Happy weekend!
#amba-gtfo-chat
tight crag
harsh mountain
Thanks I hate it
harsh mountain
Neat
Also, now that I'm looking at that elevator scene it actually looks different from what I've expected
And the huge open wide area of the complex ludvig posted a screenshot about in the gtfo media channel, i guess it kinda works now
tight crag
Only 3 oranges on roadmap here we go
warped swan
and then it continues on alpha 2 ^~^
shadow tulip
If there is an alpha 2!
turbid roost
Imagine if it was all a late April fools joke and they never really redesigned the game but it’s all ready to early access
warm sand
As for me, compared to the 2017 trailer it's great seeing all the changes and revisions they've worked on.
It's definitely more polished looking than initially shown.
regal lava
And im just here waiting for the finished product. Aint gonna judge until its already ready for publishing
warped swan
^
shadow mica
^
vestal cove
same here, to me the purpose of testing is to give them feedback, report bugs, etc.
part of the testing process is that players will shape the future of GTFO based on their feedback, so I'm gonna try to record everything and give them feedback based on it
proper spear
Well, we haven’t really redesigned the game as a whole.
We’ve reworked parts they needed working, and made it into a more solid and experience,
Reworked a lot of stuff under the hood. More than altering the core design so to speak
somber tide
on which engine is gtfo ?
warped swan
Unity.
somber tide
hopefully not the same stutters like in tarkov
i really have absolutely NO idea how game development works.
but i kinda wonder why engines always make so much problems when updating them for a game
wouldnt it be logical that the core system stays the same and stuff just updates :D?
warped swan
It would be logical, but some things have to be upgraded.
You know VRChat? They started on Unity 5.
Which is an old version, so they upgraded to 2017 for Performance issues etc.
somber tide
no i dont
warped swan
Alright then, but some unity versions (especially major updates from 2017 to 2018 to 2019 etc.) brings a lot of new and technical performance things
so depending on whether it's running well, or not, is the need of an upgrade
twilit thicket
it's also the aspect of " you don't know what you don't know" when it comes to updating a game regarding the engine
somber tide
but why does an upgrade bring new bugs, when the core system should be the same
twilit thicket
like you may develop the game a certain way, then realize later on "shit, I need to change this, damnit the engine doesn't let me do what I need"
or "we don't need to change this value too often, it's fine keeping locally on the client" then later finding out "the community wants us to react fast and adjust this value to make the game better. ok, value changed, now to certify the update and push it out... a month later"
warped swan
Also not every unity engine update supports every script, so the scripts also need to be upgraded to a newer version etc.
somber tide
Does Unity run off a base code or is it comprised of it's own code mainly?
I think Unreal Engine uses c and c++, but I don't know much about unity.
I'm just intermediate in c# and a begineer in C++. I also have background in unix / linux.
Due to medical issues I did most of my core classes first
vestal cove
C# runs pretty fast in Windows too, but nothing that can outperform C++
still, some Unity showcases manage to get more FPS than Unreal ones in the same scenarios
by the way, any insight on how you're gonna deal with feedback and bug reports?
twilit thicket
There will be a form for collecting bug reports. Feedback utilizing the various channels like discord, steam forums, #gtfo-game-suggestions for well ideas/suggestions.
vestal cove
good to hear!
also, are you aware .NET dlls can be decompiled?
that said, how are you going to manage cheaters? votekicking/automated system?
twilit thicket
The #gtfo-ama-answers has some responses regarding cheating
vestal cove
I mean... if you gave me the Managed folder I'd show you that it's probably rather easy to cheat judging by what he stated...
a modified Assembly-Csharp can do wonders
from noclip to blazing through a match in around 5 secs
anyways, not a big deal, it's a coop game
still, you can easily detect no clip by doing what it's called I think a SphereCast
twilit thicket
They are being vague about it.. as to not reveal secrets that could allow someone to cheat. Part of security is through actually having hardened systems, part is through not letting the opponents know what's under the hood. There will always be a way to cheat something if you try hard enough.
vestal cove
I'm now reading that obfuscating .dll's in Unity is rather hard tho
but you can move the exploitable methods to a secure, obfuscated dll using anything of what this dude said: https://stackoverflow.com/a/60054/11000333
as an example, in SCP:SL you can still crash servers by "killing" yourself over and over, obfuscating methods that could cause issues could solve problems
and you could crash servers by just telling the server you customized your weapons because that makes sense
flint reef
Maybe a system where the game can check acceptable parameters on what a player should have throughout key points of the game. If you are over that it could indicate a form of cheating. Which would trigger the game to up the gameplay to be more difficult or something to reflect that. That way if someone does cheat it is bluntly obvious for them. Like instead of one or two characters show up in a spot. 10 of the same type show up. Just end up making it all silly.
vestal cove
or just a raycast from the player to check if he has sight with what he's shooting through walls if the game is not hitreg like Overwatch or any Source game
flint reef
My way doesn't prevent cheating but rather so if caught does something else in the game to make it not fully worthwhile to cheat
twilit thicket
I don't think it's worth worrying about how GTFO can be hardened to cheaters as it's not something they are going to ever tell the public how they secure the system, and I'm confident that they have smart devs that know how to do that type of stuff. If after the alpha or early access is released and you do your own testing and find an exploit then bring it up to the devs or to one of us mods/admins so we can relay to the devs privately to get fixed.
vestal cove
that's what Fairfight does (what Tinman said), I think there's a video of a guy in a bombardier plane getting banned for one week and he was recording it for youtube in Battlefield
aight gonna break this game for ya 😎
gibs me white hat like Rocket League
also cool name D0cR3d, I like how you're called just "One" in binary
twilit thicket
Yes! Finally, someone figured out what my name means. This is my happiest day.
warped swan
but i already knew
vestal cove
*beep bop beep*
warped swan
sadness
vestal cove
I'm gonna say some people did but they never told d0c
I'm just too talkative about everything
harsh mountain
that's rare
twilit thicket
seriously, I get people either telling me "it's 3" or "it's 49"
somber tide
Assembly drilled hex and binary into my head
full peak
wait
Isn't it 31?
hecking heck
I looked into it
decided 1 isn't the right answer
guessed that doc meant the hex code thing
and started calling him 31
you're always 31 in my heart doc
vestal cove
I mean, makes more sense in ASCII
I assumed 0000#0001 which is literally 1 in binary was already picked
that's why I went for the ASCII translation
also so GTFO stands for "Gaming The Flipping Owewewewa"
twilit thicket
Mirror's - To convert it correctly you need both my user name (0011) and discrim (0001) to make a full 8 bit binary. That becomes 49 in decimal, and when converted to ASCII is 1 (which is the correct answer)
wispy cedar
nerd
twilit thicket
wispy cedar
What if I like nerds
twilit thicket
runs, far far away, very quickly, to the deepest depth of GTFO
wispy cedar
you can run
but you can hide
Also D0c do u mind if I ask some things in DM about the bot
twilit thicket
I will become one of the monsters, living amongst them. You won't be able to get to me.
