#general-feedback-discussion | The Isle Official Discord | Page 477

marble ether May 28, 2019, 9:46 AM

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I think by now everyone agrees that it needs to be harder to grow an apex

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then we add new pack limits

nocturne ocean May 28, 2019, 9:46 AM

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and harder to keep them alive

marble ether May 28, 2019, 9:47 AM

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apex population is controled

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tadaa

nocturne ocean May 28, 2019, 9:47 AM

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an carni apex used to be hard to keep alive

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but than the devs overbuffed

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the hunger need

grand brook May 28, 2019, 9:47 AM

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not everyone, last updates when they incorporated the hunger buff on juvies and sub apexes there were alot who complained

lilac swallow May 28, 2019, 9:47 AM

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We just need randomly spawned ai instead of "oh you are hungry lets spaw Some ai Next to you"

nocturne ocean May 28, 2019, 9:47 AM

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by not only reducing the food the apexes need

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but also adding avas

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and boom you broke the dam

marble ether May 28, 2019, 9:48 AM

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imo pack limits
Utah: 6
Dillo: 6
Cera: 4
Allo: 3
Sucho: 2-3
Giga: 2
Rex: 1-2

grand brook May 28, 2019, 9:48 AM

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"oh you are making it tedious and difficult again" they said

marble ether May 28, 2019, 9:48 AM

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there is no need for any bigger packs than I just suggested

quartz ruin May 28, 2019, 9:48 AM

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sucho doesn't need a pack limit it needs god

nocturne ocean May 28, 2019, 9:48 AM

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cera in its current state should defo not be 4 😛

marble ether May 28, 2019, 9:48 AM

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why not?

nocturne ocean May 28, 2019, 9:48 AM

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its weaker than a dilo

lilac swallow May 28, 2019, 9:48 AM

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It is currently tedious, is just braindead easy to afk and wait for ai

grand brook May 28, 2019, 9:48 AM

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a bit of bleed res buff and that could be it's pack limit

marble ether May 28, 2019, 9:49 AM

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and what will it add to have more than 4?

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will it take on anything else?

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no

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it will still prey on the same stuff

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just because he is weaker, doesn't mean the pack limit needs to be higher

nocturne ocean May 28, 2019, 9:49 AM

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sure what kind of pack limit would you put on herbies though

marble ether May 28, 2019, 9:49 AM

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4 ceras can take an allo or a pair of allos

grand brook May 28, 2019, 9:50 AM

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herds tend to be bigger than packs for the most part

marble ether May 28, 2019, 9:50 AM

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I'm not sure about herbs because they mixpack

nocturne ocean May 28, 2019, 9:50 AM

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also

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i dont think pack limits are the answer

marble ether May 28, 2019, 9:50 AM

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so there's not really any limits

nocturne ocean May 28, 2019, 9:50 AM

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i think packs should be naturally limited in size

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cuz of food issues or the like

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its more fun that way

grand brook May 28, 2019, 9:51 AM

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why not? does it make it sense to have 20 allos at once in a pack?

marble ether May 28, 2019, 9:51 AM

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people aren't always the brighest if you let them decide for themselves

nocturne ocean May 28, 2019, 9:51 AM

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seeing how big your pack can be and still survive

marble ether May 28, 2019, 9:51 AM

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then we have the ai problem again

nocturne ocean May 28, 2019, 9:51 AM

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they just made it too easy right now

grand brook May 28, 2019, 9:51 AM

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that is close enough to a megapack

nocturne ocean May 28, 2019, 9:51 AM

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allowing packs to have no limit

marble ether May 28, 2019, 9:51 AM

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that's the first thing that needs to be fixed in the line

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pack limits only after ai changes

nocturne ocean May 28, 2019, 9:52 AM

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they need to make it hard to survive in big packs again

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thats the best solution

grand brook May 28, 2019, 9:52 AM

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and megapacks are about the worst thing one could have

marble ether May 28, 2019, 9:52 AM

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yes, by changing the way ai spawn

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the solution is pretty simple tbh, the execution tho

nocturne ocean May 28, 2019, 9:52 AM

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these bandaid pack limits are just unfun

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and removes potential

marble ether May 28, 2019, 9:52 AM

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it's not a bandaid

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it's necessary

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no one wants to be hunted b 37 dillos

nocturne ocean May 28, 2019, 9:53 AM

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only because they fucked up the ai

grand brook May 28, 2019, 9:53 AM

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maybe the affinity system will dictate how many dinos of your kind can you have in your group

nocturne ocean May 28, 2019, 9:53 AM

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37 dilos is rare and not that big of a problen

marble ether May 28, 2019, 9:53 AM

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37 allos then

nocturne ocean May 28, 2019, 9:53 AM

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seeing as a lot of dinos can straight up one shot dilos

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37 allos should be insanely hard to keep fed

grand brook May 28, 2019, 9:53 AM

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37 dilos attacking at once

nocturne ocean May 28, 2019, 9:53 AM

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maybe not right now

marble ether May 28, 2019, 9:54 AM

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it isn't atm

grand brook May 28, 2019, 9:54 AM

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just think about it

marble ether May 28, 2019, 9:54 AM

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u just spawn 37 ai

nocturne ocean May 28, 2019, 9:54 AM

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that would be a lot of friendly fire @grand brook

grand brook May 28, 2019, 9:54 AM

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ai should spawn around areas, not near players

marble ether May 28, 2019, 9:54 AM

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^

nocturne ocean May 28, 2019, 9:54 AM

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ye thats an option

grand brook May 28, 2019, 9:55 AM

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for several reasons

nocturne ocean May 28, 2019, 9:55 AM

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also just plain less ai

marble ether May 28, 2019, 9:55 AM

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but

nocturne ocean May 28, 2019, 9:55 AM

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or maybe not depending on how they do it

marble ether May 28, 2019, 9:55 AM

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that binds carnis to places tho

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and doesn't allow free roam

nocturne ocean May 28, 2019, 9:55 AM

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not really

grand brook May 28, 2019, 9:55 AM

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much like bushes bound herbies to areas

nocturne ocean May 28, 2019, 9:55 AM

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as long as you make it work like herby bushes

marble ether May 28, 2019, 9:55 AM

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herbies are free to go anywhere they want tho

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theres bushes everywhere

nocturne ocean May 28, 2019, 9:56 AM

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herby bushes are everywhere

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except some spots have more than others

grand brook May 28, 2019, 9:56 AM

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have areas through out the map, near water sources that ai can spawn

nocturne ocean May 28, 2019, 9:56 AM

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a lot of places dont allow for a big herby pack to stick around

grand brook May 28, 2019, 9:56 AM

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that way you can jump from one place to another

nocturne ocean May 28, 2019, 9:57 AM

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also bushes are technically everywhere but they are very limited in a lot of spots

grand brook May 28, 2019, 9:57 AM

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not be bound by it, and avoid constant camping

nocturne ocean May 28, 2019, 9:57 AM

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it would also give carnis a reason to contest each other over certain ai spots

grand brook May 28, 2019, 9:57 AM

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and with the changes in herbivore diet you will see herbies sticking to certain biomes

nocturne ocean May 28, 2019, 9:58 AM

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if they wanna grow babies and the like

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same for herbies basically

grand brook May 28, 2019, 9:58 AM

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correct

nocturne ocean May 28, 2019, 9:58 AM

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herbies only nest in the big bush zones

grand brook May 28, 2019, 9:58 AM

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that's it

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so yeah carnivores would still roam in search of larger prey

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and in fact they would roam more as they would not depend on ai

nocturne ocean May 28, 2019, 9:59 AM

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would also make it easier to find prey/ a fight

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because atm a lot of people just camp in a corner of the map

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making it really hard to find people unless you camp the water spot they are using

grand brook May 28, 2019, 10:00 AM

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cough twins cough

nocturne ocean May 28, 2019, 10:01 AM

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ye and some water spots like twins are so big its hard to catch em

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lazy river is an amazing spot for herbies to grow

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corner of the map and lots of food

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garantueed succes

marble ether May 28, 2019, 10:02 AM

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I found a new pond between titan and the great falls

nocturne ocean May 28, 2019, 10:03 AM

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ive grown trikes there even on a 200 pop server without hearing as much as a shout

marble ether May 28, 2019, 10:03 AM

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Where I.encountered a lot of herbs last weekend

grand brook May 28, 2019, 12:30 PM

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The worst aspect of the JW franchise so far incorporated to a game with already plenty of crazy shit? Nah man, hybrids are a bit unnecesary

lilac swallow May 28, 2019, 12:31 PM

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I like jp and jw but pls dont mix It with ti

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Is like saying i want blaster for mercs because i like star wars

next nexus May 28, 2019, 12:33 PM

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@velvet elk ignoring all other arguments against hybrids for a second, lets say the devs are on board for this idea. Cool, there's a fair roster of playable dinosaurs right? I can't remember the exact number and there are new additions coming e.g ptera and stego to the survival roster but lets say for examples sake there is 20. So 20 base animals that can be hybridized with the 19 others right?

This would mean the devs would have to model 380 models total to accommodate this hybrid system, and then you also have to balance all 380 animals.

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and then each hybrid would need its own sound set right?

lilac swallow May 28, 2019, 12:34 PM

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^ not to mention all the balance issues

next nexus May 28, 2019, 12:35 PM

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the isles got its strains, that's the closest you're gonna get to genetic freaks

odd gate May 28, 2019, 12:36 PM

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its a cool idea just not viable in this circumstance basically

blazing charm May 28, 2019, 12:36 PM

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It'd be hard to make not silly.

