which is good enough for me.
#general-feedback-discussion
dreamy portal
void zodiac
@dreamy portal thank you man for not going 10 feet up my ass for a suggestion like everyone else does 
dreamy portal
Seeing concept arts for new spinosaurus updates, the new island and the stegosaurus animations for it's eventual survival addition is a welcome change.
Even if i do think they are rad as shit.
void zodiac
Stego is nice though hope its finally a new survival HERBIE apex
night mountain
im stoked to see stuff on ptera too
void zodiac
Wait all hypos are carnivores so wheres the Herbie hypos D O N D EEE
Are we just AI to you
dreamy portal
lol at this point Hypos are more confusing than anything else
part of me ponders the usefulness of a hypo raptor when a hypo carno exists and can kill literally anything that breathes
but i'm sure it's a part of the game later where it's earnable
which makes it more understandable
night mountain
hypo utahs meant to be a big problem for humans, i think
void zodiac
it is part of the game M U C H L A T E R
dreamy portal
yeah as of right now i'm pretty happy with the current state of the game
they fixed a lot of the problems i had with it about.. 6 or 8 months back.
and overall it's a better place to play. I like seeing the game grow and improve.
unborn quail
The game itself will also see improvement after the recode
dreamy portal
i'm ready to see the aquatic improvements.
i think sucho's spinos being not only faster in water but encouraged to hang around it is a much better option.
shell willow
@void zodiac Apologies for the @, but they're just showing them off afaik. Behind the scenes, they're doing a lot of other things, so they keep us occupied with hypers.
dreamy portal
^ Which is accurate also
I can see Horse' frustration because for a bit there it was a bit of a "heres the hypo this, heres the hypo voice, heres the hypo walk animation, heres another hypo, etc etc"
with few actual player adjustments
but we're out of that loop and we're into good update territory
indigo sun
Giga does not need speed
barren zephyr
lord i wouldn't mind if they change to 31 but to 34 is too much
waxen elk
now it's just giga vs rex simulator
barren zephyr
but no still if that was a idea
waxen elk
Giving Giga speed just equals anything else getting instadeleted
barren zephyr
how about they nerf the rex speed to 32 or something so the succ would be viable
waxen elk
People don't realize Giga is fucking busted
But nah
Let's just look at the Giga's vs Rex matchup
indigo sun
There is no reason to give giga speed beyond "cant run away from rex!" If you got caught by a rex its your own fault for not paying attention.
Giga is far too strong as it is and does not need buffs. Rex has speed, giga has stamina. Giga should not have 34 km speed and have the trotting stam regen and stamina he has currently the fuck kinda drugs is that person on?
umbral prairie
gigas can just trot away from rexes if they are not like 50 meters away, and then giga can just sprint away unless the rex is 20 or 30 meters away
unborn quail
Rex only catches a giga by doing what it's supposed to do, being sneaky and closing the distance
barren zephyr
if they nerf the rex speed abit and nerf the giga speed abit and the trot then it would be good for mid tiers
unborn quail
It's fine for mid tiers as it is
indigo sun
Eh i think rex is fine right now
unborn quail
Only mid tier that suffers is sucho, and that's due to the whole water shit
spiral pond
Also nerf that giga alt turn
umbral prairie
bb is weird right now but that won't be like that for much longer
barren zephyr
i don't want succ tohave a giant speed buff
unborn quail
Nobody was saying that
spiral pond
Sucho can’t currently have big speed buff cause it could just run down dibbles
unborn quail
Doesnt need one regardless
spiral pond
Just saying
unborn quail
What It needs is actual use of the water
night mountain
suchos gonna be fine once fish are in
im for giving it a swimming speed buff though
barren zephyr
also make where the carno is not the fastest swimmer
spiral pond
Isn’t it slower in water then apexes ?
indigo sun
All land dinosaurs need to be slowed in water. With the exception of maybe trike cause that poor thing swims a centimeter an hour
night mountain
everything aquatic should be faster in water than everything terrestrial
yeah buff trikes swim speed too
its dumb as it is
barren zephyr
make trike swim even slower
night mountain
lol
barren zephyr
it would be nice xd
brittle bough
trike doesnt swim, it just sinks, the end
night mountain
make everyone even near a swimming trike swim slow too
barren zephyr
nah i think should be slow like utah but drain faast like packy stam very fast 
night mountain
make pue overflow any body of water it tries to swim in
including the ocean, just flood the whole server
barren zephyr
omg that would be good though xd
dreamy portal
my sides that people want to make the rex EVEN SLOWER
getting out walked by juvi's
can't regen stam
slow as fuck unless he wants to jump his fat ass on somebody from a bush
he's supposed to have small arms not shitty legs
as for trike speed
if you want to increase their speed you should make it where in a straight line they get faster but lose more stamina the longer they go in one direction
night mountain
a charge attack would be cool tbh
paper oriole
i could see pteras divebomb puking on people purely for shits and giggles if they had the ability
would probably mostly be used to troll, not as defense
umbral prairie
I think everything should be able to ram in a way, a running para should be able to ram a utah out of it's path or even shove an allo aside, but getting slowed a bit if they do so. Things like trike and diablo could of course do more damage with their horns and damage themselves less if they ram things, maybe pachy aswell
dreamy portal
it's all fun in games til someone accidentally squashes a baby
vagrant crest
Everytime i see a giga buff suggestion - Do they want this dino to be a god?
indigo sun
Yes they do, because they don't understand balance or how giga should work
I mean, sucks you get fucked over by rex but is it really that bad when you fuck over everything else?
jovial blade
Sucho needs better crouch walk speed
and trot
the run and ambush is pretty decent
Also the hunger pool needs a fix
It gets hungry fast, but it barely eats much
Im killing players and i can't even put a dent into their bodies because sucho barely eats anything
The body despawns
And maybe a slight stam increase
raven prism
Sucho has almost the highest stam cap
Its staam runs out about 20 seconds slower than carno
jovial blade
You're always on the run though
Never have enough stam
The trot is awful
You can barely get around the map
Half the gameplay is walking
vagrant crest
It regens 3% stam like every 5s and has a massive stam pool....
