#general-feedback-discussion
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Carno's head in that animation is stock still
it really isnt
I mean I guess most carnos have more stiff necks but not a big deal?
Not sure why this is the convo now tbh
my issues with the run anims are tail floppiness, general posture, head bobbing and stride length
This is the most exaggerated curve in the entire animation. I fail to see how this is so immersion breaking for you
if they fixed the first 3 i'd be fine with stride length
it doesnt break immersion it just looks really bad lmao
I didnt even notice until it was pointed out
Stride length is the same as legacy, it just does it in a more dinosaurian way than a humanoid way. General posture is a you thing. Head bobbing might be as well? You seem to want a stabilized head, but fail to understand that the head bobbing is how the head gets stabilized. And I'll agree on the tail being much too floppy.
Now I'm curious to see how it'd look with a straighter neck there
Has anyone made a side by side comparison of the runs?
Now I'm curious to see how it'd look with a straighter neck there
@lament kayak
looks a lot better
No, just diagonal and side comparisons, narwhal
also i had a side by side, idk where i put it though
Got any pics on you?
How is the legacy animation more humanoid??
@coarse torrent More motion in the thighs only, minimal motion in the knees
Old carno practically does the splits with every step in the old anim
Of course you have to discount legacy carno having moon gravity, but it's much more femur-centered than theropods were considered to be
didnt carno take really long strides though
For a dinosaur
yes
It didn't do the split
the new run isnt even the most it can do then
I'm not sure carno's hips even had that sort of flexibility?
They aren't super flexible animals
considering its strides could go longer, im sure they can work with it
like iirc its legs could go out further then they do here
we can just not make an 1800kg theropod move like a 40kg bird lol
that too
we can just not make an 1800kg theropod move like a 40kg bird lol
@unborn quail Would you prefer it run on the moon?
we can just not make an 1800kg theropod move like a 40kg bird lol
You can but, it wont look like a 1800kg theropod when it's moving.
I'm curious, does anyone have some papers on carnotaurus femur flexibility?
Try Google Scholar Herp.
I'd prefer it to actually move like a heavy animal with a stiff tail over half of its length giving it balance
The have some good peered review articles.
The animations seem to ignore the latter and make the tail look like a wet noodle waving in the wind
Lol, it does look like a wet pool noodle.
That run has good basic motions
so yeah the legs could go out more
That old stiff tail 😔 I miss it
oh yeah so moon like
My biggest complaints are the tail and the head
Prefer a more level out posture for its head rather than sticking up like a sore thumb
old animation was fine
I never said that's what the animation should be changed to in my suggestion.. it was just a simulation of weight.
The legs themselves are also up for argument
new animations like allosaurus actually looks like its using its stride to push itself off the ground
Carno looks like its doing the basic motions of a brisk jog
I can't find anything on dinosaur leg angles
We don't have the animals leg unfortunately
We do know it couldn't rotate more than 90 degrees out of its socket
(connection with the hip)
I do still think that legacy's run has the femurs move way too much, but I'm unsure
Femur yes, most of the aditional stride would be acomplished with the tibia and fibula
Though the femur should be able to move further back
in the legacy run it moved far to forward, but in the Evrima run its not moving nearly as far back as it would be able to
I do still think that it looks fine beyond the bendy spine. I agree that the back kick could be extended more, but that doesn't mean legacy's anim was great either
kick
Animal was literally using its back legs to propel itself forward, hell a small segment of air time isn't unwarranted
pk's carno also leaning in more, maybe if our carno leaned in more it would help?
it would
Allosaurus handles the proper stride length best out of the new animations
the trot is disgusting
what about the sprint
I hate how you can see the leg snapping back
what if it just slaps the ground and starts running like a gorilla
and maybe magy's interms of weight
oh god it moves like an emu
Referring to gorilla vs mirror
The fucking head bob
looks like a more brisk legacy sprint animation lol

Point is, they need to really stop the emu bull shit, Birds are fine for reference, but these animals wont move 100% the same, bipedal flightless birds lack a certain thing there older theropod cousins have
Size, a tail over half their length full of stiff bony rods, and immense weight
now for a moment of silence for Bryan's roasted animations in the feedback 
not saying the feedback isn't valid, I actually agree, but afleihfewukgfdsjh poor Bryan
it does seem a little off that for about a slip second both of spinos legs are off the ground

my spino boi needs love, but that'll only happen when they come back to it
which will be a long time
I'm also just deadass serious it doesn't hold up to the rest of the cast
But nvm that
Nova's point on how they're so light is way too true
has any dev mentioned the possibility of hiring Gabriel?
no
nah
No.
No.
I like some of his stuff tho
Some of his projects look really good.
Although 90% sure the tails are too wavy
other than that, it looks pretty aight
oh hey they did change the sitting animation tho
ew wheat used the term "lit"
not all of the animations are from bryan. I thought his were mostly the red looking background with the trees.
Wasn't joewatts the guy that tried to say gravity wasn't real like 3 years ago? 🤔
That was an interesting VC
I mean he's not wrong about it needing to be stiffer, but.
Stiffer, yes.
ahem
But if I wanted an example how stiff it should be.
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nice lul
you numbskull
@twin burrow tell him that the second line is absolute nonsense, and the fifth.
