#gtfo-related-questions | GTFO | Page 467

distant ice Mar 20, 2020, 1:23 PM

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i thought permanent progression was a big no

sturdy dew Mar 20, 2020, 1:24 PM

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the devs wanted to add a system where you would find different weapons and items as you progress through the rundown

chilly maple Mar 20, 2020, 1:24 PM

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I see

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The further u get down the more stuff you get with no one having a headstart

sage pecan Mar 20, 2020, 4:22 PM

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@full sundial i do block the ppl i dont like and i do not join lobbies with those ppl
the problem with not joining those people is that chronologically, i must always be the last person to join a lobby so i can be sure the three others are ok
these kinds of restrictions limit how many groups i can join

real pasture Mar 20, 2020, 4:29 PM

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so i know that they wipe the previous rundowns when new ones come out, but that makes me worried that missions will never get over a certain "level of difficulty" b/c rundown 10 could be someone's first time playing the game, and that could be a really terrible experience for that player/party if rundown 10 is much more difficult than rd 1 or rd 2. it could also get annoying for skilled players in that they end up having to do a bunch of "easier" levels in order to get back to the later, harder levels.

it just seems limiting for the "growth" of the game? and that could genuinely just be because i'm not looking at this correctly, if i'm missing anything i'd love to hear it, but it just seems odd to me. imo this is remedied by somehow keeping the older rundowns, but i do understand not keeping them so that the community is always cooperating on the same stuff. i think if they were locked behind some like "older levels" option somewhere in settings, clarifying to the player that this isn't the current experience, but that they could play them if they really wanted to - would be a really nice feature.
regardless i've been enjoying the game a lot, just worried as to how it'll pan out over time

sage pecan Mar 20, 2020, 4:30 PM

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@real pasture thats a good point and idk how devs are gonna handle it but i hope each rundown has "tutorial" levels and that new players dont need to have played the first rundown

real pasture Mar 20, 2020, 4:30 PM

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i agree but i think that could get annoying tho

sage pecan Mar 20, 2020, 4:31 PM

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i guess but honestly im fine with going through tutorial levels again

thorny current Mar 20, 2020, 4:32 PM

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Tbh I dont think this will be problem. Atleast for now. A1 of R2 already looks harder than A1 of R1. I believe it gets harder. A1 might be the only one which stays more newcomer freindly. Also it is a hardcore game. So I believe it only gets harder

sage pecan Mar 20, 2020, 4:33 PM

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@thorny current it shouldnt get so hard that its inaccessible tho

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that would discourage new players

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and devs said they would be "self funded" from sales of the game

real pasture Mar 20, 2020, 4:33 PM

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I would like it to get harder, I’m just apprehensive as to how the difficulty would be for new players or even players who missed out on finishing a rundown

kind trail Mar 20, 2020, 4:34 PM

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To my knowledge perm.progression is something that was planned

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old knowlege though

minor fractal Mar 20, 2020, 4:35 PM

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@real pasture Most experienced players already play levels several times, so requiring they beat a few easy levels to get down isn't too demanding. The levels will also be hardest on the first plays, since so many advantages in R1 are from map knowledge.

real pasture Mar 20, 2020, 4:35 PM

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thats fair, yeah

distant ice Mar 20, 2020, 4:36 PM

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since the game is in early access there's a lot of new stuff to learn for all players, hell, maybe in the final version stealth will be nothing like what we have now

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old players should have things to learn in new rundowns' "easier" levels too

hasty mauve Mar 20, 2020, 5:19 PM

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We wouldn't want to balance the game so rundown 3 is 200% harder than Rundown 1, just cause a lot of players played it,

hopefully the balance will be both appealing to new players, and old players alike

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permanent progressing will come, but not this rundown

distant ice Mar 20, 2020, 5:20 PM

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what kind of permanent progress are we looking at

minor fractal Mar 20, 2020, 5:30 PM

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@hasty mauve How much will difficulty vary between rundowns? Are you aiming for making some rundowns easier and some much harder, or is there are golden level of difficulty the team is looking for?

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(in-so-far as each letter is a difficulty, rather than some rundowns going further down and others not)

distant ice Mar 20, 2020, 5:32 PM

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would be fun if they did it environment- or story-wise, depending on when and where you're at the difficulty naturally scales

hasty mauve Mar 20, 2020, 5:34 PM

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I mean, hopefully, the tiers will determine the difficulty right?
so a A tier, you know what to expect,

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and E tier, you wouldn't want to touch with a stick if you really don't like a challenge

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granted D1 wasn't as hard as we wanted it to be in R1, but we're only human 😉

distant ice Mar 20, 2020, 5:35 PM

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i think he means what tiers we should expect more of

minor fractal Mar 20, 2020, 5:36 PM

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Nah, I was wondering about the consistency of a particular tier's difficulty.

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So I got what I was looking for, they're aiming to make each tier about the same level of challenge.

hasty mauve Mar 20, 2020, 5:38 PM

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that's the plan, so here's to hoping we succeed 😉

elfin depot Mar 20, 2020, 6:36 PM

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can you beat a1 with only three people?

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my friends and i keep getting to the keycard door but we cant beat the scan

sturdy dew Mar 20, 2020, 6:37 PM

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you can

elfin depot Mar 20, 2020, 6:37 PM

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any tips

sturdy dew Mar 20, 2020, 6:40 PM

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what tools are you using?

distant ice Mar 20, 2020, 6:40 PM

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keep the doors intact and c-foam them

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2 sentries outside and you're good

elfin depot Mar 20, 2020, 6:40 PM

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ok

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thats what we tried but my turret was low

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and how do you clear rooms with scouts

distant ice Mar 20, 2020, 6:41 PM

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you should manage to finish the scans before they get in though

elfin depot Mar 20, 2020, 6:45 PM

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is that even what they're called

distant ice Mar 20, 2020, 6:45 PM

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yes

elfin depot Mar 20, 2020, 6:45 PM

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i watched a playthrough and thats what they were calling them

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ok

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if there is a scout should we prioritize killing the scout first?

distant ice Mar 20, 2020, 6:46 PM

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idk about others but i try not to

pliant herald Mar 20, 2020, 6:46 PM

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You should clear some of the room out first

distant ice Mar 20, 2020, 6:46 PM

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get enough space so you can walk around and hide if needed

pliant herald Mar 20, 2020, 6:46 PM

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If you have a c-foam launcher, hit the scout with it

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Should take 2 hits at most

elfin depot Mar 20, 2020, 6:49 PM

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and cfoam wont alert anything?

pliant herald Mar 20, 2020, 6:49 PM

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Nope

thorny current Mar 20, 2020, 6:49 PM

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Kill some but dont too much. Not that it rly matters in A1 most of the time. Only clear those enemies to get an easy path to kill the Scout. When you leave most enemies alive and fail to kill the Scout the wave, which spawns is smaller.

elfin depot Mar 20, 2020, 6:50 PM

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ok

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my other friend just got on

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what tools should we do

thorny current Mar 20, 2020, 6:50 PM

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for A1?

elfin depot Mar 20, 2020, 6:50 PM

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yeah

pliant herald Mar 20, 2020, 6:50 PM

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For A1, shotgun sentries and c-foam launcher

thorny current Mar 20, 2020, 6:50 PM

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What Akela says^^

sturdy dew Mar 20, 2020, 6:50 PM

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are you 3 people or 4 now?

elfin depot Mar 20, 2020, 6:50 PM

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two of each?

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4

pliant herald Mar 20, 2020, 6:51 PM

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Should only need 1 C-Foam Launcher

sturdy dew Mar 20, 2020, 6:51 PM

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id personally run one c foam, 2 shottgun and one biotracker

thorny current Mar 20, 2020, 6:51 PM

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The 4th can choose what he wants. Another turret the tracker or the mines

pliant herald Mar 20, 2020, 6:51 PM

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The best way to deploy the sentries is where they will shoot the enemies in the back for more damage

sturdy dew Mar 20, 2020, 6:51 PM

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3 shotgun sentries is gonna sap all the tool refills

thorny current Mar 20, 2020, 6:52 PM

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Well they dont need to deploy all of them at once though 😋

distant ice Mar 20, 2020, 6:52 PM

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you don't have to place all 3 of them all the time GWdogawooThrugging

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1st

pliant herald Mar 20, 2020, 6:52 PM

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The first alarm door should only require one if you c-foam the door leading to it

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The second one requires 2 at most

thorny current Mar 20, 2020, 6:53 PM

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Well let them experiment a little too. It is boring if we tell them everything^^

distant ice Mar 20, 2020, 6:53 PM

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wish i had 3 friends

thorny current Mar 20, 2020, 6:53 PM

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Awww

distant ice Mar 20, 2020, 6:53 PM

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i'd bring a mine deployer

elfin depot Mar 20, 2020, 6:53 PM

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we've experimented a lot lol

sturdy dew Mar 20, 2020, 6:53 PM

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i think learning how to use the biotracker is a good idea

distant ice Mar 20, 2020, 6:53 PM

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get a feel for it

elfin depot Mar 20, 2020, 6:53 PM

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the game doesnt have a tutorial or anything so

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we're kinda lost lol

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alright we're gonan give it a go thanks guys

distant ice Mar 20, 2020, 6:53 PM

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there's a how to play wiki page

elfin depot Mar 20, 2020, 6:53 PM

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oh

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i just watched videos

sturdy dew Mar 20, 2020, 6:54 PM

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yeah i hear the guy who wrote it is a dick

thorny current Mar 20, 2020, 6:54 PM

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Ok, also you know you can fortify doors with cfoam?

elfin depot Mar 20, 2020, 6:54 PM

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yeah

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we were doing that

thorny current Mar 20, 2020, 6:54 PM

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The guy from the wiki?

sturdy dew Mar 20, 2020, 6:55 PM

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yeah the person who wrote the how to play page is a dick

distant ice Mar 20, 2020, 6:55 PM

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the how to play page seems fine to me

sturdy dew Mar 20, 2020, 6:55 PM

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aw thanks

distant ice Mar 20, 2020, 6:55 PM

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wow really

thorny current Mar 20, 2020, 6:55 PM

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xD

sturdy dew Mar 20, 2020, 6:55 PM

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hahah im the one who wrote it

distant ice Mar 20, 2020, 6:55 PM

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i figured

sturdy dew Mar 20, 2020, 6:55 PM

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its just my joke to call the writer a dick

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oh

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i didnt figure you figured

distant ice Mar 20, 2020, 6:56 PM

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i figured but it was too late to figure

shell galleon Mar 20, 2020, 7:38 PM

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Go figure.

kind trail Mar 20, 2020, 7:48 PM

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dude the original writer sucked

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like your version is much better

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I did a sweep before you re-wrote it and it was an oof

sturdy dew Mar 20, 2020, 7:58 PM

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thank you :)

vast seal Mar 20, 2020, 8:16 PM

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does anyone know the optimal way to do C1

distant ice Mar 20, 2020, 8:16 PM

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behead naruto runners and leave one guy to run in circles while the rest chill for 20 minutes