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@next nexus Don't forget the life cycles

odd gate May 28, 2019, 12:42 PM

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thats unfortunate but you posted a suggestion and opened yourself up to criticism, im sorry that you feel downtrodden and i understand why you would feel so, but unfortunately thats how stuff like this works. it sucks but thats how it is

blazing charm May 28, 2019, 12:43 PM

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Take the criticism and use it to improve.

marble ether May 28, 2019, 12:50 PM

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This is a democracy, we're not here to like every idea, there's plenty of other people that get downvoted for suggestions

still temple May 28, 2019, 1:10 PM

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ew no hybrids god no

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also if you cant deal with criticism, dont post publicly

marble ether May 28, 2019, 1:53 PM

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@velvet elk please, at this point ur just asking for downvotes. If u have a suggestion, you put effort in making your point known.Which pterasaur and which sauropod do you want to see, why do you want to see them, what purpose will they serve and how will they be different from the other creatures that are currently in game or are planned to be added

viral creek May 28, 2019, 1:53 PM

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Not sure why hybirds are needed whatsoever

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We already have normal dinosaurs and multiple strands of mutated animals.

jovial blade May 28, 2019, 2:00 PM

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Rexhy

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Hybrid

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They head butt

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And bite

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👌

lilac swallow May 28, 2019, 2:02 PM

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Drawasaurus you seem completely oblivious about whats going on, omnivores has been Sort of unconfirmend, spino will get swim buff but not until remodeled due to sandbox exclusive dinos been irrelevant. Pteranodont has been confirmed playable and brachio too as an ai

pliant ember May 28, 2019, 2:05 PM

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And this game is definitely not following scientific studies about most of their dinosaurs, since you know, giant jaw splitting Giganotosaurus, jellyfish looking spino with EMP attacks

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So asking for accuracy and any scientific studies following will be completely ignored

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If it doesn't affect the game in any way

lilac swallow May 28, 2019, 2:09 PM

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Hypos are out of question about realism talks, we could perfectly have full realistic dinos and hypos in the same game. Im not a realism boy but if you are gonna talk use actuall arguments like the fact that utahs dont jump

pliant ember May 28, 2019, 2:11 PM

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We can have realism in this game
But we won't, because that's not what the game is about, if someone wants accuracy in a dinosaur game Saurian exists

still temple May 28, 2019, 2:12 PM

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regular dinos should still be somewhat grounded in reality imo, but gameplay takes priority. And omnivores would just be ez mode

jovial blade May 28, 2019, 2:12 PM

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They go on and off from realisim

pliant ember May 28, 2019, 2:12 PM

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Most of the realism is broken once humans, mutants and monsters are introduced into the same game

jovial blade May 28, 2019, 2:12 PM

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They got giga and allo pretty realistic

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They got the weight right

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And looks

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So I think they like bit of both

still temple May 28, 2019, 2:12 PM

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giga's turn radius is pretty bad in terms of realism

jovial blade May 28, 2019, 2:12 PM

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Realisim but balancing

pliant ember May 28, 2019, 2:12 PM

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Anatomically they are correct
But still have a lot of liberty taken into account

viral creek May 28, 2019, 2:12 PM

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Whether some animals are accurate or not depends on the developer's tastes. Some animals look cool while still being accurate, others...not so much.

jovial blade May 28, 2019, 2:13 PM

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Eh it's mostly balancing I'd say

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Like rex

still temple May 28, 2019, 2:13 PM

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dondiSmug Cerato rex

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giant ass unbalanced lump of shit that was

jovial blade May 28, 2019, 2:13 PM

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Lol I wasnt around for that

pliant ember May 28, 2019, 2:13 PM

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Utah looks a lot like JP raptors along with the Rex looking like JP's and now the new spino looks like the JP spino

jovial blade May 28, 2019, 2:14 PM

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I hate that tbh

pliant ember May 28, 2019, 2:14 PM

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I don't

viral creek May 28, 2019, 2:14 PM

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I never thought the new spino looks like the jp spino.

jovial blade May 28, 2019, 2:14 PM

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It doesn't

still temple May 28, 2019, 2:14 PM

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depends on which head they go for

pliant ember May 28, 2019, 2:14 PM

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The snout is very reminiscent of it

viral creek May 28, 2019, 2:14 PM

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He looks far more intiminating. \

pliant ember May 28, 2019, 2:14 PM

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Head A at least

still temple May 28, 2019, 2:14 PM

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if they go for the chunky head, then it's JP3

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but if they go for notch head, than it's realistic-ish

viral creek May 28, 2019, 2:14 PM

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Also jp spino has a puny sail and I think even longer legs?

still temple May 28, 2019, 2:14 PM

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ye

jovial blade May 28, 2019, 2:14 PM

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The sail is different pretty much it

still temple May 28, 2019, 2:15 PM

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regardless TI spino is pretty far from JP3

jovial blade May 28, 2019, 2:15 PM

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And if they go for the skinny snout

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That would be different

viral creek May 28, 2019, 2:15 PM

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I like the jp rex and raptor-ish. But I don't really like jp's spino design.

jovial blade May 28, 2019, 2:15 PM

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I like the skinny snout look

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For sure

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📎 20190512_222532.jpg

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Are we allowed to post pics here?

pliant ember May 28, 2019, 2:16 PM

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TI designs are pretty much JP with corrected anatomy
Change my mind

viral creek May 28, 2019, 2:17 PM

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The utah, certainly

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Maybe the rex. Idk

pliant ember May 28, 2019, 2:17 PM

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Rex too

viral creek May 28, 2019, 2:17 PM

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Jp rex has a slightly different skull shape?

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Not sure

pliant ember May 28, 2019, 2:17 PM

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JP Rex has a more bulky looking skull

viral creek May 28, 2019, 2:17 PM

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Yeah that

pliant ember May 28, 2019, 2:17 PM

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But the similarities are there

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Packy is also a little reminiscent of JP's Packy in some ways

viral creek May 28, 2019, 2:18 PM

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Pachy is super thicc

pliant ember May 28, 2019, 2:18 PM

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It has the same heavy looking built

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Truly

still temple May 28, 2019, 2:19 PM

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pachy just looks like pachy

viral creek May 28, 2019, 2:19 PM

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TI's pachy is just the best pachy design

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lil beefcake

still temple May 28, 2019, 2:19 PM

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not much wiggle room there

pliant ember May 28, 2019, 2:20 PM

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Yeah

unborn quail May 28, 2019, 2:22 PM

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I wouldn't say all the designs, most bare no resemblance to jp /jw

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Allo, Carno, and Sucho for example

blazing charm May 28, 2019, 2:31 PM

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I mean, you posted a suggestion. People didn't like it.

barren zephyr May 28, 2019, 2:31 PM

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👀

blazing charm May 28, 2019, 2:31 PM

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You are opening yourself to criticism.

lilac swallow May 28, 2019, 2:31 PM

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Guy you just propose either things people dont want, things that has been said no by devs or confirmed things

versed blaze May 28, 2019, 2:32 PM

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Do not provoke, or continue a "flame war" (ex. If someone were to insult you, instead of replying you should inform a moderator)

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Chill. Everyone

barren zephyr May 28, 2019, 2:33 PM

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👀 🍵

pliant ember May 28, 2019, 2:34 PM

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But you better

barren zephyr May 28, 2019, 2:35 PM

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@feral wedge help

versed blaze May 28, 2019, 2:35 PM

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Excuse me?

lilac swallow May 28, 2019, 2:35 PM

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It seems having an opinion makes you a bad guy

versed blaze May 28, 2019, 2:35 PM

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Bye

pliant ember May 28, 2019, 2:35 PM

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Chuckles*
I'm in danger

barren zephyr May 28, 2019, 2:35 PM

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this is the good tea

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Well now that that’s over, Jaffad, you’re suggestion about the biomes you posted days ago, I like it

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I never got around to voicing my opinions

blazing charm May 28, 2019, 2:36 PM

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I mean, ya kinda did. We were talking while I was brainstorming

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but thank ya, any criticisms?

barren zephyr May 28, 2019, 2:37 PM

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Nah it’s good; I’m not a fan of the biomes you put in but that doesn’t mean they wouldn’t be a good fit

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Also they would add diversity

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id take any biome honestly

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which the isle needs

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i cant see the same pine trees anymore

blazing charm May 28, 2019, 3:18 PM

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@ionic comet You need to offer some kind of proposed solution.

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Like, should it be made FASTER, more health, damage?

ionic comet May 28, 2019, 3:18 PM

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Damage

blazing charm May 28, 2019, 3:22 PM

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Okaaay, how much?

jovial blade May 28, 2019, 3:45 PM

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I'd probably wait for the new combat

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Buffing stuff rn or nerfing wouldnt be wise

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Because we don't know how well they will perform in new combat. They might be strong or weaker in it so I'd wait before having those suggestions

clever leaf May 28, 2019, 4:36 PM

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"giga is an apex"

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So is rex

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Yet rex is actually killable for midtier packs

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Apex doesn't necessarily mean be invincible

indigo sun May 28, 2019, 4:55 PM

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Apexes should be killable to keep the ecosystem in check. And giga fucks up literally everything below it. It shouldnt do that

grand brook May 28, 2019, 5:17 PM

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To the giga thing, apexes are stronger they are afterall giants and can deal incredible damage and their health is very high as to be expected, that doesn't mean however they are invincible. A lion is very strong, yet a clan of hyenas can tear it to pieces if bold enough, a tiger is argueably even stronger on it's own and yet if a herd of buffalos gets pissed they'll send it's ass flying. What I'm trying to say is this is survival, no animal is a 100% safe, welcome to the jungle

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And to the maia suggestion, it may look weird but it literally is the only way hadrosaurs could run, if they ran at all fours they would break their arms. Hell that's the reason they have a giant stiff tail in the first place to balance the animal and steer it's running

brittle merlin May 28, 2019, 5:25 PM

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the shants run on all 4s...

lilac swallow May 28, 2019, 5:29 PM

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This game doesnt aim for realism, but hadrosaurs like Maia did run on 2 so idk why you complain

brittle merlin May 28, 2019, 5:29 PM

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and they are hadrasaurs that are way heavier

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because they look stupid

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I love maias but I hate playing them because they look goofy and stupid when they run

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also, I am pretty sure the game does aim for realism ==

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=/

lilac swallow May 28, 2019, 5:31 PM

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Para is heavier and run on 2 in fact Maia is a small hadrosaur

brittle merlin May 28, 2019, 5:32 PM

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paraa bodies arnt like a straight horizontal line

lilac swallow May 28, 2019, 5:32 PM

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And no, this game doesnt aim for realism thats why our utah looks nothing like utah

brittle merlin May 28, 2019, 5:32 PM

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how tf do u know what a Utah looks like? only thing it is missing is the feathers... which is a thing in the future

grand brook May 28, 2019, 5:33 PM

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what about the fact that shants run on all fours changes the fact that hadrosaurs ran on 2?