you don't need to ask lol
wispy cedar
full peak
cough moon pass the info cough
twilit thicket
Would you like to know where The Warden lives?
wispy cedar
in everyone's heart
me @ @real hull
vestal cove
I wish this bot 
'd whenever someone pings him
am gonna do a "ShitBot" that does exactly that
and then he pings you back unexpectedly
full peak
very cool
vestal cove
I was about to say that you have to enable that channel's notifications manually
vestal cove
but same goes for the channel itself, you just right click/hold it and then enable notifications for it
full peak
it just be out here like "you have added the bot to the channel"
and then never sends messages
full peak
see, I've got Payderp 2's announcements channel in my personal discor
and it didn't update me about stuff
tbh, very not gamer
almost as gamer as the amount of guesses for GTFO's name
vestal cove
maybe for some retarded reason it has to do with permissions?
full peak
no?
vestal cove
just a guess
vestal cove
I mean Discord is pure jank
twilit thicket
the announcement/follow channels have been working well in my server
warped swan
^
vestal cove
well there you go
twilit thicket
you just have to have the person add it as a follow first, then any new messages published will get tfx over (and the mod has to manually click publish)
old ocean
You don't follow Ulf on Twitter, do you? He's been pretty vocal about internal testing over there... lol
vestal cove
a quick restart option (like actually quick) seems hard if the code wasn't made for it without reloading the whole scene so I'm going to be patient
oh well
I think I do
but I follow like 400 political accounts so yeah
hard to see it, sorry!
but glad to hear that! thanks!
harsh mountain
(Ulf has only recently started to talk about "hey gtfo exists" tho)
vestal cove
wait a minute did I get bamboozled
old ocean
At any rate, by 'quick restart' I think they are talking about restarting an expedition without the need to utilize Alt-F4 after a team wipe... as I understand the current situation.
vestal cove
if it's spaghetti code/something scrapped from somewhere else it's really hard yeah
but repositioning everything shouldn't be hard if it had been done right first try
harsh mountain
Quick restart also means having a "leave game, back to menu" button
On the roadmap
vestal cove
a loading screen with quick restart doesn't seem too bad at all to be fair
if that's that, then it's rather a simple restart button without going through the main menu
twilit thicket
It's what Steve said. Currently the quick restart may/may not always reload the expedition correctly, or at all, so to reliably start the expedition again you need to completely quit the game and relaunch.
Not about adding in the buttons, the buttons exist, the functionality doesn't always work.
vestal cove
so they're going the not-shitty way
I mean they could have used the same system as PD2
that doesn't look too bad, honestly, but just repositioning everything and resetting everything would save a lot of time 
old ocean
Yes. While they are creating a challenging, brutal game, they are also trying to create a user-friendly experience otherwise.
vestal cove
and if they aren't its probably a Harmony patch anyways
easier said than done but Unity games can do that
harsh mountain
I'm talking about what Simon has mentioned before. Currently, while in game in GTFO there is no "leave game/back to main menu" option. They can only Alt+F4 and restart the game.
So they can't even return to the menu if the game is already started.
vestal cove
I mean you have to program it and get probably some interlopers/postfix patches and all the coding yada yada (or just replacing the whole game) but yeah
wait they didn't figure a way to unload the map?
ayy lol
old ocean
Unless they've changed things up, repositioning and resetting everything within the expedition is beside the point. At least in the version I played at E3 2018, enemy encounters and supply caches were randomized with each reattempt
vestal cove
that's part of placing things too
I mean I just made it really simple but it's not just what I said at all
hard to explain it on my phone since what I had in mind it's a lot of stuff
and my best guess as why they are still getting that one down
but in a nutshell, I guess they're going for "Reload everything, but don't unload the map and the textures"
old ocean
Right. It will be the same map, and (I believe) puzzles, terminals, locked doors, etc will remain the same, but enemy encounters and where you find caches will randomize.
eg a gunfight in one location during one attempt may become a stealth encounter on the following attempt.
vestal cove
I mean, devs probably didn't get the memo that UNet is deprecated because it's really shit
and since (don't quote me on this, afaik this is true) their new system is still in beta, porting over to new Unity takes just a lot of time for how shit it is
I'm gonna blindly bet they are still trying to make it so even if the host closed the server, the 3 other players would reconnect
I mean not to blame them, it's Unity's fault...
warped swan
They use PlayFab for multiplayer.
lofty ledge
https://discordapp.com/channels/408196129470152705/434293180561752065/626142132800978958
same here for the Gamescom version
vestal cove
still, part of what I actually meant
I meant like a "reset" rather than a restart
that's probably the "quick" part and why it wasn't their first priority, am I in the wrong here lads?
and also most likely PlayFab just supports the easily exploitable UNet
warm sand
Maybe they wanted to prioritize core features and functionality? I dont think its an issue considering a restart function is far less complicated to implement than the other stuff they have under the hood.
fossil panther
So when is the first chance we get to get our hands on this game?
twilit thicket
When they release the alpha. No date but soon.
harsh mountain
Gtfo yes no ok bye
tiny dagger
I...
warped swan
exCuSe mE
warped swan
No
somber tide
yes
harsh mountain
Yeah, urine future telling
vestal cove
the only way to tell the future
eternal oxide
taps point finger on the desk menacingly..
proper spear
👀
orchid field
Be afraid.. Cause I am.
vestal cove
damn man
that elevator gonna look damn lit 🔥 🔥 🔥
why u afraid frendo Punished
u dont need to be afraid
orchid field
Oh I love the elevator..
It's just.
The fear of the wire snapping
And it just turns into a survival round
Which might be a great addition to the game
vestal cove
yeah, main reason why it deserves a really big ass graphical update
orchid field
I'll be very happy to see new graphics.
acoustic field
all that's left for Closed Alpha:
Quick restart of Expeditions
Update elevator sequence graphics
Pre-Alpha testing
we're so close, I CAN FEEL IT
proper spear
we are close 🙂
dark sigil
i want to play this game 😦
shadow tulip
We are legion that wanna play this game.
orchid field
let's go bois.
tight crag
"closed' is better than 'soon'. right?
tight crag
yup
@proper spear Gimme a favor!
I asking for:
- Able to invite at least two friends for play the alpha
- Some more details for PC spec like requirements for harddisk size.(Something that I couldn't find at faq)
warm sand
As far as I know the alpha is geared towards anyone who signed up as ambassador, details regarding invites aren't known yet.
Disk space is something that they'll provide info in the future, since they're still working on the game.
