#general-feedback-discussion

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honest sparrow
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micro (according to bryan) would be ambience at most

silent current
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damn

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I would of loved to play as a useless little glider

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I wouldn't mind it xD

honest sparrow
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zhen and balaur seem to be popular

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so those are possible glidy bois

covert birch
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Zhen? Popular?

silent current
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unlikely dude what were saying is it ain't gonna work that way because we don't even know what recode will be like in terms of stats

strange wave
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people have already posted deinonychus suggestions with those two things

covert birch
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Its literally never mentioned outside this discord

brisk mesa
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Zhen and Balaur aren't popular, remotely

silent current
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Their all getting changed

honest sparrow
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at least from what I know blue piss off

silent current
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So changing the bio for it won't change a thing

covert birch
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Balaur is interesting tho since i saw it was theorized to be a herbi/omni
Would be cool for 1 herbi glider and 1 carni glider

silent current
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Until we actually get recode and know what the dino stats are like

honest sparrow
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Levi have you made a nychus suggestion?

covert birch
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So like changyuraptor carni vs balaur herbi

pulsar lake
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Tree climbing is a good way to make Nychus unique. It could also have a small glide with a good directional jump.

It would be a pretty good predator for Hypsis and be an eagle/leopard.

covert birch
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wheats outline for deinonychus imo is best

pulsar lake
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I won't do a suggestion but I know that Slouping will.

honest sparrow
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I'll check it out

covert birch
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cuz wheats outline allows also for the addition for a pure glider compared to deinon who wouldnt glider as adult

pulsar lake
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Well now it has the size of Utah so it's completely useless to play Utah because it is better.

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Just, mke Nychus be real size.

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So 60kg and 3 meters long, 1 meter tall.

silent current
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unlikely dude we've kind of told you I really don't think you should be trying to suggest whole bio sheets on a dino when we don't even know how recode will play out or how stats will play out

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Until then it's kind of a waste of your time

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Not trying o be rude but it might not be wise to make an entire stats list on a dino that is 1 not even confirmed and 2 no based on the stats we'll probably be getting for recode

honest sparrow
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Deinonychus: troodon sized arboreal hunter who can pounce/ glide on prey from branches. Boom, could go in more detail

pulsar lake
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Also proposing statistics is kinda useless because the whole combat system will change : no more weight mass, new bleed, located damages, collision etc.

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That's like proposing 1t Utah. Wikipedia isn't alway right.

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Or 20 tons spino

honest sparrow
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let's get 5 ton troodon

strange wave
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200 ton brachi hell yeah

pulsar lake
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And length?

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I mean, Deinonychus was really Troodon size. It's a small animal.

strange wave
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just delete the stats section, you dont need it, its just causing more problems than its solving

pulsar lake
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Yeah I agree.

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Instead of "Stats explication" you could do "Mechanic Explication" because in the current state of the game we cannot talk about stats. For example Utah is going to be faster.

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Better now.

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People in general doesn't come back.
Actually, proposing a new dinosaur needs a lot of explication. I'm for leopard/forest eagle Deinonychus but the whole "stamina drain with bie" is already something that is coming.
Also I really don't see Deinonychus being an hunter of large things such as Allosaurus or Parasaurolophus : it would hunt smaller things than itself alone such as Hypsilophodon and large things like Maiasaura or Ceratosaurus in pack.

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I mean, I know that someone will do a big Deinonychus document soon and we've talked about that in #401464048610312195 with a lot of people and we agreed to make Deinonychus like a leopard able to climb trees with a kind of glide.

No problem.

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Just your first version was an Utah/Dilo.

indigo sun
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Man thats so wierd that biome suggestion looks so familiar

left nacelle
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Yeah, it was basically identical

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Well yeah, but he put redwood and snow. He even capitalized the R and W like you did

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But.... he's the one who put it first lol

indigo sun
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Yeah... alright..

left nacelle
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@zenith onyx Tenontosaurus is an Iguanodontid. Plus Shant fits that description perfectly

zenith onyx
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shant isn't coming back though in the recode.

left nacelle
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It is tho

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Shant's getting remade

zenith onyx
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heavy rework. not going to be the same. and why couldn't the iguanodon be done? they did such a good job on the tenonto.

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they'd do a great job on the iguanodon

honest sparrow
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shant is coming back in the recode

zenith onyx
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and shant is op. even if it's gonna get a heavy rework

honest sparrow
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iguanadon isn;t a hadrosaur

left nacelle
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If shant gets a rework, it's still gonna be huge, cause it was huge irl. So it'll still most likely be able to compete with apexes

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Shant is op now because it isn't balanced

zenith onyx
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it's in the hadrosuar family tree

frosty igloo
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But acro is getting kicked right

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?

strange wave
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But acro is getting kicked right
@frosty igloo nope

honest sparrow
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acro is also coming back

strange wave
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only pue

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sadly

zenith onyx
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but im not about to get to get in a heated debate. i suggested an idea that i thought was cool. end of story

frosty igloo
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but we get other long necks

honest sparrow
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ye brachi and magy

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and possibly a diplodocid

strange wave
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but we get other long necks
after reading the TSL dossier for pue i just want it back even more

frosty igloo
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and maybe if we get those maybe they will like the idea of oue

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*pue

left nacelle
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Cool it Kai. We just told you that your suggestion is pretty much already happening. I don't get why you're getting mad

zenith onyx
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because every time i post something i get attacked. saying my idea generally sucks...

frosty igloo
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Like what Im saying if they add other long neck bois maybe they will find a way to make pue work

left nacelle
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Then try making smaller suggestions. You're usually gonna get attacked if you post animal suggestions or suggestions for game-changing features

zenith onyx
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pue is getting scrapped

frosty igloo
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I mean things change

strange wave
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because every time i post something i get attacked. saying my idea generally sucks...
@zenith onyx your suggestions are great, but as all thing they can be improved, atleast you aren't reposting a yutyrannus suggestion 7 time in a row

zenith onyx
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i do. every time though people dilike them though. and why not have iguanodon? tons of people woul play it.

honest sparrow
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yeah your suggestions are good ideas, just better execution

left nacelle
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Tenonto is an Iguanodontid. So we basically already have an iguanodon

honest sparrow
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big ig

zenith onyx
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it's not hte same though

left nacelle
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But it isn't necessary

zenith onyx
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but i understand

frosty igloo
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I think iguanodon would be cool but we have other things...

honest sparrow
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not neccesary, but I like my big ig

strange wave
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i would put an emphasis on a special ability for iguanodon like a grapple, or a punch that sends smaller animals flying

honest sparrow
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make it tenonto's beefy cousin

frosty igloo
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and the more things we add the more confusing the game will be

honest sparrow
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that shanks people

left nacelle
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Plus every animals costs $7k+

zenith onyx
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the game is supposed to be confusing as hell

honest sparrow
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difference between skill floor and just being confusing

frosty igloo
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Yeah but if we have a server have a max population of 80 and we have like 50 species and everybody playes different things finding a herd would be imposible

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just a example

zenith onyx
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ai herds

frosty igloo
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still not the same

honest sparrow
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I mean, community servers will probably have bigger max caps

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and it's not like everyone is gonna pick a different dinosaur

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there will always be more popualr dinos then others

zenith onyx
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lol people have a hard now finding a group. it will be the same in the recode time too

frosty igloo
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🙄

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I mean true

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but Im just saying

left nacelle
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@narrow whale No one's telling you to pay money for animals that are already in the game you bought. Play on a different server

icy lion
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additionally non survivals are being added to the game as regular playables

left nacelle
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and don't upvote your own suggestion

honest sparrow
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that suggestion made me want to leave the isle

zenith onyx
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not every non survival dino @barren zephyr

left nacelle
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Most Survival dinos

icy lion
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what ones arent?