lilac swallow May 28, 2019, 5:33 PM

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And talking about realism, shantu running the way It runs being as heavy as a sauropod would break its front legg

grand brook May 28, 2019, 5:33 PM

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the shant's animations are outdated at best

brittle merlin May 28, 2019, 5:33 PM

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not necessarily... u dont know how strong their legs where, and they where mostly back heavy too

lilac swallow May 28, 2019, 5:34 PM

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dondiSquint , first utah had feathers second utah skeleton structure is nothing like our utah, real utah is robust

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Guy shant litteraly puts all its weight on its front leggs during run It will break it

grand brook May 28, 2019, 5:35 PM

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they call it utah because of the size, in everything else it's a more anatomically correct JP raptor

brazen wolf May 28, 2019, 5:35 PM

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it's just a game and everything need to be balanced

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so what will happend if the humans come in

brittle merlin May 28, 2019, 5:35 PM

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I have seen an actual paleontologist say the Utah in this game was accurate =/

brazen wolf May 28, 2019, 5:35 PM

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then what will we be complaining about

grand brook May 28, 2019, 5:36 PM

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wut?

lilac swallow May 28, 2019, 5:36 PM

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Utah in this game is the less accurate dino

brazen wolf May 28, 2019, 5:36 PM

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it's just a game

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so all need balance

grand brook May 28, 2019, 5:36 PM

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and? what the hell has to do with what we are discussing?

lilac swallow May 28, 2019, 5:37 PM

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We are discussing if the game is reallistic or not, not if It should be

brazen wolf May 28, 2019, 5:37 PM

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haha.. so it's just about the balancing , dont have to do with reality

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you can make the Trex fly

brittle merlin May 28, 2019, 5:38 PM

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wtf r u going on about?

grand brook May 28, 2019, 5:38 PM

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the thing is, it needs to be somewhat grounded

brittle merlin May 28, 2019, 5:38 PM

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if this game makes the rex fly, I am quitting it

grand brook May 28, 2019, 5:38 PM

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wait @brazen wolf are you talking about the giga thing?

brazen wolf May 28, 2019, 5:39 PM

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no we talking about realism

brittle merlin May 28, 2019, 5:39 PM

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u where going on about balancing

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not realism

brazen wolf May 28, 2019, 5:39 PM

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it's all similar topic

lilac swallow May 28, 2019, 5:40 PM

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No

brittle merlin May 28, 2019, 5:40 PM

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not at all

lilac swallow May 28, 2019, 5:40 PM

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We are just talking about if the game is reallistic or not, is not a balance vs realism disscusion

brazen wolf May 28, 2019, 5:40 PM

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why not with realism there is no balancing

grand brook May 28, 2019, 5:40 PM

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ok so balancing to you means an untouchable giga?

brazen wolf May 28, 2019, 5:40 PM

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in real life herbs were much slower

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then carnivor

brittle merlin May 28, 2019, 5:41 PM

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that is just a load of bs raptor =/

brazen wolf May 28, 2019, 5:41 PM

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giga is mortal

lilac swallow May 28, 2019, 5:41 PM

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Uncle seriously you read anything i write?

brazen wolf May 28, 2019, 5:41 PM

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any thing can kill it

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Rex

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Trike

grand brook May 28, 2019, 5:41 PM

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galli? slow ?

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ok

brazen wolf May 28, 2019, 5:41 PM

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Group of allo

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Group of dillo

grand brook May 28, 2019, 5:41 PM

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and?

brazen wolf May 28, 2019, 5:41 PM

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it's just it's harder

brittle merlin May 28, 2019, 5:41 PM

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tf u mean all herbis where slower?

brazen wolf May 28, 2019, 5:41 PM

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it's Apex bro

lilac swallow May 28, 2019, 5:41 PM

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Ha, giga is inmortal to non apexes

grand brook May 28, 2019, 5:41 PM

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and?

brittle merlin May 28, 2019, 5:41 PM

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u can't honestly tell me you think a rex could outrun a galli

brazen wolf May 28, 2019, 5:41 PM

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what do you expect from 7 hour growth

grand brook May 28, 2019, 5:42 PM

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6,5 hours

brazen wolf May 28, 2019, 5:42 PM

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you want to grow 2 hour dillo an kill bunch of giga

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?

lilac swallow May 28, 2019, 5:42 PM

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Idk, neither rex nor trike are inmortal

grand brook May 28, 2019, 5:42 PM

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trike is pretty mortal

brittle merlin May 28, 2019, 5:42 PM

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nobody said anything was immortal dude

grand brook May 28, 2019, 5:42 PM

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rex too if under the right conditions

brazen wolf May 28, 2019, 5:42 PM

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Trike and Rex need alt buff

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in my openion

grand brook May 28, 2019, 5:42 PM

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no

brazen wolf May 28, 2019, 5:42 PM

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they just get bullied by dillo

brittle merlin May 28, 2019, 5:42 PM

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alt needs to be removed imo

brazen wolf May 28, 2019, 5:42 PM

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Dillo need bleed nurf

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All need speed nurf

lilac swallow May 28, 2019, 5:43 PM

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Alt will stay forever

brittle merlin May 28, 2019, 5:43 PM

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it is temporary

brazen wolf May 28, 2019, 5:43 PM

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Allo need bleed nurf

grand brook May 28, 2019, 5:43 PM

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dude did your giga get killed by dilos?

brittle merlin May 28, 2019, 5:43 PM

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deves have said it themselves

lilac swallow May 28, 2019, 5:43 PM

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Confirmed by devs

brazen wolf May 28, 2019, 5:43 PM

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yes multiple time

brittle merlin May 28, 2019, 5:43 PM

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alt is a temporary solution to ass riding

brazen wolf May 28, 2019, 5:43 PM

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dillo kill me

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good dillo players

lilac swallow May 28, 2019, 5:43 PM

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Alt is staying

brazen wolf May 28, 2019, 5:43 PM

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need to get some bites and let it bleed

brittle merlin May 28, 2019, 5:43 PM

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not for long

lilac swallow May 28, 2019, 5:43 PM

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For ever

brittle merlin May 28, 2019, 5:43 PM

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will most likely be gone after the recode

brazen wolf May 28, 2019, 5:43 PM

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i got kill by rex

indigo sun May 28, 2019, 5:43 PM

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Alt turn will be staying mate

brazen wolf May 28, 2019, 5:43 PM

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killed by allo

lilac swallow May 28, 2019, 5:43 PM

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Seriously ask on #401464048610312195

grand brook May 28, 2019, 5:44 PM

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well yeah, for all it's perks apex growth is hard and it needs to be

indigo sun May 28, 2019, 5:44 PM

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They've said theyre getting rid of the option to disable it

brazen wolf May 28, 2019, 5:44 PM

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you just want to grow 2 hour dillo and kill all the Apex

grand brook May 28, 2019, 5:44 PM

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not really, one bite and that dilo is gone

brazen wolf May 28, 2019, 5:44 PM

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how do you feel about a guygrowing 6 hour dino harder

lilac swallow May 28, 2019, 5:44 PM

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Raptor stop saying thing we never said

grand brook May 28, 2019, 5:44 PM

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it's very weak outside of it's bleed

brazen wolf May 28, 2019, 5:44 PM

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then killed by a bunch of 2 hour dillo

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or raptor

lilac swallow May 28, 2019, 5:45 PM

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If they are good enought why not? Rex and trike can actually die to them

brazen wolf May 28, 2019, 5:45 PM

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They are called Apex for a reason

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takes 6 hours

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if you find them in that 6 hours

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you could easily kill em

lilac swallow May 28, 2019, 5:45 PM

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Apexes because they are the strongest not inmortal, for inmortal we have hypos

brazen wolf May 28, 2019, 5:45 PM

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You dont think about killing a sub

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you guys are happy

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but that sub takes 4 hours

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to grow

lilac swallow May 28, 2019, 5:46 PM

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Nobody said they die easy, It just that is posible they die

brazen wolf May 28, 2019, 5:46 PM

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then when adult you cry about not being able to fight it

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coz they are op

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alt and bull shit

lilac swallow May 28, 2019, 5:46 PM

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I primarly play trike, i know what is a long and shitty grow

brazen wolf May 28, 2019, 5:47 PM

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Giga is the hardest Apex to grow

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and killed by rex easily

lilac swallow May 28, 2019, 5:47 PM

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Trike is worse

brazen wolf May 28, 2019, 5:47 PM

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Trike eat grass

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so it's easy to find one

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ever been a sub gia and go for ava

indigo sun May 28, 2019, 5:47 PM

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Giga is killed by rex cause it kills everything else super easiy

lilac swallow May 28, 2019, 5:47 PM

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Ha, giga can run away, what can trike do vs rex

brazen wolf May 28, 2019, 5:47 PM

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alone?

indigo sun May 28, 2019, 5:47 PM

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*easily

brazen wolf May 28, 2019, 5:47 PM

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Trike need buff

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but that's different topic

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i main giga

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so got to diefencd what it currently have

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there is too less giga players

lilac swallow May 28, 2019, 5:48 PM

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Is not like ai spawn just at your side when you are hungry its not different from a bush

brazen wolf May 28, 2019, 5:48 PM

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but rex comes to check it out

grand brook May 28, 2019, 5:48 PM

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^

brazen wolf May 28, 2019, 5:48 PM

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all the apex

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non apex

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they are fukin loud

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if you get seen you dead

grand brook May 28, 2019, 5:49 PM

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and they will kill you because you are a future threat

brazen wolf May 28, 2019, 5:49 PM

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how does that feel for 6 hours

grand brook May 28, 2019, 5:49 PM

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predators do that

brazen wolf May 28, 2019, 5:49 PM

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growing in bush

lilac swallow May 28, 2019, 5:49 PM

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Trike cant move without whole the map noticibg it

brazen wolf May 28, 2019, 5:49 PM

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trike have herds

lilac swallow May 28, 2019, 5:49 PM

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Giga has packs

brazen wolf May 28, 2019, 5:49 PM

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well it's hard to find giga packs

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they are going extinct

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coz rex is super fast

grand brook May 28, 2019, 5:50 PM

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no they are not

brazen wolf May 28, 2019, 5:50 PM

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and they killin them all

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no one like to play giga

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ask ppl

lilac swallow May 28, 2019, 5:50 PM

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And no, actually trikes rarelly has herbs is just thet the ones you see is because they are in herbs if not they are hidden

brazen wolf May 28, 2019, 5:50 PM

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they slow

grand brook May 28, 2019, 5:50 PM

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by that logic dibbles are going extinct because they aren't usually common

brazen wolf May 28, 2019, 5:50 PM

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well let giga keep it's alt turn

