lol, htey'll be the new annoying utah players who pick fights with everybody.
#general-feedback-discussion
zenith onyx
barren zephyr
And ptera cleaning teeth?
feral adder
nope thats troods with the whole "tail biting" behaviour
barren zephyr
And velo AI?
feral adder
So much AI....
barren zephyr
Imagine that theyre about of cleaning gigas teeth and they start killing his juvis 
feral adder
there should def be an option for the bigger animal to just chomp lmao
sudden hinge
I don’t think dilo needs a size change
barren zephyr
there should def be an option for the bigger animal to just chomp lmao
@feral adder XDDDDDDD poor compys
feral adder
sudden hinge
Like if novas size charts are accurate which they are dilo will already be the size of that sub species of dilo suggested
barren zephyr
and...
feral adder
I agree and theyre getting venom
zenith onyx
huh? sub species of dilo?
barren zephyr
what do you think about my austro idea?
zenith onyx
it was good
honest sparrow
Hypsi already has puke so eh
barren zephyr
XD
honest sparrow
Also otter Austro is better imo
barren zephyr
I was there Gandalf. I was there 3000 yeas ago
Austro in progression in region 2 i mean
honest sparrow
I mean Austro’s speed is fine as well imo, it’s faster than Utah on land, and for sure in the water, but it just packs less of a punch
barren zephyr
Yeah but austro should be better in water and utah better in land
feral adder
on a totally different note, you guys think megalania will sniff or use its tongue to taste the air like a komodo?
barren zephyr
tongue will be better in my opinion
honest sparrow
Austro functions best as a small prey hunter and fisher, it’s not better than Utah on land, but it has to be able to compete on land against the now far speedier roster
feral adder
oh yeah isnt allo getting a speed boost?
pulsar lake
Velo is a way bigger than Compsognathus and can be a real threat to young animals. Compsognathus are pure scavenger and could only hunt insect or smaller animals.
I don't see the point for Pteranodon, Pteranodon is Dryo sized.
harsh silo
@void sundial Preening will be a thing
pulsar lake
Also Pteranodon is more likely a fisher/scavenger.
Preening will be a thing and I think that some stuff that you don't do should be a powerful nerf like you were saying, Nahivulka.
barren zephyr
Allo is getting speed buff from 34 to 55 base speed
sudden hinge
Astro suggestion was fine but that dilo one was like wtf lol
barren zephyr
I want austro in survival, do old isle players remeber it?
feral adder
Oh scary so they can run down pmuch anything now lol
feral adder
so there's some hope lol
sudden hinge
All of the roster except pue is being added to survival
barren zephyr
But i wish austro first
sudden hinge
Where are these speed buffs coming from I haven’t heard anything on that lol
barren zephyr
Yeah theyre increasing all speed(walk,trot and sprint) and resucing stam
sudden hinge
Okay who said that
feral adder
also bleed does stam damage and theres loads of other situational debuffs
lusty stratus
But they haven’t mentioned precise speed stats have they? And even if they have, that is definitely subject to change lol
sudden hinge
Agreed with super here
honest sparrow
Austro was confirmed like over a month ago
feral adder
I definitely heard about the speed buffs but just heard idk where the source of that fact is
still trying to catch up on ravenous news, im sure thats where it was
barren zephyr
Okay who said that
@sudden hinge devs
dusk sparrow
i dont think it is worth to add special abilities to dinos which are basically AI 🤔 I would rather have the cleaning teeth ability for a playable dino like beipi with deino (yeah that was my suggestion i know i am not objective)
void sundial
@feral adder is good idea?
feral adder
lol stop pinging me plz yes i like ur idea
void sundial
I just wanted to tell you
feral adder
although i do remember the devs saying that these little interactinos are not mandatory and they dont want to punish players for not doing it
void sundial
the idea of fear and emotions
void sundial
how those vibrations?
O
when you are afraid of not being able to attack but you will have more speed than before to escape
Bye srry i go to eat
strange wave
not being able to attack...
sure give the carnivores another one up on herbivores for no reason
sudden hinge
Wait some one suggested that
feral adder
@strange wave you're right i take it back lol
night mountain
why would any dinosaur clean teeth
most theropd teeth are spaced so far apart anyway nothing would be able to get stuck in the first place
feral adder
True sharks need it done cuz their teeth are a mangled mess usually
I could see plucking parasites and bugs from hides and feathers though as a similar mechanic
neat beacon
Why would you wanna loose your skin?
the thing you made to possibly fit your environment
night mountain
Most of the iconic sharks don't do teeth cleaning since a lot of those guys literally cannot stop moving if they want to breathe. Reef sharks and a bunch of others do though but animals cleaning teeth is pretty much only an aquatic thing
some mites clean insects mouthparts though I guess
feral adder
some servers have velos "peck" bigger carnivores as a behavior, as they are "removing parasites" haha i def like it as a little flavor thing
night mountain
Okay why would literally anyone want an option to only see default skins
its legit the only entirely bad thing the devs want
neat beacon
Wtf they doin
feral adder
Just giving ppl the option I guess? Idk lol I can think for myself
night mountain
oh phew okay
icy lion
yea i think theyre just setting the reactions up for others
valid zephyr
@night mountain 100% agree, and I made the same suggestion before.
The skin option should be serverwide, and not per person. Everyone on a single server should be seeing the same.
cobalt compass
but why?
neat beacon
yE
icy lion
¯_(ツ)_/¯
void sundial
What's wrong with fear in the game?
valid zephyr
@neat beacon that's 100% of my skins
neat beacon
Ye mine too
valid zephyr
some people enjoy making skins.
neat beacon
i have a jungle like utah for that
cobalt compass
dito
night mountain
imagine being visually hidden as far as you can see but to someone else walking by youre totally visible
icy lion
my skins are either camo or a nice red, which works in the red soil and is almost invisible in nv
icy lion
and then i have a bright orange with the blue detail color lmao
void sundial
What's wrong with fear in the game?
neat beacon
???
night mountain
if we get that option im definitely personally using it to have an unfair advantage and grief others 
icy lion
depending on the type it can alert players to dinos that they cant see, which isnt fair to the hunters
neat beacon
Yeah me too
valid zephyr
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401464048610312195/640147187921059850/unknown.png
yep imagine looking like this and being perfectly hidden, then another guy just turns on default skins, sees you, and kills you.
neat beacon
imagine being a juvi hunted by some rexes and you hide in a tree
you're brownish so you blend in
and they just chomp on you
void sundial
My idea What's wrong with fear in the game?
cobalt compass
what fear suggestion?
neat beacon
Do you mean it's more fearful when someone can enable default skins?
icy lion
depending on the type it can alert players to dinos that they cant see, which isnt fair to the hunters
valid zephyr
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/537266052103536650/639866357672050718/unknown.png
this utah camo skin let me hide from a bunch of allos as they ate a body right next to me. imagine them just turning my camo off with a click of a button and killing me.
night mountain
oh fear would be cool it could be a debuff inflicted by seeing a pela flying above
lmao turning on defaults for hunting is a big brain move
valid zephyr
skin options should defo be per server and not per player.
void sundial
The idea to fear
night mountain
also wait is your suggestion literally saying to make herbivores "fear" if a carnivore comes within 1km of them? lol
cobalt compass
thats not gonna work
feral adder
Fear would be cool but maybe just a speed buff to running away? We're trying to encourage behaviour, not force it with disadvantages.
void sundial
continues: it could be that the emotions of fear and aggression are only visible, for example, if the carnivore is behind you, but And it doesn't touch you you will not react out of fear Nothing else will be visible but also in your visibility open a distance It could be if the carnivore is not within 1 km, it will not react out of fear But if he is ahead and has nothing in front to hide from you will react to fear but if he is crouched and if you have something in front it will be a little difficult to detect But if Serca Tullo starts running, it will be a little easier to detect, but it has to be in his field of vision If you lost it, so did the detector and the fear will become more intense I will continue explaining tell me what you want me to fix and I'll try to fix it.
