general-feedback-discussion

[white falcon]

I would like for it to not be a common thing, like a fully grown puerta would be

[sage helm]

I think they said you have to get a full adult and keep it for 12+ hours

[white falcon]

(If puertas get added)

[sage helm]

To get hypo

Then you get hypo and eventually starve

[blazing charm]

I have never heard that, ever.

[sage helm]

Oh?

My sources must be wrong 🤷

[blazing charm]

That sounds like the Progression Hypers.

Which was a terrible, terrible experiment.

[sage helm]

Ah

[umbral prairie]

I hope that hyper carno and hyper utah will be killable by apexes though, they should have an easy time killing the apexes first but a rex bite should damage a hyper utah quite a bit

[torn thistle]

It's been said time and again that herbivores won't be getting Strains at all.

[sage helm]

Thats kinda a bummer

[white falcon]

Should be a hard fight for a dibble. Even without alt turn dibbles destroy Utahs, so it should be a pretty even fight for dibbles if hypo utahs exist

[sage helm]

I would like to see them tbh

[sweet narwhal]

Uh hypos will have to worked for to get

[sage helm]

Hypo utah is going to be a monster

[white falcon]

How would there be “work” for them

[sweet narwhal]

The devs wouldn't just hand you server wipers

[umbral prairie]

you should not get hyper just by having a dino for a long time imo. I think time, good affinity, chance and maybe some sort of things on the map you need, not sure on the last one though

[torn thistle]

Currently it's unknown how people can become Strains.

for the most part

[blazing charm]

Assuming that they are supposed to be rare, chances are it'll be quiet difficult to obtain one.

[sweet narwhal]

If the devs just handed out strains for long play times the game wouldn't be fun because hypos would be everywhere. They're not gonna do it like that I'm sure

[umbral prairie]

yeah I just think those things should play a role in it

[torn thistle]

What Jaffad said

[sweet narwhal]

Yes bless jaff

[sage helm]

Maybe near perfect affinity like sammel said would be good

[umbral prairie]

I hope hypers won't be in sandbox

[blazing charm]

Like, it's not going to be like Progression where you just grow into one.

[white falcon]

Maybe once the stress mechanic gets added there’s a like “migratory need” and if that and a bunch of other stuff stays low enough on the stress level for a certain amount of time then they have a chance to grow into a hypo

So that way carnivores don’t just camp the same spot over and over again and have to move to different areas and water sources and such

[umbral prairie]

and maybe also not available to unofficial servers and their admins so they don't ruin the feel of seeing a hyper or do 'pay for hyper lives' , it should still be something special and rare

[white falcon]

Same for herbies but I’ve lost multiple near adults to camping

[blazing charm]

I mean, I 'd argue a better incentive to get carnivores to move is just prey population. Abitrarily making them move because "stress" seems like a poor idea.

[barren zephyr]

yup.

[white falcon]

There’s probably better ways to make them move. This is off the top of my head

[barren zephyr]

As a carni, if you actually need food (when servers are full AI doesn't spawn for shit) I can say 100% camp some water and you'll find some poor soul to kill

it's not fun for game necessarily....but nature and such

[sage helm]

Migrations shouldnt really be a thing for carnis imo

[umbral prairie]

AI needs to change and probably will

so your chances of getting AI are not higher if you stay at one place like it is now

[barren zephyr]

I'd like them to make herbis more interesting

and make sure its not just alt tab levels of easy to grow carnis

[white falcon]

Make herbies a bit better

[barren zephyr]

yea I suppose. I enjoy them though, it's just a different style of play

[sage helm]

Most herbis are at a good spot imo

[white falcon]

There’s no point to play them especially solo since herding is a necessity

[sage helm]

But i dont really play em much

[barren zephyr]

which is sorta unfortunate

I enjoy solo gameplay sometimes

[sage helm]

Herding is supposed to be a necessity

[white falcon]

Trike and dibble are in an all right spot but a lot of stuff you have to herd together to have a chance

[sage helm]

Cause they are herding dinos

[barren zephyr]

nice quiet time to do what I want without hearing people talk about Dinos all the damn time

I think dibble is good but has too good of stam regen

things a little ball of moderate speed and force lol

[white falcon]

Dibble is in a pretty good spot, especially since they have a significantly lower health pool than things like trikes

The only times I’ve destroyed rexes were when I was a dibble with a herd and it was a no combat alting server

[sage helm]

I feel like herbis either gotta be a slow tank or a fragile fast boi which is kinda hard to do without people complaining about it being too weak or too slow

[white falcon]

Trike’s are at a perfect spot- slow but really strong almost everywhere else

Dibble’s pretty good- might have some stat changes here or there

[umbral prairie]

trike is not great atm

[sage helm]

I feel like mia is at a nice spot

Why not?

[umbral prairie]

trike will be stronger wil locational damage though

[sage helm]

Yea

[umbral prairie]

both apexes can kill trikes easy atm, it should definitely be harder unless they ambush the trike from behind

[sage helm]

Yea

I feel like small tier dinos (with locational damage) should be the deal less damage but hinder your movement. Utah attacks the legs or tail and slows your movement or throws your balance

That type of stuff

Dangerous but not necessarily 100% deadly

Thats....gotta be a joke....right?

[umbral prairie]

cows are the way to stop hypers

definitely need cows

[sage helm]

Dude cows would be too op

[brisk mesa]

As an edit to my suggestion posted earlier, I increased the time spent as Subadult Trike up from 100min to 120min.

[barren zephyr]

@lament jolt the velociraptor can do that already, but its in sandbox

[thorny lynx]

I really don't think theropod bodies should be affected by IK as much as they should. The feet, sure, but I have never seen a bird's body, or even something on two legs, stand and walk at a 45 degree angle while walking up or down a slope. In fact, you usually try to sway your upper body in the opposite direction of the slope and tiptoe (hike? While you climb up and shuffle as you climb down.

I observed a bird walking down a roof and it kept its body almost completely straight as if it were walking on flat ground; only the feet were affected by the slope. It just feels weird when I want to walk up a slope at an angle slightly off from the direction of the slope and my dinosaur tilts in thr direction of the slope and sticks to it like suction cups on a window decoration. It does not feel natural.

It makes sense for quadruped dinosaurs to align their bodies to the slope since they balance and distribute their weight on all four legs, but theropod bodies should learn forward when walking up slopes and gry and keep their upper body and tails up while moving down slopes.

I mean, IK is nice. We don't have dinosaur tails slipping through mountains and feet going into the ground, but I would like it to look a bit more realistic. Right now, it looks like a child is playing with a t rex toy and hopping it up the mountain.

[umbral prairie]

so not this please

dinos shouldn't be able to walk up slopes that steep anyway tbh

[thorny lynx]

Quadruped dinosaurs, or theropod dinosaurs when they are moving on all four legs (para, taco, something that has an option to walk on two or 4 legs) should have an advantage while moving up steep inclines or declines since they have a lower center of gravity and have more legs to keep themselves balanced on the incline. If a trike wants to go mountain climbing to escape a rex, he very well should be able to.

[tall zinc]

Hey all, new to the discord, questions probably been asked I'm sure but have the devs mentioned anything new on the titanboa or the crocodile (can't remember the name)? I know they're working on switching things so I wouldn't expect them to add them anytime soon. Just curious, thanks for any input.

Also wasn't sure if this is where I should ask. If not, my apologies.

