#pc-build-help-and-tech-talk

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chrome chasm
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Price will drop. And I don't need a 2080ti or whetever going to be the next best one before cyberpunk 2077 release.

plucky tangle
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I should probably sell my 1080ti seeing how they are still selling for 800$ on ebay

chrome chasm
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Still playing on a power hungry 980Ti

fleet canopy
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They're selling refurbished Zotac for 440$

chrome chasm
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But hey, it run Witcher 3 60 fps 1440p

plucky tangle
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I have my 980ti as a backup lol

fleet canopy
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Heh

plucky tangle
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2k and 4k are way over rated still imo. I'll stick with my 144hz 1080p

fleet canopy
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I'm here with a 1440p 60Hz and a 1060

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And I kind of

chrome chasm
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There a huge diff in 2k and 1080p too. Can't play anymore on 1080p

fleet canopy
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Feel like it wasn't much from 900p

plucky tangle
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I was also very lucky that my dual monitor setup is running well. Considering my other 2 monitors are 60hz

chrome chasm
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2k and 4k.. barely any visible meaningful change

plucky tangle
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I never ran into the dreaded high utilage of GPU power because of the different in refresh rates.

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But I've owned a 4k, 60hz monitor. 1080p 144hz just looks way better imo. But I play alot of fps games

chrome chasm
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If you play fps, you need those 144hz

fleet canopy
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Of course

plucky tangle
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And alot depends on the size too. I sit super close to my monitors. So 24in is the sweet spot for me.

chrome chasm
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Or 25xhz if you crazy pro esport ... XD

fleet canopy
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I never have experienced 144hz

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kek

plucky tangle
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If you talk to people who have used both. Most agree that 144hz > 2140p

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And they are generally cheaper

fleet canopy
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True

plucky tangle
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And requires less of a beast to run

fleet canopy
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I honestly should have gone for 1080p 144hz lol

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Instead 2K

plucky tangle
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You want 2k or 4k gaming and have it look good, you need a beast of a computer

fleet canopy
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Yeah

chrome chasm
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Depend on the game. I would obviously play PUBG or whatever FPS on the 144hz. But other kind, I enjoy the shiny eye candy 😉

fleet canopy
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I'm only playing it with medium graphics

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Fokin

plucky tangle
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I'd rather run on ultra 100+ fps then 4k 50-60fps

fleet canopy
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Medium

plucky tangle
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Yeah see.... buuut medium still looks good at 4k

fleet canopy
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Lol

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tbh I don't know

plucky tangle
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Unlike on 1080p

fleet canopy
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It's probably lower

plucky tangle
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2k and 4k is just gimmicky right now with gaming monitors unless you are shelling out 700$+

fleet canopy
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I kind of hate to say that 1440p looks a little teeny difference from 900p

chrome chasm
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brb, got a Whoreson junior to dealt with.

fleet canopy
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And that's like

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Weird

plucky tangle
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But it's all preference

fleet canopy
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Why can't I find a 22" 1080p 144hz monitor GWahreeGrarr

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This is a total scam

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:C

plucky tangle
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I mean, you can get a good 1080p 144hz monitor for like 200-300$

fleet canopy
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Eh

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They're mainly 200$

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300$ is dumb

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Even 2K 60Hz is same price and at this point

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144hz brings 2K to 300$

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Or more

plucky tangle
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Those are some cheap screens then

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I'm partial to IPS displays .... so I shall out more

dusty pumice
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Depends if its 1ms - 2ms or more

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1ms 144hz the best

plucky tangle
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There is literally zero difference from 1ms to 2ms

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If you say you notice a difference .... that is a liar

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5ms + maybe

fleet canopy
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I mean

dusty pumice
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Theres stil a difference in price

fleet canopy
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1ms still is 200$

dusty pumice
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so theres room for discussion there

fleet canopy
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So it's not really a problem

plucky tangle
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And again. It comes down to the individual. If you are a pro gaming fps player ..... maaaaybe

dusty pumice
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I only have 240hz or 144hz monitors on 240hz you can tell the difference

plucky tangle
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But the average person, I'd rather drop more money into a better display then worry about 1 or 2ms

dusty pumice
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But almost all 240hz are 1ms

plucky tangle
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Oh yeah huge difference from 60>120>144>240

fleet canopy
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Can you at least explain what the ms is? >.>

plucky tangle
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Millisecond

dusty pumice
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Well theres stil people telling everyone and their mothers they dont see a difference above 60hz

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so yeah

fleet canopy
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How does it benefit in anything though?

plucky tangle
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I see a drastic difference from 60 > 144 .... but above that I'm like .... ehhhhh

dusty pumice
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But the avg consumer is stil on 5ms i believe

fleet canopy
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Like what is it's purpose

plucky tangle
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Screen tearing

fleet canopy
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I se

plucky tangle
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Honestly just Google it. It would explain it far easier. But really quick. Has to do with moving images on the screen and how fast it can process it.

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Fps players "like" having a lower MS monitor for that reason

dusty pumice
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Same goes for ram people dont know theres actually a difference in FPS between 2133 and 3600

plucky tangle
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Well that's something else entirely. Now that would depends on motherboard, GPU, CPU....

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My combination has the sweet spot at 2400

dusty pumice
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I mean it does and it doesnt

plucky tangle
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It just depends if things are being bottlenecked.... sometimes just upping ram makes that GPU and CPU work far better. But typically yes, faster ram doesn help.

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I'm sure I would notice a few fps difference going to 3200, but it isnt worth the $$

dusty pumice
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RAM is actually pretty cheap now for me

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Atleast in my country

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I think DDR4 will go down in price when DDR5 comes around

fleet canopy
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Ram is cheap af

dusty pumice
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think that will cause a pretty good price drop

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RAM aint cheap as fuck

plucky tangle
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US here, and it's cheap as well. I just mean, i have 32gigs of 2400mhz atm. So my only benefit would be a better timeing ram or speed

fleet canopy
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Ususally less than 100$ for a 16GB at 3200

dusty pumice
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Not for the higher quality products

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It was fucking dirt cheap before we hit 2010

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I believe somewhere around 2008 - 2012 price went up alot

plucky tangle
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You can get 32gigs of 3200mhz for like 180$ still right?

fleet canopy
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ig so

dusty pumice
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Yeah i think thats a reasonable price to get it at

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But idk about the dollar numbers im in a european country so

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different prices here

plucky tangle
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But yes, memory used to be dirt cheap. If we went by prices from 15 years ago .... for 32 gigs of ram at 3200, it would cost like 80$

dusty pumice
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Yup

plucky tangle
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Or 60 euro lol

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Something like that

dusty pumice
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I have a huge stack of DDR2 and DDR3

plucky tangle
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I have alot too probably. I have like 3 old PC's from years back just collecting dust.

