i used to prefer no alt to alt, but after playing in dm for a while ive come to appreciate the presence of alt turn on survival dinosaurs much more, and favor the combat more since it makes combat more involved than "run in a circle or brake check and nothing else"
#general-feedback-discussion
brittle bough
umbral prairie
defending is more difficult without alt turn, except it is so difficult it becomes incredibly unbalanced unless you introduce more rules
barren zephyr
the option to remove alt turn from servers is gay and is getting removed soon
random knoll
without alt turn anyone can kill anyhting thing by just staying on its butty
so you like ass ridisng?
barren zephyr
dinosaurs walking backwards looks dumb
mossy sapphire
Who is talking about ass riding
random knoll
you are
brittle bough
thats all no alt fighting is
umbral prairie
alt turn is realistic though, not the speed which some dinos do it with but turning on the spot is probably more realistic than walking back
dim ore
Slate, i know combat is getting reworked, it needs to be and i am all for it, hopefully it gets rid of alt turn while they are at it, as alt turn is unrealistic and looks stupid to see rexes swiveling around on the spot like a death tornado.. i dont like alt turn, nor to i like that people can currently butt ride, a solution needs to be made, and hopefully the devs are coming up with one, i simply suggested backing up as one option to help in a future that will most likely see alt turn removed entirely.
random knoll
in no alt turn servers thats all you do
ass ride
and you can kill bassicly anyhting
mossy sapphire
I nevver mentioned ass riding
random knoll
but without alt tunr tahst what happens
brittle bough
smoothie.. what is no alt fighting to you?
umbral prairie
alt turn is not unrealistic dapper
indigo sun
"looks stupid" so is your issue also with the lack of animations that is actually going to get fixed?
barren zephyr
"no alt" is so fucking cringe omg
umbral prairie
large animals turning on the spot is more realistic than large animals walking backwards
again, some dinos do it too fast
barren zephyr
enjoy having that removed >:)
umbral prairie
but the idea behind the mechanic is not unrealistic
dim ore
alt turn is very unrealistic, the solution is simply to give all creatures a very tight turn radius or give the utah a wider one.. alt turn is ridiculous to imagine any creature performing such a feat.
brittle bough
how is alt turn unrealistic. elaborate.
indigo sun
my guy....
umbral prairie
what is unrealistic about an animal turning in place
explain to me
why a rex would not be able to turn in place, but walk back
indigo sun
please stand up, then turn around without walking in a giant circle. you'll find it's very easy
brittle bough
https://youtu.be/LxE43y88XYE?t=52
even large animals are perfectly capable of it.
brittle bough
we are calm, stop derailing.
dim ore
name one creature of a comparable size to a rex that can stand on one leg and perform a ballerina dance like alt turn is.
random knoll
give a reason
indigo sun
so your issue is the lack of animations, which isnt actually a reason and it getting fixed
brittle bough
@dim ore dont bring the animations into it. mechanics, not aesthetics. weve already said the animations are unfinished and will be fixed.
umbral prairie
that is the worst argument to bring against alt turn
brittle bough
elaborate on how the mechanic is unrealistic.
barren zephyr
think about this.
u want the devs to spend time making animations for walking backwards and tail attacks even tho they could give alt turn an animation
random knoll
we need reasons not just "calm down" or "it dosent look nice"
barren zephyr
in pretty sure theropods cant walk backwards
dim ore
Slate if you had read my earlier post you would see that i already acknowledged the fact that the devs are working on it, i already agreed that it is a good thing they are doing, and i know its still unfinished, my suggestion is just a suggestion.
umbral prairie
I have never seen a bird walk backwards, but I have seen birds turn in place (ok, most birds just hop and turn but they still turn in place)
brittle bough
dapper, we asked you to elaborate on why the mechanic is unrealistic. you said "ballerina turn looks stupid."
umbral prairie
which has nothing to do with the mechanic itself
brittle bough
also theropods can walk backwards but thats besides the point lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6-uVX2nEcg
dim ore
alt turn is turning on the spot without actually having any turn radius, its unatural in the extream, very few creatures can do it like alt turn does.
umbral prairie
it is not unnatural
random knoll
not " it looks stupid"
dim ore
you show me a large creature that can alt turn in nature, you will have a hard time finding one
barren zephyr
the thought of 9 ton rex doing is funny @brittle bough
umbral prairie
look at elephants
indigo sun
wasnt there a video of an elephant doing that posted like two minutes ago in here?
umbral prairie
do they need a turn radius?
lament thorn
Honestly the only animal that I know that can't irl alt turn is a kangaroo?
mossy sapphire
Isnt this a dinosaur game 
lament thorn
Snakes aren't even real creatures
jovial skiff
wat
brittle bough
i literally just linked an elephant turning in place dude
indigo sun
i'm sorry do you got a time machine where you can get us footage of dinosaurs? nah. all we got is the current large animals
brittle bough
umbral prairie
'show me a big animal' shows big animal 'that's not a dinosaur though'
lament thorn
You know your point can be made against you?
brittle bough
i can look for an emu or something i guess lmao
mossy sapphire
Show me a real dinosaur alt turning to prove me wrong
lament thorn
We don't have a time machine so we can literally do what we want
random knoll
wat
mossy sapphire
jovial skiff
alt turn was made to counter ass riding
random knoll
there are no dinosaurs left what do you want us to do? go back in time and take a video
barren zephyr
it's okay i will use my time machine to go back in time to harass a tyrannosaurus to force it to move in place
lament thorn
This game isn't even realistic so as long as a mechanic is plausible why does it matter?
random knoll
i feel pain
dim ore
the elephant shown is not doing what alt turn enables players to do, the elephant is in fact simply using his natural turn radius, this would be an acceptable thing in game as his hind legs remain fairly stationary and he pivots around in a circle. alt turn however has the creatures spinning at a remarkable speed often on one leg .
random knoll
go find a video of a Elpahnt doing a full on turn
umbral prairie
it turns
jovial skiff
U do notice alt turn animation is not complete right guys so it doesn't look realistic...
brittle bough
@dim ore i swear to god if you bring up the animations one more time.
make a point against alt turn WITHOUT mentioning the ballerina part.
indigo sun
still your main argument remains it doesnt look nice, and we've stated MULTIPLE TIMES that it wont always be spinning
jovial skiff
up a trikes ass for 20 minutes
indigo sun
christ on a bike cycling to mass on a friday you still have a lack of argument here
viral creek
Actual animations for alt turn are planned, so your arguement is out the window.
dim ore
@jovial skiff indeed i agree stego, this is mostly my point, however they are attacking me rather extremely now...and taking my suggestion far beyond a decent conversation.
brittle bough
you can make a point that maybe they turn too fast for what they are, but animations may change that.
dapper.
viral creek
Nobody's attacking you
umbral prairie
who is attacking here
viral creek
They are explaining to you
brittle bough
literally all we have asked for is your reason for why alt turn is unrealistic other than the animations, and you have exclusively replied with "the turning on one foot is dumb." literally all we want is a mechanical reason for why its bad.
