A tackle would prolly function differently
#general-feedback-discussion
dreamy wharf
The big thing with allo is that he was going to be a grappling god. If that's somehow changed as his only defining trait, then I have yet to see.
covert birch
Make it a terrain affected gimick
Dealing debuffs based on what you tackle people into
dreamy wharf
What?
covert birch
So like
Tackle someone into a jagged object
They hurt themselves and get bleed
Tackle someone straight to the ground they get more blunt damage
Etc
Idk tho, just spitballing here
Grapple is more of a hold down
Tackle is more of a me and you moving in x direction into something
That something could be interesting if plays a role, in the case that is programmable
dreamy wharf
I'm more confused here.
Are you suggesting this for Acro?
Or anything in general?
wraith breach
I like ur idea
dreamy wharf
If so, what's the point? Tackling will be coming as a semi-universal thing regardless according to Don.
covert birch
Raven made a doc ages ago
wraith breach
But the isle has no grab grapple tackle
covert birch
That's grapple zann
dreamy wharf
Tackling and grappling are different, I know.
Don specifically mentioned tackling, for instance pushing something to the ground with your weight.
While he was mentioning some QTE-esque things.
dreamy wharf
He also mentioned it was coming to various things, not necessarily one. Personally, I don't think curbing an animal's gimmick on: "It can shove things around alil so they force people to not be able to do anything" is a fun, or creative mechanic.
honest sparrow
Idk I guess kinda like a shoulder charge?
covert birch
There was another thing on acro doing monitor esque wrestling
Lemme see if I can find the old raven suggestion
covert birch
Went more in depth mechanically
But as a base yea
The doc also made it more nocturnal
Taking the role of current sub giga in the environment but not shit
dreamy wharf
I'm now just imagining a semi-nocturnal acro that's framed the same way as current sub giga with a grappling mechanic. Personally, I'm not one for it, considering, and I'm going to just assume here, is that it was primarily made to be a slow but bigger allo that grapples real good at night.
Although, it isn't a dogshit start.
More intuitive than:
"IT GRAPPLES."
I should give it a read, got the document on you?
honest sparrow
He might still be looking for it
dreamy wharf
No worries.
rugged condor
ive seen 4 suggestions about strains and ive disliked every single one
wraith breach
so if they are adding prehistoric fishes to the game
why dont they add prehistoric birds.
which randomly wander about
left nacelle
There are no prehistoric fish being added as far as we know
All the confirmed fish are alive today @wraith breach
random imp
the isle takes place in the modern world, so no prehstoric stuff except for the dinosaurs and the other mutated creatures.
that are created in labs by humans
frosty igloo
and thats also why ceratin animals are upsized or don't behave exacly as thier prehistoric counterparts
left nacelle
The animals wouldn't be able to survive if the were created to be exactly like their prehistoric counterparts because a lot of them never even lived with each other. So they need to be specially created to fit the niches AE needed them to fit. Hence why Beipiao is so aquatic and why Spino looks so monstrous
pulsar lake
I'm not a fan of nocturnal acro and large in general (even my own Torvosaurus suggestion, imo it was unbalanced as fuck)
So, I'm coming back on Acro tackler
The Acro's tackle is different from grapple and pounce from Allo and Utah : it is meant to break bones.
Acro could catch its prey with his arms and then fall over them, breaking their ribs and so giving them respiratory problems : nerfing their stamina recovery and giving them exhaustion quickly.
Of course, it will cost a good amount of stamina and if acro fails, it breaks its own ribs.
safe galleon
@high atlas that's already a thing
high atlas
wraith breach
@left nacelle why they dont add prehistoric fish?
left nacelle
@wraith breach Cause the game takes place in modern times. There isn't really a reason to add prehistoric fish
covert birch
@rugged condor skorpio got shrunk down iirc
covert birch
also allo is prolly gonna be that ambushing low stam midtier
With the new speed boost it got
rugged condor
ahh ok
covert birch
smol boi now
rugged condor
thanks for the reminder xD i didnt realise they shrank this boi
left nacelle
I think it would be cool if we had an animal that's kinda between apex and mid tier. We don't really have any of those right now iirc
covert birch
Sucho and acro blue
left nacelle
I sucho really considered to be that high tho? I thought it was just mid tier
left nacelle
Oh damn
covert birch
and like 5 ton
rugged condor
sucho cant fight an apex doe
which is sad
xD
and acro reks it if it bleeds it out
sucho only reks allos
covert birch
Sucho is a psuedo apex
ofc it wont fight actual apexs
rugged condor
xd
covert birch
same with acro
cobalt compass
right, but as an apex i would consider twice if im attacking something almost my own size
like in every case
nocturne sonnet
same as para , sucho is just a "pseudo apex" but it is actually good atleast i hope after recode
rugged condor
its fixed now
naa para aint taht
it should be doe
cause rn a allo can 1v1 it easily
xD
covert birch
I mean, depends on which para they choose
tubicens gets to sucho sized
walkeri is more maia sized
rugged condor
yea
cobalt compass
i hope they choose tubi...
nocturne sonnet
^^ i hope we get tubi because walkerei is just sad but if para doesent get a speed buff up to 40 or more like allo then its just really to throw away
covert birch
Biggens
rugged condor
same
nocturne sonnet
tubi para should be about 41 kmp and new allo 45 or so imo
cobalt compass
yep^^
left nacelle
A lot of people don't seem to like the new hypo rex, but I kinda like how over the top it is. AE probably intentionally made it look insane cause it's a T. rex
safe galleon
yeah I love it
would be cool tho if he just had some small spikes on his head that kinda looked like a crown
since well... he is the king of dinosaurs
left nacelle
Yeah, the old Hypo's head crests gave it a lot of character imo
safe galleon
the new crest kinda looks like bat ears
left nacelle
The new hypo does seem to have small head crests, but they don't really point upwards
Yeah they do a little lol
Concepts are always subject to change tho
left nacelle
Well yeah but I mean they don't point straight up, like the old one's did
It think it would be cool if hypo rex could gore things with its tusks tho. Even tho there isn't really any reason for it to do that lol
left nacelle
Yeah. It looks good. Except the crests are gone on that one lol
left nacelle
Eh I don't think it needs those
icy lion
like shoulder spikes? that might be cool. especially if they look like the hips
if its like kentro thats a bit excessive
safe galleon
giving rex small demon like horns would be kinda 
left nacelle
H-Spino already has shoulder spikes
icy lion
move the tongue tusks to the forehead
wraith breach
i mean make it look like your worst nightmare
make spikes coming out of his back with blood on it
left nacelle
Now we're getting a little into the cringy territory lol
left nacelle
Also, slightly unrelated, but I heard a while ago that H-Giga is in pain every time it splits it's jaw, which is why it's bottom jaw bends around and stuff when it roars, cause it's in so much pain
wraith breach
i wish hypo rex big teeth were connected to upper jaws
giga is general makes me scare.
hypo giga ive never seen in game will scare me worse than normal giga
left nacelle
You wish it's big teeth were connected to it's upper jaw? Wdym?
wraith breach
rex also scares me
yea look at the hypo rex art
where his huge canine are connected
safe galleon
then he wouldn't be able to open his mouth
icy lion
oh you mean you want them on the top jaw and not the bottom right
safe galleon
oh wait
wraith breach
yep
safe galleon
Im dum
wraith breach
i can make unofficial sketch for t rex hypo type
should i make hypo for darn deinosucho?