dusty pumice
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I think i have one or two boxes full of ram lmfao

plucky tangle
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Jesus

inner lily
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when ur minecraft modpack has 12gb allocated but still manages to use it all

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Time to buy 16 more gb of ram

gusty glacier
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Yall are still here? damn

inner lily
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just got off work

gusty glacier
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i will go to work in few mins as well

inner lily
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ah what do you do if you dont mind me asking

gusty glacier
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Currently? I carry heavy stuff , make those plastic bags you use everyday and everything available

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Its just for the summer

inner lily
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oh

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i just clean a bar

gusty glacier
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How many hours do you work

inner lily
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barely any

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i work like.. 14-28 hrs a week

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get paid ~170 at the end of the week

fleet canopy
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Herculez 980 Ti X4

gusty glacier
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Herculez ? Tf xd

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I will get 1080ti Harambe lol

gusty glacier
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2070 super has 5 fps less than the 2080

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1080TI WINS

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xd

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RTX - Real time xtreme disappointment

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And there wont be 2070

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only 2070 super

late sorrel
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what?

gusty glacier
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just saw this from trustful source

late sorrel
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Yes, there will be a 2070 super

gusty glacier
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and the 2060 super has 5-10 less fps from 2070 super

late sorrel
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yes

gusty glacier
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Im still sticking with 1080ti lmao

late sorrel
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yeah I agreed with you

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you just have a shit CPU

gusty glacier
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Now its time to see the 2080 super though

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i will update it

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8700k

late sorrel
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oh wait

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huh, someone else said something about a athelon and a 1080

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and that was a big oof

gusty glacier
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BoTtleNeck

late sorrel
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yuppers

gusty glacier
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bigger than mine haha 😄

late sorrel
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an 8700k is good

gusty glacier
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Yep

late sorrel
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that’s not a bottlekneck

gusty glacier
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i chose 8700k cuz it has hyperthreading .

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9700k is just . .. negative reviews

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Also in some videos

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i saw that the 1080ti gets same or higher fps in 4k

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compared with 2080ti

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in 2k for some reason 1080ti has lower

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New NVIDIA drivers !!!

gusty glacier
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It seems like PUBG got beaten xd

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Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML360R good for the 8700k ?

late sorrel
hexed horizon
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+30 you mean?

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70+30=100 🤔

late sorrel
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no

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because then I’d be 5710

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And that’s better than 5700

hexed horizon
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What

late sorrel
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math is hard

hexed horizon
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Brüh

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70+40 is 110

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@late sorrel 😤

late sorrel
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no

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yes

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That’s my point

hexed horizon
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Oh

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Ok

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I get it

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But

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Not really

late sorrel
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frick

gusty glacier
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Im getting Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML360R

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FOr sure lol xd

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I will need a new case

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Cooler Master again..

fleet canopy
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lel

dense wasp
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I've used Fractal design the past... 5 years or so

late sorrel
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I need to sort out cooling for an 3600x

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well, within a month from now

storm axle
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fractal cases are very well made, a joy to work in, as someone that builds pcs for others quite often as well as for myself

sick reef
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Eh, just Modify an old Proliant.

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It'll do

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You can most likely get it for free from some bin

plucky tangle
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I've always used air cooling. Granted I get a damn good fan for my cpu, but I notice only negligible benefits to liquid cooling. Less risk, and I'm still able to overclock the way I want. Liquid cooling is more for aesthetics imo

sick reef
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No? thonking

fleet canopy
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Hmm

sick reef
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You're fully fine to go with Air, but water will almost always perform better. If you need it, or want it, that's up to you.

plucky tangle
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It doesnt always perform better. @sick reef look up alot of tests between liquid cooling and air cooling. Look at the noctua for example. Linus even did tests between this and a 100$+ liquid cooling line. The air cooling did better.

People forget that your ambient temperature of the room heats up that water. The problem is it's in a closed loop. Where just air can circulate.

It all ends up being a horse a piece though. Because if you have proper ventilation. Your pc should never overheat unless you are doing crazy overclocks.

For me though, I've had nothing but good times, just by using air cooling. I dont need to spend nearly double the price just for aesthetics really.

sick reef
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As said.
You're fully fine to go with Air, but water will almost always perform better. If you need it, or want it, that's up to you.

late sorrel
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not always

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there’s a good many air coolers that do better than aios sometimes

dense wasp
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even though being but-ugly and huge. the Noctua NH-D15 performs at the same level as an AIO in most cases.

plucky tangle
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People just assume that "water cooling" is the best. And it simply isnt. If you have a tight ass case, with little to no ventilation then water cooling is better. But if you have a nice full size or mid tower case, air cooling with a noctua or equivalent will perform just as good and sometimes better for half the price. But like @dense wasp said, the air cooler is huge, and ugly. But if you are someone like me who leaves their computer on the floor or away from being seen, Idgaf lol.

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Also............

So, one of my monitors just went kaput. So, I figure I might as well upgrade my main. I'm looking for a monitor under 300$. I prefer refresh rate over resolution unless there is a great deal. But I never saw the need to have a 4k or 2k monitor when 144hz+ just looks better imo.

Anyway any suggestions are appreciated.

late sorrel
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What GPU do you have?

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If it’s a Nvidia 10 series or newer I have a good freesync one

dense wasp
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Samsung 27" LED C27JG50 at home for now

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It's neat

plucky tangle
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1080ti @late sorrel

urban gulch
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lol i got Samsumg 24" S24F350

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🤔

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rtx 2080 ti

plucky tangle
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I "had" a 144hz monitor but I had to run it at 120hz or else it would make my idle temps skyrocket

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Have two other 60hz monitors which is why

late sorrel
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brilliant

urban gulch
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same x3

plucky tangle
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I do freelance graphic design, so the other 2 monitors are Dell ultra sharp ..... notnthe greatest for gaming. But they were worth every penny. But my gaming monitor is the one that died.

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Nothing like turning it on, hearing a bzzzt sound and nothing. Immediately unplugged that sucker.

late sorrel
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I’ve heard good things about this one

plucky tangle
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Damn man, I need an afternoon to read that review. But I will read it anyway because I like that stuff.

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I just wasnt sure of any good deals besides the norm or any recommendations. I'll probably buy local just so I can take it back easier if need be. I just hate best buy. .... uggh

late sorrel
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mood

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that’s just one that some friends have

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it’s pretty good by them

fiery nacelle
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@late sorrel this is Admiral Doot Doot's current monitor(s)

late sorrel
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yes

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why do you think I recommended it

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smdh

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also I think a friend has it

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so he’s not the only one who likes it

gusty glacier
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You want a new monitor ?