valid zephyr
How many times do we have to explain alt turn simply lacks animations.
dim ore
@brittle bough the ballerina part is the point..it doesnt look good at all right now, and i dont honestly believe the devs are planning on keeping it in the long run.
viral creek
🤦
random knoll
bruh
north hemlock
brittle bough
....dapper.
the devs. are going. to give. alt turn. proper animations.
lament thorn
Dude
umbral prairie
people are getting unfriendly because you just repeat your already proven invalid point
viral creek
Alt turn is getting animations.
umbral prairie
but nobody is attacking
indigo sun
they have stated alt turn will be getting proper animations if you would open your eyes and read peoples' messages for once JESUS
brittle bough
so they will actually put their feet on the ground. realistically. to turn.
viral creek
If you keep making that statement then people will attack you 
umbral prairie
wait your point is that because it looks dumb, it should be removed
indigo sun
just read dude
barren zephyr
waste time adding unnecessary shit cause i dont like how a certain feature looks ingame even tho its getting changed to look better in the future...
brittle bough
also, ostrich can alt turn. the mechanic is not unrealistic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AezYOTfNsSw
valid zephyr
alt turn will be given the correct animations one day. It will involve shuffling the feet round rather than pivoting on one leg.
viral creek
That could be a good reference for the new alt turn anims actually
cyan flame
Just look at the cerato for animations, it actually does step, even while alt turning
Granted, it's not perfect, but at least the cerato is sort of moving, not just spinning
brittle bough
playing cerato
sacred wyvern
alt turn is coming 0w0
brittle bough
ive never seen ceratos alt turn actually, ill give it a peep sometime
jovial skiff
pivoting feet for alt turn sounds pretty cool tbh
sacred wyvern
i wonder what gigas alt turn animation be like 0w0
brittle bough
also an option lul
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CxMKEx6bZo&t=28s
barren zephyr
it will be lightning quick @sacred wyvern
lament thorn
So anyone got any other suggestion they want to discuss?
pulsar lake
But dinosaurs don't walk like that
brittle bough
it was a jest.
pulsar lake
They need to do like the austrich not like an human
brittle bough
it was. a fucking joke.
pulsar lake
Oh ok
north hemlock
mighty girder
Imagine complaining about not having an alt turn feature and then continuing to play on servers that have it disabled
brittle bough
"if only there was a way to get away from this cliff," cried the lad to the official discord
brittle bough
i did actually catch staff saying why they were disabled on nublar, its because of rex's bb being op
so maybe once combat is better, that pocket of people wont be so hostile to alt turn
mossy sapphire
proof or fake news
brittle bough
? proof of what the nublar staff said?
mighty girder
I'd rather take my chances with rex bb being op then have a utah eat my ass apart just because I can't turn as quick as it
or get stuck because I cant turn around from a cliff or a tree
brittle bough
to be fair if you look behind you or straight down you can bite with your ass on rex lmao
umbral prairie
that would make sense, but disabling it because of rex makes everything else unbalanced, so I personally would keep it enabled, even if it makes rex stronger
but it is at least a reason
that is not 'dinos aren't ballerinas'
mighty girder
But anyways, point is if you choose to play on a server with alt turn disabled, you really lose your right to complain about not having it because your CHOOSING to not have it. Make the suggestion in that server to turn it back on or play somewhere else
pulsar lake
I'm in many server without alt turn and I prefer that when ass riding is not alowedd
north hemlock
yea but rules are dumb
brittle bough
ive never been on a server with no alt that didnt permit assriding, wonder what thats like
north hemlock
how are you supposed to fight in a server like that
hit and run can be a pain in the ass
sometimes
brittle bough
i like nublar's contesting rules, thats namely why i play it
lament thorn
Rules keep us safe from the crazy people
north hemlock
some rules make sense but alot of them dont
pulsar lake
I make that. As allo I killed rex on biting them one time, go away and restart the operation.
umbral prairie
rules are really the worst solution, a games mechanics should make you do things, not some rules. That is why the rules on officials will go away as soon as possible, they're only there until there are mechanics to replace them
pulsar lake
Same with all dinosaurs
brittle bough
yeah, the game's ultimate goal is to not need external rules other than "dont hack/cheat/exploit", but missing or broken mechanics prevent that
umbral prairie
imagine rules in other games, a shooter that allows you to choose a super OP weapon but then people report you if you do
what kind of game design would that be
pulsar lake
So we need a system like in JWE for population in your group, new alt turn mechanic, disagrement of your dinosaurs about kos, except youn of your species as carnivore, and a lot of other mechanics
brittle bough
still, TI and shooters are quite different; TI has the added issue of somehow enforcing somewhat natural behavior upon a bunch of rowdy kids lmao
pulsar lake
Animals don't kill for nothing
north hemlock
lol no
brittle bough
i mean, they do
north hemlock
kosing is fun
lament thorn
I mean some do
brittle bough
wolves surplus kill, i know those off the top of my head
mossy sapphire
whales kill for fun
brittle bough
probably others lol
lament thorn
Dolphins too
pulsar lake
The only animals who kos are cats, orca and human. After other kill young and other of their species because it's concurrence.
lament thorn
If you let a pack of wolves into a sheep pen they will kill them all
north hemlock
false
pulsar lake
A lion won't kill 4 wild beasts
north hemlock
if they could they would
brittle bough
but yeah, this is a game in the end, not nature; fun is the priority, not realism. all this is pretty irrelevant
north hemlock
^
mossy sapphire
If you put a chihuahua in a pin of humans it would kill them all
brittle bough
people also tend to go down after a bullet or two but that doesnt stop most shooters lol
pulsar lake
They focus on one and will try to kill another one later if they can.
lament thorn
But yeh it's a game so realism needs to come after balance
brittle bough
fun > balance > realism, basically
north hemlock
i just want the game to have fun and not have stupid mechanics/rules
be fun*
fuc
lament thorn
An allo pack shouldn't mascara a herd even if they can or want to simply because they would be screwing themselves over in the long run
mossy sapphire
didnt they take out sandbox awhile back 
fun > balance >realism ?
brittle bough
..wut
mighty girder
no?
lament thorn
Which is why AI really needs to be changed to stop spoon feeding them
mighty girder
sandbox is still there
brittle bough
sandbox is.. still readily accessible. whatre you on about?
mossy sapphire
I didnt say it was still gone lol
mighty girder
they never got rid of it
brittle bough
isnt the only mode they removed at any point prog?
pulsar lake
After animals can kill another for defend themselves, for eat or eliminated concurence as carnivore or herbivore, not for nothing except intelligent animals.
You won't see a buffalo kill a young lion who was a the other side of the river or lake, only if he is close (like 150 meters around) and on the same side.
mossy sapphire
@mighty girder They did a long time ago, a lot of people were complaining
north hemlock
bruh moment
north hemlock
i literally cant understand you lol
brittle bough
tbh a buffalo wouldnt have any reason not to kill a young lion who's anywhere nearby. that young lion being allowed to live and grow is just another predator who will come for them or their children lol
pulsar lake
Many people don't like you x)
lament thorn
Also can we stop using Kos when talking about killing for sport?
