are you supposed to stay in the water as a sucho cause no one get's close if they see me
#general-feedback-discussion
bold mist
bold mist
I mean their pretty fast in the water
strange wave
herrera go zoom
bold mist
huh
covert birch
And also dondi said "you wont be swimming around like a croc" when referring to sucho
Sucho and bary = terrestrial spinosaurids
The buggers literally are regular therapods with fisherman mouths
bold mist
i thought that was in reference to playstyle
paper oriole
damn herbis are super screwed over in water 😦
covert birch
I mean buff, the image shows the carnis ambushing into water iirc
So theyll be faster
strange wave
noooo, bary clearly uses a bamboo fishing pole carved with its claws and if it doesn't get any fish it just eats the bamboo like a panda
covert birch
But again
Sucho and bary would be quite fucked if made into swimmers
With deinos and spinos in existance
Which is why terrestrials who live in the general area is best fit for em
vast wolf
bamboo eating bary is bad,flawed and should be thrown in the trashcan and forgotten.
covert birch
Panda bary is great
It 100% didnt use that big claw to hunt
It chopped bamboo with it
vast wolf
incorrect, invalid opinion.
covert birch
Makes complete sense amiright
paper oriole
bary crafts weapons and fishing huts out of bamboo and lives a peaceful life as an island fisherman
covert birch
^^^^^^
strange wave
no it carved a fishing pole with its claws and caught fish to grow the bamboo to eat 
panda bary the third
paper oriole
bary cooks stew with bamboo and fish
bold mist
I'm still new to the isle community, what is all this panda stuff?
bold mist
basically
paper oriole
):<
paper oriole
spino will basically be a polar bear
vast wolf
spino is hippo
paper oriole
he can swim and fish if he wants but also can be land oriented easily
well not really swim, more like water run
vast wolf
no it cant. its to exposed and slow to hunt anything worth a meal on land.
covert birch
What
bold mist
I'm gonna be like, the only spino just chillen next to a river eatin fish
strange wave
well not really swim, more like water run
@paper oriole we dont know that, it could swim and hippo run
vast wolf
you will be able to see it coming due to its size and noise.
strange wave
you will be able to see it coming due to its size and noise.
@vast wolf so rex and giga are in the same boat yeah?
paper oriole
also the new forests hide things crazy well
vast wolf
paper oriole
i'm sure a spino could choose a good colour palette and blend pretty decent with some big ass leaf plants
vast wolf
rex and giga wont be painfully slow on land.
strange wave
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/664914260648001555/665382653914120222/SpinoCrouchMove.mp4
@vast wolf rex has the same crouch
covert birch
Ok, heres whats going on with spino that we know of
Its gonna be a "go where you want apex" who isnt the master of water or land but good in both
Generalist apex pretty much
He has slap attacks and a possible "hippo run" (run underwater)
also hes practically ocean man
vast wolf
spino will struggle to kill anything larger than a maia dibble or possibly a para.
covert birch
What
strange wave
spino will struggle to kill anything larger than a maia dibble or possibly a para.
@vast wolf what
covert birch
Do you mean ambushing it or in actual combat gharial
vast wolf
i dont see a spino killing a trike or stego.
paper oriole
dondi talked about spino flipping an anky
vast wolf
combat.
strange wave
spino is a fucking kaiju
covert birch
dondi talked about spino flipping an anky
^^^^
paper oriole
with his buff ass arms
vast wolf
spino trys flipping anky spino gets a broken leg.
covert birch
Or, it gets turtle soup
vast wolf
combat yes kill them on land no.
neat beacon
What
paper oriole
depends on the fight, could go both ways
vast wolf
offense in water defense on land.
neat beacon
??
strange wave
thats stupid
covert birch
Ofc gharial
But that doesnt mean it cant hunt whatsoever on land
vast wolf
thats what don said not me.
left nacelle
Since when does spino being hippo like mean it can't compete with apexes out of water?
covert birch
Gharial
strange wave
you have a giant ass fin on your back tf you gonna be ambushing
vast wolf
it also dosent mean hunting on land is viable for it.
left nacelle
But it doesn't mean it isn't viable
covert birch
just cuz don says spino is defense oriented doesnt mean its bad on land combat wise
Its just harder to ambush cuz you have a massive fuclking sail
not cuz you cant fight a maia
vast wolf
i never said it was bad on land just not really able to kill anything on land.
left nacelle
So.... bad
covert birch
An apex, not being able to kill anything due to being shit at combat is bad at land
vast wolf
nor did i say it wouldent be fighting maia. it could easily kill a maia IF it could catch it.
neat beacon
It’s semi aquatic
covert birch
Thats a completely different story
You made it seem like the guy cant fight on land whatsoever
strange wave
the situation put into plan with the anky vs spino was, rex can't get at an anky, but spino could flip the cunt over and eat it
covert birch
not that its hard to catch stuff
vast wolf
in water if spino can lunge out and grab a dibble thats different.
neat beacon
So what’s stopping it on land?
covert birch
Without being seen
left nacelle
Gharial it sounds more like you're talking about irl spino. I know you're not, but it certainly sounds like it
strange wave
in water if spino can lunge out and grab a dibble thats different.
@vast wolf so you want worse deino
vast wolf
dont have a clip of it but the swamp has some deep pockets like 2-3 times spinos height.
covert birch
Yes it is
but, that doesnt make the sail less detrimental to ambushing
Due to the fact your sail is revealed when you get in lunge range
ofc you can get someone swimming
but that aint a proper source of food
Compared to actual hunting/fishing
vast wolf
ask don then im sure he would love to yell at us about this.
strange wave
but thats extremely situational and isn't a viable source of food
vast wolf
or find it very amusing.
covert birch
Gharial
Just cuz he says its defensive on land, doesnt mean the thing cnat combat things larger than it on land
Also using a don quote
He spoke about it flipping anky
vast wolf
i never said it cant fight trike rex or stego i just said it wont kill them easy.
covert birch
Nobody here said it would be easy
just that its possible via stam battle or other forms of combat
strange wave
ofc not, rex isn't kill them easy either
covert birch
^
left nacelle
i dont see a spino killing a trike or stego.
@vast wolf
neat beacon
Kinda disagreeing with yourself here
vast wolf
no apex should be able to kill the other easy it should be more based on skill just spino has a disadvantage on land in some undisclosed way in terms of killing.
paper oriole
whether spino can hunt triek and stego or not, it doesn't need to be able to kill every animal to be viable, that's not how it works
vast wolf
i never said it would kill trike or stego.
strange wave
just spino has a disadvantage on land in some undisclosed way in terms of killing.
