gtfo-related-questions

[shrewd dirge]

its truly fascinating.

a modern mystery.

[craggy pier]

@gusty falcon Humanity is disappointing. You're expecting too high of them.

[gusty falcon]

🤔 Does that mean they are thinking too high of me aswell?

[craggy pier]

Who knows. Only Lordvig the almighty knows the answer to who many seek.

[lime folio]

Hey, is D1 remotely possible as duo? For background, me and my bud were able to do all expeditions up until D1 as a duo, including A3 pre-patch.

[spark wolf]

Actually struggling a bit to duo that one too

But I'm sure it's possible

[lime folio]

Alright, thanks dude.

[spark wolf]

while you got that alarm going you kind of really don't want any of you to go down

difficult recovery

[lime folio]

Well me and my bud just got done with C1 last night so were not familiar with anything on D1 yet.

All I know is something big is waiting at the end, but I'm not so sure what it would be

[spark wolf]

[toxic knot]

y game optimized so bad

[pliant herald]

I don't have any real performance issues, so I don't know why you say that

[craggy pier]

The game is still in EA and optimization is in their priority list

[flat rock]

Hey, is D1 remotely possible as duo? For background, me and my bud were able to do all expeditions up until D1 as a duo, including A3 pre-patch.
@lime folio The level has been solo'd to my understanding, so duo should be possible.

[weary relic]

^

[rain python]

Funny thing is that solo would be easier than duo

Duo you really rely on coordination especially if you need to kite. In solo you have all the flexibility in the decision making

And in duo if someone goes down it’s very difficult to recover as Wesley mentioned somewhere above

[frail kestrel]

how do you solve the host revive only have 0% hp issue?

[craggy pier]

||use a med kit hehe||

[frail kestrel]

so i guess there's no solution for it?

[craggy pier]

As of late no

IIRC its not intentional

[frail kestrel]

well this starts to get annoying when one player has a handicaped revive

[lilac fulcrum]

it's a bug being worked on

[rain python]

You get the guy who never revives anyone to host c;

[craggy pier]

b r u h

[rotund creek]

im probably late to the table with this but are the devs aware that the recent turret patch has made them completely useless?

[weary relic]

@rotund creek are u big dumb? They are still effective.... maybe if you actually set them up right

[neon gust]

i cannot rely on my sentries to do my job anymore

[odd drum]

idk, after patch we set up 2 turrets for the alarm door into zone 17 on R3C1. One. One enemy. That's all that survived

I think they're fine. Just need proper placement

[neon gust]

i mean ss could use a spread buff ( in the sense of a tiny bit smaller spread so it doesnt dicipate at 9 m) but thats just my opinion

and bs a lower fire rate

[weary relic]

no

[bright niche]

no

[rotund creek]

well three or four runs and the turrets havent slowed or killed anything

[bright niche]

DONT let it sprad

spread

then get good

[weary relic]

they dont need a change except an ammo buff for BS

[neon gust]

oh shit let me edit

[bright niche]

its honestly just a crappy placement

[rotund creek]

but thanks for prepubescent replies 👍

[neon gust]

have better sentry placement

SS only work at 5-10 m now

past that doesnt do anything

still one shots sleepers in the back

so put them on small chokepoints and doorways to maximize the damage

[weary relic]

@neon gust ♿

[rotund creek]

i know how turrets work pal

[weary relic]

for the downvote

bet

[neon gust]

wut

[minor fractal]

@neon gust Fairly sure damage dropoff doesn't start until 10m?

[neon gust]

im assuming spread affects the damage of the ss

if all pellets hits

also accuracy

[minor fractal]

Yah, spread matters, but it's not actually losing damage per pellet until 10m.

[neon gust]

your loosing damage if a pellet its not hitting

[tidal seal]

chaps, if we open the warden door on R3B1, does that start the infinity wave?

even tho we havent done the last terminal?

[craggy pier]

No.

[tidal seal]

so i can just leave that open before the last terminal?

[craggy pier]

Infinite spawns happen after the last terminal

[quaint marlin]

God bless you Ricardo

[tidal seal]

u hopefully saved our duo asses thanks mate

[craggy pier]

Do that warden door first

since its the harder one

[spark wolf]

that host revive really adds on to a difficult recover for duos

the host pretty much has to try and hold ground after reviving teammate

or they'll just instantly die again

(in scenarios where there's still enemies around, from unfinished alarms)

Rundown 3 making it harder to gain distance also doesn't help with that

[tidal seal]

@craggy pier thanks dude, we made it

[craggy pier]

Noice

Good job

[tidal seal]

we made the warden tdoor first, then the two sides but we werent sure if the wave starts once u open the W one

thanks

first duo win on B1

[shrewd dirge]

does anyone have a hard time hearing enemies behind you?

[tidal seal]

nope

[flat rock]

Does anyone know if B1 evac is sped up by more people or not

[weary relic]

yeah, it is

[flat rock]

Figured, thanks for confirm

[weary relic]

np

[tidal seal]

@flat rock not too many coming, so doesnt really matter

[flat rock]

It does for why I asked 🙂

[worthy shore]

so im running A3 and we do it compeltely fine but the moment we hit wave 4/6 my teammates start lagging badly why?

[vital sierra]

they spawn consistently more

and instead of 2 waves

you will have 3 - 4 waves

[subtle brook]

Does difficulty scale with the number of players?

[kind trail]

nope

game is built for 4 and meant for 4

[subtle brook]

damn

[kind trail]

you can get away with 2-3 depending on the level

[subtle brook]

thats kinda sick actually

[kind trail]

i’ve personally done a levels as a duo

[subtle brook]

me and my buds stil havent managed a single A level even as a foursome

cant imagine duos

also another random question... is the biotracker good at A level?

[kind trail]

well it depends

nah, it’s generally p good

i usually run 2 sentry, one bio, and one mine

Depending if there’s a lack of c-foam, i usually try and bring that instead of the mines

[weary dust]

is it intended i wasnt able to see lobbies on my first ever mission?

[jovial wharf]

There's.. no matchmaking?

[weary dust]

oh

[jovial wharf]

You can't join random lobbies.

[weary dust]

thanks for the info

didnt know

[jovial wharf]

It's in the disclaimer XD

[weary dust]

ah its not a big deal

i have friends who play it, i just thought it was possible

theres a lfg chat here anyway, so i will manage

[jovial wharf]

If you want to try the game look at #lfg-beginners

[weary dust]

yes, thank you!

[jovial wharf]

Yeah look at the LFG chats! I've played through with only randoms.

[untold tiger]

Are there any good guides on how to deal with certain enemies?

[jovial wharf]

Not to my knowledge. I've been wanting to write a guide though.

Who are you having trouble with?

[untold tiger]

we keep struggling with bigger enemies quite frequently

[jovial wharf]

This chat is full of helpful people.

[untold tiger]

the enemies that require 4 hits?

the big guys

and the scout too

[jovial wharf]

Ah, the big strikers and shooters.

[untold tiger]

we tried 4x hit to the back and it didnt seem to work very well

[jovial wharf]

So, are you guys aiming for the back or head?

All of you are fully charged?

[untold tiger]

yeah

im thinking maybe one of us missed

[jovial wharf]

Maybe! It's common to miss if you aren't used to it. The hit staggers them, so you can miss easily.