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the thing is giga is not fast

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and you can run away

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you choose to fight it

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so you die . why cry

grand brook May 28, 2019, 5:51 PM

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and be an almost untouchable midtier nightmare? Pass

brazen wolf May 28, 2019, 5:51 PM

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haha ... midtier can run away easy

lilac swallow May 28, 2019, 5:51 PM

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Giga has twice the Rex stam and rex is a fucking loud battleship if It gets to you sorry, you deserved it

brazen wolf May 28, 2019, 5:51 PM

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giga is the slowest of all

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you could run away from rex too

grand brook May 28, 2019, 5:52 PM

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trike?

lilac swallow May 28, 2019, 5:52 PM

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Giga is about endurance

brazen wolf May 28, 2019, 5:52 PM

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rex is super fast

grand brook May 28, 2019, 5:52 PM

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it's slower?

brazen wolf May 28, 2019, 5:52 PM

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Trike need buf f that's all

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hit buff

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it's super fat to run anyway

lilac swallow May 28, 2019, 5:52 PM

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Actually giga is the most capable apex at moving

grand brook May 28, 2019, 5:52 PM

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it can trot it's prey to death

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one bite

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and it's done

brazen wolf May 28, 2019, 5:52 PM

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but need to land the bite

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it's slower then rex

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and it's hard to trot and catch prey

lilac swallow May 28, 2019, 5:53 PM

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Rex run only 30 sec and its ambush is 5(with momentum is even less) is easy to run away

grand brook May 28, 2019, 5:53 PM

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if you carch them by surprise they aren't

brazen wolf May 28, 2019, 5:53 PM

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the tracking system dont work half of the time

grand brook May 28, 2019, 5:53 PM

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hunting is hard

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welcome to carni life

brazen wolf May 28, 2019, 5:53 PM

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have you tried it

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30 second is alot

lilac swallow May 28, 2019, 5:53 PM

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You say you main giga but you seem you dont know how is It played

brazen wolf May 28, 2019, 5:54 PM

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well teach me then

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how to play giga

lilac swallow May 28, 2019, 5:54 PM

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I have even tested, Rex has to stay 20 meter from a giga to catch it, 20 metters is nothing

brazen wolf May 28, 2019, 5:54 PM

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you havent played rex then

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rex is fast

lilac swallow May 28, 2019, 5:55 PM

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Giga runs at 30, Rex at 33 they are almost the same speed

brazen wolf May 28, 2019, 5:55 PM

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no it's not comon

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it's alot faster

blazing charm May 28, 2019, 5:55 PM

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What the hell is that formatting.

brazen wolf May 28, 2019, 5:56 PM

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well there is alot of rex player right now then giga players

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i would choose rex too but dont like it's style

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of fightin

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what you play legendary

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Rex?

lilac swallow May 28, 2019, 5:57 PM

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Only played Rex once, never again

brazen wolf May 28, 2019, 5:57 PM

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so why you on Rex side

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you dont even play it

lilac swallow May 28, 2019, 5:58 PM

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Im on logic and balance side

jovial blade May 28, 2019, 5:58 PM

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Lol depends how skilled players are

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Gigas were rare on a server I play on

lilac swallow May 28, 2019, 5:58 PM

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Im not a biased bitch that only wants its dino to be good

jovial blade May 28, 2019, 5:58 PM

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Once skilled gigas startes decimating herds

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And doing good in tournaments

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Theres gigas every where now

lilac swallow May 28, 2019, 5:59 PM

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Giga just isnt played like rex

jovial blade May 28, 2019, 6:00 PM

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Rex combat is pretty boring ngl

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And I always end up dying to rexes

lilac swallow May 28, 2019, 6:00 PM

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Combat in general

jovial blade May 28, 2019, 6:00 PM

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And a rex fight is the worst

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Nah

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Giga is fun

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Bleeding stuff is fun

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Vs rex its interesting

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I try not get bit once

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I bait out the ambush and make it turn and I abuse that

brazen wolf May 28, 2019, 6:02 PM

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the thng Good Giga player does if it sees Rex is Run now

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Bleed dont work While Rex is faster and is on you ass

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with 1 or 2 hit bone break giga is a dead meat

jovial blade May 28, 2019, 6:03 PM

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That's why I avoid getting bit lol

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Just keep distance

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I'll stay in ambush most of fight

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And if rex gets close I trot back to my safe distance

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To where I can sprint away if he ambushes me

lilac swallow May 28, 2019, 6:04 PM

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Seriously uncle i cant stand anymore It is burning my brain cells, if you so sincerely think that giga is fine and Rex is too fast ask in #401464048610312195 they will argue with you if you are right or wrong

spiral pond May 28, 2019, 6:05 PM

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Wait are you suggesting that giga shoudn’t be vulnerable to small,mid and apex tiers Uncleraptor ?

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That’s some bullshit right there

brazen wolf May 28, 2019, 6:05 PM

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hahah

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i dont care it's a game

lilac swallow May 28, 2019, 6:05 PM

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And thinks Rex are un scapable

brazen wolf May 28, 2019, 6:05 PM

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i just dont wantgiga to get nrfed anymore

lilac swallow May 28, 2019, 6:05 PM

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Arent games supposed to be balanced?

brazen wolf May 28, 2019, 6:05 PM

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till the point i have to chage my dino to all

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Allo

spiral pond May 28, 2019, 6:05 PM

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Alt turn makes it invincible to anything that isn’t a Rex

jovial blade May 28, 2019, 6:06 PM

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I would rather the sub and juv stage to get speed buff instead of adult

brazen wolf May 28, 2019, 6:06 PM

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Its not invincible

lilac swallow May 28, 2019, 6:06 PM

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People consider
giga top 3, a bit nerf wont hurt it

brazen wolf May 28, 2019, 6:06 PM

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you just too bad to play dillo

spiral pond May 28, 2019, 6:06 PM

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I see you go from meta Dino n.1 to meta Dino n.2

brazen wolf May 28, 2019, 6:06 PM

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a pak of dillo can easily kill giga

jovial blade May 28, 2019, 6:06 PM

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Lol giga isnt invisible

spiral pond May 28, 2019, 6:06 PM

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You wish

jovial blade May 28, 2019, 6:06 PM

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Its just very hard to kill

spiral pond May 28, 2019, 6:06 PM

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With that hitbox

jovial blade May 28, 2019, 6:06 PM

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You will losse some pack members

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But you can bleed it out

spiral pond May 28, 2019, 6:07 PM

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Not really

jovial blade May 28, 2019, 6:07 PM

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Its just up to you if you think it's worth the risk

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It really is

brazen wolf May 28, 2019, 6:07 PM

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well what do you expect grown one hour dino and kill 6 hour dino?

spiral pond May 28, 2019, 6:07 PM

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Cause it will just shrug it off

brazen wolf May 28, 2019, 6:07 PM

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they suppose to be hard

jovial blade May 28, 2019, 6:07 PM

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Unless you expect cera pack to donit

brazen wolf May 28, 2019, 6:07 PM

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it's not a free meal

jovial blade May 28, 2019, 6:07 PM

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A big allo pack can do it

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If they play right

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But they WILL losse some

lilac swallow May 28, 2019, 6:07 PM

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Hard =/= almost imposible

jovial blade May 28, 2019, 6:07 PM

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In the process

spiral pond May 28, 2019, 6:07 PM

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Do you expect a 6 hour Dino to win to a pack of 3 hour Dino’s in group of ten which is 30 hours ?

jovial blade May 28, 2019, 6:08 PM

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Lol yes

brazen wolf May 28, 2019, 6:08 PM

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well what do you want you want to grow 2 hour dillo form a pack

jovial blade May 28, 2019, 6:08 PM

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They're individually half the ammount it took

brazen wolf May 28, 2019, 6:08 PM

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and kill all the Apex in the server?

jovial blade May 28, 2019, 6:08 PM

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Mini

normal fern May 28, 2019, 6:08 PM

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A pack of say 4 allos should fuck up a giga

jovial blade May 28, 2019, 6:08 PM

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Your logic is

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Is 100 dryos should win

lilac swallow May 28, 2019, 6:08 PM

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We just want giga to be killable in the same lvl a Rex is

jovial blade May 28, 2019, 6:08 PM

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Because together it's more hours

spiral pond May 28, 2019, 6:09 PM

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Giga is in point where it 3 shots trike with bleed and 1 shots all midtiers

jovial blade May 28, 2019, 6:09 PM

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Rex is played differently

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Omg discord isnt sending messages

spiral pond May 28, 2019, 6:10 PM

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It has third fastest alt turn and is the second with most weight

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Makes no sense

lilac swallow May 28, 2019, 6:10 PM

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Mini, Nines seriously bring this convo to #401464048610312195 , let the guys show him the truth

spiral pond May 28, 2019, 6:10 PM

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K

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I don’t wanna waste my brain cells over this, I have to do math

jovial blade May 28, 2019, 6:11 PM

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Yea because 100 dryos should beat giga

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Because more hours together

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You got the math right

lilac swallow May 28, 2019, 6:11 PM

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Yeah thats why im telling you tonlet the guys Talk for you

spiral pond May 28, 2019, 6:11 PM

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Ok

jovial blade May 28, 2019, 6:11 PM

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😂

spiral pond May 28, 2019, 6:11 PM

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Tell me why should 10 suchos lose to single giga

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Go

lilac swallow May 28, 2019, 6:11 PM

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Go

jovial blade May 28, 2019, 6:11 PM

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They don't

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They can win

lilac swallow May 28, 2019, 6:11 PM

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They do

spiral pond May 28, 2019, 6:11 PM

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They do

jovial blade May 28, 2019, 6:11 PM

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Maybe because you're god awful

spiral pond May 28, 2019, 6:11 PM

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They get 1 shot

jovial blade May 28, 2019, 6:12 PM

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No they dont wtf

indigo sun May 28, 2019, 6:12 PM

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They do. Because giga's fuckin untouchable and 1 shots them all

jovial blade May 28, 2019, 6:12 PM

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Rex doesnt even 1 shot sucho

spiral pond May 28, 2019, 6:12 PM

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Yes they do

jovial blade May 28, 2019, 6:12 PM

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Fuck you on about

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Lmfao

spiral pond May 28, 2019, 6:12 PM

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It’s direct 2 shot with just raw

