#general-feedback-discussion

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civic carbon
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i could live with the stride lengths if they just fixed the head bobbing and tail shit

white spruce
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Carno's head in that animation is stock still

civic carbon
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it really isnt

granite vigil
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It moves

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Not a lot

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But it moves

lament kayak
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I mean I guess most carnos have more stiff necks but not a big deal?

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Not sure why this is the convo now tbh

civic carbon
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my issues with the run anims are tail floppiness, general posture, head bobbing and stride length

white spruce
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This is the most exaggerated curve in the entire animation. I fail to see how this is so immersion breaking for you

civic carbon
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if they fixed the first 3 i'd be fine with stride length

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it doesnt break immersion it just looks really bad lmao

lament kayak
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I didnt even notice until it was pointed out

white spruce
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Stride length is the same as legacy, it just does it in a more dinosaurian way than a humanoid way. General posture is a you thing. Head bobbing might be as well? You seem to want a stabilized head, but fail to understand that the head bobbing is how the head gets stabilized. And I'll agree on the tail being much too floppy.

lament kayak
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Now I'm curious to see how it'd look with a straighter neck there

granite vigil
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Has anyone made a side by side comparison of the runs?

white spruce
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Now I'm curious to see how it'd look with a straighter neck there
@lament kayak

civic carbon
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looks a lot better

white spruce
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No, just diagonal and side comparisons, narwhal

civic carbon
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also i had a side by side, idk where i put it though

granite vigil
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Got any pics on you?

lament kayak
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mean like

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the lil fleshy cap sliced off

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clean straight line

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Out of curiosity

white spruce
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How is the legacy animation more humanoid??
@coarse torrent More motion in the thighs only, minimal motion in the knees

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Old carno practically does the splits with every step in the old anim

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Of course you have to discount legacy carno having moon gravity, but it's much more femur-centered than theropods were considered to be

civic carbon
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didnt carno take really long strides though

white spruce
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For a dinosaur

civic carbon
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yes

white spruce
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It didn't do the split

civic carbon
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the new run isnt even the most it can do then

white spruce
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I'm not sure carno's hips even had that sort of flexibility?

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They aren't super flexible animals

civic carbon
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considering its strides could go longer, im sure they can work with it

unborn quail
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we can just not make an 1800kg theropod move like a 40kg bird lol

civic carbon
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that too

white spruce
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we can just not make an 1800kg theropod move like a 40kg bird lol
@unborn quail Would you prefer it run on the moon?

still raptor
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we can just not make an 1800kg theropod move like a 40kg bird lol
You can but, it wont look like a 1800kg theropod when it's moving.

white spruce
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I'm curious, does anyone have some papers on carnotaurus femur flexibility?

still raptor
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Try Google Scholar Herp.

unborn quail
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I'd prefer it to actually move like a heavy animal with a stiff tail over half of its length giving it balance

still raptor
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The have some good peered review articles.

unborn quail
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The animations seem to ignore the latter and make the tail look like a wet noodle waving in the wind

still raptor
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Lol, it does look like a wet pool noodle.

unborn quail
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That run has good basic motions

civic carbon
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so yeah the legs could go out more

vast heart
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That old stiff tail 😔 I miss it

lament kayak
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oh yeah so moon like

unborn quail
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My biggest complaints are the tail and the head

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Prefer a more level out posture for its head rather than sticking up like a sore thumb

lament kayak
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old animation was fine

civic carbon
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^ @unborn quail

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i can live with baby steps if we just get stiffer neck and tail

barren zephyr
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I never said that's what the animation should be changed to in my suggestion.. it was just a simulation of weight.

unborn quail
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The legs themselves are also up for argument

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new animations like allosaurus actually looks like its using its stride to push itself off the ground

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Carno looks like its doing the basic motions of a brisk jog

white spruce
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I can't find anything on dinosaur leg angles

unborn quail
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We don't have the animals leg unfortunately

white spruce
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Just of any dinosaur

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How flexible were their legs?

unborn quail
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We do know it couldn't rotate more than 90 degrees out of its socket

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(connection with the hip)

white spruce
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I do still think that legacy's run has the femurs move way too much, but I'm unsure

unborn quail
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Femur yes, most of the aditional stride would be acomplished with the tibia and fibula

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Though the femur should be able to move further back

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in the legacy run it moved far to forward, but in the Evrima run its not moving nearly as far back as it would be able to

white spruce
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I figured the legacy was too far forward

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do either do enough with the knees?

unborn quail
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Way too little motion on the back stretch

white spruce
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I do still think that it looks fine beyond the bendy spine. I agree that the back kick could be extended more, but that doesn't mean legacy's anim was great either

lament kayak
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kick

unborn quail
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Animal was literally using its back legs to propel itself forward, hell a small segment of air time isn't unwarranted

lament kayak
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pk's carno also leaning in more, maybe if our carno leaned in more it would help?

civic carbon
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it would

unborn quail
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Allosaurus handles the proper stride length best out of the new animations

lament kayak
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New allo looks super relaxed when it sprints

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thats the only strange thing with it

civic carbon
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its trot is eh

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lemme find it

unborn quail
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the trot is disgusting

civic carbon
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forgot about it lol

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now i remember what i dont like about it

lament kayak
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what about the sprint

unborn quail
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I hate how you can see the leg snapping back

civic carbon
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the sprint is ok

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out of all the new sprints, allos is the best

lament kayak
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what if it just slaps the ground and starts running like a gorilla

civic carbon
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and maybe magy's interms of weight

unborn quail
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oh god it moves like an emu

lament kayak
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Referring to gorilla vs mirror

unborn quail
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The fucking head bob

civic carbon
unborn quail
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Good stride length^

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give carno that

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Allo even has a stiffer tail and neck

lament kayak
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looks like a more brisk legacy sprint animation lol

unborn quail
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Point is, they need to really stop the emu bull shit, Birds are fine for reference, but these animals wont move 100% the same, bipedal flightless birds lack a certain thing there older theropod cousins have

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Size, a tail over half their length full of stiff bony rods, and immense weight

white spruce
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femurs

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I don't see why everybody seems to hate critters keeping their head stable?

dense wagon
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now for a moment of silence for Bryan's roasted animations in the feedback dondiSucc

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not saying the feedback isn't valid, I actually agree, but afleihfewukgfdsjh poor Bryan

barren zephyr
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it does seem a little off that for about a slip second both of spinos legs are off the ground

silver zephyr
opaque warren
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my spino boi needs love, but that'll only happen when they come back to it

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which will be a long time

mellow maple
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That thing needs a whole ass revamp

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model and animations

still raptor
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Wheat we know you despise that Spino.

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I will kill you with it and T-bag you.

mellow maple
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I'm also just deadass serious it doesn't hold up to the rest of the cast

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But nvm that

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Nova's point on how they're so light is way too true

still raptor
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The tail looks like the Pachy tail in Saurian.

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From the angle

barren zephyr
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has any dev mentioned the possibility of hiring Gabriel?

silver zephyr
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no

mellow maple
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nah

unborn quail
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No.

still raptor
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No.

mellow maple
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I like some of his stuff tho

still raptor
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Some of his projects look really good.

mellow maple
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Although 90% sure the tails are too wavy

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other than that, it looks pretty aight

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oh hey they did change the sitting animation tho

still raptor
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ew wheat used the term "lit"

rare axle
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Well damn I wouldn't want to be Bryan rn

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That's quite an amount of angry ppl risitas

mellow maple
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not all of the animations are from bryan. I thought his were mostly the red looking background with the trees.

feral wedge
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Wasn't joewatts the guy that tried to say gravity wasn't real like 3 years ago? 🤔

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That was an interesting VC

mellow maple
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who the fuck

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Ohhh, the guy who said Carno's tail should look like Vastatosaurus

feral wedge
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I mean he's not wrong about it needing to be stiffer, but.

mellow maple
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Stiffer, yes.

mental sleet
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ahem

mellow maple
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But if I wanted an example how stiff it should be.

icy lion
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nice lul

unborn quail
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you numbskull

mental sleet
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@twin burrow tell him that the second line is absolute nonsense, and the fifth.

