#I tap the down button and phase into the ground... What mod is causing this?

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slow coral
manic pebble
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try this

hybrid sequoiaBOT
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A mod bisect is a way to find a misbehaving mod without having to check them one by one.
Here are steps on how to do it:

  1. Disable half of your enabled mods.
  2. Check to see if the issue persists.
  • If it does:
    • The mod that is causing the issue is still enabled. Disable half of your enabled mods.
  • If it doesn't:
    • The problematic mod has just been disabled. Enable the mods you just disabled, and disable the ones you had enabled.
  1. Repeat step 2 until you narrow your search to 1 mod.
manic pebble
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i suspect leavethecastle might be doing something

icy charm
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This is that one tricky issue that started happening a few months ago. We don't know what causes it since no one has been able to reproduce it consistently and it seems to go away after restarting the game.
#modding_general message

slow coral
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how do u disable mods, just in olympus?

manic pebble
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yeah but idk if you should restart now

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i thought it was that but i wasnt sure

manic pebble
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wrong reply

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but eh

hybrid sequoiaBOT
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There are two types of logs; crash logs and log.txt.

Crash logs are generated when you see an "Oooops! :(" crash handler screen. They contain extra information which regular logs don't.
To access those, there's a button that says Open log file folder, which should take you to where they're stored. Make sure to grab the latest one!

For more subtle issues, non-crashing problems or other miscellaneous stuff, log.txt is checked. To find it, do the following:

  • Open Olympus.
  • Press the Manage button in the Installations panel on Olympus' main menu. (it's to the left)
  • Press Browse to open the Celeste folder.
  • Look for the file named exactly log.txt inside that folder. Do not grab error_log.txt or look into the LogHistory folder as those are not the log.txt you're looking for.

Your username may sometimes show up in those logs. If you're concerned about that, remember to censor it before uploading. Every text editor should have a replace function, commonly opened with Ctrl+H.

slow coral
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restarting the game definitely isnt fixing it

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alr

manic pebble
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oh huh

icy charm
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That's good

manic pebble
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then yeah narrow down the mods

slow coral
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i guess theres no option to sort mods by recently installed?

manic pebble
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no

icy charm
slow coral
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huh its gone now

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not happening

normal lynx
slow coral
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i didn't even disable anything

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but yea this happened before where it randomly stopped

manic pebble
icy charm
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Do you alt tab out of the celeste window often?

slow coral
icy charm
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That has been the only causing factor I've come across. But it seems unlikely.

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Since one other person said that caused it.

normal lynx
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Have you ever played Feather Map when it randomly happened

manic pebble
slow coral
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feather map?

manic pebble
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or if you hold alt for a long while

icy charm
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Iirc they said they tabbed out and back in while respawning and then the issue started.

slow coral
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oh yea

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holding alt

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caused it

manic pebble
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okay i know whats happening then

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some times the "key released" event doesn't reach celeste

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making it think the alt key is held

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most commonly happens when alt+tabbing

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theres already reports of the game ""closing" because of them pressing their [insert action] bind

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only to find out the bind is f4 and alt was stuck on from alt tabbing

icy charm
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hilarious

manic pebble
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anyways

slow coral
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ah ic

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any idea what alt is binded to here

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or alt-down or whatever it is

manic pebble
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no clue because it could be hardcoded

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you can now narrow it down now that we know how to reproduce it

normal lynx
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I'm thinking of alt+tabbing is helpful for placement games

icy charm
manic pebble
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bisect from the list of mods kuksa sent

slow coral
slow coral
manic pebble
slow coral
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alright

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do i need to restart celeste every time i disable a mod

manic pebble
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99% sure it's viddie's toolbox
-# and by 99% i mean 0% because it's a theory i made up on the spot from the feels

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yes

icy charm
manic pebble
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i just went back in time and put it there wym

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lmao

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anyways damn

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maybe srt/celestetas ig

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or tashelper

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no clue

icy charm
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Well at least now that we know it's caused by the key we could just do static analysis of each mod.

manic pebble
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yeah

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but its easier to just narrow it down

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plot twist its vanilla

icy charm
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Imagine if this lead to hot mess skip for speedruns lol

normal lynx
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I remember that a certain helper has a jumpthru that you can pass it by held down

icy charm
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That's not really relevant. Especially since the clipping happens in all directions.

