#general-feedback-discussion

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long heath
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People will learn that Deinosuchus inhabit that lake and will stay away from it.

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Insulting people isn't making your argument any stronger dondiLUL

sage helm
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Why

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why would a deino migrate

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Why

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In the world

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would an aquatic migrate

thorny lynx
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10m deino is fine

long heath
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Deinos are ambush predators.

grave karma
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who the hell said 28 foot deino

long heath
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Deino waits until animal comes to drink.

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Deino strikes and kills it.

grave karma
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you're the one who wants a 39 foot deino

long heath
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Eventually word spreads about Deinosuchus in that lake.

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Dinos stop coming.

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Deinos most likely won't be able to sustain their numbers off fish.

sage helm
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So instead they go to a different lake that has another deino

long heath
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Rain comes

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Migrate with the flooding.

sage helm
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Will there even be flooding?

long heath
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I don't think staying in one place your entire life is fun.

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Especially when you heavily rely on things to come to you.

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Say I was a Deinosuchus at...I dunno, Twins.

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This is just for example.

sage helm
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The point of ambush dinos is to sit and wait in one place

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They are typically slower

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rely on high pop areas

long heath
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A herd passes through and suddenly I snag one of the herd members.

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Herd members fuck off because they know there are Deinosuchus in the water and it isn't safe.

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Suddenly no more food.

sage helm
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Thats fine

long heath
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Then those herds tell their friends on Discord.

sage helm
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since you have a whole body which will last a while

long heath
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And almost everyone steers clear from the lake.

sage helm
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And if deinos have slow metabolism like typical crocs...

long heath
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They can still starve.

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Point is at some point they're going to want to move around.

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Because the most exciting bit about a Deinosuchus's gameplay is the ambush.

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But they won't be able to get that ambush if nobody is around TO ambush.

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So essentially you'll be sitting in the water with nothing to do for hours.

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It's like sitting in a bath tub.

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But you don't have toys, bubbles or even music and some candles if you're into that.

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Plus the water is cold.

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It gets stale.

gritty helm
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I wouldn't be surprised if the new maps will have rivers connecting the big-ish lakes together allowing Deino to migrate without going on land tbh

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that way Deino isn't forced to migrate on land if it doesn't want to

thorny lynx
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Deino won't have to worry about literally anything. All it has to do is grab hold of a leg and then roll

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But deino won't be able to death roll :(

night mountain
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im gonna laugh when deino is obvious as hell because of clear water everywhere

barren zephyr
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😂 😂 😂

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Deino thinking is super camo and lurks around for prey , but herbis see it as clear as day

slender spindle
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@past valve there is going to be a way point system in some way im not 100% sure how tho

past valve
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Ok

blazing charm
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@outer lion Acrocanthosaurus neeeds so much more than just a new model and some changed stats, every playable that's added to survival needs some kind of gimmick or mechanic, and as it currently stands Acrocanthosaurus' niche is pretty much taken up by Giga, so you'd need to think outside the box.

outer lion
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damn. You're right

slender spindle
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400 heal sitting is higher then gigas 350ish

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iirc

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if it keep the stam (i hope not) then 35km is good but

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then allo is gonna get hunted alot

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34.4km for allo

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well if giga (in the giga rework) it becomes a sauropod hunter then acro can by a mid hunter much to a lot of peoples hatred for giga rn

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acro can do it but as the mid tier variant

blazing charm
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Mid tier hunter is such a broad term.

slender spindle
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also 5,000 instead of 5,500 health would do

blazing charm
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It'd still need some kind of unique ability or quality.

slender spindle
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well gigas is the "trot" right?

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acro already has a faster trot

blazing charm
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A trot does not count as an ability.

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I'm talking about mechanics.

slender spindle
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rex has bb what does any other dino have?

blazing charm
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Okay

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FUTURE

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mechanics.

slender spindle
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ok

blazing charm
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Rex is the crusher, Giga can flesh-graze

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Dilo has venom, raptors have pounce

slender spindle
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giga getting flesh grazer type deal

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yeah

blazing charm
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See where I am going with this?

slender spindle
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yes

blazing charm
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What can Acro do that's any different?

slender spindle
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well this talk don't matter acro gonna be AI

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i don't like it but

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thats what they doing

blazing charm
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Y'know, you could always just

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hear me out here.

slender spindle
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ok

blazing charm
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Come up with a valid reason to make it a playable.

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But nope, the moment the word AI is uttered, all hope is lost.

slender spindle
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i would love acro survival

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i do have stats and abilities that i would give every dino (even not in the isle)

barren zephyr
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yeah ok but you would really need an reason to be a playable

slender spindle
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well yeah jaffad is right thats how dondi thinks sooo thats how we have to think

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soooo 0% chance of tarbosaurus

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acro looks different from the other dinos sooo it gets a pass but it really doesn't offer much

barren zephyr
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its like giga

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literally

slender spindle
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yeah

barren zephyr
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tell me, what makes it different?

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you just keep saying you just want int

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but thats it

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whats the reason behind it

slender spindle
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what?

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i said i would love acro

barren zephyr
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thats

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not a reason

slender spindle
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then i said its gonna be AI

barren zephyr
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to add a dino

slender spindle
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did you not read what i typed?

barren zephyr
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yes, it seems like you want acro

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but know its prolly going to be AI

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so i dont get this discussion

slender spindle
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the other guy wanted acro i say i loved the idea

barren zephyr
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ah ye

slender spindle
barren zephyr
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i read that

slender spindle
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not me

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why did you go off on a tangent at me?

barren zephyr
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i didnt?

slender spindle
barren zephyr
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if you think im hostile, thats honestly your problem.

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yeah you dont get. people want acro

slender spindle
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no me and the other guy were talking then you butted in

barren zephyr
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but only say bc they just simply want it

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give no niche, no intresting thigns for the dino

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that are not smilar to giga alrdy

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or any other dino

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tldr, acro is unneccessary

slender spindle
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i said giga is getting a rework so if acro was gonna be playable it can pick up were giga left and be the mid tier hunter but as a mid tier itself

barren zephyr
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i honestly doubt it.

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its too similar

slender spindle
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its never gonna happen

barren zephyr
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ye

slender spindle
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thats my point

barren zephyr
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ah

slender spindle
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"IF"

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not "IS"

barren zephyr
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to me theres no if

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lol

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when its abt acro

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not abt what u said i mean

slender spindle
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"if acro was gonna be playable"

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ok

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something about you triggers me

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idk what

barren zephyr
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something about aswell

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you

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dammit

slender spindle
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lol

blazing charm
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This is still going on?

barren zephyr
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no i stopped

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hes typing soo peepoShrug

slender spindle
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@outer lion acro would be good with 5,000 health, 500 damage and 20 bleed with 35 secs of stam and 35km/h i think this sounds good and 400 down to 250 healing while sitting as gigas is about 350

and no im just trying to actually talk about the suggestion and make some improvements apon it

barren zephyr
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kay then

slender spindle
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bc you know the suggestion is a big if that will never happen and its just nice to talk about "IF"s

barren zephyr
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again.

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Its no 'if' to me

slender spindle
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why not?

barren zephyr
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acro is for me def a no.