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AND NOBODY SAW NUTHIN

icy lion
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but stunlocking isnt very fun

twin burrow
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Well uh

icy lion
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like, logically it makes sense to stumble easier if youre knocked off balance but that makes an unfun experience 99% of the time

white spruce
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carno's also a small game hunter, so giving it an ability that would really work against larger critters is odd

unborn quail
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If it requires a group to even inflict such an ability, its not that big of a deal

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more animals require more food

twin burrow
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Ya it does make sense

unborn quail
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It makes sense for varying degrees of a stumble depending on how many times your rammed into

twin burrow
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Plus it has to be coordinated correctly, if a carno in the group hits the other side of the animal in question it messes the whole thing up.

icy lion
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the cooldown would prevent a single carno from stunlocking anyway

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if you wanted a bit more info on it

barren zephyr
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As nit picky as it is I agree 🙂 @sudden tapir

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Blood time!

white spruce
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things don't necessarily need to bleed super hard always

still raptor
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Bleed system still needs polishing. It is it's first iteration so it will defiantly change over time.

white spruce
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I doubt they had the carno bled out in that spot, they just killed it

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seeing as most of the blood comes out when you're bleeding, I imagine it would impact the amount of visible blood

mellow maple
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Mind the poor quality and watermark but I'm just gonna have this up for use whenever talking about Carno's tail stiffness

still raptor
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lol makeagif

winter sage
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Carnos weren't meant to make tight turns. They were built for short, fast bursts, which means they're going to use that speed to run in a straight line, and use its neck muscles to bring down prey. Carno in Legacy was far more accurate than the interpretation they're currently attempting to create.

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"Carnotaurus tail vertebrae and realized that the upward-facing transverse processes would have made lots of room for the caudofemoralis muscle (Persons & Currie, 2011). This muscle ran along the lower sides of the tail of dinosaurs and pulled the femur backwards when contracted, providing most of the walking power. With all this room at the bottom of the tail, the cadofemoralis of Carnotaurus was greatly enlarged. This made the tail extremely round and thick, especially near the base, and provided a substantial amount of power for moving the legs (keep this in mind when drawing dinosaurs- many types, not just Carnotaurus, had very thick tails, especially near the base). This would have resulted in Carnotaurus being very fast, but not terribly agile."

mellow maple
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The TL;DR version from YDAW is that Carno traded maneuverability for raw acceleration

still raptor
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His quote was an analogy for RPG

patent bramble
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@hushed shadow If they make it easier to locate the sound, I don't think implementing a deaf aid is an advantage for those trying to use it as a gimmick or something, and I agree they should also add a color blind mode, all of that would make more people want buy the game, right? (and I'm sorry if I have grammar mistakes, im using google translate xD)

hushed shadow
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yeah thats why i said i dont know how thatd work hahah, i didnt suggest to implement a system for deaf or HoH

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i really do wish they implement a system for color blind people though, since im pretty sure the particles when smelling are yellow and blue, which is the next most common color deficiency after red-green

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plus food bushes often tend to have red berries so i have a hard time finding them or just walk right by them

patent bramble
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Yes, a color blind mode should be implemented, I don't think it's that difficult to do, and I don't distinguish edible bushes by the fruits, I distinguish them by the shape xD

hushed shadow
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yeah i should really start trying that too, ive not played in quite a bit

white spruce
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Same thing to Bilbo as to hacker. We don't know how that carno died; the intent is to show off the death effects. We have no reason to assume that this is the result of the carno bleeding out until it died.

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@barren zephyr

barren zephyr
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Did you read completely what i wrote?

white spruce
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Yes, I fail to see how it counters my point

barren zephyr
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I don’t know how did that carno die but if it died to another predator or got impaled by a stego, the floor would be flooded by liters and liters AND LITERS of blood.

white spruce
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Not only do we not know that, but even if it was you don't know that the carno stayed in that exact spot and died there to bleed

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We also don't know how fresh the body is, to my knowledge

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For all we know, right out of frame is a long trail of blood leading to this old ass carno corpse

barren zephyr
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I already covered that implication

flat crypt
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yeah if the carno died from blunt force trauma, like a teno tail, it makes sense there wouldnt be much blood, if any at all

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but if it died from say, a stego tail you'd expect to see a lot of blood

paper geyser
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The mountain is also a landmark, but yes I agree too few landmarks

past dune
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Honestly, I love the Isle but I'm looking forward to a much more bloody gore, not just your ordinary all-around bleeding cuts but don't get me wrong, I still do love the game, keep up the good work lads.

barren zephyr
ebon crypt
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That carno does have more recoil, longer strides and a better head posture, but it's still missing some more hip movement

barren zephyr
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For me the tail could be stiffer - sounds weird though

ebon crypt
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The overall animation could be faster too, but it does do some things right

summer forge
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why don't people want ambush back?

ebon crypt
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Cause legacy ambush stinks

summer forge
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how so?

ebon crypt
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Gives a cheap, free speedboost. People are okay with an acceleration boost, but not a speed boost

summer forge
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oh I see

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but imo the idea of keeping ambush, but improved should be kept

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maybe a shorter boost

ebon crypt
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Ambush can return, just in a similar style like bb, basically getting completely reworked and not affecting speed anymore

summer forge
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yeah

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I see

barren zephyr
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I don't think ambush affecting speed was really a problem. the problem is more like how it got implemented, atleast for me pepeshrug

random imp
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they could do a smaller stamina bar that will give you a speed bost

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and its up to you to decide how, when and if use it

edgy hamlet
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So could the people that reacted explain why they dont like the suggestion? lol

glossy matrix
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Carno is known to have had bad turning irl

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So an alt attack would make no sense

edgy hamlet
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that doesnt have to do with biting forward tho?

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Also standing still it should turn perfectly fine, just not when walking or running

last topaz
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Any positive/negative thoughts about my grouping suggestion?

ebon crypt
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Allowing steam friends to group from anywhere is a nice addition imo. It's neat way to meet up with friends

edgy hamlet
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so rn people just kinda deny my suggestion without a real reason lol

ebon crypt
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I don't know, it seems a bit strange for carno to have an alt-bite like utah. Even if it couldn't turn as far, it seems kinda pointless and carno isn't really meant to be fighting while standing still a lot

edgy hamlet
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yeah but it could still be implemented, doesnt mean you have to use it

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also they will probably have to rework the whole animation so why not keep the other one for the case that you stand still once

ebon crypt
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Eh, I just don't see carno being able to turn that much in place, maybe 45 degrees with that alt-bite at max, but at that point it's hardly different from the regular one. I'm all for multiple attacks that can help in combat, I just feel like this attack would be hardly used. And either way, this current animation would still need to be tweaked, at least a little bit. Looks like carno is going to fall over with that bite

edgy hamlet
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welp guess not then, sad for the animation, seems like theres much work put in it

maiden anvil
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Does no one like my suggestion? It doesn’t get any reactions

edgy hamlet
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shant probably wont get re-added, atleast not in the near future

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para was meant to be the new big stronk hadro

ebon crypt
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I like the being able to aim your stomp suggestion, but I'm not sure about the back stomp. Maybe a quick kick instead?

edgy hamlet
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yeah would make more sense, dont think any carni will run under the legs of a stomping dino

maiden anvil
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I don’t think para will be strong enough to take down most things

edgy hamlet
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dont think so either but the devs said shant probs wont come

barren zephyr
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Shant will come, it was mentioned in one of the devblogs.

maiden anvil
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I’ve seen it in a devblog that kissen once said they were going to work on several legacy creatures, one of those where the Shant. I’ve also heard all legacy dinos will be re added expect for puetra

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Exactly

edgy hamlet
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Didnt they say they dont want to include the shant?

ashen elm
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Different developers probably think different things. As of right now, it seems like Shant is back considering it was mentioned in a devlog.

edgy hamlet
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they gotta decide lol

ashen elm
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They did.