[next nexus]

titanaboa and deinosuchus have not been shown recently, but development has sort of become quiet due to the massive recode currently being worked on. Bryan is still streaming animation work, but apart from that we're all just waiting for the next big step forward

last we saw of croc boy at least was https://www.twitch.tv/thedondi/clip/HotApatheticBubbleteaPupper?filter=clips&range=all&sort=time

this clip was from January 5th this year

[neat flicker]

What Lemur said is on point, and this conversation belongs in the #401464048610312195 😉

[tall zinc]

Awesome! Thank you, love the game. So many dinos to choose from.

Thank you, I'll direct any other questions there. 😀

[blazing charm]

@barren zephyr If people didn't like it the first time, chances are they aren't going to like it the second time.

[edgy furnace]

^

id be pissed if only youtubers/devs whatever could use it that suggestion is just dumb

like why do you want it locked

[south flower]

^ That’s what I was thinking. Why suggest something that normal players will never have a chance to use?

[edgy furnace]

plus itd be a ton of money to implement something that no one would even be able to use

[blazing charm]

Seems it got deleted

[edgy furnace]

[sage helm]

What even was the suggestion

[edgy furnace]

make hypo dinosaur name i forgot thats only available to the devs

and the dinosaur wasnt in the game as a normal dinosaur even

[blazing charm]

Someone wanted a Hyperendocrine Carcharadontosaurus

[misty island]

I want a hypo dryo

[edgy furnace]

but hypos are built for combat

dryos are herbivores

[sage helm]

Oh

[wild pendant]

Hypo ALLOS let them be a thing

[pseudo falcon]

@brisk mesa I definetly think Utahraptor's total growth time is fine unchanged, Pachy's growth time being changed to 100 minutes seems a bit more reasonable as its about as strong as a Dilo and it outclasses Utah a smidge. I think at most Maia's growth time should be 120 minutes, as Maia is a lot of fun as it is, and isn't terribly unbalanced.

[brisk mesa]

I reduced it for Utah by 10 min lmao. As for why Pachy is reduced to match that Utah time and match the time of Galli...

Is because Pachycephalosaurus is outright an inferior Maiasaura in nearly every respect.

Furthermore, it handles bleed atrociously while not being super fast or agile.

It's certainly not on par with Dilophosaurus, a dinosaur that can scare the daylights out of a Carno, a Utah, hell even Ceratos solo... and when you get a pack they bring down Rexes.

I don't care how many Pachies you throw at a Trex it isn't dying lol

Maiasaura's increased growth time is to reflect the fact that it is a mid tier... not a small tier.

I did the same to Carnotaurus. Both are 150min investments.

This wouldn't make Maiasaura any less fun, if anything even more fun.

I slashed their time as a juvenile and made their time as a hatchling even shorter as well.

So you'd quickly reach an Adult Maiasaura.

[misty island]

Tbh Watt I can see u put a lot of effort into the thoughts but again I don’t think balancing is what we should suggest

[pseudo falcon]

I haven't read the whole document admittedly, I was just reflecting on my first look. If Maia progs with the same stats as it does as a current fresh adult Maia I suppose it would be ok.

[misty island]

We should focus on new ideas that would be cool ass or stuff we wanna see in game

Balancing is the devs job

[pseudo falcon]

True, but sometimes the devs have trouble figuring out balance aswell.

[misty island]

It’s feels like this is kinda out of the range of suggestions

It’s more like taking over the dev process

[pseudo falcon]

It is only a suggestion.

[misty island]

Mm maybe I got too sensitive about it

[brisk mesa]

Fragon, our input is valuable and I'm suggesting growth times.

[pseudo falcon]

😛

[mental sleet]

oof

[brisk mesa]

Hell I find suggesting content is far less relevant than suggesting things to improve the game.

[misty island]

I know

[brisk mesa]

i;e the million suggestions on shitting or adding playable wolves.

🤢

[pseudo falcon]

I am somewhat scared of a world where Maia is stuck at fresh adult stats for too long.

[brisk mesa]

Fresh adult Maia's actually one of the least atrocious fresh adults.

[pseudo falcon]

True, but nonetheless you're at close to half speed

Which is Maiasauras driving stat

[brisk mesa]

Still faster than the juvenile.

With more stamina and durability.

While also being able to breed :D

Your time spent growing a Maisaura is only 40min longer than current, enough to justify the awesome playable it is.

I'm sure you've heard the people screaming to nerf it Mynzelah, and I'd take an increased growth time over anyone messing with the perfect bae

especially when my nerf to growth time is a disguised buff due to the short ass hatchling phase and juvi phase

[edgy furnace]

upvoting own suggestion

@lament jolt alt turn

[misty island]

Lol walking backwards I can’t remember how many times I saw that in suggestions

[edgy furnace]

just alt turn

[misty island]

What

What do you mean

When ur too close to a cliff that u can’t alt turn

[mental sleet]

that just isn't a thing

[misty island]

@lament jolt do you care to explain how do you mean when u gave the example of “too close to a cliff that u can’t alt turn” I am genuinely confused

[lament jolt]

Well, I don’t know if it’s a bug or what, but my Alt turn does not always work.

[edgy furnace]

nvm they didnt delete it im blind lol

[lament jolt]

I edited it

And don’t be rude

[edgy furnace]

yeah confused me

[misty island]

U have to come to a complete halt before you can alt turn

If u are still in a walking animation

[lament jolt]

I do come to complete halt

[misty island]

U can’t alt turn

[lament jolt]

Can’t alt turn.

[misty island]

Then u should check the server that you are playing on

And see if they disabled it

[edgy furnace]

server probably doesnt have alt turn then

[lament jolt]

Okay. Didn’t know that was a thing. Still think walking backwards should be implemented though. Unless someone cares to share a reason why that would ruin the game?

[misty island]

No having it wouldn’t ruin the game. it’s just being discussed too many times people kinda came to a understanding that it is some what redundant

And doesn’t worth the time and effort to develop a new mechanic

When the devs are focusing on recoding

Which alone would take a couple of months to finish

And the option for disabling alt turn on custom/private server will soon be removed

So there’s that

[lament jolt]

Okay 👌

[misty island]

Now

How do yall think about a hypo dryo

Don’t talk to be about the lore rn I honestly don’t care

I want my hypo dryo

[mental sleet]

mod it in

[misty island]

Butbut then it’s not the same QAQ

[white falcon]

Hypo dryo would eliminate any need to play anything else imo

[glass blaze]

My life would be complete if a Hypo Dryo made it in, even if it was a mod.

[coarse shell]

@ancient portal bright colors from the main body were removed because people used them to look like paint buckets were dropped on them

it's a good idea on paper but the community handles stuff like that shittily

most birds aren't really that vibrant irl anyway

besides birds of paradise

but the only 'bird of paradise' i can count in this game is dilo

it'd fit for bright colors

[ancient portal]

Yeah that’s fair enough, maybe instead of bright oranges and reds deeper greens maybe?

Or maybe if they limit where the colours could be? So maybe the underside could be colourful? Or orange stripes like a tiger?

[ocean vortex]

there are some pretty good tiger colours for some dinos

[violet magnet]

my fave giga skin i made had a red throat/belly

lookatitit'sbeautiful

i'd kinda like to have vibrant colors for throat/underbelly for some dinos, just more visually interesting imo

[ancient portal]

Yeah that looks really good

[coarse shell]

i think it'd be better for the throat tbh

[ancient portal]

I kinda miss the ability to put the giga 5 skin on the main body

Yeah that’s true

[violet magnet]

@dim zodiac .....say wha?