I usually have one person jump up and hit the back of the head.

The trick is to never stop hitting until you're sure they're dead XD

[untold tiger]

are any of them weaker in the head than the back? i read a guide saying that back is safer incase you dont initially kill them

but it didnt seem to work all that well when we tried

(the wiki, not really a guide )

[jovial wharf]

Back and front of the head is same damage multiplyer I think.

Back of the head is the most damage.

[untold tiger]

oh that's pretty useful to know thanks!

can you melee scouts at all?

or is it better to sniper them?

[jovial wharf]

It's best to melee if you're.. you know. Good and practiced. Fully charged shot to the head.

Sniper is the safest. If you do go for melee, I'd wait for the scout to activate near a sharp corner, then smack it.

[vital sierra]

back of the head deal the most damage

[untold tiger]

do sniper shots alert surrounding enemies?

[vital sierra]

yes

[jovial wharf]

HEL rifle will fill the same role as a sniper, not the HEL gun

If you're far enough away, and in another room you can sometimes get a shot where enemies aren't alerted.

It's hard to get that sightline though.

[untold tiger]

does the revolver work too?

or is it too weak

[jovial wharf]

You need a shot to the back of the Scouts head, from a semiclose distance.

I've never seen it done though.

We usually just hammer the scout or someone has a sniper/HEL rifle..

[untold tiger]

alright thats good to know. we just gotta practice a ton then hah

[jovial wharf]

The pump shotgun works too, back of the head and close range

[untold tiger]

thanks for all your help!

[jovial wharf]

No worries! Tons of people are here to help.

[vital sierra]

why is the Hel Rifle so shit?

1 shot can't even kill a shooter on the stomach

[placid cobalt]

same with the shotgun

whats your point lmao

[vital sierra]

i thought it would be a little like sniper pre-buff

[placid cobalt]

it is

just slighlty less stronk

[vital sierra]

this is like a nerf sniper

from R1

at least R1 sniper kill shooter in 1 shot

[distant ice]

why would you try to bodyshot a shooter with the sniper

@untold tiger big strikers have 240 health, full charge hammer does 40. They have 1.5x mult on head and 2x on the back (making it 3x occiput). 3 guys that hit him from behind will be exactly enough to kill him. Note that they don't have back hitboxes, it depends on your position to sleeper direction which is sometimes misleading. 2 of you must've either missed entirely, not had a full charge or not hit the back

[vital sierra]

i want to test A3 with Hel Rifle since Hel gun are good in A3

[distant ice]

i find hel gun better than hel rifle, hel rifle just gives you a free pass to bodyshot a bunch of strikers

but it's unusable because of the long delay between shots

[untold tiger]

Alright thank you for the extra info 🙂

[random locust]

I find the opposite is true, I find the hel rifle better cause you need the time to line up collats anyway, whereas the hel gun feels like a cross btween the revolver and the hel rifle and isnt enough of either to be useful

[vital sierra]

but the thing is

you can't kill shooter with body shot

and it don't have that much ammo

it's barely kill striker with body shot

[random locust]

it kills striker 1shot tho, has decent hipfire for mid/close range and im gonna use hammers on shooters anyway

(im only up to b2 btw im prolly not as far in as you alpha)

pairs well with high ammo primaries like bullpup and smg, which can fuful personal defence in a pinch

also you know that little burst of serotonin you get when you pop a sleeper with an orange hitmarker

"take your best hitmarker, multiply the feeling by twenty, and you're still fuckin miles off the pace" cause you can get two or more of those cheeky hitmarkers at once

and oh boy once you get a line of sleepers running at you you will wish you brought the weapon that could take them all down in one shot

[vital sierra]

it's weak against giant

it barely kill shooter

it have barely enough damage to kill a striker

it has

4/23 (100%)

you have about 5 - 6 mags

the Hel rifle = 1.5 Hel gun

[random locust]

it's weak against giant
I'll give you that, but thats what your squadmates packing 3 combat shotguns are for right?
it barely kill shooter
use hammer and finish shooters after the fight, no boolets required
it have barely enough damage to kill a striker
If it kills, it kills
you have about 5 - 6 mags
yep, that is what your high ammo primary is for.
I see the Hel rifle as a great special weapon: huge (but situational) potential through collats, limited ammo, and less use in face to face combat than a primary, with the added ability to pop scouts

[vital sierra]

it feel like the R1 sniper

[distant ice]

everything rocket said is truth but hel gun exists

[vital sierra]

^

i acknowledge those facts

but

it's only dealt 1.5 times more damage

[random locust]

but if it 1shots strikers then you dont need to fire twice, right

[vital sierra]

you can headshot 1 shot

same charge time?

[gleaming mango]

body better for collats

[distant ice]

the bullet is so tiny that i'm always gonna be aiming for those crawlers anyway, they'll get headshot and others will take good damage

[gleaming mango]

also im pretty sure hel rifle does scout 1 shot to the head so it also has some utility

[random locust]

yeah, if you are going for heads yep, but collats are where its at for the hel weapons

[distant ice]

and it can actually fire twice to finish off the others

[vital sierra]

Hel gun can kill scout

[distant ice]

hel gun can oneshot to occiput

[vital sierra]

on the back of the head

if the hel rifle have a little more damage boost

[random locust]

can you stealth snipe from another room tho?

[vital sierra]

yes?

but if you want to stealth snipe

bring sniper

[distant ice]

stealth sniping in R3

[vital sierra]

it's more easier

[gleaming mango]

hammering scouts it where its at

[vital sierra]

i don't stealth snipe anymore (or ever)

if the room gonna be awake

then uh

deal with it

at least no scout wave

[gleaming mango]

for me secondary is either combat shotgun or revolveer

[random locust]

the way i see ranged scout killing atm: sniper/hel rifle for distance, DMR, revolver, Hel gun for closer range

but hel rifle and sniper have way longer range and can actually stealth snipe

[gleaming mango]

im pretty sure dmr has to double tap occiput

for the scout

[vital sierra]

double tap

1 occiput

1 any

[random locust]

i checc wiki

[vital sierra]

anyway

i just here to rant about hel rifle being suck

and just testing strat for A3 solo that's not involve hel gun

[gleaming mango]

i still think hel rifle is good but honestly i dont find a lot of use cases out of a3

[random locust]

A3 solo prolly a different meta

[vital sierra]

i'm just pick random guns to kill the wave

rifle/dmr + combat shotgun/shotgun

[random locust]

i just see scout killers (hel rifle vs sniper) as similar but different: can kill scouts, (giant killing vs Collaterals)

[gusty falcon]

For A3 I used DMR and Shotgun or Rifle and Hel Gun

[willow brook]

use rifle and sniper :3

[gusty falcon]

I might give the sniper a go for A3, I like it a lot since D1 Pistol/Sniper

[thorny current]

I used DMR and Sniper on D1^^

[wintry umbra]

can you customize load out or is it random?

[lilac fulcrum]

you can choose your weapons and tool

[wintry umbra]

thats cool i was thinking of picking the game up today

prob gunna grab it within the hour, i really like atmospheric games like this, reminds me kind of like a dead space vibe

How does the load out system work by the way? Is it by points or more like pick one item from each category, class based?