There's nothing wrong with seeing something and killing it
brittle bough
is that at blue or levi lol
south flower
Don’t get off topic with insults.
mossy sapphire
Isnt kosing for sandbox servers thoguh
north hemlock
no
lament thorn
Also buffalo go on hunting parties to kill lion cubs
So people complaining about a Maia or dibble killing their Juvie allo need to stop using realism
pulsar lake
If the babies is alone and in a close range like 150 meters around or a little bit more
brittle bough
in nature, a herbivore literally has no reason at all to politely let it's predator live if it has the opportunity to kill it. letting that predator live will only allow it to hunt it later.
but again, this is a game, not real life and nature. fun must be prioritized, and to prioritize and permit fun for both herbivores and carnivores, limits must be placed on kfsing, namely by things like affinity.
pulsar lake
How did we come to Kfs from Alt turn ?
brittle bough
uhhh
lament thorn
Magic
brittle bough
probably alt turning making killing easier or something like that, i dont know lmao
lament thorn
Speaking of killing and alt turn
What's your thoughts on herbis having some sort of defence for their behind?
Think I saw a suggestion for hip/tail shoving
brittle bough
humm, im not totally sure about that. i generally dont make suggestions for combat because i only ever really play on nublar with occasional trips to dm, so most of my experience is with no alt lol. i've not a good grasp on combat outside of "yeah nah no alt isnt that great if youre the one being ridden"
a hip shove that maybe very briefly staggers carnivores but does low damage could work for herbis who dont have flexible enough tails to whip them?
lament thorn
Yeh since we are getting collision and a combat system I wasn't sure if they would be needed? But I feel like for some situations (like getting mobbed by a pack) it might be useful to just try and get them off you
mental sleet
Trample them.
lament thorn
That works too
mental sleet
also depends a lot on how high the damage you can take on the legs post-locational works.
all a Maia herd would need to do to kill a pack of utahs would be to just stampede in their general direction
brittle bough
can confirm i played a dinosaur game where everything had trample and i spawned in as a juvi in the path of a mass full speed maia migration
felt like god damn mufasa
brittle bough
era of terror lmao, 's roblox's version of the isle essentially
mental sleet
lul
brittle bough
kinda shit but i had 2gb of ram to work with
lament thorn
Please clarify what you just said
brittle bough
i think levis saying herbis should have lowered affinity from loitering around corpses to discourage corpse guarding
pulsar lake
It's herbivore stressed by a body
valid zephyr
what i don't get is all these people obsessed with making sure 3 maia don't kill a random dilo walking by, but 15 strong allo packs wiping all they see and not even eating it is just fine.
brittle bough
uhhh
mental sleet
It isn't fine, but comrade
valid zephyr
carnis KoSing is a problem too
mental sleet
the fix to that is much easier
if they have 15 allosaurus it's because they can sustain 15 allosaurus
pulsar lake
I will rewrite that.
lament thorn
All I think
brittle bough
thing is, a large part of why giant packs of carnivores are so sustainable is the busted ai
once ai is fixed, big packs will have to be more skilled, and will be more prone to starving out
pulsar lake
The only one who will be able to eat other of his species will be Cerato
wintry cipher
it should not punish apexes so as to encourage them to be openly competetive of one another and keep the numbers down
lament thorn
When did you hear this?
mental sleet
we don't know Levi.
pulsar lake
It was said in a dev stream
brittle bough
i do have the vague memory of cannibalism being discouraged, but im not entirely sure about it's details
mental sleet
Ah.
affinity hit when eating bodies from your own kind
probably as simple as this
pulsar lake
And only dinosaurs who will be able to eat rotten ribs will be cerato too
brittle bough
aye, and cerato is meant to be the scavenger of all things, regardless of quality or nature, so it would probably be able to eat other ceratos
lament thorn
It's gonna eat bones too?
(Still on the cannibal thing I wish for apexes to still be able to do it no problem to help encourage fights)
grave karma
or atleast a smaller hit to affinity
pulsar lake
So, for stop corps guarding herbs, we can have a system with affinity than a corps make them stress quickly and for regain their confort and affinity they need to go out of the place.
More body are here more the stress will be intensified.
north hemlock
i dont really see a point in punishing cannibalistic behavior
🤔
its just another thing that happens
brittle bough
me neither tbh but if it's the devs vision, ehh
lament thorn
I guess cause a lot of animals don't do it that often?
brittle bough
i guess that could be the way to discourage pack-killing?
pulsar lake
Yes it is
brittle bough
thats why then lol
brittle bough
again the goal is to enforce 'rules' without needing external rules and moderation, unless youve got a better idea to prevent pack-killing
pulsar lake
The only know as he won't be punish is cerato
valid zephyr
how do you prevent random troll utahs suiciding into trike nests and ruining all their affinity?
lament thorn
I guess animals not cannibalising will make more opportunities for scavengers
pulsar lake
After probably rex and giga will be able too
pulsar lake
Trike will move of this place
north hemlock
😔
lament thorn
I don't really have an issue with pack killing tbh
pulsar lake
Yes but we don't know who is an ass holes and who is not
lament thorn
Don't play with random people that you don't trust?
pulsar lake
I do @lament thorn
brittle bough
"have friends" isnt a viable solution for gameplay lmao
brittle bough
yes but thats what blue said.
lament thorn
I said that you don't trust
brittle bough
so how do you determine on the spot whether you can trust random people
pulsar lake
After if you don't have any friends on the isle who play on official it will be hard
north hemlock
its easy to tell when someone is blood thirsty in chat or othewise
lament thorn
Some people instantly give off 'let's not' vibes
north hemlock
^
lament thorn
If the other person doesn't talk or respond I take that as a hint
And if we somehow end up starving I make sure to turn on them first
fathom harness
@willow zealot 🇾 🇪 🇸 🇵 🇱 🇪 🇦 🇸 🇪
subtle adder
Lmao
viral creek
is it bad that a judge wether i do or do not want to group with a person based on their skins
i only want to group with good lookng dinos. unless i actually know them lol
thorny lynx
I'm that person who wears camo in survival and in sandbox.
brittle bough
im terrible at stealth anyway so i just like to have a laugh and be solid white sometimes lel, i might try to take it more seriously after the recode tho, at least for a bit
i also dont often play with groups so at least my vanilla ass isnt bogging anyone down except for my friend who yells at me
blazing charm
Can someone give me a tl;dr of that paper
jovial skiff
I think his trying to say that the "Axe" biting technique wasn't what allosaurus probably hunted like
unborn quail
@blazing charm Allosaurus adopted a bite style more reminiscent of monitor lizards then an actual axe bite
blazing charm
Oh yeah, I remember you told me this.
unborn quail
fathom harness
@barren zephyr Great idea! Especially with how little sexual dimorphism there is between Male and Female dinosaurs. It can be hard to tell if they are female or male, which will make nesting so much harder once you need both to nest.
