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#gtfo-related-questions
dusky totem
vital sierra
bring c foam launcher
dusky totem
how many
wise thicket
1
dusky totem
what about the other 3
fallen tide
2 sentries 1 mine and 1 cfoam good choice
fallen tide
hehe
vital sierra
useful until you reach some destination
dusky totem
isnt cfoam only for the mother
fallen tide
search his name on uthube
weary relic
4 foam is meta
craggy pier
were fog repellers always on a timer?
weary relic
yes
wise thicket
supple sluice
In C-1, what is a good strat to not die in zone 20 or 17
supple sluice
Because I go in there i try stealthing it a charger gets by and we die
weary relic
ah
supple sluice
I kill the scout we die
weary relic
yep, thats what happens
its that or risk killing it stealth, but that has more issues
supple sluice
is there a way to make it less likely to die?
weary relic
use doors to group, optimize your setup and practice your aim
etc, its just trying things out
fair mauve
Mines are your best friend
weary relic
hm
supple sluice
Really?
weary relic
depends
supple sluice
Our setup is 3 sentry(2 shotgun and a burst) and a c-foam
fair mauve
Yeah, if its Z20. Mine the room prior, kill scout, pull room into the mines to help clear. Charger waves for C1 is only about 3 chargers per spawn
Z17 is different
supple sluice
ok then should we take out the c-foam or a sentry for Z20
fair mauve
Take out Sentry
supple sluice
Ok
fair mauve
Cfoam is also good vs chargers too
But mines make C1 really easy. Z17 is harder, but its not that much different
supple sluice
I've never gotten that far with Z17
fair mauve
You can also just designate a person in killing the charger waves alternatively
fair mauve
You only need 1 person to clear charger waves from behind since its only a wave of 3
fair mauve
Same set up
Z17 is a bit harder to do since chargers spawning a head is a bit annoying. Z20 you should basically beat the mission
supple sluice
A head?
weary relic
in front of you
supple sluice
oh
weary relic
they can possibly alert the scout
fair mauve
^
fair mauve
Z17 its more likely to spawn infront of you. Z20 if you have 2 people in, you shouldn't have them spawn on you or infront
You might have alerted the sleeping chargers in the room
weary relic
^
fair mauve
But honestly. Don't be afraid to shoot during error. The goal is to find the HSU fast after you kill scout and even then if you have mines, the mines can buy time while you clear Z20 and then deal with scout wave
supple sluice
Ok
weary relic
mines behind you while you push into z20
supple sluice
Thank you for the advice
fair mauve
Once you open Z18 and clear towards Z20. Sentry is useless and mines take all priority
weary relic
sentry is kinda useless all of the level
fair mauve
^
minor fractal
You can delay spawns in-front of you for 20
If you enter 20A and then leave defenders in 19B, you can clear 20A safely.
Then, everyone should move into 20A to push into 20C or 20B (do not be in both at once).
Enemies should only spawn in 18A and 19A respectively.
jolly zealot
Can you not do that for 17? If not, do you know why not?
supple sluice
Should we give the defender the mines?
for 20
You cant do it for 17 because different room layouts
minor fractal
Enemies will just spawn deeper into the zone unless you control 17A and 17D (so a viable strategy is to rush the zone to get into D as soon as possible).
Usually I'll vote to guard the door connecting A to D as the main defense since this means we can't get spawns in D or E (D has terminal and E is the most common HSU spawn).
supple sluice
A has the most common HSU spawn for 20, right?
supple sluice
B has the terminal
minor fractal
First room is A, it goes to the left and back. B is at the end of that back bit. C is a large cube at the middle of the left bit of A.
wise thicket
Do scans with mission objectives in it go faster with more people in it?
gilded jolt
I think it varies?
weary relic
shouldnt no
wise thicket
ok
weary relic
in regard to A1 and B2
prime cobalt
When the final alarm goes off at the very end of a level, in example A2 after you put the last battery pack in, does that alarm trigger any sleepers left in the rest of the facility as well as the new ones that show up?
weary relic
not all of it, just where the new ones spawn/ rooms they go thru
prime cobalt
Okay cool, im doing some solo practice on a2 and the only thing I cant seem to get is that last push and I wanted to make sure to minimize anything that could kill me
spark wolf
For sleepers waking on A2's extraction, it should only be the first zone you'd have to worry about
The waves will spawn 2 rooms away, you should already have the first room of the 3 blood door zones cleared because they were blood doors
Now even if you didn't clear the room that they might end up spawning in that shouldn't really be an issue
The sleepers will only wake up if the enemies that spawned there scream which they generally don't do when they're that far away from you
Basically most the waves will be spawning in the room with the generator cluster as that's 2 rooms away from the extraction
So you can place down mines between spawn and the generator cluster room to help you out
It's just the first wave that'll spawn somewhere else, because when you start it, you're still in the generator room
You can mine the closest doors in the blood door zones to deal with the initial wave
(the initial wave can also spawn at the extraction point because that's also 2 rooms away from you at that time, but if you've put mines there already then that won't be an issue)
swift plover
does that new ludvig leaks suggest that we will have semi-randomized layouts for levels each time, or is it just for enemy/item generation?
gilded jolt
I that is just the process of making a level
swift plover
Ooo okay, he said “level gen” so I thought it was something new
minor fractal
Probably being used just to get an idea of how big the zone is.
gilded jolt
As far as I know the levels first get randomly generated then the devs makes tweaks to them to make sure they are high quality
swift plover
that’s interesting to see as a non-dev
gilded jolt
I think thats how it works but idk for sure
fleet fiber
Oh cool
lilac fulcrum
level gen just means the devs level generator tool. no plans for randomized layouts.
swift plover
does anyone have any tips for soloing A1? loadout or strats for later waves?
minor fractal
Try to find c-foam in 254 where the alarm door is or in 252.
vivid ravine
Anyone know an accurate mouse sensitivity conversion from a game like Valorant to GTFO?
trying to keep my sensitivity as consistent as possible between competitive games and this game
gusty creek
Are there any weapons I should absolutely stay away from? Any tier lists?
