So if someone turned "deaf mode" on, the games audio is turned off until "deaf mode" is off as well, so that it would be harder to abuse?
#general-feedback-discussion
leaden trellis
violet magnet
but then there are people who are hard of hearing but not completely deaf so eehhh...
echo zinc
I'm completely deaf. These are good points made.
It means I completely cannot hear anything...
Like I said - there must be some approach to allow us to be able to play without sounds, and substitute with cues.
loud oasis
I voted that there could be a delay from which a player would normally hear a sound, via the visual coming in at a delay to give deaf people something even if it is putting them in a disadvantage
violet magnet
delay in cues could be life or death tho
loud oasis
It is better than nothing though
echo zinc
I liked the idea of Skittles. Enable sounds, or enable deaf mode.
But it could cause lag. So I don't really know. It's up to the developers through.
leaden trellis
It would make sense, like how other games have a "Colorblind mode"
You either have it on, or off
sacred wyvern
@willow aurora
ive broke my leg running off a rock on v3
so it should stay as without it carno is going to die from rocks when running downhill
obsidian matrix
@craggy jasper if u want rules like that, play on privat servers with such rules
umbral prairie
herbivores should be able to attack when they want to, why would they not attack a carnivore approaching them just because it doesn't scream at them
also, the rules on official servers are temporary until there are actual in game mechanics replacing them
barren zephyr
thats not the rules
nocturne blaze
@craggy jasper so youre saying if I attack a herbivore as a carni, as long as I dont 3 call i can just kill it and it cant attack me back
still temple
umbral prairie
it would still be a bad rule even if you were allowed to attack once you get attacked
without getting 3 called first
lone crypt
You should be allowed to attack whenever, especially when a carni gets close
nocturne blaze
Official isnt a realism server and I think people forget that
lone crypt
^^^
umbral prairie
what herbivore that can fight irl waits until it gets screamed at or bitten (sorry for irl comparison, but I think in this case it is ok)
nocturne blaze
👆
arctic sierra
Ambushing players simply would forget about 3 calling, and a herbi needs to attack in self-defence in that case when it gets too close
nocturne blaze
"Hey look an allo, I'd better wait for it to start killing me to fight back"
lone crypt
Put a trike suggestion in, go look
barren zephyr
Sounds like someone got too close to a trike as a full juvi about to prog and suffered the consequences
violet magnet
@craggy jasper I take it you die to herbivores a lot?
craggy jasper
wow guys open a big bottle pls
never said that @nocturne blaze dont say things i didnt say
lone crypt
Hunting herbs in general is often a dangerous maneuver, let alone large herbs
nocturne blaze
You literally said a herbivore cant fight back unless the carnivore 3 calls
pseudo falcon
Tru
craggy jasper
where?
violet magnet
"Herbis should not attack until they get 3 called"
lone crypt
Maybe it’s the one with a shitbucket of negative reactions
umbral prairie
@lone crypt maybe with locational damage trike getting it's leg broken by rex will be harder anyways, plus I imagine trike being close to impossible to kill from the front anyway
craggy jasper
then read coreclty pls @nocturne blaze i just said they should not attack u randomly just when u walking by them on the other side of the hill and KOS you, thats what i meant, u get the chance and dictate to it, that they NEVER should fight back. Thats not what i said
pseudo falcon
There are tones of servers with your suggested rule.
lone crypt
that’s not at all what ya said
nocturne blaze
You should have said that then dude
barren zephyr
hahaha
pseudo falcon
Nycta has body drop and 3 call 4 call 6 call 69 call
All those rules you guys love
umbral prairie
do they still have no alt turn
violet magnet
"can't fight back or attack unless 3-call at least 3 times"
breh
lone crypt
Herbs should be able to attack whenever they feel like they need to, enough said.
pseudo falcon
Yeah, still no alt turn
lone crypt
Alt turn gonna be permanent anyways sooo
barren zephyr
you should give herbivores large areas when your a carnivore if you dont want to threaten them
lone crypt
/\
pseudo falcon
I will KoS whatever I can with Maia until affinity pops up
barren zephyr
ok now u
nocturne blaze
Its not hard to avoid herbivores most of the time
lone crypt
that’s called “being a douche”
craggy jasper
i never suggest anything anymore
umbral prairie
also herbis should be allowed to 'KOS' (hate that word) , if you're a carnivore juvie you might grow into a threat to them or their young so they have a reason to kill you
pseudo falcon
Your dilos dead kid
violet magnet
for one thing don't walk right next to OR RIGHT THROUGH a herd of herbis and expect them to not attack you
basics, dude
lone crypt
Exactly what i said, herbs should be able to attack whenever they feel like they need to or should
pseudo falcon
Haha jokes on you, they buffed maias turn aswell
barren zephyr
still i think dilo should get a glock so it can gat maias duh
#makenightsdarkagain
pseudo falcon
Lmao
violet magnet
i mean you can still suggest things, this channel is just for tearing apart the suggestions, don't take it personal
lone crypt
Exactly
umbral prairie
you can suggest things, just write them like you actually mean them because 'can't fight back until they get 3 called' specifically says they can not attack ever unless they are screamed at
violet magnet
allo ambushes a para
para literally cannot fight back because no 3 call
???
barren zephyr
find suggestions that got alot of support
and just re suggest
what the suggested
or be persistent
untill dilo gets buffed
dab
lone crypt
Or work off of popular suggestions that you hate, but other people love
Like I hate the idea of trike getting BB
barren zephyr
oh yea no
lone crypt
So I said “make it less prone to BB and bleed” instead
nocturne blaze
Trike getting BB wont solve anything, it'll just make a rex more likely to facetank it
lone crypt
Mmm
nocturne blaze
Break the rex's leg? Its got a better turn, and its just gonna break your leg and kill you
lone crypt
A broken leg Rex is one you don’t wanna mess with
Because they’re leg is already out
They’re not watching out anymore
They’re focused entirely on biting
You have to focus on more than just attacking
umbral prairie
trike should be able to bb once locational damage is in because it won't be able to bb when hitting the tail of something, but I think it should only be able to bb things smaller than it
ripe hull
dang am I the only one who loves the skin system
native cradle
I like the skin system, but I liked the old skins too
the skin system makes the dinosaurs unique
ripe hull
do you mean the ones back when we couldn’t change skins at all
violet magnet
i liked the old skins but not playing with the same one all the time
ripe hull
you can make similar skins to the original ones though
sacred wyvern
skin systme is fine
ripe hull
if that’s what people are upset about
sacred wyvern
just need pattern system tbh
ripe hull
ohh true
violet magnet
or just hit the reset button and play with the default skins
arctic sierra
Ooh yeah a pattern system
sacred wyvern
i got the skin of hypo carno but pattern isnt right fully
native cradle
By customization what do you mean? Like, creating your OWN skin from scratch or just choosing patterns?
