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10m deino is fine
Deinos are ambush predators.
who the hell said 28 foot deino
you're the one who wants a 39 foot deino
Eventually word spreads about Deinosuchus in that lake.
Dinos stop coming.
Deinos most likely won't be able to sustain their numbers off fish.
So instead they go to a different lake that has another deino
Will there even be flooding?
I don't think staying in one place your entire life is fun.
Especially when you heavily rely on things to come to you.
Say I was a Deinosuchus at...I dunno, Twins.
This is just for example.
The point of ambush dinos is to sit and wait in one place
They are typically slower
rely on high pop areas
A herd passes through and suddenly I snag one of the herd members.
Herd members fuck off because they know there are Deinosuchus in the water and it isn't safe.
Suddenly no more food.
Thats fine
Then those herds tell their friends on Discord.
since you have a whole body which will last a while
And almost everyone steers clear from the lake.
And if deinos have slow metabolism like typical crocs...
They can still starve.
Point is at some point they're going to want to move around.
Because the most exciting bit about a Deinosuchus's gameplay is the ambush.
But they won't be able to get that ambush if nobody is around TO ambush.
So essentially you'll be sitting in the water with nothing to do for hours.
It's like sitting in a bath tub.
But you don't have toys, bubbles or even music and some candles if you're into that.
Plus the water is cold.
It gets stale.
I wouldn't be surprised if the new maps will have rivers connecting the big-ish lakes together allowing Deino to migrate without going on land tbh
that way Deino isn't forced to migrate on land if it doesn't want to
Deino won't have to worry about literally anything. All it has to do is grab hold of a leg and then roll
But deino won't be able to death roll :(
im gonna laugh when deino is obvious as hell because of clear water everywhere
Gee i wonder where I should drink from in this lake
😂 😂 😂
Deino thinking is super camo and lurks around for prey , but herbis see it as clear as day
@past valve there is going to be a way point system in some way im not 100% sure how tho
Ok
@outer lion Acrocanthosaurus neeeds so much more than just a new model and some changed stats, every playable that's added to survival needs some kind of gimmick or mechanic, and as it currently stands Acrocanthosaurus' niche is pretty much taken up by Giga, so you'd need to think outside the box.
damn. You're right
400 heal sitting is higher then gigas 350ish
iirc
if it keep the stam (i hope not) then 35km is good but
then allo is gonna get hunted alot
34.4km for allo
well if giga (in the giga rework) it becomes a sauropod hunter then acro can by a mid hunter much to a lot of peoples hatred for giga rn
acro can do it but as the mid tier variant
Mid tier hunter is such a broad term.
also 5,000 instead of 5,500 health would do
It'd still need some kind of unique ability or quality.
rex has bb what does any other dino have?
ok
See where I am going with this?
yes
What can Acro do that's any different?
well this talk don't matter acro gonna be AI
i don't like it but
thats what they doing
ok
Come up with a valid reason to make it a playable.
But nope, the moment the word AI is uttered, all hope is lost.
i would love acro survival
i do have stats and abilities that i would give every dino (even not in the isle)
yeah ok but you would really need an reason to be a playable
well yeah jaffad is right thats how dondi thinks sooo thats how we have to think
soooo 0% chance of tarbosaurus
acro looks different from the other dinos sooo it gets a pass but it really doesn't offer much
yeah
tell me, what makes it different?
you just keep saying you just want int
but thats it
whats the reason behind it
then i said its gonna be AI
to add a dino
did you not read what i typed?
yes, it seems like you want acro
but know its prolly going to be AI
so i dont get this discussion
the other guy wanted acro i say i loved the idea
ah ye
i read that
i didnt?
if you think im hostile, thats honestly your problem.
yeah you dont get. people want acro
no me and the other guy were talking then you butted in
but only say bc they just simply want it
give no niche, no intresting thigns for the dino
that are not smilar to giga alrdy
or any other dino
tldr, acro is unneccessary
i said giga is getting a rework so if acro was gonna be playable it can pick up were giga left and be the mid tier hunter but as a mid tier itself
its never gonna happen
ye
thats my point
ah
lol
This is still going on?
@outer lion acro would be good with 5,000 health, 500 damage and 20 bleed with 35 secs of stam and 35km/h i think this sounds good and 400 down to 250 healing while sitting as gigas is about 350
and no im just trying to actually talk about the suggestion and make some improvements apon it
kay then
bc you know the suggestion is a big if that will never happen and its just nice to talk about "IF"s
why not?
i mean. its supposed to be pseudo apex
still gets smacked but sucho
where my small tier talk at 
has it should really if its faster then sucho then sucho should out turn it
we can go to off topic and talk about small dinos
since dondi said he wanted more small dinosaurs, and announced 8 new ones, i just hope some of them are small tier
same
no more apexes plz dondi
herb apexes tho
oh yes
35kms acro
spino last one at least for a while
55 km/s acro
35km/h with shit turn
Why do ppl want faster than midtier base speed for their shitty apexes...
who knows
so?
yeah
acro has the "don't touch" me role ingame
1 bite dies from bleed*
do you want to see my acro stats? (not retaliated to the isle at all)
if so ill put it in offtopic
Itd be nice for Acros stats to fit its size more 👍
You wouldn't need the filter if you didn't get banned Nah I'm jk that's a really good idea
@barren zephyr I'm all for giving options for those with difficult hearing or sight, but I feel like subtitles can be abused, specifically on the range it would pick up on certain sounds, let's say someone is playing and doesn't hear a dinosaur call because they're distracted or it's so far way it mixes with the ambience, but they are notified of the sound because of the subtitles.
