#pc-build-help-and-tech-talk
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I should probably sell my 1080ti seeing how they are still selling for 800$ on ebay
Still playing on a power hungry 980Ti
They're selling refurbished Zotac for 440$
But hey, it run Witcher 3 60 fps 1440p
I have my 980ti as a backup lol
Heh
2k and 4k are way over rated still imo. I'll stick with my 144hz 1080p
There a huge diff in 2k and 1080p too. Can't play anymore on 1080p
Feel like it wasn't much from 900p
I was also very lucky that my dual monitor setup is running well. Considering my other 2 monitors are 60hz
2k and 4k.. barely any visible meaningful change
I never ran into the dreaded high utilage of GPU power because of the different in refresh rates.
But I've owned a 4k, 60hz monitor. 1080p 144hz just looks way better imo. But I play alot of fps games
If you play fps, you need those 144hz
Of course
And alot depends on the size too. I sit super close to my monitors. So 24in is the sweet spot for me.
Or 25xhz if you crazy pro esport ... XD
If you talk to people who have used both. Most agree that 144hz > 2140p
And they are generally cheaper
True
And requires less of a beast to run
You want 2k or 4k gaming and have it look good, you need a beast of a computer
Yeah
Depend on the game. I would obviously play PUBG or whatever FPS on the 144hz. But other kind, I enjoy the shiny eye candy 😉
I'd rather run on ultra 100+ fps then 4k 50-60fps
Medium
Yeah see.... buuut medium still looks good at 4k
Unlike on 1080p
It's probably lower
2k and 4k is just gimmicky right now with gaming monitors unless you are shelling out 700$+
I kind of hate to say that 1440p looks a little teeny difference from 900p
brb, got a Whoreson junior to dealt with.
But it's all preference
I mean, you can get a good 1080p 144hz monitor for like 200-300$
Eh
They're mainly 200$
300$ is dumb
Even 2K 60Hz is same price and at this point
144hz brings 2K to 300$
Or more
Those are some cheap screens then
I'm partial to IPS displays .... so I shall out more
There is literally zero difference from 1ms to 2ms
If you say you notice a difference .... that is a liar
5ms + maybe
I mean
Theres stil a difference in price
1ms still is 200$
so theres room for discussion there
So it's not really a problem
And again. It comes down to the individual. If you are a pro gaming fps player ..... maaaaybe
I only have 240hz or 144hz monitors on 240hz you can tell the difference
But the average person, I'd rather drop more money into a better display then worry about 1 or 2ms
But almost all 240hz are 1ms
Oh yeah huge difference from 60>120>144>240
Can you at least explain what the ms is? >.>
Millisecond
Well theres stil people telling everyone and their mothers they dont see a difference above 60hz
so yeah
How does it benefit in anything though?
I see a drastic difference from 60 > 144 .... but above that I'm like .... ehhhhh
But the avg consumer is stil on 5ms i believe
Like what is it's purpose
Screen tearing
I se
Honestly just Google it. It would explain it far easier. But really quick. Has to do with moving images on the screen and how fast it can process it.
Fps players "like" having a lower MS monitor for that reason
Same goes for ram people dont know theres actually a difference in FPS between 2133 and 3600
Well that's something else entirely. Now that would depends on motherboard, GPU, CPU....
My combination has the sweet spot at 2400
I mean it does and it doesnt
It just depends if things are being bottlenecked.... sometimes just upping ram makes that GPU and CPU work far better. But typically yes, faster ram doesn help.
I'm sure I would notice a few fps difference going to 3200, but it isnt worth the $$
RAM is actually pretty cheap now for me
Atleast in my country
I think DDR4 will go down in price when DDR5 comes around
Ram is cheap af
US here, and it's cheap as well. I just mean, i have 32gigs of 2400mhz atm. So my only benefit would be a better timeing ram or speed
Ususally less than 100$ for a 16GB at 3200
Not for the higher quality products
It was fucking dirt cheap before we hit 2010
I believe somewhere around 2008 - 2012 price went up alot
You can get 32gigs of 3200mhz for like 180$ still right?
ig so
Yeah i think thats a reasonable price to get it at
But idk about the dollar numbers im in a european country so
different prices here
But yes, memory used to be dirt cheap. If we went by prices from 15 years ago .... for 32 gigs of ram at 3200, it would cost like 80$
Yup
I have a huge stack of DDR2 and DDR3
I have alot too probably. I have like 3 old PC's from years back just collecting dust.
