I haven't played this game since last year Kappa haha had to ok goodnight
#gtfo-related-questions
craggy pier
ivory tiger
obey your bed time
ivory tiger
mine?
craggy pier
Yes my good fellow
ivory tiger
whats up?
craggy pier
Any way
ivory tiger
let me answer your problems
craggy pier
Ok
ivory tiger
what are ye confuzzled aboot?
craggy pier
Yeah fuck this im night night
craggy pier
Ok senpai
ivory tiger
call me what you want
craggy pier
The elder commands you
craggy pier
I disown you as my senpai
craggy pier
:(
ivory tiger
go back to your fucking broke ass apartment
craggy pier
:(
ivory tiger
NO U
craggy pier
You know DMs are there for a reason you two
craggy pier
Yes shush
ivory tiger
and you
craggy pier
Anyways
ivory tiger
fuck off to sleep
ivory tiger
i know
craggy pier
How kind of you
craggy pier
So I'll except breakfast ready tomorrow
ivory tiger
at least sober up mate
craggy pier
Your British ain't ya
craggy pier
Just go on a date already 👀
ivory tiger
RIP
craggy pier
You're to young for me
ivory tiger
Bonx
craggy pier
Wait
ivory tiger
me? mentally, 6
craggy pier
Well shit
ivory tiger
no
craggy pier
Hoe
craggy pier
HOE
craggy pier
U fucking broke peasant nibba
Objectifying woman in 2020 what a shame goodnight you two hooligans
Whore
craggy pier
squares up
craggy pier
Bitch
craggy pier
Im democracy
ivory tiger
PFFFFFFT
craggy pier
punch the balls
craggy pier
Fair enough
ivory tiger
Australia is the hottest country in the world
craggy pier
This be my sixth attempt
ivory tiger
GO 2 SLEEP
craggy pier
Ok prostitute
steady adder
So I am planning on purchasing the game, but I have nobody to play it with. Do people here in this discord actively seek out other players to play with?
craggy pier
Yes
ivory tiger
DM me if you want a game
ivory tiger
yeah its almost 11 PM here so i'm chilling for the night
craggy pier
And it's gunna be 4am
steady adder
Alright, thanks I will keep that in mind. 5:50AM for me, about to go to the airport to drop off my girl, I will probably check out the game tomorrow or later today.
ivory tiger
alright, sounds good
craggy pier
U could watch gameplays as well
ivory tiger
^
steady adder
Hopefully it's as good as I think it will be, been looking forward to this game since it first came out.
craggy pier
It is
ivory tiger
trust me, its fucking great
ivory tiger
its v0.1
craggy pier
It's a fucking blast
ivory tiger
its very good for early access
craggy pier
Yeah just don't be a dude and go in gun blazing
Get it
Because we dudes always do that
craggy pier
Yes we do
ivory tiger
but i aint trigger happy
craggy pier
hands out dildo vibrator
steady adder
Dw i'll be good with my trigger finger XD
craggy pier
chases with vibrator
craggy pier
Trigger finger frenzy
craggy pier
Noo
steady adder
4 mins from finishing the download, I'll see you guys later, thanks for the time.
ivory tiger
no problem Rin
raw lava
@steady adder Check out the Looking for Group section!
pearl cairn
how does cfoam work cause a giant unstuck itself and span and downed 2 of us when we tried to bonk it
vital sierra
time
pearl cairn
does every bubble extend it?
pearl cairn
ah
vital sierra
i could be wrong about big boi, could be 15
but you wouldn't just use the c foam launcher or grenade on them
too wasteful
smoky citrus
Is there any randomness to how "deep" sleepers sleep? I swear for last few days we are trying to figure out any kind of patern to their behaviour and nothing we test makes sense. Sometimes they are close by and stretching and ignore kill nearby, sometime they are backwards, far away (>6 meters) and still wake up when they were assleep during a kill. Loosing runs to that is annoying and After few days I still don't know if it is something we are doing wrong, or is it some random element, or is it lag/desync?
tight stirrup
@smoky citrus it likely that they were about to wake up but bad timing and as for range i have no fucking clue
smoky citrus
what do you mena about to wake up, we almost always make sure they are actually asleep, even time it so that thy were just going back to sleep to meke sure we wont hit start of waking up animation, we make sure to not move before and after the hit to not trigger the "yawn". and still sometimes some random guy rather far away wakes up completely.