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@plucky tangle

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If you are looking 1920x1080 144hz , 1ms - I recommend mine - AOC G2460PF

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IF you want to use the speakers ( you wont but i need to mention ) they are bad

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IT also supports Freesync ( if you are with a nvidia gpu you can use it still as gsync )

late sorrel
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you don’t need gsync

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Nvidia GPUS in and past the 10 series can use freesync

fiery nacelle
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Not guaranteed by Nvidia, but yeah it's possible

late sorrel
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It’s a 2% difference that’s not worth the price

gusty glacier
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Thats what i said

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you have freesync but you enable it from the nvidia panel

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as g

gusty glacier
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I have a question though

fleet canopy
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Yes?

gusty glacier
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Will the ML360R pass perfectly with the MB530P case ?

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and does the motherboard matter ?

fleet canopy
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Well it seems so?

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It does say the guy has both the case and the cooler, and he doesn't say anything about problems with it

gusty glacier
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Just to make sure

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Although it would be better if they had this case without these 2 big lines on the front

gusty glacier
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But ahhh

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jeez

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this 3700x is almost equal to 8700k

pallid cedar
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3700x has a speed rank of 16th, 8700k has 25th

gusty glacier
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Gaming?

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this is my main focus

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Also i will be with a 1070 for some time so...

gusty glacier
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F it im going for the 3700x and x570 xd

fleet canopy
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kek

gusty glacier
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I mean sure the 8700k has still powers but this one is newer

fleet canopy
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I guess

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3700x seems better

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By like 5%

gusty glacier
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Well i have a month and a half so yeah...

weary wharf
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so i came in here a while ago asking suggestions for a gaming laptop with that price change

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of 1000$

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i just got a check for 2250$

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and looking for a desktop

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instead

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any suggestions

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im not completely informed on what the best graphics cards are

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but

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an RTX 2080 sounds nice

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this is one that ive been looking at

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idk i know little about computers

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and whats good

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and whats bad

abstract kite
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  • modern and high freq processor (8600k, 3600X)
  • 16GB 3200MHz or more
  • one good modern gpu or 2 of them depending on how you manage the budget for the other parts (RTX 2080 or else)
  • SSD for the OS + HDD for games etc
weary wharf
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alright thank you

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@abstract kite would 3000 MHz be fine?

abstract kite
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sure

fleet canopy
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Actually you should go for the 1080 Ti selling for 440$

weary wharf
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i just found a TI

abstract kite
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10 series still has SLI

fleet canopy
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It’s a Zotac 1080 Ti

abstract kite
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do you can even get 4 1080ti if you want 😄

fleet canopy
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For 880$ you can have two 1080 Tis

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Truly epic deal

abstract kite
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does the 1660 have sli or nvlink?

fleet canopy
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Idk about 1660, but 1060 is better than that

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Unless you have one already, Oofers.

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I’m not sure if it has either one of those so you can go look it up

weary wharf
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is there a search option for new egg on how many graphics cards there are in a rig

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that sounds really dumb

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but

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is it

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sdfhds

fleet canopy
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What do you mean?

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Like if it has two in one rig?

weary wharf
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yeah

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probably not something you would see on prebuilt stuff would it

fleet canopy
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Idk if it does

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I’m sure it’s in descriptions though

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Prebuilts aren’t a good recommendation imo if you understand and know how to build a Pc

weary wharf
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im not patient enough for building one

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i understand the reason why you would do a custom one

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but

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im lazy

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and too scared to mess with 2000$ materials

abstract kite
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pc are easy to build

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only just the thermal paste needs a bit of knowledge

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else it's just "if it plugs in, it's the right place"

weary wharf
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oh i know they are its like a i dont have the patience I-phones are a bit much when i used to take them apart

abstract kite
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you could also do it live and get advices from ppl online

weary wharf
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true

dusty pumice
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Just google for some local PC store or small company that does custom PC's usually their build cost outweighs the cost of a pre built pc

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Gotta do ur own research tho = )

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@weary wharf

weary wharf
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I can ask the place I used to work at

fiery nacelle
sick reef
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"If it plugs it's in the right place"
Laughs in common connectors and excessive force

abstract kite
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also, there's more than that

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even tho putting your gpu or your ram on the right connectors makes them work, you will get better performance if they are on their right place

plucky tangle
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@weary wharf I used to buy prebuilt, because I was scurred to build my own. Specially when now, I typically spend 2,000+$ on a computer.

It will be nerve wracking no matter the direction you go. But I'll be honest. Chances of you having to send a part back is relatively high, especially with ram. But anyway, if you buy a prebuilt, the same chances will also apply. The difference is you need to usualy send the WHOLE system back, unless you can pinpoint the exact problem. Where as if you build the system yourself, its alot easier to find the culprit. Also the warranty for parts is alot higher if you build your own. Alot of stuff is 3 years. And if you build your own you will know where everything is, how its laid out so you can add or remove stuff later.

Just know if you fuck up, and let's say you somehow ruin a motherboard.... just send it back. Say it was dead on arrival. But if all that still scares you, go to a friend or local pc shop and ask if you buy everything, will they assemble it. But also see if you can do it with them, that's a big one. Because you would like to learn. Most pc shops .... shouldnt .... mind doing that. But again, never hurts to ask.

All n all, it's your money. But if I was ever going a prebuilt route I'd buy from origin pc. They are alot more expensive, but they more then make up for it with quality parts, great customer service, and warranties. Also they ship your pc in a damn wooden crate, so more often then not it will never arrived damaged.

urban gulch
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Bumpy roads give damage :p

weary wharf
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im only looking for pre built

urban gulch
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Try shaking an SSD, it’ll stop working before you know it

late sorrel
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Do buy from origin, I’ve not heard bad things yet

weary wharf
hexed horizon
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Go AMD.

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Go 2080Ti Super

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All tho idk if that exists

late sorrel
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it doesn’t

hexed horizon
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Is that 750W enough?

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Psu

late sorrel
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idk

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It should barely squeeze by but idk

hexed horizon
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Get a Seasonic 1000W

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Or something

weary wharf
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amd isnt an option

amber shard
hexed horizon
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Well, go higher I thinkm

weary wharf
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i have the purchase power to buy a better power supply

hexed horizon
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With a build like this, money doesn't seem to be an issue. Get the best you can.

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Maybe you wanna upgrade. In 8 years.

weary wharf
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my budget is 3000 dollars

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but

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i need money for a chromebook and microsoft home and student

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i dont need the chrome book to be honest

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whats the difference between a ti blower and a regular ti

hexed horizon
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No ides

late sorrel
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The blower doesn’t have as good as a fan

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Assuming it refers to the fan

hexed horizon
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With a build like this, don't go cheap on PSU.

weary wharf
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this price is pushing it

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at 27 k

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2.7k

hexed horizon
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Noice

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Or just get a gaming laptop and put it in a freezer when you use it so it doesn't melt down

weary wharf
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oof

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yeah i mean

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if i did get one

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id have to use it for school

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as well

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and carying an 8 pound laptop is gonna suck

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time to carry around a 30 pound gaming rig

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does tower size matter at all

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i prefer mid towers

amber shard
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@weary wharf do what most pc technicians will ask you to do. sit down and write out a list of what your wants and needs are for the computer and that will determine the hardware need to achieve your needs

weary wharf
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true

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im still looking

urban gulch
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750 Watt is enough.