It's mentioned in the dev log, I'm just saying that might be an explanation on why you specifically might have heard different things. But Shant is still coming.

edgy hamlet
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yeah already looked at it

maiden anvil
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Consider all dinosaur she mentioned have already got their concept. It could mean shant may get one soon.

glossy matrix
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shant probably wont get re-added, atleast not in the near future
@edgy hamlet Shant got confirmed for a remake in the first devlog

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Oh it’s already posted

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I’m on mobile

maiden anvil
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So am I lol

versed zodiac
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for clarification the TI_What that i gave to @fringe orchid was for the carno bite animation being good.

last topaz
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The skins=perks is a really bad idea in my opinion. If I want to go for a tankyer build for the deino for example, I really don't want to look terrible just because

ebon crypt
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Iirc the perks aren't supposed to affect your base stats, at least a good portion of the community doesn't want perks to affect base stats. Perks should be more quality of life improvements

flat crypt
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plus like, im gonna have specific ways i want my skins to look. and i dont want the perks i want to end up being colours i find ugly that affect that

paper geyser
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yeah perks affecting base stats would make the game unfair for people that are just starting out vs veterans that have grown and died thousands of times

flat crypt
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plus makes balance an absolute nightmare

paper geyser
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that too

ebon crypt
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Unlockable skin patterns are fine, but perks or your skin changing through gameplay? Ew.

flat crypt
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like. if you have weak but fast dinos, creatures stronger than them perking speed enough to catch up would make it a nightmare

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i dont think perks should really affect appearance at all, unless they're specifically cosmetic perks

lilac swallow
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Imagine a Rex with speed perks

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Its already strong enought

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But now is allo speed

paper geyser
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i dont think perks should really affect appearance at all, unless they're specifically cosmetic perks
agreed

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this issue always comes up in games

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you want to look good but cant because you'll have to be weaker or use a playstyle you dont like

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cosmetics and perks/upgrades should always be separate imo

spring holly
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totally agree too. i dont want to look a way i dont like because i want certain perks. it sucks. same with feather vs no-feathers. i much prefer JP style dinos, but i know a lot of people dont

flat crypt
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and dear god please dont force me to use green. i hate using green in skins D: but seeing as I main herbivores im sure if this mechanic was a thing, a lot of herbie perks would be tied to green colours

mellow maple
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Depends what you mean by JP style dinos

jovial sleet
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I would rather see that utah model as a alt skin or something. (Pain's suggestion)

mellow maple
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Because to a point. Jurassic Park actually cared about relative accuracy.

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Jurassic World did not

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When I mean relative, I mean vaguely looking enough like the animal itself so it's not pointless to call it "X" animal

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Even tho it's not perfect

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The thing with most of The Isle's designs, they do a decent job with this.

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Then you get a couple stinkers like Utah.

quartz lantern
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Let's be honest, not everyone will be happy with dino designs, even if you try your hardest to be accurate, people will always have issues with it.

mellow maple
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That's no room for not trying. But yes, there will be people that nitpick not just from an anatomical standpoint but even just design wise.

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Like, fuck. Hypsilophodon is one of my favorite designs but I know that thing is not what it looked liked.

quartz lantern
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Yeah, it's interesting. But i mean we can only really guess on most dino's as a lot of things (cartilage, some horns, feathers, fibrous hair, etc.) don't show in fossils.

mellow maple
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Oh yeah, go ham with integument stuff.

arctic nimbus
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Let's be honest, not everyone will be happy with dino designs, even if you try your hardest to be accurate, people will always have issues with it.
That's fair. Everybody has their own opinion. I just really dislike how unoriginal the design is.

mellow maple
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Mmmm^^

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I should also address the fact that scaly raptors aren't really the most creative thing anymore

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There's uhh a popular movie franchise that beats this trope to death to the point where I get sick of seeing it.

quartz lantern
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lol ik how you feel on that Wheat

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But i do think it's interesting seeing the different ideas of what dinos looked like.

mellow maple
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Ooo yes. I'm very much open to speculative designs.

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Austro's new concept of webbed feet is both a reasonable assumption but also distinct at the same time from other designs.

quartz lantern
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idk if i like austro's webbed feet tbh

mellow maple
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And by other designs I mainly mean TSL and Fred's drawings of austro

quartz lantern
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ah

mellow maple
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I'm not actually sure if it did swim actively or just hung around shallow waters but I wouldn't be surprised if it did have then. Other members of the family definitely did. So that's a neat addition.

quartz lantern
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i mean...it's not swimming like a duck and has long enough legs it wouldn't need to swim much and if it did. it's so streamlined it would have no issues charging into the water and diving a short distance

mellow maple
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At that point, it'll be for QA to decide how it should play. Which I'm interested in seeing in the distant future.

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But, fuck. I got side tracked from that one suggestion. The thing is, as much as I want remodels. that shit cost money.

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A ton of it

quartz lantern
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Yeah, a small physical change alters the model in a domino effect

mellow maple
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It's why we immediately give our thoughts to the concept in feedback before it's been modeled.

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It's nice to know Punch said the devs do comment on the fan-edits. I hope they also take it into consideration.

quartz lantern
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Yeah, you'd be surprised the amount of feedback we take into consideration.

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Though we may not comment, we all read the feedback and ideas people propose.

barren zephyr
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Why is the new Austroraptor design misproportioned in comparison to skeletals of the animal

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Well tbh it is somewhat fragmentary

arctic nimbus
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No idea. I think they referenced it off of a kingfisher?

barren zephyr
silver zephyr
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its more heron esque pain

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or stork

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or crane

arctic nimbus
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Yeah you're right

silver zephyr
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dumb noodle neck long beak birds

arctic nimbus
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but they need to stop using real life animals as references.

barren zephyr
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Still, it does have close relatives for comparison

mellow maple
outer condor
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Bad proportions 😔

barren zephyr
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Buitreraptor is a Unenlagine, so you can infer some things from it

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Though the proportions are slightly different

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Either way isn't skeletal accuracy a goal for the models?

lilac swallow
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It isnt

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They dont care

mellow maple
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sometimes their models, it follows it nearly 100% perfectly

lilac swallow
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After spino they stoped caring at all

mellow maple
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And then other times. It is, not that

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Like spino

willow zealot
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Not true, look at Minmi

left nacelle
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@lusty wedge Scarring and visible wounds would be cool, but the devs already said no to mesh deformation and scars because it can cause lag if the server has to keep track of 50+ players' scars and wounds

glossy matrix
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it's herbis

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HERBIS being accurate matters

lusty wedge
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Aw man, it woild be really cool tho

glossy matrix
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that's why we're getting smaller anky

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but for carnis

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they need to be awesomebro

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because uh

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idk

nova anchor
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@still needle great idea, actually. I can see magy getting bullied a lot if they follow through with what's currently planned, so that's actually a great idea

still needle
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Yeah i just thought an after death defense would be bad and needed something more

warped oar
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I think thats the best idea that has been put up for magy yet.