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highly doubt its going to be playable

slender spindle
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same

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its just nice to talk about something thats not an apex

barren zephyr
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i mean. its supposed to be pseudo apex

slender spindle
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tier 4

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yes

barren zephyr
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tier 4.5

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actually

slender spindle
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still gets smacked but sucho

barren zephyr
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where my small tier talk at dondiSucc

slender spindle
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has it should really if its faster then sucho then sucho should out turn it

barren zephyr
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never going to happen anyway

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bc

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sand b o x

slender spindle
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we can go to off topic and talk about small dinos

barren zephyr
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since dondi said he wanted more small dinosaurs, and announced 8 new ones, i just hope some of them are small tier

slender spindle
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same

barren zephyr
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i should perhaps think abt stats and a niche n stuff for citipati

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but idk aa

slender spindle
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no more apexes plz dondi

barren zephyr
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herb apexes tho

slender spindle
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oh yes

barren zephyr
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35kms acro

slender spindle
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spino last one at least for a while

barren zephyr
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55 km/s acro

slender spindle
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35km/h with shit turn

barren zephyr
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Why do ppl want faster than midtier base speed for their shitty apexes...

slender spindle
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jk

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acro not an apex

barren zephyr
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who knows

slender spindle
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how will acro ever be an apex

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its stuck with the spseudo title

barren zephyr
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its the 4th biggest carnivore ingame

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should stick with the sandbox title PelaFeelsGood

slender spindle
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so?

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yeah

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acro has the "don't touch" me role ingame

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1 bite dies from bleed*

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do you want to see my acro stats? (not retaliated to the isle at all)

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if so ill put it in offtopic

compact flicker
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Itd be nice for Acros stats to fit its size more 👍

crimson phoenix
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acro is too big at the moment

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its why it's camera is soo bad

barren zephyr
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its size isnt the reason the cam is so bad

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its just old, bad placement

barren zephyr
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You wouldn't need the filter if you didn't get banned Nah I'm jk that's a really good idea

blazing charm
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@barren zephyr I'm all for giving options for those with difficult hearing or sight, but I feel like subtitles can be abused, specifically on the range it would pick up on certain sounds, let's say someone is playing and doesn't hear a dinosaur call because they're distracted or it's so far way it mixes with the ambience, but they are notified of the sound because of the subtitles.

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You could argue that issue can be solved by only picking up on incredibly obvious sounds, but then the feature has very limited use.

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Just my thoughts.

barren zephyr
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Ah I didn’t think of that, thank you

sage helm
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Hmm

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well a possible solution could be that things at that range arent identifiable

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Or have have multiple dinos that it could be

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Or something

barren zephyr
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It’s fine lol, I’ll wing the game like I am now 😂

sage helm
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I think its a great idea to have it accessible for people who are hard of hearing

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Its just hard to balance

barren zephyr
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Yeah but if it doesn’t work awell, was a good idea 🙂

crimson phoenix
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Subtitles are really abuseable, Overwatch added them and every pro player is using them despite not needing them because they give a lot of information

night mountain
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Yeah thats the big issue with it. Theres no way to have them without it being strictly better than the actual sound

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esp in a game where sneaking up on shit is so important

crimson phoenix
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Bushes can rustle without anything rustling them, but footsteps only happen when something is walking, subtitles make stealth nearly impossible.

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on another note of stealth, the footsteps suggestion. I would love an option to maybe even be able to mute your own footsteps

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when I'm trike I turn my volume way down because the constant thundering of my thickness is deafening

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While each player is different, I've found it's a lot easier to sneak up on a trike compared to a shant (shants have a different footstep sound and it's a lot quieter) and I would credit this entirely to the footsteps, with the footsteps either being louder than me or them turning their volume down

past valve
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Subtitles also ruin the suspense of the game by not knowing what made that certain sound, I love the mysteriousness around the whole island with strange sounds here and there

valid zephyr
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@barren zephyr I'm super pro that idea. I really struggle to play carni due to my hearing and lack of directional sound (though even using my decent headset I still can't hear the AI). Subtitles and little direction indicators would make life so much nicer for hard of hearing people. People with good hearing can hear a single AI call half a km away in dense forest, then turn and run straight to it.

I don't think it should tell you the actual dino call though. Should just tell you what the noise is so you still have to learn it. (aka dibble 1 call is: bwbrbrbrbrbrb)

barren zephyr
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Yeah that’s a good idea 😃

valid zephyr
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Maybe crouch walking would cause no subtitles to be generated and no direction indicators, so you can't see when a dino is sneaking up.

barren zephyr
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Yes sneaking would have no sound

valid zephyr
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Dibble 1 call: bwrbrbrbrbrb
Allo 1 call: aaarrrrgggghhhh
Utah 1 call: BORK

Stuff like that so it doesn't tell you the actual dino.

barren zephyr
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Yes and you cant hear crouched sounds or anything that gives it away but still gives you the suspense of the game without giving out location of the sound to much

valid zephyr
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Would show vibrations in the corner of the screen, and the closer you are to the noise the more focused they would be, so you still have to home in on the sound and don't get a perfect indicator.

barren zephyr
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Yes!

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Good idea!

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And you can’t hear in rain as it kills the sound?

valid zephyr
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or at least reduces the range things show up

barren zephyr
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I love the sound indicator idea!!

valid zephyr
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My 10/10 paint skills.

violet magnet
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can we just appreciate the accuracy of the calls depicted

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AAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHH
BORK

valid zephyr
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I should have added the ava I heard, but not sure what they say.

violet magnet
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ava noise

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dinner bell

valid zephyr
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Keeping the noises as just their described sounds will give you the same amount of info hearing players get.

pulsar orchid
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How about, with that idea you had @valid zephyr , those green things pointing out sounds were distortions on the screen that took a sharp eye to see? Such as what you'd see when heat comes off of pavement in the distance, or "fake water". Just a bit of a blur shaking around at the top of the screen - makes it easy for someone paying attention to see sounds being made, but to those just chatting it up, it keeps the stealthy things stealthy

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not sure how to differentiate between herbi or carni calls though

valid zephyr
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That could work too, maybe the louder the noise the more obvious they are.

pulsar orchid
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Exactly

valid zephyr
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Aka if a rex 1 calls 2metres behind you, they're not subtle.

pulsar orchid
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Yes! and it can be in the direction heard

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to someone who can hear, it'd be annoying, but to someone who has trouble, it could be a lifesaver

valid zephyr
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somone who could hear would never turn the option on in the first place.

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I imagine you would have to go into the menu and hit the checkbox.

valid flower
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@barren zephyr Well that just ruins the game

barren zephyr
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It was just a thought

valid flower
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It ruins the aspect of the game

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The game won’t be scary or challenging at all.

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something big calls Oh wait that’s just a para lmfao lemme go kill it

barren zephyr
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Well it helps the people who can’t hear actually play the game

valid flower
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Instead, something big calls Oh wow, let me go inspect it.

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Pretty sure there isn’t deaf people

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And if there is they would suggest it.

barren zephyr
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Um your talking to one bro

valid flower
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Oh, I’m sorry.

barren zephyr
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It heaps with learning where the sound comes from and such

valid flower
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Should’ve said that

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I get ur point.

barren zephyr
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It’s okay but remember it might not be for you but it would be so helpful for me

valid flower
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Yeah I understand.

barren zephyr
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All good though, just a thought 🙂 I like the game how it is just don’t know if my heart can take turning around and seeing something in my face I didn’t hear coming 😂

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But all well 🙂

valid zephyr
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@valid flower we already came up with an alternate idea where the sound is labelled how it sounds, rather than what dino it is

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which means deaf players would still need to learn the sounds

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aka an anky calls means you would just see "Honk"

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on the screen

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rather than it saying "Anky 1 call"

barren zephyr
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So pretty much more learning of the game to learn the sounds you hear, I need to learn the sounds displayed. So you can hear a giga and know it’s a giga by the call, I see the giga sound (no idea what sound) and have a list of what it could be and narrow it down til I see it

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I really like these ideas, I hope the dev team takes a look 🙂 excited for the recode 🙂

barren zephyr
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Pin me if this idea comes up again 🙂

proud crystal
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it would be really nice if it was combined with jenkens' concept for it + a checkbox in settings so you can turn it off if you don't need it and in servers like deathmatch or sandbox where everyone spam calls

valid zephyr
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yeah a settings checkbox would be essential, with it off by default

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not everyone likes screen clutter

violet magnet
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i'm just picturing a utah F-call as being a simple "bork" and the 1-call broadcast being "BORK", in big letters and the word shakes

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maybe the word gets bigger and starts to shake the closer the call is?

valid zephyr
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utah F call could be "ruff"?