tight stirrup
@smoky citrus then idk it seems random ive seen things trigger from farther away and its kinda stupid it should be intuitive
smoky citrus
I am close to giving up till this gets explained or fixed. Running C2 with 2 people is nightmarish where an hour in, someone randomly wakes up and destroys your run.
tight stirrup
@smoky citrus b2 myself
smoky citrus
I am ok with it when I know I made a mistake, but when after an hour I lose a run and I don;t know why it takes my motivation away 😦
tight stirrup
@smoky citrus what the fuck is up with how some trigger like a mile away then you smack 1 touching another oh thats fine i sleep
smoky citrus
had that happen few times, I assume this particular one is a bug but without dev confiramtion it is hard to tell.
I wish we could seed a run for test purposes and experiment on the same enemy setup
tight stirrup
@smoky citrus i love how this game is supposed to be hardcore but it just feels inconsistent at best
@smoky citrus i hope there bugs if this how supposed to work i will turn the devs faces into 1s and 0s
smoky citrus
are synchronized kills potentially louder than 2 separate ones? Is it possible to stack 3 sounds so that the sleeper wakes up?
I noticed that after shinig light on them (and turning it off) they will first "yawn" and after a second start beating even if noone is moving and lighting them up, so does that mean that he is in beating statet but the animations are just playing in order hiding true state?
tight stirrup
im a little confused on the true state part but it restarts the heart beat timer so you can sync enemys that way also 4 kills makes 4 individul sounds that dont stack @smoky citrus
craggy pier
qc : is the early access for gtfo on steam for a limited time?
tight stirrup
@craggy pier ideally yes hopefully the game will leave early access
craggy pier
@tight stirrup Thanks
had a few days , love it so was going to gift copy's to mates if they were taking it off 🙂
tight stirrup
ok ? i was being sarcastic but it seems i accidentally understood you @craggy pier
craggy pier
@tight stirrup well that went straight over my head XD
@tight stirrup but thanks for replying 🙂
manic tiger
?t lfg
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modern mango
I have a question about the game, I'm kinda interested in buying it but trying to be as informed as possible before spending $$. How much content is there currently in the game, like assuming 4 average people were to play this how much time could we put in it to "finish" it? Assuming we dont quit if we fail ofc because from what I gather the game is quite hard :P
desert yoke
Between 30-60h?
manic tiger
I have 40 in it so far
and the missions will be rotating out, keeping content fresh
so even if you clear this series of missions, more will be coming
modern mango
oooh thats pretty good, is it like a campaign or just lots of missions that arent necessarely 1 linear story line?
desert yoke
They will change the Levels Regularly
static citrus
95 hours. Still having fun.
manic tiger
when they start focusing on lore presentation, lore will be gleaned by paying attention to things in missions and terminals I believe
not to mention obligatory solo runs and exploratory stealthing
static citrus
Solo runs aren't obligatory.
manic tiger
facepalms
static citrus
manic tiger
The implication being that people will try, they're not neccesary
modern mango
thanks guys, one last question the game is difficult obviously but how is it made difficult, like are enemies just super tanky or is it because you have to intellegently use your resources?
static citrus
I haven't picked on you since last year.
manic tiger
they're not tanky, except titans
modern mango
because I hate bullet sponge "high difficulty" because its just lazy
manic tiger
it's more getting overwhelmed and not keeping your cool that will kill you
static citrus
Large strikers eat your bullets.
Yeah, Calibre is right. Also, hordes eat your bullets at alarm doors.
manic tiger
but you will have enough bullets to spare, so long as you play smart
static citrus
If you're good at timing you can beat down the large ones with hammers.
modern mango
Yeah its fine that certain types take more that makes sense but the difficulty is more than "more and tankier enemies" am I correct in thinking that?
manic tiger
A run in this game can be doomed at a point in a mission before it's obvious
for example, you alert every room, every scout
you had enough bullets to kill them, yes, but you wasted them on those mobs... now you're empty at the end
modern mango
ah I see, thanks for answering my questions guys will definitely help in making the decision to buy it or not. Leaning towards buying it right now 😄
manic tiger
the 10% off ends on the 3rd i believe
tired burrow
for $30 usd, the game is worth playing in its current state. 6 levels so far , hand crafted by the devs.
