#pc-build-help-and-tech-talk

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fiery nacelle
harsh terrace
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idc if i dont eat for weeks lol

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i want it

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lol

tight cliff
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y'all didn't know gamers were fed through gaming?

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we do not need money

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we however need gamer girl pee to quench our thirst

fiery nacelle
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wat?

lost iron
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I told you guys a 16c/32t on am4 was coming

fiery nacelle
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You aren't the CEO of Gearbox are you?

lost iron
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But you guys didn't believe me

tight cliff
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anyways

fiery nacelle
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"golden showers on minors"

tight cliff
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thanks doot

fiery nacelle
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LOL

tight cliff
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I think I'll keep that in mind

harsh terrace
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Lisa Su messed up at computex and confirmed it

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we knew it existed, just not the release date

fiery nacelle
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Just now they indicated a release date of September

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Not sure when in September

fleet canopy
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Hmm

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Sounds nice

fiery nacelle
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USD 749 though

fleet canopy
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Wut

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Not nice

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Not epic

fiery nacelle
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I was expecting 699 though

fleet canopy
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Yes

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50 less is better

fiery nacelle
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But intel has no competition at those prices

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Looks like the 12c/24t Ryzen 3900x at USD 499 is a much more appealing deal...

fleet canopy
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Of course

fiery nacelle
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USD 749 is 50% more but with only 33% more cores

fleet canopy
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Hmm

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It sounds like

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Mmh

fiery nacelle
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Oh well for the majority of us I suppose the 8c/16t Ryzen 7 3700x at USD 329 or Ryzen 7 3800X at USD 399 is sufficient for the next several years

harsh terrace
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I wonder if they're gonna market it for gaming

fleet canopy
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With the price, I wouldn't think so

harsh terrace
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cuz i can't imagine its faster for gaming

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it has a slightly slower clock speed

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and an insane price

fiery nacelle
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I think they will though

harsh terrace
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although its great for streaming and such

fiery nacelle
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"World's first 16 core Gaming CPU"

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Yeah would be appealing to those doing dual streaming and recording at the same time

harsh terrace
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intel has absolutely nothing to counter tho lol

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their cheapest 16 core is $1489.99 lol

fleet canopy
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dafuq

fiery nacelle
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There's the 9900KS but we aren't sure of clocks or pricing

harsh terrace
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its a 16 core?

fiery nacelle
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Nope only 8 though

harsh terrace
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ah

fleet canopy
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So which monitor was I told to get?

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It's been a long while since >~>

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Ping me whenever someone will respond to this >~<

lost iron
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AOC C24G1

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@fleet canopy

fleet canopy
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Alright thanks

lost iron
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That's mine anyway

fiery nacelle
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Freesync

thorny raft
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Help

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My PC is a Laptop

hexed horizon
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Easy fix

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Buy a keyboard and an individual monitor

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Plug them in, and close the laptop screen.

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It should work

fiery nacelle
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Hope so, especially for e-sports and older titles that are latency sensitive but only require 2 to 4 threads (can fit all into a single CCX)

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@lost iron @fleet canopy @harsh terrace @hexed horizon @bronze cloak

thorny raft
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Let's just ping @everyone for good measure

fiery nacelle
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Topology awareness

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oh boy wouldn't that piss everyone off?

harsh terrace
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Woah I was sleeping

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Lol

fiery nacelle
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RYZEN CCX AWAKEN

normal meteor
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How dare you ping me. You scum

wraith mantle
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Nah

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That's disabled

harsh terrace
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Dang... 1ms? I don't believe it

fiery nacelle
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oh that is for clock ramping

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not core to core or memory latency

harsh terrace
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Oh

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Nvm

lost iron
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Loki

fiery nacelle
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This SHOULD surely help with all those games where Intel is beating AMD Ryzen due to latency

lost iron
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I'ma ping you

normal meteor
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Don’t you do it Doot

fiery nacelle
lost iron
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I have to sleep

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So I can't read it tbh

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Night guys

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@L O K I

normal meteor
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Night Doot 😂

lost iron
harsh terrace
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Everytime I hear something about ryzen this year it just gets better lol

fleet canopy
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Hehe

fleet canopy
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Now at 2.2K

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Just like it's always been for 666 years

bronze cloak
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Oof 1080 ti and a 1080p monitor

harsh terrace
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Ay does anyone know any AIO's that are above average with performance? i can't seem to find any reliable benchmarks

fleet canopy
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Yes I know

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It seems the monitor is idefk

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I could do 1440p 144Hz I guess, but should I?

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And I never really experience 1080p gaming yet, so it doesn't really seem a good idea, as 1080 Ti struggles to do well on 1440p

abstract kite
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@harsh terrace the only thing I'm not 0% regretting on my 2yo 2k€ build is taking an AIO
my CM 240M is about as powerfull as a very good ventirad (noctua big boi or dark rock pro) while being more expensive
it's still looks good and gives a lot of space around your hot components like ram and gpu

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I know that because 2 of my friends and myself took the same cpu (7700k)

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1080ti for a 144Hz 1080p sound good, a few badly optimised games runs lower than 144fps on my 1070 (the worst was around 40fps on DoW3, garbage game)

harsh terrace
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@fleet canopy a 1080ti should run 1440p just fine

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And if you want high res and don't mind losing some vram, a 2080 is a tad cheaper than a new 1080ti

fleet canopy
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mmk

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So I guess it's getting a 2080 and 1440p

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Which manufacturer for 2080?

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Asus ROG Strix?

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Oh yeah I'm also gonna be getting a monitor as a present so it might be 1080p 144hz :c

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Unless I can find a 2560x1440p 144hz at a similar price of what 1920x1080p 144hz is

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I mean, I guess my dad wouldn't mind 100 USD extra

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And it'll probably run bad on a 1060 3GB with a 7700K

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If it does, at the meantime, i'll still continue to use the 1600x900 I have

harsh terrace
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Zotac is the cheapest non blower card I believe

fleet canopy
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Okay time to finally understand watercooling

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Well I got the Asus rog strix OC

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But I’ll think about your suggestion

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And no, I never bought it yet or anything, I just have it on my part list sorry for misunderstandings

pallid cedar
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Hardold I would suggest going with the Ryzen 2700 cpu instead of the 2700X as the 2700 is also unlocked for overclocking, and unless you need that much more CPU power for extra tasks on top of gaming, it is overkill for pretty much any games you'll run. I have a 2700 overclocked to 4GHz with a Noctua cooler and even in Metro Exodus at Ultra (not extreme) settings with my RTX 2060 I get 120+fps with high ray tracing and my gpu is my bottleneck, my cpu barely goes over 45% in games.
A 2700x is overkill and just extra money for performance that you most likely will not need.

