There is no VAC as far as I know on the game, but if the dev didn't said a word about modding (if it's allowed or not) then you shouldn't mod it
#gtfo-related-questions
dire shale
and i'm pretty sure the game isn't made to be modded as it would be atmosphere breaking and well... totally break the immersion the devs are making for us
fierce lily
I apologize if this had been asked before, but does anyone know if there will be player customization in the future?
regal pagoda
I don't know about character but I do see new gear
craggy pier
i think player custimization is comin eventually
lofty thistle
I'm pretty sure it's in the roadmap
craggy pier
?t roadmap
eager jacinthBOT
You can view the roadmap here: https://gtfothegame.com/roadmap/
lofty thistle
Yeah it's in the the backlog
fierce lily
Thanks, I'll keep my eye on the page
neat orbit
Oh the roadmap looks cool
I hope this game's matchmaking system will be finished within 5 years or so
desert yoke
I don't think it will take that long ^^
tribal ether
lol
tribal ether
I saw it, and went "wait a minute"
stuck vale
I'd still use discord
smoky grove
^
just seems to be one of the better options
even if matchmaking is here
id like to still be able to call up peeps ive played with before to rage through the rundown again
stuck vale
Kinda feel you can screen a bit better with discord in some way
Matchmaking won't make anything easier and won't give you necessarily better and solid players
full sundial
they need their own matchmaking eventually though, for it to exit EA, because otherwise they're relying on discord for their community interactions, you want to have the actual game be able to have some of those functions just in case something happens to discord
gusty notch
Does GTFO use peer matchmaking or servers
gusty notch
okay ty
desert yoke
No problem
smoky burrow
so, we just finished b1, got to the extraction but nothing happened...
unkempt ridge
That's a bug, you guys have to redo it... maybe change host and hope for the best :/
small quartz
ya hate to see it
tiny bolt
do you need 4 people to play or can you play with less
floral pecan
@tiny bolt all has been soloed (aside C1. C1 needs exploits to be soloed)
Ofc as summoner said, difficulty doesn't scale
craggy pier
c1 would be impossible without exploits
and even with exploits its still probably the hardest one next to d1
sturdy dew
Why is c1 completely impossible without exploits?
sturdy dew
Oh right
floral pecan
Stand still to type code @sturdy dew
sturdy dew
Well looks like Iโm not doing that one
fluid nova
Imagine having to use exploits to solo a level
U think the devs will change that?
So it's solo-able without exploits
desert yoke
@fluid nova it's a 4 player co-op game. I don't think so ^^
floral pecan
Probably not. The game is ment for 4 people @fluid nova
rancid void
How to hide hud?
modest nest
There is an option in settings for hud visibility (can't recall the exact settings name though), if you turn it down to 0% you won't have the HUD on
elder thicket
Okay so I don't have the game (not enough money) but I have a question
If I mine is placed in another one's blast radius will they set each other off if one detonates
desert yoke
Yes!
elder thicket
Hmm okay cuz if I'm getting the game I'm going all solo and that's very important to know
Also from the videos I've seen like Markiplier's GTFO looks so up my alley, the guns sound amazing and I bet feel amazing to shoot as well
The other thing is what's with the rundown thing
Like if the rundown gets an update do all the levels change?
tribal ether
Yes
tender bough
I think rundown = set of levels
tribal ether
The whole rundown
correct
In the future, there will be a timer, that will tell us when the new rundown comes out
tender bough
so, newbie in the future cant complete A1-D1 anymore ?
๐ฎ
its still available i assume
elder thicket
Lemme know when that changes and I'll be buying the game and soloing A1-D1 without any prior experience
tribal ether
What changes?
tribal ether
Gives you an orange name tag, Access to two chat rooms, that are mostly dead, and some newsletter thing.
I would say, you should do it, for the name tag
elder thicket
Aight I'll do that in a bit
Does anybody actually use military formations in-game at all
Like that
elder thicket
I know Markiplier's squad accidentally did one on C1
2 in the front, 2 in the middle back
That's usually a tank structure but still
elder thicket
Yeah like the image I sent but inverted
That would probably be valuable to use more
Aight I gotta leave but I'll be back here later cuz I love this game without even playing it
Cya mateee
elder thicket
I have returned, and I just thought of something
Also I'm an Ambassador now
Are the models used available for doing animations and all that?
tribal ether
Idk
elder thicket
Can't I ping one with an at?
I wanna make an animation that's completely non profit and I'd just rather not build my own models or anything
tribal ether
Hmmm
elder thicket
I've got an idea for one that's about a solo player, maybe I could even use some MoCap
One idea for a scene I had was they jump over an enemy and throw their hammer down at it then land and blast another with a shotgun, I know how to do the effects it's just models
Well I gotta shower but if a mod shows up here I'd like to know if that's even possible to do
tribal ether
So from what i got out of a mod, most likely not
lilac fulcrum
The models are not available
dire shale
It seems a lot of people are expecting the game to give models and such to do mod while it would totally break the immersion... I don't think anyone wants to see a rainbow unicorn scout or else ...
elder thicket
I don't wanna make mods lol
I could barely even install a Minecraft mod, I don't wanna make them
But that's fair to leave the assets protected, I respect that
craggy pier
yeah cause people could just make the enemies super bright and ruin the immersion
elder thicket
I wanted to make an animation kinda game trailer style
That was made by the community as an update thing
craggy pier
ah ok
elder thicket
Dude I love all the aesthetics about GTFO, if I could make an animation I would be doing my best to capture the horror and tension in the game
It kinda reminds me of the destroyed city in F.E.A.R. 2
There isn't really any way to talk to the devs directly is there
lilac fulcrum
Is your question about getting access / permission to use the models @elder thicket?
elder thicket
Yeah, I have some concepts and I expect nothing in return and accept that it's unlikely that the models for things would be available
lilac fulcrum
I have the authority to answer that and unfortunately they aren't providing / allowing people to use the models.
wise thicket
Dam
elder thicket
Is it possible that at some point in the future those models will become available? I don't really want to write up a storyboard and have it never come to fruition
wise thicket
Someone will rip the models some day
elder thicket
If I had a copy of the game I could probably do that myself but I'm against that and wouldn't use those
lilac fulcrum
I can't speak for the future but it's not likely
wise thicket
Rip gtfo sfm animations
fluid nova
Only acceptable sfm animations are of TF2
elder thicket
Yeah, I'd be using Blender for it
I spent years trying to animate in SFM with no success and after a month of Blender I had a fully functioning and natural looking animation
tribal ether
Oh
elder thicket
Blender is just the best free CGI software
Man well I'll be keeping an eye and ear out for anytime I can get access to models for animation but until then there's nothing I can do
fluid nova
Can't u like make the models or similar looking ones yourself
Easier said than done yeah but mayb that's the only way
dire shale
as @fluid nova just said I was about to ask why you don't make models yourself ? like similar looking ones ?
fluid nova
Probably bc it's hard af to capture the essence of the existing models
And it'll take alot of time
elder thicket
I very well could, using a T-pose image of the front and side
The model isn't the problem as much as the textures are
dire shale
if it isn't the problem why not going for it then ?
elder thicket
See they use normal maps
Do you know how hard it is to recreate those?
