If you learn the ins and outs of ten maps in 50 hours to that point, I'm impressed 🙂
#amba-general
ember ember
ember ember
Especially in a brand new game with base mechanics you'd be unfamiliar with
inner osprey
And I doubt one mission will be more than 40 minutes.
Just because the map is big.
It doesn't mean it's scarier.
If it's like 10% different in terms of what doors are openable, what is accessible.
Then it'll be just enough.
ember ember
Still think that's wholly unnecessary and potentially detrimental in the long run, but most games aren't awful about it.
crisp grail
the key would be for a map to have more than one way to solve it, for example a generator is needed to open an area but if its destroyed then you must travel through vents. Its things like that which help make maps replayable
its also things like that which create team work/ co-op play
ember ember
Options with varying degrees of usability on a moment to moment basis sound fine, but if you just load into the map and that generator is just randomly destroyed at the get-go.... eh.
waxen halo
WHat like portal?
ember ember
Players can defend the generator or crawl through the vents if that doesn't seem like a plausible choice in that run-through for whatever reason? Sign me up.
crisp grail
then the option should be does the team stay to repair the generator or risk the vents. its all choise 😄
ember ember
Let the teams choose, not the game!
crisp grail
i like the idea the game has created so far of survive as a team or die alone
yes @ember ember the game gives the choice and the team chooses. take the easy possibly more dangerous or chose the harder possibly quicker more rewarding choice
slate forge
That would be interesting
crisp grail
i hope they go along the path of involve the team to chose as we all know even in co-op people have different ideas of how they want to do a level 😄
main hearth
Hey all, just joined. Though looking forward to what this game has to bring, it's looking like a good mix of L4D and dead space to a degree.
Hoping the atmosphere stays creepy and they force teams to split to complete objectives to make it intense.
next fossil
i been hype for this game since i heard it years back XD
inner osprey
Except the HUD isn't a slick and dope as Dead Space
next fossil
got my friends waiting on this game as well XD
inner osprey
Yeah well, I prefer Metroid Prime over the 2ds. Don't get me wrong. I love 2D Metroid, but I don't get as passionate as I do for the Metroid Prime series.
next fossil
2ds?
inner osprey
The 2D metroid?
inner osprey
😛
next fossil
i never owned a gamecube... so i only played classic metriod and wii metriod
inner osprey
But yeah, I kind of hope the HUD for GTFO to be something as immersive as Metroid Prime, or Dead Space, hell even Metro.
I feel like the HUD is a key component for immersion.
inner osprey
Ehhh.
next fossil
or even maybe .. some orchestral music could make it intense
inner osprey
The music for this game should be akin to a more of a somber tone that doesn't focus on loud beats of a guitar.
next fossil
i said similar XD
inner osprey
As the game itself is supposed to be intense and fearful.
inner osprey
Sadly I don't think they have enough Budget.
next fossil
well it's a small group
next fossil
yeah XD and 😦
inner osprey
I feel like the Emphasis on Piano and long drawn out methods of classic instruments will add to the fact it's supposed to scary.
Violins, Pianos, and bass.
Music adds tension. Especially if done right.
next fossil
yup
inner osprey
Sigh
next fossil
why sigh?
inner osprey
Because I don't want to watch any gameplay of GTFO but like.
I want to play.
I don't want to spoil it.
next fossil
XD is there any new ones?
inner osprey
No.
But.
Watching the latest one is tempting.
BTW did you know, that DayZ finally exited Early Access.
next fossil
yeah i saw that XD
did you also see they increase the price of that game once it came out of EA?
inner osprey
By $5?
inner osprey
lol
next fossil
i saw it like a weird number ... odd number actually like $37 or $43
oh it is also going on console soon as well XD
inner osprey
shrug
next fossil
you sound like my buddy i known online for years XD
those are his normal responses XD
inner osprey
Spooky
tough locust
hello fellow gamers
waxen halo
Yo
silent vale
we live in a society
tough locust
plz
thorny matrix
i wanted the game yesterday
ruby peak
👋
upper stirrup
Morning 😊 falls back to sleep
urban coral
Hey all
versed terrace
hey
coral bone
nocturne grotto
Do I smell closed beta for ambassadors? ^^
sinful cave
nope, it's just a dream
somber root
Pretty sure there's a beta in the future... but likely not close enough to smell it. Nice imagination, though... 😉
urban coral
👌
mellow tundra
is there any info on the (next wave) invites for an alpha of sorts.. I kinda lost track of everything.. signed up a long time ago
ah nvm I read a few lines up
guess I need to work on my reading skills
upper stirrup
long story short, closed beta is going to be a thing and after that is full game release
They are not doing any kind of pre-order thingy as simon said
gray phoenix
hello everyone
upper stirrup
Eyo
gray phoenix
i hope im gonna be in beta too
upper stirrup
Im clearing snow dont mind me
gray phoenix
cleaned the ice off the car this morning
upper stirrup
all of ambas get the code for it tho i believe
gray phoenix
so nice to have a new car with heat on everything 😄
1 push in 30 secs no more frost
i hope soo i wanna collect those eggs enemies drop 😛
mint plaza
Hello there!
upper stirrup
Aloha
idle raven
Hey buddies! New comer here 👋
mossy pewter
Would a Krenke admit they aer one though 🤔
inner osprey
Hmmmm
inner radish
That is a good point
mossy pewter
Obviously what needs to be done is a committee must convene to determine who is a spy Krenke
On a totally unrelated note, my store is now open and has an ample supply of torches, pitchforks, pyres, ropes and other assorted mob goods for sale
mellow tundra
I have a coupon
kind epoch
Le Gasp
upper stirrup
Hi everyone!
paper swan
hullo
upper stirrup
Do you think this game will have level variants like the new the walking dead or even more variants that change the map layout progression?
paper swan
no idea
rocky stone
Wouldn't be surprised to see at least a few random elements... maybe not map chunks per-say
It's meant to be difficult, and part of difficulty is having to adapt to new environments
paper swan
well, didnt they say in some video that its randomly put together from handmade chunks or something like that?
rocky stone
yea, that'd make sense.