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GWrjkKappaLUL

vast seal Mar 20, 2020, 8:17 PM

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so kill all except for runners and then behead runners?

distant ice Mar 20, 2020, 8:18 PM

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was a joke

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it's a cheap tactic and only really need to do that if you have 2 people or solo

vast seal Mar 20, 2020, 8:19 PM

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what about for four people?

distant ice Mar 20, 2020, 8:22 PM

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honestly don't know what the optimal way is

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personally never played as 4 and haven't seen people discussing how to

vast seal Mar 20, 2020, 8:24 PM

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diddly darn. is the 1-2 man strat generally the way most people do it?]

kind trail Mar 20, 2020, 8:24 PM

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2-3 I’ve found

distant ice Mar 20, 2020, 8:24 PM

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kek no, it's way too boring

thorny current Mar 20, 2020, 8:25 PM

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If you want a good position use the entrance of the forklift room. Take 4 shotgun sentries, but only use 2 for the waves

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Try and keep them functional

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And keep high use re packages near your team to refill your stuff quickly

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Have 1 dedicated person as your terminal guy

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The rest defends

vast seal Mar 20, 2020, 8:26 PM

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didnt think of running quad shotgun sentries. thanks for the tips

thorny current Mar 20, 2020, 8:27 PM

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Hope it works for you 🙂

distant ice Mar 20, 2020, 8:27 PM

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i do know that if you need time you don't have to verify as soon as possible

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give yourself extra 40 seconds to clean up the waves and restock

thorny current Mar 20, 2020, 8:29 PM

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I would say you have always enough time for that. Btw the terminal guy needs roughly 30 seconds from the forklift room to the reactor

vast seal Mar 20, 2020, 8:31 PM

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i dont right now know which room has the fork lift but im sure i can find it\

thorny current Mar 20, 2020, 8:32 PM

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From the view of the reactor: First Reactor room, then corridor, then bridge room then forklift room.^^

vast seal Mar 20, 2020, 8:37 PM

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thank you for the intel 😃

distant ice Mar 20, 2020, 9:07 PM

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@elfin depot way too late but I just realized I should mention since a lot of newbies have this problem

minor fractal Mar 20, 2020, 9:07 PM

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@vast seal @thorny current There's a better strat in 62

distant ice Mar 20, 2020, 9:07 PM

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If someone triggers try to melee them

elfin depot Mar 20, 2020, 9:07 PM

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thanks for the vid btw

minor fractal Mar 20, 2020, 9:07 PM

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close one door, leave the other open. All the enemies run by some stalls, and you can put all the sentries there.

distant ice Mar 20, 2020, 9:07 PM

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If they scream, run and don't shoot

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Shoot alert range is much bigger than them screaming

minor fractal Mar 20, 2020, 9:07 PM

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Actually piss easy, two turrets mops up the vast majority of them.

elfin depot Mar 20, 2020, 9:08 PM

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alright

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thanks

distant ice Mar 20, 2020, 9:08 PM

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Get back to a cleared room and then open fire

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Also when in trouble kiting them is better than holding your ground

elfin depot Mar 20, 2020, 9:09 PM

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alright me and my buddies got past a1

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we're not to great at stealth yet so we had some trouble on b1

pliant herald Mar 20, 2020, 9:10 PM

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Stealth is all about patience and being aware of your surroundings

distant ice Mar 20, 2020, 9:10 PM

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You do know about flashlight syncing enemies right

elfin depot Mar 20, 2020, 9:13 PM

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i didnt

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but is it so the all glow at the same time?

distant ice Mar 20, 2020, 9:13 PM

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Basically yes

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Thing is

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Within 3ish meters enemies will go red guaranteed when you kill one

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Further away they will only trigger if they're awake

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Distance depends on enemy type

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But basically you flash them so they all go awake and settle down for a clear kill

elfin depot Mar 20, 2020, 9:15 PM

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do the big ones trigger easier

distant ice Mar 20, 2020, 9:15 PM

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Nope same

elfin depot Mar 20, 2020, 9:15 PM

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oh ok

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how many different types of enemies are there?

distant ice Mar 20, 2020, 9:15 PM

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I mean shooter vs striker

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Are the two main ones in this rundown

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Oh and I had this problem at first too

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Sometimes you instinctively crouch when you hear one near you

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Don't, crouching and standing up makes noise

elfin depot Mar 20, 2020, 9:17 PM

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oh

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that helps lol

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any tips for b1

distant ice Mar 20, 2020, 9:19 PM

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Just in general I usually kill a room starting from one side and leaving tricky spots (big guys and clusters) for last

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If there's a scout it'd help if the one with pump shotgun tries to melee him

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If you think you won't make the melee and can't run, blast him, a good shot will kill

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Much better than dealing with the summoned wave

elfin depot Mar 20, 2020, 9:20 PM

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normally we have one guy with a sniper incase

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to kill the scout

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is that bad

distant ice Mar 20, 2020, 9:21 PM

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It's a crutch

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You lose a valuable weapon slot

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If you're too afraid just cfoam

vast seal Mar 20, 2020, 9:21 PM

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thanks for the tips @minor fractal that should help alot

elfin depot Mar 20, 2020, 9:22 PM

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is two shotgun turrets cfoam and biotracker good for b1

distant ice Mar 20, 2020, 9:23 PM

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Again I've only played alone and with one friend so don't know group tactics

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But a shotgun sentry is really powerful

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The 2nd is either mines or another sentry for us

thorny current Mar 20, 2020, 9:23 PM

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That looks fine @elfin depot

distant ice Mar 20, 2020, 9:23 PM

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I think cfoam is more useful when there's doors to defend around

thorny current Mar 20, 2020, 9:24 PM

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For the second alarm the launcher has high value

distant ice Mar 20, 2020, 9:27 PM

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If I can say one thing about bio though

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The few times we took it, I noticed we quickly become too dependent on it, trouble clearing when split up and can lose habits of hearing everything

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Maybe you can make a minigame for yourself out of it, guess how many you hear and where then check on bio

elfin depot Mar 20, 2020, 9:31 PM

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alright

thorny current Mar 20, 2020, 9:31 PM

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That is interesting. Never had that problem. Most of the time my team doesnt even have one^^

elfin depot Mar 20, 2020, 9:31 PM

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ig we'll give b1 another try later

distant ice Mar 20, 2020, 9:32 PM

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That's the thing, we almost never take it, so I guess we're affected even more by it

placid cobalt Mar 21, 2020, 1:37 AM

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in fact if you hear one and are trying to leave it alone, walking will cover more distance than crouching before their hearts begin to beat

hot jolt Mar 21, 2020, 2:16 AM

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if you open a whole map

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all them doors

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and, lets say, I alert a scout

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does ALL the monsters from the map hear it?

sturdy dew Mar 21, 2020, 2:17 AM

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no it will only be the enemies from the room its in

hot jolt Mar 21, 2020, 2:17 AM

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thks

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how's the correct way to silent-kill using the mine deployer? I got it by accident one time, and the other i got myself killed

sturdy dew Mar 21, 2020, 2:23 AM

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i wouldnt recommend using that method cause its being removed in the next rundown

lilac fulcrum Mar 21, 2020, 2:30 AM

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don't get used to it, it's fixed in rundown 2

minor fractal Mar 21, 2020, 2:37 AM

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@hot jolt Use a c-foam launcher and spray it a bit.

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Kill it within 7 seconds ideally, or stay the fuck away and let it return to walking.

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If you touch it while it's frozen or kill something adjacent to it, it will wake when it unfreezes.

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Else, it doesn't give a shit.

full sundial Mar 21, 2020, 2:53 AM

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Oh, I never let the scout survive being c foamed, didn't know as long as you don't wake it the normal way it would just continue to walk

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thought it would instantly wake no matter what after it unfreezes

hot jolt Mar 21, 2020, 2:56 AM

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wow

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didnt know that

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thks guys

full sundial Mar 21, 2020, 2:58 AM

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Yeah, just make sure you don't miss with the c foam lol

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aim for the feet is my suggestion, but some do direct hits

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just easier to hit the feet, aim where it is going so it walks in the c foam, etc

minor fractal Mar 21, 2020, 3:28 AM

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@full sundial Didn't know either until I tested it.

hallow cairn Mar 21, 2020, 5:15 AM

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is there damage falloff on the sniper?

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shot a scout like 50m in the head with a sniper and It didnt kill

reef condor Mar 21, 2020, 5:23 AM

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any tips for C1?

ashen basin Mar 21, 2020, 5:32 AM

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@reef condor there's a bottleneck point you can use with turrets to help make your run easier.

minor fractal Mar 21, 2020, 6:07 AM

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@hallow cairn No, there is not. You missed.

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Bullets do have travel time, however.

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If you do not aim for the top half of the head, there is a good chance you'll hit the neck.

distant ice Mar 21, 2020, 8:14 AM

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how will enemies behave with mines though

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if you're across the whole map when the scout blows up, will the whole room just wallhack to your place? how do they know where you are

thick briar Mar 21, 2020, 12:21 PM

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p sure the sound still originates from you so if ur far enough away they won't get alerted

distant ice Mar 21, 2020, 12:25 PM

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that just makes me imagine the characters making pew pew laser noises

lilac fulcrum Mar 21, 2020, 1:55 PM

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There won't be silent mines in rundown 2

sturdy dew Mar 21, 2020, 1:55 PM

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The room the mine is in will get alerted probably

distant ice Mar 21, 2020, 1:56 PM

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that doesn't answer the question doc

forest elm Mar 21, 2020, 1:58 PM

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There should be a portable minimap

thorny current Mar 21, 2020, 2:02 PM

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if you're across the whole map when the scout blows up, will the whole room just wallhack to your place? how do they know where you are
@distant ice This how the enemy behaves in general. Once you fail or they are awake they hunt you. For example and that happened to my team once. We divided in 3 and 1 and the 1, who was rly far away alerted big strikers. They downed him and those 2 went straight for us. So let us use this rundown. Zone 99 in C2. You put a mine there and stand at the spawn point of C2. The Scout dies cause of mines the room alerts and comes for you. Makes no real sense, but this is the game mechanic.