gilded jolt
Burst Cannon
swift reef
not really
gilded jolt
Burst Cannon is really bad
swift reef
can be useful, but better to take sniper
gilded jolt
Well ye thats what I am saying
Its whole point is to kill big guys but there are guns that can do that plus more
keen solar
Assaults rifle
high belfry
A salt rifle
gusty creek
how about the regular rifle, any positive feedback from that? (the semi-auto one)
high belfry
I myself would go for the bullpup or the smg
Though I like having to triggerfinger, I see the use of an auto rifle
keen solar
Rifle and DMR are only good if you can do headshot
swift reef
rifle is really good for suppression
craggy pier
Honestly, all weapons are good when used right. You just need to find what suits your pick and role, I personally use DMR which a lot of players despise, I know someone who goes DMR sniper but they can actually do good with it. Just test out what's good for you and you like. Although there's some questionable weapons but just find out what you like best.
swift reef
the important thing is what melee you use
high belfry
Yes
fair python
For some reason, people consider melee to be the most important choice even though it's just a cosmetic difference
craggy pier
It's more of a community joke/meme more than anything else.
vital sierra
infinite ammo
swift reef
no cooldown
craggy pier
This game ironically have some best malee combat to play.
gusty creek
Bring me mallet
tardy falcon
mallet best melee
craggy pier
Machine gun best melee
tardy falcon
dmr best melee
thorny current
[...], I know someone who goes DMR sniper but they can actually do good with it.
I soloed with it once and did R3D1 with that combo. Fun to use ngl. Still I like the HEL Rifle more.
tardy falcon
soloed r3d1 with dmr sniper?
gusty falcon
distant ice
bruh
craggy pier
Oh nice :D A lot more people have solo'd D1
Is it really true because anyone could say that
fair mauve
Yep
tardy falcon
why did i have a ping here 
tardy falcon
craggy pier
Hi, can someone please let me know why 69, 169, 269 channels in discord don't exist?
swift plover
Nice
thorny current
You cannot just name those numbers. You get cursed if you'll do
Those are bound to a horrible secret
high belfry
Because of people like "HAHA FUNNY SEX NUMBER"
thorny current
and that
weary relic
We also dont have any VC numbers over 210
craggy pier
Hi, can someone please let me know why 69, 169, 269 channels in discord don't exist?
@craggy pier
People were immature about it.
fleet fiber
E RATED? Seriously?
gilded jolt
No I think it was sarcasm
ionic nexus
its more of the fact that its actually not funny and that a 9 y/o was spamming it
and got annoying so it was removed
lilac fulcrum
What has the community decided to call the wall creatures that spew infection? My team calls them Scrotes.
@karmic lotus many call them wallsacks
karmic lotus
Thanks
neon gust
99% of those are insults or just bad words in general while refering to the cysts
fleet fiber
Spitters
tardy falcon
b4 doodoo
weary relic
agreed
atomic robin
i call them zits, because they pop like zits
short raft
Question, what does this game consider "medium" and "long" range in gun descriptions? I'm trying to figure out the effective ranges of some guns
Like, what's a concrete number for the ranges if anyone knows
vital sierra
long range is about 50 meter
medium would be 20 - 30 meter
and short range is below 20 or 15 meter
you can see that by using the pistol
2 headshot and 1 body shot will kill the striker
but about 15 meter, you need more than that to kill the striker
weary relic
Every gun is different. But ^ pretty accurate ye
gilded jolt
Well new guns got added in Rundown 3
restive reef
we get new guns every rundown
wise thicket
.t Rundown
uneven gulchBOT
For information on what the Rundowns are and how they work, take a look at this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHZwiPVOVvA
atomic robin
wait, does the sniper have a damage drop off as well?
weary relic
yes
neon gust
Probably past 60m
weary relic
It starts at 60 iirc
neon gust
But this rundown we dont really have a layout to sniper from that distance
I still remember people sniping the 4 scout room in r2b2
weary relic
Yeah. Sadly
weary relic
Not a bug
hard wasp
r3a3 you can shoot across the reactor and the 'bridge' room
weary relic
Number wise. No gun will alert enemies based on sound past 30m
hard wasp
idk how far it is but it definitely dropped off
neon gust
Theres a bug wich is shooting while the door closes that is popular now
weary relic
I hate that
neon gust
r3a3 you can shoot across the reactor and the 'bridge' room
@hard wasp i was talking stealth wise
hard wasp
Ohhh yea true
swift reef
With the sniper
neon gust
A3 its a big ass hallway lmao
hard wasp
i thought you meant long enough to experience the drop off 
neon gust
i thought you meant long enough to experience the drop off :cz_lmao:
@hard wasp nah thats my ass expressing myself wrong
neon gust
I think most stuff just de-render at that distance
neon gust
Well the only place i could think of that has that distance would be the two big rooms on e1, spawn and room with the two scouts in it together
hard wasp
you could shoot a scout in r2d1 from the generator cluster room
weary relic
For what? 30m kills
You can still do it in R3
One of the fog scouts in A2 is one I’ve personally done
atomic robin
huh, i remember sniping the scouts in R2D2 lol
i see, so it has a drop off too huh
oof
thank you
weary relic
Ye. But it barely mattered the way it used to work
Unless you are at 99 meters
Basically with new sniper if head shot it’ll die at any range
Till de render
neon gust
I love the new sniper i hope they dont change it
neon gust
Maybe sum.more ammo
weary relic
Ye. It’s been a nice balance change
atomic robin
nahh, no more ammo
neon gust
But its so nice to have now
craggy pier
We have HEL rifle for that
atomic robin
more ammo would mean decreased damage, to keep it balanced
neon gust
Unlike the unnameable weapon that we shall not speak
weary relic
hel rifle and burst cannon
weary relic
Ye. It’s sucks. And suffers from overkill
neon gust
Ive never had a big issue with it
weary relic
Hel rifle usually suffers from wasted potential
neon gust
Hel rifle usually suffers from wasted potential
@weary relic enlight my goofy ass
weary relic
Well
Since it one redeeming factor it’s 5 pierce, it is very inefficient if not multi killing
And pitiful against giants
minor fractal
That's both of the HEL weapons, though.