paper swan
and that way it could probably have different areas, but it will all probably take place all underground, in the complex
upper stirrup
proceduraly generated but not random?
paper swan
ye
upper stirrup
the good thing is that it will make the suspense be there at every level
paper swan
yea, sometimes when one tries to cultivate a super scary atmosphere, its hard to do that without curating some parts
or most parts
or all parts
upper stirrup
absolutely and if they do for some levels then the "story maps" will have a quality the "almost random" don't have
paper swan
i havent heard anything about story maps. that sounds cool
paper swan
yea that sounds real interesting
upper stirrup
I mean they are building deep character from what they said in the interviews and stuff so I think that maybe the story mode will be a thing
Or maybe you will pick lore items like in Deceit
neon forge
deceit was almost good
paper swan
i mean, they could also do a mix or storytelling, the basic stuff in the story and then if you want more you could go digging for things or places that tell deeper stories
neon forge
im thinking story missions will have reqs
upper stirrup
Deceit needed variation so the "meta" couldn't stablish itself
neon forge
well it needed chaos
but what happened
is everyone figured out how the game worked
and queued with friends so they couldnt lose
so it was just boosting for outfits
im thinking GTFO will have a few starter story missions to get you used to the mission structure
before lalowing you to search on your own
find materials for X tool to proceed in next story mission
paper swan
yea ok
upper stirrup
thats cool
paper swan
same. i usually dont get excited for games, and i havent been for a long while, but GTFO has got my hopes up
upper stirrup
oh yea me too
To get me hyped to the point of thinking about pre order is really rare
paper swan
well, at least 10cc is being customer friendly about it. no pre-orders and no crappy demo-betas
upper stirrup
I know they are taking their time and stuff but I hope they don't get to ancious about the launch and choose a better lauch window to drop the game
upper stirrup
Because besides the game looking awesome and the at lauch our expectations be met the market will be pushing and promoting other things so I hope they keep an eye for that
rocky stone
I literally haven't been excited for a new game release in about 5-8 years. Genuinely thought I was done with gaming, but I'm fairly stoked for this.
paper swan
the closed beta, right?
neon forge
ye
paper swan
yup. stoked for that
oak arch
I highly doubt a beta in January sadly
I think mid Febuary is the earlest we'll see one
but hey I hope I'm wrong lmao
paper swan
yea
upper stirrup
If it comes around the end of the first semester there are some big grind rpgs and spooky themed games like Days Gone, Division 2, Rage 2, Dauntless, from what I'm seeing is not the worst window but until the time comes there are a lot of games that didn't confirm they launch date so they need to keep looking.
If the advertising is done right that will not be a problem because the atmosphere of this games is insane from what we saw
paper swan
fair points.
neon forge
im wondering
since we're ostensibly prisoners
if theres a prestiege system that will allow us to break out
paper swan
and do what? be a freelance salvager?
neon forge
just prestiege
giving your other chars benefits
etc
resources from the outside
or maybe taking over the warden and the above complex
paper swan
hm
somber root
At this point in the year, I’d be all for 10cc taking a break for a couple of weeks to spend the holidays with family and come back to work in January refreshed and ready to rock and roll!
A couple of devs I follow have already shut down their Twitter accounts until January.
somber root
Ahh... makes sense
paper swan
thats nice
oak arch
I think it had something to do with commiting arson or something
neon forge
wut
gleaming agate
Swedish, or yeetish holiday?
gleaming agate
Wut?
earnest orbit
Swedish holiday in October? What?
oak arch
or november
paper swan
honeyGTFO's comment about it being an arson holiday
paper swan
whats this have to do with arson? im so confused.
oak arch
There's a holiday in Sweden where they erect a goat for a holiday, and every year there's been one brave soul who risk an arson charge who burns it down
oak arch
As an american I fucking love it
paper swan
huh
earnest orbit
I was really confused for a second
oak arch
It's so hilarious lmao
paper swan
neat
earnest orbit
It's not really an official holiday. It's just become a thing to burn it down
oak arch
Just the fact that swedish people have all banded together and find a way to burn down that damn goat every year
Is perfect
oak arch
PogU
upper stirrup
Hey hey hey
oak arch
@gleaming agate Well I created a community for a kronos 2 after the first one, led by a person named nala who was incredibly power hungry ruined her server and banned people in droves. I added mods who were likeminded and we steered our discord community into greatness with over 1000 active users until the official Kronos 2 team took note and merged with us where we thrived even more until I left that community due to official classic wow being announced.
I was also apart of a subreddit called WoWLegacy which never took off, why it stayed stagnant at zero users was because I disagreed with the head mod who had a complete opposite moderater philsophy than me and fired me when he got tired of me not agreeing with him. His subreddit last I checked has 1-2 upvotes each posts and less than 150 subscribers. It's dead.
I was also apart of the old GTFO discord which despite no advertising still managed to create and cultivate a brilliant community that had fun and managed to stay active within itself since we all loved each other.
Those are my 3 big experiences
@gleaming agate that's not true either lmao
gleaming agate
No ur not
oak arch
Not really, it had an extremely active community for it's size
gleaming agate
Only 12 people talked there
somber root
You also had an hour on the phone with Simon during the time with the old GTFO server... on MY phone.... lol
upper stirrup
gleaming agate
Border, aory, wolf, honey, evo, draza, fred and sometimes other randoms
minor dagger
No anime!
minor dagger
IT IS
upper stirrup
No
minor dagger
Anime
analog wyvern
yea, was about to say....
gleaming agate
Thot
upper stirrup
😔
oak arch
@somber root I owe you like 15 beers if we ever meet for that one
somber root
I’ll be back at E3 2019. Just saying... lol
I’m actually surprised Simon talked that long. You owe him something, too... lol
minor dagger
Oranges
oak arch
@somber root I might see you there lol
if Simon goes I can buy you both many beers as a thank you for basically giving me a foothold in the GTFO content creation circle...lol
somber root
Yeah, I’m gonna have a lot of free time since Sony’s gonna be a no show.
minor dagger
Buy oranges for Simon
oak arch
Because that interview seriously legitimized my channel
minor dagger
I'm sure he needs to be sober for work
oak arch
Can't thank y'all enough, and it gave me a ton of nice info to get excited about
upper stirrup
I know what u can do
minor dagger
No anime
somber root
I might be busy with Epic, though... the company I’m going with is big into Fortnite
upper stirrup
Fortnite 😒
gleaming agate
Has the fortnite hype died yet?
somber root
Yeah, I know.. I don’t even play Fortnite... lol
upper stirrup
Get me some Vbucks for free and im happy 😄 I need that new dance right
gleaming agate
Stop it, get some help.
neon forge
gtfo christmas skins
gleaming agate
I wish I could type more but this phones keyboard makes me want to hurt something
upper stirrup
Mood
somber root
Yeah. Had to break out the iPad at lunch here because I have a bt keyboard case attached to it.