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This is how the new mines will work. I believe

distant ice Mar 21, 2020, 2:07 PM

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that's what i thought but i just wanted to raise concerns over this behaviour

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if once awake they always know where we are, we need an explanation for that

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just off the top of the head some unkillable enemy that doesn't do anything other than stalk you and make some noise sometimes

thorny current Mar 21, 2020, 2:08 PM

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They will prolly put something in the lore, which would explain that^^ We just need to wait until they have a smart explanation for it.^^

sturdy dew Mar 21, 2020, 2:09 PM

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Maybe they got really good noses

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And they sniff you

thorny current Mar 21, 2020, 2:09 PM

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Strikers dont rly have noses though^^

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hey Soy

sturdy dew Mar 21, 2020, 2:09 PM

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Hey cao

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I mean the nose could be internal

forest elm Mar 21, 2020, 2:09 PM

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Its the sound or vibration made by the sleepers

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I think

thorny current Mar 21, 2020, 2:10 PM

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Well that might be an answer Soy. For example the tongue has some sensors. Once awake it can track you.

sturdy dew Mar 21, 2020, 2:10 PM

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Hm

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I do think that sleepers do echolocation

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That’s why they click

thorny current Mar 21, 2020, 2:12 PM

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Yeah, I believe so too. They dont have eyes so this is one of the only methods to navigate and recognizing prey or enemies

sturdy dew Mar 21, 2020, 2:12 PM

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Yep

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But we don’t know much lore yet so we can’t say anything for sure

craggy pier Mar 21, 2020, 2:13 PM

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Can you even stealth kill the big boys?

sturdy dew Mar 21, 2020, 2:14 PM

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Yes

forest elm Mar 21, 2020, 2:14 PM

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Its the vibrations from the ground

thorny current Mar 21, 2020, 2:14 PM

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4 people fully charged in the back

forest elm Mar 21, 2020, 2:14 PM

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Can you even stealth kill the big boys?
@craggy pier yes

thorny current Mar 21, 2020, 2:14 PM

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1 can aim at the back of the head

forest elm Mar 21, 2020, 2:14 PM

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You can kill one with a shotgun turret and 1 melee hit

craggy pier Mar 21, 2020, 2:15 PM

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Ok, we've only ever been able to stack 3 on them

sturdy dew Mar 21, 2020, 2:15 PM

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You only need three actually

forest elm Mar 21, 2020, 2:15 PM

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You wont trigger the other enemies

sturdy dew Mar 21, 2020, 2:15 PM

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That sounds like a bug

thorny current Mar 21, 2020, 2:15 PM

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yeah

distant ice Mar 21, 2020, 2:15 PM

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wouldn't be surprised if it were fixed along with mines

sturdy dew Mar 21, 2020, 2:15 PM

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Devs are changing how sound works for some things

thorny current Mar 21, 2020, 2:16 PM

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Hopefully the turret door glitch too

craggy pier Mar 21, 2020, 2:16 PM

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Turret door glitch?

sturdy dew Mar 21, 2020, 2:16 PM

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There’s a lot of fixes in R2

distant ice Mar 21, 2020, 2:16 PM

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don't worry about it

sturdy dew Mar 21, 2020, 2:16 PM

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But also a lot of new bugs

thorny current Mar 21, 2020, 2:16 PM

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Not telling you 😋

sturdy dew Mar 21, 2020, 2:16 PM

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I should probably stop talking and get to testing

distant ice Mar 21, 2020, 2:17 PM

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i'll ping you every time i run into a bug next rundown GWrjkKappaLUL

thorny current Mar 21, 2020, 2:17 PM

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Ye, find those nasty bugs Soy. Make the game better 🙂

sturdy dew Mar 21, 2020, 2:17 PM

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Am trying

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It’s hard cause the levels are harder

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Can’t find them all solo anymore

forest elm Mar 21, 2020, 2:18 PM

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They fixed the flashlights

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Its now bright

distant ice Mar 21, 2020, 2:19 PM

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wait wat

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flashlights were broken?

sturdy dew Mar 21, 2020, 2:20 PM

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My thoughts exactly

thorny current Mar 21, 2020, 2:21 PM

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I thought the only bug flashlights have right now is, that they cant shine through broken doors.

forest elm Mar 21, 2020, 2:21 PM

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The flashlights doesn’t light up when you enter or leave a room

distant ice Mar 21, 2020, 2:21 PM

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well that's more a broken door bug than a flashlight bug

thorny current Mar 21, 2020, 2:21 PM

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yeah when you shine through broken doors

sturdy dew Mar 21, 2020, 2:21 PM

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Broken doors seem to be bug magnets

forest elm Mar 21, 2020, 2:22 PM

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They fixed the flashlights and made it brighter

sturdy dew Mar 21, 2020, 2:22 PM

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Did they?

forest elm Mar 21, 2020, 2:22 PM

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The developer rundown

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Saw it

sturdy dew Mar 21, 2020, 2:23 PM

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They didn’t seem different to me

forest elm Mar 21, 2020, 2:23 PM

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It did

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Looked pretty bright through a fog

sturdy dew Mar 21, 2020, 2:26 PM

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Looks the exact same to me

craggy pier Mar 21, 2020, 2:26 PM

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I find it funny some doors only break one direction

distant ice Mar 21, 2020, 2:27 PM

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does look somewhat different but that might just be settings

craggy pier Mar 21, 2020, 2:27 PM

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Like you break it open with your hammer and the metal breaks inward

distant ice Mar 21, 2020, 2:27 PM

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but why would you break a door with your hammer

craggy pier Mar 21, 2020, 2:28 PM

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Get's stuck from C Foam

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I deal with trolling teammates

sturdy dew Mar 21, 2020, 2:28 PM

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You don’t have to break it if it’s c foamed

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Only if enemies hit it

tribal ether Mar 21, 2020, 2:29 PM

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GWjiangPepeThumb

craggy pier Mar 21, 2020, 2:29 PM

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idk, the door gets stuck somehow

vital sierra Mar 21, 2020, 2:29 PM

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got chased by striker, quickly use C foam to freeze yourself so they don't know what are you

craggy pier Mar 21, 2020, 2:31 PM

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I saw a lot of people upvote the suggestion for an enemy that drags away downed teammates
Would be cool if the C Foam had the added use of stopping those enemies from dragging teammates away

forest elm Mar 21, 2020, 2:31 PM

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You can easily open a cfoamed door without destroying it

distant ice Mar 21, 2020, 2:32 PM

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dragging only seems plausible as perma-death

forest elm Mar 21, 2020, 2:32 PM

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Right click the door after the cfoam is gone

distant ice Mar 21, 2020, 2:32 PM

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big no to perma-death

forest elm Mar 21, 2020, 2:32 PM

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Then open it

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You can escape it by quitting

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And rejoining

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No perma death

craggy pier Mar 21, 2020, 2:35 PM

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Perma-death does feel very anti-GTFO

thorny current Mar 21, 2020, 2:46 PM

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I dont rly feel that this dragging enemy would have any form of impact. Looks kinda useless to me

distant ice Mar 21, 2020, 2:46 PM

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as i said

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either perma-death

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or just annoying

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well actually didn't say that just thought it

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maybe could actually be exploited to get people into better positions to revive

thorny current Mar 21, 2020, 2:49 PM

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Maybe just maybe. Other than that you prolly just put in an empty room and thats it. He simply cant go in a not cleared zone

distant ice Mar 21, 2020, 2:50 PM

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maybe a dragging enemy not on incapped but on normal people

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drags away from extraction points

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but that'd be too L4D

full sundial Mar 21, 2020, 2:51 PM

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Yeah, no enemies push the players around right now, they show their force by the amount of aim punch you get rn instead

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Which might change, but I think it is better for gameplay if the player wasn't pushed around/moved by enemies

distant ice Mar 21, 2020, 2:52 PM

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i mean some sort of displacement would work well

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but it's the same deal for players, we can only stagger enemies

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and shove is pointless

full sundial Mar 21, 2020, 2:53 PM

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Shove is useful on big shooter stealth kills, and stopping a woken sleeper from screaming if you don't have time to charge up a hit

distant ice Mar 21, 2020, 2:54 PM

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woken sleeper scenario seems buggy to me

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can't comment on the shooter case

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2 players so we always leave them alone or for last if we have to kill

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but they somehow seem to scream just before dying anyway

distant ice Mar 21, 2020, 7:11 PM

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are there gonna be boss monsters?

wise thicket Mar 21, 2020, 7:27 PM

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yes

distant ice Mar 21, 2020, 7:27 PM

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GWmythiMonkaT

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can you bonk them

wise thicket Mar 21, 2020, 7:27 PM

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no

distant ice Mar 21, 2020, 7:27 PM

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GWseremePeepoLife

elfin depot Mar 21, 2020, 7:28 PM

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is there anything after d1

distant ice Mar 21, 2020, 7:28 PM

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R2 in 10 days

wise thicket Mar 21, 2020, 7:28 PM

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nope

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9

elfin depot Mar 21, 2020, 7:28 PM

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oh thats sick

rough root Mar 21, 2020, 7:34 PM

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its 10

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it comes out on the 31st

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so 10

distant ice Mar 21, 2020, 7:35 PM

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2 kinds of people

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round vs trunc

lilac fulcrum Mar 21, 2020, 7:41 PM

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1010 days.
oh wait we're not counting in binary

sturdy dew Mar 21, 2020, 7:42 PM

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theres only 10 types of people, those who understand binary, and those who dont

distant ice Mar 21, 2020, 7:42 PM

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the answer is A

rough root Mar 21, 2020, 7:46 PM

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this is multiple choice? thought it was written

craggy pier Mar 21, 2020, 7:50 PM

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I thought this was a coloring book

sturdy dew Mar 21, 2020, 7:50 PM

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no its a pop up one

grand fiber Mar 22, 2020, 3:34 AM

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Do the enemies in C1 stop spawning when you are at the point when you need to run back to the entrance?

worthy pollen Mar 22, 2020, 3:34 AM

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there are some missione where they dont spawn but if its one of those missions with the alarm finale , they not gonna stop

grand fiber Mar 22, 2020, 3:35 AM

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I wasn’t 100% sure if the alarm was still going

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Because we sadly just lost after we inputted the finale code for C1 and one of my friends said they were still spawning so we tried to run for it

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And got knocked 😦

ancient plaza Mar 22, 2020, 3:41 AM

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Any tips for B1? Seems like a stranglehold on ammo.

