6cUSTA

#

This is awsome ... ----^

full marlin Jul 24, 2019, 1:31 PM

#

what y'all think the next gen of nvidia gpus are gonna be called

inner lily Jul 24, 2019, 4:12 PM

#

30 series

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3050, 3050ti, 3060, 3070, 3080, 3080ti

abstract kite Jul 24, 2019, 7:25 PM

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2050 hyper, 2060 hyper, 2070 hyper

plucky tangle Jul 25, 2019, 3:18 AM

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Omega quantom delux 9000

fleet canopy Jul 25, 2019, 3:19 AM

#

It'll probably be

#

11xx

#

What we really asked for

#

11xx

plucky tangle Jul 25, 2019, 3:20 AM

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I have no clue why they jumped from 10-20

#

Did they ever say why?

fleet canopy Jul 25, 2019, 3:20 AM

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Eh

#

idk

hexed horizon Jul 25, 2019, 4:41 AM

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What is going om

bronze cloak Jul 25, 2019, 5:20 AM

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it can't be 11xx, we're already on 16xx

fleet canopy Jul 25, 2019, 5:20 AM

#

I know

#

But

#

Why'd it have to be 20xx

#

Instead 11xx

#

Maybe

#

It'll be 26xx?

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Or 21xx

inner lily Jul 25, 2019, 5:24 AM

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idk

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maybe marketing

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2080 has a better marketing ring than 1180

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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ugh so

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apparently the 2080S i wanted to buy wont be available till aug 16th

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):

fleet canopy Jul 25, 2019, 5:38 AM

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Aw

inner lily Jul 25, 2019, 5:38 AM

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yeah

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):

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and all the other ones (except blower cooler designs!) are out of stock on newegg

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im tempted to yknow.. just wait. it seems that msi's gaming x trios are honestly pretty good overal, but the waiting the addition like 3 weeks is gonna suck xD

plucky tangle Jul 25, 2019, 7:17 AM

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@inner lily I've always been a zotac fanboy. I have had nothing but good experiences with their products, and they are always the fastest OC'ed product out the box. And they have like a 5yr replacement warranty .... kinda hard to beat.

north bronze Jul 25, 2019, 9:26 AM

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Apparently the stock 5700XT thermals suck

late sorrel Jul 25, 2019, 11:47 AM

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No way

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I’ve not heard that at all

north bronze Jul 25, 2019, 11:57 AM

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I hope MSI's version will be better

fiery nacelle Jul 25, 2019, 12:04 PM

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Sapphire!!!

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The biggest graphics card makers aren't the traditional 3 board makers anyway

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It's probably some combination of chinese makers and PC Partner

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PC Partner owning Zotac (Nvidia exclusive) and working with Sapphire (AMD's big OEM partner)

north bronze Jul 25, 2019, 12:57 PM

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@fiery nacelle Sapphire currently sells the same stock 5700 XT, are they gonna make a better one?

fiery nacelle Jul 25, 2019, 12:59 PM

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yeah hope so

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also hope AMD can resolve the numerous driver issues with the Navi cards

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they should though

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I mean Sapphire making their Toxic and Vapor-X versions of the Navi cards

north bronze Jul 25, 2019, 1:01 PM

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nice

gusty glacier Jul 25, 2019, 2:37 PM

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Lets go 16k 120fps gaming

late sorrel Jul 25, 2019, 2:37 PM

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that's wrong though

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16k and 120fps would be shit

gusty glacier Jul 25, 2019, 2:38 PM

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Thats the future xd

late sorrel Jul 25, 2019, 2:38 PM

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8k and 240fps, sounds more even

gusty glacier Jul 25, 2019, 2:38 PM

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I will be playing 2k max

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no more

late sorrel Jul 25, 2019, 2:38 PM

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120 fps with 16 thousand pixels?

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kinda stupid ngl

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I think frames will go up, and resolution will stick at about 4k for a while

gusty glacier Jul 25, 2019, 2:39 PM

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Crysis is the target game

abstract kite Jul 25, 2019, 3:00 PM

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16k 60Hz require as much bandwidth than 8k 240Hz

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and 8k 60Hz as much as 4k 240Hz

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and 4k 60Hz as much as 1080p 240Hz

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so 16k 120Hz would require as much bandwidth as 1080p 7680Hz

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like 👀

fiery nacelle Jul 25, 2019, 3:05 PM

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everyone and their friends know that the sweet spot is

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16k 240Hz

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LOL

sick reef Jul 25, 2019, 3:09 PM

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The sweetspot for gaming really is 800x600 155Hz

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😔

fleet canopy Jul 25, 2019, 3:10 PM

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Sweet spot is 640x480 300Hz

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Don't ask about the Hz

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It just works

normal ivy Jul 25, 2019, 3:57 PM

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It’s crazy how crysis still holds up in graphics today

sick reef Jul 25, 2019, 4:01 PM

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It's less crazy when it's due to just throwing any graphical effect they can into the game, and seeing what sticks.

