#pc-build-help-and-tech-talk | GTFO | Page 15

lost iron Jun 3, 2019, 1:21 PM

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Which was causing huge issues

fiery nacelle Jun 3, 2019, 1:21 PM

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Yeah exactly

harsh terrace Jun 3, 2019, 1:22 PM

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I mean... The new mobo's are great

fiery nacelle Jun 3, 2019, 1:22 PM

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oh yah

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The new X570 boardsare nice

harsh terrace Jun 3, 2019, 1:22 PM

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Can't wait to get one uwu

lost iron Jun 3, 2019, 1:22 PM

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I've got a couple of old gigabyte boards and cards

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I'd say as a rule of thumb the big three are safe.
Anything from Gigabyte, Asus or MSI are fine in my books

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EVGA is dead to me

fiery nacelle Jun 3, 2019, 1:22 PM

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My previous board, was an... Abit

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sad

lucid osprey Jun 3, 2019, 1:23 PM

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As(s)rock

lost iron Jun 3, 2019, 1:23 PM

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ASRock is Asus without the price tag

fiery nacelle Jun 3, 2019, 1:23 PM

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Asrock - hit and miss

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There will be compromises to get that kind of pricing

lucid osprey Jun 3, 2019, 1:23 PM

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a lot of asrock mobos come into our work

lost iron Jun 3, 2019, 1:23 PM

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ASRock is owned by Asus as a cheapo brand

fiery nacelle Jun 3, 2019, 1:23 PM

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I think they have spun off

harsh terrace Jun 3, 2019, 1:23 PM

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ASRock is super spotty with quality lol

fiery nacelle Jun 3, 2019, 1:23 PM

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linked via their manufacturing arm which they share

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Pegatron

lost iron Jun 3, 2019, 1:24 PM

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It's owned by astech

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Or however you say it

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Which is owned by Asus

fiery nacelle Jun 3, 2019, 1:24 PM

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@harsh terrace Yeah agree

lost iron Jun 3, 2019, 1:24 PM

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I've only owned like 3 over my years

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And so far 1 has failed

fiery nacelle Jun 3, 2019, 1:24 PM

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THAT MANY?

lost iron Jun 3, 2019, 1:24 PM

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I come into technology

harsh terrace Jun 3, 2019, 1:24 PM

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I never get em... I just don't wanna deal with it

fiery nacelle Jun 3, 2019, 1:24 PM

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The motherboards I owned can be counted by fingers on a hand LOL

lost iron Jun 3, 2019, 1:25 PM

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Like I have a pretty substantial bone yard of parts

fiery nacelle Jun 3, 2019, 1:25 PM

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oh nice

lost iron Jun 3, 2019, 1:25 PM

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The only ASRock board I have that has failed is an ITX Z97 board

fiery nacelle Jun 3, 2019, 1:25 PM

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@harsh terrace Heyyy, why not sign up to become a GTFO Ambassador?

lost iron Jun 3, 2019, 1:25 PM

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The PCI slot is fucked up

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And it won't work with a GPU

harsh terrace Jun 3, 2019, 1:25 PM

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I did

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Never got role of whatever lol

lost iron Jun 3, 2019, 1:25 PM

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Message the bot and joing the orange name

lucid osprey Jun 3, 2019, 1:26 PM

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something something dm the bot

harsh terrace Jun 3, 2019, 1:26 PM

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Eh

lost iron Jun 3, 2019, 1:26 PM

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Do it

fiery nacelle Jun 3, 2019, 1:26 PM

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yeap just direct message the GTFO bot

lucid osprey Jun 3, 2019, 1:26 PM

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eh indeed

lost iron Jun 3, 2019, 1:26 PM

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Join the orange team

harsh terrace Jun 3, 2019, 1:26 PM

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Later uwu

lost iron Jun 3, 2019, 1:26 PM

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Night guys and girls

harsh terrace Jun 3, 2019, 1:26 PM

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Idrc lol

lost iron Jun 3, 2019, 1:26 PM

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Sleepy time nap naps

fiery nacelle Jun 3, 2019, 1:26 PM

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good night guys

harsh terrace Jun 3, 2019, 1:27 PM

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Night

lost iron Jun 3, 2019, 7:59 PM

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Current proposal for Vega 20

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late sorrel Jun 3, 2019, 8:01 PM

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gotta love infinity fabric

lost iron Jun 3, 2019, 8:02 PM

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Looks like AMD is doubling down on Infinity fabric

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Such hype

chrome chasm Jun 3, 2019, 8:02 PM

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Soo.. Navi or whatever is coming is not that great after all?

lost iron Jun 3, 2019, 8:02 PM

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Navi is decent, it's just not as cheap as the original leaks suggested

late sorrel Jun 3, 2019, 8:02 PM

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That’s the big sad part

chrome chasm Jun 3, 2019, 8:03 PM

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Mid range PC spec market?

lost iron Jun 3, 2019, 8:03 PM

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Until 2020 yeah upper end of mid range

late sorrel Jun 3, 2019, 8:03 PM

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It was that, but cheaper and that was the allure for me

lost iron Jun 3, 2019, 8:03 PM

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Fucking so hype for infinity fabric

late sorrel Jun 3, 2019, 8:03 PM

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the whole “good but cheap” suckered me in

lost iron Jun 3, 2019, 8:04 PM

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In saying that though, you are looking at an RTX 2070 in performance for about 100USD less

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And it's likely they will launch a 2060 competitor too

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With higher end Navi for next year

chrome chasm Jun 3, 2019, 8:05 PM

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Not bad. Hate how the 2080 and 2080Ti are soo overpriced

lost iron Jun 3, 2019, 8:06 PM

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All NVIDIA product are overpriced

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Since like 700 series

abstract tulip Jun 3, 2019, 8:07 PM

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heck im happy i got my 1080ti for around 400 ish purphStare

lost iron Jun 3, 2019, 8:07 PM

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700 series was the last well priced hardware they released

chrome chasm Jun 3, 2019, 8:07 PM

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Because AMD was close in competition?

lost iron Jun 3, 2019, 8:07 PM

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Not really

abstract tulip Jun 3, 2019, 8:08 PM

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also rtx is still not worth the asking price of the cards, to be honest.

lost iron Jun 3, 2019, 8:08 PM

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295X would have been the last time AMD was competing with NVIDIA

chrome chasm Jun 3, 2019, 8:08 PM

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Soo it's the ''i'm better, soo pay premium''

lost iron Jun 3, 2019, 8:08 PM

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Not really

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NVIDIA is just expensive becuase they use expensive manufacturing methods and have high PCB failure rate

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Same thing with Intel

chrome chasm Jun 3, 2019, 8:09 PM

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Care to explain what PCB failure rate is?

lost iron Jun 3, 2019, 8:10 PM

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At the end of the day NVIDIA currently still outdoes AMD and it's quite possible they will continue

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So when you manufacture a PCB you have what's called a reasonable range of quality

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Things like clock speeds, bad modules power draw, etc

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All these things need to fall into the "acceptable range"

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If they don't they binnthe card

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To scrap and start over

chrome chasm Jun 3, 2019, 8:11 PM

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Like how 2 CPU 7700k . One you can push the OC higher than the other?

lost iron Jun 3, 2019, 8:15 PM

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Kind of

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It's to do with that but not that

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Silicone lottery

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If you google that you will understand, some parts are better then others, they are often sold as premium lines but all have to meet a certain baseline to be sold

abstract tulip Jun 3, 2019, 8:23 PM

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lets not forget the rtx failure shitstorm that was,

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lul

lost iron Jun 3, 2019, 8:28 PM

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Yeah

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Then there is that too

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They need to recoup costs on failed components from RMAs

chrome chasm Jun 3, 2019, 8:33 PM

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I'm still confuse about what happened to Volta and the skip to turing XD

late sorrel Jun 3, 2019, 8:43 PM

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Volta is their more expensive range right?

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Like Titan V and up

modern yew Jun 3, 2019, 8:51 PM

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Volta is a microarchitecture made by nvidia.

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Titan V is their flagship card based off Volta and yeah I think it's their most expensive card currently.

late sorrel Jun 3, 2019, 8:54 PM

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Yeah, then that’s really not for gaming then.