AND NOBODY SAW NUTHIN
but stunlocking isnt very fun
Well uh
like, logically it makes sense to stumble easier if youre knocked off balance but that makes an unfun experience 99% of the time
carno's also a small game hunter, so giving it an ability that would really work against larger critters is odd
If it requires a group to even inflict such an ability, its not that big of a deal
more animals require more food
Ya it does make sense
It makes sense for varying degrees of a stumble depending on how many times your rammed into
Plus it has to be coordinated correctly, if a carno in the group hits the other side of the animal in question it messes the whole thing up.
the cooldown would prevent a single carno from stunlocking anyway
if you wanted a bit more info on it
things don't necessarily need to bleed super hard always
Bleed system still needs polishing. It is it's first iteration so it will defiantly change over time.
I doubt they had the carno bled out in that spot, they just killed it
seeing as most of the blood comes out when you're bleeding, I imagine it would impact the amount of visible blood
Mind the poor quality and watermark but I'm just gonna have this up for use whenever talking about Carno's tail stiffness
lol makeagif
Carnos weren't meant to make tight turns. They were built for short, fast bursts, which means they're going to use that speed to run in a straight line, and use its neck muscles to bring down prey. Carno in Legacy was far more accurate than the interpretation they're currently attempting to create.
"Carnotaurus tail vertebrae and realized that the upward-facing transverse processes would have made lots of room for the caudofemoralis muscle (Persons & Currie, 2011). This muscle ran along the lower sides of the tail of dinosaurs and pulled the femur backwards when contracted, providing most of the walking power. With all this room at the bottom of the tail, the cadofemoralis of Carnotaurus was greatly enlarged. This made the tail extremely round and thick, especially near the base, and provided a substantial amount of power for moving the legs (keep this in mind when drawing dinosaurs- many types, not just Carnotaurus, had very thick tails, especially near the base). This would have resulted in Carnotaurus being very fast, but not terribly agile."
The TL;DR version from YDAW is that Carno traded maneuverability for raw acceleration
His quote was an analogy for RPG
@hushed shadow If they make it easier to locate the sound, I don't think implementing a deaf aid is an advantage for those trying to use it as a gimmick or something, and I agree they should also add a color blind mode, all of that would make more people want buy the game, right? (and I'm sorry if I have grammar mistakes, im using google translate xD)
yeah thats why i said i dont know how thatd work hahah, i didnt suggest to implement a system for deaf or HoH
i really do wish they implement a system for color blind people though, since im pretty sure the particles when smelling are yellow and blue, which is the next most common color deficiency after red-green
plus food bushes often tend to have red berries so i have a hard time finding them or just walk right by them
Yes, a color blind mode should be implemented, I don't think it's that difficult to do, and I don't distinguish edible bushes by the fruits, I distinguish them by the shape xD
yeah i should really start trying that too, ive not played in quite a bit
Same thing to Bilbo as to hacker. We don't know how that carno died; the intent is to show off the death effects. We have no reason to assume that this is the result of the carno bleeding out until it died.
@barren zephyr
Did you read completely what i wrote?
Yes, I fail to see how it counters my point
I don’t know how did that carno die but if it died to another predator or got impaled by a stego, the floor would be flooded by liters and liters AND LITERS of blood.
Not only do we not know that, but even if it was you don't know that the carno stayed in that exact spot and died there to bleed
We also don't know how fresh the body is, to my knowledge
For all we know, right out of frame is a long trail of blood leading to this old ass carno corpse
I already covered that implication
yeah if the carno died from blunt force trauma, like a teno tail, it makes sense there wouldnt be much blood, if any at all
but if it died from say, a stego tail you'd expect to see a lot of blood
The mountain is also a landmark, but yes I agree too few landmarks
Honestly, I love the Isle but I'm looking forward to a much more bloody gore, not just your ordinary all-around bleeding cuts but don't get me wrong, I still do love the game, keep up the good work lads.
https://cdnb.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/012/006/703/original/gabriel-casamasso-running.gif?1532537668 The carno should have more weight to its animation like this
That carno does have more recoil, longer strides and a better head posture, but it's still missing some more hip movement
For me the tail could be stiffer - sounds weird though
The overall animation could be faster too, but it does do some things right
why don't people want ambush back?
Cause legacy ambush stinks
how so?
Gives a cheap, free speedboost. People are okay with an acceleration boost, but not a speed boost
oh I see
but imo the idea of keeping ambush, but improved should be kept
maybe a shorter boost
Ambush can return, just in a similar style like bb, basically getting completely reworked and not affecting speed anymore
I don't think ambush affecting speed was really a problem. the problem is more like how it got implemented, atleast for me 
they could do a smaller stamina bar that will give you a speed bost
and its up to you to decide how, when and if use it
So could the people that reacted explain why they dont like the suggestion? lol
that doesnt have to do with biting forward tho?
Also standing still it should turn perfectly fine, just not when walking or running
Any positive/negative thoughts about my grouping suggestion?
Allowing steam friends to group from anywhere is a nice addition imo. It's neat way to meet up with friends
so rn people just kinda deny my suggestion without a real reason lol
I don't know, it seems a bit strange for carno to have an alt-bite like utah. Even if it couldn't turn as far, it seems kinda pointless and carno isn't really meant to be fighting while standing still a lot
yeah but it could still be implemented, doesnt mean you have to use it
also they will probably have to rework the whole animation so why not keep the other one for the case that you stand still once
Eh, I just don't see carno being able to turn that much in place, maybe 45 degrees with that alt-bite at max, but at that point it's hardly different from the regular one. I'm all for multiple attacks that can help in combat, I just feel like this attack would be hardly used. And either way, this current animation would still need to be tweaked, at least a little bit. Looks like carno is going to fall over with that bite
welp guess not then, sad for the animation, seems like theres much work put in it
Does no one like my suggestion? It doesn’t get any reactions
shant probably wont get re-added, atleast not in the near future
para was meant to be the new big stronk hadro
I like the being able to aim your stomp suggestion, but I'm not sure about the back stomp. Maybe a quick kick instead?
yeah would make more sense, dont think any carni will run under the legs of a stomping dino
Lol I already got one heheh
I don’t think para will be strong enough to take down most things
dont think so either but the devs said shant probs wont come
Shant will come, it was mentioned in one of the devblogs.
