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restive mesa Feb 28, 2019, 9:26 AM

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They should be messing things up

viral creek Feb 28, 2019, 9:26 AM

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Is gross

restive mesa Feb 28, 2019, 9:27 AM

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Spino loses to giga currently

viral creek Feb 28, 2019, 9:27 AM

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Shant gives me ptsd

restive mesa Feb 28, 2019, 9:27 AM

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Why's that?

silver dagger Feb 28, 2019, 9:27 AM

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Shants shouldn't ever be in Survival at least.

viral creek Feb 28, 2019, 9:27 AM

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Shants could 1 shot apexes and run them down back in the day

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And took nothing to grow

restive mesa Feb 28, 2019, 9:27 AM

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Cant anymore

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nah

viral creek Feb 28, 2019, 9:27 AM

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Y e s t h e y c a n

barren zephyr Feb 28, 2019, 9:28 AM

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Make private good = take carebear rules out, take p2w and global chat and keep pack limits = perfectooo

viral creek Feb 28, 2019, 9:28 AM

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Evil beings

restive mesa Feb 28, 2019, 9:28 AM

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I agree take P2W out

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but, global stays

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lol

barren zephyr Feb 28, 2019, 9:28 AM

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I used Shants in a deathmatch server..it 2 shot a giga..logic

violet magnet Feb 28, 2019, 9:28 AM

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down with P2W

silver dagger Feb 28, 2019, 9:28 AM

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I actually liked strict realism rules like Rogue used to have, but that was back when there were stat mods.

viral creek Feb 28, 2019, 9:29 AM

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Shants are disgusting creatures that should stay in the depths of hell where they belong

restive mesa Feb 28, 2019, 9:29 AM

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IT WEIGHS 12 TONS WHY WOULD IT NOT?

viral creek Feb 28, 2019, 9:29 AM

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I enjoyed rogue until they changed their name, and changed to terra vitae

silver dagger Feb 28, 2019, 9:29 AM

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I liked it before and after.

barren zephyr Feb 28, 2019, 9:29 AM

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@restive mesa why do you need global? To make friends? Go out at night meet ppl or use facebook or wtv lol

viral creek Feb 28, 2019, 9:29 AM

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It kinda went downhill from there, from my perspective

violet magnet Feb 28, 2019, 9:29 AM

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i watched some videos from a youtuber who played on rogue realism when the stat and skin mod was in, they were a spino and they buttrode a stego to death

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like the stego was swiping like crazy but the spino barely even got hurt

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that was a little ridiculous to me

silver dagger Feb 28, 2019, 9:30 AM

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Yeah I remember being a stego and immediately dying to acro and up.

restive mesa Feb 28, 2019, 9:30 AM

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@barren zephyr again with missing the point. My irl friends dont play games and not the isle. So, where is the best place to meet people that play the isle?

silver dagger Feb 28, 2019, 9:30 AM

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I played stego quite a bit back then.

restive mesa Feb 28, 2019, 9:30 AM

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Oh, the isle

viral creek Feb 28, 2019, 9:30 AM

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TIL.realism on v4 was the shit for me

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And normal free for all servers

barren zephyr Feb 28, 2019, 9:31 AM

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@restive mesa official discord

silver dagger Feb 28, 2019, 9:31 AM

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I actually loved V4.

viral creek Feb 28, 2019, 9:31 AM

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I doubt we'll ever have another good private realism server for a long time

restive mesa Feb 28, 2019, 9:31 AM

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@barren zephyr Dont play official

viral creek Feb 28, 2019, 9:31 AM

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Especially since server locks are broken

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Official is good wdym

restive mesa Feb 28, 2019, 9:31 AM

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Pack limits arent enforced

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wont play til they are

viral creek Feb 28, 2019, 9:31 AM

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They have limits on rex, gigas, and trikes

violet magnet Feb 28, 2019, 9:31 AM

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the realism i used to play on is making a comeback

restive mesa Feb 28, 2019, 9:32 AM

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and are grossly incorrect. 5 apexes? why?

violet magnet Feb 28, 2019, 9:32 AM

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still has profiles but they're not SUPER restricting

odd idol Feb 28, 2019, 9:32 AM

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Take this to #401464048610312195 please.

viral creek Feb 28, 2019, 9:32 AM

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Willco

barren zephyr Feb 28, 2019, 9:32 AM

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Oh boy here comes the cops, im out dondiRIP

silver dagger Feb 28, 2019, 9:32 AM

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Going there now.

shut gale Feb 28, 2019, 9:53 AM

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@true haven you only need to make apexes more balanced and their numbers will decrease

umbral prairie Feb 28, 2019, 12:14 PM

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you can make hunger, water and stam permanently visible.

