Then ask them to not sneak
#gtfo-related-questions
minor fractal
45 is awkward, but not too difficult, even with bad circles.
tribal ether
I normally just ask if they a re confident in their sneaking skills
If they wake up the room it's normally their loss, has I'm just helping them
thick briar
when I did 45 I did it solo and that was a pain
tribal ether
So if they wanna go with me, it's up to them
minor fractal
Was it a full clear?
tribal ether
Only been in 45 once
thick briar
No I completely ignored the fog side of the map
tribal ether
Fog side, is good side
minor fractal
42 is the shittiest zone, though.
minor fractal
42A, always full of shit. Way too crowded to kill almost anything.
minor fractal
42B, door is constantly blocked by sleepers with bad spawns and you have to sneak in to deal with a scout.
thick briar
I had one run where I only needed 41, 42, 43, 44 and I was out
thick briar
usually you can just wait till the scout comes near the door then walk in and whack it, doesn't matter if you wake up the room as long as you get the scout killed
minor fractal
Yah, but there's no point in wacking then.
I usually ask my team to setup turrets, alert 42A by killing as many as possible, and then shotgunning the scout as he walks by the door.
thick briar
oh yeah you could snipe/shotgun it too
I don't take those weps so the gavel is the only oneshot I have
smg/mg aren't strong enough, even to the back of the head
revolver is tho
stuck vale
Thought revolver is a no
thick briar
revolver oneshots scouts in the back of the head if ur close enough
i have a clip of it in the media channel somewhere
minor fractal
MG can two-shot scout, but your aim needs to be on-point. Not a particularly realistic strategy.
thick briar
oh yeah there is a short window before the invuln
i haven't experimented with any non-oneshots on scouts
minor fractal
I got the MG kill once, but couldn't do it again. Always got a back shot the second bullet. It's hella hard to land. Using tentacle glitch, where you touch a tentacle after your first shot to reset the alert timer, you might be able to do it with three shots (one to the back of the head, the other two to the back).
sage pecan
were the models in the game (props, guns, characters) made w/ blender
gritty hinge
Hey, Devs/Mods/Admins, whomever are concerned:
Are we to have a time during the release of Rundown #002 that is spoiler-free?
I don't really want to be seeing stuff about "C/D/E" rundowns or new mechanics until I have to face them.
That, or do I just- avoid the channels? I enjoy being part of the community here c:
old mountain
There is a spoiler period of 3 weeks upon content drop as per rule 9
this not only accounts for GTFO content but all content, thus all spoilers should be properly spoilered using the discord feature.
novel compass
As someone just starting, are any of the weapons clearly superior, or is everything viable?
young pagoda
it depends on what you're looking for. assault rifle has low damage high ammo, while sniper has the opposite.
kind trail
Same with DMR
craggy pier
probably thje weakest of all the weapon
kind trail
it’s pretty weak rn too
novel compass
Is the pistol any good? Seems like it would be fun to run with a pistol/revolver combo
young pagoda
pistol or rifle is my go to
craggy pier
pistol is good if you can aim well
novel compass
Nice. Thanks, guys
full sundial
the best special weapon is the machine gun, one of the best weapons you could use, just gotta get used to that 0.3s charge up time and don't spray it like you would in most games with a machine gun, use it single or burst fire, landing headshots, drops shooters and strikers quick
also kills big strikers pretty fast too if you're accurate
sage pecan
i would hesitate to call any one thing "the best"
static marlin
can i ask for the map of the next rundown ?
unkempt ridge
can i ask for the map of the next rundown ?
@static marlin ||https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/682276849480761404/683356791660478677/JPEG_20200229_115553.jpg||
As someone just starting, are any of the weapons clearly superior, or is everything viable?
@novel compass weapons have their strength depending of the situations and your playstyle, everything viable and yes Pistol is good but good luck to aim OwO
vital sierra
pistol is not for aiming
hip fire works really well with pistol ( not for revolver )
full sundial
not when we're talking about the current Machine Gun @sage pecan , it is a great overall weapon. If you get good at using any weapon, the Machine Gun is the one that offers the best efficiency of ammo to damage and killing power with that.
old creek
anyone have an issue where the HSU objective is different on players screen ?
vital sierra
no?
lilac fulcrum
like for one person it says HSU_123 but someone else it says you need HSU_987 @old creek ?
old creek
yea yea
lilac fulcrum
known bug, but you should still be able to complete the objective
vital sierra
is that bug really happen Doc?
lilac fulcrum
yeah, can happen to keycards too
sage pecan
@full sundial its not a oneshot headshot tho is it
i remember testing it and the mg didnt oneshot a shooter even pointblank to the head
full sundial
It is at close/close medium range
sage pecan
while stealthing
sage pecan
ill test again but i dont think its a oneheadshot gun
full sundial
Idk about shooters, I use it to one shot strikers running at me and then hammer the shooters left alive
sage pecan
o
full sundial
Since they're ez to dodge in numbers of 5 or less
On B2 I like to bring DMR and MG since there is a lot of shooters, so I can't always run in and hammer them after killing strikers
But other than that most of the time there aren't a lot of shooters so I can hammer them after SMG and MGing all of them
serene lion
Sorry if this is asked somewhere else but my friends and I were curious since we played for the first time last night. Is the machine gun supposed to have lower ammo compared to the assault rifle?
And would a shotgun turret facing away from a door (towards us) be more effective than facing the door (since the turret isn’t 360 and rushing past it makes it useless?)
sturdy dew
If you’re placing a sentry outside of a door you should place it so it’s parallel with the door so it kills enemies while they’re breaking it down
Also you can find the ammo counts of the wiki if you need to know them, but off the top of my head the special weapons have less ammo than the primary ones
south birch
Turrets facing towards you are good if you make sure they aren’t facing directly at your position
This is because enemies take more damage from behind, but turrets can friendly fire
So usually pick between the door sentry as suggested, or facing towards you at a slight canted angle away from your preferred positioning
tribal ether
I prefer using the one pointed towards you, if there are no doors
pliant heron
@prisma flint @craggy pier @hasty mauve @marsh lance Would any of you be willing to make an official comment on your stance towards Nvidia's Geforce Now gaming platform? I know that GTFO is currently in the list of supported games. In fact, Geforce Now is how my friends and family have been able to afford to play GTFO and we would like to continue doing so. Currently there is an ongoing attack against the civil liberties and property rights of gamers being waged by Google, Bethesda, Epic, Ubisoft, Square Enix and others who wish to limit the customers right to choose what hardware they use to play the games that they already bought, paid for, and rightfully own. Claiming that cloud gaming violates their EULA agreements. 10 Chamber Collective has also come under fire lately and there are rumors that you might be considering removing GTFO from the platform. I wanted to reach out to you to bring this concern to your attention if you were not already aware and hopefully either disprove the rumor or get conformation of your intentions. A not insignificant number of your fans feel very strongly about how these large publishers are treating us. I was a lifetime Final Fantasy fan, but after this I will be boycotting all Square Enix games. This would be a good time to reinforce the same customer first attitude towards development that the rest of your work is brimming with. I eagerly await your response.