versed zodiac
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magy fundamentally is a poor choice as a survival dino and I'm one of the few people who will play it when it comes out and i think i might like it. but there are so many flaws in magy's plans like after death defense is stupid plus cerato will just eat it anyway since cerato can eat anything. like magy cannot fight anything bigger than a cera. and i cant see it running from a rex with ambush. and when people say we want a suropod we want things like legacy cama or brachi. not magy. but who knows maybe magy will be really good or something.

nova anchor
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yeah that actually makes me want to play magy

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skunk niche when

molten tulip
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Gore suggestion was good except for the "punish animals for being around a corpse" part

mental sleet
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@finite dragon Punchpacket #TeamFoszor Today at 5:56 AM
by update the roadmap I changed Update 6 to "Improved Day/Night Cycle + Night Vision". Basically you're getting a Day/Night cycle in Update 2, no night vision however. But it'll be bright enough to see.

finite dragon
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Ahhh ok now I happy

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Ty for telling me

mental sleet
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np

still raptor
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Yea i was surprised by that too. You miss things when you sleep.dondiSucc

strange wave
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@willow zealot if anything, that would probably come update 5, with the gore system and all

willow zealot
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True

left nacelle
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@patent bramble That wouldn't really work with the game's lore iirc. The current plan is to have the dino drop out of the sky in a cage with parachutes when you spawn in and you can hit the sides of the cage to make it drift in different directions. That idea could work with hatching eggs tho

patent bramble
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Oh really? I had no idea about that

left nacelle
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Yeah it's a plan they've had for a few years now at least. It'll allow you to actually kinda control where you spawn

still raptor
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@primal falcon Post comments about people's feedbacks in here.

edgy harbor
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What Alpha said

patent bramble
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well if they want to do that then a nest animation could be great

still raptor
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Spawning in a free falling cage was always a neat idea.

patent bramble
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i think that could be interesting to see, now just wait to they do nice animations for that, and for all the things

still raptor
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The reason why it's dark is because of the trees casting the shade.

rare axle
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Well sure but it's not supposed to be so dark...?

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You don't see anything around you yet the sun is already quite high in the sky monkaHmm

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I mean if you guys prefer being in the void in the morning that's fine but it's a suggestion

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@versed zodiac also I think we understood you didn't like the suggestion, no need to use all the emotes you have to show it feelsweirdman

versed zodiac
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i can if i want.

rare axle
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Sure feelsweirdman

edgy harbor
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It's not a bad suggestion I think it's just the overall map is very foresty and mountainy, so it makes sense for it to be that dark. Keeping in mind the devs already said the new lighting engine is not yet finished within evrima and is subject to improve.

opaque warren
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I get what you mean, but the contrast between light and dark, in sunsets specifically, are pretty accurate, ngl

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It's not a bad suggestion I think it's just the overall map is very foresty and mountainy, so it makes sense for it to be that dark. Keeping in mind the devs already said the new lighting engine is not yet finished within evrima and is subject to improve.
@edgy harbor Lmao, pretty much the same thing yea

rare axle
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Yeah idk I feel like for the game it would be best overall to see better

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Like really it feels like the floor is a void

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Well I didn't expect the suggestion to be disliked so much lmao

edgy harbor
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I understand, maybe the shadows are a bit too dark, but it is in qa right now and filipe did say it's being worked on.

rare axle
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Yeah that was just the point, suggesting the change

opaque warren
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  • everything is getting tweeked to be brighter for the lack of nv
rare axle
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Well

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Maybe not after all if ppl like them so much

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the black hole floor is not too bad risitas

edgy harbor
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lol there's a reason we keep all suggestions, some downvoted ones or less popular ones become popular later on

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dont feel too bad

still raptor
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Yea, you just have to wait.

flat crypt
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yeah i think those edits ar a bit too extreme but it does need to be brighter

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i get that sunset is like that irl in a way, bright sky and dark ground but its pretty extreme in those screenshots. literally a black void

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its not good for your eyesight either, the extreme contrast is pretty bad, in particular if you have existing eye problems

still raptor
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^

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And why'd you delete the post?

rare axle
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Because it was just mass dislike so I guess I was wrong and that's it

still raptor
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So, just because a certain amount of people dislike something you like doesn't mean you should delete it.

rare axle
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Yeah I know, it's just that at some point I was like "OK I get it, bad idea, let's move on" lmao

glad dirge
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It could've been a short group of people, I know some start out with X but overall get more reactions of those who agree ✅

flat crypt
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i think it just may have been the edit that threw people off. personally thats why i didnt support it. i think plenty of people agree with the general idea that it does need to be a little lighter

rare axle
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Well we'll never know I guess lmao

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And yeah maybe I fucked the edit

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It's just that I take landscape photography as an hobby sometimes and I tried to take a picture as a reference

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It looked okayish to me

flat crypt
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i think sunset/dusk/etc should still be dark because irl that is what its like. the bright sky causes a lot of contrast and can make the ground a little hard to see. but i think they've leaned a little too hard into it so far

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at least its WIP, hopefully the final product is a little lighter

rare axle
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Yeah I just feel like the contrast isn't actually that big unless you use a camera and the camera focus on the sun and thus lose detail of the environment

dreamy wharf
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While vaulting and climbing is nice and all

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You shouldn’t be able to vault over obstacles that are larger than knee height.

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If you run into a fallen tree and you get stuck on it, that’s on you.

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It makes for some really big brain plays when you and the boys lead a group of X animal into a fallen log that they’re not looking for and be able to make a getaway.

glad dirge
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Thats always true

dreamy wharf
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A good compromise would be to design those obstacles in such a way that they’re not constantly covered in something.

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Currently the way biomes/foliage is generated is relatively “procedural” which leads into getting logged without you even being able to KNOW to avoid it which is unfair.

edgy harbor
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In terms of gameplay I prefer less punishing more intuitive forms of .. well.. player punishment. Look as assassins' creed for example. It's an entirely 100% stealth and mobility based game. It would make a lot of sense to punish a player for running into a barrel or wall. But you don't. Because it benefits gameplay, and is less frustrating to use.

In this case I want to say it's more beneficial to have a system as such in place. And instead of punishing a player for running into a chest height rock, punish them for deciding to run with bleed, or run into an ambush, ect.

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However like you said, a compromise may be in order. Depending on how it actually plays out in game, not on paper.

glad dirge
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The smoother motion of teno would be kinda cool though, I feel like at least a teno should be able to hop over a small tree trunk if you are at sprinting speed instead of doing that weird horse buck where it throws its shoulders in the air and points its head down

dreamy wharf
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Somewhat agree somewhat don’t. I’d really love to be able to test something like this with assassins creed style “chase breaker” pieces of foliage.