I think i have one or two boxes full of ram lmfao
Jesus
when ur minecraft modpack has 12gb allocated but still manages to use it all
Time to buy 16 more gb of ram
Yall are still here? damn
just got off work
i will go to work in few mins as well
ah what do you do if you dont mind me asking
Currently? I carry heavy stuff , make those plastic bags you use everyday and everything available
Its just for the summer
How many hours do you work
Apparently this is some rare 980 Ti? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmtvvaVY1Ck
Herculez 980 Ti X4
2070 super has 5 fps less than the 2080
1080TI WINS
xd
RTX - Real time xtreme disappointment
And there wont be 2070
only 2070 super
what?
just saw this from trustful source
Yes, there will be a 2070 super
and the 2060 super has 5-10 less fps from 2070 super
yes
Im still sticking with 1080ti lmao
oh wait
huh, someone else said something about a athelon and a 1080
and that was a big oof
BoTtleNeck
yuppers
bigger than mine haha 😄
an 8700k is good
Yep
that’s not a bottlekneck
i chose 8700k cuz it has hyperthreading .
9700k is just . .. negative reviews
Also in some videos
i saw that the 1080ti gets same or higher fps in 4k
compared with 2080ti
in 2k for some reason 1080ti has lower
New NVIDIA drivers !!!
It seems like PUBG got beaten xd
Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML360R good for the 8700k ?
https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-RX-5700-XT-vs-AMD-Radeon-HD-5670/4045vsm8110 when you should just +40 to your old GPU 
What
math is hard
frick
Im getting Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML360R
FOr sure lol xd
I will need a new case
Cooler Master again..
lel
I've used Fractal design the past... 5 years or so
fractal cases are very well made, a joy to work in, as someone that builds pcs for others quite often as well as for myself
Eh, just Modify an old Proliant.
It'll do
You can most likely get it for free from some bin
I've always used air cooling. Granted I get a damn good fan for my cpu, but I notice only negligible benefits to liquid cooling. Less risk, and I'm still able to overclock the way I want. Liquid cooling is more for aesthetics imo
No? 
Hmm
You're fully fine to go with Air, but water will almost always perform better. If you need it, or want it, that's up to you.
It doesnt always perform better. @sick reef look up alot of tests between liquid cooling and air cooling. Look at the noctua for example. Linus even did tests between this and a 100$+ liquid cooling line. The air cooling did better.
People forget that your ambient temperature of the room heats up that water. The problem is it's in a closed loop. Where just air can circulate.
It all ends up being a horse a piece though. Because if you have proper ventilation. Your pc should never overheat unless you are doing crazy overclocks.
For me though, I've had nothing but good times, just by using air cooling. I dont need to spend nearly double the price just for aesthetics really.
As said.
You're fully fine to go with Air, but water will almost always perform better. If you need it, or want it, that's up to you.
even though being but-ugly and huge. the Noctua NH-D15 performs at the same level as an AIO in most cases.
People just assume that "water cooling" is the best. And it simply isnt. If you have a tight ass case, with little to no ventilation then water cooling is better. But if you have a nice full size or mid tower case, air cooling with a noctua or equivalent will perform just as good and sometimes better for half the price. But like @dense wasp said, the air cooler is huge, and ugly. But if you are someone like me who leaves their computer on the floor or away from being seen, Idgaf lol.
Also............
So, one of my monitors just went kaput. So, I figure I might as well upgrade my main. I'm looking for a monitor under 300$. I prefer refresh rate over resolution unless there is a great deal. But I never saw the need to have a 4k or 2k monitor when 144hz+ just looks better imo.
Anyway any suggestions are appreciated.
What GPU do you have?
If it’s a Nvidia 10 series or newer I have a good freesync one
1080ti @late sorrel
I "had" a 144hz monitor but I had to run it at 120hz or else it would make my idle temps skyrocket
Have two other 60hz monitors which is why
brilliant
same x3
I do freelance graphic design, so the other 2 monitors are Dell ultra sharp ..... notnthe greatest for gaming. But they were worth every penny. But my gaming monitor is the one that died.
Nothing like turning it on, hearing a bzzzt sound and nothing. Immediately unplugged that sucker.
