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valid zephyr Dec 21, 2019, 8:23 PM

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oviraptor should not be a pure egg eater imo.

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eggs should be a rare thing that arn't an important part of the diet but give a lot of food on the rare occaision they're found.

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ovi should get most of its food from fruits/berries and small animals.

rotund panther Dec 21, 2019, 8:25 PM

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Agreed

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@barren zephyr maybe but the only change would be few animations, an an defence position, an heavy attack and transformation to normal standing. They fixed the alt-turn and even improved it. Potential is there 🙏

odd sedge Dec 21, 2019, 8:37 PM

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The ovi would be one of the omnivores

rotund panther Dec 21, 2019, 8:38 PM

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And I am for it

odd sedge Dec 21, 2019, 8:41 PM

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It would eat gores, maybe some fruits, the bushes have little berries, if you look closely, hatchlings, small dinosaurs and eggs

rotund panther Dec 21, 2019, 8:43 PM

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Mmhmm, the devs just need to get the recode and base game done. Than hopefully omnivores

indigo sun Dec 21, 2019, 8:43 PM

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notmuch of a hopefully. its just "Then omnivores"

rotund panther Dec 21, 2019, 8:45 PM

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Just setting my expectations low so I can get impressed

odd sedge Dec 21, 2019, 9:03 PM

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Good idea. But I'd really like to have these feather bois in the game

tawny leaf Dec 21, 2019, 9:03 PM

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will we still have our dinos after recode???

indigo sun Dec 21, 2019, 9:04 PM

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no

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its like redownloading the game and everything's changing

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you'll have to regrow

rotund panther Dec 21, 2019, 9:09 PM

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Unfortunately but worth it

oblique sluice Dec 21, 2019, 10:10 PM

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@south beacon Thats not a suggestion

south beacon Dec 21, 2019, 10:20 PM

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I didn’t know where else do ask don’t be rude.

indigo sun Dec 21, 2019, 10:21 PM

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you can ask in #401464048610312195 and he wasn't being rude

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he was just telling you that's not where it goes

south beacon Dec 21, 2019, 10:21 PM

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Well I didn’t know where to put it but thanks.

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There it’s deleted.

patent spade Dec 21, 2019, 10:32 PM

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if they consider that msg rude then i hate to see their reaction to ppl being actually rude lmao. idk about spawning as a hatchling all the time considering you could just be nested in if you really want to be a hatchling

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just cause something is realistic doesnt mean it will work out well ingame

indigo sun Dec 21, 2019, 10:33 PM

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takes long enough to grow, let me start as a juvie

patent spade Dec 21, 2019, 10:33 PM

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actually maybe have apexs be hatchlings muahaha

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let them suffer

indigo sun Dec 21, 2019, 10:34 PM

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this isnt saurian where you've got a chance because the ai isnt all that bright and theres no one else around. spawning as a baby would fuck people over with no chance for getting anywhere

patent spade Dec 21, 2019, 10:34 PM

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oh god being a hatchling utah and a velo spawns XD

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rip

empty dove Dec 21, 2019, 10:42 PM

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Yeah that’d be a rip

mossy horizon Dec 22, 2019, 7:08 AM

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Aren't all growth rates gonna be 1? Also seamless growth

barren zephyr Dec 22, 2019, 1:33 PM

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Don't get me wrong, playing compy would probably be fun. But it would end up just like velo, where nobody ever plays it even though you can play it. I think taking time to make it a playable,(if it is an ai, which I have a feeling it is) would be a waste. Taco, Oro, and velo are all playable but even in sandbox people only play them for the memes

indigo sun Dec 22, 2019, 3:27 PM

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@barren zephyr I'm sorry but a logout timer not working when you've been hit in the last five minutes is terrible. What if I've won a fight and am healing but I have to go two minutes after the fight? I have to leave my dinosaur there? Also if youre having issues with a dinosaur not dying in a minute or taking sufficient damage that it has to get up and fight you off perhaps you just shouldn't be fighing it. Also, i'm pretty sure anything other than safelogging does make your dinosaur stay in the server for an extended time but until they starve is just too much. Things happen and you can't always wait for the timer or some players just don't know or need to quit the game early for some reason.

last heath Dec 22, 2019, 4:07 PM

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@agile zinc i see your point, but that would make revenge killing mighty easy

agile zinc Dec 22, 2019, 4:11 PM

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yeah thats what im afraid of too. Kinda like in WoW etc when u were lvling ur alt, some twink just killed u, u got angry, logged on ur main and hunted for the guy :D. And rule like "no revenge hunting" might not rly help aswell. Tho there could be some kind mechanic to avoid it. Like maybe, u can logg to diffrent dino only after certain time, like 30min between switches. And if u chosen a dino, got killed in it, the cooldown is still on, so u gotta create a new one. Might also kinda force it to spawn on some diffrent spawn. Tho thats kinda bad idea aswell.. hmm

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eventuallly, make just like 2 spots on one u can pick only Carni and on another only Herbi dino. might kinda work, like if u got ur apex killed u wont probably be able to revenge kill someone as a maia :D.

last heath Dec 22, 2019, 4:20 PM

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Meh, idk, dont have an opinion

valid zephyr Dec 22, 2019, 4:27 PM

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@burnt fern from what we know, dimporphism is purely visual.

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so one gender being larger and more powerful

indigo sun Dec 22, 2019, 4:28 PM

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there wont be power differences

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just you can look and tell what they are

burnt fern Dec 22, 2019, 4:34 PM

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i know, i never claimed it wasn't purely for aesthetics, i would just prefer some variety in male/female dimorphism

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like yeah one gender looks bigger and scarier, but i dont think there will be a stat difference

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nor would i want stat differences tbh

burnt obsidian Dec 22, 2019, 4:37 PM

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If there would be stat diffrences there would be purely of that gender, so there would be barely any nests and breeding pairs, i guess.

burnt fern Dec 22, 2019, 4:40 PM

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sorry i don't quite understand what u said lol

burnt obsidian Dec 22, 2019, 4:41 PM

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Players would mostly pick the stronger one if there would be stat differences so there wouldn't be any hatchlings

burnt fern Dec 22, 2019, 4:41 PM

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oh ok
yeah, i agree

pulsar lake Dec 22, 2019, 5:24 PM

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I saw your reaction under my suggestion @winter sage so I would like to know in what you don't agree.
I like when people explain why they disagree, thing than I do.

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I like to talk with people about this kind of stuff

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I like to talk ajout what I don't like in a suggestion, except if it is unbalanced or really dumb like Giga buff.

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And same for @mighty girder.

mighty girder Dec 22, 2019, 5:27 PM

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It shouldn't change things that are used to deal dmg, as that would require different hitboxes

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And the hitboxes should remain the same

pulsar lake Dec 22, 2019, 5:28 PM

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That don't change damage

mighty girder Dec 22, 2019, 5:28 PM

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I didnt say anything about dmg

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I said hitbox

pulsar lake Dec 22, 2019, 5:28 PM

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I said at the beginning "only cosmetic"

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So nothing change for the damages and hitbox

mighty girder Dec 22, 2019, 5:28 PM

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Triceratops : Horns could change between male and female as like Horridus and Porosus but as we know there is a project of customizable horns for him (like allo).

Diabloceratops : Same as Trike but for the horns over the head, like female has smaller one than male and they're pointing up to the sky, male could like now or a bit larger.

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How would you do that

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without changing the hitbox

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to match

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hm?

pulsar lake Dec 22, 2019, 5:29 PM

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It stay the same

mighty girder Dec 22, 2019, 5:29 PM

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But it can't

pulsar lake Dec 22, 2019, 5:29 PM

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That only model changement

mighty girder Dec 22, 2019, 5:29 PM

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If the female has smaller horns, it can't hit you with just open air. Its hitbox would have to be changed to match

indigo sun Dec 22, 2019, 5:29 PM

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there doesnt have to be a huge difference or hell they could just change the point of the horns instead of the size

mighty girder Dec 22, 2019, 5:29 PM

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Which I'm 100% against, male and female should have same hitboxes

pulsar lake Dec 22, 2019, 5:29 PM

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I agree

mighty girder Dec 22, 2019, 5:30 PM

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I'd be fine if it was like, Crest size (I think the full idea of it is stupid tbh but it is what it is) But crest instead of horns would be better

pulsar lake Dec 22, 2019, 5:30 PM

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But horridus and porous horns aren't that different in size

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Just the form

mighty girder Dec 22, 2019, 5:30 PM

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Why on earth would you make them different species

pulsar lake Dec 22, 2019, 5:30 PM

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And for the Dibble I talked about the upper horns, not the facial ones

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Just as sexual dimorphism

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No hitbox or damage changement

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That's dumb

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I against things like female weaker than male.
Thing needs to be balanced

mighty girder Dec 22, 2019, 5:32 PM

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But if you change the horns you have to change the hitbox to match the model change

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thats what you arent getting

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so instead just shrink the crest I guess

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because crest doesnt do dmg

pulsar lake Dec 22, 2019, 5:34 PM

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After I said than horns probably will be customizable

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📎 IMG_20191222_183344.jpg

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But yeah it could be the crest that change

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Or/with the little horns

winter sage Dec 22, 2019, 5:40 PM

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Is there scientific proof that those changes are accurate though?

pulsar lake Dec 22, 2019, 5:42 PM

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We don't really care in The Isle about scientific accuracy. But these species, with their looking, could have a sexual dimorphism in The Isle.

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Like Cerato for example with his horns

winter sage Dec 22, 2019, 5:42 PM

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Not to mention it isn't always the case that females are smaller. Take black widows, hyenas, elephants, etc

pulsar lake Dec 22, 2019, 5:43 PM

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Size changement shouldn't be a thing in my opinion

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Just little details.

patent spade Dec 22, 2019, 5:46 PM

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honestly as long as the stats arent different at all it should be fine with different sizes between genders, which I think a dev said their stats dont change right?

pulsar lake Dec 22, 2019, 5:47 PM

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Stats shouldn't change and I think devs already said that.

patent spade Dec 22, 2019, 5:50 PM

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god dammit my other msg didnt send PepeHands. I think Crest patterns being different between genders for trikes would be better than changing the size of their horns, but we will see what the devs have done

pulsar lake Dec 22, 2019, 5:52 PM

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I fought for some month and already did a suggestion that colors shouldn't be the only sexual dimorphism. I think trike should get one with the little hors on the nose and for the crest like male as a larger one (but not super large).

white torrent Dec 22, 2019, 6:01 PM

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Daggum- that pic of the trikes makes me wish we had better looking trikes lol

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Anyway- id enjoy purely aesthetic sexual dimorphism

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No stat changes- this is a game and we all gotta be equal, this ain’t real life

valid zephyr Dec 22, 2019, 6:04 PM

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Different sizes are different stats.

A smaller model will have a smaller hitbox, which will make it better in combat.

If it uses the same animations it will also be slower, and the animations would need to be redone to keep it the same speed. (Or you could speed up the animations which just looks wrong).

Saying changing the size doesn't change the stats is just wrong.

white torrent Dec 22, 2019, 6:11 PM

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I don’t mean size changes

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Things like the para’s new crests is what I mean

valid zephyr Dec 22, 2019, 6:15 PM

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Nah other people have said about size changes not being stat changes. Wasn't aimed at you.

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I like things like different crests and colours.

agile zinc Dec 22, 2019, 6:27 PM

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@still needle i think it might be kinda fixed with like, getting "invincible" for few mins/seconds upon logging to the game. Where u cant be killed untill u move or "buff " fades out.

wintry cipher Dec 22, 2019, 7:02 PM

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@covert birch not sure if compy will be playable but thats a very interesting niche idea tbh. play as a swarm of small dinos instead of just one; though that would likely need some advanced ai for the swarm as you would ultimately be controlling just 1 and the others mimick you

indigo sun Dec 22, 2019, 7:03 PM

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Thats actually really neat, I like that

barren zephyr Dec 22, 2019, 7:21 PM

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The Isle future will have hybird dinos?

pulsar lake Dec 22, 2019, 7:24 PM

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Not hybrid, mutants

barren zephyr Dec 22, 2019, 7:45 PM

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raptor pounce and body dragging will be defo added

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anky bb will be added if anky gets added

copper gorge Dec 22, 2019, 8:05 PM

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@barren zephyr that's what I like to hear

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@pulsar lake Will the mutants to obtainable to the general player base? Or is it only select players like the devs and youtubers?

barren zephyr Dec 22, 2019, 8:13 PM

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@copper gorge if you mean strains, they are rn only in development aka dev only, but everyone will be able to obtain them

copper gorge Dec 22, 2019, 8:13 PM

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aww ok

indigo sun Dec 22, 2019, 8:17 PM

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They'll be available to players in the future

copper gorge Dec 22, 2019, 8:17 PM

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epic

covert birch Dec 22, 2019, 10:15 PM

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@wintry cipher while idk how well the AI will be with recode but a good way to be able to fix/control that is by limiting the amount of AI per player. So like every player can have up to 4 ai following him. The biggest issue imo for this suggestion tho is how grouping would work and whether you would be able to combine swarms

wintry cipher Dec 22, 2019, 10:17 PM

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probably wouldnt be able to combine swarms with multiple players. I would say that kind of dino would actually not need or benefit really from grouping

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youd already be handling a swarm of hungry mouths. why rely on others and struggle to ensure all of your swarmlings stay full?

covert birch Dec 22, 2019, 10:22 PM

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So are u saying they shouldnt group at all or that it would just be non-beneficial

valid zephyr Dec 22, 2019, 11:59 PM

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people forgetting that this is the channel for suggestion discussion?