weary relic
Yes
neon gust
And pitiful against giants
@weary relic it truly is > Since it one redeeming factor it’s 5 pierce, it is very inefficient if not multi killing
@weary relic the weapon its purpose suppose to reward good positioning ?
hard wasp
hel gun superior
minor fractal
They both suck.
neon gust
Nah permafoam guy i disagree
weary relic
It is but the hel rifle I personally feel loses out its role to the hel gun
Hel gun has a place and fits it nicely. The rifle tries to fit a middle ground between it and the sniper. But can’t do either well
minor fractal
I think people overestimate how much they're doing with HEL weapons vs just taking a shotgun or something.
hard wasp
not for me
weary relic
Doesn’t mean the hel gun doesn’t have a place
weary relic
Ew
minor fractal
I feel like we need something like a Smogon tier list that bases its ratings off of usage.
atomic robin
wouldn't a use/kills chart be better then? to determine a weapons efficiency
weary relic
That is made
atomic robin
oh? mat i see it?
minor fractal
Not a use list but numbers have been calculated for efficiency on kills and damage at max.
neon gust
Is the fun factor on that list too?
atomic robin
probably not, gathering player data on this would be better imo, since the a weapon is used, the bass likes it more, right?
weary relic
Ha no
atomic robin
the more*
neon gust
Cuz hel rifle can be a poppy on spread sheet but goddam if its not fun to shoot, also the sound its so badass
minor fractal
That's why I'd like to see some sort of tiering, at least on the dev's end, for weapon usage.
Because a lot of weapons are significantly underused, and I think they could do with mild buffs or perks.
atomic robin
probably
neon gust
They have access to that info already
atomic robin
^ probably
neon gust
They keep track of all those things already
weary relic
The hel gun could def use more ammo
neon gust
Or you really think they just keep trsck of just level.completitions
minor fractal
Both HEL weapons are about the same in terms of damage. HEL gun is better at kills for single-target but much worse for kills multi-target w/out chip damage.
HEL gun is also a lot easier to use while HEL rifle provides other utilities like being a ranged scout option.
They've given no indication that they keep track of anything besides completions.
They very well might not have stats for that.
If they do, they'd be interesting to know, though.
Hopefully they will eventually include them for the @balmy magnet twitter.
neon gust
Eh i think that would.make much more of a impact after the game releases
All the weapons would.be out and fully functional
So info would.be correct and accurate
Rather than now that some weapons are buggy
Like how ss had higher pick up rate due to the bug that it had
Of course thats a tool but i just put that as an example
Rifle currently has thst bug that can one shot strikers supposedly
minor fractal
Never heard of that? Pretty sure that's just the usual "b-but DMR one-shots to the head!" thing.
And I think the stats would be useful for development, since they would inform how the weapons are viewed by the community at large for any given rundown.
swift plover
do you guys think that the HEL Rifle is best for solo A3? it's what i've been running but whenever i miss an enemy or two i get hit a few times 
minor fractal
HEL Gun is usually better since you can take advantage of burst chip damage.
Both HEL weapons and shotguns are fairly usable, though.
thorny current
You are just wondering if no mic players are playing the game out of curiosity?
dapper halo
i mean i have a mic but i just simply dont feel like talking stupid enough
thorny current
Ahhh ok. Well you dont have to communicate alot if you dont want. Some of the best players are no mics and mainly communicate over text. You might get furious people from time to time though. Some say you can only play this game by talking about everything. You might get those toxic people. But there are others who dont care
like me for instance
dapper halo
ah awesome awesome ill just lurk around until i get a good feel for it solo
i like the difficulty
thorny current
Well the solo experience is by far one of the greatest challenges in this game. You will find the meat grinder there^^
ancient lynx
Well you dont have to communicate alot if you dont want. Some of the best players are no mics and mainly communicate over text.
another thing is that with game sense comes less need for communication, when players know what is going on without communicating, there's less need for communication
tired comet
can you c foam a door multiple times to make it last even longer?
weary relic
No
But you can let the layer get knocked off and foam it again for a new set of “door health”
minor fractal
You can also save foam by adding balls after balls are destroyed.
craggy pier
This is a question directed towards the developers.
I was wondering if there was any way to get the GTFO playermodels.
I wish to use them for a social platform game, if it is allowed.
atomic robin
uh, you should probably go to mod contact with that question to take up contact with the devs, since you have a better chance of getting in contact with them that way
lost warren
Hi, I just recently returned to the game and noticed that some people write the rundown number in LFG. I wondered if you can play other ones than the active rundown now?
craggy pier
Negatory.
lost warren
I thought so. Thanks.
lilac fulcrum
@craggy pier Sorry, but there is not any way we can get you the player models.
wheat briar
Does becoming a nitro booster go towards funding the game or does it simply benefit the discord server specifically?
sturdy dew
Nitro boosting doesnt really support the server or the game, since this server is verified we get all the perks you can get from boosting for free. Boosting does support discord though
wheat briar
thanks @sturdy dew
frail kestrel
Do we have any info about the rd4 yet?
distant ice
nope
frail kestrel
f
distant ice
indeed
wise thicket
My bet is early or mid October
distant ice
would've got a timer update already if it were early october
gilded jolt
No
lilac fulcrum
There's a lot of really exciting features that are coming with Rundown 4 that will certainly have made the wait worth it, like host migration for those who don't have the best connections, if the host drops, it'll migrate to a new host and keep the lobby going. Layered difficulty so if you don't think it's hard enough, there's more challenge for you to take on, etc.
rain python
#doc-leaks
distant ice
@lilac fulcrum will there be any other way to switch hosts?
lilac fulcrum
host would start with whoever creates the lobby, then the game tries to pick the best host from the players that are left in the lobby.
distant ice
so basically you can't switch voluntarily without host disconnecting
lilac fulcrum
you shouldn't need to switch host. what would the use case be?
thorny current
Well I can think of a nice QoL. The Host gets connection problems for whatever reasons and you can just switch. Tbh though, the host can simply go back to lobby and then another gets the position. But other than that players prolly always go for the best host anyways.