Damn man, I need an afternoon to read that review. But I will read it anyway because I like that stuff.
I just wasnt sure of any good deals besides the norm or any recommendations. I'll probably buy local just so I can take it back easier if need be. I just hate best buy. .... uggh
@late sorrel this is Admiral Doot Doot's current monitor(s)
yes
why do you think I recommended it
smdh
also I think a friend has it
so he’s not the only one who likes it
You want a new monitor ?
@plucky tangle
If you are looking 1920x1080 144hz , 1ms - I recommend mine - AOC G2460PF
IF you want to use the speakers ( you wont but i need to mention ) they are bad
IT also supports Freesync ( if you are with a nvidia gpu you can use it still as gsync )
Not guaranteed by Nvidia, but yeah it's possible
It’s a 2% difference that’s not worth the price
Thats what i said
you have freesync but you enable it from the nvidia panel
as g
I have a question though
Yes?
Will the ML360R pass perfectly with the MB530P case ?
and does the motherboard matter ?
Well it seems so?
It does say the guy has both the case and the cooler, and he doesn't say anything about problems with it
Just to make sure
Although it would be better if they had this case without these 2 big lines on the front
3700x has a speed rank of 16th, 8700k has 25th
F it im going for the 3700x and x570 xd
kek
I mean sure the 8700k has still powers but this one is newer
Well i have a month and a half so yeah...
so i came in here a while ago asking suggestions for a gaming laptop with that price change
of 1000$
i just got a check for 2250$
and looking for a desktop
instead
any suggestions
im not completely informed on what the best graphics cards are
but
an RTX 2080 sounds nice
this is one that ive been looking at
idk i know little about computers
and whats good
and whats bad
- modern and high freq processor (8600k, 3600X)
- 16GB 3200MHz or more
- one good modern gpu or 2 of them depending on how you manage the budget for the other parts (RTX 2080 or else)
- SSD for the OS + HDD for games etc
sure
Actually you should go for the 1080 Ti selling for 440$
10 series still has SLI
It’s a Zotac 1080 Ti
do you can even get 4 1080ti if you want 😄
does the 1660 have sli or nvlink?
Idk about 1660, but 1060 is better than that
Unless you have one already, Oofers.
I’m not sure if it has either one of those so you can go look it up
is there a search option for new egg on how many graphics cards there are in a rig
that sounds really dumb
but
is it
sdfhds
Idk if it does
I’m sure it’s in descriptions though
Prebuilts aren’t a good recommendation imo if you understand and know how to build a Pc
im not patient enough for building one
i understand the reason why you would do a custom one
but
im lazy
and too scared to mess with 2000$ materials
pc are easy to build
only just the thermal paste needs a bit of knowledge
else it's just "if it plugs in, it's the right place"
oh i know they are its like a i dont have the patience I-phones are a bit much when i used to take them apart
you could also do it live and get advices from ppl online
true
Just google for some local PC store or small company that does custom PC's usually their build cost outweighs the cost of a pre built pc
Gotta do ur own research tho = )
@weary wharf
I can ask the place I used to work at
"If it plugs it's in the right place"
Laughs in common connectors and excessive force
also, there's more than that
even tho putting your gpu or your ram on the right connectors makes them work, you will get better performance if they are on their right place
@weary wharf I used to buy prebuilt, because I was scurred to build my own. Specially when now, I typically spend 2,000+$ on a computer.
It will be nerve wracking no matter the direction you go. But I'll be honest. Chances of you having to send a part back is relatively high, especially with ram. But anyway, if you buy a prebuilt, the same chances will also apply. The difference is you need to usualy send the WHOLE system back, unless you can pinpoint the exact problem. Where as if you build the system yourself, its alot easier to find the culprit. Also the warranty for parts is alot higher if you build your own. Alot of stuff is 3 years. And if you build your own you will know where everything is, how its laid out so you can add or remove stuff later.
Just know if you fuck up, and let's say you somehow ruin a motherboard.... just send it back. Say it was dead on arrival. But if all that still scares you, go to a friend or local pc shop and ask if you buy everything, will they assemble it. But also see if you can do it with them, that's a big one. Because you would like to learn. Most pc shops .... shouldnt .... mind doing that. But again, never hurts to ask.