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pachyrhino would be a perfectly good playable imo, but I don't think another ceratopsian is likley

barren zephyr Dec 23, 2019, 12:06 AM

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Just gotta hope for the best

copper gorge Dec 23, 2019, 12:24 AM

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should the maiasaurus be replaced by iguanodon?

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benefits are that it could do bleed damage with its thumbs

valid zephyr Dec 23, 2019, 12:25 AM

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A: Iggy isn't much like maia at all.

B: Why would you delete a dino to add a new one? Deleting a dino doesn't get back the amount of time and money spent on it.

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If iggy got added, it could easily be alongside maia.

mighty girder Dec 23, 2019, 1:10 AM

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@granite cedar you realize suggestions isnt a discussion channel right

last heath Dec 23, 2019, 1:13 AM

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And mouth grapple is already confirmed.

wise warren Dec 23, 2019, 1:15 AM

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Allo is 2 shot by a rex, not 1 shot

last heath Dec 23, 2019, 1:17 AM

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well, it's kind of a one shot, so....

granite cedar Dec 23, 2019, 1:17 AM

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@mighty girder absolutly didnt notice this

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sorry ^^

blazing charm Dec 23, 2019, 1:19 AM

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I'd probably delete the clutter if I were you.

granite cedar Dec 23, 2019, 1:20 AM

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@blazing charm only my suggesiton description is left now

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my argue for the bite catch is that, it would add interaction instead of just smashing left click...
U can try a high risk / high reward catch, that would need like a small duration cast and small cooldown (like half a second to a second), and if u succeed to it, it catched the target. He's not dead, he still can escape, but with heavy blood. A teammate could rescue him by attacking the attacker.
That would add importance to play in group, to protect eachother, and would make u feel even more scaredand oppressed of being lonely.

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With why not a - small - random chance to escape fast or not fast... just to make the game more credible, cuz I really DONT THINK a rex would one shot an allo if this had to happen in real life. The fight should get more than just CLICK oh he's dead, looked like a headbut lol !

blazing charm Dec 23, 2019, 1:24 AM

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Okay first off

granite cedar Dec 23, 2019, 1:24 AM

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I don't know if I'm alone to think this way, but every ppl I play with and I talk about would think this feature cool

blazing charm Dec 23, 2019, 1:25 AM

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It is already confirmed that you will be able to bite and hold onto prey.

granite cedar Dec 23, 2019, 1:25 AM

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OH I did not know that !

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I've only heared about the feature, I'm still a new player

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I play since 5 or 6 days

blazing charm Dec 23, 2019, 1:25 AM

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Second, Rex is a terrible example to use for that, that is an animal that depending where it grabs you, you're uber fucked.

granite cedar Dec 23, 2019, 1:25 AM

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I mean I've just heared, didnt read anything official

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and never watched official dev stream or whatever

blazing charm Dec 23, 2019, 1:26 AM

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It's fine, you know now.

granite cedar Dec 23, 2019, 1:26 AM

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Any place I can know EVERYTHING we know so far about next update ?

indigo sun Dec 23, 2019, 1:27 AM

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i'll compile a list

blazing charm Dec 23, 2019, 1:27 AM

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Well, first off it's not necessarily an "update", they are rebuilding the entire game.

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Oh, thanks Nines.

indigo sun Dec 23, 2019, 1:27 AM

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they've rebuilt the game and are delivering it as an update

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its a rather large update

blazing charm Dec 23, 2019, 1:28 AM

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Well, I know it'd technically count as an update when it arrives, but I emphasizing that it's not just a simple-old update

granite cedar Dec 23, 2019, 1:35 AM

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that's why I've gifted the game to friends for christmas, u guys make a huge work so far

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and deluver all of this for no more penny

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that's quite huge, ty

indigo sun Dec 23, 2019, 4:15 AM

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@brittle fossil rex doesnt really need more money spent on another remodel. It looks just fine. Giga will be getting a remodel though, an entire remake in general really

brittle fossil Dec 23, 2019, 4:16 AM

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That's nice

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Well thank you for the information on giga :3

indigo sun Dec 23, 2019, 4:16 AM

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youre welcome

finite perch Dec 23, 2019, 4:53 AM

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@thorny lynx the screenshot ingame is on an angle, and the skull you have overlain is facing flat towards the camera. theres no way for that overlay to work out? the eye seems to be far back enough in the head to be in the correct cavity, but due to its angle it can seem closer towards the snout than it really is

thorny lynx Dec 23, 2019, 4:54 AM

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I am not the one who made the screenshots.

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They came from somebody who knew what they were doing. I'm sure they can take another image of the spino facing completely to the side and add the skull on top. I shall not discuss this further.

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The screenshot is Spino facing to the side but tilting his head downwards. Simply placing the skull over the model works.

finite perch Dec 23, 2019, 4:59 AM

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oh i dont mean an up-down tilt, i mean a forwards-backwards tilt. its still rotated away from the camera, the 2d skull wont match up unless you get a 3d rotation of it

thorny lynx Dec 23, 2019, 4:59 AM

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📎 image0-2.png

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Spino is literally facing the side here. Just tilting his head down.

finite perch Dec 23, 2019, 5:00 AM

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yes, down and away. these thoughts can coexist

thorny lynx Dec 23, 2019, 5:00 AM

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He is not facing away from the camera.

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📎 image0-1.jpg

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This is how the skull should look. Spino's snout is too short and the nostrils are incorrectly-placed.

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No amount of angle adjustment will fix Spino's skull shape and length. It dips instead of being flat on the top and it is too short and the nostril is too low on the snout.

mighty girder Dec 23, 2019, 5:20 AM

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Spino is fine

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good grief

thorny lynx Dec 23, 2019, 5:21 AM

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That's your opinion.

woeful pasture Dec 23, 2019, 5:24 AM

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lol the last one was pretty mush asking for old spino

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the new one looks beast dude

thorny lynx Dec 23, 2019, 5:29 AM

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The head bothers me.

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The rest is fine.

night mountain Dec 23, 2019, 5:29 AM

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I don’t really care about the tiny details like small bits of angle and whatever but yeah having it properly long at least would be nice

thorny lynx Dec 23, 2019, 5:30 AM

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All I would like to see is a longer snout and larger crest. That's it.

I do not mind the angry brows. I do not mind the robustness of the skull and the teeth any more. I actually have come to accept and enjoy those aspects. I just want my long snout boi.

night mountain Dec 23, 2019, 5:33 AM

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I don’t expect them to actually change this and I know it’s an unpopular opinion but spinos super short legs, long face, and dumb cormorant stance where it looks like it’s about to fall on its face is what makes it really unique and cool. PelaFeelsBad

thorny lynx Dec 23, 2019, 5:35 AM

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I love my duck boi, yes.

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Jake made a scientifically-accurate spino sometime ago and I would love to see it as an alternate spinosaurus that is mainly aquatic.

wild stone Dec 23, 2019, 5:37 AM

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I'm really surprised that people are upset with the spinos head and not it's sail. Not that I have issues with it myself

thorny lynx Dec 23, 2019, 5:37 AM

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I narked on the sail, but someone mentioned it would not look proportional since our Spino has a chonky midsection. Then I dropped it.

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Also for the camouflage.

crimson phoenix Dec 23, 2019, 5:52 AM

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as someone who has hunted in this game as a spino, im very happy the sail is small even if it's not accurate

thorny lynx Dec 23, 2019, 6:11 AM

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Yeah, I don't mind the sail anymore. I do mind how short the snout and crest are, though.

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I just want it to be as long as our old Spino but still be thicc and robust.

barren zephyr Dec 23, 2019, 7:28 AM

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Hey guys,with my pachyrhino suggestion is there anything you didn’t like or I could improve on ?

valid flower Dec 23, 2019, 9:00 AM

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@agile zinc Was gonna agree with your suggestion until you mentioned a nerf/debuff.

barren zephyr Dec 23, 2019, 9:59 AM

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@reef thorn

from pinned messages; For everyone posting suggestions, from now on suggestions containing 'nerf x/buff x' are not permissive as they add nothing of value for the development team. Please propose a possible fix or weigh balance changes.

reef thorn Dec 23, 2019, 10:00 AM

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what?

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I don't understand

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oh

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so like say

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ava should get 6k health

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I can't process it

barren zephyr Dec 23, 2019, 10:01 AM

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Why buff the Ava? you need a reason basically why it should be buffed.

reef thorn Dec 23, 2019, 10:01 AM

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uh a herra can kill it

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I use to be able to kill herra as ava

barren zephyr Dec 23, 2019, 10:01 AM

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id suggest editing your suggestion adding your reasoning why it should be buffed.

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thats i mean

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its AI

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not a playable

reef thorn Dec 23, 2019, 10:03 AM

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no! why

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its fun dino to play

night mountain Dec 23, 2019, 10:03 AM

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Make it hostile to juvi apex carnis

reef thorn Dec 23, 2019, 10:03 AM

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yes

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and like 300 damage

barren zephyr Dec 23, 2019, 10:05 AM

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bruh

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Id say a good reasoning for it to be buffed it being aggressive towards same sized and under sizeed dinos. basically juvis and everything close to it ; so AI isnt just an easy meal.

white torrent Dec 23, 2019, 10:50 AM

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I hope spino doesn’t have some bird like stance or anything- I wanna feel like a heavy Titan, not some lame ass duck

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Also, buff Ava to make hunting them more of a challenge

valid zephyr Dec 23, 2019, 10:58 AM

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I defo agree about the ava buff. 100N damage and 15 bleed.

I should be risky and terrifying for juvies and fresh adult utahs/dilos to attack. Would be great if they defended themselves rather than just sat being bitten until they died.

valid zephyr Dec 23, 2019, 12:18 PM

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@quartz remnant I'd rather giga got more bleed and less bite force. It's meant to be a bleeder dino and it one shots most things it faces due to bite force alone.

Nerfing its bleed and making it rely on bite force more makes it just rex mk2.

agile zinc Dec 23, 2019, 1:40 PM

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@valid flower yeah it does not have to be included, might not rly work properly and be just annyoing.

valid flower Dec 23, 2019, 2:01 PM

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@quartz remnant butthurt rex fanboy thinking rex should be able to 1 shot trikes and gigas

woeful pasture Dec 23, 2019, 3:02 PM

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Its sad when someone makes a huge suggestion that would have to be such a big update to the game it would be like 3.0. The only suggestions the devs probably will listen to are small ones that are easy to add

patent spade Dec 23, 2019, 3:05 PM

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sounds to me like someone was just a bad rex player and died to a giga lol. giga is suppose to be a bleeder not a biter

indigo sun Dec 23, 2019, 3:06 PM

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if a suggestion is actually good the devs would listen to it and potentially add it or parts of it, regardless of length. It's actually a thing that your suggestion needs a bit of content instead of "add this thing"

analog ingot Dec 23, 2019, 4:01 PM

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I wish spino had more smooth skin (texture) on some places, it somehow looks too dry for me.
Guess its pretty impossible to want a bigger sail because of those chonky arms and weight. The right color choice could fix this maybe.
Now the tail... is it just me or is it a tad bit short? ...
lol, yes I agree on doing some head changes similar to what Ultimate Fluff #CherryTrain 🍒🚆 suggested.

