or maybe some stupid broken physics collider thing
#general-feedback-discussion
vestal rune
icy tangle
@vestal rune No NO no trust me this is a real thing
vestal rune
I doubt it
either it just didn't play the noise or you missed
because this game's broken lol
icy tangle
Game is broken make more sense then
vestal rune
trust me dude, if that was actually a thing then theri would be useless
since it does a bunch of small damage hits instantly rather then 1 big one
icy tangle
I was playing dibble and got in an altercation with an allo we went straight to high water and fought in it. He was last screen i the chance to get into his back clearly hitting it, but no the guy wouldnt die with 350 bite force and 3.1 tons.. he went further and die to bleed .
Trust me there is something with spam bite
icy tangle
there is
vestal rune
and the devs haven't added anything like that
could be latency issues
but I'm fairly sure there's just a timer on when the hurt sound plays
icy tangle
wait till more and more people will notice this, its hard to notice i get it. But i play a lot and this is happening
vestal rune
it's been 5 months and you're the only one who noticed it
so no, I doubt people will
icy tangle
Time is the answer on this
vestal rune
it's been 5 fucking months
time as an answer has already been a thing, and it hasn't produced anything
icy tangle
I can proof what i say with videos of streams but im not gonna go into all that to prove my point. Ill let time do his thing.
vestal rune
time has already done it's thing
you know how long 5 months is?
I'ma test this myself
icy tangle
Test it on survival dont dare come and talk to me when you got off from a sandbox or test map..
vestal rune
you joking?
there's no difference between them in terms of mechanics
I tested it, there's no spam bite prevention, probably because there's no need for it
native vale
@icy tangle I also have issues with the spam bites sometimes. My friends and I noticed that months ago, though, and might think it has something to do with some sort of desync.
icy tangle
Thank you!
vestal rune
there's no mechanic for that
like alather said, it's probably just some issue with the game
icy tangle
And yes i noticed aswell months ago but wanna to talk about it now. I feel like its more and more broken
Dude i understand it's an issue with the game .. But Its still there so my point is right.
icy tangle
That why i suggested it and you trying to counter me like you are staying on this suggestion - discussion 24/7 trying to counter people
vestal rune
probably because of good computer and internet
because the suggestion channel is full of shit which clogs up the actual good suggestions?
icy tangle
Maybe shit but it is there . And it s breaking the game.
vestal rune
I've seen some amazing gems but the majority of times it's just "add sleeping" or "add tarbwosaurus"
native vale
Don't think it's good computers, haha. It's like how you get hit from the butt, but on other people's screen you're right in the creatures face.
native vale
Creature's*
native vale
I hope so!
icy tangle
i hope it will
tender rampart
^I've had the spamming bite issue the same as Joker has since day 1 of me playing this game and I've played for about 6 months now. It's 100% a thing. @icy tangle @vestal rune
Just a couple of weeks ago I fought a group of Suchos as an adult rex and I caught one of them with a bite and broke its leg. I kept on trying to bite him after that in quick successions but none of my bites were registering. It was after the Sucho landed 2-3 bites on me and after I waited like 2 seconds before my next bite that I finally was able to kill it.
vestal rune
oh that sucks
tender rampart
Yeah I actually ended up dying in that fight, largely in part due to me taking unnecessary extra hits from the Suchos because I couldn't land bites quick enough
signal apex
I think its buggy, cause I was able to spam bite yesterday but not last week
Wat
That suks
tender rampart
It does. But there was about 8-10 of them lol. I still managed to take down 4 at least
I do agree with you though, it's very buggy and I definitely think it's something the devs can work on
wintry cipher
I've noticed you have to go in and out of the model to register hits now. Can't sit and spam.
analog ingot
Hey guys, what do you think about adding disease and infection in game. Mainly to make carns not overhunt herbivores? Idk what to write about herbs yet about it.
hybrid canyon
That’s p neat, maybe a rotting meat system that select dinosaurs are able to eat. Or giving dilo a poison effect instead of bleed.
analog ingot
Sounds nice.
Im sure there is a lot of exploit that can be done tho so its difficult to suggest. Also not sure how a herb could be infected. I wanted to suggest that herbs have a stronger resist to infection but not to disease (if herbs were to eat a bad bush it would be very dangerous and a while to heal) but idk.
Here is how far I've come tho. (Not complete)
• Add disease and infection | Carnivores
- So people will think twice before sending dinos to the extinction basket or killing too much, risking injuries that can be infected.
Example: A Giganotosaurus is hunting a herd of 5 Stegosaurus. (Let's say the giga can kill all of them) But with my suggestion in the game, the giga should be pleased with 1 stego that it manages to take down.
- What if the giga gets infected right away by being hit by the stego it took down and the others trying to help it?
To not make it impossible for carnivores to hunt, the infection rate should kick in after X amount of hits on the exact same spot. (With location damage implemented to make this easier to code.)
So might be a bad example and ofcourse need a few tweaks to make it work.
My point is to not overhunt in the game and think twice before killing another one for sport. Find this a fun challenge to be put in game that makes it a little more hardcore gameplay.
paper oriole
lol nooooooo the giga sharks are back
vestal rune
I don't see the need for that mechanic
I imagine predators will only be able to take 1-2 creatures out of the herd because the rest escape
it's how it works in real life
indigo sun
Giga. Should. Not. Be. Aquatic. It. Has. A. Fucking. Niche. Already. Quit. Giving. Giga. Shit.