Can bully all mids
is just fast enough with enough stam that it can avoid apex's if it wants
raven prism
Yeah stam caap is too high in my opinion
vagrant crest
I think it's stam is fine considering Gigas
I actually think sucho is fine in general.
It's just that ppl opt out of it and raise a giga instead because it's only a little bit more time
For essentially the same dino with more power behind it
raven prism
Yeah
However, Acro needs a buff in my opinion
its supposed to be like a psuedo/sub-apex
indigo sun
@wild rose I see literally no reason to give gigas buffs. What's your reasoning?
vagrant crest
If I had one suggestion for the current sucho: lower it's growth time.
raven prism
yet it doesnt really match the stats with what it's supposed to be
vagrant crest
That's it.
wild rose
what no its so slow and looks so much smaller than rex even if it weights more
raven prism
Acro damage is way too low
wild rose
its like is is being pulled by someone
vagrant crest
Acro hasn't been touched because it's a sandbox dino.
wild rose
make it faster
indigo sun
It's not meant to be fast. It's meant to be an endurance predator
Making it faster only allows it to destroy mid tiers even more
raven prism
yeah
wild rose
it is slimmer than rex meaning it will be faster than it
vagrant crest
Make giga a rex but better
raven prism
if i didnt know any better, I would consider it almost on par with acro
wild rose
rex already destroys everything
indigo sun
Rex can be killed by smart mid and low tiers
wild rose
yeah i know that
indigo sun
Giga really cant be killed by mid or low tiers unless the player is dumb and/or playing on no alt turn servers
raven prism
while I understand rex is an apex and such
wild rose
it takes 10 min longer to grow a giga from juv than rex there is no reason a rex should be faster
and if it looks smaller it should be faster
vagrant crest
You've got to consider that they have two different roles.
raven prism
giga should have better stam or faster run
wild rose
it is ment to me slim
indigo sun
Rex is fast because it needs a quick burst of speed to catch prey
You're not considering balance here
vagrant crest
make giga a god
indigo sun
Giga literally regens stamina while trotting while rex doesnt
raven prism
Dont make it a god
vagrant crest
Giga also has a fast af trot
wild rose
@indigo sun yes i am considering balance because rex can catch a giga
that is not balanced
vagrant crest
It sure as shit is
Giga has one thing in the whole game to worry about
Rex has multiple
You're suggesting making giga king shit
wild rose
what???
raven prism
no really
indigo sun
Theres a thing called watching your surroundings and literally making sure you dont get caught by an ambushing rex. If you see a rex, start to fuckin move
Gigas dont get killed by really anything but rex
vagrant crest
(it already is)
raven prism
rex kills spino 99% of the time
vagrant crest
We play two different games.
raven prism
if a rex breaks a shant's leg
wild rose
i am talking about survival !!!
indigo sun
If you get killed by a rex as a giga because youre sitting there doing nothing, it's your own fault
raven prism
bam shaant pretty much dead
wild rose
do not talk about some spoon
vagrant crest
Giga "I let a rex get close and it hurt me"
wild rose
no way i run from every rex
indigo sun
You need to be aware of your surroundings and rex is meant to kill gigas
wild rose
how it trots gigas down
raven prism
Not really
wild rose
think about the trot
indigo sun
Uh what?
vagrant crest
Giga trot is the fastest trot in the damn game
indigo sun
How far away are you from these rexes hunting you
wild rose
legit 100ft away they have enought stam to catch up
vagrant crest
so sorry that you're allowing rex's to get within 100m of you
Not like they are walking billboards
wild rose
i said 100ft
craggy river
I think they should buff the sub giga or nerf the sub rex or something
wild rose
^^^^^^^^^
raven prism
also cerato juvie needs major fix
craggy river
Like why the hell is the sub rex the flash
raven prism
like its wayyyyyyyyyyy too op
craggy river
when the sub giga the god damn snail
indigo sun
Giga has more stamina, trotting stam regen, and a fast af trot. You need to start moving faster then, cause youre sure as shit gonna get caught by a rex 30 meters away
Subs, I will agree. but adult gigas do not need to be buffed whatsoever
raven prism
it can reck a sub rex
craggy river
Either buff the sub giga
or nerf
the god damn sub rex
@indigo sun
im talking about subs
vagrant crest
If anything Giga is the most overtuned apex
craggy river
idgaf a fuck about the adult
indigo sun
I just fucking said "Subs, I will agree" and I'm talking about the conversation we've been having for the past two minutes before you fuckin suggested anything about subs
raven prism
Full juvie cerato needs a nerf
vagrant crest
Umm no
raven prism
Yes
vagrant crest
Adult cerato just needs a buff
raven prism
It can reck sub rexes
vagrant crest
Bullshit
indigo sun
Where the hell are you getting this from?
raven prism
I watch it happen
indigo sun
Don't think that's a juvi then. Or just a dumb sub who doesnt know how to bite
vagrant crest
You can pass that off as a shooting star.
That's not the norm.
I can even go into DM with you and prove it
indigo sun
Hell, I'll join ya
raven prism
A .8/.8 Juvie cerato can reck sub rexes
vagrant crest
Fight me
raven prism
I've seen it happen multiple times
indigo sun
Vralen wanna hop on a deathmatch server and check this out real quick?
night mountain
i wouldn't be surprised
night mountain
a lone dilo can wreck rex if it can get under it's tail haha
indigo sun
Gonna call bullshit. Doesnt matter how much you bite as a cera, sub rex will kill you easily. We tested it twice
Juvi cerato bleeds out far too easily. It does not kill sub rexes that actually fight back
raven prism
it can kill fresh-mediu growth ones
indigo sun
Youre like, fighting back right? Also, just because a dinosaur kills a fresh subadult dinosaur does not mean it should get nerfed immediately. Far too many apexes as is, make their growth difficult for once
brittle ivy
@craggy river Next time please submit what you would change to a dinosaur in order to improve it. Simply stating ‘buff/nerf’ is not helpful to the development team. Your suggestion will be removed until a more adequate submission is made.