left nacelle
iirc, Deino isn't getting any strains. You could still make one if you want tho
zenith onyx
i agree that the new hypo seems a bit over the top, they should tune it down jsut a bit. it just doesn't look realistic.
indigo sun
After a certain point it gets past believeable for scientists to have fucked this creature's dna up so bad it turned into this and just turns into too much stuff thrown onto it
It really just looks like too much
Its a neat design but theres a lot happening there, not all of it working together
left nacelle
It supposed to be genetic fuck up tho. Like it's meant to look over the top
delicate wing
It doesn't even look that extreme to me tbh, it's just got some stuff on it's face and 2 big horns on it's lower jaw
left nacelle
I think it just looks super crazy in the art tho. Like all the lines make it look like a lot more is happening than there really is
delicate wing
The split lower jaw on the others are more over the top to me than this
YEa
That too
But like, the old hypo rex is just, a bigger rex to me too
Doesn't fit in with the other hypos to me personally
indigo sun
Might look better to me when its modelled. It just feels like so much is happening and it probably is cause of all the lines, yeah
wraith breach
T rex can kill any dinosaur whether hypo or not.
left nacelle
Well that's just not true lol
I don't see a rex killing a sauropod
Not on its own at least
worn token
I kinda wish I could see the Hypo Rex just walking around with a fucked up face almost like a living mutant zombie dinosaur that was created for terror, the bear from annihilation is a great example ( I might put this in suggestions idk tho )
left nacelle
Dondi has mentioned that bear in the past. I can't remember the context of it tho
I remember him saying he wanted to incorporate that look into the game, but i don't remember what he was saying
left nacelle
Would be cool to see that, but i don't think it really fits with Hypo
worn token
It would be very different compared to past strains of the Hypo
left nacelle
True, but I think they're meant to be similar-ish
worn token
something to do with the lore?
left nacelle
Well yeah. They're all the same mutation
If I had to guess I'd say that have increased hormones. Considering Hyperendocrin means High-Endocrine. Which is the body system that controls hormone production
worn token
Thats something I never thought about lol
left nacelle
It's something I've thought about ever since I heard of the endocrine system. I assume their hormones give them their exaggerated traits. I don't think we know for sure tho lol
feral adder
that sounds the most plausible imo ^
left nacelle
And Neuro means nervous system and Neurotenics have psychic abilities so that's an obvious link. But idk what Tissoplastic could be
wraith breach
plastic surgery dinos
ashen wasp
well the obvious answer is that they have very adaptable skin and integument, but its been stated that the previous concept for Type T was scrapped, and we dont know what the current plans for the strain are. its previous concept included things like camouflage, heightened speed, stealth, and agility, venom and/or acid, quills, etc. it was a real mixed bag of traits, and Don explained it as the Rogue to Neurotenic's Mage and Hyperendocrin's Tank
left nacelle
@barren zephyr I like the suggestion, but it kinda just sounds like it invalidates ovi. Like it sounds exactly like ovi, but better in every way
barren zephyr
well
it kinda "should" be in a sense
but it shouldnt be better than ovi in EVERY single way
left nacelle
Yeah, it is essentially just a bigger ovi. But what can ovi do better than gigantoraptor?
barren zephyr
hide, steal eggs, run
covert birch
possibly a different diet
barren zephyr
gigantoraptor would be fast but not THAT fast
left nacelle
Eh idk. Still feels a bit too similar to me
left nacelle
I'm not opposed to the idea of gigantoraptor. I love the animal, it just seems like it would be a larger oviraptor (which it kinda is)
And yeah, it would probably end up being aggressive if it's able to eat meat. People would go around killing stuff constantly
covert birch
thats my only issue'
large omnis depending on how their diets work can turn out bad
Theyll either invalidate other stuff (like if cherry had full dietary access due to being omnis why tf grow a sucho or spino)
your as large/larger then stuff and easier to grow due to food accessability
left nacelle
Yeahhh
barren zephyr
but a secretary bird gigantoraptor would be cool imo
wraith breach
idc about h type and T type
all i want is real dinosaurs in the isle to be playable
that would be really good thing to happen
covert birch
what
cobalt compass
thats not gonna happen with 'The Isle'
wraith breach
no :c
covert birch
i mean some animals are realistic other tho no
cobalt compass
thab you'd have to play saurian for realism
wraith breach
saurian?
cobalt compass
isle is for somewhat realism but mostly fun horror and pvp/pve
look it up on steam, very nice setting
to a point TI is also suitable for rp inside the server variants (semi-realism and so on)
left nacelle
Saurian has slow updates tho, due to its small team. And it runs on Unity so it isn't really as pretty
wraith breach
i like the isle for whatever reason.
left nacelle
Still a good game tho. The animals are all really beautiful
left nacelle
It's really not accurate at all lol
wraith breach
why saurian t rex has hair?
cobalt compass
thats the influence of popculture like Jurrasic Park
left nacelle
It has feathers. But they recently changed it to fit recent discoveries
@wraith breach This is Saurian's new rex. It isn't in the game yet tho
left nacelle
Everything is realistic
Everything is based on research
Even the plants alone have hundreds of hours of research behind them
wraith breach
so the real voice would the creepy vibrational one?
left nacelle
Yep
left nacelle
You can only play as a dakotaraptor right now tho
wraith breach
the t rex model above is creepy as well
left nacelle
But eventually you'll be able to play as Dakotaraptor, Pachy, Triceratops, T. rex and after release they'll be adding playable Ankylosaurus and Anzu too
left nacelle
Yeah and it's far from complete. It's only singleplayer right now too, but it'll multiplayer eventually
wraith breach
there are many dinosaurs games like path of titans
and the other one i forgot the name
left nacelle
Saurian is the best game for realism tho, hands down. Bryan actually used to work on it
wraith breach
cool 🙂
left nacelle
They used Gerry (his emu) as inspiration for the animations. He's even credited as a dev
So the dev team literally has a dinosaur on it
But anyway this has become #401510382981742593 So we should probably stop talking about this now lol
left nacelle
A lot of people call it thanos rex, cause it looks a bit like thanos lol
left nacelle
@zenith onyx I like the idea, but you basically just asked for positive feedback only
zenith onyx
i want feedback that tells how the idea could be better, idc for the negative stuff.
left nacelle
Negative stuff isn't always bad
Negative feedback can be really constructive as long as it isn't something like "Your idea sucks"
Good negative feedback would be "This is the problem with that, here's how it can be fixed"
zenith onyx
i understand.
left nacelle
Cool 👍
zenith onyx
paper oriole
Dont really see trike eating from trees unless its knocking them for fruit (like jackfruit not puny apples lol)
Stego and magy tho sure
zenith onyx
trike would eat form the lower ends of the trees, not the high ends like the magy or the camara'
left nacelle
Actually now that you say that. I can't really see trike doing that either
paper oriole
Would be a bit silly to see trike leaning on a tree like magy or stego
left nacelle
Maybe it could eat the fruit that falls from the trees?
zenith onyx
or ram trees to hte ground?
left nacelle
Or ram the trees to knock down the fruit?
paper oriole
Or taking effort to knock apples and stuff that are basically skittles to them
left nacelle
It doesn't have to be apples
paper oriole
To knock big fruit down i can understand
left nacelle
Could be durians
zenith onyx
yuck
paper oriole
Durians, jackfruit, breadfruit, yeah
left nacelle
Pineapples would be a good one. They're tropical and no too high off the ground. Perfect for trike
zenith onyx
yeah.
paper oriole
Pineapples would be right on trike's mouth level i think, good snack
Honestly though, i could see most chunky herbivores knocking trees fir fruit, something like pachyrhino or anky especially could give the trees a solid blunt force wack
zenith onyx
idk about anky i could see pachyrhino doing it
left nacelle
Would be neat to see a tree shaking in the distance and knowing there are herbivores there
paper oriole
Maybe the skill of knocking down fruit would differ between herbis
Maybe some big carnis could do it to as a hunt bait tactic to another carni expecting to find an herbi lol
Wobble trees i mean
worn token
I thought watermelons would be nice so trikes could maybe use their beak to smash them open
paper oriole
Yeah ceratopsians have good fruit cracking beaks, they could break open large fruit other herbis have problems with (and decide if they're willing to share lol)
worn token
the other thing is even though most dinosaurs already have their eat animation it would be pretty cool to see actual leaves or twigs sticking out of their mouth as they eat, kind of like how a horse gets all messy eating hay
round fox
That could promote some symbiosis, for example Hypsi or Oros are able to eat said fruits for their diet but they're not strong enough to crack the outer shell.