@vast wolf said where and when
vast wolf
nor am i saying its not viable. im saying it tends to stick to smaller prey because hunting large animals on land will be very difficult and risky for it.
covert birch
Just as it would for all other apexs
paper oriole
it can flip anky, it can bully other sub aquatics, it can fish, it can wrestle other apexes if need be. doesn't seem unviable to me
covert birch
Maybe spino less so since it has a sail making ambushing difficult
vast wolf
you dont have to ping me 5 times you know we have been over this about 20 times.
strange wave
to take from isle memes
neat beacon
That’s how quotes work
vast wolf
ONCE AGAIN. i never said its not viable. just not great for fighting large animals on land.
covert birch
just click del once and the pings gone
bold mist
woah where did this discussion go, last I left we were arguing whether it was capable of hunting on land or not.
are we talking real or game?
vast wolf
game.
paper oriole
why does it need to fight all large animals on land though?
vast wolf
i never said it did.
strange wave
the easy way for spino to be tougher to hunt with on land is, giant ass sail on its back nullifying stealth to a certain point
covert birch
It should have the capability to
Whether it needs to is a different story
Since that is largely situational
On what food is available, fish population, location allowing for ambush, etc
vast wolf
no it cant. its to exposed and slow to hunt anything worth a meal on land.
the largest things i see it being able to bring down are paras allos and suchos.
vast wolf
most of those will be able to escape from you if you dont knock them down/pin them.
covert birch
And you can easily do the same to other apexs
Via a stam battle
Trike moreso then stego ofc
strange wave
why not the much slower and larger herbivores
vast wolf
allo is the smallest of those three.
because a stego or trike can stab it through the chest and kill it petty easy and shant is just massive.
strange wave
trike, anky and stego are all possible menu items for a skilled spino
paper oriole
the same could be said for rex or giga, a stego or trike could spear them through the chest too
vast wolf
if the trike stego or allo are facing away the spino cant do anything. and even if it dose they can turn and face it to fight back as it dosent have rexes power or gigas teeth.
covert birch
It has arms
strange wave
i know thats a spelling error
strange wave
but, you said allo not anky
vast wolf
thats like saying a human can fight off a wolf because we have arms.
covert birch
It aint since these are 2 massive monsters
vast wolf
the wolf will just knock you down anyway.
bold mist
our arms don't have massive claws
strange wave
and spino has tools to bend it away from the weakspot
vast wolf
im all for spino i just dont see a spino ever taking on other apexes on land.
covert birch
heres what i see
Dondi described spino just grabbing a dibbles crest and twisting
Spino does the same thing if it wins a stam battle against trike
It has to actually pull the grapple off and win first tho
A possible but hard fight
vast wolf
not as likely that it will beat trike though.
covert birch
Like all apex fights
I see it more likely then rex or giga
At least in that matchup specifically
since they have nothing to actually hold the trike in place to stop massive spikes going for their chests
vast wolf
trike should pretty easily win in a stam fight against the apex trio from the front.
covert birch
that aint really the best doc
covert birch
Especially when comparing to monster isle spino
vast wolf
thats not a trike thats a carchar and the spino dies after.
covert birch
Nor is it accurate in some manners
Such as the fact ourano didnt live with spino
vast wolf
i need to leave its 1:10 am for me.
covert birch
Like heres how most fights i see going with spino vs apexs
Rex vs spino: Slap rex away until it dies or leaves
Giga vs spino: same as rex
Trike vs spino: i described above
Anky vs spino: flip the fucker over or get bb'd
Stego vs spino: Not worth the risk since stegos main weakness is ambush and spino with that sail aint gonna do that well
vast wolf
fair.
covert birch
Shant is a monster so nah
vast wolf
trike to spino should be a 70-30 in trikes favor.
covert birch
Theri is a boxing match
That depends on how much stam they give both animals gharial
strange wave
and shant is just, a monster truck vs the great wall of china
covert birch
and how much stam the players had before entering grapple match
vast wolf
at full stam it should be 70-30
strange wave
i like the idea of apex gameplay being hard to pull off
and each predator struggling against one or two of the large herivores
vast wolf
anky should be the same in spinos favor if it can grab it but if it cant then anky should have an 80-90% chance to screw spino.
covert birch
That all depends on if the anky turns fast enough to bb the spino before it gets the grapple
vast wolf
if spino grabs anky anky should have a 30% chance to survive as it will probably have good scent.
covert birch
all of these are generally more fit for basis on player skill then % chance
strange wave
like rex stomping shant and stego by virtue of ambush and not giving a fuck
vast wolf
thats the way i take stamina battles.
strange wave
but getting smacked by anky and cama because the fuckers are tough as nails
vast wolf
rex ambushes stego. if stego has any time to react the rex will probibly loose.
strange wave
rex ambushes and crushes its skull before it can turn
vast wolf
rex would have to come really close undecked.
covert birch
With new brush its possible
vast wolf
yeah
covert birch
Hell new brush covers spino mostly
bold mist
Now all we need is fog and we're good
strange wave
either way spino using sealife as weapons wen
left nacelle
@lunar fractal I assume you play on servers that have no alt turn? Either way, this won't be a problem in the recoded game
lunar fractal
paper oriole
also, a rex or giga couldnt swing its tail for an attack without toppling itself off balance
left nacelle
And yash, you wouldn't be having those issue if you played with alt turn btw
In EVRIMA turning in place will be mandatory anyway
slate owl
I have an idea, I wanna post it here first for discussion before I put it in the other channel
So in game, displaying agression, is usually a 3 call and crouching, circling, biting etc
But with some Dino’s getting feathers and other things, would there be a way to flare them or something to show hostility
Or something like this
paper oriole
i think it would be cool if herrera can use his dewlap in his 3 call, since he's getting a pretty good one
valid zephyr
@urban gyro you need so go into a lot more detail than that for add creature suggestions.
However I think giganto is a good playable to add, and would be a perfect mid tier for omnivores.
urban gyro
well it would probably be the closest thing to an "Apex" for the Omnivore players as its pretty close in height to a rex, that said I doubt it would be able to handle predator of that size alone. I'm not overly sure on what points I'd need elaboration on though other than that, It big, fairly fast, probably one of the largest omnivores to have existed, would look really cool decked out in all those feathers like they dev team is doing for the Oviraptor
@valid zephyr
valid zephyr
At about 2.5 tons it’s very light for its size, so would be fragile. Deinocheirus is the closest possible to an omni large tier
@autumn nimbus magy is only 1 ton, not much heavier than Ava. It’s a very small animal.
autumn nimbus
valid zephyr
people see a sauropod and naturally think big.
when in reality it was a tiny dwarf sauropod
urban gyro
if the Magy is the tiny sauropod I'm thinking of then they where commonly preyed upon by giant pterosaurs
valid zephyr
yep that's the one
safe galleon
@zenith onyx that’s easily abused
zenith onyx
how?
turbid glade
@zenith onyx Teutonic server already have that over a Discord System
safe galleon
And you can scout with a small fast dino to find other people then switch to a big carnivore to hunt those people
turbid glade
but have rules for that you cant revenge killl
turbid glade
and basicly 5 min cd to switch after save outlog
last heath
aka its the classic ''this is why we cant have nice things''
turbid glade
i would love have that normally include too
zenith onyx
And for this revenge stuff, after you lost your dino, you'd have to choose another dino and play as it, grow until it's adult. you wouldn't be able to switch dinos unless they are full adult.
it would be something you would have to work for.
not just instantly get it.
turbid glade
would be fine if there is a 1 hour cd for switchen after you die#
otherwise you can free switch all time
but even 1 rule can prevent revenge kills
zenith onyx
i said it would be a while before you could switch between the two dinos
hey, it take a while before htey could come back as their other dino so they'd cool off before they could access it anyways
turbid glade
or an reward for a new slot on the server if you already grown an adult one
hasty night
I’ve heard once you become an elder you can actually die of old age, then when you choose that same Dino again you’ll unlock a genetic boost in your next life. Is this true?