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Those are for the more “let’s render a skyscraper” kinda shit.

lost iron Jun 3, 2019, 8:59 PM

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There's also NVIDIA Tesla if I recall

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Which is for machine learning and super computing applications

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Also did any of you guys notice the Vega 20 PCB didn't have any power connectors

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So 475w supplied via new type of PCI slot

late sorrel Jun 3, 2019, 9:03 PM

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That’s what I assumed the other thing was for

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The two on the top for connectivity, and the four ont he bottom for power

lost iron Jun 3, 2019, 9:04 PM

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I was guessing those are crossfire links

late sorrel Jun 3, 2019, 9:04 PM

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Crossfire links?

lost iron Jun 3, 2019, 9:04 PM

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That's what the multigpu name is for AMD

late sorrel Jun 3, 2019, 9:05 PM

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Yeah but the “links” part I don’t get

lost iron Jun 3, 2019, 9:05 PM

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Also outside of that I imagine it will require a new type of motherboard to support the card

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So potentially some AMD OEM boards for Vega 20

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I'd assume only threadripper boards too

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As a consumer am4 board won't be able to support that monster

late sorrel Jun 3, 2019, 9:07 PM

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Considering it’s probably going to be pretty powerful, I see why they’d need that for the crossfire links

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I wasn’t aware you had to link the cards

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Oh and anyway it tells the wattage on the power thing

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The one on the left says “up to 470 watts of power”

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Missed that bit

lost iron Jun 3, 2019, 10:13 PM

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Nah you don't link the cards with that adaptor

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The cards are linked via infinity fabric

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The crossfire link is to run 2x Vega 20

lost iron Jun 3, 2019, 10:29 PM

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There's 2 links on the card becuase there is 2 chips and in multi GPU setups you need a link between each chip

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Hence infinity fabric between the PCBs and the crossfire links between the cards

late sorrel Jun 3, 2019, 10:34 PM

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I meant the crossfire links

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I wasn’t aware you had to have them

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I thought it was just a “is it supported by your mobo” kinda thing

lost iron Jun 3, 2019, 10:53 PM

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I think some mobos allow for it yeah

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But you still get the link bridges with a lot of mobos

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As far as I'm aware the bridge is better then the Mobo thing

pallid cedar Jun 4, 2019, 3:06 AM

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RTX was a shitstorm? oof news to me, I have an ASUS ROG STRIX Gaming OC RTX 2060 :/ no issues whatsoever yet, owned it for about 3 months so far

lucid osprey Jun 4, 2019, 3:12 AM

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Huh

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It was a huge shitshow

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All Jensen Huang, the CEO of Nvidia, had to really say about rtx was "it just works"

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Its still something like only 3 games support using nvidia's RT cores

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~~plus a few 2080tis were bursting into flames~~

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 3:17 AM

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"The more you buy, the more you save"

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Why buy an RTX 2060 when you can save more by buying the RTX 2080 Ti

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 4:23 AM

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If you turn rtx on its a shitstorm

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Which is funny becuase that's the reason they exist

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Plus their price to performance is way inflated on previous generations

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There's also two skus of most 20 series cards

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High quality bin and low quality bin

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Which is shit becuase you can't really tell until you buy it and see the part numbers

late sorrel Jun 4, 2019, 4:24 AM

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how do you feel about the 1k apple monitor stand

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 4:24 AM

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Sounds like a high quality meme

late sorrel Jun 4, 2019, 4:24 AM

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Also there’s one hell of a monitor they’ve come out with

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It’s like 5k for a 6k screen

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hell, am I buying pixels

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 4:27 AM

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That's pretty pointless

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Unless it's like 40 inches or something?

graceful hawk Jun 4, 2019, 4:27 AM

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i mean, if you're looking for performance and gaming why buy apple at all

late sorrel Jun 4, 2019, 4:28 AM

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It’s regularly sized

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32inches

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A little over the regular

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6k for the monitor and the stand

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Oh wait, don’t forget the mount adaptor

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Oh wait you are buying pixels then

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 5:02 AM

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Better get an IPS 4k@144Hz with adaptive sync monitor?

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 5:33 AM

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At 32 inches that PPI is beyond insane

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Personally I'm happy with anything over 90

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I actually get sick looking at the screen if it's over 130

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 6:20 AM

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DPI scaling might help?

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 6:22 AM

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DPI scaling is pointless

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because why have high DPI and then just scale it down?

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 7:24 AM

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Anyone see the cheese grater Apple announced?

hexed horizon Jun 4, 2019, 7:33 AM

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Wut

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 7:44 AM

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Yeah

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I said the same thing @harsh terrace

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XD

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 7:44 AM

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lol

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if It isn't horribly overpriced it'd be cool

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 7:45 AM

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That was like 9 hours ago XD

halcyon raven Jun 4, 2019, 7:47 AM

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Xeon, better i5 or i7

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 7:47 AM

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An 8 core xeon

sick reef Jun 4, 2019, 7:47 AM

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You could build something better than that for cheaper, even work stations

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shrug

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 7:47 AM

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so I cant imagine it being too good tbh

sick reef Jun 4, 2019, 7:48 AM

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5999$? That's more than what my PC cost.

halcyon raven Jun 4, 2019, 7:48 AM

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5999 dollars, more or less 6200 euros

hexed horizon Jun 4, 2019, 7:48 AM

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flexing

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 7:48 AM

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Not even slightly worth

sick reef Jun 4, 2019, 7:49 AM

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So it's a server PC, but you have to use MAC OS?

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 7:49 AM

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6K? jesus

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nvm lol

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 7:49 AM

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Xeon doesnt mean server though

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 7:49 AM

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it sucks

hexed horizon Jun 4, 2019, 7:49 AM

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cheese grater

sick reef Jun 4, 2019, 7:49 AM

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No, but in general

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 7:49 AM

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A lot of workstations use Xeons

sick reef Jun 4, 2019, 7:49 AM

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Price

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Size

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I assume that's what their target market is.

halcyon raven Jun 4, 2019, 7:50 AM

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For 800 euros i find a pc all made with premium components of AMD’s technology

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 7:51 AM

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No Apple logo tho

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Haha

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 7:51 AM

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My system cost me a lot more tbh

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feelsbad

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 7:51 AM

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What

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More than 6k USD?

sick reef Jun 4, 2019, 7:51 AM

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Well, my PC cost around 4500-5000 euro, and it is likely better in every way to this, and even that has redundancy.

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 7:51 AM

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I mean my Xeon second hand costs 700AUD

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 7:52 AM

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What do you guys stuff in there to get 5k euros?

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 7:52 AM

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off topic... but since ddr5 is nearing in the next year or two, would it be wise to go 4000+ mhz? its getting a lot cheaper

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 7:52 AM

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4x Radeon Instincts?

sick reef Jun 4, 2019, 7:52 AM

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1200 CPU.

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And high end parts for everything.

halcyon raven Jun 4, 2019, 7:52 AM

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I have ddr3 on my rig 😉😉

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 7:52 AM

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No practical application for the average end user

sick reef Jun 4, 2019, 7:52 AM

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^

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 7:53 AM

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@sick reef computer simulations?

sick reef Jun 4, 2019, 7:53 AM

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But mostly for sake of redundancy.

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 7:53 AM

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@halcyon raven me too, 8GB of 1333mhz lol

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 7:53 AM

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Honestly 4Ghz RAM is about as useful as strapping a jet engine to a bicycle

halcyon raven Jun 4, 2019, 7:53 AM

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I have to change my pc but 1000 euros are too much in this period for me (and year)

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Me 12 1066

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 7:53 AM

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@halcyon raven what's your exisiting specs?

sick reef Jun 4, 2019, 7:54 AM

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Fast RAM is is great, up until like 3GHz for DDR4, in practical user situations.

hexed horizon Jun 4, 2019, 7:54 AM

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yall got random access memory in yur computers

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wow!

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 7:54 AM

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Yeah... but ddr4 is dropping fast anyways

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im able to pick it up for the relatively the same price

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might as well, right?

halcyon raven Jun 4, 2019, 7:55 AM

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I7 930 2.8, gtx 750 ti, 12 gb ram, a liquid Cooler, P6x 58 d premium (motherboard) and 950 w how power supply built by Corsair

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@fiery nacelle

sick reef Jun 4, 2019, 7:56 AM

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Yeah

halcyon raven Jun 4, 2019, 7:56 AM

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And you

sick reef Jun 4, 2019, 7:56 AM

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If you can get good stuff cheap, go for it.

halcyon raven Jun 4, 2019, 7:56 AM

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If i can 😂😂😂

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 7:56 AM

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@harsh terrace If I were you Id grab some low CAS 3200Mhz DDR4

halcyon raven Jun 4, 2019, 7:57 AM

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For now i can play what i want so i am happy with this 10 years old rig 😂

sick reef Jun 4, 2019, 7:57 AM

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950W PSU?