[rocky shale]

@dim zodiac lol learn to play Rex.

[dim zodiac]

i have made 12 maxxedadult rex i know

they can rush ia and you can t contest because they eat him before rex go on the ia for feed

[misty island]

Umm

What is an ia ?

I am noob please explain @dim zodiac

[dim zodiac]

ai sorry i m not english

[misty island]

Ohhhhh

Can you explain a bit more why u want the devs to buff stam on the Rex?

Isn’t it powerful enough already

When it touches anything it basically kills it

Why give it more higher chance of touching a thing ?

[jovial blade]

Fuck that

Imagine rex having enough stam to run you down all the time

That's when rex would be too op

Right now you can avoid rex and its weakness is the stam

[sage helm]

^

And they are supposed to be ambushers not flat ouy sprinter

[south flower]

Like jacob and Monkizu said. Rex is meant to be an ambush predator, meaning the strategy is most likely going to involve getting as close to your prey as possible before it realizing you’re there. Also, with such a bite force as well as the high likeliness of dishing out bone break, having it able to catch any other dino would make it too op.

[brisk mesa]

@violet magnet A long while back in the early skin system I made a fucking AWESOME Dilo skin, the underbelly being a dark red or orange looks fucking GORGEOUS and hella screams "im venemous dont touch"

[sage helm]

Um

1 is supposed to be a loud dominant cry to show u are there

2 is more of the mating call

3 is supposed to be threatening

4 is more go away

[calm crown]

4 is 'i'm going away'

[sage helm]

Oh yea

[violet magnet]

tie a mating call to 5 and listen to the spam it results in

[sage helm]

^

[violet magnet]

just constant background noise: "WHO WAN SUM FUK??"

[sage helm]

What would that even sound like lol

[violet magnet]

like this probs
https://youtu.be/2TJaNDBI87s?t=45

[next nexus]

mating call is so pointless, and your interpretations of what the calls mean atm is very muddled @lethal saddle

"oh look someone mating called, but its basically the same as a broadcast except i can use it to lure in furry roleplayers and kill them"

its almost like the roars can be used as general messages, and more complex communications can be conveyed without confusion via the chat box

hmmmm

[brisk mesa]

HMMMMMMMMM it's almost as if the game is not meant for roleplayers on official servers because nowhere on the steam store page is there mention of simulation.

Also realize how even more impractical a mating call would be over a broadcast. It's not just announcing that you are of X animal located in that direction, which allows predators to come in, but also indicates your alone, single and looking to mingle.

So while a lone Dilo broadcast could still have the reasonable fear of it being a dozen of them, a single scream out of "fuck me" would just get you hunted down and killed even more frequently.

You'd be asking the devs to make a call for every single adult animal in Survival, + the 3 subs, so that's 18 new calls...

How about you just use what you have at your disposal instead of begging to add more work to dinosauriac's table?

[blazing charm]

@haughty cliff That would create so many cringey OC names.

I do not wish to live a in a world where I can encounter "Dark-Claw" by random chance

[haughty cliff]

You say that as if most steam names aren't that bad, and cringy is def. a matter of opinion lol

[blazing charm]

Oh of course, don't get me wrong. But that'd just increase the number of them

Also it kinda makes it hassle to avoid certain players, since there are a few I avoid like the actual plague

[haughty cliff]

Me, too, but that's also kinda why. I personally don't like using my Steam name, I like to keep it separate and don't like being forced to keep it for use, I hate getting random Steam invites and people knowing who I am, and I can't be the only one there. I'd love to see it kept "new per life" as the game seems to be designed for

In fairness half of that would be solved by just having a separate Isle username but I think naming dinos would be neat!

[lone pagoda]

The mating call could be heard louder by the same species perhaps?

[brisk mesa]

King raises a good point.

I've killed players based on finding out their name, knowing from prior experience they were toxic.

[haughty cliff]

I've wanted some big plains for a long time @uneven epoch ! great for galli in particular, so hard to find any open players

[brisk mesa]

Likewise knowing someone is a friend could give you reason to spare them; I was once in a 5 man subrex pack and we encountered adult Rexes

They knew one member of our pack, and spared us.

If someone toxic could masquerade their name than that would create problems for anyone knowing "hey this is a dipshit"

Also, it could lead to an imposter slandering your reputation.

[haughty cliff]

How about adding, then, a "mark player" function so all their names, nicknames etc are red to you?

[brisk mesa]

I know I'd be pretty fucking upset if someone waltzed around as Why Watt and pulled scummy crap.

Or how about don't add a function that would require functions to make it less toxic

If you wanna roleplay while playing the Isle open your steam and change your name.

Be my guest.

[haughty cliff]

It's about anonymity more than "roleplay"

[brisk mesa]

It does not get more anonymous on steam than that.

[haughty cliff]

People shouldn't have to change their steam names to be anonymous on steam games, though

if we had Isle-unique nicknames even that'd be fine

It still means you get random invites and people know your name, unless you change it EVERY time you play

[brisk mesa]

Why do you worry so much about anonymity?

You'd still get random invites with a nickname.

You are making a mountain out of a molehill.

[haughty cliff]

I prefer keeping all my IDs, games etc separate--and not necessarily, not if they have no way of knowing your Steam name.

[brisk mesa]

Set your profile to private

[haughty cliff]

Steam or Isle? What does that do, I haven't heard of it

[brisk mesa]

Steam.

You are asking game devs to make changes when Steam offers you the tools to do so yourself.

[haughty cliff]

Does that change all the other Steam stuff I have going, then? Mod publications etc?

[brisk mesa]

That I do not know. Search it up yourself.

[haughty cliff]

Well, I have the suggestion up and I still think it's a good one, my opinion remains unchanged personally! It's there if ppl like it, I do. I hate the current system 😃

[brisk mesa]

I'm curious as to why you hate it tho.

You'd still show up in the players menu, the TAB function.

Even if you disguise yourself via a nickname, players could send group or nest invites.

[haughty cliff]

No, your nick would, that's kind of the point of the suggestion--the nick would replace the steam name (but not ID) for chat purposes

[brisk mesa]

That makes literally no difference.

You'd still show up in the list.

Thus players could send you invites.

[haughty cliff]

I don't think you get it, but that's okay! Afk.

[uneven epoch]

@haughty cliff yes just for herbivore herds and such even car nis would like the plains it would just add a lot to the game where you could actually have valleys at the basses of mountain ranges I know about Party Plains being kinda a plain but to me it's just not big enough

[candid haven]

Someone suggested to make a four legged terrestrial carni- there aren't really any known quadrapedal dino's out there other than a spino- which walked both bipedally and quadrapedally, this being because it was so top heavy (According to research I have read at least) that it couldn't stay on its hind legs all the time. Add to that it was a mostly water based dino and only travelled on land to different water sources. There were rumors the spino remodel will have that walk but again we won't know till we see it

[unborn quail]

Quadrupedal spino has been unconfirmed for years now, No theropod at current knowledge was a quadruped nor ever could be due thow their wrists were fused, they would literally snap under the weight. But, continuation of this topic is better suited for #paleotalk

Any rumors upon the new spino are also hard to follow, as the only definitive thing we know is that A: It won't be the aquatic version. B: It's going to be a 'super predator'

[umbral prairie]

I hope that the new spino will get both claw and bite attacks

[unborn quail]

Every animal with usable arms have been said to get some sort of use for them

[spiral pond]

can galli use its arms to hug juvies ?