You could argue that issue can be solved by only picking up on incredibly obvious sounds, but then the feature has very limited use.
Just my thoughts.
Ah I didn’t think of that, thank you
Hmm
well a possible solution could be that things at that range arent identifiable
Or have have multiple dinos that it could be
Or something
It’s fine lol, I’ll wing the game like I am now 😂
I think its a great idea to have it accessible for people who are hard of hearing
Its just hard to balance
Yeah but if it doesn’t work awell, was a good idea 🙂
Subtitles are really abuseable, Overwatch added them and every pro player is using them despite not needing them because they give a lot of information
Yeah thats the big issue with it. Theres no way to have them without it being strictly better than the actual sound
esp in a game where sneaking up on shit is so important
Bushes can rustle without anything rustling them, but footsteps only happen when something is walking, subtitles make stealth nearly impossible.
on another note of stealth, the footsteps suggestion. I would love an option to maybe even be able to mute your own footsteps
when I'm trike I turn my volume way down because the constant thundering of my thickness is deafening
While each player is different, I've found it's a lot easier to sneak up on a trike compared to a shant (shants have a different footstep sound and it's a lot quieter) and I would credit this entirely to the footsteps, with the footsteps either being louder than me or them turning their volume down
Subtitles also ruin the suspense of the game by not knowing what made that certain sound, I love the mysteriousness around the whole island with strange sounds here and there
@barren zephyr I'm super pro that idea. I really struggle to play carni due to my hearing and lack of directional sound (though even using my decent headset I still can't hear the AI). Subtitles and little direction indicators would make life so much nicer for hard of hearing people. People with good hearing can hear a single AI call half a km away in dense forest, then turn and run straight to it.
I don't think it should tell you the actual dino call though. Should just tell you what the noise is so you still have to learn it. (aka dibble 1 call is: bwbrbrbrbrbrb)
Yeah that’s a good idea 😃
Maybe crouch walking would cause no subtitles to be generated and no direction indicators, so you can't see when a dino is sneaking up.
Yes sneaking would have no sound
Dibble 1 call: bwrbrbrbrbrb
Allo 1 call: aaarrrrgggghhhh
Utah 1 call: BORK
Stuff like that so it doesn't tell you the actual dino.
Yes and you cant hear crouched sounds or anything that gives it away but still gives you the suspense of the game without giving out location of the sound to much
Would show vibrations in the corner of the screen, and the closer you are to the noise the more focused they would be, so you still have to home in on the sound and don't get a perfect indicator.
or at least reduces the range things show up
I love the sound indicator idea!!
can we just appreciate the accuracy of the calls depicted
AAAAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHH
BORK
I should have added the ava I heard, but not sure what they say.
Keeping the noises as just their described sounds will give you the same amount of info hearing players get.
How about, with that idea you had @valid zephyr , those green things pointing out sounds were distortions on the screen that took a sharp eye to see? Such as what you'd see when heat comes off of pavement in the distance, or "fake water". Just a bit of a blur shaking around at the top of the screen - makes it easy for someone paying attention to see sounds being made, but to those just chatting it up, it keeps the stealthy things stealthy
not sure how to differentiate between herbi or carni calls though
That could work too, maybe the louder the noise the more obvious they are.
Exactly
Aka if a rex 1 calls 2metres behind you, they're not subtle.
Yes! and it can be in the direction heard
to someone who can hear, it'd be annoying, but to someone who has trouble, it could be a lifesaver
somone who could hear would never turn the option on in the first place.
I imagine you would have to go into the menu and hit the checkbox.
@barren zephyr Well that just ruins the game
It was just a thought
It ruins the aspect of the game
The game won’t be scary or challenging at all.
something big calls Oh wait that’s just a para lmfao lemme go kill it
Well it helps the people who can’t hear actually play the game
Instead, something big calls Oh wow, let me go inspect it.
Pretty sure there isn’t deaf people
And if there is they would suggest it.
Um your talking to one bro
Oh, I’m sorry.
It heaps with learning where the sound comes from and such
It’s okay but remember it might not be for you but it would be so helpful for me
Yeah I understand.
All good though, just a thought 🙂 I like the game how it is just don’t know if my heart can take turning around and seeing something in my face I didn’t hear coming 😂
But all well 🙂
@valid flower we already came up with an alternate idea where the sound is labelled how it sounds, rather than what dino it is
which means deaf players would still need to learn the sounds
aka an anky calls means you would just see "Honk"
on the screen
rather than it saying "Anky 1 call"
So pretty much more learning of the game to learn the sounds you hear, I need to learn the sounds displayed. So you can hear a giga and know it’s a giga by the call, I see the giga sound (no idea what sound) and have a list of what it could be and narrow it down til I see it
I really like these ideas, I hope the dev team takes a look 🙂 excited for the recode 🙂
Pin me if this idea comes up again 🙂
it would be really nice if it was combined with jenkens' concept for it + a checkbox in settings so you can turn it off if you don't need it and in servers like deathmatch or sandbox where everyone spam calls
yeah a settings checkbox would be essential, with it off by default
not everyone likes screen clutter
i'm just picturing a utah F-call as being a simple "bork" and the 1-call broadcast being "BORK", in big letters and the word shakes
maybe the word gets bigger and starts to shake the closer the call is?
