gtfo-related-questions

[minor fractal]

MG needed a nerf anyway

It was kinda OP

It's still extremely strong, though, in the right hands.

[noble sierra]

Machine gun in rundown 1 is indeed too good

[vestal osprey]

Lol seems everyone can agree to that one

[full sundial]

MG still does a lot of damage, a little less than before

but with almost 3x the ammo, it is well worth it

just the recoil throws off newer users of the MG

once you can control it, it is probably the best killing machine in the game

[lapis star]

Doesn't it also have that charge up?

[full sundial]

yeah, that's only noticable when you're trying to burst fire the gun

to save ammo

it is like a .3s charge up

[noble sierra]

Damage per bullet is way less than rundown 1, still a good pick but other weapon is competitive

[full sundial]

not way less, dh

can kill small guys in 3-4 shots

a bit less damage, 1-2 more shots to kill small ones

about 2x as many shots for big guys

but it has about 3x the amo

ammo*

so very similar damage for all of the ammo it has

[noble sierra]

That's 50 percent less

[full sundial]

around, but it has about 3x more ammo

to make up for that

and a 2x bigger magazine size

[vestal osprey]

Well dh just meant less damage per shot not damage overall I think

[full sundial]

yeah, damage overall is probably higher now

just it is harder to control since it's recoil is higher and fires faster

so you can't conserve the ammo as easily

[noble sierra]

True

[full sundial]

but if you can do that well enough, it is a great weapon

[vestal osprey]

I know someone said pretty much all weapons are viable but what do you all think of the revolver

Personally I like it but I don’t know if it’s that great

When compared to other guns

[full sundial]

it is pretty good, but it isn't a great choice

it can compliment the SMG/Machine Pistol pretty well though

to get some headshot kills, then swap to main when you need to reload or they start getting close

[noble sierra]

It's the other loud choice to take down scout

[full sundial]

much more difficult to do so though

unless you get up close and spam to the face and hope you can get two of your shots to land before it becomes invuln

[noble sierra]

Highest single bullet damage other than sniper

[full sundial]

true, DMR just a little bit behind

[vestal osprey]

I hate scouts and the party I beat rd1 with and I have legit been thinking scouts get alerted when you move and shine your light on them....

Then today I found out that’s not true

[full sundial]

lol, that would be really difficult to deal with

if that were the case

[vestal osprey]

Fuck.

[noble sierra]

Revolver can one tap scout if you shoot from behind and at the head

[vestal osprey]

Is there a drop off damage or can you snipe it

With the revolver

[noble sierra]

10 meters at most

[dusty hawk]

It's still quite loud though and in some cases where there are more than 1 scouts in the room it can't really be done

[full sundial]

c foam is a scout killing noob's best friend

easiest way to do it without being a waste of a weapon slot like the sniper

[dusty hawk]

sometimes dry-killing scout with melee can be really frustrating due to random spawn

[full sundial]

random spawn?

of the sleepers?

[dusty hawk]

for example I had a scout spin around the only door for 10 minutes and 5 sleepers around the scout, including one big.

eventually it moved away and we killed it

but it was waiting for legit 10 minutes.

[full sundial]

oh, you mean its pathing

not spawn

[dusty hawk]

well pathing wouldn't be an issue if it didnt have sleepers all around it tbh

its combination of both

[noble sierra]

Sure, but in some strategies cfoam is more important than bullet, knowing what options you have available is fine

[full sundial]

its pathing is choosing to stay near sleepers, I think that's how the scouts behave

they are more likely to walk somewhere if a sleeper is there

I know that's true, from experience

[dusty hawk]

I seriously dont know what to do in those cases other than wait for the right moment

but it can take ages sometimes

[full sundial]

if you cleared most the room already

just walk up and shotgun it

or c foam

[dusty hawk]

I don't want to spoil the levels, but what we did was basically sneak through previous room, and opened security scan door

[full sundial]

if you're gonna dry kill a scout though, you want to keep some sleepers on each end of the room so the scout can still choose to walk around the room

[dusty hawk]

behind security scan was the said scout with his friends, constantly moving around the door

[full sundial]

seems when you kill all the sleepers in an area, the scout doesn't go there as often anymore

[sharp willow]

@dusty hawk 1st be confident. 2nd light up sleepers while scout is near you. 3rd sleeper are synchornized so you can easily BONK a scout

[full sundial]

another easy way to kill scouts is to get them on an incline like a stair case

[dusty hawk]

I have 0 problems with scouts in general, like that funny room in one of B levels. I just walk in and bonk them all

but when they nearly stay in same spot 24/7 and block the path its super annoying to have sleepers around it

[full sundial]

mhm, shotgun makes quick work of that type of situation

recommend you try it to save time unless you don't mind just waiting for the scout

[dusty hawk]

it helps that scouts aren't triggered by light, which is something I only learned after beating the first rundown like 3 times lol

[vestal osprey]

LOL

I just found that out

And I feel like an idiot

[dusty hawk]

even crazier to find out you can just sprint near them too

[full sundial]

they put their tendrils out when light hits them, but they aren't too sensitive

[vestal osprey]

Just found that out too

[full sundial]

you have to really flash them on purpose for them to put their tendrils out due to light

[noble sierra]

No, they don't care the lights

[dusty hawk]

I really like the current rundown because its definitelly harder than the previous one.

[vestal osprey]

I would place a mine and pull up a youtube video until I heard the scream because I was so scared

[full sundial]

they do, tested it back on R1B1, and use that to get them to put their tendrils out when I need

[vestal osprey]

Now I feel like a total idiot

Lol

[dusty hawk]

You recon someone will solo all the levels as they did in rundown 1#? haha

after playing through all the B and C levels im thinking it might be not possible

[mint garden]

there are some crazy people out there

[dusty hawk]

or if someone does it, it will definitelly involve glitches

[vestal osprey]

Indeed

[full sundial]

a guy named plant already solo'd A to C tiers

just hasn't done D1 yet

he is a bug tester so he has had a lot longer to play them though

so keep that in mind

[vital sierra]

so he's the solo bug hunter gameplay huh

[dusty hawk]

I am pretty sure there were some cheesy tactics involved

there is no way you can just legit defend some of those doors

alone

[vital sierra]

to test out if the rundown can be solo'ed

[full sundial]

yeah, most solo runs involve a lot of kiting, Rinnosuke lol

[vital sierra]

C2 he said you can solo with bio track

[full sundial]

leading the enemies away from alarm scans to give you time to do them, etc

[vital sierra]

you need to know where they spawn so you can do a quick drop of the turbine and shoot

[dusty hawk]

So the same as it was before with C1 on rundown 1

or D1

[full sundial]

well, C1 in R1 you could headshot the enemies

so they were really slow

[vital sierra]

@full sundial do the C2 enemy keep spawning or they need to be killed in order to spawn?