frosty igloo
yep
And before you die you become a super version of yourself for a while
like a really strong trike
hasty night
Radical 
Can’t wait to be a legendary Deino swamp King . I’ll be a humble old man that dies of old age
hasty night
I love it tbh, I hope they’ll have distinguishing features that show you’re an elder, like a battle scarred body with hazy eyes or smth. Since a lot of animals develop that foggy eye look at old age.
safe galleon
Yeah elders will be bigger with more C H U N K
hasty night
Yus, THICC 
left nacelle
Here's elder utah. The utah in the pic a normal utah, the black lines are an otline of what the elder will look like
And here's elder rex
zenith onyx
@left nacelle presently, we do get a screen shake to indicate we are being attacked or bitten.
prob in the future recode we will ge the same thing
left nacelle
Really? It's waaay too subtle then imo
left nacelle
I may have noticed it and completely forgot about it. Not sure lol
zenith onyx
that's okay.
left nacelle
In the suggestion tho, I kinda had Sea of Thieves' damage effect in mind
That's the only gif I could find that actually shows it lol
harsh silo
@left nacelle your dinosaur will visibly recoil too, at least from attacks
left nacelle
Oh yeah, I forgot about that
We don't know if it'll do that while it's moving tho, iirc
harsh silo
probably will, wouldn't make much sense if it recoiled only standing still imo
left nacelle
True. But you also won't always be looking directly at your dinosaur. From the corner of your eye it might be confused with an idle animation. But that might just be me cause I'm blind lol
honest sparrow
If I see another onchopristis suggestion...
left nacelle
harsh silo
Well yeah that too, then again we need to experience the combat by our own hands first so we can give feedback on it. Gotta keep in mind they want to make the dinosaurs actually bite each other 
left nacelle
Yeah. Ya know what? I don't think I thought my suggestion through enough
harsh silo
grim mason
Well I didn't know about any other Onchopristis suggestions so don't slap me for that
left nacelle
There have been tons
But either way, onchopristis would be out of place in The Isle imo
night mountain
oncho is cool, why not?
left nacelle
It's cool, but it would be weird to have a ton of modern fish and then one giant prehistoric one
grim mason
Yeah, I see where your getting at. All the fish being added are fish that exist during the current time, Onchopristis went extinct a long time ago, to change my suggestion to something more practical, maybe just the sawfish
same thing but smaller
left nacelle
and the only reason I can think of for it to be added is that spino ate it irl, but in game spino is nothing like irl spino
night mountain
i mean, then just add the bigass modern sawfish and have it be the same shit
cobalt compass
anyone else get the feeling KAI just want attention and is recycling ideas mentioned before...?
left nacelle
Sawfish could be cool, but I feel like then you'd need to add more large fish, just so it feels balanced out. Cause sawfish are kinda random
left nacelle
@cobalt compass I don't think so. Probably just coincidental
We are getting prehistoric fish? Which ones are we getting
cobalt compass
coelanth
left nacelle
Coelacanth is still alive tho lol
night mountain
its heavily implied they're going to flesh out the oceans eventually
cobalt compass
yes
left nacelle
If they're fleshing out the oceans and stuff than onchopristis could work. As long as there's a lot of other ifsh added to make it feel less out of place
cobalt compass
but in terms of biology its still a fossil if they didnt updated it
night mountain
left nacelle
Well that's not really a confirmation lol
I think it's pretty likely we'll be getting mosasaurs in the future tho, considering they're in the lore. And mosasaurs most likely means fleshed out oceans
cobalt compass
just bryans whishlist, a good one but...
night mountain
Well yeah but bryan is one of the big ones pushing for aquatics
also there a reason devs added endless oceans
left nacelle
True, but I think aquatics are kinda inevitable. Dondi even said in the past about aquatic dlc
cobalt compass
is there any prehistoric gigantic mollusk?
turbid glade
imagening trying to get on ther other little island and killed by marine player....
cobalt compass
hard to imagine with 50 players on spero
turbid glade
yes
night mountain
chad pela has no limits
turbid glade
but depend on the server
cobalt compass
not impossible
strange wave
If I see another onchopristis suggestion...
@honest sparrow its the new yutyrannus
honest sparrow
IKR
strange wave
is there any prehistoric gigantic mollusk?
@cobalt compass pretty sure there is a giant snail
ok i found it Campanile giganteum is the name
grim mason
Something practical for a mix of brackish - saltwater environments, not something completely oceanic
left nacelle
Salmon
zenith onyx
how do i attach google docs suggestions?
covert birch
There is a share button at the top right of google docs
zenith onyx
oh okay thnks
left nacelle
@gaunt flax The next few maps are gonna be tropical. So there will only be wet and dry seasons
cobalt compass
@barren zephyr you like to live dangerousliy? iirc paradym was very specific about anything mating related...
gaunt flax
lol I thought of the idea of seasons because I can't imagine how boring deinosuchus life is gonna be at least for the most part. young adults will likely nest a lot and this came to my idea
you know 2 call is called "attract" right XD
barren zephyr
Like an ovi doing a funny little dance to attract an AI female
cobalt compass
"ANYTHING RELATED TO MATING"
that not just the animations
left nacelle
Deinosuchus life is mostly gonna be sitting and waiting as far as I know lol
cobalt compass
you can as deino terrorize the rivers
left nacelle
Well no, there'll be other things to do, but deinosuchus is gonna be an ambush predator. It's gonna sit and wait for something to come by
barren zephyr
"Anything relating to mating animations or jokes" didn't mention mating anims at all
cobalt compass
still thin ice
gaunt flax
if a deinosuchus wants an interesting lifestyle they'll have to visit the bigger, more popular swamps/ponds
left nacelle
Yeah, and that's probably what they'll do lol
gaunt flax
pretty sure the sole reason para didn't want any talk about mating anything because people suggested it too much and joked about it too much
left nacelle
But the lakes aren't gonna be huge hotspots like they are now tho
Yeah people have been joking about it for years now
If Poweralth's suggestion wasn't okay, it would've been removed by now. It's fine
gaunt flax
that same suggestion has been suggested for eons. I don't think they'll go with it anyways
left nacelle
Yeah. I've seen like 7 mating call suggestions in the past month alone
gaunt flax
I personally think it's a waste of time. if they wanted to add that suggestion they would've already
covert birch
Like an ovi doing a funny little dance to attract an AI female
I mean, the whole shared emotes thing will prolly cover this
gaunt flax
I bet every aspect of mating dances/sounds have been explored already. I really don't think they will add it if they haven't by now
why do people keep suggesting it
cobalt compass
Yeah. I've seen like 7 mating call suggestions in the past month alone
@left nacelle
im close to the point to mute/leave this discord because ppl a to lazy to use simple tools to avoid reposts...
covert birch
Like mating calls themselves are pointless since 1 call and 2 calls can function pretty similarly
The whole emotes things prolly will cover the mating anims, especially since dondi already said they doing nuzzles n shit
So at this point its somewhat uneeded
gaunt flax
"mating anims" lol
covert birch
You know what i meant by that
gaunt flax
you could've said attraction anims
turbid glade
roleplayers are happy 
covert birch
gaunt flax
the isle ain't made for roleplayers lol
valid zephyr
Honestly I love the idea of having catfish just keep growing as long as they live.