distant ice
no? usually people who don't want to host because of connection or possible connection problems just stalk lfg until what they want pops up (or rarely state that they won't be hosting)
also mm exists, god knows how that'll work
rejoining is a workaround, yes, but that's all it is
but yeah basically for whatever reason a host that hasn't disconnected (yet) wants to switch with someone, that's one use case
also maybe it's problems unrelated to connection, seeing how this game's clients can suffer from host's computer performance
thorny current
We'll prolly just have to see. Regarding normal mm or lfg, host migration will be a part for both of them. So we will prolly experience it sooner or later
distant ice
i meant mm in terms of who will be the host
wise thicket
ye
dusky totem
wait so it does end?
dusky totem
when
gilded jolt
Yes
swift reef
Any recommendations for loadouts or strats for the first part of D1? we have smg or bullpup as primary, sniper, combat shotgun, shotgun, and burst cannon as special. 2 shotgun sentires, c-foam, and mine deployer as tool.
swift reef
should we only bring 1?
vital sierra
burst sentry can kill them faster
swift reef
because we did alter between having 2 c-foam launchers and having 2 shotgun sentries
vital sierra
after the "bug fix" on Shotgun sentry
swift reef
wasn't that in R2? where they were nerfed?
distant ice
in R2 the back damage got nerfed
now they got fixed
2 foam, mines and bio might be the 200iq play but don't listen to me
swift reef
The level can be forgiving, the time I beat it we did the wrong alarm door
but my setup was 2 sentries, mines and c-foam
neon gust
1 bio, 1 bs, 1 mine ,1 cfoam
swift reef
1 of each then
neon gust
bio for enemy positioning, really helpfull in 90/89 also requires no tool, bs becasue it can kill stuff, mines for [REDACTED], and cfoam for doors
swift reef
looks like shotgun sentry lost it's fame
distant ice
you would use mines for [REDACTED]? they do basically nothing
neon gust
it needs another fix but its on par with bs if you positioned right
i mean THE SPECIFIC DOOR
distant ice
nvm then
neon gust
you can put a couple of bubbles out with mines ive seen some people do it
swift reef
||blood door?||
neon gust
eh its almost 4 months after r3
theres this big ass blood door with 40 enemies in it
save some mines for that
swift reef
I did finish it, just trying to get through it with my friends
neon gust
oh
weary mesa
I usually run two burst mine bio
neon gust
biotracker will be most helpfull if you ping consistently
weary mesa
^
vital sierra
don't split up too much since the level are not well designed for error alarm
if you split up, you will get potential giant spawning on top of you
since there is no room for them to spawn
vital sierra
no
neon gust
three can stay and one can go and pull the entire sector, or the whole team can go in
vital sierra
they break down door
door have a bug where if it got destroyed, light can't pass through
vital sierra
the enemies gonna spawn in those zone and break the door anyway
swift reef
but better to have less broken doors
vital sierra
when you open zone 389/390, that it's when the error alarm mechanic is "fixed" so they will spawn in there
more than they spawn outside
but if everyone go inside then they will spawn outside those zone due to alarm spawning mechanic
i kept saying error alarm when it's just... alarm
swift reef
I never heard the term error alarm until C1
vital sierra
that
neon gust
technically an errror alarm would be how enemies keep spawning at the end of a mission
vital sierra
it's in E1
neon gust
but they introduce those in e1
vital sierra
but ye
it's like extraction alarm
but extraction alarm only spawn about 3 enemies
neon gust
in a traumatizing way with 3 different zones and surge alarms : D
vital sierra
error alarm is like extraction alarm but modified
instead of spawning 3 strikers, they randomly spawn striker and shooter
with 1 giant
neon gust
593
vital sierra
for D1 of course
craggy pier
distant ice
you are now
hot jolt
What does it mean to be an ambassador?
hot jolt
Hm. Nice
atomic robin
so you get an email from gtfo like every 4 months
swift reef
just don't make too much noise before you hit it
gilded jolt
A monster truck would wake the whole damn complex
tawdry junco
mini monster truck
minor fractal
@tawdry junco
https://www.reddit.com/r/GTFO/comments/hlt49s/gtfo_scout_kill_guide_tactics_for_killing_scouts/
Short version, you need it to walk towards you. Hold still while you kill it. You can kill it with feelers out if it's late in its walk cycle or you sprint a little bit while away from other sleepers.
tawdry junco
oh ok
verbal zinc
Or you do a kickflip
tough bison
Best Loadouts? Any opinions
tough bison
Why the sniper? Hows the Drekker compare to the DMR?
atomic robin
i dont know what the fuck a drekker is, but the sniper is, id say, an all purpose killing weapon, its also the only special i can use im shit with literally anything else
tough bison
the Drekker is the other primary thats a Semi (https://gtfo.gamepedia.com/Drekker_Pres_MOD_556_Rifle)
atomic robin
oh, you mean the assult rifle?
fair mauve
Carbine Shotgun mine is pretty standard
Its all preference at the end of the day though
atomic robin
lets see, the dmr, imo, has a cleaner scope, which it needs since its modelled as a mini sniper, it isnt auto but it does have a fast fire rate
the rifle is auto, so it can be used to spray which can be very useful, it does good damage and kills well, dont have much practice with it tho
tough bison
uh not the assault rifle the Drekker, its a Semi auto. I think it has double the ammo as the DMR and shoots faster but doesnt hold as well to range
atomic robin
id say the dmr is more a skill based weapon tho, since you need to hit your shots because of your low mag and limited ammo, but a shot to the head (mini sleeper) staggers it, two shots to the body stagger it, and a shot to the head and to the body kill it, it also one shots shooters into the head
thorny current
He means the Rifle
atomic robin
oh, ah
fuck me then
well then, the two guns are similar, but the fact that the rifle has more ammo and a bigger mag makes it on par with the dmr
atomic robin
iirc it can three shot a normal sleeper, one in the head and two to the body
been months since i tested it, and school is killing my brain rn, so this isnt reliable info, just how i remember it
tough bison
i feel that man, schools a bitch
atomic robin
i say its good, the fact that it has more reserve could make it better than the dmr, because if youre not paying attention, the dmr runs out fast
fair mauve
I mean you can technically abuse the bugged headshot hitbox with rifle and 2 shot sleepers
atomic robin
i dont know what that is and i do not wish to know, but thats an interesting fact lol
the dmr also one shots strikers into the back of the head, dont know about the drekker
fleet fiber
Carbine has good damage
atomic robin
the four round burst gives it good damge, must agree
fleet fiber
It’s ok in terms of amm
atomic robin
idr the reload time, but i feel like it might need a bit of a buff to make it better
since you can burn through that 40 bullet mag in 10 bursts
which is nothing lmao
spark wolf
You probably are already "abusing" that bug just without noticing it
It's pretty hard not to when shooting crawlers
atomic robin
i mean, i use the dmr, so its a two shot kill usually
thorny current
You could repro that bug with DMR, but it doesnt matter in this case
no abuse there
atomic robin
yeah lol
spark wolf
Are you actually intentionally 2 shotting them with the dmr
atomic robin
yes, yes i am
one in the head and one in the body
it is a two shot kill after all
atomic robin
idk, probably
thorny current
Well if your mates are not finishing them
atomic robin
lol yeah
tough bison
So which would be better the Drekker or the Dmr, and then would the Carbine and the bullpup be better then the assault rifle?