fleet canopy
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Alright cool

pallid cedar
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unless you will be using you rig for video editing/processing/editing and simultaneous streaming at 1080 60fps.

fleet canopy
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I never really learnt or at least know much of AMD CPU’s so I assumed it would be a good choice

pallid cedar
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you should also be able to get a better performing and cheaper card than the 1080ti in something like one of the RTX cards, or the new GTX 1660 Ti. Less VRAM (11GB to 6GB) but it is a major speed step up from GDDR5 to GDDR6. My friend is getting a MSI Ventus OC GTX 1660 Ti and it has roughly the same performance as my RTX 2060, just no Ray Tracing

fleet canopy
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I put in an Asis rog strix OC 2080 but belle suggested a non blower so I might get that

pallid cedar
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def non blower style

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my ROG STRIX RTX 2060 has 3 fans and a massive heatsink, my gpu never goes above 64 degrees celsius

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I feel I should specify I also only run games on 1080p with my 144Hz monitor. I don't have 1440p to know how that handles firsthand

fleet canopy
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Also, for ram, should I keep and get that or use my current 2x8 GB ram

pallid cedar
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32 is really only required for all the extra tasks, like gaming and recording and streaming at the same time. Most games don't need any more than 16GB currently.

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unless you like to open like, 20 Chrome tabs lol

fleet canopy
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I don’t use chrome anymore o-o

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Kek

pallid cedar
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lol gg

fleet canopy
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I’ll reuse my 16 GB ram

pallid cedar
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G. Skill RAM with 3200 MHz is good for Ryzen cpus, they like fast RAM

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do you have an SSD?

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(I'm secretly editing your pc part picker build lol)

fleet canopy
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1 TB SSD and a 250 GB ish SSD

pallid cedar
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kk, that works

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and normally I wouldn't suggest buying a $100 copy of Win10, generally can get it for cheaper from other sites 😛

fleet canopy
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Of course, but idgaf lol

pallid cedar
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haha fair enough

fleet canopy
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Whenever you’re done with edit that pretty much fits, along with the Zotac 2080 non blower, DM it

pallid cedar
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bam

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reduced to $1500 ish

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I didn't put the Zotac non blower in that list yet though

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just the 1660Ti

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give you a prive reference

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price*

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otherwise there is a Zotac AMP extreme 8GB for $779 from Newegg

fleet canopy
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I honestly don’t mind the extra money to get that GPU

pallid cedar
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back up to $2000ish

fleet canopy
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2080 USD, nice

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But that’s pretty much the build I’ll be good with, heh

pallid cedar
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hmmm

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seems like you can get an ASUS ROG STRIX 2080 for the same price

fleet canopy
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Yeah

pallid cedar
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not sure how different the quality is

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I assume ASUS is better than Zotac though

fleet canopy
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I’m sure it’s not that much different

pallid cedar
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oh shit

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I'd get the ASUS actually

fleet canopy
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Haha, I figured

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I knew asus was a good pick

pallid cedar
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wait... this comparison isn't the correct model, hold on lol

fleet canopy
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Asus rog strix OC 2080

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Once you have gotten that done, DM it to me since I’m on mobile and I have nowhere to store that list atm

pallid cedar
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nvm, the Zotac is better actually

fleet canopy
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Oh, really?

pallid cedar
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the comparison showed me a 2080Ti ASUS instead of the regular 2080

fleet canopy
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Oh lmao

pallid cedar
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I switched it back and it shows the Zotac beating it just by a hair lol

fleet canopy
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Hehe, I sure it doesn’t make much of a difference

pallid cedar
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all performance benefits, the ASUS is only smaller and narrower for other cases

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def go Zotac

fleet canopy
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Wait that’s confusing

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Why is the asus one at 535 USD

pallid cedar
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?

fleet canopy
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It should be 800 USD instead 535 USD

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I’ve never seen a 2080 any lower than 700

pallid cedar
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for the ASUS?

fleet canopy
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Yeah

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That’s quite an unusual price

pallid cedar
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I don't see that at all :/

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maybe you have more vendors allowed on PC [art picker

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I only allow Newegg, amazon, and Mike's Computer Shop

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most others are sketchy af

fleet canopy
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Ah I see

pallid cedar
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but I'm also form canada so my options for ordering are more limited

fleet canopy
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I guess that’s why

pallid cedar
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could be, just keep an eye on the prices, and where you order it from. Double check reviews for the vendors selling them, might be a scam or just poor quality

fleet canopy
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Maybe

pallid cedar
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other than that you're build is good to go to handle basically every game coming out for the next decade lol

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your*

fleet canopy
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I’ll be going now though, take care

pallid cedar
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have a good one

chrome chasm
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Cyberpunk 2077 partner with Nvidia for Ray-tracing. I guess they are going to work way more to optimize a RTX over AMD card

abstract tulip
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I mean the only game that was optimised for amd stuff was division 2. of what i remember GWgoaThinken otherwise alot of studios will go for nvidia most of the times.

pallid cedar
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the new AMD Navi video cards are stated to support Ray Tracing in 2020

bronze cloak
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neat maybe it'll actually be a useful feature by then

pallid cedar
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maybe, we'll have to see I guess

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Apparently 4 games are made alongside AMD currently: The Division 2, Ghost Recon: Breakpoint, Gears 5, and Borderlands 3.

lost iron
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Interesting that an decided to go with ray tracing

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When they've had Radeon rays since like 2009 or some shit

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Which is just ray tracing but for workstation stuff

fiery nacelle
lost iron
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Ah

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So it's not NVIDIA ray tracing

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I'd say it's just the evolution of Radeon rays then

fiery nacelle
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Next Gen RDNA = 2020?

harsh terrace
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Likely

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I know a flagship will be released/announced April-ish next year

plucky tangle
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Ugh ray tracing

lost iron
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Yeah can't wait to see their flagship

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I'm hoping they go back to the 295x2

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I would like to see 2x 5700XT on one PCB using infinity fabric link

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That would really shit on competition

fleet canopy
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I noticed the pc part list has a 650 watt psu

pallid cedar
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it does, yeah

fleet canopy
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I have the almost exact psu

pallid cedar
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EVGA is a good PSU supplier

fleet canopy
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EVGA 650W g3

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That’s the kind I have I believe

pallid cedar
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that should work just fine then with the build