serene lion
Thanks for the answers guys, I appreciate it 😁
sage pecan
@full sundial i just tried each case once but it seems like point blank headshot from front with mg isnt a oneshot
but if the headshot is in the back of the head it is
for both the small strikers and small shooters*
grand narwhal
Does anyone know if they will announce the new rundown awhile before its released? So we have a chance to replay the curent maps before they are gone
stuck vale
Don't think they've even announced when to expect the next rundown so just keep playing old ones lmao
full sundial
@sage pecan probably because the guys I one shotted were damaged by some shotgun pellets from a sentry gun, but either way, SMG and MG combo means you can headshot each guy with MG and finish them with the tons of ammo the SMG has
craggy pier
What is this game?
thorny current
A 4 player coop horror game?
craggy pier
I've never heard of GTFO before so that's why
thorny current
Ahhh! Wasnt sure about your question 😄 It is a 4 player horror game with stealth, gun and tactical gameplay
dull schooner
Does this game have a roadmap of some kind?
sturdy dew
?t roadmap
eager jacinthBOT
You can view the roadmap here: https://gtfothegame.com/roadmap/
dull schooner
Thx
static marlin
@unkempt ridge thanks bro
limpid ivy
Just got the game - - Do I just drop into one of the channels w/ you guys?
worthy pollen
first check the #how-to-matchmake snd drop into one lfg channel and check if someon need more people to play or ask for people to play
?t lfg
eager jacinthBOT
Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania.
If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.
faint island
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/684747752776794143/684752052844495045/pNLsgZM.png what do the red little dots mean?
lilac fulcrum
@faint island do the dots move at all? If so they are scouts. If not it's a sleeper but a big as they should be showing as larger white dots
faint island
no the dots didnt move at all, there were sleepers near them but the signatures of the creatures were way bigger than these, these had like a red circle with a red dot inside them and there were couple
it was only in 1 room
tribal ether
Like, very small red dots?
lilac fulcrum
That's a known bug then
tribal ether
Ye
faint island
ah alright
rapid dock
so is it 9 or 10 missions for rundown 2?
tribal ether
10
toxic aurora
Which are?
toxic aurora
Thanks
tribal ether
ye
toxic aurora
Looking forwards to what they bring
thorny current
Me too. Really hyped for an update
toxic aurora
Hope there are some harder ones
thick briar
I’m keen on soloing half of em 👀
sturdy dew
rip
sudden raptor
when is the update?
worthy pollen
no date announced
sudden raptor
lame thanks
marble zephyr
what you think tho
sour yacht
Rundown 2 is 7 days after the final person asks when Rundown 2 is
marble zephyr
when is rundown 2
sour yacht
7 days.
minor fractal
@craggy pier Bring a shotgun tbh.
It's nice for when you accidentally get cornered by the scout, even if you intended to melee them.
Just whip it out and blast him.
Alert the room on your terms.
I have a pretty good success rate with dry melee on scouts, yet I usually pack a shotgun as a backup.
marble zephyr
ya
minor fractal
Never know when you'll get caught in the open when one starts glowing, and the scout happens to walk towards you.
or when a teammate will randomly alert the room.
Hell, garbage RNG on enemy positions is a strong motivator too.
There's loads of reasons to just shotgun it.
sage pecan
do the devs intent to make gtfo realistic or just challenging (or smth else)
just wondering bc theres physical details that dont make sense
for example the stereotype that shotgun pellets become harmless past 5m
minor fractal
Challenging, if I had to hazard a guess. They seem to be pursuing some sort of cosmic horror.
sage pecan
thats what it looks like to me but im just wondering
minor fractal
Scouts are actually the most muscular enemy since they can keep those tentacles stretched out in straight lines.
sage pecan
holyshit LOL
how tf do they keep the bottom ends of the tentacles in compression tho
actually maybe its just fluid that keeps the pressure
sage pecan
pretty strongass pump or whatever to keep that kind of pressure tho
full sundial
yeah, I would assume it is fluid pressure physics that would keep the tentacles straight along a path 15 meters out
or something like that
sage pecan
really lewd but i just realized that could mean the tentacles are just erections
minor fractal
Oh bb
full sundial
lmfao, true
sage pecan
but human ones dont even have muscle
they maintain shape from
just the pressure it looks like
even worse considering the scouts shape suggests a female
welp
never gonna look at scouts the same again .-.
minor fractal
Now that's a big cl-
placid cobalt
lusty sedge
how do i "share lobby ID" and get people to join?
knotty mantle
sage pecan
i remember in c2 that the "decoded transmission" from the previous team was "dont look up" presumably followed by something unpleasant
that being said, has anyone tried a 4 person team all shining long range flashlights at the flesh ceilings
like does it provoke a response or anything
ive never tried but im curious
ive tried shooting the flesh on a solo run and the flesh doesnt seem to care
wondering if flashlights can somehow get a response
manic crown
Hmmmm thats not a bad point the flesh must react to something
manic crown
we also aren't thinking of the bigger picture why is there a flesh ceiling? what made it? and what does it look like inside that room?
sage pecan
wait have u done c2 before
manic crown
yeah done them all
unkempt ridge
what's the point of the Terminal in zone 100 ?
full sundial
not sure, pretty weird, but there is weird placements of boxes/lockers clipping in the ground and such, so I don't think it is far off to say it was left there on accident during development and no one mentioned it during bug testing since they were just focused on extracting lol
might be a possibility, or I am missing some actual reason it is there
thick briar
the whole room is packed w loot, to make sure u don’t miss any I’ve used it a fair few times
esp to ping that 5 charge medkit that everyone else has seem to forgotten about
full sundial
zone_100 has no loot in it, that's the zone you use to extract
thick briar
wait after the alarm oh yeah true actually
full sundial
zone_95 is what I think you're talking about
thick briar
yeah ur right, that does seem like a p pointless terminal
doesn’t do any harm just being there I guess
full sundial
yeah, all other zones that are empty of storage containers don't have terminals tho, besides that one
oh wait, does zone_63 have one on C1?