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Hence the optimisation.

normal ivy Jul 25, 2019, 4:19 PM

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Even for a 2013 game to hold up with games today regardless

inner lily Jul 25, 2019, 9:04 PM

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Building my friends new pc

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And uh

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#media-and-memes

inner lily Jul 25, 2019, 10:11 PM

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This case is making me upset

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They only gave us 2 risers

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Yikes

fleet canopy Jul 25, 2019, 10:21 PM

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Yikes

plucky tangle Jul 25, 2019, 10:22 PM

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@late sorrel how is 8k even the future, when we can hardly do 2k and 4k justice atm. Literally 2k and 4k is still the future at this point in the game.

fleet canopy Jul 25, 2019, 10:22 PM

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Eventually

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We'll need 16K

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Because 8K won't be enough

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Yeet

plucky tangle Jul 25, 2019, 10:22 PM

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Sure when 4k is as common as blue ray and dvd

chrome chasm Jul 25, 2019, 10:23 PM

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Hey wazzup

fleet canopy Jul 25, 2019, 10:23 PM

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And when there's GPUs that's way overkill for games

chrome chasm Jul 25, 2019, 10:23 PM

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I just got back from the future

fleet canopy Jul 25, 2019, 10:23 PM

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Even with the most demanding of ones

plucky tangle Jul 25, 2019, 10:23 PM

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Yup

chrome chasm Jul 25, 2019, 10:23 PM

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and 32k is a joke lol

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soo outdated

fleet canopy Jul 25, 2019, 10:23 PM

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On 128K?

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If you want performance, but cheaper price, AMD

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kek

plucky tangle Jul 25, 2019, 10:24 PM

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Dont we just call that RLHD, Real Life High Definition.

chrome chasm Jul 25, 2019, 10:24 PM

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Mid range PC should be plenty to run GTFO on ultra

fleet canopy Jul 25, 2019, 10:24 PM

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Real Life never really looked better than 2K lmao

chrome chasm Jul 25, 2019, 10:24 PM

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@pine hawk

fleet canopy Jul 25, 2019, 10:24 PM

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Yeah

chrome chasm Jul 25, 2019, 10:25 PM

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I would recommend going AMD as they give the most for your bang at what you are looking to play GTFO

fleet canopy Jul 25, 2019, 10:25 PM

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Yeah

late sorrel Jul 25, 2019, 10:27 PM

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no way

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can we add TooooooooBad to the list of tech savvy people

inner lily Jul 25, 2019, 10:27 PM

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The motherboard is giving us hassles

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Its interfering with the bumps in the case

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Making us unable to align up screw bits

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We figured it out

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The io. shield was interfering with the little bumps on the case

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Making us unable to mount it

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10/10 Gigabyte

fleet canopy Jul 25, 2019, 10:37 PM

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GWdnzMonikaSmile

late sorrel Jul 25, 2019, 10:38 PM

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And that's why you don't buy gigabyte

inner lily Jul 25, 2019, 10:38 PM

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That's what IM sayin

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📎 JPEG_20190725_183903.jpg

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The part in question

plucky tangle Jul 25, 2019, 10:39 PM

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I've only used Asus and gigabyte so far.

inner lily Jul 25, 2019, 10:40 PM

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Msi and asus here

chrome chasm Jul 25, 2019, 10:53 PM

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im still going 2080ti cuz fu price. I WANT POWER

fleet canopy Jul 25, 2019, 11:02 PM

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That's pretty good

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I mean I think you can get something at that price for better performance?