atomic robin
i mean, if we looked at the enemy hp, multis and weapon damage, we could determine how low they would be, but i dont have that kind of information so i have no idea lol
uh, bullpup is bad because it burns through ammo too fast
atomic robin
carbine and assult are both good but i dont use either so idk
true, but it still fucking eats ammo
thorny current
Drekker is prolly better esp at beginning and Carbine is better than AR and Bulllpub. Tbh though take what ever you thinks works for you best
atomic robin
id say drekker is only better because of the increased reserve, but i dont use it because its rundown specific
thorny current
I simply cannot go away from my DMR
atomic robin
use the weapons you like and get good with them
tough bison
the DMR also has a longer range, but it does shoot slower aswell
atomic robin
thats the silver lining to this
same Pi
the dmr shoots really fast actually
its just not auto
but rather semi i think is the word?
just spam click your mouse lmnao
lmao
tough bison
rate of fire is listed on the wiki, although it doesnt give a RPM it does give a general fast, medium, slow
atomic robin
just go into A1 and try to shoot the dmr as fast as you can
neon gust
id say the dmr is more a skill based weapon tho, since you need to hit your shots because of your low mag and limited ammo, but a shot to the head (mini sleeper) staggers it, two shots to the body stagger it, and a shot to the head and to the body kill it, it also one shots shooters into the head
@atomic robin but then you say revolver sucks wut
weary relic
rpm wise DMR is around 200 rpm maybe, rifle is about 350
neon gust
Best Loadouts? Any opinions
@tough bison Teams or solo?
weary relic
Carbine around 1500 rpm at 4 round bursts
neon gust
Carbine around 1500 rpm at 4 round bursts
@weary relic this man is addicted to carabine
atomic robin
thats my personal opinion of the revolver, i tried it out, played with it for a good while, dont like it
atomic robin
i also havent seen it in use in my 400+ hours of playing the game by any other player either
fair mauve
Revolver is fun
tough bison
@neon gust bit of both, i do try my best to balance the teams loadout, but sometimes you are the last one left. I guess the gerneral question is what brings the most while using the least
open maple
Will in game lobbies be a thing in R5?
tough bison
Personally i love the smg revolver or the Drekker Combat shotgun bc balance
fair mauve
I probably would bring revolver on everything, but C1. Just depends on my mood
neon gust
@neon gust bit of both, i do try my best to balance the teams loadout, but sometimes you are the last one left. I guess the gerneral question is what brings the most while using the least
@tough bison balance teamloadout its always good, also depeding onj the map, i would take 1 guy with semis in all levels exept b2 since its so small in comparison to other levels that its better to bring more cqc combat
I probably would bring revolver on everything, but C1. Just depends on my mood
@fair mauve pistol revolver on c1 its fun
weary relic
or carbine, hear me out, fills both the automatic and the precision role
fair mauve
I just dont like shooting chargers with revolver
weary relic
Potential damage per burst is about the same as the DMR
fair mauve
When are we getting Docs pizza in GTFO like how Portal has the Cake
fair mauve
@lilac fulcrum real questions need to be answered
atomic robin
good question, i want it now
fair mauve
Wheres the pizza
atomic robin
probably in his stomach, or robot equivalent of it
neon gust
I just dont like shooting chargers with revolver
@fair mauve but you can go BANG BANG really fast
fair mauve
But my pump 1 shot though 😭
.
neon gust
but people need to bring other specials man, people going with word of mouth that x weapon sucks (execpt burst canon) doesnt do really good to the game
pubs its just shotgun sniper galore
so boring
atomic robin
thats a good point, people need to test out the weapons for themselves, use them, and see what they like
fair mauve
Burst Cannon is trash though. No need to test
atomic robin
lol
i read that burst cannon can one shot a scout in the back of the head, im very curious if that is a fact
fair mauve
It needs to hit 4 of the 5 shots im pretty sure to kill anywhere
atomic robin
idk, i just read it, dont have enough time to test it tho sadly
neon gust
if it wasnt a mandatory burst with a lower charge time
it would be nice to bring to tactically bring giants down
minor fractal
One BC shot is enough to occiput
neon gust
so lets say you have 2 giants you shoot 2 and 2 and let you teammates shoot at it with dmr to take it down
atomic robin
yeah, thats what i said
im curious on how the dmr fairs against a titan one on one, since ive been trying to solo A2, but always had the titans either mine damaged or sniper damaged
minor fractal
It's okay, similar effectiveness to rifle.
neon gust
revolver can achieve occiput too!