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1 call as "Bork"

violet magnet
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also
"somone who could hear would never turn the option on in the first place."

they might turn it on just to have that extra indication of which direction calls are coming from. Maybe if their headphones are bad or if directional sound doesn't work

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or as a hackery exploit thing

valid zephyr
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That is why the furthur away the sound is, the mosre loose the sound indicator would be. A far off sound might only display which 45 degrees it's coming from

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@cyan flame now wants to hear our text interpretations of all the dino calls. :/

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Utah 3 call: "Hisss"

violet magnet
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well allo is easy

1-call = AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH

valid zephyr
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AAAARRRRRGGGGGGHHHHH

cyan flame
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Can you blame me? xD
Comrade Jenkens, #HerbiRights:Dibble 1 call: bwrbrbrbrbrb
Allo 1 call: aaarrrrgggghhhh
Utah 1 call: BORK

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Of course I want to see the rest of your speech to text calls :p

violet magnet
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nu AAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGHHHHHHH is the allo 3-call

cyan flame
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You only have yourself to blame for making hilarious interpretations xD

violet magnet
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velo 1-call
"skuh-REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"

valid zephyr
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Theri: ttthhhhRRRREEEEEEEEEEE

haughty cliff
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re: dino footsteps, i've mentioned before that large animals are actually really quiet (usually b/c of skin/fat beneath the feet). Elephants can actually creep right up on a man without being heard. They set their feet down gently; stomping would destroy joints/bones. Vibrations aren't even needed; just make all footfalls quieter!

tepid gate
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To be fair, the main problem with the thundering footsteps is that there's this explosive sound every time you walk on the grass(water has it to some extent as well) however whenever you're on some other type of terrain the footsteps seem fine imo(the problem is that the vast majority of the maps is well... grass)

sharp jungle
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my suggestion was mysteriously deleted.

blazing charm
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Probably because it was just a one-liner that gave no actual reasons for being implemented?

sharp jungle
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maybe so.

feral wedge
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Correct.

sharp jungle
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can't really think of any other reason other than gigas are apexes and it would be kind of unfair to bar giga players from having magnas.

feral wedge
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It's a lore creature. Not an equal rights for animals benefit.

blazing charm
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^

sharp jungle
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where in the lore does it explicitly state gigas cannot mutate into magnas

feral wedge
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Where did it say that magnas were mutated into?

blazing charm
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^ Not to mention not every creature has to have a Magna counterpart, those specific creatures may be more important to the "lore" than others.

sharp jungle
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true, but considering this game's track record, you'd think magna would just be another strain

blazing charm
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It's been explicitly stated that they are not strains.

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It's confusing, I know.

sharp jungle
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well then i was wrong, and thank you for clearing up my misconceptions

topaz epoch
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Best to just keep in mind that we don't know anything about strains and magnas except what the devs want us to know, and that so far is very very little

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Literally everything that's been said about them except what's come from the devs' mouth is speculative at best

sharp jungle
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i guess we'll just have to wait and see

barren zephyr
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"SANDBOX"
herra and alberto has been updated in sandbox before, fixed model for alberto and damage buff for herra.

Sandbox dinosaurs can be updated and you survival people are not making any sense.

patent spade
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@shell garnet i would say if they spam bite it should use stamina, would make players have to be more strategic in their bites instead of just alt turn spam biting and letting the bite drag do all the work, plus it would suck to leave a player completely defenseless no matter the dino

violet magnet
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@barren zephyr hell, camara is a sandbox dino and it just got a whole new round of animations dondiLUL
never got the "iT's SAnDBoX" argument

tepid gate
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The argument is simple: it's not in survival :. it's low priority. It's not a part of the current roster and balance. Camara had an update and it seemed like it was being prepared for being added to survival, will it be? Only time will tell.

blazing charm
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Sandbox are animals are usually a very low priority, besides I think people are forgetting that the game is currently going through an overhaul, so there's literally zero point in updating the stats of any of the animals.

lilac swallow
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Why bother wasting time on balancing something that isnt playable?

manic ibex
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I guess because it is actually playable

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just not on the servers that we play

lilac swallow
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If its only playable on a "mess around" sandbox Mode It isnt playable

manic ibex
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So, if it is a playable then it isn't a playable?

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You would be quite surprised to see the number of people that are actually playing in sanbox in maps like V3 and Thenyaw.

pulsar lake
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As we know, all dinosaurs are getting a rework, or almost.
We know that allosaurus is one of the reworked dinosaur so maybe it will have a model more like that with this pattern.

However, different patterns are something to do in this game for variety!

thorny lynx
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@valid elk Crocodiles bury their nests underground.

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Their eggs are very nutritious to all kinds of animals, so they cannot afford to leave their nests laying around for all to see.

valid elk
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I should probably change that then

thorny lynx
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Yeah.

valid elk
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A mound of dirt with eggs hidden under seems a bit...much

thorny lynx
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Yeah, they make sure to cover the nest like turtles do

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They make their nest look unassuming, but monitor lizards, birds, baboons, and other animals can tell when mama croc isn't hovering around her nest and even harass her until she has no choice to go back into the water because she is overheating.

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Their eggs are pretty tasty by animal standards, which is kind of sad.

valid elk
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Then again, they do lay a ton of eggs

thorny lynx
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80 at most for the Nile croc.

limpid dove
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honest to god that allo posted as a suggestion w/ the spikes looks half-hypo half-not. lowkey looks fire af and i wouldn't have a single issue with it being part of the game.

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that's just me

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i think the design is cool. lol

sharp jungle
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Imagines birth of a wish from nier playing when apexes fight. Situational music sounds great

crimson phoenix
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The allo in suggestions looks like a boosted allo (hyper or magna). It looks to "advanced" or whatever you want to call it compared to the other creatures we have to be just a standard dino (just my opinion)

thorny lynx
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If that allo was hyper allo in the future with a jaw that opens 90+ degrees and acts like an axe, spiky tail, hypo scutes and plates on the back, I would enjoy that.

barren zephyr
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What do the timers mean?

jovial moss
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they're working on what you suggested or plan on implementing it in the future already but it will take time to get there

barren zephyr
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Oh awesome

slender spindle
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@potent sonnet i like your giga doc but i see some things that might go wrong with it

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like gigas bleed was the problem for mid tiers and you keep the trot the same (trot is the big complaint) im fine with the trot but with the new attack "flesh grazing bite" seems a bit over the top

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this ability can be a passive like rexes bb (but not for combat) like attacks grant small amounts of food, instead of more damage and bleed with it

sage helm
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Trot is more of the issue than the bleed tho

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Since giga 1 shots most mid tiers

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And can trot then down till the end of time

slender spindle
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i would say nerf it to the point were its still faster then rexes trot but not what it is now and buff the base speed a bit 32ish km and not nerf the stam

sage helm
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That would be too big of a nerf imo

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It may be too fast rn

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But

slender spindle
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i meant keep it faster then rex

sage helm
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If we take away the one thing that makes it an endurance pred

slender spindle
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then why were you complaining about it?

sage helm
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Im not complaining about nerfing it at all. Im arguing against nerfing it to where its just slightly faster than rex

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Its like

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Cerato

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He was nerfed to the point where he doesnt even do his job because he was too strong in the past

slender spindle
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i only said it to please the giga haters i would like to keep the trot

sage helm
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Oh okay

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Not a giga hater tho

slender spindle
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i thought you were someone that hated on gigas trot and i didn't want to argue

lilac swallow
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I could be considered a giga hater, but i know that nerfing something to cerato level is not the solution

slender spindle
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so is the trot fine or no?