[leaden night]

@unborn quail With usable looking arms*

[unborn quail]

Accurate

[limpid dove]

@leaden trellis no, its balanced that it eats so slow. with its mouth it kind of would have a hard time eating in the first place, plus its quick drinking makes up for it's slow eating

its pretty balanced as it is.

[spiral pond]

I see there is some constructive suggestion that clearly explains what should change and explains the problem and definetly isnt result of dying to something.

[edgy furnace]

just a salty guy who died nice

got deleted though

[sacred wyvern]

mico rapper is good

should be in

o3o

[rocky shale]

I would wanna see the kapro, a speedy carni that can swim!

[spiral pond]

micro raptor would be super cool

but maybe too smol

[still temple]

Kaprosuchus, a literal croc
omg guys I want the midget "croc like dino"

[rocky shale]

@barren zephyr dondi said they would have to recode everything, like more then they already are, to get to that level of growths.

[sacred wyvern]

but it be so cool

gliding around

then getting ate by a ptera mid glide

[still temple]

yeah and he's also smaller than a Psittacosaurus

[sacred wyvern]

annd

o3o

tacos cant fight back

invade dem burrows

[rocky shale]

Scavenger for life lol

[still temple]

not worth spending $5000 + just to add a scavenger imo

[rocky shale]

Agreed

[still temple]

*scavenger that can do absolutely nothing to other creatures and doesnt impact the game at all

[rocky shale]

Good suggestions, not worth it

[still temple]

not rly

good creature suggestions should include why a creature should justify being added to the game, how it will impact the ecosystem, it's niche / gimmick, etc

not just dumping out a whole list of "my favourite dinosaurs" and calling it a day

[rocky shale]

@barren zephyr use carno as gangsters in a sedan. Hit and run.

[barren zephyr]

ye i know but even bleed is super low

[vestal rune]

I think carno is meant to be a damage based predator not a bleed based one

especially since it's meant to hunt small things

[barren zephyr]

sorry

[vestal rune]

also the whole speed multiplier thing

[unborn quail]

Carno bleed low

20 bleed

omegalul

[blazing charm]

Half of those creature suggestions are kinda redundant

[waxen elk]

Microraptor is pointless

[barren zephyr]

I was thinking what would happen if dinos (pachy,anky etc) could attack trees causing them to fall and having the leaves be edible. how well would that work?

@unborn quail sorry if the carno got a buff scince i last played it then i'm sorry

[blazing charm]

Only ones I have interest in are the Iguanodon and the Kapro. Kapro only because you could go with the long leg- hold on

[waxen elk]

Oviraptor is Velo size

[blazing charm]

NOVA

DIE

[unborn quail]

AHAHAH

[blazing charm]

Anyway, you could go with the long legged depiction.

[waxen elk]

Also

for the 1000th time

Those aquatic animals you mentioned

Are not dinosaurs

[unborn quail]

Nor are they aquatic

[waxen elk]

Neither are "fly dinosaurs"

[unborn quail]

Aside from Elasmo

[waxen elk]

Elasmosaurus is

Deinosuchus is not a dinosaur like fuck

[blazing charm]

Elasmo isn't a dinosaur, it's a marine reptile

[waxen elk]

i know

[barren zephyr]

dimorphodon was a (decently) close relative of the dinosaurs

also

[hasty parcel]

[blazing charm]

....What?

[unborn quail]

Wha-

[hasty parcel]

Excuse me

[barren zephyr]

mmoojin the hell are you smoking

[blazing charm]

Okay hang, please post your evidence for that in #paleotalk I am genuinely curious.

[hasty parcel]

[barren zephyr]

Dimorphodon isn't related to raptors

Simple as that

SORRY

i was think about something else

[hasty parcel]

[waxen elk]

Quetzacoatluz is related to Carnotaurus

Sea Scorpions are related to velociraptors

[sage helm]

And uh pteranodons are flying reptiles technically not dinosaurs so I see nothing wrong with the suggestion

[waxen elk]

haha yes

[unborn quail]

Pterosaurs split off from it and Dinosaurs common ancestor long before dromaeosaurids appeared

Was about to say

[blazing charm]

Anyway, back onto the topic at hand.

[waxen elk]

Dimorphodon is tiny

[blazing charm]

Oviraptor, I honestly can't think of anything for Ovi

[waxen elk]

Except being omnivorous

[blazing charm]

Well, apart from the whole "egg thief" thing.

[mental sleet]

egg thief isn't worthy enough of an entire playable

nests are situational.

[barren zephyr]

as a HUGE side-note |what would happen if dinos (pachy,anky etc) could attack trees causing them to fall and having the leaves be edible. how well would that work? |

don't gimme hate pls

@waxen elk

[unborn quail]

Quietly scrolls through Jaffad documents

Sorry, that one's taken

[hasty parcel]

I saw the updates you did fir your document list jaffad

im excited

[mental sleet]

that one is more feasible, except rather than leaves you have fruits.

[unborn quail]

^

[barren zephyr]

I think the the worst part of the suggestion was the fact that they didn't even specify why these prehistoric animals should be playable.

[mental sleet]

wrote something like that with wattington some time ago

[blazing charm]

I don't see anything wrong with a creature that can get some extra benefits from nesting raiding.

[mental sleet]

I do when that's all it has going for it

[barren zephyr]

imma go back to the server i was on, it was restarting cya all

[blazing charm]

Well yeah, that's kinda unviable.

Actually, shit did I do that for my one?

[sage helm]

The thing is with ovi people would get mad if tou killed them for food kinda like how carnis always get told go eat ai

[still temple]

Kapro would be cool if he wasnt so small (long leg kapro is not the solution bois, fite me)

[blazing charm]

How come?

[still temple]

might as well add rauisuchians if you want a long leg croc

[unborn quail]

Yes please

[hasty parcel]

Both :3

[unborn quail]

No

[mental sleet]

waste.

[blazing charm]

Fair point.

Well, here's an idea if the long legged depiction doesn't work.

[unborn quail]

[blazing charm]

Apart from the possible mechanic of ambushing from the water, onto land and either ramming prey or just lunging at them. What if Kapro had a similar thing with Deino, where it can grow beyond its average size?

[still temple]

I wouldn't mind seeing more dedicated semi-aquatics tho not gonna lie. Kapro would be a nice low tier. TI could even upsize him to ~5m maybe

[mental sleet]

What would that lead to jaffad ?

[jovial blade]

If it keeps growing then it's not a low tier

[still temple]

I guess incentivise ppl to keep grinding their croc until it's op

[mental sleet]

I'm not sure on that mechanic to begin with.

[still temple]

would rather deino be the only one with that ability tho

[jovial blade]

Yep

[still temple]

personally not a fan of "legendary deino" as well

like 2.0 is the absolute limit for me

[mental sleet]

I think its a unique idea.

[still temple]

any bigger, you might as well adda hypo deino

[waxen elk]

It is yeah

Except

[jovial blade]

I much rather add in a rauisuchian

[waxen elk]

30 meter deinosuchus

[jovial blade]

They will hunt on land

[waxen elk]

God knows how big will Legendary Deino be

[jovial blade]

While deino camps water

[mental sleet]

deino, iirc, will be as big as you can sustain it.

I can smell the abuse coming a mile away

[still temple]

rauisuchians are neat, but you gotta find a really good reason for them to be added.