Or whatever water shit this dude suggested
It doesnt need to bleed shit out in water it does that just fine on land. Sharks and gigas should not go hand in hand.
paper oriole
I dont think that mechanic will stop the currrent trend of apexes mass murdering para herds for fun either
analog ingot
Hm.. maybe not. I guess I'll wait with my suggestion until the recode and a few other things are in to see how the animals work.
paper oriole
And lmao i just imagine like a giga pulling out a spellbook and summoning sharks to attack some trike whose already having an asthma attack crossing a small river
indigo sun
I dont see why it's an issue that giga hunts mid tiers either. The issue isnt that it's capable, it's how it kills them, which is through sheer force rather than bleeding stuff out by chasing it down. It's dumb. Like, i try to be nice but this is the most unnecessary, pulled-out-of-an-ass suggestion i have ever seen.
paper oriole
What herbivore is gonna be swimming across the wayerways that giga cant already 1-2shot
Plus aquatic giga is pointless and makes no semse
paper oriole
It trots shit down on land so well why would it need to go in water too
analog ingot
We just need open savannhas for giga boi and so prey sees him lol
indigo sun
Sometimes i wish a dev would come down and smite the fuck out of dumbass suggestions
paper oriole
Open plains for our boi carno
analog ingot
LOL
rigid tartan
your idea is bad and you should feel bad
analog ingot
I'm sure we will get those someday
rigid tartan
biomes are already confirmed
indigo sun
"Biomes" may be confirmed but "plains" was not afaik
paper oriole
Carno needs plains so he wont need titanium knees anymore
analog ingot
Even tundra biomes? Hm, not sure. (would be cool tho lol)
indigo sun
Tundra feels meh
Idk how well it'd work with big scaly reptiles
Might be good who knows
rigid tartan
be good for a human base of operations
paper oriole
Ssssshhhh
indigo sun
We dont need logic here
analog ingot
I mean we had arctic dinosaurs.
analog ingot
So adding those to a ''snow biome'' dlc or something could be cool
(Im not a fan of mods) lol
paper oriole
Some fat ass herbivores may have enough blubber to not die there
rigid tartan
🙄
void kiln
dinos are warm blooded avian creatures but im not sure they would survive tundra/arctic conditions without feathers
deino deff dies there
cuz hes reptile
paper oriole
Theri
rigid tartan
too big
paper oriole
No theri is perfect dont judge him
void kiln
ask elk
rigid tartan
elks eat bark. no dinos do
😂
unless they add that
ain't no berries is all in satin
sayin*
indigo sun
Dont things eat the really tough grass too? Or am i thinking of the wrong area?
rigid tartan
probably not in the arctic. there's not really even trees thst far up
void kiln
theyre adding new mechanics for herbies like grazing so you never know what could be added
paper oriole
Remember when theri ate trees lmao
indigo sun
Like bison or some shit idk what the fuck theyre called. Caribou eat moss and lichens and stuff, and also tree leaves
void kiln
alot of creatures are way less picky then some people think
indigo sun
Willow and birch leaves specifically
brittle ivy
I’m trying to pinpoint which suggestion this conversation pertains to :<
void kiln
lol
analog ingot
O_O
brittle ivy
That’s the ticket, thank you o/
indigo sun
"The Arctic is a type of the tundra biome" its just tundra with permafrost, same thing
indigo sun
Alaska... is a tundra
analog ingot
ok
valid zephyr
Anyone else like the giga sharks idea?
brittle ivy
I do like the idea of biomes affecting affinity — certain species, while surviving in every biome is possible, will inevitably thrive in certain biomes over others
analog ingot
but like this
indigo sun
Yeah
valid zephyr
Really want there to be a focus on biomes and which creatures prefer them.
indigo sun
Oh i just got reminded of the feathered para i found
brittle ivy
It would make giga fulfill a niche for.. say.. the apex of the savannah where as a rex would be better suited for a dense forest
indigo sun
Yeah
valid zephyr
Aka certain AI and plants spawn in certain biomes, and certain playable gain affinity by eating those.
valid zephyr
Aka oros and plant species A spawn on the plains.
Maias and Gallis like plant species A.
Carnos and utahs like maias, gallis, and oros.
would encourage all those species to chill there.
brittle ivy
That way you can have each species fulfill two niches (environment X play style) and go so far as to have a species fitted for every environment
analog ingot
Literally wanted this since day 1 of the isle
brittle ivy
Have two stealthy animals? One can take the reigns in the jungle (ex: dilo) and the other can rule a different biome
analog ingot
I want this as a pinged suggestion * - *
vestal rune
isn't this planned? lol
brittle ivy
That way you have some cookie cutting but you can justify with emplacement in specific areas
analog ingot
Biomes, but not animals to prefer them?
vestal rune
also it's included in why watt's and multi david's documents
brittle ivy
Biomes, yes, but the added suggestion of allowing similar play styles.. just different environments, would allow more species in-game
analog ingot
Like rex, spino and giga should have their own biome and barely see each other. Having a apex for every biome to say.
valid zephyr
We know there will be preferred diets, but nothing about said food being in certain biomes.
it could also avoid competition between similar species like cera and allo
indigo sun
Oh i just thought of the greatest plains ever
valid zephyr
would allow for lots more species without making them redundent
vestal rune
I think that would be cool for post completion aditions
iirc it was planned to add a lot of new dinos which would b every similar to others after it's done, kinda like echo fighters
and you could make it so the echo fighters prefer certain places
though I guess there's the fact that some dinos intrinsicly belong on certain places, like carno on plains
analog ingot
Skysealer, u should gather this information up and make a suggestion, then ping it. xD Would make the isle 110% more fun.
vestal rune
personally don't think they should work on it now though
brittle ivy
Ah, I would but I’m on mobile and going to sleep :<
vestal rune
also how would adding new dino species make the isle "110% more fun"
analog ingot
Like imagine 2 dinos with similar gameplay but in different biomes to play each in with slightly change in gameplay.
vestal rune
ye, slight changes
valid zephyr
aka cera and allo
vestal rune
lol no
valid zephyr
would no longer compete
vestal rune
cera and allo are totally different
valid zephyr
due to being in different biomes
vestal rune
cera and allo aren't echo fighters lol, their roles are fundamentally different
analog ingot
Allo vs stegos in their biome and Rex vs trike in their biome.
but thats just me 😛
maybe
vestal rune
which I imagine would only be worth while to make in the future
analog ingot
Yes of course
vestal rune
plus biomes don't really get rid of any balance problems
since undoubtedly animals would constantly wander out their biomes in pursuit of food
brittle ivy
Such as if they decide to make skins for specific species so you can have two animals with the same play style but inhabiting different areas naturally
vestal rune
ye that's what I think ^
like giga and carchara
but once again, they're only gonna do that post completion iirc
brittle ivy
Like to play dilo but want to hang out in the tundra? Go cryolophosaurus 
teal grotto
It be nice if things that looked like trikes had a charge attack.. An ambush that only lets you crouch but can only move in place like alt turning..