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So you are a M-Sized human huh. Well hello to you then 🙇🏻

sick reef
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Is your rig even a gaming rig if it's not 20Kg PepeLaugh

urban gulch
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Yup!

sick reef
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Real gamers have strong arms from lifting their 20Kg+ computer.

weary wharf
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real gamers dont have back problems

sick reef
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Real gamers lift the right way forsenThink

chrome chasm
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I carry my PC where ever I go!

copper zealot
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Kemosabe criticism - never buy pre-built

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D:

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3900x system with top specs and latest nvme + 2080ti is less than your links 😦

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also windows 10 home will actually hinder you with extra services and latter running in background

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Also on the other side of things you can get a gaming laptop even though you will have heating issues for $2400 with great specs

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.<

weary wharf
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I made a build on origin thats pretty kick ass just under 3000$

modern yew
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Any build will be good if your budget is under $3K

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:P

fleet canopy
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Even a good build goes for 2K

plucky tangle
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I was talking to him for a bit, hes pretty set on buying a prebuilt. And I made the recommendation of Origin PC. Of all the prebuilts, they are a much more premium product. Better parts, better service, overall a better experience. If I was going prebuilt, they are the route I would take. Granted a 3k pc by them, you can make for 2k - 2.5kish. But for a prebuilt, they are the best imo

gusty glacier
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Well - RTX 2080 SUPER ( Even though its not out yet ) 3700x and x570 on the cart

late sorrel
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nice

gusty glacier
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I hope it will last me for 4 years xd

late sorrel
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it should do 6 GWchadLENNYTHINK

gusty glacier
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xd

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Well for the cooling

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cpu

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I think i will stick with the CM ml360r

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I've also chosen a case

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CMT340

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Its going to be my first time experiencing anything on ultra with 60+ fps xd

late sorrel
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me and the boys not having 40 on lowest settings GWchadThink

gusty glacier
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I've been to events but im talkin like playing for hours

#

xd

dusty pumice
#

First expierence 60+ fps on ultra on an event

#

feels like playing for the first time on a console in a toy store

#

lmfao

gusty glacier
#

xd

#

Just imagine everything goes fine through the build and when u have to put a little thermo on the cpu

#

And you screw it up

late sorrel
#

It’s just a dot on the CPU

#

and then you put the cooler on flush for it

gusty glacier
#

I know

late sorrel
#

It does it for you

#

oh god

gusty glacier
#

im talking for the meme

dusty pumice
#

Its hard to fuck up thermal paste

late sorrel
#

nO

gusty glacier
#

it hurts lookin at this pic

#

An artist

hexed horizon
#

Haha thats not how you put thermal paste on your cpu haha 😎 😎

gusty glacier
#

i will draw 2 O's and one Y

late sorrel
#

xddddddd

hexed horizon
#

I bet they put it into the motherboard not checking if they got the small trianlge in place

#

Amateurs

dusty pumice
#

Just write AYAYA and OwO on ur CPU you will be fine trust me

#

All the weebs do it

#

and their okay

hexed horizon
#

I watched enough Linus Tech Tips to understand what the heck is going on

gusty glacier
#

No i will draw DEJA VU or GAS GAS GAS

hexed horizon
#

And The Verge tutorial

late sorrel
#

AYes

hexed horizon
#

That shits funny

gusty glacier
#

The Verge?

late sorrel
#

That’s amazing

gusty glacier
#

Haha

late sorrel
#

I loved that one pug

hexed horizon
#

The Verge PC building tutorial

gusty glacier
#

Oh no xd

hexed horizon
#

Yeah, a masterpiece

#

Quality meme

late sorrel
#

“I got us a 2080Ti”

gusty glacier
#

the verge are going to take my life

#

Budget build - goes for high end gpu

hexed horizon
#

And they started copyright striking channels

#

Who reacted to the video, half a year ago

gusty glacier
#

Verge : Today we are going to make a build - i9 9900k and 1050ti

#

at 1600w

late sorrel
#

yes

fiery nacelle
#

Try Ryzen 7 3700X paired with an AIB Radeon 5700XT

late sorrel
#

hey stop giving away my ideas

gusty glacier
#

rtx 2080 super launches Verge: Time to shine

fiery nacelle
#

best bang for buck PC would probably be Ryzen 5 3600/X and AIB Radeon 5700/XT

gusty glacier
#

Is it true that the 3700x passed the i9 on cs go?

fiery nacelle
#

and PUBG rite?

#

haha

late sorrel
#

pubg lite

gusty glacier
#

Whether its intel or nvidia . We are all grateful of amd because these all companies are pushed by amd

#

We all win something from amd after all

hexed horizon
#

The 1050ti goes well with anything tbh

dense wasp
#

Agreed.
Competition is neat.

hexed horizon
#

I had classmates with i3-1050ti, i5-1050ti, i7-1050ti, ryzen 3 1050ti, ryzen 5 1050ti

dense wasp
#

Amd pushing intel forward and the other way around

gusty glacier
#

Mhn

#

GTFO better be prepared for everything

hexed horizon
#

Okay the ryzen 5 1050ti was me

#

The point ks

#

Can we have toshiba processors

gusty glacier
#

NO

#

haha

hexed horizon
#

I heard some of their older laptops use something

#

They made

#

Not sure tho

gusty glacier
#

Toshiba has good batteries

#

the rest is meh

hexed horizon
#

Toshiba 1TB 7200RPM

#

3.5'

gusty glacier
#

I used to call Duracell - Durex and the opposite

hexed horizon
#

Wut

dusty pumice
#

Duracell is my durex

#

I put a small AAA up there and im good to go

gusty glacier
#

2080 super is going to be 700 dollars

#

just like an used 1080ti in my country

#

Btw whats the progress on GTFO

#

is it ready for alpha?

dusty pumice
#

The whole super thing confuses me but i have been too lazy to actually look into it

gusty glacier
#

i can give you a link

#

hold on

dusty pumice
#

How long does it take to read up on it?

dusty pumice
#

You know what would be nice if they stil made cards without RTX

#

I dont know if thats what the supers are supoossed to be but i dont believe so

gusty glacier
#

The diffrence between 2070 and 2070 super is 5-10 fps...