left nacelle
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Well Pue is getting replaced

zenith onyx
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alberto and bary for one

left nacelle
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So Pue kinda isn't

icy lion
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yea and brachi might be ai only too :/

left nacelle
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No alberto's getting remade

icy lion
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alberto and bary are confirmed playable

narrow whale
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ok

zenith onyx
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so when did they confirm alberto was playable?

icy lion
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its like... dondis favorite dino

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he said itd be getting a unique mechanic

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except pue pue1

zenith onyx
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alberto is just a sub rex

left nacelle
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Alberto is just a sub rex right now

icy lion
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it wont be after rework. and subrex wont exist with forced progression

left nacelle
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Albertosaurus literally has no animations in the current game lol

zenith onyx
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lol same eating animations. same size. and it running speed is the same. it even has hte baby arms

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and the little crest

left nacelle
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Well that's what alberto had irl

icy lion
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is it getting a new model or no?

left nacelle
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It's speed is the same cause the animation is the same

zenith onyx
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god pue isn't even fun

icy lion
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i think thats why brachi is gonna be ai only

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rip pue, never played ya

zenith onyx
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stop spamming that emote or image or whatever that thing is

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a thing

valid zephyr
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unlikely please stop spamming the channel with unrelated things.

zenith onyx
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really? unlikely?

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@barren zephyr

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that was not needed

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@barren zephyr do you want to irritate someone? you are achieving your goal. im getting mad.

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then why did you do it?

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lol.

valid zephyr
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One more person keeps the argument going, and I'm tagging a mod.

zenith onyx
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im not trying to force you to like it

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just not vote something that has nothing to do with it lol

frosty igloo
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nobody is forcing you to argue or stay here

valid zephyr
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You're having a flame war in here, which is against the rules.

frosty igloo
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If you want to argue to it in DM's

barren zephyr
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<@&401466542140817419> anyone to sort things out? thanks in advance

cobalt compass
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@zenith onyx it seems you are excited to play the new isle, but please stop posting suggestions that are already been confirmed to be implemented

zenith onyx
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lol most of them idk about. i still finding out about stuff. so if you wanna tell me about everythign that's being added or changed or inplemented in any way do now please? i listening.

north sentinel
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Let's try and be civil in here please.

zenith onyx
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i am

barren zephyr
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thanks Harriet

cobalt compass
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indeed, but many ppl, like you und kai and many many manyÂł other dont educate themself about whats coming or was debunked in advance...

zenith onyx
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lol. i can't spend all my time trying to find out about a game. i have ohter things to do too

cobalt compass
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you dont have to spend many time to use the searchbar

zenith onyx
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and if there is a web site that you can send me to that shows me all the dinos and mechanics that are being added do so please so i don't post htings that are confirmed

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if htat's what you want

north sentinel
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I think it's best to move on from this. You can take your discussions to DMs.

zenith onyx
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im just asking a simple question or request

cobalt compass
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dgmw some suggestions are good, but they've been mentioned before

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that should cover the most gaps

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also the [Ravenous] playlist on yt about phase

frosty igloo
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nice

cobalt compass
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most relevant informations can be found in 'Pins' on various channel, dont forget to check them too

zenith onyx
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okay. thanks for hte links

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@true thistle you have to give a reason why you want it in the. can't just post a dino

indigo sun
icy lion
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plus its literally just anky

indigo sun
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At $7k an animal you probably shouldnt just be tossing animals into suggestions

covert birch
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ah yes spiky anky

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Lets use 7k on adding literally the exact same thing but edgier

left nacelle
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@neat beacon I like the idea, but I think it would be better if leeches were only in certain pools of water (like the swamp) and if aquatic animals, like deino were immune or resistant to them

neat beacon
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Yeah, thats what i mean sorry

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and they could use mud bathing to clean em off

slow snow
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If it doesn’t affect aquatic animals I’m fine with it

neat beacon
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Ye

covert birch
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As long as deino n such is immune idm

slow snow
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Deino for example kinda should remain still when waiting for prey

covert birch
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Imo the only threat to deino in the water outside of players should be like them big fish

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Tiger Goliathfish they are called iirc

neat beacon
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that better?

covert birch
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yes

slow snow
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Yea I’m fine with that

left nacelle
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I think other aquatic animals should be immune too. Like beipi and austro. Cause then they would always hunt in areas without leeches and you'd never see them in areas with leeches

indigo sun
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leeches are horrible nasty fucks, but i like the suggestion, would be interesting in the game

slow snow
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Deino needs to have some threats in the water, yes

neat beacon
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Ye i said excluding aquatic animals

slow snow
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Maybe they reduce max stam when on your dino maybe?

left nacelle
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Cool 👍

neat beacon
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Or slightly bleed

covert birch
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I like the idea they lower max stam, deal like a flat bleed damage and maybe even prevent healing (if there is a large portion of them on you)

neat beacon
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Aight

slow snow
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Yea I like that, blue

neat beacon
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Affects are worse if more are on them?

left nacelle
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I think you should get some bleed when you remove them too, since they have an anticoagulant

slow snow
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They would be interesting to have

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But since there’s an incentive to go into the water such as for herbis and special plants, it would be a risk other than deino

covert birch
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Now how large would these leeches be

neat beacon
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Well seeable large

covert birch
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Like would they be normal sized, oversized, etc

neat beacon
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And something to make them see there

left nacelle
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Oversized so that you can see them I would assume

covert birch
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I mean you would see them at regular size prolly

neat beacon
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Yea

slow snow
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Or size could be determined by how long they have been on you

left nacelle
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It might be hard if you're a large animal like deino

neat beacon
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and maybe some like spots

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incase your animal is mostly dark

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So like yellow spots on some leeches

left nacelle
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The longer they're on you, the bigger they get and they get a slightly reddish hue

slow snow
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^

neat beacon
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that good?

left nacelle
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Love it

neat beacon
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Should it also cause small pieces of damage when large amounts are on you?

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or will bleeding be able to kill you when sitting?

covert birch
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nah leeches shouldnt kill people imo

neat beacon
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ye

icy lion
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im not gonna download any files here, have a link to it?

left nacelle
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@zenith onyx I think you mean Styracosaurus?

zenith onyx
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let me see. one moment. and yes?

left nacelle
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You put Styraceratops

zenith onyx
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here lol

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i did?