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preferably get a G2 but a G3 will be no problem either

fleet canopy
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Alright, if a possibly year old PSU works great

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No I’m saying I have the exact psu

pallid cedar
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good stuff

fleet canopy
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I think I saw it have G3 on it tho

pallid cedar
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generally a year old PSU isnèt an issue

fleet canopy
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Ik it’s better st least

pallid cedar
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G2 is better than G3, don't ask me why they did it that way

fleet canopy
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Ah

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lolwut

pallid cedar
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as long as it is Gold+ rated, should be all good

fleet canopy
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Yeah mine is a gold+

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I believe

pallid cedar
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if so then you shouldn't need a new PSU

fleet canopy
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Now imma check whether to go for a 1440p 144hz or 1080p 144hz

pallid cedar
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if you're running a 2080 I'd probably try to spring for the 1440p

fleet canopy
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Yeah ofc

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But you know 🤷 I’m gonna check anyway lol

pallid cedar
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never hurts to look

lost iron
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EVGA is poor at quality control

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I'd never buy another EVGA part again after the 900 series GPUs

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The last great thing they did were the classified motherboards

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Those were sexy

pallid cedar
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only thing I buy from EVGA is power supply. They've been known to fail less often than Cooler Master and Bitfenix

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the G2 series are considered the best on the markewt

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and Corsair PSU's have reports of high-pitch noises coming from them

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other than EVGA I'd probably get a Seasonic

fleet canopy
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So fren needs a pc upgrade

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800 Euros, and has to exceed the revealed specs for new Watchdogs game o-o

bronze cloak
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I’m looking to get an EVGA keyboard, the Z10 is really cheap right now and it seems pretty good. They’re coming out with an RGB version but I’m just gonna get the old red one.

pallid cedar
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running Watch Dogs Legion shouldn't be tough

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not sure how accurate this will be since it's predicted, but this is what I found for recommended specs to run the new Watch Dogs.
Recommended Requirements, Predicted
OS: Win 7 64
Processor: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz / AMD FX-8370
Graphics: AMD Radeon RX 580 8GB or NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060
VRAM: 3GB
System Memory: 8 GB RAM
Storage: 40 GB Hard drive space

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this PC build should be able to run it, and it's around $800 US

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unless he wants to play it at higher than 1080p lol

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sorry, $900 USD* not 800

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which should be around 800 euros

fleet canopy
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He has a 1080p monitor

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It says 60Hz tho Kek

pallid cedar
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that build should let him play pretty much everything 1080p 60fps

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unless he has different vendors in UK, some of those parts might not be available to him

bronze cloak
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That motherboard is way overpriced, you can get a nice B450 board for that

pallid cedar
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oh probably

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depends on his UK vendors though

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preferably I'd rather go with x370 or 470 but that's just me

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also the tomahawk is one of the best 350 boards on the market, why the price is higher

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oh shit

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why is the b350 so much more than the same 450 right now? o.0 lol

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even cheaper with the 450 now lol gg

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also, might be worth waiting for the new line of Ryzen cpus and motherboards

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the Ryzen 3000 line is coming out, and the new boards the x570's are coming with them

bronze cloak
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Eh, X570 looks like it could be expensive, and unless you’re pushing some higher overclocks 4xx chipset boards should be fine with a new bios

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I do plan on getting an R5 3600 though

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Maybe a 5700 XT down the line

lost iron
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X570 will be more expensive then previous and chipsets

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But in saying that, it will probably be cheaper then some.intel boards too

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X570 runs quite hot so it needs active cooling

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There's already the ASRock meme liquid cooled one for 1000USD

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I imagine Asus will have a strix board with an actively cooled chipset (via basic bitch fan) which will suffice quite well for around the 150-220USD mark

pallid cedar
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good thing the 3000 series works on x470 boards, but the pcie 4.0 on 570s is real nice.

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hope they get the heat issue worked out

lost iron
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I wouldn't put a high end 3000 chip on a 400 series board

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That's bottle necking like a mofo not to mention that 500 series boards will have 14 phase power for the chips to take advantage of

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The heat issue is combination of the 14 phase power and the chipsets use of it

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It's not so much a problem as a symptom of the technology

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The solution of which is active cooling on the Mobo hich only went out of style in like 2012

pallid cedar
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as far as I am aware there is a specific BIOS update for X470 boards to allow 3000 series chips that also removes PCIe 4.0, you'll still be able to utilize the cores, threads, and clock speeds of the cpu normally, shouldn't be much different from the current 2700/2700x cpus

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to be clear I also only mean this as a means to an end, which is finding a good x570 mobo that has active cooling on it or something. But in the end, obviously this is all more expensive and not really required at all for gaming currently

lost iron
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There is specific bios updates to allow Ryzen 3000 chips to work on a 400 series board

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But it's like putting a modern 4 cylinder engine into a Mustang

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If you aren't going to buy a 500 series board don't buy anything more then a Ryzen 3600

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The old boards just won't keep up with the better chips

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You will see bottlenecking between the Mobo and the CPU

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The 3000 series chips are designed to run on 14 phase power systems

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Or at least designed to take advantage of such power systems

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I'd put a 3300 or a 3600 on a 400 board but I wouldn't spend any more money on the CPU then that if I wasn't going to buy a board to unlock it's full potential

pallid cedar
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oh I agree, which is why I clarified that I'd only buy one of the higher end 3000 series if I was planning on getting a better x570 board in the future to take full advantage of my cpu

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but I already built my new pc only about 3-4 months ago 😛 X470 Taichi/Ryzen 7 2700/ASUS ROG STRIX OC RTX 2060
I'm just waiting on GTFO to finally release lol

lost iron
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Not a bad build

fervent sigil
lost iron
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Outside of having the cooling capacity and power delivery there is no other advice

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You could attempt to just get one core to over 5

fervent sigil
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Ahh, thanks

hexed horizon
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Can you guys make a build with a 400 dollar budget I bet you can't

abstract kite
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can't do less than ~1500 :p

dark quarry
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Used to be able to build a decent AMD rig on 400 bucks. Not sure it's possible anymore.