dusty pumice
#

If they made some RTX free cards or smaller GPU's like the 10 series would cut alot more of the costs making mid / low tier more affordable

gusty glacier
#

They should optimize rtx

dusty pumice
#

Ehh

#

i dont think thats happening anytime soon

gusty glacier
#

It will in the future

dusty pumice
#

Ofcourse it will

#

But the 20 series just feels like a test product to the public

gusty glacier
#

probably I11 - 9700k and RTX 8080TI will be on xd

dusty pumice
#

atleast thats my oppinion

#

theres no great benefits to RTX at the moment

gusty glacier
#

Yeah. The only card that holds it at 60 fps is the 2080ti

dusty pumice
#

Yeah

#

I cant wait until intel comes into the graphic card market aswell

gusty glacier
#

I was thinking to go for 1080ti but this 2080 super

#

Intel are making gpus?0

dusty pumice
#

2020

gusty glacier
#

Nvidia 2.0

#

They will be expensive

dusty pumice
#

Intels working on it

gusty glacier
#

I wonder what will be the name

#

INT 1000

#

2021 Nvidia : We are introducing our new CPUs

dense wasp
#

Intel’ gpu, Xe, are actually pretty interesting

#

Will be cool to see if they live up to their promises

abstract tulip
#

i mean intel has always bein pretty stable performence wise, but the prices, and now amd stepping up. they need to change, pepestare

gusty glacier
#

Intel will be expensive af

abstract tulip
#

yup

dusty pumice
#

I think it will be pretty expansive for their first

abstract tulip
#

Now we just have to wait for amd to catch up gpu wise aswell. becuse they have, sort of, but with rtx and the major support for nivida gpu is still large compared to amd.

dusty pumice
#

But i think price will drop with more releases

#

Its better to have some more competition in the GPU market anyway

#

that one way / 2 way thing that has been going aint too healthy for consumers

abstract tulip
#

But im just going by peoples performance in games, and issues they have with amd. so i dont have any hands on with amd gpus sence the amd hd radeon 7970 pepestare

gusty glacier
#

5700xt is hot

abstract tulip
#

and that came out in 2013 monkaHmm and i still remember the time i had it, the good old times sad that it died later down the line

gusty glacier
#

the r9 280x?

#

that was my previous

dusty pumice
#

I actually never had a pc part die on me so far

gusty glacier
#

same

dusty pumice
#

But might be because im upgrading my pc way too often

late sorrel
#

The XT has a shit fan at the moment

gusty glacier
#

Mhm

abstract tulip
#

i mean i pushed it to the limit, and it was obviously experinceing some bottlenecking when going to max settings and such.

gusty glacier
#

Im with this config since 2015. only thing i changed is the gpu

late sorrel
#

when the 3rd party cooling solutions come out, it’ll be much better

gusty glacier
#

Everyone is surprised with 3rd gen

#

3600x
perfect for gaming

#

3700x gaming and editing

#

3950x will be interesting

fiery nacelle
#
  1. AMD makes products with superior value proposition
  2. Thanks AMD for competition
  3. Still buys Intel CPU or Nvidia GPU
  4. AMD insufficient cash to invest properly in R&D - develops inferior products
  5. OMG WTF BBQ AMD it's your fucking damned fault for fucking poor competition - causing Intel and Nvidia to stagnate - why can't you just make better products HUH? HUH? HUHHHH? It's AMD's fault that I cannot get better Intel CPU and Nvidia GPUs for much cheaper.
#

"Rinse and Repeat"

gusty glacier
#

Then get AMD gpu and cpu lol xd

late sorrel
#

yes

gusty glacier
#

I like how we talk about high end parts meanwhile there are these souls with poor configs watching and hoping they will get one someday xd

#

At least AMD is affordable

late sorrel
#

yeppers

fiery nacelle
#

If only AMD could launch Radeon 5600 and 5600XT

urban gulch
#

If only they were better than intel.

late sorrel
#

GPU
Intel

#

yes Faye it will be better than Intel

#

because Intel don’t make gpus of that spec

chrome chasm
#

2080Ti or go home

dusty pumice
#

Double 1080ti ftw

chrome chasm
#

Unless they make a super version of it

#

Not all game take dual link. And second card only give around 40% boost. I rather have something constant across all game for same price

dusty pumice
#

What game gives proper RTX value?

late sorrel
#

It’s SLI and/or CrossFire

dusty pumice
#

Oh yeah so good

late sorrel
#

there’s a difference again because who wants crossfire

dusty pumice
#

Mhmm slap me up with some mayonaise and ill make you a 1080ti sandwich

late sorrel
#

at least with older games

#

Could be wrong

chrome chasm
#

Rtx is a gimmick. But the card itself is more powerful.

dusty pumice
#

It is

#

but its not worth the extra money on the card

#

Heyoo im living rent free in Nvidia's head anyway

chrome chasm
#

In my case, money is not really an issue.

dusty pumice
#

Using a system from a friend thats in the military right now

chrome chasm
#

But other yay I would revommend a 1080yi

#

Or those new amd card

dusty pumice
#

I would buy a new AMD card or a mid level 20 series

#

if i had to buy anything now

#

Theres no reason for me to go higher since there are no games out that ask for any extreme settings

#

that interrest me atleast

late sorrel
#

The 5700XT is looking to be better than the 2070Super

chrome chasm
#

Exactly Groundus

dusty pumice
#

Like lack of game releases has been a real thing for me not to invest into some expansive card i wont be using

chrome chasm
#

The only reason i'm holding on upgrading is the lack of game tgat coukd benefit it.

dusty pumice
#

Same

chrome chasm
#

Waiting fir april 2020 just before cyberpunk 2077 release to upgrade

late sorrel
#

It’s only 400$ too, given that the 2070Super is about 100$ more, and DLSS Isnt as good as the new RDNA and the Image Sharpening

#

it’s about 2% worse

dusty pumice
#

Might aswell wait for the next generation gpu's at this point tbh

late sorrel
#

nah

#

why would you want to wait another year

dusty pumice
#

Its just not worth the money to spend on an older gpu when theres an next GPU around the corner when some big game release happen

#

Releases* happen

#

Why not?

#

I gain alot by waiting and holding my money in the bank / investing it

#

Only reason for me to spend money is to not get a huge goverment tax at the end of the year

late sorrel
#

That’s a good point, the more higher end Navi’s still haven’t come out

dusty pumice
#

You know the big announcement im waiting for now is GTA6

#

that will make things moves faster atleast thats what i believe will happen

#

when that game gets announced, Since it encourages more news on Consoles and GPU's

#

But i wont see GTA6 happen until 2021 / 2022

#

And i hope the new Consoles will hit by the winter of 2020

late sorrel
#

They might because of Cyberpunk

dusty pumice
#

Yeah

#

Cyberpunk is the only hype now in PC gaming world other than the Ubisoft releases but those are not really huge hype for me because ubisoft usually copys the same thing to the next version with better graphics

#

I dont know what else is out there other than some kickstarter and indie games

chrome chasm
#

And Tes6 is too far into the future

#

But knowing bethesda, it's probably going to be the same deal as oblivion and skyrim.

gusty glacier
#

How much will be the 5700xt?