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 7:57 AM

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like... 3600mhz is the same price with the same latency

halcyon raven Jun 4, 2019, 7:57 AM

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Yeah

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I dont know why LOL

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 7:58 AM

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and 4000 mhz has a bit more latency but its only $20 more

sick reef Jun 4, 2019, 7:58 AM

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Quite an oversize for that rig.

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 7:58 AM

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CAS timings

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CAS is important

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 7:58 AM

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ik

halcyon raven Jun 4, 2019, 7:58 AM

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yeah i know tell you to my father @sick reef 😂😂😂

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Buuttttt

sick reef Jun 4, 2019, 7:59 AM

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It's better than undersized

halcyon raven Jun 4, 2019, 8:00 AM

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Of course

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 8:00 AM

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Bella if you can get low CAS 3600 then do it

halcyon raven Jun 4, 2019, 8:01 AM

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Buuutt do we know something when we can play the game like amba?

sick reef Jun 4, 2019, 8:02 AM

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Obviously,me and my 1300W, but I was planning for a double 1080Ti. And I might actually be able to max the 1300W with a very overclocked 2080 Ti.

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 8:02 AM

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1300? nah

hexed horizon Jun 4, 2019, 8:02 AM

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fellas

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is it possible to use 4 GT1030 is SLI ?

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 8:02 AM

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2080 ti's aren't that hungry oc'd

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 8:03 AM

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@halcyon raven ouch that is due for an upgrade

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 8:03 AM

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maybe like 900-1000 at most

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 8:03 AM

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My system is nice:
Xeon e5-1680v2 (8c | 16t) OC'd at 4.4Ghz
32GB DDR3 2400Mhz 11-13-13-31 (DDR3)
Asus Rog Rampage IV Gene X79 (wanted the maximus but stock was never around)
RX 580 (was a Vega 64 big sad)
Silverstone Strider 850w Plat full modular

hexed horizon Jun 4, 2019, 8:03 AM

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lmao ddr3 (grandpa style)

halcyon raven Jun 4, 2019, 8:03 AM

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Good

sick reef Jun 4, 2019, 8:04 AM

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Yeah, but now, an fully overclocked 7940X, with high energy consumption fans, and water system, as well as a fully overclocked 2080 Ti. It might get there.

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Fans and stuff are not as impactful, but the CPU could pull quite a lot

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 8:06 AM

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@halcyon raven I have an i7-2600 on a Gigabyte H77M-D3H paired with 2x4GB DDR3-1600 (running at 1333) and an MSI RX 480 Gaming X 8GB, also have 2x500GB SSDs and 2x1TB WD Blue HDDs

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 8:06 AM

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mfw i wanna spend $300 on fans but i realize it wont matter because most cases hate airflow

sick reef Jun 4, 2019, 8:06 AM

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Well, get push/pull fans.

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Or if that is what they are called.

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 8:07 AM

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@lost iron All this needs is a Navi card that can match the RTX 2080...

sick reef Jun 4, 2019, 8:07 AM

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I run 4 AFB1212HE Delta's, and a NMB 4716K.

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 8:07 AM

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Your system I mean

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@sick reef you're running server grade setup?

sick reef Jun 4, 2019, 8:07 AM

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My insides are a cluttered disaster, but it doesn't matter much.

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Yeah

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 8:08 AM

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i wanna get noctuas that run 3000 rpm

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 8:08 AM

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Yeah that sweet sweet Navi card will make my system great again

sick reef Jun 4, 2019, 8:08 AM

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The only issue I have is ambient in my room, as it has no airflow.

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 8:08 AM

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Noise must be a lot unless it's kept in its separate room...

sick reef Jun 4, 2019, 8:08 AM

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Delta's are better than noctuas.

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It's not too much.

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I'm used to the GPU fan running 100%, and the noise, and volume, was way worse.

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 8:09 AM

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@lost iron a Navi at RTX 2080 performance is really only the next worthwhile upgrade for our Polaris cards. Anything less will be... boring

sick reef Jun 4, 2019, 8:09 AM

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At high-rpm, obviously, delta's are better, and produce less noise.

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For lower than 2000, there are more alternatives

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But server fans beat anything above that.

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 8:10 AM

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im used to my laptops coil whine, so i wont mind the fans all that much

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 8:10 AM

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As long as its better then my Vega 64 was its a worthwhile upgrade

sick reef Jun 4, 2019, 8:11 AM

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I have had 4 Noctua 2k rpm, and my delta's make less, and softer, noise than them on my new setup.

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 8:11 AM

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now to decide once I get that card, do I buy a third AOC monitor and span over the 3 screens XD

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 8:12 AM

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I doubt we'll see a navi gpu thats on par with a 2080 this year

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 8:12 AM

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@halcyon raven Hmmm, if you can take your CPU to say 3.2 to 3.6GHz, then slap on a cheap RX 570...

sick reef Jun 4, 2019, 8:12 AM

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580 can be cheaper

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Nitro+ with samsung memory.

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 8:12 AM

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@harsh terrace yeah sadly Big Navi debut would be next year only haha

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 8:13 AM

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yeah... it sucks... ryzen 3 doesnt tho lol

sick reef Jun 4, 2019, 8:13 AM

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And for gaming, I have not noticed it affects performance.

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 8:15 AM

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I wonder if AMD will debut a new socket and DDR5 next year with Zen 3 (Ryzen 4000)

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 8:15 AM

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Ryzen 2+ or 3000 whichever it was called

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is sexy as hell

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no scope for DDR5 boards on AM4 yet

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Id say youre waiting till like next year

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 8:16 AM

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My locked i7 is already single threadedly bottlenecked by quite a few titles

sick reef Jun 4, 2019, 8:16 AM

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Compromises were made. But the fans still enable good throughflow here.

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halcyon raven Jun 4, 2019, 8:16 AM

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@fiery nacelle i don't want overclock anithing

sick reef Jun 4, 2019, 8:17 AM

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So push/pull can work

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 8:17 AM

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@halcyon raven any reason you'd not want to try some overclocking?

sick reef Jun 4, 2019, 8:17 AM

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Don't be scared of a small overclock.

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 8:18 AM

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i dont like we'll see ddr5 for consumers until late 2020

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 8:18 AM

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It adds risk tbh

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 8:18 AM

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and post videos of your hardware burning to this discord *

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 8:18 AM

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I dont recommend everyone to overclock

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 8:18 AM

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Lol

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@lost iron not even a tiny wee lil bit?

sick reef Jun 4, 2019, 8:18 AM

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A small overclock, assuming motherboard isn't trash, isn't too dangerous.

halcyon raven Jun 4, 2019, 8:19 AM

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first i don't know how to do, second i have to clean my pc by the dust and third after 10 years of cpu i am scared that this tell me "bye bye" LOL

sick reef Jun 4, 2019, 8:19 AM

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Heh

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Maybe you're right.

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 8:19 AM

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@halcyon raven wouldn't that be a reason "oh I need a new system"

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It is like 9 years old already right?

halcyon raven Jun 4, 2019, 8:20 AM

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if i overclocked my cpu no, i buy a new graphic card (1060 6gb) and i will happy

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yeah

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 8:20 AM

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Go for RX 570/580 haha

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 8:21 AM

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Well tbh overclocking comes with risk and I dont think the average non computer savy person should take it

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if your cooling is up to the task then sure

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but you need to know what youre doing

halcyon raven Jun 4, 2019, 8:21 AM

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this pc is balanced, so no my father won't buy a new graphic card, when there will be money to do something, i will buy a new powerful pc 😉

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but for now i can play everything that i want 😉

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 8:21 AM

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Silvo wait for Ryzen 3000

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the 3300 is beast and dirt cheap

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its the weakest of the line but comparatively to whats around now its really good

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 8:22 AM

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it certainly beats what intel has at that price point

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 8:23 AM

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its nearly a 2700x for 99USD

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 8:23 AM

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@halcyon raven ah I see, got it now

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 8:23 AM

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it shits on current gen tech

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 8:23 AM

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But do clean off all that dust though

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 8:23 AM

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oh? @lost iron

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 8:23 AM

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@lost iron surely you mean the 3600?

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 8:24 AM

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Not from what Ive been hearing/reading

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My personal speculation is the 3600 is the 2700x

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but its still only 199USD

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 8:24 AM

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the 2700x is good... but not the best for gaming though... supposedly the 3600 has better single core performance

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 8:25 AM

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the 2700x is as good as a 8700k

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its fantastic for games

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 8:25 AM

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not single core wise lol

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 8:25 AM

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Im talking real world performance here

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 8:25 AM

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that is real world performance?