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You'll be lucky if you can get a mobo, cpu and RAM for 400 bucks.

fervent sigil
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I used to game on an overclocked i7 920 with 10gb of ram. Those are still realy cheap XD

hexed horizon
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500 dollars with AMD APU?

harsh terrace
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I made a "console killer" awhile back

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Idk if it still holds up tho

lost iron
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@hexed horizon I can do a build which will be fine at 1080p for 350-400USD

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But it would only work if you could buy the parts as refubs

hexed horizon
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Thats the point

lost iron
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It's easy in America

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If you tell me your locale and any PC stores that do refurbs I can help

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I can also see if I can get something together with Newegg America and have it shipped over but the shipping is gonna kill it

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In Australia and America it's very possible to do what you want

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And of course it's made on refurbished parts

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Not brand new

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Using the 2400G you can make something half decent cheap though

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That's on a 2400G

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And it would do in a pinch

fiery nacelle
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he's in Hungary

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@hexed horizon has a PC, what are the specs again?

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Ryzen 5 1500X
8GB DDR4

lost iron
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$495 with dedicated GPU

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CPU upgradable in future

hexed horizon
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I got a 1500X, 8Gb, and an OC 1050Ti

lost iron
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When Ryzen 3000 comes out that would swap to a 3300 for the CPU

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And then cost about $510

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Which would be within reasonable margin of budget

fiery nacelle
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@hexed horizon 's PC seems ok

hexed horizon
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I know

fiery nacelle
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wait a minute, isn't supposed to be It's a black pug

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or Black Pug whom on thin ice

hexed horizon
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It was 700 dollars tho

lost iron
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Pug challenged me to make a worthwhile build for under 500USD that's all

fiery nacelle
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(challenge Pug to buy a new monitor)

hexed horizon
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But I refuse!

lost iron
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AOC c24g1

hexed horizon
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Daka kotowaru

lost iron
fiery nacelle
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You know what Aunty always said

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With great audio comes great visuals

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LOL

lost iron
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Aunty always said, go to be doot doot

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It's 9pm

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So I'm gonna listen for once

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Catch you all later

fiery nacelle
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sleeping so early?

lost iron
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Yeah I'm fucked from this shopfitting

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So I'm having an early night, catch you all later

harsh terrace
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Where do you guess live? It's 4am here

hexed horizon
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he is Australian

harsh terrace
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Ah

fiery nacelle
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@harsh terrace You're either in California or Canada?

harsh terrace
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Close :3

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Nevada

fiery nacelle
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that's desert territory

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wait - Las Vegas?

harsh terrace
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Mhm... Computers are a bitch to cool here

fiery nacelle
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nice gals though lol

harsh terrace
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Unfortunately the good ones are straight ;-;

fiery nacelle
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wait

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isn't that a good thing?

harsh terrace
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Not for me... I'm gay

fiery nacelle
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g or l ?

harsh terrace
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Eh?

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G or L? Wdym

fiery nacelle
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gay or les?

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(always thought the term gays only applied to males who aren't straight)

harsh terrace
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No lol

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Idk why girls have a special name for it

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Anyways

abstract kite
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for porn research queries

harsh terrace
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Ig

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Lol

fiery nacelle
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lg?

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sounds like a monitor manufacturer haha

harsh terrace
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Lol... ig = I guess

fiery nacelle
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oh it is i g

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haha

harsh terrace
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Lol

fiery nacelle
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when you meant unfortunately the good ones are straight - my mind was like "hmmm, if you'd prefer them lesbians, then you gotta be a girl yourself rite?" LOL

harsh terrace
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(it's not like my username gives it away or anything)

abstract kite
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you can't trust anyone online, girls are very rare

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and a lot of boys are claiming being girls

fiery nacelle
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you know 1/3 my male online friends have lady nicks, half have lady profile pics, and the rest play lady avatars in-game

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look at my profile pic

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LOL

harsh terrace
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Ig lol

fiery nacelle
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@abstract kite gotta vet Rav real real closely LOL

abstract kite
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what does that tell about me? I'm a cute bismuth crystal

harsh terrace
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I meet trans grils more than catfishers tho... So idk

abstract kite
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let's get back to the topic

fiery nacelle
harsh terrace
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Lol

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Alright

fiery nacelle
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so I got this from AMD reddit

harsh terrace
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Does anyone know which mobo's will be 3950x ready?

abstract kite
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the last Define S2 vision blackout is very nice, if I had to choose a pc case right now it would be this one

fiery nacelle
#

@harsh terrace the existing X470 and B450 motherboards, right?

harsh terrace
#

No... X570

abstract kite
#

ofc

fiery nacelle
#

oh probs ALL of em right?

harsh terrace
#

I don't imagine the lower end ones will

abstract kite
#

they'll be available with pcie 4.0, ofc you'll have a different mobo

fiery nacelle
#

especially if we were to constrain the 3950X to its official TDP of 105W

harsh terrace
#

I mean... Im gonna oc

fiery nacelle
#

overclocking... another thing

#

on air?

harsh terrace
#

No

fiery nacelle
#

wow

#

water

abstract kite
#

vodka

#

true slav gaming

fiery nacelle
#

such accent

harsh terrace
#

Absolutely dumb question cuz I've never had an amd chip or proper desktop... Can you raise the TDP?

fiery nacelle
#

oh the TDP is a "guide" / indication

#

for thermal cooling solutions

harsh terrace
#

Ah... I'm dumb lol

fiery nacelle
#

Assuming the chip is ran strictly in accordance to its "usual" / normal mode with no special boosts (e.g. PBO / XFR) or all-core overclocks (e.g. MCE)

#

But you're planning to get a water cooling setup?

harsh terrace
#

Mhm

fiery nacelle
#

that's pricy rite?
(of course if you can afford a 3950x its not?)

abstract kite
#

custom wc is usualy around 500€

harsh terrace
#

Idk if I'll go custom yet or not

fiery nacelle
#

wawie

abstract kite
#

aio are kinda bastard

harsh terrace
#

Cuz the chip and Mobo are already destroying my wallet

abstract kite
#

I advice taking one of the best ventirad rather than an aio, it's cheaper and about as effective

harsh terrace
#

(and Nvidia but i have no choice)

#

Maybe...

#

Idk...

#

Doesn't Corsair have a cheap custom loop?

fiery nacelle
#

hmmm

#

maybe you'd wanna try air cooling

#

?