Here to my idea to fear
cobalt compass
nah
neat beacon
Here's my fav camo skin personally tbh
cobalt compass
that would erease the horror aspect and alert players
void sundial
@cobalt compass What is wrong with my idea? I just ask
feral adder
Yeah they want max jump scare from players and ai alike
cobalt compass
YOU are the dino, so you should check the surroundings for yourself
its part of the immersion
icy lion
itd make playing as an herbi too easy and playing carni too hard
feral adder
I feel like hearing/knowing calls and seeing footprints will be enough for now
cobalt compass
you are in charge of the evaluation of your senses.
icy lion
and depending on foliage collision theres probably going to be more sounds
cobalt compass
yep
void sundial
only fear will be visible
cobalt compass
you shall feel "fear" or being uneasy of the situation as the human player, not your char
feral adder
Again, that gives a distinct advantage to the hunter, also unbalancing.
cobalt compass
other way, disadvantage
feral adder
oh read that wrong, my b 
cobalt compass
np
void sundial
and you will only be afraid if the carnivore is close to you, if it wants to hunt the hervivoro it will have to be at a distance that does not detect it or behind it, since fear is visible
neat beacon
So if the carnivore is infront of the herbivore but well hidden it can still trigger it?
icy lion
detection isnt only about distance though
cobalt compass
me in your position would let this suggestion rest...
void sundial
@neat beacon no
neat beacon
That'll be hard to code
icy lion
the issue is that itd be hard to properly program that type of detection
void sundial
@neat beacon won't detect it
icy lion
@void sundial that would be really hard to put in the game properly
cobalt compass
not hard to code, but would be unbalacing the hunt to no skill from actual skilled hunting
icy lion
yea, also if a carnivore is well camouflaged it might not even need foliage to be hidden. in that case the fear system would give them away since theyre not "hidden"
cobalt compass
being hidden in plain view is part of a skilled hunter
void sundial
it is so that the herbivore does not attack the carnivore if it is pursued would be more realistic, so also the herd of hervivoros would be more realistic because they would flee if they see, for example, a herd of shants with a rex uiria the Shantungs and would not defend who It attacks, so the carnivore is not an easy target for hervivoros in case they want to chase a herd
feral adder
Sry but any solo Rex wouldn’t be dumb enough to hunt a herd of shants lol
And if they are they deserve to get stomped hah
icy lion
fleeing from a predator shouldn't be something forced on you
feral adder
Herbs aren’t just snacks, they’re given attacks so they can defend themselves and their young.
indigo sun
If a single carnivore wants to take a shot at getting an animal from a herd it shouldnt be the animals all have to run so it can hunt without issue. And saying they wont defend whoever the rex attacks doesnt make sense because theres multiple times where herbivores will beat the shit out of a carnivore that goes after someone in their herd
feral adder
Lol u ever see a solo lion try to hunt a herd of rhinos? They don’t, cuz they’d get murdered.
indigo sun
Herbivores fight back. Herbivores defend each other and themselves.
And if a herd of shants saw a solo rex trying to kill one of their own they would absolute maim or kill it
feral adder
Yup I do understand @void sundial that ur trying to stop herbis from hunting carnis for sport, but server rules prevent that on semi-realism servers, and implementing a new game mechanic for that one prob is something the devs just simply aren’t interested in.
void sundial
There will also be herds of hervivoros, for example, a herd of trikes that they would not even feel afraid that those herds are dangerous.
O ok@feral adder
So good
feral adder
I don't think i can say private server names or promote them here but i play Isla Nycta and Isla Nublar and they both have pretty solid rulesets, Nycta is a little more harsh on herbi aggro
sorry if i just broke a rule lol
void sundial
@feral adder I don't play on the island because I don't have a working computer, but I still get information on YouTube and here
I love to game but i can't play it
I have loved it for years but I couldn't play it :"(
feral adder
welp they're trying to heavily optimize it, you may be able to play it on a toaster with enough ram
Big emphasis on "may be"
@near helm locational damage is being implemented already, apparently by organ location.
sudden hinge
Herbies will defend themselves only when the situation favors them. A herd of Cape buffalo will rarely get the courage to go back and try and murder a pride it takes a number of factors for that
Just like herbivores of different species often don’t protect each other when carnivores are hunting them
feral adder
heart, lungs, stomach, dondi was talking about them having hitboxes and how they stuck out of the feathered rex model at first
indigo sun
A single rex vs a whole herd of shants is definitely favoring the herbivores in this situation
feral adder
im sure there will be legs, head, etc.
near helm
@feral adder i thought that was about eating them and you would be able to see them. my b
feral adder
Possibly? I didn't think about that lol
sudden hinge
Shants and trikes are different tho a herd of Maia’s is not standing up to one acro they running
feral adder
true ^
indigo sun
Yeah thats not gonna happen, i agree. Maias probably ought to run. But it's probably better to let the players learn from dumb choices trying to fight back than stop them from makin those mistakes altogether
sudden hinge
Oh of course because that’s the point people are playing dinos they aren’t going to play properly
More often then not herds would run from packs of carbs but that doesn’t happen in the isle
feral adder
i think they will probably focus on implementing everything they've already said and making the game a game before they put in any balancing fixes.
barren zephyr
genuinely what do people find wrong about purchasble soundtracks
doesnt harm anyone
indigo sun
I dont know
I cant think of any reason unless they completely entirely misunderstood it
barren zephyr
"dlc badd monetizing game bad 
"
marble flame
@zenith onyx sorry for the late reply but i like your idea, just i prefer it to be the rest of the number keys due to some people who use laptop (like me) dont have the f/g keys. I mean we do but they do different things for us, like f1 shuts down my pc and stuff.
paper oriole
Why are you putting both positive and negative reactions on a suggestion bro lol
void sundial
@paper oriole tell me you don't like my idea?
paper oriole
Pretty certain there will be no limb ripping, especially since if you survive the encounter you will be crippled and most people would just yeet their crippled dinos into a ravine rather than play with the disadvantage of missing arms/legs/tails
An attack involving clamping down and shaking to rip flesh only really works with certain dinos too, it would look dumb seeing an austro do this for example, but make sense for an alberto
barren zephyr
That be super hard (limb ripping) and tbh id stop playing the game if it was added
Itll be super easy to get a disadvantage like that
paper oriole
Yeah same i wouldnt want to be punished for surviving an encounter by being perma crippled until i suicided or got killed with my disadvantage
Aside from healing off bleed, venom and flat damage, you shouldnt be punished for surviving an attack, if anything your resilience should be rewarded
barren zephyr
mhm, there are going to be alot of combat mechanics but you shouldnt have to be punished like that after one fight
even since the game takes alot of time
itll be harder in evrima with skill but having perma disadvantages should not be added, itd change the game completely and wont be worth it
paper oriole
Perma damage + several hour grow times = unfun and punishing gameplay
barren zephyr
yuh the game would just be worthless. Being able to recover from a fight if you manage to survive should aways be there unless you bleed out (etc if there is venom and that added in the future/ sickness) but it should not be to fatal injuries you can not come back from what so ever
void sundial
@paper oriole but it is true that dinosaurs like some of the animals grab their prey with their mouth and I would like them to tear the skin of their prey so that it dies more easily
paper oriole
Yeah inflict higher bleed with a stam draining shake attack sure.
Inflict perma damage though? Hell no
void sundial
Good so delete my idea now
barren zephyr
the update is going to be basically a stam based fight
paper oriole
Plus it would only look good on certain predators too, cant see things like dilo or austro biting down hard enough to do this shake shit, would look good an alberto and other brawlers only tbh
barren zephyr
so yuh
neat beacon
@void sundial also just sayin we don’t need you to put upvotes and downvotes on every suggestion, we can do it ourselves.
