#Bounce helper dream blocks not working properly

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full sleet
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The problem I'm encountering is that the dream blocks aren't pushing me as much as they're supposed to, and it's causing a TAS desync. It seems to desync only for me, and it could be only happening in the map Childhood from Breeze Contest as I couldn't definitively replicate it elsewhere. What's supposed to happen in the TAS is that it pushes you out of the bottom of the dream block.
Log is from shortly after dashing through the dream block.

earnest jacinth
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there has been two reports now, potentially ping the mapper or author of the dream blocks to get them to look into it

full sleet
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Hi, @eternal flame see above
also, from looking more closely at the TAS it seems I'm never getting downwards speed, but I get pushed down by a constant 3.33 downwards velocity every frame

eternal flame
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is this only happening with that specific dream block? could you check if it happens with the rest aswell?

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the internal acceleration should be of 200. this applies to (maybe not, but almost) all downwards pushing dream blocks

full sleet
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I checked the next room and it still happens

eternal flame
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Did brontest update recently?

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i'll check the gb page

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21 days ago. tho i assume this issue is more recent than that?

earnest jacinth
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oh also i forgot disable all mods except dependencies and check if its still broken

eternal flame
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I'll open the non-contest version myself to test if it might be a Brontest issue instead of a map issue

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seems to be working correctly in the standalone version

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so now, i'll close the game and reopen with Breeze Contest

full sleet
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seems to work correctly when I disable all other mods

eternal flame
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hm

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so you have only enabled the mods required by Brontest?

full sleet
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yes

eternal flame
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welp, guess that maybe a mod conflicts with Bounce Helper in some way

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i'll still do the brontest test myself to see if one of the mods i currently have enabled myself cause this issue

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i forgot how many there were laugheline

full sleet
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btw how exactly did you make the waterfall dream block setups? are they just bounce helper dream blocks? that seems relevant

eternal flame
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the way it works is that the effect on regular waterfalls pushing you down is actually just a wind tunnel, and because wind doesn't affect you inside dream blocks, i used BH DBs that push you down by a similar factor

full sleet
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BH DBs?

eternal flame
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Bounce Helper Dream Blocks

full sleet
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oh ok

eternal flame
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got lazy

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there's still wind going through the entirety of the waterfall despite the dream block, but that's both to give the sense that even tho you can't swim, the waterfall will still push you down, and to prevent some cheese

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works fine for me

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tho i did just find a crash lol

full sleet
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fwiw, it still works with speedrun tool, TAS tools, and all my loenn plugins

eternal flame
# eternal flame tho i did just find a crash lol

it's possible to buffer a dash when entering the final jungle cutscene and go back because there are no barriers preventing you to go back, and since you're in a dummy state with no cutscene, Skipping cutscene crashes laugheline

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fantastic how i prevented and fixed so many, only to find another one months later

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well, back to the matter; it must be some other mod somehow breaking BH dream blocks

full sleet
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still works with SJ enabled

eternal flame
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i wonder if the creator of BH is aware of this issue

shy glade
eternal flame
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well, Hi Flynn (when you read this), are you aware/know of any mod conflict or issue that seems to be breaking BH dream blocks? as it seems to be happening here to Vegetation

full sleet
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I've narrowed it down to 4 mods and their helpers

earnest jacinth
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this still leaves room for a lot laugheline

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if you pin point the exact helper do ping the author

full sleet
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ok

full sleet
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The conflict seems to be with Aqua @proper ivy

summer tree
# eternal flame well, Hi Flynn (when you read this), are you aware/know of any mod conflict or i...

Hey. Yeah this is the first I'm hearing about this kind of thing. Seems like a conflict with another helper. I'm currently away until roughly the 19th, and so I can't help with this, but if the fix does involve a (sensible) change to Bounce Helper, then feel free to submit a pr to the repo and ping me

GitHub

A mod for the game Celeste, which makes some changes to the fundemental mechanics, as well as adding a couple new spins on vanilla entities - FlynnSC/BounceHelper

shy glade
summer tree
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Yeah, ideally the fix doesn't require a change to Bounce Helper, but if it does let me know

eternal flame
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we currently don't know why the issue occurs, but when/if we do we'll make sure to let you know

proper ivy
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Sry, a known issue and fixed in next release.