desert yoke
and hours of fun
tired burrow
and a goofy community i have come to call friends
manic tiger
there have been quite a few early access games I've gotten that have turned out to be vastly better investments than many AAA full releases, at half the cost
tired burrow
bf 2 was better, jetpack trooper for life
slate sinew
gamestop returns for like 2 cents tho lol
gray cipher
i returned advanced warfare & that to this date is the only game i returned
ivory blaze
Hey, how do you solo alarm doors? I'm struggling 😦
clear wing
spice wasp
Looking for Group
spice wasp
LF(Number) means looking for # of people
tired burrow
@ivory blaze you need to kite and typically use mines
ivory blaze
ty!
shadow mica
Do you need more than one person to stealth kill a scout?
manic tiger
if you miss...
tired burrow
-incoming horde-
manic tiger
main problem I have with the juxtaposition of the game's rating compared to SFW desire in discord... is the game sets you up for so many things I could decribe as <deleted>
manic tiger
yeah
tired burrow
i think your just seeing the large community diversity
censoring to many emotes or certain other things
is a byproduct
magic prism
salut des fr pour un gtfo en b1 ?
static citrus
#lfg-eastern-europe Essayez de trouver une équipe dans cette salle.
tired burrow
@static citrus parle vous english pour moi s'il vous plait... ( did i even spell that right?)
i dont think i remember high school french anymore -doh- 🤦
slate sinew
Is it intended that people who haven't done A1 can join on B2?
static citrus
Yeah, you can join anything anyone's hosting.
slate sinew
Okay you just need to have it unlocked to host it
tired burrow
@static citrus im just being funny thats all no sorry required
static citrus
Oh! Okay. XD Sorry about that! I'm a bit tired.
😴
torn gale
is there a way to kill a scout before it screams?
tired burrow
c-foam, headshot with sniper, hammer it in the head with a full charge, while its moving carefully
3 ways
sorry 4,mines... but its risky
torn gale
does the c foam stop it from screaming?
harsh dagger
if u toss a c foam grenade on it mid scream it will stop it
c foam launcher probably possible too but you would need to time it early
tired burrow
grenade to chest or full charge foam to chest, assuming the gun doesn't miss will freezes it long enoigh to hammer it in the head
rain inlet
how do you make a suggestions
rain inlet
thx
ivory tiger
np
silent flower
me and friends are having trouble with b2. we got 3 sentries and 1 biotracker, we are all running pistols and shotguns with one sniper
ivory tiger
ditch the bio
swap it for a sentry, and make sure all sentries are shotguns
try and stealth as much of B2 as possible, and avoid Zone 19 as it is not needed to go in there
lavish kindle
dont think you need a sniper - scouts are pretty rare in B2 from memory
1 or 2 at max
fleet grotto
I've heard about an enemy who hangs from the ceiling but can't find anything online? Anyone know anything about it, if it even exists?
tired burrow
not in game atm
ivory tiger
i always carry a sniper no matter what
it one shots a scout, and scouts usually spawn at least once on every map (that i know of except C1)
and if not, you can pick off enemies from a distance and take down giants pretty quick
manic tiger
unless it's C1 or you're alerting every single room, one person with a sniper is never an issue for ammo
tired burrow
sniperr is useful on giants
ivory tiger
how is the sniper bad? explain?
it 1-2 shots anything
and with 11 shots
thats 3-4 big guys dead, or 11 small guys
and if your unlucky enough, 11 scouts
tired burrow
generally people dont like sniper... it is niche... and must saved for key enemies when possible
people will gravitate to rapid fire and high ammo wpns for saftey
i like it. but only has a 1 of
ivory tiger
i've got a lot of trigger discipline and i know what targets to pick, i know where to shoot them
ivory tiger
i know good areas with good sight lines
tired burrow
it might if given penetration
ivory tiger
have you played C1?
ivory tiger
have you played C1?
craggy pier
so it can take more than 3 hits to kill
tired burrow
sniper on giants on limbs is more effective than shotgun
craggy pier
IVE TESTED IT
tired burrow
using shotgun at torso wastes ammo and invites the snake atrack
ivory tiger
^
tired burrow
it will kill them fast sure limbs or no limbs...