Makes typing sooo much better. Lol
cloud stream
Ohayo~
dry osprey
When it comes out anyone looking to group dm me I am willing to play with who ever wants to
paper swan
Is it just me or GTFO's slogan of 'live together, die together' reminds me of lost. 'Live together, die alone'
Context: Lost the tv show
upper stirrup
😮
somber root
Tought it was “Work Together or Die Together”? 🤷♂️
earnest orbit
Yeah
oak arch
It is lol
analog wyvern
wait so, are people able to play the game already?
fleet bison
Live, Work, Die, Together, Repeat
oak arch
@analog wyvern no
vivid nova
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vast moth
Sure are a loooottttaaaa ambassadors lol
gilded quail
I was surprised as well
nocturne gust
Well it was anyone who signed up to the news letter
I dont think we are anything special 😛
oak arch
We are actually the large majority of this server lol
fervent nimbus
I'm guessing it's due to the server mostly having been promoted to ambassadors so far (unless I've missed something)
oak arch
Ofc
acoustic glacier
Correct Tali, you are the chosen “few” 😃 at least for now 😉
wicked plume
i love being special 🙂
worn heron
So I just watched some of the gameplay from E3 again... and I am so friggin excited to give this game a shot!
oak arch
We all are brother
ember ember
The more I think about it, the more I realize it isn't really the sort of game I typically would be interested in keeping up with. Deal is, I said that about the developer's previous titles, and they wound up being a huge hit for me. Excited to find out if that'll be the case yet again!
waxen halo
Hopefully the gore in this game will be as satisfying as KF2
ember ember
Now that's a title I wouldn't mind seeing as an inspiration, especially in visuals. I love KF2's arsenal.
ember ember
I'm more of an Effects Low/Off guy myself, but from the footage I've seen online, yeah that's pretty impressive goo!
waxen halo
Yea it shows how weak they are to bullets but them exploding into potato/egg looking things it looks cool
i would like if they had bones n stuff coem from the corpses instead of the egg/potato things
worn heron
I am a huge Destiny fan and the raids are some of the best parts of the game. GTFO looks to match that co-op and puzzle integration, as well as having a massive horror element. That's what is really making me excited about the possibilities of this game.
acoustic glacier
We are as well, Aries! Can’t wait to show you guys what we are cookin’
brisk folio
does it smell like what the rock is cooking?
frail mountain
!
wicked arch
someones been playing mist survival lol
somber root
@worn heron, the comparison to Destiny's Raids (particularly the crossing the abyss portion of Crota's End} was my immediate reaction to my 20 minutes with GTFO this past E3. The early enemies seem to behave about like Destiny's Thrall.
waxen halo
Aren't destinys raids very dificult with the sheer number of enemys and complicated and overly specific in the actions required
somber root
Crota's End (2nd raid in Destiny 1) was actually a very straight-forward raid with only a couple of parts to puzzle through. But yeah, the difficulty in Destiny's Raids is generally the sheer number of enemies to try to deal with while also making sense of frequent puzzles.
fleet bison
I do think in general, comparison between the game's seems weird, but I will admit, I have played neither, so I can't know.
somber root
Destiny's Raids are also designed specifically with a 6-member Fireteam in mind.
fleet bison
GTFO seems to be hitting some kind of sweetspot between a lot of stuff, which is very interesting.
versed terrace
GTFO is a hardcore game after all
somber root
By the end of Destiny 1, though, most players were able to solo Crota's End.
There are some puzzles in other Raids that actually do require 6 players to solve.
In Destiny 2, it is possible for a 3-member team to defeat the Leviathan Raid, but so far, noone has been able to complete Last Wish with fewer than 6 players. The latest Raid is a recommended power level of 640 with the max power level currently at 650.
I still think, from my limited experience (no Diablo III or FFXIV), I think running Destiny's Raids would be a fine way of building teamwork toward GTFO.
fleet bison
Likely most, more than basic, 3-5 person game's can help with increasing teamwork capabilities.
Which would actually not include Diablo 3.
somber root
I thought Diablo III had 3-4 player dungeon-type activities? Obviously not... ?
fleet bison
It is. But is not more than basic.
You kill stuff until they die. Repeat ad infinitum.
There is no deep strategy to it. Either the enemies die, or they don't.
waxen halo
It would be rly cool if its something like those raids with high dificulty later on in the game
somber root
Ah. Yeah, not really that much of a teamwork building activity
fleet bison
Exactly.
somber root
Yeah, I'm thinking GTFO is going to be more like a high-level Hive or Taken Raid. Probably in the "Last Wish" sense.
waxen halo
I hope we can get alot of playtime before it become repetitive
somber root
Haven't played Last Wish, yet, but Ive seen some clips of people playing it. Very much a teamwork-oriented Raid. Same with Scourge of the Past (which I am nowhere near ready to attempt).
fleet bison
It's likely somewhere around a quasi-stealth 4-player co-op game, with several states of enemy alertness, and the game playing around with a majority of the differences between alerted states
Which is absolutely something I will enjoy.
One could say stealth-action game, but the term feels self-defeating.
coral pier
slow movement, dark hallways, danger lurks but doesn't show it, when it does combat is fast and violent and every step counts
low ammo, high threat
action-horror, I think they called DS?
fleet bison
Feels like comparing a movie to a game.
coral pier
you... don't think Dead space is a game?
fleet bison
Though highly interactive.