[waxen elk]

mfw kaijusuchus

1 min hungertime

[unborn quail]

Well if it's any consolation, Last time we saw legendary deino, it was Either bigger or the same size as hyper spino

[waxen elk]

It was significantly bigger iirc

[jovial blade]

If we have a diablo then I dont see why we cant have it @still temple

[mental sleet]

Also depends on how long they decide to make it.

diablo was already modeled.

won't cost several thousands more.

[still temple]

but diablo's model and anims were already made before hand. Rauisuchians would basically be 100% new, which = expensive

[jovial blade]

They still made it though

[blazing charm]

Ngl, kinda missed the whole comparison with Raiasuchians and Kapro, might need to think this over.

[mental sleet]

they made diablo a long, long, LONG time ago

[jovial blade]

King

[still temple]

and Pachyrhino should've been in Survival instead of diablo, so much for not adding redundant creatures to survival mode

[mental sleet]

it was added specifically as rex chowder

[waxen elk]

ouch

[mental sleet]

well I disagree with diablo on survival unless dondi surprises us.

[jovial blade]

Raiasuchians could be mid tier and they dont keep growing like deino

[waxen elk]

Seriously

Stop

Let Deino have the legendary size and that's it

[mental sleet]

that's

zesk, re-read what he wrote.

[waxen elk]

I must be misunderstanding

[mental sleet]

he said ''and they don't keep growing like deino''

[blazing charm]

Well, true but they kinda need something more than that.

[waxen elk]

Misinterpreted

[still temple]

i just want a small swimmer

[mental sleet]

xD

[blazing charm]

Plus, now that I think about it. I think Kapro may be a bad idea in terms of survival for the small creatures.

[waxen elk]

Austroraptor

xd

inb4 someone goes in for "Boneless water ootha"

[mental sleet]

what about a Nothosaurus, flaffy ?

[waxen elk]

Or better

"Small Sucho"

[mental sleet]

it would be what you want, just of a more passive gameplay style.

[unborn quail]

Small sucho is Bary's title

You stop that

[waxen elk]

huh

But Nova!

I THOUGH AUSTRO WAS SMALL SUCCO

BARYONXY SUPER ORIGINAL

still

Bary >>>>>>>> Sucho

[unborn quail]

No

Stop

Cease and Assist

[waxen elk]

For yall that say "Austro is small Sucho"

Utah is small Allo

[still temple]

maybe kapro could be honey badger, durable hide, bleed doesnt work on him, can take a hit, and a rly good bite (cus long teeth or sth idk)

[waxen elk]

COUGH

[unborn quail]

Cerato

[waxen elk]

Ceratosaurus

[still temple]

Cerato is big gay

[waxen elk]

Cerato >>>>> Kapro

[sage helm]

^

[still temple]

still doesnt have bleed resist after the rework lmAo

[waxen elk]

Cerato is only shit because he has no bleed res

[sage helm]

What do you mean still

the reason it doesnt have bleed res is because its bleed res was too good

[waxen elk]

If i had to guess

[mental sleet]

its bleed resist is...

unreasonable.

[still temple]

@mental sleet and notho would be neat, but dunno how well he'll fair against TI's creatures

[waxen elk]

Part of me is expecting the worst and probably seeing Cerato getting no bleed res

[unborn quail]

It's bleed resistance wasn't too good, It was the bleed resistance stacked with a 4500 health pool

[mental sleet]

deino's restricted to waterways deep inside the island

needs large prey.

nothosaurus would be able to live in small ponds, shoreline.

[waxen elk]

I thought Cerato had like 0.1

[sage helm]

I feel like the devs are afraid if a ceratorex v2

[mental sleet]

fish.

[unborn quail]

It did

[waxen elk]

Now it has 2.0

[jovial blade]

Fasolasuchus can be basically a land crocodile so it wont have to depend on water and it could be mid low tier or even mid

[waxen elk]

mfw

Even if you have Cerato be pretty much null to bleed

Allos still facetank them

Suchos too

[sage helm]

well sucho can facetank an allo

[waxen elk]

Just Carnos, Utahs and Dilos don't fodderize them anymore

[jovial blade]

Cerato lowkey sucks

[unborn quail]

ALlo and Sucho are supposed to be capable of doing that, So no point dragging them in

[waxen elk]

Again

Cerato sucks because he lacks his resistance to survive attacks and shit

[mental sleet]

flaffy did a batman and vanished

[waxen elk]

Which is easily fixed by giving it healing and bleed res

[blazing charm]

Man I am really hung up about Kapro now

[jovial blade]

Why kapro

[blazing charm]

I was kinda banking on the long legged thing, or the whole water-to land ambushing thing.

I'unno, cause we were talking about it earlier.

[jovial blade]

It will just camp water for ages untill something it can actually eat

[mental sleet]

so will deino

at least big deinos

[jovial blade]

Deino has a wide range if orey

Prey

Kapro is small

It will have to wait ages just for something small to come drink

[still temple]

o and kapro has a rly bulbous snout, maybe it can ram stuff with it

[jovial blade]

Where as Fasolasuchus looks for its prey on land

[blazing charm]

I mean, with Kapro you also have the option of galloping onto land, basically I was thinking a semi aquatic version of Carno.

But then I realised it would be even harder to survive as either a small creature if there's a risk of a Kapro coming full speed out of the water and ramming into you like an American Football playaer

[still temple]

Fasolasuchus would also have to compete with the likes of Allosaurus, Ceratosaurus, Suchomimus and all the apexes

[jovial blade]

Yep

[mental sleet]

oh flaffy's back

[still temple]

and I dont think rauisuchians were the fastest boys in town, nor the heaviest (<- in TI's world)

[mental sleet]

you can take... artistic liberties

it is a video game afterall.

[jovial blade]

Still think it would be unique having a crocodile like dinosaur who hunts in land

Rather then adding a small deino that waits in water

[mental sleet]

unique, sure, but what to do with it.

[still temple]

size

[ocean vortex]

@winged elk Quetz isnt a dino

Screech

[jovial blade]

That is a real honey badger lol

Looks like it packs quiet a bite

[still temple]

even cerato could give him a run for his money

[blazing charm]

I think uh, for the Raia thing I did. I kinda mentioned them having some kind of armor, the big ones having an ability to thrash small creatures about

uh what else.

[unborn quail]

Cerato as far as we can tell, was designed to penetrate the likes of shelled/armored prey items (early turtles and crocodilian cousins)

It could very well make a meal out of that

even in-game

Size would have to be greatly exegerated to avoid it just being nothing but a Cerato clone, but quadrupedal

[blazing charm]

We don't know if Isle's Cerato will do that or not

[blazing charm]

Plus I think there is some different when the thing you are biting into can move much better on land than the usual crocodile or turtle.

[jovial blade]

This would have a good bleed

It would be 3 tonnes as adult

So the weight would add to its bite

Whilst it would be a good bleeder

Also nice if it has extra speed in water

So it can use the water to get to prey

[unborn quail]

For one, we have no idea if the current way damage will carry over to the new combat

[still temple]

one does not simply upsize Fasola that much

[unborn quail]

Two. Even at that point, it'd still be fodder for Allo and Sucho

[jovial blade]

Flallfy

That's the jaw

next to human head

[ocean vortex]

Three.