There's still time to sign up as an ambassador for access to the alpha and beta, so I would get your friends to sign up while they have the chance.
warm sand
No problem.
harsh mountain
Breaking news
tight crag
yes it is
raw grail
while 2019 was rolling every time I felt that game release was close I was afraid that AAA counter game would not allow devs to earn enough money to pay off this huge investment of time.
but looks like they are in a good spot if game is coming before cyberpunk and after BL3
sleek marlin
Take my money 
warped swan
No can do. 👌
.. yet
uneven jay
Nice
warped swan
No can do. 👌
.. yet
vestal cove
this is actually what GTFO is about
have 0 doubts about it
that's why there's that emote
warped swan
I'm total confusion
vestal cove
joking also no news on the roadmap?
actually not joking, GTFO is about finding Ulf's glasses, that's why he's so confused on that emote
the discord is closely related to GTFO lore
warped swan
no news yet
warped swan
it’s still september
harsh crest
for one day only 😉
stiff basin
I have the hardest question on GTFO
harsh mountain
Yes
stiff basin
So the game core is ready enough for testing, that would include player characters, environment templates, enemies, game mechanics, engine (Unity), items, etc...
But will the game content start development after the Alpha / Beta phase, or have most (say > 50%) of these already been developed?
Content as in - level designs, missions, story, background characters, etc
charred radish
👀 the roadmap is looking good 👍
warped swan
ikr
charred radish
It's going to be one heck of a ride once the beta is out and im sure they are doing their best to not have any bug issues
warped swan
^ agreed.
vestal cove
I'm guessing they want a 0-bug release
so probably beta will implement 90% of what they had in mind
but it's just a guess, so don't quote me on this
exotic scarab
well i can respect a 0-bug release or close to, as always a game will need adjustment once it hits mainstream, as a small group can only do so much as a mass group of players
the basics of the game are coming together and i'll be honest at first i was kinda skeptical on the game, but like one other team, it's actively being worked on, and from how it seems it's being kept mostly private to allow players to reserve hype and not cause overhype either
i'm extremely excited to play this game based on the uniqueness of the survival aspect, and the experience for the cooperative play
orchid field
"A delayed game can lead to a amazement but a rushed game can lead to a bad one"
Or what ever the quote was
Isk
Idm
Fuck
shadow tulip
Ubisoft breakpoint. Perfect exemple of a rushed game too.
Alongside the mtx.. but that's another story.
stiff basin
Breakpoint was brilliantly designed as a moneymaker
LOL
someone was calling it the most monetized AAA game in gaming history
vestal cove
I'd take any day a 2022 GTFO GOTY contestant over a 2019 GTFO poop rushed game
rather be like POGGERS than pepeL
actually this game has potential for GOTY
thinking about it, I'd completely play a GOTY GTFO in 1 or 2 years over playing "something that will recieve more updates", I have sincerely no doubts.
elfin mica
Damn Breakpoint... it's an alarming game... :/
warm sand
Lets take that to general chat. This is for gtfo related discussion.
vestal cove
can we eat the eggs the monsters drop
warped swan
i'm gonna say i'm sorry beforehand.
full peak
yes
vestal cove
LET US EAT THE EGGS
harsh mountain
Go on.
full peak
please no
full peak
they do have eggs
that’s what’s spilling out of the creatures when they’re shooting them in the trailer
shadow tulip
No, there won't be any tie-in with game from another company. 10CC was clear about it.
GTFO is its own game in its own setting.
thorny urchin
Still no news on the Alpha??
warped swan
No news yet :)
See the roadmap:
limpid yarrowBOT
You can view the roadmap here: https://gtfothegame.com/roadmap/
proper spear
getting there..! 🙂
scenic frost
what will be first, star citizen: squadron 42 or gtfo 🙂
scenic frost
hehe, i know i follow it every week, and that road map is constantly updating and renewing , swapping features for next quarter etc
thorny urchin
Cheers guys 🤞
warped swan
np
harsh mountain
@thorny urchin Hey guess what, the roadmap was updated just now, only one point in progress left.
orchid field
Oh hecc
orchid field
shakey eyes .gif
harsh mountain
Pretty nice.
Just a bit over 2 weeks we got a roadmap update, I assume we could have one at the end of this month as well.
Heck, I'd even bet we having the Alpha this month. All tho I'm not going to do that.
orchid field
Speaking of the alpha. I have no one to do it with ;-;
orchid field
Ye
UTC 6:00 Central time
I can do it in the nights which may make me suffer but in a fun way
flint reef
@orchid field I am in central time as well. Can play evenings and weekends. Just depends if I don't have anything else going on to prevent me from playing.
river quail
Can't wait to test the game T.T
orchid field
Same man.
proper spear
soon!
silver vortex
Honestly surprised you devs did so much in-house testing without being able to restart missions without quitting. Seems like that would've been a huge hassle.
orchid field
I would believe if they screw up they close out of the game and restart that way
Unless there's a intro menu e.e
proper spear
Yeah, I mean in early stages, you just have debug menus etc anyways.
And a restart is more job than you think 🙂
It's not about just restarting the level in itself, since we do MP, everything have to sync, and what you had picked up and have in your backpack etc etc
the list goes on
silver vortex
so many crashes i imagine
testing is a real journey lol
or should i say "expedition" LOL
somber tide
It takes a lot of work to develop games, sadly from my understanding many developers at major companies are underpaid.
Plus crunch hours is a huge standard for many companies now, but it's slowly being worked on.
silver vortex
Well I sure hope the people at 10 chambers aren't underpaid and over-crunched!
shadow tulip
With that 1 month vacation time
orchid field
Cause for sure hell the hype is real
shadow tulip
They got no publisher pushing their back too.
shadow tulip
Soo it's all quality developing time on GTFO, and not Quantity time.
shadow tulip
They also all know each other, 9 friends and coworkers working together to bring GTFO to life.
proper spear
that's how it is 🙂
harsh mountain
Planned: 2019
dark sigil
remember "release 2018"
harsh mountain
Until the Alpha is out, we don't know anything
The game was originally gonna come out in 2018 yes, but they had some bumps in developement so it had to be delayed.
But there was some great progress made during this time, so stay optimistic.
verbal eagle
be patient with it @dark sigil as the great gordon ramsay once said, "people will wait for good food"
vestal cove
You don't really want to have a rushed game, believe me.
Or else, play any pre-alpha version of any game that did that. Or just the old DayZ/7 days to die.
specially the 7 days to die, its first version was horrible, you don't really want that about GTFO, nobody does, be patient 😦
lofty ledge
agreed :) rushing games are mosttime a downfall
peak yew
Rushing leads to EA levels of bad. Takk yo tiem. Takk all da tiem.
scenic frost
!roadmap
harsh mountain
?t roadmap
limpid yarrowBOT
You can view the roadmap here: https://gtfothegame.com/roadmap/
visual veldt
I personally would be okay with having to do a bit of button pressing to get a restart on a mission for now in order to play... but you know...