Plus all the skin and gore textures
Since I want close up shots it would get increasingly difficult to make it look right
dire shale
yes it is hard but there is probably some algorithm out there that do it for you
fluid nova
So much time infact that the devs might release the models by the time he gets done
elder thicket
Well to make a single normal map I'd have to make the geometry exactly the same then project it onto a plane as an image then see if it looks right and if it doesn't I have to try again
The scale of everything matters cuz it changes how the light behaves
fluid nova
Hmm yes months and months of texture mapping
elder thicket
dire shale
That's why i never got myself into modelling ๐ it looks so complicated for such small details
fluid nova
Oh jesus
elder thicket
Yes
The blood around the face
See how it looks like it's actually dried on there
dire shale
why not trying to make your own thing ? like have something quite similar but not exactly the same ? as you know, if you do make exactly the same thing it could go under some law infringement ?
elder thicket
Well that's the thing about the laws on it, that if I make the exact same thing and use it without permission I get slapped
I think it's also that if I infringe on the concept I'm not safe either
fluid nova
Guess no GTFO animations in the near future
dire shale
Yes so why not, use the "base" i mean the overall look of the monsters / characters and edit them, like make your own story from some "new characters" you created ?
elder thicket
Maybe creative commons would protect me
Not to suggest the devs are copyright sharks
dire shale
i'm sure you could make something without re-using the models and have a GTFO-like atmosphere, might even caught the dev attention if you create new things that could be interesting in the game ?
elder thicket
I mean my other problem is that I've not really done humanoid models yet
fluid nova
Theres a first for everything my friend
dire shale
@fluid nova Or make a new model based on the astmosphere / universe and give it as a suggestion ?
fluid nova
Wish I could help but I'm literally useless when it comes to this kind of topic
If I could model and do the texturing I would tbh
elder thicket
Which in one animation I'm working (that's really dark) I'm making a human
fluid nova
Be sure to tag me when u post it
elder thicket
Dude pick up Blender and start fucking around with it
Of course man, although it's gonna need a content warning
fluid nova
I have blender but I have 0 knowledge on the tools and whatever I can do in there
It took me an hour to figure out how to rotate the camera
dire shale
Lol I do the same when I open blender I make a square and call it a day ๐
elder thicket
Watch the tutorial series
I have over 700 hours in Blender and trust me this guy's good
elder thicket
This guy's also good
I mean if you can screenshot the front and side I can make a base model with no textures
dire shale
you can do this ingame right ?
elder thicket
Do what in-game, screenshot or model things
elder thicket
Yeah when they go and stretch their arms go out into A-pose right
dire shale
If you wait long enough you even have the strikers T-Posing while glowing ๐
elder thicket
It's actually an A-pose if their arms are angled down
dire shale
Same thing you get what I meant ๐
elder thicket
Yeah I gotchu, just having the same body position for everything is important, if they're bent differently from front to side then it gets harder to line things up
dire shale
yes I can't really tell how hard it is, i'm more into the programming world ๐ but everytime I see a model or textures it seems a hell of a time trying to make it look nice
elder thicket
Actually maybe one of the people that drew some clickers and help because they're much better at doing that without a guide
Actually I just noticed even more detail I couldn't see before at the top of the channel
Like the picture of a clicker you can see all the shoulder details
fluid nova
I can't do programming or modeling so learning either rof these is gon be helpful
hot kindle
I hunger for the pleasures of the flesh
formal vault
how do i game??
formal vault
in a team
formal vault
yes please
tribal ether
?t lfg
eager jacinthBOT
Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-western-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania.
If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake.
tribal ether
you should be able to learn it here
tepid smelt
do you need to have voice chat when playing with a team?
hushed compass
tribal ether
You can find a team that's willing to play with you still, shouldn't be too hard
keen nymph
Is there any benefit to the Long-Range flashlight? Just seems pretty pointless to me.
floral pecan
@keen nymph mostly for dark maps, such as D1's escape
and it can help for looting once you cleared a room i guess.. but most gadgets don't have much purpose, aside Cfoam nade of course
so might as well bring it with you if you've got nothing better
it might have a REALLY good use on later rundowns
toxic aurora
LRF is King at alerting enemies. It's my favorite consumable.
trail cypress
is there any reason to actually put pump shotgun over combat
full sundial
higher damage per shot, so if you can't aim as well or don't want to get as close to the enemy to kill them in one shot, it is better in that regard. But otherwise, the combat shotgun out performs the pump shotgun if you can use it close up, and aim it at their head/chest area.
floral pecan
pump is a more secure 1 hit kill as well
but tbh i prefer combat for many reasons, main one being it shoots faster
meaning more staggering power
full sundial
combat can one hit kill very easily if you get up close to them and aim for the head area
but the combat shotgun and shotgun are the best for taking out the big boys
floral pecan
i do feel like a lot of weapons/gadgets might be more usefull with new enemies tbh
full sundial
LRF is a good substitute for the DMR/MG flashlights, helps you sync up enemies at around the 10 meter mark which the default flashlight can't do
floral pecan
be aware doh
they REALLY sense that flashlight
if you leave it on just a little bit too long, they'll get allerted
tribal ether
You could also shoot a bullet to sync them up
split saddle
How much do I have to pay to get a small pet floating over my shoulder?
lilac fulcrum
$777,777,777.77
unkempt ridge
is there any reason to actually put pump shotgun over combat
@trail cypress more than 2 times more damages, better accuracy and range
Highest damages in the game (more than the Sniper of the Player is close enough), can take out a Scout too (one shot)
I read some incorrect infos about flashlight so theres a link to be clear https://gtfo.gamepedia.com/Flashlight
Is there any benefit to the Long-Range flashlight? Just seems pretty pointless to me.