craggy river
ok
languid ember
Boi
paper oriole
hey guys what if
instead of buffing sub giga to be better, we also nerfed sub rex to shit so they are both equally as miserable and less people want to suffer through it 😄 😄 😄
craggy river
no
make sub giga better
and nerf sub rex
because the sub giga
is slow af
compared to the sub rex
i just want the sub giga to be faster
so i can at least out run a trike
@paper oriole and maybe they should also nerf the herbie limit
like they are doing now
indigo sun
What? What you got against herbivores?
paper oriole
whats that got to do with sub giga lel
indigo sun
Current herd limit is 15 now right? Cause a mega herd happened. I dont know of anyrhing more than that
indigo sun
Where did you hear that?
craggy river
Sly
languid ember
Why would someone purposely want to make dino gameplay bad
craggy river
?
indigo sun
Please provide evidence of that
languid ember
Making subs boring af and misserable is not the way to limit their numbers
indigo sun
And I see no reason to make herds even smaller. They're fine where they're at currently
craggy river
on pally stream
indigo sun
I'm sorry I'm not going to believe that until I get definitive proof.
night mountain
"herf the herbie limit" is the wildest thing ive ever heard in here
craggy river
?
void zodiac
If anything we need more herbies. Lmao
craggy river
because its not
thorny lynx
It can eat anything it fricken wants if it was smart.
It literally bites mid-tiers once and laughs as they die. Its alt+turn and trot+turn is busted to where mid-tiers cannot even juke them. It has enough damage and weight to brawl with a rex
craggy river
um
no it doesnt
it can only beat the mid tiers
but is ass against the rex
also the giga is a apex, why shouldnt it be good against mid tier
lunar sandal
To suggestion in suggestion chat if you have large herds of herbivore your going have different types of carnivores working together or even large group of same type carnivores of to hunting that large herds. and most what will happen is that same carnious will remain together to hunt that large herd.
thorny lynx
True... but subs should not count towards the limit
craggy river
subs should count
thorny lynx
They can't defend themselves
thorny lynx
I meant Sub Trikes
void zodiac
Adult giga if anything needs a nerf lmao. Juvie and sub, need to be better. End of story
Speaking as a giga player, myself.
thorny lynx
Like I said, giga can keep his bleed, but his damage needs to chill the fuck out. 400 damage maximum.
void zodiac
I donno, honestly its the only way to have a fighting chance if 3 rexes come out of the ass
thorny lynx
But to be honest, he really doesn't need much damage at all if he's going to be bleeding out sauropods
void zodiac
Don't quote me on it.
thorny lynx
I'm tired of Giga's stats being based on the Rex vs Giga metagame
thorny lynx
They shouldn't, in the future.
void zodiac
I agree, and hope the same
thorny lynx
Rex is meant to hunt down and kill slow, fat, armored herbivores
void zodiac
But right now everyone seems to play carnivore, and carnivores end up having to vs each other.
The herbie population is a 20% on almost every server, forced to hide in a corner because trike gets demolished either way, and is supposedly the prime apex
thorny lynx
It's because Trikes can't hang out in groups of more than what, 4?
void zodiac
Nah
void zodiac
Lmao, I assume you know because you have HOURS on end as a trike? Doubt it.
void zodiac
One trike and a few herbies plus one rex, who do you think is going to win?
craggy river
trike
craggy river
still trike
craggy river
why would 4 trikes not be with other herbies
thorny lynx
Trike can barely defend itself against a single rex
craggy river
First off
thorny lynx
I'm saying
thorny lynx
Pit a max allowance of rexes against a max allowance of Trikes
craggy river
Why the hell would the trike go solo against rex
and trike can still kill a rex if they stomp
craggy river
Lmao
thorny lynx
A single rex can kill two trikes if it's super good
void zodiac
^
craggy river
no they cant
thorny lynx
How do you expect 4 trikes to survive 3 rexes
void zodiac
NEITHER DOES TRIKE
craggy river
you realize that right?
void zodiac
OML
craggy river
still wouldnt matter
void zodiac
Okay, please come talk to us after you play trike, and get 1v1 by a rex. Then we can talk sir, unfortunately I don't have time to explain these things over and over.
craggy river
why cant you stomp?
thorny lynx
Can't stomp with a broken leg
craggy river
you can stomp before they bite
void zodiac
edgy furnace
@pearl yoke make an easier way to annoy the hell out of everyone and make people lose dinos on accident? yeah not a great idea
pearl yoke
You can block people lol
and eventually i'm sure nesting will have some sort of confirm screen or an indicator of what dino it is
steady cosmos
@edgy furnace only if you dont pay attention to what you're doing will you "accidentally" lose your dino
versed blaze
@thorny lynx Trike limit is 5, not 4.
thorny lynx
Still
3 rexes vs 5 trikes, good luck
Subs shouldn't count towards the limit for Trikes. the heck is a sub trike going to do? It's literally a walking potato.
barren zephyr
@night mountain is there fog at twins? :00000
i never saw fog tbh, could be bc of my settings?
night mountain
no idea if its your settings, it usually looks pretty foggy to me though
barren zephyr
ooh mmh
it doesnt look foggy to me, and for the suggestion i meant the whole map
but i understand if ppl dont want that or if its not easy to code ;v;
shell willow
Right now, afaik port and twins get fogged.
The rest of the map isn't like that probably because of the amount of trees. On a foggy day, trees kinda divide the fog and give it no effect.