also
"somone who could hear would never turn the option on in the first place."
they might turn it on just to have that extra indication of which direction calls are coming from. Maybe if their headphones are bad or if directional sound doesn't work
or as a hackery exploit thing
That is why the furthur away the sound is, the mosre loose the sound indicator would be. A far off sound might only display which 45 degrees it's coming from
@cyan flame now wants to hear our text interpretations of all the dino calls. :/
Utah 3 call: "Hisss"
well allo is easy
1-call = AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH
AAAARRRRRGGGGGGHHHHH
Can you blame me? xD
Comrade Jenkens, #HerbiRights:Dibble 1 call: bwrbrbrbrbrb
Allo 1 call: aaarrrrgggghhhh
Utah 1 call: BORK
Of course I want to see the rest of your speech to text calls :p
nu AAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGHHHHHHH is the allo 3-call
You only have yourself to blame for making hilarious interpretations xD
velo 1-call
"skuh-REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"
Theri: ttthhhhRRRREEEEEEEEEEE
re: dino footsteps, i've mentioned before that large animals are actually really quiet (usually b/c of skin/fat beneath the feet). Elephants can actually creep right up on a man without being heard. They set their feet down gently; stomping would destroy joints/bones. Vibrations aren't even needed; just make all footfalls quieter!
To be fair, the main problem with the thundering footsteps is that there's this explosive sound every time you walk on the grass(water has it to some extent as well) however whenever you're on some other type of terrain the footsteps seem fine imo(the problem is that the vast majority of the maps is well... grass)
my suggestion was mysteriously deleted.
Probably because it was just a one-liner that gave no actual reasons for being implemented?
maybe so.
Correct.
can't really think of any other reason other than gigas are apexes and it would be kind of unfair to bar giga players from having magnas.
It's a lore creature. Not an equal rights for animals benefit.
^
where in the lore does it explicitly state gigas cannot mutate into magnas
Where did it say that magnas were mutated into?
^ Not to mention not every creature has to have a Magna counterpart, those specific creatures may be more important to the "lore" than others.
true, but considering this game's track record, you'd think magna would just be another strain
well then i was wrong, and thank you for clearing up my misconceptions
Best to just keep in mind that we don't know anything about strains and magnas except what the devs want us to know, and that so far is very very little
Literally everything that's been said about them except what's come from the devs' mouth is speculative at best
i guess we'll just have to wait and see
"SANDBOX"
herra and alberto has been updated in sandbox before, fixed model for alberto and damage buff for herra.
Sandbox dinosaurs can be updated and you survival people are not making any sense.
@shell garnet i would say if they spam bite it should use stamina, would make players have to be more strategic in their bites instead of just alt turn spam biting and letting the bite drag do all the work, plus it would suck to leave a player completely defenseless no matter the dino
@barren zephyr hell, camara is a sandbox dino and it just got a whole new round of animations 
never got the "iT's SAnDBoX" argument
The argument is simple: it's not in survival :. it's low priority. It's not a part of the current roster and balance. Camara had an update and it seemed like it was being prepared for being added to survival, will it be? Only time will tell.
Sandbox are animals are usually a very low priority, besides I think people are forgetting that the game is currently going through an overhaul, so there's literally zero point in updating the stats of any of the animals.
Why bother wasting time on balancing something that isnt playable?
If its only playable on a "mess around" sandbox Mode It isnt playable
So, if it is a playable then it isn't a playable?
You would be quite surprised to see the number of people that are actually playing in sanbox in maps like V3 and Thenyaw.
As we know, all dinosaurs are getting a rework, or almost.
We know that allosaurus is one of the reworked dinosaur so maybe it will have a model more like that with this pattern.
However, different patterns are something to do in this game for variety!
@valid elk Crocodiles bury their nests underground.
Their eggs are very nutritious to all kinds of animals, so they cannot afford to leave their nests laying around for all to see.
I should probably change that then
Yeah.
A mound of dirt with eggs hidden under seems a bit...much
Yeah, they make sure to cover the nest like turtles do
They make their nest look unassuming, but monitor lizards, birds, baboons, and other animals can tell when mama croc isn't hovering around her nest and even harass her until she has no choice to go back into the water because she is overheating.
Their eggs are pretty tasty by animal standards, which is kind of sad.
Then again, they do lay a ton of eggs
80 at most for the Nile croc.
honest to god that allo posted as a suggestion w/ the spikes looks half-hypo half-not. lowkey looks fire af and i wouldn't have a single issue with it being part of the game.
that's just me
i think the design is cool. lol
Imagines birth of a wish from nier playing when apexes fight. Situational music sounds great
The allo in suggestions looks like a boosted allo (hyper or magna). It looks to "advanced" or whatever you want to call it compared to the other creatures we have to be just a standard dino (just my opinion)
If that allo was hyper allo in the future with a jaw that opens 90+ degrees and acts like an axe, spiky tail, hypo scutes and plates on the back, I would enjoy that.
What do the timers mean?
they're working on what you suggested or plan on implementing it in the future already but it will take time to get there
Oh awesome
@potent sonnet i like your giga doc but i see some things that might go wrong with it
like gigas bleed was the problem for mid tiers and you keep the trot the same (trot is the big complaint) im fine with the trot but with the new attack "flesh grazing bite" seems a bit over the top
this ability can be a passive like rexes bb (but not for combat) like attacks grant small amounts of food, instead of more damage and bleed with it
Trot is more of the issue than the bleed tho
Since giga 1 shots most mid tiers
And can trot then down till the end of time
i would say nerf it to the point were its still faster then rexes trot but not what it is now and buff the base speed a bit 32ish km and not nerf the stam
i meant keep it faster then rex
If we take away the one thing that makes it an endurance pred
then why were you complaining about it?