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they don't look like a watermark though

brazen wolf Feb 28, 2019, 12:35 PM

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hiPeople

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anyoneUpForDiscussionAboutNightBeingDarker

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ItsBrightRightNow

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@shut gale

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youTheExpert

umbral prairie Feb 28, 2019, 12:42 PM

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night being dark would be cool, but I would like a slight increase of the night vision range for some creatures because it is a bit annoying to only be able to see so little (I know it's supposed to be spooky but I think a slight increase wouldn't ruin that)

brazen wolf Feb 28, 2019, 12:44 PM

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yes.IAgree.LittleIncreaseInIt'sRangeWouldBeAwesome.

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NotTooMuchButLike3Inch

lime olive Feb 28, 2019, 12:45 PM

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GetANewKeyboard?

brazen wolf Feb 28, 2019, 12:45 PM

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ICouldTypeFromMyLaptop

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IfIt'sTooHardForYouToRead

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ButIAmRelaxedThisWay.SpacebrokenBro

valid flower Feb 28, 2019, 1:32 PM

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Btw guys

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Cama does dmg while running

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so pretty much it can step on u

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it can 1 shot dilos and utahs

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probably carnnos

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from just running on it

shrewd python Feb 28, 2019, 1:48 PM

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@dapper quail https://clips.twitch.tv/TangentialAbstruseOkapiTheRinger

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TheDondi Playing The Isle - Twitch Clips

Parasaur complaints in a nutshell.... - Clipped by vvyntur

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spiral pond Feb 28, 2019, 2:04 PM

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Tbh para still kinda needs a buff of some sort

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maybe what Watt is suggesting

merry ember Feb 28, 2019, 2:17 PM

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What is Para supposed to be threatened by?

spiral pond Feb 28, 2019, 2:19 PM

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something that isnt a solo allo

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i think

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but single allo can kill you rn

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you would need to assride it with hearbutt

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good luck

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since kick it so shit

merry ember Feb 28, 2019, 2:21 PM

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I was under the impression that Allo’s hunted Para’s.

normal fern Feb 28, 2019, 2:23 PM

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They do

spiral pond Feb 28, 2019, 2:23 PM

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in packs

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or pair

normal fern Feb 28, 2019, 2:23 PM

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Para runs away

spiral pond Feb 28, 2019, 2:23 PM

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ambush abuse

merry ember Feb 28, 2019, 2:23 PM

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So it’s a Mountain Lion vs. a Deer.

normal fern Feb 28, 2019, 2:23 PM

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If you keep running it literally isn't a problem

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Yep

spiral pond Feb 28, 2019, 2:23 PM

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why deer ?

merry ember Feb 28, 2019, 2:24 PM

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Bigger and heavier than the lion but not quite equipped to actually stomp it to death like an Elk

spiral pond Feb 28, 2019, 2:24 PM

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and what would be giga sir if allo is moutain lion

merry ember Feb 28, 2019, 2:25 PM

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Polar Bear

spiral pond Feb 28, 2019, 2:25 PM

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and rex ?

normal fern Feb 28, 2019, 2:25 PM

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Tiger or any other large predator in this scenario

merry ember Feb 28, 2019, 2:25 PM

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Polar Bear with cybernetic enhancements

spiral pond Feb 28, 2019, 2:25 PM

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tbh i see allo more as wolf

merry ember Feb 28, 2019, 2:26 PM

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Wolves aren’t dangerous solo, Allo is

normal fern Feb 28, 2019, 2:26 PM

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Lemme use your logic, what does that make dilo and Utah then?

spiral pond Feb 28, 2019, 2:26 PM

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lemme think

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Dilo would be Caracal possibly, Utah a fox maybe

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also im not talking about a crazy buff to para

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not that suggestion that wants to 3 kick for allo

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how would a 50 dmg increase to kick do ?

merry ember Feb 28, 2019, 2:31 PM

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Utah is a wolf or coyote if anything in this analogy

normal fern Feb 28, 2019, 2:32 PM

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Personally I think para getting to 3-4 shot would be fine once it had momentum and the kick hitbox is fixed

spiral pond Feb 28, 2019, 2:34 PM

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if it got momentum if totally fine with 3-4 shots

normal fern Feb 28, 2019, 2:38 PM

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And a fix to the hitbox, that kick goes all the way back to its hips

bronze spoke Feb 28, 2019, 2:43 PM

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I agree with the trike stomp thing tbh

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its literally deafening to every other sound around you

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"turn your game down" then we wont hear the rest of the shit stomping around us, moreso than we could with the game turned up

barren zephyr Feb 28, 2019, 2:49 PM

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buffdilo

carmine echo Feb 28, 2019, 2:54 PM

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i will be pissed if this doesnt happen in next patch 👆

barren zephyr Feb 28, 2019, 3:09 PM

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ppl are complaining alot about servers being plagued with apex carnivores...this time i have to agree.