I think it does
I can't think of any other empty zones though
I think all zones have terminals in them, gonna check that tomorrow if I remember, unless someone else does it
old warren
wise thicket
1 or 2 weeks
lilac fulcrum
@wise thicket that's not correct. No date has been specified
wise thicket
Well that's what people have been saying
lilac fulcrum
It's what people are guessing but the devs haven't provided a date. When there is one it'll be in #game-announcements
wise thicket
ludvig announces R2 will come out in 2 weeks
lilac fulcrum
They are hoping for in a few weeks
vital sierra
"few weeks"
thick briar
svante said 'couple of weeks' in one of the pax interviews, so almost certainly this month unless unforeseen circumstances
sour yacht
AKA if one of D0c's databases goes down
lilac fulcrum
Hey, the database is back
sage pecan
@full sundial the optional zone51 doesnt have a terminal i think
im also genuinely confuzled why there would be a terminal in zone100
it doesnt have any extra commands like the ones in the reactor rooms
wise thicket
Easter egg
sage pecan
and when i listed the zone inventory in zone100 with the terminal, it legit just showed the terminal and the door i think
nothing in there
not exactly a functional easter egg tho
wise thicket
I like to say "if you type Easter egg Pac man would pop up"
To new people that play C2
sage pecan
do they try
wise thicket
Ya
sage pecan
xd
craggy pier
Pretty sure there's a terminal because every zone has a terminal
craggy pier
You may be right
odd drum
There's a zone in C2 that doesn't have a terminal. It's the zone where you open a security door into a large dark room with ramen noodles on the ceiling, and the exit to that room has an alarm door. There's no terminal in there, confirmed via list command in another zone
full sundial
I remember that now, you're right Project Zaero
so yeah, not every zone has a terminal, so it is probably just there with no significance to it (the one in zone_100) because some zones that have loot don't have a terminal, and some that don't have loot have terminals
so I am not sure what causes there to be a terminal in a room or not
all zones that have multiple rooms have terminals, but not all zones that have only one room have terminals
sage pecan
i feel it would make sense for each zone to have terminal
bc like if u imagine what the complex was like before shit hit the fan
the workers in there mustve had the ability to ping stuff right
so it would make sense each zone has a terminal but
idk
fair minnow
somtimes when im playing this game it glitches and then i try to fix it by eating a popcorn and rasberry sauce sandwich but it just made it worse
plz helpppp
full sundial
maybe they did, @sage pecan and during the time that the place was abandoned, maybe the sleepers moved some or destroyed some, or something happened to some of them
sage pecan
i guess
but y would sleepers care abt the terminals
i can understand maybe some terminals got bashed around possibly but like at least there should be pieces of it
full sundial
true
minor fractal
It might also be that some areas weren't deemed important enough for terminals. Like, if the area is small, or it's purely for storage, might be good to save the investment.
sage pecan
true but with a company the size of santonian i dont think they would mind the cost of an extra computer
full sundial
especially a cheap computer like the terminals, just ping items, list items, and query info about items
sage pecan
idk whether theyre cheap or not but i just think a company that can afford to dig that fukin far probably has the resources to get more computers
like yea, cars arent cheap to individuals
but in the perspective of a company (like a taxi business i guess) cars are not such a huge expense
its just the scale of things
blazing kernel
fresh siren
Rundown 1 is being removed next update? 😦
unkempt ridge
ye
consider that's normal since current mechanics will be outdated / unsuitable for the next update
vital sierra
well
all of the mechanic will be change "a bit"
if you already watch the Pax-east leak then you know
craggy pier
is it possible to join a started game?
craggy pier
Okay thanks
celest depot
U can leave and join freely so long as there is room, the host doesn’t leave, and of course u have the code
craggy pier
does it give you the equipment you already had? (ammo n' all)
vital sierra
what do you mean
craggy pier
after rejoining would you have the ammo you had when you left
vital sierra
yes
if you have for example IDs in B1
you will DROP them on the ground
not really sure about ammo pack and consumable
craggy pier
i believe you get the same as you were before or you get the randomised amount like you would at the start of a level.
stuck vale
You drop with what you left off with. It's only if a new person comes into the lobby will they start off with w.e spawn rate is
thick briar
if u disconnect u also drop objective items like personnel ID's :)
craggy pier
so when the next rundown comes out, a1-d1 all go away and get replaced?
worthy pollen
yes
craggy pier
will there be any recording that we completed a1-d1 now
or will there be no trace
like, statistics/log
worthy pollen
we dont know if theres gonna be records of the past
craggy pier
gotcha, thanks
worthy pollen
ur welcome
lilac fulcrum
The data that you completed them is saves on GTFO end, a public facing way to see that is tbd.
worthy pollen
granite chasm
anyone cares to quickly explain how to join a friggin game?...lol
sturdy dew
are you steam friends with the person?
worthy pollen
#how-to-matchmake <- i think this can help too
minor fractal
@granite chasm Host gets a lobby code and sends it to you. You copy it and look for the red button on the left side of the rundown.
granite chasm
hmm cant see a red button one see two white
sturdy dew
have you got the code copied
thorny current
Below the GTFO Discord box should appear a red box, if you have ctrl + C the number code
granite chasm
got it
thorny current
Nice
granite chasm
thanks bru! that only took me 30 minutes.. Now for an A1 i guess hahaha
thorny current
Have fun.
marble zephyr
how do i get the ambassador role?, i have signed up on their website also
thorny current
You need to send the GTFO Bot your email address
marble zephyr
ok thank you
thorny current
np
regal pagoda
I can see your orange now
Now time for you to try to get yellow
And then after that purple, blue and finally red
craggy pier
the ultimate goal, becoming mod mail
winter dragon
do we know when the next rundown will be
vital sierra
in March
they want to squash all the bug
and let the Bug hunting team hunt for them before the drop
hollow mortar
So when an alarm for a door is triggered, is it a set number of spawns attacking or does it just spawn more until the alarm is ended?
vital sierra
both
worthy pollen
until alarm is ended but theres a point that the game cant spawn more
vital sierra
both
hollow mortar
So a cap on spawns?
vital sierra
yes
you can gu the entire wave and do the obj
but if you kill 30 - 40% of them
they start spawning more
old mountain
@craggy pier this channel is also not appropriate for twitch links. None of them are, unless the twitch link is gtfo related.
worthy pollen
in that case would be in content creators
fringe canyon
what Unity version does GTFO have ?
fringe canyon
xD
fringe canyon
thx <3
well uh
I guess looking at the game's structure
seems like uhh
2018
prob 4.12f
fringe canyon
but idk how to allign that with a version number
tribal ether
fringe canyon
nui >.<
fringe canyon
Welp
fringe canyon
.> ?
tribal ether
This is a convo for general chat
fringe canyon
Oke
fringe canyon
well uhh
hot jolt
Is there any solo meta equipment?
sturdy dew
mine deployer
jaunty pulsar
Is GTFO a good game to play?