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 8:25 AM

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its like within 10% of the 8700k

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for gaming

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 8:25 AM

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depends...

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 8:25 AM

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but beats it in workstation

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 8:26 AM

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At base clocks for both

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 8:26 AM

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yeah

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https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-8700K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-2700X/3937vs3958

UserBenchmark: AMD Ryzen 7 2700X vs Intel Core i7-8700K

Based on 403,535 user benchmarks for the AMD Ryzen 7 2700X and the Intel Core i7-8700K, we rank them both on effective speed and value for money against the best 1,159 CPUs.

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 8:26 AM

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like... R6S and CSGO suck with ryzen

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 8:26 AM

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Since the average user doesn't take their i7 8700k to the fabled all-core 4.8 GHz for example

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 8:26 AM

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I have several friends with a 2700X and I can assure you that its amazing for games

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the trick is pairing it with high speed RAM

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 8:27 AM

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So at stock clocks, a 10% single threaded performance gap between 2700x and i7 8700k in gaming only is fair

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 8:27 AM

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Ryzen gets up to a 14% performance increase from fast low cas RAM

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 8:27 AM

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16% for single

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 8:27 AM

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without overclocking the chip itself

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 8:27 AM

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not 10%

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 8:27 AM

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@lost iron Hopefully Zen 2 can reduce the IF dependence on RAM

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 8:27 AM

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Im talking overall

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Also please present to me a game that uses all of what an 8700k or 2700X has to offer

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so far the only one in existence is Hunt showdown with chewed up 70% of both last year

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 8:28 AM

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unlikely, zen 2 looks like it needs good ram

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 8:28 AM

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Performance is relative and subjective

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 8:28 AM

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@harsh terrace yes admittedly in some latency sensitive games but not all though

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CS GO

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PUBG

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Among others

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 8:29 AM

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Like I am yet to find a game that bottlenecks a 2700X

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PUBG does not

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PUBG couldnt even smash my 4820k

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at base speed

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 8:29 AM

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Depends on the card and resolution I guess?

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 8:29 AM

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GPUs play more into most video games then people think

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 8:29 AM

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Where an i7-8700k shines is at lower resolutions on very high refresh rates

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 8:29 AM

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Like dont get me wrong a slow CPU will bottleneck the hell out of your game

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 8:30 AM

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E.g. 1080p at 144 or even the newfangled 240Hz monitors

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UNPATCHED LOLOLOL

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Wonder what all these security flaw BIOS updates and windows patches will do

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I'll tell you what it does, it's going to turn Silvio's i7 930 into a Core 2 Quad Q9650 - lol

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(Assuming hyperthreading has to be turned off)

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 8:33 AM

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We also cant forget the innate security flaw built into Intel chips

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which Intel still havent fixed

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They still build it into the CPUs

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 8:34 AM

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Innate security flaw? You mean cheating and taking shortcuts to gain some competitive performance advantage?

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Wink

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 8:34 AM

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lol

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 8:34 AM

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Volkswagen diesel wink

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Wink

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Isn't it true the Windows patches cannot ever truly close those security flaws, only mitigate them partially somewhat

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 8:36 AM

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yep

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its a hardware secuirty flaw

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 8:36 AM

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Dang my i7-2600

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 8:36 AM

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it allows people to get into the CPU and watch everything

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 8:36 AM

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Giga won't even issue a BIOS / UEFI update for the flaws

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 8:36 AM

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also you can embed a virus into XP era intel chips CPU cache

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But apparently that isnt a problem anymore

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its restricted to only 32 bit CPUS

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 8:37 AM

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It's only a matter of time before these side channel attacks are manipulated

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 8:37 AM

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Luckily our friends at AMD were aware of these flaws in CPU manufacturing and unlike Intel redesigned their CPU architecture to prevent it

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and then if that wasnt enough they launched the Pro line of chips which have even more security built in

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 8:38 AM

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I have proof of 2700x beating the 8700k but cannot post it here

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 8:38 AM

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Dont get me wrong I am completely impartial to Intel or AMD, I go where the value is and tbh Im gonna rock this sexy Xeon from 2014 until it dies

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What is it Sam?

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images are allowed here

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and videos

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all media that is PC and technology adjacent is allowed here

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 8:39 AM

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i prefer who fucks me over less

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 8:39 AM

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Hm maybe that one was best in media XD

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 8:39 AM

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there should never be any fanboys about hardware

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 8:40 AM

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LOL just posted something in media and memes

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 8:40 AM

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Bella atm AMD has your back tbh

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high end and low end

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well when 3000 comes

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their high end tops the 9980XE

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 8:40 AM

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im getting ryzen 3 as soon as i can lol

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 8:40 AM

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and their low end is affordable and matches the more recent i7's

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 8:40 AM

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i wish they announced the 16 core tho

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 8:40 AM

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tbh this chat is better then #general

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XD

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Bella its coming

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16 cores and 32 threads will be on AM4

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 8:41 AM

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ik

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 8:41 AM

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@harsh terrace we could wait for Zen 4, I'm thinking of ddr5 and pcie 5

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 8:41 AM

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its going to be delayed a touch

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 8:41 AM

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dude i wish

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but i need a new computer asap

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 8:41 AM

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I dont believe PCIe 5 is in the near future

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We havent even made PCIe 4 mainstream yet

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 8:42 AM

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PCIe 5 in 2020 for Threadripper i think

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i could be wrong

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 8:42 AM

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I mean its possible

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 8:42 AM

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intel has it coming in 2020 too

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 8:42 AM

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but I dont see why its coming tbh

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Whats the point of releasing PCI 4 if 5 is just around the corner

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 8:42 AM

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but idrc about PCIe 5... i would prefer ddr5 to come out faster

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 8:43 AM

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Right so I forgot PCI 4 has been around since 2013

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but it just never hit the market

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 8:43 AM

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@harsh terrace what happened to your exisiting setup?

sick reef Jun 4, 2019, 8:43 AM

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Kind of like the laser was, once upon a time, so is PCIe 5 and DDR4 a solution seeking a problem.

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 8:44 AM

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@fiery nacelle im using a decent laptop cuz my desktop decided to kill itself

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 8:44 AM

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I wouldnt be surprised if PCI 5 is completed but still 5 years away from consumer availability XD

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Considering how long its taken to get PCI 4 out properly

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 8:44 AM

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psu blew up and lost my mobo

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 8:45 AM

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Did you see the Vega 20 Bella?

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 8:45 AM

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@harsh terrace that nice server setup died?

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 8:45 AM

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hm?

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 8:45 AM

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Oh man

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PSU issues

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I gather the mobo is either difficult or not worth to replace

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 8:45 AM

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i had a 970 and i7 4790k lol

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 8:46 AM

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It has a weird double PCI slot

sick reef Jun 4, 2019, 8:46 AM

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I only get high quality PSU's. Don't want to fry my entire build just because I cheap out

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 8:46 AM

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Vega 20?

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no i haven't

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 8:46 AM

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And the back slot delivers 475w of power

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Scroll up a little or search for "crossfire link"

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It will show up

sweet talon Jun 4, 2019, 8:47 AM

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pepeboli

📎 unknown.png

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 8:47 AM

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no power connector wtf lol

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thats wild

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watch it fry mobo's lol

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 8:48 AM

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It will need a special mobo

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My guess is a proprietary AMD manufactured threadripper board

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 8:49 AM

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@sick reef my psu was titanium certified

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idk what happend lol

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 8:49 AM

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Becuase there's no way board partners will dump the extra money and resources on a special.slot that only.works for.one.GPU

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Bella the titanium certification is sadly a reflection of its power efficiency more then it's durability

sick reef Jun 4, 2019, 8:50 AM

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Ye

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Titanium is only power efficiency

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 8:50 AM

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im aware... but usually companys put the most effort there for reputation

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 8:50 AM

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Technically the certification goes mean it should hold up better when running hot though

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If you want a safe PSU find either a seasonic or a rebadged seasonic

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 8:50 AM

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it was seasonic

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 8:50 AM

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Huh

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Did you RMA it?

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 8:51 AM

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of course... its why im not buying a new psu lol

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 8:51 AM

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Haha ok that's good

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See if they will compensate you for damages to your PC smart

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 8:51 AM

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@sweet talon oh man that cannot even run Apex Legends

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 8:51 AM

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nah... they wouldn't

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 8:51 AM

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Try

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 8:51 AM

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i did

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 8:51 AM

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Their product broke your shit

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Oh lame

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 8:52 AM

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Lightning strike?

sick reef Jun 4, 2019, 8:52 AM

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My EVGA T2 850W survived bad powerfeed, and is still kicking.