[still temple]

no ur 3 tonnes

[ocean vortex]

99% of creature suggestions

[jovial blade]

Idk I typed I'm its weight

[ocean vortex]

Dont get in the game

[jovial blade]

Multiple sources

Is saying 3 tonnes

[still temple]

send link pls

nvm I assume you just copied off dinopedia

[jovial blade]

Also reddit

[blazing charm]

You say 99% of the creature suggestions don't get in, what would be the other 1% then? @ocean vortex

[still temple]

very reliable yes

[ocean vortex]

Tarbosawwus

[blazing charm]

Why did I think you were going to say something meaningful.

[ocean vortex]

What about the other 99% then?

Terror birds

Woolly rhinos

[hasty parcel]

[ocean vortex]

Some weird suggestions

[jovial blade]

Has a player dino suggestion even made it in game lol

[ocean vortex]

Yes

Tarbosawwus

[mental sleet]

??

[jovial blade]

What dino

[mental sleet]

no

[ocean vortex]

OR

It could be a prank but...

It was in the files.

[hasty parcel]

Tarbo was a prank

[jovial blade]

So none?

[ocean vortex]

<_<

[mental sleet]

none.

[hasty parcel]

For now

[jovial blade]

I just like to talk about what would be a nice addition to the game I wont bother suggesting it when it comes to dinos

I dont even feel like they look at suggestions at this point

[mental sleet]

all we know is that the devs read suggestions and hopefully google docs

[candid haven]

I dunno if I remember it right but Dondi was on a stream with a pretty well known streamer and pretty sure he said he will make the game how he wants. We are more along for the ride than anything lol It'd be lucky if any of our suggestions are put to use

[ocean vortex]

I want a playable titan

:)

[blazing charm]

I mean, by all means the development team is and should be in control of their game. But the suggestion channel is still here, in the event that people have ideas that are deemed worth pursueing.

[ocean vortex]

Well

There is one thing the devs brought back by fan demand

[mental sleet]

oh ?

[ocean vortex]

Two things***

Sandbox

And playable flyers

[mental sleet]

playable flyers were never removed ?

[jovial blade]

They're getting rid of sandbox arent they

[blazing charm]

Playable flyers was more so because they've supposoedly found some kind of solution for them.

[mental sleet]

sandbox was always going to be a thing.

[ocean vortex]

Hmmmm

[blazing charm]

And correct me if I am wrong, but Sandbox is going to be made into a mod.

[mental sleet]

that was the plan.

[blazing charm]

Again, please correct me if I am wrong.

[mental sleet]

at least a few months ago last we have heard of it

[ocean vortex]

Good

I dont like seeing players in TI type gg

[mental sleet]

what

[candid haven]

Pretty sure you're right jaffad

[sage helm]

Flyers were removed

[jovial blade]

Huh

[sage helm]

the quetz was in

but it was too buggy

[mental sleet]

the quetz as a playable yes, but not the concept of flyers

[ocean vortex]

And then people hated flyers for a year for some reason

[sage helm]

What?

[ocean vortex]

Saying they ruined the game

[candid haven]

Flyers haven't been in the game, only times it was was like random occurences they allowed us to test it

[ocean vortex]

But now everyone is suddenly liking flyers again

[mental sleet]

people change.

[candid haven]

Flyers used to crash servers

[ocean vortex]

People are weird

[mental sleet]

I haven't seen most of the people I knew from before playing the isle.

[jovial blade]

Many didnt get to play flyer

Many are new

[candid haven]

True

I have a couple pics from being a flyer- when it was on the servers for like 3 hours and then removed due to it's bugginess

[jovial blade]

You have to think of new gen of players

Not the old omes

Ones

[mental sleet]

...

thanks

[candid haven]

I don't think any new players have experienced flyers

[jovial blade]

Yep

[still temple]

tapejarids wen

[steady cosmos]

no flaffy

pls no

[ocean vortex]

Theyre gonna crash land into the ground

[jovial blade]

But there has been devs playing quetz

Recently

[ocean vortex]

On their first attempt

[still temple]

explain Mid

[candid haven]

That was their issue- crash landing happened all the time

then would crash servers cause it was so buggy- was beautiful but buggy

[steady cosmos]

Literally useless

[ocean vortex]

CRASH landing

[steady cosmos]

thats why

[ocean vortex]

HuehuehueHUEHUEHUE

[still temple]

looks cool tho

[ocean vortex]

I have a feeling that ptera wont fly like flying used to be before

[candid haven]

Oh god I hope not XD

Was cancer flying

[ocean vortex]

Something about its animations makes the incoming flight look dynamic

[candid haven]

I hope it has a dive and water skim

[ocean vortex]

Also thank god they didnt use the old pteranodon model

I was SCARED they were gonna use it

[steady cosmos]

water skim?

[ocean vortex]

Becasuse it was HORRIBLE

No pteras cannot water skim

Sorry

Got debunked

[candid haven]

Like how some birds drink water by skimming over it, or pelicans when fishing

[ocean vortex]

They cannot skim

[sage helm]

I feel like that would break their neck

lol

[steady cosmos]

it would jacob

[ocean vortex]

They have to completely dive into the water to catch fish

Pteras swim

Like puffins

[steady cosmos]

if they were flying fast enough to sustain themselves in air while doing it

[mental sleet]

give me your time machine

[steady cosmos]

bird shit multi

same things with planes

[ocean vortex]

Give me YOUR time machine

MISTER

[steady cosmos]

common sense

[mental sleet]

''common sense''

[steady cosmos]

aerodynamics

stuff like that

things you can calculate

fek off with that

now why dont you give me your time machine to tell me my speculation is wrong?

id like to see that happen

[ocean vortex]

Reason why Ptera is MOST likely a diving pterosaur is because thats literally the only option it has

Skimming will break its neck

[sage helm]

im sorry but you cant use the argument "give me a time machine" if you dont have one yourself :/

[ocean vortex]

Yes.

True.

[mental sleet]

[ocean vortex]

I wanted someone to say that

[mental sleet]

you can't say ''they did X'' without a fucking time machine.

[sage helm]

Or show me your time machine

[mental sleet]

that's about it.

[steady cosmos]

Ok lemme just add "probably"

[sage helm]

Well then why are you saying they are wrong lol

[steady cosmos]

gotta be picky about your sentinces here

[still temple]

iirc only rhamphorynchids had adaptations for skimming

[mental sleet]

I never did, jacob ?

[candid haven]

Ahh

[ocean vortex]

Yep

[candid haven]

Thank you flaffy ^-^

[ocean vortex]

Pteranodons are really weird in real life

I dont think people would recognize it at first...

Like, sure

We all know what a pteranodon looks like

But that may only be knowledge thats scratched the surface

The fact that pycnofibers are feathers brings some rather interesting thoughts

Possible peacock pterosaur, anyone?

Kinda a shame the TI ptera doesnt have any covering

Even just a little bit

Im not a feather-dino connesiour guy or anything but I havent seen a ptera with pycnos in a long, long time....

Years in fact

People just... prefer... naked ptera

Welp im off.

[sacred wyvern]

carno doesnt need a buff in dmg and bleed

it just needs a faster bite animation

[sage helm]

Yea that would be nice

[uneven epoch]

Carno needs to look buffer bigger head more muscle higher attack make it like sub rex size but with the same speed

[umbral prairie]

it's model is fine imo

[uneven epoch]

it just looks weak

[umbral prairie]

afaik the niche it is supposed to fill in game is to mostly prey on smaller things

[uneven epoch]

yeah but is that its real size??