If you suck so bad you need a restart button they should punish you for it. 🤣
warped swan
So.. punish everyone eh?
shadow tulip
Well a restart feature is pretty important. Imagine playing dark soul but everytine you die, you have to close the game and restart.
warped swan
Sounds like an awfully fun time to me
shadow tulip
And your progress/soul/item are lost.
harsh mountain
Gtfo ezpez
dense jasper
warped swan
Or will you
harsh mountain
I wouldn't worry if I was you.
tight crag
I saw Joker last night I am becoming him
warped swan
You made a bad joke
tight crag
okay
prisma wing
Hey guys, I was looking in rules and #live-streams but I didn't see anything about an embargo or NDA when the alpha/beta goes live.
warped swan
Hello @prisma wing.
There is no set Date for the Alpha, Beta nor Early Access :)
Although the Alpha will come out soon 😄
prisma wing
I understand that of course 🙂 I was just wondering if it will have an NDA or if content creators will be able to showcase the game.
warped swan
They will most likely be able to stream/record the game. To make people understand it is early access/alpha/beta, there will probably be a watermark in a corner of the game 🙂
twilit thicket
What Faye said, but there won't be any NDA.
prisma wing
Perfect! I'm pretty accustomed to EA, alpha and beta games, so I know how temper reactions to bugs and such 😆 I got a bunch of friends interested, and as an ambassador it'll be a great chance to show them what I'm excited about.
warped swan
👌 😄
coral bane
charred radish
that trailer though 👀 😮
manic prairie
in any case, in a few days our greedy fingers will reach this product, it's time to wipe the monitor and mouse😋
twilit thicket
@manic prairie just to set expectations, it's a gameplay trailer that is dropping on monday, not the ability to play it yourself. The alpha is still TBD for a date, but is soon.
manic prairie
what is meant, the stream how developers play or something else, did not quite understand
"longer trailer on monday" ok
shadow tulip
My guess is, it will be a gameplay session with 1 IGN journalist and 3 10CC devs. Video might have cut session to only showcase important stuff and gameplay.
tight crag
I got the news too! So exciting
charred radish
major hype
misty vapor
Wow that cinematic trailer looks incredible
manic prairie
foam launcher^ what do you think he will do? cleaning infected surfaces, foaming doors?🙃
shadow tulip
I guess it's the foam launcher.. it launch foam
Could be the glue gun. Used to slow down enemy and close door.
lofty ledge
so played gtfo last year on gamescom, and to answer that question it is like a gel launcher, it launches gel that slows down enemies movement drastically
modest patio
Regarding Alpha 1 testing, anyone know how we will be able to report found bugs, glitches, broken things, etc? I assume there will be a protocol right?
full peak
I think that there will probably be a discord channel and a steam forums category
twilit thicket
There will be a form you can fill out which puts it on a Jira board that I'm helping to manage
modest patio
Very good ty
prisma sinew
Is there gonna be a blackout on streaming the alpha?
full peak
Probably not
twilit thicket
full info on that will be released likely when the alpha is announced
full peak
"You will most likely be allowed to stream during the tests, yes"
but yeah, as D0c says, official conformation will come out when it's announced
prisma sinew
Cool thanks
manic prairie
what was surprised in the new video was a sniper rifle: maps, I suppose, will have small and medium spaces + these are not professional military (prisoners / engineers).
and melee: a sledgehammer (just that?), she can fight, or also break locks, sensors
tight crag
How sniper is possible in GTFO.
tight crag
hmm
I didn't played this game but these monsters are swarm. imagine that characters use sniper rifle instead of assault rifle in an alien movie.
Can we survive!
tropic vapor
Well, they were a swarm in PD2 as well, although not as big
Also had sniper rifles in Left4Dead 2
tropic vapor
So my guess is - it hits through enemies like it does in L4D2
livid galleon
I'd say the "sniper rifle" is... well, it's what would be considered a high-powered long distance weapon in the in-doors environment.
It's considered a "sniper rifle" within the context of GTFO and its specific environment. It's not the type of weapon that you'd use to snipe an enemy from half a mile in a military simulator game... 😝
dark sigil
harsh mountain
20 meters is just far enough. 👍
I mean I saw ranges longer than that in the interview with some gameplay footage in it.
fluid maple
Has enemy variety been addressed yet
harsh mountain
Well, from what we know there are quite some types of enemies. There was a Steam forum post with some gathered info, let me search em up.
fluid maple
Sound good, once the horror wears off only the gameplay itself will be left, and we can't have fun there if there isn't a lot to shoot at
tropic vapor
As long as they nail the difficulty down it should be fine
twilit thicket
I heard the devs don't always beat the alpha expedition..
tropic vapor
Yeah, it should be fine
junior crescent
👀 excuse me what
tropic vapor
Just link it
full peak
understandable
full peak
that reminds me
harsh mountain
Fuck if I know how to do that
fluid maple
The devs of KF2 couldn't beat it on the hardest difficulty either and I steamrolled that within a few days
Gotta always make it harder than you think
But 'fair' hard, not bullet sponge and 1HKO hard
prisma wing
Not true. The guys who made ever everspace regret making it so tough. Most people they talked to at twitchcon never beat it.
fluid maple
Of course put it behind a difficulty setting
sand ridge
I think it has already been stated that there will only be one difficulty
sand ridge
Also, as far as determining what that difficulty should be, I think it would be a mistake to make it unforgivingly difficult as that would turn many people away
That isn't to say it should be easy or even average, by any means
But something easy to pick up and hard to master, which is what I get the impression they are going for
I'd be willing to guess that each mission is going to start off relatively simple and easy and progress in difficulty, making it easier to spot your own mistakes or the mistakes of your teammates as the difficulty ramps up
fluid maple
Oof, that seems like a bad decision to me
Snoozefest to some, impossible to others
Unless there's a way to regulate difficulty in-game
full peak
just like
fluid maple
Like going for real good loot
full peak
have an adaptive difficulty
sand ridge
Any game where mistakes are ruthlessly punished with no chance for fun or learning is going to drive the vast majority of people away, especially when it is a team oriented game where you have to rely on teammates being equally competent
I agree it should be extremely challenging and they have already said it will be
But that doesn't mean it should be brutally unforgiving either
sand ridge
I'm sure there will be plenty of optional opportunities to increase the difficulty, if i had to guess
for example, by having side objectives to complete outside the normal mission zone
like a side passage with a really tough enemy and some cool loot at the end
just conjecture though, and a way to offer people like you something you want
fluid maple
Yeah, something like that would be great
stiff basin
Sniper rifle more like "accurized" designated marksmen's semiautomatic battle rifle
Like the M14 or EBR?
warm sand
The Sniper seen in the recent teaser is your secondary "Special" is probably best used for picking off the Scout in one shot or to take out the Hulks/Big Guys.
scenic frost
REEE
orchid field
REEE
harsh mountain
In 2 hours and 40 minutes
lofty ledge
Who said alpha starts tomorrow?🤔
dark sigil
lofty ledge
💁🏼
dark sigil
harsh mountain
The devs have messed up good. I don't know who is responsible for the text at te end of that trailer, but if every other person thinks that the Alpha launches on October 14th, people are either not very smart or that text is missleading.