You cLEaRlY areN'T A bURST CANnOn Main
@spark wolf why would i in the first place lmao
fair mauve
I mean you clearly go to the lobby select screen and change specials
I don't mind dmr on giants after you weaken it with your hammer
neon gust
hammer to the head then back damage shots?
silver jasper
Interesting, the burst cannon is considered bad...
gilded jolt
Yes it is bad
neon gust
it is
fair mauve
Yeah you can try that or hammer the back and shoot the occiput
silver jasper
Hmm, I found I preferred it to most other specials
gilded jolt
Its whole point is killing big guys but other guns do that and are good at other things too
neon gust
Yeah you can try that or hammer the back and shoot the occiput
@fair mauve sleeping i assume?
silver jasper
Shotguns and sniper were close though
fair mauve
I don't really waste time with giants with DMR though when id rather take an off angle and help clear sleepers in occiput for my team
Its pretty easy to circle around the giant and get a full charge hammer to the back honestly
neon gust
Shotguns and sniper were close though
@silver jasper its not even that its just, bad, super slow charge rate, its a burst weapon, its overkill to little guys, the fact that it can kill a scout in oneshot, you can do the same with other weapons, like revolver,pump shotty, also since its a burst you shot that 1 bullet but wasted 4
silver jasper
Then again, I may have liked burst cannon since it was mildly reminiscient of the machine guns
I mainly used it on giants
gilded jolt
Ye it does kind of remind me of one an MG but really bad
silver jasper
I had smg for hordes
gilded jolt
Ye its fun to use
ionic nexus
just blow the top off smol guys
gilded jolt
But like playing seriously it is def an inferior choice
neon gust
i remember when r3 came out, people actually tought it was a replacement for machine gun lol
silver jasper
Ehh, I used it through D1, so I'll call it good enough
(I did initially think it was a MG replacement though)
neon gust
D1 makes sense since the game spams you with giants in the beginning area until baby room
gilded jolt
Ye D1 is one of the better levels for it
silver jasper
It took me until part way through A tier to realize how high the damage was per shot iirc
minor fractal
BC isn't too wasteful if you know what you're doing
Don't use more than 1 burst from back or 2 bursts from front.
It does exactly 120 damage if all shots hit
Which is half a striker titan's health
If it survives because you missed a shot, just kill with main weapon
open maple
burst cannon wrecks
gilded jolt
It has a lot of damage but it bad
restive reef
Burst cannon is really bad 😳
ionic nexus
it looks so sexy
keen solar
There's something is sexier... you, all of you
ionic nexus
fluid osprey
🤔 This rundown sometimes had me go AR - Sniper just to be flexible enough for my teams to advance in R3D1
brisk marsh
Im newer to the game, joined in R3, and was wondering if there was any way to play the previous rundowns. Are they just gone, or is there an option in game to switch to them?
brisk marsh
darn
thorny current
Well there is a possibility: A time maschine
atomic robin
.t old rundowns
uneven gulchBOT
When a new Rundown is release, the old ones are removed. Here is why:
- System limitations Expeditions are made up of rooms that are put together to make a zone. As they make a new Rundown, there can be system changes that cause how rooms fit together to break things, which means they need to go through and fix those bugs. Things like enemies that lose their AI pathfinding, etc. See point 3 as well.
- It would divide the playerbase Instead of everyone focusing on the current Rundown, people would be split between multiple of them, making it harder for LFG groups. You can see an example from Bungie with this exact scenario: http://redd.it/5zq8d0
- The dev team is small They are 9 people and having to maintain older Rundowns would take a lot of time and effort to do. Instead of allowing them to focus on the current + next Rundown, you're forcing them to have to apply bug fixes, weapon balancing, adding new features to older Rundowns.
- Because of system upgrades old maps get unbalanced and broken I touched on this in the prior points, but the devs can't guarantee things will stay working for past Rundowns when they do updates for new ones, which means if they have older Rundowns available, the community will expect them to provide support for it, which isn't feasible.
- New fresh content The steam store page makes it clear this is how the game & Rundown system works. New content replaces old content, it keeps it fresh, gives you new features, enemies, weapons, challenges, etc. While older content may be removed, you are getting new content for free. The devs will never charge you for new content, there are no micro transactions, there are no loot boxes, there are no DLC's. You paid for the game, everything else you are getting is for free.
- Why not just make it available via the "Betas" tab Same thing as point 2. It would still cause the playerbase to be split too much.
atomic robin
@brisk marsh ^
brisk marsh
Ok. Thank you for answering my question. And yea time travel would be nice.
pulsar herald
@brisk marsh i think that was a joke from them xD
brisk marsh
Yea i know. Still would be cool
fleet fiber
What do these new investors mean? More funding/staff? Better access to equipment? What is it that they want from the deal?
What do they get out of it? How much influence do they have over the game and decisions later on?
distant ice
we don't know, devs are just saying no mtx and retain full creative freedom
you can scroll up in #gtfo-chat and read, pretty much every theory was there
repeated a few dozen times
rain python
Its tough to speculate when we don't know any info apart from 2 paragraphs. Overall, when someone invests in a company and pour money into it they want to make profit at the end of the deal. However that happens depends on the contract or agreements made. We won't be seeing any results or changes for a while as it takes a while to see effects of this deal.
All we can do now is wait and trust that 10CC made the right decisions in the future of their studio and games.
distant ice
what would be the 2nd game they make 🤔
rain python
GTFO 2
I meant in the way of the future of the overall studio and the future games they may create after GTFO
distant ice
i know but it's just an interesting thought
never considered 10CC associated with something else than GTFO
swift reef
Does 506 always have a cell?
rain python
Are those the 2 side rooms in b2?
swift reef
how do you do B1 duo?
distant ice
there's infinite foam nades
mines and ss, 2nd alarm is the only "hard" part (i mean you do warden door 2nd)
flat rock
Patience and practice really. Mines are really helpful, and I would personally use a BS over a SS on that map due to making usage of the longer stretches of the map. Warden is really only hard because you have to kite more than you would during a regular 4 man lobby. The rest is more or less the same in difficulty imo.
fleet fiber
Yep. SS is not useful all that much
weary relic
Sentries f tier
rain python
cfoam s+ tier
weary relic
Honestly for the b1, I’d say mines and bio. But tbh all tools are kinda useless except bio because of the kiting you will be doing
cfoam s+ tier
Only bio is S+
Foam is S tier :D
minor fractal
I mean, duo you shouldn't need to kite if your defender is good.
