@acoustic glacier So whats up with the alien style room from the email?
#amba-general
waxen halo
oak arch
It's just a random screen shot we were given in the most recent email
They didn't provide any context to it, that's for us to decipher
waxen halo
It looks like alien
oak arch
Yaya that's what everyone's saying lol
waxen halo
a room filled with alien eggs but they aren't
Probs those "sleepers"
Or maybe cocoons That turn people into those things
rain birch
I know it's p2p but if you do get any standalones or i can tweak the client i'll rent some dedi's for the america's
I also have a couple servers with extra resources
slim heron
Ah I see now
slim heron
Ooh who gets access to the Beta?
waxen halo
All of us ammbassadors
waxen halo
Same
slim heron
Was kinda let down by a few of the releases this year
waxen halo
i get my new computer after chrismas sadly
slim heron
Hopefully GTFO will revitalize my thirst for a good game 😃
rain birch
From a small business owner that does IT, i can gurantee i'll be bending hours and having busy morning from playing this all night
slim heron
After Christmas isnt bad - are you talking about the day or the holidays
waxen halo
So many fucking games this year are not what they showed in trailers
slim heron
true true
waxen halo
Well its coming in the mail
slim heron
Fallout 76 cough
rain birch
The Dev's listening and interacting with everyone is a good sign it will be what it should though
slim heron
yeah yeah
waxen halo
Well even with all the bugs Fallout was still a playable gam,e
waxen halo
OWD?
slim heron
Overkills Walking Dead
rain birch
Anything Walking Dead i wouldn't rely on though
waxen halo
Ah
rain birch
Most games based off shows turn out to be crap :/
waxen halo
Ah
rain birch
Metro is one of the series i've actually really enjoyed all the way through
My guilty pleasure is the F.E.A.R series though
Even after it was corporatized and hoolandered
slim heron
yeah same mate
never played FEAR, my brothers played it and they were bloody shaken haha
but that was 10+ yrs ago
rain birch
The first ones with their blocky glory were actually pretty scary, they took on the flash scares and heavy ambient sounds to get you
Similar to Amnesia, i am a sucker for hearing and not seeing. It's almost more scary than seeing what you are fighting. Not knowing what is coming, then BAM. Unfortunately then the shock value (some) is lost
slim heron
yeah yeah
hearing is scary as hell
even watching walkthroughs or lets plays of horror games
Im just filled with dread
waxen halo
But Dbd is more toxic and after a bit of playing its not scary anymore
besides small moments when u get jumpscared\
@jovial stream what are 10cc going to do to stop hackers and or unfair mods?
jovial stream
As far as I know they haven't shared any information about anti-cheat
molten holly
I mean it's not like its a PvP game so unless there's a leaderboard thing then I cant see how cheaters would negatively effect players
Not that I approve of cheating
I just don't think it's going to be a huge issue
waxen halo
I feel like it would be Just cus people are shit and would cheat
rain birch
Yea when you are playing and suddenly realize one guy is just mowing everything down and you are just following along is blah
or enter a game and insta win it is self defeating
waxen halo
^
molten holly
That's when you leave and block?
You have all the power in your keyboard
At the end of the day you cannot stop cheaters
Not with anti hack software
The only way to deal with cheaters is players reporting them and in turn recording every game that is ever played then storing it on the server for reference when someone is reported
rain birch
Admiral that is not necessarily true, then you need someone to monitor those reports and extra man power. P2P means they just need to focus on client changes, modified files, and patterns during gameplay. Modifiers more or less health and ammo ect... There were a few older games that were almost impossible to hack without completely modifying the core game files or hex editing with something like cheat engine that emerged later
Hex Editor was some peoples best friends during the original diablo days, that is not to include the bot netting and rebooting of battle.net
Of course things have come a long way since the original starcraft, diablo, and battle.net that could be cloned to an IRC type of server lol
molten holly
I'm just saying there's never been a game that is cheat proof no matter how good the anti cheat is
The only way to stop cheaters is to have someone monitoring them and people reporting them
waxen halo
waxen halo
I feel like this was meant to bring more hype/discussion but i don't think it worked XD
left basalt
Everyone tries to figure out what I could be but yea it is Christmas so understandable :D
waxen halo
No not good enough
waxen halo
Nah if they were facehuggers they wouldn't need to be big enough to fit a man in them
molten holly
Unless it's face hugger hobb goblins
waxen halo
Ahh shit yea
molten holly
waxen halo
WE NEED TO TELL EVERYONE
THIS IS A BREAK THRU
by that i mean do nothing and have those who read this remember it
Then that means the glowing orange ones are Goblin champions and goblin lords
Or just lords we don't know about golbin physiology
molten holly
Nah they just ate too many glow sticks before hybernating for winter
waxen halo
Or those glowing fleshlights
Those goblins sucking so doesn't sound far off something they would do\
goblins love sucking*
molten holly
woah
waxen halo
what 2 much?
molten holly
I think we need to make our own version of GTFO
waxen halo
XD
molten holly
GTFO goblin sex adventure
it can be a standalone DLC
We will just go with an R rating
waxen halo
and we also need it to be darker then the anime/manga and light novel put together
of goblin slayer
We will go with 30 episodes Each one gets darker and darker
waxen halo
Yes
waxen halo
yes we need this
waxen halo
And thats how goblins are born
molten holly
I am far to good at taking something and running with it
waxen halo
There has 2 be like 3 people just watching and going what the fuck
molten holly
It takes a lot of make me uncomfortable
molten holly
I just really didnt know where to take it next tbh
waxen halo
We need more of the fucking anime to come out so we can continue this
waxen halo
I got all my material from the anime
molten holly
nah thats gonna get you in trouble hands down
molten holly
Lol
waxen halo
I felt a ban incoming
molten holly
Doesn't look like they have a logging bot
waxen halo
the feelings gone now
molten holly
So you might be all G
molten holly
Garbage fries with classic cheese burgers
waxen halo
Oof
molten holly
Its way too hard to pick the best bit
waxen halo
What like just from the freezer? then chucked in the microwave?
or been out for fucking ever and went soggy?
molten holly
Do you have a moment to speak about my lord and saviour garbage fries?
waxen halo
what literal trash fries
molten holly
Its french fries with onion rings and topped with fried pickles
Then drizzled with melted cheese
waxen halo
Fried pickles wtf
waxen halo
Yum bacon
molten holly
My missus ate the pickles
waxen halo
I fucking can't stand pickles
Alright im out for 2nite I have alot of drinking ahead of me tommorow
molten holly
Lol
Armature
Start drinking tonight
That way you can't get drunk tomorrow because you already are drunk
waxen halo
XD
molten holly
And you can't get hung over as long as you keep drinking
waxen halo
Does it count how my fathers a aboosive drunk?
molten holly
Always remember alcoholism isn't a problem.
