#general-feedback-discussion
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Zhen? Popular?
unlikely dude what were saying is it ain't gonna work that way because we don't even know what recode will be like in terms of stats
people have already posted deinonychus suggestions with those two things
Its literally never mentioned outside this discord
Zhen and Balaur aren't popular, remotely
Their all getting changed
at least from what I know blue piss off
So changing the bio for it won't change a thing
Balaur is interesting tho since i saw it was theorized to be a herbi/omni
Would be cool for 1 herbi glider and 1 carni glider
Until we actually get recode and know what the dino stats are like
Levi have you made a nychus suggestion?
So like changyuraptor carni vs balaur herbi
Tree climbing is a good way to make Nychus unique. It could also have a small glide with a good directional jump.
It would be a pretty good predator for Hypsis and be an eagle/leopard.
wheats outline for deinonychus imo is best
I won't do a suggestion but I know that Slouping will.
I'll check it out
cuz wheats outline allows also for the addition for a pure glider compared to deinon who wouldnt glider as adult
Well now it has the size of Utah so it's completely useless to play Utah because it is better.
Just, mke Nychus be real size.
So 60kg and 3 meters long, 1 meter tall.
unlikely dude we've kind of told you I really don't think you should be trying to suggest whole bio sheets on a dino when we don't even know how recode will play out or how stats will play out
Until then it's kind of a waste of your time
Not trying o be rude but it might not be wise to make an entire stats list on a dino that is 1 not even confirmed and 2 no based on the stats we'll probably be getting for recode
Deinonychus: troodon sized arboreal hunter who can pounce/ glide on prey from branches. Boom, could go in more detail
Also proposing statistics is kinda useless because the whole combat system will change : no more weight mass, new bleed, located damages, collision etc.
That's like proposing 1t Utah. Wikipedia isn't alway right.
Or 20 tons spino
let's get 5 ton troodon
200 ton brachi hell yeah
just delete the stats section, you dont need it, its just causing more problems than its solving
Yeah I agree.
Instead of "Stats explication" you could do "Mechanic Explication" because in the current state of the game we cannot talk about stats. For example Utah is going to be faster.
Better now.
People in general doesn't come back.
Actually, proposing a new dinosaur needs a lot of explication. I'm for leopard/forest eagle Deinonychus but the whole "stamina drain with bie" is already something that is coming.
Also I really don't see Deinonychus being an hunter of large things such as Allosaurus or Parasaurolophus : it would hunt smaller things than itself alone such as Hypsilophodon and large things like Maiasaura or Ceratosaurus in pack.
I mean, I know that someone will do a big Deinonychus document soon and we've talked about that in #401464048610312195 with a lot of people and we agreed to make Deinonychus like a leopard able to climb trees with a kind of glide.
No problem.
Just your first version was an Utah/Dilo.
Man thats so wierd that biome suggestion looks so familiar
Yeah, it was basically identical
Well yeah, but he put redwood and snow. He even capitalized the R and W like you did
But.... he's the one who put it first lol
Yeah... alright..
@zenith onyx Tenontosaurus is an Iguanodontid. Plus Shant fits that description perfectly
shant isn't coming back though in the recode.
heavy rework. not going to be the same. and why couldn't the iguanodon be done? they did such a good job on the tenonto.
they'd do a great job on the iguanodon
shant is coming back in the recode
and shant is op. even if it's gonna get a heavy rework
iguanadon isn;t a hadrosaur
If shant gets a rework, it's still gonna be huge, cause it was huge irl. So it'll still most likely be able to compete with apexes
Shant is op now because it isn't balanced
it's in the hadrosuar family tree
But acro is getting kicked right
@frosty igloo nope
acro is also coming back
but im not about to get to get in a heated debate. i suggested an idea that i thought was cool. end of story
but we get other long necks
but we get other long necks
after reading the TSL dossier for pue i just want it back even more
Cool it Kai. We just told you that your suggestion is pretty much already happening. I don't get why you're getting mad
because every time i post something i get attacked. saying my idea generally sucks...
Like what Im saying if they add other long neck bois maybe they will find a way to make pue work
Then try making smaller suggestions. You're usually gonna get attacked if you post animal suggestions or suggestions for game-changing features
pue is getting scrapped
I mean things change
because every time i post something i get attacked. saying my idea generally sucks...
@zenith onyx your suggestions are great, but as all thing they can be improved, atleast you aren't reposting a yutyrannus suggestion 7 time in a row
i do. every time though people dilike them though. and why not have iguanodon? tons of people woul play it.
yeah your suggestions are good ideas, just better execution
Tenonto is an Iguanodontid. So we basically already have an iguanodon
big ig
it's not hte same though
But it isn't necessary
but i understand
I think iguanodon would be cool but we have other things...
not neccesary, but I like my big ig
i would put an emphasis on a special ability for iguanodon like a grapple, or a punch that sends smaller animals flying
make it tenonto's beefy cousin
and the more things we add the more confusing the game will be
that shanks people
Plus every animals costs $7k+
the game is supposed to be confusing as hell
Yeah but if we have a server have a max population of 80 and we have like 50 species and everybody playes different things finding a herd would be imposible
just a example
ai herds
still not the same
I mean, community servers will probably have bigger max caps
and it's not like everyone is gonna pick a different dinosaur
there will always be more popualr dinos then others
lol people have a hard now finding a group. it will be the same in the recode time too
@narrow whale No one's telling you to pay money for animals that are already in the game you bought. Play on a different server
additionally non survivals are being added to the game as regular playables
and don't upvote your own suggestion
that suggestion made me want to leave the isle
not every non survival dino @barren zephyr
Most Survival dinos
what ones arent?
