not if the game doesn't function yet, so just give them time
#gtfo-related-questions
pale tapir
yeah just wait a bit
kind trail
literally one to two months away
stray drift
İll waiting for a year ❤
coral comet
just like the rest of us :)
stray drift
beta us enough😂
and a highly recommended game broadcasting will be a focus of interest, especially if the steam broadcast @blissful dove
coral comet
just typing it here is enough, you dont have to tag him each time xd
timid compass
^
stray drift
this is important :)
coral comet
so is other stuff
mint locust
going off topic
coral comet
not even but K
rapid dock
As far as I know the devs encourage creators to broadcast during the BETA or the final game.
mint locust
The more people share the game, the better.
rapid dock
Whatever platform.
stray drift
Yeah
rose basalt
I don't think I understood the question right, but are you saying that they should be streaming the game all the time?
coarse spire
24/7*
rose basalt
...but why
rapid dock
I think daily streams will be enough, besides its really up to the creators.
stray drift
I think this is necessary to be recognized and the center of attention
coral comet
it will get streamed on multiple platforms by anyone who wants to, when the beta goes live
rose basalt
The devs will already encourage content creators to make videos and stream the game including during the beta. I guess they could also do streams themselves but it wouldn't get them as much attention as the former.
stray drift
I just said my idea it makes sense to me from this :)
kind trail
I'm just avoiding this server untill i can stream the game tbh
worn trail
How about having a content creator stream and have some dev's commenting on it. Like screen shared or y'know how they sit in a room and drop tidbits of info and trivia.
That way you can maybe do different cfeatoda (creators, sorry very sleeps at 6am)
willow shoal
Pretty sure the devs have plans to drop by streams that they know about or find in the wild. At least, I think that’s the plan when the time comes...
mystic sinew
can you name the approximate price for the game?
coral comet
We're expecting somewhere between 30-45$
mystic sinew
will there be differebt editions like deluxe or digital deluxe?
coral comet
Nope
mystic sinew
good
hard oracle
when beta starts?
hard oracle
yeah
rapid dock
Unless you think Spring starts at March 20th
coral comet
it does
rapid dock
Im sure the game will release before the end of May
hard oracle
hope we!
coarse spire
is pug somehow still denying spring starts on 03/20?
coral comet
yep
rapid dock
Because March, April and May are the Spring months
mint locust
One music line less.
hard oracle
yeah but it starts at 20 of march
coral comet
The astronomical spring begins on 20 March 2019 and ends on 21 June 2019. The astronomical calendar determines the seasons due to the 23.5 degree tilt of the Earth's rotational axis in relation to its orbit around the sun.
suck it pug
hard oracle
hope we that the beta starts early
rapid dock
Alright
mental relic
Beta starts... Soon™
undone onyx
@coral comet😂
coral comet
xD
hoary wren
Hello
sand juniper
ready for BETA
rapid dock
If you signed up for the BETA key then you are.
slow zinc
how do the sign up be of do?
mint locust
Newsletter sign website on.
coral comet
No beta yet
kind trail
Quick question, about how long will the game be in beta?
Or at least a general time frame for what you guys are expecting.
kind trail
About 2 weeks?
mint locust
2 Weeks is rather long for a beta.
narrow kettle
I'd assume a weekend or a week at max
narrow kettle
Keep in mind that the beta is not going to be for people to get early access and enjoy the gameplay
It will be for testing
slow zinc
I want to break the game 
mint locust
Not really a question 🤔
narrow kettle
It was a comment related to the question.
mint locust
Ah
slow zinc
Sorry 
rapid dock
Are you guys releasing the game in meteorological spring or astronomical spring?
As of the "end of the road" is May31st or June21st?
mint locust
This spring.
blissful dove
You've misunderstood the expression completely.
We're releasing the game via a spring loaded catapult.
coral comet
:O
rapid dock
Oooohhh
royal stream
Daaaaaaaaaamn son!
thorny bobcat
Something something trebuchet superior siege weapon
willow shoal
I’d prefer a spring loaded trebuchet, but a catapult is cool, too. I mean, a trebuchet can accomplish the same task while taking up to 30% less space.
... and I’m off for the Catapult vs Trebuchet studies. This could take a while.
spring robin
This conversation definitely already happened so I apologize for repeating the question:
I know TC is avoiding micro-transactions n' all that. But in the future, will cosmetics be a thing? I'm an advocate for supporting devs and also having sick new pants in game (I'm not talking about weapon skins ew).
coral comet
@spring robin We're not sure about what kind of skins, maybe weapon skins or clothing, I know that tatoos also were in the discussion, but they want to try and keep it micro-trans free, only if they cant make a "living" out of just the sales they might add some support the devs micro-trans.
coarse spire
@spring robin yeah it's possible per the #faq
- Will there be DLC or microtransactions in GTFO?
We are committed to not having any microtransactions in GTFO, and the continuous updates to the game will be completely free. However, we do need to put food on the table, so if the planned business model does not work out as planned, we might add some cosmetic "support the devs" type DLC. We promise though, that there will never be any P2W or shady loot box type micro transactions in GTFO.
green forge
When will the informations get published about which weapons, gadgets and so on will be in the game?
coral comet
some already has been revealed, but they're keeping some secret aswell
green forge
Well yes, but I only read that there will be a Railgun
coral comet
green forge
Thats it
rain pecan
Will there be a colorblind mode? My friend has an awful time seeing blues and reds
mint locust
I think it is planned, yeah.
lunar bay
@green forge , you can actually take info out of the trailers, gadgets are: c4,glue gun, sentry, life detector. A railgun is counted as speciaö weapon so far i remember from the gamescom
What i try to say is that gadgets are utility tools, there are primary weaplns and special weapons (heaver firepower weapons, but no mass destruction weapons)
visual sky
Will we get to shoot things in GTFO?
rose basalt
No, we'll kill the monsters with mean words
rapid dock
That game already exists
tender imp
You can melee them
green forge
@lunar bay I think its great that there are no Mass destruction Waepons. Maybe as a special for every mission a grenade that only stuns, but only one per player or mission
.... Game suggestions I know. Sorry got a bit cariied away
lunar bay
Exactly, a good example for the #gtfo-game-suggestions
rapid dock
GTFO is in not a playable state/avaliable for players, yet this Discord server is Verified? How come?
narrow kettle
@blissful dove
mint locust
Because this will be a game and D0cR3d has been chosen actually by a Discord Staff Member
rapid dock
Yeah well makes sense
lilac fulcrum
Not exactly...
A server can be verified if the developers of the game apply and intend to release a game soon. Discord.com/verification
I became an admin after 10CC asked discord for help with creating a bot, xenthys and I helped. Simon then asked us to stay on as admins.
blissful dove
And we've never looked back.
rapid dock
Heartwarming story!
rapid saddle
Sorry if not related to GTFO but... Discord admin are volunteer or actual worker of Discord? employee to get this discord under control or chosen people to assume admin role.
rapid dock
I guess D0c and xentyh voluntarily stood here to help the server out.
craggy pier
So when do pre-orders go up, presuming there is any?
coral comet
as far as I know there wont be any preorders
and if there are, then it wont be untill close to release, since they want people to know exactly what they're getting
mild ravine
@craggy pier theres no pre-order
its just beta then boom full game depending on how beta goes
proud walrus
I'm very exited for the game and I was wondering : do we know what the end game is going to be like ? A friend of mine is worried it would be as grind-heavy as Payday2 since he can't play very often ; and as for myself I'm interested in knowing what it could be.
coral comet
There hasn't been much on endgame
But keep in mind, just like any game, you dont get endgame by doing nothing xd
tawny harbor
Why have an endgame at all? Just keep that grind going and keep enjoying the game
Cause this seems like a game I don’t want an endgame for
candid wadi
^
well wait nvm
cuz then the whole idea is kinda spoofed
it is called get the fuck out
coral comet
if you dont have something to work to, then whats the point of the grind? It'll just get boring after a while
candid wadi
^
kind trail
How low will the specs be?
#faq #4 Does help a tad, but do you have a little bit of an idea on what your lowest specs will be.
No way! I didn't know that!
coral comet
xD
kind trail
I did and honestly, it looks quite good, but how low will it go?
What was my second message?