Running out of alcohol is.
waxen halo
Just get to the point where u get so drunk ur not drunk anymore
molten holly
Lol
waxen halo
lmao ok bai bai
stoic pendant
🥞
minor dagger
gray phoenix
Merry Christmas EVERYONE https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=9&v=tMW19scI2g0
stoic pendant
🥞
oak arch
🥞
gleaming agate
All of you, stop it, get some help.
oak arch
🥞
molten holly
Elitist mode engage
oak arch
raises pinky
molten holly
Lol
warm crescent
alright , time to decide, tomorrow what should I get? Intel motherboard for 8th gen processors, or ryzen motherboard. I'm starting off buying the motherboard first then as weeks go by buying everything else. Help me decidee, its a pretty hard choice tbh
young basin
Ryzen mobo gives you ample option to upgrade
But its estimated that zen 2 chips won't arrive until march so you'll be stuck with something like a 2700x
Which is perfectly fine for most gaming
If you absolutely need the per core performance right now (and are happy to spend a bunch more) you should go intel
warm crescent
but if im just mostly , gaming and like very little map rendering cause of hammer which would excel. ? I mostly just game tbh, not much else.
warm crescent
anyone else got any opinions?
warm crescent
i5-8400 is the processor im getting, then upgrading later on down the road to i7-8700, not overclocking, then possibly to the i9
young basin
If you want something like the i9 you have no choice but intel because AMD has no product to compete in that space yet
If you're getting an i5 now though
You could get an R7 for similar or slightly less cost with comparable or even better performance (check benchmarks because I don't have them on hand)
And one thing about the amd cpus is that they're all overclockable and are all hyperthreaded
warm crescent
I'm getting a 1050ti 4gb, I play mostly games like Arma 3, Friday the 13th, (Soon to be GTFO ), ( Soon to be Doom Eternal ), Rainbow six seige, PUBG, Dead By Daylight, gmod and csgo sometimes. Which one would be best to handle all these games at more than 70fps medium settings, at 1440x900p resolution ( monitor does not support 1920x1080p )
young basin
Well with the 1050ti you may end up just being gpu bound anyway
Although I can't really say for sure for r6s, pubg, arma, and friday the 13th
warm crescent
what do you mean gpu bound
young basin
Your CPU won't even be completely utilised because it will be waiting for your gpu
Heard of "bottlenecking"?
jovial stream
His monitor is pretty low resolution for 2018 so 1050ti seems fine.
young basin
True
And he is running at medium
But he still probably won't gain a shitton of performance from an i7
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ idk its a fine balancing act
jovial stream
For 1440x900 it probably doesnt require a whole lot to run.
Last time i dealt with that res was like 2007
warm crescent
im not planning on switching to the i7 till I get a better gpu and monitor lol
by the time i get that ill be in a better financial situation lol
but yeah 1440x900 is a pretty low resolution tbh, it bugs me sometimes
young basin
I know the pain
warm crescent
but i mean
at the same time im glad its this res
cause if i had a 1080p monitor
i would not be able to play games at that res rn
young basin
You can always change the res to 720p
And you'd be at a modern aspect ratio that just about every game supports
warm crescent
1280 by 720?
winged oyster
merry Christmas everyone
tulip coyote
merry christmas 
granite plover
minor dagger
gleaming agate
Dear lord, not general too!
minor dagger
The influence of kitten gang grows
gleaming agate
Now imma start and emoji gang
And then the real disease will spread
DON'T MAKE ME DO IT!
waxen halo
My gang is going to be called Shi no tenshi Cus it sounds fucking badass
and it means angels of death So we will bring death to all the Mfs who fuck with us
minor dagger
Sounds like Slayer fans gang
waxen halo
But shi no tenshi sounds cooler
hollow tapir
Merry Christmas all
waxen halo
is it just christmas for u?
hollow tapir
Wym
waxen halo
Im not just askin
Like wondering if ur in america or something
Its been christmas all day for us aussies
hollow tapir
Im in Germany dont matter where u at u got it right?
waxen halo
Ye Just askin cus why not
mint plaza
We want more screenshots XD
fleet bison
Yeah.
somber root
Should be. I'm running a 1050Ti 6GB i7-7700 setup that runs Destiny 2 pretty well. Should be fine with GTFO.
next fossil
yeah @warm crescent your computer should be fine they are using computers from 2014 to 2015 so you should be fine .. .information is from steam forums 3) What is the minimum/recommended PC specs for GTFO?
We are confident that GTFO will be well optimized and not demand too much of your computer. In any case, GTFO is not meant to be a ultra high requirement, "benchmark test" sort of product. The development team uses computers from around 2014-2015 to play the unoptimized development version of the game and even capture trailer video footage (Intel i7 4790, GeForce GTX 970, 16 Gb RAM.)
warm crescent
i wasn't really asking about gtfo cause iknow i should be able to run it fine, i just want to know if there was any bottlenecking involved with a i5 8400 and 1050ti
welp looks im joining the intel family finally :D
somber root
Yeah, I made the move from AMD to Intel a few years ago. AMD was once fun to build computers around, but Intel has definitely picked it up in these last two generations or so. the i9 is an absolute beast.