Thus the small ones follow the large/medium ceratopsian herds and eat their scraps in exchange that the small critters have higher perception or vision. or are just easier targets instead of the herds young
worn token
So like the animal eating the large fruit could drop smaller peices of it on the ground
which they wouldn't care to eat cause they're so small.
paper oriole
I also had an idea a while back for ripe fruit, and a perk for hypsi similar to giant squirrels who are able to sniff ripe fruit, and some monkeys use the squirrels to find the ripe jackfruits because they can't do it themselves. Ripe fruits could give a growth bonus perhaps, which is removed by eating an unripe fruit. Good symbiotic relationship between hypsi and large herbis
barren zephyr
@pulsar lake I like your idea, since rex is an ambush predator if he ambushed an anky- he could get off the headbutt and the anky onto its back which would be a pretty sick combo. I think itd be pretty threatening to herbivores.
Do you think he would be able to headbutt other animals over? (i mean of course he would buttt) Like what kind (weight) class.
Just asking cause im generally curious.. if you have any ideas on it o/
honest sparrow
Rexy could maybe shove a sucho or acro around
Possibly something that’s the same size
paper oriole
Could see it ramming other bipeds over
indigo sun
@zenith onyx I wouldn't try to worry about how old stego was balanced when thinking about new stuff. It will be balanced accordingly in just its rework, not to mention how much everything's changing with the new stuff. I imagine it'll be a fighter, considering it has 180 degree radius where its tail can hit around its body and it's been upsized to be about as tall as triceratops
zenith onyx
idk this
vast wolf
stego is essentially going to be death if you run into its tail.
new stego 3 call animation.
zenith onyx
stego three call animation? can you send me the link to this? i missed it
@vast wolf
vast wolf
no i cant as i dont know when the stream was.
that is a confirmed 3 call clip for it.
only thing that is strange is the shadows seem to bug out slightly in the editor.
vast wolf
stegos sounds are meant to be quick and straight to the point.
and its trot speed is amazing compared to its sprint speed.
but current game stuff will stop mattering soon.
this is nearing 2 years old.
zenith onyx
it doesn't have the three call animation though
but those animations there might change too so...
zenith onyx
yes i know
vast wolf
posted on may 13 2019.
vast wolf
youtube for the video the gif is on discord.
if you click the star in the upper right when hovering over the gif you can favorite it for quick access.
zenith onyx
ik
mellow seal
its over 2 years old.
if it was posted on may 13 2019 and its june 9/10 2020... thats a little over a year?
barren zephyr
@crystal dawn They are changing the AI system so it isnt a free dinner meal like you're describing. AI will be living breathing animals that doesnt spawn when you're hungry.. they will be all around the map and they will fight back if attacked.
crystal dawn
ok thanks
pulsar lake
@barren zephyr Tyrannosaurus Rex is the biggest theropod and biped that has lived on earth.
Anky is about 5 tons so with an ambush it could return it so with this attack it could almost headbutt almost anything over but it would need of its ambush.
dusk sparrow
Rex biggest theropod 🤔
ebon tiger
Rex is the biggest. animal size is generally measure by mass
Spino is longest, with Giga and Rex being roughly the same length, but Rex is taller and heavier than the others
pulsar lake
Yes @dusk sparrow, it is the biggest theropod.
Rex: 8600kg
Giga and Spino are both smaller
Biggest =/= longest
dusk sparrow
Sources please
pulsar lake
When you say that something is big it's about its weight.
Last estimates are about 9 tons now but before, Sue estimate is about 8300kg and Scotty 8600kg
But if you prefer then Rex is the heaviest
So the biggest
dusk sparrow
Because if I refer to the Princeton field guide to dinosaurs, written by Gregory S Paul in 2016, which is the more serious book I own,
Tyrannosaurus rex (robust morph) is estimated at 6t
Giganotosaurus carolinii is estimated at 7 to 8t
So yeah things may have changed of curse, but I doubt the difference is that important, few tons is huge, especially when talking about living organisms
But
Don't worry, it was mainly a joke to trigger @pulsar lake because I play with him a lot 😏
pulsar lake
On which specimen is it based? In general the 6 tons are referred to Stan.
Or specimen that are a bit older than 20 years old
wraith breach
@keen warren nice idea 😄
left nacelle
@marble flame That would prevent them from working and they wouldn't possibly be able to get to every server so a lot of servers would be left out
barren zephyr
@random imp I just wonder, whats your reasoning behind disliking Sharks suggestion, as having a mutualism between some similiarly sized dinos could be actually a nice mechanic
random imp
abusable mechanic. symbiosis is difficult to implement without having people abusing the mechanic and especially between similar sized animals.
or in this case between ava and dryo
devs already said that symbiosis will be a thing iirc, and i simply do not like the example he made.
because is just a "carebear" situation. symbiosis should be a lot more in depth and benefit the two parties a bit more.
feral adder
Speaking of relationships between species, do you guys think we'll get a "cat and mouse" at any time? I'm hoping the relationship between the Troodon and Hypsi will be something like that.
vestal hound
@feral adder what exactly do you mean by "cat and mouse"?
covert birch
Cat and mouse relationship: Getting tom n jerry esque situations for troodon and hypsi wen
left nacelle
@vestal hound They mean like two species that have a type of relationship where one is kinda made to hunt the other. I think we kinda already have that with Utah and Tenonto tho
@barren zephyr What if the parent tries to pick up the child for the first time when they get attacked? Then they'd have to accept the invitation mid way through fighting, which you brough up as being the reason why the invitation isn't sent every time. Carrying babies isn't need. Juvys will be able to keep up with adults in EVRIMA
vestal hound
yeah I would have guessed that too. I hope they release them in pairs as well gives them all niches
left nacelle
I think they will release them in pairs
barren zephyr
I was talking ablut hatchlings tho
feral adder
Yeah i feel like similar weight class pairs is most likely
left nacelle
Hatchlings are never supposed to leave the nest
feral adder
other than Deino and ptera, obviously.
left nacelle
If the hatchlings are in danger cause a predator got to the nest, that's the parents fault
Yeah exactly. That's what hatchlings are irl. That's why nests are hidden
barren zephyr
What can a small herbi do against a pack attacking its nest?
left nacelle
Defend the nest, or hide the nest
tepid gate
Leave the nest and get the hell out
left nacelle
If a pack find the nest in the first place, it's the parents' fault
Or what Aken said
If a cat attacks a bird nest, they don't fight the cat (unless they're big birds) they fly away
barren zephyr
So hatchlings are sitting ducks relying on luck and parents skill?
left nacelle
They also don't carry their hatchlings away
tepid gate
Yes indeed
left nacelle
So hatchlings are sitting ducks relying on luck and parents skill?