analog ingot
But styrac would need its own model and animations? It looks so different than a carcha would do to a giga?
vestal rune
would it?
styrac seems like it could just borrow dibble's animations
or is it closer to trike's size?
analog ingot
Idk it looks so much different than a dibble lol
analog ingot
Hm, idk about that.
valid zephyr
styraco could be an alternate dibble skin
vestal rune
ye
valid zephyr
they modify sizes anyway, so they can be same size
vestal rune
and one could live in jungle and the other on plains
ye size doesn't matter that much
vestal rune
also I liked the idea of ideal nesting areas being out of your ideal biome, so you'd go and nest there and then move back to your ideal biome once they grow
teal grotto
@analog ingot dlcs are far far far off lol
analog ingot
Like, that sauropod nesting its babies in a forest then returning to open plains from WWD? xD
vestal rune
ye lol
analog ingot
Well, I still think there should be some sort of force to ''you should stay in this biome because''. Like if a rex walks in a snow biome to kill all the X dinos it should maybe over time get negative affinity? idk
valid zephyr
thing is the more differences dlc skins have, the more controversial they will be. if dibble and styraco are literally the same except reskin then that's one thing.
But if they live in different areas, can't interbreed, group up, and have different calls people will start saying one is unfair advantage.
vestal rune
I don't think biomes should ever negatively affect your affinity
valid zephyr
@analog ingot I think it should be more positive to being in their own biome, rather than negative for the wrong one.
vestal rune
only raise them if you're inside your preferred one
valid zephyr
and it should be indirect aka food affinity, rather than pure location
analog ingot
ye
stray cloak
^
valid zephyr
still sad people don't want gigas to spawn shark clouds
white torrent
Lel
vestal rune
rat, where'd you even get that idea from?
it's so random
and you seem sincere about it
indigo sun
It's not entirely bad, just completely useless considering giga's current niche (that it has no issue filling besides the huge bite force) which is to bite things and track them and keep them on the move so they bleed out. Sharks shouldn't have anything to do with giga whatsoever. Like, i dont know how you possibly came to the conclusion that "ah yes, sharks and giga work together!" Giga's a land predator and no one takes issue with the fact that giga hunts mid tiers. The issue is that it doesn't actually hunt them, it just bites them and its weight, damage, and bleed kill them almost instantly. It's entirely impractical and almost any animal could do that. You could just remove "giga" and say "whenever a bleeding animal enters the ocean sharks are spawned and attracted by the blood to attack it." Like, giga in this scenario is completely fuckin useless. It doesn't need sharks to do shit for it when it's an incredibly capable land predator. And IDK what you mean by spino being incapable of hunting big prey, cause it seems like it'll be pretty capable aside from killing like rex or trike or some shit.
Just because giga could have swam after shit does not mean we should center an entire stupid mechanic around the vaguest idea possible. No.
No they wouldnt and I never fuckin said giga was useless what the fuck are you on?
Giga in the scenario of it biting shit to let sharks kill them in water is useless. You could swap it out for any animal
Like, it's not something giga needs at all
Giga is an incredibly capable land predator and doesnt need sharks to do shit for it. It can bleed things out on land just fine.
indigo sun
I'm getting real sick of giga in general.
barren zephyr
I am too.
The word giga already gets me in a bad mood
I am feeling like giga is super damn overestimated and overhyped by this community.
granite vigil
@stone gazelle there are already plans for Utahraptor to have a pounce and a pin
barren zephyr
with your logic anything that does bleed could do it like Nines has mentioned.
even Cerato that does 8 base
because if sharks are auto tped to blood
then anything can
indigo sun
... what.
boreal raven
Why tf do gigas need “sharks?”
indigo sun
Exactly
boreal raven
Gigas have an insane amount of bleed...
indigo sun
Bone break is only special to rex because of the way bone break works in the game currently, but a new system for it means other things get bone break in the future because the stupid system wont be broken as fuck.
granite vigil
That's why it was removed from everything else
barren zephyr
and its also obvious Rex should be breaking bones the most often on land.
12 800+ PSI
of bite force
boreal raven
Rex’s bleed is nothing compared to gigas as well.
indigo sun
..No.
surreal ingot
We don’t need sharks
boreal raven
We don’t need sharks...
barren zephyr
this guy legit has a Troll Aura reeking from him
I can tell trolling when I see it
surreal ingot
This can’t be legit man
indigo sun
1.) Why the fuck would they add anything before the recode they've stated there will be no updates for the entirety of the recode period
2.) GIGA DOESN'T NEED SHARKS IT ISNT AN OCEAN HUNTER AND YOU DONT SEE REX SPAWNING AN ENTIRE FUCKIN TREE TO FALL ON ITS PREY TO BREAK THEIR LEG
barren zephyr
The sharks would work for anything in the case.
indigo sun
In fact, nothing needs sharks. I'm sorry I try to be nice but it's a dumbass suggestion that has no actual reasoning behind it. If you're going to add any sort of shark, make them just go after anything bleeding in water
granite vigil
Just read the suggestion and Giga would be the last thing to roam around scattered ocean islands
surreal ingot
It’s like sharktale except giga is the mafia boss
indigo sun
N.O.
surreal ingot
My guy sharks would not make any damn sense
granite vigil
That's something a stray Deino would do if it ever got to the ocean, that or Spino because that's where it's gonna be most of the time
indigo sun
Again, literally just make sharks go after anything bleeding in water. Nothing needs to spawn any other creature.
cunning glacier
Sharks?
boreal raven
Sharks.
surreal ingot
Sharks
cunning glacier
S H A R K
boreal raven
S H A R K S
barren zephyr
sacred wyvern
megalodon!!!
granite vigil
That would make things too easy
cunning glacier
Sharkz
granite vigil
Like that's so easily exploitable
barren zephyr
stronk clam
surreal ingot
Are we done with the sharks now?
indigo sun
I could have one friend be a giga and the other be some big dino, have giga bite big dino player and they enter water, spino pack suddenly has food.