next fossil
price tag is not though 😦
what settings did you want to play games at @warm crescent
low - high
somber root
Yeah... gonna be a couple of years before I can build a system around an i9
next fossil
talking about the i9 cpu price tag is not friendly
i barely got an i7 XD and i'm happy and now they make a i9 FML XD
i was rocking an i5 2500k for five years and this generation of gaming what caused me to be forced to upgrade
warm crescent
i thikn i might've made a mistake
so when i first looked up my motherbaord a couple months ago it said it was micro atx, so i assumed my motherboard was micro atx, but rn looking it up again it's saing it's a ATX motherboard
the intel motherboard i bought is a micro atx, will it still fit ? I don't know the case I'm using cause it's a prebuilt pc case from cyberpower and I can't find the model the anymore lol
next fossil
will it still fit in the case or will the cpu fit and work ? is the question?
can you look at your previous order history to find the case at cyberpower?
warm crescent
i ordered it last year and my grandma gave it to me as a gift,
i managed to find it,
i looked through google images
next fossil
cool
warm crescent
this is the prebuilt pc i bought, i changed processor to highest i can have which is amd fx 8350, and i changed gpu to 750ti
next fossil
btw the model of the purchase should be back of the case or somewhere around it as well
that looks like a mid tower
next fossil
a mirco ? yeah there should be plenty of space for that motherboard
here we go this is your model number GUA520
warm crescent
yeah i linked to it up toop the computer I have lol
I was just a bit worried cause I know some cases that are ATX don't support micro,
next fossil
The motherboard is a mATX. Please feel free to call us if you have any other questions at 1.800.707.0393.
can't believe it took me so long to find that information XD
bestbuy helped out
that's true though ...
warm crescent
wait which motherboard are you talking about ? my current motherbaord on this pc ? or the motherboard i bought
next fossil
you know what there has been five other revisions on that model
coral pier
that is clearly not ATX
warm crescent
So theres 2 models of this on amazon
next fossil
i forgot models are diffferent
coral pier
all 78LMT's are microATX
coral pier
according to sellers on amazon**
it's still clearly visible that the board isn't ATX
ATX boards have like 6 PCI slots
they tall bois
warm crescent
lmfao
well thats nice to though lol thanks !
do you have any monitor recommendations ? 1080p ? less than 140$ 24"
past mirage
got 2 and am happy with these so far https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0058UUR6E/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o08_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1 & you can get em for 95 when on sale which happens often.
decent for some budget purchases at least ;p
past mirage
I got the 23.6's as the 24's at the time were out of stock
gray phoenix
minimum 1080p
but dont get higher than 24inch u start seeing squares because of resolution too small
nocturne gust
main raptor
1080 best
next fossil
Ultimately matters on budget and type of games you play for 1440p with 144hz... I don't get it if you go 1440 and go only 60 to 75hz ...
jovial stream
1080p is still standard if you're a competitive-type gamer
frame rates are most important to certain people than resolution
bright dock
Remember back when gpus are the most expensive part of the whole pc building business
Now it's monitors
waxen halo
With my computer atm I am forced to play games with 5-10 FPS on lowest settings
I get the worst of both worlds
terse zinc
I need a new CPU and my computer will be pretty much set for general game play
Nothing too fancy but currently the cpu is trash
abstract hull
1440p is nice
random kite
@terse zinc what cpu do you got now?
jaunty zinc
Wasssssappp
empty jetty
Hey!
versed terrace
sup
prisma goblet
any words on hiding the UI, names above players etc for a more immersive experience? :)
keen crag
@prisma goblet As usual We can’t promise when you’ll get specific features since we really can’t know. But I can’t see hiding UI elements being a problem to implement in our settings.. I’m already doing that for some screenshots and captures so we would just have to formalize the setting a bit.
prisma goblet
@keen crag Thanks for the response! Yeah, I was thinking for recording purposes. We'll see once we get closer to release I guess :)
somber root
I’m hoping for a UI opacity setting, so that we can ‘dim’ the UI for darker encounters...
terse zinc
@random kite intel pentium
steel talon
oofff
unique creek
oi gents
mossy pewter
oi1
old heron
Happy new year lads and lassies, Cheers!
gray phoenix
Happy new year !!!
rancid patio
happy new year from Cologne 😄
upper stirrup
Happy New Year from the UK! ❤
lone pier
i gotta wait a few hour until im allowed to say that
but in the mean time
lets share new years resolutions
i want to lose 40 pounds and release my game
any1 else?
gleaming agate
Clean my house. Every room. Spotless.
granite plover
Be a better person, as my illness has affected me deeply
young basin
Whoops i forgot about new years resolutions
granite plover
I know mine is kinda vague, so a part of it is seeing my sister in person for the first time in 5-6 years
upper stirrup
That sounds like a good resolution if I've ever heard one
upper stirrup
Honestly I'm wondering if I want to meet my aunt that I've never met.
Maybe I should do that, heh.
gleaming agate
Dew it
lethal dagger
Anyone who wants to play BFV, borderlands, hunt showdown, or do some dusk mp until GTFO comes out hmu.
I'm also on Diablo 2 Median XL starting the 18th
gleaming agate
Hunt is a meme
waxen halo
Life is a meme
slim lark
white spire
modest pewter
gleaming agate
👌 💦 😔 😐 🤔 😶 😂 👌 🍆 🙄 🔪 😾 😇 😓 💦 👌 😂 😂 💦 💦 😊 😊 😐 😎 😌 🤓 😍
oak arch
abstract hull
neat dagger
young basin
gleaming agate
🇬 🇪 🇺
young basin
🇺
gleaming agate
🇾 🇪 🇪
flint magnet
🇩
lone pier
🇦 🇭 🇭 🇮 🇳 🇪 🇪 🇩 🇦 🇲 🇪 🇩 🇮 🇨 🅱 🇦
vestal steeple
A canvas bag? 👀
gleaming agate
Don't make me pull out my Fallout 76 Canvas bag that was delayed for a very long time you mongrel
bright dock
todd howard you son of a bitch
remote linden
🇳 
astral swift
gray phoenix
whats with the troll spam ?
oak arch
white spire
high marsh
What up gang, uhhh warden has continued to not respond with my messages. still hoping the warden comes around and lets me take em on a date
vivid nova
The Warden is a shy one
vivid nova
gleaming agate
I didn't need to see that
earnest orbit
sudden lichen
gleaming agate
W
gleaming agate
Huh?
gleaming agate
U
tight gust
lone pier
n
gleaming agate
Someone deleted their uwu comment
upper stirrup
🇺 🇼 🇺
oak arch
uwu
lone pier
attention devs you should add a character who only has slap melee and his only line is "sleep"
it will make game 20% better
young basin
oddjob?
upper stirrup
Ah yes, that would be excellent
These horrifying eldritch monsters of the deep and you're just like "I'm gonna slap it"
upper stirrup
Why? Are you scared someone might catch them?
modest pewter
gleaming agate
🇪 🇸
lone pier
🇮 🇾 🇺 🇷 🎄
arctic jungle
latent rose
split lotus
I hardly see any one in the voice chats
And i dont want to go into one and then no one joins
For like an hour
cloud stream
Correct.