[distant ice]

one item from each category, no restrictions otherwise

[wintry umbra]

That’s pretty cool thank you for answering my question

[weary dust]

hello people

is the game scaled

or nah

so if i play with 2 people, is the game still thinking we are 4

or does it scale with the amount of players?

[lilac fulcrum]

@weary dust there is not scaling, balanced to 4 people

[weary dust]

okay

thank

[gusty falcon]

Why does no one read

the description

This saddens me

[craggy pier]

It's on the steam page :9

[gusty falcon]

🤔 Actually, is there a change they came here before knowing it wa on steam?

Some people ask if it is on other platforms

[pliant herald]

How did they find it if they don't read it somewhere

[gusty falcon]

Friends telling them

Hey man, you know GTFO? Here is there discord

hands over ruined post-it

[lilac fulcrum]

server discovery

[short cargo]

does anyone know how the ||spitters|| interact with other sleepers, it seems like they get triggered with no real consistency

[lilac fulcrum]

Those guys?

[fleet fiber]

They trigger sleepers within a short radius; about the distance you take damage from

Anything outside a short distance from them will not get triggered

[rapid meadow]

Does anyone have tips on how to beat the last mission of rundown3?

I can get past the security check with the grinder door but after that I keep failing at the next security check, I forget the zone names

[short cargo]

cool thanks

[shy spoke]

hey guys, I havent played GTFO for awhile now, missed the previous rundown. Has there been any changes to the mechanics of the game that I should know of before jumping in?

please try to be spoiler free though. I wanna find out the new enemies, items etc myself. Just looking for anything related to how I'll have to play compared to before

[distant ice]

you'll notice the sleepers are faster

don't think any mechanics are different beyond that

[shy spoke]

oh nice

got some friends that are new to the game, so i wanna be able to explain the core mechanics to them

without being wrong cause of some update

[fleet fiber]

Missing a hack now alerts the room @shy spoke

[craggy pier]

if you hit the ground you'll alert sleepers now

[shy spoke]

oh oof

[craggy pier]

instantly

[weary relic]

@craggy pier

[fleet fiber]

Thanks Ricardo!

[weary relic]

thats been since R2

not r3

[distant ice]

Ye

[flat rock]

They hadn't played R2 Neko

[shy spoke]

yea, ive missed r2

[distant ice]

Oh

[weary relic]

oh

[craggy pier]

F

[weary relic]

whoops

[shy spoke]

played r1, then stopped since i had other games to play

havent played since

[weary relic]

i started R1 and took a break till a month in to R2

[shy spoke]

welp, no more slamming the ground like a monkey for fun

[flat rock]

There's a new system that was introduced in R2 that you'll be experiencing first the first time now too, enjoy that (or don't) lol

[weary relic]

it was a yikes when i returned

[craggy pier]

welp, no more slamming the ground like a monkey for fun
there is a range in which sleepers will be alerted

But try to find that info out yourself

haha

[shy spoke]

summer sale is on and GTFO is 20% off

which is why my friends are getting it

[craggy pier]

Alert a room and lock them in there

It'd make for some great laughs

[flat rock]

It's got a discount for the new rundown release as well, good time to rope more prisoners I mean people into playing the game 😋

[craggy pier]

Same thing tbh

[shy spoke]

cant wait to go deaf cause 1 friend will be screaming her head off

[craggy pier]

lol

[flat rock]

Ah yes, I dealt with a friend who did that too

I've been diagnosed with stage 10 hearing loss as a result

[shy spoke]

she already screams enough when playing non-horror games

cant wait to see (or hear) wat happens here

[craggy pier]

Loud person plays GTFO| GONE WRONG | hearing aids makers hate it

bruh

anyone know how to make a suggestion

?suggestionthen your suggestion

[weary relic]

^

[craggy pier]

where do i type it?

[weary relic]

bot spam usually

[craggy pier]

Here or #bot-commands

kk

[craggy pier]

@severe patio Regarding your question in lfg when you list resources in the terminal it lists all the resources that are there in the zone and have not been picked up yet by a player

When you ping something you can go out the terminal or ask a friend to look around for the ping

[orchid owl]

How much less damage does the burst sentry do compared to the shotgun sentry?

[minor fractal]

24 per burst (8 per shot)
60 per shell (12 per pellet)

[weary relic]

did you check the pellet count @minor fractal

[minor fractal]

5 pellets

This has been well known since R1

[weary relic]

i was just wondering if it had changed at all

[minor fractal]

Nope.

[weary relic]

ok

[honest narwhal]

I've been wondering. What exactly does "Layered Difficulty" mean in the backlog of stuff the devs are working on? Does anyone know?

[shrewd dirge]

layering difficulty generally refers to increasing the amount of things each player is expected to manage simultaneously.

however, its not to be confused with adding additional mechanics alone.

[honest narwhal]

as in difficulty will be different for 2 people compared to 4 people? or am i reading it wrong?

[shrewd dirge]

thats different.

think of layered difficulty like a juggler

its not the amount of balls he's expected to juggle

but its about if he's juggling, on a unicycle, while spinning plates.

the benefit of a layered difficulty approach benefits the learner by the ability to introduce each idea separately.

[honest narwhal]

Would the wall pustules be an example of that then? since those are added to the regular sneaking around you do

[shrewd dirge]

sure, as annoying and unfun as they are.

[honest narwhal]

Agreed on that lol. But i understand then. Thanks for the clarification!

[brisk coral]

Just booted up for the first time in months. What's special about the Hel Gun and Hel Rifle?

[shrewd dirge]

peircing rounds.

[weary relic]

they bad

jk

very situational

[brisk coral]

Really wish they put actual stat info for the various weapons beyond vague descriptions. Which weapons are most effective?

[craggy pier]

most people like to pick a fast firing gun, bullpup, carbine, AR and shotgun/combat shotgun

from my experience

most generally effective will probably be whichever ones you feel best using

[vital sierra]

i will make people cringe

[craggy pier]

?

[vital sierra]

with my dmr/Hel rifle build

FEAR ME

[brisk coral]

I can't recall, but are any of the weapons suppressed?

[shrewd dirge]

no

[glass bison]

Hey quick question, new to the game. I heard there were more missions such as Rundown 1 and Rundown 2, how do we access them?
I only see 7 missions from Rundown 3

[craggy pier]

Those were replaced with R3

[pale tapir]

When the new rundowns come out, they replace the previous

[craggy pier]

We won't be able to play previous rundowns

[pale tapir]

No way to access old ones

[weary relic]

maybe someday

[glass bison]

oh okay, will they ever come back?

isn't it better to have a lot more content with all 3 rundowns in the game at once?

[weary relic]

no

because other rundowns are not meant for objects added into the game at later dates

[vital sierra]

if they let the other rundown there

it could mean the gameplay will be bugged

like in R1 we have thick fog but not poison gas

with R2, we're introduced with poison gas

so R1 will be a messed

[meager fractal]

Hello! I am thinking about getting GTFO and before i spend any money I'd like to ask if its worth it/ the general experience of playing it. I'm not really aware at all of what its like besides of it's horror and first person shooter cooperative aesthetic. I watched a review on it but because its early access it seems like a review from 5 months ago could be outdated.