toxic arch
Yes
jaunty pulsar
I am new to gaming on PC Steering away from Console gaming.
toxic arch
PC master race
jaunty pulsar
Awesome! Is it challenging and team member based?
sturdy dew
yes
jaunty pulsar
Nice, I need a good game to play any other game recommendations?
distant ice
Is hip fire as accurate as when aiming down sights? I find it really hard to use the sights here
also are there any console, debug commands or an equivalent that would let you spawn enemies and practice on them? Restarting a run every time when practicing killing Scouts really eats time
sturdy dew
there arent any console commands and hip fire is less accurate
distant ice
is there a way to adjust sights settings (sensitivity and such) separately then?
sturdy dew
i dont think so
distant ice
crap
in general, would you say the game aims for consistency? (not like randomly generated runs, but enemy behaviour, damage and such)
distant ice
not like that, if i can better explain with an example:
hitting a target next to another dormant enemy sometimes wakes it up, others not, even though I didn't change my timing at all (flash the one i'm not hitting and wait until he goes dormant again)
sturdy dew
the distance an enemy can be for it to not get alerted is somewhat strange
it seems like it can change but it shouldnt
sometimes you can get unlucky and an enemy will start glowing right as you kill something
distant ice
for the former point, an enemy is guaranteed to go red if it is close enough to the one you're hitting? and for the latter, there seems to be a cooldown on normal enemies before they can start glowing again, that's why i flash
sturdy dew
i cant tell you the exact distance an enemy has to be to not go red when you kill something but its about 5 metres
honestly i still dont really know and i dont think anyone does
and enemies do have cooldowns but they can start glowing right after stoping in some cases
distant ice
i don't mean red as in starts listening, i mean red as in goes in to attack
sturdy dew
yes thats what i meant
distant ice
but sometimes when i kill an enemy that is right next to another one, the second only starts listening
by "right next" i mean a distance where striking the ground with the hammer makes them go red
sturdy dew
it has to be very close to wake them up
distant ice
🤔
sturdy dew
honestly the best way to find out is to just test it yourself
its difficult to describe it with words
distant ice
been doing that for 6 hours in solo A1 (just got the game 2 days ago with one friend and we're trying to progress as two)
i'm asking because from my experience it seems inconsistent
and i was wondering if that's intentional
full sundial
If two sleepers are within around 3 meters of each other, there is nothing you can do to stop the other from waking up besides killing them at the same time
craggy pier
I haven't found it inconsistent
full sundial
And the only inconsistency is their hitbox for that detection, it could be based on the most center part of the enemy to the sound/kill or the closest body part
We don't know exactly how that works, so you just gotta play it safe
distant ice
i guess that makes sense but then what should we do if we find a big cluster? as 2 we can take out ~5-6 before they start screaming. Saw a group of 14 today
craggy pier
You're not supposed to always be able to kill them silently
full sundial
If an enemy wakes up, their death doesnt wake up others nearby that are glowing, so you can kill one that is close to just one other, then kill the one that wakes without moving too much, and the others won't wake
sturdy dew
dont they?
full sundial
Nope, a woken enemy's death doesnt wake others
sturdy dew
it might be that youre moving while they glob
full sundial
Only your movement trying to kill them
distant ice
so a dying dormant enemy makes noise and a woken one doesn't?
would it be good to shove one on purpose then?
craggy pier
If that's true, you still have to move in order to kill them sometimes
full sundial
I can try to get a clip of me using that technique to clear Z42 Area A on B1
Where a lot of small sleepers normally are close together
It could be, Storm
But a shoved enemy falls over, making you have to move to kill it
sturdy dew
im gonna test dat
full sundial
Let me hop on and get a clip and upload it for you guys
I will @ you guys when I post it
distant ice
as 2 we could space out just right to do it
if it's true thanks a lot for that information, never would've guessed
full sundial
no problem, gonna prove it for ya rq and post the video after it is done uploading to YT
distant ice
by the way, I've noticed the devs say they're trying to make this game "the most awesome co-op experience there is.". Is it possible they'll add balancing/content for parties of other sizes than 4? I'm not sure how far we can go with only two of us
full sundial
maybe, but rn all the expeditions so far have been balanced for 4 players
distant ice
understandably since it's in early access
i'm asking way too many questions so i'll try to make this the last one, any loadout recommendations for 2 players?
full sundial
SMG + MG + Mine Deployer, other guy brings a shotgun sentry
sometimes it can be good to bring two shotgun sentries
distant ice
been favoring pistol and combat shotgun so far, not used to aiming and especially spraying yet, but i'll try, thanks. Maybe i'll adjust my sensitivity to favor aiming down sights.
sturdy dew
okay so i just had a sleeper wake up because of the shove
sturdy dew
no i mean it woke up the sleeper next to it
craggy pier
Don't think he did
sturdy dew
no i did
ethan said if an enemy died that was awake it wouldnt wake up other sleepers with its death sound
that was my method to wake them yp
full sundial
I never shove sleepers unless they're awake, even then, rarely do
so idk about that, if it changes anything
sturdy dew
okie this time ill just walk into them
full sundial
idk about that either
distant ice
flashlight maybe?
sturdy dew
how else would i wake it up?
full sundial
if you find a group of 3
and they're in a line
kill the one on the far side, it will only wake up one, but killing the other one would normally wake up the last one
but since it is now awake, it won't if you kill it without moving
distant ice
but if this theory holds, let's take the same example
take the far side one, flash him enough to wake him up as you're charging, then kill him at the right time once he's awake. Since he was awake, neither of the two others will wake up
full sundial
if they're close enough to hear the kill even when not croaking, it will be challenging to wake only one up with flashlight
distant ice
well i don't know but you just need to find the right angle, don't you
full sundial
maybe
haven't tried it, only killed awakened ones near other sleepers when they hear me kill one
distant ice
maybe also use the cooldown from flashing them once
full sundial
haven't used methods to forcefully wake one up besides waking up to a kill
and there isn't a cooldown for them to start croaking again, you can make them croak right after they finish by flashing them or movement other than crouching
sturdy dew
okay so it might not have been close enough but i killed one that was awake near another one and it didnt wake up
distant ice
there is in my experience
but only tested with crouch-walking and flashing
just as their go-to-sleep animation starts i turn on my flashlight and keep it on them, takes a few seconds before they start listening again
same with crouch-walking
craggy pier
Crouch walking is only a chance that they will react to it
full sundial
that's a bug with them going to sleep with your flashlight on, so they don't react to it again, you have to turn it off and back on again for it to work, Storm
sturdy dew
yeah i got a video of that
full sundial
crouch walking isn't a chance, it is a range, around 2-3 meters near them, they will start to glow to any movement
sturdy dew
had my flashlight on a sleeper for 10 seconds and it didnt react at all
distant ice
back to the drawing board for stealth-killing a group then i guess
full sundial
what do you mean back to the drawing board?