You copied and pasted FAQ #4
[I have a i5 2500k, 8 gigs of ram, and an HD XFX 5670]
rain pecan
Will there be an option to disable any sort of head bobbing or camera shake?
abstract shore
rain pecan
I hope someone who knows answers.
lone nebula
There should be an end game, a never ending mystery is never fun
proud walrus
I don't mean end game as "the game has to end somewhere," on the contrary : what happens once you've finished the game. I'd love to play the game forever if possible ; but what will there be to do is my question. Will it be replaying the story over and over again with varying gear to try out new things ? Will it be grinding missions to get incredibly rare loot to drop ? Or maybe something else ?
Payday 2's end game was to grind for an incredibly long time to get all the perks you wanted, for example ; that is what the friend I was referring to was afraid of.
blissful dove
Creating an appealing end game is friggin' hard. Anything that a gamer would value as a reward for playing, takes time to create. You can't just have an automatic system that gradually bumps up the enemies' health and make the players grind to bump up their weapons' damage. Players want to see new weapons, new features, be given new challenges.
10 Chambers does not have the man power that the teams that make Destiny or Diablo games have. We can't create thousands and thousands of unique weapon designs and balance them all so that they're all rewarding to find and fun to play with.
Our approach for now is to have GTFO be a games as a service where we keep updating the game with new stuff - and since we only have to finance this very small development team, we hope that the money we get from the sales of the base game is enough to keep us going for a very long time. In other words, GTFO will keep rolling with new content being released continuously, and the idea is that you won't have to buy loads of DLC or microtransactions to keep it afloat, because the team is so slimmed and our tech allows us to put out new maps and stuff fairly quickly.
So, right now there is no end game planned, because we can't see how the game will really develop and how our business plan will pan out.
In our mind, we're very far from even needing an end game. But time will tell.
proud walrus
I think that's perfectly fair too. I've played Alien Swarm for 400+ back when it had no steam community support just replaying the campaign hundreds of time speedrunning it or whatnot. Having a reachable max state where the end game just become "gitting gud" at the game is worthwhile too. Learn to adapt to every situation, play every role or archetype, adapt to all of your friends... Personally, I think an endgame for the player (skill) is even better than an endgame for the game (gear/perks). Especially if the skill we acquire is put to the test with new updates.
narrow kettle
^ 100% agree with this
proud walrus
Personally I'm not in the least disappointed by this answer. Even a little relieved at the perspective of not having to grind my day away !
Thank you very much for taking the time for such a detailed answer ! You guys rock !
craggy pier
depends on the grind level imo
borderlands 2 is too boring while in the division you level up way faster, making the game way more appealing
blissful dove
@craggy pier What depends on the grind level?
craggy pier
when people is talking about "don't put grind in your games" I think that rewarding grind is good
lone nebula
oh, i just want the story to have an end, end game meant that for me. Well, im a story person anyways. Always been more attracted to single player than multi.
blissful dove
@craggy pier I think that everyone agrees with that - and I'd go as far as to say that if you are rewarded frequently enough, it's not even fair to call it a "grind". But what I explained in my post above is that there's no plan to have a grind type end game in GTFO.
lone nebula
back then i didnt know payday 2 actually had a plot and that was why i drop out of it. But GTFO's backstory is interesting enough for me (so it seems) for me to "grind" to get to the ending
mild ravine
Aww but @blissful dove I loooooovvee grinding
blissful dove
@lone nebula "Endgame" is what players can keep on doing perpetually in the game after they have completed the entirety of what the game has to offer in terms of story campaign or set challenges.
mild ravine
Grinding gives me a purpose
lone nebula
i know 😂 , but as ive said, more of a SP campaign guy, so end game always means story ending to me hahaha
blissful dove
@mild ravine You're misunderstanding what I'm saying. There will be plenty of stuff to "grind for" but it won't be in the endgame - it will be in the continuous updates of the game.
undone onyx
Don't mean to be that guy to bring up DRG, but as we were Alpha testing we blew through the leveling and upgrading so fast the devs had to remake the game. So I feel there should be at least some grindey hindrance to just beating the game with sheer will
mild ravine
licks lips intensly yeesss
blissful dove
We don't currently see an end to GTFO, since we plan to frequently update and expand the game post release. An endgame would only be needed if we ran out of money and couldn't continue releasing updates for the game, and we're of course hoping that this won't happen for years.
tawny harbor
@lunar kayak you need to stop 😂
lunar kayak
First to collect 100 potatoes from fallen enemies and escape the mine
quick skiff
I like Grind... But Ever heard of Disgaea Grind?
Disgaea has a nice setting... You can clear the game without much knowledge of the game mechanics like Geo Panels, Throwing mechanic. But for the hardcore completionists RPGs fans, You have a HELLUVA Grind
oh Yes
And RNG
coarse spire
Just gonna throw my 2c towards grinding while ignoring the idea of an end game, I hope the grind for whatever we need is fair and contains as less RNG as possible. Part of the reason I hated Payday 2's grinding was because the randomness to the point I installed some less-than-official mods to allow me to get coins to buy weapon parts or masks as progression (which was eventually added into the actual game in the form of continental coins.) Because sitting there with friends speedrunning Jewlery Store for literally hours just to get that one weapon mod, mask, or color combo just felt awful and a result of developer oversight and/or a shitty attempt to keep people playing for as long as possible.
rapid dock
👆 I remember Gage Coins, they evolved into Continental Coins.
Yeah the weapon mods were annoying to get
Since Continental coins are a thing thats my way to get items.
Or modifications.
I just realized this is not GTFO related im sorry.
kind trail
oof
I mean I don't want that kind of shit either, I mean I played CS just for the coins so I could buy literally every mod in the game, and it's incredibly annoying considering that I just wanted to play normally.
Also, please don't go sicko mode on the achevements
I don't want to play a game for only one reason
rancid wind
can we spend credits on pizza between missions
this is very important
its the make or break for me to get my wallet i need to know
rapid dock
there was a huge thing that could grab the player, I wonder how many bullets does it take to put it donw
craggy pier
and and what kinda progression will there be?
blissful dove
GTFO is not a boss type of game. Making a good boss is like designing a game within the game - a short game segment against an enemy with its own unique movement pattern - often using the similarly unique environment where the boss fight takes place. Doing a good boss fight - like the boss fights in the Metroid Prime games - is really hard. You can't just make a bullet sponge enemy and call it a boss.
So we have high standards for bosses, which I why we have to be honest and say we don't have the manpower to deliver on what we consider a good boss fight to be.
Instead, we're focusing on putting a lot of layered challenges in GTFO and by mixing and matching these challenges (different enemies combined with different environmental hazards combined with different expedition objectives) we create interesting gameplay experiences.
And some of these combinations will be downright nasty. They will be like raids. So you could say these "raids" are the bosses in GTFO.
Re progression: Better weapons, better tools, a bit of cosmetics, and upgrades to some more elements we haven't revealed yet.
stray drift
On April 14, release the game, let's make a double feast 🤔 👌 👀
cursive wagon
Do you have an idea on the price of the game yet? And if so, what is it.
narrow kettle
- What will GTFO cost?
GTFO will be priced below the premium price point (meaning, GTFO will cost less than $59.99.) We can't say the exact price yet, but you will get a lot of bang for your buck from the #faq
pale tapir
will the game be able to run max on a 1060 ( assuming i can with a 3 GB VRAM ) with more than 60 FPS?
rose basalt
most likely yes
pale tapir
nice
timber dune
is there any way that this will be an exlclusive to the epic game store? i REALLY DONT want that after what just happened to Metro and Phoenix Point. I dont want to ever have that store on my comp and i really want this game.
hexed bronze
It's going to stay on Steam for sure. There's certain features on Steam that's mandatory for the game.
timber dune
thank you!
pale tapir
what is the size of the game?
coarse spire
We don't know
lilac fulcrum
Size is unknown as it hasn't been fully complete yet.
pale tapir
but id be nice to know now
so i can predict its small enough for the remaining space on my drives
lilac fulcrum
They can't provide a size until the game is finished. They are still adding/changing/adjusting/optimizing/etc.
pale tapir
mmk
umbral cradle
i am quite excited, thank you Simon for that tidbit of info.
normal nebula
So continuing on from a question in #amba-gtfo-chat, will successful mission completion be required to get credits? If you/all players die and the mission fails, will gathered resources be retained or is it all wiped?
craggy pier
I was hesitating to ask the game size too, I'm just curious to know if it's 1GB-ish or 40GB-ish, I don't need a precise number, just an order of magnitude
coral comet
im guessing somewhere between 25-40 gb
blissful dove
Well it's definitely not 1 Gb.
coral comet
Floppy discs 👌
rancid wind
get the floppy out
glossy crest
Can always play the warmer or colder game with the devs
coral comet
1TB
willow shoal
I’m guessing the devs won’t have a good estimated download size until they get a release candidate stuffed into an install package. I’d guess 25-40GB is probably a pretty good guess for this type of game. Download size also depends heavily on whether the maps are stored locally, or if you download them into a temporary game cache as you play the game. The Division 2 is over 110GB, Destiny 2 is currently around 85GB and RDR2 was around 90GB at launch, but those are obviously much larger AAA titles.