Because if you could just make your own people could screw around with it lol
native cradle
Maybe set shapes such as dots and stripes could only be used?
instead of letting u draw or something
umbral prairie
I think making your own patterns is too much
barren zephyr
^
umbral prairie
even with set pattern parts
native cradle
^ I agree
barren zephyr
This god damn community cannot be trusted
umbral prairie
but multiple patterns would definitely be nice
native cradle
Personally I wouldn't rlly like it
umbral prairie
you could just make insanely ugly things
barren zephyr
It'd be more trouble than its worth @sacred wyvern
You have to make the skin fit correctly with every proportion with every dinosaur and their juvenile stages
native cradle
Ha ha lemme draw a- [REDACTED]
barren zephyr
^
Last thing I need to see is a pure white carno with a purple dick mark on the top of its head between the horns
sacred wyvern
noice
native cradle
Oh yeah, I can see that happening.
native cradle
Oh yeah.
barren zephyr
I can see the comedic value in that but its just not worth the trouble at all
violet magnet
somebody gonna draw a swastika on a giga or something
native cradle
A Galli with the words "T Rexes Suck" scrawled on it's sides
or something inappropriate
sacred wyvern
someone might draw all the organ parts
barren zephyr
Or the forbidden word none of us are allowed to say
violet magnet
Blue
barren zephyr
Even if we had the card it would not hold up in court
sacred wyvern
u cant be blue cuz blue was female
barren zephyr
And when I say 'card'
umbral prairie
maybe once modding is back there will be skin mods for making your own patterns, although I think it is very unlikely that you could even mod that
barren zephyr
Y'all should know what I mean
sacred wyvern
the night card 😉
barren zephyr
nice
but yeah, don't trust the community or other human beings one bit to have this freedom
native cradle
^^
barren zephyr
@echo zinc I posted this a while ago:
Take a look at the game ARMA, in the newbie settings there is a "situational awareness buff" - things and objects in hearing distance have an transparent aura/dot (for example white) on the edge of the screen - showing the direction its comming from.
I guess that's the only solution I can see - allthough it could be an unfair advance for players who are not deaf in the first place.
I guess you could force all sound off if this option is checked on.
native lava
Give us back pitch black nights, ppl keep using that windos gamma correction all the time to see at night especially at V3 map :/ dilos are useless now :/
umbral prairie
doesn't have to be the whole night, but at least about 15 minutes per night being completely black would be nice
native lava
yeah, middle part of the night should be pitch black and then it should keep getting brighter since 6 am for example
umbral prairie
@barren zephyr It's a cool creature but maybe it would help to make suggestions on what would make it different from other flyers (mechanic-or statswise)
because most creature suggestions suggest things I'm pretty sure the devs are aware of but they are not sure what would make them a unique and fun creature
outer nebula
@arctic nexus the utah's jump allows it to get away from carnivores or herbivores that want to kill it. its not exploiting its trying to survive
shell willow
@arctic nexus galli and dryo jump, they don’t pounce
outer nebula
and pacy
shell willow
And pachy^
torpid wedge
“suck it up utah mains”
wtf lol the utah is supposed to have its strength in agility
shell willow
Taking away Utah’s jump would be the death of the whole species 👌
arctic nexus
Agility can be used without Jumping. Take the new Ceratosaurus for example.
torpid wedge
and jump isn’t just an offensive ability, if can be used defensively to jump away from bites and over things
umbral prairie
@delicate depot why? it is there to prevent ass riding
torpid wedge
rethink what you’re suggesting lmao
arctic nexus
That's the main reason I dislike it. Utahs sit on rocks for hours on end.
I have thought about it, hence im suggesting it.
torpid wedge
???
shell willow
What agility??? The only “agility” in this game is run fast, turn good.
outer nebula
you do realize utah rock is gone
umbral prairie
there are other spots they use now
delicate depot
It's no use to disagree, it's too bad when you're killing another dinosaur and he's starting to use ALT.
arctic nexus
Waterfall Rapids are the new Utah hotspots.
umbral prairie
you want utahs solo killing rexes?
violet magnet
it's a game mechanic bro
umbral prairie
because the rex can't turn
violet magnet
used in the middle of a fight to prevent being assrode to death by a single allo
shell willow
At least they aren’t all in one place anymore. They’re more spread out across the map on rocks, rather than all gathering on one big rock.
delicate depot
Perhaps?
umbral prairie
maybe alt turn will be removed one locational damage is gone, because then ass riding won't be a thing
violet magnet
"it's too bad when you're killing another dinosaur and he's starting to use ALT"
well that's just too bad
umbral prairie
I think dinos should be able to turn on the spot, but with locational damage the turn speed could be slowed down for some creatures. plus alt turn needs an animation so nobody can use 'dinos aren't ballerinas' as an argument
pale prairie
@delicate depot the only reason alt turn is in the game to start with is to stop people from "assriding"
stopping things like cerato from easily murdering a rex with little to no effort
violet magnet
@analog ingot for which dino
analog ingot
Everything
umbral prairie
@shut field I'm pretty sure bb already scales with weight, I think this 'chance or breaking someones leg' system is a problem in general
pale prairie
what's the point?
shut field
AFAIK it's solely based on chance
umbral prairie
yeah maybe I remember it wrong, but I thought the chance scaled with weight
shell willow
Those dice must love ruining people’s days because I’ve never been bitten by a rex and not gotten a broken leg
shut field
It's nearly 70% chance or something dumb like that
sacred wyvern
what dino were u
arctic nexus
Does nobody actually think my suggestion is a good idea. What has the world come to.
shell willow
Common sense, apparently
umbral prairie
I think utah doesn't need a jump this high, but I don't really care
normal fern
It was a stupid suggestion
pale prairie
@arctic nexus i think it's a good idea in one way
i hate the fact utahs can just sit on big rocks and teabag while you watch them and start to starve.
on the other hand
utah needs to survive carno attacks somehow
analog ingot
Because F call being so loud is stupid. Friendly call can serve that purpose and everything else. I want to be able to chat to my herd/pack without them saying ''shh dont make sounds''
Also theres alot of people using VC, which is unfair.