Yes we're done with sharks because it should've never been uttered in the first place and I'm honestly surprised anyone who made a giga-shark connection made it long enough in life to figure out how to put it into words.
cunning glacier
S H A R K
surreal ingot
FOR GODS SAKE MAN
indigo sun
That doesnt help anything though..
cunning glacier
KRAHS
boreal raven
We
surreal ingot
I’m never looking at sharktale the same way after this man
indigo sun
There's literally no point to make sharks giga-specific just make it part of the natural water ecosystem if you want sharks
native vault
In my opinion Allo should be a little bit faster, what's your opinion on it guys? (please move away from the shark thing)
cunning glacier
Say no to S H A R K S
indigo sun
Why does allo need to be faster?
barren zephyr
but it IS a clam @boreal raven
indigo sun
What is allo hunting/hunted by that makes it necessary to give it a speed buff?
boreal raven
...
surreal ingot
Zero you are bringing us the pain of sharks
native vault
It's as fast as a Rex now and in my opinion it should be faster than it, just an opinion though
native vault
Hunt
indigo sun
What about para? Which its the same speed as right now without ambush
Para just kinda gets fucked then doesnt it?
boreal raven
An allo with it’s ambush is fast enough as it is.
indigo sun
Cause allos are faster
native vault
Para is just useless atm
indigo sun
Its.. really not
indigo sun
I can get azure in here to explain
native vault
no thanks
indigo sun
Yeah if anything, para should be the faster one if it's useless. Allo is perfectly capable of hunting right now
I've never heard an allo player complain that they cant catch something because theyre too slow
barren zephyr
^
With their broken overpowered amb ush
why does allo need 12 seconds of 44 km/h ambush
native vault
Overpowered? I dont think so
barren zephyr
if its herbivore counter part is just a kilometer faster.
IT is
It is really overpowered
12 seconds is way too much
native vault
not really
cunning glacier
Guys cmon.............Sharks thats why
barren zephyr
Yes it is
indigo sun
Allo's in a great place for hunting right now. What is it hunting that it needs to be faster?
indigo sun
Well, great place for itself
boreal raven
xD
cunning glacier
never
barren zephyr
They want Allo to actually finish invalidating cerato
Allo already got a stupid speed buff recently
that made Cerato worse
It was already faster than a rex before
native vault
Cera needs a better ambush
barren zephyr
but allo mains whined
indigo sun
For real though, what is it hunting that it cant catch?
boreal raven
Gallis duhhhh xD
barren zephyr
I swear to god if you mention Galli
native vault
I won't dummy.
cunning glacier
D:
boreal raven
Ofc
cunning glacier
hey thats a good idea
indigo sun
Fuck giga.
cunning glacier
But how about sharks?
barren zephyr
Fuck Giga.
native vault
Why fuck Giga?
boreal raven
Make rexes speed the same as a gallis lmaooo
native vault
It's a really good apex if you know how to play as it
indigo sun
Cause giga sucks. No one's ever happy with it and it's either too op for its own hunting style or too weak "cause I cant fight rex boohoo poor little me"
It's a waste of space. Fuck giga.
cunning glacier
Awee poor giga
barren zephyr
Why have so much bleed if it 1-2 shots anything that isnt an apex
barren zephyr
Dilo doesnt 1-2 shot stuff with its raw.
Giga does
dont bring dilo to the ground
boreal raven
nErF dILo
indigo sun
Dilo actually bleedsvthings out. Giga goes "chomp chomp, done!"
native vault
If Giga wouldn't have bleed it couldnt even stand a change against a rex
barren zephyr
But it shouldnt fight a rex
boreal raven
^
barren zephyr
Argument invalid.
boreal raven
Rex isnt it’s only prey...
barren zephyr
"Muhh giga should have chances against recks!!1"
indigo sun
Giga shouldnt be going after rexes it should be bleeding out midtiers, which might i add, it doesnt, because its insane biteforce makes it 2-shot everything below it
boreal raven
If anything, the giga should be avoiding the rex...
cunning glacier
What we talking bout in here?
barren zephyr
Giga didnt kill large sauropods.
barren zephyr
Why the fuck do so many people mistake Mapu for Giga
Mapu lived with large sauropods
not Giga
Giga lived with sauropods smaller than it is
🤦
Give me solid proof that Giganotosaurus lived with LARGE sauropods in #paleotalk right now @steep pawn
Do it now
cunning glacier
N O W
barren zephyr
If you use a documentary i'll drop you there and leave
surreal ingot
Are we seriously still on about the sharks
cunning glacier
No im just being annoying
pulsar lake
Only thing than giga need for me :
-Nerf raw damages to 400 and not 750 ;
-Nerf Alt turn speed to 90° per second, so he will need 4 second to make a complet turn ;
-Nerf is stamina reconvery to only walk and resting, not troting and make it really bad in walk, like 2% every 4 seconds (so 200 second to recover from 0 to 100) or less ;
Nerf his weight mass from 6,4k to 6,2 or 6k only ;
-Buff his bleed from 40 to 55 for make it the ultimate bleeder ;
-Make than he is the dinosaurs who can smelle the longest time blood for make than if you got baited, giga will find your body and it will make a blooder track ;
For me that all giga need to have an unique play style and not a "Bleeder rex".
cunning glacier
its all talk about giga now
surreal ingot
Thank god
pulsar lake
That is all giga need to be unique, balanced, enoyable to play and make it skilled
indigo sun
Gigas trot doesnt need to be nerfed its entire hunting style revolves around the trot
pulsar lake
I'm a main giga and actual giga is not balanced I swore
indigo sun
It trots them down and bleeds them out
I get it's unbalanced but making it have a slow trot and have shit stam regen is just a bad idea when that takes away its style of trotting things down and bleeding them out
indigo sun
Why?
pulsar lake
Yeah finnaky useless idea
But raw damage nerf is a big yes
After playing giga after his rework I was like "It's too easy wtf is that ?"
Why sharks ?
As food for spino okay
cunning glacier
Did i hear sharks?
boreal raven
Omfg
barren zephyr
shark powered giga
pulsar lake
But I don't see why we should have shark in the game ?
cunning glacier
Sharks for survival?
cunning glacier
Xd
surreal ingot
NO SHARKS
barren zephyr
no u
cunning glacier
Shark
boreal raven
You do realize there were different time periods right rat???
cunning glacier
This whole shark thing rlly lifted my day XD
pulsar lake
But why should we have megalodon ?