@barren zephyr Exactly.
feral adder
that's how nature works rn lol
barren zephyr
Well true
left nacelle
If you're born into a shitty family, that's on you
tepid gate
Look at the "New Blood" episode of Walking with Dinosaurs and see what the little cynodonts do upon having their nest discovered
left nacelle
Parents will flee the nest cause it's better to lose 4 hatchlings than lose 2 adults and 4 hatchlings
barren zephyr
Ik lol what happens i just thought carrying your child would be a cool mechanic also isle gameplay>realism
left nacelle
Carrying babies has more cons than pros. Not really worth it
barren zephyr
Well it was a suggestion anyway no biggie
barren zephyr
Thanks
left nacelle
Np 👍
feral adder
No matter how many people don't want it, devs have already mentioned it, so still very possible.
left nacelle
They mention it, but they always say it can be abused lol
Filipe said that recently
barren zephyr
Also always having more options > less options if you can choose in the matter
left nacelle
But also, more options = more bugs = less time for more options = Unpolished game
barren zephyr
True aswell
left nacelle
kinda exaggerated, but ya get what I mean
barren zephyr
I do
vestal rune
well more options can be abused
cobalt compass
@zenith onyx become a hyper through being elder is not a good idea, even if rng
vestal rune
oh hypers should absolutely not be RNG
hypers need to be a very hard goal to achieve, not something you just get lucky on
vestal rune
rng should be minimized
plus the way of becoming hyper is meant to be mysterious, that was is just too obvious
covert birch
Hypers prolly gonna be obtainable via some lore thing
Dondi mentioned a replication system which works similar to elders system in passing in the QNA stream
prolly that has to do with it
zenith onyx
im not understanding what you guys are saying
vestal rune
wait he didn't even say anything about luck
harsh silo
Whats the deal with hypos all of the sudden
zenith onyx
being a hypo needs to have some actual plausability so that people can actually create them.
covert birch
no it doesnt
pale sorrel
@barren zephyr It's a good idea, but if Baryonyx will be able to drink saltwater, and they're generally living in estuaries, they won't ever be thirsty, will they?
covert birch
Nobody except the extremely good few should be able to be a hyper
barren zephyr
I had an idea to counter that @pale sorrel
cobalt compass
even for them it should not work out every time
zenith onyx
it should should still be hard to unlock a hypo, but people should still know how to create one, with probs alot of hard earned perks
barren zephyr
It can only drink water from estuaries, a mix of salt and fresh one, the water from the sea wont be good for it
harsh silo
If people continue to get hypers no server will ever have actual dinosaurs
neat beacon
What would you need to do to become a hypo?
harsh silo
Someone gets hyper = dead server for 30mins-1hour
vestal rune
we don't know yet
cobalt compass
@zenith onyx let it go, let it gooooo
zenith onyx
it will be extremly difficult to make a hypo lol
covert birch
Make it like some area in the map that is difficult to get to, make it so ya gotta do some tasks, and make those tasks extremely dangerous
Then ya get to some place n die to be a hyper
Maybe make having all perks a thing you need before ya gotta do it all
neat beacon
Achieve every achievement then even more tasks
zenith onyx
yeah like what @covert birch said
harsh silo
The entire playerbase should not get access to them
That just unbalances things so much
covert birch
you didnt even say anything of that manner tho kai
harsh silo
And the servers just go dead until its dead
harsh silo
Hypers are a population control method more than anything
neat beacon
I've seen hypos, and yeah, they're strong af
cobalt compass
the only case i could imagine becoming a hyper should cost me ALL my previous perks
neat beacon
they killed almost any mid sized dinosaur in one bite
that was just carno
hypo rex and hypo giga obliterated any mid tiers
yeah, hypos are strong af
harsh silo
Im sure giving the playerbase access to the hypers will go great sarcasm sarcasm
neat beacon
Remember in the early days
in progression you could get a hypo
yeah that didnt go well
harsh silo
I didnt play on those early days ans progression ain't survival
neat beacon
Still, didnt go well
harsh silo
yeah that didnt go well
Not even surprised
Thats what I mean
And people want access to them
barren zephyr
so what do you think about my suggestion guys?
covert birch
ehh not much of a van v1
feral adder
@barren zephyr I like it i think the bary may need a special item (mineral/plant) to balance the salt intake
covert birch
Personally like the idea of bary being an active hunter compared to the other fishers
zenith onyx
cool
cobalt compass
👍
barren zephyr
@feral adder did you read it?
covert birch
Like bary who is prolly the most land adapted of the 3 spinosaurids ingame i like the idea of being a rushdown hunting pred instead of a focused fisher. A rushdown hunter who claws shit up, with fishing as more of a supplement then its lifeline
feral adder
yeah good adaptation
barren zephyr
Yep it happened to me that of the water xD
covert birch
Bottom right is basically what i want for bary
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/isle/images/6/6d/Baryonyx_Dossier_The_Isle.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20170420081524
zenith onyx
i could understand taht to some degree but idk if taht would the best playstyle for bary
but that's my personal opinion
covert birch
imo its best since that allows it to roam inland without being fucked over by other fishers
barren zephyr
the best playstyle is a fisher but not a camper in my opinion
covert birch
what do ya even mean by not a camper
zenith onyx
suchos and spinos will be campers after recode
feral adder
Oh yeah no camping post-Evrima haha devs will make sure of that
barren zephyr
doesnt depend of water aleays, he can move inland and hunt without problems
Always
covert birch
Imo it should be a hunter/fisher mix who ofc doesnt stay at 1 source of water
No animal should do that
aint a smart idea unless ya deino
covert birch
Yes by being a more active hunter who fishes as a supplement
Not something who specifically is tied to coasts n such
feral adder
I think they'll make deino move somehow too, maybe make the fish run out?
covert birch
fish will be in shortages n such and youll have to move
but deino prolly wouldnt wanna move so it dont blow his ambush cover
feral adder
and droughts eventually
cobalt compass
but being a costal hunter, what about fresh spawns?
barren zephyr
And the level of water will change
covert birch
Fresh spawns aint just the beach no more
barren zephyr
so a lake would dry and deino will have to move
cobalt compass
Fresh spawns aint just the beach no more
ahh yes i forgot 👌
barren zephyr
I think now you will choose the place
cobalt compass
yeah iirc there will be zones to select
covert birch
No
cobalt compass
no?