Ok so these are probably the only persoanlly issues im having with spino. dondiFeelsGoodMan /

umbral prairie Dec 23, 2019, 4:49 PM

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@stoic crow I think the bb system will get a rework aswell, I'm sure they'll think of something to make it much better than it is now

barren zephyr Dec 23, 2019, 5:04 PM

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imo it would be better to have patterns unlocked from the start for everyone

burnt sierra Dec 23, 2019, 7:46 PM

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It would be cool if dinosaurs could just roll/rag doll down hills

thorny lynx Dec 23, 2019, 7:46 PM

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You mean when they're alive?

safe galleon Dec 23, 2019, 7:46 PM

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they would probly break every bone in their body

burnt sierra Dec 23, 2019, 7:46 PM

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Yes

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While they’re alive

paper oriole Dec 23, 2019, 7:47 PM

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They wouldnt be very alive by the end of it

burnt sierra Dec 23, 2019, 7:47 PM

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Agsgfb

safe galleon Dec 23, 2019, 7:47 PM

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imagine a cama rolling down a hill
dondiLUL

paper oriole Dec 23, 2019, 7:47 PM

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Watching live dinos flail down a mountain and die would be golden tho

tired flame Dec 23, 2019, 7:47 PM

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poor cama

safe galleon Dec 23, 2019, 7:47 PM

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or better

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a pue

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oh wait

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I mean brachi

paper oriole Dec 23, 2019, 7:48 PM

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Would make ledge baiting apexes all the more entertaining

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If the bodies could also hit other dinos on the way and knock them over too

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Imagine a herd of shants traveling down a steep slope and one falls and makes a domino effect of flailing shants crashing down the hill

safe galleon Dec 23, 2019, 7:49 PM

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dondiLUL

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you could make a custom bowling gamemode

paper oriole Dec 23, 2019, 7:50 PM

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Yes

burnt sierra Dec 23, 2019, 7:52 PM

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We need this in the game

tired flame Dec 23, 2019, 7:52 PM

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hmm, seems dangerous tho

paper oriole Dec 23, 2019, 7:54 PM

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Danger is hot

safe galleon Dec 23, 2019, 7:54 PM

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it's new, it's risky, but it's fresh and I love it

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anky rolling down a hill smashing into some rexes insta killing them

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I see no problem with that

burnt sierra Dec 23, 2019, 7:57 PM

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I wanna be walking on a hill and then suddenly fall from nothing

barren zephyr Dec 23, 2019, 7:58 PM

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I think Anky and pachyrhino would be the best BB herbies

night mountain Dec 23, 2019, 8:09 PM

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Honestly I hugely want first person for the dinosaurs exclusively so you can peek out of a bush without having to walk 10 feet into the open

little tendon Dec 23, 2019, 8:10 PM

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then how can you see things behind you?

night mountain Dec 23, 2019, 8:10 PM

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Make it switchable with a button

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Think how gta works

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Imagine tall grass with current POV lmao

little tendon Dec 23, 2019, 8:10 PM

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i think first person would make things worse in tall grass

night mountain Dec 23, 2019, 8:11 PM

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It’d let you peek out at least, for running around it’d suck though

little tendon Dec 23, 2019, 8:12 PM

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I kinda dont agree with the first person idea

paper oriole Dec 23, 2019, 8:17 PM

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Itd make it so youd only have to poke your head out of foliage to take a peek as opposed to adjusting your entire body and risk exposing yourself more so why not have it as an option

umbral prairie Dec 23, 2019, 8:36 PM

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I'd love first person, it would make the game way scarier imo

quartz remnant Dec 23, 2019, 9:00 PM

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@valid flower do you suffer with Mental Illness? please provide evidance i have said Rex should 1 shot Trikes and Gigas? i have no complaints in Trikes killing Rexes and Gigas killing Rexes with there bleed, but please provide evidance i claimed otherwise

indigo sun Dec 23, 2019, 9:01 PM

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i'm not about to agree with Jerry and never will but I have never heard of giga winning easily against a rex unless it got lucky and the rex didnt get bb on the first bite

quartz remnant Dec 23, 2019, 9:02 PM

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i killed Rexes with Giga, its hard but can be done

indigo sun Dec 23, 2019, 9:02 PM

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so if it's hard then why is the rex bleeding to death in 2-3 bites?

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doesnt sound hard to me

quartz remnant Dec 23, 2019, 9:03 PM

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Rexs bb makes it hard, take bb away then it becomes easy

indigo sun Dec 23, 2019, 9:03 PM

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bb isnt going away though

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so not much of a point

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i agree giga should be nerfed but not in bleed

quartz remnant Dec 23, 2019, 9:04 PM

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i agree, its bite force needs to be nerfed

indigo sun Dec 23, 2019, 9:04 PM

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getting rid of the bleed just makes it rex without bb and a slightly lower biteforce. lower the biteforce if anything, and let it keep the bleed since it's a bleed and endurance hunter

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dunno why you said to nerf the bleed then

quartz remnant Dec 23, 2019, 9:05 PM

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just like Giga cry babies want bb to be nerfed

indigo sun Dec 23, 2019, 9:05 PM

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what

paper oriole Dec 23, 2019, 9:07 PM

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what kind of disease? what mechanic affects would it have? how would dinos get them? i don't think thats a very clear suggestion

quartz remnant Dec 23, 2019, 9:08 PM

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i have no issues with Giga bleed at 50 just like i have no problem with Rexs BB at 70%, but you get lot of Giga players crying its too high, i play Giga and Rex

indigo sun Dec 23, 2019, 9:08 PM

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bone break isnt even gonna work the same and neither is bleed

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we have no clue how these things will work

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well

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actually we've got an idea

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its just a vague idea on how it'll work

quartz remnant Dec 23, 2019, 9:09 PM

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exactly

paper oriole Dec 23, 2019, 9:10 PM

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that sounds kinda abusable, dinos could eat a rotten corpse and make themselves sick as a way to food deny if eating them makes others sick in turn @barren zephyr

indigo sun Dec 23, 2019, 9:10 PM

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what the fuck is this conversation i feel like i've been dragged in circles

barren zephyr Dec 23, 2019, 9:11 PM

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@paper oriole Maybe just temp sickness, like 5 mins or 10

harsh onyx Dec 23, 2019, 9:12 PM

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@paper oriole To be honest, I was thinking of some dental infections and something else to counter it. But I just left it in "Diseases?" just to know if everyone would like to add such thing. I don't think it is something you would need to spread and will affect all dinosaurs, if we talk about dental infections.

barren zephyr Dec 23, 2019, 9:12 PM

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And I wouldn't quite say it's abusable if in turn on getting sick, It would give your dino's a bit of debuff

paper oriole Dec 23, 2019, 9:12 PM

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maybe rotten gore would make dinos sick, and they could shorten the duration by drinking a lot of fresh water. certain dinos (scavengers) would be immune to this like cerato and troodon. i dont think eating a sick dino should be punished though, maybe it'd just give less food

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if anything

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or the body would decay faster

harsh onyx Dec 23, 2019, 9:13 PM

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I was thinking of something not so normal. Probably have a chance of getting a dental diseas after eating and drinking from dirty swamp water.

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Just to don't make it happen so frequently.

barren zephyr Dec 23, 2019, 9:13 PM

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Well it does sound realistic, seeing animals in real life knows to stay away from sick animals

paper oriole Dec 23, 2019, 9:13 PM

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cerato could benefit from toxic water and bodies and gain a septic bite too

harsh onyx Dec 23, 2019, 9:14 PM

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I wouldn't like to add something that could be toxic or that could be spreaded, since it will be just chaos.

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People spreading diseases to kill other players, not cool man

paper oriole Dec 23, 2019, 9:14 PM

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game mechanic wise though it'd be used to food deny if making yourself sick made others sick

barren zephyr Dec 23, 2019, 9:15 PM

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Well you got a point. I do think getting sick of rotten meat could be cool and a way to make people hunt for fresh food

paper oriole Dec 23, 2019, 9:15 PM

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there could be visible toxic algae that'd appear in certain waters that would make dinos sick except cerato and troodon and possible others. it wouldn't be common though, and rotten corpses which would obviously be a lot more common

harsh onyx Dec 23, 2019, 9:15 PM

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So hypothetically, maybe a less dangerous disease that will only have an effect on minor stats.

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That's why I thought about a dental disease.

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Will probably affect all carnivores and some hervibores.

barren zephyr Dec 23, 2019, 9:16 PM

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Maybe corpses rottening in water would spoil the water and make it undrinkable

paper oriole Dec 23, 2019, 9:16 PM

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a disease that put a cap on the amount of food your dino can eat maybe, so you aren't able to get as full, a disease that makes your hunger and/or drain faster, a disease that makes you less resistant to bleed

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ehh thats abusable

harsh onyx Dec 23, 2019, 9:17 PM

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The dental disease will worse your teeth over time and your bleed will decrease, not your bite force tho.

paper oriole Dec 23, 2019, 9:17 PM

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imagine dryo players bath bombing water to poison it

harsh onyx Dec 23, 2019, 9:17 PM

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Ew

paper oriole Dec 23, 2019, 9:17 PM

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yes

barren zephyr Dec 23, 2019, 9:18 PM

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hahaaHAHA

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more like, just a small area around the corpse in the water, not the entire LAKE ;P

wintry cipher Dec 23, 2019, 9:27 PM

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Drinking stagnant water could fill your water bar half as quickly and make your screen blur. Not the awful nausea wobbly shit though

blazing charm Dec 23, 2019, 9:32 PM

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Diseases sound decent on paper, until you realise nobody actually likes dying from sickness when, spoiler alert-

animals have very little way to actually treat such illnesses.

You could argue you could seek out medicinal plants, but there would eventually come a point where a demmand for these herbs would be high and thus you're forced to reset because of something you had no control over and now, no way to counter. Plus the concept of seeking out special plants could be given much more intuitive uses, like Affinity boosting or even temporary stat buffs.

paper oriole Dec 23, 2019, 9:33 PM

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could go with good old drink fuck tons of water to speed up getting rid of the disease lol

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diseases really arent needed but it'd be sort of neat to have certain dinos who could take advantage of rotten corpses that others would have reason to avoid.

harsh onyx Dec 23, 2019, 10:04 PM

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@blazing charm It doesn't need to be a toxic disease or a frequent one

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I mean, monster plants are a thing. Or that's what dondi said.

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Why not have a single or two diseases.

still needle Dec 23, 2019, 11:08 PM

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diseases is kind of like lightning striking dinosaurs it sounds cool/funny when you are saying it but then it happens to your 8 hour growth dinosaur and you cant do much about it

fathom harness Dec 23, 2019, 11:27 PM

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The best way to really implement diseases, in my opinion, is by using diseases as a mechanic to encourage players to make choices accurate to their dinosaur and give different dinosaurs niches. Though yeah, having diseases out right kill your dino imo is a horrible idea, with instead simply having diseases cause various debuffs such as slower stamina regeneration, faster thirst drain, decreased hunger pool, etc, being a better option. In addition, having rotted meat potentially carry diseases that scavenger-niche dinosaurs would be immune to is definitely a interesting concept, since it would give those niches an actual mechanic to benefit them.

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Also since high stress is connected to lowered immune systems, it would make sense for diseases to be a punishment for having low affinity for a prolonged period of time, if affinity is implemented that is.

indigo sun Dec 23, 2019, 11:37 PM

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@sturdy ingot body dragging is planned to be implemented, likely with the recode as it was shown a bit in the past few months

sturdy ingot Dec 23, 2019, 11:37 PM

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ah, awesome!!

wise warren Dec 23, 2019, 11:38 PM

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wait wait

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leaves a blood trail

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what

sturdy ingot Dec 23, 2019, 11:38 PM

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it would be cool, since a dead animal being dragged, due to punctures or a missing limb or something, a blood trail would be left in it's wake as the predator drags it off.

wise warren Dec 23, 2019, 11:39 PM

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I was thinking you mean the blood trail for carrying a baby lmao

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for a body would be cool but i was so confused

sturdy ingot Dec 23, 2019, 11:40 PM

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oh no!! for prey! for dead prey!, though it would also be cool to carry living prey, small prey so that you can 'teach your juvies how to hunt' by letting them chase down a dryo or some kind of injured animal for them. Like, if/when humans are introduced, I could see that being done by rexes or gigas, just take a broken human back to the nest, drop them and let the juvies 'hunt' them lol.

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maybe too realistic?

wintry cipher Dec 24, 2019, 12:27 AM

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@stuck chasm if you want to play something in a single session that cant last even 2 hours id recommend dryo or just growing over multiple sessions.

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Currently, growing a dino is too easy, so we see a lot of apexes when they should be rare. I'm pretty sure once recode hits doung things your dino likes will make it grow faster but for now the only reason we aren't completely and utterly overrun with rexes and gigas and trikes is because of the long grow times

last heath Dec 24, 2019, 12:43 AM

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as if we are not overrun by them anyway...

brittle fossil Dec 24, 2019, 12:51 AM

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I don't see why not upgrade Apex growth, in my opinion, it way to to easy ._.

indigo sun Dec 24, 2019, 12:55 AM

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I wouldnt say trike is the most feared thing for apexes

thorn wagon Dec 24, 2019, 12:55 AM

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It’s too easy NOW

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Because ai spawns on top of you

indigo sun Dec 24, 2019, 12:55 AM

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When you dont get spoonfed and cant sit around it'll be different

thorn wagon Dec 24, 2019, 12:55 AM

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That’s not how it’ll be later, you’ll have to look for the food

brittle fossil Dec 24, 2019, 12:56 AM

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Well I am a rex main qnd trikes scare me

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But

indigo sun Dec 24, 2019, 12:56 AM

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Why?