#

or is

chrome chasm
#

Making the same game over and over.

dusty pumice
#

I think people are semi-hyped for borderlands 3 this year tho

gusty glacier
#

Because its on epic games

dusty pumice
#

Well i dont mind buying on epic games but i stil hate supporting their store

#

Even tho i bought some fortnite stuff in the early days

gusty glacier
#

I dont even look forward to this launcher

dusty pumice
#

Only good thing for me about the lack of games

#

I now realise how much i normally spend on games and its an insane amount

gusty glacier
#

Steam is my gaming service

#

i've spent a lot on steam as well

#

origin

dusty pumice
#

I think i could buy a highend computer from my yearly games spendings lmfao

gusty glacier
#

uplay

#

Xd

late sorrel
#

The 5700XT is 400$

gusty glacier
#

And its equal to 2070 super

#

?

late sorrel
#

About

dusty pumice
#

2070 - 2070 super

late sorrel
#

There’s been new drivers out

chrome chasm
#

Fuck epic and bl3

late sorrel
#

so that’s made a difference

gusty glacier
#

Well im looking forward to 2080 super

#

2080super and 3700x

#

Is it just me or when i look at some benchmarks ,some gain more fps in 2k rather than in 1080p

late sorrel
gusty glacier
#

I looked up 1080ti i8700k vs 9700k

#

and some video was showing this

#

I have a friend who bought 2080ti and i9 9900k like a month ago and guess what he played most of the time

chrome chasm
#

Minecraft and csgo...

gusty glacier
#

Correct

dusty pumice
#

CSGO i could feel

#

Minecraft oh hell naw

gusty glacier
#

Yeah

#

CSGO is aight

#

but minecraft

#

We are back in 2010

dusty pumice
#

CSGO is a bit much to been grinding that shit for so many years

#

I dont know how some people are stil not burned on that shit

#

I keep going back once every 2 years or so

gusty glacier
#

I am mostly surprised by the 24/7 russians

dusty pumice
#

and do like 3 months of ranking but thats enough for me

#

Well russians dont play anything else

gusty glacier
#

They do

dusty pumice
#

Ehh i dont see em play anything else

gusty glacier
#

Russian car simulator

dusty pumice
#

TF2 i seen a decent amount of russians on

#

but thats bout it

gusty glacier
#

Ive seen some in Rainbow Six Siege too

dusty pumice
#

Yeah some

#

but very limited amount

gusty glacier
#

Its mixed though

dusty pumice
#

It feels that russians are like 5 - 10 years behind on gaming

late sorrel
#

I’ve been interested in getting a VR headset or/and a driving wheel

gusty glacier
#

VR for Pc?

late sorrel
#

Yeah

gusty glacier
#

@dusty pumice true xd

late sorrel
#

Plug it in and use it with the wheel

#

Or a joystick

gusty glacier
#

They use vodka instead of liqud cooling 😂

dusty pumice
#

I have a wheel but no thanks to the VR stuff

late sorrel
#

Flight sims 🤷

#

yeah, that I get, I’d just rather have a little more immersion

gusty glacier
#

Beatsaber

dusty pumice
#

Wouldnt joystick be better for fly sims

gusty glacier
#

This is an amazing vr game

#

or just go in vr chat

dusty pumice
#

Fuck beatsaber lmfao

gusty glacier
#

Xd

#

What was that game with these red soilders

dusty pumice
#

that shit makes me feel the depressed days once again of gitar hero

#

And dj hero

#

and whatever else was out there

#

I actually know people who play beat saber all day and everyday like wtf

late sorrel
#

Yeah, that’s why I mentioned a joystick

dusty pumice
#

just buy a gym membership

#

or something lmfao

gusty glacier
#

I do my gym at work

dusty pumice
#

Wheel wouldnt make much sense for me for flight tbh but i know people use it

gusty glacier
#

I will buy Logitech wheel for forza

dusty pumice
#

Yeah some work places have gyms but mine has only cardio stuff

gusty glacier
#

and dirt

late sorrel
#

I wouldn’t

dusty pumice
#

so work is pretty trashy for gym workouts

#

for me atleast

late sorrel
#

The wheels for a car smdh

gusty glacier
#

@dusty pumice I carry heavy stuff , not that there is a gym nearby xd

#

Great. 2 days without a game

#

Got my laptop , my mouse

#

and the brother didnt give the charger for the laptop

#

...

sick reef
#

Seems as if dragging different cables, and having the gpu VRAM fan used, lowered my temps by ten degrees for both GPU and CPU.

karmic aurora
#

i have a cpu question, anyone have time to answer?

void perch
#

best to ask the question and whoever knows the answer can help

dusty pumice
#

Yeah just drop the question in chat

karmic aurora
#

so im looking to upgrade my cpu, i currently have an i5 4090k and i was thinking about getting the i7 8900k is there something out there thats pretty much the same with same quality but cheaper?

fleet canopy
#

You can just get 8700K

#

Is good CPU

#

Or if you can, possibly one of the Ryzen 3000 series

plucky tangle
#

I'm on the fence with amd for the time being, partly because I just dont know that much about them due to my own ignorance. But why @karmic aurora are you thinking of getting the 8900k or 8700k and not the latest 9000k chips?

karmic aurora
#

I mean I could just looking for an upgrade

dusty pumice
#

Yeah i would recommend 9900k aswell

#

But he said hes on a budget or lower value than the 8900k

#

I would never budget on a cpu tbh but thats just me

#

Either that or the AMD

copper zealot
#

AMD is the best price value and sticks blow for blow with most intel sub 5% on single core and up to 10% in some applications

#

multicore is another story, intel just gets stomped in applications and workloads aka workstation or server

gusty glacier
#

3600x is better than 8700k

#

Keep in mind that these are new ones. We will have a lot of updates and optimization for em