covert birch
Ya now like spawn in area ya dino makes sense to live
So deinos near water n such
And ya get airdropped in and get to nudge where ya goin
barren zephyr
Cool
cobalt compass
ahh
covert birch
I dont remember any mentioning of choosing where ya spawn
feral adder
iirc dondi said it'll try to spawn u as far away from other players as possible, to give u a chance when young
cobalt compass
i thought so
covert birch
Dondi did say we will be testing a shitton of diff spawn systems
so maybe choosing will be one of em
feral adder
ah maybe just a QA thing he was talking about
feral adder
cant wait
left nacelle
It's getting one
It's getting a full rework
It's model is like 3 years old at least
barren zephyr
It's getting a full rework
@left nacelle exactly, is getting a new model and i suggested the role
wraith breach
okay thats nice. but i hope it looks like the one in the movie
Jurassic
i like the one in the jurassic movie
left nacelle
barren zephyr
that one looks nice but i wish a better one
left nacelle
I hate that one. And so do a lot of people in the community from what I've seen
barren zephyr
Yep its ugly but i dont want a completely new one
wraith breach
why people hate that one
barren zephyr
i would like some retouchs like old allo to new allo, keeping some characteristics
barren zephyr
Needs a new model but not a very radical change in my opinion
zenith onyx
the colors could stay maybe, but not the model god no
wraith breach
yea
barren zephyr
If i am a dev i would change the pattern and make a more bulky nody and neck and make slightly bigger arms
And change the head a little
but not too much
And for me that tail looks too thin
i would make in bary remodel a bulkier one if i am responsible of its model and less spikey, only in the neck and some in the back
wraith breach
the isle made spinos and barries too thin for some reason
when spino is biggest dinosaur
strange wave
bruh
wraith breach
carnivore
strange wave
have you seen the new spino
barren zephyr
Yes i would like to see the spino treatment on bary
wraith breach
bigger than t rex
barren zephyr
About remodel
strange wave
bigger than t rex
@wraith breach WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEZE
barren zephyr
make it more chunky
wraith breach
new spino is good
but i am worried about barry
if bary was not good enough
i will throw my pc outside of the window
strange wave
weight is how size is determined, rex weighs more than spino and thus is the larger animal
vast wolf
kai the strains are going to be more lore related and I'm pretty sure that Dondi already knows how you will become one.
covert birch
idk but since they say its going to sue size its gonna be like 8000kg
barren zephyr
idk but since they say its going to sue size its gonna be like 8000kg
@covert birch nope, its going to be scotty size(13m and 8.9 metris tons). Thats the max size of rex
covert birch
Scotty is no longer the biggest rex
and dondi specifically said sue size
Nvm its bryan who said sue
"TL;DR
Rex ingame right now only gets as big as Stan, Recode Rex gets to Sue size, most other Dinosaurs will also reach their maximum size when they stop growing instead of stopping at the average adult size"
barren zephyr
Ah ok
blazing charm
While I definitely like the idea of Baryonyx hunting near estuaries, I don't think the idea of salt water preference or immunity is the way to go.
cobalt compass
tolerance, not immunity or preference
even humans can tolerate very small amounts of saltwater, as long as the concentration is on an isotonic level
you can survive on 1L freshwater and mixed to isotonic 3 times longer as w/o
or in other words, you can stretch 1L freshwater up to ~8L isowater
also i think dondi said that all dino can tolerate saltwater but bary could excell at it with the suggestion, which i do like
feral adder
Maybe a mechanic to expel salt? like the Galapagos marine iguanas will concentrate it and expel it out their nostrils
feral adder
yeah i think they drink through their skin though
so just swimming to feed hydrates them enough
cobalt compass
that also would fit for deino
feral adder
Oh interesting
cobalt compass
that is cool
covert birch
and it "dries up" quickly when not swimming for extended times
cobalt compass
i hope so, brings up the horror in survival
i need a rav video... dont have time for the many streams...
if thats a true sad magy, thanks...
if not, thanks anyway
left nacelle
@cobalt compass Rav uploaded a new vid 12h ago. Dunno if you saw it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFNyYdRcsQ0&t=531s
?
left nacelle
Youtube dislikes The Isle. Too much blood Np 👍
@barren zephyr I like the raised nose ridge, but I'm kinda neutral on the top tusk and i don't really like the tusk at the back of the bottom jaw being gone. Still a good edit tho
That's all just my opinion tho
barren zephyr
@left nacelle Thanks for the feedback, I’m king of neutral on the tusks, as well, my main concern was the lack of boxiness to the face and any good Rex should have so I’m glad you agree with the mail change I wanted in the nose ridge
left nacelle
Yeah I do think it should have a more rex-like face. It might look better when it's modelled tho. All the different lines and stuff in the art might just make it look less rex-like than it actually is
barren zephyr
That’s a good point too
feral adder
Ever think about H-type feathered Rex?
left nacelle
Rex likely didn't have feathers irl, so it isn't really worth making
If it did have feathers, it had barely any
feral adder
fuzzy rex lol
barren zephyr
Am i getting too carried away with these or..? Also improved the nose ridge again
left nacelle
Would maybe be neat to see a few feathers sticking out between the armor plates like am armadillo lol
I think that ridge is a tad overboard lol
Definitely improves the head shape, but I think it's a bit much
barren zephyr
Okay noted haha, thank you for the feedback again
barren zephyr
Hahahahaha!
feral adder
Yeah too many tusks haha i do like the upper and lower canine originals lol
barren zephyr
Thanks I thought it had gone too far, thanks for the feedback though bro
feral adder
👍
left nacelle
vestal hound
I LIKE the tuskmonster xD
but I think I am not the main community, the more monstery the better for these
icy lion
thats hyper anky, the head becomes a club so its got all sides covered
left nacelle
You mean like a shingleback skink? Where it's tail looks like its head to throw off predators?
icy lion
weaponized skink
left nacelle
vestal hound
imagine that thing just rotating
icy lion
also i love those pinecones
icy lion
bad design, please patch
left nacelle
honest sparrow
shinglebacks need to speck into the dual heads perk ngl
left nacelle
Speaking of duel heads, if a shingleback is born with two heads, would it be born with two tails too? 
honest sparrow
probably not
depends on where said heads are placed
for instance most dual headed snakes still share 1 body/tail
left nacelle
Yeah. But if it does survive past its first few months, it would probably have a better chance of survival cause predators wouldn't think the heads are actually heads cause they look weird
honest sparrow
ehhhhh
if a predator has killed shinglebacks before, the dual heads will make it seem off
and having a dead head would cause serious issues if that were to happen and it somehow got away
left nacelle
No what I mean is the predator would be more likely to go for the tail because the actual head wouldn't look like what they'd think of as a head, since it has two of them
honest sparrow
let me go for 1 target instead of 2 very close together
left nacelle
Oh true
fading rivet
About the utah pounce thing, wouldnt it cool that a couple of utahs could pounce into a big target? like an adult tri or smth like that, that actually has mass, I think it sounds cool I get the knock off in smaller targets
vestal hound
lets say you have "seats" per dinosaur
things like tenonto have one or two depending if both sides are allowed to be pounced
things like trike have probably 4
left nacelle
@fading rivet Already gonna be a thing
fading rivet
Thats pretty cool then
left nacelle
It actually used to be a thing. Back when pouncing was in the game
iirc, if enough utahs are on an animal, it will essentially be pinned down
odd sedge
I don't like the idea with infective wounds and crippling players, if they survive an attack.
I mean, sure it would be realistic but what would be the reward of surviving an attack?