I’ve seen it in a devblog that kissen once said they were going to work on several legacy creatures, one of those where the Shant. I’ve also heard all legacy dinos will be re added expect for puetra
Exactly
Didnt they say they dont want to include the shant?
Different developers probably think different things. As of right now, it seems like Shant is back considering it was mentioned in a devlog.
they gotta decide lol
They did.
It's mentioned in the dev log, I'm just saying that might be an explanation on why you specifically might have heard different things. But Shant is still coming.
yeah already looked at it
Consider all dinosaur she mentioned have already got their concept. It could mean shant may get one soon.
shant probably wont get re-added, atleast not in the near future
@edgy hamlet Shant got confirmed for a remake in the first devlog
Oh it’s already posted
I’m on mobile
So am I lol
for clarification the
that i gave to @fringe orchid was for the carno bite animation being good.
The skins=perks is a really bad idea in my opinion. If I want to go for a tankyer build for the deino for example, I really don't want to look terrible just because
Iirc the perks aren't supposed to affect your base stats, at least a good portion of the community doesn't want perks to affect base stats. Perks should be more quality of life improvements
plus like, im gonna have specific ways i want my skins to look. and i dont want the perks i want to end up being colours i find ugly that affect that
yeah perks affecting base stats would make the game unfair for people that are just starting out vs veterans that have grown and died thousands of times
plus makes balance an absolute nightmare
that too
Unlockable skin patterns are fine, but perks or your skin changing through gameplay? Ew.
like. if you have weak but fast dinos, creatures stronger than them perking speed enough to catch up would make it a nightmare
i dont think perks should really affect appearance at all, unless they're specifically cosmetic perks
i dont think perks should really affect appearance at all, unless they're specifically cosmetic perks
agreed
this issue always comes up in games
you want to look good but cant because you'll have to be weaker or use a playstyle you dont like
cosmetics and perks/upgrades should always be separate imo
totally agree too. i dont want to look a way i dont like because i want certain perks. it sucks. same with feather vs no-feathers. i much prefer JP style dinos, but i know a lot of people dont
and dear god please dont force me to use green. i hate using green in skins D: but seeing as I main herbivores im sure if this mechanic was a thing, a lot of herbie perks would be tied to green colours
Depends what you mean by JP style dinos
I would rather see that utah model as a alt skin or something. (Pain's suggestion)
Because to a point. Jurassic Park actually cared about relative accuracy.
Jurassic World did not
When I mean relative, I mean vaguely looking enough like the animal itself so it's not pointless to call it "X" animal
Even tho it's not perfect
The thing with most of The Isle's designs, they do a decent job with this.
Then you get a couple stinkers like Utah.
Let's be honest, not everyone will be happy with dino designs, even if you try your hardest to be accurate, people will always have issues with it.
That's no room for not trying. But yes, there will be people that nitpick not just from an anatomical standpoint but even just design wise.
Like, fuck. Hypsilophodon is one of my favorite designs but I know that thing is not what it looked liked.
Yeah, it's interesting. But i mean we can only really guess on most dino's as a lot of things (cartilage, some horns, feathers, fibrous hair, etc.) don't show in fossils.
Oh yeah, go ham with integument stuff.
Let's be honest, not everyone will be happy with dino designs, even if you try your hardest to be accurate, people will always have issues with it.
That's fair. Everybody has their own opinion. I just really dislike how unoriginal the design is.
Mmmm^^
I should also address the fact that scaly raptors aren't really the most creative thing anymore
There's uhh a popular movie franchise that beats this trope to death to the point where I get sick of seeing it.
lol ik how you feel on that Wheat
But i do think it's interesting seeing the different ideas of what dinos looked like.
Ooo yes. I'm very much open to speculative designs.
Austro's new concept of webbed feet is both a reasonable assumption but also distinct at the same time from other designs.
idk if i like austro's webbed feet tbh
And by other designs I mainly mean TSL and Fred's drawings of austro
ah
I'm not actually sure if it did swim actively or just hung around shallow waters but I wouldn't be surprised if it did have then. Other members of the family definitely did. So that's a neat addition.
i mean...it's not swimming like a duck and has long enough legs it wouldn't need to swim much and if it did. it's so streamlined it would have no issues charging into the water and diving a short distance
At that point, it'll be for QA to decide how it should play. Which I'm interested in seeing in the distant future.
But, fuck. I got side tracked from that one suggestion. The thing is, as much as I want remodels. that shit cost money.
A ton of it
It's why we immediately give our thoughts to the concept in feedback before it's been modeled.
It's nice to know Punch said the devs do comment on the fan-edits. I hope they also take it into consideration.
Yeah, you'd be surprised the amount of feedback we take into consideration.
Though we may not comment, we all read the feedback and ideas people propose.
Why is the new Austroraptor design misproportioned in comparison to skeletals of the animal
Well tbh it is somewhat fragmentary
No idea. I think they referenced it off of a kingfisher?
Yeah you're right
dumb noodle neck long beak birds
but they need to stop using real life animals as references.