Im not complaining about nerfing it at all. Im arguing against nerfing it to where its just slightly faster than rex
Its like
Cerato
He was nerfed to the point where he doesnt even do his job because he was too strong in the past
i only said it to please the giga haters i would like to keep the trot
i thought you were someone that hated on gigas trot and i didn't want to argue
I could be considered a giga hater, but i know that nerfing something to cerato level is not the solution
Eh I think its just a tad too fast but if only minuscule
Giga compensates by having a good trot speed, and I think its fine with how it is
^same
it is a bit too fast compared to everyother dino
Giga should have a fast trot, but i think having the second best trot is a bit too much
3rd, 4th maybe id say
dilo
Dilo
Oh
yeah
anyways my main point was the ability
the "flesh grazing bite"
it is a bit over the top
I could see it only working on sauropods
And poooosssiiiblly trike?
But that would be stretching it
if a small thing runs at you they gonna die
ether 1 shot from pure damage and if not bleed out instantly
Yup
although "IF" this does come to the game i would imagine rex not want to fight giga head on and thats not what i think they want for the match up
so the lesser approach of just like rexes ability be a passive and happen on attacks
like attacks grant small amounts of food
or lower targets bleed resistance
i think that was going to be gigas ability before they scraped it
the brace ability is fine i think if the giga could still trot
but not run
giving a 50% blunt force damage reduction (so the tail hits)
and still be able to attack along with it
paras trot should be one of the faster ones imo. To make it great at migrating.
at the moment it's a fighter not a runner. :/
At the moment its neither
It runs it dies
It fights it dies
But there have been rumors that its getting some love so fingers crossed
yeah
I’m literally maining as para even tho it succs
personally i think the only 3 current officials that should not regain stam unless sitting are trike, giga and rex
the para should have the kind of stamina and maybe even speed that the shant has
and more agility
-rex: should be an agile and really deadly fighter, i'ts main prey should be actually (sucho) para and trike, but it should be the slowest dinosaur in the whole game in every regard. and overall after the stupid damage multiplier is out of the window, the mass should be about 8 ton and health maybe a bit more. i do not even think that it should have an actual run in its regular form and the top speed at any time should be no more then 34km/hour
excuse me we get new damage sxstem and para is too slow
ah, and how does that damage system work ?any word on it?
no but weight wont be a thing anaymore in it
indeed, but still, just saying that even though weight kinda should be irrelevant, it kinda would be nice if in the stats the weight stats are somewhat realistic. i know, the devs do not care that much about it, so does most of the fan base, but still, we all know there will be people who want some things to be right
for an example, giving the rex more health then weight, simply to show like: this one is actually more robust build then most conmparable dinosaurs/is known to have sustained a lot of injuries in certain examples, but recovered from them
vs maybe an oposite example, like how the current sandbox spinosaurus is currently having its weight be more then its health
-that being said, i think the giga should have a mass of 10 ton and health of 10 000 or something, so it could counter a rex better....and have less bite force and more bleed, like currently, but in this case done balanced enough so that a giga could survive one bite without bonebreak(if that still will be implemented in some form, kinda hope it will, but not like how it is in its current format) and still deliver a bleeder bite and balance chances out for 50 percent in favor of each
as for current still in sandbox hell spinosaur:, that one should become a special variation of the "aquatic" spinosaur, since this latter one is the real deal. and i think this latter one should kinda be like the current sandbox spino, evenly matched against the giga(and once balanced, also the rex) albeit be slower and less agile, but just be a fast swimmer
overall this would make the spino dinosaur of the lake, the rex the dinosaur of thenot so dense forests and the giga be more of a dinosaur that lives in the open(if it gets more speed, less agility and more stam then the rex that is)
in the mean time i think the acro, should kinda be a bit like the current giga(a lot of stam, capable of speed beyond the 37-39km/hour barrier), but with less health and thus also a lot less bite force, and kinda be the non toxic dilophosaurus of the apexes, and have excelent nightvision compared to the actual 3 apexes
and before i rant to much, the devs might disagree, but not having the shantungosaurus as a playable dinosaur is a waste. If the stamina should compare to that of the trike and the stomp should do not more damage then what is needed to kill an apex, it seems fair game to me, especially since the shant would not have bleed
And make it slower
I mean current shant is as fast as allo in a straight line with allo being like 0.5 km/h faster
@fresh pelican for your third suggestion, that would be easily abused; it has been in the past. a while ago people would alt-f4 the game, shut down their computer or disconect their internet to immediately poof when getting attacked, and the server would roll back their dino by like 2 minutes, so they would do that to combat log, or during long fights to insta-heal their dinos and jump back into the battle. I'm not saying people with crappy internet should be punished for something beyond their control, but if they have an advantage becuase if slow or patchy connections, other players will find a way to abuse that advantage.