All n all, it's your money. But if I was ever going a prebuilt route I'd buy from origin pc. They are alot more expensive, but they more then make up for it with quality parts, great customer service, and warranties. Also they ship your pc in a damn wooden crate, so more often then not it will never arrived damaged.
Bumpy roads give damage :p
im only looking for pre built
Try shaking an SSD, it’ll stop working before you know it
Do buy from origin, I’ve not heard bad things yet
it doesn’t
amd isnt an option
https://www.newegg.com/tools/power-supply-calculator/ i came to 721 watts. but get 800 or more as things draw more power as they get older
Well, go higher I thinkm
i have the purchase power to buy a better power supply
With a build like this, money doesn't seem to be an issue. Get the best you can.
Maybe you wanna upgrade. In 8 years.
my budget is 3000 dollars
but
i need money for a chromebook and microsoft home and student
i dont need the chrome book to be honest
whats the difference between a ti blower and a regular ti
No ides
With a build like this, don't go cheap on PSU.
Noice
Or just get a gaming laptop and put it in a freezer when you use it so it doesn't melt down
oof
yeah i mean
if i did get one
id have to use it for school
as well
and carying an 8 pound laptop is gonna suck
time to carry around a 30 pound gaming rig
does tower size matter at all
i prefer mid towers
@weary wharf do what most pc technicians will ask you to do. sit down and write out a list of what your wants and needs are for the computer and that will determine the hardware need to achieve your needs
Is your rig even a gaming rig if it's not 20Kg 
Yup!
Real gamers have strong arms from lifting their 20Kg+ computer.
real gamers dont have back problems
Real gamers lift the right way 
I carry my PC where ever I go!
Kemosabe criticism - never buy pre-built
D:
3900x system with top specs and latest nvme + 2080ti is less than your links 😦
also windows 10 home will actually hinder you with extra services and latter running in background
Also on the other side of things you can get a gaming laptop even though you will have heating issues for $2400 with great specs
.<
I made a build on origin thats pretty kick ass just under 3000$
Even a good build goes for 2K
I was talking to him for a bit, hes pretty set on buying a prebuilt. And I made the recommendation of Origin PC. Of all the prebuilts, they are a much more premium product. Better parts, better service, overall a better experience. If I was going prebuilt, they are the route I would take. Granted a 3k pc by them, you can make for 2k - 2.5kish. But for a prebuilt, they are the best imo
Well - RTX 2080 SUPER ( Even though its not out yet ) 3700x and x570 on the cart
nice
I hope it will last me for 4 years xd
it should do 6 
xd
Well for the cooling
cpu
I think i will stick with the CM ml360r
I've also chosen a case
CMT340
Its going to be my first time experiencing anything on ultra with 60+ fps xd
me and the boys not having 40 on lowest settings 
First expierence 60+ fps on ultra on an event
feels like playing for the first time on a console in a toy store
lmfao
xd
Just imagine everything goes fine through the build and when u have to put a little thermo on the cpu
And you screw it up
im talking for the meme
Its hard to fuck up thermal paste
nO
Haha thats not how you put thermal paste on your cpu haha 😎 😎
i will draw 2 O's and one Y
xddddddd
I bet they put it into the motherboard not checking if they got the small trianlge in place
Amateurs
Just write AYAYA and OwO on ur CPU you will be fine trust me
All the weebs do it
and their okay
I watched enough Linus Tech Tips to understand what the heck is going on
No i will draw DEJA VU or GAS GAS GAS
And The Verge tutorial
AYes
That shits funny
The Verge?
That’s amazing
Haha
I loved that one pug
The Verge PC building tutorial
Oh no xd
“I got us a 2080Ti”
And they started copyright striking channels
Who reacted to the video, half a year ago
yes
Try Ryzen 7 3700X paired with an AIB Radeon 5700XT
hey stop giving away my ideas
rtx 2080 super launches Verge: Time to shine
best bang for buck PC would probably be Ryzen 5 3600/X and AIB Radeon 5700/XT
Is it true that the 3700x passed the i9 on cs go?
pubg lite
Whether its intel or nvidia . We are all grateful of amd because these all companies are pushed by amd
We all win something from amd after all
The 1050ti goes well with anything tbh
Agreed.
Competition is neat.