weary relic
Well. I guess you could defend one scan at a time
I haven’t done it “normally” in a long time
distant ice
we usually just both do scans all the time
they're so damn slow already with two people, one is just dying of boredom
weary relic
Slow?
weary relic
Yeah. It suck in regards if you want to kite
distant ice
how did those even get there
weary relic
Nono. Like not pulling all three scans
distant ice
oh, you were referring to that
distant ice
well i'm pretty sure only a select few snowflakes do that
weary relic
Wording was wrong but
distant ice
these guys are trying to clear
minor fractal
We didn't even bother with sentry, tbh.
weary relic
^
minor fractal
Duo partner is just good at combat and survived until partway through final scan.
weary relic
Bio
minor fractal
Do scans and kill everything at end.
weary relic
Ahh. Ok
distant ice
bio is bio but layout is very simple in this one so who cares
weary relic
Bio is good for everything
restive reef
bio poggers
weary relic
It improves all round situational awareness for the team
distant ice
i don't need general knowledge of using bio
weary relic
Or god tier for kiting, fog, and complex levels
Well you are the one trying to say it’s bad
weary relic
Ye
distant ice
where did you read "bio is bad" here
minor fractal
Would still rather have mines and c-foam for B1 frankly.
distant ice
unnecessary
weary relic
So I was more or less right
distant ice
well that's the wrong word since tools are tools i suppose
weary relic
Idk. I run it regardless
distant ice
however
i absolutely disagree with that interpretation
and i don't think foam would see much use
shrewd dirge
Only mission that sees tangible benefit from bio is c1
distant ice
side doors - foam nades exist
warden door - not gonna use it anyway
first scan? i guess?
but it's first scan
minor fractal
It was mostly to permafoam and buy time on uplinks.
weary relic
^ or that
weary relic
I mean. There is a ton of tool refill anyways so.... 20 mines anyone?
minor fractal
But almost every alarm on that map is incredibly easy with c-foam.
weary relic
Yep
minor fractal
Not usually. 3 grenades is decent RNG but not enough to permafoam.
weary relic
Even bad RNG you will get one
minor fractal
233 takes 3-4 foams, 234 takes 2-3 foams, 235 takes 1 foam.
jagged basin
There's no shadows in R3
distant ice
there's your shadow
weary relic
And it’s t posing
craggy pier
I hope we see them in R4
minor fractal
Eh, wouldn't mind a break from them.
Also, they still need to fix graphical issues where they're absurdly hard to see for some people.
pliant herald
Is it an issue with them specifically? or is it the players system that make it hard for them to see them?
minor fractal
Seems to be some sort of graphical issue.
Discovered it in R2E1 where we had two of our static who had a very hard time finding shadows while the other two of us found them very easy to spot.
Sent a screenshot over and apparently it looks completely different for us compared to them, a very clear outline vs. a vague blur.
pliant herald
But are their system specs as high as yours or higher?
minor fractal
Which would explain why shadow-heavy levels are impossible without bio for some people, meanwhile me and my duo partner didn't bother with it for R2C1.
Unsure, I would guess at lower since my machine is fairly good.
pliant herald
It might be an issue with lower end PC's
minor fractal
This wouldn't be the first spec-related issue, though. Automatics R1 were far easier to control with 4GB of ram than 32GB.
slender marsh
In this rundown the first 3 levels you have the 3rd level with all the waves you have to stop and stuff
me and my friends just got this game and got 5 hours or so on it
but on that 3rd level like around the 5th wave you have to do the security scan where all the infected come, we just cant seem to get past that part. we have enough ammo almost full health at that point but we just get wiped every time. Any tips?
minor fractal
How are you setting up for the alarm?
ionic nexus
Close all the doors c-foam middle bottom door and mine it
craggy pier
Close all the doors leading up to the scan and foam the bottom one
minor fractal
^ ^^
craggy pier
Repeatedly
slender marsh
the bottom door?
craggy pier
Yes
slender marsh
I know about the 3 doors on the same level you are at and the door you have to open
craggy pier
There's a door at the bottom of the room, thats where they always go to when you close all the doors
slender marsh
yeah we noticed there were like ALOT of infected at the bottom of the room
and one more thing
do they keep spawning or can you clear the,?
them*
craggy pier
They work like any other alarm
minor fractal
They will never stop until alarm is done.
slender marsh
alright thx for the awnsers!
elfin barn
will they be adding in game voice in the future?
craggy pier
In the backlog on the roadmap, voice chat is in features have a look https://gtfothegame.com/roadmap/
vital sierra
you can see on the roadmap
they have done something with the Backend update for the future
maybe they did some backlog
whole depot
Anyone have any tips for soloing alarms?
pliant herald
It depends on the map
real umbra
use mines outside doors and inside to slow enemies down
pliant herald
If it's a map like B2. You need to learn how to kite around while doing a single circle at a time.
whole depot
Alright. Thanks.
ancient lynx
Make sure you can kite, to my knowledge, solo alarms are a short hold till there are some enemies and then kiting them away from the scans to repeat the process
mines are useful for holding a single door for a little more and killing the first couple though the door but it's use case is only during the begining of the alarm
instead of mines, you can also take bio, it gives you a information about where the enemies are so you can replan your kite route in real time
(Both are good options, I think most people prefer mines)
slender marsh
Does gtfo get harder with more people or stay the same as solo
wise thicket
No
distant ice
same
wise thicket
It only gets harder the deeper you go
lilac fulcrum
There is no scaling based on number of players
wise thicket
Yet 😏
distant ice
what the heck is that pfp
wise thicket
Whos
slender marsh
so 4 is then bascially the easiest right?
slender marsh
alright
dusky totem
is rundown 3 harder to solo than rundown 2
weary relic
Easier if anything
There are three levels that R3 has nothing to compare to solo: D1,2, E1
dusky totem
i had a guy telling me you could run faster than the monsters in r2
gilded jolt
Ye
craggy pier
Not faster but you can kite them more easily
dusky totem
random locust
weary relic
Hu
swift reef
Is it intentional that you can't use c to shove with hammer while running with a weapon?
weary relic
shouldnt be
craggy pier
@swift reef Its a bug to my knowledge
swift reef
does it happen all the time?
