general-feedback-discussion

[blazing charm]

I'm pretty sure any other prey item would be far more common than a Triceratops herd.

[minor basalt]

that's just how it is, but giga is a lot better at hunting than rex imo

[unborn quail]

Giga is also not meant to be fighting rex to begin with

[umbral prairie]

giga is good against everything but rex

giga should lose a clean 1v1 with a rex

[minor basalt]

making trike even more shit isn't a good thing

[umbral prairie]

but it should be able to bleed it out if it surprises it

[unborn quail]

Last thing giga needs is a damage buff, seeing as it already does 700. If anything it could use a damage nerf, seeing as its high damage makes the use of bleed null.

But that's a conversation for a different day

Too much controversy between the whole 'Giga should be able to fight rex 1v1' for proper insight and opinions to be given on the subject

[delicate depot]

It's a lot of disadvantage, you'll hunt for example a herd of stegosaurus, you bite 1 but it takes a hit. You are bound to lie down and he too, you know he will not take bleeding damage and you will only depend on the strength of the bite.

[blazing charm]

@lethal wren That sounds pretty overpowered and broken to me, also kinda ruins the tension of Night Vision being limited.

[unborn quail]

Stegosaurs isn't in survival, so it's balance with apexes really doesn't dictate if something needs a buff or not

[umbral prairie]

maybe give bigger dinos a slightly higher max bleed? because afaik 100 bleed does 100 bleed to every creature, so the bigger you are the longer you can bleed. Of course they have more blood, but an extra 50 (that get applied half has fast as the first hundred bleed) on top of the 100 bleed could maybe make hunting big dinos using bleed easier, but I'm not sure if it would work the way I think of it in my head

[unborn quail]

That or accept the fact that certain animals just aren't meant to hunt x creature, Giga will be a sauropod hunter, it's high bleed and planned gimmick attest to that.

It's end game role is not to be a trike hunting rex rival, It's that of a large game flesh grazer who has no actual reason/lacks the strengths to take a rex head on with our ambush or a pair

[lethal wren]

I didn't Finish my Suggestion yet. xD

[delicate depot]

So instead of Stegosaurus, I'll use another example, if a Giganotosaurus goes hunting a Trike without a group, and the Giganotosaurus bites, but it takes a blow too! The 2 are forced to lie down and the Giganotosaurus that Triceratops will not take bleeding damage, so the Giga depends a lot on the strength of the bite in such cases.

[umbral prairie]

I think having night vision be thermal vision aswell might be too strong

[lethal wren]

Maybe.

[unborn quail]

So don't hunt Trike alone

[delicate depot]

Giga knows*

[unborn quail]

Again, Not everything is meant to hunt x thing

Giga is fully capable of hunting other things that aren't trike or rex

[umbral prairie]

if the giga takes a hit, it is it's fault, you should get a surprise attack in if you want to bleed a trike

[unborn quail]

^

Or have numbers

[umbral prairie]

I hope with locational damage and dino collision trike will be almost impossible to kill from the front

[unborn quail]

Even rex Will need a Pair

[umbral prairie]

but more vulnerable if attacked from behind

or a good ambush

[delicate depot]

So if there's nothing else around, is Triceratops the only option? Giga does not have capacity.

[unborn quail]

Eat ai.

[delicate depot]

'-'

[unborn quail]

And find something else

Again, Not everything is meant to fight x thing

[delicate depot]

I still think that taking bleeding damage while lying should be back, but okay.

goodbye

[umbral prairie]

it should have a chance if certain conditions are met

why do you want dying after a won fight to return

[unborn quail]

So Basically make every fight with bleed guaranteed death for everything, Sounds fun

[umbral prairie]

little question: do you take no bleed damage at all when sitting or does it go down to 10% health and then stop

[paper oriole]

Ahh yet another carni mad that an herbivore doesnt just lay down and die for him

[unborn quail]

10% health @umbral prairie

[paper oriole]

As if trikes need more nerfs

[umbral prairie]

ok

trike needs locational

[unborn quail]

Everything needs locational

[umbral prairie]

yeah true

I also still hope for mechanics like grabbing and holding on to things, impaling etc to be a thing someday but I'm probably overestimating the possibilities

[civic sky]

Personally giga should be avoiding trike just like the rex. Not to say giga shouldn’t hunt them I’m sure you can catch one by surprise but you should never try to since you have way more prey items available

[unborn quail]

Biting and grappling is very much possible, a key example being Utahs old pounce, granted itnwas a very basic system.

[umbral prairie]

it should have a chance if it surprises the trike

but not in a 1v1

[civic sky]

That’s what I’m saying, as an ambush it should be able to catch anything really and the same can go for ambushes in general.

Wow phone...

[umbral prairie]

I think grabbing things might be harder because for example if you are a rex and ambush a para from the side, grab it's neck then you should not just stand there holding it but it should push the para back or onto the ground

with pounce you just land on the side, not affecting the creatures momentum much

but grabbing things affects both your and your prey's momentum depending on where you bite it, how fast both of you were and how big your size difference is

[jovial blade]

A giga can beat trike

Just play smatt

Smart

And bleed it out

So many people make the mistake of not letting it bleed out and they just trade blows with dinos

Also the apexes aren't made to be the same

They have their own strengths and weaknesses

But you must play on alt turn server so I guess rex wont have as many weaknesses

@lethal wren

[lethal wren]

Yes.

[jovial blade]

That's thermal imaging

That's what technology can see

Animals use night vision

[lethal wren]

Will I didn't know that. xD

Sorry for that.

[jovial blade]

Its ok

[lethal wren]

Thanks.

[jovial blade]

Np

[waxen elk]

Giga doesn't need a speed buff

Rex kind of does

and at the same time

Not really

[umbral prairie]

reaper if a rex decides to get you, you literally have to trot away and it won't get you. If you let it so close that even with you running away it still get's you in it's 30 second sprint time then that is on you

if it is not that close (which really is very close) you can trot away and it will never get you

rex hunting style is to get things when it get's close before starting to run

and even then it only really catches things when ambushing, and the ambush is so short that it only runs about 70 meters with it, if it's prey runs away that is really not much

[jovial blade]

Lol yeah it's your own fault getting caught out

[rose sundial]

Region 2 🙌
Nice map, easy to learn it, not too small, not too big. But sadly I don't think we'll ever see it again @waxen elk 😕

[lethal wren]

Don't be Disappointed, We get It Back Soon.
I love Region 2 too.

[rose sundial]

For real?

that would make me install isle again 😂

[lethal wren]

Hope's.

xD

[rose sundial]

Well well, let's keep hoping ; D

[lethal wren]

I just Hoping.

Sure

[rose sundial]

God bless dondi

🙌

[lethal wren]

[pulsar lake]

Old region 2 lightning

So nostalgic

[umbral prairie]

@craggy river why

it is supposed to have stamina problems

[pulsar lake]

He don't have stam.