pure copper
The axe motion is within its capacity to do technically but its unlikely given it doesn’t make sense in terms of being efficient and could result in needless tooth loss if it strikes back bone. Just plain biting and ripping is better.
south flower
I’m actually curious about something - why are so many against allowing herbivores to sniff while trotting or walking? Would that not be more helpful to herbivore players? Almost every time I see someone make a suggestion for it, there’s people who are against it.
lament thorn
A main reason I've seen people against it so to limit them in being able to track
south flower
Huh, I suppose I never considered herbivores actively tracking down carnis.
valid zephyr
yeah it sucks, but you've always got to consider how will people abuse this 😦
pale kite
yeah, its not as bad as shants in the isle when prog wasa thing but, shants, trikes, you name it. they will actively track carnis sometimes
@south flower
grand brook
but i feel like it's unnecesary to have to stop, sniff, then move again, which takes a short while to find food because a couple of idiots decide to fuck with others. It's the same with people who say nerf this herbie or whatever, the problem is not the stats or the dinosaur itself, it's the fact that the base game as of now has no way to counter cunty behaviour.
just remove the ability to smell footprints while moving then
problem solved
brittle bough
different levels of sniff depending on movement could be an interesting concept, like
idle - all (water, food, footprints, blood) stays longer (assuming scent can be manually turned off at this point if it's still visually invasive like current water)
walking - all (shorter duration than idle)
trotting - water, food, footprints (if carni)
running - maybe exclusively blood by carnis? very short duration. ive always found it a little silly that a carnivore can't smell blood while it's running something down and presumably breathing heavily, but it may make it too hard to get away, so eh. all else fails, maybe smelling blood while running could just be a thing for bleeders like dilo/giga
ionic comet
Would become a bit confusing and tedious
grand brook
i would just keep it simple, if you are a herbivore you can sniff while walking but not trotting, and when you do you can only smell food and water, but no blood or footprints
sick crescent
Yeah
Herbivores should need to stand still to sniff blood and footprints
Footprints are mostly important for anything
Not even to chase down
You can go up to a corpse and sniff for footprints next to it, it can help identify the carnivore/killer and if it’s been there recently.
barren zephyr
Nice suggestion @azure arch it would be nice to be able to tell what's in the area by sniffing tracks. It would also be a good pass time during the long boring nights.
paper oriole
"scavenger like tyrannosaurus" lol
oak shale
@valid flower
valid flower
Well what ever the fuck it is
It's broken
I got killed by its tail
Infact, i wasnt even near its tail
blazing charm
That's already going to be resolved in the recode.
Pretty sure you've already posted something like this in suggestions, multiple times.
valid flower
I hope so
valid zephyr
@native vault You have to be more specific. Simple 'buff' or 'nerf' posts are not allowed.
oak shale
Kinda want to know what people think about my suggestion
seeing as no one’s reacted to it
so that I could probably improve it later
fading shadow
if no one reacts they dont care
oak shale
oak shale
fathom harness
@oak shale You said only for Alberto, right? Sort of limits the idea unless if there is a specific reason for JUST Alberto be capable of doing it. Also, this would imply that there would be some sort of armor mechanic too. And, would there be a seperate bar to show it? Why not have this attack take stamina instead? Would it be primarily for pack hunting or lone hunters in design? I would assume pack hunting since it seems difficult to perform and could give an opportunity to the opponent to kill them. Also, what would the debuff be called? Armor negation maybe, sort of like how there is bone break? It's an interesting idea but needs to be a bit more fleshed out, but that's just my opinion. 😃
Would it be a bite or a different animated attack?
oak shale
I mean
most people want Alberto as a glass cannon crusher
so I was mainly thinking of mechanics that could help it fit that role
As a crusher I thought being able to take out stuff like armour more effectively than say allo or carno would fit @fathom harness
As for the animation it’s self
it would be a bite animation
but different to a regular one
a lot more telegraphed as I had stated
Like rearing up to slam it’s jaws down on its victim
face plant 
The name of the mechanic was in bold
plate strike
because
you know.
Plates as in bone plates
Osteoderms
and such
umbral prairie
I don't really like the idea of alberto being a glass cannon
fathom harness
Ah I see.
Also, Cerato could have it.
Since it's sort of a worse version of Allo.
umbral prairie
yeah I know
I just don't see why alberto would be a glass cannon
maybe it is an idea to make it more different from allo, but it's not a good one imo
fading shadow
alberto is a glass cannon bc unlike trex most tyrannosaurs are skinn bitches that bite hard
that including alberto
so it could have high speed low health with an impressive bite but unable to take the hits a sucho or sub rex could
@umbral prairie
oak shale
@fathom harness Didnt really think about cerato, because supposedly it’s getting the scavenger niche
And so wouldn’t really need mechanics involving crushing and being able too tear through thick hide
shell garnet
guys im kinda new on the game. is there a way to play as spino or quetzal?
indigo sun
Spino yes, in sandbox servers
Quetz, not anymore
lilac swallow
@formal vine even ignoring real Life from a balance stand point a creature that needs to wait to prey to come needs a slow hunger drain
pulsar lake
Deino should have a slow hunger drain because he will not have many occasion to hunt so he need to survive.
valid elk
Anyone wanna discuss my Deinosuchus ideas?
mental sleet
for the first portion of your suggestion
wouldn't making certain water sources murky do the trick ?
random knoll
I don’t think it would as deinos head sticks out
valid elk
Well, it won't matter if a Deinosuchus' head pokes out
random knoll
Unless you can get colours that match perfectly to the water
valid elk
The logs and rocks would provide a lot of cover for any crocodilian animals
mental sleet
Hm.
random knoll
I would assume you would be able to get into an ambush like position if you press crtl that would make your head dip under water ready to ambush
random knoll
I would assume you would be able to maybe slightly blurred
mental sleet
If you can see from underwater
You do not need cover on the water's surface, making it murky will do.
Otherwise, cover may be needed.
random knoll
You would if your head was popping out
But I’m guessing they’ll have a way for you to dip your head under
valid elk
I assume the swampy areas would provide good cover, but places like lakes will be harder. Maybe if the water was muddy or something?
random knoll
Dead trees that have fallen into the river and are sticking up could help
As well as being places for juiv deinos to hide in
mental sleet
Could work.
blazing charm
@versed olive Out of curiosity, what would this new name be?
random knoll
Dead trees and logs that are in the water would make for some nice hiding spots if were able to go inside them
blazing charm
Now, while this is kind of a #paleotalk talk thing, but I genuinely can't seem to find any evidence for this. Plus scientific accuracy isn't really a major priority for this game, last I checked.
versed olive
Seen at the Field Museum in Chicago.
I know scientific accuracy is not the primary objective, but thought I share.
blazing charm
Is it entirely possible that said Mueseum exhibit is just outdated?