craggy pier
sniper wastes too much ammo
ivory tiger
dude
tired burrow
shoot legs
craggy pier
it runs dry quick
ivory tiger
your talking to someone who has MAINED the sniper the whole game
i think i know how to fucking use it
tired burrow
giants are about limbs
craggy pier
zhatka it does its job
ivory tiger
very rarely do i find myself out of ammo on it
craggy pier
and also sniper cannot be used on alarms effectivly
craggy pier
yeah but kill 50 enemies chasing you with it
ivory tiger
a shotgun cant snipe
craggy pier
shotgun can killa group
ivory tiger
dude
tired burrow
all you guys are saying now is player preference
ivory tiger
your taking this one sided
craggy pier
ive tried every hecking weapon
ivory tiger
and let me type
manic tiger
I feel this may be a mild waste of time
craggy pier
hm?
manic tiger
can you confirm that mines go off without issue on the D1 boys?
like no matter where you put them
manic tiger
you know how sentries can get spoofed
tired burrow
dont mines need foam to see invis
tired burrow
like turrets
manic tiger
but if you don't will mines go off?
craggy pier
yeah
tired burrow
to turrets?
manic tiger
turrets won't as far as I've seen
craggy pier
im unsure about turrets
tired burrow
they woll with foam
craggy pier
but i thinnk so
manic tiger
that's why you saturate the door with foam grenades in front of the turrets
tired burrow
ive seen video
foam works if they frezze
or get it on them
once rhey breach no good
i haven't bear d1 yet
tired burrow
fair
ivory tiger
second worst gun imho
its just, to low on ammo for its job
yes, its designed to clear hordes
but it goes through that ammo in seconds
craggy pier
atleast people can solo levels with it 🤣
ivory tiger
fuck your immature
craggy pier
ah yes of course i am
ivory tiger
i did not say that either
tired burrow
so ludvig hinted mg is not mg and more like ar
ivory tiger
^
tired burrow
meaning likely patched
tired burrow
mg is dumb in current form. useable. functional bit dumb
craggy pier
hmm myes
tired burrow
sniper is most niche
manic tiger
shush
tired burrow
NO MORE SNIPER TALK LOL
craggy pier
mg in its current form is very good
tired burrow
@manic tiger what DO you want
manic tiger
I don't even care what it does
craggy pier
you gotta use it good
tired burrow
yeah that room scanner is sick
tired burrow
ots super cool to map a room
manic tiger
was it farfield?
ivory tiger
@craggy pier it goes through ammo extremely quickly, but its damage is fine. its mostly the ammo that lets it down
thats the sole reason i dislike it
craggy pier
it takes 1-2 shots per enemy
manic tiger
fifield*
craggy pier
you dont spam it
ivory tiger
its a machine gun
craggy pier
you pew, charge pew
tired burrow
@manic tiger do you know what the room mappkng tool was called?
tired burrow
in alpha they had mines you could place by hand too
manic tiger
what would be cool is a razor wire we can string across somewhere that cuts a number of enemies who run through it, crippling them
tired burrow
they wont do aoe
craggy pier
and it plopped
craggy pier
wire is also an aoe
manic tiger
foam is an AOE
tired burrow
foam doesnt kill
craggy pier
yeah ^
manic tiger
didn't say it'd kill them, cripple and slow yes, though
craggy pier
cripple is already foam tho
manic tiger
but it's not specifically slow
craggy pier
😈
tired burrow
lol
loud stream
so in c2 what is behind the door to z100. i have the key and the door MAKES ME want to open it because it looks different/really important(like there's a BFG in there) but if its nothing different then I wont waste the resources and just win.
craggy pier
i think behind z100 is the exit?
tired burrow
|| its an xfil spot||
loud stream
really?
craggy pier
ye
loud stream
like we dont got back to the beginning
tired burrow
correct
loud stream
well shoot
tired burrow
risk vrs reward
craggy pier
its a alarm door that leads to xfil
loud stream
alright thx lol
craggy pier
👋
craggy pier
😈
actually that door was easy for my team
i chose the right weapon
shotty 1 shots the special bois
blackheads
loud stream
ah good to know
just realized you can one shot blackheads with a melee to the back of the head
we were two hitting to be safe
craggy pier
or the back
loud stream
we've been three manning them cause our 4th is being dumb
craggy pier
yeah that was with me too
loud stream
any idea if z90 vs z99 is an easier alarm
craggy pier
they =
but
use the terminal! it can tell you whats in both room
and query can tell you the charges of the items!
do list tool_refill (roomname)
as an example
loud stream
i gotcha there i was looking for the last decoder we need
loud stream
see which has better supplies for after
loud stream
oh thats handy
craggy pier
yes!