[full sundial]

and it would make it REALLY easy to kite them around

[dusty hawk]

yeah they removed that I remember

[full sundial]

they keep spawning, Alpha, but I bet there is a max amount

[dusty hawk]

but for example C1 in this rundown is insanely huge so kiting enemies wouldn't be that bad

I think what would 100% remove solo from this game is if they made enemies spawn without limits

[full sundial]

but the ||initial 4 can turn into 8, I didn't bother letting more spawn during our run lol, saw another wave spawn and then killed them all||

[dusty hawk]

so if you keep kiting them they just keep generating more and more

[full sundial]

yeah, exactly

that would make soloing a lot more challenging

increase the cap would be more likely

[dusty hawk]

after like 10 minutes of kiting you'd have to kill 500 mobs

[full sundial]

removing the limit of enemies would cause a lot of bugs

[vestal osprey]

Honestly you’d have to be pretty fucking good to solo so I don’t think that really needs to be done

I mean making sure it’s not possible

[dusty hawk]

its not about solo, if some people want to spend 3 hours running around they can do whatever they want tbh

[full sundial]

I was able to solo all the expeditions of R1, but R2, this is a whole nother ball game

only done A1 solo so far

[dusty hawk]

But I am quite annoyed because I think this game is a fun challenge

[full sundial]

gonna give B1 another try tomorrow

[dusty hawk]

but there are people who play full 4-man teams and they still cheese everything they can

like the B1 door

I guess everyone can play as they want, but this removes the challenge from the game

[full sundial]

yeah, I don't cheese as a full team unless everyone is down during an alarm door

then I kite the enemies to try to get them back up and continue fighting

did that for B1 once

[dusty hawk]

B1 is the first wall for new players, and then you get someone who just runs the enemies into narnia, complete the level

and the fresh players are going into later tiers without knowing how to shoot

[lapis star]

@dusty hawk I'm currently running into that issue.

[full sundial]

yeah, I like to tell new players at the end of A1 to step off the extraction scan when it reaches 95% and fight till we run out of ammo or start to get overrun

[lapis star]

I want to be able to play through and be taught how to do the encounters and learn, but my first time through my team was just kinda running stuff through.

[full sundial]

so they can use their gun more

[dusty hawk]

back in R1 there was C1 to teach people to shoot, but the layout of that level was very forgiving anyway

its harder to fight in the dark with many objects around

[full sundial]

We have ||c2|| now to teach people about hammer fighting 🙂

[vestal osprey]

What the hell I thought rd1 was hard I haven’t played rd2 much yet but...

[mint garden]

just call up the scout and his friends to have some shooting range fun

[dusty hawk]

I gotta say though current C1 is a really long level, lo

I haven't done D1 of this rundown yet, going today with my friends

[sharp willow]

same as me

hope you will make it

[full sundial]

I saw Alpha footage of people playing that expedition, that one was C1, and it was a long one, I wanted that difficulty but didn't get that in R1 sadly

closest to that was C2

but now, they brought it back

really liking the game now

loved it in R1, love it even more now tho

[dusty hawk]

We managed to one-shot some levels so far, but C levels took us few tries

[full sundial]

yeah, was able to do A and B tiers first try, besides B4, something happened in there that confused us

think it was a bug, but not sure

but yeah, C and D tiers had us attempting several times

[vital sierra]

will the Infection get a buff in the near future?

[dusty hawk]

For us the one we didn't one-shot was B1 and then both C. B1 because we were still testing things out and people didn't have their favourite weapons or tools

We switched to 4 shotgun turrets and SMG+Machinegun each

and it was a breeze

[full sundial]

yeah, we tried B1 with three people, didn't go well, but when our 4th got on, ez

that extra fire power, extra person doing scans, extra person with another tool, makes a lot of difference there

[dusty hawk]

I am still loving Machinegun after changes, for me it was always the meta weapon

I don't think only for me haha

[full sundial]

same

it is the best weapon imo for just killing everything

even better at killing the bigger enemies now

less efficient against smaller enemies if you can't control it right, but if you can, it is great

[dusty hawk]

I still remember the first time we picked up ||The wind turbine and we thought that it causes enemies to aggro on you so we dropped it instantly after picking up haha||

[vestal osprey]

Out if curiosity how many hours do you guys have it seems like a breeze for you guys XD

[dusty hawk]

like 40 hours total

[vestal osprey]

Wait for real?

[dusty hawk]

yeah

[vestal osprey]

what kind of fuckery is this... no way???

[dusty hawk]

I only ever play with my 2 friends and my wife though, and we are all quite good at shooters so that might be a part of it being easier for us

[vestal osprey]

Lolllll

I see

Damn I’m still impressed though

[dusty hawk]

im curious now actually, let me check steam

[sharp willow]

my friend have 300hrs+

he was doing Rundown #001 with his eyes closed 😄

[dusty hawk]

43 hours. I have a bit more than my team since I soloed some levels on rundown 1#

but now I'm not gonna bother

[vestal osprey]

...

I don’t know what to say about the eyes closed guy

But with 43 hours soloing levels on rundown two seems pretty insane to me

[dusty hawk]

For example I know there were lots of people who had issues with the C1 level of last rundown, we beat it on our first try

Nah I don't solo rundown two levels :P
I only did A1 and B1/B2 of first rundown solo

[vestal osprey]

Although maybe thats also due to me not knowing about how the scout can’t sense movement

How do people even do this

[mint garden]

i have ~50 hrs and couldnt solo any of the rd1 levels or first-try with a team on any

played a lot of shooters as well

but i guess it is what it is

[dusty hawk]

I didn't play with PUG yet but my friend did, and he said it was terrible

sometimes you get very fresh people and its hard to make up for it

But its fine, everyone has to learn

Also lots of people get many hours because they like beating the game multiple times and doing stuff like "hammer only" or speedruns. We just play fully seriously to beat it, and then not much after 😄

we beat it 3 times and stopped playing till Rundown 2

[vestal osprey]

I beat it once

Asked a friend to play d1 again and he said no

Cuz it’s like two to three hours

And we were scared

But you beat it three times...

[mint garden]

well 2-3 hours for our skill level

[vestal osprey]

With less hours

LOL

[sharp willow]

D1 3 hrs i don't think so ;D

[vestal osprey]

LOL

[dusty hawk]

The first time we did D1 on rundown 1 took us about an hour

[mint garden]

yeah...

[dusty hawk]

the next 2 times it was like 20 minutes each

[mint garden]

i guess we are just too slow

[dusty hawk]

20-25

[mint garden]

20 min sounds insane

[vestal osprey]

Come on what the fuck

Seriously????

[sharp willow]

first time when i was at R1D1 my mate said "Stand here and wait for enemies"

[mint garden]

i can only think of two things

[dusty hawk]

I guess you guys like staying together and clearing mobs slowly? We did that on first run
But then we just walk into the room, spreat in 4 areas and clear everything each person solo

it makes things super fast

[mint garden]

we are either stealthing too much or waiting for scouts to walk in mines too much

[vestal osprey]

Oh we didn’t split

We always grouped

[sharp willow]

@dusty hawk same. Just bioscanner guy tells which one are stacked

[vestal osprey]

Clearing one room at a time with the squad

We didn’t use bio scanner

On d1

[sharp willow]

😄

[dusty hawk]

We never really did speedrun on previous rundown, but for example in D1 on R1 you had those doors that you didn't have to clear, they just had resources in them

we didn't bother opening them, just ran straight to reactor

[mint garden]

well we use the terminal to avoid things that aren't needed

but we had low health and resources so sometimes we take those

[dusty hawk]

I think its a matter of practice and accuracy. If you can kill mobs so fast they won't really damage you and you don't worry too much

its much easier to fight them when they are further away too

[mint garden]

so do you rely on guns a lot or do you melee kill all

[dusty hawk]

well, guns only for alarms until its the end of alarm then hammer

otherwise, we hammer rooms

Once you practice a little you will see what can cause you to waste less time

for example you have 3 mobs next to each other, you'd wait for team to group up and sync-hit them all to get them all killed

One person can do that too if you are fast enough at hitting them before they "shout" when they wake up

[mint garden]

yeah we usually do that for 2 of them next to each other

one person

[vestal osprey]

We do all that

But we didn’t know about the scout stuff

We just waited for the scout to hit our mine

For like thirty minutes literally one time

[dusty hawk]

the scout on D1 we just shot with sniper rifle lmao (in rundown 1)

[mint garden]

lol

[dusty hawk]

it didn't even aggro the room

[mint garden]

yeah i heard if you are far enough it won't

but we decided to carry other weapons instead

[vestal osprey]

Oh yeah we also didn’t know that so we thought you can’t silently kill with sniper

...