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For awhile now I’ve suggested having certain trees or roots that allow smaller players to run through them instead of around while larger things have gotta do the latter.

edgy harbor
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^ If that map was built around that, that would be sooooo cool.

glad dirge
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I agree HypsiLove ^

silk heath
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@spice patio I really agree with you, I would like having rare skin and when I hatch babies some of them can have rare skins and that would be really cool.

spice patio
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yeah, I'd find it really interesting

glad dirge
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Like a genetics system

spice patio
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@glad dirge i agree

glad dirge
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very interesting TI_Perfect

silk heath
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@glad dirge Yes! Juvies need able to survive to be independent or get adopted but anyhow, rocks or cliffs should let juvies escape from danger to make it easier.

glad dirge
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Just something to avoid instant death on sight which happens a lot! BAHAa

flat crypt
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i think rather than juvies sort of staying perched on the cliff, it should act more like a ladder for juvies to get a quick escape. if you just stand around, considering the chance of falling the adults can probably just wait you out. But if it's used more of a way to get from one area to another, it gives juvies a way of escaping

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but otherwise, love it! Juvies do need more help imo. the fact they're a lot faster than the travesty that is legacy juvies helps, but it's still a rough life for them

edgy harbor
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@proven lagoon You need to give more feedback than "devs bad lol" Also this is obvious flamebaiting. Please don't post feedback unless it's constructive.

feral wedge
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@lunar apex What server?

lunar apex
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Teutonic 1

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he do it all the time now is he go but he came more times the day

still raptor
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I don't think Gar can help you with that issue. It's not an official server.

lunar apex
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but the Admins can do nothing vs he2

feral wedge
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It'll be addressed next update.

low dock
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Did he by chance go by the name "UT"

lunar apex
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so then better dont play more evrima befor the update come? it not nice but ok when this the only way then is it so. than it makes no fun ever to die all 2h from a hacker

feral wedge
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We also can't help unofficial servers.

still raptor
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Yes, you will have to wait till update 2, which won't be that long judging the roadmap.

feral wedge
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I mean Teutonic admins should be very capable of banning them, too.

lunar apex
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yeah but he is not stupid he come ever when no one online. but we need more protetection on all server from hacker! any evrima play not mutch and in the next day even less really frustrate. and not good for reputation from the game.
and that would be a real shame if everyone stopped playing it completely because they were dying

valid zephyr
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Not sure why the lighting suggestion got mega downvoted.

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Irl the ground is light long before the sun is up

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In the isle it’s frustrating when the sun is rising but the ground is still a black hole void

ebon crypt
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Which suggestion was it?

valid zephyr
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It got deleted sadly

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As it got tons of downvotes

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Was basically asking for the ground to stay light for a bit before the sun is up and after it’s set. To make it more realistic

rare axle
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Jumping in, I was the one who made the suggestion and I can show you some comparison if you're curious

ebon crypt
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I don't see what's wrong with that suggestion, sad that it got deleted

ebon crypt
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That looks great

rare axle
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That was that basically but yeh I deleted it because it was just 30 dislikes for 1 like and emotes like Unamused and dondiFacepalm being spammed

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So I was annoyed

ebon crypt
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Did anyone give feedback on why they didn't like it?

barren zephyr
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@charred nova the bit about roots in the suggestion does make sense, since Orodromeus was a burrowing animal irl.

rare axle
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Didn't look realistic

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Apparently

charred nova
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Look at how many dinos burrow

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Not unique at all

ebon crypt
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Strange. Imo the lighting could definitely be a bit brighter, maybe not as bright as the fist comparison, but still. And especially if we won't have night vision for a while

rare axle
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I mean it kinda is bright like that when the sun is that visible

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Even with trees, the sun is sending light rays that bounce off the floor

valid zephyr
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gab would probs look better if you cut the picture in two and brightened the terrain but not the sky

rare axle
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Giving shadows some colors

valid zephyr
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Also wow this community has changed.

If you posted mating 5 call suggestions in 2018 you would be hit with 50+ downvotes within a couple of hours.

Now it's upvoted and popular.

ebon crypt
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Both broadcast and friendly calls can work as mating calls, don't really see a need for a 5th call

ashen wasp
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Mhm. Lot of unnecessary work to add it and its forms to every playable

still raptor
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It is unnecessary to add skins to certain dinosaurs at this time. The skin system isn't even a major core mechanic like bleed, fishing, venom, nv, etc.

random imp
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when they'll add emotes 'n stuff there could be a "mating dance" emote, but i think that'd be already much

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a new call is redundant

real kraken
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I dont particularly like the custom skins feature, I'd much prefer different patterns

rare axle
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mating suggestions being taken seriously, what happened to this discord NOOOOOOOOO

flint root
silver zephyr
rare axle
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A few months ago, when someone would dare to make any kind of mating suggestions it would be hated by everyone unconditionally NOOOOOOOOO

silver zephyr
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i think its moreso because its just a call not ya know... the actual action but still yeah

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any suggestion involving mating cringe

ebon crypt
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But my erp!1!!1

valid zephyr
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in 2018 a mating 5 call suggestion would get ripped to shreds.

still raptor
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Oh god.

rare axle
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I mean if they want to slightly modify the calls so you can tell which one is female and which one is male, why not

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it's just

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"mating call"

barren zephyr
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Mating calls

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sounds like horny dinosaurs to me

flint root
silver zephyr
still raptor
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sounds like horny Dinosaurs to me
Before you edited that.

barren zephyr
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Sounds horny

flint root
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Die

barren zephyr
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Roger that

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Ok what now

quartz lantern
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@rare axle The reason for the darkness is because it was early morning and the lighting was important for that 'ambush to water' feel

rare axle
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yeaaah I get that early morning thing, but I can compare a few pictures from where the sun is even lower than that in real life and yet you can clearly see more details around you

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At the end of the day i'm not saying these screens look bad or anything but

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well my personal preference would be to enjoy day light for a longer period of time, and I think it's a better experience overall

quartz lantern
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i didn't want the image to be washed out and lack of depth. the issue with brightening the image on it's own is it washes out the brights and 'greys' the darks.

rare axle
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oh yeah no i'm not talking about the images themselves

quartz lantern
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Ah okay, i see where you're coming from

rare axle
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I just wish the game would have more exposure or that the light would be more intense

still raptor
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@toxic mantle comments on peoples feedback should go in here.

silver zephyr
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btw punch is pingable yall

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unless its strictly forbidden in feedback or something

last topaz
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ah

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lemme take back my reactions

ebon crypt
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Punch is pingable, but I don't think that this is the right time to ping him. Besides, they said that they already read through feedback

still raptor
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Punch is probably sleeping rn.

last topaz
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did my guy really put "all of the above" on my poll feedback?

silver zephyr
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ptera is in update 3 already

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sucho was taken out due to being too big

last topaz
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yeah people were talking about changing it

silver zephyr
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and beipi is still technically in it but they arent sure if they have the time

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yeah people were talking about changing it
what?????

last topaz
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some guys said in isle discussion and now in feedback someone said that they wanna replace the ptera with beip

mental sleet
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Whoever said that is most definitely wrong.

last topaz
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I dunno, ptera seems unchallanged, it can't hunt and can't be hunted

mental sleet
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Well, it's not meant to be challenged.

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Outside of when landed, it doesn't have any predators, it can't hunt.

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It can probably fish, and occasionally scavenge (though risky)

feral wedge
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@vagrant lagoon Don't tag Punch for feedback/suggestions.

edgy harbor
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@loud crow Please avoid tagging Punch in feedback channels.

visual mural
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I feel like the fisher update would be better off as an aquatic update in general

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Deino, a proper fisher, and Bepi would work the best

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Ptera just kinda lives in his own world and happens to be able to eat fish

still raptor
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Are mercenaries a good idea for the game?
That's a question, not Feedback.

loud crow
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@edgy harbor kk

edgy harbor
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Thank you

glad dirge
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dang lots of questions

safe galleon
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mating calls 🗿

still raptor
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That's a question not feedback.

glossy matrix
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lmao

molten tulip
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Idk I really like the idea of picking up your prey and then once you catch it shaking the screen with your mouse to snap its neck

glossy matrix
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@pallid acorn that isn't feedback

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that's just

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a statement

pallid acorn
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@pallid acorn that isn't feedback
@glossy matrix I thought there were lots of people who were trying to get aquatic rather than Jp style?

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I'll definitely take it somewhere else if not, but I said that to kinda...bring another point for Jp style as opposed to aquatic

still raptor
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^

glossy matrix
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i think

still raptor
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A statement.

glossy matrix
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they should edit the model

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and make it a little more accurate

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but still jp style

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make the legs slightly shorter and give the tail a paddle

pallid acorn
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they should edit the model
@glossy matrix Oh yeah, a balance between Jp and real, but having a full-on aquatic spino might be trouble for the game

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Is it still just statement-y? What can I say to make it sound like actual feedback?

lime gulch
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dont we already have rainforest/jungles?