loud stream
can i do a list for just a specific zone?
ivory tiger
yeah
craggy pier
yeah
ivory tiger
do list zone_(number)
ivory tiger
that only lists certain items tho
craggy pier
yeah
ivory tiger
so its slower
ivory tiger
if its a specific item, then yes
craggy pier
just giving him more options
ivory tiger
but i prefer to get a list of all items so i know what is in there in total
instead of just looking for ammo packs
i can see if there are ammo packs, med packs, and tool refills
and how many there are
plus it also shows C-Foam grenades, glowsticks, etc.
loud stream
all super handy because i've just been querying one by one for everything and writing down stuff on a pad of paper lol
ivory tiger
very slow
its just better to get the full list imo
it allows you to do the same thing
but much faster
it also makes pinging items much easier
loud stream
yes thanks
tired burrow
do list zone_34 (item name)
loud stream
ok that was rough. first go we made it to extraction at least
ivory tiger
if you dont use the zone part, it brings up every item of that type across the entire map
loud stream
thx for the help with the terminal tho
makes it super easy now to query a whole zone
ivory tiger
np
craggy pier
nP
hallow cairn
why did they let us break through doors?
like whats the tactical advantage of doing s
doing so*
craggy pier
its more a freindly fire type thing, it was most likely easier for them to say anyone/anything can hurt doors. an example of this would be mines, mines if you place enough can blow up doors. this is a guess tho
craggy pier
yeah
hallow cairn
it was an entertaining moment beating a door and finding 20 people but yea
craggy pier
it was most likely easier for them to say anything can hurt door
than code each individual item into a doors health
or
hallow cairn
fair
craggy pier
it could just be incase a door gets stuck
for future items
but honestly those are guesses
ocean tree
Its for reinforced doors I believe? They cannot open
cloud root
Which is the hardest level ?
craggy pier
d1 or c2
dusky socket
as you get lower down in the levels (A1 --> D1) does it get harder?
desert yoke
yes
dusky socket
nice
craggy pier
Does anyone know how elevation effects detection?
craggy pier
do the amount of enemies scale with the amount of players
or is it always the same amount if you're going alone or in full squad
Its same
rapid crest
As far as I can tell DK detection is almost always sight based so if there is holes in the floor or it's a grate type of walk way it's usually more dangerous to walk on those cause you can still set them off if they are close enough. Same with if they are lit up below and you executed one up on the boardwalk. This is just from my experience
craggy pier
Yea I had the same experiences with the walkways with holes but it seems inconsistent
Seemed like in the earlier levels enemies below/above got alerted a lot more than in later levels
Just wanted to see what other people have been experiencing to better approach rooms with multiple levels
shadow mica
does anyone know the most consistent strat for the final alarm in c2?
desert yoke
Don't die 🤔
craggy pier
4Head
shadow mica
im serious lol
every time I do c2, I nearly always wipe just because of that last door. wonder if there is a better way of doing it
craggy pier
Iirc my team did 2 shotgun sentry 1 cfoam launcher 1 biotracker, biotracker is just a luxury thing tho
Best approach is probably 3 shotgun sentry 1 cfoam or 4 shotgun sentry
desert yoke
biotracker not necessary in C2.
craggy pier
Ye
shadow mica
would it be necessary to have at least one person defend the entrance the spiky dudes come from? seems like the turrets aren't that effective against them
desert yoke
just do the sec-checks as fast as possible
craggy pier
^ye we did that lol
Just scrambled to do checks while fending them off
You pretty much always want all 4 people doing the security checks all the time
To get them done asap
shadow mica
hmm alright
dim drum
You can face the sentries inwards so they shoot them in the back after they run by.
rapid crest
C2 besides being ridiculously long has been an easier map in my experience. For the final security check we had 2 turrets and mines around the room and only one guy went down cause he sacrificed himself as the last wave was chasing us xD
desert yoke
C2 isn't long if you ignore the pointless paths...
fringe violet
Console port planned?
fringe violet
So just gotta get it on pc for now, okay. Ty
desert yoke
"5) Will GTFO come to platforms other than PC? (E.g. XBOX, PS4, Switch, Linux)
GTFO will come to PC first. The development team is too small to pull off a simultaneous multi-platform release. If the PC version is successful enough, that would give us an opportunity to put GTFO out on other platforms as well, which we’d love to do!"
