Dark mode reporting form points to mediawiki.org

[azure river]

Hey all, sorry I'm new to this community but wanted to report a bug in Vector 2022 that impacts your wikis: https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T13285 - could you help me direct this to the correct place?

[leaden kernel]

Phorge tends to be the right place for tech stuff

I don’t have push access to config but I can take a check

[leaden kernel]

Hm, this is a link to a page that users go to report issues with the local wiki’s dark mode styling?

[cobalt lantern]

oh heh, we mentioned this in #tech

[leaden kernel]

Bahaha

[cobalt lantern]

pretty interesting to see someone from WMF here

pretty honored

might make a shrine

[leaden kernel]

ha. ha.

anyways

If this is the case, it may be better to remove by default because the vast majority of wikis don’t have a community noticeboard or infrastructure to report this

hell most dont have a css person

And the ones who do would be varied

[cobalt lantern]

well regardless, we’re going to override it locally through MirahezeMagic

[leaden kernel]

Should we make the message default to non link ask them to find an admin?

[cobalt lantern]

I’d direct them to the Community noticeboard

[leaden kernel]

Well most wikis don’t have one

[cobalt lantern]

er, I’m sorry, the “help desk”

[cobalt lantern]

why would we direct them locally?

[leaden kernel]

two generations out if date lmao

[leaden kernel]

Pardon?

My understanding is the button is for local specific styling issues

So why direct to meta

As I said

But directing to meta won’t be much use either

[cobalt lantern]

Help desk is the de jure place for help

[leaden kernel]

Mmmmmmmmmmm

[cobalt lantern]

anyway, OA claimed the task

[leaden kernel]

unless we want a new rfc for global interface admin I dont see much use in reporting epicmusicradiodiskfanon’s incomplete CSS on meta

but better then no where

[cobalt lantern]

there’s really no room for debate, help desk is the catch-all

[leaden kernel]

what the hell let’s do it

Worst case we go to plan gaslighting

[azure river]

You could also disable dark mode by default if that makes sense?

                                "logged_in":false,
                                "beta": false ];

[leaden kernel]

I’d rather not remove functionality personally

[azure river]

i'm not sure how "ready" wikis are on Miraheze and whether you need to communicate it's existence but that's definitely your call.

[cobalt lantern]

We aim to provide an experience as close to as out of box vanilla MediaWiki so while we wouldn’t force the default behavior change, we could probably offer an option in ManageWiki

[leaden kernel]

As someone who uses VecDark on enwiki I quite like it, plus would confuse people

[azure river]

you can also enable for anonymous users.

(the default is currently disabled for anons)

https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Miraheze_Meta?vectornightmode=1 needs some love btw 🙂

[cobalt lantern]

oh dear

color: black !important;

[leaden kernel]

given we have 10k+ wikis sadly we don’t have great communication with each one, since our options are limited, global notices must he done sparingly emails are messy but on the to do most of the our users doesn’t know our name besides the url etc

[leaden kernel]

Oh

oh no

@cobalt lantern i got this dont worry

[[Special:Delete/Miraheze Meta]]

[azure goblet]

https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:DeletePage/Miraheze_Meta

[leaden kernel]

god damn it my yubi key is like

uh

30 feet away

[leaden kernel]

two for one

anyways

we’re pointing the link globally to HD?

[cobalt lantern]

SRE will see to it

[leaden kernel]

Haven’t heard that name in a while

[azure river]

his was written for Wikimedia but might also apply to Miraheze if you want to fork it: www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Recommendations_for_night_mode_compatibility_on_Wikimedia_wikis

[leaden kernel]

Which parts are specifically Wikimedia and not mediawiki

[azure river]

Most of it can be applied to any MediaWiki that uses templates.

A few gotchas:

• It refers to certain classes such as skin-invert that might not exist in Miraheze wikis (until created).
• I am not sure if Miraheze wikis support TemplateStyles and other extensions that may be needed.
  Basically if any of the tips don't apply to your wiki you might need to install something, add some code to MediaWiki:Common.css or remove it from your own version of the docs.

[leaden kernel]

we do have TemplateStyles

We have like 300+ extensions so may as well get th good ones too lmao

[leaden kernel]

Could you explain the skin invert class a bit

[leaden kernel]

(btw links are blocked on #verify because spammers horra

blasted auto mod

My bad, looks like skin-invert is part of Vector, so no changes needed. If you add that class to any element in a template/wikimarkup it tells dark mode it's safe to invert colors in the HTML element. It's all in that write up.

It's considered a dark mode shortcut (I talk about that and the pitfalls in https://medium.com/@dlyall/dark-modes-bright-future-how-we-hope-dark-mode-will-transform-wikipedia-accessibility-c7a74c5d0a1b)

@azure river sorry about that

[storm rapids]

I once made a post about that on the Meta help desk like two weeks ago or something like that but nobody replied, sadly. Those white boxes also appear on pages like the stewardess board and similar pages - but only in the vector skin.

[leaden kernel]

where on steward requests?