On the other hand, the procedurally generated ‘No Man’s Sky’ is around 17GB currently (was around 10GB at launch).
coral comet
It probably will
rapid dock
Really? I mean there are many large games out there that aren't that huge.
coral comet
20GB isnt big for a game nowadays
rapid saddle
Will there be reload animation on release, update after release or never/not planned atm?
coral comet
There wont have reload animations at release, at least from what I've heard, idk about after tho
rapid dock
Not on release AFAIK
coral comet
Tnx Captain Late
slow zinc
who needs reload anims
rapid saddle
That info was before the spring delay. Or was it confirmed again after?
rapid dock
its not neccesary really
rapid saddle
I know there would not be reload animation at release, but this information came before the spring delay. I want to know the current status of it if they gonna make it or not.
rapid dock
@blissful dove will there be reload animations on release or after?
glossy crest
I’d imagine the size would be similar to Vermintide 2’s size
mint locust
@rapid dock There will be no reload animations on release.
rapid dock
why ping me, ping @rapid saddle
mint locust
coral comet
as of now there are no plans for VR
ruby lance
you know right before I got VR, I didn't mind it not having VR. It's ok, though, I'll enjoy it either way.
blissful dove
We have experience doing console releases and we are console gamers ourselves. Contrarily, we have never developed or released a VR title and we are not frequent VR users in our spare time.
undone onyx
I'd probably fall over and break the headset anyways
deep geode
any idea on when the game will be released yet?
coarse spire
Spring 2019 brother
coarse spire
American Spring, so March 21st to June 21st to be extremely technical
deep geode
thankyou
coarse spire
thumbs up
ornate condor
Any news on the state of development? is it going good, going bad? and how likely is it to get more news soon?
coarse spire
We can only assume things are going as expected since no talk of another delay has come up
ornate condor
Alright, so what are we expecting?
We know that the game is gona be released March and above
hexed bronze
That's all we know for now, sorry.
undone onyx
Soon. :)
coarse spire
@ornate condor well we know the window is March - June
ornate condor
Yeah.. I really hope all the best for the game, Waiting since announcement
quick skiff
VR is just clunky, Maybe if it gets improved
cloud pilot
About hosting servers, is it like a Listen server same as on payday? or matchmaking?
lapis obsidian
Locally hosted from what I remember
mint locust
Peer2Peer
pastel iron
spring is ending 😦
dense oxide
spring starts in 4 days
dense oxide
I just got here not to long ago but had an eye on this game for a good good while, was there any word on closed beta? I assume in early spring before official release?
pastel iron
i hope there are cat ears as accessory
feral steppe
for your guns? or for the zombies
narrow kettle
No date for the beta yet
pastel iron
i think on the helmet will be cool
blissful dove
@feral steppe Sorry, no plans for custom soundtrack support.
ember olive
so uh
i was reading the FAQ and i noticed that the first point was, understandably, about the release date
this specifically caught my eye though
"Spring 2019. That means March at the earliest"
but it's march now, and march is in august
I'm sure that it means spring in america or something, but for those in places like australia for whom seasons are basically the reverse of those in the northern hemisphere (specifically America, which is where i have assumed the devs are based on them calling the third month of the year spring), it could cause confusion
Perhaps a slight alteration to the first part of the FAQ might be something to consider?
coral comet
Best devs :D
rapid dock
👆 👌
coral comet
The spring here is from March 20th untill June 21st @ember olive
ember olive
And that's all good and fair
I feel my point still makes sense though.
rapid dock
Spring here has already started.
ember olive
Whereas it will start in roughly half a year down here
narrow kettle
Just always expect times & dates to be based on Sweden
feral steppe
wait...so by spring they mean australian spring?
rapid dock
I don't think so
rose basalt
no
feral steppe
______> y'all goofin me
rose basalt
it's the dates shadow said
rapid dock
I think Spring 2019 means March to June
rose basalt
march 20 to june 21
rapid dock
at least thats what everyone here have been saying
blissful dove
We'll correct it next week.
rapid dock
Plot twist: They edit FAQ #1 and announce the release date of the BETA to mid April.
coarse spire
wait correct what
coral comet
Some people dont understand when its spring
coarse spire
oof
mint locust
It's easier this way.
craggy pier
So i see the FAQ says the game will not support mods, does that mean the game will be using Denuvo, or some other form of DRM on the game?
rose basalt
No, it means it will not support mods
coral comet
^ xD
kind trail
@craggy pier the game won’t support mods because it’s based on unity, witch is hard to mod
But yes, no drm I think
craggy pier
Ah, good to hear, thanks. get pretty paranoid about Denuvo these days, since it seems to be in all the games i want
rose basalt
No mention of DRM as of now
kind trail
yay
craggy pier
The Release date I want to see is "When it's done." I am really tired of half a game getting released. It's good to see the devs making the game at their pace.
lilac fulcrum
The Devs agree with that sentiment and don't want to release a half finished game.
rose basalt
Yeah, that mentality is the reason the game got delayed to Spring in the first place, and they'll delay it again if its necessary
coral comet
yeah, I'd rather have a finished good game than a piece of garbage
rapid saddle
The drm is mostly the online-only game and server connection. Unless you hack your games you won't be able to play solo anyway. This is a coop games.
coarse spire
nah I mean you can play solo it's just not supported by the team so they aren't going to attempt to work around it
They aren't afraid of, and probably will, release new content that breaks singleplayer and makes it impossible. But you can still try
pale tapir
Then someone will do the SP and he/she will be legendary for beating GTFO in SP at hardest difficulty
rapid dock
I mean it might be possible
glossy crest
How long does it typically take to become an ambassador after sending the form?
brisk venture
Should only take a few minutes maximum. Did you check if you got anything in your spam folder?
glossy crest
Nothing in spam
brisk venture
Weird. Try signing up again and wait 5 - 10 minutes. If that doesn't work, contact one of the devs and see if they can help you.
glossy crest
There we go. Received
kind trail
@hasty mauve someone said that you were testing how low gtfo can go? about how far did you get?
rapid dock
fuck sake lad that is my thing
asking him every 7 days
anyways, sorry for the language
coral comet
get f'ed pug 
rapid dock
I know
kind trail
i'd test gtfo with my amd xfx 5670
rapid dock
yeah I wonder if GTFO could run on Xeon LGA755 processors
pale tapir
I'd test GTFO with a GTX 2600
rapid dock
I mean I got friends playing PUBG on it
kind trail
1k is my things score
rapid dock
anyways, wrong channel to chat PC performance
rapid dock
🦀 🦀 🦀 ludvig is online 🦀 🦀 🦀
narrow kettle
That is not exactly a question
rapid dock
that should be 4th generation Intel I5 right?
hexed spoke
release the game
mint locust
Sounds about right pug.
rapid dock
@hexed spoke no
hexed spoke
😦
hasty mauve
I5 2500k ish
mint locust
@hexed spoke If it was ready, they would, right? :3
hasty mauve
Same year, ish, you could probably do around 6xx
We’ll hopefully be able to release the specs fairly soon🙂
I think I went as low as a 650
rapid dock
Hopefully! Still, I wonder how did you manage to make the game run on 6+ years old hardware.
pale tapir
its called optimizing
hasty mauve
🤷🏻♂️ is a dude shrugging
rapid dock
oh right
hasty mauve
For me its just magic 😉
rapid dock
on low settings I assume
coarse spire
@rapid dock 2012 is 3rd gen i7 p sure
lusty canyon
8k curved
coarse spire
My computers from 2012 and that's my processor
hasty mauve
Naw you should be fine on the HD resolutions
rapid dock
3rd gen i7k holds up well
coarse spire
it does
hasty mauve
I was still running my i7 920 until not to long ago.
coarse spire
I was worried about the GPU requirement, but if I can run tomb raider and GTA at 60 fps then I'm not worried about GTFO tbh
rapid dock
Man, I wonder if the game runs on my 2007 Core 2 Quad if I boot the system up 🤔
Anyways. Thanks for the info ludvig!
hasty mauve
What gpu are you using honey?
coarse spire
AMD 7770
hasty mauve
NP pug
rapid dock
Really?
coarse spire
2GB of Vram, not great but runs all AAA games still on low-medium
pale tapir
how bout...
rapid dock
Thats the XBOX ONE equivalent
coarse spire
yayaya
pale tapir
intel i3 at 5th gen integrated?
rapid dock
Jeez Harold. Upgrade pls!
pale tapir
i already did
coarse spire
ludvig not responding has me worried LOL
He's gonna be like "sry hon hon your gpu is shit no gtfo for you"
rapid dock
it will run it.
pale tapir
1060 3 GB VRAM, i7-7700k, 16 GB ram
coarse spire
yeah I'm confident it will haha
mint locust
Ludvig, will it have RTX some point?