[frigid meadow]

id recommend watching 10 chambers' video on how the rundown works, but basically after a certain period of time "2 weeks to 2 months" the entire set missions gets replaced by a new one, so far we've gotten two new ones (rundown 3 currently) and they've succeeded in twisted the gameplay in interesting and mostly fair ways, altho some people complain about later levels being a bit too rng based. I've been here since the first rundown id definitely recommend the game, for a price of $35 (not even a full $60) and it has small discounts frequently, id say it's definitely worth your buck. tho you should know that when they say co-op, they mean it, sometimes it wont be like other games where one person can carry (maybe in earlier missions and there are people who solo even later missions) but gtfo is a pretty difficult game. most of it will be stealth so you will need patience, but there are forced loud segments to force resource management

also side question, anyone know why they added a visual to terminal pings in the world? im not against as it makes finding stuff more manageable but i feel like just having the sound fit the game's difficulty, especially since the terminal tells you what specific room the item is in

[craggy pier]

Maybe the warden implanted HUDs on our masks or microchipped us for that purpose

[frigid meadow]

@meager fractal continuing i thought i should mention this discord has a lot of nice and chill people, out of the few hundred or so ive played with ive only met two toxic people, one of which wasnt even toxic but they got banned for it before lmao.

@craggy pier that would make sense but im asking more from a game design perspective

not so much lore based

[meager fractal]

@frigid meadow oh that is excellent! Is their a gap in anything besides skill between veteran and new players?

[lilac fulcrum]

If you haven't seen the Rundown 3 Trailer (Be warned, there are some spoilers like enemies, environment, weapons): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bh21ksQqgKM

And this video explains the Rundown process: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHZwiPVOVvA

[craggy pier]

Quite a bit I would say, some people had already exceeded 1k hours

[frigid meadow]

yeah and there are also the legends/masochists that are the solo players

but i think the game is more fun with 4 people anyway

@meager fractal if you want some gameplay that isnt spoiling markiplier has videos of him and his friends doing the first rundown

also fun fact 10 chambers is made of vets from payday franchise

if you've played those game you'll notice a lot of similar aspects

[meager fractal]

Thanks for the Markiplier recommendation. Im currently watching. I'm def leaning towards purchasing

[digital gate]

It's a really good game with friends

I just remember seeing in my steam queue, seeing the trailer and then thinking "I want this"

GTFO is also one of the only early-access games I play

[shrewd dirge]

i've played a few early access games, and honestly, GTFO has already passed my expectations of early access, and i personally rank it as a game with Beta level of bugs.
some parts of enemy interactions need to be tweaked, and wave spawns could use additional logic checks as to where an enemy is allowed to be placed.
as it stands, with the discord it is still possible to form a respectable party with pubs, that can clear any mission.
if you dont have a mic, or dont intend to buy a mic, or dont have a phone to use discord with as a mic; you might not want to be playing communication based games like this one.

[distant ice]

@craggy pier same but as soon as i started playing it myself i kinda went "man mark sucks"

[dreamy pecan]

||what is the best special weapon to take down chargers?||

[weary relic]

the shotguns or sniper

Sniper will OSK them and shotguns are similar to any other enemy

[digital gate]

do scouts scream when they hear a gunshot or just extend feelers?

ok

[weary relic]

big .

[digital gate]

wait, does noise work off rooms?
because on the wiki it says "loud noises in the same room"

[weary relic]

sometimes

it is supposed to be 30m away and in another room

but its been pretty inconsistent recently

[wintry umbra]

I had a question about consumables, what do the syringe injectors do?

[vital sierra]

?t syringe

[eager jacinth]

Spoiler: What each syringe does: ||The red one gives you health, but also infection, the yellow/green one buffs your hammer for short time, also gives you infection.||

[vital sierra]

^

[wintry umbra]

ty

[digital gate]

yellow one allows you to one hit big strikers with a fully charged shot to the back of the head, for more detail

[spark wolf]

I don't think it has to be the head?

Just the back should be enough

[vital sierra]

idk

let me test

nope

need to be the head Wesley

[cunning crest]

At 1:43 in the trailer for GTFO there's a giant tentacle that attacks the player before cutting and showing the title screen

Is this tentacle from an enemy in the game today? I bought the game yesterday but I'm super curious if it's in the game or not

[spark wolf]

rip

but i guess it would stagger from the back hit and you'd probably be able to kill it pretty quick with a second hit

At 1:43 in the trailer for GTFO there's a giant tentacle that attacks the player before cutting and showing the title screen

Is this tentacle from an enemy in the game today? I bought the game yesterday but I'm super curious if it's in the game or not
||no||

[distant ice]

I thought the syringe was 3x damage in which case back of big striker would kill

It sure looked like it was more than 2x anyway

[vital sierra]

need a back of the head to kill giant

just jump in and test

well

if it's x3 then that's the exact amount

....

wait

need to check that first

oh

x2

[spark wolf]

so would a full charge scout bodyshot with the syringe active actually kill it

from the front

[vital sierra]

yes

i tried that

multiple times

i like DRUGS

i blame devs

[spark wolf]

wouldn't that be kind of weird

as the full charge to the back of head

is usually required

and is probably more than x2

?

[digital gate]

the syringe multiplies melee damage by x3 last time i checked

[spark wolf]

idk man

its weird

[digital gate]

yeah

[spark wolf]

[vital sierra]

i mean

i can test it again

IF A GIANT SPAWN

[spark wolf]

if it's x3 a full charge on the back of giant should kill

if it's x2 and allows you to body shot scout

that would mean that if 2 players sync a full charge bodyshot it should also kill a scout

👀

[vital sierra]

well yess

wait

that's not

i'm confused

[spark wolf]

[vital sierra]

it's 3x

[distant ice]

so you missed the back the 1st time

How do you miss the back

Actually i guess i should ask that to every group of newbies that come here with the giant melee question

[vital sierra]

no

you need to be at exact back

if i go left a bit

it didn't count

that's why some ppl said they hit the back 3 times and didn't kill the giant

the a big area to hit

but does it count as "back" is the question

[spark wolf]

hmm

but for small enemies

the back multiplier doesn't seem to be based around where your hit lands

but purely your position

if you stand behind the sleeper and hit the cheek

you still get the back multiplier

[vital sierra]

i think they used the small enemy model

so when it big it become inconsistence

that's the same hit i did in my other test

i need to test... again

[distant ice]

There is no back hitbox, it's your position vs sleeper direction

But sleeper direction is deceptive sometimes

[vital sierra]

yes

but the range of that are like

the back side

[flat rock]

Just the back should be enough
I have absolutely simply hit the back of a big with IIX active before and killed on many occasions.

[swift reef]

any recommendations for B1 duo?

[thorny current]

cfoam and mines

[gusty falcon]

DMR / Sniper perhaps? @thorny current Dx

[craggy pier]

^^^Only true legends run that kit.

[thorny current]

Cool I am a true legend then xD Sure when kiting works DMR/Sniper can happen @gusty falcon xD

[spark wolf]

you can hold ground in a duo

uplinks are very doable to defend without any setup aswell

[thorny current]

That is true.

I used Rifle and HEL Rifle and cfoam for my Duo on B1

my duo partner used Bullpup and Burst Cannon and mines

[gusty falcon]

That duo partner is lucky to have you

[thorny current]

xD

[gusty falcon]

lol :P

[stable axle]

any guides out there for completely new players who wanna learn some core stuff before playing with others?