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And there's just so many that stealthing is effectively impossible

worthy pollen Mar 22, 2020, 3:41 AM

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rng

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keep trying and practicing the stealth

ancient plaza Mar 22, 2020, 3:43 AM

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My friends and I are pretty fine at stealthing the rooms we can stealth, but then we get the ones that are impossible to stealth through

worthy pollen Mar 22, 2020, 3:44 AM

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wich rooms are impossible to stealth?

full sundial Mar 22, 2020, 3:44 AM

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no rooms are impossible to stealth when you got four players

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just mistakes are very likely in certain rooms than others based on sleeper positioning

ancient plaza Mar 22, 2020, 3:44 AM

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Well the ones that place 6-7 in close proximity, usually happens in the smaller rooms

full sundial Mar 22, 2020, 3:45 AM

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yeah, have everyone get one guy, then all of you bash the rest before they scream

worthy pollen Mar 22, 2020, 3:45 AM

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yeah

full sundial Mar 22, 2020, 3:45 AM

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if you hit them in the back of the head, they die instantly, the small ones

ancient plaza Mar 22, 2020, 3:45 AM

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We've actually foregone the bio scanner just because we know that there are too many to bother tracking in this floor

full sundial Mar 22, 2020, 3:45 AM

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use that to your advantage for taking out bigger groups as a team

ancient plaza Mar 22, 2020, 3:46 AM

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Yeah, but how do you kill 7 before one screams?

full sundial Mar 22, 2020, 3:46 AM

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you get each person to get near one

forest elm Mar 22, 2020, 3:46 AM

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You can stealth solo

full sundial Mar 22, 2020, 3:46 AM

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then you kill them at the same time

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and then kill the three others as a team

worthy pollen Mar 22, 2020, 3:46 AM

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you can make this

full sundial Mar 22, 2020, 3:46 AM

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as they wake up

worthy pollen Mar 22, 2020, 3:46 AM

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4 guys kill 4
the oother 3 start waking up
make 3 users start left clicking them to push them and one killing them

full sundial Mar 22, 2020, 3:47 AM

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or just charge up to half and hit the head

worthy pollen Mar 22, 2020, 3:47 AM

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yeah

full sundial Mar 22, 2020, 3:47 AM

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they don't scream if you start charging up right away

worthy pollen Mar 22, 2020, 3:47 AM

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many ways to kill lotta guys

full sundial Mar 22, 2020, 3:47 AM

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then bonk em in the head with a half charge

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another way would be to get the ones on the outside of the group

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as long as you don't move too much, you can pick em off two at a time

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kill one, the one near it wakes up, kill that one, the rest stay asleep

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very tricky, but that's how you solo it

forest elm Mar 22, 2020, 3:48 AM

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You can kill 2 of them

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Just right click the one that is about to scream

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And spam left and right

full sundial Mar 22, 2020, 3:49 AM

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yeah, but if others are nearby, that won't work My Dude

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but if the two are alone, you don't need to right click at all

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just hit the one waking up in the back of the head

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and it dies right away

forest elm Mar 22, 2020, 3:50 AM

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You can kill sleepers that are near each other

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Without alerting the others

full sundial Mar 22, 2020, 3:50 AM

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Yes, you can

forest elm Mar 22, 2020, 3:51 AM

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I know

full sundial Mar 22, 2020, 3:51 AM

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I know that you know

forest elm Mar 22, 2020, 3:51 AM

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I know that i know that you know

full sundial Mar 22, 2020, 3:51 AM

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lol

forest elm Mar 22, 2020, 3:52 AM

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You can just sync them with flashlight

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After 1 last beep

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You cant safely kill it

placid cobalt Mar 22, 2020, 6:36 AM

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its possible to do three

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kill one

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half-charge to the head the second one

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then zero charge tap the head of the third and keep on swinging

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if you get lucky with their arrangement

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you can even kill the second one with a zero-charge to its occiput

dull schooner Mar 22, 2020, 7:38 AM

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When older rundowns still be available when new ones release?

worthy pollen Mar 22, 2020, 7:42 AM

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older rundowns will be deleted when new ones release but there will be a reigster of the times completed

full sundial Mar 22, 2020, 8:30 AM

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They will probably have a back up of the old rundowns saved, but rn they won't keep the rundowns in the game

dim lagoon Mar 22, 2020, 4:11 PM

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Hi guys,
what are the advantages of being an ambassador?

distant ice Mar 22, 2020, 4:11 PM

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a few dead channels and getting emails about news that everyone spams in the chat here anyway

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also orange nick

dim lagoon Mar 22, 2020, 4:12 PM

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ah okay thx

distant ice Mar 22, 2020, 4:41 PM

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is there any scaling at all based on player count? from videos i've seen vs me playing vs me and my friend playing, it seems like with fewer players we generally find fewer enemies

desert yoke Mar 22, 2020, 4:42 PM

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No!

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The difficulty does not scale with the amount of players

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or anything x3

minor fractal Mar 22, 2020, 4:43 PM

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@distant ice It's just RNG. Almost all rooms in the game can have significantly fewer enemies, while they can also be extraordinarily crowded.

craggy pier Mar 22, 2020, 4:45 PM

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Yeah, like how the starting room can have enemies or not

golden umbra Mar 22, 2020, 8:10 PM

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is there a way to determine where a horde will spawn?

worthy pollen Mar 22, 2020, 8:10 PM

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sound of screams

minor fractal Mar 22, 2020, 8:10 PM

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Yes.

sage pecan Mar 22, 2020, 8:10 PM

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if theres a security door open, theres a chance enemies can come from there

minor fractal Mar 22, 2020, 8:10 PM

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The alarm mechanics are pretty straightforward

sage pecan Mar 22, 2020, 8:10 PM

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but otherwise just listen for the yellingn noise

minor fractal Mar 22, 2020, 8:11 PM

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As long as you're all in the room where the alarm sounds, you can base it off of how far away rooms are.

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The room you're standing in is 0. The shortest path to adjacent rooms makes them 1, and so on.

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waves always spawn in 2, unless 2 is unavailable, in which case they appear in the play spawn.

golden umbra Mar 22, 2020, 8:11 PM

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we are in b2 and about to do alarm door for zone 23 and at the end of the room is a hole in the wall which leads to a long room and to the right of the hole is a closed door so will they spawn in the hallway room or the room behind a door to the right?

pliant herald Mar 22, 2020, 8:12 PM

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They can spawn down the stairs or in the room to the right of the hole

minor fractal Mar 22, 2020, 8:12 PM

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@golden umbra They can spawn in 18C (through the door) and in 17B (across the long room through the hole)

golden umbra Mar 22, 2020, 8:12 PM

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okay so its a coinflip

minor fractal Mar 22, 2020, 8:12 PM

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yup

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Only those two zones ,though, as long as you're in 18B

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Something you can try, delay the team scan

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Wait to hear the roar while one guy stands in 18A

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then run to do it.

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they might only be able to spawn in 17A

distant ice Mar 22, 2020, 8:13 PM

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is it worth the trade-off though

golden umbra Mar 22, 2020, 8:13 PM

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ohhhhhhhhhhhh thats smart af

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ty

minor fractal Mar 22, 2020, 8:13 PM

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Np

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The rooms are really long, so I'd say yes.

distant ice Mar 22, 2020, 8:14 PM

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actually i'd like to know something about that

minor fractal Mar 22, 2020, 8:14 PM

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I haven't done much testing though, it's possible the waves spawn based on a random prisoner.

distant ice Mar 22, 2020, 8:14 PM

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would this delay the spawn of the next wave

minor fractal Mar 22, 2020, 8:14 PM

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?

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Wave spawns are dependent on how many of the wave enemies die.

sage pecan Mar 22, 2020, 8:15 PM

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i dont like abusing the game's spawn limit tho

distant ice Mar 22, 2020, 8:15 PM

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but one wave isn't enough to hit the limit though is it?

minor fractal Mar 22, 2020, 8:15 PM

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I abuse it to the extent I think is fair.

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So I don't run in big circles or make them all headless, usually

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Storm, the next wave isn't on a timer

sage pecan Mar 22, 2020, 8:16 PM

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"abuse it to the extent i think its fair" -raylot72 on the topic of ethics, 2020

minor fractal Mar 22, 2020, 8:16 PM

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It spawns when there's 5-10 enemies left, not sure the exact amount

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But what if I'm a noncog?

distant ice Mar 22, 2020, 8:16 PM

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what about C1 then

sage pecan Mar 22, 2020, 8:16 PM

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m8 im just laffing rn

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ive never herad anyone put it that way

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but ic ur point

minor fractal Mar 22, 2020, 8:17 PM

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So see, as an error theorist

distant ice Mar 22, 2020, 8:17 PM

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it seems like at first more than one wave spawned even though we tried not to kill anything

sage pecan Mar 22, 2020, 8:17 PM

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i think u can abuse the spawn limit on c1 as well

distant ice Mar 22, 2020, 8:17 PM

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and afterwards, we kill one and one spawns

minor fractal Mar 22, 2020, 8:17 PM

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C1 is an exception because it spawns a set number of waves per event.

distant ice Mar 22, 2020, 8:17 PM

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not a whole wave

minor fractal Mar 22, 2020, 8:17 PM

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It's not an alarm, it's a reactor.

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It's hardcoded to summon a wave, wait X amount of time, summon another wave. Only limiter is the mob cap.

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Security door alarms don't work that way.

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They constantly summon waves based on how many die.

sage pecan Mar 22, 2020, 8:18 PM

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jeezus

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how mny hrs do u have ray

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i never bothered to figure that stuff out

distant ice Mar 22, 2020, 8:19 PM

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so the 200 iq tactic would be to c-foam everything

minor fractal Mar 22, 2020, 8:19 PM

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Nearly 400

distant ice Mar 22, 2020, 8:19 PM

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and NOT to place turrets so they would kill c-foamed ones

minor fractal Mar 22, 2020, 8:19 PM

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Yes and no.

sage pecan Mar 22, 2020, 8:19 PM

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yea is storm right

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wat

minor fractal Mar 22, 2020, 8:19 PM

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Less enemies means less door damage.

distant ice Mar 22, 2020, 8:19 PM

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life doesn't always give you doors

minor fractal Mar 22, 2020, 8:19 PM

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So, to some extent, it's nice to have a turret there.

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Something you can do, though, is use mines and no turrets on some doors w/ c-foam.

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Which does what you said and kills most of the enemies when they finally get through.

distant ice Mar 22, 2020, 8:20 PM

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in D1 we actually decided to c-foam security door (the only path) and place everything elsewhere

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i only left one mine before c-foam

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but i can't predict how many will get killed by mines

minor fractal Mar 22, 2020, 8:22 PM

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But to elaborate on the c-foam thing

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Yes, there are less enemies.

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But you're still expending resources.

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Killing them is just an alternative way of spending resources to holding them off.