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i like it

sage helm
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Eh I think its just a tad too fast but if only minuscule

ionic comet
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Giga compensates by having a good trot speed, and I think its fine with how it is

slender spindle
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^same

sage helm
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Now what is really bad about giga is it's alt turn

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Im sure we can all agree on that

slender spindle
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it is a bit too fast compared to everyother dino

lilac swallow
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Giga should have a fast trot, but i think having the second best trot is a bit too much

slender spindle
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3rd, 4th maybe id say

sage helm
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Whats the first best?

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Carno?

slender spindle
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dilo

lilac swallow
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Dilo

sage helm
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Oh

slender spindle
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yeah

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anyways my main point was the ability

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the "flesh grazing bite"

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it is a bit over the top

sage helm
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I could see it only working on sauropods

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And poooosssiiiblly trike?

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But that would be stretching it

slender spindle
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if a small thing runs at you they gonna die

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ether 1 shot from pure damage and if not bleed out instantly

sage helm
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Yup

slender spindle
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although "IF" this does come to the game i would imagine rex not want to fight giga head on and thats not what i think they want for the match up

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so the lesser approach of just like rexes ability be a passive and happen on attacks

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like attacks grant small amounts of food

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or lower targets bleed resistance

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i think that was going to be gigas ability before they scraped it

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the brace ability is fine i think if the giga could still trot

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but not run

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giving a 50% blunt force damage reduction (so the tail hits)

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and still be able to attack along with it

slender spindle
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and rex trots faster then cerato

valid zephyr
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paras trot should be one of the faster ones imo. To make it great at migrating.

slender spindle
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para does need more love

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its a runner not a fighter

valid zephyr
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at the moment it's a fighter not a runner. :/

slender spindle
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yeah unfortunately

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sucho, para, cerato, dibble, pachy need some trot lovin

sage helm
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At the moment its neither

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It runs it dies

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It fights it dies

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But there have been rumors that its getting some love so fingers crossed

slender spindle
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yeah

past valve
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I’m literally maining as para even tho it succs

sly jackal
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personally i think the only 3 current officials that should not regain stam unless sitting are trike, giga and rex

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the para should have the kind of stamina and maybe even speed that the shant has

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and more agility

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-rex: should be an agile and really deadly fighter, i'ts main prey should be actually (sucho) para and trike, but it should be the slowest dinosaur in the whole game in every regard. and overall after the stupid damage multiplier is out of the window, the mass should be about 8 ton and health maybe a bit more. i do not even think that it should have an actual run in its regular form and the top speed at any time should be no more then 34km/hour

nocturne sonnet
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excuse me we get new damage sxstem and para is too slow

sly jackal
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ah, and how does that damage system work ?any word on it?

nocturne sonnet
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no but weight wont be a thing anaymore in it

sly jackal
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indeed, but still, just saying that even though weight kinda should be irrelevant, it kinda would be nice if in the stats the weight stats are somewhat realistic. i know, the devs do not care that much about it, so does most of the fan base, but still, we all know there will be people who want some things to be right

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for an example, giving the rex more health then weight, simply to show like: this one is actually more robust build then most conmparable dinosaurs/is known to have sustained a lot of injuries in certain examples, but recovered from them

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vs maybe an oposite example, like how the current sandbox spinosaurus is currently having its weight be more then its health

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-that being said, i think the giga should have a mass of 10 ton and health of 10 000 or something, so it could counter a rex better....and have less bite force and more bleed, like currently, but in this case done balanced enough so that a giga could survive one bite without bonebreak(if that still will be implemented in some form, kinda hope it will, but not like how it is in its current format) and still deliver a bleeder bite and balance chances out for 50 percent in favor of each

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as for current still in sandbox hell spinosaur:, that one should become a special variation of the "aquatic" spinosaur, since this latter one is the real deal. and i think this latter one should kinda be like the current sandbox spino, evenly matched against the giga(and once balanced, also the rex) albeit be slower and less agile, but just be a fast swimmer

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overall this would make the spino dinosaur of the lake, the rex the dinosaur of thenot so dense forests and the giga be more of a dinosaur that lives in the open(if it gets more speed, less agility and more stam then the rex that is)

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in the mean time i think the acro, should kinda be a bit like the current giga(a lot of stam, capable of speed beyond the 37-39km/hour barrier), but with less health and thus also a lot less bite force, and kinda be the non toxic dilophosaurus of the apexes, and have excelent nightvision compared to the actual 3 apexes

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and before i rant to much, the devs might disagree, but not having the shantungosaurus as a playable dinosaur is a waste. If the stamina should compare to that of the trike and the stomp should do not more damage then what is needed to kill an apex, it seems fair game to me, especially since the shant would not have bleed

past valve
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And make it slower

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I mean current shant is as fast as allo in a straight line with allo being like 0.5 km/h faster

elder swan
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@fresh pelican for your third suggestion, that would be easily abused; it has been in the past. a while ago people would alt-f4 the game, shut down their computer or disconect their internet to immediately poof when getting attacked, and the server would roll back their dino by like 2 minutes, so they would do that to combat log, or during long fights to insta-heal their dinos and jump back into the battle. I'm not saying people with crappy internet should be punished for something beyond their control, but if they have an advantage becuase if slow or patchy connections, other players will find a way to abuse that advantage.

fresh pelican
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You bring up a good point, I hadn't thought about that, nor had I known that a similar mechanic had been abused in the past. Wasn't really thinking when I posted that, but i agree that could very easily be abused. Nvm then lol

indigo sun
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@proven bolt ai literally spawns next to players. It should be easy as hell finding ai because it spawns based on the player's hunger. If you're having issues finding ai it is not the game's fault. Not like it's supposed to be easy growing an apex anyway, so i dont see a problem if people are having trouble growing them.

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Ai also screams for you to come munch its ass so seriously, if you cant find ai you need to get better at recognizing it.

proven bolt
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Yeah if it don’t spawn in a whole hour of playing the game like you here no tacos no Ava’s for a whole hour something must be up if nothing spawns for a whole hour

indigo sun
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What's the player cap of the server you play on

proven bolt
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That’s what I mean

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200

indigo sun
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Yeah theres your issue

proven bolt
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And I get that 200 is a lot there’s your food there but you get in trouble for hunting those people on the servers so you can’t do shit the only thing you can eat is ai but it doesn’t spawn

indigo sun
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Current ai, because someone couldnt write proper code, kinda gets fucked up past 100-110 i think players. Playing on higher cap servers will fuck up the ai. Ai's gonna work a lot different post-recode so it wont be spawning by players anymore so it wont be relying on players to spawn

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So you wont be waiting ages for ai to spawn near you. You'll just have to look for it properly

paper oriole
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LOL "its so hard for any juvie apex to grow" is this for real

indigo sun
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I can see how it'd be hard if the ai doesnt spawn properly but personally i really dont see a problem with someone having trouble growing a rex or giga

proven bolt
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That’s because you don’t like it when they kill you but I’m not one of those Apex is that hunt down players I preferred to hunt down the AI to eat because I like to give players the ability to grow as well but I can’t do that without ai spawning so thank God it will be better in recode

indigo sun
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Uhh i actually dont give a shit if i get killed by an apex but i do care when they end up being 70-80% of a server because it is the most unbalanced ecosystem ever

proven bolt
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👌

violet magnet
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"you get in trouble for hunting those people on the servers"

how are you...supposed to...survive as carni...?

mellow fox
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By being a respectable melon farmer, obviously

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ava 🍈 🍉

paper oriole
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imagine playing on a server where hunting is against the rules

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then acting like the lack of food is the game's fault

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also choosing to play as an apex carnivore while also not wanting to hunt players is kinda hmmm

crimson phoenix
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Yea when you have like 200 people online ai spawns get a bit whack but you can deal with this. If you start to starve you can log out and log back in either at a lower player count or just after the server restarts. 9 times out of 10 you will get ai spawning in the first minute

proven bolt
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Just forget it if you guys are going to put me down I don’t fucking care just drop it

sonic cloud
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People are putting you down for giving a bad suggestion that fixes a problem that doesn’t exist.