Just spittin facts here
somber tide
which text
harsh mountain
All tho im more than happy to correct people, thats what I do im a very helpful community member
Also voluntarely
shadow tulip
There no need to call people stupid if stay mistakenly took the alpha gameplay for alpha release.
harsh mountain
I'd say just keep an eye out on the IGN Youtube channel in 40 minutes, but once it's out people gonna spam it on this Discord anyways.
shadow tulip
I'll keep an eye on discord
I'm not sure if they will @everyone but you will get the alert here.
tight crag
😂
New gameplay, I can feel something
Something is big
Maybe fixed release date on the end of video? 😅
harsh mountain
Probably not
twilit thicket
@shadow tulip there will be an @ everyone
harsh mountain
Oh nice
shadow tulip
there it is
ornate egret
warped swan
"such a long time"
literally 2 days ago 😂
lofty ledge
good point Faye
😂
sand ridge
its painful watching those IGN people play lol i know its for marketing but it would be great to have some genuinely entertaining people who actually know how to play a stealth shooter
oh well, at least this means we'll be getting our own hands on it soon
novel knot
Well, only one of those people was an IGN person
late fable
wow
manic prairie
i see trailer. good. youtube compresses the graphics, everything is a little blurry🙃
manic prairie
zone bioscan for groupe, what is it for, I still do not understand🙃
lofty ledge
you have to stand in, for like opening the door shwon in the trailer
well all have to stand in
solemn kettle
Hello
harsh mountain
hey yo
proper spear
Hey Chief
twilit thicket
The date is in the future.
You're welcome ;)
fluid maple
It releases along with a stable Unity 2020.1
proper spear
you're awesome @dark sigil
dark sigil
manic prairie
I read the comments on YouTube: the main one of the negative is "potato blood", and I agree it looks strange, either it is somehow explained by the structure of the monster or unfinished. looking from the side is valuable.
% weapon condition deteriorates from firing, as it is too simple)
harsh mountain
We still don't have any information about the eggs. Are they place holders for more gore, gibs, blood and etc? This was a huge question on the previous gameplay video back in September 2018, and I don't think we had any serious answers.
I mean, if this concerns a lot of people because they think it's out of picture for the horror theme, at least let us know.
The roadmap Alpha 2 page says something about addig more gore in general.
This exactly: "More decals in the environment (blood splatter and disgusting stuff)"
manic prairie
in comments compare with kf2 is not accidental, despite the fact that in fact they are different absolutely
somber tide
the best thing after 1 min video
not a scripted gameplay vid
THANKS A LOT !!!!
nothing worse than those cringy division1 / 2 style videos
harsh mountain
nice
old ocean
As the roadmap states, the first alpha is basically testing the network and other basic functions of the game. Graphical improvements and textures will come in later testing phases.
somber tide
wow this looks siccccc
proper spear
glad you liked it maxy
dark sigil
elfin sorrel
so.................... do we start getting keys soon... this is gonna be an epic game just hope the wife does'nt forget what i look like
oh and how much are the lense wipes for the scopes???
lofty ledge
so i stick for soon ™ for the alpha acces 😂
fluid maple
bout 2 sprints away
river quail
About the video i don't feel to like a lot the weapon decaying (unless those percentage were for other purposes).. in the test video they had something like 200 more ammo to shot sunce they made a good effort at the start to keep those for later use (going with melee and quitelly) and with just 50 shots the weapons were already at 50% or less... that is completelly nonsense...
warm sand
The % means the amount of ammo remaining for that weapon/item.
misty turtle
While weapon durability sounds kind of awful, a stealthy approach for as long as possible would be more important
river quail
I do like how they did it. Conserving ammo is really important
But if it were the case to have weap durability.. that would be completelly crazy
lofty ledge
As you can see, they started with like 50% ammo in the gameplay, so idk staying stealth and keep ammo is kinda the way to go
drowsy talon
when the public tests begin?
fluid maple
When Unity releases a stable version
twilit thicket
@drowsy talon no date yet, soon
river quail
@silver vortex Ty, that is reassuring
silver vortex
np, i had the same thought. ever since dead island ive always hated weapon durability
old ocean
GTFO in-game currency is, of course, going to be potatoes.
shadow tulip
You can also get some premium currency, French fries.
old ocean
A scope lens wipe will cost 45 potatoes.
old ocean
They are a single use consumable which may only be used once and then discarded.
tiny dagger
How much potatoes would 1 french fry be?
old ocean
Currency conversion is yet to be determined. Stay tuned.
full peak
I just need lense wipes
I hate cracked/dirty/ect lenses in video games
it’s super annoying
old ocean
But little details like that add to the immersion into that world!
I mean, in GTFO, you aren't taking state of the art equipment down into the complex with you. More like gear that the Warden picked up at the local Army Surplus store.
misty turtle
Can we get a potatogun so we can use our currency as ammunition?
old ocean
I'll have to discuss that one with the Warden. Might have to bring Adam Savage in to advise.
river quail
I would REALLY love to have some sort of ambas collectible only, sort of a key holder (don't know the name preciselly) that is a POTATO lol
to attach on the weapons ingame to show off
charred radish
👀 wait a potato can it be upgraded so the weapon shoots fries too
river quail
Come on, i'm serious 😆 ! That has born as a joke but it would actually be a really awesome collectible to attach to the weapons to show off other players who came after us to prove that we were the first!
acoustic nexus
?t roadmap
limpid yarrowBOT
You can view the roadmap here: https://gtfothegame.com/roadmap/
somber tide
wondering with which graphic settings this is recorded
i read it was recorded with a 970 ?!
acoustic nexus
I'm sure a 970 will do just fine
somber tide
just wondering, i got a much better card
acoustic nexus
Most do at this point. But I'm just guessing a 970 will probably run at 1080p medium just fine.
somber tide
and i wonder how anti aliasing will be with 1440p
i saw some jagged edges
yea i know graphics are not final and all 🙂
acoustic nexus
I cant remember, did the trailer scale up past 1080p?
somber tide
all in all it looked awesome
it was available in 1080p in youtube
but youtube made dark rooms look bad
atleast on my wqhd monitor
acoustic nexus
I'm just saying that, your watching a trailer of someone else playing (probably on 1080p), which then has its quality lowered anyway because of YouTube. So, stream - youtube - and then you were upscaling to 2k. So yeah it probably looked worse.