I don't see how it can be usefull if we don't have an entire marine ecosystem with Archelon, Mosa, Elasmo, Ichtyo and other stuff and if we had this we need a gigantic server slot for every Isle's players
cunning glacier
Ur profile pick is literally me rn Rat
boreal raven
And made Gark babies.
surreal ingot
I love garks
cunning glacier
Siga
pulsar lake
Shark lived in same time as giga
cunning glacier
Shiga*
pulsar lake
Like Hybodus
barren zephyr
giga and pelagornis fought usually irl fun fact
pulsar lake
But that a Great White Shark size
No
We won't have shark in this game
If you want to play shark, go play Depth
surreal ingot
Put on boxing gloves and did it the ol fashioned way
cunning glacier
Elephants and Rex had frequent fights did u know?
pulsar lake
Uh
barren zephyr
pelagornis ripped off giga's arms and drilled inside, out the giga
cunning glacier
GASP
barren zephyr
elephants are smart creatures
cunning glacier
he said it guys
pulsar lake
Dunkleosteus fought a day Spinosauru in a river
cunning glacier
Turtles had rex for dinner did u know
surreal ingot
I think I’m losing my mind
cunning glacier
nah
barren zephyr
he's watching
boreal raven
You’re not alone @surreal ingot
surreal ingot
This man has broke me as a person
cunning glacier
Who now?
barren zephyr
Finally something we both agree on
surreal ingot
About damn time as well
valid zephyr
Maybe pela could fly around where there is sharks?
like seaguls do
in order to scavenge from the bodies
boreal raven
I swear, this shark thing is just getting out of hand now lmao.
surreal ingot
I’m gonna be having sharks in my nightmares now
valid zephyr
pela and sharks could form an ecosystem together
surreal ingot
Yeah but what would that bring to the game
boreal raven
Sharks are now my sleep paralysis demons.
valid zephyr
@steep pawn seems to like the idea.
boreal raven
Lmao
cunning glacier
Rlly
surreal ingot
Sure they could be a future thing
cunning glacier
Still talking bout sharks
surreal ingot
Yes
boreal raven
Yes.
surreal ingot
Yes but why would they be added
cunning glacier
eh better than whats going down in Isle discussion rn
valid zephyr
seaguls gather round shark feeding frenzys
cunning glacier
So ill join u guys here
surreal ingot
For what reason would they be added
Why do they need to exist in the isle
If you say for giga I’m gonna scream
AAAAAAAAAA
Why in good god would a giga need help from sharks
It is perfectly capable of killing something
surreal ingot
I’m gonna end up having a mental break done the next time I see a shark I swear
Down
Auto correct is killing me
cunning glacier
so guys
boreal raven
shows picture of shark
surreal ingot
I’m leaving now
boreal raven
No Ruil
surreal ingot
Nvm I dunno what’s going on over there
surreal ingot
I actually genuinely don’t understand why we would need sharks
Please I need an answer
surreal ingot
I like sharks but we don’t need them
wintry cipher
Spino will wind up doing the same stuff as a shark and more tbh if you think about it from a gameplay standpoint.
surreal ingot
In what world would they belong to a giga
And yeah spino would just do the exact same crap
If you think about it
Now can we please stop talking about the sharks
My guy
cunning glacier
Plz stop
surreal ingot
No sharks
valid zephyr
I think the sharks could be a good way for it to compete with spino in the ocean.
for balance
cunning glacier
0 sharks
boreal raven
I’m done...
surreal ingot
It was funny at first but after this experience I’m a broken man
surreal ingot
This has been far worse than the recode
cunning glacier
It might kill Ruil
surreal ingot
Im gonna need therapy
cunning glacier
XD
I havent been active in a while on this server and i come back to all this XD
jovial moss
If you're gunna add sharks, don't make them giga minions wtf
they're great on their own they don't need to help a giga gangbang some poor innocent
surreal ingot
Exactly
cunning glacier
XD
surreal ingot
N O
jovial moss
it doesnt need to catch sucho...
cunning glacier
Stop
jovial moss
it can catch literally everything else
cunning glacier
u will acc kill ruil like cmon now....
valid zephyr
then again sucho isn't its competition, so maybe the sharks don't go for sucho
surreal ingot
If they were added they wouldn’t just go after one specific dinosaur
End of story no more sharks
barren zephyr
i believe dracorex is considered a subadult/teenager pachycephalosaurus to a diffrent sub species
mellow fox
Is this another Buff Giga meme?
Giga being able to spawn Sharks?
barren zephyr
@mellow fox its him 😄
mellow fox
Tbh I think this would be the definition of overkill
valid zephyr
the sharks have only just begun
valid zephyr
what do people think of feathers/quills being an optional skin feature?
thorny lynx
Should be a thing. It's -optional-. Idk why people're such whiners about an optional feature.
surreal ingot
Would still play the game even if it wasn’t optional
thorny lynx
What about hatchling dinos?