And a little ambush

And no bleed

It's why he need bone break

don't talk about herbs

[jovial blade]

Lol giga and rex is fine

Why are so many people complaining

Is it because alt turn makes It op?

[pulsar lake]

Probably

[jovial blade]

With no alt turn rex is still good but can be beaten

No one complains about

It

Also rex is suppose to be fast

So many people here trying to nerf speed lol

Yet its stam is so bad

[pulsar lake]

But ass riding is cancer too 🤔

Yes

30seconde

[jovial blade]

Ass ride can be avoided though

And rex is suppose to be ambushing

[pulsar lake]

I hate alt and ass ride

[jovial blade]

So if you are caught in middle of a pack it's sort of your fault

I think alt turn will be good when collision is a thing

[pulsar lake]

Yes

Collision and damage located

[jovial blade]

Yes

Dilos can bleed out rex from biting ankle

Lol

[pulsar lake]

Stop the fuckibg Utah who will bite your ankle

To the death

But rex is good now.
Remember progression rex

With 90% of bb

36kmph

A good stam

[umbral prairie]

bb is too strong

[pulsar lake]

Good trot

And fucking good ambush

This rex was for dumb

For rex I think this type of bone break is appropriate

If he bite the body

[valid flower]

Rex needs a

rework

[pulsar lake]

In what?

Rex wasn't very slow. He haved the strongest bite of all terrestrial creatures and was a tank.
If the rex was cancerous it will be like irl, the best predators of all time.

[paper oriole]

Rex BB isnt the issue as much as it being the only thing with BB is

I know others will get it again later but right now its dumb

[pulsar lake]

If he don't have bone break, he will need more damage. His bone break his is only luck to kill something.

After yes when I see a rex bite the tail of an allo and he get bb it's dumb

[umbral prairie]

bb needs a rework, not rex

sry caps

[pulsar lake]

It's in rework

BB in one of the most op thing in the game.

[paper oriole]

Obviously if that shit bites your leg its probably broken its only logic, but things like pachy and anky and other crunchers should have it too, not one apex predator who is already powerful

[pulsar lake]

Anky yes

But pachy another type of bone break

And a stun can be good

[paper oriole]

A charge impact would be nice

[pulsar lake]

But I imagine some type of abilitys for all dinosaur and I have some idea

[paper oriole]

If it whacks a leg at full sprint though it should have bb chance but that possibility will have to wait on locational

[pulsar lake]

You can bb an Utah or a dilo

But nothing bigger than carno, carno included

[paper oriole]

Unfortunately rexes dont have to wait for locational and will keep breaking legs by biting tail tips until then it seems

[jovial blade]

Bb will be locational

So all the whinning is useless

You can vent off the saltiness sure

But bb will be fixed in with locational damage

So biting tails and what not wont break bone

Lol if a rex bit a Utah or dilo with a clean hit

It would be immobilized

[barren zephyr]

how will collision work...

if you're trying to sprint through for a quick bite

[jovial blade]

You can't you will be stuck

So I think that's where alt turn will come into play

[barren zephyr]

ram into a dino get stuck like being stuck on a tree, then alt turn and fuck off?

that sounds.......difficult for some dinos lol

and relatively clunky tbh. hard to imagine till ya see it I guess

[civic sky]

locational damage is especially what i'm waiting for before growing a trike again, here's hoping it obliterates rexes head on.

until then though i'll be enjoying my pachy

[umbral prairie]

I think collision will be more than just what we see with trees

hit and run like we know it will probably not be a thing

but maybe they'll find another solution for it

[jovial blade]

Isk

Idk

Not sure how it will work

[barren zephyr]

I'm just thinking about dinos like Allo (not that it's in a bad place) or even Dilos (also very strong right now) but if you can get stuck on dinos while trying to make passes, it will really weaken packs of things like that

[jovial blade]

Will there be like tackling

[barren zephyr]

I mean I hate dilo packs personally so that's ok with me lol

[jovial blade]

Latching onto prey with bite

I mean dilos are small enough to move through the legs

They bite ankles

[umbral prairie]

I hope that there will be ramming/holding onto things/impaling

[jovial blade]

Yeah if there isn't

How will collision even work

[barren zephyr]

I imagine there would be at least the first two

third sounds a little hard to make a thing

[jovial blade]

I feel like it will be derpy if theres none of that

[barren zephyr]

but we'll have to see what the defensive response to those things is

[jovial blade]

Also will your turn be stopped

[umbral prairie]

grabbing things involves ramming though, if a rex ambushes a para from the side grabbing it's neck it should throw the para on the ground

[jovial blade]

If a dino is infront

[umbral prairie]

momentum mechanics are hard to do

[jovial blade]

I'd imagine you would have to go for the ass or be side to side

[umbral prairie]

it depends on both players speed and size and where they bite

[brittle merlin]

no to the auto log out, the amount of time I would accidentally log out would be far to great, and people new to the game would not know what happened

[jovial blade]

Ikr

And when I'm on 2 monitors

[vagrant crest]

It stops people from combat logging the way they do, and gives them the ability to still safe log

[jovial blade]

I press esc

To go on my other monitor

[vagrant crest]

idk what you're doing sitting in the escape menu for 60s

[brittle merlin]

there are other ways to do that vralen

[vagrant crest]

probably getting ready to combat log.

[brittle merlin]

what about not official servers where the timer is shorter?

[jovial blade]

Vralen that would fuck over too many peolle

People

[brittle merlin]

exactly

[vagrant crest]

yeah. it would fuck over the combat loggers

[brittle merlin]

noobies would think they are crashing

[vagrant crest]

and shift the meta away from sitting in a bush with logout ready for when you hear footsteps

[brittle merlin]

vralen, there are better ways to do that... that solution is just dumb

[jovial blade]

^

[lilac swallow]

We just need something that discourages people of growing afk

[brittle merlin]

yeah

[vagrant crest]

Like?

[jovial blade]

I also dont thing it's that bad of a thing anyway

If it's not effecting other players negatively

[vagrant crest]

It's actually terrible right now

[brittle merlin]

not getting kicked out of the server if you have the escape menu up for 60 seconds

[jovial blade]

And they aren't cheating or anything

[vagrant crest]

All I'm reading is "no, but i'm not going to give any viable alternatives"

[jovial blade]

Vralen

We told you why it is a bad idea

[brittle merlin]

well... that alternative is not viable

[vagrant crest]

and I told you why it's a good one.

