celest warren
Hello, I'm working on a speedy portion of my map, and want the player to respawn in the previous room if they die after transitioning to the next room and not landing on safe ground, similar to what is done frequently in mauve. any tips?
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weird q I know, if i can offer any clarification lmk
robust prism
Hello, I'm working on a speedy portion of my map, and want the player to respawn...
you can set the spawnpoint of a room outside of the room!
so simply move the spawnpoint of the 2nd room to the same position that the spawnpoint of the 1st room is
upon dying in the 2nd room the player will instantly retransition back to the first room
then, you can add a change respawn trigger to the area that you consider safe ground (presumably the floor in the 2nd room at the end of the speed chain)
celest warren
ooooh
let me try that
its killed me upon respawn lol
might be a save issue one sec
ill record a clip
unless u knoww whats happening
robust prism
hm
celest warren
robust prism
you get stuck in an infinite loop of instantly dying?
robust prism
oh ok so thats um
rancid warren
yea i don't think this'll work with the rooms shaped like that
robust prism
ok i had a different room layout in mind
im not sure how to stop the void from instakilling you
celest warren
lollllll
rancid warren
i think what you can do instead is have the default spawn point inside a solid or something and put a teleport trigger that puts you at the previous room
robust prism
^ but to make things simpler just put a spike lol
like uhhh
lemme draw it
place the respawn point for the 2nd room in that topleft corner of the 1st room
and just put a spike over that respawn point
so upon dying in the 2nd room, the player will instantly go back to the first room, die, and then respawn at the bottom right
rancid warren
i hate that lol
robust prism
if it doesnt kill the player you ccan move it up a pixel or two
celest warren
i wonder if there's a helper for this
robust prism
you can like tick a box to fix this
celest warren
one sec
rancid warren
not sure that'll work great here
you can't really diagonally transition between rooms in any capacity
afaik
celest warren
yeah it focuses on the first room in the map, before the first room in the clip, and when i jump it brings madeline into the doorway
where the key block is
robust prism
ah ok
rancid warren
yeah that's what i mean by you can't transition diagonally
robust prism
ok so all the rooms are perfectly placed to prevent uh
rancid warren
if it's trying a downward transition you'll always get pushed within the current horizontal bounds of the room
rancid warren
just do the teleport trigger thing tbh
celest warren
ill try it, and update if it works!
rancid warren
yeah it focuses on the first room in the map, before the first room in the clip,...
also madeline can't transition vertically while grounded which is why it waited before jumping first, if this trick did work here you'd want to place the spawnpoint slightly above the ground by a px or two
but it wouldn't solve the underlying problem of it putting you in the wrong room
robust prism
introducing an extra helper just to fix a room respawn is kinda weh but i do understand the frustration with a setup that kills the player twice 😭
that would be annoying to play
robust prism
also judging by what the rooms look like rn it looks like walking right from 2nd room respawn will softlock the game XD
just pointin it out in case you didnt know
celest warren
oh. is there a way to make a wall fade in there after walking in?
never done this before lol, first map
robust prism
im not sure how to do that tbh
what i do is like
a sideways jumpthrough behind the screen
celest warren
one way platform?
robust prism
but thats probably not good practice
celest warren
yeah
robust prism
it would also add another helper
celest warren
rq, how do you aadd the target of the teleport? i have the trigger, but it doesnt do anything lol
nvm
found it
rancid warren
a sideways jumpthrough behind the screen
you can do this with an invisible barrier
just outside the screen
celest warren
one more q
thank you btw thats perfect
how do i get it to switch to the new respawn point
does the change respawn trigger have to contain the respawn point?
rancid warren
it just goes to the closest one by default when you touch the trigger
celest warren
but when i die it just spwans me in at that point lol
instead of going to the other point in the other room
argh
rancid warren
put the teleport thing closer to the transition
so it defaults to that spawnpoint when you enter the room
or if that's not feasible, use a respawn target trigger near the transition (which is distinct from a change respawn trigger, this one only works immediately after screen transitioning) and place the node by wherever the setup is
celest warren
ill try that out
thank yall so much for the help, this is aa weird issue. now i know that diagonal is bad lol
scenic shoal
ill try that out
viv helper has spawnpoints for specifically this
I forget the exact name of them but if you search @viv into loenn it'll show things only from viv helper (technically any helper starting with viv 
)
rancid warren
viv helper has spawnpoints for specifically this
if you mean these then uhh 
scenic shoal
uh maybe?
if they are I can probably get the placements for them rq
target (place in the first room)
{
{
Color = "White",
Depth = 5000,
OutlineColor = "Black",
ShowTexture = false,
Texture = "VivHelper/player_outline",
_fromLayer = "entities",
_id = 13,
_name = "VivHelper/InterRoomSpawnTarget",
_type = "entity",
flipX = false,
forceFacing = true,
tag = 1,
x = 16,
y = 96
}
}
spawner (put in the rooms you want to take you back to the first, with no normal spawnpoint)
{
{
Color = "White",
Depth = 5000,
Flags = "",
OutlineColor = "Black",
ShowTexture = false,
Texture = "VivHelper/player_outline",
_fromLayer = "entities",
_id = 12,
_name = "VivHelper/InterRoomSpawner",
_type = "entity",
flipX = false,
tag = 1,
x = 24,
y = 136
}
}
wait what happens if there is supposed to also be a normal spawnpoint in the room though
like it's supposed to take you back but only up until you reach a certain point in the room at which point you should just respawn there normally
scenic shoal
I don't know quite how it works with other normal ones
might still work but I never tested it
rancid warren
also wait that's a different shade of purple than i remember your name being 
gg on the Mod But Better
polar swan
if you mean these then uhh <:catplush:1204181568487165962>
haiii somehow I can't find these even with vivhelper installed
I'm so confused
sorry for ping but I had to grab someone's attention 
charred pendant
haiii somehow I can't find these even with vivhelper installed
the "Ahorn":
charred pendant
yep
polar swan
that's so sad
charred pendant
target (place in the first room)
```
{
{
Color = "White",
De...
however you can copy paste the entity
polar swan
ah that's a decent workaround
charred pendant
it won't show up correctly but it will be there
polar swan
thanks!
rancid warren
it also just so happens that another mod just added this separately #modding_updates message
polar swan
omg yay thanks for notifying