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You can facetank them

brittle fossil Dec 24, 2019, 12:56 AM

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I'm not a cocky rex

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Plus if their is one trike, their are more horned babies hiding

indigo sun Dec 24, 2019, 12:57 AM

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Aight, regardless, growing an apex wont be easy when you've got to actively search for food

brittle fossil Dec 24, 2019, 12:58 AM

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Mhm but I still want it even harder

indigo sun Dec 24, 2019, 12:58 AM

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I suppose i wont be upset with apexes being rarer but longer growth times wont make it harder

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Making growth actually harder will make it harder

brittle fossil Dec 24, 2019, 12:59 AM

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I give ya a point on that

indigo sun Dec 24, 2019, 12:59 AM

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People will just keep bush sittin and shit no matter how long it takes

agile kiln Dec 24, 2019, 1:00 AM

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that should be adressed

indigo sun Dec 24, 2019, 1:00 AM

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But things like what's planned, offering shorter growth times for playing the game instead of bushsitting, those will do a better job

agile kiln Dec 24, 2019, 1:00 AM

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make growing an apex require more player interaction somehow

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would make it harder whilst not just lengthening growth times

indigo sun Dec 24, 2019, 1:01 AM

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Levi thats sort of planned already. People have to move to get shorter growth times and people would likely rather take the shorter growth

brittle fossil Dec 24, 2019, 1:01 AM

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So moving around, exploring, looking for food, etc, will make ya grow easier?

agile kiln Dec 24, 2019, 1:01 AM

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I do reckon once scent gets fully implemented bush sitting will become less viable

indigo sun Dec 24, 2019, 1:01 AM

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Yes

brittle fossil Dec 24, 2019, 1:01 AM

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If I understood that rightly

indigo sun Dec 24, 2019, 1:01 AM

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It comes with making yourself more vulnerable since youre not hiding

agile kiln Dec 24, 2019, 1:02 AM

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hmm

brittle fossil Dec 24, 2019, 1:02 AM

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Even with that being planned, I do want growth time being alittle bit longer

agile kiln Dec 24, 2019, 1:03 AM

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I do hope they add a mechanic where if you're full you grow faster with Deinosuchus. since iirc that's what happends with crocodillians

indigo sun Dec 24, 2019, 1:04 AM

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Yeah i could see longer growth times working with that pushing people to take the shorter route. Just on its own longer growth doesnt make the game any harder

agile kiln Dec 24, 2019, 1:04 AM

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hmm

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is deinosuchus going to be able to bask?

indigo sun Dec 24, 2019, 1:04 AM

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We dont know

brittle fossil Dec 24, 2019, 1:04 AM

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Isn't deino take 45 hours to grow into adult?

indigo sun Dec 24, 2019, 1:04 AM

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Thats old information and likely changed

agile kiln Dec 24, 2019, 1:04 AM

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I'm gonna write a suggestion about basking

indigo sun Dec 24, 2019, 1:04 AM

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And its not 45 hours to adult

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It can get to adult before that. The 48 hours was getting to the 2.0 legendary deinosuchus

brittle fossil Dec 24, 2019, 1:05 AM

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Oh alrighty

indigo sun Dec 24, 2019, 1:06 AM

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But its probably not true anymore, that info was 2 years old

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Dondi says a lot of shit and forgets about it immediately after

brittle fossil Dec 24, 2019, 1:06 AM

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Mhm

agile kiln Dec 24, 2019, 1:08 AM

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aight, made a suggestion abt basking

little tendon Dec 24, 2019, 1:10 AM

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the spino should also have basking cause.....the sail

indigo sun Dec 24, 2019, 1:10 AM

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Huh?

agile kiln Dec 24, 2019, 1:11 AM

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not really

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dinosaurs were most likely warm blooded

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unlike crocodillians

last heath Dec 24, 2019, 1:13 AM

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the sail is for big dick energy reasons

agile kiln Dec 24, 2019, 1:13 AM

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funnily enough

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basically

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most likely for display

last heath Dec 24, 2019, 1:17 AM

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@brittle merlin juvis are planned to be made into something actually fun

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will be able to keep up with adults for exemple

little tendon Dec 24, 2019, 1:17 AM

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and will we not spawn on beaches in the middle of knowhere?

brittle merlin Dec 24, 2019, 1:18 AM

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i know that, but they gave very little info on what thay intales... which is what my suggestion is for

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that*

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like the learning mechanic

last heath Dec 24, 2019, 1:19 AM

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thats fair

brittle merlin Dec 24, 2019, 1:22 AM

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i personally really like the idea of in the beginning u can only tell the shape of the footprint, but as you see the dinos that produce the footprints you eventually gain the ability to smell which specific dino created said footprint

stuck chasm Dec 24, 2019, 1:46 AM

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@wintry cipher

I feel like playing for 6 hours straight shouldn't be considered easy.
Some of us have lives. Thanks for the suggestion tho.

wintry cipher Dec 24, 2019, 1:52 AM

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It is. Because that 6 hours isn't actually impacting how difficult it is to get to apex or adult dryo. If someone knows to keep quiet and to listen, they'll get adult every time no risk regardless of what they are or how long it takes; and it doesn't take skill to do that. If you want to be an adult Apex I'd reccomend a sandbox server as well if you don't like growth at least until the remake hits. But that's the only real coping mechanisms for a good long while yet.

frail sigil Dec 24, 2019, 3:08 AM

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@harsh rose Use this channel for any comments.

grand carbon Dec 24, 2019, 5:29 AM

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I think they should make the isle on console

barren zephyr Dec 24, 2019, 6:23 AM

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After seeing @ Ultimate Fluff #CherryTrain 🍒🚆's suggestion, I went into Paint3D and made a few slight alterations to the spino in the preview video. I moved the nostril up a bit more as well as the crest and tried to put and end to the whole double-face meme that spino has had by smoothing out a part above the tooth in the middle. I didn't lengthen the snout or increase the crest size. This, to me, looks perfect. Thoughts?

📎 New_Spino_Before__After.png

narrow ingot Dec 24, 2019, 9:24 AM

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Suggestion: npc #1. MEGAPIRAHNA 🐟🐟-

I honestly think megapirahna would be a good fish species to put in the isle. So basically I just imagined it being a scavenger "compsognathus" of the swamps, lakes, rivers of the island ...mainly feasting on dead corpses that happen to be in the water but also being prey to animals like spino, sucho, maybe even juv/adult deinosuchus....now im not sure of this other idea but i also thought maybe make them a little aggressive towards smaller creatures that are bleeding that may have a wound and stay in the waters too long...but fearing the larger dinosaurs...not sure if this would mess up gameplay...I also added a pic of their size compared to other dinosaurs and their skulls....also here's a vid I linked of pirahna's feasting : https://youtu.be/JQIo9r8ZcjM

📎 h5dlunhmysiyk5niwdbu.jpg 📎 megapiranha3.jpg 📎 ygxQ0tv.jpeg

YouTube

Tennessee Aquarium

Piranha Feeding Frenzy

You'll be amazed at how voracious these red-bellied piranhas become when a mackerel is lowered into their tank. At first they seem timid. But after the first piranha goes in for a bite, the rest of the school attacks in a full force feeding frenzy. Watch as this fish is strip...

▶ Play video

narrow ingot Dec 24, 2019, 10:11 AM

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Any opinions , ideas, critique ^

languid crown Dec 24, 2019, 10:36 AM

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i think it would work well as the water clean up crews, that is only spawning around bodies, scattering when a bigger predator comes to claim the body

narrow ingot Dec 24, 2019, 10:53 AM

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Yeah that's pretty much how I imagined it tbh..i think it would be a decent sized meal for any of the semi aquatic dinosaurs or deino..not sure if megapirahna would be better as a passive scavenger or a little aggressive towards other things. 🐟

valid zephyr Dec 24, 2019, 4:53 PM

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Huh surprising amount of people want males to have their detail colour at all ages. I didn't expect that.

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Currently only adults and subs have male detail colours.

feral sedge Dec 24, 2019, 6:25 PM

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thats because the want to be eaten sooner rather than later

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better to die as a young beauty than as a old beauty

fathom harness Dec 24, 2019, 6:31 PM

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@zinc fern. That is a fantastic idea! Do you mind if I include a detailed concept for that in my revised second version of Diseases and Parasites?

zinc fern Dec 24, 2019, 6:35 PM

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I don’t mind at all <33

fathom harness Dec 24, 2019, 6:47 PM

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Thank you :)

little tendon Dec 24, 2019, 7:08 PM

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how was my idea?

brittle fossil Dec 24, 2019, 7:09 PM

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Do you mind if I add something to it?

brittle fossil Dec 24, 2019, 7:29 PM

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@little tendon

little tendon Dec 24, 2019, 7:31 PM

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ye?

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sorry i was eating

brittle fossil Dec 24, 2019, 7:31 PM

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It's fine

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But may I add something to you're suggestion?

little tendon Dec 24, 2019, 7:32 PM

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sure

oblique sluice Dec 25, 2019, 12:58 AM

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@orchid light That was a mod, nothing more

orchid light Dec 25, 2019, 12:58 AM

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oh ok...

valid elk Dec 25, 2019, 5:37 AM

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I dunno why someone put a gun under my suggestion

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Just tag me and say why you dislike it, maybe we could converse and change it

barren zephyr Dec 25, 2019, 9:07 AM

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@barren zephyr except maybe the people seriously want Beezle in game and banning them for wanting an animal in the game is retarded

tawny kettle Dec 25, 2019, 9:10 AM

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They already said any suggestion about adding this or that dino will be removed anyway so that was unnecessary anyway

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Nix one anyway

hoary ocean Dec 25, 2019, 9:12 AM

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@barren zephyr Careful with what you post. You're lucky I show mercy otherwise another mod would've happily given you a second Strike. Post something more constructive next time and something you'd like to see in the game, not in this Discord.

patent spade Dec 25, 2019, 1:17 PM

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why would you need emotes if you can just type in a group chat? if you are solo then it doesnt matter since there is no one around to see you use them

tawny kettle Dec 25, 2019, 1:26 PM

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as I've said, for immersion and roleplay. just like how in fps games you can have emotes for "hold back" or "i'm hurt" to communicate with the team, I guess?

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plus as I recall, back in 2016 the devs said "more emotes other than the calls wheel are planned", so I figured it would be a good tip

indigo sun Dec 25, 2019, 1:27 PM

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I dont think they care much about roleplay

tawny kettle Dec 25, 2019, 1:27 PM

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I do not know what they care about.

indigo sun Dec 25, 2019, 1:29 PM

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Well the official servers are how the game is meant to be played and there's like, no rp whatsoever unless you count the utahs who sit at docks. Private servers can mod in whatever animations or calls they want when the dev kit is back for their roleplay endeavors

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Wait let me correct that

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That's how the game is intended to be played

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And private servers can do whatever they want so they make their own version of how the game is played

mighty girder Dec 25, 2019, 1:33 PM

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I forget the keybind but autowalk is already in

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or well

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a way to do it

tawny kettle Dec 25, 2019, 1:35 PM

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really? please tell me how >_<

blazing charm Dec 25, 2019, 1:37 PM

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@tawny kettle Hold the walk button, continue to hold while activating the steam overlay (Default should be Shift + Tab), turn off overlay while still holding the walk key before turning Overplay back on, then letting go of the walk key and turning off the overlay again.

tawny kettle Dec 25, 2019, 1:37 PM

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I have scleroderma and it's killing me to hold W for so long

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alright, I'll try that. thanks so much

blazing charm Dec 25, 2019, 1:38 PM

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No problem.

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@tawny kettle Also in regards to that Sauropod suggestion, Puertasaurus won't be a thing anymore, since Brachiosaurus is replacing it, and I don't think the posture is gonna change since brachi is meant to closely resemble the one from Jurassic Park.

Scientific Accuracy isn't entirely the biggest priority, plus I don't even think Brachi is supposed to be playable, so the whole eating thing isn't that big of a deal.

lilac swallow Dec 25, 2019, 1:49 PM

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Even then demi Up right(not vertical tho) neck is accurate for some sauropods, including brachi and cama

blazing charm Dec 25, 2019, 1:57 PM

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@quasi stream To be brutally honest, the introduction of Primal Carnage has been a long, and painful endeavour for everyone, and I can't help but feel that shoehorning more of that into the game's title or logo is just going to create more opposition.

quasi stream Dec 25, 2019, 1:59 PM

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Well, to be honest the title doesn't have to do anything with Primal Carnage

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I wasn't referring to it when I put the suggestion

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I just liked the idea of a new title. Primal Carnage and The Isle are 2 different games

blazing charm Dec 25, 2019, 2:00 PM

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"Carnage Comes Home"

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That is literally, the oldest tie to this god forsaken tie-in. That slogan is from 2 years ago for gods sake.

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2 and a half if you count that time it was accidentaliy said out loud.

quasi stream Dec 25, 2019, 2:01 PM

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I wasn't aware of that

blazing charm Dec 25, 2019, 2:01 PM

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Not to mention.