[umbral prairie]

idk, but the game is not trying to be 100%accurate

[uneven epoch]

yeah but it seriously needs to be a little tuffer

and just better looking

it looks flimsy

even cerato looks better for its size

it doesnt need to be like a freaking apex but to me it needs to have some size and such changed

[umbral prairie]

carno's head is very thin

so is most of it's body afaik

I mean you can have a different opinion on how carno looks cool

but I think it is fine how it is, if it was buffer it wouldn't look like the fast boi it is imo

[jovial blade]

They got it right allready

@uneven epoch

Maybe you think its smaller because you're use to playing bigger things?

When humans are put in game you will see how big dinosaurs are

[oak shale]

Dryo is the size of a lion or some shit

In general people call it a small dinosaur

But it’s actually massive

[uneven epoch]

oh ok

yeah i thought it was really pretty small lol

[umbral prairie]

idk how accurate this is and I think TI's galli is a bit smaller, but look how big gallis are

[uneven epoch]

yeah ok

[leaden night]

Preshistoric wildlife yikes

[uneven epoch]

i was thinking it was only like 6 feet tall

lol

[uneven epoch]

and i do normaly play mid teir dinos

gosh

lol

[umbral prairie]

yeah that looks better, I always just type in [insert dinosaur] size and use the first chart I find

[uneven epoch]

yeah ok

ty

lol

[jovial blade]

Humans will be ants lol

Ants with rifles tho

[umbral prairie]

most will be ants with 9mm guns before they die to utahs

if they get their asses off of the rocks

[uneven epoch]

lol

my question though is how much damage would a 9mm even do to a mid to high teir dino lol

[next nexus]

depends where it hits

[uneven epoch]

yeah

but still like

[umbral prairie]

a shot in the eye would do quite some damage but that is not easy to hit

[uneven epoch]

yeah

true

but what are the chances that you will even be able to land that

like

if its sitting still sure

but running at you or around you

[umbral prairie]

either massive luck or the thing is sitting down or in ambush position so you can aim properly

[uneven epoch]

yeah

killing stuff like a gali wouldnt be hard cause you could easily hit a lung or heart but a rex?

is it even gonna hurt it

lol

[barren zephyr]

Rexes will be easy to kill

Fat bastards

[uneven epoch]

yeah with a 50 cal gattling gun maybe lol

[umbral prairie]

some people say humans will be OP but I don't think so, I mean the small weapons won't do much against mid tiers and above and the small tiers are fast so they're hard to hit even with the smaller guns, and the heavier the weapons get the rarer they and their ammo will be, the harder it will be to carry them around, you will be even more vulnerable to low tiers with them and they will be loud as hell

[uneven epoch]

yeah

its gonna be pretty difficult

[sage helm]

There are gonna be different types of weapons

Smaller ones that are better suited to take out smaller dinos

and larger less maneuverable that can take out apexes

Afaik at least

[umbral prairie]

I mean, a group of humans with some light and some heavier weapons could be dangerous but still quite easy to take out if you get em by surprise

[uneven epoch]

Afaik is?

[sage helm]

as far as I know

[next nexus]

its going to make people change their playstyles on different creatures, big dinosaurs will no longer be the best since they should suck vs humans with firearms and will actually have to be careful when moving in the open etc

[umbral prairie]

what reason do mercs have to shoot a rex if it is not running at them

[next nexus]

for fun

pvp survival games, if people can they will

[umbral prairie]

if the weapon is big enough to kill it it's sound will lure in smaller predators

[leaden night]

To kill the rex because it exists

[next nexus]

if i know for a fact i'm going to ruin someones 7 hours of work then hell yeah i'm going to try and do it

[sage helm]

Lol

So that the rex wont kill you in the future

[next nexus]

hey you squint but people will play like this

its like why do people gun down nakeds on rust?

because they can

[umbral prairie]

I hope that the average server population will change in the future. Of course more players for V3, but also what these players play as. I think apex growth needs to be way harder, but also not terrible and boring and repetitive as hell so it is still someho enjoyable, so seeing a full adult apex would be very rare. also a huge increase in herbis would be cool, idk what would make them better to play though tbh. and with less apexes there will be more smaller dinos, making the population (hopefully) more diverse

[coarse shell]

@smoky lintel larger, longer legs

that's why

juv utah is fine where it is

[leaden night]

@smoky lintel Juv rex isn't a tiny midget and is built for running at high speeds

Now

Juv Utah is still an overly slow deformed nugget

[smoky lintel]

Still i'd like to see some speed buff... It is slower than most juvis that are that fast as adults so..

[lethal sparrow]

Maybe a shorter juv & adult stage with a reasonably quick subadult making up the difference inbetween would solve the problem?

[rocky shale]

@flat ridge you don’t need to make a counter suggestion. That is what this channel is for.

[flat ridge]

I know lol

[paper oriole]

@south flower with birds and reptiles it's actually the males who are often smaller, while the males have larger horns/crests/feathers. I don't think size difference would be very good on stat balance though

[sage helm]

^

[misty island]

^

[leaden night]

@paper oriole The only birds that consistently have smaller males are birds of prey

And crocodillians have larger males

[south flower]

Even if dinosaurs are said to be most closely related to birds, I didn’t know if dinosaurs would also share the same gender differences. And as for size, I didn’t know if size affected stats, other than possibly weight; if they decided to do it anyway. 🤷

[sage helm]

@marsh yarrow uh

what?

why is that there lol

[candid haven]

only some bugs have a size different in genders, I don't think male or female dinos have that- at least they haven't pointed it out in any studies

[jovial blade]

They can't even determine the sex on dinosaurs

[hallow vigil]

idk about the kill animations for dinos, even if they make you invincible it still holds you in place, allowing any other opponents a free chance to do whatever while you're completely occupied (assuming the kill anim cant be interrupted)

[white torrent]

Mhm

I just don’t think they should I be a thing

Tbh

We will get something akin to a kill animation, whenever locational damage is in. A trex’s jaws clamping over a Maia’s, or.. para’s neck is sure to be somewhat like it in appearance

[jovial blade]

Kill animation would suck

Especially if you're trying to kill multiple dinos

Or you're in the middle of a pack fight

Not sure why so many people agreed to that suggestion

It has so many negatives

Only positive is it looks cool

And a bit realistic

[woven storm]

Well considering most servers that are not offical have a body down rule, an invincable kill animation that basically tells everyone that there is a body down would be good.

[jovial blade]

So it would only be good for some servers

Not good enough

Also it would look weird because if you kill them by a tail bite would the animation just switch to a neck kill

How would it work

[rotund tartan]

the kill animation would be fun .. BUT with some changes... for example.. like the "finish move on MK" .. the target is already dead or just can't fight anymore... but that would mean to add more animations and more stuff to the game so it can work as it should.

[sweet bramble]

Crit animations like in Skyrim

[misty island]

Or

When you down a Dino

It has like 20seconds being incapable of moving on the ground before it eventually dies

I mean nothing really dies instantly when suffering an injury that doesn’t involves explosions or high energy transfer

Even decapitation would give you 20seconds or so

And that’s when the fatalities animation comes in

You press a key on the victim on the ground

And u know have ur way with it

[blazing charm]

@barren zephyr Being invincible defeats the purpose of a Survival game, does it not?

[spiral pond]

maybe it could be useful for admins ?