Well Pue is getting replaced
alberto and bary for one
So Pue kinda isn't
yea and brachi might be ai only too :/
No alberto's getting remade
alberto and bary are confirmed playable
ok
so when did they confirm alberto was playable?
alberto is just a sub rex
Alberto is just a sub rex right now
it wont be after rework. and subrex wont exist with forced progression
Albertosaurus literally has no animations in the current game lol
lol same eating animations. same size. and it running speed is the same. it even has hte baby arms
and the little crest
Well that's what alberto had irl
is it getting a new model or no?
It's speed is the same cause the animation is the same
god pue isn't even fun
unlikely please stop spamming the channel with unrelated things.
really? unlikely?
@barren zephyr
that was not needed
@barren zephyr do you want to irritate someone? you are achieving your goal. im getting mad.
then why did you do it?
lol.
One more person keeps the argument going, and I'm tagging a mod.
im not trying to force you to like it
just not vote something that has nothing to do with it lol
nobody is forcing you to argue or stay here
You're having a flame war in here, which is against the rules.
If you want to argue to it in DM's
<@&401466542140817419> anyone to sort things out? thanks in advance
@zenith onyx it seems you are excited to play the new isle, but please stop posting suggestions that are already been confirmed to be implemented
lol most of them idk about. i still finding out about stuff. so if you wanna tell me about everythign that's being added or changed or inplemented in any way do now please? i listening.
Let's try and be civil in here please.
i am
thanks Harriet
indeed, but many ppl, like you und kai and many many manyÂł other dont educate themself about whats coming or was debunked in advance...
lol. i can't spend all my time trying to find out about a game. i have ohter things to do too
you dont have to spend many time to use the searchbar
and if there is a web site that you can send me to that shows me all the dinos and mechanics that are being added do so please so i don't post htings that are confirmed
if htat's what you want
I think it's best to move on from this. You can take your discussions to DMs.
im just asking a simple question or request
dgmw some suggestions are good, but they've been mentioned before
@zenith onyx take a look at the last Q&A
that should cover the most gaps
also the [Ravenous] playlist on yt about phase
nice
most relevant informations can be found in 'Pins' on various channel, dont forget to check them too
okay. thanks for hte links
@true thistle you have to give a reason why you want it in the. can't just post a dino
@true thistle
plus its literally just anky
At $7k an animal you probably shouldnt just be tossing animals into suggestions
@neat beacon I like the idea, but I think it would be better if leeches were only in certain pools of water (like the swamp) and if aquatic animals, like deino were immune or resistant to them
If it doesn’t affect aquatic animals I’m fine with it
Ye
As long as deino n such is immune idm
Deino for example kinda should remain still when waiting for prey
Imo the only threat to deino in the water outside of players should be like them big fish
Tiger Goliathfish they are called iirc
that better?
yes
Yea I’m fine with that
I think other aquatic animals should be immune too. Like beipi and austro. Cause then they would always hunt in areas without leeches and you'd never see them in areas with leeches
leeches are horrible nasty fucks, but i like the suggestion, would be interesting in the game
Deino needs to have some threats in the water, yes
Ye i said excluding aquatic animals
Maybe they reduce max stam when on your dino maybe?
Cool 👍
Or slightly bleed
I like the idea they lower max stam, deal like a flat bleed damage and maybe even prevent healing (if there is a large portion of them on you)
Aight
Yea I like that, blue
Affects are worse if more are on them?
I think you should get some bleed when you remove them too, since they have an anticoagulant
They would be interesting to have
But since there’s an incentive to go into the water such as for herbis and special plants, it would be a risk other than deino
Now how large would these leeches be
Well seeable large
Like would they be normal sized, oversized, etc
And something to make them see there
Oversized so that you can see them I would assume
I mean you would see them at regular size prolly
Yea
Or size could be determined by how long they have been on you
It might be hard if you're a large animal like deino
and maybe some like spots
incase your animal is mostly dark
So like yellow spots on some leeches
The longer they're on you, the bigger they get and they get a slightly reddish hue
^
that good?
Love it
Should it also cause small pieces of damage when large amounts are on you?
or will bleeding be able to kill you when sitting?
nah leeches shouldnt kill people imo
ye
im not gonna download any files here, have a link to it?
@zenith onyx I think you mean Styracosaurus?
let me see. one moment. and yes?
You put Styraceratops
here lol
i did?
let me fo fix htat
here's the right link
@true thistle this channel is for discussions
Lets use 7k on adding literally the exact same thing but edgier
@covert birch Looks at Hypsi![]()
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poor oro being replaced by a fashionista rat
@barren zephyr There will only be Utah and Tenonto in EVRIMA
@barren zephyr cant just say add X
Gotta give reasoning too
(and even then microraptor is prolly to small to be added as anything more than ai)
better gliders exist like changyuraptor or zhenyuanlong
Also this
But you said "In evrima"
i thought that would be the final product
And might as well tell you to look at rule 6 while youre at it
No thats absolutely not the final product
Theres way more to be added after EVRIMA like humans and shit
Evrima is the first update of a long process which will eventually lead to finishing the game
@sleek ingot pachyrhino was confirmed by kissen to be coming in the future a few months ago
Y E S
plateo would be an interesting choice for a semi aquatic herbi imo
why is that?