Not trying to be rude
void sundial
I see that nobody agrees with any of my ideas
neat beacon
???
slate marlin
designing a game is complicated nahi, there are many things you have take in consideration
void sundial
I know I don't have good ideas
slate marlin
hence why making suggestions have to be realizable within context
mellow seal
suggesting bad suggestions is good though
neat beacon
So think of something that could be added
mellow seal
so people can realize why it's not good
neat beacon
And see what players might like about it
And what they dislike
Such as with your arm ripping suggestion
It’s a cool idea in general
But no one wants perma damage
So remove that for example
Keep rounding it out
slate marlin
^^ well explained
paper oriole
Like, change arm ripping to shaking it to break the arm instead, which can heal, unlike ripping it off
neat beacon
Like a bite that does more damage to a specific area for example
paper oriole
Clamping down and shaking to break the tail or arm, or rend the flesh for higher bleed
neat beacon
^
Just grab a random idea
And round it out
No matter how crazy it is
If you just round it out
It could work
void sundial
@neat beacon round out?
neat beacon
Like see what players might like and don’t like
slate marlin
also, your suggestion about the cleaning system would actually be well received if it was worded differently. For example: "Dinosaurs have to maintain their hygiene in order for them stay happy so it boosts their growth by a small margin. However, bad hygiene doesn't affect anything but growth time."
scrap the health part and you got yourself an amazing suggestion which would very much work for the game. You see with how few you could make something much better and more welcoming to read.
void sundial
@slate marlin yea :")
@slate marlin im spanish and and I translate my ideas, do you read my ideas well?
slate marlin
you don't have to constantly ping me
void sundial
O ok srry
slate marlin
but yeah, using a translator can have confusing results at times
slate marlin
deepl translator is a good one
paper oriole
There are many people who would be willing to help clean up your translations too in dm
slate marlin
it still depends on how structured your initial sentences are though, which is why using translators is unreliable
so yeah, as #buffTrike said you could ask around for help with your translations
void sundial
Who is deelp translator?
paper oriole
void sundial
Thx
vestal rune
why is everyone downvoting auto-walk?
strange wave
because its already been deconfirmed
barren zephyr
it also can support just afk walking to somewhere/ not very interactive
vestal rune
you'd get stuck on a tree, so you can't really AFK walk
vestal rune
then you'd be in the open and can likely be targeted
I really don't see AFK walking being an issue, as anyone who AFK walks would very quickly get eaten
barren zephyr
You can still run away when you want, its not like auto walking stops you from pressing shift
its still not interactive gameplay really
vestal rune
pressing "w" isn't interactive gameplay either
vestal rune
all it does is make things more convenient
barren zephyr
not really
vestal rune
just pressing w isn't a game
vestal rune
ye but sometimes I wanna quickly check messages or shit when I'm walking long distances
barren zephyr
Then you stand still and check your message. Thats just being able to afk in game pretty much. Devs dont want that what so ever even if it adds no value or benefit.
vestal rune
it adds alot of convenience though, and doesn't subtract anything from the game
barren zephyr
It may s eem to add convenience but it really doesnt
theres no actual real reason to add it besides "i want t o check messages" and even then you can just stand still or sit in a bush while you do that really quick. checking messages only takes a minute.
vestal rune
well it would also allow people to type ingame without needing to stop
barren zephyr
it shouldnt lmao, if youre not touching your keyboard, you arent playing the game
should stay that way
vestal rune
nothing's more annoying then when you're travelling in a pack and you have to say something and that makes you go behind
pressing "w" isn't playing the game
barren zephyr
mmm it makes you move so yeahhh it kinda is
vestal rune
but autowalk would also make you move
barren zephyr
but are you touching your keyboard doing that and actually having to interact in the game,
can be used for alt tabbing and shit,
ya kno?
vestal rune
you can still interact with the game while autowalking, in fact you have to or you'll get stuck on shit or get easily spotted
and tbh, being able to alt tab for a second isn't an issue, and autowalking for more then a minute is a dumb idea that'll get you killed
barren zephyr
again theres plains, places you can maybe straight line even in swamps, its still something that the devs shouldnt invest in
it holds no great value
vestal rune
it would take very minimal effort to do, it's not like it's a new dinosaur
it's just a QoL feature that could maybe be added in the future
also plains will probably still have rocks and shit
barren zephyr
just because its minimal effort doesnt mean they should add it
vestal rune
if it takes very minimal effort and there's no negative reason for it being ingame then I don't see why it shouldn't be added
left nacelle
Dondi already said no to it. That's all that matters
vestal rune
did he say why?
I refuse to believe it's because "afk walking", because that's a stupid reason
strange wave
something something moving making you grow quicker something something
livid fiber
It just seems pointless
daring sierra
EA
frosty igloo
nobody:
Me stubbing my toe 🤬
covert birch
Katniss strikes wiht a troll suggestion again
frosty igloo
honestly putting troll suggestions will just get you striked
barren zephyr
Maybe she likes it
indigo sun
Katniss gets to fuckin roam free with her troll suggestions but i get warned for a legitimate suggestion that I was trying to explain as seriously as I could manage
strange wave
and katniss still doesn't have a strike
zenith onyx
@marble flame your suggestions are alwasy funny and good.
keep it up. its a good suggestion.
left nacelle
@verbal scarab All current stats are irrelevant cause everything's changing in the recoded game
left nacelle
But.. your suggestion is irrelevant because combat will be completely different
It's like me saying "Give deino a better bite force" That suggestion wouldn't matter cause we don't know what deino will be like
left nacelle
Exactly. And we've never seen pachy in the Recoded game
It's not gonna stay the same. Everything is changing. That's what I'm saying
verbal scarab
nah fool
left nacelle
Alright, fine. Don't listen to my advice. But I guarantee you you're gonna be getting more feedback exactly like this later on
verbal scarab
aw jeez look at those reactions, man. I’m so embarrassed I’m going to delete my suggestion
safe galleon
Yupp I’m on blues side
verbal scarab
whatever dude
left nacelle
We aren't hating on your suggestion, Goji. We're just telling you that balance isn't really relevant right now
jade schooner
You lost me at the tail. It was rather ok, not outlandish. But not quite sure about it
barren zephyr
I dont know how to feel about the tail, sure its not a bad idea giving out consequence. But who is gonna give up a tail that has its cons rather than just sprint away from something big.
But it can save you if someone ambushes you
You can confuse it and escape
jade schooner
it's not a lizard
barren zephyr
If an allo lands a bite, hell even a cera of that caliber. It's pretty much game over.
Sprinting away with speed is a far better option
jade schooner
and animals this size and shape will lose what balance they have and drop face to the floor once it happens
barren zephyr
it's not a lizard
@jade schooner and beipi isnt a duck
And dilo and troodon arent snakes
jade schooner
what's the correlation?
I can't see the point
Niche and venom are one thing, amputation is another
manic knoll
@harsh galleon #401481402782056460
barren zephyr
It has a niche which is good, but a mechanic that wont be used or fit well within the balance of the game. You have to keep in mind that these are real players, they wont give up when they see a random tail thrashing around. They'll continue on to the main kill.
manic knoll
Maybe it forces the attacker to gnaw at the tail for like 5 seconds before its able to chase it again
Like, just puts in in a quick animation so mono can get away
barren zephyr
Depends, it sounds wishy washy as a concept. Like biting it anywhere when you see it laying down will cheat the predator out of a kill.
manic knoll
Mono is a weak boy, and it would have to be last resort
I’m thinking I’d take close to 30 minutes to fully regrow your tail for use?