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The end of the trailer, has the Primal Rex roar

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Please don't tell me you thought that roar was something else-

quasi stream Dec 25, 2019, 2:02 PM

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No bro, I know the ties with Primal Carnage, I was just saying the title would be cool, not the story behind it

blazing charm Dec 25, 2019, 2:03 PM

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There's alot of people, like myself that kinda prefer the Isle as it's own thing, I just feel like changing the title would kinda be a bit "in your face" with the whole PC thing.

quasi stream Dec 25, 2019, 2:09 PM

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Alright, I get what you're saying.

agile kiln Dec 25, 2019, 2:39 PM

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Personally I would find it a shame if Brachiosaurus was AI only

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What were some of the reasons Brachi was gonna be ai?

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If the reasons were it being too slow that’s not really a thing

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Sauropods could move at a decent pace

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15 kp/h for walking and 20-30 at full speed

last heath Dec 25, 2019, 2:43 PM

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its huge, clipping through everything or getting stuck on everything, nigh unkillable and able to do some serious damage

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if anything, cama will be the test bed

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cama isnt too big, so its just perfect

agile kiln Dec 25, 2019, 2:44 PM

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We’ll have to see

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Personally I’d love to play the shit out of Brachiosaurus

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They’d be hard to play in survival I reckon

peak wedge Dec 25, 2019, 2:44 PM

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Having it be like a tier 6, so itll take maybe 10-12 hours to grow to full will make it less op

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Like a tier above apex

agile kiln Dec 25, 2019, 2:45 PM

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Its only when you get to near adulthood that you become this monstrously powerful creature

last heath Dec 25, 2019, 2:45 PM

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thing is, once you are adult, now what? you'd need a fucking hyper to kill that thing

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~~or a dude with a sniper~~

agile kiln Dec 25, 2019, 2:45 PM

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I mean, its size would restrict it to more open areas

last heath Dec 25, 2019, 2:45 PM

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large sauros are pretty much on the level of hypers

agile kiln Dec 25, 2019, 2:46 PM

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And hear me out here, what if you make it beneficial for smaller herbivores to hang around sauropods and thus in the more open areas

last heath Dec 25, 2019, 2:47 PM

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thats what cama will be a test for

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if they can make it work, as in: its hard to grow and can be hunted (also fun)
then they might move for larger ones

agile kiln Dec 25, 2019, 2:47 PM

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That would be amazing

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~~oklahoma apatosaurines when?~~

peak wedge Dec 25, 2019, 2:48 PM

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Have the health maybe twice or 1.5 a rexes, super slow, really long growing times, still killable if you got a group, and it would give so much food that it would be a glowing target. Probably itd get killed as a sub since itd still give tons of food and it isnt super buff yet

last heath Dec 25, 2019, 2:49 PM

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why would something so big have 2 times a rexes health?

agile kiln Dec 25, 2019, 2:49 PM

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2 times rex health would make it useless

last heath Dec 25, 2019, 2:49 PM

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it would be useless

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a large animal like that would be hyper levels of powerful

agile kiln Dec 25, 2019, 2:49 PM

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Doesn’t trike have like 1.5 times rex’s health

last heath Dec 25, 2019, 2:50 PM

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I dont think it would work. cama is perfect, but anything bigger would be AI

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at least for now

peak wedge Dec 25, 2019, 2:50 PM

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Well it's a fine balance between so much health and damage its op and so little that its useless

agile kiln Dec 25, 2019, 2:50 PM

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Actually bringing up hypers, that could very well be a good reason TO implement them, something you can stick around to make sure a hyper spotting you isn’t an instant death sentence

peak wedge Dec 25, 2019, 2:51 PM

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It wouldnt match the size but if you need 2 or 3 rexes to kill it its a good fight

wintry cipher Dec 25, 2019, 2:51 PM

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.....hypers already have a purpose tho. Server reset without a reset button.

last heath Dec 25, 2019, 2:51 PM

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hypers are not meant to be balanced

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at least for now

wintry cipher Dec 25, 2019, 2:51 PM

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They will also be very rare

last heath Dec 25, 2019, 2:52 PM

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they are biological reset buttons

wintry cipher Dec 25, 2019, 2:52 PM

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Like, once in a blue moon rare

peak wedge Dec 25, 2019, 2:52 PM

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Hehehe imagine hypo dilo

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Night as bright as day

wintry cipher Dec 25, 2019, 2:52 PM

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You should not have a regular dino in the game with the excuse "oh hypers will hunt it" because then its just another hyper

agile kiln Dec 25, 2019, 2:53 PM

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That’s not what I said, its something that can possibly stand up to them on the herbivore’s side, since iirc herbivores are not getting strains

lilac swallow Dec 25, 2019, 2:53 PM

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Imagine brachi being huntable by smaller things just like rexes are huntable by dilos, i know is hard to imagine

wintry cipher Dec 25, 2019, 2:53 PM

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Nothing can stand up to a hyper. Not even on the carnivore side.

last heath Dec 25, 2019, 2:54 PM

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hypers are not ''carnivore team''

wintry cipher Dec 25, 2019, 2:54 PM

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Again; its a biological reset button

lilac swallow Dec 25, 2019, 2:54 PM

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Carnivores arent even a team in first place

wintry cipher Dec 25, 2019, 2:54 PM

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You're much better off as something small that can hide. As carni and herbi

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If you are so afraid of the one hyper that will show up once in 3 months

last heath Dec 25, 2019, 2:56 PM

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and, if we are honest, in a hyper and brachi fight, if the brachi is balanced to not be unkillable, it will be anihilated, if it can stand up againt a hyper, its absolutely broken

wintry cipher Dec 25, 2019, 2:56 PM

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Cama will serve its role well enough as playable sauropod. The only diff between it and brachi gameplay wise would just be the pain in the ass that is its camera position prob.

valid zephyr Dec 25, 2019, 2:57 PM

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Honestly my worry about hypers isn't really the hyper itself. I worry that even if they are near impossible to get, everyone will still play carni as they want to be one. Making the map pure carnis and very few herbis.

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It's bad enough at the moment, without giving an extra incentive to go carni.

wintry cipher Dec 25, 2019, 2:57 PM

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Thats a fair argument now

agile kiln Dec 25, 2019, 2:57 PM

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Yeah

last heath Dec 25, 2019, 2:58 PM

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solution, give herbis elders that are easier to get

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but not nearly as strong as hypers

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make carnis live difficult, only the best survive

mental sleet Dec 25, 2019, 2:58 PM

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If herbs get elders so should carnivores tbh.

wintry cipher Dec 25, 2019, 2:58 PM

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Well. Do herbis need elders if carni life will be difficult already?

mental sleet Dec 25, 2019, 2:58 PM

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Strains are overrated as an end-game goal.

valid zephyr Dec 25, 2019, 2:59 PM

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It's why i'm meh on the elders idea.

agile kiln Dec 25, 2019, 2:59 PM

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What’s gonna be the way to get magna strains btw? Is it just the same as hypo but slightly easier?

lilac swallow Dec 25, 2019, 2:59 PM

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Herbs get elders, allo cerato sucho and dilo are left without strains nor elders gg

valid zephyr Dec 25, 2019, 2:59 PM

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We know nothing about magnas atm.

last heath Dec 25, 2019, 2:59 PM

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I just want hunts to be hard. I like difficulty dondiSucc

wintry cipher Dec 25, 2019, 2:59 PM

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I can see some Dino's growing slightly bigger with age to show "oh shit this one survived a long time" like 1.2 but no further

valid zephyr Dec 25, 2019, 2:59 PM

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last heath Dec 25, 2019, 3:00 PM

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para elder tho. special ability, becomes shant 2

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dondiTroll

agile kiln Dec 25, 2019, 3:00 PM

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Superadult carnivores and herbivore would imo be more interesting than hypos and such

wintry cipher Dec 25, 2019, 3:00 PM

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Zubu. Play Utah in a legit fashion without assriding like I do. Shit takes hours to kill

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~~it hurts~~

valid zephyr Dec 25, 2019, 3:00 PM

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I've wondered about the idea of hybrid herbis.

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But not sure how popular that idea is.

lilac swallow Dec 25, 2019, 3:00 PM

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Super adult/ Elder are just the new full grown

agile kiln Dec 25, 2019, 3:01 PM

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Inb4 ankyloceratops

valid zephyr Dec 25, 2019, 3:01 PM

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Makes no sense that rex wouldn't get elder too.

wintry cipher Dec 25, 2019, 3:01 PM

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True. If the game is difficult enough what if full adult becomes a big deal?

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RN it isnt

valid zephyr Dec 25, 2019, 3:01 PM

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Tapwing has some amazing JP hybrid dinos as concepts.

agile kiln Dec 25, 2019, 3:01 PM

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Tapwing’s art just rocks

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If I were to pick one hyper I would love having from tapwing’s collection it would be the hyper anky

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That thing is gorgeous

valid zephyr Dec 25, 2019, 3:02 PM

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Having some complex set of goals/objects which then allows two apex herbis to mix would be an interesting strain alternative.

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Aka the ankyloceratops

agile kiln Dec 25, 2019, 3:03 PM

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Personally, I’d dislike that

valid zephyr Dec 25, 2019, 3:03 PM

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Wouldn't be nearly as op as strains, but would off up an interesting incentive to play herbis too.

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I know a lot of people hate the idea.

wintry cipher Dec 25, 2019, 3:04 PM

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Hyper herbs would kill just herbis due to starvation oof

agile kiln Dec 25, 2019, 3:04 PM

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I mean, personally I would make hunting almost 100% focussed on grappling, latching on, pouncing and the like

wintry cipher Dec 25, 2019, 3:04 PM

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And all the new Dino's are herbs besides one i thought

valid zephyr Dec 25, 2019, 3:04 PM

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But herbis arn't getting strains.

Elders just becomes the new adult, and makes no sense why strain dinos can't grow to elder too.

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Hybrids is just another potential idea.

agile kiln Dec 25, 2019, 3:04 PM

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And give the herbis things that hamper that

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Like, you cant grab a trike on the neck

wintry cipher Dec 25, 2019, 3:05 PM

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....unless you hit it at the right angle

agile kiln Dec 25, 2019, 3:05 PM

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Latching onto stego’s side puts you in range of its tail

wintry cipher Dec 25, 2019, 3:05 PM

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Exactly

agile kiln Dec 25, 2019, 3:05 PM

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Exactly keith

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Make it skill based

wintry cipher Dec 25, 2019, 3:05 PM

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Herbs will have stuff to counter. Thats a given

agile kiln Dec 25, 2019, 3:06 PM

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So if trike turns its head to look at your friend, you might get an opportunity to grab its neck

wintry cipher Dec 25, 2019, 3:06 PM

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~~just let me maul maias for a bit of payback with pounce and we good~~

valid zephyr Dec 25, 2019, 3:06 PM

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It's not countering the carnis/strains which is the issue. It's that everyone and their mother will leap to play carni just for the tiny chance they will reach hyper.

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Leaving like 5 people on herbi and 70 people on carni.

wintry cipher Dec 25, 2019, 3:06 PM

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What if herbs get a lot of immunities vs things like poisons and other such things?

agile kiln Dec 25, 2019, 3:07 PM

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Hmm

wintry cipher Dec 25, 2019, 3:07 PM

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And carnis have to eat a certain herbi to get a temp buff against that

agile kiln Dec 25, 2019, 3:07 PM

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I would honestly have herbis just have baseline higher stats than carnivores

lilac swallow Dec 25, 2019, 3:08 PM

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No, no better stats for any faction just because "lets give x faction better stats"

wintry cipher Dec 25, 2019, 3:08 PM

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That isnt a reason to play herb

agile kiln Dec 25, 2019, 3:08 PM

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Fair point

wintry cipher Dec 25, 2019, 3:08 PM

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Herbs could be made easier to play as in general. Combat wise

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Galli for example focuses on running and escaping very well

lilac swallow Dec 25, 2019, 3:09 PM

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Or, or, herbis just survive easier as their food is everywhere and dont run away

burnt obsidian Dec 25, 2019, 3:09 PM

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@peak wedge Maybe they could have one eye open when they sleep as some animals do

wintry cipher Dec 25, 2019, 3:09 PM

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Trike is focused on punishing close combat

valid zephyr Dec 25, 2019, 3:09 PM

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I'd rather herbi stats were not better than carnis, as that just encourages toxic KoS deathherds.

wintry cipher Dec 25, 2019, 3:09 PM

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^ maia

lilac swallow Dec 25, 2019, 3:10 PM

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Just balance animals ignoring their diet

valid zephyr Dec 25, 2019, 3:10 PM

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Imo herbis should be able to defend themselves, but not be able to use those abilities to hunt shit down.