Still, it does have close relatives for comparison
when why I say most of them
Bad proportions 😔
Buitreraptor is a Unenlagine, so you can infer some things from it
Though the proportions are slightly different
Either way isn't skeletal accuracy a goal for the models?
sometimes their models, it follows it nearly 100% perfectly
After spino they stoped caring at all
Not true, look at Minmi
@lusty wedge Scarring and visible wounds would be cool, but the devs already said no to mesh deformation and scars because it can cause lag if the server has to keep track of 50+ players' scars and wounds
Aw man, it woild be really cool tho
that's why we're getting smaller anky
but for carnis
they need to be awesomebro
because uh
idk
@still needle great idea, actually. I can see magy getting bullied a lot if they follow through with what's currently planned, so that's actually a great idea
Yeah i just thought an after death defense would be bad and needed something more
I think thats the best idea that has been put up for magy yet.
magy fundamentally is a poor choice as a survival dino and I'm one of the few people who will play it when it comes out and i think i might like it. but there are so many flaws in magy's plans like after death defense is stupid plus cerato will just eat it anyway since cerato can eat anything. like magy cannot fight anything bigger than a cera. and i cant see it running from a rex with ambush. and when people say we want a suropod we want things like legacy cama or brachi. not magy. but who knows maybe magy will be really good or something.
Gore suggestion was good except for the "punish animals for being around a corpse" part
@finite dragon Punchpacket #TeamFoszor Today at 5:56 AM
by update the roadmap I changed Update 6 to "Improved Day/Night Cycle + Night Vision". Basically you're getting a Day/Night cycle in Update 2, no night vision however. But it'll be bright enough to see.
np
Yea i was surprised by that too. You miss things when you sleep.
@willow zealot if anything, that would probably come update 5, with the gore system and all
True
@patent bramble That wouldn't really work with the game's lore iirc. The current plan is to have the dino drop out of the sky in a cage with parachutes when you spawn in and you can hit the sides of the cage to make it drift in different directions. That idea could work with hatching eggs tho
Oh really? I had no idea about that
Yeah it's a plan they've had for a few years now at least. It'll allow you to actually kinda control where you spawn
@primal falcon Post comments about people's feedbacks in here.
What Alpha said
well if they want to do that then a nest animation could be great
Spawning in a free falling cage was always a neat idea.
i think that could be interesting to see, now just wait to they do nice animations for that, and for all the things
The reason why it's dark is because of the trees casting the shade.
Well sure but it's not supposed to be so dark...?
You don't see anything around you yet the sun is already quite high in the sky 
I mean if you guys prefer being in the void in the morning that's fine but it's a suggestion
@versed zodiac also I think we understood you didn't like the suggestion, no need to use all the emotes you have to show it 
i can if i want.
Sure 
It's not a bad suggestion I think it's just the overall map is very foresty and mountainy, so it makes sense for it to be that dark. Keeping in mind the devs already said the new lighting engine is not yet finished within evrima and is subject to improve.
I get what you mean, but the contrast between light and dark, in sunsets specifically, are pretty accurate, ngl
It's not a bad suggestion I think it's just the overall map is very foresty and mountainy, so it makes sense for it to be that dark. Keeping in mind the devs already said the new lighting engine is not yet finished within evrima and is subject to improve.
@edgy harbor Lmao, pretty much the same thing yea
Yeah idk I feel like for the game it would be best overall to see better
Like really it feels like the floor is a void
Well I didn't expect the suggestion to be disliked so much lmao
I understand, maybe the shadows are a bit too dark, but it is in qa right now and filipe did say it's being worked on.
Yeah that was just the point, suggesting the change
- everything is getting tweeked to be brighter for the lack of nv
Well
Maybe not after all if ppl like them so much
the black hole floor is not too bad 
lol there's a reason we keep all suggestions, some downvoted ones or less popular ones become popular later on
dont feel too bad
Yea, you just have to wait.
yeah i think those edits ar a bit too extreme but it does need to be brighter
i get that sunset is like that irl in a way, bright sky and dark ground but its pretty extreme in those screenshots. literally a black void
its not good for your eyesight either, the extreme contrast is pretty bad, in particular if you have existing eye problems
Because it was just mass dislike so I guess I was wrong and that's it
So, just because a certain amount of people dislike something you like doesn't mean you should delete it.
Yeah I know, it's just that at some point I was like "OK I get it, bad idea, let's move on" lmao
It could've been a short group of people, I know some start out with X but overall get more reactions of those who agree ✅
i think it just may have been the edit that threw people off. personally thats why i didnt support it. i think plenty of people agree with the general idea that it does need to be a little lighter
Well we'll never know I guess lmao
And yeah maybe I fucked the edit
It's just that I take landscape photography as an hobby sometimes and I tried to take a picture as a reference
It looked okayish to me
i think sunset/dusk/etc should still be dark because irl that is what its like. the bright sky causes a lot of contrast and can make the ground a little hard to see. but i think they've leaned a little too hard into it so far
at least its WIP, hopefully the final product is a little lighter
Yeah I just feel like the contrast isn't actually that big unless you use a camera and the camera focus on the sun and thus lose detail of the environment
While vaulting and climbing is nice and all
You shouldn’t be able to vault over obstacles that are larger than knee height.
If you run into a fallen tree and you get stuck on it, that’s on you.
It makes for some really big brain plays when you and the boys lead a group of X animal into a fallen log that they’re not looking for and be able to make a getaway.
Thats always true
A good compromise would be to design those obstacles in such a way that they’re not constantly covered in something.