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So it's up to your team's loadout and what you have on you.

distant ice Mar 22, 2020, 8:22 PM

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but if there's no cooldown on spawning waves

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imagine you somehow forced enemies to spawn in a specific place

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and put 4 turrets there

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you'd just end up with hundreds of kills instantly

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and out of shit

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it'd be nice if there was some benefit to killing them

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cuz now just leaving a dude to run around is too appealing

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(though that's pretty much why we managed to clear the whole rundown as 2 in the first place)

sage pecan Mar 22, 2020, 8:25 PM

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lelel

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sleeper train guy mustve been a marathon runner before the events of gtfo

distant ice Mar 22, 2020, 8:26 PM

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imagine the strain though

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i mean we take this fall damage cuz of the heavy equipment right

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sprinting around the place with that doesn't seem plausible

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actually how does that even work lmao

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sprinting around and you're fine, fall 2 meters and your leg's broken

sage pecan Mar 22, 2020, 8:27 PM

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wel

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i guess u could try some math

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and figure out the average and maximum force ur foot would need to sustain

distant ice Mar 22, 2020, 8:28 PM

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yay, my favourite...

sage pecan Mar 22, 2020, 8:28 PM

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during running

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and fall recovery

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i sure as hell

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dont wanna do that math

placid cobalt Mar 22, 2020, 8:29 PM

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imagine not being able to carry 100+ lbs of equipment and run at full speed

sage pecan Mar 22, 2020, 8:29 PM

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i dont have to imgine that

distant ice Mar 22, 2020, 8:29 PM

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just moonwalk instead

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seems to work for sleepers

sage pecan Mar 22, 2020, 8:29 PM

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i have already ahcieved that state

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storm pls

distant ice Mar 22, 2020, 8:30 PM

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i mean you could maybe accelerate

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but you'd stop at the nearest wall

sage pecan Mar 22, 2020, 8:30 PM

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lel

sturdy dew Mar 22, 2020, 8:53 PM

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Has anyone heard any voice lines when someone else is downed?

distant ice Mar 22, 2020, 8:57 PM

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You mean like "I'm down!" Lmao

sturdy dew Mar 22, 2020, 8:58 PM

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no for other people going down

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not the character youre playing as

distant ice Mar 22, 2020, 8:58 PM

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Oh like "he's down"

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I don't think there are any yet

sturdy dew Mar 22, 2020, 8:58 PM

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ah damn

distant ice Mar 22, 2020, 8:58 PM

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But as we know R2 adds new lines

placid cobalt Mar 22, 2020, 9:06 PM

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the wiki doesnt even fill all of their lines

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wheres bishops quit fuckin whinin

sturdy dew Mar 22, 2020, 9:07 PM

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give me a break its harder to get lines when you cant play them solo

craggy pier Mar 22, 2020, 9:10 PM

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Nigerian man must break legs for British man to say word

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Honestly you’d be better to try D1 for that voice line I’ve heard three times in that map alone

placid cobalt Mar 22, 2020, 9:20 PM

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actually i can do it to and bishop will still say it

craggy pier Mar 22, 2020, 9:23 PM

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Pretty sure he says it with all three but I can’t confirm

pseudo isle Mar 23, 2020, 1:02 AM

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Help! I can’t understand how to deactivate the alarm right at the beginning 😓

full sundial Mar 23, 2020, 1:03 AM

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Use the door that leads to the alarm door, you can close it and reinforce it with c-foam, or just put a sentry outside the door aiming at it so it shoots the enemies trying to break it down, or you could put a couple mines inside behind the door so when they break it down they all blow up

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and while that defense works, you stand in the security scans to deactivate the alarm

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there are other strats you could use too, but that one is the easiest and most common

unkempt ridge Mar 23, 2020, 1:05 AM

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Help! I can’t understand how to deactivate the alarm right at the beginning 😓
@pseudo isle you complete the bioscans

pseudo isle Mar 23, 2020, 1:06 AM

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Thanks!

karmic canyon Mar 23, 2020, 2:13 AM

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Is there going to be an option to use the machinegun as it currently exists in the next update? I saw the "upgrade" and they have completely ruined the gun

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No reason at all to run it

full sundial Mar 23, 2020, 2:25 AM

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I mean, the name Machine Gun didn't really fit the gun's play style, so I hope they add in a heavy assault rifle or a battle rifle that has similar stats to the current MG so when the new one gets added, that style of gun (high damage, medium ammo count, slow reload) can be introduced to the game again

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but as of rn, yeah, the current MG will be no more when the update comes from what I have seen

placid cobalt Mar 23, 2020, 2:27 AM

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semi-MG time

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still i have no idea what that's supposed to be or how it works

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its just a dmr at that point?

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but like weaker

sturdy dew Mar 23, 2020, 2:29 AM

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A heavy assault rifles job would be stopping power like the old mg

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Dmr is a precision weapon

full sundial Mar 23, 2020, 2:29 AM

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a semi-MG? That was announced?

placid cobalt Mar 23, 2020, 2:29 AM

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in a very old interview

full sundial Mar 23, 2020, 2:30 AM

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yeah, don't think that'll be a name that'll stick

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but I bet they would rename it to something like a battle rifle

placid cobalt Mar 23, 2020, 2:30 AM

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its the reason when i saw the second ludvig leak image of an digsite tier expedition, i immediately knew the gun he was holding was a machine pistol

full sundial Mar 23, 2020, 2:30 AM

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or something like that, heavy assault rifle

karmic canyon Mar 23, 2020, 2:41 AM

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I don't care if they just reskin it, or since they already reskinned the new mg, just keep the old one and call it a battle rifle or something, just keep it

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It fills a roll that no other weapon can, I love that it can deal damage at range and up close for those who can learn to use the spool up time

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Its better than the DMR in every way

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Which is why basically no one uses the DMR outside of fresh players

sturdy dew Mar 23, 2020, 2:44 AM

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Why are you comparing me to dmr?

karmic canyon Mar 23, 2020, 2:44 AM

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Both are high damage decent range weapons which fulfil a similar roll

sturdy dew Mar 23, 2020, 2:44 AM

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But one is primary one is special

karmic canyon Mar 23, 2020, 2:44 AM

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And?

sturdy dew Mar 23, 2020, 2:45 AM

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They shouldn’t be compared then

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It isn’t a choice of one or the other like it would be with AR and SMG

karmic canyon Mar 23, 2020, 2:46 AM

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No, its saying that MG is a better DMR, there is no practical reason why weapons are split into primary and special

sturdy dew Mar 23, 2020, 2:46 AM

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MG and DMR are completely different

karmic canyon Mar 23, 2020, 2:47 AM

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Not in use they aren't

sturdy dew Mar 23, 2020, 2:47 AM

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?

karmic canyon Mar 23, 2020, 2:47 AM

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!

sturdy dew Mar 23, 2020, 2:47 AM

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A machine gun and a designated marksman rifle are for completely different situations

karmic canyon Mar 23, 2020, 2:48 AM

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Yeah, in theory, but not in use

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Which is why I said rename the current MG to battle rifle

sturdy dew Mar 23, 2020, 2:48 AM

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How are you using the dmr?

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How are you using the Mg?

karmic canyon Mar 23, 2020, 2:49 AM

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DMR is a semi auto marksman's rifle, used at medium ranges with high damage, but not sniper damage or range

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MG is a full auto high damage weapon best used at medium range but can be used in close range with practice

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Unless you main the MG I don't really care what you think about it, just to be clear

sturdy dew Mar 23, 2020, 2:50 AM

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Lol okay dude

karmic canyon Mar 23, 2020, 2:50 AM

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I don't care what you define an MG to be

sturdy dew Mar 23, 2020, 2:50 AM

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Clearly we are both on two different wavelengths

karmic canyon Mar 23, 2020, 2:51 AM

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I don't care if it's name changes, it is a fun gun to use in the game, and it is loved by many in it's current state

sturdy dew Mar 23, 2020, 2:51 AM

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Don’t get annoyed at me I’m not the one changing it

karmic canyon Mar 23, 2020, 2:51 AM

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And furthermore, the primary and special slots make no sense, just give us two weapon slots to bring what we want

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How does it make sense that a sniper rifle and a revolver fill the same slot?

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Yet not the handgun?

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Just let us put any two weapons in those slots, if someone wants to be a cowboy with two revolvers why not let them? Sounds like a fun way to play

knotty mantle Mar 23, 2020, 4:49 AM

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You do realize game balance is a thing right?

wise thicket Mar 23, 2020, 4:50 AM

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mains are for the sleepers and and other new small enemies. specials are for deadly threats

placid cobalt Mar 23, 2020, 5:41 AM

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the whole reason weapons are categorized as special is because they have stats that are more damage effective over ammunition usage

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primary weapons have stats that are less damage effective over ammunition usage

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thats why thos are two split gun slots

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primary weapons also have more ammunition

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the reason why the sniper rifle is in the same category as the revolver is that the sniper rifle retains a large amount of damage over any range

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and for this it has very few shots due to its range and damage

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the revolver is in the same category because its a weapon that can one-tap normal enemies, and shadows, meanwhile its fire rate can be better used against chargers or big guys

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however it doesn't do as much damage as the sniper it makes up for this with far more ammo

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and unlike primary weapons, all current special weapons have the capability to kill a scout completely from stealth, although some of the special weapons shouldn't be put to that use based on how difficult it is to kill a scout with them.

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yes the mg is getting changed, no it may not be able to kill a scout from stealth

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but its a special weapon regardless, therefore the new mg will be more dps effective over ammunition usage, and if that holds true than just like all other special weapons, it should be able to be used to quickly dispatch one big striker

ancient plaza Mar 23, 2020, 5:55 AM

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Is there any specific reason as to why the current rundown is being thrown out on the 31st? My friends and I just got the game the other day, and after all our work we've only got one level done, and we're really not sure if we're going to be able to get the rest before the 31st, which is really disappointing.

placid cobalt Mar 23, 2020, 5:56 AM

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because its been around for 6 months?

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and ppl want new content?

ancient plaza Mar 23, 2020, 5:56 AM

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Sure, but couldn't they just... have a level selector? Like any other game would do? The game is only 3GB, so size clearly isn't an issue here.

placid cobalt Mar 23, 2020, 5:57 AM

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its because the way the devs want the rundown to work

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they have a great explanatory video

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they want it so they release a build

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and players can get through the levels

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levels like A1 will usually be 4-man tutorials for new comers

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meanwhile levels like the future E1 will be an extremely difficult and challenging expedition to go through

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yet satisfying, hopefully

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they want it so they can scrap old rundowns and replace it with a new one after a while

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they want to get rid of old ones so the community will stay focused on the same challenges

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this is incredibly important

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since its too difficult having people run out for different SETS of maps

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and because the devs want to add a new game mechanic

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warden community restriction

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itll lock certain expeditions in each rundown

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the expedition will unlock once the community completes a certain amount of expeditions as a cohort

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this is to allow people to help each other more with certain levels

ancient plaza Mar 23, 2020, 6:02 AM

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Wait, so some levels will be locked behind community interaction?

placid cobalt Mar 23, 2020, 6:02 AM

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and the only way the restriction will work is if everyone is on the same rundown

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yes

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because if everyone is on their own rundown

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the lock will never be lifted

ancient plaza Mar 23, 2020, 6:02 AM

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I don't want to be a downer but most games that do that don't necessarily turn out so well

placid cobalt Mar 23, 2020, 6:03 AM

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it certainly will help with this games matchmaking

ancient plaza Mar 23, 2020, 6:03 AM

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Like even in Deep Rock Galactic the Unions, despite being very nice for everyone involved, hardly reach their quota

placid cobalt Mar 23, 2020, 6:04 AM

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well tons of people want to play R2 to its completion

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and its not like those quotas that are timed

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it will last till the end of the rundown

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until everyone reaches a certain point

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so people will pool up and the community will help each other

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in the devs eyes at leat

shadow mica Mar 23, 2020, 6:06 AM

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As long as they don't make it impossible it should be fine

placid cobalt Mar 23, 2020, 6:09 AM

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and the community will be ready with all of these players straight from the beginning of R2

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and not being rushed with a week left from large quantities of new players who bought the game close to a rundowns end

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correction: until a set majority percentage (i.e 75%) get to a certain point of completion.

hasty mauve Mar 23, 2020, 8:17 AM

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Yeah I mean, the community lock is more an incentive - not an impossible goal so to speak

placid cobalt Mar 23, 2020, 8:21 AM

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^

celest depot Mar 23, 2020, 11:40 AM

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Honestly helpng newbs is sometimes more fun for me than some 4 mans

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For me at least since my friends r being poor n haven’t bought it

distant ice Mar 23, 2020, 12:30 PM

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ikr

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or "i just don't like it", no reason

distant ice Mar 23, 2020, 1:27 PM

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does the map numbering reset for R2?