Aka the reason I want para/maia to have nerfed front attacks and have a back kick instead.

wintry cipher Dec 25, 2019, 3:11 PM

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You want to encourage interaction with other Dino's for beneficial purposes. That makes gameplay interesting

valid zephyr Dec 25, 2019, 3:11 PM

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Means they can flee while fighting, but can't hit forward very hard.

wintry cipher Dec 25, 2019, 3:11 PM

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Yes

valid zephyr Dec 25, 2019, 3:11 PM

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Trike is fine with a forward attack just cause it's so slow. If a trike runs you down it's 100% your own fault.

lilac swallow Dec 25, 2019, 3:11 PM

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I like the idea of herbis being either stronger but slower than carnis (aka trike and stego) while others are weaker but faster than carnis (aka galli)
Carnis being in the middle

valid zephyr Dec 25, 2019, 3:12 PM

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Stego is still controversial. Some people want it mid tier matching allo, some people want it full large tier and matching trike.

lilac swallow Dec 25, 2019, 3:12 PM

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Generaly taking of course

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Stego midtier is just a bunch of allo fanboys crying

wintry cipher Dec 25, 2019, 3:12 PM

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It will probably be large tier with a vulnerable head.

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So if Allo grapples that

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The stego is done

valid zephyr Dec 25, 2019, 3:13 PM

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Stego mid tier would just be a walking borger for any apex which sees it.

wintry cipher Dec 25, 2019, 3:13 PM

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Mhm

valid zephyr Dec 25, 2019, 3:14 PM

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I also think the hybrids could work as we all know how much the devs love JP, and hybrid herbis are part of the JP lore.

wintry cipher Dec 25, 2019, 3:15 PM

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I'm very tentative an that one as yes while they love JP i don't think that would be a good idea for this game mostly due to copyright and other things. I enjoy seeing the more unique stuff the devs offer

valid zephyr Dec 25, 2019, 3:17 PM

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I'm just looking for something (anything really) which could offer an alternate long term alternate goal.

One that could draw as many people as the potential to play as a massive rex kaiju and wipe the entire map like hypers are.

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Official servers are already 50% rex. Giving people more incentive to play it isn't going to help things.

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Even a 1% chance to get to this from adult rex is going to make people flock to it.

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peak wedge Dec 25, 2019, 3:21 PM

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@burnt obsidian Yeah, good idea

blazing charm Dec 25, 2019, 3:32 PM

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@haughty cliff I do believe it was mentioned that the footstep sounds are being revised.

haughty cliff Dec 25, 2019, 3:33 PM

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That would be sweet, I hope so thanks!

blazing charm Dec 25, 2019, 3:33 PM

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If anything you could take the recent preview as some indication, since the footsteps weren't deafingly loud.

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But, time will tell I suppose.

fathom harness Dec 25, 2019, 3:42 PM

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@valid zephyr I agree with your stance on herbivores. Although they shouldn't be able to hunt down other dinosaurs, they also shouldn't be walking meat snacks. Making them either fast with rear attacks or slow with frontal attacks makes sense. And yeah, if Stego is made a slow mid tier it will literally be an easy meal for apex carnivores because it won't be able to run away or fight back.

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Not to mention that most servers have large amounts of carnivore players, predominately because of the lackluster herbivore gameplay. Herbivores are usually fun because of herds, but when there aren't other herbivores around to herd with it becomes sort of meaningless gameplay.

patent spade Dec 25, 2019, 5:29 PM

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@fathom harness not to mention many herbivores are worthless when they are solo

valid zephyr Dec 25, 2019, 5:46 PM

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I mean 1v1 most herbis are fine stat wise at the moment.

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Trouble is it's always 1 herbi vs an entire pack of carnis.

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Cause no one plays them.

last heath Dec 25, 2019, 5:46 PM

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exept trike vs rex 1v1 dondiSucc

valid zephyr Dec 25, 2019, 5:47 PM

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If the rex doesn't get bb on the first bite the trike can win. Stomp on the first attack, walk turn around, and assride it spamming gore.

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If it gets bb first bite then it's won.

last heath Dec 25, 2019, 5:48 PM

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sadly it seems that if the rex just stays still and bites it nonstop the trike dies

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I've tested it, was hella sad. I had just killed a rex that tried hit and run on death match

valid zephyr Dec 25, 2019, 5:48 PM

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Hopefully with locational, trike will have an advantage in a pure facetank.

last heath Dec 25, 2019, 5:49 PM

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yeah, nothing should be able to go face tank with a trike and win

valid zephyr Dec 25, 2019, 5:49 PM

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cama maybe.

night mountain Dec 25, 2019, 5:50 PM

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Brachi too

last heath Dec 25, 2019, 5:50 PM

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cama is a god that is not to be even questioned

night mountain Dec 25, 2019, 5:50 PM

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But agreed otherwise

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Also

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Shant :^)

valid zephyr Dec 25, 2019, 5:51 PM

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Brachi probs won't be playable.

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Cama is highly likley.

brittle fossil Dec 25, 2019, 5:54 PM

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I have killed camas as a rex, ez.

last heath Dec 25, 2019, 5:55 PM

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rex probably should focus on things it can kill in under 30 seconds at most, at least in my opinion. Giga would be the bastard that does long and slow hunts, fucking up larger prey, like cama

paper oriole Dec 25, 2019, 6:56 PM

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"Just a channel where we can talk" sooo offtopic?

last heath Dec 25, 2019, 7:19 PM

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@jolly finch Inglês apenas, e adiciona substância nessa suggestão, um porque, digamos assim.

jolly finch Dec 25, 2019, 7:35 PM

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Blz

last heath Dec 25, 2019, 9:39 PM

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@lone kite what do you mean?

empty dove Dec 25, 2019, 9:41 PM

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quite sure there's already resting 3 call animations

lilac swallow Dec 25, 2019, 9:42 PM

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There exist already

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Is just anky being hella outdated

plain viper Dec 25, 2019, 10:24 PM

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hi all, any suggestions on cheap USB PC Wired Controller

indigo sun Dec 25, 2019, 10:26 PM

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wrong channel to ask about that

plain viper Dec 25, 2019, 10:26 PM

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what channel would you recommend

indigo sun Dec 25, 2019, 10:29 PM

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#401470471750811669 . This channel is for discussing suggestions

barren zephyr Dec 25, 2019, 11:04 PM

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@lone kite considering that it will be a very long time until elders will even be considered to be implemented you know with the recode and everything, it's probably something that would be decided on :D

valid zephyr Dec 26, 2019, 12:15 AM

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@night mountain I expanded on your suggestion.

last heath Dec 26, 2019, 12:54 AM

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@supple pivot Here for discussing suggestions, and yes, it is, and I am ~~shamelessly stealing~~ inspiring myself on it

night mountain Dec 26, 2019, 1:04 AM

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Have them get bedsores

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Real talk tho I like it

mellow cove Dec 26, 2019, 1:25 AM

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Dondi

indigo sun Dec 26, 2019, 1:27 AM

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What?

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Whats that got to do with anythingM

last heath Dec 26, 2019, 1:40 AM

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@high hemlock it says there that paralyzis is permanent

high hemlock Dec 26, 2019, 1:40 AM

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ohh

rigid axle Dec 26, 2019, 2:31 AM

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The paralysis idea is cool, but there's no incentive to keep playing if you're the one paralyzed. Everyone would just hit respawn and the troodon loses the advantages from having a paralyzed prey item. Might be better with a chance that they'll recover from it, so some players will actually stay in the hopes that they'll be able to keep their dino.

last heath Dec 26, 2019, 2:55 AM

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well, yeah, the idea is that you are effectively dead. you could stay for the ''oh god wtf'' factor, but in reality its over, you can stay just because.

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maybe they could recover, but the idea is that paralizing a target is hard and time consuming, taking longer than simply killing it, so allowing it to just get up and walk away kind of defeats the purpose

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idk, I see the point

torpid wedge Dec 26, 2019, 3:10 AM

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i'd just altf4 if there's no way to recover tbh

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had enough of sitting doing nothing in this game, i agree w sparrow

last heath Dec 26, 2019, 3:12 AM

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Or you respawn? Cuz you lost the fight and "died"

copper gorge Dec 26, 2019, 3:13 AM

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or maybe the poison kills you and you respawn

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you go into a paralisis and die?

last heath Dec 26, 2019, 3:13 AM

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It's there for flair. Cuz Jurassic park troodon is cool

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Also, the ideia is that the target isnt dead, the eggs would die If the body rotted

copper gorge Dec 26, 2019, 3:14 AM

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I don't see how waiting for nothing could be fun. Paralysis seems like such an unfun idea

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besides, I don't think anyone will be fazed by watching your dinosaur be eaten. We already hear or sometimes see our characters be eaten once we've been hunted

pulsar orchid Dec 26, 2019, 3:15 AM

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it could be fun for Youtubers to stream though

last heath Dec 26, 2019, 3:15 AM

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It's the same as dying, Just respawn

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It's there as a choice

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Not obligatory

copper gorge Dec 26, 2019, 3:16 AM

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but I'm talking about the waiting time. If you have no choice but to lie down and wait for death... then might as well just leave the game

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best if you can heal paralysis after a minute

last heath Dec 26, 2019, 3:17 AM

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What about the eggs tho?

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Paralysis is death with a twist

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You can respawn, the body stays as AI

copper gorge Dec 26, 2019, 3:18 AM

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sure then...

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I just think poison should be something that temporary disables the victim for a short period of time

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Like hinder vision, or make you bleed longer

last heath Dec 26, 2019, 3:20 AM

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Thats already there. It makes you weaker, easier to kill

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Also added that If you respawn the body becomes AI

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Ah @copper gorge, i think i understood what you where saying, changed It so sitting down stops spread of venom

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Completely forgot about that, my bad

still temple Dec 26, 2019, 5:06 AM

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@stiff nova the Papo Acro does not have good proportions

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But that being said, current Acro doesn’t look too great as well

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Could gladly see some changes to him, iirc Jake expressed interest in working on him?

rigid axle Dec 26, 2019, 5:39 AM

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ai body after respawning makes it much better imo. that way the player can leave but the troodon family still gets the benefits of having a "live" host there, until it dies for other reasons

narrow ingot Dec 26, 2019, 7:16 AM

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Ohh I get the concept now, so basically for example, if im a Diablo and I get bit by a pack of troodons, and depending where i got bit i experience the symptoms that was listed, now if it gets worse and I don't sit down, then the paralysis state takes over eventually then im basically just on the ground, but still have the ability to see whats happening to sum certain extent (in which any damage could be done to my body as Im in this stage..so basically dying)...then when I'm tired of watching just respawn..meanwhile there making my body into a nest. (Im here for it 🙌)

jolly finch Dec 26, 2019, 7:18 AM

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👍

paper oriole Dec 26, 2019, 7:49 AM

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Bronto tail attack should slap small and lower mid tiers into orbit and flay skin off large tiers like a whip too

ashen elm Dec 26, 2019, 7:52 AM

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lol that'd a funny execute. If T-Rex can swallow things whole, sauropods should be able to launch smols like projectiles with their tails haha.

Oh! I didn't bring this up in my suggestion but I was pretty happy to see collision working so well on tails as shown in Dondi's corpse dragging tests with the Utahs. I can't find the clip, but at one point the Utah's tail bends to avoid clipping into the slope.

Clipping should be less of an issue now for longer dinosaurs. dondiYay

languid crown Dec 26, 2019, 8:18 AM

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is brontosaurus an actual dinosaur now? in 2015 some guys made a proposal that it is, cant find anything confirming it was accepted as a separate species

ashen elm Dec 26, 2019, 8:29 AM

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You mean besides the original paper establishing it as a separate genus? Not exactly, but there has not been any rebuttals stating it isn't either. As far as I know it's valid and most prominent paleo-figures (Mark Witton, Mike Taylor, Darren Naish, etc...) seem to accept it. There's even a whole paleo-meme named after it called Bronto Smash which sprung up a short time after it was announced.

https://svpow.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/apatosaurinae_sp_scene.jpg

Though I care less about the name than the dinosaur itself. Given Troodon, I don't think name validity matter much to the team anyway. Only reason I'm not suggesting Apato instead is because it tends to be bigger than Bronto, which would be harder to balance.

plush meadow Dec 26, 2019, 10:31 AM

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@ashen elm pretty sure the brontosaurus was a mash up of other dinosaur bones, not its own species, but correct me if I'm wrong

ashen elm Dec 26, 2019, 10:34 AM

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@plush meadow It had mistakenly had Cama's head for awhile, since they did not have the skull, but was renamed Apatosaurus for different reasons.