Any problems you seem to be having with apex seem to be entirely self imposed
(You don’t want to hunt as a carnivore, playing on a server that prohibits hunting).
You can easily fix those problems by finding a better server and choosing to hunt players.

People have offered you easy solutions and yet you still act as if there is a problem.

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Like what are people supposed to do? Tell you “yeah you’re playing the faction that’s designed to hunt players but if you don’t want to do the one thing your faction is meant to do you get rewarded with a free apex.”

Like if you don’t want to hunt players herbivores will be far more suited to your playstyle. If you don’t want to do the things that carnivores are designed to do then you simply don’t have to play carnivore

white torrent
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I mean- some gore shouldn’t be eaten by some creatures. Not that they couldn’t irl, but some folks are only able to hold out on yhe gore they find

shell garnet
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There should be random sized gores spawing around the map. That would solve this problem.

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And we sure need bigger ai. Mabe a dibble ai or a maia ai

valid zephyr
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oh look

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another mating suggestion

indigo sun
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No mating mechanics

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Lets keep this game mildly respectable.please.

frail sigil
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@shell garnet Keep it to serious suggestions only. Your extra comments were not needed.

indigo sun
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2 is your mating call. Use it. As for mating mechanics, i cant think of any ones that wouldnt be.. absolutely bad

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This dude

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Postin fuckin jesus and an irradiated chicken

shell garnet
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cmon guys

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in the game you just lay eggs out of thin air

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@frail sigil you could've just delete the unnecessary comment but not the whole suggestion. It was all family friendly material :/

frail sigil
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With the joke comments I considered it to be a troll suggestion. If you wish to repost it without any comments I will allow it but this is a warning.

indigo sun
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Males will be involved in the future but any actual "mating" will not happen

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It just wont

shell garnet
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I mean

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Mating doesn't have to be realistic

indigo sun
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I dont see a need for anything more than nest making

shell garnet
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mabe like in ark survival evolveds current mating

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Males dont have a use right now

indigo sun
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They will

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They'll be involved in nest making and poppin out babies in the future. Shit aint gonna change right now though

lilac swallow
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Dude mating is just dinosaur porn we Dong want that

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Dont*

shell garnet
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Fam

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It doesn't have to be dirty

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Imagine mating in other family friendly games

indigo sun
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Like what

shell garnet
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when you feed both sheep in minecraft they dont actually frick

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get the point?

outer nebula
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@shell garnet people been trying and the verdict is noooooooooooo

indigo sun
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They dont do anything but smoosh their faces together and i doubt dinos are gonna be doing that

lilac swallow
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Is either porn or straight up just (like your Minecraft example) Pink Hearts floating everywhere

shell garnet
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@outer nebula wouldnt it be great tho

outer nebula
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no

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simply no

shell garnet
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why dude

outer nebula
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because why would that be needed for a game for survival

lilac swallow
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Is a progress, at least he dont really want Dino porn like most mating suggesters

indigo sun
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Its absolutely uneccessary and if i was bryan i'd hate myself having to make that

last heath
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Male: builds nest
Female: clicks on nest selects egg button

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boom, mating

indigo sun
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There

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Nice simple mating suggestion zubumafu

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Perfect

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Thats all thats necessary

shell garnet
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There could be an option when you and your pair "mate calls"

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Like

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F to Fertilize

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no animation needed fam

indigo sun
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Or we could just stick to the nest

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And not deal with mating calls or whatever

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Or "fertilization"

shell garnet
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lol

last heath
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intense lewd staring contest

indigo sun
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Just have them work in a nest

shell garnet
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start making a dirt pile

indigo sun
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Hell yeah id love to make a dirt pile with my boyfriend

last heath
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we aint dinosaurs my guy, we be mammal

indigo sun
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Sounds great

grand brook
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...what is even is this discussion anymore

valid zephyr
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-Female places nest. That logs female as parent.
-Male then clicks on nest to log male as parent.
-Hatchlings can then pick their own skin by picking from the parents colours for each slot.

shell garnet
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Im kidding jesus

last heath
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nah, male makes nest, female does aboogamagooba magic and eggs spawn

shell garnet
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Seems legit

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thats what i would like to see in a realistic survival game which is supposed to make us feel like dinosaurs

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but yeah

indigo sun
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Its not supposed to be realistic.. i mean its sort of realistic cause most animals look like how they should

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But this game aint realism friend

shell garnet
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it will all change when 5 guys with ak47 chasing us

cyan flame
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Mating calls would be useful, mating anims.. less so :p

indigo sun
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Mating calls arent needed

shell garnet
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Yes eric

indigo sun
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You got chat and 2 calls

cyan flame
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Needed, maybe not, useful though

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Not the same thing :p

shell garnet
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finnaly someone that understands

indigo sun
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Chat works better

shell garnet
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5 mating call

outer nebula
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just use the 2 call

cyan flame
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Eh, chat requires you to find someone first

indigo sun
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2 call to get a friend "Hey wanna be my mate?" There we go

cyan flame
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Yeah except friendly is a bit more.. diverse than just that

indigo sun
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Damn fat fingers

grand brook
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different pitched 2 calls for each sex is the most I would include and it's pushing it

shell garnet
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how can they understand if you just want to share food or fricc

lilac swallow
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Just type in chat "want to place a nest?"

cyan flame
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I'd see a use in a broadcast version mating call, there's a difference between just looking for a pack/herd, and specifically for someone else willing to nest, since I imagine nesting is costly

indigo sun
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Well thats where the chat comes in

last heath
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be male, place nest, do a dance

cyan flame
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Zorr, something like that yes

shell garnet
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Lol

last heath
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ladies cant resist

shell garnet
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haha

indigo sun
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Say "hey join my nest" or whatever the fuck itll be in the future

shell garnet
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But fam

cyan flame
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The idea is to let someone know "I am male/female and looking for a nesting partner" vs "I exist and am looking for a pack/herd"

shell garnet
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Mating call is a special thing

cyan flame
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Yeah, but chat = finding someone already

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And then asking them after you found them

shell garnet
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you know what i mean

lament thorn
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then find someone first before decided if you want to nest with them?

last heath
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1 call to get friends, say in chat
''I REQUIRE A MATING PARTNER''

shell garnet
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in ALL documentaries you will hear a mating call

lament thorn
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and?

shell garnet
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mAtInG cAlL

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it would be fun dude

drowsy field
outer nebula
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this is not a sim this is a survival game people try to learn the difference

grand brook
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not all animals make mating calls though...