@keen nymph it's really useful to sync up all the enemies including the ones being far away, you will also beg for a lrf for some levels! It's my second favorite consumable after the cfoam
tbh that's the LRF that comforted me to play with the MG, I became addicted to the light
@.@
smoky burrow
Can i join in lobbies from NA when i'm from another region? I can speak clear english and i don't believe the ping will be a problem.
modest nest
Rance as long as you can make sure that the person who has the best connection and pc hosts you should have no problems with playing with NA people, speaking from personal experience
smoky burrow
I see, it's just because NA usually hosts more lobbies, that's good to know then, thanks!
bleak merlin
So I saw a picture in general chat that looks like he SLeepers covered in C-Foam. is that a thing? does that work offensively like that?
full sundial
yeah, if you can get it on them, really handy for taking out scouts easily if you can c-foam it
bleak merlin
alright cool. i didnt htink it would have that kind of interaction. i need to learn the enemy names. Scouts = Tentacle head. and then there was some super large boy at one point. and the Sleepers just dont do anythign till alerted. im asuming alot here lol
full sundial
There is the two base sleepers, shooters and strikers. Then there is the big variants of both. Then there is the scout. There are two other variants of the strikers that you can experience in the game in C2 and D1, but I won't spoil those new enemies for you ๐
nova cliff
Does the sniper rifle's scope have a zoom when ADS? Also, how far do you have to be from scouts for a silent kill?
uneven compass
Sniper rifles scope does not have a zoom when ADS. You must be pretty far from the sleepers and not be in the same room as the sleepers in order to get a silent snipe.
Usually most of the time, a silent snipe is not possible. There may never really be that much room to silently snipe with a few exceptions.
craggy pier
hammer
cfoam
good
for killing scouts
you must be 30 meters
away
feet
meters?
very far away
uneven compass
Very far away and not in the same room as the sleepers, like I said.
You can always just sneak up and melee the scout silently. Itโs one-shot to the head with a full melee charge.
uneven compass
I mean thatโd wake everybody else up, but alright.
keen junco
If youโre close enough to use a shotgun you may aswell use the hammer
keen nymph
@unkempt ridge thank you โค๏ธ
nova cliff
Sounds like that the sniper kinda sucks lol
molten epoch
Sniper have it uses, I just don't pick it myself, that is someone else's burden : p
floral pecan
Only 1 use, kill scouts
Can be a stealth kill if you shoot him from a different room from a certain distance
@nova cliff ^
scenic plinth
Hello, is there a date when GTFO comes out of early access?
limpid fulcrum
idk
tbh
I think there might be some performance problems
Also I kinda want a matchmaking system
As cool as Discord is
A in house matchmaking would be nice
scenic plinth
Rip
floral pecan
It got out 2 months ago
bright orchid
On the topic of the sniper, are the bullets hitscan?
limpid fulcrum
above and beyond
molten epoch
@scenic plinth Yo! GTFO was released in December and the initial goal for "GTFO will be in Early Access for approximately a year."
But the devs have no dates as of yet, a lot of things needs to be developed and tweaked to ensure the quality the Devs have set ๐
floral pecan
@bright orchid as far as i know, everything is
scenic plinth
So probs around dec 2020 or first months of 2021
bright orchid
Oh, neat. Thank you, friends.
limpid fulcrum
Yw
floral pecan
Anytime
limpid fulcrum
Also nice art Zyrex
molten epoch
@scenic plinth It's hard to tell, sometimes it takes longer, sometimes shorter ๐ But the Devs have already spent 4 years on the game beforehand, to make sure there is a system that makes new implementation less of a pain ๐
scenic plinth
Still thinking whether I should buy now since its cheaper or buy when its fully out
molten epoch
It is gonna cost more at full release ๐
And you can always pick it up now and wait for the full release, as an investment
bright orchid
The game as of right now is really good already. I'd say go for it personally.
molten epoch
The game have given me around 16 hours content as of now.
scenic plinth
Not really a fan of buying early access games so yeah. Perhaps I"ll wait
molten epoch
Yeah I get that, me too, but this one have been a good surprised, even that good that I'm doing volunteer moderation for this discord, bc I believe in this project ๐
scenic plinth
Thats good. Only played the alpha before. Was good enough but I didnt play anymore of it cause I want to reserve myself when it already comes out.
molten epoch
That is also a smart solution ๐
It ain't "now or never" anyways, so feel free to come back and ask more, if a future update peek your interest ๐
molten epoch
Np mate, I respect people who is concerned with good investment in their game purchases, feel free to hang around and just ask if needed! ๐
craggy pier
we are very dedicated to answering all questions
whole notch
On a scale of 1-10 how dedicated are you?
digital holly
@scenic plinth I already have over 100 hours in. Beat the first rundown set. Can't wait for the next one! One of my new fav games. Your call but I say go for it.
scenic plinth
Soon
stuck vale
Just go into a run down with different tools and guns. Or mix up roles. Or explore different set ups . There's technically something you could always do that's different the last. That's how I've managed so many hours in the game too
craggy pier
thats just a way to say you are addicted to the game
an excuse to why you play so much
elder scarab
Yeah, agreed
stuck vale
If that's how you perceive it. To me it's trying to play the game to its fullest potential. That is why people solo. You get the best out if the money you spend on the game
elder scarab
Trying out every single combination and tweak and just changing the smallest things to get as much out of a relatively finite thing sounds like addiction imo
stuck vale
So you play a game never having tried half the guns and tools? Lmao
Y'all need to tell the soloers they are addicted to a game for spending hours trying to beat a game meant for 4 people. To me it just seems like a goal that brings challenges to themselves and forces them to think and plan ahead. 
jolly plover
Yeah, if you think thats addiction then, and i mean this in the nicest way, are not smart
floral pecan
It's amazing to find ways to enjoy games for longer imo
I'm not THAT good at it for example, i got 35hrs and called it a day for first rundown
Plus, the topic "addiction" goes a lot more in depth than that
minor fractal
How much c-foam is needed to freeze a scout? Same for big guys.
Also, how can I efficiently use mines? It seems like most groups take them to be useless, but I feel like they could be powerful with a good strategy.
uneven compass
It takes around 2-3 units of the c-foam weapon ammo to freeze commons and scouts. Around 10 units for the big sleepers.
craggy pier
Mines are fun but if not done well they'll lead to either instantly 100-0ing a teammate, killing a random stray enemy, or doing absolutely nothing.
They're particularly useful for the other side of doors as enemies clump up to destroy them, or at the top of a ladder. As well as if you are doing cross-area pulls, to bait them into a clump and put a mine in their path.