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Also bleed is a thing

lilac swallow May 28, 2019, 6:12 PM

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Ok should we call an admin?

jovial blade May 28, 2019, 6:12 PM

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"1 shot"

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If you have 10 suchos and you can't beat a single giga I'm sorry that you're that bad

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Yeah you will losse some suchos in the fight

indigo sun May 28, 2019, 6:13 PM

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Giga can spin like a goddamn beyblade and kill them easily

jovial blade May 28, 2019, 6:14 PM

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Yeah if you're aren't coordinated at all

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If you're fighting like headless chickens

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It also comes down to player skill

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I've seen 6 allos beat a giga

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And only 2 allos died

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They coordinated really well

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But it depends if you're using vc

night mountain May 28, 2019, 6:15 PM

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i mean, like one dilo can kill a rex if you're good enough

jovial blade May 28, 2019, 6:15 PM

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And calling attacks

indigo sun May 28, 2019, 6:16 PM

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This conversation is being continued in #401464048610312195 feel free to go there

jovial blade May 28, 2019, 6:16 PM

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You chose to go there

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Not sure why

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But I've put my points

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So no point repeating

lilac swallow May 28, 2019, 6:17 PM

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Because there are people who actually have time to repeat every thing to you

jovial blade May 28, 2019, 6:17 PM

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I dont though

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Sorry

grand brook May 28, 2019, 6:20 PM

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"100 dryos should win" I mean...a 100 rats could devour a tiger alive if they were coordinated

spiral pond May 28, 2019, 6:21 PM

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Actually I’d believe that

grand brook May 28, 2019, 6:22 PM

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do you know how much is a 100 small creatures?

spiral pond May 28, 2019, 6:22 PM

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Those rats in plague tale: innocence are hella scary

grand brook May 28, 2019, 6:22 PM

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that's legit a swarm

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well anyway, the giga is the midtiers nightmare and it should be kept that way, but it shouldn't be invincible to it's own prey

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cape buffalos die to lions, yet a buffalo will gore it if it defends itself

spiral pond May 28, 2019, 6:23 PM

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It will still kill its prey even if you nerf its alt turn to absolute garbage

indigo sun May 28, 2019, 6:24 PM

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It should have decent alt turn, but not like what it has currently

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It has no need for the alt turn speed it has now

spiral pond May 28, 2019, 6:24 PM

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I agree

lilac swallow May 28, 2019, 6:24 PM

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They act like if we want giga useles but we dont

night mountain May 28, 2019, 6:24 PM

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cape buffalos win against lions 1v1 so thats a bad argument

grand brook May 28, 2019, 6:24 PM

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alt turn should be based on the size and weight of the animal

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you can already sort of see it with the trike and rex where it actually is slower than in smaller dinos

night mountain May 28, 2019, 6:25 PM

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i dont get why trikes are THAT slow

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especially the swim speed

grand brook May 28, 2019, 6:25 PM

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because they are tanks

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swim speed...well i'm not sure about that one i don't usually swim as a trike

night mountain May 28, 2019, 6:26 PM

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i mean yeah but i dont see any reason to make their swim speed one centimeter an hour

grand brook May 28, 2019, 6:26 PM

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sure maybe they could buff it's swimming speed I guess

night mountain May 28, 2019, 6:27 PM

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im gonna suggest that actually

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makes crossing water a nightmare and its not like it swimming a bit faster breaks anything

ionic comet May 28, 2019, 6:27 PM

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Same with para

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its SLOW AF

grand brook May 28, 2019, 6:27 PM

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but it's not really an aquatic dinosaur, sure maybe in the future it may require mudbaths to up it's affinity

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but otherwise they are basically land creatures

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what I don't get is why the giga swims fast

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anyways the gigas alt turn should be similar to the one of the other apexes, is a multiton animal it's going to take an effort to turn around

spiral pond May 28, 2019, 6:28 PM

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“Cause it needs to catch suchos in water”

night mountain May 28, 2019, 6:29 PM

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imo all the swimming species should be faster than they are

ionic comet May 28, 2019, 6:29 PM

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because of pred bias

night mountain May 28, 2019, 6:29 PM

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its dumb they're no faster than non aquatics mostly

grand brook May 28, 2019, 6:29 PM

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you cannot have a giant dino turning around faster than a diablo wich is smaller and quadrupedal

spiral pond May 28, 2019, 6:29 PM

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I think that someone should make a meme out of giga and ballerina

night mountain May 28, 2019, 6:30 PM

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yeah quadrupeds should get better turning automatically

grand brook May 28, 2019, 6:30 PM

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diablo is kind of a bad example though, it's walking turning speed is marvelous

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it can turn mid run without stoping

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sucho should be faster than a giga on water it's a no brainer

sick crescent May 28, 2019, 7:25 PM

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@night mountain you have my attention dondiChamp

paper oriole May 28, 2019, 7:28 PM

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The multiple trike buffing suggestions is lovely to see <3

barren zephyr May 28, 2019, 8:22 PM

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giga is not hard to grow stop acting like a crybaby with that suggestion most gigas i been with always grow their "hard to grow" when low players are on and ai becomes so fucking retarded and easy it spawns inside your fatass sub giga that afks and watches anime instead of actively playing the game.
sorry for being toxic 😇

umbral prairie May 28, 2019, 8:23 PM

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giga is not hard to grow, it's just not fun

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but since you can afk your way up to adult

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the shitty juvie/sub stages don't really matter

jovial blade May 28, 2019, 8:51 PM

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It's literally the least fun thing to grow

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Its along side the sucho on fun level

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To grow

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It has no good gameplay

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People literally afk grow gigas

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Rex atleast is fast as a juv, the sub is all round good and does really well making growing fun

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@barren zephyr

burnt fern May 28, 2019, 11:14 PM

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@stray cloak
could be abused by taking bites out of pack members to keep from starving

proper condor May 28, 2019, 11:31 PM

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I have a question so how can i get food easier than finding ai or player bcus my smell only goes so far and its such a largge map

indigo sun May 28, 2019, 11:34 PM

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You really just have to be on the move and listen

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Don't rely on smell, rely on hearing

next nexus May 28, 2019, 11:39 PM

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^

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a good headset is actually a huge advantage because you can locate sounds much better

stray cloak May 28, 2019, 11:54 PM

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@burnt fern emphasis on small amount it should be enough that it helps stave off hunger for longer fights, but not enough that you could make any real progress towards survival by nibbling party members.

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Could also give less when biting a fellow carnivore and next to nothing when biting the same species

jovial blade May 28, 2019, 11:58 PM

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BOB Did everything man

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;_;

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I suggested vulture sounds for pteradon

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and apparently they did that already

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dondiSucc

barren zephyr May 29, 2019, 12:00 AM

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actually no.

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they gave vultures sounds to the velo in bob

brittle ivy May 29, 2019, 12:06 AM

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@spiral ravine #401464048610312195 if it isn’t a suggestion

spiral ravine May 29, 2019, 12:09 AM

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I like the idea, as I feel it forces players to actually build good combat skills.

barren zephyr May 29, 2019, 1:03 AM

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I have a suggestion, more content almost june and nothing. Oh and quit teasing everyone by playing dinos not yet in the game. Many bad reviews.

indigo sun May 29, 2019, 1:06 AM

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1.) Recode
2.) they play them to show them off and get people interested and show what's to come
3.) half the bad reviews are from people who are assholes and don't understand jack shit about balance, game development, or treating people like fellow human beings. Those people talk shit on the devs constantly and then get pissy and whiney when the devs defend themselves

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If you'd like to take a game with gum and popsicle stick code and turn that into concrete to make the game playable with, what, one other person? then be my guest mate.

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but until you've done that, don't beg for content that cant come yet until the recode is done

vestal rune May 29, 2019, 1:33 AM

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No content added for months
Doesn't bother to check steam news or the announcements on this fucking server which explains why there's no content

thorny lynx May 29, 2019, 1:49 AM

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@cobalt summit You do understand acro was a massive creature, about 5 and a half tons in game if he were to be properly balanced? He was 38 feet long and 6 and a half tons maximum, seven if I am being generous. He really should have upwards of 400-500 damage, weigh 5.5 tons, and 25-30 bleed. The fact you want to give acro 150 damage is absolutely ludicrous.

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Plus he needs a stam increase, since he will be downsized and so would his speed, which would give him Ceratosaurus Rex syndrome.

cobalt summit May 29, 2019, 1:51 AM

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To give it so much damage and weight would be to increase its growth time and make it fill a different niche than it does now. If we're talking realism, Rex should do upwards of 35k N damage with each bite, but that would be absolutely absurd. A giga shouldn't be able to run faster than 31KmH, but that would also be ridiculous. Game balance is as important to consider as realism.

thorny lynx May 29, 2019, 1:51 AM

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Why are you giving it less damage than a Utah, though?

cobalt summit May 29, 2019, 1:52 AM

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Its current stamina is what makes it such a subject of complaint from mid-tiers, and given how much ground it can cover with each sprint, a stamina decrease won't affect it too negatively, especially if it were to regenerate faster.

thorny lynx May 29, 2019, 1:53 AM

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You have to understand acro's model is oversized and needs to be shrunken considerably, somewhere between rex and sucho size. Thus, his speed would dramatically decease

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Think old cerato speed but just a bitfaster

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He won't be getting anywhere with the stam he has right now after he is resized

cobalt summit May 29, 2019, 1:54 AM

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Weight must always be taken into consideration. An animal weighing nearly 5 tons will hurt nearly anything it bites even with a small bite force, and to give it as much bleed as I think it should have while keeping its current bite force would be too much for something that is deliberately not an apex.

thorny lynx May 29, 2019, 1:54 AM

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It's already 4.79. Tons. Giving it at least 5 tons would not hurt it very much.

cobalt summit May 29, 2019, 1:54 AM

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That's an option I listed in my recommendations, as you'll see

thorny lynx May 29, 2019, 1:54 AM

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It has 250 damage right now. You know this, right? It has less damage than a cerato.

cobalt summit May 29, 2019, 1:55 AM

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A spinosaurus has the same.

thorny lynx May 29, 2019, 1:55 AM

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And it can battle against rexes and gigas because it has 8 tons on it, in game

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Don't compare acro to an apex

cobalt summit May 29, 2019, 1:55 AM

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This isn't anything new, really. And with that much bleed it's not an unreasonable ask. Acro isn't meant to battle rexes and gigas.

thorny lynx May 29, 2019, 1:56 AM

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Neither are allos, utahs, carnos, ceratos, dilos, suchos, but they try, anyway

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And some succeed

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If properly balanced, a pack of 3 would give a rex a run for its money.