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let me fo fix htat

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here's the right link

icy lion
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@true thistle this channel is for discussions

still temple
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Lets use 7k on adding literally the exact same thing but edgier
@covert birch Looks at Hypsi dondiTroll dondiTroll dondiTroll

covert birch
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poor oro being replaced by a fashionista rat

left nacelle
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@barren zephyr There will only be Utah and Tenonto in EVRIMA

barren zephyr
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ik

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i mean like after the game us done

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is*

covert birch
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@barren zephyr cant just say add X
Gotta give reasoning too

(and even then microraptor is prolly to small to be added as anything more than ai)
better gliders exist like changyuraptor or zhenyuanlong

indigo sun
left nacelle
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But you said "In evrima"

barren zephyr
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i thought that would be the final product

indigo sun
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And might as well tell you to look at rule 6 while youre at it

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No thats absolutely not the final product

left nacelle
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No, evrima is the name of the update that's coming

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The Isle is the final product

indigo sun
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Theres way more to be added after EVRIMA like humans and shit

covert birch
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Evrima is the first update of a long process which will eventually lead to finishing the game

barren zephyr
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ok

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i see thx yall

covert birch
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@sleek ingot pachyrhino was confirmed by kissen to be coming in the future a few months ago

sleek ingot
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Y E S

covert birch
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still a distant add, but an add nontheless

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Same with plateosaurus iirc

sleek ingot
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Insert plankton screaming yes here

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I hope Plateo will be viable enough

covert birch
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plateo would be an interesting choice for a semi aquatic herbi imo

sleek ingot
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E w

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N o

covert birch
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why is that?

sleek ingot
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Well

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Actually

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That doesn't seem too bad

covert birch
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I like the idea of a river wading plateo

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Similar to sucho

sleek ingot
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I could see it eating aquatic plants but swimming and diving not so much

covert birch
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oh yea that no

sleek ingot
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If they wanna add an aquatic herbivore that swims I'd say go for Koreaceratops

covert birch
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Kora is practically just taco or proto going the aquatic route

sleek ingot
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Supposedly Lurdusaurus is suspected to also be aquatic but I have no idea how accurate that is

covert birch
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ehhh, never was a fan of lurdu

sleek ingot
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Same

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It's Iguanodon's lame cousin

covert birch
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Desmato can work as an swimming aquatic herbi
And ourano and plateo imo are better fits at least in appearence then lurdu

paper oriole
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An aquatic herbi doesnt necrssarily need to swim, it could run along the lakebed sort of like adult hippos

sleek ingot
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Well I've seen unofficial art for Minmi being similar to a snapping turtle

covert birch
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Yea but we dont really know what minmi will be other than
"not aquatic but close"

sleek ingot
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Which as horribly inaccurate as that would be, the concept is cool

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Ah

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And then we have Beipaosaurus

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Probably didn't spell that right

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Basically a death duck

covert birch
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I mean, the aquatic minmi isnt as innacurate as beipi
Cuz there is that still debated theory of a minmi relative liang iirc being aquatic

sleek ingot
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Hmmm

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You know, the dinosaur I want most in the game will never come, for obvious reasons though

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Unless they still go the route with it as an alternate skin, I doubt Carcharodontosaurus will make it to the game

covert birch
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dondi mentioned it as a giga skin in the qna stream

sleek ingot
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How long ago

covert birch
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QNA was like in jan

sleek ingot
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Would it still use a seperate model and have different sound designs or

covert birch
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yes, diff model and sounds
But functions the exact same way

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completely cosmetic

sleek ingot
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It makes sense why it wouldn't be it's own thing I guess, it's basically a slightly larger Giga

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But I'll take it regardless

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I prefer it to Giganoto anyways

still temple
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just glue feathers to compy dondiTroll

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there u go, u got ur Micro

sleek ingot
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Hehe

paper oriole
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Compy would beat micro's ass

sleek ingot
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Yeah Microraptor would be cool but not very viable

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Unless small lizards and rodents became a thing, it would have little options for food

honest sparrow
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micro would at most be ambience

covert birch
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ZHenyuanlong, chanyuraptor, balaur
All work as better gliders

paper oriole
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Zhenyuanlong us on my most wanted list

sleek ingot
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Favorite dinosaur anyone?

still temple
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Zhenyuanlong > all other gliders

sleek ingot
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In general not just the game

paper oriole
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If we get arboreals and gliders he's a good candidate

pale sorrel
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@neat beacon It could be a good suggestion, but I think it could also get pretty annoying if you keep getting leeches, couldn't it?

neat beacon
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If you stay in waters for long amounts of time

paper oriole
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Not sure i have a fave, orinthomimids are up there for me

still temple
neat beacon
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if you sit in water leeches will get on ya

sleek ingot
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Mmm yis

paper oriole
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Compus could help pluck leeches

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Some dinos like austro could pick their own leeches

sleek ingot
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It kinda sucks compy won't be doing damage

honest sparrow
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my mans asked for a spanish channel

sleek ingot
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I mean yeah it would do nothing really

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But like, it would feel off with a biting animation

opaque blaze
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Are there different language channels, then?

paper oriole
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If parasites become a thing, laying near compy ai as a large dino could cause them to pluck you clean

sleek ingot
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I hope disease and infection becomes a thing

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From certain causes mostly

honest sparrow
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as long as it isn't rng

paper oriole
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Only if its punishment for doing things wrong ir maybe from cerato bite for infection

sleek ingot
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Is the necrotic bite from Ceratosaurus a confirmed thing?

paper oriole
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Random diseases are annoying, esoecially if they cost youvyour dinos life

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I hope so, would be a nice way to reward cera for eating rot

sleek ingot
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Cerato: It tastes so gross, but so good!

paper oriole
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Cerato eating rancid meat like I eat McDonalds “why am i eating this.. why can't i stop”

sleek ingot
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So does this mean Compy won't be able to eat putrid meat?

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It only will scavenge fresh meat?

paper oriole
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Special perks being rewarded from sticking to certain diets in general would be good for some animals

I thought compy was going to be an all-goes scavenger who eats from any source, maybe not tho

still temple
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rugops septic bite wen

honest sparrow
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rugops more like when

sleek ingot
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I'd love to have Rugops

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But everyone seems against it

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It would fair as a better scavenger if you ask me

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Not powerful enough to fight off other predators larger than it, just always there to annoy you when you're eating lmao

honest sparrow
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it's because it's smaller cera

paper oriole
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Rugops would fill cera's similar niche at a smaller tier i'd think

sleek ingot
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And I don't see why everyone thing Ceratosaurus should be the only large scavenger based dinosaur, there can. e room for Rugops anyways

paper oriole
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Like its 14fr cera is 20 something

sleek ingot
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Be*

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Well Rugops might be larger than the current estimates. Iirc there are larger estimates, but we can't assume that anyhow.

paper oriole
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Rugops looks like an opportunistic scavenger+small prey hunter just like cera, no reason cera should be the only one

sleek ingot
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Plus Carnotaurus is the only Abelisaur currently. It would be nice to have a smaller one.

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It doesn't have to eat rotting flesh like Ceratosaurus, it would just be a scavenger in general, but prefers meat that's more fresh

covert birch
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My only issue with rugops is mono
Who we have no idea what they plan to do with yet, may go down a similar route as the rugops suggestion but smaller

sleek ingot
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It would be interesting to be a Giga just eating the para you killed and just slowly you see a few Rugops randomly appear, watching you and waiting for you to leave so they can consume the remains

paper oriole
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Rugops could be small prey hunter first, scavenger second. Cera could be scavenger first, small prey hunter second, each prioritizing a different half more

covert birch
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Imo would be the opposite

paper oriole
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Maybe

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Either way

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Would set them apart more

covert birch
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True

sleek ingot
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I'm sure regardless in reality Rugops couldn't rely on scavenging all the time

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There had to be some sort of game it hunted

covert birch
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still would rather wait until we have info on what mono would do

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Cuz mono seems like a dino they would go the whole scavenger route with

sleek ingot
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Still, Rugops would be nice to have for a scavenger option

paper oriole
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Venom immunity mono would be cool

covert birch
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Mongoose mono is interesting
But dondi mentioned in a stream that no dino will have more venom resistance than another

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outside of elder perks

sleek ingot
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They had a model for it, it would be nice to see it not go to waste

paper oriole
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Shame

sleek ingot
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Tbh I'm not the biggest fan of the elder concept

paper oriole
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Venom resistance/immunity would have been a good perk for a couple dinos

sleek ingot
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I like the growing old and dying idea and carrying on small perks

