How to access winged golden | Mt. Celeste Climbing Association | Page 1

royal sigil Jan 20, 2024, 9:59 PM

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How do I make this display winged?

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How to access winged golden

hushed jackal Jan 20, 2024, 10:27 PM

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I am not aware of whether this entity supports access to specific loops of a sprite. That said, by creating and referencing a new Sprites.xml file and implementing a custom sprite that utilizes the goldberry's winged texture in its initial loop, you can reference that with this entity. Would you like any assistance in setting this up @royal sigil ?

royal sigil Jan 20, 2024, 10:41 PM

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hushed jackal I am not aware of whether this entity supports access to specific loops of a spr...

Yes please

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Thank you (:

hushed jackal Jan 20, 2024, 10:41 PM

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Before we begin, I will quickly find the existing winged goldberry sprite and see if that can be referenced

royal sigil Jan 20, 2024, 10:41 PM

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smiele

hushed jackal Jan 20, 2024, 10:42 PM

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Try goldberry/flap in Sprite?

royal sigil Jan 20, 2024, 10:42 PM

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Ok

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nope

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:(

hushed jackal Jan 20, 2024, 10:42 PM

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Ok, we will utilize a custom Sprites.xml file

royal sigil Jan 20, 2024, 10:42 PM

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Ok

hushed jackal Jan 20, 2024, 10:43 PM

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Have you utilized any custom graphics, such as tilesets, in your mod?

royal sigil Jan 20, 2024, 10:43 PM

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yes

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<goldberryflap path="collectables/goldberry/" start="flap">

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like this?

hushed jackal Jan 20, 2024, 10:44 PM

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Perfect. In your Graphics folder please ensure there is a subfolder containing a name that will be unique to your projects; your name would suffice

royal sigil Jan 20, 2024, 10:44 PM

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Yes

hushed jackal Jan 20, 2024, 10:44 PM

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exactly :)

royal sigil Jan 20, 2024, 10:44 PM

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Already have that setup as well as copy of xml

hushed jackal Jan 20, 2024, 10:44 PM

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then simply <Loop id="flap" path="wings" delay=".08" frames="0-8,0-8,0-7,9"/>

royal sigil Jan 20, 2024, 10:45 PM

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`<goldberryflap path="collectables/goldberry/" start="flap">
<Center />

<Loop id="idle" path="idle" delay=".08" frames="0-5,0-5,0-5,0-5,0-7" />
<Anim id="collect" path="idle" delay=".07" frames="7-11"/>
<Loop id="flap" path="wings" delay=".08" frames="0-8,0-8,0-7,9" />

</goldberry>`

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I used default but copied it

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Is this right?

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Like, there are 2 of this, but only one is goldberryflap

hushed jackal Jan 20, 2024, 10:45 PM

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Thinking about this, there is a possibility depending how this entity was coded that this will not function as is

royal sigil Jan 20, 2024, 10:46 PM

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hmm

hushed jackal Jan 20, 2024, 10:46 PM

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I'll paste a more reliable structure

royal sigil Jan 20, 2024, 10:46 PM

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I figured that just changing the loop would work

hushed jackal Jan 20, 2024, 10:46 PM

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<Loop id="idle" path="wings" delay=".08" frames="0-8,0-8,0-7,9" />
<Anim id="collect" path="idle" delay=".07" frames="7-11"/>

</goldberryflap>

royal sigil Jan 20, 2024, 10:46 PM

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Ok

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(:

hushed jackal Jan 20, 2024, 10:47 PM

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For all we know berries are hardcoded to start in the idle loop; changing what that references seems a decent solution

royal sigil Jan 20, 2024, 10:47 PM

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Ok

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@hushed jackal Thanks (:

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hushed jackal Jan 20, 2024, 10:50 PM

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Does the sprite function exactly how you would like? I suspect that the sprite's vertical displacement will be more limited than a standard winged berry

royal sigil Jan 20, 2024, 10:50 PM

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Oh its fine

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It doesnt need to function like a winged berry

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Btw

hushed jackal Jan 20, 2024, 10:50 PM

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Ok perfect. I am fairly certain if you are content with this solution you can mark this as resolved, alternatively I could ping an active helper

royal sigil Jan 20, 2024, 10:51 PM

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hushed jackal Ok perfect. I am fairly certain if you are content with this solution you can ma...

I am content (:

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Oh

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1 more thing

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How do I make it so theo will respawn in a room, but only if you bring him in

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So if you enter without theo, there is no theo

hushed jackal Jan 20, 2024, 10:52 PM

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I do not know of a purpose-built entity for this goal, I actually intend to code something that does this but it will be a while before it is made

royal sigil Jan 20, 2024, 10:52 PM

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Ok

hushed jackal Jan 20, 2024, 10:53 PM

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I will design a trigger trigger/eeveehelper entity that fits this purpose though, give me some time

royal sigil Jan 20, 2024, 10:53 PM

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hushed jackal I will design a trigger trigger/eeveehelper entity that fits this purpose though...