covert birch
Even tho dondi is adding a shitton more roleplaying elements
cobalt compass
oh of course it is
covert birch
and is made by a guy who plays a shitton of gta rp
Infinite growth catfish is a beaut
I wanna be this
valid zephyr
just play it for 100 hours and suck in hypos
cobalt compass
muting the suggestion channel wont help, i always want input but lazy ppl pulling my mood down
covert birch
looks like lurkers be doin reactions again
valid zephyr
it's like that game where you avoid the bigger fish and eat the smaller ones to keep growing.
start off eating the tiny fish designed for deino hatchlings
then move onto juvies
cobalt compass
to the point where utahs become snacks
opaque blaze
looks like lurkers be doin reactions again
@covert birch What's wrong with that? (Was busy in another channel)
covert birch
Just pointin it out
valid zephyr
it's AI only, and only playable on private servers so it's such a harmless gimmick
but amazing fun
cobalt compass
it would definitly be
opaque blaze
Imagine catching one of those Leviathans as an Apex... Food for days! And salmonella (carponella?)
valid zephyr
imagine catching an apex as a catfish...
safe galleon
Beelze 
covert birch
no thank you
safe galleon
I really like beelze, it’s just a shame it’s so small 
covert birch
new beezle model
covert birch
yea those be eggs
opaque blaze
covert birch
its a toad with back eggs
valid zephyr
it's such a cursed animal.
covert birch
I fucking love its face
opaque blaze
DERP
opaque blaze
How'd it get the eggs in there!?
covert birch
magic
safe galleon
The face looks like the mata mata turtle
strange wave
How'd it get the eggs in there!?
@opaque blaze do you really want to know
safe galleon
Wide and flat
opaque blaze
I kinda do...
covert birch
Mata mata turtles are the best turtles
safe galleon
True
strange wave
I kinda do...
@opaque blaze Common Surinam toad, google it
safe galleon
They smile all the time :)
cobalt compass
thats knowledge from the realm of unwanted wisdom
safe galleon
Look at these smiley bois :)
honest sparrow
cute
valid zephyr
how about don't google it.
cobalt compass
thats the same thing like wanting to know what blue waffles are
opaque blaze
NO
honest sparrow
they're not too bad
opaque blaze
DON'T
honest sparrow
I really like the color blue
opaque blaze
Nope, not falling for that one again
safe galleon
This don’t feel like the right conversation to have in suggestion discussion
cobalt compass
yea, heavily #401470471750811669, but fun
safe galleon
True :D
covert birch
@green cave nemi is way too small for a playable
The thing can get swallowed whole by velo
covert birch
I mean, look at this tiny fucker
gaunt flax
if a small flier would be added it'd probably be dimorphodon
cobalt compass
nail cleaner niche?
green cave
@green cave nemi is way too small for a playable
The thing can get swallowed whole by velo
@covert birch And Compy isnt Small?
gaunt flax
compy's like 3 times bigger than that
cobalt compass
manicure+pedicure niche?
gaunt flax
if not 5
honest sparrow
The 3 pterosaur idea must DIE
covert birch
Or, they can add something thats bigger IRL
green cave
Yea
covert birch
Such as dimorphodon
green cave
Like Not Just nemi i mean something Smaller than Ptera that would be Considered Small
covert birch
Imo, there aint much of a way you can make small pterosaurs good playables unless its like a vampire bat
honest sparrow
it's why Yi qi isn't valid for in game
covert birch
which stuff like dimorphodon and mesdactylus are great for
honest sparrow
there are other things that are bigger than it that fill the same niche
safe galleon
Yi Qi has a larger cousin right?
honest sparrow
2 smaller ones
safe galleon
Oh yeah I got them mixed up
strange wave
And Compy isnt Small?
@green cave compy can eat this little fucker easily
green cave
ik Blue said it
covert birch
@zealous steeple when suggestiong animals you need to elaborate more then just Add X
Also spino is already coming, why add literally the exact same animal
green cave
true
honest sparrow
Also oxalia no longer exists
zealous steeple
Although Oxalaia is identical to Spinosaurus, it is not proven that it was the same animal, just like Sucho, Bary is identical, but it is not the same animal, it would be nice if they added another Spinosauridae.The new Spinosaurus is beautiful, but it is not realistic, so they could add Oxalaia as a realistic "Spino", it would have the new skeleton that was recently discovered.
covert birch
Realistic spino would be somewhat fucked in game
icy lion
you might wanna mention that in the op since its against the rules to say "add x" with no reasoning, mechanics, or anything really
pulsar lake
If you make IRL spino using it's arms for self-defense and being 14.8 meters long, IRL one could work.
covert birch
That aint the issue levi
pulsar lake
After, 90% of its diet is based on fish, which I aprove
zealous steeple
Beleza ent seu pau no cu, gringo fdp
covert birch
What warrented calling people that
vestal hound
what is up with people today...
icy lion
seems like people are getting ruder by the day. maybe theres an influx of new people in the discord since the date was released
opaque blaze
paper oriole
Yo what's with all the “add this dino” suggestions lacking any sort of substance lately damn
vestal hound
<@&401466542140817419> m gonna be a snitch here... we don't need that kind of behaviour
hallow vigil
@zealous steeple If you're going to suggest a dino, you need to explain why you think it would be a good addition to the game
make sure to read the pinned messages
vestal hound
it's also about the other message... even if it is in another language
left nacelle
He's gone
opaque blaze
SMITED! Smote? Smoted? Smitten?
left nacelle
He said something rude, didn't say it in english, and didn't elaborate on the animal he suggested. That's three rules broken lol
vestal hound
I am smitten with smited
ebon tiger
smote is a word 😛
opaque blaze
But which one's the past tense of "To Smite"?
ebon tiger
smote
opaque blaze
Past perfect? Whatever it's called in English
ebon tiger
to quote Gandalf; "I smote his ruin upon the mountainside"
icy lion
smitten is like when youre in love
opaque blaze
So going from that the past perfect of 'smiting' would be smoted? Language is weird
Yeah, ik, it just fit the list
opaque blaze
Smited, then? What's the past perfect?
ebon tiger
pretty sure "smited" isn't real
opaque blaze
"Smite" is a strange word...
ebon tiger
smitten has the same origin as smote, but different context
they're both past-tense of smite, but mean different things
opaque blaze
The search continues But thanks anyways
left nacelle
Speaking of weird words no one uses: The word "Overmorrow" means the day after tomorrow
ebon tiger
yup
opaque blaze
That doesn't sound too weird to me, as in Dutch it's the same
ebon tiger
people don't like it when i use it in normal speech XD
we're getting off-topic though
left nacelle
Oh, so that word is used in Dutch, Dragonychus?