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i mean thats basically the entire map

versed zodiac
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don't we already have rainforest/jungles?
@lime gulch not really what we have are more dried up jungles I'm thinking rainforest areas that are striking not all the same color.

lime gulch
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I can see where you are coming from. But we also have never had rain cycles. So who knows how it will look once it starts to rain and saturates the earth/makes all of the leaves wet. It could give off the vibe of rainforest like you are thinking of

versed zodiac
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I can see where you are coming from. But we also have never had rain cycles. So who knows how it will look once it starts to rain and saturates the earth/makes all of the leaves wet. It could give off the vibe of rainforest like you are thinking of
@lime gulch fair enough however im thinking more south American rainforests with thick canopies.

maiden anvil
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@versed zodiac I like your ideas about bioms. I also really like that you mention Magy being a good savannah creature because of the lower tree vegetation that grows there. Also for some reason I feel like magy is like a zebra, which is a savannah creature as well😁

versed zodiac
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@versed zodiac I like your ideas about bioms. I also really like that you mention Magy being a good savannah creature because of the lower tree vegetation that grows there. Also for some reason I feel like magy is like a zebra, which is a savannah creature as well😁
@maiden anvil thx honestly i see Maggy as a giraffe niche like i think it would only belong in the savanna or maybe the gumtree forests. also it would be cool for carno to live in the savanna as i feel that would be the perfect hunting grounds for it

tight oxide
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so uh what do you guys think of gojirasurus

maiden anvil
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I think carno would do amazing in deserts 😄

tight oxide
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it was a relative of dilo

maiden anvil
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Not necessary

tight oxide
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and not that much love for it

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could be viable

maiden anvil
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I’m sorry

tight oxide
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plus the isle kinda needs more less known dinos

maiden anvil
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How?

tight oxide
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because

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why not

maiden anvil
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I mean

tight oxide
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more less known dinos=more people knowing about a dino they never knew

maiden anvil
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I had no idea about magy before the isle

lime gulch
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gojira = godzilla ? confirmed

tight oxide
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gojirasaurus was almost as big as dilo

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lel

maiden anvil
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Sorry pal but I think more famous dinos attracts more people to play

tight oxide
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i mean

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do all dinos game just have to have popular dinos?

maiden anvil
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Those who want to succeed

tight oxide
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path of titans

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didnt even want to add rex on launch XD

maiden anvil
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lol me either

tight oxide
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rex very popular

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lets be honest

versed zodiac
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f**k rex

tight oxide
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lol

versed zodiac
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maggy best

lime gulch
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so is the day/night cycle being added to this update? or are they just showing off what they have so far?

versed zodiac
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yes. its bieng added this update

lime gulch
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yes what

tight oxide
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gojirasaurs should be added :>

lime gulch
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okay but what sets gojira apart from dilo or utah?

tight oxide
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simple

versed zodiac
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was gojirasaurs a piscovore

tight oxide
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its more of Herrera but if herrera could fight utah and dilo kinda

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its a triassic dino

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so uh yea

maiden anvil
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Some sorry @tight oxide I don’t wanna be rude but G-saurus it’s a highly unnecessary pick. We already have more then enough 2 tier carnivores coming and there nothing unique about apart from its name.

tight oxide
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welp

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i tried

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sorry g saurus maybe another game will accept you

maiden anvil
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Lol

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It could be a skin tho as a perk for dilo

tight oxide
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for real its not in any dino game beside dinosaur king

still raptor
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We don't need anymore creatures. We have 50+. It is already hard to fill certain animals with certain niches.

tight oxide
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so uh

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what about

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those croc who lived more on land

maiden anvil
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Alpha is right

still raptor
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We already have a Croc (aka Deino)

tight oxide
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no i mean

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urrrghhh

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u know

maiden anvil
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Kapro

tight oxide
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that croc with longer legs

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yus

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something like that

maiden anvil
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Kaprosuchus?

tight oxide
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YES

still raptor
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Kapro is useless. (Come at me Eye).

tight oxide
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it cant be that bad of a choice

still raptor
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It's super small

maiden anvil
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Actually no

tight oxide
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ik

maiden anvil
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I think kapro could be a good playable

tight oxide
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croc fighting small dinos or babies lel

maiden anvil
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Fast on land and in water

tight oxide
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yus

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but bad stam maybe

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?

maiden anvil
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Plus we get a quad predator that runs like a wolf

tight oxide
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wasnt kaprosuchus big as a human?

lime gulch
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Megalania is essentially your "land-gator"

maiden anvil
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No I think it also could ha good stam

tight oxide
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so it could prob fight utah

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but kaprosuchus gotta have a nerf in some way

maiden anvil
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Oh yea we are getting Mega

tight oxide
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maybe weak bite

still raptor
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I still don't like Megalania.

lime gulch
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megalania is already apart of the roster

maiden anvil
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Forgot about it

tight oxide
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oh ya

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that lizard

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hope it can tail swipe

maiden anvil
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Why don’t u like megalania?

tight oxide
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i do

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but kaprosuchus could be viable just saying

maiden anvil
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Was talking to aplha

silver zephyr
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kapro is worse presto

lime gulch
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it will most likely have some form of venom because of its disposition to that of a komodo dragon

tight oxide
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maybe

silver zephyr
still raptor
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I just don't like most Cenozoic animals compared to Paleozoic and Mesozoic animals.

tight oxide
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lol

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small boi

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ya not worth the work to add it

maiden anvil
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I only like them as long as they aren’t mammals

tight oxide
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ikr

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the isle shall be only reptiles >:)

lime gulch
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its basically a modern crocodile if not smaller whats the point if deino is just going to eat them all.

maiden anvil
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I think it’s cool to have more then just dinosaurs to play as

still raptor
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the isle shall be only reptiles >:)
Archosaurs lol

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Technically...

maiden anvil
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Could Kapro be AI then?

still raptor
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Everything is related.

tight oxide
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ima do research to find a bigger relative of kapro

maiden anvil
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That’s true

lime gulch
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archosaurs droop snoot

silver zephyr
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do presto

still raptor
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You just get smaller versions of Deino and Presto's cousins.

tight oxide
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what about this guy

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a

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let me fix that

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there

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that guy

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nah

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it kinda small to...

silver zephyr
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pw dondiREE

still raptor
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Prehistoric wildlife has super inaccurate size comparisons.

tight oxide
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ngl

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that was the biggest relative

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i could find

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side by side i guess

maiden anvil
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I’ve been wanting to do a suggestion about modern animals being small AI. Almost like a mini fauna. Though, instead of using modern gators, kapro AI could be neat

tight oxide
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true

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but im simping for a kapro type of croc to be added

maiden anvil
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And that’s a good thing

tight oxide
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to be added as playable

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but who knows if the dev would want that

maiden anvil
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Idk pal

tight oxide
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cus deino will be giant and fat on land lol

still raptor
tight oxide
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all i can say is

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im simping to much for a kapro relative to be added as playable

maiden anvil
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I think kapro would be good AI. It’s hard to hunt on land and in water. If we had gator AI it would be easy to hunt them on land cause they slow

tight oxide
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yus

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b---but

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Mahajangasuchus

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:((

maiden anvil
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Maha-what?

tight oxide
#

Mahajangasuchus

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kapro relative

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was bigger

maiden anvil
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Never heard but sounds cool

tight oxide
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serach it

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it was also more land

still raptor
#

We don't need smaller versions of Deino.

tight oxide
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you dont understand alpha

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😠

maiden anvil
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Why not alpha

tight oxide
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if they can add small utahs who cimb then why not small deinos

still raptor
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I do understand. At this point the argument is "It looks cool, so we must add it."

tight oxide
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n--nno

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fast on land

maiden anvil
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I’m not about that. Not at all

tight oxide
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and ok in water

still raptor
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I haven't heard you guys provide a unique niche for these animals.

maiden anvil
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Then I will

tight oxide
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Mahajangasuchus/kapro were fast on land and ok in water and could be good for hunting stuff its size

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and even maybe fighting herrera

still raptor
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Herrera will destroy it.