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i.e. will A levels start with A1 or A2 and so on

thorny current Mar 23, 2020, 1:31 PM

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yeah

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A1 then B1 - B4

distant ice Mar 23, 2020, 1:32 PM

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damn

steep night Mar 23, 2020, 3:43 PM

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is there any specific release day for GTFO on PS4, as of now i’m aware its only on PC but in the near future could we see a console GTFO?

lilac fulcrum Mar 23, 2020, 3:46 PM

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@steep night the devs are focusing on the PC release. They are aware people want it for console, but they want to get through PC release before looking at other platforms

steep night Mar 23, 2020, 3:46 PM

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makes sense, still hoping one day we’ll get our release, thank you!

distant ice Mar 23, 2020, 3:55 PM

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console edition would be for masochists

steep night Mar 23, 2020, 4:01 PM

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as a console player i completely disagree to that

sturdy dew Mar 23, 2020, 4:50 PM

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the only problems for console would be the aiming and framerate but you can say that for any game

distant ice Mar 23, 2020, 4:52 PM

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in this game in particular it's hard to aim tho

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the sleepers' movement is all over the place

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and you gotta be able to turn 180 fast

sturdy dew Mar 23, 2020, 4:53 PM

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not any different to the spastic movement of some PvP fps

distant ice Mar 23, 2020, 4:53 PM

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isn't it

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for the most part the models feel hard and heads stay in the same place moving forward or follow a static pattern

sturdy dew Mar 23, 2020, 4:53 PM

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yeah but when i played at least everyone would jump around like hell

distant ice Mar 23, 2020, 4:54 PM

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still a very predictable pattern

sturdy dew Mar 23, 2020, 4:54 PM

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but i mean there could be some autoaim to help

distant ice Mar 23, 2020, 4:54 PM

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which ruins the whole point of fps

sturdy dew Mar 23, 2020, 4:54 PM

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i guess im just bad at predicting then

distant ice Mar 23, 2020, 4:55 PM

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i mean i'm thinking csgo and tf2 rn

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i don't play cod, battlefield and such so don't know there

sturdy dew Mar 23, 2020, 4:55 PM

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yeah those are more the games im talking about

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the less "realistic" ones

distant ice Mar 23, 2020, 4:56 PM

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well if you watch any vid about aiming tips there's almost always prediction there

craggy pier Mar 23, 2020, 5:06 PM

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Will the infection rate be important in the next rundown?

lilac fulcrum Mar 23, 2020, 5:11 PM

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DrifterHmm

fading tangle Mar 23, 2020, 6:33 PM

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😫

minor fractal Mar 23, 2020, 7:28 PM

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Optimal strategy for D1?

The loadout I prefer to run:
Biotracker
Shotgun sentry
Shotgun sentry
Mine deployer

The route I prefer to run:

69 alarm, 1 sentry 1 defender
70 alarm, 0 sentries 2 defenders
71 alarm, 2 sentries 0 defenders (upped to 1 or 2 later if necessary)
73 for relatively easy supplies (optional)
77 and 78 for tool refills and health
Reactor sequence after both turrets are brought up to 60% and there are at least 6 mines in 68B and 16 mines in 71.

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The strat is a lot tighter on resources, and requires you have some people skilled at GTFO's gunplay. As long as you wait to use almost everything in 69, and don't aggro any scouts or most rooms, you should be fine. 2-3 uses of ammo is enough to ensure the two defenders are armed for 70's alarm, and you can save pretty much all of the medipack in most scenarios.

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The other 4-5 uses of ammo and the last of the medipack can be used to arm people for any failed stealth in 70 and whatever gets past turrets during 71's alarm.

eternal scarab Mar 23, 2020, 9:27 PM

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Hello i am currently playing with one sometimes two friends. Does GTFO scale the amount of Enemies? Like more players more enemies?

atomic quarry Mar 23, 2020, 9:28 PM

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No, it doesn't.

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The game was made for the intention of 4 players, but it is possible to complete levels with as little as two people.

eternal scarab Mar 23, 2020, 9:29 PM

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ok thanks. yeah we got to B2 with 2 people.

atomic quarry Mar 23, 2020, 9:32 PM

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Oof. That level is going to be really difficult.

eternal scarab Mar 23, 2020, 9:36 PM

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ye it sucks but we get further every try

distant ice Mar 23, 2020, 9:57 PM

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Man everyone talks how b2 is hard, now I feel like me and my friend lucked out clearing it 1st try

atomic quarry Mar 23, 2020, 10:00 PM

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It's just a matter of not alerting any enemies for the sake of conserving resources.

placid cobalt Mar 23, 2020, 10:01 PM

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^

full sundial Mar 23, 2020, 10:09 PM

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Yeah, most people lose a lot of health and ammo due to waking a room of 10+ shooters

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Most don't bring the DMR, so they spend a lot of ammo trying to kill them, or a lot of health trying to hammer, or both

stuck shard Mar 23, 2020, 10:11 PM

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Just started playing, how do you one shot sleeping enemies with melee weapons

full sundial Mar 23, 2020, 10:14 PM

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The normal shooters and strikers you can one shot with a hit to the back of the head no charge, or hold down left click to charge and a hit to their back will kill them. The shooters will survive any hit to their front chest/legs tho. The strikers will always die to a fully charged melee hit. The most general kill method is fully charge the head, but as you get more used to the stealth, you can get quicker and realize only a half charge can one shot them if you land a headshot.

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Best place to start is fully charge head hits though.

stuck shard Mar 23, 2020, 10:14 PM

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ah ok ty

full sundial Mar 23, 2020, 10:15 PM

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Use that info as you wish, but I recommend you start by playing it safe and full charging at the head. If an enemy is sleeping standing up, it is even safer to hit them in the back of the head so if you miss the head, it will hit their back and they will still die.

steel ibex Mar 24, 2020, 12:35 AM

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hey all, so i have been following GTFO for a while and have been really on the fence about buying it but think i am ready to make the plunge. However, is it best to wait for a sale or just go ahead and get it full price? And is there anything in game that may not be clear or explained that I need to know? (I know about no matchmaking, or voip, etc.)

ancient plaza Mar 24, 2020, 12:38 AM

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So what's the real difference between the Shotgun and Combat Shotgun? Does regular Shotgun do a bit more damage?

kind trail Mar 24, 2020, 12:38 AM

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Combat shoots faster and the regular one is more accurate/more damage

ancient plaza Mar 24, 2020, 12:38 AM

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That makes sense, thanks!

kind trail Mar 24, 2020, 12:39 AM

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and @steel ibex I'd honestly get it as soon as you can, play the first one and the second on in a week

craggy pier Mar 24, 2020, 12:41 AM

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Be aware paradox if do indeed get it today you’ll only have around 7-8 days to complete the first rundown but know that you aren’t missing out on much

steel ibex Mar 24, 2020, 12:41 AM

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So rundowns are basically, for the lack of a better term, 'seasons'?

craggy pier Mar 24, 2020, 12:42 AM

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Yeah pretty much

steel ibex Mar 24, 2020, 12:42 AM

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i did not know that

craggy pier Mar 24, 2020, 12:43 AM

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It’s only been recent that they’ve made a timer for the next rundown we knew it was coming but not exactly when

steel ibex Mar 24, 2020, 12:44 AM

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ah okay. in that case, i think i'll wait for the next rundown, that way i can go in kinda blind

craggy pier Mar 24, 2020, 12:44 AM

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31st of March is when it comes out

steel ibex Mar 24, 2020, 12:45 AM

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Got it, appreciate the info, kyle

craggy pier Mar 24, 2020, 12:45 AM

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Nice RUINER PFP btw

steel ibex Mar 24, 2020, 12:45 AM

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aye someone recognized it, appreciate it dude

kind trail Mar 24, 2020, 12:49 AM

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basically seasons

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except shorter and are always wiped

full sundial Mar 24, 2020, 1:34 AM

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also @steel ibex , I highly recommend you get a team of friends or people you meet online to play through all the expeditions together. imo, it would be a lot more fun to figure out the game and what to do on your own as a team for more of a challenge instead of having someone who has beat it before guide you guys through, but some people like having a guide, so just my advice.

steel ibex Mar 24, 2020, 1:47 AM

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@full sundial yeah my plan was to get me and two of my friends to just go in blind

full sundial Mar 24, 2020, 1:48 AM

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try to get a third friend if you can, as this game does not scale the difficulty to your team size, it is built and balanced for four players

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it is still possible to play with less, just more difficult than intended

steel ibex Mar 24, 2020, 1:49 AM

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@full sundial yeah i know its intended for 4 players, that's why we wanted it to just be us 3, we enjoy a good challenge

full sundial Mar 24, 2020, 1:50 AM

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the game is already a good challenge, so if you struggle with three, I recommend you get a fourth, but yeah, it is definitely possible with three

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at least this rundown is, idk what the next rundown has in store

hollow mortar Mar 24, 2020, 4:52 AM

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Will there be achievements for this game in the future?

full sundial Mar 24, 2020, 6:06 AM

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Yes, it is on the roadmap

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?t roadmap

eager jacinthBOT Mar 24, 2020, 6:06 AM

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You can view the roadmap here: https://gtfothegame.com/roadmap/

distant ice Mar 24, 2020, 9:19 AM

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@steel ibex there's actually a sale going on right now, check isthereanydeal site

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And no it doesn't list resellers

distant ice Mar 24, 2020, 11:35 AM

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how exactly do strikers' tongues work?

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for the tongue, turning 90 degrees twice when you dodge just as it attacks is no problem, but it seems that being to the side of the striker is relatively safe?