No one uses it in English really. And yeah this is #401470471750811669 now lol
opaque blaze
"Overmorgen" basically the direct translation. Yeah...
left nacelle
Interesting
cobalt compass
same for german
Übermorgen
barren zephyr
Vacation.
left nacelle
@plucky widget Problem with that suggestion: Lets say a pack of utahraptors is surrounding a tenonto in the jungle, but the tenonto has no idea they even exist because of the foliage. Suddenly, the tenonto starts growling and then the person controlling the tenonto knows something up
plucky widget
oops i probably didnt explain it good
ill change it but
what i meant is when the player knows too
when like 2 apexes hunt a herd
thats what i pictured in my head
fixed
left nacelle
I still feel like that wouldn't work
Like how would the game know that you're aware of their presence?
plucky widget
look at the edit
left nacelle
That.. still didn't answer my question lol
left nacelle
But not everyone calls
and if they attack, then you'll probably be attacking too, which would clash with the attack sounds imo
plucky widget
it wouldnt distrupt attacks and stuff
left nacelle
I know it wouldn't disrupt attacks but it would disrupt the sounds the animals make when attacking
plucky widget
say youre a para and a bunch of utahs are in ambush the dino would get frustrated and the sounds and animation can be cancelled when the player just moves
it would almost be like idle animation but situatunal
left nacelle
But then there'd be no point, cause players are constantly moving
plucky widget
situational
left nacelle
Too situational imo
@potent sparrow People would just bite every corpse they come across to see if it's playing dead or not
honest sparrow
if they don't see the prompt, you die
plucky widget
it would add to the feeling of what your dino is going through, obviously if big things are hunting the herd you wouldnt be attacking or moving all the time since a big chunk of the fight is the players thinking
left nacelle
I think that's already gonna be accomplished with locational damage and new pain sounds
Like if you get attacked you'll be able to see wounds and if you take a lot of damage, your animal will cry out in pain
covert birch
Playing dead would be the most useless ability ingame ever
Like, if you do that your literally free food, your gonna be eaten especially since you cant pretend to be rotten food
plucky widget
^
worn token
Who DOESNT wanna see a trike eating a watermelon cmon?
worn token
lmao
worn token
But how would a trike reach a jackfruit
strange wave
slam into the tree
left nacelle
It adds risk and reward. If one falls it could hurt you, but it's nutritious
strange wave
that cant
@worn token why not?
left nacelle
Also, don't watermelons grow in arid places?
covert birch
trike headbutts tree and knocks down jackfruit
strange wave
anky or magy smacks the tree and the fruit fall
strange wave
hypsi climbs up the tree and takes out the fruit
worn token
it was just an idea I had for some time
paper oriole
watermelon contains much more water than solids, if anything it should be a thirst quenching fruit
and upvoting your own suggestion 
bold mist
Have we heard anything on tribals and guns asside from "they can pick them up but can't use them"
Screw it I'm gonna make my suggestion anyway
covert birch
I asked filipe what his opinion on tribals being able to use guns but not aim them or reload em
And he said he liked it
bold mist
my suggestion relies on reloading but not being able to get more from any means other than attackin compounds
paper oriole
i think it would be hilarious if tribals could go ooga booga and use guns as blunt weapons that can randomly fire off their remaining ammo
bold mist
lol
silent current
I usually put a check mark and x mark on my sugestions so people don't have to search for em x3
paper oriole
also small dinos should be able to break into merc vehicles and "accidentally" drive them out of control and crash into shit and probably end up dying as the vehicle smashes into a tree or barrels down a cliff
bold mist
I mean, they could have a tribal do the same thing
paper oriole
yeah tribals and some dinos could break into vehicles or pick up guns and just go out of control ham with it
bold mist
I'd love to see a tribal break into a vehicle and make it go crazy. Extra great if they did like a scream while in a moving vehicle
paper oriole
lmao yes the dino or tribal just starts screaming in panic as the vehicle plows through the landscape to its explosive demise
left nacelle
Dondi said in the past that tribals want to destroy all modern technology @bold mist
bold mist
I'm curious how they'll incentivize that
paper oriole
imagine just hearing a dryo scree as a vehicle whooshes past and flies off a cliff
theyd probably allow tribals to take from the things they destroy to make armour and weapons
like metal spears n shit idk
would encourage them to scrap merc tech
left nacelle
Yeah. Tribals will probably be rewarded for destroying tech
paper oriole
like hey bunga check out my new sharpie stick
left nacelle
Tribals using gun barrels to make flutes and shit
last heath
cant wait to exchange random shit with tribals for their gold as a merc
left nacelle
Loincloth made from bullet proof vests
paper oriole
tribal checking out his new mace (which is just a merc gun) and accidentally shooting his tribe mate lol
last heath
gonna leave a car in the open for them to try and steal so I can snipe the fuckers from the tree line
I'm the jungle now, ugly fuckers
left nacelle
They'd probably just beat the shit out of the car
paper oriole
just pelt the car with rocks and poop
last heath
potato potáto, they get shot anyway
paper oriole
okay maybe just rocks lol
last heath
''arrows and shit''
paper oriole
arrows in the tires
left nacelle
That's not what I meant lol
last heath
: ^)
paper oriole
arrows smeared with shit!
last heath
shit arrows!
left nacelle
No!
paper oriole
yes!
last heath
YES
left nacelle
Arrows smeared with troodon venom 
paper oriole
in all seriousness arrows smeared with shit that can cause infection is an actual thing
that could be used
last heath
arrows smeared with shi-
left nacelle
Talking about fecal matter on this discord is a bad idea tho, so I think we should drop this lol
paper oriole
like i guess to be less gross they could just stick the arrows in rotting carcasses instead of putting shit on them
last heath
I swear to god, if some tribal tries to steal my merc shit even once I'll go KOS on their ass
actual genocide
left nacelle
Whoa admin suggestion
last heath
quick
D E S T R O Y I T
paper oriole
personally i like the mystery of trying to figure out what left tracks without it telling me
makes it spookier
bold mist
different arrows can have different poisons, troodon venom paralyzes, dilo venom causes, whatever dilo venom causes, and shit/rotten arrows cause infection
left nacelle
@barren zephyr iirc, we'll be able to smell the animal itself now with the new scent. Don't think it'll be that in-depth tho
Maybe it could be that in-depth if it's the same species as you tho 
barren zephyr
That’s be neat^
covert birch
Personally i prefer the idea a player needs to actively learn what each footprint means
last heath
''let me smell you''
left nacelle
Well it has nothing to do with footprints, Blue
covert birch
maybe some 1 specific dino with a super sniff mechanic can have somethin of this manner tho
barren zephyr
For nesting purpose would be nice. You’re a adult male and you’re looking for a female, smell some tracks and find out its female or male, would save the chase
covert birch
Well it has nothing to do with footprints, Blue
Nvm misread it
left nacelle
I think the footprints should tell you little to nothing. Smelling the animal itself should be what does it
covert birch
Ehh not a fan of that star
bold mist
adds territorial marking
left nacelle
It can be hard to tell if they're male or female from a distance tho
last heath
.__.