[brittle merlin]

its not

[jovial blade]

I dont think it's that big of a problem

[brittle merlin]

at all

[jovial blade]

Its really not

[vagrant crest]

Combat logging is huge

and a massive amount of players just sit semi-afdk waiting for a threat

[brittle merlin]

yeh... but they can't do anything during that time

[barren zephyr]

that's not combat logging

that's pussin' out while growing

[jovial blade]

You are out weighing the positives vs negatives

You're creating 4 new problems

[brittle merlin]

yeh

[barren zephyr]

combat logging is basically impossible unless you're an apex lol

[jovial blade]

To fix 1

[vagrant crest]

I'm creating 1 problem

[jovial blade]

No

[vagrant crest]

You can't sit in escape menu ready to logout.

[jovial blade]

You're so ignorant

I'm done with this topic

[barren zephyr]

woah names are flying

[lilac swallow]

With that idea people will just afk grow the same just they will be forced to wait 60 sec for logout

[vagrant crest]

i don't see you making any suggestions

[umbral prairie]

you can fix that by resetting the logout timer every 70 seconds

[jovial blade]

I told you this isnt a big deal

[umbral prairie]

so you have 10 seconds to log out

[jovial blade]

So no need for suggestion

[brittle merlin]

yeh... fix a problem by creating a problem, instead of taking a few more mins to think to come up with a solution that does not cause problems

[umbral prairie]

and then it resets to 60

so you cannot have logout ready at all times

[vagrant crest]

"I'm going to whine but not give any input" nice

[barren zephyr]

Sammel has a decent enough suggestion there

[vagrant crest]

Ty Sam

[barren zephyr]

that's what I was thinking basically

[jovial blade]

How is it whinning

[brittle merlin]

Sam's idea is way better vralen

[barren zephyr]

10 second window to safe log and restart the counter.

[jovial blade]

I literally gave you points on why it would cause problems

[vagrant crest]

"That's a bad idea, but i'm not going to give any other solutions for the problem"

[jovial blade]

You just didnt care to read them

[brittle merlin]

it is criticism... your idea was dumb vralen... not whining

[lilac swallow]

"you dont make any suggestion" like everyone has had enought time to think about one in less than 5 minutes

[barren zephyr]

well when you guys stop taking shit personally in a dino game suggestion channel, lemme know lol. Brb

[brittle merlin]

and I did make a suggestion =/

[lilac swallow]

We are giving you counter arguments thats enought

[jovial blade]

His fault he cant improve his suggestion

From counter arguments

He just expects us to give better oens

Ones

[vagrant crest]

Sure thing buddy. I'm just not seeing any valid input from you

[jovial blade]

I literally told you

[lilac swallow]

Me neither

[jovial blade]

Why it will be bad

People who use monitors press esc to browser on the other monitor

[lilac swallow]

Your suggestion isnt a valid imput neither

[brittle merlin]

give it up monk... he is to stuck in his own ass

[jovial blade]

Servers with low login timer would get fucked over

New people would get fucked over aswell

[lilac swallow]

So guys, you that are active right now, what tou think about my 3 suggestion about in game chat

[vagrant crest]

I get it. It's easier for you to poke holes in suggestions rather then being a problem solver

[brittle merlin]

I liked them dragon

[jovial blade]

Vralen

It's your suggestion

Not ours

What about people who dont use discord

And people with no mics

[lilac swallow]

We get it vralen, you found your suggestion isnt liked so you entered the "you dont have idea what are you talking" mode

[vagrant crest]

No I entered "You're trying to shoot it down without giving an alternative mode or building on it"

Which Sam did

Unlike you guys

[jovial blade]

The f call I agree

That shit is so lous

Loud

They should atleast make f call quiter when you are crouching

[lilac swallow]

@jovial blade what i think is that having to use an official discord because the in game chat is shitty is simply stupid

[brittle merlin]

there, happy now vralen?

[vagrant crest]

Yes.

[jovial blade]

Not everyone likes discord or uses discord

I dont like hearing peoples voices some times it blocks out the in game noises

I think the chat should stay

[lilac swallow]

And simply using a third party chat when there is a un game chat is plain stupid

[jovial blade]

Global and species global would be too much

[brittle merlin]

yeh I agree

[jovial blade]

I only agree with the f call though

Maybe when you are crouched the f call can be quiter?

[lilac swallow]

Maybe but with the official server chat when you can group up with other is practically the same

[brittle merlin]

I think the lowering the f call is needed, but I do think a chat that is only carnis when you are playing a carni, and only herbis when your a herbi would be nice

[jovial blade]

I find it much easier using global

To join packs

And to see if anyone wants to be nested

[umbral prairie]

@half plinth afaik the flyers will be available to everyone

[lilac swallow]

No, carnis just Talk with their own specie

[jovial blade]

How will you nest people

[umbral prairie]

and hypers will also be playable at some point

[brittle merlin]

u can still use global

[half plinth]

but the aren't @umbral prairie

they*

[umbral prairie]

not right now

[jovial blade]

Eh it's too much having 2 globals

[brittle merlin]

we are not saying remove global monk

[jovial blade]

Its fine just having a pack

And talking in group

[umbral prairie]

but I agree that the other dinosaurs should be balanced

[jovial blade]

Group is basically that but people you invited

[half plinth]

then you missed the point of my message lol

i don't think they have their priorities straight

a lot of their attention is on fliers and hypos

[umbral prairie]

it is hard to balance right now

[lilac swallow]

And the ability to know what players are playing the same dino so you can invite them to group?

[umbral prairie]

because there is a combat rework planned

[half plinth]

that's gaming

[umbral prairie]

that will change balancing

[vagrant crest]

They removed collision with several of their rock assets a while ago

[jovial blade]

@half plinth Space out your suggestions

[vagrant crest]

It was a terrible time and poorly implemented

[umbral prairie]

after that they will look into balance more

flyers are getting ready to be playable

[vagrant crest]

People were just afk growing in large rocks

[jovial blade]

You have too many suggestions in 1 big slab of text

[umbral prairie]

and tbh I'd rather have a ptera than bary

[half plinth]

@jovial blade not sure how to make it more spaced out. Enter key sends it

[umbral prairie]

not all sandbox dinos should be in survival

[jovial blade]

Shift enter

[half plinth]

thank you

[jovial blade]

Or just type it separated

[half plinth]

that is very useful info

didn't know that

[jovial blade]

So people can react to serperate suggestion

[half plinth]

i tried to number them anyway

[vagrant crest]

Shift+enter is the way to go since you can format it without other ppl typing a suggestions before you're done

or create your suggestion in a notepad and copy and paste it

[jovial blade]

That can work

[umbral prairie]

I think their priorities regarding balancing vs new playables is ok since combat will change, plus I don't think every sandbox dino needs to be balanced to be injected to survival

[half plinth]

honestly didn't know about the Shift + Enter. So thank you for that. I would've done that. I agree that mine looks very sloppy

[vagrant crest]

also rex and trikes having stam regen?