Like, i'm no expert on the subject but I can't find anything claiming Alberto isn't a thing anymore.
indigo sun
I cant find anything about alberto getting renamed completely. I did find something about an immature specimen of alberto thought to be a part of a third specimen of daspleto but this wasnt universally accepted
It says "this skeleton"
lilac swallow
Strike you are Nines right? Just to know
indigo sun
That skeleton in the field museum used to be called albertosaurus, but was re-examined
Yeah im nines
blazing charm
Also, no point in changing anything about Alberto until it's implemented in Survival.
lilac swallow
Ok ty
indigo sun
@versed olive i believe you might have gotten confused with the wording. The specimen in particular that's in the field museum was renamed, not albertosaurus itself.
versed olive
@indigo sun ok, that makes sense. 😬
I live in the US since 4 years, but English isn't my native language after all.
valid elk
I mean like, the problem as a crocodile is that your prey has to mistake you for a log or you hide under
random knoll
Hmm
valid elk
I assume the newer map coming out will have plenty of them
brittle bough
they have emphasized how hope will definitely accommodate water bois, so i would imagine more water debris and foliage would be a part of that
random knoll
Need me some logs to hide in
valid elk
Need me some banks to rest in
Which reminds me, how does everyone feel about the standing Deino?
fading shadow
@versed olive fucc them scientists
indigo sun
That was cleared up, CC. It wasnt actually renamed, the specimen frank had seen was re-examined and renamed
versed olive
@indigo sun would have loved if they used different wording, like "formerly identified as" or something. Sorry for the confusion, but I appreciate the quick and plentiful feedback. 👍
teal grotto
@left storm elder stage would be a thing and my guess it would be used to face the hypos and other elders..
My guess Ancient
indigo sun
ALREADY TAKEN CARE OF
barren zephyr
Gorgosaurus is still a different genus
barren zephyr
Oh okay
brittle bough
i think packmates having the same color footprint as your own (based on the previous suggestion of having your footprints be a different color) would suffice well enough. a 'youre all together, you should smell fairly similar' sort of thing
indigo sun
uh wrong channel i think fluff
paper oriole
doesnt need to be any easier to survive as juv rex than it currently is
half mist
Aren't apexes already supposed to be incredibly hard because the apexes are so strong?
paper oriole
yeah, which currently isnt the case
half mist
#10HourApexes
barren zephyr
yes but making their food/water drain fast as a juvi seconds after you spawn is a bit over kill
brittle bough
considering ai spawns in your mouth, i think youll be able to manage it one way or another
after ai is changed we can talk about hunger drain lul
in general though i do think the water/thirst drains should be swapped, hunger always seems to drain like vastly faster than thirst, which Displeases Me
paper oriole
ive always made it to water in time when ive played one, and i suck
and juv rex is fully capable of hunting ai
ai literally runs towards you
barren zephyr
ai doesn’t always spawn @brittle bough
brittle bough
ai will spawn at about 75% hunger or less, if you stay in one area
if you travel constantly youll outwalk it's spawning
barren zephyr
you gotta travel to find stuff
brittle bough
like what? find some water and just sit in a tree nearby, ai will spawn around you eventually
barren zephyr
Certain spawns aren’t close to water, that’s the problem
paper oriole
you SHOULD have to travel tbh, but right now it's an afk game to grow an apex
basically any place will spawn AI, there are a few exceptions like inside swamp and canyon on thenyaw
brittle bough
wym certain spawns, its based on you, they arent preset locations
ive noticed that sometimes if youre sitting all the way in water then ai is a little more reluctant to spawn, but other than that its pretty consistent in just about all areas
if you wanna test it, get a utah over to gulf pond, sit on that rock you can jump up next to the waterfall, and just wait there. AI will spawn without fail, go down, eat it, go back up, enjoy your life as a rocktah. same applies for other carnis
half mist
It'd be nice if certain AI spawned in certain regions
But what I'd really like most is just more diversified AI
brittle bough
ai will be changed after the recode, so we can look forward to something that isnt this lol
brittle bough
acro and possibly shant? not sure are going to be ai, so theres that
half mist
Shant would be a good target for apexes
Big Rex or Giga groups
While I can see Acro as the thing keeping apexes from growing
sick crescent
@tepid wing if you mean an Isle server, there’s a lfg section you can post it in on the steam forums.
cursive wind
@half mist take a look in suggestion ive got you covered bud
grand brook
@cursive wind but...diatrima is a herbivore
indigo sun
Yup
cursive wind
ah but this was not true of all terror birds it seems
@grand brook i have edited my suggestion to use Phorusrhacos instead, a terror bird which was a carnivore
elfin oyster
Is the postosuchus a good Idea?
half mist
Well we’ve got Rauisuchus deep in the depths of The Isle’s past models
elfin oyster
Oh wow, but if its old and stuff its probs scrapped, which is a shame
half mist
Yea, that’s the shitty part
It would’ve made for an interesting early tier though
Certainly has all the qualities you’d expect of a low tier predator
It was pretty big and heavy
Just a bit lighter than Austroraptor
neat flicker
Replays will be fixed either with the recode, or sometime after the recode.
This is the discord for the official servers for The Isle, there is a LFG section on the forums for you to post and advertise your own server @tepid wing
indigo sun
Hey op. Did flytiger's suggestion get removed?
neat flicker
Which one was that
indigo sun
I think it was about giants in the isle but i'm not entirely sure
neat flicker
i'm pretty sure that wasn't the one, I did delete his suggestion though as it was a blanket statement and not one that followed the allowed format
indigo sun
Which one was that one? All i remember is giants
neat flicker
I can't remember exactly but it was one of the suggestions that said add x without explanation or substance
indigo sun
"Add giants to the isle like in skyrim i wanna hit a rex with a club" seems to fit with its lack of substance
neat flicker
Oh, Gar deleted that one
indigo sun
That was a weird one
barren zephyr
What do you all think about fish ai as extra food for aquatic creatures like the sucho or bary or spino?
indigo sun
Fish are already planned
indigo sun
Is sub giga slow enough that you cant just run from a damn potato?
paper oriole
also, do your think your sub giga would have been better off against 3 trikes lol nah
indigo sun
And also how is changing trike limits gonna help them not murder you? Not like they'll suddenly be nice and not kill you before you get the chance do kill them
jovial moss
They're just salty they let themself get caught by the slowest thing in the universe
indigo sun
That situation is not changing because there's less trikes in a herd
jovial moss
clearly the only option is nerf trike to 1 km/h
paper oriole
shouldntve been sitting out in the open lol
i praise that herd, we got too many rexes and gigas slithering around on every active server
indigo sun
Honestly yeah good on those trikes
jovial moss
always kill sub rexes and gigas when you have the chance
paper oriole
doing the world a favour
jovial moss
There's nothing more satisfying then destroying a sub rex as a pachy
sweet sweet justice
paper oriole
one time i found an afk sub giga as a galli and kicked it to death while it sat there unawares
jovial moss
LOL
paper oriole
should galli be nerfed too
jovial moss
nerf galli to 1 kg
paper oriole
make galli break his leg each time he kicks
indigo sun
Yes clearly cmon have some common sense you killed one thing you clearly need a nerf
jovial moss
but give it 10000 damage so if it hits anything it 1 shots
paper oriole
swap galli and trike stats
paper oriole
perfect
valid zephyr
How do people get caught by trike?
valid zephyr
Also imo you shouldn't be going for a full strength apex herbi herd. You should be looking for weaker herd or individuals.