craggy pier
Yes.
minor fractal
Sprinting prevents the use of C
swift reef
apperantly it's a bug
swift plover
sprinting prevents a lot of actions from happening (i.e. not being able to throw c-foam nades/premature throwing when sprinting, charging hammer in certain cases, etc.) probably just some bugs that have to be fleshed out
whole depot
Just out of curiosity, how hellish was R2E1?
craggy pier
From what I've heard either Easy af or agonizingly hard depending on RNG
craggy pier
I stand corrected
atomic robin
E1 was not "easy af"
it was really fucking hard
or we know what we're doing but still need 2 weeks to beat it hard
whole depot
.-.
atomic robin
I've only seen the extraction circle in R2E1 once, and i tried to beat it like 100+ times
keen solar
I finished it in my second day. I spent 24 hours 8 attempts and it wasn’t fun 😂
thorny current
It was an annoying level for me. I beat it once and never touched it again
whole depot
Huh.
atomic robin
^as you can see, very hard no matter what
thorny current
The only hard part was the error section. The rest was frustrating to do over and over again
R1D1 was a walk in the park in comparison
keen solar
You can’t compare R1D1 with R2E1 haha
atomic robin
I'd say harder, but i never played R1, but anyone who has played both says E1 was harder
whole depot
Seems about right.
atomic robin
R2 had a good difficult spike to assure us that it's a hardcore game
whole depot
RIP
keen solar
You can spend 5 hours on the first part of E1 to get everyone back to 100% on everything and still die in the last part within 10 mins
whole depot
RIP
thorny current
That was so fucking boring
keen solar
And most of the time you were just kiting
atomic robin
^
keen solar
Nothing but kiting 😂
atomic robin
basically
keen solar
The first part of E1 is fun. But it is just boring when the second part starts 😂
whole depot
So kinda like R3D1?
thorny current
for me it was the other way around. The first part was tedious
atomic robin
the reverse actually
keen solar
I love the stealth part
whole depot
Huh.
atomic robin
the stealth was fun because of the shadow titans
really made sure that you thought through what you're gonna do
whole depot
I heard they were in R3D1 once and it actually kinda scared me lol
thorny current
R3D1 is harder than R1D1, but easy in comparison to E1
keen solar
Oof I soloed the first part of E1 myself and I’m still proud
whole depot
Nice
atomic robin
you should be, i only got to the fog zone and that was fucking hard
keen solar
R3D1 is basically nothing compare to E1. Once you know how the spawn works, the beginning part would be slightly easier
atomic robin
it's still difficult, but easier
keen solar
And as long as your team does know how to hammer the wave, you shouldn’t have problems until the second alarm door
whole depot
Courtyard, right?
atomic robin
i call it the basketball court, but yeah
whole depot
I've beaten D1 once, but that room tends to end runs
atomic robin
it does, really does
keen solar
Haha, no one knows how to use HEL gun and that makes thing trickier.
HEL gun HEL rifle combo and stop that alarm wave easily.
whole depot
Huh.
whole depot
Really I just dislike the potential double-scout room way later in
Ended a really fun run
keen solar
Yeah I don’t like that part
atomic robin
rip
whole depot
What scares me is the final alarm and the final door
keen solar
At first, I stealthed those rooms. But now I just shoot them and trigger the room instead
thorny current
the final alarm is easy with cfoam
whole depot
I suppose
keen solar
Yep
thorny current
2-3 mines and the rest is your skill
keen solar
D1 needs good communication and resources control😂
whole depot
Mhm
I love the first half tho
The replayability is insane
The second half feels like a reward for surviving the first half
thorny current
I am not a great fan of R3D1 in general
swift reef
D1 is just C1 reversed + 2 mothers and a handful of giants
keen solar
Before the sentry bug fixed, D1 was so easy and you won’t even die in that second alarm door
whole depot
Also, is it considered cheap or scummy to find and use a bunch of parkour spots across the various levels to survive enemies? Spots like above the terminal in C1?
keen solar
Damage multiplier based on the number of players in the team
swift reef
Oh I remember that
whole depot
Like the spot where only giants and shooters could hit you
swift reef
So you’re talking about the shelves
keen solar
There are so many place you can do that
whole depot
Ye
keen solar
There are cheese, safespots, bla bla bla
whole depot
Are they considered cheap by the majority of players?
keen solar
I think for experienced players, yes
swift reef
Not really because you can usually get hit there
keen solar
I only use cheese when I’m with friends and we have already completed the level
whole depot
Ah
swift reef
I just never go for the really high safe spots, but I wouldn’t consider a few shelves cheese unless it’s abused
whole depot
I've used it to solo survive a double scout wave on C1, but that's really it
swift reef
Yeah, then it’s probably cheese
swift reef
Just hammer them
whole depot
You right lol
swift reef
Or sniper/hel rifle
atomic robin
we need a proper definition for cheese in this game, do we have one?
swift reef
Probably just safe spots
atomic robin
but that would be incredibly stupid tbh
whole depot
A tactic that allows for results wildly disproportionate to the skill and effort put in, I guess.
keen solar
If you can hit striker or big boy without getting hit by them and shooters, it’s called cheese spot. If you cant get hit by the striker and you can’t hit them with melee either, that’s called the safe spot.
whole depot
Ah
atomic robin
the players using the map to their advantage should be a tactical manuver
whole depot
That's a pretty good distinction
whole depot
Oh, you mean like getting on the reactor on A3?
keen solar
That would be safe spot I guess
whole depot
Yeah
atomic robin
i see, that sounds like a good distinction
whole depot
As opposed to the spot behind the half-wall in C1's triple-security door room
That I've heard is cheese
keen solar
There are a lot
swift reef
Never heard of many cheese spots in this run
keen solar
As long as you spend time to find them 😂
swift reef
Probably the shelves
atomic robin
not the shelves
honestly i miss the fog skip, that should've stayed in the game imo
keen solar
Lots of cheese come from R2. Some of them are in the same location 😂
swift reef
I hope there is no cheese spot as blatant as a thin wall
keen solar
It’s boring when you complete the game with cheese