Hopefully that made sense
somber tide
yes it made, and im sure you're right
acoustic nexus
It's like watching a 4k YouTube video on a 1080p monitor. It will look the same regardless. Except in this case it's in reverse lol
somber tide
🙂
acoustic nexus
But yeah the game looks good considering we are still in alpha
thorny urchin
I just watched the new 15mon trailer 😮😮😮
livid galleon
@thorny urchin What did you think of it?
thorny urchin
@livid galleon it looks unreal mate. Proper excited to test it. Any idea on Alpha realise??
elfin mica
@livid galleon huge compliments! I saw the video-gameplay yesterday and it is coming up pretty solid! Can't wait to test it. A lot of ideas are building in my mind!
Just for my planning, will you guys grant the chance to work out videos for content creators during the alpha test, or it will be under NDA?
prisma wing
Actually, I asked that yesterday I think, maybe a mod could whip up a Content creator FAQ or just toss the NDA answer in the content creator channel?
if I recall correctly, there will not be an NDA though
livid galleon
There will not be an NDA, and you will be allowed to stream and create videos of Alpha gameplay.
@elfin mica
@thorny urchin We are very close to releasing the Alpha, but we can't say an exact date. You have to remain patient and keep checking the public roadmap.
elfin mica
Thank You a lot!
ruby wigeon
@proper spear The Alpha looks great guys, really enjoyed watching that gameplay video.
My only suggestion is to reduce the flash when you shoot your gun. It was very bright and hard to watch for me.
thumbsup
acoustic nexus
Personally I like the muzzle flash. Its realistic actually, and makes the game more difficult to aim with and increases tension.
elfin mica
Anyway, sorry for the question but in these days I'm sooo busy due to my job and I didn't read the past conversations. Thank you for the comprension
ruby wigeon
@acoustic nexus I guess a option to turn it down would be nice. I play a lot of shooter games and they all seem to be fine but the video was a little hard to watch for me because of the bright muzzle flash.
acoustic nexus
It could be several things that made it seem bad. But I never minded the extreme muzzle flashes depending on the game. And here at least it fits the mold, so to speak. But yeah, something tells me they have an option to turn that stuff down.
ruby wigeon
Totally agree, in that type of atmosphere, youd expect bright muzzle flashes. And it fits it too like you said.
It's just a little hard for people like me and a big turn off if it ends up not being changed or having the ability to turn it down.
I guess it's a good thing they're still in the testing stages 👍
acoustic nexus
Yeah I get that.
elfin mica
I think the game in any case is designed to be "difficult" so it can be ok for the muzzle flashes. I mean, we need to test it and then report the experience after several hours of gameplay.
I'm thinking about a tutorial or "how to" for the computer stuff. In the gameplay video I saw the QUERY stuff for the computer and it is a lovely mechanic.
acoustic nexus
Mmhmm, they have some good looking mechanics. Though I am worried about trolls in a game like this. This is not the game you rush through, where as someone will definitely Leroy Jenkins it.
lofty ledge
Best way to play wpuld be woth friends or mods
Or people in here
Also for the muzzle srttings, they might add that later in the next alpha build or beta build. Lets not forget, that thry are 9 people. So it takes time to do that
acoustic nexus
I thought there was like 20 of them
lofty ledge
NoO.o
acoustic nexus
Even 20 is tiny, I just thought it was more then 9
elfin mica
I come from Escape From Tarkov and I would love and live in a total cooperative manner so I think this game will push this kind of behavior. You need to cooperate or you die in the first room...
lofty ledge
Ypu van look up every member on thier website
acoustic nexus
I'm not saying I don't believe you, but there can be people not listed on the site.
If 9 is the total number that's just insane
lofty ledge
Nah, they ate independent. And they know each other from the past
acoustic nexus
9 just boggles my mind. Even looking at payday etc
wet cairn
@livid galleon honest opinion About the trailer, it looks really intresting 
its slow and well spooky but when done right could be very cool. The fast hoard parts are also nice where Pre plan is the key or else you get overrun, weapons look also cool and the darkness and fog where also neat in design choice, making it feel claustrophobic. The computer terminal was cool and a really nice idea that you can search up the objectives. Im prob gonna go trough the trailer maybe once or twice in slow motion to see some details, oh and before i forget, about the streaming part. I hope my pc can handle it plus the game
lofty ledge
Well gtfo being worked on for a long time
acoustic nexus
Well your an ambassador, so you will get the chance
livid galleon
@wet cairn Thanks for the nice feedback and encouraging words! You'll get to try the game during the upcoming Alpha!
acoustic nexus
Emergency Medical Technican or Emergency Medical Services, Boo Boo Bus Driver also applies
wet cairn
Ohhh 
acoustic nexus
The fact the boss man is so proactive in discord makes me smile
wet cairn
No broblem Simon 
gonna try my best to find all the bugs, and well report on the stuff i like etc.
Ye Berch
acoustic nexus
wet cairn
But being EMT sounds really tough 
acoustic nexus
I've always taken care of people, it just seemed logical decision to make when choosing my career.
wet cairn
I see
Oh yeah the intro elevator was really well made, had a really scary vibe
Like those free falll towers
acoustic nexus
Power towers lol
wet cairn
acoustic nexus
One of my favorite rides at any theme park
novel knot
I've also generally just been lurking on news and details but have been an ambassador for a very, very long time
Can't wait to get my hands on it even though I'll have to look for people to play with, but I guess that shouldn't be too difficult 😄
Also, since I'm not exactly up to date on features and such, but will there be any UI customization?
Mostly wondering about size adjustments because some things in the UI could be a bit difficult to see for some people
novel knot
Yeah that much is understandable
thorny urchin
@livid galleon I did notice the glue gun ha a slight sound delay after it had been shot
livid galleon
I think that is because it sends out physics driven objects that have to be synced over the network, so the sound won't play until the host and client has "shaken hands" on where the blobs are going. It's a known bug that we'll look into. The important thing is of course that the tool works in terms of gameplay.
tough kayak
So, after watching the IGN vid:
- That intro sequence was AWESOME. Much more creepy than I expected. Very "Alien".
- Guns look great, especially that scanner.
A couple things I didn't like so much:
- UI feels less... readable than previous gameplay vids.
Looks like there's less info (teammate status?) and everything seems harder to read, maybe due to the "terminal" style font. - The first person animations during sprinting need more "shaking". It looks like the character just casually floats now.
harsh mountain
And you're right!
reef glen
hype
shadow tulip
For animation, I can tell you they don't have dedicated animator, it's all very basic and they want to focus on gameplay. At the beginning, we didn't even had reload animation, but community suggestion was taken and they took time to make some reload animation. (sorry for the delay guy I really wanted it!)