Still gotta put use on my RTX 2080 Ti 😛
coarse spire
Harold you'll be fine
pale tapir
yes ik
hasty mauve
Haha, can’t say I’m too good at Radeons, should probably run it 😉
pale tapir
you dont own an RTX
rapid dock
does the game look good on ultra 👀
hasty mauve
Faye, good question, not a priority at all, but it’s cool tech
mint locust
It is.
pale tapir
every game looks amzing on ult
rapid dock
Not necceseraly.
mint locust
Look at cod2! still looks good
hasty mauve
I’m actually amazed on how good it looked on the low spec 🤷🏻♂️
mint locust
pale tapir
CoD WaW looks good
coarse spire
Oh I mean most games look great on low-medium so I'm not worried, GTAV looks insanely good to run at 60fps stable on medium
rapid dock
Oh man, I hope we get some more info SOON
pale tapir
and ran way too well on my old shitty PC
coarse spire
I honestly can't believe how well GTAV runs, but it does
pale tapir
at some point frames went down on my old PC but it was a custom map so ofc it did
hasty mauve
Time to go to bed, good night everyone
narrow kettle
Good night ludyboi
rapid dock
gööd night
slender osprey
how does the game work as in, is it kind of like hunt showdown where when you die that character is dead? or is it you die you keep the stuff? just curious to how hardcore it is for inventory and such
kind trail
w e. w i l l. f i n d. o u t. s o o n. p l e a s e. w a i t.
coarse spire
The game isn't similar to Hunt or any other game like that. It's more like Payday 2 except you never go into custody if that makes sense.
feral steppe
Q: at the developers: in this game, is it possible to actually G the F O? and as a secondary question, once we have G'd the F O, can we G the F back in?
I mean, is there an outside that we can G the F Out to? or will we sometimes have places that we need to G the F into in order to F Out
(are there outside/large areas or are we always in hallways and rooms)
high compass
Noop, I watched the 9-minute gameplay video (From September 208, mind you, things coud have changed in development) and I saw them revive one another, and I also heard them state that there are four playable characters. I'm not sure it would be like Hunt in a sense that if a character dies you lose everything. Again, this was months ago so things could have changed 🤷
narrow kettle
@feral steppe Reading that was weird
You can get back in by playing the same expedition again
There are larger areas as well, but everything plays out in the complex
narrow kettle
yeah we get out of the complex back into prison
tired sonnet
almost spring, wonder if we can get a teaser
rapid dock
@tired sonnet actually, Simon said on the Steam forums that we will know more about the release date today.
blissful dove
@slender osprey GTFO is not a roguelike game - you will keep your gear even if you die. You will probably die a lot through, the game is pretty difficult.
peak gyro
@blissful dove Do you have any games to compare the difficulty level? Will it be "dark souls" difficult? :p
royal stream
Can't wait
I think it's ok to be difficult. It will increase the right coop playstyle between players
blissful dove
GTFO will be GTFO difficult.
glacial charm
@peak gyro GTFO's gaming experience is unique. I can't recall a game that has a similar gameplay. It's hard to compare the difficulty to games like dark souls, because the gameplay is far too different. I tried to compare it with the hard difficult of the roguelite "Immortal Redneck" shooter but it's a bullet-hell... GTFO is the exact opposite. "Splinter Cell" or "Thief" without killing but sneaking only might get close
pale tapir
You don’t really kill a lot people in Thief as you try not to
coral comet
thats what you think
glacial charm
There is a difficulty in Thief where you aren't allowed to kill or get discovered at all... but that goes to #general
pale tapir
Kinda thief with guns and a horde coming at u
coral comet
cant get spotted if there are no people to spot you >:)
peak gyro
@glacial charm Thanks for the useful answer 😉
blissful dove
GTFO is hardcore but not only because it's difficult - it's hardcore in its game design as well, as in not as accessible as broad market games. The focus on exploration, stealth, and preparation makes the game more slow paced than many other 4p co-op games and therefore maybe not super appealing to the typical casual gamer.
But yeah, it's hard as hell too.
old steeple
Can confirm - it’s pretty hard.
drifting badger
Filthy casuals
royal stream
@blissful dove how it works if i'm an ambassador but I would like to bring a couple of friends to showcase the game at the full potentian a couple of time when the playable version (alpha or else) comes out?
narrow kettle
Tell your friends to sign up as ambassador
coral comet
or be pug and make 5 accounts
blissful dove
@royal stream As Aory said, the obvious solution is to recruit your friends to the ambassador program.
royal stream
Ok, thanks ^_^
stable lichen
hello, there is à Day (light) map or only night map ?
stable lichen
ok thx
craggy pier
lmao
there will be a full open world too but you have a very important mission so you can't go there
hasty mauve
😬
craggy pier
and a battle royale game mode with a $999999,99 DLC
craggy pier
you can't be air droped yeah 😄
barren forum
wait when is the beta coming
and how do we get it
oh i didnt see the other channel disregard me
rancid wind
where we droppin boys wait oh god oh fuck this is questions
hard tiger
Question regarding the alpha's (might have been answered already but didn't see it): Will ambassadors get the ability to play the closed alphas?
lilac fulcrum
That hasn't been clarified yet, it's on our list for the devs to clarify
hard tiger
Alright. Hopefully it will be available, because my body is ready 
frozen helm
@Devs Not certain if this is the place to ask, but when coming up with the game concepts and ideas, are there tools that have been of assistance? Personally I've used coggle.it and trello, but if there are options the team has found that are better I'd be happy to hear about them.
coarse spire
@hallow pine The game isn't going to have multiple difficulty settings in a traditional sense so highly doubt it
hallow pine
Oh right fair enough, I'll delete that question then. Cheers.
@coarse spire Do you know how difficulty is going to work in the game, or any sources you could point me to? That would be greatly appreciated.
coarse spire
Simon: "There will be ways to adapt the difficulty to your ability, or increase the challenge if you like pain, but it won't work as in other games where it's just an option in the lobby screen."
That's basically all we know
hallow pine
Awesome, I like the sound of that. Once again, cheers for letting me know 🍻
pale tapir
Oof
So maybe it’s like
More harder than dark souls
Simon did say it’s really hard
hallow pine
That would be a real challenge, maybe the game scales the difficulty based on how successful you are, and how you complete certain sections or objectives, etc.
pale tapir
Like CSGOs rank system I guess
hallow pine
Potentially, will be interesting to see how they implement it.
rapid dock
Rank system? Its not competetive. Is it important?
pale tapir
It’s like the rank system I said
The more you win = more harder
More u lose = more easier
coarse spire
I think what was being hinted at by Simon was a modifer system personally
pale tapir
Until to a point it’s done
hallow pine
Although it could be more advanced than that, but we'll see.
pale tapir
And you’ve achieved max diff
coarse spire
Maybe either by your choice, or like DRG where certain expeditions have modifiers that make them harder
hallow pine
Yeah I could see both being implemented. Or maybe at random points during a mission certain modifiers could be added to increase difficulty, like random events potentially.
pale tapir
So maybe the game will force you to pick at least 5 or 10 mod
coarse spire
random hazards are confirmed yayaya
Some hazards will happen that aren't displayed in the expedition choice menu
pale tapir
Ye goodidea
hallow pine
Brilliant, maybe the significance of those hazards will be scaled to how well you perform. I can see it either being automated or manual, but manual seems more likely for the majority of it anyway.
pale tapir
Yeah
Mostly manual but some will be the game
I still want that rank like system
It’s be a really good test against really good players
coarse spire
I remember way back when during my interview with Simon I asked about an MMR type system for matchmaking and he seemed pretty receptive to it, I'm still not sure how it would be implemented though
pale tapir
MMR?