This ambassador general will be the just talking chat once they close applications for ambassadors.
Currently, it holds no difference then the other general. But will soon enough 😄
oak arch
🇵
ripe meteor
vivid nova
oak arch
@ripe meteor thats how mafia works
split lotus
Owners are lvl 10000 god 😉
white spire
Thats how mafia works 🤷
modern mural
the warden aka the ruler of all aka the god aka the creater of worlds aka the the big bang
cosmic flume
bazinga
torn dew
why would you say that Draza 
oak arch
🇧 azinga
modest pewter
Obunga
split lotus
Bung
gleaming agate
😩
split lotus
split lotus
barren sun
upper stirrup
runs off to tell the mods
tall pond
Tʜɪs Bᴀɴs Mᴇ
vivid nova
white spire
vestal blade
gilded quail
torn dew
near pebble
-
kind epoch
oak arch
🅱
split lotus
go see a dermatologist
plain dagger
mossy fulcrum
Alright
So
Fallout 76 was bad
But I have hope in 10CC to make the best co-op experience in 2019
bright dock
i would definitely trust 10cc
upper stirrup
is gonna be
mossy fulcrum
Hope so
2018 was the year of battle royale
2019 gonna be probably also battle royale but if we could have some other titles that woukd be grest
signal nebula
bright dock
thanks, i hate it
waxen halo
I dislike battle royal.. so this year was not mine
mossy fulcrum
Failed to mention it's a mod for the game and not official.
warm crescent
Just bought 16gb of ddr4 ram first time having more than 8gb
Now i judt need cpu and gpu and ill be set
mossy fulcrum
@warm crescent what is your pc system build
@warm crescent you have to tell me i want to know
warm crescent
My current system is a prebuilt but I've changed the processor , OS Drive, gpu and cpu cooler. Rn I'm changing to intel, so im buying new ram, cpu , and motherboard. I've already got the motherboard bought, and ram i just bought it
CPU: AMD FX 8350 4 CORES, 8 THREADS (Advertised as 8 cores but there's 4 true cores ) ( came with AMD FX 4300 Originally )
RAM : 8GB DDR3 1600MHZ
CPU Cooler: Hyper 212 Evo ( changed from Stock cooler to this )
Storage: 240gb SSD, 1TB HDD( Came with 1Tb HDD)
GPU : 750 TI, ( Came with GT 730 )
PSU: 550 Watt
The parts I'm currently getting to upgrade to are:
Motherboard: GIGABYTE B360M
CPU: Intel I5-8400
RAM: 16GB DDR4 2400MHZ
GPU: EVGA 1060 6GB SC( super clocked , single fan )
mossy fulcrum
Nice.
But one thing tickles me a little bit.
Should we consider waiting for the RTX2060? People who want to buy new tech still buys GTX 1000 series, yet the RTX series will roll in to the market in months.
warm crescent
Well its a 100$ price difference lol from 1060 to 2060
Besides 1060 6gb is all i need for games like pubg, R6S, GTFO, Doom Eternal
The 1060 will be enough to play games i enjoy at high settings or medium at 900p soon to be 1080p
coral pier
yeah, all them newfangled chips seem only worth for 4K tbh
I'm staying on 1080p, so I'm happy
warm crescent
I've never played at 1080p tbh.
coral pier
that's fine, I still love my 900p dell (it's my secondary monitor now). I only went up to 1080p for the refresh rate, and nothing below 24" diagonal offers high refresh rates sadly.
warm crescent
I'd love a 144hz monitor tbh, I've been playing FPS Shooters since I've been in middle school and somehow still manage to do pretty decent going against others that have a 144hz
Me and my brother have always been just naturally good at FPS Shooters.
coral pier
there's more to it than being able to play better, honestly. High refresh rate is... mesmerising. Incredible. A new way to see the desktop world.
everything feels so smooth, so light, so speedy, out of nowhere
it's fantastic
warm crescent
From what I've heard having a higher refresh rate than 60hz like 144hz just gives you a competitive edge because you can see people a bit before they can see you
coral pier
it does all sorts of nice things, it's just aesthetically cool, but it also naturally reduces motion blur, which makes players better defined, it also reduces overall input delay
since it's frame-based, and now you have more frames crammed in a second
icy ridge
waxen halo
mossy fulcrum
@warm crescent well, if you buy a 2060 on release, you don't havr to upgrade for at keast 6 years*.
*time durations may vary
terse zinc
signal nebula
Or buy an RX580 now, and you'll be fine for quite a while
warm crescent
I dont like amd too much tbh, I've always been an intel fan stuck with amd cause or money. And well now im getting out lol, @mossy fulcrum you're right yes, but for me rn financially it'll be better if i go with 1060. Its more than enough, if my amd fx 8350 paired with 750ti can handle seige at 75fps medium / low settings, pubg at 50fps or less at low settings and doom at 40fps at low settings , 1060 6gb and intel i5 8400 will be huge difference in performance
@coral pier yeah you're right about the motion blur. Nobody likes it. I've always wantes a 144hz to be able to compete at a higher level but they're expensive. All i want is 1080p 21" or 23" 144hz and ill be happy forever
signal nebula
There was a 27" 144hz 1080p on super discount a while ago, that's what I have but I don't remember where I got it
fleet bison
2060 has around equal performance to 1070/1080
mossy fulcrum
1070 I suppose
warm thorn
don't get an i5 8400 at all, it's a terrible cpu for gaming
fleet bison
The 6 core 6 thread one. Hm. Outperformed by most 4 core 8 thread.