You bring up a good point, I hadn't thought about that, nor had I known that a similar mechanic had been abused in the past. Wasn't really thinking when I posted that, but i agree that could very easily be abused. Nvm then lol
@proven bolt ai literally spawns next to players. It should be easy as hell finding ai because it spawns based on the player's hunger. If you're having issues finding ai it is not the game's fault. Not like it's supposed to be easy growing an apex anyway, so i dont see a problem if people are having trouble growing them.
Ai also screams for you to come munch its ass so seriously, if you cant find ai you need to get better at recognizing it.
Yeah if it don’t spawn in a whole hour of playing the game like you here no tacos no Ava’s for a whole hour something must be up if nothing spawns for a whole hour
What's the player cap of the server you play on
Yeah theres your issue
And I get that 200 is a lot there’s your food there but you get in trouble for hunting those people on the servers so you can’t do shit the only thing you can eat is ai but it doesn’t spawn
Current ai, because someone couldnt write proper code, kinda gets fucked up past 100-110 i think players. Playing on higher cap servers will fuck up the ai. Ai's gonna work a lot different post-recode so it wont be spawning by players anymore so it wont be relying on players to spawn
So you wont be waiting ages for ai to spawn near you. You'll just have to look for it properly
LOL "its so hard for any juvie apex to grow" is this for real
I can see how it'd be hard if the ai doesnt spawn properly but personally i really dont see a problem with someone having trouble growing a rex or giga
That’s because you don’t like it when they kill you but I’m not one of those Apex is that hunt down players I preferred to hunt down the AI to eat because I like to give players the ability to grow as well but I can’t do that without ai spawning so thank God it will be better in recode
Uhh i actually dont give a shit if i get killed by an apex but i do care when they end up being 70-80% of a server because it is the most unbalanced ecosystem ever
👌
"you get in trouble for hunting those people on the servers"
how are you...supposed to...survive as carni...?

imagine playing on a server where hunting is against the rules
then acting like the lack of food is the game's fault
also choosing to play as an apex carnivore while also not wanting to hunt players is kinda hmmm
Yea when you have like 200 people online ai spawns get a bit whack but you can deal with this. If you start to starve you can log out and log back in either at a lower player count or just after the server restarts. 9 times out of 10 you will get ai spawning in the first minute
Just forget it if you guys are going to put me down I don’t fucking care just drop it
People are putting you down for giving a bad suggestion that fixes a problem that doesn’t exist.
Any problems you seem to be having with apex seem to be entirely self imposed
(You don’t want to hunt as a carnivore, playing on a server that prohibits hunting).
You can easily fix those problems by finding a better server and choosing to hunt players.
People have offered you easy solutions and yet you still act as if there is a problem.
Like what are people supposed to do? Tell you “yeah you’re playing the faction that’s designed to hunt players but if you don’t want to do the one thing your faction is meant to do you get rewarded with a free apex.”
Like if you don’t want to hunt players herbivores will be far more suited to your playstyle. If you don’t want to do the things that carnivores are designed to do then you simply don’t have to play carnivore
I mean- some gore shouldn’t be eaten by some creatures. Not that they couldn’t irl, but some folks are only able to hold out on yhe gore they find
There should be random sized gores spawing around the map. That would solve this problem.
And we sure need bigger ai. Mabe a dibble ai or a maia ai
@shell garnet Keep it to serious suggestions only. Your extra comments were not needed.
2 is your mating call. Use it. As for mating mechanics, i cant think of any ones that wouldnt be.. absolutely bad
This dude
Postin fuckin jesus and an irradiated chicken
cmon guys
in the game you just lay eggs out of thin air
@frail sigil you could've just delete the unnecessary comment but not the whole suggestion. It was all family friendly material :/
With the joke comments I considered it to be a troll suggestion. If you wish to repost it without any comments I will allow it but this is a warning.
Males will be involved in the future but any actual "mating" will not happen
It just wont
I dont see a need for anything more than nest making
They will
They'll be involved in nest making and poppin out babies in the future. Shit aint gonna change right now though
Like what
@shell garnet people been trying and the verdict is noooooooooooo
They dont do anything but smoosh their faces together and i doubt dinos are gonna be doing that
Is either porn or straight up just (like your Minecraft example) Pink Hearts floating everywhere
@outer nebula wouldnt it be great tho
why dude
because why would that be needed for a game for survival
Is a progress, at least he dont really want Dino porn like most mating suggesters
Its absolutely uneccessary and if i was bryan i'd hate myself having to make that
There could be an option when you and your pair "mate calls"
Like
F to Fertilize
no animation needed fam
Or we could just stick to the nest
And not deal with mating calls or whatever
Or "fertilization"
lol
intense lewd staring contest
Just have them work in a nest
start making a dirt pile
Hell yeah id love to make a dirt pile with my boyfriend
we aint dinosaurs my guy, we be mammal
Sounds great
...what is even is this discussion anymore
-Female places nest. That logs female as parent.
-Male then clicks on nest to log male as parent.
-Hatchlings can then pick their own skin by picking from the parents colours for each slot.
Im kidding jesus
nah, male makes nest, female does aboogamagooba magic and eggs spawn
Seems legit
thats what i would like to see in a realistic survival game which is supposed to make us feel like dinosaurs
but yeah
Its not supposed to be realistic.. i mean its sort of realistic cause most animals look like how they should
But this game aint realism friend
it will all change when 5 guys with ak47 chasing us
Mating calls would be useful, mating anims.. less so :p
Mating calls arent needed
Yes eric
You got chat and 2 calls
finnaly someone that understands
Chat works better
5 mating call
just use the 2 call
Eh, chat requires you to find someone first
2 call to get a friend "Hey wanna be my mate?" There we go
Yeah except friendly is a bit more.. diverse than just that
Damn fat fingers
different pitched 2 calls for each sex is the most I would include and it's pushing it
how can they understand if you just want to share food or fricc
Just type in chat "want to place a nest?"