coarse spire
like rank
hallow pine
I suppose it could be implemented based on time taken to complete objectives, amount of life lost, amount of enemies killed, whether any squad members were downed or not, etc. Will be interesting to see as to whether it's more tailored to the individual or the squad, or maybe a separate rank for both.
pale tapir
My phone at 1% now
coarse spire
it's not yet because ranks in a co-op nonpvp game are more complicated
hallow pine
Damn the infamous 1%. And yeah they really are, but I could see them implementing it as a possibility.
pale tapir
Maybe have a casual and ranked MM
Casual is not related to ranking
Ranked is like the ranks system I explained b4
hallow pine
I think the whole thing will be "ranked" to a degree, as pointed out earlier you cannot set the difficulty per-say.
pale tapir
True
hallow pine
Maybe just one is an official rank that you can view (if that kind of MMR system was implemented) and another where you cannot see said rank, and it is purely hidden. Kind of like the ELO and visible rank in CSGO. All of this is just speculation of course, but that really would be awesome.
pale tapir
maybe youre right tho
and if we had different ELO/rankings
it would pick the median for difficulty
pale tapir
@hard field #faq stated in there, they are testing with PCs from 2016
specifically, its in faqs
hard field
@pale tapir thanks, scrolled past that question in the faq
solar hull
Probably just bad at reading but I didnt see them say how they were gonna do EA. Is it through invites or we buy it in EA on steam or what?
ornate condor
** We’re going to be depending on you - our community - to help GTFO reach its full potential. In other words, this won’t be beta test that’s actually a game demo released close to the final game launch.**
This is a quote out of the E-mail, could someone explain it to me? And how does it associate with the 14th #faq point? And ping me when you can, thanks a lot
coral comet
nowadays the "betas" are more like a glorified demo of the game that is a bit before the game releases, but for GTFO it's going to be an actual beta, focused on testing the game and finding bugs/exploits and so on and improve the game, which after the beta they will take time to fix those bugs.
and it doesnt really associate with #faq 14, since beta and early access are completely different
early access is basically an early version of the game, thats not fully completed or polished, but it can greatly help to get feedback from us, what we like or what we dont like, and the devs can take that into account while continueing to work on the game
@ornate condor
green tinsel
is Connor McGregor doing the voice for 1 of the characters in GTFO?
brisk venture
@green tinsel No. The Irish character (Hackett) is being voiced by Ronan Summers.
blissful dove
Yeah Ronan actually drew inspiration from McGregor's dialect so it makes sense that you'd associate his performance in GTFO with McGregor.
mild ravine
Imagine if there was a aussie Voice actor WOuld be so funny
dull agate
Will it be an open beta or closed?
How can we get involved with it to help?
@mild ravine
I'm all set now! I wasn't getting the confirmation email for some reason, but I got one just now & DM the bot, I'm goodie. Thanks again!
rapid dock
Since the new AMA channel exists what is the purpose of this channel?
I mean the same as before, but questions answered here won't be displayed in ama-answers
ruby lance
for... post-AMA questions?
mild ravine
The point is theres no point
lilac fulcrum
The AMA channel is meant to give the devs a clean place to start for choosing the questions and start answering them. It's also an ask only channel where this one is an ask and answer with some discussion. This channel will exist after the other is closed.
rancid wind
how long will the AMA last, all ive seen is it gets answered throughout the week, is that the duration ?
lilac fulcrum
We don't have a specific end date yet. Enough time for people to ask the questions they have.
ornate condor
@coral comet ayyy thanks a lot mate for clarifying!! So lets wait patiently for the beta!
coral comet
np ^-^
azure rivet
When will early access happen ?
lilac fulcrum
@azure rivet no dates provided per the #game-announcements
azure rivet
Okay thank you
mild ravine
Hey Will u guys be giving streamers chances at the early access even if they don't know about the game for marketing purposes?
visual rose
Where is the #gtfo-ama-questions channel mentioned in the ambassador email? Can't see it and announcements channel just says " post your questions about the game in the #deleted-channel channel." 🤔
lilac fulcrum
#gtfo-ama-questions @visual rose,
Click the link I just made
ornate condor
Azrrue asks: Will there be interesting death animations if someone is last alive and is caught out with no chance of survival?
Answer: Is there some other game that has that? We're not planning to do anything like that, no. It kinda goes against the one of the core ideas of GTFO and that is to make a game that is easy for a team of 10 (or less) to expand upon for a long time. If we had established this expectations in players to have those spectacular death animations, we'd have to add new animations all the time as we add new monsters and environmental hazards to the game (as they basically represents new ways to die). It would be tricky.
My question: In the Trailer (E3) we saw at the very end before the name popped on the screen that a player has been attacked by some kind of weird snake tentacle thing. So what is that? I heard that it is another moster / creature / enemy...
Any more info on that?
^ I took the information (Question and answer) from #gtfo-ama-answers
pale tapir
Is it a team of 4 max or more
lilac fulcrum
@pale tapir max of 4 but there may be some things you can't compete with less than 4.
slow zinc
will there be movement tech? not just walking and running but things like sliding, wallrunning, etc.? It doesn't have to be flashy, I just want to know if I can go faster than sprinting
pale tapir
its stealth
supposed to be slow paced
not fucking BO4 shit
woop woop 420 no scope rekt boss
slow zinc
hey man calm down
coral comet
xD
slow zinc
I just wanna know how to leave my friends behind quicker
pale tapir
thats basically what it be if it had that lmao
oh nice
theres teamkilling
kill em
slow zinc
<- is the sort of person to be looting while everyone else is dying
naw, it has to look like an accident, see
coarse spire
You can't leave friends behind, they will never actually die and will just sit there waiting for a revive, and the game won't let you progress past APEX doors without them
coarse spire
checkpoints basically, they're the big boy doors we see with the 3 lights
pale tapir
ah i see
coarse spire
usually require a puzzle or bioscan to open, shit like that
pale tapir
pizzle puzzle...
slow zinc
aww darn
coarse spire
Also no wallrunning for sure, sliding I don't think so either.
pale tapir
its supposed to be slowpaced
coarse spire
The movement is fairly simple, it's a slower paced game
slow zinc
okay, just making sure
pale tapir
just imagine the guys are fat as hell and cant do shit but run and walk
slow zinc
also, will airspeed and ground speed be different?
coarse spire
Well they are prisoners, not trained military
And they're scared out of their wits lol
pale tapir
prisoners, eh?
coarse spire
yeah
pale tapir
thats a pretty dark game for Prison architect
slow zinc
will there be drawbacks to jumping? extra sound or w/e?
pale tapir
uhh
coarse spire
We're not sure, that's a good question though.
coarse spire
You should ask in #gtfo-ama-questions about the sound system in regards to stealth movement
slow zinc
okeydokey!
coarse spire
That's a super good question because I know in Payday 2, their last game, stealth was all vision based. Sprinting/jumping/etc. really just made your vision detection rate go up a lot higher. But it's not like your sound of sprinting or jumping ever made noise so that guards would go towards you.
coarse spire
But it being a completely different and fleshed out system in GTFO wouldn't surprise me
Well yeah we know gun shots alert enemies
slow zinc
yeah exactly
I hated that about Payday
loved the idea of the stealth but always made so much noise and nothing happened
and I wondered what was going on
coarse spire
eh, it made PD2 stealth have a higher skill ceiling by giving us movement techs to make moves we otherwise wouldn't be able to without them. But this game I hope your movement sound impacts the AI
slow zinc
I hope so too
green tinsel
are we going to get potato's for blood like the demos tht are shown on youtube? plz
coarse spire
yeah they're eggs
static oyster
If this game releases for consoles, would there be 2 player split screen? Me and my brother are really hyped for this game and would be very cool if we could play together.
coarse spire
I highly doubt it but I don't think that questions ever been asked so I'd ask in #gtfo-ama-questions
spring robin
@static oyster now that online multiplayer has become so standard, implementing split screen capabilities doesn't make as much sense as it used to (mainly because it takes time to develop) since the game is strictly multiplayer anyway.