@violet magnet
shell willow
Bruh if there are a ton of Utahs they’re just spawning ai for u lol
violet magnet
make pachy's jump as high as utah's so pachy gangs can get up on the rocks too
problem solved
normal fern
Then maybe nerf Utah hunger so Utah can't just camp a rock?
Then the pachies would just camp the rocks
arctic nexus
Remove all rocks from the isle.
shut field
Alternatively, give utahs something they could do. They're weak af
sacred wyvern
utahs are pretty good in packs
umbral prairie
or make it so you can't stick half your body inside a rock and instead fall on the ground when jumping against a rock face first
delicate depot
But at least the damage when using ALT TURN was reduced by at least 50% for a few seconds to not be so unfair.
empty junco
Utah doesn't really have much going for it stats wise other than jump. In every other area, another dino is better
umbral prairie
alt turn is not unfair
shut field
They're hell on wheels vs juvies tho
violet magnet
@delicate depot hwat?
umbral prairie
what is unfair about alt turn
shut field
Rexes, probably
violet magnet
alt turn is unfair because ya can't assride things to death like how the game should be played
/s
umbral prairie
ah ok, I forgot, what else should utahs be eating besides rex ass
sacred wyvern
utahs should be eating things like dryos and in big packs big herbivores
i dont see them killing big carnivores in big packs
violet magnet
or running in to attack things and it alt turns around to face/bite you
God forbid the thing you're hunting be able to counter
jolly willow
I will still never understand people who dislike alt turn
sacred wyvern
well
umbral prairie
I will never understand realism server owners using 'dinos are not ballerinas' as an argument
violet magnet
i will say that giga's alt turn is ridiculously fast right now but other than that, alt turn is fine
empty junco
For anyone that's played a utah, apex's and trikes are completely immune to you anyway. It's 500+ bites to kill a rex and thousands for a trike
I mean... good luck
delicate depot
ALT TURN could not be used in combat with at least some new game combat system where dinosaurs would not bite each other's butt. So Rexes would not have a problem with UtahRaptors
umbral prairie
of course you have to be patient if you want to assride a rex to death as a utah, but imagine being the rex running in circles for 20 minutes
empty junco
? you can't kill a rex as a utah anyway
violet magnet
but until the new combat system is in place, alt turn is gonna stay
lone crypt
Alt turn will be permanent, you know that, right?
empty junco
They just laydown and logoff
You literally have to stand there for 20 minutes and get assrode
barren zephyr
I thought Alt-turn was a temporarily workaround by the dev's 
minor basalt
but you have allos, ceratos, diablos, that can assride things easily
violet magnet
rex logs out while utah is buttriding it
utah: "COMBAT LOGGING REX REPORT"
umbral prairie
just wait for locational damage and let alt turn exist until then
empty junco
Nothing against combat logging on offical servers
Apex's can combat log vs all the mid tiers
sacred wyvern
well not everyone plays on officals
lone crypt
^^
empty junco
You just lay down, open the window and wait. Does matter what it is if it isn't a trike or another apex
you live
doesnt*
lone crypt
We have to treat gameplay mechanics and such as if they applied to all servers
sacred wyvern
like even as a carno because i can kill a cera on alt turn i dont mind it
ofc velocity dmg 1 shotting utahs for carnos ability mm
i luv
umbral prairie
@willow zealot I think deinosuchus should be able to regain stam when holding still in water tbh (maybe make it regen slower compared to the stam regen on land), like crocodiles today that just float with their body underwater and just the eyes above the surface
minor basalt
Alt turn is just a necessity atm
minor basalt
just because you can log doesn't change anything lol
sacred wyvern
no alt turn means hypos are gonna get ass bitten by anything
and the big hypos cant really escape unless its an open field
because no way its fitting in a forest
willow zealot
@umbral prairie yeah that makes more since
barren zephyr
Alt-turn kinda takes the usefullnes of even programming normal turnradius away..so I have the feeling it's not here to stay.
sacred wyvern
not really but i get what u mean in continueous fighting
ambush wise radius counts
barren zephyr
Something that powerfull as a hypo, should have somekind of weakspot, it has to be killed somehow
True
clever leaf
Alt turn is needed until we have shit like trampling/collision in
If you removed alt turn in the current state, youre basically just causing assbiting galore
and making utah players go erect
barren zephyr
Heh
mystic kestrel
@willow zealot tribals
have torches
mercs have flashlight
if u use torch at night u are fucked
dondi showed it a while back
its in game
willow zealot
How long ago?
willow zealot
Oof that long
mystic kestrel
like if at night
u are a raptor
on some hill
u really will see the torch
from faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar
away
arctic nexus
@steady solar. But why?
steady solar
it would add more variety and a bit more realism to gameplay
as you would have one more thing to worry about (as animals do in the wild)
shell willow
Do people in this server have a fetish??? Wtf is all these people asking for dinos to shit and piss everywhere
arctic nexus
Perhaps the 5 yr old population remains active?
shell willow
Just use the pheromones idea pff
steady solar
no man I actually mean what I'm saying that it can add a new layer of depth to gameplay
shell willow
But why?
arctic nexus
I like the pheromone idea.
shell willow
There’s no good reason to have to shit your guts out as part of the game wtf
steady solar
it could make things more exciting that's why
arctic nexus
Do you really want to see a dinosaur taking one?
umbral prairie
how is it exciting
violet magnet
kinkshame
shell willow
How is that more exciting
barren zephyr
nah,,
shell willow
HAHAHA
umbral prairie
to press a button
arctic nexus
Do you really?
barren zephyr
@steady solar why do u like shit so much
steady solar
the additional challenge
umbral prairie
and watch your dino shit on the ground
steady solar
this is the literal first time I mentioned this on any discord server, let alone this one
arctic nexus
I bought the Isle just to make a dinosaur take a dump.
umbral prairie
why is it a challenge?
arctic nexus
I mean, it isn't the first time we've seen that idea. Just it seems unnecessary.
steady solar
bc it leaves scent behind
umbral prairie
you have to watch the ground because you might step into dino feces?
shell willow
Pheromones!! It’s so much simpler than pissing everywhere!!
violet magnet
inb4 a rex pack makes a circle of shit around a herbi herd and the herd can't leave without getting debuffed
arctic nexus
We are The Isle community, here to destroy your dinosaur dreams.
steady solar
yes and then a giga smells you as you're hiding in a bush and kills you bc you stepped in smelly shit
sacred wyvern
and to tell other predators that big boi is there
arctic nexus
@violet magnet I'm laughing man.