#

cheaper, easier, less risk

harsh terrace
#

Maybe...

fiery nacelle
#

also lowest total lifecycle costing

#

asides from not requiring a ton of maintenance (open custom loop) or inspection (custom AIO)

harsh terrace
#

Noctua's D-15 is the best, correct?

abstract kite
#

a big noctua or a darkrock pro

#

up to your choice

fiery nacelle
#

Yeah something along noctua or dark rock high ends

#

wonder how good are Be Quiet though?

abstract kite
#

dark rock vs big noctua are about the same

#

just a fan on a piece of metal you know

fiery nacelle
#

and heatpipes / vapour chambers

harsh terrace
#

Won't the tempered glass choke the air cooler tho? Idk... I plan on getting the the luxe refresh

fiery nacelle
#

not heard of that case tho

harsh terrace
#

Phanteks luxe?

#

The second one looks absolutely great

abstract kite
#

more exactly, NH-D15S is about the same as a DarkRock Pro 4

fiery nacelle
abstract kite
#

makes me remember a dumb 1600€ config I made

fiery nacelle
harsh terrace
#

No I prefer full atx cases

fiery nacelle
#

Tempered glass, RGB lighting, long GPUs, full height 160mm tower coolers

harsh terrace
#

(I'm really short, totally not compensating)

abstract kite
#
  • 1600€
  • smol form factor
  • 10Gb ethernet
  • case with handle
  • 2060
  • 4x raid 0 M2 SSD
#

the perfect LAN computer

fiery nacelle
#

you don't happen to have a first name of Isabella do you?

#

Isabella's ITX

#

rhymes

#

LOL

harsh terrace
#

Lol

fiery nacelle
#

Isabella's In-Win ITX

#

3I

harsh terrace
#

UwU

#

Nah... But I'm going with a full atx... Just because the amount of fans and hard drives I can put in it

fiery nacelle
#

just maybe no intel inside lol

#

oh you've got plenty of hard drives

abstract kite
#

the cool thing with raid 0 is that you add the capacity of your drives while also adding the bandwidth

#

in win are dumb fucks

#

almost as good as apple

#

selling you a bent sheet of aluminum for 700€

#

worst value case EVER

fiery nacelle
#

worse the In Win A1 Plus is bent steel

harsh terrace
#

lol

fiery nacelle
#

Brings me chicks though

#

like Lara Croft LOLOL

harsh terrace
#

there was a company that makes silent computers... and the whole case is one big heatsink...

fiery nacelle
#

Silverstone cases are nice

harsh terrace
#

i wonder if they sell the case separately....

fiery nacelle
#

would be expensive though

harsh terrace
#

idc... the whole thing is a heat sink

#

they dont ;-;

fleet canopy
#

I know that it's best size, but should I get 24" or 27" on 1440p

#

It still is 144hz

abstract kite
#

as I moved from laptop to desktop I found 24" way too big

#

now after 2 years it's ok but I wouldn't go bigger

fleet canopy
#

Well I was playing on a TV for 2-3 years, and played on monitors before, now I have a 22" monitor

#

And the PPI will be amazing since it's at 24"

hexed horizon
#

24 inch is comfortable

harsh terrace
#

I prefer 27 because my vision is ass

hexed horizon
#

31 inch

fleet canopy
#

No

#

And so is it just preferences on size?

hexed horizon
#

44 inch television

fleet canopy
#

Maybe

hexed horizon
#

Projektor

fleet canopy
#

4K 65"

hexed horizon
#

Projector?

fleet canopy
#

2160p

#

60Hz

hexed horizon
#

Movie theatre

fleet canopy
#

Maybe

hexed horizon
#

Gameboy color screen

#

Anyways

#

24 to 27 inch is loved by many

#

I guess If I upgrade I'll go with 24

fleet canopy
#

Guess I'll go 24"

harsh terrace
#

does anyone know any high performing cases that aren't from 2013? I can't seem to find a case thats fully built for airflow with some modern features

pallid cedar
#

chiming in late here but I would go for air cooling vs water every time
Very similar temps with a Noctua vs an AIO, and Noctua is quiter than a water pump

#

quieter*

#

the case I bought is huge, very open, and has plenty of airflow. But it's a massive full tower with 4 tempered glass panels

#

room for my 9 case fans though

#

it's a Thermaltake View 71 TG RGB

#

way too big to fit on my desk though

tight cliff
#

blueeeee

pallid cedar
#

(pls ignore my old af chair lol)

tight cliff
#

b l u e

pallid cedar
tight cliff
#

prpl

pallid cedar
#

I like some purp too lol

harsh terrace
#

i'd love to get that case

#

but im too weak to even pick it up, much less build in it

fleet canopy
#

oof

#

Looks badass nonetheless

lost iron
#

CoolerMaster masterbox if I'm not mistaken

#

They are nice cases

#

Oh wait no

#

That's a Thermaltake

harsh terrace
#

@pallid cedar it seems like the tempered glass chokes airflow, at least from what I've been seeing

pallid cedar
#

not with the 5mm spacing between the glass and the plastic

#

my case has amzing airflow

harsh terrace
#

5mm? That kills airflow

pallid cedar
#

especially with 9 fans lol

#

it really doesn't

#

my fans don't spin up above default

#

my gpu never breaks 62 degrees C, and my cpu (overclocked) only goes to 70

lost iron
#

It depends on the case

pallid cedar
#

I can easily fit my fat fingers between the glass and the plastic chassis

#

lol

#

lots of air being pulled in

lost iron
#

Some tempered glass cases are garbage but the properly thought out ones don't choke it

pallid cedar
#

this thermaltake view 71 has been specially designed to allow great airflow

#

I can't speak on the other models

lost iron
#

That's my case

#

As you can see it seems there very little room for air flow

pallid cedar
#

looks fancy

#

what is it?

lost iron
#

But the grills on the front actually allow a heap of air in, and then input 4mm spacers on the top exhaust

#

It's an Aerocool DS230

#

They are discontinued now but they were available for about 4 years

pallid cedar
#

yeah my case has 2 fans on bottom to pull air up inside, 3 on front to pull air in, 3 on top to push air out, and 1 on the back to help push air out as well

lost iron
#

Due to the generous internal size of the case I was able to mount a fan in the back panel to provide airflow over the CPU socket and back of the motherboard

#

Plus mount a 5.25" drive bay within it that is accessible from the side

pallid cedar
#

side access is a good thing, my two sides panels of glass are on hinges so they act as doors

lost iron
#

Not bad

pallid cedar
#

suuuper easy access

lost iron
#

The thing that sold me on this case is that it's got high quality sound proofing lining the insides

#

Makes a big difference

pallid cedar
#

sound prrofing is a nice touch fo4r sure

#

my case seems to dissapate sound alright, nothing special

harsh terrace
#

im still gonna try and find a mesh case

#

its way better

pallid cedar
#

I would disagree but cases are all subjective in the end, get what you like 😃

#

I would really only suggest my case if you really need the room

#

it has 2 extra HDD drive sleds that hold 4 extra HDDs, these sleds can be removed for full-sized custom water cooling, and came with 3 140mm Thermaltake Riing fans

lost iron
#

@harsh terrace why not go fully open air?