covert birch
they are saying so they dont gotta walk all the way to the male/fem to know what gender it is
paper oriole
maybe if you're actively looking for somebody to nest with you can choose to lace your prints with an extra indicator to your own species
to make running into them easier
left nacelle
I think it's fine as long as it's limited to your own species
Like a compy shouldn't be able to tell if a rex is male or female by scent
covert birch
I mean, if your looking for a mate imo 1 call can function perfectly fine doing that
And adds a bit of risk which is always fun
paper oriole
like an on off option that automatically puts the little indicator on yoru tracks that is only visible to your own species
last heath
just go on global and yell anyone wants to fu-
barren zephyr
I mean. I would like to tell. Be a neat feature and wouldn’t cause much harm. Other then people not liking to be found.. but you’ll be found regardless due to the scent mechanic we have now
Why not add flavour
last heath
actually, that stat check would be fine
covert birch
Telling gender for same species is fine
For other species not a fan tho
bold mist
rub pheromones on a tree that makes that creature easier to find (more intense scent particles)
last heath
sniff and members of your species nearby can have their stats seen, or something
covert birch
Rubbing on tree is confirmed n such
bold mist
not for that purpose
covert birch
Yea but it does leave smell
barren zephyr
Of course, should have some limitations to it. But for large he herd or pack, would be cool
last heath
tho the option to leave ''gendered foot prints'' or whatever would be ok
barren zephyr
Lol you can’t really tell about gender with foot prints. Even now it’s hard with today’s technology. I mean scent trails such as rubbing against a tree or something
last heath
eh, could be too
paper oriole
the on-off option to naturally leave a gendered scent marker as you walk and rub against things
last heath
that would be ok
paper oriole
like all your scent would be sorta laced with it, would help a mate find you or risk attracting other males who want to kick your ass because they want to nest too
turbid glade
but i think females would mostly search for males xD
paper oriole
yeah mos tlikely the males would leave the extra scent indicator
last heath
''Give me children!!''
''wtf, lady! leave me alone!''
paper oriole
the more bird like dinos would probably have males leaving scent yeah
turbid glade
the thing i would suggest is to have other species in group
paper oriole
the more lizard like ones would have the female leaving scent
honest sparrow
some female birds try to impress males, some males impress females, and some are in mutual engagement
cyan flame
I figure both could have the scent option on/off, and let it turn out according to how the players play, rather than "force" it one way or the other.
paper oriole
well the more basal dinos really not the lizard like ones i guess, bull trikes and sauropods would probably still have males fighting over who gets to nest with how low the player count will be
cyan flame
It would more be a way to communicate "I'm looking for a mate for nesting", doesn't mean you're going to be found acceptable by a potential partner
But having an added scent option would be nice, especially if nesting becomes important and an investment, not just an added thing to do like right now
bold mist
Mating isn't mandatory (just look at me, a solo cerato player)
I assume you wouldn't leave scent unless you wanted to
Then again you could just pick the gender that's supposed to pursue and you wouldn't have to worry about that
What all do we know about tree climbing, I heard tribals will be able to, would raptors?
cyan flame
I think it's been said the mechanic is possible, but we've no idea what dino, if any, would get it. Don't take that as gospel though. I guess a possible climber would be the hypsi, birdlike as it is.
paper oriole
meh maybe if we get little guys like deinon, zhen, chang
velo could try at climbing trees
bold mist
I'm just curious if tribals will get tree hopping like the cannibals in the forest
left nacelle
I doubt it. But the "cannibals" will
drifting chasm
Wouldn’t the tree climbing be good if used to get hypsi the little bastard
turbid glade
you dont want utah climb on trees and jump on you xD
honest sparrow
hypsi isn't confirmed to climb trees
naive turret
Either way, it’s a interesting mechanic
strange wave
im not opposed to it climbing trees, that way tribals can yeet it off of a tree
naive turret
there could also be bird’s nests, bug nests(like bees and wasps to watch out for) and even bug larvae for foraging and obstacles in the trees if tree climbing does become a thing.
outer condor
@rugged tiger It's already confirmed
barren zephyr
beat me to it was literally typing the same thing lmao with the image and everything
rugged tiger
Oh man that's awesome! I honestly didnt see that. Ty for the info, I'm super excited now
outer condor
Yea it was reveal in the last devbog
rugged tiger
I'm honestly just getting back into gaming. So forgive my noobness. I'm just learning about "blogs" and all this online stuff...
Lol last time I was a "gamer" was in 03... when teamspeak and yahoo messenger were the way to go...
barren zephyr
@jade schooner great addition to my suggestion
jade schooner
Darknan, If I tried to scream right about when I’m drinking I think there are more chances to choke than making a gargling shout, just saying 😂❤️
neon moss
Whats bad about choking :p
Also people aleardy did do stuff with water in theyr mouths, so it's called gurgling , you do like Aaaaaaaaa and water just goes crazy in your mouth so scream wont be that different :p
left nacelle
@civic stone Wouldn't it suck to spawn in as a super bright animal and have no control over it?
paper oriole
A rare leucistic skin (white with blue eyes) would be a neat thing that can happen to those nested by parents with bad genes, but the albino skin (white with red eyes) should be related to cannibalism or something similar
cobalt compass
also dondi said that cannibalism could lead to albinism
paper oriole
Yeah hope thats still the case
cobalt compass
nah, i think this trait is first active when the new roster almost fully released
but would be fun, or imagine an albino tenonto
turbid glade
me playing an complete white utah with orange back :D
pale sorrel
@neon moss I did already suggest that, but yes. I agree 100%. The bubbles around the mouth would make nice touch too. 🙂
harsh silo
@barren zephyr i love the idea to be honest, but it seems a bit exploitable, what makes utahs or tribals not camp the area? Gets fixed, gets broken 5 mins later, mercs go back, manage to fight utahs off, gets fixed, gets broken again 5 minutes later. Its a great idea but imo keeping in mind the player mindset the towers would not be operational at all, players can just camp it and wait for their free meal
safe galleon
@sharp topaz how would plants hide scent?
sharp topaz
I was thinking about some plants that have their own strong scent so when you walk through them they would mask your scent. And maybe if you could carry them around your scent would be at least half masked
left nacelle
@sharp topaz Mud wallowing will mask scent already. I don't think a plant that does the same thing is really necessary
harsh silo
@neon moss there will be mud and you'll be able to wallow on it to help with healing, to mask your scent, to keep your dinosaur happy etc
Maybe a cool detail would be that the utah gets muddy when it pounces but bounces back
And well, adding muddy textures on dinosaurs would be a plus
cobalt compass
if you're lazy and should use search, watch vids by rav
🥳 👏 👏
idle birch
<@&401466542140817419> #🔧-legacy-troubleshooting-🔧 the isle will automatically be removed from NVIDIA GEFORCE NOW on May 31 as nvidia switches to an opt in model. Could you please help me get the publishers attention on this? It appears to be a straightforward and free process on the publisher side. I know I and many other players enjoy using the isle on this platform and would be sad to no longer be able to play. Here is a link with more information. Thanks! https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2020/05/27/geforce-now-library-may/
feral wedge
No longer able to play?