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but

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i dunno what the devs can do to reduce the apex population and make it more balanced

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the fact is

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and its a simple one

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everyone wants to play the big bad dino or if preferred the flavour of the month...ppl dont usually play what fits they re playstyle

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sad

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but true

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2 days ago Giga was the preferred dish cause it could smash everything...now that its bite force is nerfed and it can no longer shit on a rex few are those that still play giga

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and now the new flavour is once again

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...Trex

merry ember Feb 28, 2019, 3:14 PM

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@spark carbon Dondi already said earlier today that the Oro and Taco food value is going to be changed back. Apexes are gonna start starving again soon enough with only Ava able to feed them.

barren zephyr Feb 28, 2019, 3:15 PM

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and @spark carbon i feel your concerns...this doesnt push me away from the game itself cause i love the hardcore concept of the game...but many ppl are like you...things dont change they just leave. Pack limits should be implemented for the well being of the game...but the fact is...its still unbalanced and those who play the game and dont agree with that have to live with it until some sort of change arrives

merry ember Feb 28, 2019, 3:16 PM

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Affinity is presumably going to fix the packing issue.

barren zephyr Feb 28, 2019, 3:17 PM

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i dunno what can affinity do regarding megapacks tbh @merry ember

merry ember Feb 28, 2019, 3:17 PM

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Penalize you for doing things your Dinosaur wouldn’t do, such as a very territorial species constantly being around a large number of their own kind?

barren zephyr Feb 28, 2019, 3:18 PM

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most of the time im a solo player and i feel that i have absolutely no chance of surviving even if i have a full size rex or giga...ill just find 5 gigas or wtv and die

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@merry ember did dondi talked about the affinity system?

merry ember Feb 28, 2019, 3:18 PM

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He has, yes.

barren zephyr Feb 28, 2019, 3:18 PM

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any clip about it?

merry ember Feb 28, 2019, 3:19 PM

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I’m sure someone could find the imgur with the screenshots for you.

white falcon Feb 28, 2019, 3:21 PM

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@spark carbon the problem with reducing AI spawns is that maps like V3 are so large you don’t always find people. You could be moving towards them, but not know because the map is so big.

spiral pond Feb 28, 2019, 3:32 PM

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Making dilo turn even worse ?

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No thank you

barren zephyr Feb 28, 2019, 3:32 PM

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no

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decrease its turn radius

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as in

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make its turn

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b e t t e r

spiral pond Feb 28, 2019, 3:32 PM

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oh like this

barren zephyr Feb 28, 2019, 3:33 PM

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yes

white falcon Feb 28, 2019, 3:35 PM

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Don’t increase its speed then

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They’re already nuisances. They also need to balance them.

barren zephyr Feb 28, 2019, 3:41 PM

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they are easily one of the weakest carnivores rn

spiral pond Feb 28, 2019, 3:41 PM

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they are the weakest carnivores

barren zephyr Feb 28, 2019, 3:41 PM

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yea

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they are

spiral pond Feb 28, 2019, 3:41 PM

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since utah facetanks them

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outruns

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outturns

barren zephyr Feb 28, 2019, 3:41 PM

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pachy can do the same thing

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same with maia

spiral pond Feb 28, 2019, 3:42 PM

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except way better

compact matrix Feb 28, 2019, 3:42 PM

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give dilo 100 bleed

barren zephyr Feb 28, 2019, 3:42 PM

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carno doesnt outurn

compact matrix Feb 28, 2019, 3:42 PM

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perfectly balanced

barren zephyr Feb 28, 2019, 3:42 PM

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that wouldent saveit

spiral pond Feb 28, 2019, 3:42 PM

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bleed is useless

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if something like utah can literally facetank you

barren zephyr Feb 28, 2019, 3:42 PM

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its like giving a gun that cant shoot 100 billion damage

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if you ever shot anything you would win but it cant shoot

white falcon Feb 28, 2019, 3:44 PM

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Hit ‘n run. If you want to have a better use than Utahs then increase speed.

spiral pond Feb 28, 2019, 3:45 PM

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hit n run can only work if you are ninja that can get outta sight

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but wait utah can still bite you