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I'm not sure

inner lily Jul 25, 2019, 11:55 PM

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📎 JPEG_20190725_195449.jpg

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My friends monitor

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1360x768 lol

fleet canopy Jul 25, 2019, 11:55 PM

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My TV

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1360x768

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It's not that bad

hexed horizon Jul 26, 2019, 4:37 AM

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I play on 1440x900

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Most of these monitors are below 20 inch, that can annoy some people, but I'm personally fine

abstract kite Jul 26, 2019, 7:51 AM

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from the web dev I work with I know that 1366x768 is the most used resolution, more than 1080p

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not 1360x768 tho

hexed horizon Jul 26, 2019, 7:55 AM

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6 more pixels

cold socket Jul 26, 2019, 10:45 AM

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https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/18744489

is this good ???

sick reef Jul 26, 2019, 10:46 AM

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Do you have temperature problems, Support?

cold socket Jul 26, 2019, 10:47 AM

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not that i know of

sick reef Jul 26, 2019, 10:47 AM

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Your CPU, GPU, and Drive is performing very poorly. Either it's temperature being very high, your motherboard being mediocre, or them individually being bad which is more unlikely.

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What temperature does your computer run at?

cold socket Jul 26, 2019, 10:47 AM

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idk

sick reef Jul 26, 2019, 10:48 AM

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You could check with HWMonitor.

cold socket Jul 26, 2019, 10:50 AM

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58-62

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C

sick reef Jul 26, 2019, 10:51 AM

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And this is when you're not having any programs active or doing anything?

cold socket Jul 26, 2019, 10:51 AM

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i have 4 active

sick reef Jul 26, 2019, 10:52 AM

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Well, demanding programs then? Something that really revs your computer up

cold socket Jul 26, 2019, 10:52 AM

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35% cpu

sick reef Jul 26, 2019, 10:53 AM

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What big programs do you have running in the background?

cold socket Jul 26, 2019, 10:54 AM

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discored, brave, the cycle

sick reef Jul 26, 2019, 10:54 AM

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I don't think those programs should be that demanding.

cold socket Jul 26, 2019, 10:55 AM

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%60 when in game

sick reef Jul 26, 2019, 10:55 AM

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Did you do the test while you were in the game?

cold socket Jul 26, 2019, 10:55 AM

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yes

sick reef Jul 26, 2019, 10:56 AM

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It's best to do the test if you don't have games running, otherwise the result will be impacted.

cold socket Jul 26, 2019, 10:56 AM

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maybe

sick reef Jul 26, 2019, 10:56 AM

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You get a lower score because those parts that get a low score is being used by the game.

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That is why you have 3 really low, and the rest average to high.

cold socket Jul 26, 2019, 10:57 AM

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alright

sick reef Jul 26, 2019, 10:58 AM

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If you want a more correct result, do the test when you're done with the game. Close most other applications too.

cold socket Jul 26, 2019, 11:03 AM

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https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/18744827

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better???

sick reef Jul 26, 2019, 11:03 AM

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Yes, absolutely.

cold socket Jul 26, 2019, 11:05 AM

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idk what im even looking at XD

sick reef Jul 26, 2019, 11:11 AM

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You look at performance comparatively to other's.

abstract kite Jul 26, 2019, 12:40 PM

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*to others with the same hardware

fiery nacelle Jul 26, 2019, 1:30 PM

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Does a Giga Bite?

late sorrel Jul 26, 2019, 1:39 PM

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No, but a mega can

fiery nacelle Jul 26, 2019, 1:55 PM

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In 10 years Gigabyte will have to rebrand to Petabyte

late sorrel Jul 26, 2019, 2:15 PM

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yes

north bronze Jul 26, 2019, 8:33 PM

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Heeey so Steam is currently downloading at around 4mb, when I normally reach 48mb/s

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Is there a couple of settings on my network adapter or steam that I can turn on

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so that it doesn't cap itself for no reason?

fleet canopy Jul 26, 2019, 8:33 PM

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Well

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There's like a setting to put your download speed to unlimited

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Unless you like 25 MB ps o-o

north bronze Jul 26, 2019, 8:34 PM

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📎 unknown.png

fleet canopy Jul 26, 2019, 8:34 PM

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GWmythicalThonkCool

north bronze Jul 26, 2019, 8:36 PM

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anything else I can do? i'm sad

sick reef Jul 26, 2019, 8:36 PM

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Check your proxy.

north bronze Jul 26, 2019, 8:36 PM

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how do 👀

sick reef Jul 26, 2019, 8:36 PM

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Don't know. It is if bandwith is limited on your Router.

north bronze Jul 26, 2019, 8:37 PM

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Nah shouldn't be

sick reef Jul 26, 2019, 8:37 PM

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So your internet is supposed to be so slow?

north bronze Jul 26, 2019, 8:37 PM

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I hit 20-50mb/s yesterday

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that's my average

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4-5 mb/s is odd

sick reef Jul 26, 2019, 8:37 PM

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And you have tested your internet?

north bronze Jul 26, 2019, 8:39 PM

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hmmm currently doing it

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speed sucks for some reason

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compared to my previous tests

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reeeeee

sick reef Jul 26, 2019, 8:40 PM

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Maybe your line is occupied if you're using ADSL, or your ISP is fucking with you.

north bronze Jul 26, 2019, 8:40 PM

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fibre

sick reef Jul 26, 2019, 8:41 PM

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I guess, same but not as heavily impacted.