#

in my country the 3600x is 255 euroes while the 8700k is 400

fleet canopy
#

Hmm

pallid cedar
#

he'd have to buy a new moterboard though

#

motherboard*

fleet canopy
#

True

gusty glacier
#

Well he will need to but at least its newer

fiery nacelle
#

He has to buy a new motherboard anyway whether upgrading to AMD or Intel

dusty pumice
#

He always had to buy a new motherboard

late sorrel
#

yes that’s some nice Intel logic

urban gulch
#

Buy the i7 8700k @karmic aurora, best thing that gets to budget

late sorrel
#

Me and the boys changing the socket tiny bits to make people buy more mobos

fiery nacelle
#

Best value is a B450 micro-ATX mobo (with BIOS flashback via USB) and a Ryzen 5 3600X

dusty pumice
#

I would recommend AMD over i7-8700k

#

But thats just me

urban gulch
#

He must buy a new motherboard with it, not budget possible

late sorrel
#

exactly

fiery nacelle
#

He must buy a new motherboard with the i7 8700k anyways

urban gulch
#

-puppy out

late sorrel
#

so you might as well get a 3600x/3700x depending on moneys, and away you go

dusty pumice
#

I usually really hate these oh i have a budget on a cpu

#

Like anything i would buy on a budget wouldnt be my CPU or GPU

fiery nacelle
#

Since @karmic aurora has only an i5-4690k

late sorrel
#

4690k

#

2500k gang

urban gulch
#

@dusty pumice everyone has their own preferences, please keep that in mind

dusty pumice
#

I would think of a set price point and think about whats reasonable for my whole setup

urban gulch
#

Not everyone is you

fiery nacelle
#

that goes both ways

urban gulch
#

Shh

late sorrel
#

nOt EvErYoNe hAs mOney

urban gulch
#

^

dusty pumice
#

@urban gulch You dont need to @me for that message

urban gulch
dusty pumice
#

And im only giving my opinion i think thats allowed and i have thought over the before stated things written down

#

If you think your going to be using your cpu for a x amount of years

late sorrel
#

You’re*

dusty pumice
#

The budget thing really isnt that viable your whole pc only will be like 1 - 6 dollars a day of investment

#

Im an european my english is not native

#

Eat me

late sorrel
#

v o r e Time

fiery nacelle
#

If budget is what users are after - they prolly should stick to AMDs

late sorrel
#

yee

dusty pumice
#

Yup

late sorrel
#

the 3400g/3200g, how are they holding up?

fiery nacelle
#

advise to skip that

dusty pumice
#

Like even if radeon had decent fans i probably even would recommend the new amd gpu's

fiery nacelle
#

wait for Navi APUs

#

AIB Radeon 5700 / 5700XTs next month would be good buys I suppose

dusty pumice
#

But for me its easier to make a choice in gpu's than in cpu's

fiery nacelle
#

or even the new 5600XT

dusty pumice
#

Well i aint buying one at the moment

late sorrel
#

No, just wondering how they are doing

dusty pumice
#

Im gonna be building at the end of the year when all the information is clear to me and some new intel announcements have been made

fiery nacelle
#

Intel?

dusty pumice
#

Yup intel

late sorrel
#

I’m most definitely getting the 5700XT, just waiting for cooling

#

yeah, Ice Lake

dusty pumice
#

Intel would come with a response on their part when AMD made all releases

late sorrel
#

High end it should be reasonable

fiery nacelle
#

Comet Lake-S is coming out by end 2019, but likely 1st Quarter 2020

#

Working week 52 of 2019

dusty pumice
#

Yup but more information will be out there

#

thats all i need

late sorrel
#

If you’re spending a ton of money, you really should wait for Comet Lake

dusty pumice
#

@fiery nacelle How has ur expierence been using a 4k monitor so far sam?

fiery nacelle
#

I need that Radeon Image Sharpening

dusty pumice
#

I always have been interrested in that but never crazy enough to buy one myself

fiery nacelle
#

Running 4k native is no go

dusty pumice
#

Since their hella expansive and not the best buy out there

#

Why would you need a 4k if you cant run 4k native

fiery nacelle
#

frame rates tanks to the 20s

dusty pumice
#

Like the whole idea of a 4k monitor just blows over my head

fiery nacelle
#

4k videos are nice though

#

But games?

dusty pumice
#

How big is ur monitor?

fiery nacelle
#

Better run at 1440p or 1800p then upscale to 4k

dusty pumice
#

Like how many inches?

fiery nacelle
#

@dusty pumice It's 27"

#

Kinda small for 4k

dusty pumice
#

Yeah i could understand that stil ish

#

But i seen some monitors in the 4k's that are crazy expansive

fiery nacelle
#

With Radeon Image Sharpening, rendering at 1440p or 1800p then upscaling to 4k would greatly reduce blur or softening

dusty pumice
#

I have been following this youtube channel that makes monthly monitor review of the more highend

#

since i cant afford it to buy a new monitor every month lmfao thats 2 - 4k

#

I have a 32 inch as main monitor now 1440p

fiery nacelle
#

My 4k monitor is a budget one - approx USD 340

dusty pumice
#

Got it like 4 - 5 days now really had to get used to all the light it puts out

#

its huge for me

gusty glacier
#

4k gaming is dumb for me

dusty pumice
#

Ahh thats reasonable

gusty glacier
#

2k max

fiery nacelle
#

It's the LG 27UD58

dusty pumice
#

Yeah 4k is dumb for me aswell atleast it doesnt make sense for me

gusty glacier
#

i would watch movies on 4k but games ? Thats too much

fiery nacelle
#

4k, IPS 10-bit panel, 60Hz, with freesync

dusty pumice
#

but i mean if your into video's and graphics

#

Yeah i dont even think i could ever go back to 60hz

#

Even my monitor on the sides are 144hz

fiery nacelle
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That's why the Radeon Image Sharpening introduced with the Navi series is quite a big feature

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Run at 1440p / 1800p then upscale to 4k

dusty pumice
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Yeah i would imagine

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u been pretty hyped for that on the other chat i seen u typing about it

gusty glacier
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im on 144hz. Though most of my friends are with curved monitors - i dont like them much

dusty pumice
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Im on a curved monitor

fiery nacelle
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Image sharpened and scaled by GPU, avoiding the bluriness and softening usually found when outputting non-native resolution to a monitor

dusty pumice
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I would say i dont like a small curved monitor

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but the big ones oh my its so nice

late sorrel
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Isn’t 2k very like 4K

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I’ve been looking at monitors myself

gusty glacier
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fps is diffrent xd

fiery nacelle
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1440p @ 144Hz is like the sweet spot

dusty pumice
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Yup

gusty glacier
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Yees

abstract kite
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"125W"

fiery nacelle
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125W Comet Lake S

abstract kite
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damn is intel ever improving

fiery nacelle
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But to be honest, at 14nm++++

gusty glacier
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Gotta take that rgb psu

dusty pumice
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1440p @ 144hz is not eco friendly tho lmfao

fiery nacelle
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I don't expect the single core performance to change much from 9900k

abstract kite
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they just have been increasing frequency since 6th~7th gen

fiery nacelle
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They've pretty much hit a wall at 5+GHz

late sorrel
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I’m most definitely getting a 144hz monitor

gusty glacier
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AMD won with these ryzens

fiery nacelle
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and by increasing to 10-core, the multi-core frequencies will have to drop eventually

dusty pumice
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I took me like a week or two if it wasnt more to do some decent research on the 1440p's

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theres alot of choice but limited choice

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Atleast in my country

abstract kite
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but putting more cores won't make single thread executions faster...

gusty glacier
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I've been looking for 2k monitors -ASUS

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But seeing their prices...

dusty pumice
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Yeah asus is expansive

gusty glacier
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MSI?