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meanwhile behind it you get hit again

sturdy dew Mar 24, 2020, 12:01 PM

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I think it depends on a few things

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Timing and placement have to be somewhat specific to dodge

distant ice Mar 24, 2020, 12:05 PM

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i just tried running past sleepers several times

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running to the side of them seems to be much safer than running straight through them

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when you're running straight through them, they only seem to miss if they were rushing towards you

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also running sleepers' tongues seem to break more and crawlers' are more straightforward/fluid

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crawlers' can be sidestepped

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but idk if it actually depends on how they move or if it was a coincidence

sturdy dew Mar 24, 2020, 12:11 PM

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Honestly I don’t really understand completely how the tongues work

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They’re quite strange

distant ice Mar 24, 2020, 12:11 PM

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anytime i try to learn them i just end up assuming it's EA and bugged all over

sturdy dew Mar 24, 2020, 12:12 PM

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It’s kind of like a really fast and accurate projectile

distant ice Mar 24, 2020, 12:13 PM

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but some of them are more like that trailer thing

sturdy dew Mar 24, 2020, 12:13 PM

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I wonder if they always aim for the same spot

distant ice Mar 24, 2020, 12:13 PM

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others are like the windows polygon screen lmao

sturdy dew Mar 24, 2020, 12:13 PM

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Hmmm

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They did look weird in the trailer

distant ice Mar 24, 2020, 12:14 PM

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and wdym aim for the same spot

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i think they're sometimes like the homing missiles from shooters

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when i tried to dodge the broken tongue, it did a U turn with two 90 degree turns

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the fluid tongue just got dodged, that's all

sturdy dew Mar 24, 2020, 12:17 PM

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I meant do they always aim for chest

distant ice Mar 24, 2020, 12:17 PM

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oh

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maybe wherever pivot point is

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i don't see any reason to make it a variable instead of just a constant

sturdy dew Mar 24, 2020, 12:19 PM

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Yeah but it could depend on where you are and distance

distant ice Mar 24, 2020, 12:19 PM

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big doubt

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there'd have to be a significant enough impact to spend time coding it

sturdy dew Mar 24, 2020, 12:20 PM

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Yeah like I said I really don’t know

fading tangle Mar 25, 2020, 1:42 AM

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if we're getting a loot system does that mean a weight system would be in the works?

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I'm looking forward to inventory tetris if it's fleshed out

vital sierra Mar 25, 2020, 2:52 AM

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slow af teammate got kill

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lose all loot

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say game suck and uninstall

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😄

regal pagoda Mar 25, 2020, 2:55 AM

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What game are you talking about?

silent swift Mar 25, 2020, 3:12 AM

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What's a good strategy for C1? Me and my group have been unable to finish it but we get very very close.

full sundial Mar 25, 2020, 3:12 AM

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I am trying to solo D1 before R2 comes out, but I have failed on the warden door alarm twice now, and during the second time I tried, I opened Z73 and Z75, then c-foamed the doors going from Z73A-B and Z75A-B, which obviously did nothing because I was in Z70, so they spawned in A instead of B. Does anyone know if I were to manage to get to Z69 before the wave spawned in, if the wave would spawn in the B sections of those zones/Z68?

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Not asking for advice for soloing D1, just asking if anyone knows how that spawn would work for the alarm door

minor fractal Mar 25, 2020, 4:10 AM

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@full sundial It should, since waves prefer player positions over alarm positions. Don't think it's possible, though.

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You can try using 77 for loot instead, since it shouldn't be able to spawn enemies.

full sundial Mar 25, 2020, 4:11 AM

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True, also, while I was looking around in 74B, there was a tool refill I couldn't find for the life of me

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it showed up on terminal and I heard the ping, but couldn't find it after like 5 minutes of looking for it

minor fractal Mar 25, 2020, 4:11 AM

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Did you check both pits?

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Also, seen any scouts in 74 yet?

full sundial Mar 25, 2020, 4:12 AM

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I only found one pit

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and no, no scout

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only went in 74 twice

minor fractal Mar 25, 2020, 4:12 AM

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Fair

full sundial Mar 25, 2020, 4:12 AM

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in 74B, there was only one pit

minor fractal Mar 25, 2020, 4:12 AM

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Which one we talking?

full sundial Mar 25, 2020, 4:13 AM

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the one closest to the door to 74A

minor fractal Mar 25, 2020, 4:13 AM

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What about the one on the north side with ramps down?

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Those are the only two hard-to-find locker locations I know.

full sundial Mar 25, 2020, 4:14 AM

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74C?

minor fractal Mar 25, 2020, 4:14 AM

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No, 74B

full sundial Mar 25, 2020, 4:15 AM

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there wasn't another pit with ramps down, just the one pit with a ladder

minor fractal Mar 25, 2020, 4:15 AM

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Do you know the ramps leading to a pit in 68C and 22A?

full sundial Mar 25, 2020, 4:15 AM

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similar layout to the starting zone, 68C

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oh, yeah, that small put

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pit*

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checked there

minor fractal Mar 25, 2020, 4:15 AM

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Aight. I'm out of ideas, then.

full sundial Mar 25, 2020, 4:15 AM

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didn't consider that a pit, but yeah, it is

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I deleted the video, but it was just confusing af

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never been that lost trying to find a storage container

subtle vortex Mar 25, 2020, 5:42 AM

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does anyone know of any gtfo concept art from the devs or smthn like that?

full sundial Mar 25, 2020, 5:44 AM

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There is a bit of concept art showcased in the YouTube video of their only released sound track, if you search for GTFO sound track you will probably find it. Just make sure you get the video from 10 Chambers Collective channel, not some other fan made video.

subtle vortex Mar 25, 2020, 5:56 AM

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its a bit yea, I would love it if the devs released a bunch of their concept art from the start of making the game

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just to see how their original ideas formed and changed

full sundial Mar 25, 2020, 7:12 AM

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I think I saw some more concept art in one of their videos where they talked about GTFO on they channel

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Can't remember which video, but you should check them all put, some interesting stuff, not a lot tho

ancient plaza Mar 25, 2020, 9:10 AM

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Do red glowsticks do anything in particular or are they just the same as regular glowsticks?

tribal ether Mar 25, 2020, 9:11 AM

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Ye, same

ancient plaza Mar 25, 2020, 9:13 AM

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Shame, they're much more rare so I figured they'd do something neat

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Thanks

full sundial Mar 25, 2020, 9:15 AM

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Some think they light up better in the fog than green ones, but that is probably just opinion/perspective, not actually true

ancient plaza Mar 25, 2020, 9:18 AM

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Also, I've had pretty inconsistent results when testing this, but if enemies are "sleeping" (their red glow is off), you can kill enemies near them, right?

full sundial Mar 25, 2020, 9:20 AM

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If there are two enemies within about 3 meters of each other, they will immediately wake up if you kill the other

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But other than that, yes

ancient plaza Mar 25, 2020, 9:21 AM

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Makes sense why it seemed inconsistent then, thanks

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It's pretty hard to judge exactly what is and isn't close enough to be alerted

south birch Mar 25, 2020, 9:22 AM

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Sometimes it feels like the way the others are facing can influence it as wel, but can’t say I’ve ever tested that

full sundial Mar 25, 2020, 9:22 AM

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Yeah, on the biotracker, if the enemy white dots are touching, they will wake up if one is killed, if not, should be safe to kill when they sleep

desert yoke Mar 25, 2020, 9:22 AM

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You always can use right click to "Stun" the enemies, it helps with multiple enemies

full sundial Mar 25, 2020, 9:23 AM

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Also, once you get the hang of it, an uncharged hit to the back of the head of a sleeper will kill them, so you can kill a pair of two enemies that are close together that way

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Hit the one that wakes up in the back of the head

ancient plaza Mar 25, 2020, 9:23 AM

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I've tried that Lavars, but it seems also pretty inconsistent, there doesn't seem to be any real feedback to when an enemy is stunned like there is in L4D

full sundial Mar 25, 2020, 9:23 AM

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The enemies also can recover quite quickly from a stun to scream sometimes

desert yoke Mar 25, 2020, 9:23 AM

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@ancient plaza If they are shoved back, they are effectively "Stunned" for a short amount of time.

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it's more of a delay of the scream than a stun... xD

ancient plaza Mar 25, 2020, 9:24 AM

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Another thing: If I foam an enemy and kill its buddy, it won't care once it's unfoamed, right?

full sundial Mar 25, 2020, 9:24 AM

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Yeah, if you're with a teammate, you can stun the enemy while they charge up an attack

ancient plaza Mar 25, 2020, 9:24 AM

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Because I know foam is stealth

full sundial Mar 25, 2020, 9:25 AM

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That can work if you get 2-3 successful bashes to stun them for enough time

desert yoke Mar 25, 2020, 9:25 AM

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Actually never tested this, and my last session was some time ago :D

full sundial Mar 25, 2020, 9:25 AM

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If an enemy gets foamed, they will still react to light and sound, but they won't wake up till unfrozen

desert yoke Mar 25, 2020, 9:25 AM

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But everything is subject to change with the next patch ^^

full sundial Mar 25, 2020, 9:26 AM

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But if you freeze one and keep it frozen, the it unfreezes on it's own, and you made no noise to wake it up, it will not aggro

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Ray tested it and told me about it, he did test it on a scout tho

desert yoke Mar 25, 2020, 9:26 AM

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But i think it counts as interaction... not sure though

full sundial Mar 25, 2020, 9:26 AM

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Probably works the same for sleepers

desert yoke Mar 25, 2020, 9:26 AM

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Scouts are special

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They are not woken up by light

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for example.

full sundial Mar 25, 2020, 9:27 AM

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Yeah, but their interaction with c foam is the same

desert yoke Mar 25, 2020, 9:27 AM

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But would be cool to test.

ancient plaza Mar 25, 2020, 9:27 AM

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I've foamed a couple sleepers for stealthing before, they never care once they get unfoamed

full sundial Mar 25, 2020, 9:27 AM

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I would assume

desert yoke Mar 25, 2020, 9:27 AM

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Ah ok.

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You should video-tape this (or just record xD )

full sundial Mar 25, 2020, 9:27 AM

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Yeah, just if there is enough noise, damage, or light to wake them up without the foam, they will wake up after unfoamed

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If they behave the same as a scout

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Which they most likely do

desert yoke Mar 25, 2020, 9:28 AM

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I mean...

full sundial Mar 25, 2020, 9:28 AM

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In regards to c foam

desert yoke Mar 25, 2020, 9:28 AM

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We have to test everything with the new build anyways.