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Could just be your ISP.

north bronze Jul 26, 2019, 8:42 PM

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I'm gonna try to see if I can separate 2GHz and 5GHz into two networks with the router

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I used to do that back in the UK, worked well

sick reef Jul 26, 2019, 8:43 PM

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Depends on the router. So it's that the node is full?

north bronze Jul 26, 2019, 8:43 PM

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Perhaps

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Yesterday, I switched my adapter to "Prefer 5GHz" and it got a huge boost immediately, for some reason I feel like it's still prioritizing the 2GHz

sick reef Jul 26, 2019, 8:45 PM

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You could just manually set that stuff, right? And it shouldn't be that bad.

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Or so did your adapter connect to the wrong one.

north bronze Jul 26, 2019, 8:46 PM

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Adapter most likely connects to the wrong one

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I wonder, if I force it to 802.11a only, it won't be able to connect to the 2.4GHz right?

sick reef Jul 26, 2019, 8:46 PM

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The adapter?

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Maybe, if it's not backwards compatible in some way.

north bronze Jul 26, 2019, 8:53 PM

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Yup

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That worked

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📎 unknown.png

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kinda

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it dropped to 6mb

late sorrel Jul 26, 2019, 8:53 PM

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that could be reliant on your disk speed

north bronze Jul 26, 2019, 8:53 PM

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well it peaked a lot more but yeah I'll blame the disk for that drop 👀

late sorrel Jul 26, 2019, 8:53 PM

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I have a much higher MBPS than I get on that

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on steam

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so, it’s probably your disk

north bronze Jul 26, 2019, 8:55 PM

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yep

📎 unknown.png

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well at least it forced it to 5GHz so it's not staying at 2mb/s

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perfect

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decided to test with another game, yeah defo the disk

📎 unknown.png

acoustic timber Jul 27, 2019, 2:29 AM

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its a hell of a deal

fiery nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 2:49 AM

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oh heck that is cheap

chrome chasm Jul 27, 2019, 2:52 AM

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Already more powerful then future-gen console for only a few buck more XD

fiery nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 2:55 AM

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not sure about that though

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future consoles supposedly come packing with 8 core zen 2 cpus and a large Navi gpu with super fast ssd

chrome chasm Jul 27, 2019, 2:57 AM

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''supposedly''

acoustic timber Jul 27, 2019, 2:57 AM

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regardless, its the price of the 8700 and 2070 alone, and its the full tower. hell, of, a, deal.

chrome chasm Jul 27, 2019, 2:58 AM

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Agreed

fiery nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 3:00 AM

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it's dirt cheap

acoustic timber Jul 27, 2019, 3:00 AM

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im going to best buy tmrw and seeing if theyll price match it, which they should.

fiery nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 3:00 AM

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comes with mouse and keyboard too

acoustic timber Jul 27, 2019, 3:00 AM

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been waiting for a deal like this for the last 6 months

fiery nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 3:00 AM

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best buy sells desktop systems too?

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I thought there were horror stories on youtube on their systems?

chrome chasm Jul 27, 2019, 3:01 AM

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But is this site safe?

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Looking at the web I don't see good stuff

fiery nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 3:01 AM

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or was it Walmart

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hmmm, maybe contact ibuypower directly?

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oh no just saw - it is more expensive

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so how did that website manage to sell for so cheap I wonder?

acoustic timber Jul 27, 2019, 3:03 AM

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i dont know, but im just using it as a price match

fiery nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 3:05 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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From iBuyPower direct website

acoustic timber Jul 27, 2019, 3:06 AM

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yea, i just put a disclaimer on the link to not buy from thenm

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the BBB has them listed as bunk AF

fiery nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 3:07 AM

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There has to be the fine print on price matching right?

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i.e. "major retailers only" or sorts

acoustic timber Jul 27, 2019, 3:07 AM

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if nothing else, itll help get a lower price. its a sales game.

fiery nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 3:07 AM

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true

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ever considered building your own?

acoustic timber Jul 27, 2019, 3:08 AM

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thats all ive done

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my newegg cart is 1374

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the pc is 1299 at best buy

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literally same stuff

fiery nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 3:08 AM

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brand and model of components too?

