This happens to me and another person (both are on different Linux distributions)
When dying in any map, in extremely rare cases the screen will go black after the screen-wipe effect and the game will be unable to exit, but it still plays sound effects and music in the background until the process is killed.
The last time it happened, I fell into a pit in a Vanilla Contest 2023 map, and the other person ran into a spinner in 7C. This happens on all builds of Everest (including core), and happens in the same frequency regardless of how many mods are enabled (so it's guaranteed not an out of memory error). I'm thinking this is an issue with Max's Helping Hand or CelesteTAS, but there have been times where the game died without either of those enabled.
#Game sometimes stops drawing frames upon dying
coral magnet
discord won't show the full log
neonberries is never the cause of the freeze, and the mod worked perfectly fine along with vanilla contest 2023 (as far as I played)
coral magnet
I played vanilla a lot on linux about 2 years ago and never saw something like this happen once
near steeple
coral magnet
in fact it never happened on everest either, but I don't think I was using olympus
but now I am
near steeple
yeah having to narrow down such an issue is painful
coral magnet
update: it probably does happen more often with a bunch of mods loaded
I have fast texture loading disabled, and I completed a strawberry jam map in celestenet which caused it to happen
some other things that cause it are entering a lobby after enabling celestenet, or enabling celestenet and hyperline while in the lobby, and then entering a map
looks like the same helping hand issue, and I'm not sure if I can do anything about it
coral magnet
this time hyperline didn't crash everything, but I opened the debug map and tried to close it this time, which froze the game
near steeple
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keen folio
Not quite sure what might be causing this
Am on Linux myself and haven't encountered this at all
Tbf I didn't play a lot (=at all) recently, so a mod-caused issue is the most likely I would say
That or an exorcist
coral magnet
nothing happened this session
looks like I can't replicate this, and the opengl beta doesn't seem to affect anything
for some reason, the freezing has been happening extremely often for me, but not for the other person with a nearly identical setup to mine
we both run it through olympus but they're using the aur package and I'm using the tarball
bold pewter
maybe try with --graphics Vulkan?
coral magnet
I've been meaning to try that
bold pewter
idk if that would actually help in this case but I do experience variation in the amount of graphical garbage on vulkan vs not
coral magnet
not sure if this is related, but I got my first "oops" crash when opening celestenet for the first time today which had never happened before
this is absolutely caused by a mod but I'm not entirely sure how or why
I'm on amd64 gentoo and using gentoo-kernel-bin so it's not some funky customization garbage
coral magnet
every day, I only get more questions
when I have strawberry jam enabled, the game lag spikes whenever I die, and the lag spikes get longer the more I play until it freezes, even on vanilla maps (I thought it was the opengl beta causing this, but it wasn't)
and starting today, the game's window can't be captured with OBS and the audio is panned really far into my left ear
I reinstalled the game + everest core and the audio issue got fixed, but nothing else
here's what the lag spikes look like when loading stuff
near steeple
smells like an oom to me
but that'd be weird
well, not an oom
mb
i meant a memory leak maybe?
coral magnet
that seems like the most likely thing
the vanilla game is perfectly fine, and there's something about everest core that isn't the installation that's causing a problem
is there any way to debug this
near steeple
not that i know of other than monitoring the memory usage by the game
iirc there's a profiler for celeste but i don't think that'd be the tool here
@keen folio any ideas on how to debug a memory leak 
coral magnet
it says celeste is taking up 3.0gb of ram right now, which is probably normal for sj
near steeple
if it's just sj, i think it should be taking less?
near steeple
it says celeste is taking up 3.0gb of ram right now, which is probably normal fo...
are you inside a map or just idling in the main menu?
gonna try to check mine
coral magnet
in a map right now
coral magnet
it still says 3gb
even when in the menus
near steeple
i died a couple of times in forest path, it dropped to 1477MB
is the gc not gcing 
coral magnet
uh oh
it's only going up
near steeple
i would be concerned
WHAT
celeste just
became a green screen to me
what the fuck
coral magnet
I think the game is haunted
near steeple
i think it straight up just became 16x16 becayse it still thinks it lost exclusive fullscreen
@keen folio exclusive fullscreen is borked 
coral magnet
I only play in exclusive fullscreen because otherwise the game gets a very slight amount of input lag
is fullscreen known to be jank on everest core?
near steeple
this is the second time ever i've experienced this
last time was like >= 5 months ago
(11/16/2023 02:27:06) [Everest] [Verbose] [discord-game-sdk] Changing activity: state='0 berries | 0 deaths', details='Playing Beginner Lobby | Room sj2021beginnerlobby', image='https://celestemodupdater.0x0a.de/rich-presence-icons/38b2030572ea0b34.png', text='Strawberry Jam Collab | Chapter 1 - Beginner Lobby', timestamp='1700098025'
(11/16/2023 02:27:06) [Everest] [Verbose] [discord-game-sdk] Presence changed successfully!
Lost exclusive fullscreen state, switching back to windowed until focus is regained
Regained focus, attempting to reclaim exclusive fullscreen state
Entered exclusive fullscreen
(11/16/2023 02:28:53) [Everest] [Verbose] [LoadLevel] Loading room sj2021beginnerlobby of StrawberryJam2021/0-Lobbies/1-Beginner
(11/16/2023 02:28:53) [Everest] [Verbose] [ExtendedVariantMode/ExtendedVariantTriggerManager] Room state reset
(11/16/2023 02:28:53) [Everest] [Verbose] [ExtendedVariantMode/ExtendedVariantTriggerManager] Room state reset
(11/16/2023 02:28:53) [Everest] [Verbose] [discord-game-sdk] Changing activity: state='0 berries | 1 death', details='Playing Beginner Lobby | Room sj2021beginnerlobby', image='https://celestemodupdater.0x0a.de/rich-presence-icons/38b2030572ea0b34.png', text='Strawberry Jam Collab | Chapter 1 - Beginner Lobby', timestamp='1700098025'
(11/16/2023 02:28:53) [Everest] [Verbose] [discord-game-sdk] Presence changed successfully!
(11/16/2023 02:28:55) [Everest] [Verbose] [LoadLevel] Loading room sj2021beginnerlobby of StrawberryJam2021/0-Lobbies/1-Beginner
in case you need the log
everest is in exclusive fullscreen but 16x16 and refuses to exit it
...is it even 16x16???
it might be 4x4
i can still move around and do things as normal
but it's stuck like this
coral magnet
that's weird
when my game dies, I can't input but the game still runs
this looks like a different case
I ended up disabling discord rich presence because it drastically increased the chance of the game locking up
coral magnet
that looks like 4x4
I'd say this is worthy of a detailed bug report
what a confusing random occurrence
coral magnet
opened the game again and played a different strawberry jam map
the game started at 2.6g, I got the silver for forest path and if my "driveway" almost did you in, and it's at 2.7g now
same cpu usage as always
near steeple
interesting
keen folio
keen folio
wait i managed to reproduce it??
How?