[distant ice]

Wiki how to play, reddit guides and steam guides

I suggest jumping in solo just to get familiar and feel the atmosphere

[stable axle]

okie, ty

[short cargo]

any tips for sentry placement for the first 2 alarm doors in b2?

it feels like more sleepers spawn since the last time we've done it

[rain python]

First alarm at spawn aiming at stairs. Second alarm at the door entering that long hallway. It’s the big door straight ahead after opening no alarm security door

[short cargo]

cool thank you

[rain python]

Let me know how it goes

[minor fractal]

@stable axle
GTFO REDDIT GUIDES:
Scouts: https://www.reddit.com/r/GTFO/comments/gjmvsc/guide_how_to_kill_scouts_wout_cfoam_or_guns/
Multi-kills: https://www.reddit.com/r/GTFO/comments/h9yduw/gtfo_multikill_guide_stealthing_clusters_solo_w/

[weary relic]

RIP

[distant ice]

@minor fractal for the enemies attacking without looking at you, i think it's just an ai thing where it doesn't matter to them which way they are facing, it matters whether you can be hit by their attack

which leads them to attacking at weird angles

it would kind of make sense lore-wise maybe depending on how the infection works, like using the body is unnatural to them but i don't know where lore is going

[copper badge]

Are all the weapons relatively balanced to a point where its just preference or are there best in slot options?

[distant ice]

Most of them are fine and your team can help you make them work

[copper badge]

Okay cool, i was just curious if there was any extensive datamining on dps or anything like that

[distant ice]

There's a sheet

[minor fractal]

Special weapons tend to be much more situational, while main weapons are mostly doing the same thing differently. Everything but the DMR, pistol, and carbine has a place in the meta, and carbine has a niche use as a damage-focused main.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TLAEQjYkB8eT67iz2PejtbGBe83YTjUNsf5DlAixegs/edit#gid=812794995

[distant ice]

How the turntables on burst praise r2 vs r3

I guess the non burst variant of the respective gun is not shit this time so

[minor fractal]

BR was never good either, although it's better than carbine at the same tasks

In-fact, I'm not really sure they could be placed in the same rundown unless they were rebalanced for different roles.

One of them needs to be reconstructed to have a kill focus and one of them needs to go even deeper into the damage focus.

[distant ice]

Eh I don't think they have any intention of doing that

[shrewd dirge]

tips for mele'ing active large strikers?

[jolly zealot]

If you're solo, trigger his melee attack by going towards him, hit once he's done.
Otherwise let a non focussed player hit him so you can stagger him.

Hit legs for easy stagger

[shrewd dirge]

is it possible to duck under the mele at all?

[jolly zealot]

As far as I know, if you're near his melee attack you'll just get hit regardless of what you're doing

Most of the time your best bet is just to shoot him, it's less risky

[brittle pier]

quick question. can hel gun can kill a scout in one shot?

[jovial wharf]

Occiput shot I think so.

[vital sierra]

occiput

[high badge]

@brittle pier hel rifle and sniper can idk about hel gun

Shot in the head of course

[brittle pier]

gotcha...occiput as in back of the head?

[vital sierra]

ye

[high badge]

I dont think it has ti be the back

[vital sierra]

but you need to be at the back side

don't shot from the side if you see the occiput

[high badge]

Idk i usually just smack them with a full hammer

I dont really shoot them

[brittle pier]

i definitely killed it once by shooting at the head front side

the next time didnt work at all

[wintry umbra]

I was wondering how long should I wait before posting another invite in lfg for people to join me? I don't want to be spammy ya know

im thinking 5 min intervels?

ty friend

[bright niche]

Is there any plans to have strikers NOT choke themselves while tonguing you?

[noble jolt]

does anyone know what does the number like this 109775241000945620 mean

[weary dust]

game id i would say

Is there a chance old rundowns can be played again or are they gone forever?

[lilac fulcrum]

Is there a chance old rundowns can be played again or are they gone forever?
@weary dust They won't be playable again.

[fleet fiber]

Why do you quote the question if it is right above your answer? 😂

@noble jolt you copy that number. GTFO will auto-detect the code and use it to connect with your lobby (a red button should appear)

[noble jolt]

@fleet fiber I get it thanks

[still valve]

hi folks, I was wondering about the bio tracker. there are white dots for sleepers, red for scouts/triggered sleepers, but sometimes i did see a tiny red dot, like a few pixels, not really sure what that was. any ideas?

[pliant herald]

That's a bug

[vital sierra]

idk why but they fixed that tiny red dot in the Alpha test

and then it broke when it goes EA

[still valve]

i see

so it's just a random dot, or a wrong one representing the "real" white/red one?

[vital sierra]

a wrong one representing the "real" white/red one

[still valve]

thanks

[tired comet]

if someone in my lobby doesnt have any levels completed, can they still play the later gtfo levels as long as the host has them unlocked? can the host select any level, regardless of what the other lobby members have unlocked?

[distant ice]

yes and yes

[random locust]

ok so now i want to get to D1 and then post in LFG beginners and drag 3 unsuspecting players into the hardest lvl

[distant ice]

you'll get 3 rays instead thinking you're a newbie who needs help with D1

[dawn rivet]

how fast do devs create content for the game ?

[vital sierra]

depend on how many levels

[half raptor]

usually 2 - 3 months

R3 is a short one though

[distant ice]

but they're taking a vacation

if it's a whole month that'll be a big oof

[vital sierra]

i think is it Swede law

you need a summer vacation

[abstract crystal]

Hey, I'm new to GTFO and have 1 question - can I only do Rundown 3?

[rain python]

You can only play rundown 3 missions (a-d tier).

[abstract crystal]

Rightyo. TY. That was my exact question haha.

[rain python]

When a new rundown releases you can play that but cannot go back

[abstract crystal]

Ah, alright. TY.

[mental bridge]

Is there any plans to open up older rundowns again? I'm kind of disappointed that this content gets locked

[craggy pier]

Nope

[digital gate]

what about weapons? any plans to re-introduce the old ones from older rundowns?

[distant ice]

nothing said but there's only so many unique weapons you can think of, i'd expect the same weapon but a different model to come back

[digital gate]

I just wanna use the machine pistol, man

[vital sierra]

use the bulpup

[digital gate]

no

[weary relic]

literally the same gun. - the ammo and reload, and terrible damage

[abstract crystal]

any advice for new players? My partner and I tried all three of the tier a missions and fucking sucked ._.

[weary relic]

take it slow and coordinate while stealthing

also play with 4 ppl

[digital gate]

4 is the recommended amount of players

But 3 can also work

The difficulty does not scale up or down depending on player count

[weary relic]

^

[visual warren]

Can u slide?

[weary relic]

yeah

hold L-Ctrl while sprinting

[fleet fiber]

Or press if it’s toggle crouch

[weary relic]

^

[torpid shale]

how often will new episodes or missions come out? I wasnt here for 001 and 002

just got it a couple days a go during Rundown 003

[half raptor]

it will be 1-3 months before the next one comes out

Im pretty sure this one is a shorter one

[torpid shale]

ok thank you

[high badge]

yeah this one is shorter than the last two rundowns

if i remember correctly there were 1-3 more missions in the last two

this rundown only has 1 mission on c and d level

[craggy pier]

Yes

R1 had 6 missions
A1
B1,B2
C1,C2 and D1
R2 had 10 missions
A1
B1,2,3,4
C1,2
D1,2
E1

[strange ridge]

yo do the mines still one shot the scouts while not alerting sleepers?