Rex and giga can choose when to engage and when to leave. Trikes don't get that benefit.
grave karma
trike's only choice is to fight
even the slowest predator can outrun trike
adult predators that is
barren zephyr
Trike should beat apexes 1v1
head on i mean
60/40 Trike vs Rex
70/30 for trike vs giga
valid zephyr
As allos we managed to separate a sub trike from its two parents and bring it down. That's how carnis should be playing imo. Not seeing a max size herd of the strongest herbis in the game, walking in, and killing the lot.
brittle bough
yeah trike should beat everything in a facetank lol, thats its whole thing
valid zephyr
With locational trike should beat rex in facetank. Rex should try to get behind (or ambush from behind), and bite the neck.
barren zephyr
fucking disgusting. fuck rexes and gigas
grave karma
@barren zephyr dino posted a sound file that toyed with progresively distorted calls, so it's a possibility
barren zephyr
when
barren zephyr
ah nice
cursive wind
can i get some feedback as to why adding this would be bad?
the Kelenken
valid zephyr
I think it just doesn't suit the theme. Terror birds are cool, but they're too recent to fit in game.
umbral prairie
it doesn't fit the there and idk what it would really do
what dilos and utahs wouldn't do
still temple
doesnt add anything new to the game
cursive wind
as an ai specifically
umbral prairie
it would play like a utah with maybe a tiny bit more damage and no pounce
cursive wind
it would make the world alittle more dangerous
umbral prairie
even as AI it wouldn't really fit the theme
still temple
why spend 7k+ on a new model just to have it as AI
when we already have plenty of candidates
cursive wind
well i feel that the ai for carnivores is woefully underfulfilled
we just have the velo essentially and they are only a threat to lone juvies for the most part
still temple
still doesnt justify the addition of Keleken
umbral prairie
there are other options that already have a model and that fit the theme more
cursive wind
such as?
umbral prairie
look at every carnivore we have in sandbox only, alberto might come into survival, austro or herrera aswell
and either austro or herrera could be AI too
slate nimbus
We have a game where trexes and stegosaurs can interact, which they could have never do in the past due to being millions of years away. Also humans and genetic engineering. A terrorbird does not sound weird to me at this point. But either way, I too agree that there isnt enough challenging carnivorous AI out there.
lament thorn
isnt terror bird just a worse utah?
slate nimbus
Idk but utahs are playable. Unless survival dinos get AI too, the utah cant take the spot people hope for terrorbirds/other dinosaurs to be an AI
lament thorn
pretty sure there the survival dinos will have ai too
slate nimbus
Really? I never heard of that before
lament thorn
since Don mentioned wanting people to not be able to know if they are ai
that doesnt work if they only non playables
slate nimbus
Ooooh that does sound promising
tender latch
@oak shale, you can go to the next line down by pressing Shift+Enter so you don't have to type multiple messages.
oak shale
Ik
tender latch
rip
oak shale
Lol
grave karma
im really hoping you mean the actual dinosaur
and the $100 donation would mean nothing to the thousands of dollars they have to spend to add a dinosaur in
indigo sun
It's gonna take a bit more than $100 to add in a creature in the isle @glossy flower
glossy flower
Starts gofundme*
Also I'm talking about the regular looking tyrannosaurid from the 1991 Godzilla va King Ghidorah
indigo sun
I highly doubt they'd legitimately add in a fake kaiju-dinosaur thing regardless of copyright
You could make an infinitely better case for gojirasaurus
vestal rune
obviouslly there's a dino named after godzilla
don't see the reason in adding it though
glossy flower
Too bad it's not too interesting
pale prairie
@valid flower well if everything goes to plan, we won't have "fresh adults" anymore, the juvenile model will morph into the full adult.
https://www.twitch.tv/thedondi/clip/AffluentTameSnoodDeIlluminati?filter=clips&range=24hr&sort=time
better example > https://clips.twitch.tv/ImportantDeterminedPterodactylMrDestructoid
pale tinsel
pale prairie
what? ehh if you found a random clip on dons twitch page, there should be a date.
if you're talking about this one, it's 7 months old. https://clips.twitch.tv/ConfidentAssiduousPorcupineSMOrc
barren zephyr
@barren zephyr pretty sure we already have that but i dont consider it a biome
paper oriole
birch trees in isle are my worst enemy lol
outer nebula
@inner glen they are testing the aquatics with deino to see what they can and cant do with aquatic creatures
barren zephyr
@prisma bluff maybe a troodontid
glossy tangle
lilac swallow
Yeah yeah
native vault
Not really.
You can facetank a Trike as a Rex and win.
Trike needs its old turn radius back
lilac swallow
Almost the whole isle community (which is very carni biased) agrees on trike being a joke, It has to be right
crystal minnow
@barren zephyr i like the suggestion but i see a problem with apex babies have a very easy time surviveing when being carried by adults.
native vault
@lilac swallow and that's just dumb. Herbis need to be able to defend themselves
Irl Trike would just stab a Rex
native vault
The Isle ain't focusing on realism
lilac swallow
And we know who the slower is
barren zephyr
@crystal minnow herbi juvies are actually very easy to kill even while being protected. I do it all the time with dilos and carnos
native vault
and the fact it cant defend itself against a rex is just dumb
lilac swallow
If It cant scape It should fight but trike cant really do neither
native vault
Agreed.
lilac swallow
You would like to hear that almost everyone agrees on trike needing to defend itself
native vault
So the isle is just carni biased as you've said before and I agree
I like to play as a Carni
lilac swallow
And even being carni biased the community stills agrees on trike
crystal minnow
@barren zephyr yes and this is fine for an Apex carni
native vault
It's literally just useless rn
barren zephyr
I rarely play herbivores because there is no gameplay. But Trike takes far too long to grow just to be a free meal to the first rex to see you. I would never play trike.
lilac swallow
Yeah but anky isnt balanced currently as It isnt on survival devs dont really care about its balance
native vault
I love Trike and it would be amazing if it would be able to defend itself
lilac swallow
I do play both carni and herbi almost equally
native vault
It's kinda rare to see a Trike
lilac swallow
True
lilac swallow
You know why? Not just because Rex is more popular is just because It is viable solo while a solo trike is doomed to die
native vault
Smh.
barren zephyr
Or add Shant to protect the trikes
lilac swallow
Justake trike protect themselves
native vault
Yeah.
lilac swallow
Dont want to depende on another player
native vault
I hope it will be better after the recode is done.
lilac swallow
Colision and locational dmg is supposed to help trike a lot
barren zephyr
Once collision is added
native vault
Trike's stomp gives a lot of dmg but
lilac swallow
As no one will be able to run throught you and your head will be dmg resistant
native vault
@barren zephyr The Isle doesn't even use hitboxes. It has been set up to use the psychical collision.