I'd see a use in a broadcast version mating call, there's a difference between just looking for a pack/herd, and specifically for someone else willing to nest, since I imagine nesting is costly
Well thats where the chat comes in
be male, place nest, do a dance
Zorr, something like that yes
Lol
ladies cant resist
haha
Say "hey join my nest" or whatever the fuck itll be in the future
But fam
The idea is to let someone know "I am male/female and looking for a nesting partner" vs "I exist and am looking for a pack/herd"
Mating call is a special thing
you know what i mean
then find someone first before decided if you want to nest with them?
1 call to get friends, say in chat
''I REQUIRE A MATING PARTNER''
in ALL documentaries you will hear a mating call
and?

this is not a sim this is a survival game people try to learn the difference
not all animals make mating calls though...
I mean sure, you could broadcast, find someone, then ask everyone you find of the right gender if they want to nest but.. :p I just figure it would be easier, but then I'd also like a difference between friendly/neutral, and threaten/submissive, and danger/back up calls so
i bet dinosaurs used to tho
I want more calls/variations in general to be more specific in what you're trying to say :p And less chat in general, especially since chat right now = noise = everyone uses discord anyway xD
we are Discussing which is this chat is for
well, in the words of dondi:
''I get it. You people want shit, piss and fucking.''
so I doubt we'll get anything more than what I mentioned above
What does it matter what dinosaurs used to do or whats in documentaries
The 4 calls we have now are kind of all we need though?
5*
I wouldn't say so Lorantec
These arent real dinosaurs theyre genetic freaks
What else is needed exactly?
Maybe PoT would be willing to add a mating call for the ERPer's 
She has a point
I mean there could be more calls that could be useful, but they aren't really needed imo
I will be a dryo and 5 call all you guys if this mating call thing becomes a thing
It wont become a thing though
just saying
Maybe people will mod things in anyway, might get a version with more calls in general
Yeah just wait for mods if you want dino fuckin
Dude
Yes, because a useful call is exactly the same as a very graphic animation right^^
i am still saying
Christ on a bike
i dont request any animations
They're not uneccesary ^^
You're just not getting the point I think xD
Just not really cool when you are born without a dad
No they're not
we have a chat
lol
You're just missing the point, or rather, you're willing to guess intent
Whereas I would like clear intent in calls
ITS NOT BECAUSE I DONT HAVE A Dad
dude
See, you think thats fine, I think it would be more useful, and easier, with more calls
nine your my hero right now XD
its just a suggesrion
write that you require a mating partner
Its not supposed to be easy 4head
So yeah.. you're entirely missing the point it seems like :p
how?
Kind of the point of the limitations
But that limitation is stupid Lorantec :p
I mean I dont understand people who nest with and nest in strangers but it still doesnt make a difference
so you guys dont want a mating call?
and you wont use it if it was in game
thats a big lie
if it was added id use it
Its just strange to me that you're fine with less rather than more communication
Imagine the sound of the docks if mating call got added...
but why should it be added
To ease communication Blue, to not have to find you first, then see if you're the right gender, then ask, and hope for the best
what's the point of it? I personally don't need a mating call when we have a broadcast, which can tell others where I am and that I want to group just as well, the nesting can easily be discussed in chat, like you still need to talk about where to nest or when anyway even with the call so it doesn't really have much of a use in my eyes
maybe I'm missing something
Thats what the comes down to for me
because i dont want to frick another weirdo at 3 am in a dinosaur game while my wife is crying in the room because that we are divorcing
Its ease of you knowing when you hear the call what that person want, so if you're interested, go that way, if not, go the other way
that is probably a guy
just, get close and talk in chat
Not supposed to be easy
I don't understand why you're opposed to clearer communication instead of going through the whole meet and greet hoping for the best :p
Survival game
... thats not an argument Lorantec :p
yes it is
how is a call clearer?
It's not "Easier to survive" cause you have better communication
then chat
No it's not Doc
literal human communication
Kind of is though? Its a survival game, not easy peasy call game
Cause calls can be heard from a distance
But calls for clearer communication does not relate to survival
people already bait with the 2 call image what they will do with the mating call
yes its why waste time on adding calls when is better to make the game with more interesting features
2 call doesnt have the best range
thats the point
It does though, you want the calls so you dont have to possibly risk a dangerous encounter, thats an easier survival experience
if for near by allies
No..
yeah because its not the broadcast
mating call can be like 1 call but with like a melody
It has nothing to do with dangerous encoutners
'cmere fuck me HAH im a cannibal'
No idea how you got that into your mind
mating call be like:
''FUUUUUCK MEEEEE''
You mentioned going through the whole meet and greet and hoping for the best, what else does that mean?
Yea for humans
I really don't see how a specific broadcast, or a specific danger call, or anything else, would be easier or harder for survival in general, especially since we have discord right now
So then why need the calls?
Yea eric
Lorantec, it means I would find it useful if I could use a broadcast, the same I would use for finding a friend in general, but with a specific intent, so anyone that hears it, but isnt interested, would know and not come find me
if someone can justify the reason for mating calls ill back them
some people dont know english well in isle and they comunicate with calls
Its the difference between me looking for a pack, vs a mate
ive seen many people
then maybe dont nest with someone you cant talk to??