arctic nexus
Imagine half way through taking a shit, and a Rex jumps you.
violet magnet
male dinos sniffing poop to see if a female dino is nearby and wanna smash
barren zephyr
bruh
violet magnet
realism
umbral prairie
I've seen many suggestions on marking territory and I really don't see why you would do that, potential prey will avoid this area and potential predators know there is prey around
steady solar
I can't deny it seems rather strange, but I'm actually serious about this
shell willow
DOnDi wE NeEd ToiLeTS So ApExEs StOp ShiTTinG oN Us
arctic nexus
The suggestion channel exists purely so we can have conversations like this.
violet magnet
shit on all the rocks so utahs cant sit on them
minor basalt
Foot prints leave scent already, having poop for scent alone is pretty useless
steady solar
that's why you'd need to worry about where to take a dump so that other animals would not see it as much, so they wouldn't know you're there
minor basalt
And there's other ways to leave scent markers other than poop
shell willow
Footprint scent = piss smoke
arctic nexus
violet magnet
imagine having to walk a mile away from your preferred spot to take a dump just so other things won't be able to sniff and find out where you are
steady solar
and the footprint scent is pretty small compared to a pile of shit
umbral prairie
it would not compromise you location if you take a dump somewhere because your footprints already do, if anything I would shit onto a corpse that is too small for me to eat it so smaller predators step into it trying to eat
steady solar
well if you really wanna you can
arctic nexus
When you gotta go, you gotta go. Else debuffs.
steady solar
but footprint don't stay for very long and I imagine shit would
shell willow
BUT WHY
barren zephyr
i dont get it
violet magnet
footprints stay for four minutes
shell willow
it doesn’t need to exist please my lungs hurt
steady solar
I mean have you tried holding it in for 5 hours straight?
umbral prairie
how would it compromise your location if somebody can smell where you've been 20 minutes ago
violet magnet
bruh
it's a game
shell willow
@steady solar I can hold it for 8 but it doesn’t matter because it’s a fuckin game!!
steady solar
it doesn't need too, but I feel like it's still a valid suggestion
arctic nexus
Does that mean we could see Mercenaries randomly shitting from a Helicopter onto a Trex?
shell willow
Yes
violet magnet
fun fact the average human shits two pounds every day, imagine what an 8 ton tyrannosaur would do
arctic nexus
The isle. A happy place.
steady solar
dude NOTHING needs to exist. I'm saying it has the potential to add a lot to the game if it does exist
shell willow
No it doesn’t
arctic nexus
I mean. It could be an emote?
steady solar
I just explained why it does
shell willow
NO
violet magnet
💩
steady solar
it can actually have a purpose in gameplay
arctic nexus
The Isle: Shitting Evolved.
umbral prairie
it really does not have the potential to add a lot besides weird scent marks that don't help at all because even if it lasts long you could be anywhere by the time somebody smells it
shell willow
That will be the most terrifying emote in the world
steady solar
then the smell could get weaker the longer the pile lies on the ground
umbral prairie
hey, lets make it so dinos can shit into dryo burrows so their feces can't be smelled by other dinos
shell willow
But yeah that feature would open a gateway for kinky dinos to have themselves shitting on each other and uhhh
steady solar
as in a newly shat shit will smell WAY more than one that's been there for even 5 minutes
violet magnet
how would it help with tracking anyway
like would our dinos just leave a stream of diarrhea behind as they walked instead of one big pile every now and then or
arctic nexus
Shit into Dryo burrows so the Dryo can't get out.
steady solar
why do people automatically assume it's a kink thing????????
arctic nexus
Is it?
violet magnet
unless there's some way to determine what dino left the big pile behind it'd be pretty pointless
shell willow
Because it is to a lot of people lol
shell willow
Utah shit party
violet magnet
🤢
violet magnet
"shit on the rock"
steady solar
there is a shit KINK
violet magnet
"CLAIM IT AS UTAH ROCK"
steady solar
ok now I'm gonna throw up
violet magnet
||scat||
umbral prairie
it is, sadly
arctic nexus
Can you imagine a Mercenary submarine, watching the island from a distance. What does it see? A Rex taking a shit on a taco burrow.
steady solar
what the everloving fuck
violet magnet
do urself a favor and dont fucking google it
steady solar
believe me I won't
arctic nexus
Perhaps we should end this conversation here.
shell willow
No I love this this is great good laugh
steady solar
also with which dino leaves the pile the pile sizes could vary
violet magnet
rex shitting in burrow through binoculars
http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/mog1.gif
steady solar
another thing
shell willow
Naruto running Utahs diarrhea launching themselves
steady solar
although it is DISCUSTING juvies could hide in the piles (think I saw that in a documentary)
shell willow
Wh y
violet magnet
rex does the naruto run
arctic nexus
Dryo running from a utah leaving a light brown trail behind it.
steady solar
to hide I guess????
shell willow
Dinos shit themselves near apexes causing a speed buff 😂
steady solar
more like going back to normal speed after lying there for 2 hours
arctic nexus
Power of adrenaline.
umbral prairie
isn't there a mechanic where a rex call causes your human character to shit himself
violet magnet
dryo 4-calls, shits, runs away
-10 affinity on utah that was chasing it
barren zephyr
@arctic nexus What made you think the devs should remove Utah jump?
arctic nexus
@barren zephyr Utahs sat on rocks teabagging at me for half an hour.
steady solar
still though this hasn't shown me that my idea is useless
umbral prairie
but I think of it when someone makes a dino feces suggestiong
outer nebula
so basically he is salty he cant kill an utah
valid flower
Lmao
arctic nexus
That's about it, yeah.
barren zephyr
Docjay stop, that is harsh but lmao
valid flower
I mean Utah’s are weak af so yeah
barren zephyr
They are.
arctic nexus
I don't mind being toxic about em.
barren zephyr
Anything higher than utah one shot em
arctic nexus
Ceratosaurus requires two hits.
barren zephyr
Basically.
Utahs are forced to run away, therefore the bleed should be enough to kill em.
What would happen if a galli would step into rex shit..and run around... desception? 
shell willow
“Mommy, there’s a monster under my bed!”
“No there isn’t sweety.”
“Can you check?”
looks under the bed
”I main utah”
minor basalt
yes
barren zephyr
not enought oofs
arctic nexus
Oof my arse.
barren zephyr
I mean, I suggested something for every time I got mad at someone or couldn't kill em.
Utah mains could be like nerf rex's hp I can't end their life.