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But the whole idea of it becoming extremely powerful at first I'm not a fan of

covert birch
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Im fine with it as long as it remains optional
And i get that technically it is optional since ya gotta do tasks but if those tasks are also what you need to do to survive then its not completely optional

sleek ingot
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Sure it could be stronger than one of it's kind, but like, if an Elder Rex were to be powerful enough to kill two normal rexes with ease, that just seems like too much

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Iirc I heard the elder option is optional and will be a server selected thing

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But don't quote me on it

covert birch
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I doubt elder rex will go up to that powerful

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All we know is "jedi among stormtroopers"

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Prolly can beat one regular rex but 2 would have a hard time

sleek ingot
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If it is stronger than a single rex by a slight margin that seems find

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Fine*

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But they shouldn't basically become mini hypos or something

covert birch
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Plus remember its not like your stronger for an extended period of time

sleek ingot
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Yeah you grow weaker

covert birch
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its like a spike then you slowly get weaker and weaker until your under your base adult

sleek ingot
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And then you take a dirt nap

covert birch
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shmeme

sleek ingot
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OcEaN mAn

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Honestly

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I want no feature more than sleeping

covert birch
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Sleeping they gotta concept for

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Or at least kissen does

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but that stuff is wayyyy farther into the future

sleek ingot
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Whether or not it would be required idc, I just want the option to be an Albertosaurus by a riverbed or something lol.

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Taking a s n o o z e

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What about Corythosaurus

covert birch
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Replaced by para

sleek ingot
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I get there would be little things to make it unique but they still had a model with a skin correct

covert birch
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would be a skin if anything

sleek ingot
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RIP Cory boi

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I remember way in the past someone said that they were gonna replace the Alberto with Daspleto

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What a horrible idea lol

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Doubt it was ever really a thing but

covert birch
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Nah albert is one of dondis favs

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they wont replace him

sleek ingot
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Yeah that one video

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He borderline had an orgasm saying Albertosaurus

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I doubt Dondi will ever give up on it

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Albertosaurus might just be my favorite dinosaur tbh

pale sorrel
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@opaque blaze I'm not sure if it's the same with dinosaurs

sleek ingot
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A slender Tyrannosaur built for speed opposed to raw power and bulk is a lot more appealing to me

honest sparrow
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rip that guy

paper oriole
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F

indigo sun
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What happened

somber parrot
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@barren zephyr Please do not tag Admins if you don't have a problem. Also, we are not going to add channels for different languages, as we would need to have admins talking that language to moderate them.

indigo sun
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Ah

cobalt compass
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@covert birch 👍
hope that makes it somewhere in time in the game

covert birch
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Filipe did a dondiThink last night when i gave just a tldr of the locust thin

barren zephyr
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Oh ok thanks

cobalt compass
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yea i think i saw that

slow snow
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Locust would be interesting for carnis if they know the path they can ambush herbis on their way to a different zone

silent current
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@neat beacon why not make it so you have to go into salt water to get leeches off c;

neat beacon
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Cause ya can also get it off with mudbaths

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And why walk all the way to the ocean when you can just mudbath

silent current
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yeah then it becomes less a risk to get leeches off it's a jungle

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it's got plenty of mud

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also wallowing is gonna play a huge role in recovering bleed

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so in the end you just shrug leeches even being an actual threeat

neat beacon
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It's just supposed to stop growin in water mostly

frosty igloo
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what if another even would be a ship crash

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this would mean that a ship crashes at the bay and supplies fall out

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or a bloom event where everything grows

covert birch
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Mito i didnt mention stuff like that b/c they arent really controlled/caused by ai

frosty igloo
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oh ok

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Still love your idea

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I wish we had even more events like the ones you mentioned

vast wolf
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will have a picture for the stun grenade in a moment

marble flame
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I wonder what your history looks like now

icy lion
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@full salmon we'll be able to tear chunks off of corpses, but tug of wars wont happen since itll be a programming/server nightmare, sadly

left nacelle
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I put an X on the reaction. Cause as Superlunary said, it can't happen

full salmon
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Oh

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I didn’t know that sorry

left nacelle
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Plus, it would need to be a real small corpse for you to play tug of war with it. Utahraptor corpse at the largest

full salmon
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Or like 2 rexes going at a Tenoto body etc

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That’s a bummer, it would be kinda cool if they were able to make it

left nacelle
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@worn token Any sort of turtle-shaped animal is hard to animate. That's one of the reason Bryan dislikes Ankylosaurus. If it's hard to animate, it probably isn't gonna be added. Especially since it's a mammal

strange wave
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prehistoric wildlife dondiSquint

left nacelle
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Oh yeah, prehistoric wildlife's size charts are very inaccurate

covert birch
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@worn token A: hard to animate
B: PW = inaccurate size chart
C: Most importantly, Dondi said no mammals

valid zephyr
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devs said no mammals

covert birch
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Plus that is just anky but weaker

valid zephyr
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I love doed, but it doesnt fit.

worn token
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oof I tried

valid zephyr
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its a nice and detailed suggestion

worn token
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doed bad animal xd

strange wave
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its a great suggestion, better than any recent yutyrannus ones

covert birch
valid zephyr
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doed good animal, just one the scientists in the lore wont have cloned.

worn token
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I feel we could so with a good old feathered ai

covert birch
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what?

worn token
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do**

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not so mb

strange wave
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what?

covert birch
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Why ai?
More dinos will be getting feathered options in hte future

honest sparrow
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bro if I see one more yut suggestion, I'm gonna blow

covert birch
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Regarding my AI world event suggestion
Doesnt anyone know of more mass migrating animals who can play a heavy roll in effecting how other animals or the enviorment is?
would like to add more but cant think of any examples

honest sparrow
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wildebeest

worn token
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megalapteryx?

covert birch
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Wildebeest is practically the mass herd migrations

honest sparrow
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wildebeest have a massive impact on the african plains

covert birch
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Megalapteryx would prolly function as a worse utah or carno ingame

worn token
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well its a herbivore

covert birch
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Oh really?

honest sparrow
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the great sardine run also works

worn token
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mhm its like a giant feathered bird

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that climb mountians

honest sparrow
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oh it;s the moa

covert birch
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Well ik the moa is a just emu

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But thought it would be omni at least instead of just herbi

worn token
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isnt it extinct tho?

honest sparrow
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ye

covert birch
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Yes its extinct

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Now issue with it being herbi is that galli exists

worn token
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feathered galli y e s

honest sparrow
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galli could be made omni

valid zephyr
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isn't omni galli disproved?

honest sparrow
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game

covert birch
worn token
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I feel like it would eat smol bugs (galli)

covert birch
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Even if its disproved moa would literally just be galli, but diff appearence

valid zephyr
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600kg, fast, using slashes and grapples

honest sparrow
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na falcarius is better

covert birch
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Nothronychus is a better option imo

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Theres this cool fred art that made it like an anteater

valid zephyr
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Falcarius is basically beip. almost same weight

worn token
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fred is all of a sudden "the" talk

covert birch
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well hes a dev so idk whats the issue with fred being "the talk"

honest sparrow
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it's beipi's drunk uncle

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which is perfect

worn token
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honestly though all our ai has been non feathered

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and we have more feathered stuff coming