valid zephyr
i'd prefer not to have my own skins hidden as somone doesn't want a feathered utah
barren zephyr
it kinda destroys unity between species to see feathered dinos with ones covered in scales
valid zephyr
they're fictional anyway, so not really a stretch to say the scientists who made the dinos experimented with different traits
there isn't much unity as is with all the skin colours
wicked fossil
Since humans seems to be involved in these dinos it could be an arguable thing since humans have bred away fur and scales in quite a few animal spp
Personally it sounds like a suggestion that would make most ppl happy since they can pick whatever they want
I'd very much like to see feathered utahs etc 😃
and be one above all
stone gazelle
and who sayd dinosaurs didnt have differences in scalecolors? its like dogs same race but not the same furcolor
indigo sun
@vital minnow i think a mobile version of this game would either look/run like shit or make your phone explode. This game seems to be mainly for very high end pc's and i dont think phones could handle it
Well, i suppose the occasional rare laptop can run it
But i dont see it being nearly the same quality on a phone
vital minnow
I believe an iPhone can survive the isle yet not so much an android
I run ark wonderfully yet not as great graphics as the isle
indigo sun
On your phone or on your computer? Sorry if its a dumb question but o dont know shit about ark i've never even touched it
barren zephyr
My laptop can run it, barely, but it can lmao
indigo sun
I suppose maybe if they optimized it a lot it could work, which some optimization might come with the recode. I really just cant see it working on mobile with the smaller screens (unless you've got like a tablet or some shit) and i really cant imagine the game playing the same on mobile
vital minnow
You might be right but just look at fortnite they have the game on console computer and mobile
indigo sun
I think there's also a bit more stuff that needs to be taken into account like calls or nesting or resting buttons cause phones dont have external keyboards and the isle's a bit more than "tap to bite x" or " tap and hold screen to drink/eat" i know its kinda bland like that now but in the future and stuff
Fortnite is a little different i think, there seems to be less controls
vital minnow
Ok you got me but still it would be nice to think they can make it into the best phone game ever made
They already made it look so realistic and I want to challenge them to see if they can do the same on a mobile game
vagrant goblet
hmm every isle server is down 🤔
feral wedge
Incorrect.
Apparently they're just being strange?
But this isn't the place for that.
indigo sun
@pale ibex
upbeat brook
If you are having trouble restart steam an update just went up
pale prairie
@grand lodge what are you talking about? steam has no plans to remove The isle from their platform.
barren zephyr
Here we go again 
grand lodge
Yeah right its been in early access for almost 5 bloody years and steam has a dead line for all games in early access
coarse shell
no it doesnt
pale prairie
it really doesn't
coarse shell
doesnt say that in steam's ea guidelines anywhere
edgy furnace
Ah shit here we go again @barren zephyr
pale prairie
if you'd like to tell us where exactly you got that information, go ahead.
barren zephyr
That’s not how steam works my guy
pale prairie
please, share with us.
coarse shell
"some guy on nycta told me"
unborn quail
still temple
"[Please don’t ban me]"
indigo sun
@grand lodge https://partner.steamgames.com/doc/store/earlyaccess here are steam's early access rules, none of which state anything about a deadline. Don't believe everything some angry, braindead player tells you. The Isle was on the front page of steam like last week, it's not going anywhere.
I will note that this is stuff available for everyone to read, and all it takes is like... 7 seconds of typing into google "steam early access rules"
wicked fossil
@stone gazelle dogs are linebred on mutations. A coat/scale/skin/feather variation like our domisticated animals does not occour in the wild but mutations does happen that will stray from the normal wildtype.
Theres another way though and thats when species are geographically isolated or far apart enough to not mix genetics. In the reptile hobby we call these variations for locales where each region have the same species but the genepool is diverse enough to maintain separate colours while the individuals arent diverse enough to be classified as separate spp.
vestal rune
@pulsar lake alot of those things already had recently updated animations lol
also isn't bryan only re-animating because of gradual ontogeny
pulsar lake
Allo is trash now, Dibble is from the beginning, Sucho will have a new trot (that was said) and need new crouch with new sprint, Para is just shant, Giga will be rework, Cera is bad and in crouch you can't hide, galli have ramen pasta for legs and trike need a new one but in same style.
mental sleet
Allo is trash in what aspect ?
mental sleet
Jesus, are people never satisfied ?
vestal rune
I don't really have a problem with any animations, apart from maybe para 'caus they're straight ripped from shant
they all look really well
normal fern
Yeah tbh I don't get the hate for allos run and trot
vestal rune
tbh the only people I see complaining about it is like fluff
ye, I think the run and trot looks great
pulsar lake
Allo was gorgeous before and now his animations are destroyed from the big update
It was much better before
oak shale
@barren zephyr care to explain what you don’t like about my document?
@oblique sluice
what do you think needs improvement
oblique sluice
Well, as mid tier i think it should have a bit worse NV than dilo, but all dinos will have different NV in the future so the niche of nocturnal mid tier might be a bit diffuse
i mean, i like the idea, but imo it needs something more @oak shale
oak shale
Well
I did state that it’s night vision would be binocular
like a tourch
I’ll probably need to add in some visual diagrams
manic ibex
As a mid tier you spend more time to grow, so I don't know why it should have a NV worse than Dilo. If anything, they should be equal. I play Dilo and Allo pretty much equally (my 2 favs), and Dilo NV is just ruining the night for a lot of players that are either: not in a group big enough to fight the Dilos, or not a dino that have nothing to fear from them.
manic ibex
Dilo NV is just too much of an asset
and I freaking like the dino remind you
but it is honestly too much
During nighttime, a lot of players just log out, log their Dilo, or just hide. They don't play the game, they just endure night and hope that no group of Dilos will find them
oak shale
My iteration of sino would only be able to see in front of it
but it would have very good nv
manic ibex
Sino, or any other nocturnal midtier, would add a threat to the Dilos at night, which they need
it is far too easy
oak shale
True nothing to challenge them
manic ibex
sometimes, when the night is really pitch black (or even not as dark), the Dilo can just walk in the open, knowing that nothing could see it, and so it is safe from everything. Just like Utah on docks or Dryo in burrows. These things are unacceptable in a survival game (but I would say that Dryo is ok since it can't do shit).
oak shale
Lol
But ye definitely gonna add some spicy visual diagrams
@brave jasper What do you think?
brave jasper
I just really like the idea of a predator that is designed to be nocturnal
Im not the best on decicding how to balance things but but I like where its headed
oak shale
Thanks
brave jasper
👌
oak shale
anything you think I could improve tho? 