Lol

[minor fractal]

It's extremely rare that you can silently kill with a sniper

[vestal osprey]

Oh

[dusty hawk]

There are only few rooms like that

[minor fractal]

You need to be in a different room, and the aggro range is still 50m

[dusty hawk]

and im not even sure about rundown 2

we didnt use sniper rifle in this rundown

[vestal osprey]

Damn

So if rundown one gave us a decent amount of trouble

How much more difficult is rd2

In comparison

😆

[dusty hawk]

umm, I'd say the B levels of rd2 are about as hard as D level of rd1, actually

maybe a bit easier..?

[noble sierra]

You could beat R2B1-4 w/o much effort I guess.

[dusty hawk]

But its because there is a bunch of new stuff that I won't spoil

when you get used to them it gets much easier

the levels are longer in this rundown as well.

[sharp willow]

yeah, then you go to C and game again says "F*ck you"

[minor fractal]

A tier is easy
B tier is fairly standard
C tier is hard
D tier is very hard

[dusty hawk]

C levels are harder than anything in rundown 1

D I can't say till we beat it today hopefully

[vestal osprey]

Ahhh fuck

[sharp willow]

A1 was hardest for me cos i don't know how to play at all 😄

[noble sierra]

My friends and I are all poor in FPS genre, we finished R1. 3/4 B levels in rundown 2 is completed first seen w/o froreknowledge.

[sharp willow]

30 wipes and some guy joined and said " you can manage from which side they will come to you"

that opens my eyes

[noble sierra]

And wipes more than 10 times in R2C1

[dusty hawk]

haha, C1 was fun for us too

we wiped like 3 times before we cleared

once very late in the level and it felt shit

[vestal osprey]

As for the infection levels is there any reason to go into the ___ in A1 because my friend and I killed ourselves by accident for two lockers

[dusty hawk]

There is

[minor fractal]

My tier list from easiest to hardest:
R1A1, R2A1, and R2B3
R1B1, R1C1, and R2B2
R1B2, R2B1, and R2B4
R1C2 and R1D1
R2C1
R2C2 and R2D1

[vestal osprey]

Whats the deal with that

Oh ok

[dusty hawk]

there can be a ||box you need to carry|| there

[vestal osprey]

I see

Thanks

[sharp willow]

@minor fractal i would say
A - learn how to play B - look what we've got for you, it's good game, these things are cool, woah much usage of items C - we've got your soul, f*(k you and your squad D - Now show us that you learned something from past runs.

[minor fractal]

Use ||fog repellers||

[vestal osprey]

Oh thanks @minor fractal

[dusty hawk]

Hmm funny that you rate R2C1 above R2C2, for me its reverse

I mean under*

I felt R2C1 was harder

[sharp willow]

for me also. C1 is a pain. C2 is pretty easy.

[minor fractal]

@dusty hawk Yah, but I also can kill 5 scouts in a row without screwing up.

||Shadows don't scare me either, I did way too much R1D1 for that||

[vestal osprey]

How is rd1 c1 easier than rd1 b2

[dusty hawk]

rd1 c1 was just shooting

[minor fractal]

Because C1 had piss easy sentry placements that made it a cake walk

[dusty hawk]

it was actually one of the easiest levels

[vestal osprey]

Really?

Dang

I guess it was hard for my party because we would stand in the reactor room instead of fighting all over the place

[dusty hawk]

Hmm, I never actually tried killing a scout before it stops. @minor fractal can you run into the scout, jump and hammer the head? lmao

maybe u got experience

[minor fractal]

Why would you jump?

I assume you haven't killed any lmao

[mint garden]

how do you do this when there are other sleepers in the room

running in to kill them

[dusty hawk]

I always kill them by waiting until they stop, and stay crouched under it

then I hammer them

[sharp willow]

@mint garden just sunchro sleepers and run to scout, they won't wake up

[minor fractal]

I usually isolate the scout and wait for it to walk towards me, then sprint to get it to send out feelers, watch where its head goes, and kill it. You need to time a full charge for those actions, as well.

[dusty hawk]

Yeah, i just always wondered if you can speedblitz it since I never tried that, I always kill them when they are already putting tendrils out

funny for you to assume I haven't killed scouts when I beat rundown multiple times 😄

[minor fractal]

I wouldn't call my strat a speedblitz

[mint garden]

so would you say it's safe to crouch under them when killing them

[dusty hawk]

I didn't call your strat speedblitz, I was wondering if speedblitz was possible

[mint garden]

i always worried the feelers would hit you

[dusty hawk]

and thought maybe you tried it

[minor fractal]

Sort of?

You need to already be very close

[sharp willow]

@mint garden i don't think it's safe cos they're constantly moving

[minor fractal]

you can enter the tentacles right before you kill

[mint garden]

oh

[minor fractal]

Which you can do on slopes

or if it's just around a corner

[sharp willow]

yep. you've got that 1 sec gate to kill after you stomp on tentacle

[dusty hawk]

the scout doesn't become invulnerable instantly when it detects you either, you have about a second so its not that bad @mint garden

[mint garden]

ye

i figured that

when one of the tentacles is hit and it turns red there's a period of time before the tentacle retracts and they turn green

i'm guessing the green part is the invulnerability

[minor fractal]

There's also a period of time after feelers are sent out before they actually detect you

[sharp willow]

blue*

[minor fractal]

So, if you can be right up on them with a full charge when they send them out, you're golden.

[mint garden]

There's also a period of time after feelers are sent out before they actually detect you
@minor fractal damn i never knew that

[dusty hawk]

To be fair not many people kill scouts with hammers, usually in team there is only one person who can do that reliably

so there are many things that are not too common knowledge

[minor fractal]

@dusty hawk You can also ask @full sundial for his strat, as he prefers to crouch walk close to them and then stand up for the kill while they're walking.

I've also found you can get them in one of their walk cycles while crouching.

[elder sandal]

Question, can you kill the scouts while they're in the middle of alerting or do you just have to set up and take it?

[sharp willow]

IMHO best option is to go solo and try to kill these scouts.

it will help in the future

[minor fractal]

They are invulnerable during their scream @elder sandal

[elder sandal]

Makes sense

[minor fractal]

Any alert will give about a second delay before then

[sharp willow]

i love the story about blue glowstick

[full sundial]

If I can, when they're on the stairs, I get on the bottom of the stairs and force them to put their tendrils out by flashing them or walking around, then kill them when they bend over and put their head down

Easiest way to dry kill a scout imo

[dusty hawk]

Yeah what I wondered was more of a speekill strat, where you would sprint into the room and instantly kill the scout. But that can be done with a shotgun as well since u will aggro everything anyway by sprinting

[full sundial]

If the positioning is right

[dusty hawk]

not to mention if the scout isnt right by the door u will aggro mobs that will aggro the scout before u even get to it

not too viable I guess

[minor fractal]

They have:
-Slow walk
-Fast walk
-Moonwalk
-Side-skip

During their slow walk, their head is bent down, so you can just crouch in-front of them and look up to kill them.

[dusty hawk]

I like watching them climb ladders.

[full sundial]

Oh yeah, forgot about the fast walk where they put their arms up in the air

[minor fractal]

Fast walk is pretty good if you intend to stand up in-front of them or if you want them to tentacle.