official answer :D
fringe violet
Sounds reasonable
rapid crest
I mean even went just looking for decoders with the terminal it's been long for me. Where as everyone was telling me D1 is long and I think my group did it pretty quickly and not in 2 hours
desert yoke
i played C2 4 or 5 times. There are many rooms you can ignore :D
rapid crest
I mean a lot of the levels are like that. Terminal management can make your run easier
desert yoke
exactly.
manic tiger
Also realizing that you don't have to obsessively kill everything you see
tired burrow
let the turrets carry the load at choke points. have one player sentry during alarm doors who can support the turrets, thrn fall back to cover the team, in the meantime the team csn get the circles asap
median cipher
Are some guns better than others? I don't see any real progression system. How balanced are they?
tired burrow
mg is pretty niche, sniper is good but niche
everything else is viable as long as the team has variety
progress and customization is planned
on the roadmap
median cipher
So for someone who isn't trying to fill a specific role or niche you'd just reccomend AR or pistol, then? With maybe a shotgun?
tired burrow
imo... smg pistol
smg carries more overall ammo but does less dmg than ar.
er i meant revolver
2ndary
if you go pistol, then cmbt shotty for sure
other shotty is good but carries less overall ammo
ar shotty is also good
depends on how you engage.
wide mica
I like having at least one gun that pops them instantly. I can't tell if the revolver or the DMR is better for that job, though
median cipher
So SMG and revolver.
compact garnet
I like pistol more than smg
wide mica
why do people prefer the SMG over the AR?
median cipher
No sense shooting bigger bullets if you have no bullets.
compact garnet
^
wide mica
fair enough
wide mica
I used to think the shotguns were the prime close-quarters weapons, but I feel like it's better to have a faster shooting gun that you can just flail around when a big group is near you
compact garnet
i like combat shotgun + pistol
shotgun can deal a lot of damage to a group quickly
pistol is good when you dont have a whole lot of them
wide mica
how many shots from the pistol does it take to kill them?
compact garnet
not many
especially if you get headshots
id say like 3 is pretty consistent
also the pistol has the most ammo by far
SMG has more ammo in terms of bullets, but pistol has more ammo in terms of how fst you go through it
craggy pier
Pistol and smg are both top tier imo
tired burrow
most people will want rapid fire and spread guns... but you dont always need those
many alarm doors have wide areas to kite in
wide mica
if we pretend like I have really good aim, would SMG - Revolver be a decent loadout?
tired burrow
yes
wide mica
sick
tired burrow
just dont have a team of pistols and snipers and you'll be ok
wide mica
fair enough
craggy pier
Sniper 🤢
wide mica
and then what about scouts? some people are saying that the sniper is the way to take them out, but other people are saying the way to kill them is to use the c-foam launcher and then melee them
craggy pier
Well if you dont mind alerting the room then yea I guess you could just 1 tap a scout to the head
But you can also do that with patience and a melee weapon and continue stealth
compact garnet
Sniper is good at killing scouts, but you alert the room. C-Foam can freeze then after the room is dead, and then you can just kill them
also
mine deployer currently doesnt alert people
just place a mine, kill the scout
then continue stealth
this will probably be patched out
craggy pier
Sniper needs a buff tbh
craggy pier
Yea i was thinking the same lol would be good enough to use then
compact garnet
thats what i thought it would do
1 shot giants
but its like 2-3 shots
and you have 5 shots to start..