brave jasper
I think possibly the mechnics like the nocturnal crouch where it isnt fully lowered is interesting but I cant see how it could work
oak shale
The main thing is that it’s ment to charge up faster than a regular ambush
but has a cool down to balance
And it’s not exactly unrealistic
brave jasper
Then maybe ik it wouldnt be for fighting IRL but using its crest/horn as it charges on smaller creatures could do...something
Ye after reading it again a quick charge up ambush at night would be god damn scary to be on the recieving end of
oak shale
Originally it’s base speed was a little higher
and the ambush boost was 58.8 km/h
so I had to nerf both quite a bit
Lol
oak shale
Nope
brave jasper
not taking this other-games dw its just lifted form it
well
an operator in that game has an ability called silent step
it muffles footsteps to an almost inaudible leve until she is right on top of you
perhaps something liek that
oak shale
I was originally going to put in something similar, but was told it would be too Op because apparently footstep sounds are a lot louder than they are supposed to be
brave jasper
ah fair enough well Keep it up im sure you'll get the perfect idea
oak shale
Thanks
brave jasper
np
@oak shale Had a quick thought what about a venom or something that after its applied enough causes the victims night vison to fail for a short duration of time
brave jasper
fair enough
oak shale
Besides I’m working on another doc that has the Dino featured using a type of venom, I don’t really want too manny venom based bois
brave jasper
ooo I look foward to it
oak shale
And plus with that speed and power Sinotyrannus would be way too op Imo
But I will take all of these into consideration
brave jasper
I think the quick ambush will the be winning design
oak shale
@barren zephyr care to explain what you dislike about the document?
barren zephyr
I think I did that on accident while scrolling oof
oak shale
Are you sure?
valid zephyr
yay glad people like the idea of mercs having more complex goals than simply killing all they see,
barren zephyr
I like the idea of a bigger nocturnal mid
I can't say much statwise since that isn't much of my forte tho
oak shale
Hmmm
barren zephyr
Glass cannon I feel also works well with nighttime as a concept
Makes his weakness easier to deal with at night when the prey can't see him
oak shale
Ye
fading shadow
@oak shale wut
oak shale
what Do you not like about my doc?
oak shale
Really, I think it’s a pretty good looking theropod, but besides that, anything you think I could improve on?
@fading shadow
white torrent
Gunner
barren zephyr
@undone pike Sandbox dinos are in a grey area currently i don't believe they will get any changes to stat wise for a while (shant needs more stam 
)
spino though will be added to survival and should be completely rebalanced to fit with the other apexs
barren zephyr
Yup
white torrent
Hopefully it’s still a stronk boi
Also @pulsar lake I like your suggestions for all the Dino reworks, but I’d include the cerato calls In for a hopeful rework, because right now they don’t compare to any of the others
pulsar lake
Thank you
white torrent
No prob, a lot of them are really true, and I think sucho is getting new stuff when his rework arrives
Same with giga actually
viral creek
@thorny lynx They were nice animations, but they were scrapped for a reason
They were far too slow
unborn quail
Pretty sure the animations themselves broke when put in game too
thorny lynx
Aww..
But the ones we have now aren't any better.
And allo's run is too fast for its new speed, anyway
unborn quail
It isn't. Any sliding you see is due to momentum, The animations allo has now were made for a faster base speed
And with the boost being so slight, it wasn't enough to change anything.
thorny lynx
But Allo's new speed does not match its run because the feet slide forward instead of pushing off the ground. I can't explain it. The old run speed fit the animation.
I know Allo has momentum, but I noticed the change in how the feet interact with the ground when Allo had a speed boost. They slid.
indigo sun
@median badger Velociraptor is entirely too small to be playable (size limit is dryo/pteranodon size). And I don't think velociraptor would be even fun anyways considering that from what you've said, its main gimmick is being with other carnivores. Nerfing another creature's scent just to make something useful is also not really the best idea. Cause whose to say anyone would even play velo? Other dinosaurs' scent gets nerfed for the sake of something else they might not even ever play with. Velo would also be weak as hell even with any sort of buff so it'd be entirely useless on its own. It's better off as AI as a cleanup crew and threat to juveniles.
vestal rune
what
indigo sun
I also don't believe carnivores really need some other creature to act as a crutch for them to help them find food and water when scent and learning the map helps them just fine with water and food is up to the carnivore itself to find.
vestal rune
why would you want interspecies help?
indigo sun
Also that's mixpacking so fuck that
vestal rune
ye
vestal rune
you used the?
oak shale
emoji
vestal rune
oh
jolly willow
i dont like the dinosaur, yeah.
oak shale
I see
indigo sun
@spare hinge 1.) You can alt turn and you wont be defenseless on your ass, but walking backwards isnt the worst idea in the world. 2.) More ai is coming, and if youre starving as a carnivore you must be deaf cause it spawns on your ass. 3.) Night time's the same time as day, just doesnt feel like it because of the inbetween stages.
The others i have no real opinion on, except walking and sniffing I agree with; fucking please it's so stupid herbivores need to stop and moan like pornstars to find fucking food and choosing spawn locations is a good idea as well
spare hinge
@indigo sun 1- alt turn is good and a little stupid but not available in most survivals, so... 2- well i like to see more AI it will give the game more life too and i'm deaf and it is hard to find one when you are playing in a noisy place or you don't have a good headphone... 3- night time is waste of time specially when scent power is not good enough to partly replace the vision at night... and i personally like days more so i suggested that...
vestal rune
half the things there are planned lol
what do you mean alt turn is not available in most survivals?
spare hinge
i mean many servers disabled it
vestal rune
officials don't
spare hinge
oh i didn't even try it there... ma bad :I
vestal rune
ye...
paper oriole
pffft weaklings and their maps
barren zephyr
A lot of servers dont use alt turn though which are quite populated.
pseudo falcon
loli lovers don't have an opinion
feral wedge
@crude slate Those would be called unofficial servers.
indigo sun
i think he means like an option for like the in-game actual groups with the nametags and shit to be mixed
not just like, allow mixpacking
or wait
i think your point still applies anyway nevermind im dumb
feral wedge
Correct. Lmao
finite perch
tenative ⏲ emoji because i coulda swore it was hinted at some point, but it was noted that the devs want to play with things like broken horns
but its unknown if its viable
patent spade
whats with everyone wanting sleeping to be a thing 
indigo sun
This is one where i seriously dont know... sometimes it's suggested to improve the quality of afk or some shit idk, but i think people dont realize that an actual sleep mechanic would be the most boring shit ever. It cant work like wolfquest has it where it speeds up time, because it's multiplayer, and if there's some sort of tiredness meter, it'd be boring as fuck to sit still for like 7 in game hours trying to get that filled
barren zephyr
But it fills up very quickly, like 5 minutes, you're rest will be filled.