If you're most likely going to die even if you survived your attacker, most people would just let their dinosaur fall off the nearest cliff, because I don't think it is fun to sit through this long healing process
honest sparrow
I mean this kind of thing is integral to dinos like rexes playstyle
strange wave
@barren zephyr eating something you rip off a dinosaur should stop or slow hunger drain, not just give food as that promotes mix packing
still quail
It actually used to be a thing. Back when pouncing was in the game
@left nacelle it was a thing, but only for shant. Utah could only pounce on a handful of the dinos
And no, it didn't pin them down
honest sparrow
Shant and cama
still quail
Yeah and cama
left nacelle
@still quail Well yeah, I know. That's what I'm talking about
honest sparrow
I don’t like the idea of infections or having to eat a plant
left nacelle
I'm not saying it pinned them down, I'm just saying it was possible to have multiple animals pouncing one animal
honest sparrow
Just let giga rip off chunks
barren zephyr
Not only that this is a game, crippling players is just a bad idea in general. Would be unfun to play very quickly.... Like I say this a lot in suggestions but there are some things players should NOT go through as again this is a game. (certain death) @barren zephyr
honest sparrow
I mean...
barren zephyr
I mean like getting sick in a certain part can work but it shouldnt just kill you
honest sparrow
Rex, pachy, anky, dilo, troodon, Utah etc exist
If you let giga rip off chunks to stave off hunger and maybe provide extra bleed sure
infections, plants, etc aren't really my cup of tea tho
vestal rune
the devs confirmed that there will be no mesh deforming, so you won't actually see chunks ripped off dinosaurs
honest sparrow
hmmm
odd sedge
If a giga rips off a chunk of flesh, you first have to sit through the strong bleed and then find something, while you're probably still being affected by the infection and being still wounded. So basically your chance of survival after you survived an attack is pretty low.
Most players wouldn't have fun doing this and just end their dinos life right there
barren zephyr
mhm, if you survive an attack you should be able to well.. survive it. I mean theres an exception to bleed but still like its just no thanks for me.
honest sparrow
A. if a giga gets close enough to your flank as something that big you deserve to die
B. Just having the bleed works fine enough, and endurance predator that slowly kills big game seems to be giga's niche
C. Giga isn't great at head to head combat, kill it then, then heal the wound
cobalt compass
a special attack of giga were it does immense bleed damage that drains a massive portion of its own stam with a high chance of killing the victim if its mid or low tier would be okay for me. but than should giga one of if not THE hardest apex to play
pulsar lake
I'm for everything @barren zephyr except the infection
I would like Giga to be able to tear large piece of meat
Would be so cool
honest sparrow
honestly even without the whole mesh deforming thing, giga could still probably have an animation where it "rips off a chunk"
cobalt compass
indeed
pulsar lake
as special ability
honest sparrow
if you guys have seen the chased by dinosaurs argentina episode, that's what I want from giga
cobalt compass
rex get the "Spine-Breaker"
giga has the "Muscle-Munch"
spino "Tearing Claws"
cobalt compass
utah already got its "Slashing Sickleclaw Pounce"
Tenonto has a "crushing tail"
Deino with its "Breathtaking lockgrip"
... hmm what else do we have?
honest sparrow
we got pachy and carno
one snaps small things legs and the other is legit a train
honest sparrow
I mean carno now has velocity damage and drifting
cobalt compass
i thought of some funny names for the abilities of dinos we already know
honest sparrow
I mean we dont really know that much tbh
cobalt compass
aye
honest sparrow
what about allo?
cobalt compass
i'd lmao if they take my names
allo gets the "Clinging Death-Hug"
when im back from work i try to sketch a pic i have in mind...
left nacelle
@random ivy Imagine how mundane getting bit by a venomous snake would be if you could just drink some water and be fine
random ivy
Ok true
cobalt compass
@loud vine sry, classes were debunked by devs
they dont want them in like the Primal Carnage classes
jade schooner
Damn, I was gonna make a suggestion to improve it without the classes being too... classy? XD
loud vine
Damn
jade schooner
Then again, being free of classes and being able to chose your equipment as you see fit for your team is better imo
some people would be drawn to certain gameplays, but everyone's got the chances to do as they please
pale sorrel
@random ivy Having something that can cure poison is a good idea I think, but I don't think water is the best choice... I think it would be better if eating a certain type of plant would contribute in fending off the poison/venom. Even for carnivores!
Sidenote: I know this doesn't have anything to do with poison, but I have seen dogs just rip off and eat grass, so I don't think something like this would be entirely unplausible.
paper oriole
Poison and venom are different though, dogs and cats eat grass to help throw up injested toxin. Venom is injected not injested
So eating plants to flush troodon venom would be weird
left nacelle
Poison = Stomach Venom = Bloodstream
paper oriole
Not sure if there even is a plant that helps with injected toxins by eating it lol
But the grass thing only works if you ate something bad, and we're already getting something else for that
left nacelle
Come to think of it, is there any natural cure for venom? I know the whole "sucking it out" thing isn't real
paper oriole
lol they could make use of the suck it out saying and make leeches heal venom faster, for more unpleasantry
pale sorrel
Hmmm... are you sure dogs and cats only eat grass when they've injested toxin?
left nacelle
Well yeah but that would further the myth of sucking out which i don't think it ideal lol
paper oriole
No they eat grass because theyre just idiots sometimes
left nacelle
Dogs and Cats will eat grass whenever they feel sick iirc
I've eaten grass before. Not that bad. Hard to chew tho
pale sorrel
Yeah true 😄
covert birch
@vestal hound thatll prolly be happening
since currently animals who are nested in dont have "asset location" on their character menu
left nacelle
@vestal hound Rather than it being easily removed, make it time sensitive. If it's easily removed that animal can just get rid of it right away
vestal hound
Didn't know that blue! Sounds cool
or let them remove the sound upon chomping the merc that tagged them
damn could be cool if mercs could always track non nested dinos. However I am already see them just going around trying to hunt dinos.
left nacelle
Yeah. That would remove a lot of the horror aspect too. Unless you make it like a red dot on a radar or something
vestal hound
I kinda wanna asassinate mercs as a hypsi now
snipe them with bile
vestal hound
then more like just annoy them and run away screeching for a carnivore to hear
covert birch
hop up on tree, merc walks past, drop some spit on em, they go blind
vestal hound
I see the bait squats already, will be the best game
"LURE THE CARNO WE NEED SOMETHING FAST! GO BOB SACRIFICE SO WE SHALL DANCE ON THEIR CORPSES"
left nacelle
Something else you could do, if you're being chased by a carnivore, find a merc and hide near them. Use them as a diversion
vestal hound
yep definetly, they will be way more interesting then a tiny herb
left nacelle
Gonna be interesting how mercs will change how animals hunt
vestal hound
oh man I wasn't sold on them before but the POSSIBILITIES
left nacelle
A long time ago when i first learned about humans I was a little upset until I realized what they'll be like
Gave me ARK vibes, minus the taming. But now I'm excited
vestal hound
It's fun to have a third party in the bunch. Kinda why I got bored of the whole horde/alliance stuff in wow, it feels black and white without the third party
left nacelle
Yeah. It's cool to have two conflicting "teams" and then have a third unrelated "team" in there to throw it off
barren zephyr
Maybe have it disable if you swim in water for a [x time frame].