Instead of broadcast - Find someone - Hope for right gender - hope they want to spend time nesting
Yea so you cant enjoy isle without knowing english. thats what you are saying
literally didnt say that at all
i know what a mating call is
You'd use a specific broadcast that tells your gender + implies "looking for nesting"
thanks for putting words in my mouth bro
1 call + teabag + nest
Same with a run away call vs a back me up call, or friendly vs neutral, or threaten vs submissive
No but you said you shouldnt nest with people that you cannot comunucate
Like I said, I'd like to see more calls in general, for better communication, though as long as basic chatting leads to your death ingame, I guess calls dont matter at all, since everyone uses discord anyway xD
so who they will nest with
people they can communicate with
all the calls you suggested aren't useless, but unneeded imo
Yea for example
no they said " dont nest with people you dont talk to"
im russian
Agreed on unneeded, that's fair Recode
Ok but in all seriousness though. Mating call ain't needed. Placing a nest is enough to communicate that you want to nest
I never said they were needed, but I would say they're useful/helpful
And I can see a point of having them, its fine if you don't, but I think it would be nice, just as I woiuld like to see gestures
So you could hunt, wiothout giving yourself away in a chat f call
There is a reason why we have calls fam
Instead have head gestures, I think that would be amazing for utahs xD
you are talking english right now??
But then I don't think using outside things like discord should be a thing/needed :p
Are tou talking english right now? is that what you wanted to say?
So my calls/suggestions are of course oriented towards not needing to talk to someone outside first before playing with them
if you guys are going to argue and bicker take it in dms
no I said what I wanted to say
I said maybe only nest with people you can talk to and all of a sudden you are talking about how you are russian so can only play with other russians despite talking english fine here
calls are necessary
no they arent
Alright
can play an entire lifecyle without calling once
You dont use them then
They're not neccesary but would be a nice addition and does have uses, is that fair enough? :p
Nah you can communicate with body language only to be fair
Half of the community
actual game > 'realism' servers
actually
Though speaking of that, I'd like to see more gestures as well, especially since it's strange to coordinate a hunt in ingame chat what with F calls :p
um news flash this is based on the official servers they balance to "OFFICIAL GAME PLAY"
Keep telling yourself that
Doesnt need realism to have use for calls though? :p
Oh shit i cant wait to fortnite dance as my dino
Again, thats.. comparable you think? ^^
You guys realise Nycta and Asura servers hold more than half of the people currently online?
your point?
I think new calls are cool and all, but like... is it really worth the effort considering they'd need to make it for every dinosaur + their lifecycle + variations of the call?
What gestures do we have currently that we need "more"
If you don't have any actual arguments beyond "it's unneccesary" thats fine, but that doesn't really say much on how useful/good the idea itself is
they can do what ever they want
That says a lot about the community then 
wHo cArEs sEmI rEaLzm sErVerS
Lorantec, oh I could see quite snaps, head gestures like "Go ahead" or similar, things you'd expect from a pack of utahs or something sneaking, looking at each other, communicating silently on what to do
putting time and money into something that is unnecessary and could easily go unused by lots of players is just a waste
Of course, you could always just sit in VC in discord
I mean they're not wrong. When suggesting something, it should be made with official servers in mind.
Heh, so now it's fine to let modders do the job.. xD
yeah what gulp said
I'll keep that one in mind, thanks!
Currently Nycta isle server has 8000+ people
I don't, however, think that modders should fix something that I figure should be in the base game, it's fine if you don't think it should, but hey, that's where we disagree then
so
Its not fixing something, not having your calls isnt being broken
If you're happy with the current limited calls/"gestures" thats fine, but Im not
and all nycta servers are semi realism
Fine, modders adding things that should be in the game then
hmhmhmhh
Instead of "fixing"
No
Gj
No offense to anthomina and is servers, but thats not how the game works, spend a day in official servers then you change your mind
Lorantec, well yes? Thats reasonable no? If you want something you probably do think it should be that way? Somehow, that's wrong now?
Erik said it should, i wasnt talking to you
Otherwise, why do we have suggestions, if not cause we're suggesting things we think should be this way or that?
so
LMAO
people kill each other
KOS
SOOOOOOO
People shouldnt kill eachother?
kos yes
its a bloody survival game people are allowed to kill each other
Well, "survival" :p
you think in semi realism servers we dont kill?
Currently we really do have delayed deathmatch rather than survival :p
Again, who cares about semi-realism?
isnt it a bit fked up when a rex kills 7 allos ?
nope
Heh, isn't affinity somewhat like semirealism in some ways? :D
Ruining all of their day for 3 seconds of fun?
Just dont get caught by the rex GG EZ
Will be interesting to see
if the allos are dumb enough to continue to fight a rex thats their fault
bruh
if a rex manages to kill 7 allos he deserves the reward of their bodies
^
Mabe all allos resting next to each other
Now you're kind of going offtopic, unless there's a suggestion concerning that? :p
and rex successfully ambushes and 1 shots all of them
yet again thats their fault not the rex
pay attention then
you think offical servers are better?
yes\
yes
So what youre saying is you dont like how the game is meant to be played @shell garnet
That's an issue of collisions. All dinos can sit in the same space.
KoS is an excuse made up for people who can't accept their own mistakes.