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so it would be cool

valid zephyr
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omnis need a whole bunch of things imo. so far it's only ovi and beip

covert birch
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ORo, hypsi, ai exist

honest sparrow
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and even then beip is strongly leading herbi

covert birch
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Nothronychus as an omni who is more of an insectivore would be great

valid zephyr
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gigantoraptor, tupan, and cheirus would be three good omnis.

strange wave
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honestly though all our ai has been non feathered
@worn token orodromeus

covert birch
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I still dont agree with giganto or cheri until we know exactly how diet system works for omni

honest sparrow
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eh, I don't really see the need for a giant omni

valid zephyr
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I mean cheirus adds something that's not just a pure meat eater to live around water

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water is just a giant canri fest atm.

honest sparrow
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beip

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and possibly minmi

covert birch
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Yes, but again that depends on how its diet works

valid zephyr
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yep spino and deino will live off beips.

covert birch
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And the large size is my main concern depending on hopw the system works

valid zephyr
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spino and deino need big challenging prey. cheirus suits that.

covert birch
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I mean, i can see cheri preferring to run from spino

honest sparrow
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spino can go wherever it wants, so at some point it's gonna find something

worn token
covert birch
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Cuz spino is literally cherry, but bigger and a carni

valid zephyr
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I think omnis should essentially get less choice of plants to eat, and only be able to eat meat they can swallow in one go (no ripping off chunks)

honest sparrow
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omni spino

covert birch
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Ehh comrade ide rather omnis have a large variety when it comes to diet systems

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Which is why im more of a wait n see

valid zephyr
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that is a large variety.

silent current
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mole theri

honest sparrow
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Yeah, we'll have to see how diet works out

valid zephyr
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fruit, berries, eggs, water plants, any meat they can swallow

covert birch
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No i mena like
Beipi eats one manner
Gignato eats another manner
Troodon eats in another manner
Etc

valid zephyr
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I don't want omnis to just be carni/herbi +

covert birch
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Like every omni has somewhat different dietary systems

valid zephyr
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risk is omnis just being better.

honest sparrow
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yeah

valid zephyr
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omni troodon?

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wut?

honest sparrow
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possible troodon omni

covert birch
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It aint confirmed but i like the concept

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Troodon being omni leaning heavily to carni

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but being able to supplement with plants every so often maybe with that being how it gets its venom

honest sparrow
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I mean herbis eat meat on occasion and carnis will eat fruit if they can

valid zephyr
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I think cheiruses diet could work if it's limited to water plants, fish, and any small animals it can swallow in one go.

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so if it kills a para, it can't eat it

covert birch
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Like that i can see it function

honest sparrow
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yeah that makes sense

covert birch
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But im still waiting to see how the dietary sustem for omnis works before i make a decision

left nacelle
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Crocs are known to randomly eat fruit irl. Maybe Deino can be very very slightly omni dondiTroll

covert birch
honest sparrow
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oh yeah cherry for sure runs from spino

covert birch
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Yea spino can literally do what cheri does, but bigger

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Cheri i can see slapping away other stuff tho

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And using its hands to beat deino

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In a similar sense to spino

valid zephyr
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cheirus would be faster on land, no bite attack, eats plants too, and can't live in the water

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no diving under

covert birch
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nah itsa wader boi

strange wave
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i swear i keep seeing devs names flash in this chat

valid zephyr
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cheirus and spino are more different than rex/giga

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or utah and dilo

covert birch
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Cheri is more similar to sucho

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But brought up to apex size

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And made into an omni

honest sparrow
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yeah

covert birch
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question:
is there any kind of tropical bird that migrates in mass, enough to cover a quetz or somethin high in the air

honest sparrow
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hmmm

vast wolf
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mammals are a no-go aside from humans and possibly rats. doedicurus is pretty similar to an ankylosaur anyway.

covert birch
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we covered the doed thin already

honest sparrow
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I know there are birds that migrate en masse to africa and europe each year

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there is also a type falcon that flies an incredibly long distance migrating

vast wolf
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there was a species of bird that lived in flocks of millions in the usa. sadly the passenger pigeon is extinct now.

honest sparrow
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Ah

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Pelicans

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Pelicans work wonderfully

vast wolf
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pelicans dont migrate in very large flocks though.

honest sparrow
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bitch

covert birch
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yea preferably something in large flocks

honest sparrow
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I saw a giant flock of pelicans a few months ago

covert birch
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I wanna add to my "ai world events" suggestion some kinda mass migrating bird that flyers can use as cover in the air

honest sparrow
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I mean, geese work

covert birch
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Also what is it called when crabs go onto beaches in mass

vast wolf
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apparently tundra swans migrate from the artic down the east coast in flocks of around 100.

honest sparrow
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horseshoe crabs?

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yeah those guys could work

covert birch
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any crab

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But horseshoe is best

honest sparrow
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another birb is starlings

covert birch
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Would the horseshoe crab thing be too similar to the sabretooth salmon one?

vast wolf
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seems that its just called a migration

honest sparrow
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hmmm

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Horseshoe crabs would probably be better for terrestrial preds than sabertooth salmon migration

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like herra, troodon, velo, etc would get a kick out of it

covert birch
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Ehh not really
Doubt they can break open the shells

honest sparrow
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flip them over

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and also probing for eggs

covert birch
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Probing for shellfish on beaches could be interesting

vast wolf
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probing for horseshoe crab eggs is inefficient unless your tiny.

honest sparrow
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which is why rhamp should be add-

covert birch
vast wolf
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id call compy the largest possible thing that could work well.

covert birch
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But yea egg probing aint really good, the crab meat can function tho with the whole flippin over bit

honest sparrow
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seems legit

vast wolf
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still you have to be tiny to get much benefit from eating parts of the crab. not much meat.

honest sparrow
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which is why small preds go for it

covert birch
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@prisma wharf
1: packs should do team damage so people actually have to coordinate more to not friendly fire
2: Cnat just say X animal without adding detail
3: prehistoric wildlife sizecharts are bad
4: that wouldnt be an apex
5: nor is it actually a raptor, but a megaraptora (which is a complete diff family)

strange wave
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another completely useless suggestion

honest sparrow
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yep

strange wave
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how many is that this week

honest sparrow
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420

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seems like quality is out and quantity is in

vast wolf
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the devs already confirmed packmates will never deal no damage to each other.

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so what were the thoughts on my idea for non lethal throwable weapons?

opaque blaze
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@prisma wharf Somewhat agree on the team-damage. When you'd attack you'd not go and bite a friendly irl. So maybe less damage

honest sparrow
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Ummm

covert birch
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reduced damage is confirmed for in fighting
But not like pack hunting

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Also, throwable stun grenades sound like an easy to abuse thing

honest sparrow
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yeah, it's like infinite mccree flashbangs

vast wolf
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if you bite your packmate you still bite them. just dont aim for them and you wont hit them.

opaque blaze
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Assuming the hitboxes are less wacky

covert birch
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Throws stun grenade -> stuns X animal -> rex bud your mixpacking with has a nom

strange wave
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thoughts on my mini cerato-carno suggestion

covert birch
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Rugops = bad until we know what mono does

vast wolf
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well no. a flashbang would deafen and blind anything in the immediate explosion radius.

honest sparrow
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I feel like smokes would work better for non-lethals

covert birch
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flashbang works
But a full on stun grenade no

strange wave
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i think the septic bite thing could work for mono if it doesn't have anything yet

honest sparrow
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Even though mongoose mono isn't likely, I still would love it

vast wolf
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mono has a planned mechanic but we dont know what it is as of yet

covert birch
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Mono has nothing going for it that we know of
Kissen said it was the forgotten boi iirc