I don't like games based around lackluster gameplay and setpieces.
coral pier
ok, Dead Space isn't it, so why do you think you're comparing a movie to a game?
fleet bison
But, it's only lackluster if you aren't immersed
coral pier
no, it's not lackluster in general because there is a variety of unique weapons which use different mechanics and quirks in affecting the opponents, who themselves present a variety of mobility and attack patterns that heighten the challenge even in smaller numbers
combined with a present, but restrictive ability to slow down the enemies, which is also used in presenting certain enemy types who normally move too fast to consistently dispatch
and then with low-gravity sections which take all these mechanics to a fully 360 space
it does a lot of very specifically mechanical things that are very specifically unique and behave differently from one another
while connecting in a flow that presents itself effortlessly and doesn't feel like you're shifting gears every 10 seconds
like you can't call Dead space a movie but consider Destiny a game
that's hilarious
fleet bison
I do not fond of the game. And I don't know if the experience would be comparable. I do not like linearity in such a way.
fleet bison
Though I can enjoy it.
coral pier
ye what
neat dagger
somone that played the game 3 times trying all the classes, destiny is like a weaker clone of world of warcraft, if i would hit a check list, it sorta feels like destiny 2 was designed by somone that really loves world of warcraft,
coral pier
hell Destiny is a linear game, it just scatters the linear sections around a shitty meadow
coral pier
well, I think I know what you mean, you prefer something more in the style of PAYDAY or, to look further back, immersive sim genre
where the world is coherent and constantly navigable
any way you want
and you simply accomplish objectives within the world
fleet bison
What would you mean by immersive sim?
coral pier
whereas Dead Space presents a narrative and has actual stage transitions
what, you don't know what immersive sims are?
fleet bison
I don't know what the definition implies.
coral pier
the FPS "non-shooters" the likes of Thief, Deus Ex, System Shock, the new Prey, Dishonored
first person adventure games that focus on high environment interactivity
fleet bison
Is that called Immersive Sims? Where did that originate.
neat dagger
coral pier
which present huge blocks of playable space with a goal of accomplishing an objective, bypassing a wide variety of obstacles with a wide variety of tools
fleet bison
But yes, such FPS's, yes. I do very much like them.
coral pier
which interact dynamically in a mechanical sense, not as cutscenes or restricted set pieces
yeah, that's more like PAYDAY 2 then
I mean PAYDAY 2 isn't an immersive sim
but it has similar elements in it
fleet bison
I wouldn't say as much as so, but I do understand what you mean.
neat dagger
i would see all the games you mentioned as a game that has a good balance of story and meaty gameplay,. 
coral pier
I don't think GTFO will seek to accomplish as much in terms of non-linear level design
but I think it will still work in terms of interaction with the play area
games like Half-Life manage to tug at immersive fan's strings despite not really being such
simply because they're crafted to finely that you can never tell the difference
coral pier
so I don't think it'll be a mark against GTFO, if they do the level design well
yeah I love Half-Life it's a franchise that strips down some complexity of an immersive sim without taking away the sense of a living world and organic, natural progression
fleet bison
Very linear, but feels open, in a way.
coral pier
it's "stealthy" in its linearity
I think GTFO can hit that
you should also chekck out Titanfall 2's singleplayer then, cause it very much hits those marks too
fleet bison
I wouldn't call it immersive sim, though. Feels like a "MOBA"-like term, in a redundant way.
coral pier
wouldn't call what?
somber root
Except that being underground in some sort of research facility is pretty much the definition of linear. Yeah, there are some side tunnels and corridors you'll need to traverse to complete certain objectives (find a switch or key to unlock a larger door to proceed to the next area, for example), but largely, it will be linear.
fleet bison
Such games that you so call that.
coral pier
nah they have nothing to do with MOBA's, they're not even based around arenas
coral pier
immersive sim is just a monicker that got naturally attached to it
you'll see it brought up in many place where people talk of these games
coral pier
the idea is that it's a simulation of an immersive environment
hence, immersive sim
but it has nothing to do with actual simulation, of course
neat dagger
i mean moba had a pretty understandable term. but now alot of games are getting moba mechanics, and well thats another can of worms. to say the least,
coral pier
or immersion
coral pier
it's just the end outcome of the mechanics created in those games that leads to a feeling of simulated universe
fleet bison
So all online multiplayer games
coral pier
well the MOBA games are still based around a competitive engagement
so, not really anything to do with this style of game
coral pier
ok, so you mean the term itself just seems off
fleet bison
It is off.
fleet bison
I don't find it less ridiculous.
coral pier
it suits a certain general image that the games create
honestly so many early-age FPS games had immersive sim bits to them
that was just the natural way for the genre to expand
recently replayed Blood, oh my God what a game
remaster's coming soon and I can't wait
and it has so many similarities to the little sub-genre I have an affection for already
yet it's so much earlier than them
amazing
it was just how those 2.5D era developers explored the concept of an FPS
and it eventually led to environments so complex as to earn a treatment of their own
neat dagger
il give blood a look once the winter sale hits
coral pier
definitely do, use BloodGDX to make it actually run well
and have mouse aim
or wait for the remaster, tbh :D
I hope Monolith get to make their own immersive sim game some day
Blood and FEAR and Condemned are already amazing enough
I just want them to expand that line of development to whole areas
neat dagger
fear is a good game example of a game series going from well to shite, 
coral pier
even Shadow of Mordor/ of War has those vibes to it
fleet bison
I'm certain I'll never hear the term used in another context. At least that is a small victory.
But yes, remakes. With today's remakes, you'll never know.