idk about that

[umbral prairie]

balancing sandbox dinos should not be a priority

[vagrant crest]

Seems like giga's niche

[half plinth]

but spinos have it too

[umbral prairie]

both trike and rex are supposed to use their stam carefully

[vagrant crest]

Spino isn't survival

[umbral prairie]

giga is endurance hunter

[half plinth]

but they are still in survival

i've played against them

[vagrant crest]

The fact that you can bait out rex and stam trike is huge for killing them

[umbral prairie]

spino is not a survival creature

[vagrant crest]

They were injected by mods

but they aren't survival dinos

[jovial blade]

Rex will have like barely any weaknesses

[half plinth]

no they aren't survival but they are there by payment

[umbral prairie]

they decide what they want to inject, they know some dinos are too weak/strong

[jovial blade]

If it can regen stam while standing

[half plinth]

like i said it could be a terrible recharge

[jovial blade]

I think we should leave it as it is

[umbral prairie]

again, they are not in survival mode, but admins can inject them

[jovial blade]

Rex needs weaknesses

No need to buff it

[vagrant crest]

You can't hold a sandbox dino up to a survival dino and say "balance survival dino's around this"

[umbral prairie]

and don't play on pay for lives servers

[vagrant crest]

It's the opposite

[umbral prairie]

don't support that stuff

it is stupid

[half plinth]

what server doesn't have paid for dinos?

i haven't seen one

[umbral prairie]

officials

[half plinth]

nycta 3, nublar 2, bio isle, IGP

[vagrant crest]

They just don't have sandbox dinos for the most part

[jovial blade]

I dont play on officals

[vagrant crest]

Those are all community servers

[jovial blade]

😂

Community servers are fun

[half plinth]

then im still learning

[umbral prairie]

yeah because you hate alt turn for some reason

[half plinth]

i don't know official servers then

[jovial blade]

Alt turn literally buffs apexes

I like how smaller dinos stand a better chance with no alt

[umbral prairie]

it nerfs ass riders

[vagrant crest]

type "official" into your search bar and set your max server count to 1000

[umbral prairie]

you like ass riding I know

[vagrant crest]

You'll see them

[jovial blade]

Literally if you get ass rided

Its your fault

[umbral prairie]

no

[jovial blade]

Yes

[umbral prairie]

it really isn't

[vagrant crest]

idk about that Monk

[jovial blade]

Skileld players dont jsut get ass rided

[umbral prairie]

often you cannot prevent it

[vagrant crest]

I just throw tanky sharp turning dinos at ppl and take the first bite and then ass ride them to death

[jovial blade]

With rex I find it like that

And I see it as a balance

[vagrant crest]

and rex is easy to assride without having to do that also

[umbral prairie]

you walk by, utah runs out of the forest to your ass --> you're dead

[jovial blade]

Rex can 1 shot almost anything

[barren zephyr]

it's tail doesn't have a mouth

[umbral prairie]

it cannot one shot things biting it's ass

[jovial blade]

Exactly

[vagrant crest]

How is that fair?

[umbral prairie]

unless the ass riders are retarded

and fall for simple tricks

[jovial blade]

How is it fair things get 2 shot

1

[barren zephyr]

nature

[umbral prairie]

lower growth time?

pack hunters?

[half plinth]

like a rex 1 shot a galli?

[vagrant crest]

Because when a 2ton creature gets hit by a 6ton creature they should die

[umbral prairie]

different type of creature?

[jovial blade]

You just gave reasons on how to avoid ass riding

[barren zephyr]

the problem with no alt turn is that it takes packs (already very strong) and makes them essentially unbeatable

[jovial blade]

Lol

Isnt that beautiful

You're just unaware

[umbral prairie]

?

[jovial blade]

You have played on alt turn for too long

[half plinth]

rexes don't 1 shot giga, trike, suchos, allos

[jovial blade]

With no alt turn hunting is mostly ambush based

[umbral prairie]

I have played on no alt turn for very long

and I have solo ass ridden many rexes to death

[jovial blade]

Which is how it should be

Its amazing isnt it

[umbral prairie]

and it is disgustingly easy

and very unfair

[jovial blade]

They can 1 shit you but you still have a chance to get them

Shot

[barren zephyr]

you think that these animals....had no way to defend their backs...and remained apexes for millions of years?

[jovial blade]

In alt turn

They're just stationary turrets

😂

[umbral prairie]

in alt turn you cannot solo apexes as a low tier, yes

[vagrant crest]

sees apex 7 hour grow creature as one lone 2 hour creature
proceeds to run at them avoid them and ass ride them to death

[barren zephyr]

there have been many great suggestions to fix alt turn

[umbral prairie]

that is how it should be

[vagrant crest]

skill

[barren zephyr]

1. give it an animation

[half plinth]

and you don't think that they could turn like that in real life?

[barren zephyr]

2. drain stam

[jovial blade]

No they cant

[barren zephyr]

3. possibly not allow ambush

[jovial blade]

Alt turn rn is bad

It needa tweaks

Needs

[barren zephyr]

there's plenty of ways to tweak it

[vagrant crest]

Most bipedal creatures can actually turn on one spot

[jovial blade]

Also a better animations

[half plinth]

a stationary rex wouldn't be able to turn its neck and turn itself around?

[vagrant crest]

It needs an animation, and that's it

[jovial blade]

Vralen yeah but they weren't stationary turrets

[umbral prairie]

the weird alt turn is 10 times better than no alt turn

[jovial blade]

Lmfao

[barren zephyr]

agreed sammel

[jovial blade]

Tweak on alt turn+ realistic animation

👍

[umbral prairie]

I also don't like how it is now, but no alt turn is stupid

[barren zephyr]

I can agree with that

[half plinth]

agree sammel

[barren zephyr]

think about it this way

[jovial blade]

I like no alt turn

[vagrant crest]

If there were no alt turn my expectation would be for side stepping and backstepping to both be implemented at the same time

[barren zephyr]

with the 10000 packs of Dilos there are now

[jovial blade]

Makes combat more dangerous

[barren zephyr]

how the fuck do you defend against that with no alt turn at all lol

[jovial blade]

And it's the who ambushes who first mentality

[umbral prairie]

yeah the animation seems to be a problem for many people, many realism server admins used 'dinos weren't ballerinas' as their main argument

[vagrant crest]

but as it stands no alt turn servers are actually terrible

[jovial blade]

That's so false vralen

[barren zephyr]

it's not true or false

[vagrant crest]

See what i did there? Gave an alternative suggestion

[jovial blade]

Its false

[barren zephyr]

it's subjective so stop wasting breath on your opinion

[umbral prairie]

the ass rider could walk back/sideways aswell though

[jovial blade]

The combat on no alt turn looks fine

Rexes suffer the most though

[vagrant crest]