Currently the way biomes/foliage is generated is relatively “procedural” which leads into getting logged without you even being able to KNOW to avoid it which is unfair.
In terms of gameplay I prefer less punishing more intuitive forms of .. well.. player punishment. Look as assassins' creed for example. It's an entirely 100% stealth and mobility based game. It would make a lot of sense to punish a player for running into a barrel or wall. But you don't. Because it benefits gameplay, and is less frustrating to use.
In this case I want to say it's more beneficial to have a system as such in place. And instead of punishing a player for running into a chest height rock, punish them for deciding to run with bleed, or run into an ambush, ect.
However like you said, a compromise may be in order. Depending on how it actually plays out in game, not on paper.
The smoother motion of teno would be kinda cool though, I feel like at least a teno should be able to hop over a small tree trunk if you are at sprinting speed instead of doing that weird horse buck where it throws its shoulders in the air and points its head down
Somewhat agree somewhat don’t. I’d really love to be able to test something like this with assassins creed style “chase breaker” pieces of foliage.
For awhile now I’ve suggested having certain trees or roots that allow smaller players to run through them instead of around while larger things have gotta do the latter.
^ If that map was built around that, that would be sooooo cool.
I agree
^
@spice patio I really agree with you, I would like having rare skin and when I hatch babies some of them can have rare skins and that would be really cool.
yeah, I'd find it really interesting
Like a genetics system
@glad dirge i agree
very interesting 
@glad dirge Yes! Juvies need able to survive to be independent or get adopted but anyhow, rocks or cliffs should let juvies escape from danger to make it easier.
Just something to avoid instant death on sight which happens a lot! BAHAa
i think rather than juvies sort of staying perched on the cliff, it should act more like a ladder for juvies to get a quick escape. if you just stand around, considering the chance of falling the adults can probably just wait you out. But if it's used more of a way to get from one area to another, it gives juvies a way of escaping
but otherwise, love it! Juvies do need more help imo. the fact they're a lot faster than the travesty that is legacy juvies helps, but it's still a rough life for them
@proven lagoon You need to give more feedback than "devs bad lol" Also this is obvious flamebaiting. Please don't post feedback unless it's constructive.
@lunar apex What server?
I don't think Gar can help you with that issue. It's not an official server.
but the Admins can do nothing vs he2
It'll be addressed next update.
Did he by chance go by the name "UT"
so then better dont play more evrima befor the update come? it not nice but ok when this the only way then is it so. than it makes no fun ever to die all 2h from a hacker
We also can't help unofficial servers.
Yes, you will have to wait till update 2, which won't be that long judging the roadmap.
I mean Teutonic admins should be very capable of banning them, too.
yeah but he is not stupid he come ever when no one online. but we need more protetection on all server from hacker! any evrima play not mutch and in the next day even less really frustrate. and not good for reputation from the game.
and that would be a real shame if everyone stopped playing it completely because they were dying
Not sure why the lighting suggestion got mega downvoted.
Irl the ground is light long before the sun is up
In the isle it’s frustrating when the sun is rising but the ground is still a black hole void
Which suggestion was it?
It got deleted sadly
As it got tons of downvotes
Was basically asking for the ground to stay light for a bit before the sun is up and after it’s set. To make it more realistic
Jumping in, I was the one who made the suggestion and I can show you some comparison if you're curious
I don't see what's wrong with that suggestion, sad that it got deleted
That looks great
That was that basically but yeh I deleted it because it was just 30 dislikes for 1 like and emotes like
and
being spammed
So I was annoyed
Did anyone give feedback on why they didn't like it?
@charred nova the bit about roots in the suggestion does make sense, since Orodromeus was a burrowing animal irl.
Strange. Imo the lighting could definitely be a bit brighter, maybe not as bright as the fist comparison, but still. And especially if we won't have night vision for a while
I mean it kinda is bright like that when the sun is that visible
Even with trees, the sun is sending light rays that bounce off the floor
gab would probs look better if you cut the picture in two and brightened the terrain but not the sky
Giving shadows some colors
Also wow this community has changed.
If you posted mating 5 call suggestions in 2018 you would be hit with 50+ downvotes within a couple of hours.
Now it's upvoted and popular.
Both broadcast and friendly calls can work as mating calls, don't really see a need for a 5th call
Mhm. Lot of unnecessary work to add it and its forms to every playable
It is unnecessary to add skins to certain dinosaurs at this time. The skin system isn't even a major core mechanic like bleed, fishing, venom, nv, etc.
when they'll add emotes 'n stuff there could be a "mating dance" emote, but i think that'd be already much
a new call is redundant
I dont particularly like the custom skins feature, I'd much prefer different patterns
mating suggestions being taken seriously, what happened to this discord 
Mating suggestions

A few months ago, when someone would dare to make any kind of mating suggestions it would be hated by everyone unconditionally 
i think its moreso because its just a call not ya know... the actual action but still yeah
any suggestion involving mating cringe
But my erp!1!!1
in 2018 a mating 5 call suggestion would get ripped to shreds.
Oh god.
I mean if they want to slightly modify the calls so you can tell which one is female and which one is male, why not
it's just
"mating call"


sounds like horny Dinosaurs to me
Before you edited that.