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But the 1300 I'm running now is Antec

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 8:53 AM

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I'm surprised, Seasonic should have been the best of the best

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Are they stillM

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?

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Having said that I'm running on a cheap FSP unit LOL

sick reef Jun 4, 2019, 8:54 AM

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When I researched PSU, I didn't see too much good about seasonic.

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Was about to get one, but switched.

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 8:55 AM

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i mean... im i was just unlucky i guess

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cuz i dont see any other 12 year warranty's

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 8:56 AM

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Seasonic units tend to get excellent reviews from like JonnyGuru, Hardware Secrets, etc

sick reef Jun 4, 2019, 8:56 AM

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Yeah, but what I found was that some of them just straight up failed.

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 8:56 AM

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I think but can't confirm that Toms Hardware, Anandtech and HardOCP do review these PSUs from time to time

sick reef Jun 4, 2019, 8:56 AM

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Like Bella's.

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 8:56 AM

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@sick reef some? Oh man

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 8:57 AM

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some is too many lol

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 8:57 AM

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They do charge a lot for their PSUs

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 8:57 AM

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Seasonic is super premium

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I can't believe yours died so bad

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Feelsbadman

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 8:57 AM

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yeah

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it sucks

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 8:57 AM

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Or girl

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 8:57 AM

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FSP and Silverstone are my go-tos for cheap reliable (for the price) psus

sick reef Jun 4, 2019, 8:57 AM

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I guess it correlates with my findings.

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 8:57 AM

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Silverstone are nice

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I trust Silverstone

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 8:57 AM

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buy hey... im getting a $5000 system out of it

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They dont even have power switches?

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that scares me

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 8:58 AM

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That costs more than both my cars I used to drive LOL

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 8:58 AM

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yeah

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 8:58 AM

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Combined

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Haha

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 8:58 AM

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it costs more than mine too lol

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i won a bet with my mom tho... so im not paying for it

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 8:59 AM

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I take it you're into serious computing stuff?

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Particle simulations and the like?

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Video compositing, aftereffects...

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 9:00 AM

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i guess? the computer itself only costs like $3000

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its the monitor and stuff that cost so much

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and it'd really be like $2500 if the damn rtx cards weren't so damn expensive

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 9:01 AM

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Oh if it's for work by all means it's money well spent so no worries

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 9:02 AM

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i guess... i think the mointors are most expensive and it sucks...

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 9:02 AM

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4k 144Hz IPS?

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But that one would cost like 3k USD alone

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 9:03 AM

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nope, 1x 1440p 144hz IPS 10-bit, 1x 240hz, and a drawing tablet

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The drawing tablet is unreasonably expensive lol

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 9:05 AM

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True those aren't really mass production stuff

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Caters for a limited segment of the market and carries a premium because professionals need it

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 9:06 AM

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1k for a 21 inch screen thats barely 250 nits?

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sorry

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1.4K

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Thats unreasonable

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im sure there's alternatives tho

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 9:10 AM

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Wacom yeah

sick reef Jun 4, 2019, 9:10 AM

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I bought my monitor 4-5 years ago for 700 and it's still around that price, and that is a bit amusing.

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 9:10 AM

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That is wacom lol @fiery nacelle

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what monitor? jesus

sick reef Jun 4, 2019, 9:11 AM

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Dell Gaming S2716DG

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144hz g-sync 1440p.

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 9:11 AM

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Gsync TN 1080p 144?

sick reef Jun 4, 2019, 9:12 AM

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1440p. This was when the consumer side was somewhat new for 1440/144 gsync.

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 9:12 AM

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TN?

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ew

sick reef Jun 4, 2019, 9:12 AM

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Yeah. Lowest delay on the market, almost even still.

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Average delay, obviously

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 9:13 AM

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as long as its below 6ms who cares?

sick reef Jun 4, 2019, 9:13 AM

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But some IPS screens catched up, to an acceptable standard.

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Well, back then, I could have gotten the 6-8ms IPS 1440p 144Hz, gsync.

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For 1.4k

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 9:13 AM

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jesus

sick reef Jun 4, 2019, 9:14 AM

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Or the 4k 120hz ips for 2.5k

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 9:14 AM

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the one im getting is like $600 and its 1ms

sick reef Jun 4, 2019, 9:14 AM

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TN then?

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 9:14 AM

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ips

sick reef Jun 4, 2019, 9:14 AM

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Hm

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Which one is that?

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 9:15 AM

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the only monitor gigabyte sells

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although im sure its not true 1ms

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thats too many pixels lol

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 9:16 AM

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Gigabyte monitors?

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Oh

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It's just odd how broad traditional PC component manufacturers are diversifying these days

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 9:17 AM

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yeah

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corsair made an open loop system

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 9:17 AM

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Next we'll get a Logitech motherboard and a Hyper X GPU LOL

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To pair with a Gigabyte mouse and Asus RAM

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Double irony

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 9:18 AM

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theres a rumor samsung wants to get into the gaming scene

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 9:18 AM

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Man so many of em

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 9:18 AM

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imagine seeing a samsung mobo or case

sick reef Jun 4, 2019, 9:18 AM

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Around 10ms g2g. Still impressive.

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 9:19 AM

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Not surprised, gaming will eventually overtake all other forms of entertainment rite

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 9:19 AM

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Ah... thanks for doing the research @sick reef

sick reef Jun 4, 2019, 9:19 AM

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Without noticeable overshoot*

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 9:19 AM

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thats pretty great

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10 bit color too

sick reef Jun 4, 2019, 9:20 AM

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If overshoot is acceptable, then 5.6ms. Not for me, but maybe for some.

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 9:21 AM

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I imagine @sick reef doesn't think too highly of VA panels and their transitions lol

sick reef Jun 4, 2019, 9:21 AM

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No

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 9:21 AM

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Purple smearing

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Ah ha ha ha

sick reef Jun 4, 2019, 9:21 AM

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Efficiency is absolutely key to me.

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 9:21 AM

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i mean... im it using for cinematic games and color accuracy... so

sick reef Jun 4, 2019, 9:21 AM

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Colours can be sub-par, or anything. Just show me what you got as fast as possible.

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 9:21 AM

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VA panels are inky black with plenty of pop though

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 9:21 AM

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depends on the quality of the panel

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i've seen some VA's look awful

sick reef Jun 4, 2019, 9:22 AM

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Well, you'd want the fast ms for reaction, but overshoot means it might be the wrong colour, or look off, etc.

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So it's like high frequency rams. Terrible timings.

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 9:23 AM

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Overshoot cause they are overdriving the monitors to compensate for poor pixel transition times

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 9:23 AM

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maybe... its not gonna be my main monitor for anything really

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cuz i already have something for art, and for gaming

sick reef Jun 4, 2019, 9:23 AM

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You should just go with balanced setting. 10ms is good enough.

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 9:23 AM

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yeah

sick reef Jun 4, 2019, 9:23 AM

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And low chance of overshoot.

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 9:24 AM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 9:25 AM

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My monitor is 60Hz only lol

sick reef Jun 4, 2019, 9:26 AM

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I also had a PG287Q, but it gave me odd issues.

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 9:26 AM

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my laptop is 144hz 17 ms

sick reef Jun 4, 2019, 9:26 AM

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Okay for a laptop.

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 9:26 AM

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im not complaining

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 9:26 AM

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Shouldn't it be 6.9 ms for 144Hz?

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Unless if you meant 17ms input latency

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 9:27 AM

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17ms gtg

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25ms b2w

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 9:27 AM

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144Hz?

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Hmmm, that is pretty slow pixel transition times for a 75 Hz panel

sick reef Jun 4, 2019, 9:29 AM

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Input latency is a whole other can of worms.

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 9:29 AM

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yeah... i can't even test it

sick reef Jun 4, 2019, 9:29 AM

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Depends on everything in your rig.

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 9:29 AM

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I mean yeah taking pixel transition = 1 / panel refresh rate

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60 Hz = 16.67 ms

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Technically the pixels individual transition times for certain colours / scenarios can exceed that

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When that happens you'll see ghosting / trailing / smearing / shimmering

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 9:31 AM

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this panel has a ton of smearing lol

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 9:31 AM

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Ah that explains haha

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 9:31 AM

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i might as well have a 60 hz

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 9:31 AM

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Could be a VA or older IPS

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 9:31 AM

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cuz i dont see anything... its like motion blur

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 9:32 AM

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If you set it to 60, the smearing relative to motion might be less?