[sharp willow]

https://gfycat.com/oddvigorousdodo

[minor fractal]

Moonwalk is riskier, but can be fairly consistent since its head is raised more.

Side-step, either fuck off before it gets too close or force it to tentacle if its front is facing a good direction.

[full sundial]

Yeah, I have had a few accidental successful kills while they skipped, but just as many fails, never go after them on purpose when they do that tho

They just do it out of no where sometimes

[minor fractal]

I feel like the "accidental successful kills" on side-stepping are common for anyone who does it enough.

[full sundial]

Yeah, get lucky not to hit the arms

[minor fractal]

I've had occasions where I didn't see it until it was right in my face and I just fucking flick

[craggy pier]

Often they do their sides steps when going down or up stairs as far as I’ve noticed

[dusty hawk]

This discussion shows that aside from being good at shooting I don't have much experience in this game haha. I didnt even recognize that they have 4 movements, I only really saw two.

[full sundial]

Yeah lmao, like in Z70 on D1, was dark, it skipped at me, and I got it luckily

[craggy pier]

But they’ll occasionally just fuckin skip when ever they what like Ethan said

[vestal osprey]

@dusty hawk I feel like I’ve just woken up lmao

[dusty hawk]

Its fine Smokey, in the end you beat the rundown so its all good 😛

[craggy pier]

Hell I’ve only noticed their skips and normal walks and moon walks never really noticed a fast walk

[minor fractal]

I didn't know they had two front-facing walk cycles until I started learning the crouched kill, and I realized it was extremely difficult sometimes but piss easy others.

[full sundial]

I never realized they had a fast or slow walk till you said it, and then it clicked lol

Because I have seen both, but didn't think anything of it

[craggy pier]

I’ve had a few instances in C1 where the scout gets stuck between enemies and can’t move for like 3 minutes

[mint garden]

jeez there is a lot of technical analysis that needs to be done on this game

[dusty hawk]

My strat for scout was always just to walk under it crouched, wait for tentacles and headshot it with hammer

no thinking about it, just that every time

[craggy pier]

Not really we just take account of everything

[full sundial]

It's because there is no tutorial, so we gotta figure it all out together

[craggy pier]

Still though nothing more satisfying then bashing a awkwardly positioned scouts head in

[full sundial]

Kind of like when TF2 came out

[dusty hawk]

but I guess by doing it like im doing it can take much longer time waiting for good moment

[minor fractal]

Something else you learn about scouts if you fight them enough is that they head has two positions with feelers extended, and it moves from one to the other half-way through.

I expect more people know that, though.

[distant ice]

worst experiences with scouts are when they just camp around big guys

[craggy pier]

Oof yeah I learned that the hard way in RD1

[distant ice]

can't take either out

[full sundial]

I havent seen them go from standing to bending over half way through tho

[distant ice]

and they won't fkn leave even if you wait 10 minutes

[full sundial]

Only from bending down to standing up

[minor fractal]

Hmmm, maybe.

Not sure

[distant ice]

the always bend down when sprouting

[dusty hawk]

Yeah if they camp around big guys you're better off clearing the room, shooting the scout and then shooting the big guys tbh

[distant ice]

but get up at different timing and speed

which is real annoying

[dusty hawk]

for me at least

[minor fractal]

They don't always bend down, though.

[full sundial]

Sometimes they dont bend down

[craggy pier]

They just stand head straight and then squat down then move back up

[distant ice]

i mean their head always goes down

doesn't stay same height

[minor fractal]

???

[dusty hawk]

They either bend a little like their back hurts or they bend a shitton, from what I have noticed

but I never saw them switch mid-animation

[minor fractal]

I just need to record half an hour of watching a scout walk around and send out feelers.

And then we can settle all the questions about scouts

[craggy pier]

It’ll be like natural geographic

[full sundial]

Lol

"Here we see the scout in it's natural habitat"

[minor fractal]

I'll start a go-fund-me for paying Attenborough to voice it.

[vestal osprey]

XD

[full sundial]

Do that Ray lmfao

[distant ice]

the tentacles come from their back-neck area always, don't they

[full sundial]

Seems like it

[distant ice]

i have seen them do it like they're startled-shocked but that one doesn't make sense since it makes the tentacles clip through their head

when devs finally get around to things like that they'll probably change it

[craggy pier]

I can back this up I have seen this before

Back in R1A1

Scout must’ve heard one of us immediately tentacled and when it did it was in it’s bent animation than quickly changed to standing straight

[mint garden]

yeah

[distant ice]

https://discordapp.com/channels/408196129470152705/585063132553281556/690631341972258867 this one

i took a step forward and he did the startled thing

[mint garden]

regarding that link ^ is that something you can consistently rely on

if so that's a game changer

or is that one also reliant on their positioning of the head and whatnot

[distant ice]

you have to know how long it takes for the scout to get up after sprouting, otherwise it's the most stable their heads will ever be

i never paid attention but i think every scout only does it one way

[craggy pier]

I reckon that ain’t the case

Although I can’t say it isn’t either

[minor fractal]

The only other position I've noticed is when they lean back after sending out feelers. Very easy kill either way.

[distant ice]

It's more like a 19/20 kill for me but I don't like those odds

[lapis star]

I've figured out that the Scouts have an opening whenever they detect you with their tendrils. They kinda just freeze up as they quickly suck them back in.

[distant ice]

That's a very small frame from what I've seen

[lapis star]

It's like a second. But it was enough for me, because I got a maul kill on one tonight!

It was just R2A1, but it's still nice.

[distant ice]

Between detection and invulnerability? Idk how to determine the frame but I think it's way less than a second

or wait you meant tendril turning red? ye that's plenty of time

[surreal sandal]

Anyone who has finished C1, any tips on the very last extraction point?

we tend to manage to do everything pretty smoothly, but kind of screw up at the end

[vital sierra]

where is the last terminal that you do?

[surreal sandal]

that is information I can't seem to retain

the routes we take from the last terminal to the final extraction point seem to be fine though

we ran double sentry with mines and a bio tracker

the sentry's seemed a bit useless without the bio tracker which seemed to be a slight problem

for the ghosty bois

since the last wave is full of them

[sharp willow]

@surreal sandal don't use all your resources before extraction

[vital sierra]

you should be more than 50% health for extraction

for safety of course

[surreal sandal]

hmmm

that might've been it

we were all 40% and the bio tracker guy was 60%

reserve more medi's for the extraction?

[sharp willow]

or sacrifice one guy which would take aggro from most of enemies

[surreal sandal]

yeah that's a good idea

thanks

[shadow mica]

You can also at the end c foam the big door at the entrance and keep doing that to keep them out

[silver herald]

new here, what does lf, lfg, lfm1 and so on mean?

[dapper belfry]

lfg means Looking for a game lf1m mean looking for one more they could also say lf2m or lf3m

[silver herald]

ah, thanks dude

now i just need to find a beginner game :p

[astral wolf]

Is there a way to access the old levels? I never beat D1

[turbid crest]

Nope sorry

[astral wolf]

F

[quasi grove]

Aight guys I'm back with some questions.

1. Can you C-foam Titans?
2. Scouts take more melee damage when stuck in foam (right?) , does this apply to gunfire as well?
3. If the answer to 2. is yes, do all enemies take more damage when c-foamed?