I could see it eating aquatic plants but swimming and diving not so much
oh yea that no
If they wanna add an aquatic herbivore that swims I'd say go for Koreaceratops
Kora is practically just taco or proto going the aquatic route
Supposedly Lurdusaurus is suspected to also be aquatic but I have no idea how accurate that is
ehhh, never was a fan of lurdu
Desmato can work as an swimming aquatic herbi
And ourano and plateo imo are better fits at least in appearence then lurdu
An aquatic herbi doesnt necrssarily need to swim, it could run along the lakebed sort of like adult hippos
Well I've seen unofficial art for Minmi being similar to a snapping turtle
Yea but we dont really know what minmi will be other than
"not aquatic but close"
Which as horribly inaccurate as that would be, the concept is cool
Ah
And then we have Beipaosaurus
Probably didn't spell that right
Basically a death duck
I mean, the aquatic minmi isnt as innacurate as beipi
Cuz there is that still debated theory of a minmi relative liang iirc being aquatic
Hmmm
You know, the dinosaur I want most in the game will never come, for obvious reasons though
Unless they still go the route with it as an alternate skin, I doubt Carcharodontosaurus will make it to the game
dondi mentioned it as a giga skin in the qna stream
How long ago
QNA was like in jan
Would it still use a seperate model and have different sound designs or
It makes sense why it wouldn't be it's own thing I guess, it's basically a slightly larger Giga
But I'll take it regardless
I prefer it to Giganoto anyways
Hehe
Compy would beat micro's ass
Yeah Microraptor would be cool but not very viable
Unless small lizards and rodents became a thing, it would have little options for food
micro would at most be ambience
ZHenyuanlong, chanyuraptor, balaur
All work as better gliders
Zhenyuanlong us on my most wanted list
Favorite dinosaur anyone?
Zhenyuanlong > all other gliders
In general not just the game
If we get arboreals and gliders he's a good candidate
@neat beacon It could be a good suggestion, but I think it could also get pretty annoying if you keep getting leeches, couldn't it?
If you stay in waters for long amounts of time
Not sure i have a fave, orinthomimids are up there for me
gimme
if you sit in water leeches will get on ya
Mmm yis
Compus could help pluck leeches
Some dinos like austro could pick their own leeches
It kinda sucks compy won't be doing damage
my mans asked for a spanish channel
I mean yeah it would do nothing really
But like, it would feel off with a biting animation
Are there different language channels, then?
If parasites become a thing, laying near compy ai as a large dino could cause them to pluck you clean
as long as it isn't rng
Only if its punishment for doing things wrong ir maybe from cerato bite for infection
Is the necrotic bite from Ceratosaurus a confirmed thing?
Random diseases are annoying, esoecially if they cost youvyour dinos life
I hope so, would be a nice way to reward cera for eating rot
Cerato: It tastes so gross, but so good!
Cerato eating rancid meat like I eat McDonalds “why am i eating this.. why can't i stop”
So does this mean Compy won't be able to eat putrid meat?
It only will scavenge fresh meat?
Special perks being rewarded from sticking to certain diets in general would be good for some animals
I thought compy was going to be an all-goes scavenger who eats from any source, maybe not tho
rugops septic bite wen
rugops more like when
I'd love to have Rugops
But everyone seems against it
It would fair as a better scavenger if you ask me
Not powerful enough to fight off other predators larger than it, just always there to annoy you when you're eating lmao
it's because it's smaller cera
Rugops would fill cera's similar niche at a smaller tier i'd think
And I don't see why everyone thing Ceratosaurus should be the only large scavenger based dinosaur, there can. e room for Rugops anyways
Like its 14fr cera is 20 something
Be*
Well Rugops might be larger than the current estimates. Iirc there are larger estimates, but we can't assume that anyhow.
Rugops looks like an opportunistic scavenger+small prey hunter just like cera, no reason cera should be the only one
Plus Carnotaurus is the only Abelisaur currently. It would be nice to have a smaller one.
It doesn't have to eat rotting flesh like Ceratosaurus, it would just be a scavenger in general, but prefers meat that's more fresh
My only issue with rugops is mono
Who we have no idea what they plan to do with yet, may go down a similar route as the rugops suggestion but smaller
It would be interesting to be a Giga just eating the para you killed and just slowly you see a few Rugops randomly appear, watching you and waiting for you to leave so they can consume the remains
Rugops could be small prey hunter first, scavenger second. Cera could be scavenger first, small prey hunter second, each prioritizing a different half more
Imo would be the opposite
True
I'm sure regardless in reality Rugops couldn't rely on scavenging all the time
There had to be some sort of game it hunted
still would rather wait until we have info on what mono would do
Cuz mono seems like a dino they would go the whole scavenger route with
Still, Rugops would be nice to have for a scavenger option
Venom immunity mono would be cool
Mongoose mono is interesting
But dondi mentioned in a stream that no dino will have more venom resistance than another
outside of elder perks
They had a model for it, it would be nice to see it not go to waste
Shame
Tbh I'm not the biggest fan of the elder concept
Venom resistance/immunity would have been a good perk for a couple dinos
I like the growing old and dying idea and carrying on small perks
But the whole idea of it becoming extremely powerful at first I'm not a fan of
Im fine with it as long as it remains optional
And i get that technically it is optional since ya gotta do tasks but if those tasks are also what you need to do to survive then its not completely optional
Sure it could be stronger than one of it's kind, but like, if an Elder Rex were to be powerful enough to kill two normal rexes with ease, that just seems like too much
Iirc I heard the elder option is optional and will be a server selected thing
But don't quote me on it
I doubt elder rex will go up to that powerful
All we know is "jedi among stormtroopers"
Prolly can beat one regular rex but 2 would have a hard time
If it is stronger than a single rex by a slight margin that seems find
Fine*
But they shouldn't basically become mini hypos or something
Plus remember its not like your stronger for an extended period of time
Yeah you grow weaker
its like a spike then you slowly get weaker and weaker until your under your base adult
And then you take a dirt nap
shmeme
Sleeping they gotta concept for
Or at least kissen does
but that stuff is wayyyy farther into the future
Whether or not it would be required idc, I just want the option to be an Albertosaurus by a riverbed or something lol.