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and sniff you out

white falcon Feb 28, 2019, 3:45 PM

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THEN WHY DOES THE DILO HAVE THE BEST NIGHT VISION

spiral pond Feb 28, 2019, 3:45 PM

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CAUSE NIGHT IS BRIGHT

white falcon Feb 28, 2019, 3:45 PM

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Not really... granted you can see but not very well

spiral pond Feb 28, 2019, 3:46 PM

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you can literally see everything if your not in a forest full of bushes

white falcon Feb 28, 2019, 3:46 PM

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There aren’t too many places, especially with water

spiral pond Feb 28, 2019, 3:46 PM

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also gamma

acoustic basin Feb 28, 2019, 3:59 PM

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My opinion: Revert the night darkness change. It SHOULD be pich black and dangerous. Current state causes dilo to lose its pro, and people abuse it with gamma.
Secondly: Apexes ruin the game for non-apex dino's. They are everywhere and you can't do shit against them unless you are one yourself. In the current state, the game without Apexes is better...

brittle ravine Feb 28, 2019, 4:00 PM

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@topaz sierra Camarasaurus is already confirmed to be coming into survival

topaz sierra Feb 28, 2019, 4:01 PM

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Is it really now?? When did I miss that

brittle ravine Feb 28, 2019, 4:01 PM

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It was announced on stream a couple of days ago

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All those stat and animation changes weren't for nothing!

spiral pond Feb 28, 2019, 4:02 PM

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juvie cama

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cuteness overload

topaz sierra Feb 28, 2019, 4:02 PM

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Ah I see, I missed that one stream. Thanks for the info!

brittle ravine Feb 28, 2019, 4:02 PM

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👍

topaz sierra Feb 28, 2019, 4:02 PM

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True, imagine the hatchling's "squeak"

dapper quail Feb 28, 2019, 4:14 PM

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@shrewd python I don't want it to be that strong, I just want the swing to do more damage.

astral forge Feb 28, 2019, 5:00 PM

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imo i dont think night should be literally pitch black

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maybe close to it but

spark carbon Feb 28, 2019, 5:04 PM

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I mean I like night as it is right now since it's more realistic, but it's true that Dilos nv is useless atm. Maybe making Dilos have infinite night vision would make a difference?

jolly willow Feb 28, 2019, 5:05 PM

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just buff dilos fucking turn radius

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no idea why they thought to make it turn like a literal train

vague salmon Feb 28, 2019, 5:08 PM

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I feel that growing up to an adult apex with slow hunger rate should be a reward for spending hours as a smaller stage. I agree with ponk- make the juvie and subadult stages more difficult to maintain with hunger and thirst so that they can't just camp an area and live off of the area, at least for rexes. The rex's younger stages are much more mobile than their adult counterpart, so while they do get hungry quickly they don't have to lug around this giant sluggish beast to find food.

barren zephyr Feb 28, 2019, 5:08 PM

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@valid flower that is gonna be fixed on the next patch

jolly willow Feb 28, 2019, 5:09 PM

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before the patch, apexes were more challenging

valid flower Feb 28, 2019, 5:09 PM

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@barren zephyr Next patch? When? End of march?

jolly willow Feb 28, 2019, 5:09 PM

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now its pretty goddamn easy to grow a rex or giga whenever u please

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even before the patch they were fairly easy

torpid wedge Feb 28, 2019, 5:10 PM

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i agree with siv tbh

jolly willow Feb 28, 2019, 5:10 PM

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ya

barren zephyr Feb 28, 2019, 5:10 PM

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@valid flower let the devs work and for now just play the game has it is...

torpid wedge Feb 28, 2019, 5:10 PM

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if the sub and juvi stages are so much harder then let people complain

knotty wadi Feb 28, 2019, 5:11 PM

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Tbh it's hard to play with the screen shake

torpid wedge Feb 28, 2019, 5:11 PM

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people deserve it after getting to adult

knotty wadi Feb 28, 2019, 5:11 PM

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Makes me nauseus

astral forge Feb 28, 2019, 5:11 PM

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am i the only one who doesnt experience this???