But it's good enough for cheap, but then again, there's Ryzen 1 that could go for way cheaper.
And outperforms it, of course.
warm crescent
From benchmarks I've seen and results i5-8400 is a good decent all around.
I'm getting it either way cause I've already bought my intel motherboard, no sense in going back now
Im not looking for something crazy. I'm coming from an AMD FX 8350 lol, anything is better than this. Always wanted an Intel processor and now I'm getting one finally. AMD is more suited for multitasking streaming, video rendering etc where intel is for gaming because of its single core performance. I'm just looking to play games and watch movies and videos and that's all lol. I5-8400 from benchmarks and reviews I've seen and read gives me all of that so I'm happy.
somber root
GPU is much more important for gaming today than the CPU. I’d take the money you are saving with an i5 (vs i7) and invest it in a solid GPU (1050Ti or better with at least 4GB VRAM).
warm crescent
When you play at higher resolution ( 900p, 1080p, 1440p, ) games require more GPU Power, than CPU. Since i play all of my games at my native resolution which is 1440x900p a bit more gpu power is needed, and since im gonna switching to a proper 1920x1080p monitor sometime in the future. I'm getting the EVGA SC 1060 6GB, Single Fan.
I could've saved some more money and gone for an i3-8100, but eh, i5-8400 is medium range and perfect for me.
signal nebula
I'm on FX6350 and RX580, I think the CPU is bottlenecking the GPU a bit. I'll be building a new system using that video card soonish, finally have my OS on NVME
weary timber
NVME is the business. I have my OS on one and use a second SSD for games. I its like I don't even have a boot time lol.
signal nebula
Currently my OS is on SATA SSD and my games are on quad-HD RAID, it's good enough for me
warm crescent
My current OS is on SATA SSD, alonside some other games too. My 30GB+ Games are on my HDD which is 1TB
young basin
Yes that cpu is definitely bottlenecking that gpu
I run the same gpu but with a ryzen 5 2600 and the only times I'm actually cpu bound are in physics-intense sim games (e.g. beamng drive, I begin to lag after the 4th car spawned depending on the map) or in really crappily optimised games (e.g. payday 2)
signal nebula
I find PD2 runs pretty well on this setup, it's Subnautica that really struggles
terse zinc
i got a gtx1050 with an Intel pentium. my motherboard aint great either. looking into upgrades here soon
young basin
Subnautica is pretty bad too
Although I think it got better after leaving early access
signal nebula
It did. Maybe it could still be better
Or maybe my system is more bottlenecked than I thought
young basin
Whats your specs
signal nebula
AMD FX6350 (I think - not at home right now) 32GB DDR3, RX580 8GB
young basin
Yep that cpu will be bottlenecking you pretty bad
warm crescent
intel i5 8400 shouldnt be bottlenecking gtx 1060 too bad right
young basin
Nop
signal nebula
According to https://thebottlenecker.com/calculator if I have an FX-6200 then I'm significantly CPU-bound, but the FX-6350 would not be. I don't remember which I have
fleet bison
Ryzen 1 versus i5 8400 shouldn't have a big performance difference. Might also perform smoother. But that would depend on which Ryzen 1 I guess.
vestal steeple
Is going ryzen even worth it? With intel soo big, devs focus on favoring intel cpu optimization while amd get the short stick and some game just doesnt work until they patch it latter. And what of performance if I dont have money issue?
jovial stream
Well ryzen is good for people on a budget with decent performance. Not everyone has the cash to fork over for intel. Plus Ryzen if I'm not mistaken has better price to performance ratio if you're more into content creation due to higher cores and threads for lower price.
vestal steeple
Threadripper sure is great for content creator. But average gamer saving off 100$ to go AMD doesn't sound worth it personally, you also have to stick with a AMD mb. At least the competition for CPU is better than GPU... Damn Nvidia and their insane price. and AMD can't fight back in performance.
warm crescent
I've alwatys looked at it this way and it's what made me go intel.
Intel was made for gamers, they have better single core performance, If you're basically just gaming on your PC, or watching movies, doing some very light rendering ( Hammer ) but if you're mostly playing games Intel is the way to go. If you're more into wanting to start doing youtube or streaming AMD is the way go because they have a better multi core performance but not that great single core performance. All I do is Play games, watch youtube, every now and then render some maps so Intel for me personally is the way to go.
fleet bison
Normal Ryzen is better price for same performance CPU.
Unless you go top tier, there is no real difference.
AMD has cheaper midtier GPU's for the same performance as well. But not in all markets.
Noting that "better single core performance" hardly matters in midtier. If there even is a difference, it's very low.
But yes, if you get something like the 8700K, it might have 5-10% better performance.
But if you're on a budget build, paying 50 to 150 more dollars for a intel over a AMD CPU is a waste. Fully. It's much better to use that money on a better GPU.
white spire
^^
NVIDIA and Intel have the high end market on their hands while AMD dominates the console market , and the low and mid end market on PC
fleet bison
I do not favor either of these brands, but if one is better than another in a specific situation, at least effectively, then I will not deny that for brand favorism.