you can stealth kill groups two at a time if the group isn't in a circle huddled
distant ice
that's exactly the kind of group i'm talking about
sturdy dew
if theres a group just leave them till last
full sundial
those are extremely rare
if you get one of those, leave them till last, yeah
then kill as many with stealth as you can, hammer the rest
distant ice
by the way, since i want the opinion of an experienced player on this
wouldn't it be nice if the scan line's speed would be proportional to the distance between its starting point and end point? RNG really messes with us on this
sturdy dew
you mean you dont like it when it takes 10 minutes to get to its destination?
distant ice
yh
sturdy dew
but seriouslyt
rng is always gonna be in a game
and thats just one more of the things
full sundial
there is consistency in the combat, but the enemies you face, the areas you have to go to, the areas the loot spawns in has RNG elements
to keep things interesting
distant ice
and what ethan said is perfectly fine but the scan lines are one of those things you get punished for doing absolutely nothing wrong and with no prior warning to it
doesn't help the game when it's advertised with strategy and planning
sturdy dew
the point of planning is to prepare for the unknown
full sundial
plan for what can happen, not what you already know will
no fun in knowing exactly what's gonna happen
distant ice
the position can still be random 
if that's a no-go, how about adding benny hill theme to that specific scenario instead?
would rng things up a bit between the suspenseful music of a fight and chasing the damn thing in circles
i'm sorta triggered by that thing as you might have noticed.
sturdy dew
i mean that could be funny but the devs probably want to keep imersion
if you want benny hill theres nothing stopping you from doing it
distant ice
once mod support comes that's the first thing i'm adding
distant ice
how long will it take for the full release?
tribal ether
What is this chat about?
craggy pier
If the lines always took the same amount of time to complete then the difficulty would be the same each time
Constant difficulty isn't intruiging
distant ice
you'd be limited by your own running speed though
it wouldn't be the same when the positions aren't the same
full sundial
alright, I am in B1 now, gonna get that clip for you guys, but just wanted to say, unlucky af, two big strikers in 38 B
I give up on that, got unlucky, only four guys spawned in 42 A
well, lucky if I was trying to complete that expedition
distant ice
the cooldown thing still holds when turning the flashlight on and off
not for louder sounds though
louder than crouch-walking i mean
craggy pier
I don't have the same experience
When shining my light on them, they immediately start to glow again
full sundial
yeah, I can force them to glow again easily
distant ice
is the behaviour of them different on A1 then?
full sundial
I use the MG's flashlight as it has further range
no, the same enemies behave the same in every expedition
distant ice
speaking of mg it does seem really effective vs crowd
my burst/tap-fire habit really doesn't do well with this weapon though
maybe a spin-up option?
full sundial
MG is only really effective if you burst/tap fire
save the ammo
it is like a DMR with more ammo and the ability to fire quickly if needed
so don't spam it too much
does similar damage to the DMR I mean
distant ice
i try not to but a delay before every shot really sucks then
like the r8 revolver from csgo
distant ice
can you land more than 1 hit on a scout before it goes invincible?
not from the fire rate of one person ofc but multiple
sturdy dew
probably not but there might be a split second where you can
distant ice
and you're right, MG flashlight does trigger again instantly
not hammer or smg though
craggy pier
Maybe if you're close enough
distant ice
must be something about mine and their positions
on one that's facing down sometimes he triggers instantly sometimes i can keep flashing him
would a spin-up option on the machinegun make it too powerful?
craggy pier
I don't think so
kindred yacht
anybody have any idea why i wouldnt be able to use the hack tool? just tried to on A1 and B2 and cant use hack tool on either
thorny current
Can you hold "E" or whatever button you use for hacking and can you open unlocked Lockers/Boxes?
kindred yacht
No, i cannot interact with locked boxes/lockers and when i try to use the keybind (Alpha7) to actually pull it out it does not work.
i can however open unlocked containers
kind of made my A1 run shit because i couldnt grab the Keycard from a locked box.
thorny current
Have you closed your game and restarted it? Yeah this rly is unfortunate, when a bug destroys your run.
lilac fulcrum
I've heard others have that bug, haven't found repro steps for it though
thorny current
Dont solo it as beginner. Duo might work though.^^ Also aim correctly and utilize the stealth to the fullest. Strategy, stealth and positioning are the keys for a successful run. Also learn how to use the terminal. Cfoam is good for immobilizing the enemy and for reinforcing doors. Use your ears and dont have the flashlight on when opening the doors. AND when you hear someone slurping noodles and see an enemy with tentacles. Do not touch the feelers or alarm the room.
Could tell you so much more, but I believe that is good for the start^^
nova glade
ok thank you man
should we try and duo or just a 4 man to be safe for our first run
idk if you are avaiuable atm but if you are mind jong us and giving us the rundown?
lol
rundown
thorny current
Better 4, if you can find someone, who knows the game the better. I am not availble right now though. Sorry.
distant ice
i'm with you bro, bought 2 days ago and went as 2
first two levels are clearable
just get C-foam grenade for the key door on A1
distant ice
what Ethan said seems accurate but for some reason only in that specific scenario
chilly monolith
Any idea when there will be an update? Game is down to a 3rd of average players due to lack of content :/ Would hate to see this game die like other early access games due to slow updates
lilac fulcrum
The game absolutely won't die
The devs are working on the update as I speak. Our bug hunters are going through a few of the expeditions right now so they can find any game breaking bugs and can get them fixed. The update will be out soonTM. Wish I can give you an exact date but don't have that yet.
distant ice
i guess it makes sense from a balancing point so you have a chance at keeping stealth even with 3 enemies next to each other, but it doesn't make logic sense
could add a silent-er melee weapon that won't trigger anything based on sound, but by angle instead
i.e. nearby enemies get triggered if the body/intestines/blood splash on them
nova glade
so getting to zone 50 theres a door that alerts an alarm
we clear that and unlock thew door but end up getting sawrmed
@thorny current
sturdy dew
what tools are you using?
thorny current
Well, Soy asked the right question.^^
I would recommend someone using a C-foam launcher and 1 a shotgun turret. Place the turret outside the shutter door. So that it shoots them in the back. They get more dmg in the back. Use cfoam to reinforce it. To do that with the launcher you need one fully charge shot and like a 4th or half for the next shot. You will see, when it gets reinforced. Just aim at the closed door. They prolly break through. If you are getting swarmed try to bunny hop out of this situation and run back to the spawn. Then you get some air to breath, but finish the scans first.^^
potent gulch
anyone wanna join?
sturdy dew
Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania.