But also I cannot speak for the devs. But they've got a lot of dev to do and I don't know how high priority split screen would be.
amber vortex
Split screen would be amazing! Especially for consoles. Gotta have a little spice for the game. And the ambiance for the game is also really cool to.
drifting badger
^
feral steppe
Has nvidia contacted GTFO devs to make them RTX-on the game yet
this looks like it's a very point-light and dynamic shadow, atmospheric game
I assumed they'd be all over this
pale tapir
Novideo and shintel bad
AyyMD is what you need
But I have novideo and shintel
Is 1060
sacred goblet
yeah im taking a look at the ama chill lmfao
pale tapir
its in #gtfo-game-suggestions
coral comet
blazing sable
Hello everyone, is there an info about game engine GTFO uses? 😃
blissful dove
Yeah, it's in #faq
I could write it here, after all it's only one word. But it's in #faq - and you should have checked that first. 😎
blazing sable
Is it the same one as Subnautica game?
Thank You kindly, I will definietly have a look 😃
kind trail
It's unity
coarse spire
@umbral cradle It is p2p and the lobbies can either be open to public or closed off and invite only. The alphas will be invite only lobbies.
umbral cradle
Thank you, I scrolled through and couldn't find my question, hope it's not a repeat.
narrow kettle
@blissful dove are the enemy/item spawns in each expeditions set or RNG based?
hexed spoke
so no release this spring?
lilac fulcrum
Correct @hexed spoke but there will be various alpha and beta testing, followed by early access, then full release after EA.
quaint sky
so can we play this beta?
pale tapir
Soon™
quaint sky
how will we be able to download it?
pale tapir
i assume they give us a steam key
quaint sky
is there a criteria on who gets to play it?
lilac fulcrum
All ambassadors are guaranteed to be able to play the alpha and beta tests
pale vine
any idea when pre early acces ?
lilac fulcrum
There have been no dates announced and won't be until they are 100% certain they can deliver on that date.
pale vine
but when this wave starts CLOSED ALPHA 2 - Expedition Rewards?
pale tapir
dont know, itll depend on the roadmap, and you should ceck out #become-an-ambassador for beta
kind trail
Yes, do that ^
pale tapir
even the devs will tell you to make everyone here an ambassador lol
pastel linden
how long does it to become a alpha tester key or invite ?
lilac fulcrum
@pastel linden the alpha and beta dates haven't been announced yet, you'll get an email and a ping here when they are.
clever field
So here's a question regarding difficulty. Something that I feel like almost no multiplayer pve games have pulled off successfully so far.
The game seems to rotate around the idea of the actual game being difficult (This may be true, not disputing that) but how will the game respond to those who can clear the hardest possible difficulty with relative ease. Despite all intentions not to let this happen (in other games), gamers have always proved this to be a seemingly impossible task.
I recently noticed that the devs answered to a question about a dynamically changing difficulty system, there response being:
*Answer: We are not very into dynamic difficulty modifiers. I feel that often they fudge the rules of the game to a point where you can’t be sure on why you failed or how to do to succeed.
I’ll be a bit vague here but If things go as planned we will play around with static-ish difficulty modifiers*
Fair enough, I think that answer is actually much better for the health of the game overall.
My question then is, what is the endgame idea here for when a good chunk (say.. 15%) of the playerbase at the top have figured out all the ways to handle the various difficulties thrown at the player (This is including the static challenges presented). Will there be an attempt to further challenge these players? If so, what methods are planned on being implemented? Harder difficulties, various modifier choices at the start of a match? If not, I feel like that's also a valid and acceptable answer, since the question I pose is unfair in the sense that eventually players will always figure out how to clear content.
Another way to ask the question is, how long do the developers plan on the content being difficult, will we get frequent updates to always up the game, or will it be kind of like the L4D2 model where, while difficulty spikes do exist, once they are all completed that is the peak of game difficulty
Mind me, me and my group of friends loved l4d2 so even if the answer to the question is that it will be like such, that's not necessarily a dissapointment
Oh, and another question from a friend who is concerned about it. This doesn't matter to me, but it does to him so I figure there's a small population at least who cares about this sort of thing.
What incentive is there to play in the game? To further elaborate, besides the simple idea of just playing to have tons of fun (This is how I view it), my buddy gets very discouraged if there is not something to strive for. One example is Apex legends and the apex packs you get for leveling up. At max level you can no longer obtain these, this was such a turn off for him that he actually made a new account just to continue receiving these packs.
So will there be something like unlocking guns, new classes, new difficulty modifiers, new maps, or anything of the sort to give players a sense of progression rather than being statically launched back to the beginning at the start of every round?
And just to be clear, regardless of the answers me and my group are all buying the game still, but questions like these do come up when we discuss the game amongst ourselves
undone onyx
^ Good questions
Related: How will 10 Chambers respond if testers are able to beat the alpha or beta content (some players just love to push and won't stop until absolute victory).
azure rivet
When does early access start ?
brisk venture
@undone onyx The alpha tests will mostly be technical tests, to make sure the basic game features actually work, therefore there won't be a large focus on content. There's actually only going to be 1 mission in alpha stage one, and 4 missions in alpha stage two. It'll be very likely that people get through this content quickly. Check www.gtfothegame.com/roadmap for more info.
@azure rivet The game needs to go through alpha and beta first. Once these stages are done, the game will be released to early access. Since the devs don't know when these stages will be done, there's no set time window for EA release.
azure rivet
Do you know when the test will start ?
Also why on steam does it say it’s in early access
azure rivet
Oh
mild ravine
Its going to come out in alpha 1 then 2 then beta 1 then 2 then early access
It was meant to come out spring this year
azure rivet
Ok thanks
mild ravine
But it changed
coarse spire
After seeing Generation Zero's launch I am very, very glad 10CC is taking it as slow as they want and tempering expectations.
clever field
I was hype for that game, till the gameplay footage came out
undone onyx
@brisk venture thanks yeah I forgot about the limited content part. I'm getting way ahead of myself. 😬
@coarse spire Polished game later > unfinished game now
coarse spire
Yessir.
narrow kettle
slow gyro
@coarse spire couldn't agree more about GZ
blissful dove
How did GZ turn out? I got in on the beta test last fall but it was during the Unity event in LA so I was traveling all through the test period and couldn't try it.
coarse spire
It had a very rough launch, like mostly negative to mixed on launch day rough. Mostly because it had a lot of bugs like robots not agroing onto you when attacking them from afar or even not agroing onto you sometimes when you walk right by them or up to them, bad progression that feels untested because you get everything quickly, and nothing to do in the sandbox. I haven't played it but that's what the reviews indicate are the most annoying issues
kind trail
Doesn't seem it did well critically...
blissful dove
Ok, thanks for the update.
mild ravine
Satisfactory tho pretty good
clever field
problem was
the gameplay was just flat out boring
the fights against the robots play out like it was made 30 years ago
bit of a hyberbole but
coarse spire
I think the design of a "fallout 76 type game" is just a horrible idea. No NPCs, quests, giant open sandbox, multiplayer only just don't seem to mix well. It's like trying to smash together a singleplayer RPG with Rust.
clever field
pretty much
fast python
The beta was decent, so this is quite a surprise.
glacial charm
@coarse spire "The Forest" is a perfect example how a "no npc" type can amaze
tranquil fog
coarse spire
Thing is The Forest is a much tighter game with a more outlined progression system and in general knew where it seemed to want to go
rapid dock
I have got a question for the developement team, and it might sound a bit weird. Do you guys get paid? As far as I know you have been working on this game full time for the past 2 years without any financial help from outter sources but only yourselves and your savings right? Or am I missing something?
hexed bronze
I think that matters is that the game is being worked on and will be eventually completed and updated. Regarding their financial situation is a personal matter.
languid marlin
So Devs, what was your inspiration for making GTFO? Like what was the drive to make a..what i would assume is a Dungeon Crawler? If you could call it that
mortal anchor
@rapid dock I won't go into much detail but yeah, we are self funded and we look forward to releasing the game when it is done. <=)
mortal anchor
@languid marlin I wouldn't call it a dungeon crawler, rather a hardcore cooperative shooter.
The main drive for us is to make something where it is okay to cater for a core audience instead of everyone. Coming from bigger projects with a lot of restrictions we want to be able to make design decisions that wouldn't fly in an ordinary AAA production. We also wanted to make something really good so we choose a genre that we know and are passionate about.