They can be extremely good, or just straight rips, but worse.
coral pier
nah the Strife remake guys are remaking this one
it'll be good
they had to wrestle the rights to make it from WB, because WB owns Monolith right now
therefore all their trademarks
but somehow the mad bastards did it
excited
should get Strife, too, it's my style of game as well
the interaction part is definitely what excited me most about GTFO
it's a new way to treat the player space and environment you're contained in
changes the dynamics of how you approach very similar end goals and obstacles
that's what gets me excited for it
the feel of what I've seen so far seems kinda similar to a virus infection in a living organism
you're an alien species contained in this other ecosystem
that can't see you, but wishes to expunge you
and any mistake sends hordes of anti-bodies at you
and you have to straddle your way through the intestines, worrying as little of the local life as possible
it's cool and I can see where the horror comes from
quartz tapir
GO GO
pallid crescent
uwu wuts this?
fervent nimbus
Ooh, welcome to the ambassador rank, Ashley 😄
fervent nimbus
cracks whip
slow lotus
What exactly is ambassador rank?
fleet bison
You linked your ambassador thing with your account.
pallid crescent
upper stirrup
It gives you access to the ambassador channels, so we can do ambassador exclusive announcements and other stuff, in the future.
willow cargo
Ambassador exclusive announcements when tho
neat dagger
who knows 
i would pretty excited for like behind the scene stuff, 
it sorta provides a good picture of how things are and getting made.
upper stirrup
I think you will be pleased pretty soon then... 😃 HINT
neat dagger
as someone that has followed the behind the scene stuff, i dont know if they still use the stuff, but its pretty creative ways of doing things on a budget,
upper stirrup
We uploaded some videos from our motion capturing, that can be interesting for some: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCD7WUe84y5FWCfVG_HeUYMg/videos
somber root
A "Name of the Game" type documentary inbound? 🙏
upper stirrup
we don't really have that time or budget right now, but I hope you will appreciate some of the videos we will release soon 😃
neat dagger
heck any tidbit is better then nothing 👍
paper swan
New videos in the works? Awesome
somber root
Any kind of video is good video!
upper stirrup
I've said too much already 😂 But yeah, we hope to bring you some kind of x-mas gift, if we make it in time. 🙏
neat dagger
i mean nah. the videos was already on youtube,
but yeah you should not say anything more
upper stirrup
lol
somber root
I mean "we're working on some videos" is kinda vague... lol
slim lark
You can always make a demo.
upper stirrup
somber root
Nah... I'd rather the team concentrate on finishing the full game. I'm okay with waiting to play the game (again) a little longer...
boreal nimbus
neat dagger
that looks like a behind the scenes video if i ever saw it
slim lark
posted what?
upper stirrup
💯
neat dagger
excatly, we dident see anything 
slim lark
i don't pay for the game, i pay for the food.
somber root
Yeah, I didn't see anything get posted!
somber root
Yes, you engage your community well, and you get positive results! 😉
neat dagger
yeah 😄
gilded basin
Ah there we go, I had forgotten to register properly
somber root
Welcome, Malakai!
Yeah.. took me a bit to find the instructions how to properly register here, too
neat dagger
welcome 
upper stirrup
Register for Discord or as Ambassador?
somber root
To self-assign the Ambassador role... lol
Saw the bot... but me and discord bots don't generally get along.
Never know if the commands start with a ! or a % or a $ or a &... lol
upper stirrup
lol, I see. I tried to get the guide in the Ambassador email pretty straight forward
somber root
or like... just an email addy
upper stirrup
yeah, you only need to put the e-mail. The bot is smart enough 😃
somber root
So I found out. Actually got linked to the discord before I got the email, so... 🕺
upper stirrup
Ah, I understand
somber root
Partly my fault, since I don't have a chance to check my email all the time...
upper stirrup
the main thing is you're here now! 😃
somber root
Yep! That's true!
white spire
Well thats the advantage of making a bot for a single discord and the advantage of making it to only read PMs 
gilded basin
Oh I mean, it was pretty straight forward but when I first received the mail to join the Discord I kinda understood that I was already an ambassador and stuff
So that confused me a bit
But yeah, it's easy enough anyway
upper stirrup
I'm actually surprised I got to see the email, because I rarely check my account and when I do it's just a quick glance in the primary tab.
somber root
One of the reasons I don't check my email everyday... is because I fear the number of spam messages that await me to sort through... just makes it tough finding important messages... lol
upper stirrup
While we’re talking about that. I have the ability to send out our Ambassador newsletters one more time, to everyone that didn’t open it (everyone that did open it wouldn’t receive this second mail). Would you like that we do that? Of course we don’t want to spam people, but at the same time we don’t want any ambassador to miss out on exclusive news.
vivid nova
Go ahead
somber root
I would send it out and mark it as "important"
upper stirrup
Mean in the subject? Unsure you can set priority high on mass email, but I’ll check it out.
Good to hear your views on it
somber root
Yeah... I guess an important marking would be on the recipient's end to set a particular sender as an important contact or something. Was thinking of my company's internal email...
upper stirrup
Yeah
oak rune
The sender can mark a message as important in normal email, but these messages are sent en mass with a mailing provider who may not give that option such as due to abuse.
upper stirrup
That’s what I thought
somber root
True. Not really any way to make sure that all ambassadors are actually notified that "Hey, you're gonna wanna check this tidbit out, like RIGHT NOW!" lol
Since it is a mass email, it probably ends up in some people's junk mail.
upper stirrup
Yes. I will resend this. Thanks for your views people
somber root
I mean... there are already 711 of us here, so the message is getting out... 😉
upper stirrup
🤙🏼
white spire
Ye i was also quite surprised when i recieved the mail , tho tbh i check the three mails i have ( two personal and one for university ) several times a day so the chance of me missing something is low
tight sandal
thought i was in general sorry cleaning up
tight sandal
its 3 am here lol
white spire
I gotta stay awake until 5 AM CET ( so 6 more hours ) to witness the launch of the ELECTRON Rocket , ELaNa-19 mission
surreal forum
Heyy!
tight sandal
yeah,!
white spire
tight sandal
i have been loooking forwqard to this day forever
I even was one time "sent voice lines" cuz I was soo excited i didn't want money just to help out
cuz this game is sick "from what i see"
coral pier
I'm just glad there's a place I can solidly expect some news on, now
apparently there was an unofficial discord but... I'm not really so into discord as to find those
tight sandal
me too, tbh how can you board the hype train if you don't know where the station is
somber root
You know where the hype train launches from: The moment you wish list the game on Steam!