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wait nvm it was proto

vast wolf
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mono proto homalo minmi and kentro to an extent are unknown

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kentro mono and proto were the forgotten ones

honest sparrow
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ye

junior crow
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I like the idea of septic bite

vast wolf
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we know minmi will have something to do with water. weather its food or movement based we dont know. and kentro we can assume has some form of damage reduction/counter damage with its spikes.

junior crow
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rugops would be cool but I can see that ability being used for mono

covert birch
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Septic bite as a mechanic is cool
But imo dino suggestions in general should be held off till we know what plans for the 14 new dinos are

junior crow
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agreed

vast wolf
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rugops is still going to be a long way off if its added. personally i like it a lot.

strange wave
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the idea with the septic bite idea, was an ability with slight debuffs that would build over time and if not cared for would fuck over the user

vast wolf
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i do like majungasauridae more than carnotaurine though.

covert birch
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Plus if we do need any specific carnis imo it should be like presto or a megaraptor
Since we lack stuff in their familys

junior crow
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wasn't there some fan made dossier of rugops posted here like waaaaay back

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it said like the same stuff bork was saying

covert birch
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Yea there was

junior crow
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it was really nice

honest sparrow
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I'm all for a megarataroid

junior crow
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I think I have it saved on my pc

vast wolf
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idk. rugops was originally going to be majung back in 2017.

junior crow
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wish I knew who made it

strange wave
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i just want all the origin tsl bois to do something similar to the concepts

vast wolf
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they scrapped majung started to model rugops and then left it after i had its model.

junior crow
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I DID NOT MAKE THIS! If anyone knows who made this I will credit them immediatley

Edit: Made by Flaffy

strange wave
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damn

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didn't know that existed

honest sparrow
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same

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well made

junior crow
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its from waaay back maybe 2017?

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a lot of potential

covert birch
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@prisma wharf what?

junior crow
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found it

strange wave
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da fack

junior crow
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it was made by a user named Flaffy

covert birch
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Yea was thinking it was flaffy

strange wave
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oh flaffy

prisma wharf
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Nearly 3 meters tall

covert birch
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Practically the same

strange wave
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and the minmi one iirc

covert birch
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Yes

honest sparrow
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oh that's what lurdu is

strange wave
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oh that's what lurdu is
@honest sparrow the overweight midget iguanodon

honest sparrow
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yeah

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nothing compared to big ig

prisma wharf
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I'd say there's an extra 0.5 metres missing in scale

covert birch
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Svend, idk how large sin was
My issue is sinraptor (at least the niche you want) is way too specifc
And the animal itself would be a clone to allo

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Since sinraptor (a megaraptor iirc) would focus on arm combat such as grabs which allo is literally gonna be doing via grapple

strange wave
#

he thinks its a dromeosaur

honest sparrow
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Yeah

covert birch
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He doesnt

honest sparrow
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he edited it

junior crow
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same thing with Tarvo and Yuty, as much as I love them they are too similar niche wise to Allo

honest sparrow
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but it said "apex raptor"

strange wave
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or atleast thats what im getting from "apex raptor"

covert birch
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same thing with Tarvo and Yuty, as much as I love them they are too similar niche wise to Allo
^^^

prisma wharf
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I meant the apex raptor in name rather than species, functionally rushing down rather than the methodical pack hunting of an allo

covert birch
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I mean, with allos insane speed buff they seem to be making it a rush down hunter

honest sparrow
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yeah, much more ambush based then endurance it seems

covert birch
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^

strange wave
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I meant the apex raptor in name rather than species, functionally rushing down rather than the methodical pack hunting of an allo
@prisma wharf pack hunting isn't a niche, every dino needs to be able to operate solo efficiently or its not viable

covert birch
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Imo the best megaraptorid that can work is siats
But that completely depends on how acro is made

prisma wharf
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I'm not going off prediction, right now there's realistically no predator to dilos, my intent is that dilos really need to have some sort of predator

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Say that to cerato

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And future maggy

honest sparrow
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I mean Australo can work, but not everyone is fond of the idea

strange wave
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And future maggy
@prisma wharf it doesn't need a group to be viable

covert birch
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Cerato: Gonna be reworked like all survival animals
Magy: Can survive without a group to be viable

honest sparrow
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somehow

prisma wharf
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It can't run from gigas, yet they'd be insta boddied

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Maggy bad animal

covert birch
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Magy can outrun gigas

strange wave
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It can't run from gigas, yet they'd be insta boddied
@prisma wharf current giga, is gone

covert birch
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Allos is more of an issue

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Also giga is rgetting a complete rework

honest sparrow
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allo is an issue

strange wave
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new giga is not the speed demon it is now

prisma wharf
#

You're saying a pygmy sauropod can outrun a giga

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That's silly

covert birch
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Your saying it cant?

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Sauropod =/= slow

prisma wharf
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It sounds ridiculous

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It does

strange wave
#

It sounds ridiculous
@prisma wharf so do you right now

covert birch
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Not in magys case

strange wave
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sauropods can be quick, like it or not

honest sparrow
#

the dev said it

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so no point in arguing

prisma wharf
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Most sauropods have issues with having 3 feet on the ground all the time or else it breaks it's ankles

covert birch
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Magy, at least the isles rendition of it
Would be able to outrun apexs
(and kissen said outrun allos but i doubt that)

honest sparrow
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Most sauropods have issues with having 3 feet on the ground all the time or else it breaks it's ankles
@prisma wharf it's because those are huge

junior crow
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i love magy but I for the life of me can't see it outrunning an allo

strange wave
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Most sauropods have issues with having 3 feet on the ground all the time or else it breaks it's ankles
@prisma wharf most sauropod have to hold multiple tons of weight on three legs

covert birch
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Remember magy is cerato sized

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Loses movement issues weight wise

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Anatomy is an issue
But devs have shown plenty of times to overlook anatomy to make an animal viable

prisma wharf
#

Ngl I'm echoing points from the anky is a bad animal video

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But point still stands

strange wave
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oh great

prisma wharf
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Dilo has no natural predators

junior crow
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I actually have a good suggestion for Magy which I want to write down after my uni finals are iver

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tbf the pesky anky video brought up multiple valid points

honest sparrow
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Dilo has no natural predators
@prisma wharf rex has no natural predators, neither does giga, acro, or spino... oh wait

junior crow
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and no one here is saying that Magy should not be in the game

strange wave
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Dilo has no natural predators
@prisma wharf yes it does

covert birch
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"Dilo has no natural predators"
even tho allos, ceratos even, utahs, etc can actually kill it if done properly
Same with apexs

Plus dilo will be functioning completely differently within recode

strange wave
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maiasaura is dilos natural predator

covert birch
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Maia exists too

prisma wharf
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Dilo and utahs have no issue killing rexes

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I ain't even a rex main, that just sucks

strange wave
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Dilo and utahs have no issue killing rexes
@prisma wharf oh look a no alt turn server

covert birch
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They will in recode svend

junior crow
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that im sure will be different in the recode

covert birch
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Very different

junior crow
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^

covert birch
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Locational damage, forced alt turn, regular bites not being main source of damage, etc stop that

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oh and dont forget trample damage and fixed hitboxes

prisma wharf
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Alt turn makes apexes functionally untouchable to other non-apexes, that's why it's being reworked

covert birch
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Ehh kinda

strange wave
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Alt turn makes apexes functionally untouchable to other non-apexes, that's why it's being reworked
@prisma wharf to turn faster and be forced

covert birch
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Only giga really faces that issue