[jagged basin]

You can c-foam the big guys, I don't think they take more damage considering anything less than a full charged hammer will kill a c-foamed scout

[vital sierra]

1.yes ( 1 c foam launcher Full charge )

[jagged basin]

source: panic smacking a c-foam scout when the first, 80% charged hit didn't kill it

[vital sierra]

2. no

Bonus: you only need 3 - 4 Gu ( 1 - 2% ) to freeze normal sleeper / Scout
Titan need 12 Gu = 1 full charge of C foam launcher

[quasi grove]

Ok thanks guys

[sage pecan]

do enemies still take headshot damage if u shoot/bonk the air where their heads used to be

i remember that was the case in rundown 1 and wondering if thats still a thing

[jagged basin]

I believe so

[sage pecan]

o dear

[vital sierra]

yes

it's a little hard when you need to hit correctly

[gaunt blade]

Hi I have a question to everyone, there is a thing thats happening in my 4 man where consistently the person in the 4th party slot is not seeing the last security circle ( as in can not see any visual indicator but if we tell him where to stand it scans) at the key card door on the very first level, has anyone else ran into this ?

[sage pecan]

@gaunt blade there was a problem in rundown 1 where the paths on the ground wouldnt show up at all, then all the scan circles would suddenly appear on the floor at once
there wasnt a solution as far as im aware besides just sitting there and waiting for them to render

have u tried waiting longer?

[gaunt blade]

@sage pecan Thank you heavy box! We tried waiting as long as it would let us without getting swamped with monsters. But the other 3 arent having this issue, it is JUST our 4th player. How would you be able to wait longer when the alarm is going off though?

[distant ice]

in his case, the white path didn't show up, not the circles themselves

[tribal ether]

@gaunt blade If three of you can see it, why don't one of the people who can see it, just do the scan

?

[gaunt blade]

Thats just the thing, he says he can see the ones we are standing on, he can see three just not four, @tribal ether that makes more sense tbh also

[tribal ether]

But, the one he can't, you can just get another teammate to take

[gaunt blade]

In the absoulte heat of the moment its hard to communicate when we are getting swamped but that is also a fix i can see

[distant ice]

Restarting game, pc, verifying files, resetting graphic settings - tried all these?

[sage pecan]

@gaunt blade ur describing a problem ive never seen actually :( but yea if u havent tried yet i recommend that guy restarting his game

[distant ice]

Really weird that 3 would show up

[gaunt blade]

Yeah inst it the WORST? like we were so baffled when he explained it , its such a weird bug, if it even IS one, i think its on his end but its so strange

[distant ice]

Ikr

You sure he wasn't just struck with a spontaneous case of blindness

[gaunt blade]

see the thing is, he could see the 4 circles on any other door scan, but its JUST the keyvard door he cant see the last 4th circle on, its consistant

[craggy pier]

it might be a connection issue

[tribal ether]

Then you could just have him defend, while the rest of the team does the scan

[sage pecan]

i still think its worth investigation instead of just using workarounds

maybe ask d0c about it

[distant ice]

There's an infinite amount of workarounds, it's just a very interesting problem

[tribal ether]

Ik

Just until it's fixed

[sage pecan]

@gaunt blade u can try asking @lilac fulcrum but be prepared to send some files

[distant ice]

[bronze kite]

Not sure if this is where i should post this, but are there going to be dedicated servers at some point?

[tribal ether]

Dedicated servers?

[distant ice]

not sure if i understand/can explain correctly, but in practice a dedicated server would be a program run separately from the game that hosts, well, a server. I guess in this game it'd be a lobby. Naturally that means you can operate the server without having the game launched, and the most prominent feature in it is custom content

[tribal ether]

Hmm

[ocean moth]

How exactly does silent melee attacks work? It still alerts sleepers nearby

[distant ice]

it always does that in a certain distance (3m-ish)

[craggy pier]

if you hit the ground and/or wall near the sleeper it will trigger immediately

[distant ice]

otherwise it depends on the distance and if they're awake

[sage pecan]

yea "silent" as a weapon description is misleading

its certainly quiet

but sure as hell isnt totally silent

[distant ice]

what would a silent weapon be

chloroform?

walks up to sleeper
-Does this smell like chloroform to you?

[sage pecan]

sleeper: -is already sleeping-

[distant ice]

well now it's sleeping^2

https://discordapp.com/channels/408196129470152705/585063132553281556/697076117580021831

like this

[craggy pier]

can you shove a scout to stagger it/

[sage pecan]

@distant ice LMFAO

bruh 😂

that poor shooter

[distant ice]

No

It triggers instantly

But it seems that once it screams it staggers more easily so then it might work

But that beats the point

[lapis star]

point is, you pissed it off.

Nawt gud

[ocean moth]

Any tips for beating B1? We are in the huge room leading to 719, cleared 720 and we aren't sure we should risk to get the supplies in 721..

[tribal ether]

||The supplies in 721 should be pretty good, and the alarm isn't too long ||

[daring forge]

anyone figure out how we unlock the other levels

[ocean moth]

Unzipped how do I hide for spoilers?

[tribal ether]

Idk

Don't click them?

[ocean moth]

The text, you just hid it for spoilers, or was that automatic?

No I want to ask you another question but I don't want to spoil

[tribal ether]

Wait, you're asking how to put a spoiler tag?

[ocean moth]

Yes

[tribal ether]

Highlite the text, then click the eye

[distant ice]

It's called warden restriction and the levels will unlock after enough people clear existing ones

Need a "way too frequently asked" channel

[tribal ether]

Did someone ask that?

[daring forge]

but i mean i know people have been completing the other levels and its barely gone up

[near wigeon]

hello people

[sturdy dew]

im pretty sure that the % will only go up when the devs release a new patch

[thorny current]

hello Sanarrrrrrrrr

[full sundial]

UnZipped, 721 wouldn't be worth it for them lol

that's the other ||bloody door||

and that being open would make the 719 ||alarm even more difficult||

@ocean moth if you need more supplies, you can try the 718 alarm, don't open both 720 and 721

[tribal ether]

Oh, my bad, still don't know that map inside out

Thougt it was 718 they he was meaning

[full sundial]

it's good, just making sure that this decision hopefully won't ruin their run lol

[craggy pier]

718 is high risk higher reward

cause there is a ||scout|| unless one person in the team knows how to deal with it.

[tribal ether]

Isn't there only like one scout in there?

Ye

[full sundial]

yeah, if you don't like hammering scouts, c foam and hammer, or just blast its head off with a shotgun

[stoic dove]

C1 is pretty unfair in my Opinion ,||I mean we got now 2times in a row 2 Rooms each with 3 Scouts in it, while other runs we had barley 1 or 2 scout closed followed up. its not hardcore in my opnion ist just bad RNG, that we can instantly restart the round when seeng more then 2 scouts in 1 room there. also the ressource is almost non exsistetal so that every wave basicly means almost dead that its impossible to beat the invisible guys in the first uplink or even after the security door that follows up quickly.|| Any tipps? were struggeling hard

[craggy pier]

does your team have a dedicated sniper?

its not essential but if you wanna be sure not to trigger the scout use the sniper

[stoic dove]

we have but if the 3 scouts cross each other its impossible to not trigger them when killing one

and going stealth is just rng too

[craggy pier]

you dont have to do the uplinks in the order you see them, you can go in which ever way you want

[tribal ether]

How is stealth RNG?

[stoic dove]

avoiding random spawned enemies that walk random routs each then go other walking points as soon as the door is opend or an enemie is killed

is not rng?