Taking a s n o o z e
What about Corythosaurus
Replaced by para
I get there would be little things to make it unique but they still had a model with a skin correct
would be a skin if anything
RIP Cory boi
I remember way in the past someone said that they were gonna replace the Alberto with Daspleto
What a horrible idea lol
Doubt it was ever really a thing but
Yeah that one video
He borderline had an orgasm saying Albertosaurus
I doubt Dondi will ever give up on it
Albertosaurus might just be my favorite dinosaur tbh
@opaque blaze I'm not sure if it's the same with dinosaurs
A slender Tyrannosaur built for speed opposed to raw power and bulk is a lot more appealing to me
rip that guy
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@barren zephyr Please do not tag Admins if you don't have a problem. Also, we are not going to add channels for different languages, as we would need to have admins talking that language to moderate them.
Ah
@covert birch 👍
hope that makes it somewhere in time in the game
Filipe did a
last night when i gave just a tldr of the locust thin
Oh ok thanks
yea i think i saw that
Locust would be interesting for carnis if they know the path they can ambush herbis on their way to a different zone
@neat beacon why not make it so you have to go into salt water to get leeches off c;
Cause ya can also get it off with mudbaths
And why walk all the way to the ocean when you can just mudbath
yeah then it becomes less a risk to get leeches off it's a jungle
it's got plenty of mud
also wallowing is gonna play a huge role in recovering bleed
so in the end you just shrug leeches even being an actual threeat
It's just supposed to stop growin in water mostly
what if another even would be a ship crash
this would mean that a ship crashes at the bay and supplies fall out
or a bloom event where everything grows
Mito i didnt mention stuff like that b/c they arent really controlled/caused by ai
oh ok
Still love your idea
I wish we had even more events like the ones you mentioned
will have a picture for the stun grenade in a moment
I wonder what your history looks like now
@full salmon we'll be able to tear chunks off of corpses, but tug of wars wont happen since itll be a programming/server nightmare, sadly
I put an X on the reaction. Cause as Superlunary said, it can't happen
Plus, it would need to be a real small corpse for you to play tug of war with it. Utahraptor corpse at the largest
Or like 2 rexes going at a Tenoto body etc
That’s a bummer, it would be kinda cool if they were able to make it
@worn token Any sort of turtle-shaped animal is hard to animate. That's one of the reason Bryan dislikes Ankylosaurus. If it's hard to animate, it probably isn't gonna be added. Especially since it's a mammal
prehistoric wildlife 
Oh yeah, prehistoric wildlife's size charts are very inaccurate
@worn token A: hard to animate
B: PW = inaccurate size chart
C: Most importantly, Dondi said no mammals
devs said no mammals
Plus that is just anky but weaker
I love doed, but it doesnt fit.
oof I tried
its a nice and detailed suggestion
doed bad animal xd
its a great suggestion, better than any recent yutyrannus ones

doed good animal, just one the scientists in the lore wont have cloned.
I feel we could so with a good old feathered ai
what?
what?
Why ai?
More dinos will be getting feathered options in hte future
bro if I see one more yut suggestion, I'm gonna blow
Regarding my AI world event suggestion
Doesnt anyone know of more mass migrating animals who can play a heavy roll in effecting how other animals or the enviorment is?
would like to add more but cant think of any examples
wildebeest
megalapteryx?
Wildebeest is practically the mass herd migrations
wildebeest have a massive impact on the african plains
Megalapteryx would prolly function as a worse utah or carno ingame
well its a herbivore
Oh really?
the great sardine run also works
oh it;s the moa
Well ik the moa is a just emu
But thought it would be omni at least instead of just herbi
isnt it extinct tho?
ye
feathered galli y e s
galli could be made omni
isn't omni galli disproved?
game

better omni galli
I feel like it would eat smol bugs (galli)
Even if its disproved moa would literally just be galli, but diff appearence
600kg, fast, using slashes and grapples
na falcarius is better
Nothronychus is a better option imo
Theres this cool fred art that made it like an anteater
Falcarius is basically beip. almost same weight
fred is all of a sudden "the" talk
well hes a dev so idk whats the issue with fred being "the talk"
honestly though all our ai has been non feathered
and we have more feathered stuff coming
so it would be cool
omnis need a whole bunch of things imo. so far it's only ovi and beip
ORo, hypsi, ai exist
and even then beip is strongly leading herbi
Nothronychus as an omni who is more of an insectivore would be great
gigantoraptor, tupan, and cheirus would be three good omnis.
honestly though all our ai has been non feathered
@worn token orodromeus
I still dont agree with giganto or cheri until we know exactly how diet system works for omni
eh, I don't really see the need for a giant omni
I mean cheirus adds something that's not just a pure meat eater to live around water
water is just a giant canri fest atm.