Not something you’d want to just spam over and over, only if you are caught in a very bad life or death situation
barren zephyr
It'd only work if you attack it from behind, even then. It'd still feel like a cheat out of death scenario regardless.
manic knoll
That’s how mono gotta roll, it’s weak with a very risky life it’s gotta come up with ways to get outta sticky situations
And maybe like tenonto using tail attack you can voluntarily move your tail in a direction for a short amount of time, like in the direction of predator
And once they bite you drop it, this probably won’t work for large carnivore, but it can run from them anyways
barren zephyr
Exactly @manic knoll , mono will be a cocky parasite that gets in trouble commonly
manic knoll
@dusk sparrow sunfish aren’t venomous at all, and channel catfish are small
I’m sure musky can fight back, but it is small compared to many fishers so it will die easily. It’d rather run
dusk sparrow
Mmh OK
left nacelle
@dusk sparrow Little thing I wanna add to your suggestion. Maybe instead of the sunfish being poisonous, maybe it could be sharp. irl sunfish (idk if it's all species, but some do) have a sharp dorsal fin. So maybe if something that doesn't normally eats fish eats a sunfish, they take some damage
manic knoll
Now wels catfish is big I’m sure it could tackle something
But then again, longear sunfish is so small
dusk sparrow
I don't know what fish they are, because their names are different in french
manic knoll
Compared to the dinosaurs eating it, the dorsal fin will be a teensy little nuisance prick
Nothing that would want to stop me from snacking on one
left nacelle
Well yeah but if they're not adapted for eating fish I think it would make sense that they'd take a teeny bit of damage from it. Especially the smaller animals
dusk sparrow
What is the name for big catfishes ? Silure ?
left nacelle
For smaller animals like beipiao, that fish would be pretty sizeable compared to it's throat and mouth
manic knoll
Ehh sure, beipiao will be omnivore though right?
left nacelle
Yeah, and mostly herbivorous, but it will be eating fish. So it'll probably be immune to the sunfish thing
manic knoll
Yes @dusk sparrow silure is wels catfish
left nacelle
But for something like a Troodon eating it, it would hurt
manic knoll
Wels catfish get very big, I’m sure they can eat small juvis
left nacelle
But I don't really like the idea of sunfish being poisonous, cause then people are just gonna totally avoid them
dusk sparrow
Some of them can reach two meters and alf
manic knoll
And it’s kind of blatantly unrealistic, and wels catfish will be big threat to baby Deino and any other baby aquatic like beipiao
So will musky
left nacelle
It would make sense for the sunfish's color tho, I'll give it that
manic knoll
Heck, have you seen video of wels catfish hunting pigeons on the shore?
left nacelle
manic knoll
Pigeons were bathing and wels came up and started snacking on em
dusk sparrow
@left nacelle it depends how fishing works, water isn't crystal clear, so it is easy to confuse and mistake a fish for another, maybe fisher get clearer sight of what's the shape of the fish, making easier for them to make the difference than for non fisher dino
manic knoll
I’m sure it could come up and eat a little juvi getting too adventurous near the shore
left nacelle
Well yeah, but if something catches a sunfish, they would probably just end up dropping it and not eating it. And then they would've wasted all that energy catching that fish for nothing
valid zephyr
I hope catfish get infinite growth.
left nacelle
Infinite but not be okay. Maybe it should depend on their environment like it is irl?
manic knoll
Ehh sure but a channel catfish will never get past like 4 feet
dusk sparrow
Me too, because it would fit with my yesterday beipi suggestion ahah
left nacelle
Cause lets say no one comes to a certain lake for a long time but then when they do get there there's a 20 foot catfish. Bye bye immersion lol
manic knoll
At that point their growth just kinda stops and they can get eaten
Gar would be neat, so would sturgeon
Alligator gar get massive, up to 7 feet long
valid zephyr
it would be more an easter egg for when a player got injected as one. the AI don't have to grow
if a player survives as a catfish for like 6 months it's massive
manic knoll
Beluga sturgeon (native to the Eurasian area) is one of the largest bony fish
dusk sparrow
And it is a game does event AI fishes need to be realistic ? Some of the main characters, the dinos are being exaggerated at the size or ability to fit interesting gameplay, pretty sure we can take liberty with AI fish
manic knoll
World record beluga sturgeon was, get this, 24 feet long!!!
Around 1500 kg!!! Or around 3500 lb
dusk sparrow
Don't anderstand feet system use metric, it is more precise please
mellow seal
24 feet is almost 7.5 meters
manic knoll
24 feet.... around maybe 8 meters
mellow seal
googled it. about 7.3
manic knoll
Oh
mellow seal
still l o n g
dusk sparrow
OK thanks !
manic knoll
I just do the feet divided by 3 a lot of the time as estimate
valid zephyr
it's the catfish are super sensitive to trace hyper growth hormones. Handwavium lore reason.
player catfish lives for months and can eventually inhale adult deinos.
dusk sparrow
@quaint pewter big natural disasters take too much resources just to f*uck all players progression. I bet at first sight of imminent meteor falling, every one will log out... I think the most violent weather conditions will be storms, that allows dinos to bypass some human technology.
inhales elder deinosuchus
valid zephyr
it would honestly be an amusing easter egg which would be fun for people who decided to play as a catfish
quaint pewter
ye agree wit u gros
but i think it would just be rlly fun to try and survive during a natrual disaster
dusk sparrow
Meh
night mountain
idk, catfish choke animals to death that are fish specialists all the time
also isle catfish getting big as fuck super rarely isn't even weird in the lore
the devs want to add fucking strain TREES
jump into the water as a sucho and shit yourself when this comes rolling up
pale sorrel
@timid steeple swamp meg
I don't think Megalodons ever lived in swamps though... I think it was just the ocean in real life.
Also, for other swamp predators, they will re-add Suchomimus, Baryonyx and Spinosaurus later on in the recode. For Megalania, I don't know which region they will generally be in. But yes, I agree. Another swamp-based predator might be good, if it's different enough from Deinosuchus 🙂
left nacelle
@trim haven That's pretty much how it's gonna be. The "tap" version of the 3 call will be more like a growl than a roar. While the "hold" version is a full on threat display
trim haven
silent stream
Has there ever been a discussion on making a set predator to prey ratio? And what was the end conclusion of that 😄
left nacelle
You mean like limiting how many of each creature are on the map? @silent stream
silent stream
Kinda, because carnivores being more than herbivores is horrible for an ecosystem and in the game carnivores are often forced to hunt other carnivores for food. Where my natural expectation when starting the game is that when i play a carnivore i will be hunting herbivores most of the time. Also as a herbivore i expect to be meeting a lot more other herbivores but the reality is that there's overwhelmingly more carnivores
sonic cloud
Yes many times
Its a horrible idea
The thing that will balance out the ecosystem is ai
left nacelle
Well that's mainly because herbivores don't really have a playstyle right now. That'll be fixed tho, which'll encourage more people to play an an herbivore
And AI will also help balance it out, like Ato said
turbid glade
herbs basicly scavenger that eat plants xD
left nacelle
That's how it is right now. But in the future they'll be migrating from food source to food source while carninvores follow them around
timid steeple
I don't think Megalodons ever lived in swamps though... I think it was just the ocean in real life.
Also, for other swamp predators, they will re-add Suchomimus, Baryonyx and Spinosaurus later on in the recode. For Megalania, I don't know which region they will generally be in. But yes, I agree. Another swamp-based predator might be good, if it's different enough from Deinosuchus 🙂
@pale sorrel Nah it was just some humour, not serious.
pale sorrel
Ah right, my apologies
indigo sun
@rich mist AI will not be spawning around you anymore. You will need to look for it. Increasing AI spawn rates wont help you with growing when you're not increasing the spoonfeeding rate of AI
daring sierra
@barren zephyr you stole my suggestion for homolo
safe galleon
or... people can have the same ideas
barren zephyr
No i changed it
I posted 1, deleted and made a second one and deleted it and posted the third
indigo sun
couldnt you have just.. edited it?
odd sedge
That's what I thought too
rugged condor
im curious as to why people dislike the infection idea? i whould liek to know your thoughts about it
paper oriole
RNG infection would be pretty bad, infection should be punishment for poor actions
Not random chance
Like if you keep running/moving on a broken leg it should raise your chances of infection, you shouldnt get punished on top of having a broken leg if you treat it properly and rest to heal
barren zephyr
@rugged condor @paper oriole its ok now?
paper oriole
Waitwhat
paper oriole
Oh no i was talking about an earlier suggestion that had infections be an RNG factor in injuries, idk if i read yours yet lol
paper oriole
Lemme read it one sec
How big is mono? I feel a vampire niche could work well for a small dino
barren zephyr
Smaller than utah
If utah has strenght to cling on big things, why not mono?