An example was the 580 that cost around 200 euro, but performs equal to a 1060, that in turn cost 350 euro then, 300 now.
obsidian flicker
i love my AMD CPU and it works well with my Radeon GPU
mossy fulcrum
i love my amd cpu and it works well with nvidia gpu
i love my gigabyte mobo its works well with my samsung ssd and crucial ram
mossy fulcrum
its a 4 months old system i'm currently doing fine
fleet bison
Well. It's kind of like Ivan Drago. "If it's fine. It's fine"
mossy fulcrum
all tho my brother was shocked by a broken lamp bulb
i mean the place you insert the light bulb
and it shocked him
and my motherboard USB ports died out for like 2 months
they didnt work, but they do now
so i dont know
fleet bison
Well, that could have been the PSU, not the mobo, or any connection in between. Front USB I presume. Maybe the connector got loose.
mossy fulcrum
my front USB were bad on day1
fleet bison
Have you checked the connector?
mossy fulcrum
hmm
fleet bison
On the case, that is. or so I presume. Depending on how your case is manufactured.
mossy fulcrum
there should be a problem with the controll pannel
the guy who build my pc didnt check it but i didnt bother with it
young basin
late to the party, but another advantage of using an (modern AM4 socket) amd motherboard is that it will be compatible with any new cpu up to 2020 (or 2021 i forget)
meaning you'll have a great upgrade path
signal nebula
They may even be able to enable PCIe 4 on AM4 motherboards
young basin
I'm a little more sceptical about that
mossy fulcrum
@young basin thats right. Am4 is up to 2020, and even the cheapest A320 could possibly run 2020 Ryzens and Athlons.
fleet bison
PCIe 3 hasn't really been capped yet, so there is no practical use for PCIe 4.
Also don't cheap on motherboards.
young basin
too late
fleet bison
young basin
maybe not for consumer use, but more bandwidth is always good in data servers and shit like that
although cpus need more PCI lanes in the first place
fleet bison
Oh, yeah, of course. There's always A use.
Eh, I sit pretty fine on my 46-ish PCIe lanes.
When I actually finish the build.
mossy fulcrum
Didn't say we should, but in practice it should work.
mossy fulcrum
I know this is a stupid question, since Beta access will be free, is there anything bonus for bets testers in the final game?
Like PD2 had a custom scope for BETA testers, alltho i was pre-order exclusive.
oak arch
No word on that yet
A dev would have to comment to give us any info
Although personally I find it difficult to think about what stuff we could get as beta testers since all content will be free and there's no cosmetics at launch
mossy fulcrum
Its not neccesary
I mean they still got a lot on their to-do list
One thing is full controller support
Because some bald guy on Steam was saying office equipment (kb&mouse) is bad for playing videogames.
coral pier
it would make more sense to have things like that in a larger team, where dedicated artists have little to do during the final bug fixing phase
but this being a small crew, probably not a priority
oak arch
@mossy fulcrum seriously? lmao
mossy fulcrum
Ye
coral pier
well couch equipment is bad for playing behind a desk, too
vestal steeple
Another one for the pc tech savvy
What the difference in performance for buying a cheap vs expensive motherboard if you dont intead to OC?
Both are almost identical with the same number of slots, but one cost 100$ the other 300$+
signal nebula
If they really do have the same number of slots, and the same kinds of slots, the differences will likely be in less obvious places - networking modules, RAM speeds, NVMe sockets
placid maple
Mobo prices go up with branding, features (I.e. integrated WiFi), expansion slots
Oh someone beat me to it lol
signal nebula
Some of it is just branding, but some of it is real quality differences
vestal steeple
Alright thanks
rain birch
Actually the difference in a cheap and expensive mobo is the parts and auto tuning involved
upper stirrup
100 dollars is a good spot though
rain birch
A cheap motherboard will not go as far as an expensive mobo in terms of auto clocking and doing what your cpu "could" potentially do vs a burnout mistake
upper stirrup
i mean for a cheap pc you don't need much stuff
rain birch
I've unfortunately found a few time overclock on a cheap $70 asrock isn't as good as the $150 prime
but only overclocking
Otherwise it will basically overclock for you without you needing too for most high price or higher price boards out of the box
same with ram / other components
upper stirrup
oh cool didn't know that
rain birch
But since i just ran into it DONT SKIMP ON YOUR PSU
upper stirrup
oof what happened
rain birch
i just replaced a $900 dollars in mobo / cpu / psu because a cheap corsair blew up a photographers workstation
all latest and greatest / K intel cpu stuffs
upper stirrup
oh no
rain birch
thankfully the 1070 and 32 gigs ram were good
upper stirrup
What would you say a cheap corsair is
upper stirrup
I have the 500W one for like 60
rain birch
80+ cert
upper stirrup
wElL sHiT
rain birch
It's a dice roll honestly
upper stirrup
Isn't anything with computers a dice roll?
rain birch
but generally the dice roll is just more towards the house when it's not an 80+ standard
upper stirrup
It is so yay?
upper stirrup
ok was worried for a second
I still need mobo + cpu
was gunna go ryzen cause i have like 300 bucks
rain birch
extra info on 80+ just FYI
More FYI, Ryzen is 100% better for workstations due to their clocking GHZ. Intel will win out with core limited applications / games since most now and still unfortunately don't use more than 2 cores at a time STILL
So Ryzen is the long and steady where Intel is the Sprint and Burst high end
I still personally use AMD, since i'm not worried about the 300 FPS i'll never be able to truly tell the difference from
upper stirrup
Honestly I just want a cheap and good thing with my limited cash money
young basin
then you really can't go very wrong with amd
rain birch
Go AMD, get a $20 or whatnot cooler master and overlcock on asrock board
you will pretty much be set
I had an 8350 stead at 4.1 ghz on $50 asrock lol
8320*
I did 4.4 but it would blue screen after a week uptime and didn't want to risk a kill shot
signal snow
hopefully they don't make it a grinding system
gleaming agate
What do you consider a grinding system?
Because I think nearly every games replayability comes from grinding, it's just a matter if the grind is interesting enough to keep going.
gleaming agate
Not every game
young panther
most games
gleaming agate
Just most games that can be replayed a lot
young panther
yeah
gleaming agate
Think of The Last Of Us
young panther
yeah okay, story driven games are not really grinding
gleaming agate
Or a primarily store driven game.
young panther
but the replayability isnt good either
most of the time you only play it once maybe twice
gleaming agate
I know some people that would strongly disagree with that statement, it's just a matter of opinion I suppose.
young panther
yeah true
austere kiln
I would argue a lot of Nintendo titles (Mainly Mario and Kirby) don’t have grinding in them since there’s nothing to really grind. If you get stuck, it’s because of your skill as a player and not because you didn’t stomp on enough mooks to make your attacks +1 or whatever. There’s extra levels and such, sure. But they’re not necessary for completing the main storyline.
upper stirrup
Look at BTOW, people have done a go straight to ganon thing and won, even when it’s kinda difficult with full gear
fleet bison
If you aren't skillful enough for Kirby then boy, have I news for you my friend.
austere kiln
Sounds like someone has never fought through the True Arena.