drifting goblet
yeah agreed
somber root
From pretty much any perspective, this is one huge hype train! Nearly 2,000 members in the server in 3 days...
neat dagger
the hype is real
white spire
ngl my biggest hype RN is Ashes of Creation , im a sucker for MMOs and i truly believe it to be the savior of the current MMO crisis , but thats mainly cause its going Open Alpha 1 in 3 days , but i am also truly awaiting GTFO , loved the concept the second i saw the first trailer when it was revealed, to the point i instantly searched for their web and applied for the newspaper
hahahah
steel slate
I've been waiting for more than 1 year now ^^
somber root
Got to play in June, so I'm good until the spring!
white spire
Did you? Luckyyyyyyy
vivid nova
Ah, you've been at gamescom?
somber root
E3 2018
somber root
Only got about 20 minutes.. but it was awesome. Pretty sure it was me that got us wiped...
vivid nova
haha
somber root
Trying to remember who were my squadmates... Simon, I'm sure, but can't remember who was sitting behind me.
white spire
I hope to go to E3 2019
somber root
Hope I see you there!
white spire
By then i will be done with uni and i will have some cash to throw at traveling and enternainment
somber root
99% sure I'll be there
white spire
For me it all depends on how much i will have to throw at the roundtrip plane tickets
spice lily
Gamescom is such a love/hate
vivid nova
E3 is so far away :(
spice lily
Went Aug 2016. Oh my GOD smelliest convention I've ever been to.
vivid nova
I'm probs just gonna watch the stream again
white spire
I have heard the same for quite some ppl lol
spice lily
Pax East is like walking through a fresh meadow compared to Gamescom, lol.
somber root
E3 is no picnic, either. Especially during 'Gamer' hours
regal patio
Always bring a gas mask
white spire
I wonder if i will be able to comfortably cosplay lol
somber root
Basically, rule one for E3, pack the deodorant. In your pocket if you have to, and remember to use it frequently!
Wasn't so bad when backpacks were allowed. Last year, only small, personal bags (ie purse size) were allowed in the front door.
lean basin
do you even know what i can fit into a fanny pack?
somber root
Yep. Too bad people didn't understand that.
lean basin
i can pack a fukn semi-automatic squirt gun in there bro
spice lily
Fanny Pack of Holding
lean basin
a super soaker
pure sentinel
a GTFO closed alpha would be nice 0,o
pure sentinel
and that.. would be uh!mazing o,0
glass prawn
If this game releases before the end of march I get it before my birthday
pure sentinel
At almost 32 years of age, gaming since I was 6 - I've tempered my nerves, Beer friend
coral pier
man taking part in Dirty Bomb's closed alphas and betas was amazing, I never thought a game could change so many times so quickly
pure sentinel
that's a decent little game, but last I played it, something just didn't quite click with me
coral pier
that's fine it's dead now
rip, imo, but they brought it on themselves
funny, game had worse changes done to it close to launch than during the entire broken-ass alpha when half the features didn't work
glass prawn
their first mistake was going with nexon
pure sentinel
something along those lines, yeah, @coral pier 0,o
pure sentinel
I remember playing 5v5 on the train yard map (whatever the hell its name), still in its early design stage and had a blast
coral pier
ran like shit, of course, I don't think Splash Damage ever knew how to make a game run well
somber root
I'm also in thatgamecompany's latest beta, and that game changes almost daily!
pure sentinel
one shouldn't play with the fps feel. I do worry about the upcoming doom
coral pier
for me the killer was removal of card trade-ups
from that point on I just lost interest
pure sentinel
there's something about the animations
coral pier
dunno, looked good to me
pure sentinel
ah, true. DB had cards
coral pier
yeah it still does, just very badly designed now
pure sentinel
year of the cards, what a horrible time it was
coral pier
and boring
original system could've been expanded to do better but oh well
they dropped trade-ups for crafting, instead, and crafting was so meaningless and grindy that I lost any sense of progress
can't stick around a game without progress of some sort
pure sentinel
speaking of which, Monster Hunter seems to be getting all this (seemingly) exciting content in 2019, yet I wonder - should I buy it?
seems, seemingly.. its late, I don't English
vivid nova
If you enjoy a really grindy game and don't mind fighting the same monsters over and over again
Then you should definitely get it
pure sentinel
Last thing I enj0y3D in that fashion, was Dark Souls. Hence my hesitation.
vivid nova
I love Dark Souls but don't really like MHW
white spire
I like MHW but i have played nearly all MHs so like , im biased
upper stirrup
I've only played 3 Ultimate, 4 Ultimate and Generations but I dig them
pure sentinel
Genuinely hope GTFO does well. But, we'll see
vivid nova
It's still quite the long way til launch :)
pure sentinel
It's odd, but I feel that with age, the less time I've left, the greater my patience for game releases.
(original quote not mine)
Metro is releasing in Feb of 2019, so that does tickle my excitement buds
but other than that - we wait
somber root
Yep, I used to get so impatient with devs when they delayed a game... the last few years (looking at you, Destiny), I've decided that delays are actually our friends (looking at you, Fallout 76).
nocturne geyser
To quote Shigeru Moyamoto "A delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad."
pure sentinel
True.
spice lily
TBH, I don't think any amount of delay could fix Fallout 76.
coral pier
meh, I care more for general attitude than delays in particular
spice lily
It's so tragic, really.
coral pier
I don't think a delay would fix '76
I think it's just a poor idea conceived out of malicious intent
spice lily
I don't know if it was malicious intent (maybe it was, I just don't have any opinion) but boy was their mindset severely flawed.
Just stick to what you're fuckin' good at, Bethesda. It's not hard.
vivid nova
FO76 is just broken on pretty much every level
coral pier
online-only games with emphasis on co-operative play come out because such an environment allows the development of peer pressure.
this does not concern GTFO since GTFO is session-based and experience-focused
but games like Destiny, '76, even recent Call of Duty titles
are specifically built around you dragging as many people in with you as possible
and entering a showoff contest
that drags you into spending money on the cosmetics store
spice lily
Hey now, the new call of duty is actually kind of amazing.
coral pier
I'm not saying it's effective! But it is for Overwatch.