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Because they want to fix the silent mines too.

full sundial Mar 25, 2020, 9:28 AM

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Yeah, but rn, that's how it works on scouts, and probably does on sleepers too

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Havent tested on sleepers tho

desert yoke Mar 25, 2020, 9:29 AM

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I can't test it unfortunate. But an experiment would be cool

full sundial Mar 25, 2020, 9:29 AM

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So keep that in mind, just assuming

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Here, I can test it rn, won't record it tho, watching YT

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So just gonna test it for myself

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Then gonna sleep

desert yoke Mar 25, 2020, 9:31 AM

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You don't need to test it NOW ^^. Only if you want

full sundial Mar 25, 2020, 9:31 AM

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Yeah, I want to :)

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Not hard to test, just gotta find two sleepers holding hands

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Actually, maybe they weren't close enough together, but the c foamed guy didn't react to the c foam or his buddy dying

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Gonna test again

ancient plaza Mar 25, 2020, 9:48 AM

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I know for certain that they don't react to being foamed and then unfoaming via natural timer countdown

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What I'm not certain of is whether or not they'll notice if I kill their buddy while they're foamed

full sundial Mar 25, 2020, 9:52 AM

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Yeah, testing it in D1 rn, wasn't getting many pairs on B1

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Just confirmed, c foamed enemies don't react to their buddy dyinf

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Even if they're close enough to insta wake up

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Still, it is fairly easy to take two down solo, or just get a friend to help out

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Instead of wasting the c foam

distant ice Mar 25, 2020, 9:57 AM

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maybe the scout doesn't actually react then either

full sundial Mar 25, 2020, 9:57 AM

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Ray said it did

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To an enemy dying nearby

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Or actually, he didn't

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He just said it wouldn't care about being c foamed I think

distant ice Mar 25, 2020, 9:58 AM

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i think it was something about bumping into a c foamed enemy

full sundial Mar 25, 2020, 9:58 AM

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Don't remember exactly, I will @ him and he can say for himself

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@minor fractal check out the convo we just had

distant ice Mar 25, 2020, 9:58 AM

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is he EU

full sundial Mar 25, 2020, 9:59 AM

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Idk, but he isn't online rn

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@desert yoke changed my mind and recorded it, posted it in #gtfo-media

desert yoke Mar 25, 2020, 10:05 AM

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+1

full sundial Mar 25, 2020, 10:05 AM

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hopefully you aren't too put off by the fov

oblique dust Mar 25, 2020, 10:08 AM

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I absolutely am. I'm offended by your fov. x,D

full sundial Mar 25, 2020, 10:08 AM

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lmfao, it gives me a small advantage 🙂

desert yoke Mar 25, 2020, 10:10 AM

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I mean... As long as it is YOUR preferred thing, just keep going ^^

full sundial Mar 25, 2020, 10:10 AM

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lol, if you want more 120 FOV action, check out my YouTube channel for a B2 and C2 solo run full of only 120 FOV

desert yoke Mar 25, 2020, 10:12 AM

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I ran Half Life 2 with 360 FOV... it's Hilarious and unplayable.... but fun xD

full sundial Mar 25, 2020, 10:12 AM

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lmfao, I remember how insane you can go with the camera in gmod, zoom super far in and out, not the exact same as FOV I don't think, but very similar

oblique dust Mar 25, 2020, 10:13 AM

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I saw some youtuber in minecraft change their FOV to infinite. It was mind numbing.

distant ice Mar 25, 2020, 10:43 AM

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lower FOV helps me click heads

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froze a scout, shot the sleeper next to it (was the last one in the room), scout unfroze and didn't care

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froze again, ran around and straight through him, still nothing

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but when i froze and hit him in the head, he immediately screamed after unfreezing

craggy pier Mar 25, 2020, 10:46 AM

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Its good to note the scout is both blind and deaf hence the whole feelers thing

distant ice Mar 25, 2020, 10:47 AM

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nope

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he reacts instantly to sprinting

craggy pier Mar 25, 2020, 10:47 AM

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Well Blind and deaf to a certain degree

distant ice Mar 25, 2020, 10:47 AM

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and if you shine the light on him too much he'll sprout the feelers again right after they come back

craggy pier Mar 25, 2020, 10:48 AM

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He cant full aggro unless he is touched, hears a sleeper scream, gets hit or shot at and of course if his feelers touch you

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any other actions will just cause him to sprout out immediately afterwards

distant ice Mar 25, 2020, 10:49 AM

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!= blind/deaf

full sundial Mar 25, 2020, 10:50 AM

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Yeah, doesnt immediately aggro off light or movement, but reacts to it

craggy pier Mar 25, 2020, 10:50 AM

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I dunno it would make a bit of sense if it is blind and deaf to me at least

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I actually wanna test If it reacts to a gunshot by its self in a room

distant ice Mar 25, 2020, 10:52 AM

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think so

craggy pier Mar 25, 2020, 10:52 AM

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I'll test it tomorrow I need to get up for work

distant ice Mar 25, 2020, 10:53 AM

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i'm at it rn

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gimme a few mins

craggy pier Mar 25, 2020, 10:54 AM

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If ya gonna do it attempt B2 or B1 Or A1 they seem easiest for scouts

distant ice Mar 25, 2020, 10:54 AM

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i always go b2

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shit like this is why i want a practice chamber

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well i didn't actually kill everything but it did react

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stupid thing is it was like a .5 delay, but nothing had screamed yet

craggy pier Mar 25, 2020, 10:59 AM

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So the scout did scream?

distant ice Mar 25, 2020, 10:59 AM

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inconclusive

craggy pier Mar 25, 2020, 10:59 AM

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I'll give more on that tomorrow then

distant ice Mar 25, 2020, 10:59 AM

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nah imma actually kill everything now

craggy pier Mar 25, 2020, 11:00 AM

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Alrighty But I'm off now

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Hope it dont scream on ya

distant ice Mar 25, 2020, 11:10 AM

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yea he does

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empty room, shot nowhere near him, tentacles weren't out

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i.e. i was both far and didn't shoot at him

craggy pier Mar 25, 2020, 11:11 AM

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Welp shit I was waiting on my bed phone out and now i feel bumbed

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Thanks for testing it man

distant ice Mar 25, 2020, 11:12 AM

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honestly it's like they know

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this son of a bitch walked up to the security zone door taunting me

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easily could've killed him many times

magic jolt Mar 25, 2020, 1:11 PM

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oof, Im pretty much shit at the game, you guys are like pulling off this shit and i can't even kill a giant with 3 others

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how would you do that btw

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?

thorny current Mar 25, 2020, 1:14 PM

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Position behind the back. Go fully charged and hit them there.

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Hitting the back makes more dmg

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Also coordinate

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the attack

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2 on the back and 1 on the back of the head should be enough for a big striker. You need 4 for the shooter.

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Always make a swing afterwards to be sure its dead

distant ice Mar 25, 2020, 1:39 PM

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i'd probably actually suck too since i don't have any experience with teams

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solo stealth way easier

thorny current Mar 25, 2020, 1:41 PM

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I dont stealth big guys solo. I just kill them. Pump shotty for the win. Everything els gets soloed though.^^

distant ice Mar 25, 2020, 1:41 PM

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i meant in general

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i don't pick on big guys at all unless they're in the alarm room

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once everything else is dead it's just target practice if even that

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especially since ammo is plentiful

thorny current Mar 25, 2020, 1:44 PM

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Yeah, that is how I do it. Even going against 4 is easy. I kill those I deem dangerous the rest of them can sleep. The only map where ammo is a problem is B2. Luckily it doesnt have that many big shooters.

distant ice Mar 25, 2020, 1:45 PM

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and big shooters are pushovers

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i think ray said you can actually stealth solo melee them

thorny current Mar 25, 2020, 1:47 PM

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Yeah, he tested it. You always have to stagger them. Besides the shooters, I wouldnt do it against big strikers. I believe it is not worth the risk.

minor fractal Mar 25, 2020, 1:55 PM

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@full sundial @distant ice I had thought they react if adjacent, but if not I expect the scout doesn't either. I suspect it's only bumping and damage after all. I don't remember if I tested actions like shooting or allies screaming.

distant ice Mar 25, 2020, 1:57 PM

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bumping (running into them) didn't trigger

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i just went right through the scout

distant ice Mar 25, 2020, 2:39 PM

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what is the strategy for the stagger takedown

thorny current Mar 25, 2020, 2:45 PM

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You take one fully charged attack to stagger them, then another fully charged and hit a leg to stagger. Something like that. One fully charged after another

distant ice Mar 25, 2020, 2:46 PM

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isn't that too big a window

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normal enemies seem to recover in a second

thorny current Mar 25, 2020, 2:48 PM

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Seems like it works. Atleast what I heard from ray. Prolly enough before they alarm though. Most enemies attack first before screaming. Seems kinda wonky to try against strikers cause of there bitch slap.

minor fractal Mar 25, 2020, 4:15 PM

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The stealth melee against giants is inconsistent.

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Their animations are wonky, so it's hard to tell when they scream or not.

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But it seems like it might be RNG whether or not they'll scream by the time you stagger them.

distant ice Mar 25, 2020, 4:16 PM

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yeah that's my problem too

minor fractal Mar 25, 2020, 4:18 PM

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Big shooters in particular, I noticed that you can often stagger them for at least a few swings, but sometimes they just scream immediately after they recover, which doesn't give much of a chance to respond. There might be more advanced strategies you can try by going for a full charge on the body normally but a partial charge on a leg or something to get extra staggers faster when necessary.

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The waking affect seems to only apply after a certain point in the scream animation, which is why you can still interrupt screams by stagger with small enemies.

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Haven't done much to perfect the strategy, though.

weak void Mar 25, 2020, 9:50 PM

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Hey guys, do you know if there's any plans to implement a difficulty setting? I've found I'm.... not great at this game, but would love to play through more than just the first few rooms of A1 :p

lilac fulcrum Mar 25, 2020, 9:52 PM

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@weak void Are you playing solo or with a team? The game is intended to be difficult and played with a team of 4 people and where you struggle at first but get better over time.

weak void Mar 25, 2020, 9:55 PM

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Yeah, team of 3. We didn't get very far today, but will be trying again soon. I understand the intent, but we would definitely appreciate an option to make things a little bit easier

full sundial Mar 25, 2020, 9:57 PM

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as long as you try to play smart, you know, read the environment, use prior knowledge from your failure, and try to prevent that using what you have around you, your own skill at KB + M isn't as needed in this game as other difficult games

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this game is more of an interactive puzzle kinda, but obv, still a FPS

wise thicket Mar 25, 2020, 9:59 PM

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sounds like a quote from a master

unkempt ridge Mar 25, 2020, 10:37 PM

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Agree "I'm not good at this game" just means you don't know the strategies yet, it will become easier and easier the more you learn about your mistake, the enemies, and the mechanics

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Don't hesitate to ask questions here '^'

fading tangle Mar 25, 2020, 10:39 PM

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well some people could just be bad at shooting/aiming

unkempt ridge Mar 25, 2020, 10:39 PM

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I'm very bad at shooting and still

fading tangle Mar 25, 2020, 10:39 PM

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tool placement is 75% of what most of the levels revolve around

unkempt ridge Mar 25, 2020, 10:39 PM

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the game is 90% about mechanics and 10% about skill IMO

fading tangle Mar 25, 2020, 10:40 PM

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quick maths

oblique dust Mar 26, 2020, 12:03 AM

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50% mechanics 50% skill 50% style

sturdy dew Mar 26, 2020, 12:03 AM

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thefuckisthatshitupthere

thorny current Mar 26, 2020, 12:03 AM

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what style? xD I have so much style like a potato

oblique dust Mar 26, 2020, 12:04 AM

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Gotta work on your 360 noscopes with the pistol

sturdy dew Mar 26, 2020, 12:04 AM

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who needs style when you got swag

burnt breach Mar 26, 2020, 3:09 AM

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Anyone been having really weird issues in game lately? Enemies being aggro'd without any sleepers screaming, enemies getting aggro'd by movement that nobody made?

full sundial Mar 26, 2020, 3:14 AM

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Nope, been attempting D1 solo and things have been normal.

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Might be connection issues between you and the host, just the host, or if you're the host, on your end

magic jolt Mar 26, 2020, 5:26 AM

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i've been trying to do the turret through the door trick