You could launch Steam, have it detect the game file, and it would recognize that you own it and still be playable in that manner. And that's if, for whatever reason, it's not already detected in your library due to Steam being the only method of legal purchase.
idle birch
@feral wedge Not to get into my own situation too much, but while I own it on my steam account I do not have my gaming PC with me during this quarantine fiasco, which effectively means if the isle goes off nvidia I won't be able to play. I'm not alone on this as other players use the service too. Do you know how I can raise this issue?
feral wedge
Gaming PC or not, how precisely do you have a machine that can access GeForce, but not your own Steam?
cobalt compass
i think he means he is streaming the isle like the google service
using nvidia server
dont know the excact name of the google service
google stadia is it
idle birch
Yes that is correct - its streaming with nvidia shield as the hardware which on its own can't run games. With nvidia geforce now i stream steam
And after may 31 it would block me from the isle specifically within steam without the publisher opt in
sort of like a movie being removed from netflix
random imp
I am a suspicious guy by nature, this story smells fishy.
idle birch
@cobalt compass thanks! Added the tag. Still getting used to discord
cobalt compass
yw
barren zephyr
@harsh silo you can do the same thing as a merc, if you think they're gonna come back then you can camp the area
harsh silo
What's the fun in that though
barren zephyr
Ensuring the tower doesn't go down
harsh silo
that'd kinda create a hotspot and if I recall correctly people are sick of hotspots leaving the rest of the map empty, as a merc u need to move around, scavenge etc so that playstyle might not be a good, BUT, the concept is very nice, specially the communication stuff
left nacelle
@mild basin That would make it impossible to survive as an apex lol. You need to use up stamina to catch food, but you also need to eat to gain stamina. If you ever ran out of stamina, you'd be fucked. It would also make resting and sleeping useless for apexes
lilac swallow
"What if we make so playing apex is a torture"
Basically
left nacelle
lilac swallow
I genuinely think people don't even realize what are they writing half the times
left nacelle
@wraith breach Already happening
mild basin
i suggest it because, not only would it limit the apex population, it'd also make it harder to survive
neat beacon
The reasons why it would be terrible are stated above
mild basin
obviously as like a juvie the rule wouldnt apply but itd make it so apexes would have to choose their hunts and plan them well
i know
mild basin
just dont run unless youre hunting 4head
neat beacon
Or what if you're in danger/
mild basin
youre an apex
mild basin
they gotta run too
mild basin
i dunno
neat beacon
Yeah
mild basin
maybe itll have moer uses than just stamina regen
neat beacon
so apexes shouldnt be able to function like normal creatures because they're at the top of the food chain?
mild basin
yes
neat beacon
What..?
mild basin
do lions function like hyenas
mild basin
ok touche
lilac swallow
Im only seeing here a "fuck players that play something I don't like"
neat beacon
Aight so why cant they function normally/
mild basin
when im not playing apex i dont want everyone else to be one
mild basin
im fine with that
mild basin
then dont hunt that thing
lilac swallow
That's not hard, is simply unfun
mild basin
like i said it'd make it harder to play
wellllll
fun is subjective
docktahs exist
i think lying in shrubbery and waiting for the right thing to pass would be fun
mild basin
yeah
neat beacon
thats unfun
lilac swallow
Losing 6 hours because you failed one single hunt and now you are left with no Stam is in no way fun
mild basin
it makes apexes a hard and skill based dinosaur
i dunno
im spitting out words at this point
lilac swallow
That's straight up masochism
neat beacon
Then dont make the suggestion
mild basin
but in my mind i think it would make apexes a risky grow which will
no no no
my suggestion wasnt spitting words
neat beacon
That's like saying lions have to eat constantly
mild basin
you could argue that it doesnt make apexes more skill based
neat beacon
in order to function
neat beacon
They dont??
mild basin
do you see lions running everywhere?
lilac swallow
A lion can go a fucking week without eating
mild basin
ok then
how about this
lions are smaller than apexes
but function in an ecosystem similarly
neat beacon
They're apex predators...
mild basin
so they can go longer without food
neat beacon
what do you mean
covert birch
Imo best way to make apexs difficult is to make its food drain faster than most animals
Like make it have only an hours worth of food, make it hard to feed it n such
So its more reliant on a player actually getting that hunt successfully
neat beacon
It just makes no sense they cant use resting at all
lilac swallow
I would prefer their stomachs requiring much more food but their hunger drain being normal
neat beacon
or sitting
covert birch
I mean issue with that is that they never starve, which should be an apexs main issue imo
neat beacon
It's like giving teeth and claws to a carnivore and saying they cant use it to hunt
mild basin
that is a good alternative
left nacelle
A better alternative to your suggestion @mild basin would be to give apexes crappier stamina regen or make them use up stamina fast. That would encourage apexes to be more careful without it being masochism
mild basin
well yeah i assume apexes will have the worst stamina
covert birch
Like having a medium food pool, but a high drain, relys on apexs actually having to hunt more often, and they cant mess up that hunt or else theyll prolly go hungry for a bit
lilac swallow
That already happens with Rex bird
left nacelle
But that's only rex lol
neat beacon
and giga is slow
covert birch
Giga aint slow with the 4th fastest trot ingame
lilac swallow
Giga's trot is fucking busted
covert birch
literally walks people down to death
neat beacon
Aaa not giga
mild basin
giga run is slow but thats totally fine in my opinion
but the trot is a bit of a yikes
opaque blaze
I doubt you'll lose a lot of water whilst running if sweating isn't your primary means to cool off
left nacelle
Yeah, that's why I said lose thirst slowly
Like I'm not saying you'll run for 5 minutes and then die of thirst
@quasi belfry Herbivores will have migration paths on the new maps
and carnivores will have preferred prey items, causing them to follow around herbivore herds
quasi belfry
okay cool, is this confirmed?
opaque blaze
But to be fair, you can never just assume that just because someone uses "will" it's been confirmed. Not saying what BB is saying is wrong...
left nacelle
But what I mean is, I wouldn't say they "will" be added unless it was confirmed lol
opaque blaze
But some others might
left nacelle
@opaque blaze Why would there be a penalty for go after other carnivores? Carnivores aren't meant to exclusively hunt herbivores
sonic cloud
Meat is meat
lilac swallow
I could see a penalty for canibalizing, but for simply eating another carni? Just no
sonic cloud
Not even cannibalising tbh
lilac swallow
I said i could see not that i want it
sudden hinge
Yeah I don’t agree with the debuff if you eat carns especially if you look at the player base it’s heavily carns because people like being the hunter not the hunted
opaque blaze
Fair point
covert birch
I mean, technically carni meat gives less energy then herbi meat due to being higher on the food chain n such
So i guess you can make it so there is less nutritional value, but why do that and fuck over the already low herbivore player base
turbid glade
juvie herbs will have a hard time
sudden hinge
Exactly I’m not saying make sure herbies are totally taken care of but since herbs are so rare on servers as it is don’t make them the only option for food. Carns will target a herb 9/10 times right now and after the recode I could see it being 10/10
turbid glade
oh look a juvie tento lets kill it and transport it to the pack
sudden hinge
Exactly it’ll be a tough life being a juvi herbie but I’m maining tenonto till deino comes out lol
left nacelle
I can't think of a single carnivore that only hunts herbivores irl either. A predator doesn't care about the diet of it's prey, it just wants food
turbid glade
yes
i can understand why people mostly play carni, because its for alot of people more fun
left nacelle
Yeah. Herbivore gameplay right now is exactly the same as carnivore gameplay except for the best part: Hunting
That'll be different in EVRIMA tho
turbid glade
utah will only have fish or tento at start
sudden hinge
Well carns will not go for other carns if they can help it often lions will usually kill other carns but not eat them unless starving
Predators will eat other predators but they will not often make them a staple in there diet. The only mammal I can think of (off the top of my head) that regularly hunts other predators is the jaguar
opaque blaze
One of the reasons I suggested it is that since Carnis eat a lot of Herbis, any harmful substances will be piled up in their tissues more than in Herbis
As such you'd be better off eating Herbis
wintry cipher
People already do prefer to hunt herbivores. They are just not very frequently around for obvious reasons.