Just adding to the ideas, if it isnt time that gets rid of it I'd say the dinosaur could get it off by swimming in a body of water. With a whole bunch of water carnivores/animals in water in general it'd be more dangerous.
mighty girder
Im p sure the tracking tags are planned, it was a while ago but it was said one of the benefits of being nested in was you wouldnt have a tracker
ripe pewter
why are people against the first person cam idea?
barren zephyr
Its awful... i mean youre playing a big dinosaur, how would you see behind you? Aim your attacks? You arent human so you wont have a hand either so you would basically be in spectator mode.. No need for it lmao. @ripe pewter
I mean humans will be first person but dinosaurs shouldnt be. Its debunked that it wont happen anyways.
ripe pewter
the need for it is so you can see in trees if you are playing a big dino
make it an option
barren zephyr
you arent supposed to see through trees
its supposed to be hard for a reason.. and like i said no need to implement it
vestal rune
I definetly think there should be some way to see through trees, but I think being able to bring your camera really close to your head would fix that
harsh silo
@vestal hound what would a merc gain from tagging a dinosaur? I'm curious because depending on their gains it could be a neat idea, otherwise it ain't the best
minor basalt
@zenith onyx they changed it because the old one was too long
zenith onyx
oh like gigas three call is too long
minor basalt
the old trike call was like 6 seconds long before you could attack again
gigas is maybe 4 or 5
zenith onyx
i didn't say it had to be as long, just edit it to be shorter, but still have the call
eternal owl
It could maybe be the first shaking of the head part with maybe a little smidge extra
paper oriole
If they just make it so either non biting attacks can be used during a call or attacks cut calls off then its length is fine
Or just make it the hold call while the tap call is short
wicked marsh
Any arguments against para calldamage?
trim haven
@cloud olive Lighting and weather will be changing with the update(s).
cloud olive
god i love you
trim haven
I'm not entirely sure what's planned for weather but I know that clouds will be looking a lot better and the lighting will be a lot nicer too.
paper oriole
I don't think para's punch should be replaced, it's dumb looking and illogical headbutt should be replaced. IMO para should be a cc master with body checks and a dazing 3 call with a short AOE range.
Idk about it making dinos deaf tho, maybe just blur their vision and cause sound to come from all sides for a couple seconds so they cant hear where the para has run. Para's calls could also travel from a distance to make them a bit harder to locate
wicked marsh
The problem would be, that if u broke ur legg e.g., then u would be defenseless as a para. Headbutts are the main attack every1 uses mainly and kick or stomp is just a situational attack. Would it be better if both would keep and the call would just be added as a third attack, as it is in puert?
Blindness or blurness will be probaply a feature for spitting dinos like hypsi or somth like that and I dont really understand why u start losing eyesight by hearing a loud noise :D. I think deafness would be great. Just a small durating long "peep" which is overlaying all other sounds might nice. I hope u know what I mean with that "peep" :D
I agree with traveling distance.
paper oriole
Eh headbutt could be available with a broken leg I suppose, just not normally. It looks stupid as hell lol
Like hey let me bump you with my round hollow horn
wicked marsh
agree XD
vestal hound
@harsh silo
Could be a Mission they have to complete. Tag Assets that are not yet registered in inventory.
Depending on what they are supposed to do on the Island tag them for a researcher that wants to study their movements.
Maybe untagged animals can "escape" the island? Better make sure they are held here like the rest.
Could be GPS stuff tracking larger carnivores and working around them rather than running into them seems like a good Idea if you are not currently decked out in the best gear.
left nacelle
@quaint pewter Dondi said that in the future you will be able to customize part your body. The example he gave was being able to choose the shape of Trike's horns
quaint pewter
thanks mate
left nacelle
Np! 👍
left nacelle
@sharp wedge Territory isn't something that's really necessary. Plus being able to smell something and tell what created it really takes away from the horror aspect
paper oriole
lol "dinosaur race"
left nacelle
Oh yeah I didn't even notice that lol. Dinosaurs don't have races
Dinosauria is a clade. In that clade is different groups of animals, including birds. Which then includes different species
stark solstice
i like the idea of @barren zephyr of baryonix, but u know that if they put the acuatic animal, bary can be a easy meal
barren zephyr
Huh?
Bary is well adapted to land and not to swim, he can evade bigger aquatic dinos like spino or sucho and cant chase things like beipi throught the water
quaint pewter
spinosaurus is the most aquatic out of sucho and bary
spinosaurus is actually the only aquatic dinosaur we know of
feral adder
I had an idea for mercs: a "Bioradar", a sensor that u can loot out of science facilities. It sends a blip out on your mini map, detecting lifeforms within a certain radius, but the ping makes a loud sound, and it has a decently long cooldown. i feel like it would give a good little cat and mouse chase between mercs and dinos
harsh silo
@vestal hound Seems interesting but I recall paradym mentioning there won't be any type of quest/objectives, you set your own objectives, scavenge here, go there... Basically surviving. Again, its a cool concept nonetheless
vestal hound
ah who knows, maybe they change their mind later if they decide it fits the concept. It may keep bored mercs from throwing themselves at dinos
indigo sun
Dont see how that's a relevant topic for this channel
wraith breach
Sorry wrong place
vast wolf
we are already getting beipiao and minmi might end up being semi aquatic. ava suits the warthog role more tbh.
ashen wasp
^^^ imo itd be just a bit too much of a stretch slapping ava with a semiaquatic role when it doesnt seem remotely adapted for it, minmi would be a better fit
sharp wedge
@left nacelle in a certain way, yes and no. I agree that it's certainly not necessary, but imagine walking past a pile of poop and realizing that you just walked into rex territory as a Herbivore for example. I can't see how that would negatively affect the horror aspect - I'd find that quite frightening imo. And yes races was certainly the wrong word, but you might consider that not only native English speakers enjoy this game before making fun of such a minor vocabulary mistake.
paper oriole
Not really scary if you know the rex is there, also no poop please lol
Its scarier to see big tracks, remains of previous kills, and wondering what caused it
honest sparrow
Kind of removes most chances of a Dino ambushing you if you smell carni poop
paper oriole
Not sniffing rex poop and knowing to gtfo of the area
safe galleon
and also then you would know something was there instead of it suprising you
honest sparrow
Same problem I have with the territory alert idea
It removes survival and skill from the survival game
paper oriole
Seems that territories could also make things harder for the players since smaller dinos would just avoid the area and you'd have less to hunt
Rather than everybody being at full risk always not knowing what's hiding behind the bushes
cobalt compass
iirc dondi mentioned markings (poop, dung, scat, shit... whatever suits your level of maturity best) could be possible in the future
if this is integrated into territories... well maybe🤷♂️
or it could be just a way to tell you you've been eating too much/wrong things
honest sparrow
I think he mentioned it to dick over afk players
paper oriole
poop mechanic to screw over afk players reminds me of that terrible 'mild diarrhea' suggestion
would honestly be hilarious if it happens
cobalt compass
and could be scented from far far away to make it even worse
like from the edge of renderdistance
left nacelle
@sharp wedge I wasn't trying to make fun of the mistake, my intention was to correct it. So, I'm sorry. But it would be more terrifying to hear stomping or something rather than seeing something left behind by the rex. And any sort of poop or pee or anything is a big no because there's a lot of weird people in this community that will end up doing weird things with it. And it would make it harder for carnivores to hunt if things can immediately tell they're there, and if the territory thing is voluntary (like you choose whether to leave a mark or not) then no one's gonna use it because that would give away their position
sharp wedge
The idea was that it would be voluntary, solely as an act of marking like a real animal would do. So if you find markings of 3 rexes, you know better not to trespass. I agree if the Dino does it randomly it could screw your tactics. And people making big fun out of sh#tting other people's nest and so on certainly would be a thing. 😂 BTW isn't vomiting coming to the game? I saw some pics of a puking raptor - has it any gameplay use or does it just happen because you ate sth wrong?
honest sparrow
na it's coming
left nacelle
Vomiting will happen when you eat rotten meat, when you over eat, or when you eat toxic things. If you vomit, that means you're sick and being sick will effect your hunger, water, stamina, and damage output
left nacelle
@left storm
vast wolf
but how it torvo unique aside from just being an allo that plays like a sucho that cant fish well?