#

Or even go for a neat test bench style thing

#

Or even a CoolerMaster HAF XB EVO

#

They are real great cases

pallid cedar
#

I guess the main question is what GPU and CPU/cpu cooler will determine how ventilated your case needs to be

#

as well as how many fans are on your cooler/gpu

#

for instance, my case has 9 fans for push/pull airflow, but 3 fans on the gpu, and 2 fans on the cpu creating lots of air fluidity in the case. Very rarely is there hot air coming from my exhausts

harsh terrace
#

@lost iron i have pets, curious ones... i dont want them attacking the components

pallid cedar
#

eep. if you have pets, try as hard as you can to have a small enough case to keep it off the floor. Pet fur will block your airflow more than anything else.

harsh terrace
#

yeah... although idk if i want test bench style tho

lost iron
#

The Evo has so much airflow it may as well be open air

harsh terrace
#

eh

#

maybe

lost iron
#

There a also tower haf cases

#

Haf standards for High Air Flow

#

They are really really great cases

#

The full tower weighs a heap too

pallid cedar
#

I can attest to the weight of full towers. Mine with the extra glass is damn near 50 lbs

#

a half tower is generally all you need

#

Meshify C isn't terrible

#

my build is a bit specific with a higher end cpu and large case so I can stream and record footage, and have plenty of space for more storage than I could probably ever use haha

lost iron
#

I think the haf mid tower is like 14kg or something

#

Solid as fuck

pallid cedar
#

geez that's still a fairly hefty boi o.0

lost iron
#

It's nearly legally a 2 person lift before components

pallid cedar
#

lol my case is a 2 person lift just in it's original box and no componwnts XD

fleet canopy
#

Did I ever talk about whether 1440p would be able to run well on a 1060 3GB?

hexed horizon
#

Gtfo could possibly run in 4k with your 1060

fleet canopy
#

Well alright

hexed horizon
#

unless.. it wont

fleet canopy
#

I checked

#

Should seem fine

#

I'm not gonna go full ultra and any of that

pallid cedar
#

1440 is do-able with a 1060, but not with significant fps

#

should be able to manage 60 tweaking video options though

fleet canopy
#

I mean, I'll probably just use my 900p monitor if it can't run well on 1440p

lost iron
#

I wouldn't say gtfo 4k on a 1060

#

I also wouldn't shoot for 1440p on a 1060 3GB

#

But that's because I like my 144hz/fps nowadays

fleet canopy
#

I mean, I don't mind having to go 60Hz if it's needed

lost iron
#

I kinda feel like you're trying to run a premium car on unleaded E10 that's all

#

The 1060 line were only ever designed to be 1080p cards

#

I reckon if you were willing to put your settings on medium to low you'd probably get a stable 60

fleet canopy
#

I honestly don't mind having to do a lower graphic settings too

#

So I don't really care whether it looks like a shit looking game

dark quarry
#

Being on a 15" laptop screen, 1080p/60 is all I ask for... lol

#

Although Destiny 2 runs at around 70 most of the time on a 1050Ti

lost iron
#

So why do you want a higher resolution?

#

A higher resolution is just to improve visual appearance?

fiery nacelle
#

4K!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lost iron
#

Or are you wanting one of those jank ultrawides?

fiery nacelle
#

at 60 😦

lost iron
#

All I care is that my ppi is between 90-100 and my hz/fps is nice and stable at 144

fiery nacelle
lost iron
#

No

fiery nacelle
#

But how will you watch Steven Seagal's Letterbox 2000?

lost iron
#

Delete this

#

Most retarded idea ever

fiery nacelle
#

LOL

fleet canopy
#

Please

#

No

fiery nacelle
#

Agreeed

dark quarry
#

Not into the ultrawide monitors, Doot?

lost iron
#

There is no way you could get a decent enough PPI for that monitor and drive it

fiery nacelle
#

not the mega ultrawides

#

oh PPI isn't the problem

fleet canopy
#

And also because at this point, 2080 is gonna do pretty good on 1440p

fiery nacelle
#

its the absurdity of the idea that

lost iron
#

I can appreciate the normal ultra wides to an extent

fiery nacelle
#

you're cutting vertical view angle

lost iron
#

But honestly ultrawides don't serve much purpose to me as I prefer multiple monitors rather then subdividing one

fiery nacelle
#

If one kept a 90 degree vertical FOV, the horizontal FOV on one of those hyperwides must wrap around the sides - extreme warping

lost iron
#

I remember when ultra wides weren't stupid

#

I had a $900 wholesale 2k Ultra wide at my first job

#

It was pretty ok for work but I would have preferred 2x1080p

#

I ended up getting a software that allowed me to have windows treat the two halves of the screen as seperate

fleet canopy
#

I mean, I still got my god awful TV and the monitor

fiery nacelle
lost iron
#

I'm good for neither

#

Too much screen for this one man

fiery nacelle
#

If I wanted that hyper-ultra-super wide experience, I'd just need to take a similar priced 50" 16:9 display and letterbox it LOL

fleet canopy
#

Cool

dark quarry
#

That's a solid setup, Doot

lost iron
#

Too bad only a 580 drives it atm

#

Since my Vega died :(

#

I tell you what, I'm really sold on these AOC monitors though

#

Normally I'm not a fan of AOC but these ones are just so good

harsh terrace
#

Am i the only one who doesn't get crazy about ppi? everyone seems to want it

lost iron
#

It's a shame the AOC monitors although they have a deisgn to hide the bezelz the screen panel starts so far back

#

I'm not crazy on PPI Bella

#

I just was 90-100

pallid cedar
#

al I have currently is a curved 27" 1080p 144Hz curved screen and a 40" 60Hz tv in my setup

lost iron
#

And since I'm not going past 1080p that means I will never get a monitor larger then 24"

#

Becuase then the PPI drops below 90 and if you look closely you can see the individual pixels

fleet canopy
#

You can still get a 1440p for 24"

#

And then I saw some 1080p for like 22" or something

harsh terrace
#

So?