Some people I've seen mine a scout's patrol path but I can't get that done consistently
floral pecan
Ok so, to clarify and add on some stuff Sushi said (which is mostly right), the mine killing a scout without waking up the sleepers IS a bug and will be fixed. Mines are HARD to use right, they are usually used for solo, given at that point it's only you moving the sleepers around and deciding when to kill them (normally you should group them up and then run them into a mine). If used in a group with bad placement, mostly what Sushi mentioned can happen. Also, just so you are aware, 1 cfoam nade can freeze a scout and big guys alike @minor fractal
unkempt ridge
Also a mine placed too low will not one-shot a scout
minor fractal
@floral pecan Thanks, the c-foam was mostly about the launcher, since it can be used more controllably.
floral pecan
oh, luckily Extract got you covered on that one, i never use the launcher
tribal ether
When dealing with scouts
tribal ether
Aim for the feet senpai
snow bone
Oh no
tribal ether
oh no?
fallen island
Just started w/ GTFO last night. Did a solo run to get used to it and want to start joining team runs but since I'm late to the game: what're some first-time tm8 mistakes to avoid? Aside from stuff like being stingy w/ resources, running into a new room and firing at random...dumb shit in general.
molten epoch
@fallen island Most important thing is to ||Have fun|| :D
Besides that, willingness to communicate is most important
tribal ether
Don't do dumb shit
unkempt ridge
Just started w/ GTFO last night. Did a solo run to get used to it and want to start joining team runs but since I'm late to the game: what're some first-time tm8 mistakes to avoid? Aside from stuff like being stingy w/ resources, running into a new room and firing at random...dumb shit in general.
@fallen island so there is really basic stuff to know, like the enemies detect the light and movement (even crouching / uncrouching), when an enemy has its heart beating stop moving completely, careful to light off your flashlight
there are tons of stuff to know but the most important is to ||take the mallet||
some mistakes I see a lot of first-timers do is to forget to turn off their flashlight so they wake up enemies
molten epoch
Do not try to lure people to the false boop stick heathen! Gavel Gang!
unkempt ridge
What ! I thought you were mallet gang
I feel betrayed
oh
I misread
!!!!!!!!!!!!!
molten epoch
Gavel is the choice of the humble man, no vanity! ๐
tribal ether
Mallet is the choice for the man, that brings me mallet
grizzled ginkgo
so in B1 i keep having issues with killing titans. how does one stealthily kill a room of 5 titans without having to run tf away and waste a bunch of health and ammo on killing them?
unkempt ridge
with my boys we were 4 around the titans, 1 target the head, 2 target both legs, and 1 target an arm
each one full charge a hammer and hit the target at the same time
molten epoch
Yo! A group can take down a big guy with a sync strike, otherwise, pick your battles, sometimes sneaking thru them is a viable solution too ๐
unkempt ridge
just after it, hit second time (in the air if the titan died already) in case
grizzled ginkgo
ive done something similar to that each time
but every time we sync a strike the titan doesnt die.
which alerts the other titans
unkempt ridge
sometimes few normal hit are enough to finish the kill
if the 4 fully charged hammer weren't enough
but yes in B1 you can also sneak through them
grizzled ginkgo
well, if you can get the few normal hits in before the titan swings its arm and downs the whole team in less than a second
unkempt ridge
Pog
that's strange a big guy didn't die by doing what I said
they have less health than the big girls
grizzled ginkgo
its happened on both types
wiped the two different teams when we failed to kill the striker
unkempt ridge
I think if you guys fail to kill a big guy that's because someone weren't hitting the right part
grizzled ginkgo
and caused a panic and fight against 5 titans when we couldnt kill the ranger
unkempt ridge
ranged won't wipe your team if the 4 hammers are not enough you can kill it after with normal hammer hits without waking up the others
grizzled ginkgo
not when theres a striker 10 feet away lol
unkempt ridge
Hmmmmm
grizzled ginkgo
yea it was all kinds of dumb
at this point im bout ready to take a setup a choke and shoot first policy
unkempt ridge
I'd tend to start by doing the striker first, also if someone has a cfoam what you can do when 2 big bois are sticking together is to freeze one so he won't wake up when you guys will kill the other
lmao
anyways in B1 you can just stealth everything after the 1st alarm door
grizzled ginkgo
well the striker was in a really bad spot
he was standing on stairs
and you couldnt get around him
and the ranger was in a corner 10 feet behind the titan. the only other direction we could go in that room lol
it was also foggy as balls
grizzled ginkgo
i think ill just pose the option to the team next time
if weve already done 1 security door, and we have good health and ammo, ill suggest the setup and shoot first option
cuz its honestly faster and easier than stealthing or trying to kill them all with stealth
unkempt ridge
You will not have enough ammos for all B1 if you do that
floral pecan
and yea, you definitelly won't
and i'd suggest to kinda get used to it
it won't be the only time you see tons of giants in 1 room
grizzled ginkgo
im only proposing this for the rooms with 5 titans in them
we can handle rooms that have 1 or 2 in them fine if we take out the little guys first
stealthily that is
floral pecan
that'd be a lot of ammo ๐ค
but eh, it's B1
so maybe
if you can stealth the other rooms..
i believe that map has around 3 mistakes at max
or something along those lines
1 "mistake" would be clearing the giants loudly
so yea, max like 2 more left after that (depending on what mistakes they are of course)
grizzled ginkgo
what do you mean?
floral pecan
usually most maps have an overall amount of mistakes you can do
A.k.A "Hey mess up THIS amount of times and you probably won't have supplies if you mess up again"
Messing up = Waking up a room, a scout for the most part
of course messups can also be other things and some are worse than others
grizzled ginkgo
so what if you kill the scout loudly and wake up the room that way?
grizzled ginkgo
i mean is that counted as a mistake
floral pecan
let's say this
mistakes is what makes you use ammo that you could've not used
soo yea, cause you can stealthly kill scouts
grizzled ginkgo
is this like a theoretical thing or a thing the game actually tracks?
floral pecan
oh nono
theoretical
literally just a thing of mine that i use to explain
to overall give an "idea"
grizzled ginkgo
oh
so using your theory, the impact that each mistake makes on your supplies is different depending on the situation, right?
tall viper
theres only so much ammo and resources and each fuck up costs some resources therefore only so many fuck ups before the ultimate fuck up
floral pecan
Mmmh, yea. If you mess up and let's say.. wake up an ENTIRE room, than that will count more than if you wake up a room with only a few sleepers left
^ also what grand said
everybody explains it in different ways, but the idea is the same
grizzled ginkgo
so waking up a small room by killing the scout loudly will waste less resources than trying to stealth kill everything and accidentally touching a tentacle to alert the room and spawn more enemies from the scout
grizzled ginkgo
its a game of knowing your limits i guess
floral pecan
Oh yea, but i'd suggest to opt for options to stealthly kill the scout
tall viper
if you know you cant take scouts out easily then bring a sniper and decimate them and deal with the fallout
floral pecan
if you want a list of how to kill a scout let me know
cause you CAN use snipers to stealthly kill too
if the map allows it..
grizzled ginkgo
what?
tall viper
usually it wont
floral pecan
NOTE: Always try to kill the scout in an area without sleepers around it, so they won't limit your movement / risk to be woken up when you kill the scout, therefore clearing some areas to have more space to work with is a really good idea
- Melee - Once done what it's said in the note, wait for him to trow his tentacles out in a safe spot, once he's done, try to crouch in his possible path. If he walks towards you, then just wait for him to approach you and give him a blow in the face. You can help yourself by crouch walking (Safest way). If he walks away from you, either try to approach him with crouch walking or just wait and retry. NOTE: DO NOT bump into him!