Or you know any other dino it is not mid tier.
shell willow
Utha neede moar powar!! Nurf rex plz!!!!!1!
violet magnet
@humble tendon how 'bout nah
spino's ambush is really fuckin' fast already, ambush with it
shell willow
Im gonna cry
violet magnet
uh have you seen a spino ambush
violet magnet
are you like running across fields at things and expecting them to wait around until you get there
umbral prairie
I imagined spino (when they rework it) to be too slow to chase other apexes but very hard to kill because of weight health and maybe a claw attack? bite could be fast and low damage and claws could be slow and high damage
humble tendon
No sammel they shouldnt do that
violet magnet
what then
umbral prairie
why not
minor basalt
And some kind of water advantage
humble tendon
YES
umbral prairie
and spino should have the ability to fish
minor basalt
just like less stam drain in water or slight speed
humble tendon
Actually u true gri
rain magnet
It’d be more equipped for fishing than fighting other apexes, so it’d prob be the easiest to survive with bc u have a constant food source
umbral prairie
but not be as focused on fishing as sucho
humble tendon
Yes its good but stam bad
I just say he need better stam
But changed it on the conversation at one moment lmao mb
Need stam for swimming too. U right sammel
It cant swim lel
umbral prairie
I've posted this picture before, it's not mine, but I think this would be a good pose for spino so it doesn't look as front heavy as other spino artworks and the body shape still seems scientifically accurate. This would also allow for claw attacks
I mean this just looks like the spino would fall over imo
steady solar
hence some believe in quadruped spino
umbral prairie
yeah I think there are new studies on spino having some bone (I forgot the name) that made it not possible that spino could walk on all fours
not sure on that though
umbral prairie
yeah I guess
I won't discuss about spino there because there were so many spino discussions there though
unborn quail
The paleo community in general hates talking about spinosaurus
Its a mess of a dinosaur
clear turret
I love talking about it
the ones who dont are the pissbabies who dont like that their JP3 wet dream got irl nerfed
unborn quail
That's, not at all the reason but okay.
hasty parcel
barren zephyr
Conversations on spino tend to get very heated based on the fact that its a broken jigsaw puzzle that just wont have pieces put together, arguing about whos opinion is right and wrong
unborn quail
^
barren zephyr
essentially "Flame War: The Fossil"
candid fiber
Blame the allies.
leaden night
ebon lion
@desert prairie we have been respawning :'D
the issue is that regardless of how often you respawn there's not a clear indication of distance
i'll admit i'm newer to the game so i don't have the maps on the back of my palm yet but i think it's still worth adding something to cushion how harsh it is
ebon lion
👌 no rush, no obligations, thats good to know though
barren zephyr
@ebon lion maybe the posibility to "suicide" and respawn together as juvi?
Guess there must be a timer for that.. or like the first spawning in not moving more then 10m from spawn otherwise the second cant spawn in ..but i guess people allways find a way to abuse the shit out of stuff
ebon lion
it's weird because we'll both suic and try to respawn but we might just have shit luck, we're almost always on opposite sides
regal pecan
theres a live map of the island?
desert prairie
ye
barren zephyr
@ebon lion na I ment as suggestion for the devs
desert prairie
open sedge
How about this? Spinosaurus in The Isle could spend most of its time on all fours but be able to rear up to use its claws. It could be able to trot and sprint on all fours, but not start sprinting on two legs. However, it could be able to press space to transition to two legs while it's sprinting, decreasing speed slightly and enabling the use of its claws, but costing more stamina. Ambush speed could be on two legs. When the new water system is added, Spinosaurus and other swimmers should be able to steer with the mouse underwater but should be also be able to hold a button to lock their depth, enabling them to look around without affecting their position. Spinosaurus and other stealth swimmers could also sprint swim and stealth swim, enabling them to perform ambushes from the water.
hasty parcel
All fours won't be happening
open sedge
Why not?
hasty parcel
Because it has been disproven
open sedge
Really? When?
hasty parcel
It wouldn't actually be capable of walking on all fours
Something regarding missing a bone needed for that
open sedge
Ok. I still say that it needs to use its claws, though.
hasty parcel
I would like to see it use its claws, yes
hasty parcel
I don't have a link to the source specifically, but others have talked about it, you'll have to ask some others in #paleotalk for it
open sedge
Ok, thanks
open sedge
Well, they should. The Ultimate Dinosaur Game without big sauropods is like a pizza without sauce.
hasty parcel
Brachio will be AI in survival and likely playable in Sandbox, that's the closest we'll get
open sedge
They should keep the Pue. I got a lot of reasons for it that I'm gonna post in a bit on the suggestions stream.
desert prairie
its an old model from the stomping lands
thats why they are removing the pue and replacing it with brachi
open sedge
Well, then make a new model
desert prairie
Thats the brachi
They already said the reason why sauropods wont fit in this game
They are massive, they eat a ton, they are slow as hell so getting anywhere would be boring and hard
open sedge
Brachiosaurus and Puertasaurus are too different to be swapped with one another. They could just make their own Pue and add the Brachi, too.
desert prairie
but they wont
desert prairie
Because pue as a juvi would be so useless it would rival juvi/sub trike for the most useless challenge
open sedge
Well, then they should be made a bit faster. Not as fast as other dinosaurs, but fast enough to travel. And/or they could have them spawn near their preferred habitats.
desert prairie
make a sauropod a bit faster
pulsar lake
Juv have a fast growth and good little speed
desert prairie
thats what cama is
open sedge
Camara is small
desert prairie
Its as close as you will get
They are not going to add a massive dino to grow in 6 hours that can 1-2 shot dinos
open sedge
The point of juvies is not to compete with other animals of similar size. It's to survive long enough until they can grow.
desert prairie
you forgetting there is carnivores in the game?
open sedge
Well, that is disappointing. I guess this is not going to be the ultimate dinosaur game like they planned.
open sedge
Yes there are carnivores. Sauropods could be good for those players who love to be tanks with a lot of health, and juvies could be faster than adults or be able to defend themselves.
desert prairie
If you want an ultimate dinosaur game wait till path of titans comes out
pulsar lake
It's easy to do some survival sauropode.
Juv to sub is easy and short. When you grow up you get a big buff, similar stats than diablo or para but he can defend herself to Cerato, allo carno and this will be long to be able to defend yourself to apex but you can do something.