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 9:32 AM

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maybe

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i'll try

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i oc'd to 154hz and it had less smearing

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 9:33 AM

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Colours - Contrast - Speed - Price > more of one less of the other

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 9:34 AM

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or pay $2,000+ lol

sick reef Jun 4, 2019, 9:35 AM

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You pay more than 2k, you get delay

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Most often.

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 9:35 AM

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yeah... because they tend to lean more towards color accuracy

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 9:37 AM

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Too many bits to drive lol

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6 bit panels get driven faster

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 9:39 AM

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monitors suck if you really think about it lol

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 9:39 AM

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It's always a compromise

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 9:39 AM

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or maybe companies hype them too much

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 9:40 AM

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Compensate that disappointment

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Get a pair of Hungarian Audio Monitoring Accessories

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@hexed horizon

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 9:41 AM

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wth lol

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 9:41 AM

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HAMA headsets lol

hexed horizon Jun 4, 2019, 9:41 AM

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stfu im gonna commit hurt you

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 9:41 AM

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Don't hit me too hard or I'll spill the potatoes

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Or beans lol

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 9:42 AM

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dude i was looking at audio interfaces and i got really sad lol

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they cost too much

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LOL

📎 lol.PNG

thorny raft Jun 4, 2019, 9:47 AM

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ok?

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 9:48 AM

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Even 6ms is ok rite?

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 9:48 AM

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Yeah?

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 9:48 AM

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Actually since having 1ms

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I can say Id never go backk

thorny raft Jun 4, 2019, 9:49 AM

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I get 100+ ms ping

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 9:49 AM

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mine was like 7ms

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but 1ms monitor is amazing

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 9:49 AM

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yeah

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 9:49 AM

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Just joking

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Even 4 ms you'll see blur yes

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Samsung calls their 1ms tech mprt

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 9:49 AM

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yeah... not that extreme tho

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mine is 17 ms and its not that bad

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 9:50 AM

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They're referring to motion blur induced by the sample and hold nature of LCD screens

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It is bad

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Very bad

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We're just so used to LCD screens thats all

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That our brains tune it out

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 9:50 AM

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maybe

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 9:51 AM

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So there's a host of tech to counteract it like strobing / black frame insertion

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For slow moving content not really noticeable, more for fast moving content or viewpoints

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 9:52 AM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 9:55 AM

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@lost iron you're referring to a monitor with strobe or black frame insertion yes? The newfangled Samsung gaming monitors?

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 9:57 AM

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Dont think I am

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 9:57 AM

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What are your monitor specs? @lost iron

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 10:18 AM

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Mine is an AOC C24G1

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 10:20 AM

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Quick remind @hexed horizon

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LOL

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 10:21 AM

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Its not 1ms

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its 3ms gtg

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 10:22 AM

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Grey to Grey isnt exactly a real metric is it?

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All I know is its a world of difference to the old monitor I had

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1ms is the specs I see

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O.o

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 10:23 AM

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yes... it is... 1 ms MPRT means nothing lol

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 10:23 AM

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or are you using a synthetic benchmark review?

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 10:23 AM

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no

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im reading its specs

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 10:24 AM

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4ms grey to grey is what Im reading here

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 10:24 AM

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yeah my bad

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 10:24 AM

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I mean I dont really go off grey to grey though, because I dont ever render pixels in grey to grey

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 10:24 AM

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thats why im trying to find BTW

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cuz thats worst case

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 10:26 AM

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@lost iron oh grey to grey is a metric, not necessarily for grey pixels but nevertheless a useful metric for general pixel transitions if not mistaken

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Just like we use cinebench even though we might not use cinebench or maxxon but it is a useful metric indicating general cpu performance

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 10:27 AM

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Yeah

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 10:28 AM

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Though full black to white transitions can be punishing metric for say VA panels because most of the time the screen pixels are transitioning from one colour to another (or shade thereof)

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 10:29 AM

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I wish manufactures would tell us Black to white response... cuz that tells me the panels worst case scenario

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 10:29 AM

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Would have to rely on comprehensive reviews cause manufacturers lie (by a lot) on even grey 2 grey numbers

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 10:30 AM

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yeah

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 10:30 AM

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Essentially the pixel transition times quoted by monitor manufacturers... are useless - completely

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 10:30 AM

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yeah... its yeah i dont pay attention unless its 15ms or more

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or if a TN is like 8ms... but you get the idea

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 10:31 AM

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I have no idea how they come up with that perhaps on a fine day at 40 degrees room temp 20 RH humidity, when the sun moon and planets are all aligned

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 10:31 AM

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lol

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 10:31 AM

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And the panel is cherry picked

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With the highest ever ridiculous overdrive

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 10:32 AM

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lol

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 10:32 AM

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Transitioning from specifically chosen pink shade to a very specifically chosen dark red auburn shade

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And then rounding down the number

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 10:33 AM

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lol

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 10:33 AM

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You get the point

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 10:33 AM

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gigabyte is saying one of their monitors is .5 ms

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 10:33 AM

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They aren't lying technically but that number is essentially useless

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.5 ms? Wow

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5 or .5?

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 10:34 AM

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its a lie

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.5

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half a millisecond

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MPRT

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L I E

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 10:34 AM

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Oh that

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That is a different metric

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 10:34 AM

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Yeah

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 10:35 AM

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Yeah Samsung probs can get 1+ms MPRT

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 10:35 AM

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MPRT is a lie

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 10:35 AM

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Probs they are using Sammie panels

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 10:35 AM

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it just says how fast a picture can change

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lol

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 10:35 AM

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Oh it's a metric of motion blur

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 10:36 AM

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yep

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 10:36 AM

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Not how fast it can change pictures

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Though that obviously helps

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 10:36 AM

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oh? dont listen to me then lol

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 10:36 AM

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Of course there are severe tradeoffs

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Like half the brightness... or worse

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 10:36 AM

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Did you know I am a metric

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 10:37 AM

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Plus?

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 10:37 AM

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Jesus half brightness?

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 10:37 AM

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And loss of adaptive sync

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 10:37 AM

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i already consider 300 nits on the dim side

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 10:37 AM

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And perhaps flickering screen to those who are sensitive

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 10:38 AM

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i couldn't even enable it lol... i'd get a headache

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 10:38 AM

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@lost iron Australians use the SI do they not?

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@harsh terrace isn't 300 nits really bright for general usage? Mine is set at probably 250

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 10:38 AM

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SI?

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 10:39 AM

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Meters, kilograms,

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 10:39 AM

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We use nits as a metric for light levels of screens etc if thats what you mean?

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Oh yeah we use metric

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 10:39 AM

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I cannot wrap my head around the use of pounds, miles, feet and inches...

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 10:40 AM

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Yeah... but i draw so i need it really bright for color accuracy

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 10:40 AM

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Except for measuring body parts, furnitures and architecture

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 10:40 AM

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also i just prefer bright displays

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 10:40 AM

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@harsh terrace I hope you are ok with GTFO dark nature?

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Dang you and I might need to bring in @hexed horizon as point man to lead our fireteam when we cannot see in the dark

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 10:41 AM

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of course... i but i have really bad vision, so for games like R6S i need it really bright so i can see

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 10:41 AM

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He's the only one here with the HAMAs ah ha ha ha ha

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 10:42 AM

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Anyways

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i finally finished putting my list together for my next computer

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anyone wanna see and judge how bad it is?

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 11:03 AM

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@harsh terrace send it over

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 11:04 AM

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/X8GdBb

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 11:08 AM

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Id reckommend Noctual NT H1 unless you dont mind the long curing time of grizzly I do wonder why you didnt match your monitors as well

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 11:11 AM

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Framerate

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i like having 300 FPS in some games

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Kyronaut has no cure time as far as i know

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or its very little

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 11:16 AM

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I know some of their products have a cure time but yeah cant be sure

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and I guess Im weird, I like my monitors to match

abstract tulip Jun 4, 2019, 11:17 AM

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I mean we like to have matching monitors and some pepole like having special outfits exebored

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 11:18 AM

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@lost iron 3 MATCHED MONITORS YEAAAAHHHH

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 11:18 AM

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only 2 atm

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 11:18 AM

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@harsh terrace How about the wireless version of the G502?

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 11:19 AM

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Too expensive... although im highly considering it since its lighter

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@lost iron i like my monitors matching too, however it just isn't practical because Nvidia wont add interscaling

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 11:25 AM

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@harsh terrace Tee hee hee

📎 26-197-308-Z01.png

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 11:25 AM

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?