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They make too right

dusty pumice
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MSI is nice but idk about the quality of their monitors

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Yeah they make monitors

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Someone i know just bought 1

abstract kite
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asus be like: expands

fiery nacelle
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a 9900k at 5 GHz all-core will consume upwards of 250Watts by itself...

dusty pumice
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27inch 1080p not the best for 27inch but yeah it was a msi

abstract kite
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expensive is the right spelling btw

late sorrel
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expands in price

abstract kite
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stonks

dusty pumice
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Havent seen the pc build help tech so busy in a while lmfao

fiery nacelle
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nice monitor would be 27", SVA/IPS 8/10 bit panel, 1440p at 144Hz, expanded color gamut, Freesync

abstract kite
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oh yes, show me your gamut

dusty pumice
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I would say 27 inch is the ideal size for me

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its really hard to get used to this giant monitor infront of me while i had a 27inch for a long time and i had no issues there

gusty glacier
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24 inch is enough for me , actually for my space xd

abstract kite
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size doesn't matter reeeeee

dusty pumice
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I can stil switch between 2 24.5 inch screens and a giant one

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so im good lmfao

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I just push the one backwards and the other 2 forward

gusty glacier
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I ran with 2 monitors with r9 280x and a10 7850k

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BENQ

fiery nacelle
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surely you've upgraded from the a10 7850k and r9 280x?

gusty glacier
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This PC was made 2015 ( custom build )

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only thing i changed was the gpu

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but it was kind of a mistake

dusty pumice
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Why was it a mistake?

gusty glacier
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Because i got the 1070

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it was cheap

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sale

late sorrel
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that’s good

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but that’s a big bottlekneck

gusty glacier
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exactly

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and now i am with it

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i still get stable fps though

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Next month i will get 2080super and 3700x and just be done with it

dusty pumice
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Yeah thats a huge upgrade

gusty glacier
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haha yep xd

dusty pumice
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But the 1070 is pretty nice of a card

gusty glacier
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Well

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it will bottleneck with 3700x

dusty pumice
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Most of my friends usually have 1060's or 1070

gusty glacier
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In fact i will get the cpu the ram the motherboard , the cpu cooling and the case and i will stay with the 1070 for some weeks and then change it into 2080super

dusty pumice
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And the 1070's really run pretty decent for most newer games and i think they will be good for atleast two more years

gusty glacier
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1070 is a very good card

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i use the MSI GTX 1070 GAMING X

dusty pumice
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1060's however had to lower in settings

gusty glacier
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they are old af

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3 GB version xd

dusty pumice
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lul

late sorrel
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I’ve got a friend who just bought a brand new 6gb 1060

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what a waste of money

dusty pumice
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How long ago he buy one

late sorrel
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1660? 5700? No he couldn’t wait 6 months

gusty glacier
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He should've got the 1070ti

dusty pumice
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Just before the 20's hit or a long time ago

gusty glacier
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Wait wait

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what is his cpu

late sorrel
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not sure

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he got it at Christmas

gusty glacier
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Then we cant make a choice

late sorrel
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it’s still a waste of money

dusty pumice
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Yeah it kinda is

urban gulch
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It is.

gusty glacier
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1060 is dead

late sorrel
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considering he could have gotten a 5700 for pretty much the same price

gusty glacier
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The 1050ti is out of stock lmao xd

late sorrel
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he had that before

dusty pumice
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He had a 1050 before?

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thats a bad way of doing budget lmfao

fiery nacelle
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1050 to a 1060?

late sorrel
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I think so

fiery nacelle
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ouch

late sorrel
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I’m not 100% sure

dusty pumice
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thats a waste of money

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atleast in my eyes jesus

late sorrel
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But he really did waste money

dusty pumice
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theres stil so many people who have these low quality builds

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and dont know what their doing

fiery nacelle
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at least he should have gotten an RX 580 with the 2 free games from AMD haha

dusty pumice
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I have like atleast 10 - 15 people i helped out from my steam list since they where clueless

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these days i get free games with anything i dont know where these companys get the codes from

late sorrel
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When he told us about the 1060 I told him about getting the 1660 or the Ti, but heck

dusty pumice
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but even when i buy a mouse i get the newest wolfenstein

fiery nacelle
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seriously?

late sorrel
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yeah

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he wouldn’t shift, even though the performance and shit

dusty pumice
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Yeah 1660 is a good buy

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Why wouldnt he listen to you?

late sorrel
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his grandparent or whatever was giving him like 100$ or something

dusty pumice
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At that point i would just stop giving advice

late sorrel
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Also I don’t think the 1660 was out yet

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It was a week away or something

urban gulch
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Christmas? No

dusty pumice
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He could of waited he already had a card

late sorrel
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it wasn’t long or whatever, he did lose some money

dusty pumice
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its not like he had the parts waiting to build a full pc

late sorrel
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Ah, April

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I think there was some promo material, and it showed it being reasonable

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So, yeah, he should have waited 3 months

dusty pumice
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hype went up on the 1660 alot tho after release

late sorrel
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Hold on, the Ti was in February

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what an idiot

dusty pumice
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I mean 3 months is a long time but to upgrade from a 1050 to a 1060 is stil stupid

late sorrel
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it could have been a 970 or a step down

dusty pumice
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That makes a bit more sense but i know people stil streaming on their 980's? i believe thats it

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and their stil doing semi-okay

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[S P E C S]
+Processor: Intel® Core™ i7-6700K
+Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 - 4GB
+Hard Drive: WD Black 3 TB Hard Drive
+Memory 16GB HyperX 1600MHz DDR3

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this and streaming full time GTA5

gusty glacier
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It looks stable

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Why do you include the mic tho xd

dusty pumice
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well it was in the setup

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to lazy to delete it

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There you go i edited it out lmfao

gusty glacier
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How long will 2080s and 3700x hold for streaming

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Thanks

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xd

normal meteor
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10 years probs

dusty pumice
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I dont know streaming really has gotten way more stable

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And i think it will only improve more over the years to come

gusty glacier
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I will stream but no mic

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150 euroes above for one....

dusty pumice
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Why no mic lmfao

gusty glacier
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No money

dusty pumice
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U dont have a headset mic or anything?

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Even an old webcam has a mic

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not that its great quality

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but stil

gusty glacier
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I have razer headsets but the mic is bad