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or is just immune or somethin

torpid wedge Feb 28, 2019, 5:11 PM

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it’s worse on bigger dinos

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if you play utah, dryo, etc it’s not as intense

astral forge Feb 28, 2019, 5:12 PM

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ive been playing trike in another server but

knotty wadi Feb 28, 2019, 5:12 PM

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Yeah I really noticed it on my adult Allo, but if you walk slow or crouch it juvi 8t doesn't happen

astral forge Feb 28, 2019, 5:12 PM

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i havent noticed it

torpid wedge Feb 28, 2019, 5:12 PM

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it’s very prominent on allo, rex, giga

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just trotting on my giga yesterday

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ablob_sweat

light oak Feb 28, 2019, 5:12 PM

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Just make apex hunger to pre patch

vague salmon Feb 28, 2019, 5:13 PM

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It makes me so dizzy playing carni apex. I can't wait til the fix for it

light oak Feb 28, 2019, 5:13 PM

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They were pretty balance before

torpid wedge Feb 28, 2019, 5:13 PM

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i don’t see why everyone is this frustrated with the hunger

light oak Feb 28, 2019, 5:13 PM

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Nobody is frustrated

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It's really lame

knotty wadi Feb 28, 2019, 5:13 PM

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I think it's cause they decreased hunger AND added ava, so now you're always at 100 food

torpid wedge Feb 28, 2019, 5:13 PM

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ohh yeah i see with the ava added in

jolly willow Feb 28, 2019, 5:14 PM

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Make apexes hongry again

torpid wedge Feb 28, 2019, 5:14 PM

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but soon they won’t be able to eat oro and taco

jolly willow Feb 28, 2019, 5:14 PM

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Oros and tacos are already p light for giga/rex arent they

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Like 2 bites I think lol

astral forge Feb 28, 2019, 5:14 PM

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yea p much

torpid wedge Feb 28, 2019, 5:14 PM

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still something

knotty wadi Feb 28, 2019, 5:14 PM

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Yeah it's like 2 percent lol

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Ava is like 35

torpid wedge Feb 28, 2019, 5:14 PM

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i survived off of those when i first reached adult

vague salmon Feb 28, 2019, 5:14 PM

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Before I completely survived off of oro and taco to adulthood pre-patch

jolly willow Feb 28, 2019, 5:14 PM

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yeah

torpid wedge Feb 28, 2019, 5:15 PM

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was a mad rush for food and i didn’t die because of the tacos/oros

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yeah same siv

knotty wadi Feb 28, 2019, 5:15 PM

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Keyword is preadult

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I mean full adult

barren zephyr Feb 28, 2019, 5:15 PM

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some ppl dont understand the context of earlier access😐

torpid wedge Feb 28, 2019, 5:15 PM

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i certainly don’t think packs of rexes/gigas should be able to live on ai lol

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like they have

light oak Feb 28, 2019, 5:15 PM

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Apex were able to reach adulthood with IA prepatch

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Now is just ridiculous

torpid wedge Feb 28, 2019, 5:16 PM

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this is suggestion discussion venom we’re allowed to talk about what we think 😂

barren zephyr Feb 28, 2019, 5:16 PM

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unfortunately

torpid wedge Feb 28, 2019, 5:16 PM

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pepega

jolly willow Feb 28, 2019, 5:17 PM

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Make juvie/sub close to living hell in terms of hunger and thirst, then adult is average/somewhat slow as a reward

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Gotta get hongry

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I'm sure there are other ways to make it challenging

vague salmon Feb 28, 2019, 5:19 PM

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The only thing playing adult rex pre patch was that I felt like it was a gamble to wander the map and lots of times I just didn't find anything anywhere especially when playing solo lmao
So I usually camped a spot unless I was in a pack

light oak Feb 28, 2019, 5:19 PM

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Even if affinity is added, you will have tons of apex roaming around on their own, because they are Even easier to survive than mid carns now

jolly willow Feb 28, 2019, 5:20 PM

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probably :/

light oak Feb 28, 2019, 5:20 PM

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You have nothing to fear except other apex, and if u are on a pack, theres literally nothing that threats u

jolly willow Feb 28, 2019, 5:20 PM

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mhm

vague salmon Feb 28, 2019, 5:24 PM

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Maybe a long way in when strains are finally in, the apex pop will be culled, along with the rest of the pop dondiTroll

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I wonder if people are also seeing more apexes around the map because they can finally wander around without potentiall starving to death

light oak Feb 28, 2019, 5:27 PM

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I don't play apexes, I like mid tier, mostly cera now, and I tell you, theres more apexes now. Even if you don't see them, if pretty obvious from just reading the patch notes ...

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Debes should stop taking suggestion and just read feedback. You will have always people qqing about a thing, and if change, you will have the people that liked the old way qqing, it's a endless cycle. Happened with rex buffs, with night brightness... Now is apex poblatión, and if ir get change, you will have the kids that love their big scary dinos qqing about it in just a second...

stiff fiber Feb 28, 2019, 5:31 PM

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the new AI and hunger is great

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you guys talking about servers being overran with apexs, do you actually play the game?