Yes, but again that depends on how its diet works
yep spino and deino will live off beips.
And the large size is my main concern depending on hopw the system works
spino and deino need big challenging prey. cheirus suits that.
I mean, i can see cheri preferring to run from spino
spino can go wherever it wants, so at some point it's gonna find something
segnosaurus as omni?
Cuz spino is literally cherry, but bigger and a carni
I think omnis should essentially get less choice of plants to eat, and only be able to eat meat they can swallow in one go (no ripping off chunks)
omni spino
Ehh comrade ide rather omnis have a large variety when it comes to diet systems
Which is why im more of a wait n see
that is a large variety.
mole theri
Yeah, we'll have to see how diet works out
fruit, berries, eggs, water plants, any meat they can swallow
No i mena like
Beipi eats one manner
Gignato eats another manner
Troodon eats in another manner
Etc
I don't want omnis to just be carni/herbi +
Like every omni has somewhat different dietary systems
risk is omnis just being better.
yeah
possible troodon omni
It aint confirmed but i like the concept
Troodon being omni leaning heavily to carni
but being able to supplement with plants every so often maybe with that being how it gets its venom
I mean herbis eat meat on occasion and carnis will eat fruit if they can
I think cheiruses diet could work if it's limited to water plants, fish, and any small animals it can swallow in one go.
so if it kills a para, it can't eat it
Like that i can see it function
yeah that makes sense
But im still waiting to see how the dietary sustem for omnis works before i make a decision
Crocs are known to randomly eat fruit irl. Maybe Deino can be very very slightly omni 
Also heres the hceri size chart
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401464048610312195/705987408834855004/deinocheirus.png
oh yeah cherry for sure runs from spino
Yea spino can literally do what cheri does, but bigger
Cheri i can see slapping away other stuff tho
And using its hands to beat deino
In a similar sense to spino
cheirus would be faster on land, no bite attack, eats plants too, and can't live in the water
no diving under
nah itsa wader boi
i swear i keep seeing devs names flash in this chat
yeah
question:
is there any kind of tropical bird that migrates in mass, enough to cover a quetz or somethin high in the air
hmmm
mammals are a no-go aside from humans and possibly rats. doedicurus is pretty similar to an ankylosaur anyway.
we covered the doed thin already
I know there are birds that migrate en masse to africa and europe each year
there is also a type falcon that flies an incredibly long distance migrating
there was a species of bird that lived in flocks of millions in the usa. sadly the passenger pigeon is extinct now.
pelicans dont migrate in very large flocks though.
bitch
yea preferably something in large flocks
I saw a giant flock of pelicans a few months ago
I wanna add to my "ai world events" suggestion some kinda mass migrating bird that flyers can use as cover in the air
I mean, geese work
Also what is it called when crabs go onto beaches in mass
apparently tundra swans migrate from the artic down the east coast in flocks of around 100.
another birb is starlings
Would the horseshoe crab thing be too similar to the sabretooth salmon one?
seems that its just called a migration
hmmm
Horseshoe crabs would probably be better for terrestrial preds than sabertooth salmon migration
like herra, troodon, velo, etc would get a kick out of it
Ehh not really
Doubt they can break open the shells
Probing for shellfish on beaches could be interesting
probing for horseshoe crab eggs is inefficient unless your tiny.
which is why rhamp should be add-

id call compy the largest possible thing that could work well.
But yea egg probing aint really good, the crab meat can function tho with the whole flippin over bit
seems legit
still you have to be tiny to get much benefit from eating parts of the crab. not much meat.
which is why small preds go for it
@prisma wharf
1: packs should do team damage so people actually have to coordinate more to not friendly fire
2: Cnat just say X animal without adding detail
3: prehistoric wildlife sizecharts are bad
4: that wouldnt be an apex
5: nor is it actually a raptor, but a megaraptora (which is a complete diff family)
another completely useless suggestion
yep
how many is that this week
the devs already confirmed packmates will never deal no damage to each other.
so what were the thoughts on my idea for non lethal throwable weapons?
@prisma wharf Somewhat agree on the team-damage. When you'd attack you'd not go and bite a friendly irl. So maybe less damage
Ummm
reduced damage is confirmed for in fighting
But not like pack hunting
Also, throwable stun grenades sound like an easy to abuse thing
yeah, it's like infinite mccree flashbangs
if you bite your packmate you still bite them. just dont aim for them and you wont hit them.
Assuming the hitboxes are less wacky
Throws stun grenade -> stuns X animal -> rex bud your mixpacking with has a nom
thoughts on my mini cerato-carno suggestion
Rugops = bad until we know what mono does
well no. a flashbang would deafen and blind anything in the immediate explosion radius.