You give side stepping abd backstepping different speeds based off the dino

[barren zephyr]

really one Dino suffers, something else becomes the Apex

[vagrant crest]

and also give people the ability to use both at the same time

[umbral prairie]

alt turn needs to be slower for some dinos

[vagrant crest]

It gives more movement options

but I still support alt-turning

but if it wasn't a thing

[jovial blade]

Alt turn can be a good way of combat but as it is now I dont like it

[vagrant crest]

then my alternative would be my expectation

[jovial blade]

Its just stationary turrets turning in 360s

[umbral prairie]

same monkizu

[vagrant crest]

Look I'm alt turning in RL right now

[umbral prairie]

but it is better than no alt turn at all

[lilac swallow]

The thing is that rexes and other apexes has their own right to be unkillable by smaller things they had to grow more than twice the time

[vagrant crest]

with no issues

[jovial blade]

A Utah juv weighs like 40x more then you

😂

You're light weight

The alt turn rn isnt realistic

[barren zephyr]

uh.....40x more...iunno

[umbral prairie]

stop with realism

[vagrant crest]

It's more realistic then no alt turn

[jovial blade]

@barren zephyr exaggeration but they were really heavy 😂

[umbral prairie]

nobody needs realism to that extent, plus a rex dying to some shitty raptor biting it's ass for 15 minutes is way more unrealistic than the rex turning in place

[vagrant crest]

That's just bad gameplay

[barren zephyr]

if this game were realistic nobody would play it lol

it's in no Dinos interest to Dino clash

[jovial blade]

That's false?

[umbral prairie]

rexes would fuck everything over

[jovial blade]

Saurion is based on realisim

[umbral prairie]

best sense of smell

[jovial blade]

So no one plays it

?

[umbral prairie]

incredible eyesight

crushes everything

and is more agile than other theropods it's size

[jovial blade]

Obviously they cant mimmick it all

Due to balancing

[vagrant crest]

Want realism? My rex should be able to spot things from 3 miles away

[jovial blade]

And dont forget

[vagrant crest]

and scent them

[jovial blade]

The time periods arent even right

[lilac swallow]

Letting a utah even the smaller chance of beating an apex is just unfair, the utah grew in 1/5 the time and had easier time hiding and sustaining It self during its grow

[umbral prairie]

rex could scent everyone on the island

[jovial blade]

So it cant be 100% accurste

[shell willow]

Rex should be able to identify every dino by highlighting them specifically when they scent and it has to be from 20 miles away because #realism

[jovial blade]

But taking a step to more accurate gameplay would be much better

[barren zephyr]

Certain dinos would just...not even fight

[jovial blade]

Then diverting to weird mechanics

[vagrant crest]

That's a good suggestion Cyber

I like it

[jovial blade]

Like a 360 1 shot turret

[shell willow]

thank you

[vagrant crest]

If you get hit by a rex alt turn I've got some bad news for you

[shell willow]

I take my nesting seriously

[vagrant crest]

You're not very good at the game

[jovial blade]

I dont play on alt turn servers

[umbral prairie]

rex alt turn is not that good

[jovial blade]

I dont like the mechanic

As itnis

[umbral prairie]

giga is way too fast

[jovial blade]

Is

But it has potential

[barren zephyr]

I don't like all the rules of the other servers

[vagrant crest]

https://giant.gfycat.com/LameDangerousAtlanticspadefish.webm

Just a reference

[barren zephyr]

if you gave me an official server with simply no alt turn i might consider

[umbral prairie]

why is dryo alt turn so slow

[jovial blade]

Lmao

Look at sucho

Literally good luck hitting a sucho

Without getting hit

[umbral prairie]

look at giga

[vagrant crest]

Sucho's got his own problems

[lilac swallow]

As i said letting a utah have even the smaller chance of beating an apex is just unfair, the utah grew in 1/5 the time and had easier time hiding and sustaining It self during its grow

[jovial blade]

Damn they are fast as fuck

[vagrant crest]

and giga is overtuned

[umbral prairie]

giga turns as fast as sucho

[jovial blade]

I thought alt turn was relatively slow

[umbral prairie]

definitely needs to be slower

[jovial blade]

That shit is fast

😂

[vagrant crest]

Killing rex's on alt turn servers isn't hard

[mental sleet]

@lilac swallow trample might still be a thing, so utahs will just get run over by rexes.

[vagrant crest]

giga's are almost impossible

without taking many casualties

[umbral prairie]

killing rexes on alt turn is ok, it's just not ass riding all the time

[jovial blade]

This server people are always complaining about rex being too op

[lilac swallow]

Just alt turn

[jovial blade]

So alt turn must make it better

[umbral prairie]

rex is not op, just the current bb is

[lilac swallow]

People that complains about Rex being too op are just bad and dont know what they dont have to mess with

[jovial blade]

70% is a bit too high

[civic sky]

that and there aren't m,any dinos who are meant to counter it

trike is the only one technically

[jovial blade]

No lol

Trike is its dinner

[vagrant crest]

I got within 70 meters of a rex and it ran at me and broke my leg nerf rex

[jovial blade]

Another rex is

[half plinth]

that's false monk

[civic sky]

trike is just missing mechanics to help it is all

[half plinth]

trike was rexes most significant threat of it's day

[jovial blade]

Rex is a rexes worst enemy

[lilac swallow]

Im an utah player and i know what i dont have to mess with

[jovial blade]

Blasts that's so false

Lmfao

[vagrant crest]

Trikes are actually pretty threatening to rex

[umbral prairie]

it is not the high chance alone, it is that one bb bite = your movement is completely shitty + your bone can break because something bit the air behind your tail, but both of these will be fixed

[half plinth]

dude read about it

[jovial blade]

Trex literally hunted armoured prey

[vagrant crest]

It's not like they walk away from that fight not injured

and then you run into those times that you get shafted and do 7 bites with no bb

[jovial blade]

The main threat to a rex would be another rex

Trust me

[vagrant crest]

and the trike just stomps you to death

[shell willow]

poor utahs and pachies and gallis just can't nest anywhere good because the second they sit on the nest like 5 allos show up and take over the area
I'm a minimalist, I like to start in as a utah and be with one other utah mate, and then nest and start a small pack from there. I don't want to be in a giant pack, I just want like 3 or 4 babies so we can take out a para or a maia together as a group when they grow.