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For kapro.

tight oxide
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what about

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Mahajangasuchus

maiden anvil
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Having a small crocodile AI would be good food source for semi aquatic animals and they can eat carcasses next to water

tight oxide
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that was more robust ill say

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we should have bugs as juvi food tbh

maiden anvil
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Nah

tight oxide
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dragon flies

still raptor
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Mhajangasuchus, there is no point for it.

glossy matrix
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@tight oxide yknow why nobody talks about it

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because

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it's a shitty, dubious genus

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with a trash name

still raptor
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If you can provide a unique niche for kapro and put it in feedback, then I'll think about it.

maiden anvil
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Don’t see why it has to be added but I don’t se why it wouldn’t

tight oxide
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wow

maiden anvil
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Alright

tight oxide
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just wow

glossy matrix
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it wouldn't because it's dubious
troodon is an exception

tight oxide
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i feel hurt

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i just feel hurt

maiden anvil
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I’ll send love to u sonic

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Lol

tight oxide
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thanks

tight oxide
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finally

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i know

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what can make

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kaprosuchus viable

barren zephyr
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@tight oxide Gojirasaurus is probably just an oversized Coelophysis

tight oxide
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a

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well yes but actually no

still raptor
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It is in the same family as Ceolophysis.

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Ceolophyisidae.

tight oxide
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ik

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:>

unreal gorge
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now hear me out... Beezlebufo... for swamps. maybe it could be a food source for the swamp dinos

barren zephyr
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Well still it's just a worse dilo

still raptor
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As particle effects, sure.

barren zephyr
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Beelzebufo

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Hmmm sounds interesting

unreal gorge
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yeeees

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i love them

barren zephyr
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Also called pacman frogs cos they've got big mouths

still raptor
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But we don't need everything extinct in this game when it comes to environmental scenery. We can have normal birds flying, some lizards, and frogs.

unreal gorge
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but beezlebufo would be big enough to play is my point

still raptor
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Who wants to play as a frog?

unreal gorge
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M E

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bruh

still raptor
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that's one person out of this 60,000 person server.

unreal gorge
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I am sure people would like to play as the p h r o g

still raptor
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Besides animating a frog and rigging it just for you is a waste.

barren zephyr
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Well a lot of people will probably want to do it for the meme

still raptor
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Yea for 2 minutes and never play it again.

unreal gorge
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Alpha here acting like people dont worship pepe

ashen elm
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If they make frog ai I guess they can make Beelze too
but not really as a fully functional playable but Compy 2.0

still raptor
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That's why I don't like the idea of small payables (Compy sized).

barren zephyr
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I hate dead serious, humourless people...

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M8 IT'S A BLOODY FROG

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WHY WOULDN'T YOU WANT TO BE A FROG

still raptor
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A waste of money, and time.

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Rather spend 7k+ on an actual playable that has a unique niche.

unreal gorge
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dude hypsii is literally the same size, just cause its a small poisonous chicken doesnt make it special

still raptor
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More special than oro and taco.

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Oro and taco don't have a niche in this game.

tight oxide
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@still raptor im done

unreal gorge
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you are just being negative to be negative, beelze could have a niche, you just dont want it too

still raptor
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Not saying that.

barren zephyr
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Well it's a frog, but just a big one

tight oxide
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alpha admit it

barren zephyr
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Can probably eat baby dinosaurs.

unreal gorge
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^^

tight oxide
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kaprasuchus is viable

still raptor
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Keyword Probably.

tight oxide
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no

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:((

barren zephyr
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Kaprosuchus is just like a Cuban Crocodile except not a crocodile, technically.

icy lion
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kapro? the tiny caiman? that probably didnt have long legs since we only have a skull?

barren zephyr
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Well we only know it from a skull, so we can only speculate on it's body.

ebon crypt
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Kapro? You mean the worse presto?

barren zephyr
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The main evidence for it being an active hunter are the forward facing eyes

unreal gorge
barren zephyr
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Would adding cynognathus be a good or bad idea

torn thistle
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If they added a fictionalized Kapro it might work, but

unreal gorge
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I honestly think it would be hilarious to watch a troodon get clapped by a frog

still raptor
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It might work.

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I honestly think it would be hilarious to watch a troodon get clapped by a frog
Couldn't

torn thistle
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Might, but then you might as well have something like Postosuchus. Or better yet, Prestosuchus

still raptor
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Ew. Presto.

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Not a fan.

barren zephyr
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Well a beelzebufo could nontheless grab the troodon's foot with ease.

still raptor
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Sickled toe moment.

silver zephyr
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presto chad

still raptor
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Plus speed

unreal gorge
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beezles mouth was like half its body, if a troodon got anywhere near it, half the troodon is in its mouth

still raptor
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Stop baiting.

icy lion
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troodon is bigger than you think it is

torn thistle
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Egh, where's Nova's Kapro chart

still raptor
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Scroll up.

tight oxide
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krapo can be viable :>

still raptor
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can

tight oxide
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but hey

ebon crypt
tight oxide
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velo will be good food

torn thistle
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Thanks

tight oxide
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and baby dinos

unreal gorge
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im just saying. frog shouldnt be shoved aside because of viablility issues

still raptor
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No, it shouldn't be considered. Maybe ai in the far future, but not playable.

tight oxide
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look

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the more small dinos

still raptor
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But I digress.

unreal gorge
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No fun aloud

tight oxide
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more krapo food

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plus krapo can go eat fish

barren zephyr
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Well how is a bison sized dwarf Sauropod (i.e Magyarosaurus) viable on an island with predators capable of reaching over 6 metres long

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A frog is arguably more viable

tight oxide
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and its fast so it get away from big bois

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plus krapo packs

maiden anvil
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Kapro is the best. End of discussion lol

ebon crypt
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Small playables are fine, but too many of them is not good either. There's a point where a creature is too small and is just a waste of server space looking at you, compy

barren zephyr
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Well the viability argument doesn't matter in a game with a lot fairly nonviable creatures.

still raptor
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Well how is a bison sized dwarf Sauropod (i.e Magyarosaurus) viable on an island with predators capable of reaching over 6 metres long
It can hold it's own against animals that are similar in size to Cerato.

silver zephyr
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Presto is the best. End of discussion lol

real kraken
maiden anvil
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Presto would actually be better

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Ngl

unreal gorge
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certao could clap a maggy

still raptor
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Ok.

maiden anvil
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Yeah presto would be better

silver zephyr
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kapro is just meh. because fictionalizing it to be the long legged croc its usually depicted as it would just become presto but not. its like giving trike longer legs to be penta but not

still raptor
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Seeing that the concept shows Magy holding its own against Cerato, I have to disagree with your opinion.

maiden anvil
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However they are still animals that is highly mobile on both land and in water. If that isn’t viable idk what is

tight oxide
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kapro could get a size buff in the game

ebon crypt
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Why have a creature that you would need to heavily fictionalize/speculate on, by increasing its size, when you can just have a creature that fills a similar niche, but basically doesn't need to be modified

tight oxide
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maybe shoulder higt wtih a human

barren zephyr
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It can hold it's own against animals that are similar to Cerato.
Made up features save it's ass. It's about as unreasonable as having a big frog. If not more unreasonable. Still, this stuff doesn't matter. There's an island with FOUR massive carnivores (Tyrannosaurus, Acrocanthosaurus, Giganotosaurus and Spinosaurus). That's very unreasonable. Still, I'm not trying to criticise. Your viability argument doesn't hold true.

unreal gorge
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They have also hinted at the roster being split so smaller dinosaurs being in game wont take away from the bigger ones depending on how that pans out.

silver zephyr
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its like say fictionalizing spino from irl to be what it is ingame but if there was actually a creature like it irl.