Less than austro
paper oriole
Mono has pretty poor arms to aid him in staying latched onto the side of something, idk maybe it could work better than i'm envisioning in my head
barren zephyr
And how about like a vampire bat instead of pounce?
paper oriole
Maybe, it could have very silent footsteps and creep up on dinos at night. But perhaps something a bit smaller like rugops would look better doing that, if he doesn't take a scavenger role that is
barren zephyr
I corrected it
strange wave
ah yes a dilo sized animal will remain unnoticed as it trying to suck blood from something
barren zephyr
Its smaller
strange wave
barely
barren zephyr
And a big dino like an apex?
strange wave
they would kill the mono before it could even start
barren zephyr
it can be silent and have a stealthy bite
strange wave
stealthy bite
paper oriole
Dilo is 23ft, Mono is 18ft, rugops is 14ft. Still think rugops would work a bit better, especially since as an abelisaurid he is a speedy bastard and can make quick escapes
strange wave
if it does any sort of damage or bleed the apex notices and gets up and breaks its fucking spine
indigo sun
Player's gonna notice their blood is getting drained and the mono's gonna get the shit beat out of it
paper oriole
Also he has that ugly short face fit for a vampire
barren zephyr
Ok deleted it
strange wave
:c
barren zephyr
I will find other guy to do that
strange wave
dont do that to rugops
paper oriole
lol
barren zephyr
Ok
strange wave
he is precious
barren zephyr
I found a better one than rugops
strange wave
ooo
paper oriole
Personally i prefer scavenger rugops
strange wave
whats the name
neat beacon
?
valid zephyr
@radiant aspen Lurdu would be a good potential swimming herbivore to add imo. So completely agree.
Currently there are swimming carnis and omnis revealed, but not a single swimming dedicated herbivore which is a shame as they're lacking potential niches.
Desmatosuchus and atopdentatus are also good potential swimming herbivores imo.
paper oriole
I think plateo could fill Lurdu's role with a few tweaks, since he's already on the backburner
vast wolf
demsa is just a worse ankylosaur
radiant aspen
@valid zephyr gasp I remember suggesting that dinosaur (atopdentatus) too along time ago its so unique and would make an amazing addition for the isle.
@paper oriole But plateo isn't semi aquatic...I just want the devs to give more variety for the deino, sucho, baryonx, and spinosaurus to hunt instead of just plain old boring fish.
strange wave
demsa is just a worse ankylosaur
@vast wolf how tho
vast wolf
its a slow armored low slung heavy herbivore
they look very similar due to convergent evolution
radiant aspen
And I find it funny if Lurdusaurus was added to the game and people started saying Lurdu
vast wolf
they are very similar in appearance and presumed lifestyle just ankylosaurs were more advanced.
radiant aspen
@strange wave @vast wolf I agree....I don't think Demsa would be needed anymore since we are already getting the minmi which also happens to be in the same family
valid zephyr
Minmi isn’t at all related to desma
Desma is a herbivore crocodile. It’s closer to deino than minmi
@paper oriole plateo isn’t a swimmer. Wader at most.
vast wolf
at the very most it would be like a hippo with less ability to move underwater.
covert birch
or it can swim, like the crocodilian it was
radiant aspen
@valid zephyr Oops sorry, must have typed in the wrong name
covert birch
plateo isn’t a swimmer. Wader at most.
Platypus plateo
Plateopus
valid zephyr
covert birch
aye dont blame me
It was buffs suggestion
On a more serious note atop platypus would be a beaut
valid zephyr
Doesn’t have the mouth equipment. Not everything has to perfectly map to a real world animal
valid zephyr
Atop is closest to a Galapagos marine iguana
covert birch
Thing is
You want both a venomous herbi and an aquatic one
why not make atop do that with the whole platypus barb
radiant aspen
@barren zephyr It would be very difficult to implement this gameplay wise. It would basically be a flying taco but is able to glide which would be amazing actually. Second, its too small and the devs would need to add bugs into the game to so that this dinosaur can even eat, unless it hunts oros or tacos which is very unlikely. Although this would make a great and challenging ai to hunt down.
valid zephyr
For some reason I was thinking beaver and got confused
radiant aspen
@covert birch Uh oh, are we going back to herbis tearing down entire forests by eating the trees.
strange wave
i mean, if an aquatic herbivore is really wanted
it doesn't have to be a dinosaur or archosaur
covert birch
Ide love to see mass herbi herd destroying herds n such
valid zephyr
Oh no. Beaver minmi going to catch on
strange wave
best aquatic herbivore
@barren zephyr so you post a picture of changyuraptor, the much better larger microraptor relative, microraptor would be useless in game as the only thing it would ever come in contact with would be something that kills it because it can
covert birch
Changyurapotr would be quite the good choice glider wise since its not the size a compy
indigo sun
Add changyu its cooler than microraptor
feral adder
it would be nice to have a glider to bridge the gap between flyers and terrestrial
barren zephyr
@dense dew What about people who nest? They have to sit still, will they be punished? They still have to sit down for long periods of times and shit. Also there is going to be locational damage so stuff may take longer to heal than others, will that cause you to lose stam? Its for long periods of time soooo that would affect either of those two things. People dont always want to run around the map constantly eitherr/ stay in one place and have fun talking and chatting.
People who afk grow will take a shit long of time to grow and not being able to get any of the growing buffs either so thats already combatting it by a shit ton. I get your idea to add it more but it seems super flawed for people who want to just relax and nest.
dense dew
@barren zephyr it’s over a longer period of time, just like if you don’t go to the gym for a week you won’t gain 50 lbs. If you take your dinosaur on a little jog twice an in game day or so would be enough to gain/maintain fitness. Nesting should not require the dinosaur to sit in one place the entire time like the current game. It’s not realistic or fun.
barren zephyr
In my opinion adding stat changes like that isnt the best... I mean for your stamina to constantly change depending on how fit you are... Its just meh. If you grow a dinosaur you should keep the same stats in my opinion,
I mean thats being realistic, this is a game. Days are really long and people who just sit there like that will be punished either way
Clarify how long in game assuming it will be a 30-30 minute period again
paper oriole
i think the stam thing would be a good perk but only for growing up, so it doesn't punish nesters
but still punishes people who did the bare minimum to get to adult
dense dew
I’m not here to suggest how to balance it with exact numbers as I don’t know how the new game works. It’s merely a suggestion to further encourage movement in players. You will gain fitness much faster than you lose it.
Nesting shouldn’t force a player to sit in one spot. Most Dinosaurs would crush thier eggs if they sat on them to incubate and sitting down to be able to gestate eggs is just dull and silly
left nacelle
People would just run around in circles rather than sitting still. Wouldn't really discourage afking
barren zephyr
You still have to sit in the spot for a while to incubate the egg, and yeah what bluebird said ^
dense dew
They can run in circles if they want, will look ridiculous and make a lot of noise and draw predators
barren zephyr
Foot steps arent that loud
dense dew
And like I said most Dino’s won’t sit on eggs to incubate.
left nacelle
And on top of that, people who run around to get everywhere would get an advantage over people who don't. Even tho running all the time should be discouraged
dense dew
Well then base it on actual distance traveled and how quickly. Running in circles is voided now
barren zephyr
It depends on the dinosaur but footsteps wont draw predators that easily lmao, youd have to be pretty close
and thats just forcing people to move constantly
dense dew
Nope
left nacelle
Walking in circles would still count as movement. So it would still count as distance
barren zephyr
^
dense dew
I think you’re severely overestimating hoe long I suggest it takes to get unfit
Not if you code it a certain way
left nacelle
And if you mean distance from their spawnpoint, then people would just go as far from their spawnpoint as they possible can and then afk
dense dew
🤦♀️ bluebird that’s not what I mean at all
barren zephyr
I mean thats what people can do
left nacelle
You can't really have anything like "Doing this action makes you better at this" cause people will abuse it
dense dew
I think you are misunderstanding me. But I’ve been sitting in my car for like 20 minutes now I gotta go.
left nacelle
I never said you meant that, I was just getting that out of the way in case you did mean that
barren zephyr
It may not be what you meant, people can still abuse actions and it can just be a useless feature
wise warren
If it takes a long time to get unfit, then people will still just afk. If it takes a short amount of time to get unfit, people will just be running in circles all day for their fitness stat
There is already a plan that afk growing will make it 2x longer time grow
I’m also pretty sure your food and water will affect your stamina, so afk withoit food or water will already kind of do your suggestion since you are unhealthy and dying
pale sorrel
@honest wing Since they're doing a headbutt mechanic, I would assume they will be able to do that 😄
honest wing
Good °v°
left nacelle
@tired lance There's a ton of different types of palms it could be. A lot of palms look the same lol
It could be a dwarf palmetto
tired lance
@left nacelle You definitely could be right there - my field is not botany :/ I'll paste photos below from both the stream and real saw palmettos and see what peeps think:
^That's from the stream - they could be? They look a little big.