[half plinth]

in the game yea

[civic sky]

and trike or anky

[jovial blade]

Prey Is not yourr main threat

No

I'm talking inrl

[civic sky]

even irl

[half plinth]

irl trikes were a threat

[jovial blade]

Rex was equipped to kill armoured dinos

[umbral prairie]

not a threat

[half plinth]

they weren't considered easy prey

[civic sky]

those two were it's biggest "nope"

[jovial blade]

Bro

[umbral prairie]

not easy prey, but also not really a threat

[jovial blade]

Do you know what prey and a threat is

[vagrant crest]

@shell willow I actually liked utah rock for that reason

[civic sky]

you ocerestimate rex irl, strong yes but not unkillable

[jovial blade]

Another trex would be a threat

[lilac swallow]

If trike didnt stand a chance against rexes (i dont see them as runners) they would just has gone extint

[civic sky]

overestimate*

[jovial blade]

When did I say they were unkillable

I said they were equipped to take on armoured dinosaurs

They didnt have the strongest land animal bite force just for show

[lilac swallow]

And trikes where equiped to fight too

[umbral prairie]

of course anky and trike could kill a rex but the rex would not let that happen very often unless it is unexperienced

[jovial blade]

To defend

[shell willow]

I'm glad utah rock is gone, don't get me wrong, even if pachies could get up there they just got swarmed and had no chance of competing
I'm talking about little caves that aren't necessarily safe and invulnerable, but just safe enough that we can feel peace of mind about nesting there

[jovial blade]

Ofcourse there comes a risk of dying or injury

That comes with many prey inrl

But you went as far as to call their prey threats

😂

[vagrant crest]

What if we had many utah rocks though

So that all the small tiers could pick one and nest there

[jovial blade]

Ew

There would be multiple Utah packs

[mental sleet]

a stop-gap

not exactly a solution

[jovial blade]

On separate rocks

[vagrant crest]

they already do that Monk

[shell willow]

implying there should only be one utah pack per server

[vagrant crest]

even without the rock

[umbral prairie]

what if collision didn't allow you to stand on a tiny ledge with half your body sticking inside a rock so you can jump up that rock

[jovial blade]

The map is big

I barely see them

Unless I go docks

[lilac swallow]

As utah player, pls not more safe rocks, is imposible to have an active pack

[jovial blade]

Utah infested

Ike

[vagrant crest]

That's the only downside to safe spots

[jovial blade]

Ikr

[vagrant crest]

people get complacent

[jovial blade]

Utahs literally just sit on safe spots and eat ai

[shell willow]

you barely see them because what's the fucking point if you can't play and live longer than it takes to grow
I don't want safe rocks, I want caves that force jumpers to compete with other jumpers but at the same time be able to nest somewhat safely so the babies don't have 0 chance of survival

[vagrant crest]

What if the rocks had like a little obstical course that other dinos could get up there by using?

[jovial blade]

We need a Utah contender!

[vagrant crest]

Still safe for the small tiers since they can jump down

[lilac swallow]

I hated utah rock with all my will, i like utah but isnt fun when you are either chating or solo because every other utah is afk

[jovial blade]

They must fight for the rocks

[vagrant crest]

but larger dinos can still get up there to ruin the spot for them

[shell willow]

pachies should be utah's contender

[vagrant crest]

The only real downside to that suggestion is then apex's nest up there

[shell willow]

I said no??

[civic sky]

they are still or atleast the utahs i've killed.

[shell willow]

@vagrant crest They couldn't nest up there

[vagrant crest]

So just make the obstacles harder

[jovial blade]

I hope pachy gets some sort of damage boost

With collision

[civic sky]

indeed, i'd like that

[jovial blade]

Just ramming a small dinos rib cage

[shell willow]

the cave would be too small to fit an apex, the apexes would only be able to reach and bite at the utahs or gallis or pachies or whatever are up there

[vagrant crest]

Really then, what makes it different then a dryo den that you can just nest in?

[shell willow]

dryos can't nest in their burrows

[jovial blade]

Dryos should be able tbh

[shell willow]

^

[vagrant crest]

Right, but if there's these caves that you can nest in and larger prey can't get into

[jovial blade]

Hatcling stage doesn't last that long

[vagrant crest]

Sounds like a dryo den with that capability

[jovial blade]

And the adults still risk being hunted

Because they need to get food

Etc

[shell willow]

allos wouldn't be able to touch them, but a rex or a giga would be able to use their necc™ to bite at them and kill them if they're close enough to the edge

[lilac swallow]

Every baby is absurdly weak, i would even say that small dinos babys has a better time surviving because their mothers are harder to see

[jovial blade]

I like idea of small spaces for hatchlings

This is where oviraptor comes into play

[vagrant crest]

So really....is your suggestion just to add dens for all the smalls, so that they can nest in?

[jovial blade]

:3

It will raid burrows and caves

Steal eggs

Eat hatchlimgs

Amazing gameplay

[vagrant crest]

but have them close enough to the surface that they can be gobbled up if too close to the entrance?

[shell willow]

that's literally my suggestion
little caves in cliff faces or rocks so they don't have to nest in ferns/bushes/trees or out in the open where they can't feel decently okay about it

yes

if they're hanging too close to the edge a rex could walk over and eat them

[vagrant crest]

You've just created mobile utah rock

[shell willow]

how

they aren't moving

caves don't move

[vagrant crest]

it's a safe spot that they can nest in and leave when they need to eat

How is that any different?

[shell willow]

it's too small to house hordes of them

???

[vagrant crest]

They just create multiple dens

[shell willow]

you couldn't place but 2 nests before it becomes too tight

you can't create caves

they already exist in the sides of the cliffs or rocks

that's what I'm saying

[vagrant crest]

So then it's just multiple utah rocks, but with limited access points

You see where I'm coming from, right?

[shell willow]

like 2 or 3 scattered across the map, and they would have to compete for the spots with other utahs or jumpers

[vagrant crest]

Yeah, so literally what i put out there earlier

[shell willow]

it's not as big of a problem as utah rock because they're smaller
actually, it's less of a problem than the rocks we already have ingame that utahs just sit on all day still

I just would like to see a decent nesting site for smaller dinos that really have no choice but to nest their babies in at bad locations

[vagrant crest]

I agree, I just feel like there should be some threat for them outside of other smalls

[shell willow]

what, like starving to death because of campers?

what other threat do you have other than finding someone else already living there

having to fight for the spot

etc

things I've already mentioned like the rex or giga being able to bite people near the edge, velociraptors could jump up and eat the babies while the parents are away too

they still have to worry about dinos bigger than them at all times, the cave would never be totally safe

[vagrant crest]

While campers have never been an issue for me when having a dryo den or being a utah on a high spot with regards to starving out. it is a nice suggestion for the smalls

It also prevents those crappy smalls that just like to sit there and watch as their party members fight someone else

[shell willow]

^

That kind of behavior bothers me

If I'm playing utah, I don't want to sit around and do nothing. Maybe nest in 3 or 4 babies, raise them to adulthood, and then go out exploring and leave the cave completely.

right now, utahs aren't in a good spot to do that because the only good places to nest are still really accessible to everything else

utahs nesting in a safe space isn't "not contributing to the game", it's trying to make sure the babies don't die immediately

[vagrant crest]

There's one spot that they can currently do it in

[shell willow]

see and I don't even know where that is

[vagrant crest]

It's the cage at the docks

There's a hole in the wall that smalls can fit through

Basically what you're asking for tbh

[shell willow]

I'd rather have something not manmade though

something natural

[vagrant crest]

That would be nice

[shell willow]

the option for both would be even nicer

[vagrant crest]

It could go in spots like the canyon

increase the foot traffic through there

[shell willow]

some people would prefer nesting at port, others like me would like to nest in more pretty aesthetic places or in caves of some sort

yeah

[jovial blade]

I just dont like how they can go out of reach places

There should be atleast a way to raid the utahs

[shell willow]

that's what I was saying earlier

[vagrant crest]

Nesting as a utah without a safe spot with allos being a thing is frustrating

[mental sleet]

its fair.