As for player status, from the gameplay and screenshot in #gtfo-media pinned section, you can hover cursor at a teammate and look at his loadout and % of ammo, health, etc.. This is by design as they want you to look and communicate with everyone. No information instantly given.
lofty ledge
also a smaller UI/Hud was also a community sugestion to be little as possible or being small and not taking over the whole screen. About the teammate Info, yes it is hard to read
somber tide
it be cool if there was a hardcore mode with no hud, but better rewards if finished with the match
lofty ledge
well the game was hard for me when i played it last year on gamescom, hopefully it stayed that hard, if so, then just playin it first, and then i think a hardcore mode would be needed
shadow tulip
You start the game in hardcore mode and cannot turn it off.
somber tide
🤔
pastel parcel
the game just looks hardcore. after watching the 15min gameplay i got even more excited to play, cant wait to purchase
somber tide
same
pastel parcel
my favorite aspect of the game is that it’s team oriented. everyone has a specific duty when playing and you can’t run and gun the entire game. makes it a bit more immersive imo
somber tide
it can backfire with randoms tho, there is always that "one guy"
prisma wing
there is always "that guy" in any game. Worse there are people who will join just to run in and get people killed because that's what trolls do... will there be any kind of moderation/report/ban feature?
nimble night
I imagine there will be lobby settings to prevent this from happening
But in any game if you play with randoms there will always be the chance of this happening
prisma wing
yeah, even something like a commendation system or review system can be abused... 😮 what about an "avoid player" button? Doesn't stop them from ruining a match, but black lists them from being put in a lobby with you again. eventually trolls would end up never getting groups
lofty ledge
well the first alpha is all about network testing, to it isn not even the full product. so we can stay tuned how they trying to get a system like that:D
wise escarp
For the network test, it will be P2P not dedicated servers right?
twilit thicket
The entire game is peer to peer, with their servers providing data storage for loot you have earned. The alpha test will always be the same loot however.
wise escarp
I remember before asking, but weren't they considering dedicated in the long run?
twilit thicket
I don't recall seeing or hearing that. Dedicated servers are a lot more expensive in terms of system administration, cost of them, etc.
I don't think dedicated servers will be needed, as its not a game where you need millisecond accuracy. Hell even Destiny doesn't have dedicated servers and their PvP mode is pretty good network wise. GTFO is less demanding than that.
wise escarp
I only worry about it since i had to move from a high speed connection to DSL 25 megabit down and 1 up
P2P if there are any remote routing issues and i have a fun day, will mean no good P2P servers
If there is a dedicated closer, i wouldn't have to worry as much about latency of the peer far away
also gaming outside my region if they were connecting in centralized
warped swan
Hey apollonius,
I would recommend testing with friends in the Alpha & Beta. 🙂
regal bay
I can play GTFO to early access ?
old ocean
There's no date for Early Access or Full Release, yet, but the Alpha is coming soon, and as an Ambassador, you'll get to play it.
regal bay
@old ocean Ok, It's okay.
Thanks !
vestal cove
OOHHH SO THAT WAS THE ELEVATOR
really cool
looks perfectly playable
I've seen games release without looking as polished as GTFO is right now, great work dev team!
regal bay
You can thanks me 😂
vestal cove
(I just saw the trailer btw, I'm a busy guy)
regal bay
your night will be happy
prisma wing
Not gonna lie, I hope we get to take the elevator on halloween. (I know there is no date, but that would be super cool)
old ocean
Yeah, obviously, the game itself is playable, as media members have been playing the game since at least E3 2018, with gameplay footage taken from earlier dev builds. However, if you look at the roadmap, the biggest issue is the Quick Restart. As of right now, as I understand it, after you finish an expedition (Either through success or failure), you have to completely restart the game before you can run another expedition (ie Alt-F4 out of it and relaunch).
misty turtle
Interesting. Why doesnt it work to send the players back to main menu and restart from there?
If there is a main menu
shadow tulip
Coding issue, programming is hard stuff most of us don't really know
old ocean
The version I played at E3 2018, at least after a failed expedition, you were just returned to the lobby, supposedly ready to drop back into it for another attempt.
I didn’t get that far, as I only had like 20 minutes between media appointments.
indigo breach
Maybe the main game isn't nested in a menu, or it's hard to delete terrain or something, just a wild guess.
hasty tulip
Well hell9
indigo breach
now that I think about it more, I think we don't have a "menu location" or something similar, so everything might be coded more towards "one game" and not towards replayability
old ocean
The Alpha will be a single map with a single objective type with randomized enemy and resource spawns as well as a randomized objective location and no character/gear progression, however, the full game will have a number of different maps (of varying size and difficulty) and character/gear progression.
indigo breach
from what I heard maps will be randomized for now but later they will be more polished
twilit thicket
The alpha will only have one map. That's a fact
vestal cove
I mean it took me like 5 days to modularize a janky ass plugin from another game, and went from a 1500 lines spaghetti code to a really nice looking "manager" and some functions to register the commands for that thingey (it was a command manager for SCP-079 in le funny intercom shouting game)
and I was doing that like 24/7 between loading screens
so the quick restart feature is either a rewrite of the entire loading system (that's what I did, but again, was a 1500 line spaghetti where I just needed to move stuff around) or they just have to work with what they have and if they didn't take into account quick restarts back then it's a really hard task to accomplish
harsh mountain
The Alpha 1 will have a single playable mission, the Alpha 2 introduces 3 more.
If I got this right
vestal cove
I think they stated that in the roadmap
harsh mountain
Yep
vestal cove
but again, having to Alt+F4 and reload everything might get annoying over time so it's not a surprise they're delaying the pre-alpha for that
harsh mountain
It would be a disaster
Imagine this game having a kinda-public Alpha testing, and then the players havr to alt+f4 every time
I doubt it would make "GTFO image" any better
vestal cove
not a disaster like No Man's Sky but people would find many loading bugs so by the time they'd have it, they'd also have to fix another ton of tiny errors probably related to Unity anyways
harsh mountain
So the devs are no dummies, and release an Alpha that's not a pain in the butt to use and play.
harsh mountain
Yeah..
vestal cove
thank god every dev nowadays go for the stable pre-alpha rather than publishing some shit just to get a few people happy
the only ones that are not like "Yeah, all you've seen is cool and all but we're not done" and people say "Wait, wtf, but everything works perfectly?" are the ones from Valfaris with Unexplored 2, I softlocked in their pre-alpha like 10000 times by now xD
warped swan
^~^
vestal cove
me too
probably had this game been published two months ago, I wouldn't be playing it right now
that's what happened with 80% of Fortnite OGs
and that was a great example of a game that made their players keep playing it for a really long time so...