[craggy pier]

yo do the mines still one shot the scouts while not alerting sleepers?
I wouldn't know that, but I'd be interested in finding out

[fleet fiber]

Um

Mine explosion alerts the room

[strange ridge]

i was sorting through the reddit top posts for gtfo and saw someone reccomending that

[fleet fiber]

That’s old

[strange ridge]

yea, thats why i was asking before i fucked over a team later down the line, thanks!

only just got the game this past weekend

[vital sierra]

it was fixed in R2

[strange ridge]

good to know

[normal seal]

How is the survival rate in the #the-warden messages calculated?
Is it the amount of players reaching the end of the rundown or just any level?
If the first, is that in succession without a TPK or can you die in between?

[distant ice]

you mean the Rundown Total specifically or just any expedition tweet

[normal seal]

This stat on the last tweet Prisoner survival rate: 7.24%

[distant ice]

well that doesn't answer my question but i'll just say how in general it works

every time you enter an expedition with a full team that's +4 to the dispatched count

[normal seal]

the rundown 😅

[distant ice]

if you survive the expedition even with casualties that's +4 to successful count

if you go in as 2 that's +2 and whatever, and the same person can count as many times as he enters

100 of those attempts or clears can be one person

the survival rate is just cleared/entered

and the total rundown rate clearly isn't just people who cleared the entire rundown, it's just all the separate levels added together

"entered the entire rundown" would be ambiguous anyway

[normal seal]

Cool thanks!

Clearing an entire rundown with <4 casualties after each mission seems like a good challenge 😉

[digital gate]

So I've seen people jump while sprinting, how do people do this?

[distant ice]

by pressing space while sprinting 🤔

[digital gate]

that doesn't work

[vital sierra]

but that's what i just did

[wanton arch]

check keybindings ?

[fluid osprey]

^Its very easy to do

[digital gate]

space is jump, shift is sprint

jumping while sprinting does nothing

[vital sierra]

maybe you're doing it wrong

hhhhmmmmmmmmmmmm

[digital gate]

how could I "do it wrong"

[vital sierra]

i don't know

[wanton arch]

i dont know but seems like you are doing tho lul

[vital sierra]

why ask me

when you're the one doing it

[wanton arch]

btw

since you are alpha

do you know of like the optimal placement for sentries in the first alarm of b2

[digital gate]

well screw me, you didn't tell me I had to have sprint toggle on

[wanton arch]

i have it turn off lul

[fluid osprey]

You could just hold shift?

[digital gate]

holding shift disables jump functionality

[wanton arch]

no it doesnt lul

[fluid osprey]

^

[digital gate]

for me it does

yeah something's up

when I have my jump set to something like alt

I can sprint jump fine

it's just space that screws it up

[random locust]

keyboard issue?

[digital gate]

as in space being broken?

if that's what you mean then no

[random locust]

nah like space+held Lshift being broken

[digital gate]

I'll check

aight yeah theres a problem

[vital sierra]

hold left shift + W, and then jump

ok

@wanton arch first alarm seem to just gun them down

even with turret they don't do much but waste ammo

you could use it to kill giants that spawn

they spawn at the extraction so they can run up to you really quick

[wanton arch]

yeah seems like it

cuz even if you place sentries they seem to go to you pretty fast

[vital sierra]

best that the turret kill the giant

[distant ice]

@digital gate keyboard ghosting

[digital gate]

what?

[distant ice]

google it

that's what's happening to you

most likely anyway

[digital gate]

maybe

I'll test the theory tomorrow

but it probably isn't

considering when I change the jump key it suddenly starts working

[distant ice]

...

you do know keyboard ghosting is based on your physical keyboard mapping

if you change the key and it starts working, what a fkn surprise

[digital gate]

fair enough

[vital sierra]

[distant ice]

try to do something with the same button combination in another game or just a text editor and see if it still doesn't work

[digital gate]

yeah I tried it in half life

It could also be a driver issue

I've seen people say that it's happened to them and that uninstalling and reinstalling the drivers fixed it

[vital sierra]

"did you try to turn it off and on again"kind of fix

[digital gate]

yeah except I have no clue with anything relating to drivers

[crude stream]

I have some questions/concerns with D1. FWIW, we completed R2 except E1. We have completed all of the levels in R3 within the first 3 or 4 attempts.

We have tried this level at least 50 times, and have never made it past the second alarm door.

How do we deal with the insane amount of enemies that spawn? And perhaps more importantly, how do we deal with the fact that they spawn anywhere they like, including on top of us?

None of the levels in R2 were like this. None of the levels in R3 have been like this. We could tell they moved faster and behaved... well, worse than they used to, in the earlier levels of R3. But it was manageable. D1 is just on another tier of difficulty, and it feels like it is artificially hard because of enemy behaviour. I don't mean to sound like I am bitching and moaning. I am just concerned that our experiences of the game has taken a nose dive since this latest patch that messed with enemy behaviour. Sleepers do not move smoothly, they glitch through objects, they teleport on top of you and are all-around hard to deal with. I understand that this may have been done to deal with the prominence of kiting in R2. But this feels like an over-correction.

Unless enemy behaviour is modified during this rundown, we probably won't be trying D1 any more. It feels like bashing your head against a wall.

[keen junco]

my understanding is that the strikers tongue attack is slightly more accurate now and their pathing has been made more accurate as well. The shotgun sentries receiving the damage nerf as opposed to ammunition reduction was kind of disappointing but they're now completely useless against the 2 giant strikers that spawn every wave.
I came very close to beating E1, got to 98% and then repeatedly got to the last room before dying but with D1 something feels off

[weary relic]

it the movement and attack speed of sleepers

[placid cobalt]

personally i find the movement speed to not play a large role in it.

[weary relic]

bad for kiting thats for sure

[keen junco]

you can't kite them anymore like the way it was done before

[weary relic]

hopefully it be fixed soon

[placid cobalt]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[spark wolf]

Other than the giants spawning on you, I think it's an ok difficulty for D tier when playing with 4

[placid cobalt]

^

[weary relic]

agreed

[placid cobalt]

even then they're not that hard to dispatch

especially with a revolver

[weary relic]

id honestly say it should be a C2

[spark wolf]

The problem is when you're playing with less people or similarly, having someone that would have usually carried you

[weary relic]

R2C2 was harder

[spark wolf]

It becomes a lot harder to recover as last man standing

[keen junco]

which is fine, the strategy shouldn't be kiting in this type of game or it at least shouldn't be the primary strategy for winning and neither should "sitting in a corner and blasting the bad guys." As it is now there's not enough utility tools to justify any other method.

[weary relic]

ye

[placid cobalt]

i mean

fall back and fire?

[keen junco]

that's just kiting though

[placid cobalt]

what if you're just falling back

not kiting them

[spark wolf]

R2C2 waves were easily manageable by yourself

[placid cobalt]

i do it all the time

[weary relic]

hard to fall back and fire when they keep up with ya

[placid cobalt]

just turn around and fire to stagger?