Ok, thanks (:

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I am making the winged golden thing a secret for if you bring theo through the whole map, but there is the respawning issue

hushed jackal Jan 20, 2024, 10:54 PM

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...I can't right now actually, I just remembered I cant get Lonn to function. I will if I can get that working but no promises it will be quick

royal sigil Jan 20, 2024, 10:55 PM

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hushed jackal ...I can't right now actually, I just remembered I cant get Lonn to function. I ...

Okay (: Its fine if you cant

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The secret is gonna be like the secret theo in summit downside, but with multiple rooms

hushed jackal Jan 20, 2024, 10:58 PM

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I notice Brokemia Helper includes an entity labelled Theo Respawn and French Helper contains Fancy Theo Crystal which may include this as an option

royal sigil Jan 20, 2024, 10:58 PM

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Theo respawn does not work for this

hushed jackal Jan 20, 2024, 10:58 PM

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Please can you show me the interface for Theo Respawn in Lonn?

royal sigil Jan 20, 2024, 10:59 PM

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Yes

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OMG
OMG

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FLAGGGGGGGGGGG

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ok

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fixed

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i can set a flag

hushed jackal Jan 20, 2024, 10:59 PM

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Yep, that's what I was looking for. Perfect xD

royal sigil Jan 20, 2024, 10:59 PM

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lmao

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Thanks for all the help smiele

royal sigil Jan 20, 2024, 11:22 PM

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@hushed jackal

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😦

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📎 error_log.txt

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plz help

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it wont collect

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(it crashed as soon as I collected it)

hushed jackal Jan 20, 2024, 11:24 PM

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I will take some time to examine the code and sprites xml

royal sigil Jan 20, 2024, 11:24 PM

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ok

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📎 Sprites.xml

hushed jackal Jan 20, 2024, 11:26 PM

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Please can you see if the same issue persists on collection of a goldberry?

royal sigil Jan 20, 2024, 11:26 PM

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sure

hushed jackal Jan 20, 2024, 11:26 PM

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To be more specific, this entity using the default goldberry sprite

royal sigil Jan 20, 2024, 11:26 PM

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k

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litteraly what i was just asking

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yep

hushed jackal Jan 20, 2024, 11:28 PM

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The same crash?

royal sigil Jan 20, 2024, 11:28 PM

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yep

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imma try default berry

hushed jackal Jan 20, 2024, 11:29 PM

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The entity is hardcoded to utilize the defined sprite's definition to pull a "fade" texture, those being the score in thousands

royal sigil Jan 20, 2024, 11:29 PM

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ye

hushed jackal Jan 20, 2024, 11:29 PM

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Basegame goldberries do not do this and instead utilize the sprite defined by regular berries

royal sigil Jan 20, 2024, 11:29 PM

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ah

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so copy that to the end?

hushed jackal Jan 20, 2024, 11:30 PM

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In order to make this entity function with a goldberry sprite, we will need to add textures ourselves. Please duplicate the winged goldberry textures into a custom path, say Graphics/Atlases/Gameplay/Collectables/Rolin/wingedgoldberry

royal sigil Jan 20, 2024, 11:30 PM

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but

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can i not just
`<goldberryflap path="collectables/goldberry/" start="flap">
<Center />

<Loop id="idle" path="idle" delay=".08" frames="0-5,0-5,0-5,0-5,0-7" />
<Anim id="collect" path="idle" delay=".07" frames="7-11"/>
<Loop id="flap" path="wings" delay=".08" frames="0-8,0-8,0-7,9" />

  
<Anim id="fade0" path="normal" delay=".08" frames="12-14,14*10,15-19"/>
<Anim id="fade1" path="normal" delay=".07" frames="20-22,22*10,23-26"/>
<Anim id="fade2" path="normal" delay=".07" frames="28-30,30*10,31-34"/>
<Anim id="fade3" path="normal" delay=".07" frames="36-38,38*10,39-42"/>
<Anim id="fade4" path="normal" delay=".07" frames="44-46,46*10,47-50"/>
  <Anim id="fade5" path="normal" delay=".07" frames="52,53,54,53,54,53,54,53,54,53,54,53,54-59"/>
  <Anim id="fade_wow" path="wow/normal" delay=".1" frames="52-66"/>

</goldberryflap>`

hushed jackal Jan 20, 2024, 11:31 PM

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Unfortunately, this attempts to look for frames in the goldberry subfolder that do not exist

royal sigil Jan 20, 2024, 11:31 PM

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oh

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ok

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got it

hushed jackal Jan 20, 2024, 11:32 PM

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We need to add textures to this subfolder to make this function, and for parity sake I recommend using a custom subfolder rather than altering anything that exists in vanilla

royal sigil Jan 20, 2024, 11:32 PM

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ye

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nope

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hmm

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1 sec

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how do I define it?