lost iron
#

Yeah I know you can Harold

#

If I have 90 PPI I can see no pixels thus I am a happy man

harsh terrace
#

I just got a 27" from my brother and it looks at fine

pallid cedar
#

I enjoy my 27" 1080p monitor, mostly because going from 40" to anything smaller sucks haha

harsh terrace
#

sure i can see pixels but its not a big deal

lost iron
#

Each to their own

#

I don't like being able to count them so I have 90 PPI minimum

#

But over 120-130 I actually get ill looking at the screen

#

So most 4k displays are no good to me and even some of the smaller 2k ones are no good for me

pallid cedar
#

it's mostly all about the refresh rate for me, gotta have that smooth 144fps

lost iron
#

Yeah I'm with you there, 144hz with dynamic sync

pallid cedar
#

yessir

lost iron
#

It's the dream

#

Also tbh

#

Nowadays I like my games on a curved monitor

harsh terrace
#

yo wtf

pallid cedar
#

this is my first one, the curve isn't too noticable since it's not an extra-wide, but it is a nice touch

harsh terrace
#

asus released a 0.5 ms display

#

how

fleet canopy
#

wut

pallid cedar
#

lolwut

fleet canopy
#

lemme see

pallid cedar
#

is it under 19" or something? lol

harsh terrace
#

must be something odd

#

25"

pallid cedar
#

the fu?

fleet canopy
#

Well

pallid cedar
#

crazy

fleet canopy
#

Anything else about it that's strange?

pallid cedar
#

not really necessary, but nifty nonetheless

lost iron
#

Seems strange

#

Weird flex asus

#

But ok

fiery nacelle
#

0.5 ms MPRT

pallid cedar
#

trying to cater to the ultra-hardcore pro gamer niche

#

"i JuSt GOTta HavE ThAt 0.5ms RespOnsE TimE for MuH k/d RatiO!"

fleet canopy
#

Yes

#

Except my k/d is .34

pallid cedar
#

oof

#

F

fleet canopy
#

And my accuracy is always .33

#

Once, I managed to get like 2.23

pallid cedar
#

haha in what game?

harsh terrace
#

It says 0.5 ms GTG on their website

#

must be a typo

fleet canopy
#

No

#

It's so you can say GTG in that 0.5 ms response time

pallid cedar
#

lol well then

harsh terrace
#

i wanna 240 ips ;-;

lost iron
#

Hang on

#

Have you guys seen that gamer glass meme?

harsh terrace
#

idc about a .5 ms response time

fleet canopy
#

Hmm?

lost iron
#

It's like the stupidest computer accessory since cup holders in your drive bays

fleet canopy
#

Lemme see reeeeee

pallid cedar
#

gamer glass?

#

can't say I have

lost iron
#

I will send it soon

#

Feast your eyes on the biggest waste of money

harsh terrace
#

$39.99? i'd rather buy a game

lost iron
#

It's just a fucking dot point which can centre on 16:9 screens

harsh terrace
#

wait... is this fake?

#

yeah this is fake

#

it has to be

fleet canopy
#

kek

#

If it were real, it'd be like 'Hey guys I'm a pro' Shows 0.30 K/D and shitty accuracy

#

Proceeds to increase it to 4.0 K/D and high accuracy

lost iron
#

It's real

fleet canopy
#

Oh jesus

lost iron
#

You can actually order them

harsh terrace
#

I dont believe you lol

fleet canopy
#

39.99$ for a cheat

#

Like

#

Why

#

:)

#

You can

lost iron
#

It's not even a cheat

fleet canopy
#

I know

#

But'

lost iron
#

If you can't see the middle of your screen

#

Then you shouldn't play games

harsh terrace
#

^

fleet canopy
#

Of course

#

I aim like a pro and I don't ever look at the middle of the screen

pallid cedar
#

I don't think I can face-palm hard enough

harsh terrace
#

(although my eyes lose focus so i actually cant sometimes. but that thing wouldn't help lol)

#

LOL

#

they dont even have "gamer" stuff in the ad's

#

like they use an office mouse and keyboard

fleet canopy
#

Oh

harsh terrace
#

it has to be a troll

fleet canopy
#

So it's for cough office people cough

#

Its a crutch for elders

lost iron
#

It's not even adjustable

#

So for games with lower hemisphere crosshairs it doesn't work at all

#

And they say it on the website too 😂

fleet canopy
#

kek

lost iron
#

Don't worr

#

I will speak to the Devs and make sure gtfo is gameglass compliant

harsh terrace
#

lol

lost iron
#

Gtfo spec ops edition

#

Ships with 1x game glass

#

Gtfo limited edition warden emblem etched into the top

#

Easy

#

@harsh terrace @fleet canopy @pallid cedar

fleet canopy
#

Yes

harsh terrace
#

i'd buy

fleet canopy
#

Me too

#

Gotta get it

lost iron
#

Tbh I would

#

I wouldn't buy a gameglass

#

But I would buy a Gtfo limited edition one

harsh terrace
#

i would literally buy anything else lol

lost iron
#

Lol

#

I pinned the monstrosity

hexed horizon
#

Is that real?

harsh terrace
#

yo

#

why are people buying rtx titans for gaming?

hexed horizon
#

I mean, using eye tracing for gaming sounds neat.

#

Cuz they dumb

harsh terrace
#

they run worse than 2080ti's

#

(for gaming)

hexed horizon
#

Buy the 2060, the real hero of the seriesm

fleet canopy
#

No

hexed horizon
#

Buy the gt1030 with pentium g4400 for cheap moneys

lost iron
#

@hexed horizon that thing is real yes

#

The only thing I can find that suggests it isn't real is that it's stupid

#

😂

hexed horizon
#

Hmm

#

I mean, just looking at someones head to pop them sounds awesome

lost iron
#

There's also this

#

They stopped making it becuase people spilled their drinks on their computers

#

@harsh terrace @fleet canopy

#

It's a 5.25" drive bay part

fleet canopy
#

Wow

harsh terrace
#

actually wtf

lost iron
#

That has a cigarette lighter and cup holder

#

I want one tbh becuase they are super rare

fleet canopy
#

Worse idea I've ever heard

#

While it's not bad in general, just why?

lost iron
#

Yep

fleet canopy
#

I'm gonna need a rug soon

#

Or else my chair gonna destroy precious wood floor and give me more splinters

lost iron
#

I really want to own one

fleet canopy
#

Okay

lost iron
#

If we do gtfo secret santa you guys know what to get me

fleet canopy
#

Yes

lost iron
#

I'll pay you the difference over the spend limit 😂

#

Harold have you thought about one of those hard plastic mats?