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roster split was confirmed to be a misunderstanding

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so it isnt happening

tight oxide
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idk

still raptor
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I think you're forgetting that diets are going to be in the game when Magy drops.

tight oxide
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people say kapro is to small

silver zephyr
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cause it is

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its basically a modern croc

maiden anvil
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I’m not defending presto or kapro. As long as we have a speedy croc boi I’m glad

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Or happy

unreal gorge
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man I just want my playable frog. since we can play as AI rn maybe if they add ai frogs I can play as one.

barren zephyr
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Well frogs are cool.

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So why not play as a frog

ashen elm
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If they add it as AI, Filipe already said you could get injected as one

tight oxide
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kapro can just main fish

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and then eat dinos when desperate

ashen elm
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Also Kapro is a no for me sorry

unreal gorge
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sweet, real phrog hours

barren zephyr
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If going for a terrestrial croc, Saurosuchus or Prestosuchus would be go-to options.

maiden anvil
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Thanks for the feedback @barren zephyr

barren zephyr
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They're guaranted quad crocs capable of running with ease.

tight oxide
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not really

barren zephyr
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Wdym

tight oxide
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but kapro could be viable :((

icy lion
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its p much a fresh spawn deino, if we get another quad carni id rather it be something more interesting and unique

ebon crypt
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Could be if heavily fictionalized, which isn't even necessary to do for some creatures like presto

barren zephyr
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Cynognathus?

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Well it's a fairly small quad carnivore.

ashen elm
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Kapro needs to bring in a unique niche if developers are going to really consider it.
Which it doesn't.

icy lion
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the problem is if you want to give it a more unique niche than juvie deino you pretty much make it posto, and at that point you might as well have presto instead

maiden anvil
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How?

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Presto or Kapro is way faster then Julie deino

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And is not built like one

icy lion
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we dont know how fast kapro is since we only have a skull, and thats what i meant by making it different enough from juvie deino

ashen elm
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What new niche is Kapro bringing?

mellow maple
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hold on since when was presto confirmed

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or is presto just the better animal

icy lion
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it isnt

maiden anvil
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It’s not

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A better animal

icy lion
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presto is just the preferred animal imo

barren zephyr
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Prestochus is actually known to have been an active terrestrial hunter.

mellow maple
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Kapro is only known by a head. so I'm leaning towards Presto myself.

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Kapro on the other hand

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being so fragmentary

maiden anvil
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Well there we go. Presto it is

mellow maple
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they could do whatever they want

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so it'll can go either way

maiden anvil
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^

mellow maple
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I mean I like em both

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both of them deserve more rep

maiden anvil
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Nah

icy lion
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if you go for the fictionalized long-legged one it could be interesting but getting it to a size where it isnt a tiny tier makes it... not a kapro

maiden anvil
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^^^^^

barren zephyr
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Bloody hell I hate speculation based on little to no evidence...

maiden anvil
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It’s what ever at this point

still raptor
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@mellow maple join the vc

mellow maple
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Kapro has a lot of room for whateves, but Presto has more material work with soo ehhh?

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They could use the genetic excuse again to just buff its size

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But I don't like that

maiden anvil
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Oh that’s actually true

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Sense we know so little about kapro. We can do almost anything with it

icy lion
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yea it goes both ways, on one hand you can have fun fictionalizing it but on the other hand you could go for the more complete specimen thats close to what you want

silver zephyr
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whats literally what you want*

maiden anvil
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Exactly

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So make it a crocodile + Jaguar

icy lion
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in this case yea lol no need to stretch kapro to the limits when presto is right there

mellow maple
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Surprise surprise, I would prefer Isle having some sense of reality.

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Presto fits their needs better

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and also has a ton more to work with

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Is it also rauisuchian?

silver zephyr
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Yes

mellow maple
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wait no

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I googled it, it's not lmao. One would think buttt

silver zephyr
mellow maple
silver zephyr
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wtf is that lol

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DiloSip hmm so its even weirder then

ashen elm
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Apatosuchus TI_Squint

mellow maple
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Presto is not in the rauisuchidae family which is weird

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but maybe its missing some anatomical features taht define the group

silver zephyr
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i mean it is wikipedia tho. may wanna check elsewhere just in case

mellow maple
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i'll double check in a bit

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gotta get a pizza

silver zephyr
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epic

maiden anvil
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Hey

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Oh

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You mean me or the pizza?...

silver zephyr
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what?

maiden anvil
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My name is epic

silver zephyr
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oh

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i meant the pizza

maiden anvil
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Lol

edgy harbor
still raptor
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Ello krow.

flint root
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Theres a fine line between realism and having an rp game

still raptor
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Technically any realism game is a roleplaying game.

flint root
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Only if you make it an rp game. Then those people will want more stuff to make it more "realistic" when it isnt needed gameplay wise

tight oxide
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makes kapro look viable lel

still raptor
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The animations on that. Jesus.

flint root
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BAHAHAHA

tight oxide
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kapro is viable

sick dirge
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A way of "claiming" terrain, a way to assert dominance by pissing on grass and dead enemies to show you aint fricking around herra
@quasi violet you just want to piss on people don't you

still raptor
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@tight oxide That's not feedback. That is a demand. You provide no unique niche for the animal.

tight oxide
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i do

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i just posted it ;-;

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kapro is like jaguar with croc dna

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being able to go on land if no food then water

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good armor for its size and a water ambush

still raptor
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That's any semi-aquatic animal.

tight oxide
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climbing

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:>

still raptor
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herrera has climbing.

tight oxide
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but

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semi aquatic with climb

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so why have to swap if u wanna swim or climb

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when you can be kapro

paper geyser
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@left nacelle i think the birds flying is fine, its not about it being a loud roar, just a piercing sound that spooks birds

tight oxide
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as i said it could be the isle jaguar

silver zephyr
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people already want jaguar bary. not necessairly the climber part but everything else

tight oxide
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a

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bary

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vs sucho

left nacelle
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@paper geyser Well yeah, but my main issue is that when I roar as a dryo, the sound gets masked by the flapping noise

tight oxide
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think of the bigger picture ppl

paper geyser
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ah i see, i agree with that, sounds are really messed up atm

silver zephyr
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think of the bigger picture ppl
presto is bigger yeah. hence why i think about it Thanking

left nacelle
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@tight oxide Animals cost thousands of dollars to make. It wouldn't make sense to add kaprosuchus

still raptor
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I'm done trying to explain to you why your "feedback" on Kaprosuchus isn't feedback. You do not listen. You constantly say "I have a viable suggestion for Kapro", but you do not.

tight oxide
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ik

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but

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fine what ever

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alpha

left nacelle
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Plus kapro wasn't the long-legged crocodile you're probably imagining. That was proven wrong iirc

tight oxide
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sorry say your suggetion

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bluebird u just had to ruin it ::((

silver zephyr
tight oxide
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i get the point

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it small

left nacelle
tight oxide
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but arent the other dinos small...

left nacelle
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The pepelaugh emote got me lol

still raptor
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Too small. That's literally a juvie deino.