[thorny current]

that is the ai programmed. There is almost no randomness to the movement of Scouts. Sure spawns are rng though

[stoic dove]

you dont have to do the uplinks in the order you see them, you can go in which ever way you want
@craggy pier thats acctually a good idea, we didnt try to to the uplink later

[craggy pier]

what we did when we played C1 is we did the 1st uplink terminal last

[stoic dove]

basicly c1 for me is right now as soon as we see 2 or 3 scouts in 1 room, we restart cuz its almost impossible to beat the alarm door after that

[craggy pier]

C1 is a good place to learn how to melee scouts imo

[thorny current]

what is your teams loadout eis

?

[tribal ether]

@stoic dove How they spawn might be RNG, but how you perform stealth is not

[thorny current]

the tools

[stoic dove]

biotracker, sniper, 3 sentry shotguns

combat shotgun and smg the rest

[thorny current]

try 2 mines cfoam and tracker

[tribal ether]

Sentries are kinda oof on C1

[thorny current]

sentries are pretty shit on this map

[craggy pier]

^

[stoic dove]

@stoic dove How they spawn might be RNG, but how you perform stealth is not
@tribal ether stealthing 3 scouts is rng imo, but i guess thats up to everyones thoughts

[tribal ether]

Getting 3 scouts in one room, I agree is shit RNG, tho still the stealth part is not

[craggy pier]

the point zipped is trying to make is the spawns are RNG but how you tackle that RNG is not

[tribal ether]

Ye

Precisely

[craggy pier]

practice makes perfect

[stoic dove]

anyway making it more usefull to reset the round then to acutally play it cuz of the enemy spawn makes it not challenging it just makes it feel unfair for me

[craggy pier]

get used to meleeing the scouts yourself if your group needs 1 man for the job

[thorny current]

you can also use cfoam to make it easier on yourself with the scouts.

[craggy pier]

^

[tribal ether]

Resetting cus of bad RNG is not the games fault tho. Working with shit RNG is sometimes required

[craggy pier]

its not that were saying git gud, but....

[thorny current]

lol

[tribal ether]

Getting the perfect run, will most likely not happen

[thorny current]

except for A1

[tribal ether]

So learning to power trough that shit RNG, is good

Yeah, A1 is an exception

[thorny current]

That is true. Multiple scouts in one room just makes it more diffcult, but in a good way. Because you always have to change your approach. So you and your team have to adapt in certain situations or you could simply snipe them everytime. Cfoam is a nice way to kill them with the hammer, esp if you have no experience with melee killing them. Also the sentries are just useless when you start the uplinks. They cant put out consistent dmg. If you go for mines it should become easier for you.

Not that I celebrate multiple Scouts in one room^^

[twilit edge]

I usually snipe the scouts, I don't like getting close to them, they're creepy

For some reason I just went Ultra Instinct with this run. I killed many enemies with the hammer, dodging all their attacks- I 'unno how I pulled it off.

[craggy pier]

The man with the freaky fred PFP is scared of a scout? Colour me surprised

[twilit edge]

Freaky Fred is not scary, he's precious

[craggy pier]

Trust me they ain’t all that nasty to deal with once you’ve got enough experience with em the main issue is when there’s more than one and the sleepers next to em

[twilit edge]

Well we've been having terrible luck with sleepers, so we're not bothering-

Just the two of us, around 12 sleepers in a lot of rooms? yeah no-

[craggy pier]

I’ve dealt with twice as many it just it’s easily doable with twelve sleepers but when they’re grouped up with around 6 or 7? Yeah it’ll be hard but with some finely crafted coordinated strikes it can be down

No one should just go out and clear a room of sleepers by themselves it’s just leads to fucking up even more

[twilit edge]

They're always grouped up. At least by packs of five

[craggy pier]

But I know I’m a culprit of this so I’m just saying this from experience

[twilit edge]

And since we're only two players, we usually have to kill the isolated ones, then set up a crossfire and handle the last ones the rough way

[craggy pier]

Well here’s a little advanced tip to help you with those pesky groupers

If your behind a sleepe and can get a clean shot on the back of its head with a hammer you can kill it with just a simple click

Works with all small sleepers

Look to where they’re positioned find the best way to take em as many out and presto you just cleared a group of em out

Though it sounds easy when said you’ll have to practice it no doubt

[waxen garnet]

Do guns have damage fall off in this game, or is their range descriptions for general accuracy?

[sage pecan]

@waxen garnet from what ive experimented with in rundown 1, the "range" ratings are indeed for damage falloff

idk if its changed but i believe the "long range" rated dmr and sniper dont have falloff

"medium range" stuff has more falloff

and obviously "short range" rated has the most aggressive falloff

[waxen garnet]

Yeah I've been trying to figure it out exactly

[sage pecan]

honestly i dont have proof

i just found in rundown 1 that the dmr could oneshot shooters at any range

the revolver one-shot them at close range, but didnt if i shot them from two rooms over

thats how i can tell theres damage falloff

but i cant say exactly

[waxen garnet]

My play group and I are trying to figure out why shotguns are basically shit unless the barrel is in the infected's mouth because of [reasons]

[sage pecan]

xdd

[waxen garnet]

IT's a toss up between damage fall off or pellet spread

[sage pecan]

yea im not sure whether its either

good question tho

but honestly i cant tell either

[waxen garnet]

The SMG and other short range fully automatics also suffer in the same way

[sage pecan]

i cant say much about those cuz i never use the

them*

i like shotguns more than short range autos

but yea definitely if u could record and compile evidence u could get some rep in here

i think*

[waxen garnet]

I can't imagine no one else has not looked into this yet

but I've no idea where to look lol

[sage pecan]

lolol

honestly i dont think most people care

the consequence of guessing wrong is pretty catastrophic in this game

so everyone plays it safe and never investigates details

thats my guess as to why its not a well-studied topic

i dont blame them honestly

i wouldnt wanna mess up game time with some dumb experiment

i just wanna win and go sleep/do homework

[waxen garnet]

I mean you just get people together to experiment, but not everyone has that time

[sage pecan]

true

yea if u coudl find a reliable group

thats willing to experiment with u

that would be ideal

i am not such a person xd

[waxen garnet]

gg

[sage pecan]

but gl finding them 👍

idk if it helps but

the pump shotgun shoots 10 pieces per shot

while combat shotgun is 6

at least thats what i remember from rundown 1

and assuming it hasnt changed, then thats what u get per shot

also the combat shotgun has wider spread, which means the fewer pellets need to cover more space

so its hard to tell whether ur shot is rly gonna kill them unless theyre so close

that ur guaranteed to have all pieces hit

and even then u should aim for the head

pump shotgun has tighter spread and more pieces to work with

so u can kill stuff from farther than u could w/ combat

[waxen garnet]

It makes sense in that regard for spread/pellet count

[sage pecan]

yep

kinda makes combat shotgun "underpowered" but i still like it

the enemies try to get closer to me anyway!

[waxen garnet]

Combat shotty is good to stagger with but forget killing lol

[full kettle]

oi give me questions not long chat boxes

[sage pecan]

i sorry @full kettle

[full kettle]

❤️

[waxen garnet]

Well, my question remains if the game uses damage fall off mechanics or not

because the behavior of some weapons is hard to discern

[sage pecan]

o yea can u give us input paradigm

i say there is damage falloff, but thats just my experience

i dont have any recorded proof

[full kettle]

i use an smg and machinepistol w/ shotgun combo

I don't deal with range >.>

[sage pecan]

bruh

fair enough xd

[full kettle]

why waste ammo on far away enemy when enemy comes to you and my zoom scope is a 7x?