"we wanted to make something really good", that's a dev-quote to die for yeah? 😅
Creatively there are so many inspirations so I can only name a few.. The old alien swarm game for some coop mechanics, L4D for that core cooperative "juice" that still delivers even though it's old.. Alien and Aliens for mood and esthetics.. etc etc
languid marlin
Sounds great, could you call its development process similar to the likes of Coffee Stain's Deep Rock Galactic? Despite it being a more casual cooperative shooter/loot grabber
hallow pine
I loved Alien Swarm personally, I can see the inspiration there.
languid marlin
And perhaps that style in general? Go in, grab what you need and get out kind of thing
glad echo
I've been wondering if there's any actual "loot grabbing" in GTFO (for purpose of selling/crafting/upgrading/whatever)
languid marlin
Probably, im not sure, from the trailer perhaps but from it i mainly got the "Get in get out kind of thing
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mortal anchor
@clever field Thanks for the questions!
I agree that there is always going to be a chunk of the player base that manages to go through every obstacle however challenging you think you are making them! This is both kind of awesome and can be a problem if we don't find new challenges to present.
We are thinking and planning a lot for this in conjunction with how we handle the expeditions. We think that we have a solution for both presenting new challenges and then to keep players motivated to come back, but this of the things that we haven't really revealed yet so we are saving this for a little later. Sorry :)
That being said, even though we have a plan for it we realize that this is going to be a challenge. We don't have team of 100 graphic artists producing a stead stream of new content so we are trying to be really creative on reusing and combining systems in what we think will give crazy challenges.
@languid marlin Not sure about DRG's development process, can you elaborate?
Regarding gameplay we have some overarching similarities for sure (go down, solve your objective, get back out again), but not so much in the details of the exploration, the combat and the puzzles.
languid marlin
Yeah apologies about saying dev process, that's what i was looking for. I'm really excited for this game and cant wait for it
Although i have 1 more question. How do you plan on curbing cheating? I know in a coop shooter like Payday 2 they didnt really prevent it if it wasnt stealing DLC. So what does your team plan to do to combat cheating?
mortal anchor
I have a pretty lengthy answer regarding cheating in the AMA-answers channel, I'm not skilled enough to know how to link to a specific message though.
languid marlin
Okay ill check it out
lilac fulcrum
@mortal anchor click the triple dot menu at the end of a message then choose 'copy link'
rapid dock
I was looking at the roadmap, at "CLOSED ALPHA 1 - Network Test", below I saw the features you are working on. The roadmap hasn't been updated since the 18th March, will you update it every single time when one feature is finished, or update it when multiple features have been finished?
lilac fulcrum
mortal anchor
@rapid dock It will probably be a little different each time but those are big tasks and we are working on them in parallel so we'll mark them as done when we get there.
We could have added a ton of small tasks (optimize X, fix bug Y, create a tool to solve Z, design A etc..), but then it becomes such a hassle updating the list all the time, I think we'd rather have the bigger tasks to give you the big picture than having a huge list that is frequently updated.
lilac fulcrum
@mortal anchor I'd like to see "Wrote line 1,236", "Created wall in section 51" 😛
lunar bough
Will gtfo come to Xbox and PlayStation?
hexed bronze
Currently only a PC release is planned.
junior forge
I was wondering how do you share your data while working on unity? Are you using Unity collab, Sourcetree ,Github ? Thanks !
mortal anchor
@junior forge We're using Subversion on a file server with backup functionality. For us the choice was between SVN or Perforce and this time we went with SVN.
blissful dove
@craggy pier @mild ravine You collect commodities down in the Complex, that you can trade for weapons and weapon upgrades between the expeditions. So you're not going to acquire new weapons during expeditions that you can instantly use. This design decisions is in part because the act of modifying weapons will contain a bit of angst (you'll lose most parts of the weapon you're taking the weapon part from, and losing the part of the weapon you're applying the mod to) so fiddling with the weapons might take some time. We don't want players to stop playing mid-expedition to go into a menu and start fiddling with their commodities and weapons - that would be very frustrating for their teammates. So all of the weapon acquisition and modification happens between expeditions.
thorny bobcat
modding weapons is extremely destructive, huh?
craggy pier
@blissful dove ,Thank you for your answer. It will make the game even harder. You will depend of the resources you get which your team and you will need to explore a lot.
junior forge
Hey ! I had another question regarding making a game on Unity. How did you manage to get a good sound system. Did you use Wise? or committed on unity ?
thorny bobcat
I'd imagine it'd be something like wwise or fmod
thorny bobcat
...steam audio? Isn't that a music player thing?
plush zephyr
is this game out yet ?
craggy pier
no (Not yet, anyways, there is a "Beta" coming soon which you can sign up for in #become-an-ambassador. You can also check #game-announcements as they did address this before)
rapid saddle
We will all most likely be notified via email when ambassador can join the Test phase or Early access release.
plush zephyr
oh alright no problem
blissful dove
@junior forge GTFO uses Wwise.
prisma stirrup
wait, what happens if someone drops out and you come across something that requires all four players to proceed?
pale tapir
then uhh
youre fucked i guess
maybe if someone leaves, a big invincible boss comes in
hallow pine
If you read that ignore that message, I just realised what you meant.
That's a really good question actually.
coarse spire
They said the things like bioscans will always require the amount of people you have active in the game
So if you got 3 members a bioscan for an apex door will need all 3
Its not a strict "4 player or unopenable" system
pale tapir
"bots' hehe
mortal anchor
@prisma stirrup @pale tapir Basically what Honey Said, We handle those situations dynamically depending on how many players are in the session. We are trying to make it hard, not impossible:)
pale tapir
ok
prisma stirrup
ok cool.
gusty trout
Will the game be very heavy on the GPU? Do they have any idea on min and max requirement yet?
hallow pine
Hey there @gusty trout, official requirements are not currently out there as far as I'm aware. However, that being said, the developers have said themselves the following in FAQ point 3:
"We are confident that GTFO will be well optimized and not demand too much of your computer. In any case, GTFO is not meant to be a ultra high requirement, "benchmark test" sort of product. The development team uses computers from around 2014-2015 to play the unoptimized development version of the game and even capture trailer video footage (Intel i7 4790, GeForce GTX 970, 16 Gb RAM.)"
GTFO shouldn't be too intensive from this statement, this is all the public information available at the moment (as far as I'm aware). & this is what's being run before full optimisation as included within the statement. If you'd like to see the message for yourself please head to #faq and look at point 3 🙂
gusty trout
ty
hallow pine
No problem.
west nexus
Um, I would like to sigh up for the early access/beta test, but in retarded...where on the website do I go to actually sign up for it?
coarse spire
It's the ambassador program
pale tapir
west nexus
Yes, I clicked the link and it takes me to the website, where do I go from there.?
pale tapir
you signed up?
lilac fulcrum
Click the 'Become a 10 Chambers ambassador' link @west nexus
it's at the bottom middle of the page below the video.
west nexus
Ok thank you
pale tapir
when it is done
an email is sent
check it out, should be straightforward
tell me when youre done
hallow pine
Yeah, after that if you wish to have the ambassador role on Discord simply message the bot titled "GTFO BOT" with the email address you registered with and it will give you the role 🙂
pale tapir
^
west nexus
ok, im really really sorry, i dont know if im just fucking blid or stupid or both, but i don't see the link you are talking about, can you send like, a pic of where i need to click
im really incompatent im sorry
pale tapir
alright
west nexus
wait nevermind i found it
pale tapir
lol ok
pale tapir
its ok
west nexus
ok, i just recieved the email and confirmed the subscription
pale tapir
alright
then you need to message the @eager jacinth your email
just your email
no
like private message
west nexus
oh
pale tapir
lulz
west nexus
that makes much more sense
pale tapir
np
west nexus
so, im assuming that now i will recieve updates on the progression of the development through my email, right
pale tapir
yeah
and also through the #ambassador-announcements
or just reg announcement i think
remote pivot
so since im signed up and everything i just wait for a beta announcement?
or can i sign up for it?
hexed bronze
When you're an ambassador you're automatically in the beta.
safe wraith
Are there any requirements to become an ambassador? Like signing an NDA, streaming/promoting the game for a certain amount of time - those sort of things.
mild ravine
@safe wraith checkout #become-an-ambassador
safe wraith
It just says about messaging the bot to get the role, the site has a link which takes you to a subscription confirmation page. There's no indication or clarity from what I can see about what it specifically asks of you.
mild ravine
It says to sign up on the website... which is 100% free all u need is a email which doesn't have to be one u care about as they will only email u shit if its about the game
lets move this to #gtfo-chat
safe wraith
No need. If that's all it is then I'll give it a thought, or wait for a dev to confirm. Thanks for the info.
