zenith badger
How do I use infoboxes effectively for my wiki? Are the infoboxes supposed to pop up as red links in the preview or are they supposed to be shown as actual infoboxes? I’ve been trying to research how these work and I can’t seem to figure it out. I’m really new to this, so I’m not sure
Here is my wiki link. I’ve been trying to make an infobox for the “Paradise” page:
https://nullyverse.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page
cyan vector
Hi! First off, have you read [[Infoboxes]] ?
grand birchBOT
cyan vector
We cannot see the Paradise page, as the wiki appears to be private
zenith badger
Oh yeah. That was intentional. I completely forgot
And I’ve been looking through every other wiki page on infoboxes except for the Miraheze one
cyan vector
The one I linked should be pretty helpful since other platforms can have specific things that do not work here
cyan vector
To answer your questions though, a working infobox should not show up as a red link. In a nutshell, infoboxes are templates, just a specific type of template sometimes. You first have to create an infobox template page, and then call it on the page. A red link means you haven't created an infobox template yet. This is explained more clearly in the guide
And to prevent a common mistake, an infobox template is an empty infobox with no values. You provide the values on the regular page when you call it. Again, that should make more sense after reading the guide if it's confusing for now
zenith badger
So do I have to input the infobox values into the template page itself in order to use it in other pages?
cyan vector
the opposite
zenith badger
What
cyan vector
if you mean the values that change
the labels are defined in the infobox template
please see the guide for examples, and possibly read a guide on templates if you don't fully understand the concept https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Templates/en
templates have parameters, and that's what you use to input data into them
zenith badger
Ah
cyan vector
Are templates a new concept to you or just infoboxes? If you're new to wiki editing, I'd recommend experimenting with simple templates first before diving info infoboxes which can get more complex 
zenith badger
I’m very much new to everything about wiki editing. I’m always the type of person to go from step 1 to step 17
Are there any simpler templates you recommend?
cyan vector
You could try making your own templates to understand the idea. Even if you don't have a function in mind it can be sandbox templates. A common thing to make also is a "message box" or "mbox" that is put at the top of the page with various messages, for example "this page is a stub". You could try making this template with either a table, or a div element
cyan vector
please see the guide for examples, and possibly read a guide on templates if you...
Text can be a template too, as illustrated in ^
zenith badger
Cool. I’ve been wondering how those work, too, so that’d be nice
I still don’t understand how I’m supposed to format the template pages though
I can clearly see that I can link to the template pages but
cyan vector
No fancy formatting necessary, treat them as regular pages for now. The only thing specific to templates is parameters
You do not link but transclude them. Please read through the guide carefully first
zenith badger
I can’t comprehend things to save my life I’m so sorry
I’m trying to read through this
Now I’m even more confused
Seriously, what am I supposed to put into the template pages
Putting the templates into the page just isn’t working
zenith badger
I’ve been trying to figure this out for the last one and a half hours
I’m still confused
I’ve been reading countless articles and I still don’t get it
Nothing is working
Please, what do I do
cyan vector
@storm niche hi, would you have a moment to help this user? I'm unavailable currently
cyan vector
@zenith badger two questions, since if we started explaining now we would be inevitably repeating the guides you just read:
storm niche
Please, what do I do
The problem is that we are unable to see what it looks like.
Could you temporarily enable viewing, or give some of us access?
We can only tell you where you can find info on how Templates work.
You could look at [[dev:Category:Templates]] and see how they are build.
Look at the source code (click on edit and see what is in the edit window.)
And indeed follow the links already given by Xena.
grand birchBOT
cyan vector
Make sure you're using the source editor also
zenith badger
<@547838143840124938> two questions, since if we started explaining now we would...
zenith badger
The problem is that we are unable to see what it looks like.
Could you temporari...
Ok. How do I give people access
unborn geode
You would visit Special:UserRights locally and add them to the member group