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collectables/goldberry/

hushed jackal Jan 20, 2024, 11:36 PM

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What are you attempting to define?

royal sigil Jan 20, 2024, 11:37 PM

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OH

hushed jackal Jan 20, 2024, 11:37 PM

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Ah, create a folder collectables/Rolin/wingedgoldberry

royal sigil Jan 20, 2024, 11:37 PM

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ye

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already did thet

hushed jackal Jan 20, 2024, 11:37 PM

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then place that in path :)

royal sigil Jan 20, 2024, 11:37 PM

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ye whoops

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🫨

hushed jackal Jan 20, 2024, 11:39 PM

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@white sluice Based on this thread, your Secret Berry entity could utilize a Winged and Divert to Strawberry for Fade Sprite checkbox. To clarify the latter checkbox, most vanilla berry texture paths lack fade sprites and while vanilla berries divert to the Strawberry folder textures, this berry currently does not

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Over to you ofc whether you want to implement these :) just a suggestion

royal sigil Jan 20, 2024, 11:41 PM

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fixed (:

hushed jackal Jan 20, 2024, 11:41 PM

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WOOOO

royal sigil Jan 20, 2024, 11:41 PM

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that was a struggle

hushed jackal Jan 20, 2024, 11:42 PM

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To be sure, please can you attempt to collect a standard berry prior to this berry? So they collect one directly after the other.

royal sigil Jan 20, 2024, 11:42 PM

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ye

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works

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but

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the berries collect at the same time

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doesnt matter for me, but still

hushed jackal Jan 20, 2024, 11:43 PM

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Please can you try 6 redberries before the goldberry aswell?

royal sigil Jan 20, 2024, 11:44 PM

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ye

hushed jackal Jan 20, 2024, 11:44 PM

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This is just testing the entity :) any issues we find here will need fixing in the helper

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Good thinking collecting 2 at once, I didn't consider that test

royal sigil Jan 20, 2024, 11:44 PM

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hushed jackal Jan 20, 2024, 11:45 PM

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Perfect, for your purposes this works without any issues

royal sigil Jan 20, 2024, 11:45 PM

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yep (:

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oh

hushed jackal Jan 20, 2024, 11:46 PM

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royal sigil

@white sluice this video also showcases a bug with the entity, 2 berries collecting simultaneously :)

royal sigil Jan 20, 2024, 11:46 PM

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also MADDIE should maybe try to find a way to make this show the actual sprite

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instead of moonberry

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but that is not very important

royal sigil Jan 21, 2024, 12:01 AM

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hushed jackal <@354341658352943115> this video also showcases a bug with the entity, 2 berries...

""""""""fun""""""""

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16x speed + savestates

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it actually is fun but the fact that you have to avoid the heart is awful

crimson crane May 29, 2024, 5:02 AM

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royal sigil How do I make it so theo will respawn in a room, but only if you bring him in

Hey did you figure out how to do this? I also want theo to only respawn once i got him from another room and i don’t really know what i’m doing with flags 😁

timid zodiac May 29, 2024, 5:30 AM

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crimson crane Hey did you figure out how to do this? I also want theo to only respawn once i g...

this person is banned

crimson crane May 29, 2024, 5:33 AM

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timid zodiac this person is banned

LMAO i was not expecting that

timid zodiac May 29, 2024, 5:33 AM

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look up their last messages before they got banned and you'll see rhe justification

crimson crane May 29, 2024, 5:33 AM

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uh oh

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eh i can't figure out how to find their message history, probably for the best lol

crimson crane May 29, 2024, 5:39 AM

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timid zodiac look up their last messages before they got banned and you'll see rhe justificat...

oh wait i found them that's a big yikes

timid zodiac May 29, 2024, 5:40 AM

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very big yikes

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they made up artificial issues to sound cool

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especially some random problem which never existed

timid zodiac May 29, 2024, 5:52 AM

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crimson crane Hey did you figure out how to do this? I also want theo to only respawn once i g...

in all seriousness can't you just not let the player progress unless they've gotten theo?

crimson crane May 29, 2024, 6:02 AM

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timid zodiac in all seriousness can't you just not let the player progress unless they've got...

no my issue is i want the map to be played one way without theo, then they get theo at the end and backtrack through the same rooms with theo which i would need theo respawns for, but i don't want the theo spawns to be active on the first pass if that makes sense

timid zodiac May 29, 2024, 6:09 AM

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nothing immediately comes to my head

ebon otter May 29, 2024, 6:13 AM

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A theo respawn that requires a flag to be set would work, but I don't know if it currently exists

crimson crane May 29, 2024, 6:57 AM

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ok i figured it out, on the first theo pickup i used a vanilla theo spawn and covered it with an everest flag trigger that i called 'theoget' and it triggers when you walk into it, then for the theo respawns in the other rooms, i used brokemia helper theo respawn which you can attach a flag to, so i gave them 'theoget' and now they only spawn theos after i get the first theo

#How to access winged golden