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And acro does not need that much bleed. 30 is fine right now.

cobalt summit May 29, 2019, 1:59 AM

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Drawing on what an acro was to make it a more interesting dino to play, and given that it definitely had shit for bite force — maybe, like allo, even less than a lion — I think making it a bleed machine is the best way forward. It's not realistic to make acro a brawler, given its jaw and teeth type, so to compensate for the bleed it should have, it shouldn't bite so hard.

thorny lynx May 29, 2019, 1:59 AM

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But look how big acro is. It's a heavy boi, it's a tank.

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It should be at least 5 tons, maybe 350, 400 damage if I am generous.

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It has 25 bleed right now, which is very generous for its size.

cobalt summit May 29, 2019, 2:01 AM

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And allo already holds that sort of middle ground between relying on bleed and relying on bite. Alberto will rely on bite and hopefully be something of a brawler. So, to keep Acro a dinosaur that's less than 4.5 hours max of growth time, it can't be OP. And it's not meant to bite hard. Its jaws are even less optimized for biting than allo.

thorny lynx May 29, 2019, 2:01 AM

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Then give it upwards of 30 bleed or something, 350 damage

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Don't give it 150 damage.

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It has plenty of teeth to shear off flesh.

cobalt summit May 29, 2019, 2:03 AM

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Being big doesn't make something a tank, necessarily. You can't facetank with everything over 5 tons and you shouldn't. Having a large carnivore that relies on bleed instead of bite, as the acro surely did, is a more nuanced and novel concept to implement with current gameplay. Letting it keep 250N of damage, if we're increasing its bleed to a more appropriate amount for its size (having less than Dilo and the same as Allo doesn't suit the Acro), is too powerful for a dinosaur that takes four hours to grow.

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The changes you're suggesting would necessitate a longer growth time, and if you get any longer than 4.5 hours, the acro loses its appeal and its niche.

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When its size is refitted to a proper scale, you're right -- its stamina shouldn't decrease, and perhaps its running animations need to change to account for the fact that it's not as heavy as it looks at its current size. Constant speed, whether trotting or running, is a critical part of acro's identity.

thorny lynx May 29, 2019, 2:06 AM

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Honestly, it could use more damage. I think 300 would be decent, maybe 35 bleed

cobalt summit May 29, 2019, 2:08 AM

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Again, that makes it too much of an in-the-middle. Acro is a hardline bleeder, judging from jaw shape and teeth type, and 300N and 35 bleed wouldn't reflect that. It's merely "just above average" on everything, instead of specializing.

stray cloak May 29, 2019, 2:08 AM

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my real issue with acro stats right now is their speed. they one shot things that can't hope to run away

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at that size, they should either be slower or be subject to turn radius issues

cobalt summit May 29, 2019, 2:09 AM

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I mean if we're gonna talk about unfair turn radius let's look at spino lmao

stray cloak May 29, 2019, 2:09 AM

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otherwise something like that would more than likely break a leg or fall or both

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can't really use non-survival as a standard to compare stats

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should be compared against allos, rexes, ceratos, gigas, etc

cobalt summit May 29, 2019, 2:11 AM

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When acro is resized, it won't be so OP, and given how short its ambush is, it needs that speed to escape something like a giga that has 20 entire seconds more in a sprint and a comparable trotting speed.

stray cloak May 29, 2019, 2:11 AM

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imo, it should be just a bit slower than allo

cobalt summit May 29, 2019, 2:12 AM

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If it were slower than allo it would be a terrible dino. Its resized speeds will already be a huge blow

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Allos, remember, have three minutes and thirty seconds of stamina

unborn quail May 29, 2019, 2:12 AM

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reminder that acro and spinosaurus arent balanced for survival or at all for that matter

cobalt summit May 29, 2019, 2:12 AM

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Which is one of the longest in the game

unborn quail May 29, 2019, 2:12 AM

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They havent been touched for a good year now.

stray cloak May 29, 2019, 2:12 AM

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it either needs a speed nerf to be comparable to allo, or a turn radius nerf like carno

cobalt summit May 29, 2019, 2:13 AM

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Since acro isn't meant to be a brawler, a running turn nerf makes sense

stray cloak May 29, 2019, 2:13 AM

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giving it speed and turn is just making it a utah that 1 shots other dinos

cobalt summit May 29, 2019, 2:14 AM

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But remember that if too much is nerfed it will become giga or rex food in a matter of seconds, and be especially targeted because it's so large and will give a lot of food

unborn quail May 29, 2019, 2:14 AM

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I mean, all I see here is just the exact reason why Acro is being made ai, Too similar to Giga and allo, and has a very rough spot to fit between.

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And even then, could just fit Acro between Giga and Rex on terms of speed, and give it a higher stamina value, doesn't need to be faster than something like an Allosaurus to be a viable playing option

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Even though it wont be Unless playing sandbox

stray cloak May 29, 2019, 2:17 AM

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i mean, from what i'm aware, it seems like it fits as a dino between an allo and rex with speeds slightly over giga but under allo

unborn quail May 29, 2019, 2:17 AM

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It's faster than allo last I recall

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Just very low stamina

stray cloak May 29, 2019, 2:17 AM

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i mean for rebalanced stats

unborn quail May 29, 2019, 2:18 AM

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The gap is way to small without turning acro into another asthma suffering animal

stray cloak May 29, 2019, 2:18 AM

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in it's current state, it's faster than dilo and pachy

unborn quail May 29, 2019, 2:18 AM

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Putting it between rex and giga allows it to have an actual stamina pool

stray cloak May 29, 2019, 2:18 AM

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giving it a poor turn radius to go with a higher speed makes sense both game balance wise and with what we know about real biology

unborn quail May 29, 2019, 2:19 AM

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Real biology has a very lose fitting in balance

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Wouldn't rely on that at all

stray cloak May 29, 2019, 2:20 AM

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something that size would likely break it's leg trying to turn while running fast i mean

unborn quail May 29, 2019, 2:20 AM

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Good thing this game isnt realistic centered

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Or animals like rex or giga wouldnt be full on sprinting

stray cloak May 29, 2019, 2:21 AM

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yeah, but in that case, that bit of realism also works for balance

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most of these things could at the very least run, but the bigger ones couldn't turn very well while doing so

unborn quail May 29, 2019, 2:22 AM

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But it also hurts the animal at the same time, if it has a terrible turn radius, barely faster than rex, similar stamina, how exactly is it going to out maneuver a rex

stray cloak May 29, 2019, 2:22 AM

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i mean if it is left with a speed above an allo

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same way a carno would do it essentially

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though wiht better turning than a carno

unborn quail May 29, 2019, 2:23 AM

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Yeah, that just sounds like a mess of balance if you ask me

stray cloak May 29, 2019, 2:24 AM

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not saying make it slow and unable to turn

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i'm saying at that size, it should take a loss in one of those

unborn quail May 29, 2019, 2:24 AM

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Making it slow is a more viable option

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Like I said before

stray cloak May 29, 2019, 2:24 AM

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i agree

unborn quail May 29, 2019, 2:24 AM

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Fit it between rex and giga, give it a decent stamina pool

stray cloak May 29, 2019, 2:24 AM

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but i know some people like their speed demons

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so i was giving 2 options that could work

unborn quail May 29, 2019, 2:25 AM

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They have Carnotaurus, Utah, and Galli for thay

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Large predator and speed demon should honestly stay away from one another

stray cloak May 29, 2019, 2:28 AM

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they can work in theory, but only if the large pred can't turn well

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i still think slower would be better for acro

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even as an ai

paper oriole May 29, 2019, 5:07 AM

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why tf do you want cloacas

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nasty

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who wants to look at their dinos ass hole whenever they pan up

shell willow May 29, 2019, 5:08 AM

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"""realism"""

paper oriole May 29, 2019, 5:08 AM

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i'm sure that's the reason

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def

dreamy portal May 29, 2019, 5:08 AM

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Coacas... assholes.... one of these things is not like the other

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please understand the difference

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it could save your life

paper oriole May 29, 2019, 5:09 AM

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i know what a cloaca is tyvm

edgy furnace May 29, 2019, 5:23 AM

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Nasty

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Don’t wanna look at my dinos ahole

naive raft May 29, 2019, 5:23 AM

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Rip saurapelta suggestion

nimble agate May 29, 2019, 5:24 AM

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When you find out how many players in the community want Dino assholes and the ability to have diarrhea if you stand for too long in one spot dondiYikes

edgy furnace May 29, 2019, 5:25 AM

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mild diarrhea

lunar sandal May 29, 2019, 5:25 AM

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wat?!

naive raft May 29, 2019, 5:25 AM

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Mega hershy squirts

paper oriole May 29, 2019, 5:25 AM

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oh no not the mild diarrhea again

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dondi save us all

nimble agate May 29, 2019, 5:26 AM

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But for real, adding a Dinosaur’s ass in would add 1% realism and 99% people having naughty dinosaur “mating role play”

edgy furnace May 29, 2019, 5:26 AM

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dondiYikes

paper oriole May 29, 2019, 5:26 AM

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oh god oh no

lunar sandal May 29, 2019, 5:26 AM

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.... you know what i'm not going to ask. i'll be going back to my hw now

paper oriole May 29, 2019, 5:27 AM

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good choice

edgy furnace May 29, 2019, 5:27 AM

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^

paper oriole May 29, 2019, 5:27 AM

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keep your dino cloacas to your deviantart accts

nimble agate May 29, 2019, 5:28 AM

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Plus I don’t think the devs would want to be known for animating dinosaur assholes

paper oriole May 29, 2019, 5:28 AM

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yeah some poor soul would have to model that shit from scratch

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think of the devs

edgy furnace May 29, 2019, 5:28 AM

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dondiGross

paper oriole May 29, 2019, 5:29 AM

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imagine being told to go back and add an asshole to every model

edgy furnace May 29, 2019, 5:31 AM

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Can people just not with these weird suggestions

languid wing May 29, 2019, 5:31 AM

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Saurapelta suggestion lost to the ethers

edgy furnace May 29, 2019, 5:32 AM

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~~one guy suggested Maia milk~~

paper oriole May 29, 2019, 5:32 AM

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i think its a cool dino tbh

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something that attacks with its sides instead of front or back would be decently unique