[shell willow]

other jumping dinos would be able to destroy their babies (might die in the process) but still do it, velos would be able to raid nests, take food, kill babies as well

[jovial blade]

Velo will just be ai

Hopefully ovriraptor gets added in

[mental sleet]

it would be hell to code velo AI to perfectly jump up rocks

[shell willow]

yeah but it can still take food from nests (oviraptor sounds fun af too)

[vagrant crest]

What if it was a spot accessible by flyers?

[mental sleet]

also it would be too big of a gamble for most scavengers to give it a go, since utahraptors would outspeed all of them

[vagrant crest]

so then there's still a very real threat

[shell willow]

^

[mental sleet]

what's pteranodon going to do to utah ?

tickle it ?

[jovial blade]

Oviraptor would be fast

[vagrant crest]

Murder all it's babies and carry them away for food when momma leaves the nest

[shell willow]

pteras could steal babies while the parents are hunting if they forget to leave someone behind to look after them

[jovial blade]

Velo seems to agile and weak to fit in

[mental sleet]

velo would work, but not as AI in this scenario.

[jovial blade]

I think it's good atm

Its like a raiding ai

It goes for juvs

But still need a gameplay of some sort

[mental sleet]

yeah but you need to have them get up the place

[jovial blade]

That is a opportunist

[mental sleet]

AI cannot do that with ease

[jovial blade]

And can kill juvs

Eat eggs

Eat hatchlings

[paper oriole]

herrera is a good existing dino who could be added to survival in this niche

[shell willow]

that too

[paper oriole]

oviraptor would be great tho

for the future

[shell willow]

rn there are some pretty good nesting spots on thenyaw, but v3 has almost nothing except port

[mental sleet]

soda, v3 has plenty of good nesting spots.

[shell willow]

it's just a pain to play as anything small

except dryo
dryos are fun, I like them

v3 has like 2 or 3 that I know of now, and even if they can temporarily help them nest they're not really good spots

Port is a giant utah rock, there's a secondary utah rock that everything can get on/off of fairly easily

[mental sleet]

there's a lot of utah rocks around, they are just out of the way.

people don't like being out of the way.

too boring, nothing comes around.

[vagrant crest]

Unable to nest on them

[mental sleet]

oh you can nest on a few of those alright.

they just don't do it.

[vagrant crest]

Which ones?

[silent blade]

The night day cycle is nowhere near 50/50. Pretty sure it's already 60/40

[shell willow]

it's 50/50 but dawn and dusk feel like extra night

[mental sleet]

There's this massive area with the huge waterfalls, its called Dump on the Vulnona map. Above Sewer Puddle. The Dam's rocks.

There was this hole inside the aviary's treatment plants, sadly the devs noticed.

but you can get up the buildings quite easily.

[vagrant crest]

Are you actually able to nest on the building?

[mental sleet]

I am not sure on that, last time I was there I was a male utah.

[vagrant crest]

pretty sure the dumps rocks are all accessible by things that we're suggesting the smalls have the ability to avoid

[mental sleet]

Dump is just a huge, overall empty area, it isn't really a utah rock, but nothing goes there from my experience.~

[shell willow]

lots of things go there when I go there

not a fun place for the sub rexes stopping for a drink

[mental sleet]

I never see anything there.

Its so out of the way.

[vagrant crest]

It's become a spot recently where people go to die

[mental sleet]

huh, interesting

[vagrant crest]

There are utah rocks spread throughout the map though

and it could be suggested that the smalls just nest next to the rock, and then climb it when a threat arrives

but then all the babies die

[mental sleet]

if burrows didn't vanish after death, utahs could take over dryo burrows for the same effect

[vagrant crest]

That would actually be super nice

Do burrows persist after the dryo logs? similar to nests?

[shell willow]

in a survival game the goal is to survive, and while yes, you will die a lot, how about the crazy idea of actually trying to give your dino a decent life

[vagrant crest]

Because utahs could just force dryos away from their den and nest next to it

and the other small tier babies could just have the ability to enter the dens also

Granted then your restricted by how many people play dryo

[mental sleet]

If AI dryo ever makes use of its burrow, it wouldn't be an issue

an idea for the future.

[vagrant crest]

Increase dens despawn timer to like 40mins after the dens owner dies

and so long as the den is actively used

[mental sleet]

you could always have it reset when something enters it.

outside of the ''if owned''

[shell willow]

when affinity gets added I really think not nesting in safe places will make life a bitch for your babies

more so than it already is

[mental sleet]

That's up to the parents

[shell willow]

at least when a pack of allos or a rex nests babies in, it can just defend the babies no problem against most other things, almost guarantees the baby survives until sub adulthood, then it's up to the baby to not be a fuckwad

[mental sleet]

it doesn't really help that packs aren't naturally limited atm

[shell willow]

utahs don't have the luxury of being able to protect their babies if the babies are facing the danger all the time

[vagrant crest]

tbf having anything small with you as a rex = dead baby when a utah sees it

[shell willow]

that's what utahs for my dude

killin baby rexes

[vagrant crest]

Pretty much

Just saying that nesting as an apex has it's difficulties also

[jovial blade]

Yep

Moving is harder

[shell willow]

no doubt much easier being able to protect them if theres 2 or more of them guarding

[jovial blade]

Smaller things can speed their way in and out

With utah

[vagrant crest]

Nah, one solo utah robs a 5 pack of their baby easily

[jovial blade]

You would need people scouting

For danger

[vagrant crest]

Though you can just tell the baby to get in a corner and you gaurd them

[jovial blade]

Utahs have the numbers aswell so they have multiple eyes on the look out

[shell willow]

also thing with utah, everyone hates utah players for existing so you bet your caramel-colored ass your babies are gonna get ate on sight

[vagrant crest]

Can't do that as a small

Though smalls babies have an easier time hiding

[shell willow]

utah packs that choose to adopt albino babies 👀

I don't have an albino skin for my utah, just brighter so I can distract shit while the rest of us lead the babies away

that's our only defense

[jovial blade]