If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby,
please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.
kindred yacht
I have restarted my game and it doesnt bring the tool back
its just not working not really sure why, i just played yesterday and everything was working fine
fleet peak
do big strikers not wake up rooms?
dapper belfry
They wake up rooms similar to all the other creatures
next pasture
so, ive heard that the melee right click, that i use to cancel swings, does actual damage to the enemies if you hit them with it in the head? is this true, or is does it just keep staggering them?
toxic aurora
Never seen the parry do damage.
next pasture
its a parry?
hot jolt
does it make any difference damage-wise if i'm attacking melee and i release the attack button when the circle flashes white compared to when i wait for it to attack automatically?
unkempt ridge
so, ive heard that the melee right click, that i use to cancel swings, does actual damage to the enemies if you hit them with it in the head? is this true, or is does it just keep staggering them?
@next pasture no it keep staggering them afaik
does it make any difference damage-wise if i'm attacking melee and i release the attack button when the circle flashes white compared to when i wait for it to attack automatically?
@hot jolt no difference
fleet peak
@dapper belfry @vital sierra i can keep a big striker walking around awake in a room full of asleep enemies and the sleepers will never wake up
they dont seem to scream
like every other enemy
its bullets that wake them, or other enemies waking up from your fight
vital sierra
they don't scream
that's why the room will automaticly wake up
@fleet peak
also you can make the big striker walking around the room without waking anyone up
fleet peak
bbut the room doesnt auto wake with a big striker
vital sierra
me and [Alpha]King did it once
i need to clarify it
they don't scream but
the room will wake up without it screaming
fleet peak
I have never had that happen
vital sierra
it's like a missing animation or something
fleet peak
in my 130 hours
rooms dont auto wake on big strikers
i literally jsut tested it twice in the last hour
vital sierra
gonna pump those up mate
dapper belfry
I was so sure they do I feel like I remember the entire room waking up whenever any monster is awake
fleet peak
ive been doing solo runs of d1 for the last while, and i have found that the big striker is the only enemy not to
vital sierra
it's similar to the small striker
the striker have 2 options when they are awake
- go after and attack you or
2.Scream and alert the room
fleet peak
well i just had a room autowake on one, but it seems extrememly inconsistnet
vital sierra
that's it because you
- have a light on
- noise
to make it simple
when open a door
just don't move
i even do a live test with that mechanic
fleet peak
i tihnk if you stagger a big striker when you start attacking it, it wont wake the room. i think it only does its scream at the moment it wakes up
but if it staggers it wont do it
vital sierra
the thing is
the big striker are
to my opinion
are buggy
they can tongue attack and melee attack at the same time
and that apply with the screaming mechanic
because they don't have the screaming animation
they do it at the same time while
attacking or staggering
you can see for yourself with the giant titan
when they walk/sprint after you
sometime they Scream but no animation
@lilac fulcrum do Big striker have scream animation like the small one, Doc?
lilac fulcrum
idk ¯_(ツ)_/¯
hot jolt
is there any damage difference when attacking melee on the body/head...?
hot jolt
weird question.... i should aim in the head then? 😬
minor fractal
Back of the head is ideal, otherwise go for the face.
Face is always better than back.
hollow mortar
So that GTFO Annoucement Trailer from 2017, will the thing at the end of the video be something we'll face eventually or it is already ingame?
vital sierra
New enemy: Will not be revealed 🙂
hollow mortar
That face when 404 Enemy noms your head
unkempt ridge
Face is always better than back.
@minor fractal no
there are like 2 or 3 enemies more vulnerable in the back
vital sierra
charger has joined the chat
unkempt ridge
ye
minor fractal
Chargers don't have a head to begin with.
unkempt ridge
they do
minor fractal
It is functionally a part of their body, as seen by the lack of crit markers.
minor fractal
Their legs are not distinct from their body either, on any enemy whatsoever.
A full charge to the back of the knee kills.
vital sierra
that's count as "back"
unkempt ridge
weird question.... i should aim in the head then? 😬
@hot jolt always head or back if you can, saves legit TONS of ammo and its required to stealth kill some enemies
yes back includes the whole back part
minor fractal
There are no enemies that take less damage to the face than the back.
minor fractal
Their head counts as their back or as their chest.
unkempt ridge
There are no enemies that take less damage to the face than the back.
@minor fractal wrong
minor fractal
The head is a distinct area to hit, chargers have no distinct areas to hit.
minor fractal
Might depend on weapons.
unkempt ridge
I highly doubt wep damages are different depending of the enemies
unkempt ridge
if you say so
unkempt ridge
damages already depends of : weapon base damages, distance with the target, and target's body part
that would be even more confusing if they added specific damage for specifics enemy
minor fractal
Nvm, it is true of all weapons
unkempt ridge
pliant shore
sage pecan
i wish i could directly post a pic of it but are the weapons here https://twitter.com/hashtag/WeaponsOfGTFO?src=hashtag_click&f=image going to be featured later or smth
distant ice
is there a pause function?
upbeat stratus
Do any modding communities exist yet?
thorny current
Modding is not allowed as of this moment. Also a topic we should not talk too much
distant ice
is there any reason behind scouts moonwalking or turning 180? does it mean he noticed me but not enough for feelers?
thorny current
No, I believe it is sometimes just randomized. Although I never saw them moonwalking. Only witnessed those annoying sidesteps. They do turn sometimes in random direction.
I think the devs wanted to create a random feel to them.
distant ice
don't they need a proper turning animation then
rn it's just 1 step forward and suddenly the other one is back
craggy pier
not sure why it does this, it'll just be how they did it but i know what you're on about
thorny current
Maybe this is latency? I see them turning correctly. They do two to three steps and turn 180, but I see them turning. Like someone turns his mouse fast.
craggy pier
It depends for me, I've had cases where they turn weirdly but then sometimes they turn fine.
like you said it might be latency or depends on the position where they turn (like on stairs or around a corner)
distant ice
they also climb up and down ladders at insane speeds
and might've been a bugged one but i was watching one for 5 minutes, he just kept climbing the ladder, taking a few steps, going down and repeating
craggy pier
yeah all enemies do that
distant ice
since they're not human anymore maybe a different way for them to get up and down would fit them
lilac fulcrum
and might've been a bugged one but i was watching one for 5 minutes, he just kept climbing the ladder, taking a few steps, going down and repeating
@distant ice that would be a pathing issue. Our bug hunters are working on finding those so they can get fixed in the next rundown.
vital sierra
@lilac fulcrum Bug hunters already deploy?
lilac fulcrum
Some yes
distant ice
Is there a way to pause the game?
eternal sparrow
if i were to purchase GTFO in early access, would i have to pay for it again when it comes out fully? I just wanna make sure of this before i buy
toxic aurora
Don't do it if you have squadmates with you. @distant ice
@eternal sparrow no.