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remember the fire breathing para suggestion

edgy furnace May 29, 2019, 5:33 AM

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No I wasn’t there for it

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That dino looks cool but I feel itd be like a really crappy anky

naive raft May 29, 2019, 5:34 AM

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Would maia milk come from its cloaca

edgy furnace May 29, 2019, 5:34 AM

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dondiLUL

paper oriole May 29, 2019, 5:35 AM

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if they ever do "reskins" where they add subspecies based on existing rigs it'd be a neat edition

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oh jesus no

edgy furnace May 29, 2019, 5:35 AM

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If modding comes back I imagine someone could edit the model to be that

nimble agate May 29, 2019, 5:35 AM

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I don’t think the devs would even want to add an animation for laying an egg so I’m unsure if adding milk would be a good idea

paper oriole May 29, 2019, 5:36 AM

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yea mods can solve a ton of the desires for subspecies

shell willow May 29, 2019, 5:43 AM

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bruh the maia milk suggestion killed me

barren zephyr May 29, 2019, 6:25 AM

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the last suggestion physically hurts

paper oriole May 29, 2019, 6:29 AM

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it hurts almost as much as Trike's current status as an apex and need of a buff

marble ether May 29, 2019, 6:30 AM

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Not as much as the overpopulation of apexes in general

paper oriole May 29, 2019, 6:31 AM

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oh most certainly

night mountain May 29, 2019, 6:45 AM

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lmaooo the cloaca post

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give all dinosaurs visible nipples

paper oriole May 29, 2019, 6:46 AM

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ah yes can't have maia milk without maia nipples

grand brook May 29, 2019, 6:56 AM

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@cobalt summit I don't think player based ai should be a thing, it should be something that spawns in certain areas, afterall they are supossed to be animals that live on the map just like you are.

teal grotto May 29, 2019, 7:13 AM

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You know.. Maybe Ai should be Spawning in Every single place on all Kinds of Dinos in general... In cerian areas.. and you know be a pack of them.. and Not be focused on hunger.. but they still make noises..

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cause the island is not very lively..

torpid wedge May 29, 2019, 7:14 AM

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lag

teal grotto May 29, 2019, 7:14 AM

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Opimize the server

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:/

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Cause its not very Lively at all

uneven epoch May 29, 2019, 2:42 PM

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Yeah it really isnt

elder swan May 29, 2019, 3:16 PM

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@keen trail that would get abused so much though. you're getting hunted? go afk mode as a new form of food denial, more annoyingform of battle logging

dreamy portal May 29, 2019, 3:16 PM

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invisible is impossible as a suggestion aswell.

keen trail May 29, 2019, 3:17 PM

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No there a timer on it so you can’t

dreamy portal May 29, 2019, 3:17 PM

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It would get hyper abused, and if there is a timer why not just wait for the logout or take your chances

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in a survival game it makes more sense for you to be on edge, if you're willing to commit 6 hours for an apex you can commit 60 seconds to safely log out and get back in

keen trail May 29, 2019, 3:17 PM

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Well I said why in the message did you not read it all?

dreamy portal May 29, 2019, 3:18 PM

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"What it could do is just make you invisible and so that you can’t die and you have to be sitting down to use it. But you cannot move while using it."

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so a rest that makes you invincible or invisible

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so gigas can camp out populations and then stand up to murder something.

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out of the blue.

vagrant crest May 29, 2019, 3:19 PM

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Is it really that hard to wait 60s to log out?

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Gotta go afk? log out

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Otherwise

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Getting hunted? go afk mode

dreamy portal May 29, 2019, 3:20 PM

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tfw you just wanted to go afk but you turned into an Indominus by accident.

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dondiLUL

vagrant crest May 29, 2019, 3:21 PM

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Having a hard time getting back into a server? Maybe a que would help more.

dreamy portal May 29, 2019, 3:21 PM

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I agree on the que

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being que'd up would be a nice touch up to that with a timer rather than fingers crossing on if i get in on that 99/100 server

vagrant crest May 29, 2019, 3:22 PM

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I agree. Having a guaranteed seat in line appeals to me much more than trying to win the lottery

dreamy portal May 29, 2019, 3:22 PM

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opinions on sucho discussion?

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How do we fix the Sucho.

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I assumed making them mostly water based and being able to eat water corpses would prevent food deniers aswell as give them a reason to hang out at the beach

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I understand that just means that now Sucho's can food abuse or camp out entire bodies of water unopposed

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but currently i rarely see them so a little edge wouldn't be too bad

vagrant crest May 29, 2019, 3:24 PM

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I personally think sucho is fine, and that players are not leveraging it's strengths.

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It's got the speed/stam to get away from apex's (granted rex doesn't get too close....It's a walking billboard) It's strong enough to slaughter mids

dreamy portal May 29, 2019, 3:26 PM

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Yeah but i'm seeing them get unplayed.

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i've run into maybe... 3

vagrant crest May 29, 2019, 3:26 PM

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That's just because ppl would rather invest 2 more hours of growth and be a giga

dreamy portal May 29, 2019, 3:26 PM

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mm whats the growth rate for one?

vagrant crest May 29, 2019, 3:26 PM

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sucho doesn't have the water mechanics that ppl desperately want

elder swan May 29, 2019, 3:27 PM

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sucho was never ready for survival

vagrant crest May 29, 2019, 3:27 PM

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📎 unknown.png

dreamy portal May 29, 2019, 3:27 PM

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If they're wanting to setup that large water crossing for the spino integration

vagrant crest May 29, 2019, 3:27 PM

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If you play sucho as a land based creature. It's fine.

dreamy portal May 29, 2019, 3:27 PM

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they'll need to balance the sucho too

vagrant crest May 29, 2019, 3:27 PM

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It bullies mids and can escape threats.

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Granted, allo does the same job and takes less time

dreamy portal May 29, 2019, 3:28 PM

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I think the water aspect is something they're working on and they'll get it down by then.

vagrant crest May 29, 2019, 3:28 PM

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and has a much easier time killing solo apex's with group play

dreamy portal May 29, 2019, 3:28 PM

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but, for now being able to camp out waterholes would benefit it more

vagrant crest May 29, 2019, 3:29 PM

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So why play sucho when you can be an allo(less time, or a giga(slightly more time)

dreamy portal May 29, 2019, 3:29 PM

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See thats the thing, my allo group ran up on two sucho's and slaughtered them outright.

vagrant crest May 29, 2019, 3:29 PM

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No, camping water as a sucho just means you're gonna die

dreamy portal May 29, 2019, 3:29 PM

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there were maybe.. 4 of us.

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vs 2 adult suchos

vagrant crest May 29, 2019, 3:29 PM

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Sucho's are stronger then allo

dreamy portal May 29, 2019, 3:29 PM

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you're gonna die but if you let the sucho not lose stam while idling in water

vagrant crest May 29, 2019, 3:29 PM

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anad I hate to say it, but those were probably not great sucho players

dreamy portal May 29, 2019, 3:30 PM

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giga's rexes etc.. aren't gonna swim out to the middle of the lake to try and take one on

vagrant crest May 29, 2019, 3:30 PM

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Yes. Use up all of your stam in the water, so that when you do come to land they can just trot you down.

dreamy portal May 29, 2019, 3:30 PM

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also maybe not, like we lost one allo in the confrontation and i know for a fact they could outdo us since they have better bleed resist and damage than we have

vagrant crest May 29, 2019, 3:31 PM

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They also weigh more and have more hp.

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Sucho is fine as it stands.

dreamy portal May 29, 2019, 3:31 PM

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yeah i just think thats a safe enough defense.

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raptors can get on top of boxes, sucho's could sit in the middle of a lake

vagrant crest May 29, 2019, 3:31 PM

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No. Water suchos run into the water and get motorboated down by apex's.

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Future mechanics will help sucho for sure

dreamy portal May 29, 2019, 3:32 PM

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how would they get motorboated down?

vagrant crest May 29, 2019, 3:32 PM

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but as it stands, semi-aquatic gameplay is dumb

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When an apex ambushes into the water chasing after a sucho they are much faster.

dreamy portal May 29, 2019, 3:32 PM

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Sucho's got double swim speed though right?

vagrant crest May 29, 2019, 3:33 PM

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Or they can simply walk along the perimeter of the lake and wait for the sucho to come to land and kill it.

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it's swim speed means jack right now

dreamy portal May 29, 2019, 3:33 PM

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they can walk the perimiter but they can't get around an entire body of water faster than someone that crosses it

vagrant crest May 29, 2019, 3:33 PM

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They sure as shit can

dreamy portal May 29, 2019, 3:33 PM

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depends on the water

vagrant crest May 29, 2019, 3:33 PM

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Not really

dreamy portal May 29, 2019, 3:33 PM

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like if it's a pond then yeah

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you're mcfucked

vagrant crest May 29, 2019, 3:34 PM

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I've trotted down suchos at titan trying that

dreamy portal May 29, 2019, 3:34 PM

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dam river? not likely

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Thats just another addition of the survival

vagrant crest May 29, 2019, 3:34 PM

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There's a reason you don't see a lot of suchos

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They all try that

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and die

dreamy portal May 29, 2019, 3:35 PM

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then how would you fix them

vagrant crest May 29, 2019, 3:35 PM

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Like I said, semi-aquatic gameplay isn't viable until we get new mechanics.

dreamy portal May 29, 2019, 3:36 PM

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with whats currently had then.

vagrant crest May 29, 2019, 3:36 PM

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Land suchos are viable, but everyone just refuses to do that for whatever reason

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Play like a land sucho and keep your eyes peeled for apex's

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Boom. You have a viable sucho.

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Boom. You have a viable sucho.

dreamy portal May 29, 2019, 3:39 PM

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eh debatable but again it just needs somethin'

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as for the nursery thing I think just notating what dinosaur you have or if you have a dinosaur on a server would be helpful.