left nacelle
Yeah. I can't find any palms on google that look like them. The closest I can find are the palmettos
tired lance
Hmm hopefully the devs see it - but if it stays the way it is I won't be too bothered - I'll just pretend they're mutated palmettos that developed a love of water XD
left nacelle
They do look a little like ruffled fan palms
tired lance
Ooooooo that looks right
left nacelle
I'm kinda determined to find out what they are now lol
tired lance
It looks like those like dry land too
left nacelle
According to what I've found they grow in tropical places. So definitely not dry
And all the other small tropical palms I've found look nothing like the ones in the stream so these are most likely them lol
tired lance
Oh yeah they're tropical - what I mean is - can they sit in water? It looked like Dondi was placing them in standing water but I could be wrong 🤷♀️
left nacelle
These palms grow in "shallow wet soil" according to the website I found them on
He was mainly placing them in mud but a few might've slipped into the water a bit. But I don't think that really matters too much
tired lance
Yeah then I'll just leave it - thanks for looking into it !
left nacelle
No prob! It was actually really interesting lol
barren zephyr
"Sabal minor can grow in a wide variety of soil types, and is often found submerged in swamps in the subtropical southeastern United States." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabal_minor This plant in found all over the place in wooded areas where i live, it's probably the one used in the swamps for The Isle, since it grows in swampy areas.
i knew what it was because i see them all of the time, but i just didn't know the name, so here you go
they're called sabal minor or dwarf palmettos so @left nacelle you were right
left nacelle
Oh okay! Thanks a bunch!
barren zephyr
np
slow snow
I’m sorry but having alphas would be really cringe. I already have to put up with self proclaimed “alphas” in vcs for the pack and this would make it infinitely worse
covert birch
Dondi mentioned social heirarchies in packs with like each member having diff goals
With utahs alphas for example having access to an ability to target 1 specific target to gain a damage boost against them (but they give out position)
covert birch
I mean, if theres a system behind it there wont be self proclaimed idiots
youll actually be able to fight the dumbasses for the spot
And since a vast majority of the people are shit at the game, doubt theyll get to high
humble terrace
pretty sure alphas of a pack/herd were already confirmed to happen, my suggestion is pertaining to that idea in mind
covert birch
Personally, when i do encounter these types of people i just end em
yes they were mabel
humble terrace
if you don't want cringe RP alphas just find a chill group
covert birch
or just kill the cringe people
slow snow
It’s not always that simple tho, it’s really just gonna mess up some packing dynamics for me personally
slow snow
What
neat beacon
Pack animals have a social structure
slow snow
I’m aware that packs have hierarchies
I didn’t say they didn’t
I just don’t want it in the game
covert birch
either the self proclaimed alpha will be killed off for being an idiot
Or they will just at the bottom of the totem pole when it comes to the heirarchy
neat beacon
Like most ya can do is suggest an option to turn it off when you create a server
slow snow
It’s just annoying when they hover around in the vc or theyre friends with someone else in the vc
neat beacon
If the devs decided on it and agreed most likely they’re gonna add it
Just an option to turn it off maybe
That’s what you can suggest
slow snow
But muting people is annoying when ur in a pack Bc u need communication
covert birch
I mean, multiple people can communicate the same thing
plus personally ive never needed to use a vc for extra communication
humble terrace
if you've really got that much of a problem with packs having a leadership hierarchy you're hanging with the wrong crowd. then again i never really pack with strangers or people i'm not familiar with.
the people i group with are all cool about it and don't act cringe, usually comes down to who everyone trusts the most to make decisions, or someone with the most experience
i get the cringe coming from some random docktah with an edgy skin roleplaying like they're a badass
slow snow
Hm alrighty, anyway I gtg it’s been fun
left nacelle
@barren zephyr Ceratosaurus is gonna be like a hyena mixed with a bearded vulture. It's gonna be a scavenger, eating rotten meat and bones. It's also gonna be kinda tanky for it's size if I recall correctly, and it's being downsized to a more accurate size. It'll be just a bit bigger than utah height wise iirc
left nacelle
Cerato is the red one. These are the sizes we think everything's gonna have
And nah, we don't know anything about balance. But bleed in general is gonna be completely different
Bleed is gonna effect stamina more than health in the recoded game. When you bleed your stamina bar will start filling with up with a red bar. Any stamina overtaken by the red can't be used iirc. Once the bar fills completely, you collapse and die
left nacelle
It'll be a lot simpler in game lol. Explaining it makes it sound complicated. Basically more bleed = Less stamina. Losing all stamina from bleed = Death
barren zephyr
Alright alright
Also I don’t really know if this is the right place to ask. But I saw somewhere that servers are going to be at a max of 50 players. Any credibility to that?
left nacelle
They're working on player counts. In the old game they made player counts and added AI without adjusting the counts. This caused issues with server performance iirc. This time they're gonna be taking AI into account when finding a good player count for the map. Dondi says he thinks the player count will be 50, due to AI being taken into account. But that's not set in stone just yet
But they're also gonna be adding other activities for you to do. So even if you don't find any players for a while, the game won't just be a walking simulator
barren zephyr
I think 50 is really low if the new map is like 3 times the size.
left nacelle
Yeah, but there's gonna be more AI. And animals aren't really meant to be easy to come by
turbid glade
What i hear in Dondi last Stream is that cap is 50 at the beginning but they do Stresstest to raise that number over to the time.
left nacelle
Yeah that's probably what he said. I wasn't fully paying attention lol
barren zephyr
Well I payed for a multiplayer game. I wanna fight other players not a computer AI don’t make up for that
Oh stress testing
That makes sense
Nvm ig
turbid glade
if all works fine i think 100 are possible with ai
left nacelle
Plus other servers will likely have higher player counts than officials. You could always play on them
turbid glade
but 200 player counts is sometimes kinda laggy atm
left nacelle
Yeah. But server owners will probably be adjusting it in the recode. If they try 200 players + AI it's gonna be even laggier, and they'll probably learn from that
turbid glade
basicly they can make more server because we have more maps
left nacelle
@dry epoch This is the channel for discussing suggestions
dry epoch
If a very large dino sat on a nest, the eggs would break, so make it that big dinosaurs can pick up largish leaves(not able to eat since people will spam this) and place it on a nest to keep the eggs warm and baking. And there has to be a certain amount of leaves, not to little or not too much so the eggs can incubate. It will also be fun to come back after drinking water to see an ovi digging away leaves on your nest.
@marble flame It is likely with recent fossil evidence that large theropod dinosaurs made their nests in a donut shape as to not crush the eggs
honest sparrow
Me when caves are confirmed and males are being included in the mating system
Nesting I should say
rugged condor
im actually quite surprised that alot of people dislike my idea
potent igloo
I think people didn't like the idea of an rng chance of getting a more screwed than you already were
like breaking a leg is already bad but then you pop the 30% chance of infection or whatever so now you have a broken leg AND an infection out of nowhere and you kinda just have to deal with it now
or you mention being near death guaranteeing infection, in cases then where you could still escape and live to see another day the infection has now doomed you to death. I can imagine that frustrating people when they know they could have escaped without the infection.
turbid glade
rng isnt good at all
ebon crypt
I mean rng can work in some specific situations, but definitely not in this case
potent igloo
I think it would just feel like being kicked while you're down
ebon crypt
Yeah, rng shouldn't get to decide whether you die or live.
left nacelle
@heady dagger In the future males will need to fertilize eggs in order for them to hatch. Territories aren't really needed and probably would hard to deal with. And caves are already gonna be a thing
rugged condor
I think people didn't like the idea of an rng chance of getting a more screwed than you already were
well i thought of it to add realism but eh it is the isle :U
south badger
Wait is it confirmed males will be included in nesting sometime?