barren zephyr
i see. i never noticed
lilac swallow
@fleet surge as an herbi main im all for herbi buffs, but removing bone break from rex is just asking for removing Rex, It needs It, literally cant hunt without it
Talking about ankylo and camara, they are sandbox Dinos so are irrelevant
And puerta? First It doesnt need bone break It literally one shots everything that walks, second is a sandbox Dino and third and most important is getting removed
shell willow
What's so hard to understand that rex is a slow mf and if it can't break something's leg it may as well starve
most of these suggestions are just people who are butthurt about losing something because of rex's bb.. sucks to suck I guess
lilac swallow
Rex isnt that slow(It isnt a fast Guy but isnt a slug neither) is more that Rex has only 30 seconds of run time
I seriously hate when people say "git gud" but these people really need a good placed "git gud" on their face
shell willow
I usually only say it jokingly because seeing people get mad about it is funny
but ya rex only has 30s of run time and people are more worried about his bb rather than their distance from the rex... like, seriously, anything can get away from a rex if you're far enough away.. these people are letting rexes get like 2 feet away before actually doing anything
lilac swallow
Im not even a good player im average but i have only been killed by rex when i was either not looking at the screen, in my only rex against a trike+Rex mixpack, or as allo because i kamikazed. Only 3 times and was for either me being dumb or them cheating
shell willow
all the times I've died to rexes was me being bored and suiciding or me being afk, I'm usually smart about rexes unless people are talking over each other in vc, then I have to sit far away and watch them all get killed
lilac swallow
If a rex sneak enought close to you, you either deserved to die or the rex really deserved the kill
shell willow
my adult rex sneaked up on a sub trike out of the woods, I was so proud of that lol
n i n j a t i m e
lilac swallow
I would say dryo actually needs camo, is fast but there are faster preds, but yeah more vibrant color is allways good @shell willow
shell willow
it does have some nice camo already from experience, if you pick your colors right
junior pollen
more green tones would be nice for every dinosaur
shell willow
given that they're small and able to burrow, camo won't be too much of an issue either
their turn is also great atm so outmaneuvering preds long enough to escape to your burrow is awesome
lilac swallow
I would love having more than one selectable pattern, so not everyone are just the same but with other color
nimble agate
You can make a dark purple and blue dryo but yeah more colors is always nice
lilac swallow
Dark purple? Never knew dryo had one
blazing charm
@pale prairie Y'know, I was actually considering an idea like that. Though I ended up abandoning it because I was unsure about the idea, I'd like to think you've revitalised the interest in the idea for me.
pulsar lake
Yes but @thorny lynx for balance thing
So if trike is illimited, you can autorized a pack of 7 rex or 10 to hunt one of them in a pack of 20 trike
And for allo they can be 14 to hunt a para herd of 30
blazing charm
@stoic crow (1) Sino is SUPER tiny, like smaller than Austro so I have no idea why you're saying they are "more or less the same"
(2) While I wanna use the excuse of "Sino didn't have a venomous bite" our Dilo does have an anti-coagulant venom, so I guess for the sake of gameplay you could just ignore realism.
(3) But even if you did give it venom, and having the ability to glide it still doesn't help how incredibly tiny it is, it'd pretty much be a gliding Velociraptor which brings up the issue of people using them to spy or scout.
swift ferry
still temple
@stoic crow "Its more or less the same" 
I dont think people realise how big Austro actually is
umbral prairie
isn't austro almost utah size, just less bulky?
still temple
ye
lilac swallow
People keep forgeting that even if not realistic this game doesnt upscale/downscale dinos that drastically
umbral prairie
maybe they meant that they should replace velo with sino?
normal fern
Replace a household name with an obscure bird-dino
sure
still temple
most ppl will prefer one of the most iconic dinos over a glidey boi with paleo-meme venemous bite
normal fern
Tbh as glidey Bois go microraptor is probably less obscure than sino anyway
still temple
and he's even smaller
lilac swallow
@languid crag all that has actually been said to happen
lilac swallow
"Water dinos", yeah but that is for far future
lilac swallow
The most earlier things coming are combat mechanichs stego, ptera, flying mechanichs water mechanichs and fish
languid crag
sounds awesome
torn thistle
Body dragging / carrying will be a thing later on too. Been shown quite a bit https://clips.twitch.tv/MoistLuckyPancakeVoHiYo
radiant fulcrum
in regards to body dragging could a burying mechanic be implemented? So when you look at your map or sniff you can always find it but it's hard for other carnivores to find
i also really like dirt
barren zephyr
Yikes. That vid is 4 months old and we still don’t have it in game. 
Burying food may only make sense for certain Dino’s. Like I can’t imagine a Rex ever thought to bury its catch. Maybe raptors and some of the smaller carnivores.
indigo sun
We dont have it yet cause they cant implement it with gum and popcicle stick code
barren zephyr
But I like it. Maybe have the buried corpse show to the person who buried it similar to how water is seen, but a light brown instead of blue.
radiant fulcrum
yeah and perhaps only scavengers and smaller carnivores have that ability
brittle ivy
@lofty oracle You can reply to peoples' suggestions in this channel. 😄
mental sleet
That's such an old movie
blazing charm
@lofty oracle I mean, while I doubt dragons would be a thing in the Isle, I can point you towards a neat dragon game in the works called Emberfall, although that's more of an #401510382981742593 thing.
lilac swallow
Why would anyone want dragons in a dino game, yeah we are getting strains but they still are dinos.
You can tell by my name that i love dragons but dont mix them
indigo sun
If you want a dragon game, go to Emberfall. They seem to be making good progress
radiant fulcrum
when is emberfall coming out?
umbral prairie
@marble bramble rex is getting new animations
although they don't really make rex look like a heavy animal either
imo
marble bramble
@umbral prairie well this is good to hear... can we expect the rework soon or is it a future project ?
indigo sun
Rex already has new, finished animations I believe. At least some of the animations are finished, at least. I expect they'll come with or shortly after the recode but we cant be sure.
lofty oracle
anyone have any idea when we can expect recode update? Devs are kida quite these days 😃
versed blaze
Already had one. Expected to be done sometime post July.
It was talked about in a stream.
blazing charm
@idle pulsar I believe that was mentioned once, a long time ago. No idea if that's still planned though.
blazing charm
@teal grotto Just on the example of colors like pink, do you mean muted pinks, or bright, vibrant neon?
versed blaze
More Colors are coming. Gray's and reds I think? Maybe blues? Heard it in a stream but don't remember the exact colors.
unborn quail
Grey's and Blue's
blazing charm
@cinder plank While I am all for having a quadrupedal carnivore of somekind, it needs to have something unique going for it, else it'll probably just end up being AI
@cinder plank While I am all for having a quadrupedal carnivore of somekind, it needs to have something unique going for it, else it'll probably just end up being AI
radiant fulcrum
is there ever gonna be a mostly aquatic map with big boy swimmers
but sometime far in the future
just wondering if thats being tossed around
unborn quail
I mean, there's the new map..
lofty oracle
HOPE 😃
steady cradle
wait i thought the Allosaurus was a distant relative of the Tyrannosaurus not the giga
umbral prairie
I think they meant playstyle-wise, since both are bleeders
and alberto would most likely have some sort of bb, but only after the reworked bb since the current one is just weird
spiral ravine
well yeah XD
opaque elk
But also yeah, I hope males are necessary to nesting in future.