left storm
well i tried
covert birch
@narrow whale cerato is gonna prolly be shrinking due to the fact max irl sizes are confirmed
mighty girder
^^
narrow whale
how big is certa irl=
mighty girder
Everythings gonna be balanced on a new scale too so it should end up more satisfying
left nacelle
Yeah cerato is way too big in game currently. It's like utah's height irl
covert birch
1000 kg
narrow whale
whattt
covert birch
left nacelle
Cerato's gonna be a scavenger. It isn't meant to fight everything
narrow whale
I've always thought it was a little smaller than rex
mighty girder
nah its waaaaaaaaaay smaller
narrow whale
waw ty i've learned something new
paper crag
Can we get a update now to make the final launch date have a small patch to download and allowing everyone to get the bulk of the update down beforehand
left nacelle
I don't think updates work that way @paper crag
mighty girder
wouldnt work as they still have bugs to fix in current version
paper crag
Update now patch and launch on the needed date
mighty girder
so you'd end up having to download over top of it anyways
its not something thats sitting there staticly
left nacelle
@paper crag If they were to release a big update now but not let you play it, then the current game would be unplayable
mighty girder
also that
paper crag
Better than a 4 hour update time lol
mighty girder
I doubt it'll take that long
left nacelle
Who said it was gonna be 4 hours??
mighty girder
unless your internet is surprisingly awful
indigo sun
Just let them release the update how they plan to
Unless youve got mega shit internet you shouldnt be waiting 4 hours
mighty girder
I honestly can't imagine envirma taking any longer then current game takes to install
left nacelle
They literally can't do what you said to do anyway. That's not physically possible without removing the current game
Plus it would use up time that they could be using for fixing stuff
mighty girder
@vale ridge more advanced server options are coming down the line
idk how much of a priority it is but its something theyve talked about a lot
vale ridge
yea it seems like it would be not hard
just have knobs that you can tweak values for
i was playing last night and i was like man i really want to hunt this guy
mighty girder
I mean
vale ridge
wait im at 95% hunger on an adult allo im going to be sitting on this body for a year
mighty girder
eh fair enough I guess
vale ridge
game balance will change with the new AI system tho so we'll see
because dondi even said on stream the way its done now is a dumb makeshift way to not let people starve
but even as an adult giga now i never have to worry about starving because if i sit around long enough avas will spawn till im stuffed
when worrying about finding food is like the #1 challenge in a survival game and would have been irl
the game would be more fun and immersive imo if the dynamic of hunting players was more "kill or starve" rather than fighting just for the fun of it but you could easily find food regardless
left nacelle
@plucky widget Devs have already said no to that
left nacelle
Programming issues
plucky widget
oh oof
left nacelle
And it could be abused. A mother deino could just drown her babies
plucky widget
the drown one yeah
cobalt compass
or trolling them to spend eternity in her mouth locked away
plucky widget
now they can get out
when they want
also cant over protect since she cant bie
bite
vast wolf
having enhanced scent range is not a unique ability. rex and likely anky will have some of the strongest scent in the game.
cobalt compass
rex definitly mentioned by dondi
honest sparrow
get this
carno has velocity damage now
so this ability legit wouldn't make any sense
honest sparrow
na
there was a suggestion about carno grabbing small things by the neck and pinning them with it's feet
paper oriole
“Rex herds” lol
neat beacon
Why can’t we just have as many people in our pack as we want
Just kick them out or split up if it becomes too hard to find food for everyone
vast wolf
if you dont like massive "rex herds" play galli or carno. they wont catch you.
chrome adder
No the thing is the devs try to make the game more realistic in a sense and Dondi himself said, he didn’t want there to be tons of rexes running around. You can play on a modified server if you want Rex Herdes, but the base game is going more in the direction of an immersive game rather then pure sandbox
honest sparrow
I mean, packing up as a Rex shouldn’t be disadvantageous
left nacelle
I think it should
honest sparrow
It’s more along how much food you all are getting
left nacelle
Rexes should be solitary
chrome adder
Why shouldn’t it be disadvantageous?
honest sparrow
And how many rexes are around in the first place
left nacelle
Not saying rexes shouldn't ever be near each other, but it should be hard for two adult rexes to surive together
honest sparrow
Yes let’s punish people in an online game for grouping up with members of their own species
chrome adder
No Rexes adults are no team hunters and even if you restrict the food, players are still gonna do Rex Herdes without rules
honest sparrow
Me when rex may have hunted in family units
chrome adder
No if you choose to play a solitary animal, that is what you choose. It’s not fun if you have Rex swarms for other players
I said adults
left nacelle
Family units is different. That's not multiple adult rexes. That an adult and some younger ones
honest sparrow
With new systems in place, apexes will be less common and harder to grow anyway
chrome adder
Not sub-adults which probably have
vestal rune
apex packs can break the game, the only apex pack there should be is gigas hunting sauropods
honest sparrow
Especially with how few slots there are in comparison to now
left nacelle
As you grow older as a rex, you should be encouraged to become solitary
chrome adder
Yeah and a system like reduced smell would do that
honest sparrow
Why reduced smell of all things
zenith onyx
why do you think pteradon that semi aquativ ava is not necassarilly needed?
chrome adder
Just imagine if you have large amounts of animals they will cover everything up with their smell
It’s an easy solution to the problem
indigo sun
Isnt rex supposed to have a better range of smell with the new system?
left nacelle
Rex is supposed to have the best smell
vestal rune
maybe intended pack hunters should have that to a lesser effect
chrome adder
But not if you have five adult rexes with their own smell to assert dominance
honest sparrow
A. Ava is not built at all for the water
B. Why make Ava semi aquatic instead of something that could use it like idk, koreacerstops
C. There are multiple other options for Ava to take
chrome adder
Yeah that was my idea isle merch
barren zephyr
I agree with Ptera.... just doesnt make sense
chrome adder
You have to make it variable by the amount of usual group members
vestal rune
ye but I think it should be about the smell signature you leave
zenith onyx
what sort of options? V1 had excellent example of how capybara is as fat as ever but is faster then most animals in hte amazon river
ava could be the same
vestal rune
if you're in a huge group then everyone should be able to smell you from miles away
honest sparrow
Mountain goat Ava, runnner Ava, warthog Ava, hell even demon Ava
chrome adder
Yes that’s partially what I mean merch
left nacelle
Warthog ava actually sounds pog
zenith onyx
ava runner? htat will never work
barren zephyr
why not
zenith onyx
mountain ava couldn't work because pachy is doing that
left nacelle
Pachy's not doing that
zenith onyx
yes
left nacelle
People want that but it isn't confirmed
chrome adder
Look, you are getting worse smell if you are less hungry and if you are to many people you cannot smell anything else as well
barren zephyr
why cant there be more mountain goat animals ?
honest sparrow
Yeah pachy isn’t doing that
zenith onyx
isn't? maybe hasn't yet
honest sparrow
It’s just a heavily wanted concept
barren zephyr
There can be more than one mountain goat animal tbh, like there will be more swimmers like spino, deino, beipi, etc..
More animals will have jumps like utah in near future and more burrowing animals like dryos and stuff that can raid it.
left nacelle
Yeah but those swimmers all do different things
vestal rune
aquatic isn't as specific of a niche than mountain goat
barren zephyr
They do, I am just bringing up that there can be same dinosaurs that have the same ability/ which could have 100% different playstyle.
chrome adder
The problem with mountain goat is that you would basically play single player...
vestal rune
why would it be singleplayer?
left nacelle
Not really, Alpha. Pteras will be in the mountains, along with other animals
chrome adder
You sit in the mountains were nothing can get you idk