hallow pine
Hi there @safe wraith there are no requirements to becoming an ambassador. You do not need to sign an NDA, stream or promote the game for a certain amount of time etc. Anyone can sign up as an ambassador on their website, all you need is to subscribe with a valid email address.
clever field
you know, without trying to sound like a douche here, the guy who was trying to help you was an ambassador :)
vocal bridge
Will there be an announcement in this server if any form of gtfo is released like the alpha or beta because I rarely check my emails
lilac fulcrum
Yes, you will get a notification via email and via this discord server
mild ravine
Will there be different dificuly levels?
hard oracle
Do you know when alpha or beta will be released?
mild ravine
Checkout http://gtfothegame.com/roadmap/ to view the roadmap but a date is still unknown
@hard oracle
hard oracle
😃
spiral fractal
Looking at roadmap seems like the game was not even ready for spring release
hasty mauve
Ditto, you have a lot of information regarding the delay here:
http://gtfothegame.com/roadmap/info.html
We are doing our best to get it out to you guys as soon as it is ready! With emphasis on “when it’s ready”:)
coarse flume
How much weapons and gear vararity on launch are you guys planning
smoky field
@coarse flume lack of. It’s going to probably feel like table scraps. Like the scene from aliens when in the leader takes the ammo because they are next to the reactor. Then Hicks says “what do we use? Harsh words?”
gentle zenith
Assuming this channel is just open to any random question we have. Do we have any idea how characters are going to work in GTFO? Will it be a create-a-character situation or will we pick from preset ones like in the Payday games?
lunar bay
There will be a set of 4 playable character, there will be no cameos, like for example someone from a other game
gentle zenith
Not asking about the cameos, kind of figure that's a sore spot honestly, so I wouldn't expect it. I just wasn't sure how they were going to handle it. Do hope we get the priority system like Payday 2 though, was probably as perfect an answer as we could get to the issue where the character you want is taken.
lunar bay
Yea, maybe that would be a thing. but yea it is quite a horror Coop shooter so there won't be that much talking or shouting like in Payday2
gentle zenith
I'm not certain, there did seem to be plenty of chatter from the gameplay demo I was watching
lunar bay
mhm :)
rich zinc
Hello there other GTFO hopefuls. I have a question about the difficulty of the game (after reading the TL:DR of the AMA). The thing is, I'm a total potato when it comes to FPS games and while I'm expecting my friends to carry me, I don't want to be complete dead weight to them. What other things will there be aside from shooting and sneaking (and pooping of pants)?
coarse spire
decision making, keeping cool during intense situations (solving puzzles/relaying info while being swarmed by enemies), map and mechanics knowledge, metagaming. Shooting and sneaking are undoubltly important but it's not an fps like OW, you don't need to have the ability to click heads on enemies flying through the air. Sneaking anyone can learn to do well.
rich zinc
Okay, I'm pretty good at sneaking, terrible at keeping cool during intense situations though, maps are another thing I'm usually good at and mechanics. Nice, sounds like I won't be complete dead weight at least. 😃
lilac fulcrum
There are no dates. Take a look here: http://gtfothegame.com/roadmap/info.html and checkout the roadmap. All ambassadors will be able to play the alpha and beta so make sure you've signed up on their site.
craggy pier
... :/ im applyed for be an ambassador but... didnt work?
well i will re-try and thx
mint locust
Do you mean the ambassador role? You need to write your E-Mail which you subscribed to the newsletter with, to the @eager jacinth
craggy pier
thx
mint locust
np ❤
amber flint
Is it possible to get into the closed Alpha?
snow dragon
will gtfo be an evil epic game store exclusive or will it release on steam?
proven cypress
it'll release on steam, it already has its own steam page
you can wishlist it if you wanna
amber flint
How to I become an ambassador?
pale tapir
amber flint
Thanks
proven cypress
the entirety of Anime becomes an ambassador
pale tapir
because anime good
amber flint
I'm just letting the whole squad in is all.
Gotta make sure the weebs absolutely FLOOD the closed Alpha.
proven cypress
every single solderboy becomes a fuckin' weeb after the entirety of anime becomes an ambassador
proven cypress
at least i'll finally feel like the beautiful anime princess i always wanted to be
'cus with anime come cosplays
sick fossil
idk if this is a question for here, but whats an ambassador
couldnt find any info on it everywhere
just that people can sign up to be one
kind trail
It's the newsletter for the dev's
sick fossil
oh okay
proven cypress
it'll also give you access to certain cool stuff
sick fossil
so you get updated on future stuff for the game, then
kind trail
They use it to send information and notify people of the beta, and in future updates.
solar thunder
So is there a official release date for the game yet or no?
Since before they stated during Spring of 2019
proven cypress
nope
rapid saddle
@solar thunder There no more planned release date unless the devs are 100% sure they will respect the said date. But an Alpha test phase is coming soon for all ambassador. You can register at http://www.gtfothegame.com/ if you didn't already.
viral mesa
Hype
clever field
@sick fossil you also have to be an amba if you want access to early beta
at least as far as I know
junior forge
I am pretty sure someone already asked this but what is going to be the price for GTFO? will there be a pack for 4 players? Thanks
hallow pine
Hey there @junior forge, the price for GTFO at release will be under $59.99, the exact price has not been confirmed. The game will be even cheaper than release during the EA phase, if you'd like to see the message for yourself from the developers you can do so here:
https://discordapp.com/channels/408196129470152705/523171010116059136/524243691880316928
As for whether there will be a four pack available, the developers (as far as I'm aware) have not commented on that before so we'll have to wait and see 🙂
junior forge
thanks alot!
hallow pine
No problem 🙂
Actually @junior forge, I think steam have discontinued four packs as I have just looked it up. So it doesn't look like there will be a four pack.
plucky pulsar
This has probably been asked, but does anyone know how sound will work? Like will sleepers react to the voip or only to ingame actions?
mint locust
@plucky pulsar Only to game actions.
plucky pulsar
@mint locust thanks!
mint locust
np
feral steppe
remember in splinter cell: pandora tomorrow when VOIP made enemies react
proven cypress
you want that to be in GTFO?
ionic nova
That’d be dope if like the hardest difficulty had something like that
I’d honestly use voip over discord for that
proven cypress
I'd scream
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAH I NEEEED A MEDIC BAG! for that
keen jasper
^
sick fossil
Doesnt Welcome To The Game do that
where itll check your mic occasionally
So when youre hiding you gotta be quiet irl too
keen jasper
HAHAHAHAHAHA
hexed bronze
It's getting off topic here, lets move it to general.
haughty flame
Hey just a quick question here, it says GTFO is releasing in spring, has there been any hints as to a specified date?
proven cypress
Nope, sorry guy, all we can do is be patient and wait most likely for an email
(you can get emails from 10cc by becoming an ambassador)
lilac fulcrum
it was delayed from Spring to Unknown. They aren't providing any release dates until they are certain they can be reached. They don't want to promise a date then say "sorry, delayed again".
haughty flame
Aight, I'll just wait until the purchase button unlocks on Steam, thank you, have a good day
dense prawn
is there an actual reload animation or does the gun just go off screen?
proven cypress
that's a pretty specific question
but assuming you ask because of what you saw during the demo gameplay, that gun lowering might just be a placeholder
dense prawn
i hope it is, i dont like that
proven cypress
yeah, I get ya, they seem to be working pretty hard on the game to get a proper alpha/beta release so maybe they'll work on reloading animations along the way
amber flint
Is GTFO going to be another promising, awesome looking game stolen by epic games store exclusivity? @n@
proven cypress
seemingly, nay
but if ulf dares I'm boycotting his baldness and beard
amber flint
Okay, I can sleep now.
kind trail
@hasty mauve any update with min-reqs?
dense prawn
how badly will we get our asses kicked by aliens?
pale tapir
very
keen jasper
Kinky
hasty mauve
@kind trail not really no, but something along the lines of mid range 2012 should be fine 🙂
keen locust
Guys, I have a questions, when will Gtfo come out?
keen locust
ah okay thanks ^^
hallow pine
Hey there @keen locust, the developers are not giving a release date until they can be absolutely certain that the game will meet the deadline, so no release date will be given and no time should be assumed until an official date has been given by the development team. You can follow their progress of development as Harold said on the roadmap which you can find here:
http://gtfothegame.com/roadmap/
That being said, you can participate in the alpha tests of the game by signing up as an ambassador on their website. That way you can still play the game during these phases as all ambassadors will have access to the alpha playtests. If you haven't signed up already, you can do so here:
If you have any other questions please don't hesitate to ask 🙂