craggy pier
If the devs ever implemented any type of silencer it would also buff the sniper really hard cause you could take out scouts silently from a distance
compact garnet
I think a silencer would break the game
craggy pier
Well if you start the expedition with it yea of course
Would take all difficulty out
The only balanced way of implementing it would be a limited use one like 5 shots ans you have to find it/craft it
compact garnet
now, if they implemented a silencer where it just made it so that only really far away enemies couldnt here it
id be down
or a consumable like you said
I like that actually
craggy pier
I think a limited use one where its a very low amount of shots would be the way to go
compact garnet
id say 1-5 usues
craggy pier
Cause it makes you choose a situation where it’d be best suited
But i doubt they’ll ever implement one and im fine with it tbh
compact garnet
same
craggy pier
The only times I ever feel like I need one is when RNG spawns fuck me and theres like 4 clustered together lmao
wide mica
could be cool for them to add perks to the character loadout as well
compact garnet
you can deal with those pretty easy actuall
craggy pier
Eh
compact garnet
with multiple people especially
compact garnet
you can kill 2 of them without alerting the room
3 people can handle a group of 6 with coordination
also
you dont need to kill them
wide mica
yeah
craggy pier
Cuz anything big could just ruin the games difficulty
compact garnet
small customizations would be nice
I do think the game needs a little something more for replayability
craggy pier
The games actually more difficult to add things to/balance than other games imo
compact garnet
but since its early access, im fine with that
desert yoke
they will add stuff like thaz
craggy pier
I mean they have a lot planned
wide mica
like "Light Step - reduce range enemies can hear you from by 25%"
or something like that
craggy pier
They have a whole list of stuff they wanna implement in the early access
compact garnet
thats too good imo @wide mica
wide mica
I mean like the range that they hear you moving from when they light up
craggy pier
#game-announcements has the early access roadmap
compact garnet
Id like a penalty for failing hacks
not a really tight one
like "1 fail alert the room"
but something minor
since hacking has 0 purpose rn
wide mica
could have containers with slightly better loot that have the harder/riskier hacks
could also be some kind of risky hack/minigame with the terminals to give you some sort of information benefit
median cipher
I think it'd just be better to have a good hack reward you than a bad one screw you. The main issue is just making it make sense within the world of the game.
Like a little proximity alarm going off on a failed hack makes sense, but would be really annoying and obnoxious - especially if you've already cleared the room and have to sit through the 'bwoop bwoop bwoop' every time you fail
manic tiger
One thing I proposed was a storage rack you need to hack to get it to open/lower the shelf, what you're essentially doing is overriding the servos to make it move. Flubbing a hack misaligns them and makes a loud metal screech, alerting any sleepers in the room
desert yoke
that's what i suggested :D
tired burrow
locked lockers make a noise so employees dont steal from eachother
tired burrow
or to limit access to non-essential personnel
median cipher
The door opening not alerting them has always bothered me since it's so god damn loud
But again, it'd make it really annoying when you just open up into a room and suddenly alert it just for opening the door.
wide mica
I know they all glow after you open a door, so I guess they register that it opened
desert yoke
true :D
compact garnet
mine not alerting them is just funny
wide mica
but I guess they somehow know it isn't human so they don't care
median cipher
I rationalized it as them just hearing it happen all the time
Like "oh it's a facility noise"
"Not a person noise"
manic tiger
Yeah
Like a deer in a forest near a road knows that cars on the highway mean no harm, a twig snapping on the other hand ...
desert yoke
if they are people that worked there, they may remember the sound. And the "infection" just isn't bothered by random noise
i mean they don't get bothered by the facility light either
and we should move that to #gtfo-lore :D
wide mica
might be nice to include some sort of once-use distraction device that they're momentarily attracted to when it gets used
but that might be too broken
median cipher
If it were possible to code them never being in facility light I'd probably push for that.
wide mica
just having them all group up and then using a mine on them or something
median cipher
Since they are bothered by light.
Idk if the spawn and lighting engine can work together like that tho
Sounds real difficult
Like you'd have to handplace spawns w/ lighting in mind which is just gross
craggy pier
Yea lol
desert yoke
but it would be boring to look at
median cipher
Yeah not nearly as cinematic.
desert yoke
they said "we want a game that is colorful" (something around these lines)
median cipher
I think silhouettes are more cinematic than them being in direct light tho.
And you can get that w/o them being in direct light.
It's good as is. It just needs an explanation and idt we have one.
desert yoke
i mean. Ludvig is always watching and taking notes >:D
wide mica
here's a question: on C1, do you think it's worth it to put mines on the wall above the height of a normal enemy, so that only the big ones trigger the mine when they walk by?
manic tiger
Same thing as the sound. A known element in an environment is discounted as commonplace and inert. Anything which breaks that monotony will be seen as a threat
wide mica
or do you think having the mine launcher on C1 is basically a waste of a slot that could go to a sentry?
manic tiger
So lights aren't necessarily aggravating to a sleeper, but an unexpected light would be
craggy pier
I mean the whole premise of using the mine deployer is having them all grouped up then 1 mine takes out a shit ton of enemies
desert yoke
@wide mica Sentries work best, but never bad to try out something different ^^
craggy pier
And you do that by making them all group behind a cfoamed door
desert yoke
Cfoam plus Mines can be so op
craggy pier
Which isn’t viable in c1
wide mica
yeah, I'm basically thinking of ways to take out the big ones before they get close and cause a problem/soak up a bunch of ammo
desert yoke
everything is viable.