Kirby games are notorious for having ball-busting extra modes.
Most of them are boss rush modes in which you deal half as much damage and take twice as much.
With souped up bosses that have even more ridiculous movesets.
vestal steeple
There still some grindy nintendo game, Pokemon or the turn-by-turn mario game.
signal nebula
Most of the Pokemon games are actually easier if you use only one
Though I only pay attention to the glitched runs myself
topaz galleon
I'm jelly of the gtfo bot, its playing gtfo :>
rugged vessel
yeah, the feels lol
signal nebula
I wandered lonely as a Dauda, that creeps below Warden's gaze, when all at once burst out a crowd, a host of howling ARRRGHH
oak arch
"as a dauda"
ah yes, the ever illusive dauda, always seen grazing in the grass known for their keen hearing. Some say they travel to the south of the complex in the winter months for comfort.
signal nebula
I thought it was clever, but then again I hate Wordsworth
empty jetty
On the topic of actors putting on foreign accents. I think we can all agree that Michael Nyquist’s Russian in the first John Wick movie is embarrassing as heck. Maybe that’s mostly because I hear his Swedish underneath it all. RIP though, that actor was a good guy.
empty jetty
Hey!
obsidian flicker
Another day down, another day closer
young panther
Closer to what?
terse zinc
Release, what else?
young panther
Oh, yeah thats probably it
obsidian flicker
that's exactly it, lol. sorry as cvooking dinner
austere kiln
Yep.
upper stirrup
Hello gamers
gleaming agate
Someone ban Wikk for typing
vivid nova
I'm afraid I cannot do that
gleaming agate
Can't, or wont?
granite plover
Man I am worried my friends are just gonna keep doing the grind thing and I won’t have anyone to really dedicate to with GTFO
gleaming agate
Ok, say that again.... Except in english this time.
main thistle
@granite plover so if it's as good as I hope I'll be around for a good while. Im hoping I can put the hrs into this game that I have put into payday 2 and still enjoy it and still have fun
granite plover
I did use English, by grind thing I mainly mean warframe/overwatch
gleaming agate
You forget about Anthem dragon
gleaming agate
That's probably because Anthem is being made with EA
granite plover
Atleast for now
somber root
Being EA is one thing that concerns me about Anthem. What are they going to ruin with MTX?
coral pier
I'm not sure they'll risk those again
somber root
I guess, ultimately, it depends on what they learned from BFII
cosmic flume
EA doesn't learn
they'll stay low for a while and when people inevitably forget they'll be back to their usual bullshit
It's what they've always done
modern anchor
Yeah I'll stay away from Anthem as I do with everything else published by EA.
Anthem looks cool, but there's a lot of cool new games to play and movies to watch coming out all the time, so it's easy to pass.
upper stirrup
EA Sports: it’s not a game
oak arch
Preach simon amen
hybrid quail
EA's slogan: "it's in the game" doesn't really make sense anymore
somber root
Should be interesting to see how Bungie handles Season of the Drifter since they are now self publishing.
Though, I don’t think there will be much of a difference until Destiny 3 in 2020.
upper stirrup
well they’ve been together for so long, what was activisions and what’s bungies????
somber root
... that is, if D3 actually happens now. If they don’t just continue to build on D2.
Activision is mostly responsible for Eververse. Bungie didn’t initially want to do microtransactions as far as I know. Activision was pushing for more MTX that would actually affect game play (ie actual weapons and upgrades that would be available only for Silver). That short-lived period where you could buy year 1 exotic emotes with $10 worth of Silver... that was Activision.
granite plover
The only EA game I support is Titanfall
Because god knows respawn doesn’t deserve the treatment they get
cosmic flume
It's what happens when you're a company owned by EA
cosmic flume
If you're profitable and popular, they'll squeeze you until you dry up and can't keep up anymore, getting thrown under the rug
And if you're not profitable and popular, well, just skip the squeezing part
coral pier
I fear for Titanfall 3
I love Respawn, I want it to be good, but they're in the vice now
cosmic flume
Getting bought by EA is basically putting a timed bomb on you
coral pier
I like to think Zampella is smarter after dealing with Activision
I like to think he left a backdoor for him and his company
but I really don't know
and EA has a serious track record of killing devs off
cosmic flume
The funniest thing is that the reason the reason they aren't profitable and popular tends to be because of EA's pressure
Like they did with Visceral, making them put microtransactions in Dead Space 3 and having ridiculous sales expectations
coral pier
Twice in a row they got fucked by something outside of their control
Tianfall 1 - launch title for a loser console in the CoD timeframe with no singleplayer
Titanfall 2 - launched in the same time window but now with heavy resentment towards the franchise after Titanfall 1
cloud stream
Funny you guys mention Titanfall 2
I just played through the campaign last night for the first time
coral pier
This is the game where their efforts had actually gotten recognized, and I hope they get a chance to make a proper third game
cloud stream
Their 4 player defense mode is pretty fun too.
oak arch
Ridiculous sales expectations are the real killer no one talks about, that's partly why Activision dumped bungie lol. D2 didn't meet the skyhigh projected sales numbers.
coral pier
For me the entire series is amazing, I remember going into that Titanfall 1 beta
oak arch
Titanfall has always been solid but 2 was a huge improvement
coral pier
and it had everything against it, CoD devs, bad launch window, Source engine, Xbox One
And then I started playing.
oak arch
Source is not a bad engine
coral pier
And I bought it after 2 games. Pre-ordered. I don't pre-order.