cyan flame
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I mean sure, you could broadcast, find someone, then ask everyone you find of the right gender if they want to nest but.. :p I just figure it would be easier, but then I'd also like a difference between friendly/neutral, and threaten/submissive, and danger/back up calls so

shell garnet
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i bet dinosaurs used to tho

cyan flame
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I want more calls/variations in general to be more specific in what you're trying to say :p And less chat in general, especially since chat right now = noise = everyone uses discord anyway xD

shell garnet
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we are Discussing which is this chat is for

last heath
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well, in the words of dondi:
''I get it. You people want shit, piss and fucking.''
so I doubt we'll get anything more than what I mentioned above

indigo sun
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What does it matter what dinosaurs used to do or whats in documentaries

final sundial
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The 4 calls we have now are kind of all we need though?

lament thorn
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5*

cyan flame
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I wouldn't say so Lorantec

indigo sun
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These arent real dinosaurs theyre genetic freaks

final sundial
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What else is needed exactly?

drowsy field
#

Maybe PoT would be willing to add a mating call for the ERPer's grimxdEats

wind heart
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She has a point

umbral prairie
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I mean there could be more calls that could be useful, but they aren't really needed imo

shell garnet
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I will be a dryo and 5 call all you guys if this mating call thing becomes a thing

indigo sun
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It wont become a thing though

shell garnet
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just saying

cyan flame
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Maybe people will mod things in anyway, might get a version with more calls in general

indigo sun
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Yeah just wait for mods if you want dino fuckin

shell garnet
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Dude

cyan flame
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Yes, because a useful call is exactly the same as a very graphic animation right^^

shell garnet
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i am still saying

indigo sun
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Christ on a bike

shell garnet
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i dont request any animations

indigo sun
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Aight m done

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Peace.bye. have a nice day with your unneccessary calls

cyan flame
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They're not uneccesary ^^

lament thorn
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I mean

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they are

cyan flame
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You're just not getting the point I think xD

shell garnet
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Just not really cool when you are born without a dad

cyan flame
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No they're not

lament thorn
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we have a chat

shell garnet
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lol

cyan flame
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You're just missing the point, or rather, you're willing to guess intent

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Whereas I would like clear intent in calls

shell garnet
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ITS NOT BECAUSE I DONT HAVE A Dad

lament thorn
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if you want to nest just broadcast around then ask in chat

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its that simple

shell garnet
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dude

cyan flame
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See, you think thats fine, I think it would be more useful, and easier, with more calls

outer nebula
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nine your my hero right now XD

shell garnet
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its just a suggesrion

last heath
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write that you require a mating partner

final sundial
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Its not supposed to be easy 4head

cyan flame
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So yeah.. you're entirely missing the point it seems like :p

lament thorn
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how?

final sundial
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Kind of the point of the limitations

cyan flame
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But that limitation is stupid Lorantec :p

lament thorn
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I mean I dont understand people who nest with and nest in strangers but it still doesnt make a difference

shell garnet
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so you guys dont want a mating call?

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and you wont use it if it was in game

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thats a big lie

lament thorn
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if it was added id use it

cyan flame
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Its just strange to me that you're fine with less rather than more communication

valid zephyr
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Imagine the sound of the docks if mating call got added...

lament thorn
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but why should it be added

shell garnet
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lol

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I dont want animations just to clarify

cyan flame
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To ease communication Blue, to not have to find you first, then see if you're the right gender, then ask, and hope for the best

umbral prairie
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what's the point of it? I personally don't need a mating call when we have a broadcast, which can tell others where I am and that I want to group just as well, the nesting can easily be discussed in chat, like you still need to talk about where to nest or when anyway even with the call so it doesn't really have much of a use in my eyes

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maybe I'm missing something

cyan flame
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Thats what the comes down to for me

shell garnet
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because i dont want to frick another weirdo at 3 am in a dinosaur game while my wife is crying in the room because that we are divorcing

cyan flame
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Its ease of you knowing when you hear the call what that person want, so if you're interested, go that way, if not, go the other way

shell garnet
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that is probably a guy

last heath
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just, get close and talk in chat

final sundial
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Not supposed to be easy

cyan flame
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I don't understand why you're opposed to clearer communication instead of going through the whole meet and greet hoping for the best :p

final sundial
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Survival game

cyan flame
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... thats not an argument Lorantec :p

outer nebula
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yes it is

lament thorn
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how is a call clearer?

cyan flame
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It's not "Easier to survive" cause you have better communication

lament thorn
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then chat

cyan flame
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No it's not Doc

lament thorn
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literal human communication

final sundial
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Kind of is though? Its a survival game, not easy peasy call game

cyan flame
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Cause calls can be heard from a distance

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But calls for clearer communication does not relate to survival

lament thorn
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people already bait with the 2 call image what they will do with the mating call

outer nebula
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yes its why waste time on adding calls when is better to make the game with more interesting features

shell garnet
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2 call doesnt have the best range

outer nebula
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thats the point

final sundial
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It does though, you want the calls so you dont have to possibly risk a dangerous encounter, thats an easier survival experience

outer nebula
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if for near by allies

cyan flame
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No..

lament thorn
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yeah because its not the broadcast

shell garnet
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mating call can be like 1 call but with like a melody

cyan flame
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It has nothing to do with dangerous encoutners

umbral prairie
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'cmere fuck me HAH im a cannibal'

cyan flame
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No idea how you got that into your mind

shell garnet
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imagine a giga singing

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that's awesome

last heath
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mating call be like:
''FUUUUUCK MEEEEE''

final sundial
#

You mentioned going through the whole meet and greet and hoping for the best, what else does that mean?

shell garnet
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Yea for humans

cyan flame
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I really don't see how a specific broadcast, or a specific danger call, or anything else, would be easier or harder for survival in general, especially since we have discord right now

final sundial
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So then why need the calls?

shell garnet
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Yea eric

cyan flame
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Lorantec, it means I would find it useful if I could use a broadcast, the same I would use for finding a friend in general, but with a specific intent, so anyone that hears it, but isnt interested, would know and not come find me

lament thorn
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if someone can justify the reason for mating calls ill back them

shell garnet
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some people dont know english well in isle and they comunicate with calls

cyan flame
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Its the difference between me looking for a pack, vs a mate

shell garnet
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ive seen many people

lament thorn
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then maybe dont nest with someone you cant talk to??

cyan flame
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Instead of broadcast - Find someone - Hope for right gender - hope they want to spend time nesting

shell garnet
#

Yea so you cant enjoy isle without knowing english. thats what you are saying

lament thorn
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literally didnt say that at all

viral creek
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i know what a mating call is

cyan flame
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You'd use a specific broadcast that tells your gender + implies "looking for nesting"

lament thorn
#

thanks for putting words in my mouth bro

viral creek
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1 call + teabag + nest

cyan flame
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Same with a run away call vs a back me up call, or friendly vs neutral, or threaten vs submissive

lament thorn
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did I say only english speakers can play??