- C foam + Melee - Simple and usually most reliable method. Trow a cfoam either at the scout or the ground, DOUBLE CHECK that he got frozen, and THEN just fully charge a melee in the head
- Mines - Just place it in its possible path.. but i'd suggest to not get used to this one, cause it's just a bug that it doesn't wake up the room and it will be fixed
- Sniper - Another good way and the only good use for sniper. It will wake up the room if you shoot him from too close, but if you can manage to shoot the scout from another room, you can get off with a stealth kill (the furthest you are from the room, the more likely you are to make it as a stealth kill)
grizzled ginkgo
cuz im too damn scared to get close lol
floral pecan
just look at the forth
floral pecan
of course, you don't always have the chance to do that
grizzled ginkgo
what exactly is the range on sleepers for gunshot sounds?
tall viper
the room i think
floral pecan
sadly i doubt anybody knows that, given there isn't data
there is 1 guy doh
who has been testing this stuff
lemme see if i can ping
@unkempt ridge ^
unkempt ridge
floral pecan
look at the question please, i'm aware you know a thing or two about that ๐
or well, you should
grizzled ginkgo
what exactly is the range of hearing for sleepers when it comes to gunshot?
unkempt ridge
I don't know the range
floral pecan
welp nvm
grizzled ginkgo
fek
grizzled ginkgo
id like to be able to judge whether or not my shot will wake up the room lol
floral pecan
made it for when people ask that myself 
unkempt ridge
just precise the mine need to be placed correctly ( a mine on scout's feet won't kill it )
grizzled ginkgo
guess ill have to figure out myself
unkempt ridge
and a pump shotgun also kill it
floral pecan
kk ty
unkempt ridge
floral pecan
and yea, i guess for the time being you can just uh.. be as far as you can.. i guess
and just go with that ๐
unkempt ridge
yes
grizzled ginkgo
i mean at this point ill take what i can get
if it wakes up the room thats fine. scout cant wake up next room and spawn more enemies, so it still mitigates some risk
unkempt ridge
@grizzled ginkgo also if you are the sniper, be aware that's easier to aim for the head when the scout is not lowering down with its tentacles
grizzled ginkgo
yea, i learned that lol
unkempt ridge
Pog
tribal ether
@unkempt ridge really do be helping peeps alot
grizzled ginkgo
ive only shot one, but i did it right after he brought them back
floral pecan
oor
grizzled ginkgo
it was dark af and a literal shot in the dark
floral pecan
learn how to melee it
tribal ether
Ye
grizzled ginkgo
but i was real happy when the graphic popped up for the kill lol
tribal ether
Your choice
unkempt ridge
@unkempt ridge really do be helping peeps alot
@tribal ether dont say that when @floral pecan is just here helping literally more than me LOL
tribal ether
I already praise him tho
unkempt ridge
Owo
floral pecan
this is the channel i lurk on ๐
unkempt ridge
but i was real happy when the graphic popped up for the kill lol
@grizzled ginkgo that satisfying feeling
tall viper
why are people praising other people?
grizzled ginkgo
i mean, it was such a high pressure shot
i only had one bullet
we were all hurt
and didnt have the confidence to face a scout head on lol
floral pecan
i had such a situation once, but the deal was we were all in a room with like 3 big boys and we were REALLY low on supplies
and lots of small ones
tribal ether
One day you will learn it
floral pecan
of course that's on B1, when i had like 5hrs into the game
and yea, i think i was the one who woke the room up
wasn't that good at stealth back then ๐
unkempt ridge
tribal ether
I do recommend learning to melee the scouts, so the special weapon slot, can be used for something else
floral pecan
my team was able to stay alive doh, it was tragic. Just seeing the big boys slowly stomp towards them and not knowing what's happening
Oh yea, that too ^
tribal ether
Zy, didnt we clear C2 together
grizzled ginkgo
๐ค
tribal ether
And then fail at C1
floral pecan
i think i only played with you once, and that was C1
grizzled ginkgo
i like the sniper tho
floral pecan
oh yea ofc, as long as you like it
grizzled ginkgo
great for squishing titan heads
unkempt ridge
the major issue I have with melee the scout is you usually have to clean up some other sleepers before, and that means if that's not handled correctly that's kinda fucked up
tribal ether
Ye
floral pecan
some options are better than others, but if you like something and you are happy with it, that should be first priority
floral pecan
Oh yea, meleeing a scout is a rough process and easy to mess up
i've personally been doing it all the time when i see a scout just to practice it
been going fairly well
grizzled ginkgo
i honestly like going for lower risk lower reward situations rather than high risk high reward situations
tho sometimes theres no choice
tribal ether
I like melee them, since you get such a good felling
grizzled ginkgo
nothing is more satisfying than seeing the kill graphic when you took a blind shot
unkempt ridge
killing a scout with the sniper is the most satisfying feeling I have in this game
;-;
tribal ether
Tho, in some special cases, has the one in B2 between zone 16 and 17, where you can take the.shot, I feel it might be.worth to bring
Without waking them up
grizzled ginkgo
and i mean
using the sniper. even if it does wake them up, if you prepare for them to wake up, then you likely wont lose as much supplies as if you went in trying to stealth and then made a mistake
tribal ether
Ye
floral pecan
Yea that can work too
grizzled ginkgo
so as long as the people i keep getting in my teams are inexperienced and shy when it comes to stealth, im more inclined to take the safer route
tribal ether
I like the high risk, high reward more.tho
grizzled ginkgo
i also have two issues with the game... when you run out of glowsticks, it automatically switches you to a weapon. so you go to throw another one and accidentally spray your smg everywhere
and the other is when you click out and then back in, it does an attack
unkempt ridge
yeah it was in the suggestions before, hopefully the devs will change it
grizzled ginkgo
ive woken up like 3 rooms because of this >_>
unkempt ridge
and the other is when you click out and then back in, it does an attack
@grizzled ginkgo what do you mean ?