Would be fun to have the babies be a colour mix of both the parents.
spiral ravine
yeah that'd be cool
indigo sun
@brittle bough locational damage is already planned. it's been talked about quite a bit
brittle bough
ight, neat
royal pewter
Head bites already give bonus damage @brittle bough
And I’m sure they will integrate more after the re-code
indigo sun
since when? Cause I havent heard about this
brittle bough
oh do they?
indigo sun
I don't think that's true. Hitboxes are broken as it is, so I highly doubt head bites do more damage
unborn quail
Headshots do not give extra damage.
indigo sun
Please provide proof of this
Cause I do not remember this ever being the case in the time I've been playing this game
royal pewter
Ask dondi
indigo sun
Did you ask dondi?
indigo sun
Ah yes, let me just wait for the random occurrence of Dondi streaming to ask him
indigo sun
Cause it's a waste of my time and he almost never streams when I'm able to watch
royal pewter
you problem
versed blaze
So uh, are we still discussing suggestions?
royal pewter
I think it’s a great idea and in the best interest to require males in the nesting process. Because @spiral ravine is right, as of right now there really are no perks to being male
It would also add to immersion and realistics
indigo sun
They will be required in the nesting process eventually. As for how, we're not sure. But considering there's a "patriarch" part of the nest, I'm sure it'll happen
jovial blade
@royal pewter Devs have allready said males will be in the process
of nesting
It's why people put the timer emote
royal pewter
Awesome
jovial blade
on his suggestion
royal pewter
that’s good to know
jovial blade
The timer emote mean's its basically going to be in the game but in the future
loud vine
Whoever said the 5 call could be a mating call, rather than to lure them, it could alert any female in a reasonable range of your species of your location, possibly temporarly lighting up your dino to the female, similar to how water and food is highlighted, just a different color.
wintry cipher
sees male utah do a mating call
tells all other males in her pack where he is
lunch time!
paper oriole
how about a mating dance instead 
lunar sandal
or both
jovial blade
@wintry cipher Difference from 1 call?
It's a call regardless
and it will attract anyone
But i don't think mating calls are necessary
Maybe a scent of a female in heat?
or something like that
wintry cipher
....im not going to list the amount of times that scalie fetishists have tried suggesting some things here. long story short: you are not going to be nesting with randoms. This game inherently forces you to depend stricly on yourself or those you trust. your not going to be running around calling to fuck someone, buff or no buff. 90% of the time it will get you killed.
jovial blade
Lol
It would be a nice touch though to get some scent action
that can determine if a female is wanting to nest
night mountain
Mating animations
night mountain
Backflip emote for all dinosaurs pls
odd idol
loud vine
well, males fault for their death if they call out, it happens in the wild currently
so do it where you don't think there's a fuckin rex around the corner, the mating call lol
umbral tartan
@languid crag you do realise, that beasts of bermuda is literally a copy of the isle, basing all of their content over what has been said to come in the isle.
pale prairie
ehh i'm going to assume whatever they said was deleted by a mod
languid crag
@umbral tartan yeah that’s why I always love the isle more. Beasts of Bermuda is like a baby version. But the isle came first right? But still beast of Bermuda has more stuff.
The isle say that stuff will come but they take months on them to release it. :/
umbral tartan
Beasts of bermuda is basically someone who played the isle in it's early days, and heard of all of this stuff coming (at the time, the playerbase didn't like the devs that much because they weren't that fond of progression and new dinos were a bit broken) so they decided to make their own game and after a while BoB came to steam. By then, the isle was a fun and great game though. So.... tough luck predatoria
@languid crag
languid crag
@umbral tartan alright... I HATE beasts of Bermuda now thanks for telling xD
umbral tartan
Nah its an okay game
It was below average before, but now pteranodon got reworked and it sounds like A FUCKING SEAGULL and I love it
So it's gone to average now
(Btw the isle is like 300 miles above average, just to clarify in case dondi or hypno or foszor or one of the other devs read our chat)
Which they dont but anyway
teal grotto
gets told ''mods'' when there are no such thing as mods as the system is completely broken..
odd idol
One day
barren zephyr
@brazen wolf I believe rex base speed should be around 31.4 but they increase the ambush multiplier by around add it to .1 or .2 then it would be fine tbh then so rex doesn’t run down a giga with normal speed but they ambush role would be better for rexy boii
brazen wolf
ya. i think that would be good if Rex did not run down Giga So easily, i dont mind the ambush because it should be able to catch it if Giga is not in Ambush. But right now it's crazy to see Rex just running down giga in Normal Speed
it's too Easy For Rex To Kill Giga Right Now
analog prism
no
brazen wolf
So When Giga Notice Rex First Then it Should be Able To escape
or give giga some power to fight it
Rex is just Op right now
Giga takes same time as Rex to grow
Rex has 1200 bite force
and crazy speed
is that balanced?
leaden night
Giga takes longer to grow
analog prism
rexes need that
analog prism
it is pretty fair
brazen wolf
how do you feel if Rex is Faster then allo
In Base speed
you will not be playing Allo anymore
analog prism
base speed is not used in this game so i have no idea what you refer to
brazen wolf
we are still trying to hang on to Giga
lilac swallow
Rex is considered the only balanced apex
brazen wolf
Rex is broken
It's the most Op dino in the game
with it's bone break
bite giga tail and breaks it's leg
analog prism
Allo is faster than rex at every speed
the only carnivore that doesn't kill Rex is giga
and thats how it's probably supposed to be
lilac swallow
And giga can perfectly run away from a Rex if the giga is aware of it's surroindings
brazen wolf
Ya legendary but the problem is Rex is much faster
so it will run down giga easily
I dont mind Rex being Op
lilac swallow
30 vs 33? Muchs faster? Really?