And adult you are just like invincible, only hypo can kill you or big apex pack
open sedge
That's what they planned when they made this game. It seems like that won't happen though.
desert prairie
No developer in their right mind will add a dino that is invincible
Pue is already busted as it is, the only thing that can kill it is another pue
pulsar lake
A pue, a brachi was invincible when he get adult
desert prairie
open sedge
A giant sauropod should not be invincible.
desert prairie
No it cant
open sedge
Carnosaurs like Allosaurus and Giganotosaurus should be able to bring down sauropods more efficiently than other predators, like in real life.
desert prairie
It took 20 minutes for 4 rexes to kill a pue on sandbox
desert prairie
then what point would there be to grow a sauropod
pulsar lake
Or 30k hp
pulsar lake
Be fast when you are juv
desert prairie
Lol
open sedge
Rexes should be bad against sauropods because they're slow and their damage was focused on the bone. Sauropods have bones that are too big to break
desert prairie
All im gonna say is, don't cling to the hope they will get added. Cama is the closest thing that will be there.
pulsar lake
Like 1 hours
open sedge
The point of some sauropods could be to just be sauropods. It's not like people will never play them.
umbral prairie
rexes should not be able to hunt things like brachi, but I could see a rex killing a camara if it gets the neck somehow
desert prairie
If rexes cant hunt it then what can
umbral prairie
bleeders
open sedge
Yeah
pulsar lake
Rex hunted Alamosaurus
umbral prairie
not solo, but a pack of gigas should be able to bleed out a brachi
pulsar lake
Yes
umbral prairie
of course they need to be careful and patient
pulsar lake
It's hunt
open sedge
No it didn't. A T. rex wouldn't have bothered with sauropods because it wasn't designed to hunt them.
umbral prairie
will brachi have a sitting animation? because I would imagine sauropods needing some time to be brought to max bleed but have terrible bleed heal unless sitting, if brachi gets a sitting animation like camara
pulsar lake
I'll go sleep.
I want to talk but I can't.
Bye, have a good discussion
open sedge
Ambush and use hit-and run tactics. That's why super-fast attacks like Camara's tail whip are unfair. If a predator sticks around to brawl with a bigger, heavier, stronger animal, then it will just get killed. But if a predator can damage muscles and flesh very effectively, outmaneuver its prey, and bleed it out, then you have the perfect recipe for a Colossus Slayer.
Thus, bleeders.
About the different food sources that was posted a while ago, I think it would be great for certain animals to be able to bore for insects in wood or termite mounds. This would open up new niches for completely new dinosaurs, like Epidexipteryx and Alvarezsaurus. Alvarezsaurus could be an omnivore that can eat many things, including insects from wood or termite mounds (using its singular claws). Epidexipteryx could only be able to eat insects from wood, but could climb trees. Enabling certain animals to climb trees would open up a whole new ecosystem for more animals, such as Microraptor.
umbral prairie
I'm not entirely sure but I think there was some talk about herrera getting a climbimg mechanic
open sedge
Interesint
*Interesting
I think that would be cool. However, other tree-dwellers could make a food source for tree predators, like Herrerasaurus, Microraptor, or Sinornithosaurus
The thing is with the gameplay issues is that we don't need to be so worried. As long as an animal isn't completely boring to all or completely broken, there will always be people who play as it for the pure sake of playing as that animal.
Thus, playable sauropods
echo zinc
@barren zephyr still doesn't do anything. But I had a good discussion with others through.
open sedge
Ok
barren zephyr
i would limit to 3, a fishe, scevenger, grasser
open sedge
Huh?
barren zephyr
thats too many fliers, and each needs to be unique to be playable
also some are too small
open sedge
I just said how those would all be unique
Anurognathus may be too small but not Rhampho
barren zephyr
if its smaller then dryo then its not good
open sedge
Well, all of those pterosaurs have bodies no bigger than Dryo
Maybe except Quetz
Why does size matter with a pterosaur?
barren zephyr
cause the devs wont bother with small things as playables, like velociraptor
open sedge
Why not?
barren zephyr
cause its a pain for them and they dont want it, why do you think avaceratops and velociraptor are ai
open sedge
Maybe the tiny pterosaurs could be playable in sandbox then, and ai otherwise
Or maybe one of the wall-clingers is big enough
barren zephyr
youre idea just would not work
open sedge
Maybe not
But other large pterosaurs like Tapejara and Ornithocheirus should be added, with those abilities I mentioned
barren zephyr
Tapejara maybe, but i dought Ornithocheirus will ever be added
It is not really unique enought
Also tapejara ability seems useless
open sedge
I disagree
hollow ibex
Pterosaurs being able to grasp stuff really needs to stop.
Anuro is a horrible fit for the game.
Tape...I guess? But IIRC they show signs of being omnivorous or even herbivorous
Ornitho is just a large pteranodon, for Pteranodon in game pretty sure it's planned to be like a vulture pelican hybrid
keen trail
@steady solar your suggestion would ruin sneaky pack hunts because when a player can all of the sudden run faster they know whats up.
pseudo falcon
Making Tapejara a herbivorous flyer would be great
@clever wigeon Dinos make a quiet but notable noise when they're hit. If you play a Juvi and hit someone willing you'll know what I mean. Its a nice subtle yelp most of the time.
clever wigeon
I may have to mess with my sound then, i'm never able to super hear it :o
pseudo falcon
Yeah try that out.
desert prairie
wtf is that latest suggestion lmao
edgy furnace
@barren zephyr i understand the point of the suggestion but maybe pick something less weird
limpid dove
@warm jasper This is from your herbivore sniffing while walking - I've made the suggestion in the past and a dev actually responded, saying something along the lines of: herbivore food isnt on the move and stays still, but carnivore food never stops moving and therefore need to track footprints
shell willow
@barren zephyr Velociraptor AI does that job fairly well. I'm not totally sure of the effectiveness but it definitely poses a challenge. We don't need... more shit suggestions.
limpid dove
while it would be a nice feature, it really makes no sense to allow herbivores to sniff food while walking. bushes dont run away from you lol
shell willow
That's like the second one today
edgy furnace
seriously though whats with all the dinosaurs taking dumps suggestions
no one wants that
sage juniper
because there needs to be some way to track people that just sit still for 8 hours
if you sit under a tree you are essentially invisible, for those out hunting it can take forever to run into a dino since everyone is jsut growing like potatoes
only ever moving from their trees to drink or eat
limpid dove
dondi has mentioned in the past somethin about dinosaur crap and it never came back up
and suddenly everyone is interested into the bottom half of their dinosaur when it comes to tracking.