The only options right now in the game for combat/food are frequently other carnivores or AI.
opaque blaze
Also, with upcoming AI, it would theoretically be easier to find enough Herbis
wintry cipher
Entirely depends on how well that AI entertains you and what you have to keep you busy. But you would see more herbivores more likely due to being able to hide a lot better in the dense jungles.
sudden hinge
Yes it would but I don’t think you should debuff carns for eating other carns because you could justify the killing of other carns for the simple fact of competition naturally predators will kill other predators to solidify there hunting grounds and safety
left nacelle
The only thing that should stop carnivores from hunting other carnivores is the danger. Carnivores can be a lot more dangerous to hunt than herbivores in a lot of cases
opaque blaze
That, too
left nacelle
Which already happens pretty much. People are gonna prefer to go after herbivores than carnivores cause they can't hide as well nor can they defend themselves as easily
sudden hinge
In nature it is almost a certainty because herbs have the thought process to run first carns will stand in fight most cases unless out numbered or outsized
left nacelle
Most herbivores can defend themselves, but they aren't as nimble as carnivores in most cases
sudden hinge
Very true the nimble herbs have nothing to fear unless they aren’t paying attention
left nacelle
The nimbler herbis tend to not be able to defend themselves as easily. Galli and dryo are very fast but do practically no damage. But things like trikes can defend themselves from almost anything but are very slow
sudden hinge
I just hope we see a little bit more realism being pushed into the game I love the game but it’d be nice to see the isle act like an ecosystem and not have mega packs destroying everything lol
left nacelle
I'm pretty sure that's one of the main goals of the recode. That's why a majority of the new animals are so small. They need the small animals to make the ecosystem more complete
Small animals are the most vital part of an ecosystem
sudden hinge
They really are and I’m excited to see how evrima will change the pace of the isle
left nacelle
@rigid spade Devs already said no to that because of programming issues and it could be used to troll. Plus juvys will be faster in EVRIMA
left nacelle
You're one of very many people to suggest that btw lol
rigid spade
xD didnt know
left nacelle
You will be able to carry corpses tho, just not living things
rigid spade
ye
indigo sun
@tiny compass Devs said no to first person, at least for dinosaurs, because there's a lot of movement that happens with the animals' heads, even when they're idle.
tepid gate
It could still be happening, screw the first person view - at least let us put the camera on top of the head of the dinosaur rather than behind it
indigo sun
Further zoom could work, better than first person would work
tepid gate
No, further zoom wouldn't work for hunting, it doesn't address the issue of having the camera behind you while you're hidden
tiny compass
@indigo sun Oh thank you for the answer, were all bothered by the foliage getting in our view when hiding in bushes and trees, I hope there is a possibility to bring the 1st person view tho, it's just natural to see where your head is...not your tail 🙂
tepid gate
If you leave your cover your dinosaur is already visible while you're not yet seeing what's in front of it
that's just bad for hunting
tiny compass
@tepid gate exactly
tepid gate
People see things coming out of the dense foliage while they're out in the open before they themselves get seen because of this
indigo sun
@barren zephyr rex wont be the only one breaking bones in the future, I'm sure, but rex's bone break does help it fulfill its niche as an ambush hunter. Giga is an endurance hunter and wouldnt even need bone break. Anky definitely should get it and probably will, but other apex predators dont need it
tepid gate
Giga is an endurance hunter only in the current game(it doesn't have the bonebreak because it's a bleeder and doesn't have to break its preys' legs to force it to stay in place)
tiny compass
it's strange the devs can do so many fancy things but not bring the 1st person view...hmm
tepid gate
Also Rex wasn't always an ambush hunter and it still had the bonebreak back then
indigo sun
I agree the head poking out of the foliage is an issue, allowing your camera to zoom far enough that youre on top of the head or moving the camera a bit forward so the zoom doesnt just have you looking at the back when you zoom in all the way could work.
Just first person wouldnt work because of the head movement of the animals
tepid gate
Oh, you mean zooming out as in putting it on top of the head - that's fair
tiny compass
oh I didn't mean having your 1stpv shaking while walking just the level of the zoom to be in front of the nose...or something
tepid gate
Idc for the specific first person perspective as a dinosaur, I just want to be able to see what's in front of me without having the actual dinosaur in the way of my camera
tiny compass
u can scroll and pan in or out
tepid gate
Yes, the issue is that currently the closest zoom in isn't on of top the head therefore it doesn't help, if the devs were to make it so that the camera is on top of the head when fully zoomed in that should solve the problem for the most part I believe
tiny compass
or there could be a feature like a focus view
where ur camera will be placed infront of your head so u can look out for a brief time..
while in hiding...
paper oriole
Why tf would giga be breaking bones he's obviously a ripper/bleeder build
Anky yeah, definitely. Alberto, sure, not giga
left nacelle
Same with diablo. It has pointed horns
I could see something like ava getting bone break, cause it doesn't attack with the tip of it's horns, but diablo's horns literally gore you
paper oriole
Idk what business para would have breaking bones too outside a trample incident
Think he was suggesting giga break bones of dibble and para
left nacelle
Oooooh
paper oriole
Which imo would still be a no since he is the apex bleeder
He'll probably still be a big bleeder in remake, just look at his jaw and teeth, obvious bleeder
left nacelle
Rex is apex bone break, Giga is apex bleeder, and Spino is apex semi-aquatic
paper oriole
He doesnt need to break your bones and bleed you out at the same time
left nacelle
Maybe spino could get bone break and bleed, but not as severe as rex's or giga's
paper oriole
Spino will be grappling to pin prey
Look at those arms, he doesnt need bb and grapple
left nacelle
oh yeah, I forgot it'll be using its arms now
vast wolf
giga would break its own teeth if it broke something else's bone.
giga can just bite and hold with its mouth just like rex.
left nacelle
The spino using its arms thing gave me an idea for a suggestion
paper oriole
I think certain armed animals like utah, galli, ovi should be able to toss small things like tocks, eggs and dead meat
vast wolf
as long as the second thing is of very limited size and has a solid debuff.
left nacelle
I think tossing is a bit too much. They probably wouldn't be too good at throwing anyway
vast wolf
ovi holding an egg in its arms makes more sense than it using its beak to hold it.
left nacelle
Plus I think it would look a little weird
covert birch
Not toss but drop
So a hypsi on a tree can drop fruits on the heads of passerbys
paper oriole
Idk utah and galli look like they could do a little toss, would be limited to tossing a fruit or egg, probably to break it
Hypsi should be able to gnaw the stems of big fruits to drop them
left nacelle
I could see them throwing things straight down real hard to break them, but i can't really see them tossing them outward
vast wolf
i dont dinosaurs had the range of motion in their hands or arms to throw.
paper oriole
Just to accelerate its speed towards the ground or a rock right in front of them
left nacelle
They might've, but even if they didn't, the animals in The Isle aren't actual dinosaurs
honest sparrow
Utah now has broken wrists, I doubt they could throw anything
paper oriole
The isle galli seems to have decent movement in its arms, and utah is getting fictionilized wrists, probably to open doors
But with more humanlike movement in utah's wrists he could probably add a little bit of fling to a drop
vast wolf
you will spawn in the air and get to choose your spawn to an extent anyway.