It was re-established as it's own genus about five years ago though. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-brontosaurus-is-back1/

Scientific American

The Brontosaurus Is Back

Decades after scientists decided that the famed dinosaur never actually existed, new research says the opposite

plush meadow Dec 26, 2019, 10:34 AM

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ah

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~thanks

ashen elm Dec 26, 2019, 10:35 AM

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No problem paleontology changes a lot and unless you are super on top of it, it can be hard to keep up with.

agile kiln Dec 26, 2019, 11:45 AM

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a study published in 2015 found A. excelsus, formerly known as Brontosaurus to be distinct enough from other species of apatosaurus to be labeled its own genus. thus Brontosaurus excelsus was revived as valid

last heath Dec 26, 2019, 1:14 PM

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@opal vigil hadros are fully terrestrial as far as i know.
Allos are confirmed to get a grapple
Utahs will get a pounce and probably use their claw

opal vigil Dec 26, 2019, 1:46 PM

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@last heath cheers, yeah not aquatic but like most dinos of today with duck bills...eating plants that grow near or in water. They have always being depicted as such.

languid crown Dec 26, 2019, 3:58 PM

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@tulip dock dondi said in his latest stream that multiple animals wouldnt be able to drag the same corpse at the same time

finite perch Dec 26, 2019, 4:54 PM

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due to server constraints, not cuz 'i dont wanna!'

indigo sun Dec 26, 2019, 6:06 PM

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@icy tangle joke suggestions arent allowed if you weren't aware. But if thats not a joke, then fuckin gross

icy tangle Dec 26, 2019, 6:08 PM

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It's not a joke, I meant it. And what?! Dinos did poop and fart. So why not? Don't @ Me. @indigo sun

indigo sun Dec 26, 2019, 6:09 PM

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It's gross and would make this game a joke and no one would take it seriously. There's no actual reason to add it.

icy tangle Dec 26, 2019, 6:09 PM

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Do you poop and fart ?

indigo sun Dec 26, 2019, 6:10 PM

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No i'm clearly a robot with no biological function

icy tangle Dec 26, 2019, 6:10 PM

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I knew it. No human bein would say it will be gross.

last heath Dec 26, 2019, 6:10 PM

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@icy tangle give a reason to waste time and money to add that

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mechanics

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interactions

indigo sun Dec 26, 2019, 6:10 PM

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Again though, no one would take this game seriously if they added that and I would hate to make poor Richard do that.

last heath Dec 26, 2019, 6:10 PM

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substance, if you will

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true that, poor richard

indigo sun Dec 26, 2019, 6:11 PM

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Don't make richard's life hell

barren zephyr Dec 26, 2019, 6:11 PM

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PepePopcorn

icy tangle Dec 26, 2019, 6:11 PM

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This game isnt suppose to be as real as it gets ? No more reason.

indigo sun Dec 26, 2019, 6:11 PM

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What?

last heath Dec 26, 2019, 6:11 PM

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than its wasted money

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no reason to add

indigo sun Dec 26, 2019, 6:11 PM

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I'm sorry could you explain your first sentence a bit i didnt quite understand what you meant

icy tangle Dec 26, 2019, 6:11 PM

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Dondi said they have enough money now. So no waste if it is to be a real thing

last heath Dec 26, 2019, 6:12 PM

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but why?!

icy tangle Dec 26, 2019, 6:12 PM

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Because it's real ?

indigo sun Dec 26, 2019, 6:12 PM

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It'd be a waste for it to be done when money could go towards other things

last heath Dec 26, 2019, 6:12 PM

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no animal starves in under 2 hours

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buts its a game

indigo sun Dec 26, 2019, 6:12 PM

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This game isnt going for realism woohoo no point in that then

last heath Dec 26, 2019, 6:12 PM

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fun>realism

indigo sun Dec 26, 2019, 6:12 PM

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We don't need to add stuff like that for fart fetishists to get off to

brittle fossil Dec 26, 2019, 6:14 PM

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I'd honestly quit if The isle adds that to be funny, even if its realistic.

indigo sun Dec 26, 2019, 6:15 PM

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Please stop with the shit suggestions oh my god

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@azure laurel shitting would only help predators track you more. It's easier to smell and track shit than the remnants of skin and oils from a footprint. Also please get your fuckin scat fetish out of here, this is a game that wants to be taken seriously. Literally no one would take that seriously if they added it.

brittle fossil Dec 26, 2019, 6:17 PM

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Mhm

lilac swallow Dec 26, 2019, 6:17 PM

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Even full realism games like saurian dont plan on having shit stop this

indigo sun Dec 26, 2019, 6:18 PM

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Honestly

azure laurel Dec 26, 2019, 6:18 PM

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Well yes its easier to smell so it can be used as distraction

indigo sun Dec 26, 2019, 6:18 PM

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It wouldnt be a distraction

barren zephyr Dec 26, 2019, 6:18 PM

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PepePopcorn

azure laurel Dec 26, 2019, 6:18 PM

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How do you know

indigo sun Dec 26, 2019, 6:18 PM

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It would be "oh something was here and look there's footprints leading to it!"

azure laurel Dec 26, 2019, 6:18 PM

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People are smart enough to use it to their advantage

indigo sun Dec 26, 2019, 6:19 PM

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The only distraction would be people actually throwing up on their keyboards

brittle fossil Dec 26, 2019, 6:19 PM

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It's useless

azure laurel Dec 26, 2019, 6:19 PM

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I mean if the other guy is puking on his keyboard, its a win for you

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You still got rid of them

brittle fossil Dec 26, 2019, 6:19 PM

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Plus the scent will be orbs

indigo sun Dec 26, 2019, 6:20 PM

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Someone puking is not a valid reason to waste time on shit, the animations and modelling for shitting, or anything else

lilac swallow Dec 26, 2019, 6:20 PM

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We seriously need a rule against shit and mating suggestions

indigo sun Dec 26, 2019, 6:20 PM

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I thought there was a rule at some point

brittle fossil Dec 26, 2019, 6:20 PM

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Make a suggestion about it then Dragon

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If there isnt a rule about it

indigo sun Dec 26, 2019, 6:21 PM

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"Anything that can be very obviously used for fetishists to get off, such as scat, mating animations, and piss, are not allowed to be suggested"

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I want that as a rule

night mountain Dec 26, 2019, 6:21 PM

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I legitimately want a poop button for flying species

indigo sun Dec 26, 2019, 6:22 PM

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I really need this to be a fuckinrule

lilac swallow Dec 26, 2019, 6:22 PM

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You are you, doesnt count

indigo sun Dec 26, 2019, 6:22 PM

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Tentacle is the exception

azure laurel Dec 26, 2019, 6:23 PM

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But wouldnt that block off useful suggestions that could be connected to fetishes then?

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Theres fetish for everything

waxen elk Dec 26, 2019, 6:23 PM

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please delete this suggestion

lilac swallow Dec 26, 2019, 6:24 PM

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The rule should be more specific:" shit, pee and mating suggestions not allowed"

indigo sun Dec 26, 2019, 6:24 PM

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Theres 3 things that should never be suggestions
Piss, shit, and fucking

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Those things should be completelt off limits

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I dont give a fuck about anything else

wise warren Dec 26, 2019, 6:24 PM

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We dont need poop, we dont need farting, and we dont need mating animations. Its a waste of money and would do nothing helpful ingame other than be funny and ""Realistic""

indigo sun Dec 26, 2019, 6:25 PM

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Luckily this game is in no way trying to be realistic but if people who jack off to a dino shitting really want that, they can mod it in themselves and not waste the devs' time

icy tangle Dec 26, 2019, 6:25 PM

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Imagine tall riding an Rex, and he farts at your face.. 😄

indigo sun Dec 26, 2019, 6:26 PM

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You make me want to throw myself out of my window

wise warren Dec 26, 2019, 6:26 PM

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Or the rex could just turn around and we wont have to have farting

icy tangle Dec 26, 2019, 6:26 PM

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No dont do it! Who is gonna talk on this channel anymore ?

rare axle Dec 26, 2019, 6:26 PM

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You do realise these are ironic suggestions right?

lilac swallow Dec 26, 2019, 6:26 PM

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No

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They sadly arent ironic most of the time

wise warren Dec 26, 2019, 6:26 PM

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It doesnt seem like they are

indigo sun Dec 26, 2019, 6:26 PM

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If theyre ironic or jokes then theyre actually against the rules already

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Soo

lilac swallow Dec 26, 2019, 6:26 PM

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And even if It was ironic is not needed

indigo sun Dec 26, 2019, 6:27 PM

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Better not be ironic

rare axle Dec 26, 2019, 6:27 PM

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You guys are bad with irony

night mountain Dec 26, 2019, 6:27 PM

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The funniest part is we’re actually gonna get this stuff once devkit is out

civic carbon Dec 26, 2019, 6:27 PM

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these two are ironic lmfao

icy tangle Dec 26, 2019, 6:27 PM

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I would like to see Nines face when it does come out.

rare axle Dec 26, 2019, 6:27 PM

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Yeah but some ppl always dive in the trolls

indigo sun Dec 26, 2019, 6:27 PM

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Ironic suggestions arent allowed though

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So yknow

last heath Dec 26, 2019, 6:27 PM

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we all just ignored the stego guy in the middle

barren zephyr Dec 26, 2019, 6:27 PM

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Idk you never know in this community lmao

indigo sun Dec 26, 2019, 6:28 PM

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If theyre suggested and they arent serious suggestions then theyre breaking the rules

barren zephyr Dec 26, 2019, 6:28 PM

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They could be serious af

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Lmao

rare axle Dec 26, 2019, 6:28 PM

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Well yeah they are

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Can you prove they are trolling tho

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Thats the point

indigo sun Dec 26, 2019, 6:28 PM

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I had a serious rock suggestion that was taken down but these "ironic" suggestions get to stay up?

icy tangle Dec 26, 2019, 6:28 PM

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Are you an admin right now Nines ? To judge who is breaking rules who is not ? Please stay at your place!

lilac swallow Dec 26, 2019, 6:28 PM

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If they arent ironic they are gross
If they are ironic they are just shitposting in a serious channel

barren zephyr Dec 26, 2019, 6:28 PM

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True gab

last heath Dec 26, 2019, 6:28 PM

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''shitposting''
hehe

barren zephyr Dec 26, 2019, 6:29 PM

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Lmao

last heath Dec 26, 2019, 6:29 PM

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are mods asleep today?

rare axle Dec 26, 2019, 6:29 PM

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That's just the point legendary

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Cannot prove they're shitposting

lilac swallow Dec 26, 2019, 6:29 PM

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So why even allow them?

night mountain Dec 26, 2019, 6:29 PM

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Poops not inherently a bad thing but we don’t need it like hd and lovingly animated

rare axle Dec 26, 2019, 6:29 PM

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They have fun this way

night mountain Dec 26, 2019, 6:29 PM

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Legit want a poop button for pela and the pterosaurs

last heath Dec 26, 2019, 6:29 PM

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tentacle, no. youll die again

indigo sun Dec 26, 2019, 6:29 PM

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Hence my suggestion for a rule against these types of suggestions

wise warren Dec 26, 2019, 6:29 PM

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If its just ironic then it should be deleted. Joke suggestions arent allowed iirc

lilac swallow Dec 26, 2019, 6:29 PM

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They can have their fun somewhere else not in the fucking suggestion channel

rare axle Dec 26, 2019, 6:30 PM

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Well go stop them

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SchubertWalk

indigo sun Dec 26, 2019, 6:30 PM

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They can go jack off to shit in some other game

azure laurel Dec 26, 2019, 6:30 PM

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But like why make rule against legitimate suggestions

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thats just censoring the community

rare axle Dec 26, 2019, 6:30 PM

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PelaLUL

indigo sun Dec 26, 2019, 6:30 PM

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oh no! The horror of censoring that

safe galleon Dec 26, 2019, 6:30 PM

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Cus they’re shit suggestions adding nothing useful

last heath Dec 26, 2019, 6:31 PM

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shit suggestions

wise warren Dec 26, 2019, 6:31 PM

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Because its disgusting, and you can get your poop and farting for your dinos with mods instead of wasting developer time

safe galleon Dec 26, 2019, 6:31 PM

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Hehe

azure laurel Dec 26, 2019, 6:31 PM

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But how do you know shit wont be useful

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am sure people would find a way to use it to their advantage

last heath Dec 26, 2019, 6:31 PM

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ok, I guess we aint going anywhere. wake up mods and lets move on

wise warren Dec 26, 2019, 6:31 PM

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Explain how it will be useful

barren zephyr Dec 26, 2019, 6:31 PM

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I Thought there was a cockroach on my phone when i looked at ur pfp nines

civic carbon Dec 26, 2019, 6:31 PM

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like any suggestions nowadays add anything gmpepe

indigo sun Dec 26, 2019, 6:31 PM

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Hey man you can ask dondi himself to add shit and see what he says about it

night mountain Dec 26, 2019, 6:31 PM

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It wouldn’t be awful from a tracking perspective to tell you what hangs out there

indigo sun Dec 26, 2019, 6:31 PM

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Wouldnt reccomend it though

safe galleon Dec 26, 2019, 6:32 PM

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Can you come up with a use for it?

last heath Dec 26, 2019, 6:32 PM

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''I get it, you want shit, piss and fucking''
-Dondi, some other time

lilac swallow Dec 26, 2019, 6:32 PM

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If is a suggestion about something devs are against to add they dont need to exist, like i could suggest to add Jedis to the game but devs would yeet that suggestion because they know they dont want it

wise warren Dec 26, 2019, 6:32 PM

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Explain how shit will be a usefull mechanic

icy tangle Dec 26, 2019, 6:32 PM

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So know u become dondi's best friend ? Nines ?