lilac swallow
And Rex runs half the time a giga does
brazen wolf
or nurf Rex speed a bit
or decrease it's bb chance
Rex runs 30 second
33 kmp
it would reach moon and back
lilac swallow
And giga 50 secs at 30
analog prism
you spew BS it's insane
brazen wolf
if Rex catch giga befre it's stamina what is the use of stamina
lilac swallow
33x30 is way less than 30x50
brazen wolf
If Rex can kill Giga with bb before Bleed what is the use of bleed
lilac swallow
Thats why you dont get a Rex let close
analog prism
Giga is not supposed to fight a rex!
analog prism
RUN away from rexes as giga
cyan flame
It's fast enough, but yes, you can run away if you run in time, just a matter of not letting the rex get too close :p But really, they could probably do with lowering rex normal run to 31.9-32.0 or something, and just up the ambush multiplier so the current ambush remains. No real reason for rex to be that fast in normal run with that kind of ambush anyway, since it shouldn't be running much normally what with no stamina regain unless resting?
cyan flame
Would still be able to run a giga down if the giga comes too close if it's faster, but would take a bit more time and give the giga some extra leeway if it wasn't paying attention. Not sure on the giga ambush vs rex ambush though, might be some issues there if rex normal run speed is lowered?
brazen wolf
Similary ithappened in Rex case
they op It's speed so much
the problem it there are so many Rex in the server
lilac swallow
Giga is about endurance thats why It has double the Rex stam, stam regen while troting and the best trot in game
analog prism
well, every argument you've made has been debunked
brazen wolf
Buffing Rex rex was a big mistacke
lilac swallow
Giga is the overtuned one
brazen wolf
there is too many Rex fan boys
they just want to bully everyone
with it's 5 men crew
analog prism
theyre more often not, but sure...
cyan flame
Yeah.. except I've spent most of my time on rex solo, or at best with a partner, and that's it. No 5 man band for me xD Not sure why you consider pairs bad though, wouldn't that be pretty much normal for most critters probably.. :p
leaden night
More rexes you have = less chance a 5 rex pack kills you
brazen wolf
thet's why they cry so much when we say to balance them
Rex is brokn right now
It's op Dino
analog prism
it's like you don't even read
brazen wolf
If you dont know by now you are not playing the isle enough
lilac swallow
"chicken" says the Guy who wants Rex to get speed nerf because is afraid of losing its overtuned dino
cyan flame
Look, I don't really know why the rex needs to be quite that fast in normal run, unless someone can clear that up, I don't really see an issue with lowering base speed to around 32 or something, but beyond that, I don't think there's much of an issue with the matchup, except for the RNG but.. well, it's what it is.. xD
brazen wolf
am not scared it's just making A good dino garbage. I dont want giga to be garbage
clever leaf
People still complaining about Giga being slower than Rex? Despite Giga clearly outstamming and outtrotting Rex?
brazen wolf
free burger for rex
lilac swallow
"If you dont know by now you are not playing the isle enough" arent you sure you are the one who hasnt spent enought time, all the isle community either mains giga or know giga is op
Free burger? Play trike and repeat that
brazen wolf
Giga is op . All Apes Are op
analog prism
all the apes
brazen wolf
it's just comparasion between the apex
cyan flame
Hey, trikes can be scary xD
outer nebula
rex has the worse stam drain in the game
brazen wolf
you dont compair mid tire to Apex
lilac swallow
Rex isnt, is just strong but not op, hell even dilos can kill it
outer nebula
not to mention a lone giga can kill two rexes if you play it right
clever leaf
only bad gigas can die to dilos
lilac swallow
Is not a fighting Game, and running away is just as viable as fighting, Rex may be the best fighter but It sucks at catching prey
brazen wolf
a lone Rex could kill 2 gigas
outer nebula
im not kidding ive seen a lone giga kill two rexes
lilac swallow
Giga is literally inmortal due to its alt turn
clever leaf
I'll just say this right now. If rex was to be made slower than giga rn, gigas would be way out of control
something has to keep them in check
lilac swallow
Giga is a fucking beyblade
analog prism
insane bleed adn trot
clever leaf
doesnt matter if you can just outstam and outtrot rex
brazen wolf
insane bleed dont work
Because Rex is faster and break it's leg
what is trot good for?
in fight
outer nebula
well then you never hunted rexes bleed is a rex worse nightmare
clever leaf
Faster is almost irrelevant if rex runs out of stamina, he has to sit down for stamina
giga doesnt
lilac swallow
Rex run only 30 fucking seconds if It gets you is your fucking fault
brazen wolf
how can Rex run out of stamina
it dont need to
run
30 second a lot man
have you driven a car
brazen wolf
where can you reach in 30 second 100 miles per hour
lilac swallow
If 30 is a lot what is 50?
brazen wolf
well in 30 second if you run 33.6 km per hour.
well if you run 50 second 30 km per hour
who is going win within 30 second
before reaching 50
analog prism
I'm glad you don't have a voice about changing things
brazen wolf
the point is Rex can easily catch Giga
lilac swallow
Seriously when do you start running, when the Rex is touching your butt?
analog prism
just don't break your leg
brazen wolf
well dont know why you guys like op Rex
clever leaf
giga beats rex in those aspects
brazen wolf
well it's kind of stuid how much ppl like Rex
clever leaf
do you just stand there and wait for rex to get close to you?
brazen wolf
and give it 50 second speed to Rex
yes why not
you make it faster then Giga
then you say it's ok
Giga cant match Rex
analog prism
It's not supposed to
brazen wolf
it's just too much For giga
lilac swallow
brazen wolf
would you agree if i say Rex is stronger faster then Giga?
lilac swallow
This is what people think about giga being faster than rex
brazen wolf
so why buff Rex speed so much
analog prism
but thats not guaranteed
brazen wolf
it was slow before
lilac swallow
Diablo is also slower than Rex and no diablo says rex is op
lilac swallow
Ok
lilac swallow
Trike is slower than Rex and giga and loses to both, is that fair?
analog prism
so you want rexes to be faster now huh?
cyan flame
I think the main issue is the whole "bite on tip of tail and break leg" but thats.. not much we can do about right now, it'll come with the recode and all
lilac swallow
Seriously if Rex was that op why would they play giga?