I... found Black Ops 4 endearingly broken.
I can't say it's amazing, but it's fun to play
either way my point is Fallout '76 clearly wasn't built with the idea of just giving Fallout multiplayer
neat dagger
heck destiny 2 espiecelly just became a number chaseing contest and or gear chaseing contest. and call of duty has always bein a level race, and oh i hit a 360 dank no-scope,. i do still enjoy call of duty from time to time. but mostly i enjoy call of duty zombies more, due to if you are ready to put in the time, its a bit of a intresting lore,
coral pier
it was built with the idea of driving peer pressure up, very obviously so
you can see it in its marketing
spice lily
Yeah, neither game is my thing, but we already know what Destiny and COD do.
Like they aren't surprising compared to what came out with 76;
coral pier
I don't know
call of duty is always kind of interesting to me
it does a lot of samey things, but every once in a while they nail something so right
that it's actually cool to look at
I try to distance myself from a publisher's monetization strategy and just look at core design
spice lily
I just want a time machine back to 2006 to binge halo 3
coral pier
I think Black Ops 4 was developed with actual heart to it
neat dagger
i mean black ops 3, was more stable, and had more features then bo4 atm.
coral pier
and played like dogshit.
winged oyster
ow the og halo -halo combat evloved was where it was at.
coral pier
was it more stable?
spice lily
excuuuse me
spice lily
are you gonna sit here in front of me and diss the h2 pistol like that
neat dagger
yup, i bought bo3 on pc at launch, and it wasent near as bad as bo4 on launch, but yeah bo3 had issues, but it was more playable for sure, and they dident hype it up as oh we are defiently gonna support the pc platform more 
coral pier
I usually stick to doing free weekends with cod games, not expecting a good times
most case it isn't!
advanced warfare was!
Blops 4 is the first one I actually bought
not dissapointed
neat dagger
i mean you dident play the great times of mw2 and cod 4? those where like the highlights of cod,
neat dagger
chaotic but fun. 
cosmic flume
I stopped at BO2
coral pier
where do I go who do I shoot why is everyone everywhere layouts are broken and guns make no sense
vivid nova
@cosmic flume Draza pog
coral pier
blops 4 still has some of those issues, mind
neat dagger
i mean the things that kill alot of games for me, even cod, is the gross metas that pepole make, and currently in bo4, smgs feels a bit busted 
coral pier
namely everyone is everywhere
cosmic flume
@vivid nova Aory champ
coral pier
oh yeah blops 4 I never expect to be balanced
I just don't care
I don't mind having tiers
like
fucking Quake games have weapon tiers
cosmic flume
man i miss the black ops campaigns
coral pier
it's fine, just makes it more fun to be winning with a bad gun
vivid nova
every game always has a meta
unless a game only has 1 item
or all of them are the same
coral pier
yee
neat dagger
and me as a lvl 15 in bo4 multiplayer, i outperformed prestige master with a thousend more points. it just makes me wonder. like did they ever become good? 
coral pier
also having unbalance is good, to an extent
like a game needs to drive up emotions
it won't do that if everyone is on just super duper equal footing
oak arch
Metas as far as weapons and approaches go sure, but it's obvious that they're curbing hazards present to require you to utilize all the tools available to you
coral pier
what?
what hazards?
pits?
anyway new cod isn't balanced, I agree on that
I just enjoy how broken it is
like I play firebreak and run up to a wall and press a button and 3 dudes die
that's funny
that's stupid but funny
I'm okay with it
and also things are massively unbalanced but kinda have a way to telegraph themselves
so avoiding mean things is cool, too
and it's a big broken pile of gimmicks that all just excite me
it brings me back to days of Blacklight: Retribution
and that game was actually much better designed on top of being still somehow broken
maaaan it was a good time
cosmic flume
i forgot about that game
oak arch
Nah this game will have hazards on certain parts of the complex your exploring, some known to you ahead of time and others not.
coral pier
oh, that's
that's a very far removed convo from the one we've had
ok, I get ya, you're talking about GTFO
we were uh, talking about new cowadooties
but ok
oak arch
oh lol mb
manic cloak
someone say complex 
coral pier
I'll just call them intestines from now on.
since I made that whole allegory of game's design akin to players being a viral infection in an organism.
we're just navigating someone's capillary system and trying to do mean things to it
vivid nova
@manic cloak lmao
manic cloak
cosmic flume
i'm sure gtfo will be a very complex game
neat dagger
oak arch
Draza ily
vivid nova
we all love draza
cosmic flume
even I do
coral pier
how could I say no to a scarf like that
cosmic flume
ERNESTO is a pioneer of men's fashion
do not ask who ERNESTO is
it's a question to be answered at another time
manic cloak
Not gonna lie, I actually forgot about this game 
coral pier
<.<
manic cloak
college life 
coral pier
manic cloak
neat dagger
i mean i dont know much about draza but you seem like a swell guy 
neat dagger
im more of a cape kinda guy,
cosmic flume
i'm more of vodka or tequila mixed with cola, i don't really like beer
stoic pendant
🥞
coral pier
beer is for different occasions anyway, no harm done
glass prawn
There is one thing that always makes or breaks games
coral pier
for hard drinks I dig rum.
glass prawn
if the shotguns suck or not
cosmic flume
oh yeah rum too
coral pier
arr harr harr
man I was on a trip around northern europe and we got a bottle of fkin 69 proof rum and it was so good
sorry, just
any time I mention rum my mind wanders
to the good memories
young basin
Things happened 👀
upper stirrup
🙀
vivid nova
@white spire What's up?
white spire
upper stirrup
Yeahh
oak arch
they really need to just make it so the everyone role can't talk there and then grant i to admins/mods or whoever they want the ability to talk there
honest shoal
It'll get fixed
oak arch
yaya
young basin
Oh no even honey got promoted
honest shoal
Hahaha
young basin
cloud meadow
young basin
whos next
vivid nova
@young basin They're currently giving roles to people they know and who are willing to help out
young basin
Aye fair enough
neat dagger
oak rune
@cloud meadow Without actually trying to send anything, can you let me know if it allows you to type in #ambassador-announcements please.