grizzled ginkgo
click off the game, like to discord, and then click back onto the game
tribal ether
Ye
unkempt ridge
but that's a normal behavior, it will do that on other FPS too
tribal ether
Alt tab for.the win
grizzled ginkgo
i have two screens and normally play my games in borderless window, so its habit to just click off and then back in
grizzled ginkgo
yea, but it sucks when you wanna do something on the other screen for a moment and you click back in and accidentally ruin the whole situation
unkempt ridge
cries in solo.screen setup
@tribal ether
grizzled ginkgo
just cuz its normal for the main genre doesnt mean we cant pursue some sort of fix for it because of the sub genres of the game
unkempt ridge
well I mean
you click you shot
the game isn't supposed to detect your click was to focus window on it
w<
grizzled ginkgo
but it could
quality of life changes my man
they go a long way
devs showing theyre willing to listen to their community and make qol changes like that will do more for them than adding 8 new levels of content and ignoring the qol issues by brushing them off and saying โits normalโ
tribal ether
But it is normal, and I think they have more important things to work on
grizzled ginkgo
like yea its normal, and i could eventually teach myself to go around the issue, but itd be really cool if they just eliminated it altogether
and im not demanding an immediate fix either. not saying fix it now, just consider fixing it at some point so i can stop being annoyed by it lol
asking to fix it now is like asking someone carrying a stack of boxes in their arms to hold the door for me
steady drum
hello are scouts supposed to teleport down stairs
grizzled ginkgo
i would say no
grizzled ginkgo
prolly a bug then
snow hornet
WHEN IS NEXT FLOOR!
floral pecan
Sadly no idea. I'd say intended cause they do have some animation
crystal kestrel
Can the scans be different for the amount of people there is in the squad e.g numbers of scans reduced by 3 for 1 person
/per door
unkempt ridge
No it doesn't scale
since the game is made for 4 people
maybe in the next patches but no one knows
crystal kestrel
oooh ok
safe atlas
anyone know wtf was the discord announcement was about?
unkempt ridge
?
crystal kestrel
what about matchmaking?
safe atlas
no about being raided
unkempt ridge
matchmaking is planned for future updates, you can see it on the roadmap here (under "Backlog") https://gtfothegame.com/roadmap/
@safe atlas the server got raid by bots
safe atlas
oh like ddos?
unkempt ridge
yup
unkempt ridge
lilac fulcrum
yeah people coming in to spam the server with messages. We got it cleaned up and discord is swinging a big hammer at their accounts.
craggy nest
I'd love there to be a back story at some point
lilac fulcrum
back story on the server raid we had?
lilac fulcrum
oh yeah there will be more story and lore revealed and time progresses.
craggy nest
great cant wait!
pliant imp
Noot Noot?
shell galleon
No, it doesn't consume anything.
craggy pier
Gotcha, so no upgrading range or anything then damn
shell galleon
There have been teasers in the past about different upgrades to the Bioscanner, but none in the works that I'm currently aware of.
full sundial
The bioscanner starts with 67% on tab for some people besides the person that has it equipped, and you can use two tool refill on it to get to 100%, which means you just wasted two tool refill, it does nothing extra though
When I first saw the 67% I thought it would recharge its scan faster, but nah, just a waste
lament burrow
I'm sure this has already been asked, but any news on when the next rundown is going to happen?
green sigil
fading grail
No news as of yet - all we know is that it's being work on and the Devs are well aware people are eager to play the next Rundown :p
grizzled ginkgo
my question is: will you be able to play old rundowns or is each rundown like a timed event?
dire shale
As far as we know new rundow will replace the actual ones
But it might come later that wa have an "archives" of the old rundows but unsure about that, i know it has been suggested before
grizzled ginkgo
that makes me sad. i dont like it when games lock lore away forever once that content is no longer the newest content
dire shale
Just keep an eye on the roadmap they give, there is plenty of information on the upcoming updates; rundowns might later have a save of the old rundows or be linked to it, but so far there is no sure information (only supposition) if the rundown will be available after the next release
errant bane
i would hope they would keep the previous rundown as well just for more content
lilac fulcrum
The user interface would be too cluttered trying to gold onto all previous Rundowns. They could make a return but the idea is to rotate out Rundowns for new ones
wide blaze
can someone explain mines to me? do they explode in a sphere, a cone, or a line?
unkempt ridge
line!
along the laser
don't place them on your or your allies' path
a mine placed too high will not be triggered by crawling sleepers
a mine placed too low will not kill a scout
tribal ether
And a line placed at ya heart, will steal ya love, and marriage with a mine is hell
unkempt ridge
weary crater
I heard that you can't host a match so others can join, or join a particular match to play with friends. Is this still the case? Matchmaking is just completely random?
craggy nest
wait so just to confirm, the full damage of the mine will be felt all along the line?
molten epoch
@weary crater Yo! The game have never had "random matchmaking", in fact as of now (but on its way) there is no Matchmaking.
You can make lobbies, when you do that, you get a lobby ID that you can send to friends, they just need to copy that number into their clipboard. and when they enter the rundown menu, they'll join your lobby ๐
weary crater
Awesome, thanks for clearing this up. My cousin has been very misguided indeed... ha.
molten epoch
Haha, that's the internet for you ๐ You can take a look in the #how-to-matchmake, that should explain everything ๐
unkempt ridge
wait so just to confirm, the full damage of the mine will be felt all along the line?
@craggy nest I think yes but I'm not sure, you can verify with a mate, place a mine, tell him to go at the farther away possible on the laser and shot in the mine
craggy nest
ok thanks ๐
floral pecan
if i'm not mistaken i've tried that.. and the answer should be yes
can't be 100% sure just cause i don't hop into the game from like 2 months now (i need this new rundown)
signal stone
Whats the point of pinging a hsu? it says its in zone_52 area_a but nothing special is there
unkempt ridge
the hsu is there
grizzled ginkgo
pinging something makes a noise whereas querying something tells you what zone its in
so when youโre in that zone, you ping it, and the ping helps you find it easier
grizzled ginkgo
that works too
signal stone
Are you allowed to open them all?
signal stone
Ohh okay so i was wasting my time xD
unkempt ridge
your HUD will prompt you once you get in frond of the right HSU
@.@
are you playing solo ?