analog prism
he is delusional
brazen wolf
giga is only good in groups
lilac swallow
Ha
brazen wolf
that's why people in groups play giga
solo giga is useless
well or the noobs
they learn it the hard way . so most people dont like t play giga
lilac swallow
Just ask in #401464048610312195, ask there, ask there if giga isnt op, i dare you
brazen wolf
well if they slow down Giga alt speed , that's the only thing wich is good then other apex
i will stop playing giga because it will be garbage
people hatet to play giga
Well am just trying to make giga playable
lilac swallow
Ha
cyan flame
Giga is perfectly playable..
brazen wolf
it sucks right now
not with op Rex around
have you ever seen Rex vs Giga match
1v1
cyan flame
I've fought a rex or two actually yes.. :p
brazen wolf
it's not good for Giga
cyan flame
Granted, they weren't good, but still, I came out of it alive, they didn't..
lilac swallow
Lets see, if you arent a chicken like you think rexes are, lets see if you are Brave enought to ask in #401464048610312195
brazen wolf
there is too many Rex fan boys
so i am the minority here
Giga are minority
no one playes giga
just like para
cyan flame
Look, even if we lowered the rex run speed a bit, it would probably still be faster, all you'd get is a bit more runtime before it catches up, and you know, no rex is going to run after you if you're sufficiently far away unless they're stupid, and otherwise, they'll have an ambush and by the time you even react, you're already dead..
brazen wolf
they becoming Garbage
lilac swallow
Giga fan boyy are all over the game, people dont even like playing rex
viral creek
Wdym. I see gigas all the time
brazen wolf
save giga being garbage
brazen wolf
make Giga fater, i dont care if they decrease bite force to 500
cyan flame
Still, anyone have a good reason as to why we couldn't lower the rex normal run to let's say 32.0 or something, just a bit more run around "room" for the giga, but it would still be done in if it got too close?
lilac swallow
Giga is top 3 dino
cyan flame
And no, making the giga faster is a very bad idea..
viral creek
I don't think you understand how to play giga
lilac swallow
Shut Up?
brazen wolf
we having civil argument
lilac swallow
You have been talking shit and know pachy has to shut Up?
cyan flame
Says the guy asking others to shut up.. :p
brazen wolf
well you all talking bull shit
cyan flame
Anyway, back to the main issue, Dragon, Pachy, any of you got a reason against lowering normal rex runspeed to 32 or so instead of the current 33?
viral creek
Rex is literally the only thing that can kill giga, and giga can 100% escape it if it sees it from a distance.
Not only that. But if you get a jump on a rex as a giga, and get 2 bites (which isn't hard due to your bite speed) you can quite literally outdamage rex
versed blaze
If I see someone saying shut up one more time....................
viral creek
Giga is actually one of the most absurdly good creatures in the game, and is invincible to every middle teir. Giving him more speed is a giant middle finger to every mid teir carnivore.
lilac swallow
@cyan flame i wouldnt mind but Rex isnt the balance nightmare here
brazen wolf
if you get 2 bites and then Rex turns aroudn Giga is still going to die
viral creek
No. You literally outdamage him if you bite him a few times
brazen wolf
do not compare it to small creatures
cyan flame
I know Dragon, I'm just curious, I agree that the rex is pretty fine, I think the real issue is the whole RNG legbreak on tailtips and that
I can see why that would irk some gigas
brazen wolf
only compare it to Apex
analog prism
rax can't turn, thats the entire meme of the rex
versed blaze
Locational damage will resolve the tail damage issue. Coming after the recode
cyan flame
So the idea was to maybe slow it down a touch more, give the gigas a bit more "room" to avoid that thing :p
brazen wolf
If you Bite Rex it wont say bite me some more time
viral creek
No. We have to bring up mid teir because you proposed to buff giga speed
brazen wolf
it will alt turn and bite
cyan flame
I know Bacon, I've mentioned that, just throwing out ideas for current situation xD
But yeah, giving giga more speed is so not a good idea
brazen wolf
i did not purpose to buff giga speed
viral creek
Rex has a slow alt turn. You can get in a few bites. Or you can run in, bite and get out of there
brazen wolf
i purpose to lower Rex a bit and decrease it's bb
lilac swallow
Uncle, exit from your giga Bubble, giga is the best apex and trike is here the one needing help not giga
brazen wolf
you cant get out Pachy Rex will run you down
clever leaf
something needs to handle them
viral creek
Yes you can
brazen wolf
but here is the question of Rex being too op
cyan flame
How so Savage, you'd have the same ambush speed, and still faster, but not by much, by my idea at least
brazen wolf
and having 5 men op crew
night mountain
buff cama
lilac swallow
Giga*
analog prism
rex is not too OP
viral creek
That is 5 rexes. Not one
cyan flame
Rex could be slower and still be faster than the giga in normal run after all
clever leaf
I meant if rex was to be slower than giga
cyan flame
Ah, right, sorry then Savage :D
clever leaf
its almost like what that guy wants
analog prism
it will one bite kill most dinos, but it's slow and can't turn for shit
brazen wolf
even one is too much for 1 giga
think abut the solo giga
finding a rex
then get run down
bb
analog prism
run away
viral creek
Rex is pretty balanced. He's strong, sure. But his stamina is the literal worst, his ambush time is so bad. His alt turn is poor, so he can be killed by smaller animal packs
brazen wolf
how do you feel to get your bone break in the middle of a fight
lilac swallow
This is not a fucking fighting Game, and runing away is better
viral creek
Answer
cyan flame
Anyone know how fast giga ambush is btw?