They would get in big trouble with Steam if they tried to pull that.
eternal sparrow
oh ok, thanks for that
toxic aurora
Yeah, if you buy the game you own it (regardless of early access status). The Developers can't just revoke your ownership.
distant ice
Rather than afk it's for capturing bugs or certain moments
My budget laptop already has a hard time running the game, can't have record on at all times
full sundial
try using GeForce NOW @distant ice , just need decent internet connection (if you don't have an ethernet cord, get one, that will make the connection quite a bit stronger)
I got an ethernet cord for $5 since I am near my router and don't need a really long one
fallow wing
Is there a way to acces to lobby code when you host and you are in-game?
vital sierra
sage pecan
@fallow wing not that i know of, it looks like you have to copy it from the lobby
theres no way to access the code midgame
so make sure to copy the code in lobby before u start
fallow wing
that is what I tought tx
distant ice
is no cooldown between striker melee and ranged attacks intentional? I really feel like you should be able to run past him if you can dodge his ranged and sprint right after
instead i get hit by melee every time
craggy pier
They almost never use their melee attack
distant ice
almost always do on me, and in the same scenario
bait ranged at a close distance, duck under it just in time so it doesn't hit, run past him
and he always hits me with melee despite using the ranged
minor fractal
@distant ice Currently, the big strikers are kinda wonky since they can use all of their abilities at once. They can melee, tongue, and scream all at the same time.
distant ice
Okay I've been practicing scouts for a good 10 hours now and there seems to be a recurring theme here. Are they made to be douchy on purpose? Usually scouts hang not far from players but generally patrolling the area. But the more of it you clear, the less he goes away from other mobs and when there are close to none left he's just constantly around what's left or where the last ones were.
kind trail
yeah they suck
thorny current
The ai prolly has 2 behavoir trees while "idle".
First: Staying around other mobs. The less exist the more it circles around a smaller group. Usually only kill those who rly stand in your way to kill the scout.
Second: Realizing a player is around him. Can lead to him walking away or towards the player, but I am not sure about the last point though. Just seems like it for me.
And prolly he sometimes is just random
kind trail
I’ve gone with the “just killem with a sniper or whatever” tactic
distant ice
I started just shotgunning them in the face sometimes if there's not much of the room left
thorny current
That is also a valid tactic
unkempt ridge
@thorny current you're the one playing with the DMR right ?
thorny current
I only saw footage of the pistol. Never used it myself. Actually it is a good weapon from what I know. Good dmg, high ammo, good accuracy with a somewhat high firerate. Sure the aim must work
kind trail
DMR is actually ok
thorny current
but that is true for all weapons
kind trail
It pops heads quite nicely
thorny current
I love the DMR my favorite weapon.^^
unkempt ridge
you should try pistol then
unkempt ridge
lmao
kind trail
revolver’s good thou
unkempt ridge
You're literally saying the opposite you should say for everything Tinted
XD
or maybe you're trolling on purpose
owo
thorny current
I dont rly like the pistol cause of the none existing scope. Maybe I'll do a run with it, why not never tried it. I can aim with the revolver so it should work with the pistol.
unkempt ridge
why pistol sucks ?
I mean that's strange to read that while it's objectively the best weapon
your taste doesn't matter here
kind trail
it like doesn’t do damage
unkempt ridge
what are you talking about
kind trail
I naturally go for headshots and I’d rather 1 tap them
unkempt ridge
pistol does 2/3 times more damages than the smg/ar
sturdy dew
i dont like pistol cause iron sights are annoying imo
thorny current
I will test it in the near future. I want to see if the pistol works for me
unkempt ridge
don't play pistol like you play dmr
you almost don't need to aim with the pistol
since the dispersion is really tiny
thorny current
okay, will keep that in mind
unkempt ridge
I mean you can aim if you're good at it but it's not as required as it is with like the revolver
OwO
kind trail
hmm
thorny current
Well, iam uploading B1 solo right now and my aim was horrible xD Sometimes it rly depends on my day.
kind trail
I tried it a couple times and didn’t like it
I’ll try it in that context though
I like aiming thou :)
sturdy dew
Honestly the only primary I like is dmr
unkempt ridge
revolver has more dispersion than literally all the automatic weapons except cbt shotty (yes I measured the cursor size for all the weps)
sturdy dew
The others feel too wimpy
unkempt ridge
@sturdy dew what does wimpy mean
thorny current
I like the AR and the DMR. Depends what I need. But yeah the punch of the DMR is just sweet.
sturdy dew
Uhh
thorny current
that the weapons are weak
unkempt ridge
oh
sturdy dew
No not that
thorny current
no?
sturdy dew
One sec
unkempt ridge
the virgin sneak melee vs the chad loud rifle
sturdy dew
by wimpy i mean it doesnt really feel like its got impact
the dmr one shots heads so it feels like its got oomf
unkempt ridge
ye I get you, that's why I stopped playing AR and SMG
full sundial
The Machine Gun is the best gun in the game
sturdy dew
plus i dont like automatic weapons in a game with limited ammo
full sundial
Just sayyin
thorny current
I like the pump shotty more
wanton arch
does the dmr actually one shot or just takes off their heads?
unkempt ridge
CaOWO is literally taking the weapons with the more damages pog
full sundial
Use the MG like a DMR when they're at range, and a burst rifle when they're closer, and then the SMG to finish off the rest if you need to reload
thorny current
one shots shooters
sturdy dew
destroys head in one shot
thorny current
beheads striker with one shot
full sundial
Not strikers tho
unkempt ridge
does the dmr actually one shot or just takes off their heads?