Sounds horny
Die
@rare axle The reason for the darkness is because it was early morning and the lighting was important for that 'ambush to water' feel
yeaaah I get that early morning thing, but I can compare a few pictures from where the sun is even lower than that in real life and yet you can clearly see more details around you
At the end of the day i'm not saying these screens look bad or anything but
well my personal preference would be to enjoy day light for a longer period of time, and I think it's a better experience overall
i didn't want the image to be washed out and lack of depth. the issue with brightening the image on it's own is it washes out the brights and 'greys' the darks.
oh yeah no i'm not talking about the images themselves
Ah okay, i see where you're coming from
I just wish the game would have more exposure or that the light would be more intense
@toxic mantle comments on peoples feedback should go in here.
Punch is pingable, but I don't think that this is the right time to ping him. Besides, they said that they already read through feedback
Punch is probably sleeping rn.
did my guy really put "all of the above" on my poll feedback?
yeah people were talking about changing it
and beipi is still technically in it but they arent sure if they have the time
yeah people were talking about changing it
what?????
some guys said in isle discussion and now in feedback someone said that they wanna replace the ptera with beip
Whoever said that is most definitely wrong.
I dunno, ptera seems unchallanged, it can't hunt and can't be hunted
Well, it's not meant to be challenged.
Outside of when landed, it doesn't have any predators, it can't hunt.
It can probably fish, and occasionally scavenge (though risky)
@vagrant lagoon Don't tag Punch for feedback/suggestions.
@loud crow Please avoid tagging Punch in feedback channels.
I feel like the fisher update would be better off as an aquatic update in general
Deino, a proper fisher, and Bepi would work the best
Ptera just kinda lives in his own world and happens to be able to eat fish
Are mercenaries a good idea for the game?
That's a question, not Feedback.
@edgy harbor kk
Thank you
dang lots of questions
mating calls 🗿
That's a question not feedback.
lmao
Idk I really like the idea of picking up your prey and then once you catch it shaking the screen with your mouse to snap its neck
@pallid acorn that isn't feedback
@glossy matrix I thought there were lots of people who were trying to get aquatic rather than Jp style?
I'll definitely take it somewhere else if not, but I said that to kinda...bring another point for Jp style as opposed to aquatic
^
i think
A statement.
they should edit the model
and make it a little more accurate
but still jp style
make the legs slightly shorter and give the tail a paddle
they should edit the model
@glossy matrix Oh yeah, a balance between Jp and real, but having a full-on aquatic spino might be trouble for the game
Is it still just statement-y? What can I say to make it sound like actual feedback?
don't we already have rainforest/jungles?
@lime gulch not really what we have are more dried up jungles I'm thinking rainforest areas that are striking not all the same color.
I can see where you are coming from. But we also have never had rain cycles. So who knows how it will look once it starts to rain and saturates the earth/makes all of the leaves wet. It could give off the vibe of rainforest like you are thinking of
I can see where you are coming from. But we also have never had rain cycles. So who knows how it will look once it starts to rain and saturates the earth/makes all of the leaves wet. It could give off the vibe of rainforest like you are thinking of
@lime gulch fair enough however im thinking more south American rainforests with thick canopies.
@versed zodiac I like your ideas about bioms. I also really like that you mention Magy being a good savannah creature because of the lower tree vegetation that grows there. Also for some reason I feel like magy is like a zebra, which is a savannah creature as well😁
@versed zodiac I like your ideas about bioms. I also really like that you mention Magy being a good savannah creature because of the lower tree vegetation that grows there. Also for some reason I feel like magy is like a zebra, which is a savannah creature as well😁
@maiden anvil thx honestly i see Maggy as a giraffe niche like i think it would only belong in the savanna or maybe the gumtree forests. also it would be cool for carno to live in the savanna as i feel that would be the perfect hunting grounds for it
so uh what do you guys think of gojirasurus
I think carno would do amazing in deserts 😄
it was a relative of dilo
Not necessary
I’m sorry
plus the isle kinda needs more less known dinos
How?
I mean
more less known dinos=more people knowing about a dino they never knew
I had no idea about magy before the isle
gojira = godzilla ? confirmed
gojirasaurus was almost as big as dilo
lel
Sorry pal but I think more famous dinos attracts more people to play
Those who want to succeed
lol me either
f**k rex
lol
maggy best
so is the day/night cycle being added to this update? or are they just showing off what they have so far?
yes. its bieng added this update
yes what
gojirasaurs should be added :>
okay but what sets gojira apart from dilo or utah?
simple
was gojirasaurs a piscovore
its more of Herrera but if herrera could fight utah and dilo kinda
its a triassic dino
so uh yea
Some sorry @tight oxide I don’t wanna be rude but G-saurus it’s a highly unnecessary pick. We already have more then enough 2 tier carnivores coming and there nothing unique about apart from its name.
for real its not in any dino game beside dinosaur king
We don't need anymore creatures. We have 50+. It is already hard to fill certain animals with certain niches.
Alpha is right
We already have a Croc (aka Deino)
Kapro
Kaprosuchus?
YES
Kapro is useless. (Come at me Eye).
it cant be that bad of a choice
It's super small
Actually no
ik
I think kapro could be a good playable
croc fighting small dinos or babies lel
Fast on land and in water
Plus we get a quad predator that runs like a wolf
wasnt kaprosuchus big as a human?
Megalania is essentially your "land-gator"
No I think it also could ha good stam
Oh yea we are getting Mega
maybe weak bite
I still don't like Megalania.
megalania is already apart of the roster
Forgot about it
Why don’t u like megalania?
Was talking to aplha
kapro is worse presto
it will most likely have some form of venom because of its disposition to that of a komodo dragon
maybe
kapro
I just don't like most Cenozoic animals compared to Paleozoic and Mesozoic animals.