[barren zephyr]

What do you mean Mod Admins are already useful

They don't need a command to make them invincible

[versed blaze]

Just bind the /heal command to a macro and poof, invincible

[barren zephyr]

@stoic crow How is that a good idea, the only reason i can think of for this suggestion is because you can't handle dying to a human

Also how do spells fit into this game about survival horror

@stoic crow I laugh in your face, that won't happen, i've made some dumb suggestions in my time but thats next lvl.

[stoic crow]

Why?

@barren zephyr No I dont want the game to get 1 of 100s of shooting games.

@barren zephyr Why?

[barren zephyr]

Elfs with dinosaurs

That's why

Also guns will be extremely rare as soon as humans are in so the chances of being killed by Merc is very low. But Tribals those are a diffrent story

[spiral pond]

yes i need my chrismas elfs

[normal fern]

Just saw that suggestion
WTF

[spiral pond]

working together with utahs/dilos/gaills to eliminate all humans

fuck the lore, lets just throw in magic staff that creates tsunami that can kill hypos

[barren zephyr]

Next up Dragons

[stoic crow]

@barren zephyr Dragons!!!
XD

@barren zephyr
Mmomojin thank you.

Now I have a good Idea add Omnivores to The Isle instead of humans!

[umbral prairie]

why instead

why not just add omnivores

[stoic crow]

Or humans in the omnivore “strain”.

[barren zephyr]

you, know nice image, not so nice ideas

[umbral prairie]

wdym strain

humans have tier own selection tab thing on the right of the screen

they don't need to be in an omnivore tab

[stoic crow]

Why not?

We are omnivores.
Expect of the vegetarians.

[umbral prairie]

they still have their own selection tab

it is already in game

[stoic crow]

But they could replace it.

[umbral prairie]

it is just broken so you can see that there will be humans but nit right now

but why

you have the dinos on the left

and humans on the right

[stoic crow]

But the omnivores (humans) are in the middle of both, that could mean that they can eat both. And its a suggestion not a theorie.

[barren zephyr]

no

just stop it

[stoic crow]

Why?

[wintry cipher]

1. humans will be in the game and only tribals will be able to eat dinosaur flesh it's assumed
2. "how can I survive without putting in any effort at all?" Is how an omnivore would play.

[barren zephyr]

because you are making suggestions that go against what is planned to happen

thats not how game devs do things, they don't go oh someone wanted to replace, REPLACE, humans with omnivores after its Very clear humans are going in the game

[normal fern]

And the suggestions you make just aren't very good

[stoic crow]

Not replace add it to the omnivore place.

[barren zephyr]

love how you just deleted you omnivore suggestion as well, saying to replace it 🤦

no that wouldn't make sense

we are decended from mammals

not reptiles like dinosaurs

[stoic crow]

But thats so or so the wrong time for humans what is then the problem to add them to reptiles🤣

[barren zephyr]

you're not seeing what i'm saying

can someone help me get him/her to understand

[indigo sun]

i'll try

[stoic crow]

Him

[barren zephyr]

i'm playing the game at the same time as doing this, so i'll be back

[stoic crow]

What ever, that was my suggestion you smashed it down.
But I think omnivores would be nice and if they add a button to de/activate humans for servers I would be pleased!

[barren zephyr]

my suggestion first m8

[indigo sun]

I'm pretty sure there will be an option to not have humans in your server. As for omnivores, we have to wait and see what they think about adding after what they're already doing

[stoic crow]

I understand what you mean.

[indigo sun]

that's not what i was typing the entire time, I just cut it to respond to the recent message

[barren zephyr]

and you deleted your suggestion about 'elf and whatnot'

[stoic crow]

@barren zephyr Yes, are you now fine, my suggestion isnt that good and yours is good.
Fine, you got me!

I made a new suggestion, is it better?

Are you now fine?

[indigo sun]

why did you react to your own suggestion? I'm not trying to be rude, just wondering

[stoic crow]

Cause I want that you only can click on it if you want to react this.

[barren zephyr]

no idc about ' mine is better' i want you to know
a) why they won't 'replace' humans and
b) how silly magic would be and
c)yes they probably will have a feature to de-active humans

[indigo sun]

People can react to your message on their own. You don't need to put down reactions for people to click on. And people can react with other than what you've put there

[stoic crow]

You write something, Nines, before I could add a cross!

I know but that goes eventually faster for them.

[indigo sun]

generally people see it as agreeing with your own suggestion.

or at least i do

[stoic crow]

Ok, thanks mmoojjn and Nines!

[next nexus]

Server options to allow/disable certain playable factions has been stated many times to be something planned for the future

official servers won't

but unofficials can eventually do what they want

don even said he would like to see human only playable servers and just have all dinosaurs in them be ai controlled

[jovial blade]

Lol did he want spell casting humans

[spiral pond]

yes he did

[sage helm]

I think there is a timer under the radar in the character sheet

I just write down my kill count lol

[abstract shuttle]

I mean, unofficial servers already can remove Dino’s from the selection screen

[south flower]

I mean, some servers have the ability to lock apexes or certain dinos, or so I think? I don’t know how that generally works, though. But maybe some servers would prefer to have dinosaur only players, depending on if they have a certain type of “world” their server revolves around. They could have the option to deactivate or activate human players, it just depends on servers outside of the official ones.

And trust me, I’ve seen much worse suggestions than that.

[umbral prairie]

I hope there will be dino only, dino-tribal, dino-merc and dino-tribal-merc servers

so that both human factions can be activated/deactivated individually

[south flower]

^^^

[umbral prairie]

idk why but I kind of dislike the idea of dino-tribal-merc servers, just seeing fur huts next to metal fences would be weird imo

[sage helm]

Yea

[jovial blade]

Lowkey wouldn't mind tribals in the mix though

They're surviving just like the dinos and dont have huge metal buildings and op rifles

[umbral prairie]

yeah I don't have anything against tribals, just tribals, mercs and dinos on the same server seems weird to me

[sage helm]

Yea

[glass blaze]

The tribals aren't even human, as I understand it. They're more engineered creatures shaped like humans.

[jovial blade]

Still function the same either way

I'm guessing they're a bit more tanky then the mercs and taller

[glass blaze]

And eventually become that thing everyone calls the cannibal.

[jovial blade]

that would actually be nice to have in game

[umbral prairie]

yeah I think tribals are stronger than mercs but have less advanced tools

[jovial blade]

Hmm how do they turn into a cannibal eating some one in their group?

[umbral prairie]

are they going to be 'cannibals' (the ones we don't know the real name of)

[mental sleet]

its not via cannibalism

[umbral prairie]

dondi called em cannibals so we assume they will be unlocked through cannibalism

[mental sleet]

dondi debunked that

[umbral prairie]

but it is something else

[jovial blade]

Aw that sucks

That would be interesting

[umbral prairie]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEFXKJPx35Q

[glass blaze]

That's why I said "the thing everyone calls a cannibal." Because we know it's not actually called that, but no one knows the real name yet.

[jovial blade]

Betraying your group to become a cannibal then you become a outcast

[sage helm]

But that would be abused

Cause arent cannibals supposed to be better

[jovial blade]

Hmm they look like orcs

Lol

So basically tribals are orc looking things

[sage helm]

thats kinda cool tbh

[jovial blade]

I wonder if you actually eat raw meat

Like dinos

[umbral prairie]

probably

[jovial blade]

Just kill something and you bend down or get on the floor and eat lol

[sage helm]

What if you kill by eating

so like

when you attack you bite and rip off flesh which you consume