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unofficial servers are nice but forgetting or remembering if you have something active on there would be good

umbral prairie May 29, 2019, 4:01 PM

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@glossy tangle the bite force stat just shows the damage that dino deals per hit

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also the one shown is the headbutt attack, it has way less damage than the stomp

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plus it weighs a lot and therefore actually deals more than 250 damage to every playable carnivore

grand brook May 29, 2019, 4:08 PM

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@dreamy portal What about the dibbles and trikes chasing an allo group? What's the problem with it?

dreamy portal May 29, 2019, 4:15 PM

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it was in regards to trikes being able to mix pack

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where as other apexes have to stick to their own species

umbral prairie May 29, 2019, 4:16 PM

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what is so bad about them being able to mixpack

dreamy portal May 29, 2019, 4:16 PM

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rex has shit for stam and depending on the numbers is dead in the water

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nothing is bad.

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It's how they can balance.

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Trikes are strong, especially in numbers and they can team up with herbs without reprecussions

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i saw 7 allo's trying to take on 1 trike with assistance from a maia

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the trike eventually bled to death but another trike came to assist and the maia harassed any sitters

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maia and the trike died but only 1 allo made it out

paper oriole May 29, 2019, 4:19 PM

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Well trike is also the weakest and slowest apex on survoval anyway

dreamy portal May 29, 2019, 4:20 PM

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but it's got more stamina

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it's better at chasing down over long distances

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rex won't survive a pursuit

paper oriole May 29, 2019, 4:21 PM

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Rex face tanks that shit

dreamy portal May 29, 2019, 4:21 PM

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especially if it's bleeding, has a broken leg or is one way or the other. I've constnatly seen rexes get mowed down by trike groups

lilac swallow May 29, 2019, 4:21 PM

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Giga is way better at long distances

paper oriole May 29, 2019, 4:21 PM

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Ive literally stood in front of a hostile trike as a rex and bit it to death

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Its sad

dreamy portal May 29, 2019, 4:21 PM

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1 on 1 yeah you're gonna have trouble

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thats why most trikes aren't alone

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and as stated before most trikes aren't by themselves with just trikes

paper oriole May 29, 2019, 4:22 PM

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Of course they arent

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They are hardly viable to be alone when the other two apexes destroy it

dreamy portal May 29, 2019, 4:22 PM

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and thats why they get to mix pack with other herbs

paper oriole May 29, 2019, 4:23 PM

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Yep

lilac swallow May 29, 2019, 4:23 PM

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Balance around being forced to group is shit game design

paper oriole May 29, 2019, 4:23 PM

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It is

dreamy portal May 29, 2019, 4:23 PM

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lol what

lilac swallow May 29, 2019, 4:24 PM

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Its literally relying on other players to be playing at the same time

paper oriole May 29, 2019, 4:24 PM

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For something in apex tier thats just sad

umbral prairie May 29, 2019, 4:24 PM

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yeah apexes should be viable when solo

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but I'd be ok if things like utah are mainly designed to be played in packs

lilac swallow May 29, 2019, 4:25 PM

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Everyone should be viable solo, even utah and dilo currently are viable solo they are just harder

dreamy portal May 29, 2019, 4:25 PM

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Trikes are viable solo just not against rexes point blank

umbral prairie May 29, 2019, 4:25 PM

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but of course they should be able to survive solo as well

paper oriole May 29, 2019, 4:25 PM

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Or any giga who isnt utter trash

dreamy portal May 29, 2019, 4:25 PM

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even then i've heard the argument of "outplayed"

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trying to state that Teaming up in a game that encourages grouping and survival is a negative is a bit obtuse

paper oriole May 29, 2019, 4:27 PM

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Teamimg up isnt a negative but not being viable for your tier bracket in a solo encounter is

lilac swallow May 29, 2019, 4:27 PM

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Of course grouping should be encouraged, but not forced

paper oriole May 29, 2019, 4:27 PM

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^

dreamy portal May 29, 2019, 4:28 PM

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you're a little tank with high damage high bleed and high stam

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with a really good turn radius

lilac swallow May 29, 2019, 4:28 PM

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Even dilos can live solo, they just have to pick smaller prey

paper oriole May 29, 2019, 4:29 PM

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And shit speed, unable to opt out of a fight, gets face tanked by rex

umbral prairie May 29, 2019, 4:29 PM

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I think trike will get an indirect buff with locational damage and dino collision though, since it will probably be next to impossible to kill it from the front, and with dino collision you won't be able to run through it. Most dinos will probably need rebalanced stats because of these things though

dreamy portal May 29, 2019, 4:31 PM

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Besides it'll be when the spino comes out you'll have something to really worry about.

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since they'll have high health, high bleed resist

paper oriole May 29, 2019, 4:31 PM

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I certainly hope so, not holding my expectations high though lol

Also hope those horns can be used in a charge

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Ah yes another carni apex to pick on trike 👌 👌 👌

dreamy portal May 29, 2019, 4:32 PM

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it's almost like to survive you should team up with other trikes

paper oriole May 29, 2019, 4:32 PM

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Its almost like rexes and gigas team up too

dreamy portal May 29, 2019, 4:32 PM

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with their own species

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when stego comes out

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who do you think's gonna hang with the trikes

paper oriole May 29, 2019, 4:33 PM

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Thats when stego comes out

dreamy portal May 29, 2019, 4:33 PM

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yeah and that other apex carni that is gonna pick on trike is also "when it comes out"

umbral prairie May 29, 2019, 4:33 PM

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I don't know what to think about a charge tbh, I think just a short 'speed boost' or ram while sprinting would be enough (also some impaling when running without using the speed boost, just not as much damage because you are slower), not a button to load up a charge like in ark

paper oriole May 29, 2019, 4:34 PM

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Yea a ram is what i was thinking, would be nice to see things like trike dibble and pachy being able to do that

umbral prairie May 29, 2019, 4:43 PM

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I don't get what all of these exact stat suggestions are for though, they already have a new system for health,stam,bleed and bb finalized and locational damage, grabbing live prey and dino collision will make combat way different anyway and most things will have different stats

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and I don't see them changing the stats before the recode

paper oriole May 29, 2019, 4:46 PM

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Same, i dearly hope trike is made truly viable for its tier with the recode though

If they are powerful enough to stand up to the other apexes they wouldnt need to pad themselves with mid tier herdmates like dibble and maia

umbral prairie May 29, 2019, 4:47 PM

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yeah trikes should not be food for solo apexes, even a rex should only be able to kill one if it surprises the trike and gets multiple good hits in on the body or some hits on the neck

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and since ambushing rexes will be loud af

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it will be hard to get close to the trike without it noticing

dreamy portal May 29, 2019, 4:48 PM

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they pad with mid tier herbmates because dibbles break bones and are faster sprinters, they're attack dogs for trikes to gore

paper oriole May 29, 2019, 4:49 PM

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Would be perfectly fine personnaly if trike could only herd with eachother and low tiers (it is typically viewed as a sort of 'guardian' figure) and not mid tiers as long as it was viable

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Ok since when does dibble have bb

dreamy portal May 29, 2019, 4:52 PM

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just looked it up and saw that it was taken off

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noted.

paper oriole May 29, 2019, 4:52 PM

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Yea only rex has it atm

dreamy portal May 29, 2019, 4:52 PM

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surprised cerato doesn't have it

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even if it is a reduced percentage

paper oriole May 29, 2019, 4:53 PM

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Thats subject to change after recode tho

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At least

umbral prairie May 29, 2019, 4:53 PM

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the current bb system is stupid

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which is why I am happy nothing has it except rex

paper oriole May 29, 2019, 4:53 PM

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Yea lol locational is gonna be so nice, no more legbreak from a tail tip hit

dreamy portal May 29, 2019, 4:54 PM

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pack of dibbles suicide a giga

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chance of legbreak increased to a definite

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this is of course talking about the prior BB Dibble

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i can only remember the horror

umbral prairie May 29, 2019, 4:55 PM

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also hopefully better bb in general, not a chance to have your mobility get very limited instantly but instead multiple stages of bb, like with bleed. So some creatures do X amount of bb, and the more bb you have the more it affects your mobility

dreamy portal May 29, 2019, 4:55 PM

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I could see a fracture system to SNAP

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being a thing.

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where it's like a slow that eventually turns to a full on limp

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depending on how hard you run on it or otherwise

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though if that were the case it would have to go to the third level of extreme of, broken to the point of no movement at all.

dreamy portal May 29, 2019, 6:46 PM

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Fennec i got nothin to say to that suggestion

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as i don't really see the point

umbral prairie May 29, 2019, 6:47 PM

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Imagine all the servers that would use that for 'pay us so we boost your dino'

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I know this will probably take a long time, but I'd just wait for modding to make a return

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@void zodiac They are recoding almost the entire game right now, I'm sure they will try to fix many bugs with that

dreamy portal May 29, 2019, 6:52 PM

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yeah cause they need to fix the trikes hit box

umbral prairie May 29, 2019, 6:52 PM

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also most hypers except hyper carno were in development for multiple years and are still not finished, they were never a priority and are just a side project

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probably often being worked on if they finished what they wanted to do on that day

void zodiac May 29, 2019, 6:54 PM

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I agree with you, I'm sure they are working on the bugs with the rework but these, fucking, hypos, they have always jumped the gun with making then when there is currently no spot for them in the game. Eventually there will be but in this state, not anytime soon

dreamy portal May 29, 2019, 6:55 PM

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I kinda feel you on the hypo

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i get theyre a nice addition they're big neat and spectacle monsters

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but in the end they're glorified admin tools for now

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be they abused or otherwise.

void zodiac May 29, 2019, 6:56 PM

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^

dreamy portal May 29, 2019, 6:56 PM

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But still i much prefer playable content over visually appealing beasts.

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I know they have to be added one way or another and little progress shots here and there are great

void zodiac May 29, 2019, 6:56 PM

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^^^^^^

spiral pond May 29, 2019, 6:56 PM

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How are they admin tools if admins can’t access them

dreamy portal May 29, 2019, 6:57 PM

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but for a while there it was just kinda.. back to back

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fine then.

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DEVELOPER TOOLS

void zodiac May 29, 2019, 6:57 PM

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Dev tools lmao

spiral pond May 29, 2019, 6:57 PM

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Fair enough

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But I don’t think they are even working on them much right now

void zodiac May 29, 2019, 6:57 PM

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Dabs bc HYPOS

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Oh man they used to

spiral pond May 29, 2019, 6:57 PM

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Calm your horses

void zodiac May 29, 2019, 6:57 PM

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Gaps

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No you??...

dreamy portal May 29, 2019, 6:58 PM

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It was just a suggestion response.

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But i felt the same, at this point though they'r epretty much done with them and are moving onward