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so many people crying about it 2 hours after patch hit acting like map is full of grown apexes that take 6 hours to grow lol

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@light oak LOL "Even if you don't see them, if pretty obvious from just reading the patch notes" I guess you guys do just complain without actually playing the game huh

merry ember Feb 28, 2019, 5:37 PM

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It’s like y’all haven’t been paying attention

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Dondi already said its being addressed earlier this morning.

vague salmon Feb 28, 2019, 5:37 PM

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I play both midtier and fairly recently apexes and I don't really see much to complain about except for the occasional full pack apexes, but even then anything in a full pack is scary asf. I don't think they're running rampant as people say they are and it's just apexes that can actually move around and not camp a spot their whole loves

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Lives*

light oak Feb 28, 2019, 5:39 PM

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@merry ember Even dondi notice it. Yet for some kids it's not a problem.

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Thats the problem with suggestion. You have very delusional people trying yo balance the game.

stiff fiber Feb 28, 2019, 5:41 PM

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@merry ember where do I need to pay attention in order to see what you are talking about?

merry ember Feb 28, 2019, 5:42 PM

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Wasn’t specifically talking to you

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Moreso the people flooding suggestion with “Apex Swarm pls nerf”

stiff fiber Feb 28, 2019, 5:42 PM

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@light oak You literally admitted you haven't played it yet but can already tell there is a problem from patch notes. Get out of here kid

simple wagon Feb 28, 2019, 7:53 PM

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@mystic kestrel Last days I played a lot of apexes to test them. Juvie giga has big hunger drain, juvie rex also is poor. The sub period is long so they need to have nice hunger system to keep them. It is okay right now, if it is decreased they can die from hunger if there is poor ai spawn.
I know that there are a lot of apexes, but rn they are hard to grow in populated hours. People grow them when there are very few players in the server so that they can abuse adults later. Even if you decrease the hunger there will be no efffect, bcs people will still grow them when there are no players around.

mystic kestrel Feb 28, 2019, 7:54 PM

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Its really not hard

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to grow apex currently

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u can seriously afk and just start eating ai at 20%

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it would be an actual reward for going trough the constant eating and drinking

simple wagon Feb 28, 2019, 7:56 PM

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those arent only apexes, these are all the dinos, the only viable strategy beside a pack

mystic kestrel Feb 28, 2019, 7:56 PM

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i played fuck ton of rex and giga recently

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its really easy

umbral prairie Feb 28, 2019, 8:09 PM

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@mystic kestrel I agree that it should be more challenging to grow apexes, but I think doing that with very fast hunger decay would just be annoying. I think this afk sitting in a bush might lower your affinity because you're not doing anything your dino might want

mystic kestrel Feb 28, 2019, 8:09 PM

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No affinity in yet

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something needs to change

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im fine with apex being top of the food chain

umbral prairie Feb 28, 2019, 8:09 PM

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but just searching for food constantly would be just as monotonous as afk growing and would just be more frustrating

mystic kestrel Feb 28, 2019, 8:10 PM

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It would force them

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to come out of the shadow

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no affinity yet to fix that

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i'd rather make it frustrating

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to grow apex

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and be super fun at the end

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as an reward

umbral prairie Feb 28, 2019, 8:13 PM

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It would be more rewarding I guess

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but I think it will not solve the mass apex population, it will just result in more people complaining, because it wouldn't be hard to grow an apex with the current AI spawns, just really annoying

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but there would still be many adults as it isn't a challenge

fathom idol Feb 28, 2019, 8:18 PM

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So...this is getting pretty weird huh...first, everyone is complaining about how little AI there is and now, with Ava AI, tons of people complain there are too many apax players. Well most people love giga and rex and thats why they are so many. There is no other way around it then to accept it untill humans and cannibals are around. People are always going to pick the thing that rocks the most. I do agree on nerfing hunger and water for subs BUT as a sub, 9 out of 10 times you die by some adult rex or giga. Remember some weeks ago it was the Allos.. overrunning the servers, then the Suchos. I dont think its the dinosaurs that are causing the issue; its the PEOPLE themselves and the way they act/think.

coarse shell Feb 28, 2019, 8:18 PM

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thats why affinity is gonna be a thing

mystic kestrel Feb 28, 2019, 8:23 PM

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@umbral prairie the Taco and Oro will give less food in next patch

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that + hunger reduction for apex should be ok

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hard annyoing but , tough luck if u want to be apex better harden your self

fathom idol Feb 28, 2019, 8:25 PM

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I think some AI that is a challange might be a good idea, something people can really hunt when in groups, let say Shant and Brachi. Something that can KILL an apax but isnt a human they can blame ^^

mystic kestrel Feb 28, 2019, 8:26 PM

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https://imgur.com/7soKKgg

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umbral prairie Feb 28, 2019, 8:26 PM