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I mean, even PSU, etc

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oh wait, you are buying the individual components from best buy

acoustic timber Jul 27, 2019, 3:09 AM

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no

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its teh same pc i linked

fiery nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 3:09 AM

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oh I see

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they sell the same whole system at newegg too right?

acoustic timber Jul 27, 2019, 3:10 AM

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yea

fiery nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 3:10 AM

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(as long as it is the same brand ibuypower)

acoustic timber Jul 27, 2019, 3:10 AM

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its the same sku

fiery nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 3:10 AM

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oh nice

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then better Best Buy, unless Newegg has for some reason included free delivery or extended warranties or stuff like that

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too bad they don't typically sell high end mini-ITX prebuilt systems

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those are really nice

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compact

acoustic timber Jul 27, 2019, 3:12 AM

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i just keep lookin around at stuff. im sure if i bought stuff over a month or 2....catch the deals...i could get it cheaper piece by piece

fiery nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 3:12 AM

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if you want cheaper graphics, probs wait for AMD board partners to issue their own version of the RX 5700XT

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(also wait for AMD to fix their damned drivers)

acoustic timber Jul 27, 2019, 3:12 AM

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negative

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i dont touch amd

fiery nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 3:12 AM

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that bad?

acoustic timber Jul 27, 2019, 3:12 AM

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Another Mound of Dirt

inner lily Jul 27, 2019, 3:12 AM

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thats actually not a bad deal right there

acoustic timber Jul 27, 2019, 3:12 AM

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😉

fiery nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 3:13 AM

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@inner lily we suspect its suspicious

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that website

inner lily Jul 27, 2019, 3:13 AM

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yeah

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it sure seems like it

acoustic timber Jul 27, 2019, 3:13 AM

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it is

fiery nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 3:13 AM

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kind of really too cheap

acoustic timber Jul 27, 2019, 3:13 AM

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theres no question. lol

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its literally a scam

inner lily Jul 27, 2019, 3:13 AM

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2070 non super is almost the price of that entire pc

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lmao

fiery nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 3:13 AM

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There was this RTX 2080 Ti + i7-8700 + 1TB SSD system on sale for less than USD 1,400

acoustic timber Jul 27, 2019, 3:14 AM

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yea, i got a 2060 super, but everything else is mainly the same, in my newegg cart. 1374

fiery nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 3:14 AM

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I mean the MSRP for the RTX 2080Ti alone is probably USD 1k+

acoustic timber Jul 27, 2019, 3:14 AM

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bestbuys got it with a 2070 for 1299

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ibuypower*

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so i mean...

fiery nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 3:14 AM

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2060 super is close to 2070

acoustic timber Jul 27, 2019, 3:14 AM

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its teh same thing at this point

inner lily Jul 27, 2019, 3:14 AM

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"I ordered a computer on May , 2019. The delivery date was
6//2019. I have not gotten a tracking number. When I send an
email asking about my order, all I get is a response that gives me
a new password. I didn't ask for a new password,I asked for an
update on my order. This happened 3 times. Now I see there
have been many complaints. I only have an email address."

acoustic timber Jul 27, 2019, 3:14 AM

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it replaced the 2070

fiery nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 3:14 AM

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RX 5700XT is better value for money and comes with RIS

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haha

void perch Jul 27, 2019, 3:14 AM

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don't risk losing $900 by trying to save a few hundred. that site looks sketchy as hell

fiery nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 3:15 AM

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yeah

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really sketchy

acoustic timber Jul 27, 2019, 3:15 AM

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like, i say that twice in my post

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so...

inner lily Jul 27, 2019, 3:15 AM

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yeah its a scam site

acoustic timber Jul 27, 2019, 3:15 AM

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were arguing peanuts right now lol

inner lily Jul 27, 2019, 3:15 AM

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on BBB people are saying its scam, some dude lost 1k

fiery nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 3:15 AM

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conclusion is do not get scammed: buy AMD

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LOL

acoustic timber Jul 27, 2019, 3:15 AM

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nah

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ive rocked a 2700 since release

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best chip ive ever had

fiery nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 3:15 AM

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@inner lily oh man that's sad - 1k is a lot

acoustic timber Jul 27, 2019, 3:15 AM

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i7 for life

fiery nacelle Jul 27, 2019, 3:15 AM

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hey why not keep that 2700

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just upgrade the GPU