I had classmates with i3-1050ti, i5-1050ti, i7-1050ti, ryzen 3 1050ti, ryzen 5 1050ti
Amd pushing intel forward and the other way around
I used to call Duracell - Durex and the opposite
Wut
2080 super is going to be 700 dollars
just like an used 1080ti in my country
Btw whats the progress on GTFO
is it ready for alpha?
The whole super thing confuses me but i have been too lazy to actually look into it
How long does it take to read up on it?
You know what would be nice if they stil made cards without RTX
I dont know if thats what the supers are supoossed to be but i dont believe so
The diffrence between 2070 and 2070 super is 5-10 fps...
If they made some RTX free cards or smaller GPU's like the 10 series would cut alot more of the costs making mid / low tier more affordable
They should optimize rtx
It will in the future
probably I11 - 9700k and RTX 8080TI will be on xd
Yeah. The only card that holds it at 60 fps is the 2080ti
2020
Intels working on it
I wonder what will be the name
INT 1000
2021 Nvidia : We are introducing our new CPUs
Intel’ gpu, Xe, are actually pretty interesting
Will be cool to see if they live up to their promises
i mean intel has always bein pretty stable performence wise, but the prices, and now amd stepping up. they need to change, 
Intel will be expensive af
yup
I think it will be pretty expansive for their first
Now we just have to wait for amd to catch up gpu wise aswell. becuse they have, sort of, but with rtx and the major support for nivida gpu is still large compared to amd.
But i think price will drop with more releases
Its better to have some more competition in the GPU market anyway
that one way / 2 way thing that has been going aint too healthy for consumers
But im just going by peoples performance in games, and issues they have with amd. so i dont have any hands on with amd gpus sence the amd hd radeon 7970 
5700xt is hot
and that came out in 2013
and i still remember the time i had it, the good old times sad that it died later down the line
I actually never had a pc part die on me so far
same
But might be because im upgrading my pc way too often
The XT has a shit fan at the moment
Mhm
i mean i pushed it to the limit, and it was obviously experinceing some bottlenecking when going to max settings and such.
Im with this config since 2015. only thing i changed is the gpu
when the 3rd party cooling solutions come out, it’ll be much better
Everyone is surprised with 3rd gen
3600x
perfect for gaming
3700x gaming and editing
3950x will be interesting
- AMD makes products with superior value proposition
- Thanks AMD for competition
- Still buys Intel CPU or Nvidia GPU
- AMD insufficient cash to invest properly in R&D - develops inferior products
- OMG WTF BBQ AMD it's your fucking damned fault for fucking poor competition - causing Intel and Nvidia to stagnate - why can't you just make better products HUH? HUH? HUHHHH? It's AMD's fault that I cannot get better Intel CPU and Nvidia GPUs for much cheaper.
"Rinse and Repeat"
Then get AMD gpu and cpu lol xd
yes
I like how we talk about high end parts meanwhile there are these souls with poor configs watching and hoping they will get one someday xd
At least AMD is affordable
yeppers
If only AMD could launch Radeon 5600 and 5600XT
If only they were better than intel.
GPU
Intel
yes Faye it will be better than Intel
because Intel don’t make gpus of that spec
2080Ti or go home
Double 1080ti ftw
Unless they make a super version of it
Not all game take dual link. And second card only give around 40% boost. I rather have something constant across all game for same price
What game gives proper RTX value?
It’s SLI and/or CrossFire
Oh yeah so good
there’s a difference again because who wants crossfire
Mhmm slap me up with some mayonaise and ill make you a 1080ti sandwich
Rtx is a gimmick. But the card itself is more powerful.
It is
but its not worth the extra money on the card
Heyoo im living rent free in Nvidia's head anyway
In my case, money is not really an issue.
Using a system from a friend thats in the military right now
I would buy a new AMD card or a mid level 20 series
if i had to buy anything now
Theres no reason for me to go higher since there are no games out that ask for any extreme settings
that interrest me atleast
The 5700XT is looking to be better than the 2070Super
Exactly Groundus
Like lack of game releases has been a real thing for me not to invest into some expansive card i wont be using
The only reason i'm holding on upgrading is the lack of game tgat coukd benefit it.