[sage pecan]

none of the scopes have that strong zoom tho

[full kettle]

like looking thru a pair of binoculars to stab someone

[sage pecan]

even the sniper isnt that strong

[full kettle]

yeh but it is the theory behind the response

[sage pecan]

true

[full kettle]

cause it narrows the fov when you ads

and drastically so for certain weapons

[sage pecan]

yeayea

honestly the optics should be cleaner

i dont need all this visual garbage

@full sundial are the range ratings (e.g. short range, medium range, long range) for the damage falloff behavior?
@waxen garnet was asking abt it

personally i remember from rundown1 that there was dmg falloff

i tried using sniper and dmr and none of them seemed to suffer dmg falloff, but the revolver's one shot kill ability was limited to a finite range

so thats why i think there is but i didnt record any of it

[full sundial]

seems like it, HeavyBox, I was using the revolver and at range, when I am pretty sure I landed a headshot, it wouldn't kill sometimes

but at medium range/close range, it does one shot to the head

but that could be me missing, but I am pretty sure I landed the shot on the head

since they were running in a straight line, it was hard to miss the head

[wild blaze]

Is it possible to add GTFO to geforce now?

[desert yoke]

Is is usable in my knowledge

I tried it once.

But my internet is to bad x3

[sage pecan]

thx @full sundial , theres ur answer @waxen garnet

[waxen garnet]

aight

[placid cobalt]

the revolver does have damage fall-off, I don't know the exact numbers but it does lose its one-tap potential at ~30 meters

[dusty night]

just wondering... ||in b3 there's zone_165 which is above zone_164 which has the scout and the keys... is there a reason for that zone or is it just a resources zone?||

[placid cobalt]

resource

[full kettle]

if i remember correctly, it should be a resource room

is that one of the extra security doors?

[placid cobalt]

yesh

[full sundial]

@wild blaze yup, you can, that's the only way I am able to play GTFO lol

[vital sierra]

@dusty night 165 is loot zone

[radiant wasp]

so

B3

i did the uplink

but nothing is happening

no extraction point or anything

what do i do?

[minor fractal]

Probably a bug

[radiant wasp]

well poop

[vital sierra]

what do mean uplink

uplink_connected IP

or you type in uplink_verify?

[radiant wasp]

yes

||i did the codes and the horde is stil coming, the connection said successful||

[vital sierra]

idk then

after finish the last one

it will say to run back to get extraction

or

[radiant wasp]

oh

nvm

it updated

lmao

[vital sierra]

you need

ye

[radiant wasp]

that took forever

[vital sierra]

no

the terminal work as

if you're AT the terminal

it will update

if you leave

before the terminal said it's done

then it will stuck

at 99% or something until you run back to that terminal

the terminal can be reset and make it unavailable if one guy is at the terminal , log out to see what the code

but

the other guy run at you

trigger the terminal to reset

that's why i tell my teammate to back off until i am done

[radiant wasp]

ohhh

yep

thats what happened

[vital sierra]

i don't want my teammate to cause the terminal to go blank

[radiant wasp]

mhm

tysm

@vital sierra

[vital sierra]

👍

remember

SOCIAL DISTANCES, PEOPLE

[radiant wasp]

OFC!!

I FORGOT

[vital sierra]

leave me and my terminal ALONE

[radiant wasp]

exactly

[uncut trout]

can you change the cycle of the sleepers and synchronize all of them by using a flashlight?

[vital sierra]

yes

[uncut trout]

thanks, i had that theory but i was having trouble actually doing it

[reef condor]

so did they added new spawns where the enemy spawn?

it seems more random

[muted arrow]

Why is the servers getting shut down since the game was a colossal flop?

[tawdry leaf]

[craggy pier]

@reef condor eh I’ve seen the spawns of alarm doors and to me it seems to be more random yes hell even in C1 I’ve seen scout waves spawn enemies further up then where we haven’t been though it’s only 2 or one sleeper that actually spawns that way

[magic sierra]

any guide for r2b3?

[reef condor]

hmmm

yeah it seems way more random compared to before where they come from just 1 side

its good in a sense but makes turrets kinda pointless

[craggy pier]

Don’t get me wrong there are some maps where they’ll spawn in a certain spawn point take for instance B1 they’ll only spawn near the entrance and the ||motion door you open|| so sentries have their uses

But for maps like C1 and D1 the spawn points are so fucked that you can have them spawn. On top of you

[magic sierra]

kancer kyle you have any tips for b1?

[craggy pier]

B1? I ain’t a pro by ray should set you up

[minor fractal]

@reef condor The spawn mechanics are the same as they used to be

Any room 2 away is a spawn point.

[magic sierra]

what tools for b1

[reef condor]

really?

[minor fractal]

Yes.

||C1 has exceptions||

[reef condor]

huh ok

thanks i will keep that in mind

[craggy pier]

Hey guys, sorry if this is in the wrong channel, I have three friends, we just got to the big door on b1 with the class ix alarm on it. I'm wondering if that is the end of the level or if there is anything more beyond that section

[radiant fable]

we request no spoilers

[vital sierra]

then why ask

[radiant fable]

i told him not to ask

[craggy pier]

@craggy pier if ya could try and use spoil tags when asking about levels if ya don’t know how just type in these on your keyboard | | together at the beginning and end of a sentence just so that if newbies stubble upon this channel they aren’t going to get spoiled

[vital sierra]

they don't want the spoil

but telling the end it's a spoil

already

you need to play it

[craggy pier]

And also ||once ya do finish the alarm there ain’t nothing left it’s just and extraction||

[radiant fable]

thats a really long spoiler

[vital sierra]

ummm

Kancer

there is

[craggy pier]

||well there isn’t room wise but what cap was talking about is the fact it spawns waves of giants after ya||

[livid nebula]

can you still join mid game if you dc'd?

[vital sierra]

yes

if you have the lobby id

[full sundial]

unless you were the host ofc

then the game ends

[vital sierra]

you just remind me of Kenny 5 hours run

[spring shell]

@primal pike wants to know how the fuck we're supposed to complete R2-B1

[vital sierra]

git gud

[analog meteor]

Hi. Are there any tricks to using the bio scanner? I would use it, but it sometimes doesn't mark all the enemies that are on the scanner. Has blindsided my team quite a few times. Combine that with the cool down time, and it gets quite cumbersome to use.

It's become an issue with ||C1||

||Those invisible enemies arent being marked properly. Need to figure out how to do it properly.||

[sharp willow]

Bioscaner can mark enemies only if they're moving

[analog meteor]

Yes, I'm aware of that

[craggy pier]

Trust me the bio tracker is the lifeline of a C1 run

[sharp willow]

when theyre standing still you can only see them on your screen and need to tell your teammates how i tlooks

[craggy pier]

||shadows have the shortest marker time when tagged by a bio tracker only lasting upwards of 4-5 seconds so keep that in mind when tracker them so you can maximise tracking all of them||

[sharp willow]

also bioscanner have lock on how much enemies it has scan at once and mark

[analog meteor]

Both are very useful info. Thank you

[rancid compass]

when will they implement mm?

[sharp willow]

when it's ready

[rancid compass]

do they have an idea when

[sharp willow]

Soon™

[worthy pollen]

always check the roadmap

but yeah , soon™️

[full sundial]

also, @analog meteor, when there are a lot of targets and it can't target them all, it prioritizes the ones that are directly in front of the scanner, any too far left/right won't get scanned if there are too many to scan them all

at least that is what I have noticed, maybe it works slightly differently than that

but from my experience, that's the best way I could describe it

[minor fractal]

The bio only tracks things between the two white lines on the sides of the radar. Try to get as many red dots in-between those lines as you can.

[bold shell]

if I stealth a room, and dont kill all of the enemies inside it, and then do an alarm door 2 rooms away, will they aggro on me?