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Thats not a 502

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 11:26 AM

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It's a G304/305 - Logitech's cheapest lightweight wireless gaming mouse

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runs on AA batteries though

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 11:26 AM

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eh... i greatly prefer the G502

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 11:26 AM

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True the G304/5 is a small mouse for smaller hands

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But it is only 90 grams with an Energizer AA Lithium

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 11:27 AM

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i have smol hands... i just prefer big mice lol

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 11:27 AM

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whoah are you sure?

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 11:27 AM

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mhm... i had a 502 before

lost iron Jun 4, 2019, 11:27 AM

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Oh bella

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youre getting a mod mic 5

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I own one

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 11:28 AM

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nice uwu

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 11:28 AM

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@harsh terrace Have you heard of Rocket Jump Ninja

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?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duYvIPYDm3Y

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 11:28 AM

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no

fiery nacelle Jun 4, 2019, 11:28 AM

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I had a big mouse previously, then switched to a smaller one

harsh terrace Jun 4, 2019, 11:29 AM

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ah

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i have small one rn... its okay

distant root Jun 5, 2019, 3:05 AM

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Anyone knowledgable regarding motherboards? I just ordered a new rig but Im a bit worried that im bottlenecking the setup with the chosen motherboard.

late sorrel Jun 5, 2019, 3:12 AM

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Do you have a link to your build?

distant root Jun 5, 2019, 3:15 AM

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Ah yes sorry

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https://www.inet.se/datorbygge/b1086164/kek

late sorrel Jun 5, 2019, 3:21 AM

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I mean it looks okay, I’m not too sure about mobo bottlnecking though

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I personally think it’s ok

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@lost iron might have something to say though

distant root Jun 5, 2019, 3:22 AM

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Ok thanks 😃

late sorrel Jun 5, 2019, 3:23 AM

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He’s done some IT work and fun stuff like that you see...

distant root Jun 5, 2019, 3:29 AM

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👌 😄

lost iron Jun 5, 2019, 4:30 AM

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I have lots to say

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I mean that system is ok, it's a pretty low end Mobo but in saying that it's a nice low end one

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The only reason that would really matter is overclocking

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But is a non K sku so no overclocking anyway

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I imagine the power delivery vrm shit should be fine tbh

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If you can wait I'd recommend getting a Ryzen 3000 build though

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@distant root @late sorrel

fiery nacelle Jun 5, 2019, 5:38 AM

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@distant root I strongly agree with @lost iron here

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Ryzen 3000 for the win

hexed horizon Jun 5, 2019, 1:22 PM

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Oh poop

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Fellas

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Huawei is banned in the United States

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Wait hold up

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Huawei phones WORLDWIDE will not recieve any updates because the U.S. says "fuck you" ?

fiery nacelle Jun 5, 2019, 2:32 PM

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That is the good news

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for Huawei

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The bad news is - ARM has suspended business with Huawei

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So Huawei cannot even market ANY HARDWARE that has ARM-based SOCs

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Phones, modems, routers, smart devices, whatever, you name it

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The Huawei "designed" KIRIN SOC chips are actually licensed ARM-based ISA

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No x86 from Intel OR AMD for that matter too

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Won't be surprised if semicon foundries will have their arms twisted too, cutting off SOC manufacturing for Huawei

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TSMC et al may decide in the end, it is too risky to continue doing business in volume with Huawei

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Foundries in China that can manufacture at current process nodes belong to one form or another to US based companies anyway (e.g. Intel)

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Probably leaving only SMIC

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which will be mass manufacturing 14nm dies - STARTING in 2nd half 2019

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Their current high volume nodes are 28nm

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That is Galaxy S4 / iPhone 5S tech

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or in PC terms, AMD Steamroller/Excavator CPUs or AMD HD 7700 series or Nvidia GTX 600 series

distant root Jun 5, 2019, 8:52 PM

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@lost iron Thanks for the feedback. 😃

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On another notice: So I thought I'd delete some facebook posts. Since I have made alot of em over the years I thought it would be nice to delete them in bulk. It's nice to find out that facebook has DISABLED the feature of deleting posts in bulk (if you mark more than 1 post). Those cheeky bastards. Does anyone know a way to circumvent that? I have tried the popular chrome extension but its not working anymore either.

late sorrel Jun 5, 2019, 9:11 PM

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I think your screwed mate

hexed horizon Jun 5, 2019, 9:13 PM

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Delete them one by one.

late sorrel Jun 5, 2019, 9:42 PM

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Anyway, I can’t wait to buy a new ~~Mac Pro~~ cheese grater

distant root Jun 5, 2019, 9:55 PM

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@late sorrel Yeah. FB really do NOT want users to do this. Tried an old python tool but not working anymore. Tried a Chrome extension that worked last year but not working either. And as soon as I mark more than 1 post manually the deletbutton is greyed out. 😕

late sorrel Jun 5, 2019, 9:55 PM

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Yep

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I think that there’s a law change or something because Discord’s the same

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You can’t mass delete messages over a week old

distant root Jun 5, 2019, 9:57 PM

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Oh

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I thought this GDPR would make it easier to delete old stuff related to oneself :/

chrome chasm Jun 5, 2019, 11:08 PM

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What is better than an RGB PC? An RGB game of course! Here a code for RGB RUN: 82D98-RF39E-5A6MJ If you have claimed/activated the key please say it so we know the game is taken!

vale frigate Jun 5, 2019, 11:12 PM

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Why is everyone dropping steam keys?

lost iron Jun 5, 2019, 11:14 PM

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Why not?

lost iron Jun 6, 2019, 7:27 AM

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Boys and girls we may just have an arms race between AMD and NVIDIA
NVIDIA is teasing a new GPU and something to do with E3

plucky tangle Jun 6, 2019, 7:33 AM

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I saw that as well. My 1080ti is still going strong. And I see zero reason to upgrade beyond that in the foreseeable future.

Buuuut in the long run, thats going to mean cheaper prices for all of us. Yaaaaay 👌

lost iron Jun 6, 2019, 7:44 AM

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If I had a 1080 ti Id be a happy chappy too

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tbh

plucky tangle Jun 6, 2019, 7:52 AM

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I was lucky and bought it when it was 750$

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Not with it being the 1200$-1500$ it's been for like the past year.

fiery nacelle Jun 6, 2019, 7:55 AM

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wow that is expensive

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due to mining?

abstract kite Jun 6, 2019, 7:57 AM

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my 1070 is still going very good too

fiery nacelle Jun 6, 2019, 7:58 AM

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1070s can drive 1080p high quality content to somewhat high refresh rates

abstract kite Jun 6, 2019, 8:00 AM

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depends on the game, if it is not stupidly ressource expensive I have my 144 frames per second

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gta v ultra checks out

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but dawn of war III is garbage

fiery nacelle Jun 6, 2019, 8:01 AM

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would probably have to drop settings for very intensive games

abstract kite Jun 6, 2019, 8:01 AM

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5000fps on osu tho rofl

fiery nacelle Jun 6, 2019, 8:01 AM

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like Unreal Engine 4 games LOL

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In my mind

abstract kite Jun 6, 2019, 8:03 AM

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yeah unreal is pretty slow and graphics settings change image quality but not fps lol

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source engine is the best

fiery nacelle Jun 6, 2019, 8:11 AM

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Categorizing game engines that I know:

U series (commercialized en masse)

Unigine (NOT A SINGLE MASS-MARKETED GAME?)
Unreal Engines
Unity

"Cold ones" (run really well and optimized)

Snowdrop
Glacier
Frostbite

Amazing graphics (meme)

Cryengine XX and Dunia variants

Doom & Rage

idTech

Valve

Source

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The latest Unreal Engine 4 seems to me - an unoptimized resource hog that is also a blatant Nvidia tech demo

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My perceived experience is it doesn't run very well on the games which I played - PUBG, Space Hulk Deathwing, Insurgency Sandstorm - exception being Gears 4

abstract kite Jun 6, 2019, 8:21 AM

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what about diesel engine lmao

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the one running payday

fiery nacelle Jun 6, 2019, 8:22 AM

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not sure, I played Payday 2 but never put much thought into the engine

abstract kite Jun 6, 2019, 8:23 AM

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old but works well

fiery nacelle Jun 6, 2019, 8:23 AM

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Probably one of those to take Swedish games for granted

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Like in my mind - All the 3D Swedish games ran fine no problem - must have worked their "magic" into the code

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Like Generation Zero, Battlefield series, Payday series, GRAW series

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I have really no idea why

abstract kite Jun 6, 2019, 8:27 AM

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probably a local work culture