Same
Waiting fir april 2020 just before cyberpunk 2077 release to upgrade
It’s only 400$ too, given that the 2070Super is about 100$ more, and DLSS Isnt as good as the new RDNA and the Image Sharpening
it’s about 2% worse
Might aswell wait for the next generation gpu's at this point tbh
Its just not worth the money to spend on an older gpu when theres an next GPU around the corner when some big game release happen
Releases* happen
Why not?
I gain alot by waiting and holding my money in the bank / investing it
Only reason for me to spend money is to not get a huge goverment tax at the end of the year
That’s a good point, the more higher end Navi’s still haven’t come out
You know the big announcement im waiting for now is GTA6
that will make things moves faster atleast thats what i believe will happen
when that game gets announced, Since it encourages more news on Consoles and GPU's
But i wont see GTA6 happen until 2021 / 2022
And i hope the new Consoles will hit by the winter of 2020
They might because of Cyberpunk
Yeah
Cyberpunk is the only hype now in PC gaming world other than the Ubisoft releases but those are not really huge hype for me because ubisoft usually copys the same thing to the next version with better graphics
I dont know what else is out there other than some kickstarter and indie games
And Tes6 is too far into the future
But knowing bethesda, it's probably going to be the same deal as oblivion and skyrim.
Making the same game over and over.
I think people are semi-hyped for borderlands 3 this year tho
Because its on epic games
Well i dont mind buying on epic games but i stil hate supporting their store
Even tho i bought some fortnite stuff in the early days
I dont even look forward to this launcher
Only good thing for me about the lack of games
I now realise how much i normally spend on games and its an insane amount
I think i could buy a highend computer from my yearly games spendings lmfao
The 5700XT is 400$
About
2070 - 2070 super
There’s been new drivers out
Fuck epic and bl3
so that’s made a difference
Well im looking forward to 2080 super
2080super and 3700x
Is it just me or when i look at some benchmarks ,some gain more fps in 2k rather than in 1080p

I looked up 1080ti i8700k vs 9700k
and some video was showing this
I have a friend who bought 2080ti and i9 9900k like a month ago and guess what he played most of the time
Minecraft and csgo...
Correct
CSGO is a bit much to been grinding that shit for so many years
I dont know how some people are stil not burned on that shit
I keep going back once every 2 years or so
I am mostly surprised by the 24/7 russians
and do like 3 months of ranking but thats enough for me
Well russians dont play anything else
They do
Ehh i dont see em play anything else
Russian car simulator
Ive seen some in Rainbow Six Siege too
Its mixed though
It feels that russians are like 5 - 10 years behind on gaming
I’ve been interested in getting a VR headset or/and a driving wheel
VR for Pc?
Yeah
@dusty pumice true xd
They use vodka instead of liqud cooling 😂
I have a wheel but no thanks to the VR stuff
Beatsaber
Wouldnt joystick be better for fly sims
Fuck beatsaber lmfao
that shit makes me feel the depressed days once again of gitar hero
And dj hero
and whatever else was out there
I actually know people who play beat saber all day and everyday like wtf
Yeah, that’s why I mentioned a joystick
I do my gym at work
Wheel wouldnt make much sense for me for flight tbh but i know people use it
I will buy Logitech wheel for forza
Yeah some work places have gyms but mine has only cardio stuff
and dirt
I wouldn’t
The wheels for a car smdh
@dusty pumice I carry heavy stuff , not that there is a gym nearby xd
Great. 2 days without a game
Got my laptop , my mouse
and the brother didnt give the charger for the laptop
...
Seems as if dragging different cables, and having the gpu VRAM fan used, lowered my temps by ten degrees for both GPU and CPU.
i have a cpu question, anyone have time to answer?
best to ask the question and whoever knows the answer can help
Yeah just drop the question in chat
so im looking to upgrade my cpu, i currently have an i5 4090k and i was thinking about getting the i7 8900k is there something out there thats pretty much the same with same quality but cheaper?
You can just get 8700K
Is good CPU
Or if you can, possibly one of the Ryzen 3000 series
I'm on the fence with amd for the time being, partly because I just dont know that much about them due to my own ignorance. But why @karmic aurora are you thinking of getting the 8900k or 8700k and not the latest 9000k chips?