pulsar lake
It is
indigo sun
Yes
south badger
Hypeee
pulsar lake
Nest will be like how fish do
rugged condor
lol
south badger
Wdym? Lmao
pale sorrel
@thorny crag Haha, I've actually suggested the exact same thing a week or so ago 😄
pulsar lake
Like how fish reproduce
south badger
Oh asexually?
pulsar lake
Female do the nest, put the eggs and then male fertilize them
rugged condor
yea
rugged condor
well actually if dinosaurs are more losley related to birds and lizards
closley*
they should do the lizard/bird way 😉
south badger
Lmao imagine making a nest for your partner to fertilise then some randomer comes over and does it while you ain’t looking
pulsar lake
Real dinosaurs need to mate but...fuck mating animations.
south badger
Lmfao
pulsar lake
Or drinking/scenting paras or maias
south badger
Naaasty
thorny crag
@pale sorrel omg I didn't notice sry! should I delete it? I just came up with it while playing, sry !
rugged condor
n o
that whould ruin the game
cause someone could go to a empty server and just grow a rex
then convert it to a good server
thorny crag
no pain no gain
barren zephyr
Hey, bro... I came here to ask you to release The Isle on Ge Force Now. My PC no longer runs the game, it's a measly i3 with 4 RAM. I kindly ask if you can make a deal with them, because my friends are so equal, wanting to play. Because the game is awesome, and now with this att it will be awesome to play Tyrannosaurus Rex, hehe... But anyway, hugs and success for you guys. I speak of Porto Alegre, RS, Brazil.
indigo sun
Check #announcements.
barren zephyr
Ok, thanks.
heady dagger
@left nacelle Yay!
pale sorrel
@thorny crag No worries, you can leave it there if you want, I don't mind it 😄
frosty igloo
What if it was possible to have two AI fight
thorny crag
oki nice
indigo sun
its not bad for an animal but for allo, hell no
honest sparrow
Did someone unironically prefer Doberman allo?
left nacelle
@kindred drum Upvoting your own suggestion 
The old model looks too exaggerated imo. Doesn't feel like a real animal to me
humble terrace
old allo looks like it has ptsd
mint urchin
Will say the old model had nicer details on the skin itself. New one is like a Dolphin, bit too sleek and smooth.
left nacelle
It looks smooth until you look close. It's a big animal, so you shouldn't be able to see all that stuff from far away
torn thistle
@kindred drum That's less of a suggestion, and more of an opinion. Removing for now.
indigo sun
@random ivy "I'm sure it's gonna change its fucking appearance majorly within the next five years as Jake said which is why there's no point in remaking it" -Direct quote from Dondi on the matter of spino's new tail
strange wave
another fucking SPINO TAIL
indigo sun
Theyre not changing spino. They could not give less of a shit about new accurate findings when it comes to this animal
icy lion
also "expensive" means more than $7k
random ivy
Ok I will delete that lol
frosty igloo
so what do you guys whink
Im going to make the suggestion that animals can eat certain parts of the body
depending on the status in the pack
for example with animals like wolves what they do is eat the heart,liver and kindneys first
same with large cats
but certain animals are known to when eating prey to take the intestance and spill them on the floor
so they eat only the best parts
So my suggestion is low pack mates get the worst bits while the pack leader and the betas
get the top bites
random imp
Reduntant and not really that useful for gameplay.
Only for a slight of realism
And is not worth the effort in my opinion
The effort to implement a mechanic so complex
frosty igloo
yeah I guess
what would be nice if at least when the predators eat something
have them first have to rip of a chunk of skin
so the insides are uncoverd
I sound like a pshychopath
icy lion
we'll have flesh tearing and i vaguely remember a plan to add actual organ models for dinos so anythings possible
feral adder
i do remember Dondi saying something about organ hitboxes not sure if they're for combat/damage or that mechanic you wanted
frosty igloo
Yeah thats why I made the suggestion because I know organs are coming
Well they have models
and could do it
if they want
feral adder
Well in that case it's a maybe ⏲️ ?
frosty igloo
should I make that a suggestion than
feral adder
yeah not the pack hierarchy thing just eating organs and see if u get some ⏲️s lol
worth a shot i guess
@pulsar lake I love this suggestion I hope it's paid attention to, always thought that the Herra could be a great multi-niche creature, in the current game its just a baby slayer lol
cobalt compass
hmm it would be still a "Babyslayer" but the idea is cool
jade schooner
@high spear Baardo wants to re do the Acro. This one isn't isle official, just a side project he did a while ago somewhere around november 2018. If they go with realism for it it'd go like this. But we'd have to wait for Tap and Fred's input
most likely less lips and extra textures around the skin judging by the other new dinos
barren zephyr
@vale ridge First person is a strict noo. Youre playing a huge dinosaur with a huge length, how would you know where people are attacking you when they attack you from behind? You wont. This will make attacks for like Tenonto useless because you wont know whats behind you. This is also useless for other dinosaurs and you wont be able to choose the best attack and can just be used in the hunters favor. Not only that what would you be looking at in first person? You have no hand like a human, youd just see scenery and not all the animations the dev team has worked on.
vale ridge
Togglable, not locked. Like mouse wheel forward to first person when you need to see
barren zephyr
Having both is just useless either way. It would just be a completely different game.
indigo sun
No first person anyway
barren zephyr
You dont need to see, in certain areas its supposed to be harder for a reason
indigo sun
The animals heads moving is one of the big reasons but its just not happening
vale ridge
Or have it so your camera can zoom in basically to the top of your head
Cuz if you zoom all the way in your fat ass blocks most of your screen
Mostly for peering through trees when you’re trying to ambush or hide
barren zephyr
its supposed to be hard for a reason
maybe zoom more, i wouldnt care
but first person is just a huge nooo
@zenith onyx I dont think a flagging system would be good but i do think youll be able to smell dead corpse (not just gore, the body too)..
think thats a feature getting added in, could be wrong
vast wolf
scent will allow you to track bodies anyway kai.
barren zephyr
@patent mango 1. Rex would always win in 1v1, its better built than giga for fight.
2. Anky is getting rework.
3. It can right now. Giga is super easy to kill as trike, and with some luck you can kill a rex. I dont know spino because its sandbox.
4. Why? Which abilities? Explain please
Rex in ambushing will always win a trike and face to face always a giga or spino
@high spear acro wont enter survival, it will be only AI
You can suggest for anky and alberto that are confirmed thought
honest sparrow
Acro is confirmed
As a playable
Alongside Alberto and anky
Also Rex is confirmed to have the best smell
And Minmi (an ankylosaur) is said to be water adjacent
Yes let’s make the entire niche smell good for a small that can’t bully much
A lot of things can kill dryos
Hell herra could probably be the better anti dryo burrow carni, with velo also possibly being able to
I fail to see how an animal that isn’t adopted to swimming at all would be semi aquatic
A bulky, slow ankylosaur at the bottom of a river sounds like a good way to drown
left nacelle
Upvoting your own animal suggestion
mellow seal
i mean it was a good pic cmon
i liked it
just not the... general... idea of the suggestion...
worldly igloo
Yeah
wise warren
irl anky is so heavy that if it tried to swim it would probably sink and drown, ik the isle isn’t 100% realistic but just a thought
left nacelle
iirc, anky floated
Weight doesn't have anything to do with how much a creature can float. By that logic, a blue whale would never be able to surface
honest sparrow
I mean depends on how dense anky is
left nacelle
According to the Saurian devs (Who have done hundreds of hours of research on dinosaurs) it wasn't uncommon for anky to float out to sea
Unless I'm misremembering, I'm pretty sure they said that
honest sparrow
World turtle anky?
honest sparrow
That would be lit ngl
left nacelle
Torterra anky except the tree on it's back is a parasite
left nacelle
New map that's literally just an anky's back
honest sparrow
Anky colonies that float out to sea and form small islands
left nacelle
Like fire ants
pale sorrel
@keen warren It's a good idea, butIi would just make it an "aquatic version" of the Ankylosaurus. If there is a specific species that would fit into that niche, sure! But just making another version of an existing animal just seems a bit odd and out-of-place. I do like the suggestion though! 🙂
paper oriole
Lmao i saw dat
rugged condor
;-;
left nacelle
@proven shadow No need to add an upvote and downvote to your own suggestion. It just looks misleading. People can add their own reactions
lilac swallow
If people like the idea they just upvote themselves, no need for you to "help" them really
left nacelle
You can still see if people liked it without adding an upvote and downvote. Cause now it looks like 3 people liked it and 1 person doesn't like it, when in reality, 2 people like it
proven shadow
yeah but i think its isnt a big deal is it ?