Plus resting will be more realistic
indigo sun
Sleeping would have to be, at most, entirely aesthetic. Making players sleep instead of play the game even for a short time would turn people off from it like, immediately. Cause why should i have to sit still constantly to keep playing my dinosaur
I dont want to take damage because i need to get to the other side of the map and play with my friends and cant sleep to get that stupid meter up or else we wont have time to play together.
patent spade
the game doesnt have to be realistic though
barren zephyr
Tbh it doesn't needa have a meter or take damage, it can just be something to have fun with
patent spade
ppl are so obsessed with the game being realistic and I dotm get why
indigo sun
It should be aesthetic then. Not necessary to survive.
patent spade
dont*
barren zephyr
And to be honest Aelita, realistic games mostly let you be the dinosaur, it makes ya kinda feel like you're the dinosaur.
paper oriole
sleeping could have benefits but i dont think you should be punished for not doing it
patent spade
idk just seems like a pointless mechanic considering when you lay down to get stam is pretty much resting and getting energy back
also pretty sure no one wants to get attacked while they are sleeping
oak shale
@formal slate Could I get some feed back on what you don’t like about my document seeing as you used 
@barren zephyr You as well
barren zephyr
It’s bc I don’t like sino, and I’d much rather have alberto, and sino would make alberto feel a bit redundant
oak shale
With the mechanics for a crusher alberto would be, less redundant no? Also I did change several stats with not making alberto redundant
I may change things like the bleed it does
so it’s less of a crusher
barren zephyr
Also sino doesn’t feel like it’d fit very well, much like austro doesn’t, they both would feel out of place
One of the reasons I don’t like it as much as say gorgo or alberto
barren zephyr
It’s a bit too obscure, and since we already have alberto as another potential mid tier that is already in game, it wouldn’t make much sense to add sino
Also I think the creature is quite ugly but that’s j an opinion
oak shale
I’ll see if I can change some stats around
barren zephyr
It not really about the stats tbh, it’s just I don’t think a super obscure Dino like that would fit very well especially when we already have a Dino in the game (alberto) that could fit any role it could
We have a kinda obscure Dino rn in dibble, but the difference is there really isn’t another thing that fits what it does well as a mid tier ceratops, that’s the difference because any niche a sino could fill could also be filled by a more appealing/convenient Dino like allo or alberto
oak shale
allo already has a niche, and besides that mechanics will be what differentiates dinosaurs the most, Alberto and Sino whilst similar can still fit very different roles making both viable through the use of mechanics, balancing what stats can’t, And I do believe stats play into it some what, Originally I wanted Sinotyrannus to be more crusher oriented, but I guess that I’ll need to change that.
normal fern
Sino is redundant
grave karma
ambush speed comparable to carno's regular run speed
grave karma
i really dont think it needs 42 km/h
oak shale
Hmm aigt
grave karma
it'd just be a carnivorous maia minus the bulk
oak shale
36 - 37 range?
normal fern
There's nothing to change when there's no need for the animal in the first place
normal fern
Any if the current mids could be made nocturnal
It would actually make cerato unique from Allo
Would actually justify having alberto
oak shale
Cerato will be a scavenger nocturne won’t be its main focus
so it would have little with noc turnal mechanics
Alberto - glass cannon crusher
normal fern
Your entire document is literally "Alberto but nocturnal"
wraith trout
@formal vine What is wrong with the utah's wrists exactly?
indigo sun
They mean the new animations and stuff
oak shale
They want the wrists like that
wraith trout
I have 2 points to make here. The game is not going for accuracy
oak shale
so it stays
grave karma
wrists are pronated in front instead of side
formal vine
This game is not trespasser, its The isle right?
random knoll
Hmmm these two similar dinos have similar looking wrists....
wraith trout
and the current wrists are pretty accurate
grave karma
ever since it was added it has been going more towards jp raptor
wraith trout
Are they pronated wrong?
formal vine
Yes
indigo sun
The new wrists bryan showed off in the animations are pronated wrong, not the current ones
formal vine
^
wraith trout
Ahhhhhh
indigo sun
Adikavita is talking about the new ones
wraith trout
I'll check that out then, my bad
formal vine
And thats why they look unoriginal, the model already looks jurassic park, then the wrists come.
jfc just call it velociraptor and get it done wi--- nah jk
But for real now, the wrists are good as they are NOW.
grave karma
call it velociraptor ripoffus
formal vine
^
random knoll
I feel that would be more for feedback
formal vine
what do you retract exactly?
vestal rune
I don't even think the wrists were that bad?
indigo sun
...they're agreeing with you i think.
vestal rune
it hardly looked like JP wrists, just weird slightly strained normal wrists
wraith trout
I think your criticism is valid, but I still acknowledge that the devs are not going for accuracy
random knoll
Can we get a uhh side by side comparison
formal vine
They're not, but atleast not have freaking jurassic park velociraptors here
grave karma
or just the clip of the new anims
normal fern
We don't expect them to go for accuracy, we just expect them to have originality
formal vine
^
wraith trout
Fair enough
random knoll
So what should they look like then?
formal vine
The rex is fine, The giga is fine, the spino model looks good, but the utah? ehhh
grave karma
not like uhhh jp raptor
formal vine
It should look like THE ISLE'S utahraptor
wraith trout
^
formal vine
Not JP's velociraptor
random knoll
And what should that be?
formal vine
Do you play the Isle?
random knoll
I mean I’m here
formal vine
You know what one of its most popular dinosaur looks like?
Like that
No need to change the utah's wrists if it already looks solid
random knoll
Can you get a side b6 side.
formal vine
It should look at the slight bit original.
random knoll
I don’t really play carni that much
formal vine
just a sec
random knoll
To me it all looks the same
grave karma
grave karma
that bothers me more than it should
formal vine
Look at that crap broken hand wrist
Dondi likes jurassic park, ok, but come on, he made this game to be its own thing
Not a ripoff or a fan game
random knoll
I guess I can see what your talking about
wraith trout
Yeah that's annoying me more than Im willing to admit
random knoll
Ehh idk
formal vine
heres another one with the current wrists OPEN