I feel like smokes would work better for non-lethals
flashbang works
But a full on stun grenade no
i think the septic bite thing could work for mono if it doesn't have anything yet
Even though mongoose mono isn't likely, I still would love it
mono has a planned mechanic but we dont know what it is as of yet
Mono has nothing going for it that we know of
Kissen said it was the forgotten boi iirc
wait nvm it was proto
mono proto homalo minmi and kentro to an extent are unknown
kentro mono and proto were the forgotten ones
ye
I like the idea of septic bite
we know minmi will have something to do with water. weather its food or movement based we dont know. and kentro we can assume has some form of damage reduction/counter damage with its spikes.
rugops would be cool but I can see that ability being used for mono
Septic bite as a mechanic is cool
But imo dino suggestions in general should be held off till we know what plans for the 14 new dinos are
agreed
rugops is still going to be a long way off if its added. personally i like it a lot.
the idea with the septic bite idea, was an ability with slight debuffs that would build over time and if not cared for would fuck over the user
i do like majungasauridae more than carnotaurine though.
Plus if we do need any specific carnis imo it should be like presto or a megaraptor
Since we lack stuff in their familys
wasn't there some fan made dossier of rugops posted here like waaaaay back
it said like the same stuff bork was saying
Yea there was
it was really nice
I'm all for a megarataroid
I think I have it saved on my pc
idk. rugops was originally going to be majung back in 2017.
wish I knew who made it
i just want all the origin tsl bois to do something similar to the concepts
they scrapped majung started to model rugops and then left it after i had its model.
I DID NOT MAKE THIS! If anyone knows who made this I will credit them immediatley
Edit: Made by Flaffy
@prisma wharf what?
found it
da fack
it was made by a user named Flaffy
Yea was thinking it was flaffy
oh flaffy
Nearly 3 meters tall
and the minmi one iirc
Yes
oh that's what lurdu is
oh that's what lurdu is
@honest sparrow the overweight midget iguanodon
I'd say there's an extra 0.5 metres missing in scale
Svend, idk how large sin was
My issue is sinraptor (at least the niche you want) is way too specifc
And the animal itself would be a clone to allo
Since sinraptor (a megaraptor iirc) would focus on arm combat such as grabs which allo is literally gonna be doing via grapple
he thinks its a dromeosaur
Yeah
He doesnt
he edited it
same thing with Tarvo and Yuty, as much as I love them they are too similar niche wise to Allo
but it said "apex raptor"
or atleast thats what im getting from "apex raptor"
same thing with Tarvo and Yuty, as much as I love them they are too similar niche wise to Allo
^^^
I meant the apex raptor in name rather than species, functionally rushing down rather than the methodical pack hunting of an allo
I mean, with allos insane speed buff they seem to be making it a rush down hunter
yeah, much more ambush based then endurance it seems
^
I meant the apex raptor in name rather than species, functionally rushing down rather than the methodical pack hunting of an allo
@prisma wharf pack hunting isn't a niche, every dino needs to be able to operate solo efficiently or its not viable
Imo the best megaraptorid that can work is siats
But that completely depends on how acro is made
I'm not going off prediction, right now there's realistically no predator to dilos, my intent is that dilos really need to have some sort of predator
Say that to cerato
And future maggy
I mean Australo can work, but not everyone is fond of the idea
And future maggy
@prisma wharf it doesn't need a group to be viable
Cerato: Gonna be reworked like all survival animals
Magy: Can survive without a group to be viable
somehow
Magy can outrun gigas
It can't run from gigas, yet they'd be insta boddied
@prisma wharf current giga, is gone
allo is an issue
new giga is not the speed demon it is now
It sounds ridiculous
@prisma wharf so do you right now
Not in magys case
sauropods can be quick, like it or not
Most sauropods have issues with having 3 feet on the ground all the time or else it breaks it's ankles
Magy, at least the isles rendition of it
Would be able to outrun apexs
(and kissen said outrun allos but i doubt that)
Most sauropods have issues with having 3 feet on the ground all the time or else it breaks it's ankles
@prisma wharf it's because those are huge
i love magy but I for the life of me can't see it outrunning an allo
Most sauropods have issues with having 3 feet on the ground all the time or else it breaks it's ankles
@prisma wharf most sauropod have to hold multiple tons of weight on three legs
Remember magy is cerato sized
Loses movement issues weight wise
Anatomy is an issue
But devs have shown plenty of times to overlook anatomy to make an animal viable
oh great
Dilo has no natural predators
I actually have a good suggestion for Magy which I want to write down after my uni finals are iver
tbf the pesky anky video brought up multiple valid points
Dilo has no natural predators
@prisma wharf rex has no natural predators, neither does giga, acro, or spino... oh wait
and no one here is saying that Magy should not be in the game
Dilo has no natural predators
@prisma wharf yes it does
"Dilo has no natural predators"
even tho allos, ceratos even, utahs, etc can actually kill it if done properly
Same with apexs
Plus dilo will be functioning completely differently within recode
maiasaura is dilos natural predator
Maia exists too
Dilo and utahs have no issue killing rexes
I ain't even a rex main, that just sucks
Dilo and utahs have no issue killing rexes
@prisma wharf oh look a no alt turn server
They will in recode svend
that im sure will be different in the recode
Very different
^
Locational damage, forced alt turn, regular bites not being main source of damage, etc stop that
oh and dont forget trample damage and fixed hitboxes
Alt turn makes apexes functionally untouchable to other non-apexes, that's why it's being reworked
Ehh kinda
Alt turn makes apexes functionally untouchable to other non-apexes, that's why it's being reworked
@prisma wharf to turn faster and be forced
rex alt turn is fine yeah
and alt turn isnt used in combat as much as people seem to believe
ye I think giga's ridiculous alt turn is a problem with giga and not a problem with alt turn in general
just another reason why giga's really OP
Which is why giga is gettin a rework
giga is a problem in general
So I speak for non alt-turn servers as they give smaller dinos a lot of possibilities to punch up
but they dont need it?
that's dumb though, larger dinos should have the advantage
A utah shouldnt be able to kill a rex solo
smaller dinos can run away
Or in groups easily
I'm not saying it's an issue, but the combat should scale to sizing better than a single dilo
no alt servers are cursed
Oh well thats changing completely yes svend
Hell dondi said something along the lines of
"You may have a utah megapack, but when that rex comes along and you fight it you may kill it, but most of you will have died"
btw do you know how we will activate the new "quick turns"?
just click a and d
ah
playing on no alt turn and saying dilos are op is hypocrisy at its finest
But I don't want to destroy everything as a giga, like why even play strategy if I can press alt?