I mean I could just looking for an upgrade
Yeah i would recommend 9900k aswell
But he said hes on a budget or lower value than the 8900k
I would never budget on a cpu tbh but thats just me
Either that or the AMD
AMD is the best price value and sticks blow for blow with most intel sub 5% on single core and up to 10% in some applications
multicore is another story, intel just gets stomped in applications and workloads aka workstation or server
3600x is better than 8700k
Keep in mind that these are new ones. We will have a lot of updates and optimization for em
in my country the 3600x is 255 euroes while the 8700k is 400
Hmm
True
Well he will need to but at least its newer
He has to buy a new motherboard anyway whether upgrading to AMD or Intel
He always had to buy a new motherboard
yes that’s some nice Intel logic
Buy the i7 8700k @karmic aurora, best thing that gets to budget
Me and the boys changing the socket tiny bits to make people buy more mobos
Best value is a B450 micro-ATX mobo (with BIOS flashback via USB) and a Ryzen 5 3600X
He must buy a new motherboard with it, not budget possible
exactly
He must buy a new motherboard with the i7 8700k anyways
-puppy out
so you might as well get a 3600x/3700x depending on moneys, and away you go
I usually really hate these oh i have a budget on a cpu
Like anything i would buy on a budget wouldnt be my CPU or GPU
Since @karmic aurora has only an i5-4690k
@dusty pumice everyone has their own preferences, please keep that in mind
I would think of a set price point and think about whats reasonable for my whole setup
Not everyone is you
that goes both ways
Shh
nOt EvErYoNe hAs mOney
^
@urban gulch You dont need to @me for that message

And im only giving my opinion i think thats allowed and i have thought over the before stated things written down
If you think your going to be using your cpu for a x amount of years
You’re*
The budget thing really isnt that viable your whole pc only will be like 1 - 6 dollars a day of investment
Im an european my english is not native
Eat me
v o r e Time
If budget is what users are after - they prolly should stick to AMDs
yee
Yup
the 3400g/3200g, how are they holding up?
advise to skip that
Like even if radeon had decent fans i probably even would recommend the new amd gpu's
wait for Navi APUs
AIB Radeon 5700 / 5700XTs next month would be good buys I suppose
But for me its easier to make a choice in gpu's than in cpu's
or even the new 5600XT
Well i aint buying one at the moment
No, just wondering how they are doing
Im gonna be building at the end of the year when all the information is clear to me and some new intel announcements have been made
Intel?
Yup intel
Intel would come with a response on their part when AMD made all releases
High end it should be reasonable
Comet Lake-S is coming out by end 2019, but likely 1st Quarter 2020
Working week 52 of 2019
If you’re spending a ton of money, you really should wait for Comet Lake
@fiery nacelle How has ur expierence been using a 4k monitor so far sam?
I need that Radeon Image Sharpening
I always have been interrested in that but never crazy enough to buy one myself
Running 4k native is no go
Since their hella expansive and not the best buy out there
Why would you need a 4k if you cant run 4k native
frame rates tanks to the 20s
Like the whole idea of a 4k monitor just blows over my head
How big is ur monitor?
Better run at 1440p or 1800p then upscale to 4k
Like how many inches?
Yeah i could understand that stil ish
But i seen some monitors in the 4k's that are crazy expansive
With Radeon Image Sharpening, rendering at 1440p or 1800p then upscaling to 4k would greatly reduce blur or softening
I have been following this youtube channel that makes monthly monitor review of the more highend
since i cant afford it to buy a new monitor every month lmfao thats 2 - 4k
I have a 32 inch as main monitor now 1440p
My 4k monitor is a budget one - approx USD 340
Got it like 4 - 5 days now really had to get used to all the light it puts out
its huge for me
4k gaming is dumb for me
Ahh thats reasonable
2k max
It's the LG 27UD58
Yeah 4k is dumb for me aswell atleast it doesnt make sense for me
i would watch movies on 4k but games ? Thats too much
4k, IPS 10-bit panel, 60Hz, with freesync
but i mean if your into video's and graphics
Yeah i dont even think i could ever go back to 60hz
Even my monitor on the sides are 144hz
That's why the Radeon Image Sharpening introduced with the Navi series is quite a big feature
Run at 1440p / 1800p then upscale to 4k
Yeah i would imagine
u been pretty hyped for that on the other chat i seen u typing about it
im on 144hz. Though most of my friends are with curved monitors - i dont like them much
Im on a curved monitor
Image sharpened and scaled by GPU, avoiding the bluriness and softening usually found when outputting non-native resolution to a monitor
fps is diffrent xd
1440p @ 144Hz is like the sweet spot
Yup
Yees
"125W"
125W Comet Lake S
damn is intel ever improving
But to be honest, at 14nm++++
Gotta take that rgb psu
1440p @ 144hz is not eco friendly tho lmfao
I don't expect the single core performance to change much from 9900k
they just have been increasing frequency since 6th~7th gen
They've pretty much hit a wall at 5+GHz
I’m most definitely getting a 144hz monitor
AMD won with these ryzens
and by increasing to 10-core, the multi-core frequencies will have to drop eventually
I took me like a week or two if it wasnt more to do some decent research on the 1440p's
theres alot of choice but limited choice
Atleast in my country
but putting more cores won't make single thread executions faster...