indigo sun Dec 26, 2019, 6:32 PM

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I never said i was

icy tangle Dec 26, 2019, 6:32 PM

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U know so much

indigo sun Dec 26, 2019, 6:32 PM

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I just said you could ask him but i didnt reccomend doing so

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Never said i knew anything

safe galleon Dec 26, 2019, 6:32 PM

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Atleast nines didn’t suggest farting

brittle fossil Dec 26, 2019, 6:32 PM

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Can this be dropped? Ain't getting anywhere

barren zephyr Dec 26, 2019, 6:33 PM

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Vigorous debate is good for developing ideas

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Amiirite

last heath Dec 26, 2019, 6:33 PM

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we still forgot about the poor stego guy dondiSucc

icy tangle Dec 26, 2019, 6:33 PM

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Yeah no problem, i just suggested to make things real.

indigo sun Dec 26, 2019, 6:33 PM

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Doesnt need to be real though

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This game isnt trying to be real

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In fact that's why suggestions for "realism" have a lower chance of being added

lilac swallow Dec 26, 2019, 6:34 PM

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This is not a fucking documentary, and not even saurian the hyper realistic Dino Game has shit

wise warren Dec 26, 2019, 6:34 PM

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I just want to see someone give me a reason why shit or farts could possibly be a useful mechanic

indigo sun Dec 26, 2019, 6:34 PM

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Its a science fiction dinosaur horror game

night mountain Dec 26, 2019, 6:34 PM

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Tracking

indigo sun Dec 26, 2019, 6:34 PM

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Thats the thing Aleey, theres no actual reason

safe galleon Dec 26, 2019, 6:34 PM

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Wait, why isn’t farting in cs go? It’s something humans do so it should definitely be added!

indigo sun Dec 26, 2019, 6:34 PM

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Footprints and other things do just fine

wise warren Dec 26, 2019, 6:34 PM

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But they said it would be optional, so why would you ever do it if its making it easier to track you?

lilac swallow Dec 26, 2019, 6:35 PM

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The only Game with shit i know is fucking insaniquarium and in that Game It was useful because shit was literally money dondiLUL

barren zephyr Dec 26, 2019, 6:36 PM

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Saurian has cloacas in their models and mating is planned

night mountain Dec 26, 2019, 6:36 PM

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To be fair, planet zoo has poop animations and it’s not weird

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Not that we need it

indigo sun Dec 26, 2019, 6:37 PM

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Planet zoo is also about cleaning and maintaining animal enclosures and stuff

lilac swallow Dec 26, 2019, 6:37 PM

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Planet zoo shit has a purpose and also the shit isnt close to the camera

safe galleon Dec 26, 2019, 6:38 PM

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Rex eats bad food
Rex gets explosive diarrhea
Rex uses explosive diarrhea against assriding utahs

rare axle Dec 26, 2019, 6:38 PM

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You guys are debating so much over a troll in a unironic way, it's feeding at a whole new level

indigo sun Dec 26, 2019, 6:38 PM

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Humans make me want to swallow a whole bottle of excedrin

brittle fossil Dec 26, 2019, 6:39 PM

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Mm

azure laurel Dec 26, 2019, 6:40 PM

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How is it exactly troll tho Gab?

feral wedge Dec 26, 2019, 6:46 PM

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Y’all need to stay away from inappropriate suggestions. Period. Don’t let me see it again.

quasi stream Dec 26, 2019, 7:55 PM

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@tulip dock

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I read your suggestion of 2 carnivores dragging on the same body for contesting it

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As Dondi said, making 2 or more dinosaurs drag one body will be VERY difficult to make and it will cause a lot of lag.

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The server would go bananas

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That was 1.

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And 2. Dinosaurs are not puppies. When they contest, they either harm the other to the point where it can't hunt anymore or even kill the opponent. That would give him more food plus the body it contested

slow stream Dec 26, 2019, 8:02 PM

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but the gore... :c

barren zephyr Dec 26, 2019, 8:37 PM

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another carno stealing my body?

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Ill make sure he suffers

gaunt needle Dec 26, 2019, 9:29 PM

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@thorny lynx I don't think either the Dilo or Troodon were actually venomous

slow stream Dec 26, 2019, 9:29 PM

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this game isn't realistic

simple maple Dec 26, 2019, 9:29 PM

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@thorny lynx Pretty sure the Dilo's venom delivery as it is now is based on lizard bites such as Komodo Dragons or Gila Monsters. i.e. the venomous compounds come from modified saliva glands rather than a large venom gland like a pit viper. So the dilo model is probably fine as is.

thorny lynx Dec 26, 2019, 9:30 PM

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True.

slow stream Dec 26, 2019, 9:30 PM

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what about troodons

thorny lynx Dec 26, 2019, 9:30 PM

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However, do you believe venom should be a depleted resource for dinosaurs or no? I believe so.

slow stream Dec 26, 2019, 9:30 PM

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yeh

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venom CAN be used for griefing, but if it's depletable then the problems just gone

thorny lynx Dec 26, 2019, 9:31 PM

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A single troodon should not be able to sit there and stack on enough venom to topple down a rex. A small creature simply cannot produce that much venom.

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I mean smaller creatures with concentrated venom, yeah, but

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The larger the creature with venom, the slower the toxin kills

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Rule of thumb.

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Botulinum toxin, wandering spider, snek...

agile kiln Dec 26, 2019, 9:32 PM

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maybe make troodon have to chew the venom into its target like some snakes,

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as in only really affects if you're latched on

thorny lynx Dec 26, 2019, 9:33 PM

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Hm, I rather do not care about the delivery method, but more of whether the venom is depletable.

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Troodon literally weighs around 50kg. It has no business even being around a t rex.

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Or anything larger than a ton. It's simply too much for a pack of troodons to eat.

agile kiln Dec 26, 2019, 9:34 PM

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if you want a troodontid doing that

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use Latenivenatrix

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📎 Latenivenatrix.png

thorny lynx Dec 26, 2019, 9:35 PM

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It annoys me there are people here that thing a creature that weighs less than 200 pounds should be able to kill a t rex. It's just not possible.

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If a rex is wounded and sick and dying, yeah. A healthy one, no.

agile kiln Dec 26, 2019, 9:35 PM

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thing is

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the fact it has an equalizer is a concerning thing

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venom is tricky

thorny lynx Dec 26, 2019, 9:36 PM

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Larger dinosaurs should be more resistant to venom, period.

agile kiln Dec 26, 2019, 9:36 PM

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I agree

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but where do you put the cap

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lets say 50 KG

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a dryo is like 200

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would that be ok?

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where do you put the cap for venom effectiveness

thorny lynx Dec 26, 2019, 9:36 PM

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Anything over a ton should only have minimal effects

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From one bite

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Like "fuck I feel kinda like shit" but not "well time to lay down and die"

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A troodon bites a t rex, rex probably won't even feel it.

agile kiln Dec 26, 2019, 9:37 PM

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hmm

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what about this

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venom doesn't really affect movement

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it affects control

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fucking with player control over the dinosaur would be something that would make venom feel more realistic

thorny lynx Dec 26, 2019, 9:38 PM

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Venom should drain stamina

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I believe

agile kiln Dec 26, 2019, 9:39 PM

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I thought something like sluggish controls

thorny lynx Dec 26, 2019, 9:39 PM

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Well, Troodon venom slows you down, since they hunt fast and small creatures

agile kiln Dec 26, 2019, 9:39 PM

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kinda like artificial sticky keys

thorny lynx Dec 26, 2019, 9:40 PM

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Dilo venom reduces natural bleed resistance, I believe.

agile kiln Dec 26, 2019, 9:40 PM

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yeah

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its more of an antiseptic bite

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like vampire bats

thorny lynx Dec 26, 2019, 9:40 PM

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You mean anticoagulant, which prevents clotting.

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Antiseptic means it doesn't allow bacteria to seep into the wound

agile kiln Dec 26, 2019, 9:41 PM

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yeah that

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mixed the two up

thorny lynx Dec 26, 2019, 9:41 PM

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Venom sometimes kills by coagulating the blood and forming blood clots

agile kiln Dec 26, 2019, 9:42 PM

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that's one type

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there's also venom that destroys muscle tissue

thorny lynx Dec 26, 2019, 9:42 PM

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Or it just disrupts the heart rhythm

agile kiln Dec 26, 2019, 9:42 PM

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depends which type you want, the coagulating venom would work with slowing down, destroying muscle fibers would make controlling your dinosaur harder

thorny lynx Dec 26, 2019, 9:43 PM

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Or travels to the brain and inhibits neuron receptors from firing.

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Paralysis isn't fun.

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Coagulating venom would basically drop you dead from a heart attack.

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A paralyzing venom would be more practical for smaller and faster creatures, as sneks do for rats. One bite and the rat is down within a few seconds.

vestal rune Dec 26, 2019, 9:45 PM

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what if they make troodon like allo sized?

agile kiln Dec 26, 2019, 9:45 PM

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that would be a small brain moment

thorny lynx Dec 26, 2019, 9:45 PM

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Dondi said dinosaurs would be tbeir accurate sizes.

vestal rune Dec 26, 2019, 9:45 PM

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ye

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but troodon isn't a real dino is it?

thorny lynx Dec 26, 2019, 9:45 PM

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... it is.

vestal rune Dec 26, 2019, 9:46 PM

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oh

agile kiln Dec 26, 2019, 9:46 PM

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its nonem dubium

vestal rune Dec 26, 2019, 9:46 PM

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ye

agile kiln Dec 26, 2019, 9:46 PM

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troodontids are still a thing

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the genus troodon officially doesn't exist anymore

vestal rune Dec 26, 2019, 9:46 PM

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ye

thorny lynx Dec 26, 2019, 9:47 PM

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Troodons may jave been omnivorous.

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Probably ate shit like seeds and fruits, too.

agile kiln Dec 26, 2019, 9:47 PM

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I mean, I can see that

vestal rune Dec 26, 2019, 9:47 PM

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I mean, that could be a interesting way to differentiate dilo and troodon

agile kiln Dec 26, 2019, 9:47 PM

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things like wolves eat berries and roots from time to time

thorny lynx Dec 26, 2019, 9:48 PM

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Galli should be omnivorous in a way thst it eats very small insects and lizards and frogs

agile kiln Dec 26, 2019, 9:48 PM

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depends what Troodontid they use

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do we know that?

vestal rune Dec 26, 2019, 9:48 PM

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I mean, it is a big paleomeme

thorny lynx Dec 26, 2019, 9:48 PM

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I mean, it has a high metabolism that demands food all the time.

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It probably did peck at bugs and lizards at times.

simple maple Dec 26, 2019, 9:49 PM

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I think a few ideas to differentiate them would be to have Troodons venom have a different effect.

agile kiln Dec 26, 2019, 9:49 PM

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honestly, I'm not sure this thing will be able to compete with dilo and the like at all

📎 260px-Stenonychosaurus-scale.png

simple maple Dec 26, 2019, 9:50 PM

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Probably be a carnivorous equivalent of a dryo

thorny lynx Dec 26, 2019, 9:50 PM

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Troodon shmol

agile kiln Dec 26, 2019, 9:50 PM

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dryo aint that small

vestal rune Dec 26, 2019, 9:50 PM

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like they can just make it larger

simple maple Dec 26, 2019, 9:50 PM

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Smol, but speedy and annoying with fast grow

vestal rune Dec 26, 2019, 9:51 PM

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troodon isn't really a valid genus so they don't have to stick to any specific size

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I imagine they'll make it similar to the JP troodon

agile kiln Dec 26, 2019, 9:51 PM

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imo Latenivenatrix would be best, its a big ass Troodontid

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📎 9k.png

thorny lynx Dec 26, 2019, 9:53 PM

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Achillpbator looks badass

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Actually like it.

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📎 achillobator_giganticus_by_teratophoneus_d9mz46d-fullview.jpg

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I would take this over Utah any day.

night mountain Dec 26, 2019, 9:54 PM

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To be fair dinosaurs wouldn’t actually need a venom meter since they don’t inject in one payload like a viper or something does

agile kiln Dec 26, 2019, 9:55 PM

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I mean cherrytrain

thorny lynx Dec 26, 2019, 9:55 PM

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But there has to be a limit for how many times a bite can deliver venom

agile kiln Dec 26, 2019, 9:55 PM

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Utah is a really interesting animal

thorny lynx Dec 26, 2019, 9:55 PM

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I mean, accurate utahraptor is awesome

agile kiln Dec 26, 2019, 9:55 PM

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📎 utahraptor2017.png

thorny lynx Dec 26, 2019, 9:55 PM

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Speroraptor is just a meme now.

simple maple Dec 26, 2019, 9:55 PM

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Getting eaten usually stops venom output lol

agile kiln Dec 26, 2019, 9:55 PM

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raptor bear

night mountain Dec 26, 2019, 9:56 PM

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Utah’s like a wannabe allosaur isle Utah has almost nothing in common with it

agile kiln Dec 26, 2019, 9:56 PM

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which is a shame

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bc that bulky bastard would be amazing