Idk why no alt vs alt needs to be discussed anyways
Alt turn is being forced on all servers so
Cuz giga isnt op just b/c alt
The trot is what does it
Literally outrots a majority of the roster
ye giga is OP in so many ways, if it was only its fast alt turn it wouldn't be that bad
I'm just leaving the fact the alt turn would've needed better implementation, which it is getting
Yes, that is true
Current alt turn is quite 
Like look at sucho giga n allo
Fuckin madmen
poor trike
I feel like to balance trotting, there needs to be a definition for what hunting is
Ehhh cant really define such a varied thing
There should be a kill distance (in which the better dino gets the kill in sprint) if one dino completely outclasses the other, with that distance getting smaller the more the difference in dino is
And by that definition giga is op
Because everything can run out of stamina eventually
Before the gigas catch up
I mean, it depends on what giga is exactly chasing
thats not a good idea
assuming gigas will always see the prey, the gigas can catch up
Which is the Op part
Yes, by that logic it is
Issue is that isnt always the case
luckily giga is getting a rework
Cuz certain stuff can just run far distant enough
I'd say that the principle enough is giving giga an unfair advantage
Giga is getting a complete rework tho
We dont know anything about it other than model changes
and it won't walk like it has a stick shoved up its ass
Yea giga prolly gonna get a heavy trot nerf with the rework
i remember a while back before the recode started dondi said something about everything getting slowed down a bit
especially giga
then ^ happened
Finally
I assume giga is going to still be able to escape a rex in that situation, cus the hit and run playstyle of giga definitely needs to be preserved in that sense
Who choose shitty pack mates
So every Dino is getting faster nice
It's more you can't protect high bleed packmates
And honestly I only have issues with dilos with that matter
If a pack mate hits you or vice versa, tough luck you shoulda coordinated better
In a hypothetical situation where in a team fight against dilos, yes it is their fault, but with the poor visibility and high bleed situations, it becomes impossible to save packmates, which is against the pack mentality as you just give up on your packmate and leave them for dead
Such specific situations dont justify removing friendly fire, sometimes shit happens and a pack mate gets bit that's life
Dilos dont take long to grow anyway, neither do utahs or other pack swarmers
I agree with that idea now, but dilos really shouldn't be that oppressive
Means you can't help a team-mate against an ass-rider, either
Good thing you can just alt turn to deal with an assrider
Especially with liberal pack sizing
Ass riders wont be as much of an issue with locational, trample and the inability to toggle alt turn in servers
And again, dilos wont be as oppressive anymore due to completely new mechanics coming
The main idea with ass riding is that it is a skill, the issue with it is right now there isn't a counter without alt-turn
There wont be changes made to this current version of the game to fix assriding
Lemme just have a stroke real quick
lol
Smols wont be soloin bigs anymore b/c
A: alt turn being forced makes that hard
B: locational damage makes biting the ass do almost no damage
C: collison wont allow the smalls to be literally inside the rex anymore
D: Trample will allow the smalls to die if stepped on
E: Regular bites wont be doing as much damage anymore compared to stam attacks n such
If i recall correctly, alt turn won't be able to be turned off anymore, i think i remember dondi saying that at some point
So it will be 👌
it cant be turned off whatsoever, part of basic movement systems now
Excellent
What?
I feel as if rexes just cannot be touched
punch upper weights?
Packs will still be able to take on large dinos
Rexs arent meant to be touches outside of apexs, psuedo apex and midtier packs, and massive tiny packs
Nothing outside of other apexs will be able to 1v1 apexs
Troodons for example will be able to take on mid tiers i heard
Yeah in packs
what?
Like packs of rexes
Yeah
Well remember that apexs wont be easy to grow anymore
So a a group of apexs will be rare
Ai wont spawn on hungry preds anymore, they will have to actively search
Combined with food to need to support the apexs
Theyll prolly split
And even then other apexs packs, massive midtier packs, and god sized packs of small tiers
Can prolly take em, but at extremely heavy risk
But remember the game is going in the route of an actual survival game instead of a deathmatch
so the matchups are inherently going to be "fair"
Also afking will make you take longer to grow so that will prune some of the apex base
Uh
you are nikson
Literally look at your past messages
Shows it all
(2nd time someone tries to hide their identity via nickname and fail miserably b/c message search exists)
What do you guys think is an acceptable apex pack size?
Because all the apexes are really oppressive
2-3
pack limits wont exist rule wise anymore (on officials at least)
b/c food will be what determines pack size
Official rules bein replaced by mechanics = 👌
Hopefully seeing 3 rexes/gigas will be a big rarity lol
I think that can only come when the apexes are less effective against mid-tiers
and his account it seems
I'm honestly ok with the idea that herds can be absolutely huge so that apexes and mid-tiers are less of a strain on the ecosystem, without them the carnis will just starve to death
Goat / Nikson, are you starting things up again?