I only like them as long as they aren’t mammals
its basically a modern crocodile if not smaller whats the point if deino is just going to eat them all.
I think it’s cool to have more then just dinosaurs to play as
Could Kapro be AI then?
Everything is related.
ima do research to find a bigger relative of kapro
That’s true
archosaurs droop snoot
You just get smaller versions of Deino and Presto's cousins.
what about this guy
a
let me fix that
there
that guy
nah
it kinda small to...
pw 
Prehistoric wildlife has super inaccurate size comparisons.
I’ve been wanting to do a suggestion about modern animals being small AI. Almost like a mini fauna. Though, instead of using modern gators, kapro AI could be neat
And that’s a good thing
Idk pal
cus deino will be giant and fat on land lol
I think kapro would be good AI. It’s hard to hunt on land and in water. If we had gator AI it would be easy to hunt them on land cause they slow
Maha-what?
Never heard but sounds cool
We don't need smaller versions of Deino.
Why not alpha
if they can add small utahs who cimb then why not small deinos
I do understand. At this point the argument is "It looks cool, so we must add it."
I’m not about that. Not at all
and ok in water
I haven't heard you guys provide a unique niche for these animals.
Then I will
Mahajangasuchus/kapro were fast on land and ok in water and could be good for hunting stuff its size
and even maybe fighting herrera
Having a small crocodile AI would be good food source for semi aquatic animals and they can eat carcasses next to water
Nah
dragon flies
Mhajangasuchus, there is no point for it.
@tight oxide yknow why nobody talks about it
because
it's a shitty, dubious genus
with a trash name
If you can provide a unique niche for kapro and put it in feedback, then I'll think about it.
Don’t see why it has to be added but I don’t se why it wouldn’t
wow
Alright
just wow
it wouldn't because it's dubious
troodon is an exception
thanks
@tight oxide Gojirasaurus is probably just an oversized Coelophysis
now hear me out... Beezlebufo... for swamps. maybe it could be a food source for the swamp dinos
Well still it's just a worse dilo
As particle effects, sure.
Beelzebufo
Hmmm sounds interesting
it's a very close relative of these fatasses (horned frogs)
Also called pacman frogs cos they've got big mouths
But we don't need everything extinct in this game when it comes to environmental scenery. We can have normal birds flying, some lizards, and frogs.
but beezlebufo would be big enough to play is my point
Who wants to play as a frog?
that's one person out of this 60,000 person server.
I am sure people would like to play as the p h r o g
Besides animating a frog and rigging it just for you is a waste.
Well a lot of people will probably want to do it for the meme
Yea for 2 minutes and never play it again.
Alpha here acting like people dont worship pepe
If they make frog ai I guess they can make Beelze too
but not really as a fully functional playable but Compy 2.0
That's why I don't like the idea of small payables (Compy sized).
I hate dead serious, humourless people...
M8 IT'S A BLOODY FROG
WHY WOULDN'T YOU WANT TO BE A FROG
A waste of money, and time.
Rather spend 7k+ on an actual playable that has a unique niche.
dude hypsii is literally the same size, just cause its a small poisonous chicken doesnt make it special
@still raptor im done
you are just being negative to be negative, beelze could have a niche, you just dont want it too
Not saying that.
Well it's a frog, but just a big one
alpha admit it
Can probably eat baby dinosaurs.
^^
kaprasuchus is viable
Keyword Probably.
Kaprosuchus is just like a Cuban Crocodile except not a crocodile, technically.
kapro? the tiny caiman? that probably didnt have long legs since we only have a skull?
Well we only know it from a skull, so we can only speculate on it's body.
Kapro? You mean the worse presto?
The main evidence for it being an active hunter are the forward facing eyes
The fact that most baby dinosaurs and some adult dinosaurs we have in game are the size of a cat makes this frog more viable
Would adding cynognathus be a good or bad idea
If they added a fictionalized Kapro it might work, but
I honestly think it would be hilarious to watch a troodon get clapped by a frog
It might work.
I honestly think it would be hilarious to watch a troodon get clapped by a frog
Couldn't
Might, but then you might as well have something like Postosuchus. Or better yet, Prestosuchus
Well a beelzebufo could nontheless grab the troodon's foot with ease.
Sickled toe moment.
presto chad
Plus speed
beezles mouth was like half its body, if a troodon got anywhere near it, half the troodon is in its mouth
Stop baiting.
troodon is bigger than you think it is
Egh, where's Nova's Kapro chart
Scroll up.
krapo can be viable :>
can
but hey
velo will be good food
Thanks
and baby dinos
im just saying. frog shouldnt be shoved aside because of viablility issues
No, it shouldn't be considered. Maybe ai in the far future, but not playable.
But I digress.
No fun aloud
Well how is a bison sized dwarf Sauropod (i.e Magyarosaurus) viable on an island with predators capable of reaching over 6 metres long
A frog is arguably more viable
Kapro is the best. End of discussion lol
Small playables are fine, but too many of them is not good either. There's a point where a creature is too small and is just a waste of server space looking at you, compy
Well the viability argument doesn't matter in a game with a lot fairly nonviable creatures.
Well how is a bison sized dwarf Sauropod (i.e Magyarosaurus) viable on an island with predators capable of reaching over 6 metres long
It can hold it's own against animals that are similar in size to Cerato.
Presto is the best. End of discussion lol
On adding Kapro, if they do I think they should make it a little bigger as if they dont I wouldnt see the point in playing it
https://www.paleontology.us/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/kaprosuchus-size.jpg
certao could clap a maggy
Ok.