signal stone
Lol yeah xD
unkempt ridge
O-o
grizzled ginkgo
๐ค
signal stone
Just extracted on a1 ty for that info
toxic aurora
Not great but probably playable
fringe fjord
fair enough
unkempt ridge
biotracker
cerulean ridge
my group keeps dying in the room before the reactor room
yeah I've been using biotracker than then 3 shotgun sentries
unkempt ridge
why
cerulean ridge
idk tbh its probably just my group lol someone keeps alerting the zombies and then we waste so much ammo
unkempt ridge
stealth issues ?
when sleepers are around a sleeper you want to kill, you need to be sure they're not glowing while you're killing the sleeper, also don't move after killing it, check around to see if everything is fine
a sleeper facing another sleeper you're killing is more likely to wake up too
sleepers can wake up from very far away unfortunately so you really need to check up pretty everything in your field of view isn't glowing
full sundial
Also, if you're failing the alarm door, after clearing zone_70, go to zone_75/76 to get tool refill and fill up on ammo/meds
dire shale
Or before activating the reactor code sequence send someone at the exit ๐
blissful cargo
B1 bigboi party or is that b2?
molten epoch
@blissful cargo ||Both||
blissful cargo
nice
craggy pier
Is there any way to consistently kill the black spikey bois
sometimes they get one-shot, sometimes they stagger and take 3 more hits
tribal ether
You have to hit them from behind
stuck vale
Max melee from behind in the middle of their back/spine
jovial hatch
hey! i used the terminal to ping a keycard, it said it was in 17a but i canโt find anything in 17a
i already checked all the lockers
mental comet
If you are playing with someone else just keep pinging it until they can find it
jovial hatch
we checked everything in the room and we canโt find anything
mental comet
Which level you on?
jovial hatch
b-2
mental comet
maybe one of you already grabbed it without realizing idk
stuck vale
Someone got it or you missed a sneaky locker. Really never seen a terminal give false information so
jovial hatch
it accepted an incorrect keycard
unkempt ridge
stuck vale
I have had an instance in b2 where the name on door and name on keycard was actually very different that I thought we never found the card. But the terminal still said it was in the location it was so
I just end up running back with each card just in case to make sure
xd
full sundial
If you leave and rejoin an expedition, the terminal quite regularly gives false info, probably if things changed while you weren't in the expedition. I have also had one of my teammates have a different keycard than the one the door needed, and the door accepted it. Also, almost all keycards stay on the list of items even if you already picked them up from the games I have played.
grizzled ginkgo
so can you two shot a titan with a sniper or is it 3 shots minimum?
toxic aurora
I don't think you can two shot them with a sniper.
grizzled ginkgo
can you two shot them with anything or is sniper unrivaled in per shot damage?
grizzled ginkgo
well uh, i dont count mines... cuz that isnt a gun >_>
full sundial
the shotgun close up is more powerful than the sniper
if the sniper was able to three shot big strikers and shooters, then it would be much more useful
toxic aurora
Some said that the shotgun at points blank took 4 shots to kill a big guys and a sniper took 5.
craggy pier
i can take 3-5
maybe more
damage fall off is disgusting if it has any
feels llike it
grizzled ginkgo
i 3 shot a titan across the HSU room in A1 with the sniper
so it was long ranged
grizzled ginkgo
i will note that due to the long range it took a moment for the bullets to hit
they actually blinded me between shots cuz of how much light they gave off
craggy pier
mhm
but still sniper is the weakest of all the weapons
like it can do well, but other weapons will outclass is
it*
grizzled ginkgo
idk its been super useful for me
only weapon ive found that can oneshot a scout from 10m+
and 3 shot a titan from 40+
grizzled ginkgo
meh i just take an smg
grizzled ginkgo
i just know ive found it far more useful than youโre letting on. as long as im a little conservative with my smg, i dont do badly in alarms
craggy pier
yeah because the other teammates are helping
im just saying
its probably at the bottom although all are viable
if it gets buffed then i would say it is good
unkempt ridge
can you two shot them with anything or is sniper unrivaled in per shot damage?
@grizzled ginkgo pump shotgun do higher damages (assuming you're close and the pellets hit)
you need 4+ ammos at least
tbh just play the sniper if you really like it
relying on SMG is fine for most of alarm doors
full sundial
nah, it is one of the worst weapons, but of course, it can still be useful
craggy pier
i said b to make everyone happy
full sundial
just a lot of other weapons/combos can do what the sniper can do better
full sundial
compared to the other weapons available, yes it is trash
but if no other weapons were available, it can do the job
only good use I have seen for it is for speed running, taking out a scout fast
full sundial
but if you aren't speed running, you can take the scout out with just a hammer
full sundial
a group did D1 in 12:30 or something around that with a sniper on one of them
craggy pier
too many enemies for 11 shots
full sundial
to take out the two scouts
craggy pier
ye
and in a group it can be mehhh
C
c = medicore
to bad
B is like Mg in a group, Cshotty
A is shotgun, the other ones i didnt mention
cshotty just is above average
and shotgun is great for later levels
cause it 1shots blackheads
hallow cedar
By any chance will consumable be stackable or recharged?
unkempt ridge
rating weapons like that is kinda non sense since they're all good at different domains Owo
By any chance will consumable be stackable or recharged?
@hallow cedar we're all praying for that
but can't know
oblique bramble
Hi guys, new player here. Is there any wiki/guide page I must read before starting?
craggy pier
here is the wiki
if you wanna read up on stuff, you dont have to
but its always good to know a few things before you start!
when you are ready to start go to
?T lfg
eager jacinthBOT
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craggy pier
what the bot says
oblique bramble
I just don't wanna be a burden to my new team, might as well start boot camp
craggy pier
and just say you are new
hehe
just watch a few videos, learn the basics
and go into A1 with a team or make the game
host* for people
there are many willing people to help new players
oblique bramble
Thanks, I'll read and watch basics first anyway
craggy pier
๐
oblique bramble
are there many people playing though? I like this game
oblique bramble
alright, thank you ๐
unkempt ridge
@oblique bramble don't worry about being a burden, everyone starts without the basics in A1, hopefully someone with some knowledge will join you to teach you some stuff, if not you will be with people at your level anyway, just precise you just bought the game :D
craggy pier
play the game solo haha, dont do that at all
oblique bramble
I might need to read up about weapons and equipment, my shooting skill is whimsical lol
unkempt ridge
I'd say the most basic knowledges are : sleepers detect light and sounds (crouching/uncrouching included), and stop moving completely (except your mouse) when a sleeper heartbeat
Some weapons are better for people having trouble to shoot and aim, like if you're bad at shooting then you can avoid DMR and Pistol until you feel comfier, and about your special weapon you can take one of both shotgun, you don't even need to always aim with them
oblique bramble
thanks, I'll keep that in mind. planning to use a shotgun for myself anyway, seems the area around the facility is quite tight
full sundial
When you get to B2 though, someone bringing a DMR would be a great help for you, most the sleepers in that expedition will be shooters, and the DMR can one-shot headshot them.