fleet canopy
#

Well

harsh terrace
#

I can't seem to find proper benchmarks for anything these days

fleet canopy
#

Last time I had one

harsh terrace
#

wth happend

fleet canopy
#

It broke

#

:)

#

I always leaned on my chair buuuut

#

Maybe i'll get another one

harsh terrace
#

This dude tested a aio cooled video card and a FE card

#

But he oc'd the card

#

So he made it look like they had the same temp

#

why?

lost iron
fleet canopy
#

Chill ree

lost iron
#

All the data is donated by people who use their bench software

#

It's about as unbiased as it gets

#

And it's all real world testing, no manufacturer numbers

harsh terrace
#

i thought they didn't do 3rd party cards tho

#

yeah they dont

#

i need a benchmark of the same card, but different cooler

#

so far i haven't seen anyone to do it properly

lost iron
#

The way it works is it averages

#

So say there 30,000 submissions for the 2070

#

It then averages the 30,000 results

#

So it's it individual cards no but it's the average result of that card sku

#

AndAndTech is good

harsh terrace
#

they dont have the card i need

lost iron
#

But they don't always get everything

harsh terrace
#

should my take away from this is that aio coolers on video cards are worthless? lol

lost iron
#

AndAndTech is good

harsh terrace
#

cuz no one seems to care about em

lost iron
#

What are you trying to find data on?

harsh terrace
#

MSI sea hawk 2080ti

lost iron
#

Tbh I'd just look for general performance of 2080 tis

#

The non reference cards often aren't much better then the base ones other then cooling

harsh terrace
#

but thats what i want to know.... How much better are they?

lost iron
#

Theres this

#

They aren't better enough to justify the price tag tbh

#

You're better off buying a custom loop kit

#

And installing it yourself

#

Or finding one that is compatible with the nzxt AIO GPU mounting frame

#

And then getting a really good AIO

harsh terrace
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that card is currently cheaper than a FE

lost iron
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Nzxt G12 I think

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Wtf

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That's retarded

fleet canopy
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Hmm

harsh terrace
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but i dont want to add a point of failure if it means nothing

lost iron
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Bella

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Maybe wait for a bit

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The Super RTX cards are on their way

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We still don't know what the range will include

fleet canopy
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Super RTX?

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Hmm

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🤔

harsh terrace
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ik

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but im sure the price and all that will be the same

fleet canopy
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'Launched in blah blah July to stay ahead of AMD'

lost iron
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The SUPER RTX cards will drop the prices of the original

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Becuase NVIDIA plan to sell them along side

fleet canopy
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So basically

dusty pumice
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Im waiting for 2020 - 2021 to buy something new and if nothing releases ill just buy the new playstation or Xbone

lost iron
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So NVIDIA are still doing the RTX 2070 and the Super RTX 2070

harsh terrace
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ik... i want a SUPER tho... god that sounds stupid lol

fleet canopy
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the cards become cheaper

lost iron
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But the RTX ones will be a fair bit cheaper then the super ones

fleet canopy
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Mmk

lost iron
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@dusty pumice your ryzen 3000 parts launch July 7th

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Get your wallet ready for abuse

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There's a 1000USD Mobo

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It's a fully liquid cooled mobo

dusty pumice
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@lost iron i know but im stil having trouble getting a good upgrade for my i7700k pc

harsh terrace
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lol im spending 250 on mine wtf

lost iron
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@dusty pumice dude

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You have no idea do you?

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The 3300 is on par with the 2700x and 8700k for performance for 99USD

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There's gonna be a 16 core 32 threat Ryzen 3000

dusty pumice
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Im not talking about that

lost iron
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For 750USD

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That hits like 5Ghz

dusty pumice
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Im talking about getting the I7700k an upgrade

lost iron
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With overclokcing

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PCIe Gen 4

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And PCIe Gen 4 NMVE storage

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Shits off the chain

harsh terrace
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You sound like an excited Mormon missionary lol

lost iron
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You said you want to burn money

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This is how you burn money correctly

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Just leave the 7700k system alone

fleet canopy
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Yes

harsh terrace
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a $1000 mobo is not how you burn money

fleet canopy
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No

lost iron
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XD

fleet canopy
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Or the 999$ Apple stand

lost iron
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It's stupid and to anyone else I wouldn't recommend it

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But grondus here needs to spend a heap of cash

harsh terrace
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y

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im spending a heck ton too.... not because i want to tho...

latent schooner
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@fleet canopy I made a tablet stand out of some wood and stained it. $5.

harsh terrace
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ez

fleet canopy
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ez

harsh terrace
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i wonder when we're gonna see them announce the super cards

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cuz now we've seen them listed

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and we have a general idea of what they are

lost iron
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We all sorta thought they would release them at E3

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Over 3000 messages here already

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10,800 messages until we have more messages then #gtfo-chat

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We can do this guys

harsh terrace
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I thought they would too

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They didn't need a release date... Just announce em damnit

lost iron
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Linus has a video about it

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I haven't watched it though

harsh terrace
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Oh? Didn't see it

lost iron
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Oh wait

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No was an old video from rtx launch

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But for some reason it's in my new videos to watch

harsh terrace
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Ah

lost iron
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So are you still looking at a 2080 ti Bella?

harsh terrace
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Unfortunately

lost iron
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What's the reasoning?

harsh terrace
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Future proof... Despite the diminishing returns

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Or well...

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I feel that if you're gonna get a top of line system... It should have the best video card... Even if it costs more than 3 months of rent

lost iron
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Ah yeah

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I see

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I am not big on having top of the line 😂

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But that's becuase I don't earn enough consistent money

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Well the scores are in

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The Ryzen 3950X beats the 9980XE quite significantly in Geekbench

harsh terrace
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I don't either... Just won a bet lol

lost iron
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And it's 1250USD cheaper

harsh terrace
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Nice

lost iron
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What kind of a bet did you win?

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Must have been a pretty significant gamble

harsh terrace
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Nope

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Not even close

lost iron
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Also holy shit

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Your rent is so cheap

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The 2080 TI SeaHawk is like $2,300 here

harsh terrace
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My mom wanted me to stop playing games for 2 months... And eh... $500/mo to continue living with my parents

lost iron
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My rent is $2,000 a month and most people expect to pay like $1,600 a month minimum

harsh terrace
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Ah... That's pricey