you just need to make it viable ;)
people said it's impossible to Solo D1... and then there was Sparthan :D
craggy pier
I’d say C1 is harder to solo than d1 lol
median cipher
All of them are hard to solo :^)
desert yoke
lemme check
desert yoke
no shame on that :D
craggy pier
its possible
manic tiger
Use an exploit, 'completed' box remains unchecked, regardless of if it seems to be
proper leaf
Lads, anyone know if there's a roadmap or something I can view for things to look forward to? Particularly interested in customisation, maybe even character voices for idle chatter or gun customisation (No silencers of course but maybe let me toggle fire modes on the assault rifle XD)
lilac fulcrum
?t roadmap
eager jacinthBOT
You can view the roadmap here: https://gtfothegame.com/roadmap/
lilac fulcrum
@proper leaf
proper leaf
Ty dude
Doc, have they announced anything that they're specifically working on currently? Or do I find that info on Steam/Patch notes on Discord
(just cause it states that they will announce things as they work on them instead of giving dates)
desert yoke
Normally they announce things they release.
desert yoke
yeah they don't want to give any feature a release date as it says in the roadmap ^^
(fineprint) :P
"we will not promise specific dates for the backlog items but rather move them into production when it's time."
proper leaf
AH, I misunderstood that as "We will tell you when we start working on them"
desert yoke
yeah, even if they working on something, it may not be ready for release so if something goes wrong they just can work on it ^^
if they put release dates on stuff people will ask for it all the time. So they don't have to pressure themselves (atleast that's how i understand this)
lilac fulcrum
Right now they are working on bug fixes, the next rundown. I can't speak for anything else at the moment @proper leaf. Announcements will be via #game-announcements when there are some of the #become-an-ambassador email for major game info.
proper leaf
Cheers dude
craggy pier
heyo! a friend of mine was thinking about getting this game and i had a few questions before we jump in
desert yoke
ok ^^
craggy pier
thanks! i was wondering how many missions there are and what kind of unlock / customization system is there as far as progression
proper leaf
6 Missions currently, no progression thus far but planned for the future
#StoleYourJob :^)
desert yoke
yeah you took the short answer xD
craggy pier
hahaha quick on the drawwww
craggy pier
so do we get to pick any weapons and mods or do we find them in game
proper leaf
Character customisation, rewards for each expedition (not sure about completed vs failed), weapon customisation, etc.
desert yoke
you can choose stuff
proper leaf
Yeah I'm lazy
craggy pier
that's pretty cool then, i saw some interesting looking guns in the trailers
desert yoke
i mean...
the one trailer is old
and be warned!
the game is not super action packed
craggy pier
my last question would be about how many hours do you think you'll get out of this game? with 6 missions probably not much?
ahh, some things in the trailer may not be in the game
desert yoke
you need patience
proper leaf
Also Zerker, there are loadouts for each player, you can see what eachother has at ALL times and build your team around a specific setup assuming they're cool with synergising. 2 weapon slots (One for main weapon, one for special), 1 "TOOL" and 1 Melee weapon (All melee weapons are the same, but the sledge is best and anyone who says otherwise is wrong)
desert yoke
around 30-60+ hours
craggy pier
jesus 30-60 hours with just 6 missions that's insane
desert yoke
yeah you will fail them often :'D
proper leaf
Also Zerker, in the 9 hours I have played, I have finished the first two missions. Just think about that 
desert yoke
The devs are on this Server as well
proper leaf
I can't even tell you how FRUSTRATING B2 IS REEE
craggy pier
Can we make some suggections cause of story/plot (cause there are non at the moment) ?
vestal crow
I've got 6h with 2completed and 5or so fails
proper leaf
Apparently there is a story.
magic prism
des fr ?
desert yoke
?t lfg
eager jacinthBOT
Hello! If you are unaware, we have Looking For Group (LFG) channels to help users group up and play the game. They are located here: #lfg-north-america / #lfg-latin-america / #lfg-eastern-europe / #lfg-asia / #lfg-oceania.
If you are unsure of how to create or join a lobby, please see the instructions here: #how-to-matchmake
desert yoke
there you find players ^^
proper leaf
Like the ol cinematic kinda dealio trailer, seemed like story mode is a thing with the narrator, voiced characters, etc. But I assume that would be a final release thing