unkempt ridge
also theres friendly fire
rich mirage
with the bug that doesn't let some of the squad get completion, will we get completion or something to compensate when the bug is fixed?
full sundial
probably not
distant mesa
Are the people on early access getting a small or whatever discount on the full price of the game when it releases?
craggy pier
If you bought the early access you bought the game
no more fees to my knowledge
@distant mesa
mental comet
By purchasing it on Steam you now permanently have a license of the game, no re-purchase required, although additional cosmetics/dlc will likely be micro transactions
distant mesa
Oh my that's excellent news, thanks guys (I'm kinda new to pc gaming so I don't really know how early access works entirely)
craggy pier
Didn't devs say there will be no microtransactions?
mental comet
they said there is potential "support the dev" type content, but purely cosmetic, unless they have changed that statement
craggy pier
Which I'm definitely going to be doing lol
distant mesa
They said that depending on how the finances of the game go, they might add some cosmetics and stuff like that to support the devs, but no lootboxes, microtransactions or p2w stuff, it's on one of the other chats in here (ama answers I think)
mental comet
cosmetics are technically micro-transactions, it's just lootbox related crap they said they weren't doing
distant mesa
Exactly ๐
grizzled ginkgo
the real thing to ask is are they going to pull a bethesda and charge an arm and a leg for said cosmetics
hasty mauve
Probably more like a torso in gold!
๐ฐ๐ฐ
Naw, I mean,
The dev pack is not a granted, and only for those who want to support extra if we even do it :)
The plan with the character customization is to have it being earned or found in game ๐
grizzled ginkgo
was mostly joking
hasty mauve
I know ๐
grizzled ginkgo
you guys seem to be more sensible, factorio-type game-dev group
modest nest
Charging arm and leg 
That's actually a good idea,let there be arm and leg customization
hasty mauve
Thanks bud! @grizzled ginkgo
dire shale
I'd only buy gear customization if you add a pink unicorn helmet and gear with hello kitty on the back ๐ค ๐ ๐ how to break immersion 101
celest depot
can i use C foam gernades on doors?
stuck vale
Only one of the points
winged abyss
when is there going to be multiplayer
dapper belfry
sterile cliff
for alarms should you be trying to go and claim the spots asap? or should we clear out the enemies a bit before splitting up?
sterile cliff
how are you meant to survive? some of those spot leaves you really exposed
mental comet
kill the immediately engaged ones, once you have some breathing time, go for the alarms
best thing to do in a squad is to have shotgun turrets holding where the enemies will spawn from, if there's a door between them and the alarm door, c-foam it if possible
sterile cliff
foam the door itself or in front of it?
unkempt ridge
for alarms should you be trying to go and claim the spots asap? or should we clear out the enemies a bit before splitting up?
@sterile cliff claim the spots asap while clearing the path, no need to expose yourself if it's too risky
the door itself of course
sterile cliff
if they don't get through the door and you turn the alarm off do they de-spawn or something
unkempt ridge
no
they'll break the door anyway
sleepers don't despawn AFAIK
except maybe if they spawned too far away
barren grail
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dire shale
if they don't get through the door and you turn the alarm off do they de-spawn or something
@sterile cliff
If you finish the alarm there will be no more spawn but every monster from the wave (even from the spawn) will come to you until you killed them all
So do the alarm spot asap and then just survivre the current wave
Sometimes splitting (2 on alarms and 2 defending) can be very helpful depending on the area and your gear ๐
tired elk
Quick question? Does GTFO stand for Get The F*ck Out? I assume so, but just curious whether it's true.
full sundial
Yes it does
sturdy dew
?t gtfo
eager jacinthBOT
The game is called GTFO and it doesn't stand for "Get The Fuck Out" but rather the feeling you have that you want to complete The Warden's objective and GTFO.
unkempt ridge
this sentence confuses me
craggy pier
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grizzled ginkgo
its PR
they dont want to directly say it
cuz then the media
would fokkin take it and run
craggy pier
i mean any media acknowledgement is good stuff right?
like teens when thye hear the media trashtalking a video game will usually check it out to see what the game would be
grizzled ginkgo
apparently the devs dont think so xD
also, just take a look at fallout 76. they got a bunch of media coverage
craggy pier
yeah and people agreed the game was trash
its a mutual agreement if the media says a game is amazing or trash then people will check it out
if the people agree that the game is amazing then good on the devs
if they say its trash then welp game go byebye
but for a game that is quite new and still in v0.1 i do agree that it probably wouldnt be a good idea for them to do something that could destroy them
versed dock
I've heard some one say if you hit the 'giants' in the back you do more damage rather than the head . is that true?
toxic aurora
Don't think so.
versed dock
So , head is still the safest choice?
versed dock
I don't know the names of them , but are they the spikey heads?
toxic aurora
yep
versed dock
Ight thanks
unkempt ridge
how do you know that
vital sierra
TEST?
you can 1 shot scout with revolver
medium range
back of the head
and that just make sniper USELESS even more
vital sierra
ok
while at that
why don't you just
you know
hammer only
like the guy on reddit
solo B2 with bio and hammer only
unkempt ridge
what's the connection with the revolver ?
craggy pier
idk revolver is good
unkempt ridge
Alpha say it can
craggy pier
tbh if you blast a scouts head off but its still alive
unkempt ridge
so I ask for a proof so I can add it on the wiki
craggy pier
it should only wake the room
vital sierra
it can
it deal 48 damage
let me find a scout
you can only kill a scout in 1 shot
when you hit the back of it head
FUCK
maybe i should use the foam
for easy demonstration
full sundial
lmao
yeah, sniper still has the use of long range killing a scout, and not waking the room if far enough from the enemyies
enemies*
but other than that, the sniper is pretty trash
full sundial
don't really need to long range kill a scout when you can melee it
unless you aren't used to doing that yet, then the sniper makes things easier for dealing with scouts, but only helps you with scouts
which is justified, scouts are dangerous if not taken care of correctly
full sundial
yeah
regal pagoda
I know it's Overkill. But it's kind of satisfying shooting a sleeper in the face with a sniper even though It's a complete waste.
full sundial
I think making the sniper more effective at taking out big strikers/shooters would give it more utility
vital sierra
you have 3 bullets
full sundial
maybe if you land a headshot and two body shots, the big boys go down