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no I did not

shell garnet
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No but you said you shouldnt nest with people that you cannot comunucate

cyan flame
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Like I said, I'd like to see more calls in general, for better communication, though as long as basic chatting leads to your death ingame, I guess calls dont matter at all, since everyone uses discord anyway xD

shell garnet
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so who they will nest with

lament thorn
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people they can communicate with

umbral prairie
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all the calls you suggested aren't useless, but unneeded imo

shell garnet
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Yea for example

outer nebula
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no they said " dont nest with people you dont talk to"

shell garnet
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im russian

cyan flame
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Agreed on unneeded, that's fair Recode

viral creek
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Ok but in all seriousness though. Mating call ain't needed. Placing a nest is enough to communicate that you want to nest

cyan flame
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I never said they were needed, but I would say they're useful/helpful

shell garnet
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im grouping up with people all day to find a russian player

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???

cyan flame
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And I can see a point of having them, its fine if you don't, but I think it would be nice, just as I woiuld like to see gestures

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So you could hunt, wiothout giving yourself away in a chat f call

shell garnet
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There is a reason why we have calls fam

cyan flame
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Instead have head gestures, I think that would be amazing for utahs xD

lament thorn
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you are talking english right now??

cyan flame
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But then I don't think using outside things like discord should be a thing/needed :p

shell garnet
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Are tou talking english right now? is that what you wanted to say?

cyan flame
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So my calls/suggestions are of course oriented towards not needing to talk to someone outside first before playing with them

outer nebula
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if you guys are going to argue and bicker take it in dms

lament thorn
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no I said what I wanted to say

shell garnet
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We are discussing doc

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as you can see its a "Discussion Chat"

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so anyways

lament thorn
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I said maybe only nest with people you can talk to and all of a sudden you are talking about how you are russian so can only play with other russians despite talking english fine here

shell garnet
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calls are necessary

lament thorn
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no they arent

shell garnet
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Alright

lament thorn
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can play an entire lifecyle without calling once

shell garnet
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You dont use them then

lament thorn
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didnt say that

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stop putting words in my mouth

cyan flame
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They're not neccesary but would be a nice addition and does have uses, is that fair enough? :p

shell garnet
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Calls are necessary

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For semi-realism servers

cyan flame
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Nah you can communicate with body language only to be fair

final sundial
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Who cares about semi-realism

shell garnet
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Half of the community

lament thorn
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actual game > 'realism' servers

shell garnet
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actually

cyan flame
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Though speaking of that, I'd like to see more gestures as well, especially since it's strange to coordinate a hunt in ingame chat what with F calls :p

outer nebula
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um news flash this is based on the official servers they balance to "OFFICIAL GAME PLAY"

final sundial
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Keep telling yourself that

cyan flame
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Doesnt need realism to have use for calls though? :p

final sundial
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Oh shit i cant wait to fortnite dance as my dino

cyan flame
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Again, thats.. comparable you think? ^^

shell garnet
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You guys realise Nycta and Asura servers hold more than half of the people currently online?

outer nebula
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so

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those are private servers

lament thorn
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your point?

viral creek
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I think new calls are cool and all, but like... is it really worth the effort considering they'd need to make it for every dinosaur + their lifecycle + variations of the call?

final sundial
#

What gestures do we have currently that we need "more"

cyan flame
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If you don't have any actual arguments beyond "it's unneccesary" thats fine, but that doesn't really say much on how useful/good the idea itself is

outer nebula
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they can do what ever they want

drowsy field
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That says a lot about the community then kappa

shell garnet
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wHo cArEs sEmI rEaLzm sErVerS

cyan flame
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Lorantec, oh I could see quite snaps, head gestures like "Go ahead" or similar, things you'd expect from a pack of utahs or something sneaking, looking at each other, communicating silently on what to do

lament thorn
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putting time and money into something that is unnecessary and could easily go unused by lots of players is just a waste

cyan flame
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Of course, you could always just sit in VC in discord

viral creek
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I mean they're not wrong. When suggesting something, it should be made with official servers in mind.

final sundial
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Just. Wait. For. Mods.

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Simple

cyan flame
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Heh, so now it's fine to let modders do the job.. xD

outer nebula
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yeah what gulp said

cyan flame
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I'll keep that one in mind, thanks!

shell garnet
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Currently Nycta isle server has 8000+ people

cyan flame
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I don't, however, think that modders should fix something that I figure should be in the base game, it's fine if you don't think it should, but hey, that's where we disagree then

outer nebula
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so

final sundial
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Its not fixing something, not having your calls isnt being broken

cyan flame
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If you're happy with the current limited calls/"gestures" thats fine, but Im not

shell garnet
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and all nycta servers are semi realism

cyan flame
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Fine, modders adding things that should be in the game then

shell garnet
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hmhmhmhh

cyan flame
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Instead of "fixing"

final sundial
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Nycta dondiLUL

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So you want it so it should be in the game

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K then

lament thorn
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'should'

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bro

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no

shell garnet
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No

final sundial
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Gj

shell garnet
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Its a suggestion

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as i said

outer nebula
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No offense to anthomina and is servers, but thats not how the game works, spend a day in official servers then you change your mind

cyan flame
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Lorantec, well yes? Thats reasonable no? If you want something you probably do think it should be that way? Somehow, that's wrong now?

final sundial
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Erik said it should, i wasnt talking to you

shell garnet
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Ive played +400 hours on offical servers.

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people kos

cyan flame
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Otherwise, why do we have suggestions, if not cause we're suggesting things we think should be this way or that?

outer nebula
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so

final sundial
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LMAO

shell garnet
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people kill each other

final sundial
#

KOS

outer nebula
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SOOOOOOO

final sundial
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People shouldnt kill eachother?

shell garnet
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kos yes

outer nebula
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its a bloody survival game people are allowed to kill each other

cyan flame
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Well, "survival" :p

shell garnet
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you think in semi realism servers we dont kill?

cyan flame
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Currently we really do have delayed deathmatch rather than survival :p

final sundial
#

Again, who cares about semi-realism?

shell garnet
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isnt it a bit fked up when a rex kills 7 allos ?

outer nebula
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nope

cyan flame
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Heh, isn't affinity somewhat like semirealism in some ways? :D

shell garnet
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Ruining all of their day for 3 seconds of fun?

final sundial
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Just dont get caught by the rex GG EZ

cyan flame
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Will be interesting to see

outer nebula
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if the allos are dumb enough to continue to fight a rex thats their fault

barren zephyr
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bruh

lament thorn
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if a rex manages to kill 7 allos he deserves the reward of their bodies

manic ibex
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^

shell garnet
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Mabe all allos resting next to each other

cyan flame
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Now you're kind of going offtopic, unless there's a suggestion concerning that? :p

shell garnet
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and rex successfully ambushes and 1 shots all of them

outer nebula
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yet again thats their fault not the rex

lament thorn
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pay attention then

shell garnet
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you think offical servers are better?

barren zephyr
#

🍵

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yes

outer nebula
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yes\

lament thorn
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yes

final sundial
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So what youre saying is you dont like how the game is meant to be played @shell garnet

valid zephyr
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That's an issue of collisions. All dinos can sit in the same space.

manic ibex
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KoS is an excuse made up for people who can't accept their own mistakes.

cyan flame
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Currently official servers arent much survival, but we'll get there :p

valid zephyr
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allowing the rex to one shot them all

shell garnet
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then why 90% of the people play unofficial?

drowsy field
barren zephyr
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bruh

shell garnet
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while officals are not full

barren zephyr
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pepega

lament thorn
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90% ah yes

final sundial
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because babies want to be baby'd

shell garnet
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tell me

lament thorn
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where are your sources

shell garnet
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90% mabe more

cyan flame
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Or because people don't want a deatmatch? xD

barren zephyr
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maybe* btw

manic ibex
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or maybe 20%

drowsy field
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because the little timmy's need to be babied and get their milfs to pay for their dinos

shell garnet
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Lollll

barren zephyr
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valhalla holy shit

shell garnet
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Go count its isnt that hard

manic ibex
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See? I just throw random numbers like you

barren zephyr
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Milfssas

final sundial
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Its not birdbath simulator, maybe you bought the wrong game Kappa

drowsy field
shell garnet
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Go click offical servers only on filter

cyan flame
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It shouldnt be deathmatch either Lorantec