@wanton arch depends of the enemy, and if you aim the face / occiput
sturdy dew
still feels like its oomfing
unkempt ridge
so @thorny current where can we watch the B1 run you upload
full sundial
You can one shot a striker with a DMR to the back of the head, but that is hard to do when they're running at you
wanton arch
its kinda weird cuz it feels like the shooters will take more body shots but will get headshooted easier
sturdy dew
oh yeah blank i tried one shotting a shooter with pistol and i dont think its possible
unkempt ridge
its kinda weird cuz it feels like the shooters will take more body shots but will get headshooted easier
@wanton arch that's not just it feels, that's the case
thorny current
On youtube, but it still takes awhile 😄 I post the video in #live-streams when its ready^^
sturdy dew
i think the way the damage multiplier works is different for shoooters and strikers
unkempt ridge
ok
wanton arch
i see
sturdy dew
striker damage is like 1.5x to the head and shooter damage is 2x to the head
full sundial
Yeah, something like that, Soy
unkempt ridge
On youtube, but it still takes awhile 😄 I post the video in #live-streams when its ready^^
@thorny current what's your mouse / DPI / screen resolution ?
wanton arch
you can still kill both with 2 bullets from the pistol if its headshot
full sundial
Since you can one shot strikers with full charge hammer anywhere
wanton arch
so it make it pretty good
thorny current
xD DPI is a good question. I use the standard for the LG G700s right now. I rly need to download the programm again to adjust the DPI. Although I dont rly have many problems in this game. and 1920x1080
wanton arch
i dont like revolver as much cuz if you dont get always headshot it punish you pretty hard
sturdy dew
same with most weapons
wanton arch
yeah but
the revolvers damage to the body compared to the body seems like its cut in 5 lul
thorny current
Yeah you rly need the aim for the rev. I will use the rev and dmr for B2 solo tomorrow. I want to see if my aim is better in B2. I will upload that aswell.
sturdy dew
good man
wanton arch
pog
thorny current
yeah that would be so broken
wanton arch
but most weapons seem to pretty good/viable
sturdy dew
except sniper
wanton arch
yeah
thorny current
That is the good thing of this game. You can rly go for the weapons and playstyle you want. Tools are way more important
wanton arch
and since i think the sniper cheese on scouts gonna be removed in the next rundown
thorny current
I want to use the burst for B2 too xD
unkempt ridge
That is the good thing of this game. You can rly go for the weapons and playstyle you want. Tools are way more important
@thorny current I tend to disagree with that, dmr needs more ammo, sniper need a buff too, and revolver more ammo too imo
thorny current
I am not sure. I believe that is not what the devs intended. I think Doc mentioned that once
unkempt ridge
but still playable though
unkempt ridge
and since i think the sniper cheese on scouts gonna be removed in the next rundown
@wanton arch what sniper cheese scout ?
thorny current
I agree with the sniper buff though
You can kill them without alerting the enemies
wanton arch
if you shoot the scout from far away , from outside the room he is in
thorny current
from afar
wanton arch
the room wont agro
thorny current
If they take that out and dont buff the sniper it becomes borderline useless.
unkempt ridge
yes but that 's not really a cheese
sound doesn't have infinite range
for all weapons
thorny current
I think they should let that in the game. It comes close to a weapon with a silencer
wanton arch
and they could hear the scout head pop
unkempt ridge
they do hear the scout head pop
thorny current
strikers scream like hell if you kill them in stealth. Nobody care either
wanton arch
but with the sniper they wont
unkempt ridge
sturdy dew
mmm beefy
thorny current
I believe that is the same mechanic if you kill a critter with melee next to another
unkempt ridge
ye I think that's that
wanton arch
mhm
unkempt ridge
strikers scream like hell if you kill them in stealth. Nobody care either
@thorny current lmao they should remove that scream tbh that's so illogical if it doesn't wake up anyone
thorny current
I think so too. It doesnt rly make sense.^^
sturdy dew
its also annoying when they click after dying
wanton arch
they should remove the scream if you pop their head
if not maybe they should still scream
🤔
thorny current
They should be able to scream without the head to aggro the rooms. Would make stealth to easy. I would use that to the fullest
But the scream when killed is just weird
sturdy dew
yeh
imagine if not destroying the head made it so they did the scream that wakes up the whole room
wanton arch
no like i meant if you kill them in stealth and pop the head they dont scream but if you stealth kill but dont pop the head they would still scream or something
thorny current
That is true
sturdy dew
yee
full sundial
Yeah, I read reviews of GTFO yesterday, and I saw one thing a lot of people that didn't recommend the game said was that the stealth was too repetitive, just one method of stealth, hammers and avoiding waking them up, but I think that's just fine, but new enemies that change up that stealth, like scouts, the C2 guys, and hopefully the guys in D1 can be added to sleeping rooms too, on top of new enemies that change up how you approach them in stealth
instead of what people have been saying with crossbows, or bows, or silenced weapons
that seems like it would make it even more boring imo, just adding new enemies would be a great fix, that change how you approach tem
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what do you guys think?
sturdy dew
new enemies would be cool but i think everyone thinks that
stealth is hard to make intresting
full sundial
not everyone, these people that criticized stealth, that I have read (didn't read all) seem to think new weapons would be a better way to go than new enemies
to have more abilities to stealth instead of new enemies that you have to think about differently
toxic arch
Like what
full sundial
if you read waht I said, some suggest suppressed weapons, crossbows or bows
at least from the 4 I read that pointed that out
toxic arch
supressed weapons make it too easy
full sundial
yeah, that's what I think too
toxic arch
A crossbow could be cool tho
sturdy dew
suppressed weapons except none of them can one shot
full sundial
then it wouldn't be a stealth tool, unless it could kill in two or three shots
before they scream
but even then, why do that when you can hammer them for no ammo usage?
toxic arch
a bow is interesting, but it doesnt really suit the theme of the game
sturdy dew
bow except it only has explosive arrows
toxic arch
Isnt that basically a mine
sturdy dew
its not a grenade is a boomy bolt
full sundial
impact grenade with a stick attached for shooty shoot
toxic arch
Not even stun grenades?
full sundial
look at their faq channel
toxic arch
Yh ik
full sundial
specifically no grenade launchers
thorny current
I believe different enemy types going away from the red light green light approach like the scout can improve the game alot in its stealth aspect. Stealth weapons simply make this game to easy. Also environmental hazards can improve on that.
full sundial
so maybe a hand grenade could be possible, but I don't think they will add that
toxic arch
C foam basically is a stun grenade anyways
sturdy dew
but they already have grenades in the game
full sundial
yeah, like glass on the floor in some areas that make noise when stepped on
toxic arch
i guess but they really want to emphasise stealth which is why mines are probably the only explosive to ever be in the game
full sundial
yeah, c-foam grenades, so grenade launchers specifically won't be added then
that are explosive specifically I would assume
I also had a suggestion for a porcupine like enemy that would force their spikes out 2-3 meters in all directions damaging a player if they're in range of that when they start to pulse
when they croak the spikes retract inwards giving a chance for a kill
but if anyone causes it to pulse, the player is damaged and the enemy wakes up
could also push back the player to prevent them from quickly killing it after taking damage
but yeah, I think new enemies for stealth, not new tools for stealth is the way to go
toxic arch
They are working on new enemies
toxic arch
so we'll just have to wait and see what those are like first
full sundial
yup, we'll see, but the question I was asking, or the debate I was starting, was that I think weapons being added to develop stealth probably wouldn't go well
that new enemies for stealth is the way it should be done, and seems like that's what they're doing
just wanted to discuss that