[weary relic]

but its not too much of a prob personally

[placid cobalt]

whats the issue

they kept up with you before

[weary relic]

hmm

the enemy speed is bugged

[placid cobalt]

its just a matter of how you use the environment to shortcut

[weary relic]

only chargers and shadows could

[keen junco]

right, but on a map like D1 there is no-where to fall back to. usually falling back is predicated upon having a contingency. like land mines pre-placed or a sentry gun covering your retreat. both methods are negated when you have enemies that can theoretically spawn behind or in front of you which is odd because this wasn't an issue on D1 in RunDown 1. Or it was if you dilly dallyied

[spark wolf]

Enemies move pretty much as fast all the time now. No matter if they're walking backwards/sideways or crawling

[placid cobalt]

i mean i just run away from them so i can funnel them through a point to focus them through

and i use the revolver half the time

which is arguably the worst special weapon in game

its just a better dmr

[distant ice]

it's the best precision weapon

[placid cobalt]

right

but have you seen a random use it

[distant ice]

who needs stagger when you can kill 6 sleepers in a second western style

[placid cobalt]

in the past few days

[distant ice]

i have not played with randoms

i play exclusively in duo

[placid cobalt]

heh

[distant ice]

and even in this situation where i cannot afford leisure, i take the revolver in some levels

[placid cobalt]

go into lfg and ill bet you in three different lobbies no one uses it

[distant ice]

i could almost bet you that 80% of the used weapons will be smg-cs

[placid cobalt]

as the CSG, SG and everyother special weapon out classes it

exactly

[distant ice]

fuck the meta

[placid cobalt]

its the genji of special guns

in a hardcore game

so like

10x more genji

[spark wolf]

kind of sucks how being host even affects shooting

combat shotgun is much more effective when you have good ping

dead enemies that don't drop down immediately and therefor just eat bullets

[placid cobalt]

thats host advantage bb

[distant ice]

that's somewhat a thing on host too i believe

[spark wolf]

I got used to clearing big waves with combat shotgun from A1 solo speedrun attempts

and then noticed how useless it was when not being host anymore

[distant ice]

i complained about host advantage from the very start and nobody believed me

you will all suffer now

[weary relic]

always

[crude stream]

my understanding is that the strikers tongue attack is slightly more accurate now and their pathing has been made more accurate as well. The shotgun sentries receiving the damage nerf as opposed to ammunition reduction was kind of disappointing but they're now completely useless against the 2 giant strikers that spawn every wave.
I came very close to beating E1, got to 98% and then repeatedly got to the last room before dying but with D1 something feels off
@keen junco

Exactly. Something feels very off compared to every other level.

R2C2 was far easier than this, and that constant error alarm was easy to deal with. Kiting them is not my gripe - it is the fact that shooting them is way harder now as their movement is very unpredictable and erratic. I have watched the 'error wave' - sleepers and the giant spawn in the same room as me several times. How are you expected to deal with SUDDEN enemies? It just doesn't feel right, nor is it fun.

[old arch]

Do anyone know if mobs take fall damage? I don't think they do, but I have no way to Verify

[lilac fulcrum]

Do mobs even fall off anything? I don't think their pathing allows them to fall off ledges. I don't think they can take fall damage though.

[jolly zealot]

I was shoving a striker on a ledge just earlier to gain time and it wouldn't fall (not surprising though)

[jagged basin]

It's impossible to shove enemies off ledges, the stumble back and hit invisible walls, which I assume are the edges of their nav mesh

[flat rock]

If they took fall damage they'd die when jumping down ladders if they were damaged beforehand but they don't.

[craggy pier]

<@&408548765599793173> hello! so i recently purchased this great game gtfo and the game is not really of my type so in steam i tried to refund it and steam in not letting me refund and in the purchased history its not showing up that i even purchased the game can you guys help me out with this? ( plz ping me when you awnser as it is a big server and there are a lot of questions)

[atomic quarry]

Please do not ping moderators unless it's extremely important. Furthermore, only Steam support can help you out with the refund process.

[sturdy dew]

have you refreshed the page

[craggy pier]

yes i did

sorry for the ping

[sturdy dew]

Well its likely a steam problem that its not showing up, nothing we can do about it as far as i know, and its fine just try to make sure you only use a moderator ping when its something important like nazo said

[craggy pier]

my bad is there any way i could create a steam ticket

[jagged basin]

If you've played the game for more than 2 hours it's not eligible for a refund and wouldn't show up I'd assume

[craggy pier]

i played it for 64 mins....

[sturdy dew]

nah everything shows up in recent purchases

[craggy pier]

not on mine for some reason

[sturdy dew]

youre on https://help.steampowered.com right?

[craggy pier]

yeah

[atomic quarry]

The only way to get a refund is by contacting Steam Support. I've been able to get in touch with them several times when refunding games and I've had no issues.

[sturdy dew]

so youve clicked on "games, software, etc." ?

[craggy pier]

yes

gtfo shows up

but im not able to refund it

[sturdy dew]

which category of problem are you choosing?

[craggy pier]

i tried going through gameplay and tecnical issues ( normally what you do for refunding games ) and it says contact game developers

and not a refund option

[sturdy dew]

you should use its not what i expected

if its not your kind of game

[craggy pier]

i looked for that option but its not here

[sturdy dew]

so you only have the help me fix gameplay or technical issues option?

[craggy pier]

yep

Unfortunately, Steam Support cannot provide the best assistance with games made by other companies.
Please click the link below for information about how to contact the support team for this game.

that what it says

[sturdy dew]

like i said it seems to be a steam issue, i have the option when i try to refund

[craggy pier]

exactly its a steam issue im facing this issue for the first time and i dont know how to deal with it

[sturdy dew]

have you put in a support ticket?

[craggy pier]

im not able to

[sturdy dew]

why not?

[craggy pier]

because normally when we have to put a steam ticket for a game it says contact steam support here it is saying steam support cannot provide the best assistance with game made by other companies

[sturdy dew]

okay have you tried seeing if you have the option when selecting the game purchase in the purchases category?

[lilac fulcrum]

You don't see the "request a refund" button?

[craggy pier]

its not showing that i have purchased the game in the purchases tab

nope

it dosent show up

[lilac fulcrum]

did you perhaps purchase under a different account? did you but it from steam directly or get a key from greenmangaming?

[craggy pier]

i bought it from this account and i bought it from steam directly

[lilac fulcrum]

https://store.steampowered.com/account/history

Does it show there at all?

[craggy pier]

no

[lilac fulcrum]

https://help.steampowered.com/en/wizard/HelpAccountDataQuestion

Looks like that will allow you to submit a request for an account data issue. That's really the best we're going to be able to do as this is all steam. GTFO provides the game, but since you want a refund, 10 Chambers doesn't have access to that, and it's all handled by Steam

[craggy pier]

alright thanks for the support ill try this

[old arch]

Ah thx for all the info

[ancient tartan]

Will there be a way to re-do previous rundowns?

[fluid osprey]

Nope

[shrewd dirge]

list enemies that can be 1 shot to the front of head with sniper
excluding regular striker/shooter.

[vital sierra]

huh?