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I just hope that we will have hadrosaur AI at some point, I'd imagine that hadro AI wouldn't spawn close to hungry dinos, but just spawn randomly on the map (maybe in more open areas) and just wander around, so mid tiers and Apexes have to roam the island but then, once they find a herd, can live off of it for a while (but they have to follow it, so no sitting in bushes all the time)

cyan flame Feb 28, 2019, 8:27 PM

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The issue is that the gameplay has to be enjoyable, no matter what you play as, even if it is difficult/hard, it has to be fun. It's not fun if all you constantly is doing is running between water/food, back and forth with no time for anything else, or that you can't actually sit the night out without panicing in the morning cause you're a few minutes away from starving. Or for that matter finding someone, but not having the time to stalk them/plan and execute a proper ambush, or pass up the target if it turns out to be too much, like one rex vs three trikes or something, in which case you may have to pass them up and hope for the next target to be a bit easier.

umbral prairie Feb 28, 2019, 8:27 PM

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right now, you have a better chance at finding AI if you sit for 20 minutes and then wander around in a radius of 100m, with herds randomly spawning you will have to roam up to multiple kilometers but have a lot of food in turn

fathom idol Feb 28, 2019, 8:28 PM

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I think one of the issues is now is that AVA is spawning in too close to said carni, and it should spawn when they are close to starvation. Im sub rex now and when im at 70% food level theres a very high chance avas spawn in that will fill me up all the way to 100%

cyan flame Feb 28, 2019, 8:28 PM

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Sounds more fun Sam, though I'd like it if the herds roamed and came by, so you'd be able to keep an area, knowing that things would come by reasonably often, giving you the chance to hunt and get food to sustain yourself

violet magnet Feb 28, 2019, 8:28 PM

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and avas are loud as fuck and could draw in other carnis

fathom idol Feb 28, 2019, 8:29 PM

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I dont mind them being loud, they just give to mutch food.. ??

dark hedge Feb 28, 2019, 8:30 PM

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It’s fine, but it makes the bigger dinos an easy catch

cyan flame Feb 28, 2019, 8:30 PM

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I think the food value is fine, sounds to me the issue is when they spawn, if anything. Ai should only spawn at.. 30% or less food, until then, you can and should prioritize players, but after that, it might be worth taking an ai to boost the food before going back after players?

coarse shell Feb 28, 2019, 8:30 PM

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@dark hedge im sorry but if you play on no alt-turn servers thats your problem

umbral prairie Feb 28, 2019, 8:30 PM

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It would be cool to keep an area, but right now the areas are way too small, often limited to two smaller lakes or one big lake, and with the herds not specifically spawning close, you would have to expand your territory a bit. you can also roam the whole island as you don't have to wait for AI to spawn close to you, because right now it feels like your get more AI if you stay in one place

coarse shell Feb 28, 2019, 8:31 PM

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not a valid suggestion if its not from an official server lel

dark hedge Feb 28, 2019, 8:31 PM

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Looks like I’m going to use the Cerato then

fathom idol Feb 28, 2019, 8:31 PM

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Look at the hunger: im not even at 50 % food level and the Ava is already spawning in again..no way im gonna starve like this dondiMonkaS

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dark hedge Feb 28, 2019, 8:31 PM

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Absolutely destroy everyone

violet magnet Feb 28, 2019, 8:31 PM

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ok

umbral prairie Feb 28, 2019, 8:32 PM

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just don't play on no alt turn servers. It's an important game mechanic, it just needs an animation so nobody complains about 'dinos being ballerinas'

hazy sparrow Feb 28, 2019, 8:32 PM

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The [ and ] buttons cycle left and right between Local, Group, and Global

verbal acorn Feb 28, 2019, 8:50 PM

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It seems getting an Ava spawn is a dice roll. Ava are currently served to us on a silver platter though...there needs to be some improvements to them to keep the challenge.

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In terms of making Apex survival more challenging. There needs to be a broader approach to “surviving” other than eat not to starve, drink to not die of thirst and dont get killed. The current survival model is too narrow, and therefore, any attempt to balance or make survival challenging through those three areas ends up being too heavy handed and annoying.