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Rex alt turn is fine tho

honest sparrow
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rex alt turn is fine yeah

covert birch
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and alt turn isnt used in combat as much as people seem to believe

vestal rune
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ye I think giga's ridiculous alt turn is a problem with giga and not a problem with alt turn in general

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just another reason why giga's really OP

covert birch
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Which is why giga is gettin a rework

strange wave
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giga is a problem in general

prisma wharf
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So I speak for non alt-turn servers as they give smaller dinos a lot of possibilities to punch up

covert birch
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but they dont need it?

vestal rune
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that's dumb though, larger dinos should have the advantage

covert birch
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A utah shouldnt be able to kill a rex solo

vestal rune
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smaller dinos can run away

covert birch
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Or in groups easily

prisma wharf
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I'm not saying it's an issue, but the combat should scale to sizing better than a single dilo

honest sparrow
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no alt servers are cursed

covert birch
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Oh well thats changing completely yes svend

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Hell dondi said something along the lines of
"You may have a utah megapack, but when that rex comes along and you fight it you may kill it, but most of you will have died"

vestal rune
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btw do you know how we will activate the new "quick turns"?

covert birch
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just click a and d

vestal rune
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ah

strange wave
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playing on no alt turn and saying dilos are op is hypocrisy at its finest

prisma wharf
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But I don't want to destroy everything as a giga, like why even play strategy if I can press alt?

covert birch
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Idk why no alt vs alt needs to be discussed anyways

Alt turn is being forced on all servers so

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Cuz giga isnt op just b/c alt

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The trot is what does it

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Literally outrots a majority of the roster

vestal rune
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ye giga is OP in so many ways, if it was only its fast alt turn it wouldn't be that bad

prisma wharf
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I'm just leaving the fact the alt turn would've needed better implementation, which it is getting

covert birch
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Yes, that is true
Current alt turn is quite dondiYikes

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Like look at sucho giga n allo
Fuckin madmen

strange wave
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poor trike

prisma wharf
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I feel like to balance trotting, there needs to be a definition for what hunting is

covert birch
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Ehhh cant really define such a varied thing

prisma wharf
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There should be a kill distance (in which the better dino gets the kill in sprint) if one dino completely outclasses the other, with that distance getting smaller the more the difference in dino is

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And by that definition giga is op

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Because everything can run out of stamina eventually

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Before the gigas catch up

covert birch
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I mean, it depends on what giga is exactly chasing

strange wave
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thats not a good idea

prisma wharf
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assuming gigas will always see the prey, the gigas can catch up

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Which is the Op part

covert birch
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Yes, by that logic it is
Issue is that isnt always the case

strange wave
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luckily giga is getting a rework

covert birch
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Cuz certain stuff can just run far distant enough

prisma wharf
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I'd say that the principle enough is giving giga an unfair advantage

covert birch
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Giga is getting a complete rework tho
We dont know anything about it other than model changes

strange wave
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and it won't walk like it has a stick shoved up its ass

covert birch
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Yea giga prolly gonna get a heavy trot nerf with the rework

strange wave
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i remember a while back before the recode started dondi said something about everything getting slowed down a bit

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especially giga

covert birch
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Everything is getting faster

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except rex

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Who is staying about the same

strange wave
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then ^ happened

barren zephyr
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Finally

paper oriole
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Wtf is with people wanting friendly fire removed

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Probably shitty hunters

prisma wharf
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I assume giga is going to still be able to escape a rex in that situation, cus the hit and run playstyle of giga definitely needs to be preserved in that sense

paper oriole
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Who choose shitty pack mates

barren zephyr
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So every Dino is getting faster nice

prisma wharf
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It's more you can't protect high bleed packmates

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And honestly I only have issues with dilos with that matter

paper oriole
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If a pack mate hits you or vice versa, tough luck you shoulda coordinated better

prisma wharf
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In a hypothetical situation where in a team fight against dilos, yes it is their fault, but with the poor visibility and high bleed situations, it becomes impossible to save packmates, which is against the pack mentality as you just give up on your packmate and leave them for dead

paper oriole
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Such specific situations dont justify removing friendly fire, sometimes shit happens and a pack mate gets bit that's life

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Dilos dont take long to grow anyway, neither do utahs or other pack swarmers

prisma wharf
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I agree with that idea now, but dilos really shouldn't be that oppressive

opaque blaze
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Means you can't help a team-mate against an ass-rider, either

covert birch
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Good thing you can just alt turn to deal with an assrider

prisma wharf
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Especially with liberal pack sizing

paper oriole
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Ass riders wont be as much of an issue with locational, trample and the inability to toggle alt turn in servers

covert birch
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And again, dilos wont be as oppressive anymore due to completely new mechanics coming

prisma wharf
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The main idea with ass riding is that it is a skill, the issue with it is right now there isn't a counter without alt-turn

paper oriole
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There wont be changes made to this current version of the game to fix assriding

prisma wharf
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Lemme just have a stroke real quick

paper oriole
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lol

covert birch
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Smols wont be soloin bigs anymore b/c
A: alt turn being forced makes that hard
B: locational damage makes biting the ass do almost no damage
C: collison wont allow the smalls to be literally inside the rex anymore
D: Trample will allow the smalls to die if stepped on
E: Regular bites wont be doing as much damage anymore compared to stam attacks n such

paper oriole
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If i recall correctly, alt turn won't be able to be turned off anymore, i think i remember dondi saying that at some point

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So it will be 👌

covert birch
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it cant be turned off whatsoever, part of basic movement systems now

paper oriole
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Excellent

prisma wharf
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Is there any reason to punch upper weight classes then?

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Like acros versus rexes?

covert birch
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What?

prisma wharf
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I feel as if rexes just cannot be touched

covert birch
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punch upper weights?

paper oriole
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Packs will still be able to take on large dinos

covert birch
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Rexs arent meant to be touches outside of apexs, psuedo apex and midtier packs, and massive tiny packs

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Nothing outside of other apexs will be able to 1v1 apexs

paper oriole
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Troodons for example will be able to take on mid tiers i heard

covert birch
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Yes in packs

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B/c venom be stronk

paper oriole
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Yeah in packs

prisma wharf
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But what if a rex is max packing

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Is there anything that can go after them?

covert birch
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what?

paper oriole
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Like packs of rexes

prisma wharf
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Yeah

paper oriole
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Like the trios in nycta raping everybody

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Hunger will be a challenge

covert birch
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Well remember that apexs wont be easy to grow anymore

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So a a group of apexs will be rare

paper oriole
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Ai wont spawn on hungry preds anymore, they will have to actively search

covert birch
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Combined with food to need to support the apexs

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Theyll prolly split

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And even then other apexs packs, massive midtier packs, and god sized packs of small tiers
Can prolly take em, but at extremely heavy risk

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But remember the game is going in the route of an actual survival game instead of a deathmatch

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so the matchups are inherently going to be "fair"

paper oriole
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Also afking will make you take longer to grow so that will prune some of the apex base

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Uh

covert birch
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you are nikson

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Literally look at your past messages

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Shows it all

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(2nd time someone tries to hide their identity via nickname and fail miserably b/c message search exists)

prisma wharf
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What do you guys think is an acceptable apex pack size?