Issue will probably be lag
Ah.
Considering I've had our DM messages open since you've been Nikson, I feel this is a silly argument that should move on to something more on-topic
MAssive herds bulldozing through a forest is all i hope for
Like how everything will likely revolve around a herd
How sizing depicts what dino you pick off
How gores left from herds encourage scavenging
Because scavenging is really underutilised in terms of it's predicted scale in real-life
It's limited to juvis and maybe raptors
Scavenging is completely changed with how corspes work now
Rotten corpses, ripping of chunks of corpses, etc allow for many things to scavenge more efficiently
If given the incentive to attack dinos of a similar weight class instead of just a bunch of smaller ones, it'll be an extremely fun update for herbies and carnos alike

Am I gonna need to slap you and your alt with Read Only?
yes work on something related to isle suggestions
Considering I've had our DM messages open since you've been Nikson, I feel this is a silly argument that should move on to something more on-topic
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Hes been told to talk about something on topic
Still is talking about this whole name thing
the alt accounts 
alt accounts?
I mean if someone said they were gonna mute you from talking in the server by a mod it might make you want to at least ask why
unless this has been going on for a while
i mean someone said that's an alt account, probably isn't
Good 5 mins pyro
but it's funny since ppl have actually done alt accounts before
Anyway, moving on from that whole dumb argument
oh, bhaltair now that u are here, maybe u can help me
what yall think of this as another "AI world event"?
food
what like washed up sea animals?
Nah crabs in mass goin on the beach for "spawning season"
But just as a rare even that provides food and promotes in-fighting
I know this is offtopic but Imma drop this in case u can give me a hand bhaltair, i've had a perma slow mode for days, i left the server a sometime ago, when it was announced that CCs would get evrima access, i left after the big slow mode was taken down, I just can't speak in general chat anymore. 
Also I like the idea of the AI events, if done properly ofc
I don't see why not, Saurian has the beached Mosa you can find and eat so having things like that happen would be cool
Cant believe i forgot bout beached whales n shit as an event type thing
rip the liopluerodon
Like, big AI herds migrating, or fish migrating upstream, to help with piscivores
I personally wouldn't mind something like Bary or Sucho having the ability to dig up animals from the mud, like big crabs or lungfish
or Austro, I guess
I know this is offtopic but Imma drop this in case u can give me a hand bhaltair, i've had a perma slow mode for days, i left the server a sometime ago, when it was announced that CCs would get evrima access, i left after the big slow mode was taken down, I just can't speak in general chat anymore.
ok it works now, idk if someone did smth but it works, nvm all this
I'd say in drought, it should take note of how many fish die and have them be excavatable in the river bed

That would be cool, same with frogs n such
lungfish would be really neat
A massive rhizodus who can do stuff like a lungfish would be cool
I did have an idea for the lungfish when I was trying to come up with a desert map idea a long ways back, but I kinda lost the doc I had set up for it
desert lungfish?
Anyone thought of how sarcos migrate?
Well, the African Lungfish makes a cocoon made of mucus, then hibernates until the rain comes
Well there are "water highways" which connect a shitton of waterways on the map
https://youtu.be/TukosIxGtBc kinda like this
Witness two age-old enemies in action as the unusual-looking shoebill stork stalks lungfish in an African lake.
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Deino wont be migrating on land much tho, since they made it somewhat of an amphibian and it "drys up" on land
ye Chad rhizodus
prolly one of the best options of fish that can actually function as a playable
Reminds me of a smaller Leedsichthys
Arent most fish just smaller leeds
tis true
well leed itself as an animal will never happen
leedsicthys is never coming
since dondi said no filter feeders
the one time I'm slower
yea just holding w to get food aint much of a gameplaty
it is for afk growers
But imo filter feeders can be a good equivalent to aquatic "herbis"
Basically shrimp clouds can function just like bushes do now
But less common and larger ofc
There does need to be herbie equivalents or else the water meta will just be too volatile
The most deadly predator will always win in that case
I mean tbf a lot of ocean life is just eating smaller shit that eats smaller shit
There does need to be an established food chain
Unless there's like shoals of ai fish, smaller predators just cannot survive
ye "big fish eat small fish, big fish gets eaten by bigger fish"
ai shoals are confirmed btw
Well that's settled
It's difficult to get flavour in an aquatic meta but I see potential
Especially if there's interaction between the river and oceans
id like those ceratopsians to be added too
but @true thistle maybe try to explain your reasoning or trying to explain what niche each one will fit in?
or what their special ability might be
@junior crow he has just been spamming this useless garbage all day
I mean he has also posted art
in offtopic art
and he's been talkin' in general iirc
@true thistle i get that you like ceratopsids but heres the thing
When suggesting stuff dont just post 3 images and leave literally 0 context
Plus proto is already confirmed
so is pachyrhino
we @ ed him like 4 times tellin him he needs more than just the dinosaur he wants added
Pachy is a distnat maybe which is closer to yes than no
“Make rex bite 35kN” because fuck game balance right
Do people even think before making those suggestions
Its like those people wanting giga to run 50km/h lmao
and char char/yut
I really dont get the carchar appeal especially it's literally just giga from a different region? Very few differences between them
people like char char
Its 58k newtons