Currently official servers arent much survival, but we'll get there :p
allowing the rex to one shot them all
then why 90% of the people play unofficial?

bruh
while officals are not full
pepega
90% ah yes
because babies want to be baby'd
tell me
where are your sources
90% mabe more
Or because people don't want a deatmatch? xD
maybe* btw
or maybe 20%
because the little timmy's need to be babied and get their milfs to pay for their dinos
Lollll
valhalla holy shit
Go count its isnt that hard
See? I just throw random numbers like you
Milfssas
Its not birdbath simulator, maybe you bought the wrong game 

Go click offical servers only on filter
and see how many people are playong offical
I play officials all the time. EU-1 is full tons
To be fair, only eu1 and us1 seems full
and then count how many are playing unofficial
eu2/3 are dead :/
Its deathmatch currently becaue there are no updates
No
i play officials way more
EU-1
Its deathmatch cause we dont have much survival focused things
PLEASE CALCULATE
With affinity, and possibly other stuff, we'll probably see more survival and less "run around and kill everything"
i mean what
And then we got the population cap/issue vs ai xD
"More people play on unofficial" maybe because there are also only 6 official servers while there are much more unofficials servers?
Well, official has died out, but then I doubt thats cause of unofficials and more the update drought
3 of the 6 servers are completely empty
Which might mean that unofficials might offer more of an experience for now.. :p
for one of them is not listed
Ok, now calling people retard?
you talking to me legendary?
No, to John who called someone that
Then deleted it because of a lack of balls
@outer nebula no, John just said retards the deleted the comment
Considering it wasnt appropriate to say, he should have deleted it :p
plebian time 
No baiting Tox, it doesn't make you look better ^^
youre nuts bro
ok boomer
In all honesty, why are we discussing unofficial vs official server popularity, far as I know, both versions have their pros and cons anyway, and in any case, it's not related to a suggestion so
did you just assume our ages
how old ru
Recurring to personal attacks uh?
i said boomer
ok zoomer
And also said retard or you just forgot?
i said retard to joe
yikes
Idc
mate
okay lets keep it clean people
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Yes please, and focus on the suggestions would be nice too! Since that's what we're here for :p
when they arent
they are necessary just not a mating call
But it's as useful as the other calls, and just as "unneccesary" in an sense
I mean no
Why you're all so opposed to it makes no sense
Hes just a no man
calls are time and money for the devs
because there is not practical us for it other then you want it on a semi realism server thats why
There is though
I've explained the use
And it has nothing to do with the kind of server
Alrgiht
a mating call probs wont even be used by a lot of people and will just be a joke to the majority and so its not needed
i understand variations in calls but why make 2 of the same call
what you call same doc
If they're variations Doc, they're.. not the same?
the 2 call and the mating?
oh no your suggestion is gone
well to be honest there is no point in discussing this point because you think one way and we think another ways. i been playing this game since it was released and found the the 4 calls do just fine as they are
pepega
You need call 2 and 3, to show you are friendly or agressive to any dino as you cant chat with dinos that arent the same as yours, call 4 because when you are getting chased is faster just 4 calling than writing "help", call 1 because It has a lot of range
But mating call is unnecesary as you only will mate with your own kind, you arent in a hurry(like for 4 call) and you cant mate at long distance, all these motives making chat enought
Thing is, theres a difference between friendly and neutral
Difference between aggressive and submissive
UHM
Difference between danger and help me
yes
real shit
but we have group and local
If they had, then calls would be less useful :p
and 2 call doesnt have a good range
2 call to be friendly is enough then u group
Group thats currently working in a dumb way, and requires either asking on discord, or just randomly invite for that matter
And local is short range
and talk
I suppose we ought to give up, they're fine with the bother of doing one step at a time, whereas Im not, and I guess you're not either, so.. xD
If they are far you just need to meet them first
Which is a bother that could be avoided by clearer communication :p
Yea what if they are there to fk you up? 1 call doent mean friendly
or u thinking u can sit at docks and wait for a female raptor to just zoom by after mating calls? 
doesnt
Wouldn't that be the point of broadcast in general mio, you broadcast and either move to the response, or hope the response comes to you? :p
1 call is just a general being loud call. doesn't mean anything
but you roam
apart from telling every dino near where you are
But why would you roam? xD
ah yes
1 call is loud and attracts both genders.
Nah, I tend to stay in the same area, I prefer finding a good spot to live in and do just that
If one Broadcast and someone Broadcast back is almost guarantee that both want to meet
gettibg spoon fed by ai im guessing?
I hunt if things happen to come by that are suitable for hunting
I can't help that most things favour the docks, twins, or some few other spots that I don't think make good homes most of the time :p
To meet up in general I would assume
ive got killed alot trying to find a pair in official servers
You know, if someone wanted to fight he would go to you to fight even if you use the mate call
Of course, calls can be used however
That's not really an argument against them? :p
Cause you can do the same with broadcast/any call already xD
you don’t need calls to ask people to bang your dino, if they’re that type they’ll just spam broadcast and then talk in local 
No but if you dont get a opposite gender reply to your call you could just continue
sigh It's not needed, it's a useful call, as would my other alternatives be, for being clear in intent, nothing more, nothing less
Why do you people get stuck on the "need"
it simply would be a waste
There are very few things we "need", and probably a fair more that are fun/useful/quality of life, and so on
because it seems unnecessary
Yea agree erik


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