Lol it's more dangerous in nest

A dino can bite nest and kill all babies in 1 bite

[shell willow]

yup

[jovial blade]

So they can just hide if parents find trouble

[vagrant crest]

Seems like we're getting a bit derailed from suggestion-discussion though

[shell willow]

we're still talking about nesting and being safe are we not

[vagrant crest]

True, just not seeing any building on your suggestion atm though

[shell willow]

it doesn't need to be built upon to be talked about, it says discussion

[vagrant crest]

Overall i like the idea though

[shell willow]

yea

There aren't any actual caves atm either, I'd like to see those eventually

[vagrant crest]

We've got one

Under dumps

[lone pagoda]

I like the cave idea, but V3 might be too big for it

[rocky shale]

i agree that the cera skin should be brighter, or more able to mix lighter greens and browns

[shell willow]

have more than one scattered around the map lol

[umbral prairie]

it could be cool to have some small caves in the jungle ravines

just some cracks in the walls for smaller dinos to be in

[lone pagoda]

Indeed dracorex. I feel like mixing colours is kinda tricky with cera and it's hard to make it look nice

[rocky shale]

its either some shade of black or albino

but that doesnt look great

[waxen elk]

FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT

Cerato is loud as fuck

[sage helm]

Wdym dossiers?

[vagrant crest]

@minor dome That's not bugged. It was intentional when they gave it the ability to eat small ribs till full adult

[lament thorn]

they are talking about these things

Think most creatures have them

[umbral prairie]

aren't they like 3 years old

or 2 at least

[dull kayak]

^^

[sage helm]

are they even official?

[umbral prairie]

I think they were

[dull kayak]

That example has cerato's in the top right, but idk if cerato was even out at that time XD

[sage helm]

Lol

I think those were more based on the irl dino too

But what do I know

[umbral prairie]

I don't know why it would be 'more balanced' though

[sage helm]

Yea

the info in it isnt even about game stats

its just like size and stuff

@barren zephyr Could you please explain what your thoughts were about this?

[edgy furnace]

how would that be more balanced

it doesnt have stats

[white falcon]

@barren peak on aquatics: (I didn’t look for any discussion on the bite or anything) Some aquatics could have a buildup as they’re moving, with a stationary bite being less than optimal, but overall a lot of things wouldn’t want to worry about a stationary bite for a subpar mechanic. Sure, it might work better for creatures that can create a pseudo-vacuum (Xiphactinus) to suck in their prey like a trap, but otherwise nah

Things like Xiphactinus that would suck in water really quickly to trap stuff wouldn’t have the strongest of bites, mostly relying on smaller prey being sucked in and avoiding the big bads like mosasaurus.

[edgy furnace]

@lost kettle you can but no one will understand what you mean

[lost kettle]

ah

[rocky shale]

some people will, and maybe those people and yourself will explain it to them and maybe they will use it until dondi hears everyone calling it that and maybe he says it on stream and everyone loses there minds lol @edgy furnace @lost kettle

[blazing charm]

@barren zephyr Suggestion discussion goes in here friendo

[barren zephyr]

what happens if you grow in the thicket

that's....

@blazing charm really silly if you think about it but thanks for the reminder

[blazing charm]

Oh no I get that.

[barren zephyr]

you just keepin the rules, I getchu

[blazing charm]

Oh I'm not a mod, I was just tryin to help

[barren zephyr]

I appreciate it, mod or not

[blazing charm]

But uh, yeah like you said. It is easily exploitable

[barren zephyr]

(not being sarcastic)

[blazing charm]

I think in that situation, it would probably be best if the creature stopped growing, kinda like when you enter a burrow

[barren zephyr]

mm yea

otherwise everyone would just grow in them

then pop out and hit "grow"

[glass blaze]

It'd keep people from getting stuck, too, if a hiding spot is small enough for a dino at .6 size but not .8 size.

[blazing charm]

@thorny lynx Define "group finder"?

[thorny lynx]

Like, say I am an adult rex and I want to pair. I can choose adult rex in a group finder checklist and it sends a prompt to every adult rex who is not in a group

Or just all adult rexes in general

[blazing charm]

So, it just spam invites everyone?

[rocky shale]

that sounds terrible

[haughty cliff]

You can just make it list you as looking for a group and people could click a button to invite themselves maybe

[thorny lynx]

Only adult rexes

Or only who you specify

[blazing charm]

You could literally achieve the same effect by just going through the player list, and sending them an invite one by one.

Or y'know, just ask on the discord if there is anyone looking to group up.

[thorny lynx]

But I don't want to possibly add a bunch of juvies

[blazing charm]

....

Why not?

Also, not even gonna start how that would just be abused to track down adults, and adults only.

But please, elaborate.

[misty island]

@blazing charm ur right there’s no need to attack ppl but that cunt just got on my nerves too many times

He never actually make suggestions his own

Always copying others ideas

And him replying just cracked me

[torpid wedge]

if you want a group finder

make people actually sign up for invites

if it's gonna send it to every lone person then

[misty island]

I support the idea that adds a inter species global chat but you have to make it so u 1call

And the range would be the distance of 1 call

[versed blaze]

Ehm, no

That would be abused

Unfortunately.

[misty island]

Well it’s more of a trade off

Ideally a player logs in 1 call run the fuck away

And that’s it

[versed blaze]

You'd get a bunch of single rexes or Gigas within range of a one call ganging up on folks

1 calls travel a long ways

[misty island]

Ummm

The ideal was to let people find group mates

Maybe a huge cool down would help

But again if a bunch of giga and Rex oncalling

Like surrounding you

U d know ur fucked and would run the fuck away

[shell willow]

group finder sounds so fuckin abuseable my mans

Group slaughter is a thing, people will add someone to a group hoping for a new ally and they just come and kill you off

It's not that common but it would be if a group finder existed

(also spamming invites is ew)

[jovial blade]

@cinder plank Maybe this one?

question is do we need a small or big one

Your one is alot smaller

We are getting deinosuchas so im not sure if we need either

[lone pagoda]

I agree with diablo being a bit OP but it's nice having a strong herb that isn't trike!

[grand brook]

on the diablo turn thing, how about no

[misty island]

Na dibble is fine

[lone pagoda]

like it the way it is^

[grand brook]

it's their one big trump card, don't take it away

[misty island]

Dibbles are adorable as fuck

Not the models

The models are just fine

The fact that it’s aggressive as fuck in such a tiny potato is cute

And the potato can actually hit u hard makes it even better

It’s like watching a baby dragon breathes fire

Except it doesn’t have fire

And wings

And doesn’t grow

Meh

Dibbles are shit

Please buff

[sage helm]

🤔