Yeah presto would be better
kapro is just meh. because fictionalizing it to be the long legged croc its usually depicted as it would just become presto but not. its like giving trike longer legs to be penta but not
Seeing that the concept shows Magy holding its own against Cerato, I have to disagree with your opinion.
However they are still animals that is highly mobile on both land and in water. If that isn’t viable idk what is
kapro could get a size buff in the game
Why have a creature that you would need to heavily fictionalize/speculate on, by increasing its size, when you can just have a creature that fills a similar niche, but basically doesn't need to be modified
maybe shoulder higt wtih a human
It can hold it's own against animals that are similar to Cerato.
Made up features save it's ass. It's about as unreasonable as having a big frog. If not more unreasonable. Still, this stuff doesn't matter. There's an island with FOUR massive carnivores (Tyrannosaurus, Acrocanthosaurus, Giganotosaurus and Spinosaurus). That's very unreasonable. Still, I'm not trying to criticise. Your viability argument doesn't hold true.
They have also hinted at the roster being split so smaller dinosaurs being in game wont take away from the bigger ones depending on how that pans out.
its like say fictionalizing spino from irl to be what it is ingame but if there was actually a creature like it irl.
roster split was confirmed to be a misunderstanding
so it isnt happening
idk
I think you're forgetting that diets are going to be in the game when Magy drops.
people say kapro is to small
I’m not defending presto or kapro. As long as we have a speedy croc boi I’m glad
Or happy
man I just want my playable frog. since we can play as AI rn maybe if they add ai frogs I can play as one.
If they add it as AI, Filipe already said you could get injected as one
Also Kapro is a no for me sorry
If going for a terrestrial croc, Saurosuchus or Prestosuchus would be go-to options.
Thanks for the feedback @barren zephyr
They're guaranted quad crocs capable of running with ease.
not really
Wdym
but kapro could be viable :((
its p much a fresh spawn deino, if we get another quad carni id rather it be something more interesting and unique
Could be if heavily fictionalized, which isn't even necessary to do for some creatures like presto
Kapro needs to bring in a unique niche if developers are going to really consider it.
Which it doesn't.
the problem is if you want to give it a more unique niche than juvie deino you pretty much make it posto, and at that point you might as well have presto instead
we dont know how fast kapro is since we only have a skull, and thats what i meant by making it different enough from juvie deino
What new niche is Kapro bringing?
it isnt
presto is just the preferred animal imo
Prestochus is actually known to have been an active terrestrial hunter.
Kapro is only known by a head. so I'm leaning towards Presto myself.
Kapro on the other hand
being so fragmentary
Well there we go. Presto it is
^
Nah
if you go for the fictionalized long-legged one it could be interesting but getting it to a size where it isnt a tiny tier makes it... not a kapro
^^^^^
Bloody hell I hate speculation based on little to no evidence...
It’s what ever at this point
@mellow maple join the vc
Kapro has a lot of room for whateves, but Presto has more material work with soo ehhh?
They could use the genetic excuse again to just buff its size
But I don't like that
Oh that’s actually true
Sense we know so little about kapro. We can do almost anything with it
yea it goes both ways, on one hand you can have fun fictionalizing it but on the other hand you could go for the more complete specimen thats close to what you want
whats literally what you want*
in this case yea lol no need to stretch kapro to the limits when presto is right there
Surprise surprise, I would prefer Isle having some sense of reality.
Presto fits their needs better
and also has a ton more to work with
Is it also rauisuchian?
Yes

Apatosuchus 
Presto is not in the rauisuchidae family which is weird
but maybe its missing some anatomical features taht define the group
i mean it is wikipedia tho. may wanna check elsewhere just in case
epic
what?
My name is epic
Lol

Ello krow.
Theres a fine line between realism and having an rp game
Technically any realism game is a roleplaying game.
Only if you make it an rp game. Then those people will want more stuff to make it more "realistic" when it isnt needed gameplay wise
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makes kapro look viable lel
The animations on that. Jesus.
BAHAHAHA
kapro is viable
A way of "claiming" terrain, a way to assert dominance by pissing on grass and dead enemies to show you aint fricking around
@quasi violet you just want to piss on people don't you
@tight oxide That's not feedback. That is a demand. You provide no unique niche for the animal.
i do
i just posted it ;-;
kapro is like jaguar with croc dna
being able to go on land if no food then water
good armor for its size and a water ambush
That's any semi-aquatic animal.
herrera has climbing.
but
semi aquatic with climb
so why have to swap if u wanna swim or climb
when you can be kapro
@left nacelle i think the birds flying is fine, its not about it being a loud roar, just a piercing sound that spooks birds
as i said it could be the isle jaguar
people already want jaguar bary. not necessairly the climber part but everything else
@paper geyser Well yeah, but my main issue is that when I roar as a dryo, the sound gets masked by the flapping noise
think of the bigger picture ppl
ah i see, i agree with that, sounds are really messed up atm
think of the bigger picture ppl
presto is bigger yeah. hence why i think about it
@tight oxide Animals cost thousands of dollars to make. It wouldn't make sense to add kaprosuchus
I'm done trying to explain to you why your "feedback" on Kaprosuchus isn't feedback. You do not listen. You constantly say "I have a viable suggestion for Kapro", but you do not.
Plus kapro wasn't the long-legged crocodile you're probably imagining. That was proven wrong iirc


but arent the other dinos small...
The pepelaugh emote got me lol
Too small. That's literally a juvie deino.

hmm so its even weirder then