Yeah asus is expansive
MSI is nice but idk about the quality of their monitors
Yeah they make monitors
Someone i know just bought 1
asus be like: expands
a 9900k at 5 GHz all-core will consume upwards of 250Watts by itself...
27inch 1080p not the best for 27inch but yeah it was a msi
expensive is the right spelling btw
stonks
Havent seen the pc build help tech so busy in a while lmfao
nice monitor would be 27", SVA/IPS 8/10 bit panel, 1440p at 144Hz, expanded color gamut, Freesync
oh yes, show me your gamut
I would say 27 inch is the ideal size for me
its really hard to get used to this giant monitor infront of me while i had a 27inch for a long time and i had no issues there
24 inch is enough for me , actually for my space xd
size doesn't matter reeeeee
I can stil switch between 2 24.5 inch screens and a giant one
so im good lmfao
I just push the one backwards and the other 2 forward
surely you've upgraded from the a10 7850k and r9 280x?
This PC was made 2015 ( custom build )
only thing i changed was the gpu
but it was kind of a mistake
Why was it a mistake?
exactly
and now i am with it
i still get stable fps though
Next month i will get 2080super and 3700x and just be done with it
Yeah thats a huge upgrade
haha yep xd
But the 1070 is pretty nice of a card
Most of my friends usually have 1060's or 1070
In fact i will get the cpu the ram the motherboard , the cpu cooling and the case and i will stay with the 1070 for some weeks and then change it into 2080super
And the 1070's really run pretty decent for most newer games and i think they will be good for atleast two more years
1060's however had to lower in settings
lul
How long ago he buy one
1660? 5700? No he couldn’t wait 6 months
He should've got the 1070ti
Just before the 20's hit or a long time ago
Then we cant make a choice
it’s still a waste of money
Yeah it kinda is
It is.
1060 is dead
considering he could have gotten a 5700 for pretty much the same price
The 1050ti is out of stock lmao xd
he had that before
1050 to a 1060?
I think so
ouch
I’m not 100% sure
But he really did waste money
theres stil so many people who have these low quality builds
and dont know what their doing
at least he should have gotten an RX 580 with the 2 free games from AMD haha
I have like atleast 10 - 15 people i helped out from my steam list since they where clueless
these days i get free games with anything i dont know where these companys get the codes from
When he told us about the 1060 I told him about getting the 1660 or the Ti, but heck
but even when i buy a mouse i get the newest wolfenstein
seriously?
his grandparent or whatever was giving him like 100$ or something
At that point i would just stop giving advice
Christmas? No
He could of waited he already had a card
it wasn’t long or whatever, he did lose some money
its not like he had the parts waiting to build a full pc
Ah, April
I think there was some promo material, and it showed it being reasonable
So, yeah, he should have waited 3 months
hype went up on the 1660 alot tho after release
I mean 3 months is a long time but to upgrade from a 1050 to a 1060 is stil stupid
it could have been a 970 or a step down
That makes a bit more sense but i know people stil streaming on their 980's? i believe thats it
and their stil doing semi-okay
[S P E C S]
+Processor: Intel® Core™ i7-6700K
+Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970 - 4GB
+Hard Drive: WD Black 3 TB Hard Drive
+Memory 16GB HyperX 1600MHz DDR3
this and streaming full time GTA5
10 years probs
I dont know streaming really has gotten way more stable
And i think it will only improve more over the years to come
Why no mic lmfao
No money
U dont have a headset mic or anything?
Even an old webcam has a mic
not that its great quality
but stil
I have razer headsets but the mic is bad