viral creek
Ok let's be real
pale prairie
don was joking about dinosaurs "craping" iirc
viral creek
I think that suggestion is a joke
viral creek
That's what I thought
warm jasper
@limpid dove thank you! sorry I just saw to many other people whineing about it, but never asking. I personallt don't mind either way
limpid dove
yeah, ive wanted it in the past as well but it really does make more sense - herbivore food stay. carnivore food move.
lol
edgy furnace
”mild diarrhea”
barren zephyr
Please, please, PLEASE. Do NOT add pooping to this game. Why would ANYONE want that?
edgy furnace
Why would you not want it
Jk
Devs won’t add poop they’re not weirdos
Like the people who suggested it
oblique crown
So many shit and piss fetishists in suggestions.🤢
torpid wedge
i dont see why peeing or pooping is necessary
could just be a brighter color/seen from farther away if something stays in a spot for 30+ minutes or if you want to mark something maybe just rub against it for a scent marker
the diarrhea suggestion makes me 
spiral pond
Fuck it lets just add malaria along with it
Also cold and flu
So we have even more furries
barren zephyr
Apex reaching adulthood, oh no I have a terminal illness
violet magnet
dino gets the flu
some specific food they have to eat to heal
"ThE bLuE PLanTS cAuSe AuTiSm"
tame bane
You beat me to it, Grievous
spiral pond
tHe BlUe PlAnTs HaVe MeRcUrY aNd ArE dRuGs FoR mY bAbY uTaHs
burnt lodge
But I thought mercury does a body good? 🤔
regal pecan
That diarrhea suggestion just made me cry from laughing to much, this community sometimes
still temple
What’s with the poop suggestions lately, makes me think there’s a secret scat fetish community in TI
shell willow
Probably.
quartz nimbus
I've played enough ARK to not want poop in another dinosaur game.
serene hull
Mild diarrhea. Please be more specific on flowrate and consistency, we don't want to cause balance problems.
arctic nexus
Dude.
barren zephyr
@floral plover No it doesn't Pachy can outrun Allos and Ceratos and it can fight pretty decently against Carnos and absolutley ruins Utahs and Dilos
barren zephyr
Don't play on a no alt server then
floral plover
Lol srsly.
lilac swallow
Pachy at least need some bleed resistance but no more
floral plover
Dinos are suppose to be strong without that.
Bleed resistance could work.
But I still stand with what I said.
lilac swallow
Dinos are just balanced around alt turn
floral plover
The fact that it can be bit once and then it would die from bleed.
Specially it's horrible bleed heal.
barren zephyr
Different level bleeds please.
I agree that it needs a bleed res buff but nothing more
floral plover
Dinos are not suppose to be balanced around alt turn that's just stupid.
barren zephyr
They are
lilac swallow
@floral plover thats who the game works stupid or not
floral plover
Alt turn isn't skill.
Legendary, when the game first came out it didn't need no alt turn for everything to kill anything.
barren zephyr
It's in the game for a reason
floral plover
Alt turn is to prevent assriding until they add in something to prevent that.
So not alt turn is not the future's game.
Not every server uses alt turn.
Cause alt turn is stupid IMO.
lilac swallow
Alt turn makes growing a 7 hour dino worth because a 1 hour dino shouldnt ass ride you to death
barren zephyr
^
floral plover
Why does Utah and Dilo had godly turn, but Pachy doesn't.
I agree with Pachy's turn.
But it does need a weight buff or a dmg buff.
barren zephyr
ALT TURN*
floral plover
Cause getting hit by a Pachy as a Carno is suppose to knock u over.
Stop saying alt turn.
lilac swallow
Lets continue with pachy
floral plover
That's what I'm doing?
barren zephyr
The game is balanced around alt turn and you've already said your on a server without alt turn so saying Pachy needs a damage and weight buff is dumb
lilac swallow
Pachy either need just bleed resistance or make it more like a mini brawler reducibg its speed but also giving it more hp and health, but with It actual speed a buff beyond bleed resistance is making It op
floral plover
No it isn't Philip no it isn't.
barren zephyr
Yes it is
floral plover
If it doesn't have bb it needs it's dmg or weight buff.
barren zephyr
Pachy is great rn
floral plover
U serious rn?
floral plover
Okay lol I'm not gonna argue with u, that was my opinion if u don't like, I'm not forcing u to, cause all ur gonna say is "Alt turn"
One bite from a Carno or a DIlo and it's dead.
3 Bites from a Utah and it's dead.
barren zephyr
lilac swallow
I have a pachy right now, that pachy has faced a juv rex an allo, several adultbrex a carno and a dilo i think is fine
floral plover
There is something nowadays called ppl with skill.
So I'm not gonna argue with u, since u will keep saying "Alt turn" which is stupid really, cause again alt turn is not the future's game.
barren zephyr
There is something nowadays called people not using alt turn and being children about it
lilac swallow
There is no skill neither in alt turn and ass riding, so i prefer alt turn since it gives the big guy the advantage and help you dont falling from cliffs
barren zephyr
Because they think alt turn is unfair when in reality it's very balanced
lilac swallow
And im utah main so im not being a biased apex player
jovial moss
As a pachy main, the biggest problem is the bleed. Pachy pops like a balloon. If pachy had a much much better resistance and heal to bleed then you could stand up long enough to fend off the things bleeding you. I also don't think it needs a damage increase, but having an advantage like bleed (like bone break) would make it a lot better because that is what it's supposed to do (I play on both types of servers)
floral plover
Pachy needs a bleed heal buff, bleed resis buff, and hp buff.
And it should be good.
barren zephyr
Also Dark alt turn is gonna continue being in the game so get used to it
floral plover
No it wont.
lilac swallow
@jovial moss true a once got bitten by a juv rex(who deals like 0 bleed) and almost bleed out
barren zephyr
Yes it will
floral plover
U could ask a dev.
I play this game since release, and when they released alt turn they did say, this game wont have alt turn forever.
jovial moss
I was bitten by a herrera and nearly harrassed to death by the bleed which is so stupid
floral plover
Sorry to disappoint u :/
barren zephyr
They have confirmed alt turn will continue being in the game
floral plover
Proof?
lilac swallow
You know who many times they change their mind?
barren zephyr
^
floral plover
I'm pretty sure Ik.
lilac swallow
And im a player since release too, and being bitten to death by something 10 times smaller than you isnt neither fair nor funny nor skilled
jovial moss
Alt turn is not unfair dude, it's just a game mechanic like everything else
barren zephyr
DarkBeauty may i ask do you play on Risen Realism?
jovial moss
Though it could use some balancing maybe
lilac swallow
You shouldnt need to get rid of It because It shouldnt be able to attack you in first place, i repeat a 1 hour dino shouldnt never have a remote chance of killing a 7 hour one
floral plover
No I do not Philip, and bringing up server's names just to trash them is not cool eithe.