meh, don't know, but I prefer them taking it slowly, and still what has been shown is really awesome, keep it up devs 
drifting dock
But they are making it slow anyway. They've announced the game years ago and set a release for Fall 2018 (then Spring 2019, now Fall 2019 which will probably not happen again). At this point we are not choosing between fast and slow, but we are choosing between slow and very slow, but polished. Having Closed Alpha with major bugs is not a problem. It's part of the solution. Having many players to test and report issues is a boon for developers (big companies pay massive amount of salaries for QA departments). Actually the faster GTFO come to us (in closed non public environment) the faster it will improve and evolve.
eternal oxide
imma bet they'll release it on spooky day 
orchid field
Bet
modern jolt
lmao
wet cairn
not even joking 
wet cairn
modern jolt
exactly
indigo breach
imagine it, in a vr where you can move freely
warped swan
.. imagine
modern jolt
shook
orchid field
Headbutt the creatures while screaming YA YEET!
vestal cove
@drifting dock well, yes. But think of hype as a big balloon 🎈. So this hype balloon for GTFO is getting bigger each day, and if they released the game at any point the balloon will lose some air, so when things are 100% done to be a good Game of the Year competitor maybe the Manhattan-sized balloon has turned into a really little kids balloon that has so little air that nobody would care at that point, because people would be done with GTFO by the time they actually 100% got it. Not because it would be a good game, but because people would be tired of it of having played it too much.
I'm even considering not telling my friends to become ambassadors of this game just so they don't get bored quickly after 2 or 3 matches, well maybe because they get tired of games really quick but yeah those guys are exaggerate but remember when everyone was literally screaming for new battle royales?
acoustic nexus
I honestly expect to get bored soon during the alpha. It's just the one stage if I remember correctly. And it's going to have a ton of bugs, and there will be little to no replayability. It's going to be work, essentially. Fun work, but still work.
twilit thicket
And it's going to have a ton of bugs, and there will be little to no replayability.
I think you will be pleasantly surprised. The devs are working hard to reduce as many of the major bugs as possible, and even the medium ones too, so there shouldn't be very many noticeable bugs. You'll be able to restart the expedition and go back in to try again if you fail, improve, get better, etc.
shadow tulip
Replayability? try to solo the expedition for all the alpha access 😅
indigo breach
I will try to solo it
indigo breach
you could play payday solo, with wonky bots
shadow tulip
No bots in GTFO
indigo breach
will there by anything to make things easier in solo-ing the game?
like more ammo or more drops?
indigo breach
If I play solo then I try to get all additional firepower I can, so for example I would take a shitton of turrets
somber tide
I would only play solo so I won't get yelled at by my teammates when I F up the mission
old ocean
You can take only 1 tool with you. If you choose the turret, you only get one.
livid marten
bet
livid marten
Ah sorry @dense jasper , works being a little bit of a cuck lately, and schools gettin harder. Dm me some time 🙂
wet cairn
SoonTM GTFO, also realizing when i will playnit i prob SCREAM like a girl 
Cause i get scared very easily, and then panic, and then ded
harsh mountain
Nice
wet cairn
My bet is still on october 31
warped swan
🙂
eternal oxide
i wish they could alert us when will the alpha is
so that I can prepare myself
grab some Mt. Dew and Chips for a long expedition
warped swan
They will alert you when it's open 😛
somber tide
Hi mates
Ive been overwhelmed by classes lately and an injury but I have more freetime
warped swan
Hello ghost! Welcome back!
somber tide
It was only a few days but geology labs are painful
I had to get mine moved back a week because of a migraine rip
somber tide
She didn’t count it against me, since I have a medical excuse but Taking it next week is kinda nice since I have more time to study but I have a lot coming up next week
twilit thicket
Let's try to keep this more directly about GTFO please and keep the other conversations in #general or #amba-general please and thanks
somber tide
Im sorry @twilit thicket I thought I was in amba general
cold hill
So the next phase is beta 1?
twilit thicket
the next phase is alpha 1, that's coming soon.
cold hill
For new ambassadors, is there still a chance for us to get invited?
twilit thicket
Yup, you anyone who's an ambassador can still participate in the alpha once it launches
hidden tulip
yay!
full peak
You're not invited
it's open to all ambassadors
oh yikes that was some lag, thanks discord
half basin
when will alpha launches?
twilit thicket
soon
graceful laurel
Okay, like, I get it, people are hype, but why are people asking "when" every single day? When something happens (a date or the alpha itself coming out) there will be a ping and an email.
It'll come out when it does, and when the devs can give a date they will.
twilit thicket
this is correct
wise escarp
People are impatient, we live in a now society. I only waited 6+ years for NS2 and even after it came out being disappointed i played it like a champion until my face exploded from pubology
tight crag
There is a good spot on 2019. 12/25. Santa will come for us.
somber tide
lol
somber tide
D:
uneven jay
some sweet news indeed
manic prairie
Has anyone already received the key in the mail?
keen swift
Yes! just try it every few minutes
warm sand
If you haven't received a key then the bot is being overloaded.
fickle wind
Ooof.
fickle wind
Same.
uneven jay
It is nice that we can stream it that should be fun
odd sorrel
So hyped for the game gonna be "Best game 2020" for sure
manic prairie
20 minutes, the keys have still not arrived (((
lean cairn
Give it time @manic prairie
misty turtle
Youre not gonna be able to play the game for another 4 days, so plenty of time for keys to arrive
😉
neat bane
I got mines already but jesus the Bot is being overloaded 
uneven jay
yeah i try again in a bit or so
tribal orbit
onyx nymph
i got mine at once 2mins ago
manic prairie
in pre-alpha I can play:
- only with friends (those who received 3 additional keys)?
- with friends in Steam (who received the key on their own)?
- there will be a search for players in the lobby?
hidden tulip
With friends in steam, just has to be someone who also is in the alpha
reef grove
twilit thicket
@manic prairie You can only play the alpha with other people that have the alpha, doesn't matter if they got it from your gifts you have, or if they get a key themselves. The people you play with will need to be on your friends list. When you start the game you can see lobbies that are available, and invite people.
hidden tulip
It's a 3-4GB download from what i hear
solemn topaz
It's around 4GB for the download and around 10GB installed
lofty ledge
Anf also we might get another shot at halloween ;) for a longe rperiod maybe but we should stay tuned
somber tide
hello
warped swan
Hello!
somber tide
cant wait to play this game
warped swan
Neither can we 😉
proper spear
I cant wait you for guys to get to play the game 😄
fluid maple
I can't wait to bully the dev team with pages of bug reports for releasing the alpha on monday
proper spear
haha
warped swan
Good luck with writing those pages!
fluid maple
Also T-Posing after a *successful solo run
old ocean
I look forward to seeing that!
warped swan
Be sure to record it so the devs (and us) can see it!
uneven mountain
I'll definitely be attempting to stream it, and upload the raw footage to YT.
I don't have a lot of followers, but hey! It'd be more PoVs and things for the devs to look at.
solemn topaz
The more the better!