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Because all the apexes are really oppressive

covert birch
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2-3

paper oriole
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2 rexes with 1-2 subs max i think

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Same with giga

covert birch
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pack limits wont exist rule wise anymore (on officials at least)
b/c food will be what determines pack size

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Official rules bein replaced by mechanics = 👌

prisma wharf
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^

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If the community picks that up, that'd be gucci

paper oriole
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Hopefully seeing 3 rexes/gigas will be a big rarity lol

prisma wharf
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I think that can only come when the apexes are less effective against mid-tiers

covert birch
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and his account it seems

prisma wharf
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I'm honestly ok with the idea that herds can be absolutely huge so that apexes and mid-tiers are less of a strain on the ecosystem, without them the carnis will just starve to death

torn thistle
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Goat / Nikson, are you starting things up again?

prisma wharf
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Issue will probably be lag

covert birch
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nah he isnt bhal

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just tryin to pretend he aint nikson is all

torn thistle
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Ah.

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Considering I've had our DM messages open since you've been Nikson, I feel this is a silly argument that should move on to something more on-topic

prisma wharf
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Nice name

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Anyways, I'm excited to see how large herds affect the game

covert birch
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MAssive herds bulldozing through a forest is all i hope for

prisma wharf
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Like how everything will likely revolve around a herd

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How sizing depicts what dino you pick off

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How gores left from herds encourage scavenging

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Because scavenging is really underutilised in terms of it's predicted scale in real-life

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It's limited to juvis and maybe raptors

covert birch
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Scavenging is completely changed with how corspes work now

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Rotten corpses, ripping of chunks of corpses, etc allow for many things to scavenge more efficiently

prisma wharf
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If given the incentive to attack dinos of a similar weight class instead of just a bunch of smaller ones, it'll be an extremely fun update for herbies and carnos alike

covert birch
torn thistle
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Am I gonna need to slap you and your alt with Read Only?

covert birch
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yes work on something related to isle suggestions

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Considering I've had our DM messages open since you've been Nikson, I feel this is a silly argument that should move on to something more on-topic
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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Hes been told to talk about something on topic
Still is talking about this whole name thing

harsh silo
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the alt accounts teosPrank

honest sparrow
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alt accounts?

junior crow
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I mean if someone said they were gonna mute you from talking in the server by a mod it might make you want to at least ask why

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unless this has been going on for a while

harsh silo
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i mean someone said that's an alt account, probably isn't

covert birch
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Good 5 mins pyro

harsh silo
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but it's funny since ppl have actually done alt accounts before

torn thistle
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Anyway, moving on from that whole dumb argument

harsh silo
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oh, bhaltair now that u are here, maybe u can help me

covert birch
honest sparrow
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food

junior crow
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what like washed up sea animals?

covert birch
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Nah crabs in mass goin on the beach for "spawning season"
But just as a rare even that provides food and promotes in-fighting

harsh silo
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I know this is offtopic but Imma drop this in case u can give me a hand bhaltair, i've had a perma slow mode for days, i left the server a sometime ago, when it was announced that CCs would get evrima access, i left after the big slow mode was taken down, I just can't speak in general chat anymore. teosSad

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Also I like the idea of the AI events, if done properly ofc

junior crow
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I don't see why not, Saurian has the beached Mosa you can find and eat so having things like that happen would be cool

covert birch
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Cant believe i forgot bout beached whales n shit as an event type thing

honest sparrow
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rip the liopluerodon

harsh silo
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Like, big AI herds migrating, or fish migrating upstream, to help with piscivores

torn thistle
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I personally wouldn't mind something like Bary or Sucho having the ability to dig up animals from the mud, like big crabs or lungfish

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or Austro, I guess

honest sparrow
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instead of wallowing you search for food

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neat

harsh silo
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I know this is offtopic but Imma drop this in case u can give me a hand bhaltair, i've had a perma slow mode for days, i left the server a sometime ago, when it was announced that CCs would get evrima access, i left after the big slow mode was taken down, I just can't speak in general chat anymore. teosSad
ok it works now, idk if someone did smth but it works, nvm all this

prisma wharf
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I'd say in drought, it should take note of how many fish die and have them be excavatable in the river bed

harsh silo
covert birch
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That would be cool, same with frogs n such

honest sparrow
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lungfish would be really neat

covert birch
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A massive rhizodus who can do stuff like a lungfish would be cool

torn thistle
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I did have an idea for the lungfish when I was trying to come up with a desert map idea a long ways back, but I kinda lost the doc I had set up for it

covert birch
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desert lungfish?

prisma wharf
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Anyone thought of how sarcos migrate?

covert birch
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Wouldnt it dry out

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Sarcos?

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You mean deino right

prisma wharf
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Yea

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I think it would be a sarco

torn thistle
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Well, the African Lungfish makes a cocoon made of mucus, then hibernates until the rain comes

covert birch
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Well there are "water highways" which connect a shitton of waterways on the map

honest sparrow
covert birch
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Deino wont be migrating on land much tho, since they made it somewhat of an amphibian and it "drys up" on land

covert birch
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ye Chad rhizodus

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prolly one of the best options of fish that can actually function as a playable

prisma wharf
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Reminds me of a smaller Leedsichthys

covert birch
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Arent most fish just smaller leeds

honest sparrow
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tis true

prisma wharf
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Good point

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Ngl was trying to segway to it XD

covert birch
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well leed itself as an animal will never happen

honest sparrow
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leedsicthys is never coming

covert birch
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since dondi said no filter feeders

honest sparrow
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the one time I'm slower

prisma wharf
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Makes sense from a gameplay perspective

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It would literally be 1D

covert birch
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yea just holding w to get food aint much of a gameplaty

honest sparrow
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it is for afk growers

covert birch
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But imo filter feeders can be a good equivalent to aquatic "herbis"
Basically shrimp clouds can function just like bushes do now

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But less common and larger ofc

prisma wharf
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There does need to be herbie equivalents or else the water meta will just be too volatile

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The most deadly predator will always win in that case

honest sparrow
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I mean tbf a lot of ocean life is just eating smaller shit that eats smaller shit

covert birch
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yea pretty much

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There aint too many aquatic herbis which arent tiny

prisma wharf
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There does need to be an established food chain

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Unless there's like shoals of ai fish, smaller predators just cannot survive

honest sparrow
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ye "big fish eat small fish, big fish gets eaten by bigger fish"

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ai shoals are confirmed btw

prisma wharf
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Well that's settled

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It's difficult to get flavour in an aquatic meta but I see potential

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Especially if there's interaction between the river and oceans

junior crow
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id like those ceratopsians to be added too

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but @true thistle maybe try to explain your reasoning or trying to explain what niche each one will fit in?

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or what their special ability might be

strange wave
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@junior crow he has just been spamming this useless garbage all day

junior crow
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I mean he has also posted art

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in offtopic art

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and he's been talkin' in general iirc

covert birch
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@true thistle i get that you like ceratopsids but heres the thing
When suggesting stuff dont just post 3 images and leave literally 0 context

Plus proto is already confirmed

strange wave
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so is pachyrhino

indigo sun
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we @ ed him like 4 times tellin him he needs more than just the dinosaur he wants added

covert birch
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Pachy is a distnat maybe which is closer to yes than no

junior crow
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been awhile since any suggestion has been pinned

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I've seen some pretty good ones

paper oriole
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“Make rex bite 35kN” because fuck game balance right

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Do people even think before making those suggestions

honest sparrow
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No

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only a few sane people remain here

paper oriole
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Its like those people wanting giga to run 50km/h lmao

honest sparrow
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and char char/yut

paper oriole
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I really dont get the carchar appeal especially it's literally just giga from a different region? Very few differences between them

honest sparrow
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people like char char

barren zephyr
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Its 58k newtons