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idk either

fiery nacelle Jun 6, 2019, 8:27 AM

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TBH, I have never played a "complex" good looking Unity engine game

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The most is The Long Dark and PC Building Simulator

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With PC Building Simulator running particularly taxing on resources

abstract kite Jun 6, 2019, 8:28 AM

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because good unity games don't have the splash screen

fiery nacelle Jun 6, 2019, 8:28 AM

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I thought it was a "kiddy" / "Disneyworld" kind of junior game engine

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reserved for budget low graphics game

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Then I downloaded the ADAM demo

abstract kite Jun 6, 2019, 8:29 AM

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holy shit I was about to introduce GTFO, inside the gtfo discord server lmao

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but yeah, GTFO uses unity

fiery nacelle Jun 6, 2019, 8:29 AM

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Having run the ADAM demo, which looks amazing - I do hope Unity can scale resource utilization well with the graphics settings

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I mean - not turn out to be another Unreal Engine 4

abstract kite Jun 6, 2019, 8:30 AM

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kerbal space program is also made in unity

fiery nacelle Jun 6, 2019, 8:31 AM

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I'm guessing how multithreaded and efficient the game is also depends on the skills and time spent of the development team

abstract kite Jun 6, 2019, 8:32 AM

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true

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they'll have to anyway, as processors won't grow faster

fiery nacelle Jun 6, 2019, 8:33 AM

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oh heck I'm sporting an i7-2600 that is so going to be nerfed by the latest round of patches for Intel's sideload channel attack vulnerabilities

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Even more screwed if I have to disable Hyperthreading

abstract kite Jun 6, 2019, 8:34 AM

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oof the 2000 series

fiery nacelle Jun 6, 2019, 8:34 AM

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Time for Zen 2 (or 3 next year?)

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worse for me, mine is a locked SKU

abstract kite Jun 6, 2019, 8:34 AM

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yeah, better wait for the 3

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the best would be to wait a bit after the release of gen 3

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just to get the first price drop

fiery nacelle Jun 6, 2019, 8:35 AM

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Zen 2 chiplets

📎 O8bTJO1bP4b3wUZc.png

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Someone at AMD reddit made this to explain

📎 dK3pZJG.png

abstract kite Jun 6, 2019, 8:36 AM

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well that's interesting

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but they are cisc processors anyway, performance can't really be measured

fiery nacelle Jun 6, 2019, 8:37 AM

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directly against ARM ones right?

abstract kite Jun 6, 2019, 8:38 AM

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arm are cisc too if I'm right

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ooooh

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I'm wrong

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interesting

fiery nacelle Jun 6, 2019, 8:38 AM

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ARM is a RISC design

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x86 from Intel and AMD

abstract kite Jun 6, 2019, 8:39 AM

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well, compared to the architecture I made, ARM are still complex

fiery nacelle Jun 6, 2019, 8:39 AM

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well these days they are ALL RISC

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the GPUS, x86 chips

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deep inside

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They just have some kind of hardware to process all those CISC instructions

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frontend?

abstract kite Jun 6, 2019, 8:40 AM

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µops, well you can say that I guess

fiery nacelle Jun 6, 2019, 8:53 AM

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I wonder what the minimums for GTFO will be

lost iron Jun 6, 2019, 8:54 AM

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Low

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Very very easy to achieve

fiery nacelle Jun 6, 2019, 8:54 AM

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I don't mean these bare absolute minimums for running the game at 720p 25fps with everything off

lost iron Jun 6, 2019, 8:55 AM

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I'm talking about 60 fps at 720p

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It's very low

fiery nacelle Jun 6, 2019, 8:55 AM

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or those even more ridiculous LowSpecGamer mins LOL

lost iron Jun 6, 2019, 8:55 AM

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In saying that, that's with minimum settings

hexed horizon Jun 6, 2019, 8:55 AM

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Lowspec gamer good men

lost iron Jun 6, 2019, 8:55 AM

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I think most mid range system will run it really well on 1080p

fiery nacelle Jun 6, 2019, 8:55 AM

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Hmmm, Rainbow Six Siege runs even on a 750Ti

hexed horizon Jun 6, 2019, 8:56 AM

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GTFO minimum specs: i5-2400 gtx650

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Recommended should be the 970

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And uhh 6500?

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Idunno

fiery nacelle Jun 6, 2019, 8:56 AM

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ah I see probs in that region

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I mean I have run Unity games like PC Building Simulator that is... demanding

hexed horizon Jun 6, 2019, 8:57 AM

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Ludvig said that he tested the 650 card, and in his opinion it should be the least minimum

fiery nacelle Jun 6, 2019, 8:57 AM

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whew

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that is some relief

#

well even the 750 Ti is quite low

lost iron Jun 6, 2019, 8:57 AM

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Well I've been told it can run on integrated graphics

hexed horizon Jun 6, 2019, 8:57 AM

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And for CPU use I think the 3rd gen i5 is cool

fiery nacelle Jun 6, 2019, 8:57 AM

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2200G?

lost iron Jun 6, 2019, 8:57 AM

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At 720p with 60fps

hexed horizon Jun 6, 2019, 8:57 AM

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The 2400G could run it quite well

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And the 2200G as well

lost iron Jun 6, 2019, 8:58 AM

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Intel HD 6000 series cpu integrated graphics

fiery nacelle Jun 6, 2019, 8:58 AM

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I do hope those of us sporting higher end graphics can CRANK settings up to make it look nice

hexed horizon Jun 6, 2019, 8:58 AM

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The AMD APUs could run it well IMO.

fiery nacelle Jun 6, 2019, 8:58 AM

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with reasonable scaling on utilization

lost iron Jun 6, 2019, 8:58 AM

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I'm pretty sure the game will look BalanceOK

fiery nacelle Jun 6, 2019, 8:58 AM

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Intel HD 6000? that low?

hexed horizon Jun 6, 2019, 8:58 AM

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Fortnite runs on Hd4000

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I suppose

fiery nacelle Jun 6, 2019, 8:59 AM

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Fortnite is kinda cartoony haha

hexed horizon Jun 6, 2019, 8:59 AM

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Fortnite has to render thw whope map and 90 players

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Or something

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Idunno

fiery nacelle Jun 6, 2019, 8:59 AM

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(why do almost all real looking Unreal Engine 4 games run like crap)

hexed horizon Jun 6, 2019, 8:59 AM

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GTFO should run great on 2014 midrange and thats it

lost iron Jun 6, 2019, 9:00 AM

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Intel Iris Pro 580 or HD 530

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Apparently can run it

fiery nacelle Jun 6, 2019, 9:00 AM

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If it is the Iris series, yeah I can see

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(no pun intended)

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LOL

hexed horizon Jun 6, 2019, 9:01 AM

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Gt710 for GTFO

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Pentium g4400

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Uhh

lost iron Jun 6, 2019, 9:02 AM

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It seems to me that the game will be very accessible

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Tbh

fiery nacelle Jun 6, 2019, 9:02 AM

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that is kinda too low would it not be?

lost iron Jun 6, 2019, 9:02 AM

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I can't say much more though guys

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So I'm gonna stop

fiery nacelle Jun 6, 2019, 9:02 AM

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thanks for the chat though haha

hexed horizon Jun 6, 2019, 9:02 AM

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Intel Core 2 Quad Q9000

fiery nacelle Jun 6, 2019, 9:02 AM

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we are hardware guys

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LOL

lost iron Jun 6, 2019, 9:02 AM

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I am 10000% that

hexed horizon Jun 6, 2019, 9:03 AM

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I watched a lot of videos before I got my new computer

fiery nacelle Jun 6, 2019, 9:03 AM

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Sad that among my friends I now have the most potato PC evah

hexed horizon Jun 6, 2019, 9:03 AM

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specs??????

fiery nacelle Jun 6, 2019, 9:03 AM

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i7-2600 on 8GB DDR3 with RX480 8GB and 500gb SSD

hexed horizon Jun 6, 2019, 9:04 AM

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The i7-2600 holds up pretty good

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The K version at least

fiery nacelle Jun 6, 2019, 9:04 AM

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Yeah, one of mah friends has TWO GTX 1080 Ti

hexed horizon Jun 6, 2019, 9:04 AM

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On base clock

fiery nacelle Jun 6, 2019, 9:04 AM

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dang

hexed horizon Jun 6, 2019, 9:04 AM

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The 480 is nice

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It runs VR

fiery nacelle Jun 6, 2019, 9:04 AM

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My problem is I am driving a 4k screen with it LOLOLOL