slow coral
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ok so its not memorialHelper, NerdHelper, OutbackHelper, PandorasBox, PrismaticHelper, Sardine7, ShroomHelper, SorbetHelper, StyleMaskHelper, VivHelper, VortexHelper, XaphanHelper

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rip all of my maps that depend on these

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back to disabling

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its not EeveeHelper, ExtendedVariantMode, FactoryHelper, FancyTileEntities, FemtoHelper, FlaglinesAndSuch, FrostHelper, GravityHelper, HonlyHelper, IsaGrabBag, JackalHelper, JungleHelper, LuaCutscenes, LunaticHelper, MaxHelpingHand, memorialHelper, NerdHelper, OutbackHelper, PandorasBox, PrismaticHelper, Sardine7, ShroomHelper, SorbetHelper, StyleMaskHelper, VivHelper, VortexHelper, XaphanHelper

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damn i shouldve started from thet op

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so its either AdventureHelper, Anonhelper, AurorasHelper, Batteries, BounceHelper, BrokemiaHelper, CanyonHelper

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yea its definitely vanilla fr

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AdventureHelper, Anonhelper, AurorasHelper

manic pebble
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i bet its auroras

slow coral
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I disabled all of them

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and its still happening

manic pebble
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??????

normal lynx
icy charm
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uhh

slow coral
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i guess that was a waste of time shouldve just done disable all

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lol

normal lynx
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so how it does or not with some mod

manic pebble
icy charm
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The exclusive Celeste v1.5.0.0 got dropped to random people 3dgrineline

slow coral
manic pebble
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yeah you definitely dont have everything disabled

slow coral
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everything in the list i mean

normal lynx
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Assuming it is a mod outside the list

manic pebble
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disable absolutely everything then

icy charm
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Well that's cool.

slow coral
manic pebble
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no, disable absolutely everything

slow coral
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alr

manic pebble
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later you can go through the mods you had enabled

slow coral
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well disabling everything fixed it

normal lynx
icy charm
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So somebody sent me their log.txt after disabling some mods and relauching the game even when I told them not to peaceline

manic pebble
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ok so it is a mod

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enable the first half of the mods you had enabled in your video

normal lynx
icy charm
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It's luckyhelper. catsnug

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Nearly missed that since It's using the arrow keys for the movement and not the player movement keys, Thankfully one of my movement keys overlasp with up arrow youknowicattodoittoem

zenith cradle
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can confirm

icy charm
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Somehow not surprised

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How can they make so good mods but have the weirdest issues sobeline

zenith cradle
normal lynx
icy charm
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🔥 _ _

normal lynx
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debug and makes bug derpeline

zenith cradle
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so they were so close to making this a reasonable feature, tying it to a setting

except they made that setting default to true and then also not exist in the settings menu

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that's so poggers

icy charm
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mhm. I will now do the honorary underdragon ping unless the creator is on this server.

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@clever kindle Hello! Your helper mod has the debug features set enabled by default and this has been causing random people to get clipped into walls for the past few months. All you need to do is set it to false by default.

zenith cradle
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i'm not sure changing the default is enough actually since it won't change the setting for anyone who has the mod installed already

icy charm
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Oh I though the SettingIgnore prevented saving. Seems it doesn't.

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Lucky hasn't sent any messages in this server so I'll ping @paper forge anyway.
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normal lynx
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we already have MappingUtils to freely go through the wall and ground

zenith cradle
slow coral
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yep

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its luckyhelper

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well I guess its a cool celestenet party trick thumbeline

icy charm
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One of the first instances of this issue was discovered on cnet gladstare

manic pebble
glacial berry
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it wasn't meant to stay there

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done

manic pebble
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so that it staying there is actually fine

glacial berry
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i understand

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will try to use better logging practices next time thumbeline

manic pebble
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thank you, appreciate it

glacial berry
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also still happy birthday

manic pebble
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writelines bother me because it's very hard to trace what is doing them

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also thank you snip_embarrassed

glacial berry
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makes sense, thanks for letting me know!

paper forge
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I'll notify them

clever kindle
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sorry for so stupid bugs 😭

icy charm
slow coral