[oblique oar]

it depends if you fire at the enemies

most times it wouldnt, but using guns would trigger them

[minor fractal]

It also depends on if the wave enemies spawn there and if one of them uses their scream ability.

Not sure about scream mechanics, but it's not usually an issue if the enemies that spawn in that room can't see you.

and you're not nearby them.

I actually don't think I've ever had a run in R1C2 where we did doors 98, 99, or 100 where 96A (a spawn point for them and a room filled with titans we typically leave alive) aggroed.

And I've had similar experiences with other alarms

So I'd consider it relatively safe if it's 2 away @bold shell

[bold shell]

good to know

[full sundial]

except if the sleepers are near a door that gets busted open and wakes up to that

which is something that didn't happen in R1, but I think that can happen now in R2

maybe that was something else that caused them to wake up one time I saw it happen though

haven't confirmed if they wake up to doors breaking in R2, but I am pretty sure I heard somewhere that they do now

[vital sierra]

no

they don't

it's just the wave that spawn in the room scream and then broke the door down

[rain jetty]

Hi I need support to help me

[vital sierra]

?

[tribal ether]

What the help they needed, was never found out

[distant ice]

They went to tech support

[tribal ether]

Oh

[sturdy dew]

do we know anything about what a pMother trial sample is yet?

[full sundial]

yup, just tested it, you're right @vital sierra , the door being broken doesn't wake them

[vital sierra]

@full sundial the reason why i know this because one of my C1 run i have a guy pissed off the scout that spawn a wave in a room full of sleeper and they still sleeping even tho there is a wave in there just broke 2 doors

they only scream when they see a player

[full sundial]

yeah, that's how it worked in R1, but I thought I saw somewhere the devs said breaking a door now wakes up enemie

enemies*

I could be making that up tho, or maybe they meant only when a player hits the door

[vital sierra]

or the player hit the ground

[hard scarab]

Does the difficulty rise when the host has already completed the mission? I mean I found much less resources on the map, and I am wondering about that...

[sturdy dew]

nope

theres the same amount of resources on the maps everytime

just in places you missed probably

[hard scarab]

okay thx

[craggy pier]

what equipment would you guys recommend for soloing r2b2

Yeah thats what i've been using, hella useful until you run out

And how do you go about killing strikers

[craggy pier]

?

[sage pecan]

@craggy pier i like using combat shotgun simply because theres alot of ammo for it
back in rundown 1 u could kill strikers with one headshot from combat shotgun if they were close enough and considering how much ammo u get per refill, i thought it was worth it

[craggy pier]

Yeah i used a box to get level with the head of a st4riker and I smashed it with a full charge to the head thinkin it would die but it only ended up killing me

[sage pecan]

wat

i thought full charge hammer to the head of a striker is instakill

small striker*

obviously u cant do that with big strikers

wait is that what you were trying

[craggy pier]

yea

[distant ice]

@lilac fulcrum i made it a suggestion but i have to ask:
Mines trigger to ||infection sacks||, is this intended? Because if so, I really wish you'd reconsider

[sage pecan]

@craggy pier bruh 😂 u cant oneshot the big guys with just one person

i thought u were talking about the little strikers

[craggy pier]

yeah Ik thats what I thought until I was talking to my friends and they told me you could one tap them like scouts with the hammer

[sage pecan]

hell naw

[tribal ether]

You got oooofed

[urban valve]

I bought the game yesterday and it started me in rundown 2

how do I access rundown 1?

[tribal ether]

Ye, rundown 1 is gone

[urban valve]

wow

[tribal ether]

?t runodwn

[eager jacinth]

Sorry, unable to find a tag named runodwn.

[tribal ether]

?t rundown

[eager jacinth]

For information on what the Rundowns are and how they work, take a look at this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHZwiPVOVvA

[tribal ether]

Watch this

[urban valve]

thanks a bunch

[tribal ether]

Np

[radiant fable]

anyone know where i can find a copy of the music that plays when the sleepers wake up

[sage pecan]

@radiant fable looks like someone posted it actually, but its not directly from the 10chambers channel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYT3TqMUE_c&t=78s

[radiant fable]

thanks

is the time you sent important or is it the whole video

[sage pecan]

pretty much whole video

[radiant fable]

ok thx

[sage pecan]

you can recognize it from the first 5 seconds xd

actually it might not be the whole video cuz it seems to loop somewhere

[radiant fable]

im actually using it on my soundboard to prank my friends and make them rhink they woke em up

[tribal ether]

I can just imagine you starting the music, and one of them actually wakes the room in a panic

[plain spire]

guys, is there a specific time to reapply cfoam? like audio cues or visual?

[tribal ether]

I would say when the foam is broken of the door

like right after

[craggy pier]

Hey guys me and two friends are trying b2, do you think for three people, that everyone using mine deployers is a good idea or a terrible one

[tribal ether]

Everyone using a mine deployer could prove difficult, I would recommend having a more divers tool setup

[plain spire]

i mean, i threw one when i heard them hitting the door but was told to wait for every bit of foam bubbles to disappear

[thorny current]

ye i recommend cfoam, mine and a sentry

[tribal ether]

@plain spire Once you start hearing them banging on the door, and not the foam, you refoam

[sage pecan]

i dont see any reason for more than one mine deployer honestly

[tribal ether]

ye

[sage pecan]

if you want extra mines, just plant some where no one goes

and they dont despawn

so you cn pick them up later

[tribal ether]

It's rarely useful to have more then 1

[sage pecan]

yup

o yea do mines actually make noise now

[radiant fable]

how would cfoam be helpfun in b1

[craggy pier]

yeah

[radiant fable]

like theres not really a door we have to reinforce

oh?

[craggy pier]

what are the areas, || like the main door and then one of the bigger doors with the ambush on the other side ||

Sorry i should be using spoiler tags

[delicate radish]

Just wondering, will there be more maps than those displayed on the rundown?

[full kettle]

don't think so

[delicate radish]

If you guys know anything of course

[full kettle]

just up to e1

[delicate radish]

Ah ok

[radiant fable]

OK THANKS

sorry caps

any way to clear chat

no text chat between players

[distant ice]

Is there a way to know how many scans a door's gonna be

I thought terminal commands would have something but doesn't look like it

[dusky hearth]

can anyone explain how they beat C1

[sage pecan]

@distant ice in rundown1 the only way was to memorize it i think

but as far as im aware, theres no way to predict how many layers a scan will take

[tribal ether]

Only way is to remember it

From earlier runs

[distant ice]

Well that sucks

I wonder if a suggestion for a way to learn would go through

[sage pecan]

tru tho

i hope u could query it

to find that kind of stuff

at the same time, it might not make sense

like why would an alarm tell you how it works

if you are the suspected burglar

but still

[distant ice]

Gee well why would the scans be so bitchy in the first place

Magically know how many people are in 'the team', then force them to run to arbitrary places for an arbitrary amount of time

Oh you're digging here? Sorry but my scan circle landed in your way

Let's not logic here

Also scanning the dna (I assume, but IDs don't change much) of 4 people is somehow faster than that of 1

That's a big kek

[sage pecan]

tru tho

plus u can have a sleeper in the bioscan at the same time

[distant ice]

Oh yeah

[sage pecan]

and the security door is like "oH thAAt muST be AuthoRizED peRSOnnEl"

[distant ice]

Authorized personnel

[sage pecan]

xdddd

[distant ice]

Woods check
Bishop check
North nobody cares
Whatever the f that is check

[sage pecan]

obviously it is what remains of Mr. Jeffrey Miller

[distant ice]

Or at least that's what the blood on his teeth tell me