@barren zephyr
barren zephyr
@oak shale that’s a brilliant idea! Will also make it so players to not always stay hidden in water. They must come out and be exposed a little as well.
Anyways I meant that dino shouldnt be able to kill someone behind him etc
umbral prairie
will get probably fixed, or at least a lot better with the recode
I can't see why they wouldn't address one of the biggest problems of the game with it
neat flicker
The "hitboxes" or lack thereof will be fixed with the recode.
grave karma
shitboxes i think you mean
oak shale
@barren zephyr thanks
still temple
@native vault Microraptor is too small.
p. neimongoliensis is the smallest dino they'll ever add to the game, and it's still bigger than Micro
craggy scarab
@dim ore I’ve learned to periodically search discord messages by devs to see if they posted anything I might have missed haha
dim ore
lol i am new to this discord, i have missed out on a lot of the news . i will have to read up on the old posts . 😃
vestal rune
tbh I kinda hope they rework the combat system or add new alt turning animations before mod support is added, as then removing the option to disable alt turn would be useless
barren zephyr
@oak shale I like the idea. But rather than adding adding another bar, couldn't they just make it so deino has to bask to refill stam? Similar to Rex
@thorny lynx please dont request a nerf for juvie Cerato. It is already trash once it reaches adult. Atleast let it be decent as a juvie.
wintry zealot
Hello can i ask something? Can i install mods on the game?
odd idol
Currently no
blazing charm
@vital shadow That was the exact reason it was removed, because they were too cordinated, back in the day you just had these unhuntable herds roaming the server squashing anything that could ever possibly be a threat to them.
barren zephyr
I think trikes bleed resistance is good as it is. It’s not that it is bad, it’s just that Gigas have good bleed.
barren zephyr
@formal vine
But Tyrannosaurus is fine
Why "especially tyrannosaurus rex"?
Literally
stop nitpicking it
formal vine
Dondi is partial to tyrannosaurus
barren zephyr
Any developer whos partial to their favourite dinosaur would do alot of stuff for it
admit it yourself you would
The thing is that Tyrannosaurus does deserve its fame and reputation
its no joke its favourited.
valid zephyr
Yeah but game balance > all
formal vine
Yeah
formal vine
How is it fine?
formal vine
^
valid zephyr
Rexes only issues are bone break placeholder, and how easy all apxes are to grow due to low player density and spoon fed AI
formal vine
Did Dondi state that the recode will include balancing dinos?
valid zephyr
I've heard mention from a lot of people of a stat redo and how the stats even work
not sure if true
formal vine
And thus my suggestions
oak shale
@barren zephyr yeah, whilst still getting the buffs and benefits of basking possibly
umbral prairie
there are new systems for health, stam, bleed and bb already done
so I'm pretty sure they need to give everything new stats anyway
so why not balance it while doing so? Ofc it would take some time but maybe the QA can help with that
grand brook
i think the rex is easily the most remodeled dino in the game if i'm not mistaken
it has had 4+ models since the game came out
night mountain
Hinky is right tbh, SO many people get in trouble for memes and admins literally constantly have to deal with warning people about them theres no reason to not have a channel for it
would straight up clean up general a ton, even as is
grave karma
just like no offensive memes
umbral prairie
rex had 4 models?
I thought it was only TSL, the one we have now and one in between
umbral prairie
stego is also on it's second model now and will get a third
grave karma
so not easily the most remodeled
umbral prairie
maybe I'm forgetting a rex model though
one directly after TSL, I got the game when the rex before the current one was in
so idk if there was one before that that wasn't TSL
grave karma
nope
there used to be just tsl, then tsl and second rex model as playable, then tsl rex was removed
unless tsl got a rex remodel at one point
umbral prairie
don't think so
I just thought trike had 2 remodels but I think I just remember it wrong
probably confusing it with animation sets
neat flicker
There used to be a meme channel before and it was removed for a reason. This is an official discord server, this isn’t your place to post memes or anything like that. Every channel has its specific rule sets and you keep to that. If you want a place to post memes then make your own discord and invite your friends to it
There’s too many kids on here that’ll post offensive dumb memes constantly and it’ll be a spam fest.
indigo sun
1.) Congratumotherfuckinlations man youre an admin thats awesome good job
2.) Isnt it more of a hassle to have to constantly delete stuff from all the channels than deal with a few bad eggs in a single channel where things can be easily dealt with? You could make it specifically isle or dinosaur memes only
umbral prairie
I think there would be more inappropriate memes if they were allowed to be posted
neat flicker
There's barely people that post memes now that they've gotten the memo that I actively look at the channels and won't allow it. I'm sorry but I'm kind of bias against memes, only children like to post things like that, but I'm an older guy. If you want to post memes for your friends, make your own discord and invite your friends there and spam out your own server with it.
If there was a meme channel, everyone would be spamming it constantly with stupid crap and it'd have be watched all of the time
There's just way too many kids/teens/immature people on the discord for a meme channel to be allowed otherwise people will constantly spam it, throw one offensive/disgusting thing in there and spam it more to hide it
barren zephyr
did you get promoted
umbral prairie
how many members does this discord have
neat flicker
btw thanks for the congratulations @indigo sun
umbral prairie
I joined at 18000 members
valid zephyr
Use the isle reddit for memes.
neat flicker
^
umbral prairie
but idk how to see the current members
neat flicker
I don't think discord has an option without a bot yet
barren zephyr
idk a meme channel would been neat cause of the content drought imo
umbral prairie
I'll just send an invite to the discord somewhere so I see the members
you don't see the members on invites anymore -.-
valid zephyr
I do suspect the current chat issues will reduce once content starts coming again. I think people are just restless as nothing new to discuss.
So it's go round in circles or post memes.
neat flicker
^
wintry cipher
@vital shadow You do realize that's exactly why they cant group now right? because herbivore death squads became even more effective than carnivore death squads. The devs have been removing the capabilities of both sides to do that.
vital shadow
@wintry cipher That's why most servers have rules lol
wintry cipher
thats also why they have rules and changed the game itself rather than just put a rule of "dont group with species not your own"
umbral prairie
@thorny lynx pretty sure the recode will include new lighting
together with the new clouds
thorny lynx
But I want the old lighting back ;A,
umbral prairie
idk how similar it is to the old one, but it looks promising
also afaik a dev said the flickering shadows might get reduced a bit because of how the sun will work, but I'm not sure
blazing charm
New Lighting looks pretty fine to me from what we've seen on stream.
neat flicker
@thorny lynx The old lighting was a hamper on performance and they are redoing the lighting with the new map and more than likely might be included in the recode
spiral ravine
wonder if there is a plan to increase player cap on official servers after the recode?