Either*
U should know better.
If the 7 hour dino sucks at playing the game it really deserves to die :/
lilac swallow
@floral plover being ass biten isnt sucking
shut gale
ass biting is cheap if the attacked can't do anything against it
floral plover
Alt turn is cheap and unfair.
shut gale
dark if you fight 3 utahs as 1 rex how do you stop them from getting in ur ass?
floral plover
Again this suggestion is not about alt turning, it's about Pachy.
shut gale
oh
floral plover
........
lilac swallow
Yes because a rex can out stam or out run or out turn a utah oh wait It cant
shut gale
this is my opinion on how to fix the pachy:
Speed: decrease from 40.1 to 38 km/h
Weight: increase from 1300 to 1600 kg
Bleed heal: increase to 30 / 35 needs tweaking
Bleed Resistance: great sitting / great standing / great trotting / good spriting
jovial moss
Maybe move this argument to isle discussion? So you don't bury the actual suggestion
floral plover
Doesn't need a speed decrease lol.
floral plover
Yes it does.
shut gale
tell me why
lilac swallow
@shut gale inwould like them tonmake pachy a mini brawler, slower but stronger
floral plover
Allos will catch up to it if it goes to 30
So will everything else.
So u wanna do another Para incident to it?
shut gale
@lilac swallow thats what it woulld be
jovial moss
I prefer 40km, if anything dilo needs a speed increase more than pachy needs a speed decrease
shut gale
dark it saays 38
barren zephyr
It doesn't need anything at the moment except a better bleed res.
jovial moss
^
shut gale
@jovial moss if you increase dilos speed you need to increase utah speed too
floral plover
Funsu, it literally takes forever to heal the pachy's bleed.
lilac swallow
@barren zephyr true but i still prefer the mini brawler ideaa
barren zephyr
If you die to a Dilo and a Utah on a no alt server you just suck
shut gale
it fixes that..
floral plover
I agree with u Philip but IMO it takes a lot of dmg from one bite.
shut gale
3 mins you fully heal 90 bleed
floral plover
No not really Philip.
barren zephyr
Maybe because it's a small-tier and not a mid-tier
floral plover
Cause Pachy takes one bite to die from bleed from a Dilo/Carno/Allo.
jovial moss
Being able to outspeed giga is my main concern, if the speed drops too low it'll get a lot harder to survive with the apex problem rn
barren zephyr
Dark Pachies are faster then Dilo
shut gale
you can eve 2v1 utahs
floral plover
Uhh no lol? Pachies are suppose to fuck up and injure things when they headbutt them.
shut gale
even *
if it had those stats
floral plover
I would agree on Bleed heal/Bleed resis buff.
shut gale
weight would increase its HP and damage
floral plover
Or HP buff/Bleed heal buff
shut gale
it needs it since it only has 100 weight on the dilo currently..
shut gale
i don't agree that the pachy should be faster than the dilo... so...
floral plover
It isn't faster.
jovial moss
it is
shut gale
currently it is
floral plover
Hm.
shut gale
pachy is 40km/h
dilo is 39km/h
floral plover
Well that's kinda stupid but okay.
floral plover
But all Dilo needs to do is bite it once, and the Pachy can't chase anymore.
For now.
shut gale
ik
floral plover
Until they do something to the Pachy.
floral plover
I meant as in it sucks as a herbivore.
lilac swallow
@floral plover ye they are botht worse maia
floral plover
Cause they nerfed Para to the ground and broke it's hitbox.
Maias are stronger than Paras lol.
With Speed, Bleed heal, Dmg.
shut gale
Maias are another ... uh... thing
lilac swallow
I meant both no not
floral plover
Huh?
shut gale
the kos gods atm 😂
lilac swallow
Idk who i misspelled
floral plover
And they really need to fix the hitboxes.
shut gale
it doesn't have anythiung that can hunt it....
jovial moss
just buff the bleed resistance plz
shut gale
besides the carnos..
lilac swallow
@floral plover funnyly enought these 3 are my main dinos
shut gale
you seem a bit bias towards them x)
floral plover
But I main theri the most, since it's not in survival, I main Maia.
shut gale
no offense..
jovial moss
trike is awful in its tier right now
shut gale
yeah i kind of figured that x)
floral plover
Lol.
lilac swallow
@jovial moss trike with It hit box is awful at every tier
barren zephyr
Dark what is your suggestion cause i can't read it without having a stroke
floral plover
Trike literally misses every attack, Galli and Para too.
"Make make Pachy have a Bleed heal/Bleed resis Buff or HP/Bleed heal buff or Weight/Bleed Heal buff or Dmg/Bleed resis buff." ...
lilac swallow
At least galli dobt need to attack
floral plover
Wha?
barren zephyr
floral plover
Philip just stop lol.
shut gale
well the problem dark is it needs Weight + bleed heal + bleed resist
x)
not just 2...
or its gonna stay bad...
floral plover
Yeaaah.
jovial moss
buff 👏 my 👏 main 👏
shut gale
and if it gets all those buffs then it runs down all the dilos withotu dying
lilac swallow
@shut gale and i would say redicing 2 km/h
floral plover
Not if Dilos get a speed buff.
lilac swallow
We are in a moment that instead of speeding down some dinos we just speed up everyone
jovial moss
just make dilo 41 lol
shut gale
it gets too close to utahs then....
jovial moss
45 for utah
floral plover
Oh god no.
jovial moss
LOL
jovial moss
replace utah with herrera
shut gale
xD
lilac swallow
Just speed down pachy and problem solved instead of speeding up 3 dinos
shut gale
yeah dragon.. its the simpler choice
and it won't hurt the pachy if it gets all those buffs
floral plover
But if ur gonna speed down pachy ur gonna need to buff the weight, the resis, the heal.
lilac swallow
@floral plover thats what we are saying
shut gale
it needs both the buffs to be good and the nerf to not be op
floral plover
Time to redit my suggestion ^.^
lilac swallow
Getting rid of the runer pachy, we have enought runers
jovial moss
It just needs to be fast enough to yeet away from apexes and im ok
lilac swallow
@jovial moss and mid tiers too or it is doomed
shut gale
or at least thats how i think it should be...
jovial moss
ye
lilac swallow
Pachy should be the slowest low tier but still faster than mid tiers
shut gale
pretty much