cloud meadow
Nope. It's closed now!
oak rune
sweet, thx
cloud meadow
👌
upper stirrup
thank yooou
somber root
Closed to Guides, now too, fwiw
neat dagger
i mean this discord server is a wip for sure
somber root
It's only been "open" for 3 days.. probably gonna be a wip for a while...
cloud meadow
no rush tbh
neat dagger
yeah
upper stirrup
yes, we're just getting started. That is also why only ambassadors are invited as of yet. Your feedback is very valuable
somber root
not really. the game itself is still months out, so.... 😃
upper stirrup
Rome wasn't built in a day and all that
young basin
I think there should be a channel where we can send messages
Not sure though
What are you guys thoughts
upper stirrup
send what kind of messages?
cloud meadow
I'd like the ability to use my fingers (which are attached to my hands) to inscribe insignias that are used for communicative purposes.
neat dagger
Now that there are more guides and mods, they should pin any question that gets awnserd by the devs in either questions or suggestions. becuse then pepole can look at the context of it and get the full picture, but some mods wherent up to the idea
somber root
I was gonna say, there are a lot of channels that are open..
cloud meadow
That's impossible.
somber root
You could always hold a one-sided PM conversation with one of the bots... 😉
cloud meadow
GTFO Bot is very polite.
upper stirrup
there's a channel called discord-suggestions
cloud meadow
He won't abuse your email at all.
upper stirrup
cloud meadow
😏
young basin
Oh ok
upper stirrup
so any suggestions for the server, please send it there and we will look into it 😃
oak rune
@neat dagger there is a 50 pin limit per channel, so pinning too much will start making the use of pins void. I don't usually see people scrolling that far back in pins either.
errant summit
ambassador hype!! 😄
tall mason
😀
neon tapir
sonic lotus
marble parcel
okay, hello everybody :D i've got the ambassador status and what is it all about? :D
cloud stag
You got the email right? Think it's because we expressed interest on their.... website? in the past.
We signed up with email for notifications or something
sage cypress
Elitism
cloud stag
Yeet
neat dagger
well they are gonna make the role a bit more special with time.
vestal blade
Means we special
neat dagger
but for now its just email news,
cloud stag
It's kinda nice having orange names tbh instead of plain grey
marble parcel
^ agree :D
analog spoke
yeah XD
inland gust
Hopefully! This game will also be able to be played on lower end PC's.
For, variety.
neon tapir
if the hopes are to be gone by, it should be well optimized and accessible
vivid nova
- What is the minimum/recommended PC specs for GTFO?
We are confident that GTFO will be well optimized and not demand too much of your computer. In any case, GTFO is not meant to be a ultra high requirement, "benchmark test" sort of product. The development team uses computers from around 2014-2015 to play the unoptimized development version of the game and even capture trailer video footage (Intel i7 4790, GeForce GTX 970, 16 Gb RAM.)
vivid nova
toxic
neon tapir
nuh uh, i love ya 
vivid nova
❤
neon tapir
i only do it to save you the work uwu
fleet bison
i7 4790K is a great CPU
young basin
will this run on my 486
fleet bison
486, the 2000's processor?
neon tapir
lol
young basin
it ran spreadsheets so well!
young basin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHH5L39YtDE#t=3m25s (3:25 because youtube sux)
vivid nova
Excel is pretty demanding
neon tapir
all dem nunmbers man
fleet bison
Spreadsheets, not Excel. If I remember correctly, so is it the Win 95 version of it. A very basic program.
Maybe even Win 3.1 actually
neon tapir
no shhhh
stoic pendant
🥞
upper stirrup
talking about Excel, my brother told me about a financial institution having so crazy Excel sheets they needed 0.5 TB ram to open them. It's crazy many still hang on to Excel
young basin
excel is still useful
the problem is when people begin to use it like ms office access
upper stirrup
yes, but if you're doing trades in the 100's of millions, it's not safe
sometimes the one responsible for creating the sheets isn't at the company anymore so no one really knows what it does. But yeah, I use Excel on a daily basis, but for huge deals there are better applications nowadays
prisma goblet
Question for devs/admin - will there be a chance for a preview copy at one point, to record for YouTube and such? :)
somber root
There will eventually be a closed beta when the game gets a little closer to launch. Since it will be a closed beta, I'm not sure we'll be able to share our content publicly, but we'll see how it turns out.
fiery tiger
somber root
Anything is possible at this point, and yeah, the free marketing bit is a good point
still juniper
send it to big youtuber as jacksepticeye
or markiplier
might as well twet them now
from the dev account oc
somber root
Those decisions are way above my paygrade... lol
vivid nova
@prisma goblet There might be a promo phase before release
that is not confirmed though
Maybe contact Simon about that one
still juniper
contact him where?
if the demo is release before this year, would that make a really good hype train?
vivid nova
It won't
vivid nova
There won't be any beta/promo phase in 2018
still juniper
well, it's an if
vivid nova
Contact him on Discord btw
still juniper
which one is him?
vivid nova
SimonViklund
acoustic glacier
Don’t expect anything playable during the two weeks left of this year - we need some holiday as well 😅
still juniper
we will wait for it tho
versed terrace
Did you create your own networking library for GTFO or are you using an existing one? A bit curious if I may 👀
unity's default networking sucks
acoustic glacier
We primarly use steam
prisma goblet
@vivid nova Thanks for your response, will send the question his way :)
acoustic glacier
They do, ”free” as well. we do p2p using steam
neat dagger
i mean i dont mind what store gets used, aslong as it isent a exklusivity deal 
white spire
Have u considered releasing on the Epic store? Like, as much as i hate fortnite , the profit share is much better than steam's one , and Epic is by no means small.
cosmic flume
they're gonna do P2P through Steam so I'm not sure if that would be possible
versed terrace
I hope Epic gets an online subsystem like Steam's
neat dagger
i mean epic gets alot of flack now, but i feel we just have to give it some more time. let them work on it, i just hope they dont get alot of data breaches like orgin has, becuse im already paranoid enough about my information getting leaked 