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Not if its supposed to be survival

shell garnet
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and see how many people are playong offical

valid zephyr
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I play officials all the time. EU-1 is full tons

cyan flame
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To be fair, only eu1 and us1 seems full

shell garnet
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and then count how many are playing unofficial

cyan flame
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eu2/3 are dead :/

final sundial
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Its deathmatch currently becaue there are no updates

cyan flame
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No

barren zephyr
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i play officials way more

valid zephyr
cyan flame
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Its deathmatch cause we dont have much survival focused things

shell garnet
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PLEASE CALCULATE

cyan flame
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With affinity, and possibly other stuff, we'll probably see more survival and less "run around and kill everything"

shell garnet
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All officals

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Haha

barren zephyr
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i mean what

cyan flame
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And then we got the population cap/issue vs ai xD

shell garnet
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delete fast

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90% unofficial

lilac swallow
#

"More people play on unofficial" maybe because there are also only 6 official servers while there are much more unofficials servers?

barren zephyr
#

no

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^

shell garnet
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Yeah

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mabe because

cyan flame
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Well, official has died out, but then I doubt thats cause of unofficials and more the update drought

shell garnet
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3 of the 6 servers are completely empty

cyan flame
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Which might mean that unofficials might offer more of an experience for now.. :p

outer nebula
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for one of them is not listed

lilac swallow
#

Ok, now calling people retard?

cyan flame
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Well, Doc, eus are

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And still two out of three are pretty dead I think

shell garnet
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Eu 1 is full

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2 is average 25%

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3 empty

outer nebula
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you talking to me legendary?

cyan flame
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No, to John who called someone that

manic ibex
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Then deleted it because of a lack of balls

lilac swallow
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@outer nebula no, John just said retards the deleted the comment

cyan flame
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Considering it wasnt appropriate to say, he should have deleted it :p

barren zephyr
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plebian time peepoWeirdD

cyan flame
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No baiting Tox, it doesn't make you look better ^^

shell garnet
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Im spitting out facts yall are just acting like im lyin

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Go check

barren zephyr
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youre nuts bro

shell garnet
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ok boomer

cyan flame
#

In all honesty, why are we discussing unofficial vs official server popularity, far as I know, both versions have their pros and cons anyway, and in any case, it's not related to a suggestion so

lament thorn
#

did you just assume our ages

shell garnet
#

how old ru

lilac swallow
#

Recurring to personal attacks uh?

shell garnet
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i said boomer

barren zephyr
#

ok zoomer

lilac swallow
#

And also said retard or you just forgot?

shell garnet
#

i said retard to joe

barren zephyr
#

yikes

lilac swallow
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Idc

barren zephyr
#

mate

lilac swallow
#

You still said retard

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I dont care if It was aimed to me

outer nebula
#

okay lets keep it clean people

lilac swallow
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👍

shell garnet
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Im here just saying calls are necessary

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you came from nowhere

cyan flame
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Yes please, and focus on the suggestions would be nice too! Since that's what we're here for :p

lament thorn
#

when they arent

outer nebula
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they are necessary just not a mating call

cyan flame
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But it's as useful as the other calls, and just as "unneccesary" in an sense

lament thorn
#

I mean no

cyan flame
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Why you're all so opposed to it makes no sense

shell garnet
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Hes just a no man

lament thorn
#

calls are time and money for the devs

outer nebula
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because there is not practical us for it other then you want it on a semi realism server thats why

cyan flame
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There is though

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I've explained the use

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And it has nothing to do with the kind of server

shell garnet
#

Alrgiht

lament thorn
#

a mating call probs wont even be used by a lot of people and will just be a joke to the majority and so its not needed

shell garnet
#

noone got the point

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im out

outer nebula
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i understand variations in calls but why make 2 of the same call

lament thorn
#

cause there wasnt a point

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theres nothing for us to get

shell garnet
#

what you call same doc

cyan flame
#

If they're variations Doc, they're.. not the same?

shell garnet
#

the 2 call and the mating?

barren zephyr
#

ok bud

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but what the hell you mean with mating mechanics?

manic ibex
#

oh no your suggestion is gone

outer nebula
#

well to be honest there is no point in discussing this point because you think one way and we think another ways. i been playing this game since it was released and found the the 4 calls do just fine as they are

shell garnet
#

Go read before coming here just to judge

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really up in this char mio

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chat*

barren zephyr
#

pepega

lilac swallow
#

You need call 2 and 3, to show you are friendly or agressive to any dino as you cant chat with dinos that arent the same as yours, call 4 because when you are getting chased is faster just 4 calling than writing "help", call 1 because It has a lot of range
But mating call is unnecesary as you only will mate with your own kind, you arent in a hurry(like for 4 call) and you cant mate at long distance, all these motives making chat enought

cyan flame
#

Thing is, theres a difference between friendly and neutral

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Difference between aggressive and submissive

shell garnet
#

UHM

cyan flame
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Difference between danger and help me

shell garnet
#

Does anyone realise

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Officials dont have global chat?

outer nebula
#

yes

barren zephyr
#

real shit

outer nebula
#

but we have group and local

cyan flame
#

If they had, then calls would be less useful :p

shell garnet
#

and 2 call doesnt have a good range

barren zephyr
#

2 call to be friendly is enough then u group

cyan flame
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Group thats currently working in a dumb way, and requires either asking on discord, or just randomly invite for that matter

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And local is short range

barren zephyr
#

and talk

shell garnet
#

Fam

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What if they are far

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not in local range

barren zephyr
#

uh

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roam???

cyan flame
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I suppose we ought to give up, they're fine with the bother of doing one step at a time, whereas Im not, and I guess you're not either, so.. xD

lilac swallow
#

If they are far you just need to meet them first

cyan flame
#

Which is a bother that could be avoided by clearer communication :p

shell garnet
#

Yea what if they are there to fk you up? 1 call doent mean friendly

barren zephyr
#

or u thinking u can sit at docks and wait for a female raptor to just zoom by after mating calls? PEPEGAAAAAA

shell garnet
#

doesnt

cyan flame
#

Wouldn't that be the point of broadcast in general mio, you broadcast and either move to the response, or hope the response comes to you? :p

valid zephyr
#

1 call is just a general being loud call. doesn't mean anything

barren zephyr
#

but you roam

valid zephyr
#

apart from telling every dino near where you are

barren zephyr
#

and dont stay at the same place

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all the time

cyan flame
#

But why would you roam? xD

barren zephyr
#

ah yes

shell garnet
#

1 call is loud and attracts both genders.

cyan flame
#

Nah, I tend to stay in the same area, I prefer finding a good spot to live in and do just that

lilac swallow
#

If one Broadcast and someone Broadcast back is almost guarantee that both want to meet

barren zephyr
#

gettibg spoon fed by ai im guessing?

cyan flame
#

I hunt if things happen to come by that are suitable for hunting

shell garnet
#

Meet to fight? Pair up?

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You cant be sure

cyan flame
#

I can't help that most things favour the docks, twins, or some few other spots that I don't think make good homes most of the time :p

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To meet up in general I would assume

shell garnet
#

ive got killed alot trying to find a pair in official servers

lilac swallow
#

You know, if someone wanted to fight he would go to you to fight even if you use the mate call

cyan flame
#

Of course, calls can be used however

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That's not really an argument against them? :p

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Cause you can do the same with broadcast/any call already xD

digital nest
#

you don’t need calls to ask people to bang your dino, if they’re that type they’ll just spam broadcast and then talk in local dondiLUL

shell garnet
#

No but if you dont get a opposite gender reply to your call you could just continue

cyan flame
#

sigh It's not needed, it's a useful call, as would my other alternatives be, for being clear in intent, nothing more, nothing less

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Why do you people get stuck on the "need"

barren zephyr
#

it simply would be a waste

cyan flame
#

There are very few things we "need", and probably a fair more that are fun/useful/quality of life, and so on

digital nest
#

because it seems unnecessary

shell garnet
#

Yea agree erik

barren zephyr
#

ah yes

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dino fuck rps

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what we need.......