left nacelle
It's not, but it's something that makes your suggestion look misleading. And it makes you look less credible and it makes it more likely that people aren't gonna like your suggestion because of that
left nacelle
You don't need to remove the suggestion, just remove the upvote and downvote that you put there
left nacelle
You're welcome
proven shadow
you know i really would like it to get added
i love playing on nycta but sometimes really annoyed with getting killed while loggin in
safe galleon
ok so you stay invisible as long as you dont move?
but then you could log out in a popular spot and wait for people to come by
then when they're close to you you can just get up and kill them
left nacelle
If ya don't wanna get killed while logging in, don't log out in the open. Hide in the woods or something before you log out
proven shadow
yes but u dont stay invisible forever
and when u start moving your head or such u are visible
in my opinion as I said its fair
to everyone its a idea i just dont wanna log in because my game takes sometimes to 1min to log in and see directly on 3th screen because i was logging and someone saw me and i couldnt even run away or fight it happend to everyone at least once
especially giving people who grow apex also a chance ik its supposed to be hard but i think its also supposed to give them a chance and not everyone has good internet especially when you are in europe and wanna play on like nycta that is in cannada or america idk excatly
again im asking for some kind of protection
when loggin in
I mean example: U log out in the forest and when u are loggin in the second it loads you see 2 dinos in ambush speed wanting to attack you u technically have no chance and
it isnt fair to the player cuzz he was unable to react
feral adder
next time record and report, nycta gives u back ur animal if the report isn't challenged and given evidence to prove wrong
proven shadow
Thing is yesterday
i couldnt cuzz the second i logged into the game a Full grown giga bit me and I died
it didnt even have time to record
feral adder
that's more of a server rule issue, devs aren't going to implement a whole new mechanic just for that
safe galleon
Im really suprised how often you die to this
you gotta get a good hiding spot and log
feral adder
especially as a sub rex lol ppl will kos
proven shadow
im saying it would be nice if they added it and thing is it would offer a chance to players or
a fair fight
safe galleon
thing is, if you're invisible you can camp and wait for players to walk by
feral adder
they may put something like that in future game but they're also trying to heavily optimize now so that may not be a problem as much
safe galleon
and then kill them giving THEM no chance to fight back since they didn't know you were there
proven shadow
No ur being invisible for 10 second max
as i said there is a timer so people are not able to camp
ofcourse u arent invisible the whole time
it would be op ofcouse its excatly what i wrote i suggest they add a timer for it
when it passes ur visible
safe galleon
@zenith onyx bone break will be reworked and combat won't be the same
feral adder
@zenith onyx Devs keep asking stop suggesting number changes for evrima, because they are ALL subject to change
oops sry for the double ping lol
i get your suggestion tho i suffer from that as well
zenith onyx
im sorry. maybe i should delete it.
feral adder
meh up to you, ur gonna get some timers prob haha
proven shadow
@zenith onyx Erm giga is also supposed to win if it knows how to play and giga will get buffed anway cuzz its too slow and turn speed is bad as ik
zenith onyx
i didn't say rex bb needs to be taken away, it just shouldn't break bones emediately after being bitten.
supposed to, but htat rarely happens
because of stupid first bite bb
feral adder
Im almost positive theyre going to change the spawn/log system to something tht cant be exploited, i.e. cages falling from sky
turbid glade
bb is kinda unbelanced
safe galleon
cages falling is a really cool idea but everyone is gonna see where you are
zenith onyx
i don't think bb should work on other apexes, like seriously, they have really thick bones too, rex doesn't need bb to take on other apexes and win.
feral adder
like gilbert just said, bb will be totally different as well as combat in general, and it is ALL subject to change
zenith onyx
its bite force is already op
feral adder
all numbers will be changed and then dialed in AFTER evrima
zenith onyx
after....
feral adder
yes they need a baseline first theyre all brand new code
lilac swallow
No point in changing them before envrima
They dont even have the old Code to work with anyway
zenith onyx
and i never said that
safe galleon
you saying "after..." kinda sounded like you were disappointed in them not changing it now
lilac swallow
As Gilbert said
feral adder
oh they cant even access the old code?? i didn't know that
lilac swallow
I really only know they cant acces v3 but guessed they cant acces the rest
feral adder
makes sense, they said something about not putting any more work into Legacy version I'm guessing that's pre-evrima
lilac swallow
Its legacy for a reason
zenith onyx
well to be honest, alot of us have been waiting on alot of things to change, and it never did because of delays for years. i really don't care that it is coming out in the upcoming weeks. In the past months they've said this stuff was coming out. it didn't.
so i really don't care if they say don't post this.
zenith onyx
um remember febuary
lilac swallow
Im also tired of waiting but they never promised
indigo sun
They made an announcement saying it wasnt ever planned to come in february
safe galleon
omg the february date
zenith onyx
ikt
lilac swallow
Drunk dondi, 100% realiable
safe galleon
indigo sun
It was a drunk estimate made by dondi that was based off of qa getting to test a lot earlier than they actually did get to test
lilac swallow
Way too many variables
zenith onyx
but whatever, until the game actually comes out updated, im prob not going to be playing this bullshit. i lost three adult gigas yesterday to noob rexes, using bb sloppily to to kill me, nothing i could do against it.
feral adder
yeah hitboxes are pretty broken atm ill admit
lilac swallow
So then you are doing exactly like me, just whining at the same time
zenith onyx
that's why posted this suggestion
i posted a suggestion
not whinning
did it sound like was whining in my suggestion?
proven shadow
Tbh as giga u need to wait for rex really dubble bite him and let rex bleed or simply run away from him
As 1 giga on a rex it's hard
feral adder
No but the context of the suggestion is something the devs asked to stop posting, changing numbers, parameters, combat, etc. They're simply not going to read them the second they see its about one animal having advantage over the other in the current game.
proven shadow
But the game isn't supposed to be easy neither
feral adder
Gigs are the hit & run apexes, not meant to 1v1 anything really lol
proven shadow
It's supposed to be that u need to learn tactics to kill Dinos example, u never run after carno u stay in ambush and wait for them
Yeah gigas are ambushers
And rex is a head on Dino as spino
feral adder
yeah spino rn is just op water rex lol, can't wait to see what the new niches will be
okay, is it bad to repost something if it didn't really get discussed? Maybe I'll just repost it here, but I wanna hear peoples view on it, not just a vote.
proven shadow
About?
indigo sun
I dont think it'll affect the f call
Seems to be just the actual roars like broadcast and such
Wouldnt make any sense for it to affect the little calls made when dinosaurs chat, since theyre not screeching
feral adder
I hope so.
It's a good mechanic when ur sick of the bork but i dont want carnis going stealth mode haha way too scary
iirc there was an old bug that had to do with chat and sniff and somehow you could mute your f calls, there will probably be plenty of stuff like that in the fresh recode lol
vestal hound
@barren zephyr isn't that already handled by crouching in tall grass?
feral adder
Modern big cats can do that because their bodies are built for those exact maneuvers, seeing a theropod going from sitting to full ambush would just be wonky af
cobalt compass
also a prey animal in the open field simply is the hardest prey to catch for the exact reasons you brought up. thats were the teamwork plays in, coming from multiple directions to corner the victim is essential for hunting succsess
feral adder
Also we don't need easier hunting imo lol not yet we haven't even experienced hunting yet.
cobalt compass
if anything than it should be harder
left nacelle
@naive turret Well, most carnivores (if not all) will be able to eat eggs. And it's Titanoboa. Like a Titan (Large) Boa constrictor
naive turret
Thanks!
left nacelle
No prob!
safe galleon
@hallow trellis that is already a thing
hallow trellis