I loved it so fucking hard that when Titanfall 2 beta was a disaster I STILL PRE-ORDERED IT TOO
cosmic flume
specially since they heavily modified it
cosmic flume
if nobody told me Titanfall is made on Source I wouldn't have realized it
coral pier
definitely
it's exceptionally well crafted, Zampella and his best pals have a fantastic grip on engine modding
I mean, look at Quake 3, then look at what they did with CoD
Titanfall 2 is literally unrecognizable as a Source game
Titanfall 1, maybe, at a stretch, in some places
I can pin down the shading looking similar to Half-Life 2
just similar, not the same
Titanfall 2 is completely its own
I sure hope they won't abandon the singleplayer again for the third game
speaking of, @cloud stream it seems to me you didn't finish your thought
you played the singleplayer for the first time aaaaaand?
cloud stream
Immersive. Feels. Fun. Challenging. Short , but oh well on that.
cloud stream
I was sad about bluetooth though
coral pier
...That I replayed over 11 times.
I think I got more playtime out of it than Just Cause 2.
cloud stream
*Bluetooth is what I nicknamed BT
coral pier
ikr
hybrid quail
i was on my 4th playthrough of the campaign before i went back to college
coral pier
I uhh
hybrid quail
its fuckin amazing
coral pier
I guess you didn't read through the credits, then?
not that I'm saying anything
other than "there's reason to play through it again"
coral pier
ah ok then
hybrid quail
i dont really know what the end credits thing was suggesting
coral pier
yeah I've not seen many people left impartial to its story
hybrid quail
~SPOILER WARNING~
cloud stream
Or just don't spoil
hybrid quail
the ending
coral pier
like even ones that look at the story from a logical perspective and see that's very token and generic
cloud stream
¯_(ツ)_/¯
coral pier
still admit that it's executed so well
hybrid quail
but i want to discuss this
coral pier
it's funny that we're worried about spoiling a 3 year old game
or 2 year old? Soon to be 3, right?
hybrid quail
ikr
cloud stream
Well, considering I just played it for the first time last night.
hybrid quail
and its predictable too
cloud stream
It's not suprising if others haven't played yet either.
coral pier
yeah you can see BT pulling a BT before the gunshot, too
it can be spotted a mile off
cloud stream
EIther way. I enjoyed it. I never played the first one, so it was a whole new experience for me.
I'm a sucker for good campaigns, and everyone was telling me to play this one.
😃
coral pier
a friend of mine recently asked me if it's worth getting it for $6 just for the campaign
I was like "DUDE IT'S WORTH $20 ALONE"
cloud stream
I like the 4 player defense as well. Albeit not many queue up for it.
coral pier
Frontier Defense is great, yeah
It was tougher in the first game
But it's fun in both!
cloud stream
I haven't unlocked the harder difficulty yet.
coral pier
Higher difficulties do some cool things to amp the difficulty, too, like remove the minimap
and make some enemies unmarked as well as hard to see
cloud stream
I think you have to be aegis 5 to unlock the next one.
austere kiln
I loved FTD now that the titans had specialized roles.
cloud stream
I'm still a newbie 😦
coral pier
yeah it plays well, but original FTD was just more relentless
more enemies, charging faster, doing more damage
austere kiln
Legion’s max Aegis ability was busted AF.
austere kiln
It gave him ALL of his Kit Mods at once.
cloud stream
I've been enjoying Tone
coral pier
quad traps, penetrating rails, mmmmm
austere kiln
Increased Mag, Lightweight Alloys, Reserve Compartment, and Sensor Array. Made you a walking wall of destruction.
coral pier
And then I steal your kill with a rail shot from across the map cuz Imma dick
austere kiln
Not to mention he could also kill confirm with both Power Shot variants.
Plus GURREN LAGANN BOOLET.
cloud stream
^
Well.
I wouldn't know about that last statement.
I haven't unlocked that one.
austere kiln
Monarch is cancer in any game she’s in.
coral pier
monarch is a mistake
monarch is the only post-release Titan added and it shows
its toolset is messy as hell and its powers are very annoying
austere kiln
“Y’all mind if I...”
“RECHARGE MY SHIELDS ENTIRELY?”
Not to mention she can slow and Burst you to hell and back.
coral pier
"oh look, a titan that can slow you down, recharges its own shields with slowing you down, can recharge its shields with one button press, and has a hitscan weapon that shreds pilots without any extra effort required"
...no
like that last bit is the worst offender for me
austere kiln
She’s a goddamn MOBA Titan.
coral pier
Titanfall 2 went to great effort to step away from hitscan titan weapons
most hitscans are either super limited, or difficult to use
I mean Legion is very tough to employ consistently against all types of enemies
but now we have monarch
austere kiln
It made sense for Legion at least and even then a skilled player can get around it.
coral pier
who just has... an assault rifle
woooow.
yeah Legion has insane limitations on his hitscan
the close-range mode saves ammo, but won't hit pilots
and it needs a spin up
and you're slow
and your ammo pool is used on both pilots and titans so you have to use it sparingly
but monarch is like eh
I'll just use my rockets, or my slow beam, or run away
AND ALSO TEAR INTO PILOTS WITH AN ASSAULT RIFLE
-_-
austere kiln
I use CR mode if a pilot is trying to rodeo me or to burst down someone in Doomed state.
coral pier
CR is a good mode for consistent damage, too, but you do need to be in range
it can easily outpace LR given good distance
austere kiln
Occasionally I’ll try to get a cheeky LR Shot across map.
coral pier
but, you give up accuracy against pilots and the opponent could get out of burst range
ON THE OTHER HAND
THERE IS NO BETTER FEELING
austere kiln
Rarely works but when it does it’s great because people are expecting Northstar.
austere kiln
It took me the longest time to realize that LR mode uses twice as much ammo as CR mode.
coral pier
oh, oh, hahaha, hang on
reminds me of some pics I found back on titanfall 2 reddit
dropped it in #media-and-memes
love that pic
neat dagger
daliy quests? 
vivid nova
🤔
golden sandal
Yeah same
torn dew
I woke up so I guess I have done my daily quest for today 
mellow brook
Sure that you don't overdo things?😂
upper stirrup
Looks like we've all levelled up today!
austere kiln
bright dock
I gain +1 HP, +1 ATK, and +1 DEF
fleet bison
Unless I'm hitting a level dividable by four, I won't attain two ability point.
upper stirrup
Self-improvement is important!
Good morning friends, hope life is treating you all well today
main thistle
Yep minus my heart acting up, but I’m still kicking