bitter trench
If they fix the stabability on server caps, probably
bitter trench
I mean, server stabability can be a pretty big problem on big servers, so it's likely they will tweak it to work to a 500 cap max or more
Although official servers would probably have a cap of 300 if it were 500 max
spiral ravine
wait 500?
bitter trench
Eh, I don't know what max stable player cap they could make work for The Isle
It just needs to be higher than 200 and stable
200 is practically the max cap, anything above it is really hard to play on
Even then 200 has weird AI spawns and some lag
spiral ravine
yeah, so hopefully they're working on the network code
spiral ravine
if hope is planned to be bigger than v3
bitter trench
I hope it isn't
bitter trench
Hah, I play on a server that never has 100 people on
bitter trench
It's highest player count is in the 70s
spiral ravine
how do u find anything to kill lol
bitter trench
And they switched over to V3
Well, most people just live near a certain area I guess 🤷
spiral ravine
Kk
bitter trench
We're hoping for something bigger than Thenyaw and smaller than V3
bitter trench
I've heard mixed things about Hope
I've heard it will be like 3 V3s, it will be small, it will be medium, it will be large
I don't know what to believe
We just have to wait and see 🤷
(I've also heard dondi is making more than one map)
spiral ravine
yeah, recode cannot come any sooner
bitter trench
Atleast when the recode comes we should get practically a brand new game
They're tweaking adding and removing a lot
I'm going to play on a deathmatch server now, bye
still temple
I just hope maps will be carefully crafted and thought out
with resources spread over the map so that there aren't massive deadzones where no one goes to like in V3
barren zephyr
@formal vine Lets not make bleed cripple players too
because thats literally BB
for bleeders
they are bleeders
not crushers
vestal rune
@azure arch what's the point of that?
hasty parcel
Seems like way too much information
paper oriole
i think bodies should just have different marks to roughly show their cause of death
like claw marks, small or large bites, puncture wounds, or dulled skin for starvation/dehydrtion
we're dinos not detectives
hasty parcel
at least with that you'd have to use your own knowledge
which is what the point should be
we shouldn't just be given all that info on a platter
paper oriole
yeah like if it was large clws marks you could assume theri, spino, allo
just be able to determine if the cause of death is something in your league or not, not looking at a body and (queue NCIS investigation music) this para was killed by a male rex sub adult at 60% growth
inner kindle
Hey admins, there is a big problem of people abusing gamma, maybe you could make night as a layer of dark and only N could remove this layer, so no one could abuse gamma ingame.
vestal rune
thenyaw nights are pitch black, only night vision can clear it
idk why v3 nights aren't
paper oriole
hopefully new map is gamma abuse proof
vestal rune
@barren zephyr I don't think you understand how hypers work, they're not gonna play like creatures with the ability to nest, instead they'll be more like bio weapons which come into existance to just wreak mayhem and kill alot of creatures, and then die of starvation
also the devs already have an idea for how to obtain hypers which they'll keep secret from the public
grave karma
do we even know how we'll get hypers?
vestal rune
nope, we won't even know how to get it when they're ingame
the first person to get it will get it completely by surprise
barren zephyr
You will get to play as hypo when you reach Anthomnia type youtube status
vestal rune
I doubt anthomnia has the skills to become a hyper lmao
barren zephyr
He already has, all he has to do is ask one of the devs lol
vestal rune
he fucking needs to cheat with admin commands in order to not die
but, hypers aren't ingame yet...
they're just husks of what they're gonna be
barren zephyr
Yea for us there not
barren zephyr
Were just trash lol
vestal rune
they're not finished
barren zephyr
Finished or not.
vestal rune
yes it isn't finished, strains aren't ingame, just fancy models with big stats
they won't be ingame untill the mechanics for them are added and everyone has the capability to become one
the devs giving some famous people strains for fun does not count as obtaining one
barren zephyr
My point is, if your anthomnia status on youtube, you can actually have fun while waiting for the recode lol
vestal rune
so, you can only have fun if you have a strain?
wtf
stop being salty that anthomnia gets strains, it's good publicity for the isle and anthomnia, and having everyone be able to get it in the current state of the game would cause pure chaos
barren zephyr
Lol this guy
Btw that’s why the are crazy because imagine if more of these hyper creatures were being born most people would try to kill the source and because this killing machine is able to nest that means it will have more of its kind to kill other creatures
vestal rune
but that's bad
hypers aren't meant to be reproducing
the whole point is that a hyper appears, kills some things, and then dies
they're more like events then actual creatures
barren zephyr
Then there is no point at all
vestal rune
yes there is
barren zephyr
Just have a pack of gigas run around
vestal rune
hypers are literally designed to stop packs of apexes
barren zephyr
Or spinos
random knoll
what?
vestal rune
or huge groups of dinos
barren zephyr
But the apex packs would do the same thing
barren zephyr
What if there was no reproduction
vestal rune
I mean ye, that's what I'm saying
barren zephyr
So would u like my idea if there was no reproduction
vestal rune
I mean idk
I'm not sure how much people would like getting swooped down by some random flying hyper, atleast with the other hypers you can avoid them
in fact it's excactly that, for hypers the main challenge is finding food, as everything will be hiding, with a flying hyper it would be significantly more easier to do this
it's possible they may have plans for flying hypers, but idk
vestal rune
it doesn't really fit in with the idea of a hyper though
maybe it would be cool for some flying hunter, however making such a thing not incredibly frustrating for land dinosaurs would be hard
barren zephyr
I feel like that the trees should be made so flyers aren’t able to fly in them unless they are walking
Or have landed
vestal rune
well I imagine they'll have collision so a flyer would just crash into them
but there are still alot of open spaces
barren zephyr
Yeah but that way trees can be used as cover and if used properly it could eventually cause the hypo to starve
vestal rune
trees aren't a good enough fix, people are alot of the time forced to go into open spaces, especially apexes which give the most foods and are likely the easiest to kill for a flier
barren zephyr
And based on the reactions I’m getting u aren’t the only one who disagrees
vestal rune
ye, you simply didn't get the idea of hypers correct
lament thorn
they arent just a super powerful creature that co exists with everything else
vestal rune
ye I explained
it's annoying having multiple people rag on you about the excact same concept
lament thorn
I would love to see Tapwings designs come to life
vestal rune
tapwing's design can't fly lmao
well the quetz one, but I don't think she did a ptera one
lament thorn
ptera doesnt deserve strains
vestal rune
wow, way to roast ptera
vestal rune
more like the dryo
hera
austro
yes, it's the austro of the skies
dude imagine a hyper austro though
barren zephyr
meh ptera is supposed to be a chill flyer
vestal rune
chill flyer?
is that like, not attacking?
or not requiring much effort to grow?
I guess both are correct since it's small and fishes
lament thorn
I mean I assume it will be hard to grow unless it can fly straight away?
vestal rune
that's tiso
steady cosmos
yep
azure arch
@prisma bluff I'm with you, brother. I said that around a week before you did
valid zephyr
not a fan of the extra limbs
paper oriole
the extra set of wings makes it look like something out of avatar rather than a cool isle strain