viral creek
Don't fight a rex
night mountain
rex has garbage turning, a lone dilo can shit all over it if you're good
analog prism
btw guys, we have made the same arguments for 20 minutes but Uncle Raptor will never get out of the giga bubble
brazen wolf
that's the main issue
viral creek
Rex has speed because he's an ambush predator. His stamina is almost nothing
If you are afraid of the bone break, don't fight a rex
lilac swallow
@analog prism "but Rex run you down"
clever leaf
tbh rex can only catch giga if its on top of it
brazen wolf
well i dont know why you guys love Rex so much
viral creek
I'm not sure why the viability of an apex is determined by "Can it fight rex"
lilac swallow
I HATE rex
brazen wolf
you get scared when pppl aay it need balance
pachy at least it should be able to run
brazen wolf
am not saying giga should be as strong as Rex
lilac swallow
Giga CAN run away
brazen wolf
well it cleary is not
lilac swallow
Rex can only catch blind/stupid players
viral creek
Remember. Giga also has a higher weight that rex
lilac swallow
And faster bite
viral creek
Meaning rex does less damage to giga, and giga also does more damage to rex
cyan flame
It sure as hell doesn't feel that way when you got an angry rex running after you as a giga though xD
lilac swallow
Because giga needs no support
vestal rune
uh no it isn't
viral creek
But the point is. Giga is actually God teir in terms of stats, and his viability shouldn't be determined by his ability to fight rex
cyan flame
Because you've not made any actual argument, much less a suggestion of values that would work better and why they would
lilac swallow
Is literally breaking this game ecosystem
cyan flame
At least I've tried to offer some values/changes.. :p
viral creek
Everything is a free burger to rex within a close range
vestal rune
^
viral creek
Rex is an ambush predator
vestal rune
rex is an extreme ambush predator
the only way he can kill anything is that if he gets into an extremely close range
brazen wolf
ok i rest my case
vestal rune
and if he can do that, it's an easy kill
clever leaf
ok
viral creek
Opinions don't matter if it involves breaking the game's balance by supporting an already God teir creature
Play allo
He's more fun anyway
lilac swallow
These meta Dino players are funny, only play op dinos and at the same time ask for buffing them
clever leaf
giga isnt anymore a free burger for rex than trike is a free burger for giga
viral creek
Poor trike
lilac swallow
Trike is a free burger for both and even if It is true that trike players ask for help we arent that dumb
night mountain
how about we just take all these buffs people are suggesting
and slap them on taco instead
lilac swallow
Make taco a hideable hypo that doesnt starve? Yeah
analog prism
how about a super fast 10 dmg 100% bonebreaking taco
night mountain
PLS
tacos quills working like a porcupine would be fun tbh
make non ai taco not really worth hunting
analog prism
so if you kill a taco you get full bleed?
night mountain
LOL
quills that get stuck in you that make you limp like bb without doing real damage
viral creek
I have a worse idea
lilac swallow
Buffing giga? (Ok i stop now)
viral creek
Eat a taco, and little taco larvae come out of it's dead body, lay eggs in you. And they eat your insides causing your stats to decrease over time. And when the time comes, the eggs will become adult tacos and burst out through your dino's chest.
RIP your dino
night mountain
make pachy able to crack ribs, and a cracked rib permanently halves your stamina
LOL xenomorph tacos
pls
lilac swallow
While doing so the tacos spam 4 call
viral creek
Eating oros give your dino salmonella
analog prism
i wana be a taco larvae
viral creek
And rabies
night mountain
eating an ava gives your dinosaur extreme diarrhea for like an hour along with complex animations for it
wait there were flying troodontids
?
barren zephyr
its plausible to suggest small troodontids could fly as they were closer to birds than raptors
viral creek
@night torrent Locational damage, and fishing mechanics are planned post recode.
Claw attacks may be a thing too
night mountain
imo spino should be a grappler
bite, hold on, spam claws
probably about what it did
umbral prairie
It would be cool to see that with mid tiers, but I feel like apexes should be able to excape the grip pretty easily
not sure if it would be worth it to add that though, since spino will probably be less mobile on land than the other apexes and therefore won't catch mid or low tiers very often
night mountain
also make platy broken as shit so everyone hates it
night mountain
make it like cama
looks small and fine but its flapping jaw attack makes an obnoxious noise and kills a giga
umbral prairie
platy kinda looks like there was a normal animal at first, then it died, and then a giant boulder rolled over it's face
odd gate
that platy is a funky individual
night mountain
honestly though platy would be fun as hell because its so weird
the funniest choice for the only mammal
umbral prairie
make a platy mod when the mod kit makes a return
night mountain
god PLEASE
hypo platy where the jaw splits with a super loud HURRRRRRRRRRRGL noise
odd gate
if I was strolling through the jungle and that gentleman appeared I would book it just because it looks so wrong
wheat turtle
This skybox gives me an uneasy feeling
umbral prairie
the clouds are very weird
sometimes it looks like it is sunny when you look at the ground but when you look up there are very dark clouds
and the clouds being 2D objects makes it even weirder
umbral prairie
also the moon sometimes goes down into the water
umbral prairie
I think you could buy it some time in 2016
idk how long it has been developed before that
wheat turtle
oh god
torn thistle
But why though
pliant ember
wheat turtle
four years...
torn thistle
What does it even offer to the game
umbral prairie
I kinda lost my faith in this games development in 2017 or 18, since it only progressed slowly and it didn't feel like the devs knew what they wanted to do with the game, but now it seems like what they want to do and how.
odd gate
I applaud that lad
umbral prairie
so I have hope again
wheat turtle
Is this a joke or actually serious?
night mountain
realistic scooping action
pliant ember
I don't see what impact it would make in the game
night mountain
could dig for food in swamps or something
blazing charm
It needs to have some kind of impact on the game, other than "teehee funni trumpet"
Why can't any other creature dig for food?
pliant ember
Yes let's add this one elephant in a game filled with dinosaurs, that wouldn't look inconsistent at all
blazing charm
Why does it have to be a ridiculous looking elephant?
night mountain
because its cool
torpid wedge
night mountain
unique looking animals are cool
blazing charm
If you add that thing, you kind of need to add other prehistoric mammals.
pliant ember
But it's useless
versed blaze
Yeah, that won't make it into the game
blazing charm
Also adding an animal because it "looks cool" means literally nothing.
odd gate
I think its cute but it wont fit in game
night mountain
platy is too powerful for the isle, you guys are right
clever leaf
big mammals should only exist in mods tbh
odd gate
unless it was like, a domesticated steed for the cannibals, that would be wild
night mountain
i WOULD make a genuine argument for basilosaurus being in though as the token mammal
pliant ember
Still don't see the point of it being added
night mountain
a gigantic empty ocean is good enough argument for basically ANYTHING aquatic being added tbh