[old mountain]

I know scouts and titans can be

Not sure about front of head on the second one but

[digital gate]

I think it's back of the head

for titans

[craggy pier]

*Always

[vital sierra]

back of the head for titan and giant shooter

[craggy pier]

For front you'll need a headshot and a body shot when killing giants

[toxic knot]

why game optimize bad

no run on me copoter

run bad

[craggy pier]

The game is still in early access so there's more room for more optimizations in the future

If your computer you use does not match the recommended specs surely you'll get poor performance

[vital sierra]

this just "your pc suck" but not to be rude edition

[jagged coral]

What is this hide syringe option in Gameplay settings

[young pagoda]

basically, when you use a syringe, it doesn't show the needle

[craggy pier]

It's just to hide the needles on the syringe

[young pagoda]

it's for people who have a phobia of needles

[digital gate]

I don't get the point of tha-

oh ok

never thought of that

[craggy pier]

Its like a vaccine to an epipen

If that makes sense

[jagged coral]

Interesting, good to know

[digital gate]

yeah I get it

[short cargo]

||can the mother in b2 be foamed with 1 c foam nade?||

[keen solar]

1 and a half charged I guess

[short cargo]

thanks!

[shrewd dirge]

@short cargo dont aim it at the mother if she's sleeping, throw it at the floor, because if she's asleep the nade/foam will fly right through.

[digital gate]

Do sleepers only wake up when you hit another while they're glowing and have LOS of the sleeper you killed?

[restive reef]

Basically if they are glowing and are in direct path of the sleeper

if they aren’t glowing and aren’t hugging eachother then go for it

[digital gate]

so it's fine if they're glowing but not looking at the sleeper you're about to

or no?

[restive reef]

😻😻😻😽😽🙀😸😹😹😿😿 uhhhh if they glowing pretty much, I’ve had ones aggro even if they are turned around

[digital gate]

ok

[restive reef]

Yeah just be super safe around ones that are in the same general area of eachother

other than that you should be a ok

[short cargo]

@short cargo dont aim it at the mother if she's sleeping, throw it at the floor, because if she's asleep the nade/foam will fly right through.
@shrewd dirge thats how we messed up first time haha

[distant ice]

is it intended for sleepers to power through stagger sometimes 🤔

like you see them visibly flinching while charging their attack but they do it anyway

[vital sierra]

i think is a little animation bug

like the stagger animation being force out because the striker want to attack

but i don't see any yet since i'm the host or you guys being unlucky

[short cargo]

are guns in this game hitscan or projectiles?

[distant ice]

projectiles

[short cargo]

thank you

[vital sierra]

isn't it hitscan?

[distant ice]

wouldn't the tools and guns be the same

tools didn't look like hitscan and i can't free camera myself to check on guns

but i see no reason to separate them

[distant ice]

@short cargo looks like it's actually hitscan

the effects are really fucking weird though

why is the sentry radius so garbage

[vital sierra]

25 meters

oh

radius

not range

i saw the sentry turn 90 degree before

so

how is that garbo

[distant ice]

no way

i placed in various angles from a sleeper and it basically only reacts where the green scan line goes normally

which is really small

[vital sierra]

idk if my A3 solo video have that moment

it's locked on the striker and spin BEHIND it

and that look weird af

[distant ice]

🤔 so maybe once it detects an enemy it locks on

i have seen a sentry shoot straight up

but what happens if a wave passes by its radius, it locks on the first one and shoots

will it start scanning again after the first shot, will it start scanning again after it kills the target, or is everyone that passed by now marked for death

the 3rd is most likely not the case

[crude stream]

Is there any way to get a response from the mods or perhaps a dev as to my observations on D1 that I posted yesterday?
I’d be interested to know whether D1’s currents difficulty is intentional or whether it is accidental due to the new enemy mechanics.

[distant ice]

D1 has a bug with enemy spawn locations, there was also multiple mothers but that one was fixed afaik

haven't heard anything wrong with it otherwise

[crude stream]

Do we know if it is getting a fix?

[distant ice]

it was expected but dunno anymore

haven't heard anything from devs

[crude stream]

I’m reluctant to even try it again until there is a fix.

[distant ice]

ea for a reason

[jovial wharf]

What does PRT stand for?

In the intro cutscene it says PRT: Rundown 3

Now, a quick Google search brings up Prison Reform Trust..

But it also could be something else. If it is Prison Reform Trust, maybe our characters are trying to re-enter society by volunteering unknowingly to these jobs?

[distant ice]

u mad

intro cutscene where

[jovial wharf]

When you start the game?

[distant ice]

could be a weird way to abbreviate protocol

[digital gate]

rndwn.prt or something like that

[jovial wharf]

Could be protocol.

[digital gate]

probably

what what the hell is the nrv probe reaction?

[distant ice]

Initiate Rundown Protocol #003 - "the warden" likes to say it like that

[jovial wharf]

True.

[distant ice]

nrv is flavor text

what it stands for, no clue

[digital gate]

as well as the hsu hydro qva

[distant ice]

hydrostasis unit, hydro is not an abbreviation

qva doesn't seem familiar

[jovial wharf]

NRV is net realizable value. Basically, the prisoners are struggling in business school and cheated on their exams, which is how they ended up here.

[distant ice]

hahayes

[jovial wharf]

Where'd you get QVA?

[digital gate]

when you wait through the intro cutscene like you were talking about

[jovial wharf]

HSU is just hydrostasis unit..

[digital gate]

and it comes up with the inject

ik that as well as that hydro isn't an abbreviation

I'm just wondering what qva means

[distant ice]

you know they were probably just typing in everything that comes to mind just to fill it up with text

[digital gate]

probably

[distant ice]

most people are just gonna get the "feel" of it and move on, and what's that matters

[digital gate]

true

[jovial wharf]

Well, it prefaces it with HSU, then hydro..

We know hydrostasis is some suspended techo babble so maybe it's the quality of whatever is holding the prisoners and other subjects in sleep?

Sorta like water quality.

[digital gate]

quality something

[icy echo]

How to do B2?

[digital gate]

you beat it

[icy echo]

damn

[digital gate]

yeah don't thank me

[icy echo]

thank you

[digital gate]

np

[random locust]

Wiki says R4 will have ABCD, how do we know this?

[placid cobalt]

roadmap

[random locust]

ah of course

thx

but what if devs have secret layer?

also I wonder if devs will ever skip a layer eg ABD

[distant ice]

how much are you allowed to move while reviving someone? crouchwalking seems like it's fine at one point but at others it just cancels the revive entirely

and looking up sometimes seems to continue the revive just the progress line goes away, other times it cancels entirely

it's infuriating

[vital sierra]

the thing is

you can still hold E and still revive him without seeing the bar disappear

[distant ice]

"without seeing the bar disappear"

if you mean that the bar going away doesn't necessarily mean that you stopped reviving your teammate, i'm aware

but there's no fkn way to tell and sometimes i just sit there without actually doing anything

because it DID cancel for some reason

in duo this caused a wipe so many times

[vital sierra]

ye

you don't know that

it's kinda annoying

[keen junco]

Anyone know if we should expect more balancing changes before the end of the Rundown?

[lilac fulcrum]

There is nothing planned

[distant ice]

oof

no patches till R4

[jovial wharf]

Unless we BREAK THE GAME

Get at it lads >:3

I'm kidding please no ban

[distant ice]

really expected some bug fixes

[crude stream]

yup