We need additional threats to survival to broaden the spectrum of survival challenges.

cyan flame Feb 28, 2019, 9:02 PM

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That should go for all critters though, not just apexes, unless they should have less challenges? :p

lone crypt Feb 28, 2019, 9:36 PM

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Hey can we stop using alt turn as an excuse for a dinosaur not having a good turn radius? From what I’ve heard, alt turn isn’t gonna be around after the combat overhaul, so anyone who thinks a Dino is balanced simply because it can alt-turn to defend itself, can drop it already.

umbral prairie Feb 28, 2019, 9:38 PM

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well It will hopefully be there in some form, just slower and with a proper animation

cyan copper Feb 28, 2019, 10:35 PM

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Avas should probably be able to fight back a bit. As it is now, they just kinda run in circles.

plucky anvil Feb 28, 2019, 10:50 PM

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@verbal acorn

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I totally agree, maybe some infection system.

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Or at least advanced wounds from hunting large prey

barren zephyr Feb 28, 2019, 11:16 PM

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@lone crypt you can stop lying to yourself my dude..and speculation and false expectations arent good for your health dondiLUL

versed blaze Feb 28, 2019, 11:54 PM

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Dondi already said this morning that soon it will be permanent.............

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DondiToday at 5:56 AM
Going to be awkward when alt turn disabling is removed.

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@lone crypt

stiff fiber Mar 1, 2019, 12:09 AM

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my friends and I don't play on official because of alt turn

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will have to quit playing all together if they remove the ability to disable it

violet magnet Mar 1, 2019, 12:10 AM

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it's a core game mechanic

stiff fiber Mar 1, 2019, 12:11 AM

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so how does it help and how is it not destroying the whole point of dinos having different turning abilities

violet magnet Mar 1, 2019, 12:12 AM

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it helps in that with alt turn you can negate buttriding

idle needle Mar 1, 2019, 12:12 AM

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If you suddenly find yourself at the edge of a cliff, you need to be able to turn around without walking off the cliff. Every animal on land can turn in place.

violet magnet Mar 1, 2019, 12:13 AM

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and alt turn isn't an instant turn, rex's alt turn is still pretty slow

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*and cliffs

stiff fiber Mar 1, 2019, 12:13 AM

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so basically why play anything other than rex because rex should have no weakness

knotty wadi Mar 1, 2019, 12:13 AM

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The biggest issues are alt turn is not consistent (gigas is instant, allos is slow) and there is no animation

violet magnet Mar 1, 2019, 12:13 AM

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rex is an animal in a game, it should have weaknesses

idle needle Mar 1, 2019, 12:14 AM

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Cerato has an animation

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It's just a little clumsy

knotty wadi Mar 1, 2019, 12:14 AM

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Most don't

idle needle Mar 1, 2019, 12:14 AM

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And it's very difficult to do that

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This is an early access game

violet magnet Mar 1, 2019, 12:14 AM

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the default alt turn "animation" is the dino's walk turn animation, just slowed way down

stiff fiber Mar 1, 2019, 12:15 AM

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so if working properly it won't be a turn on a dime type thing?

knotty wadi Mar 1, 2019, 12:15 AM

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Then there are clearly bugs in that because that is not true for all dinos

idle needle Mar 1, 2019, 12:15 AM

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Look, Wattzson

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Stand in place

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Don't move, then turn around

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You can turn on a dime

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Dogs can do this

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Ostriches can do this

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Snails can do this

violet magnet Mar 1, 2019, 12:15 AM

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hell, elephants can do this

idle needle Mar 1, 2019, 12:15 AM

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You just have to be stationary

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The only things that can't move in the air or water when they can't

stiff fiber Mar 1, 2019, 12:16 AM

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It's so dumb when people try to rationalize video game mechanics with reality

idle needle Mar 1, 2019, 12:16 AM

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I mean, it's our frame of reference

cyan flame Mar 1, 2019, 12:16 AM

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Turn radius still matters in movement, and we need something to prevent people from just staying behind someone "forever", since that doesn't make for fun combat, and not fun for the one that can't do much about it.

stiff fiber Mar 1, 2019, 12:16 AM

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Only if you decide for it to be

cyan flame Mar 1, 2019, 12:17 AM

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So.. if you dislike alt turn, come up with a better alternative to it that works better and prevents assriding just as well, if not better even :p

stiff fiber Mar 1, 2019, 12:17 AM

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a better frame of reference could be making a decent combat mechanic for a survival game

idle needle Mar 1, 2019, 12:17 AM

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Part of the selling point of this game is immersion, it's hard to be immersed if you are constantly having to suspend your disbelief that a fully functional predator can't turn around and bite the thing behind it

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Look, that is coming

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There is going to be a combat overhaul

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They've been talking about it for some time now

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The devs are doing a re-work of the base code of the game to make that happen

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Collision will exist. No more "stand inside the butt and bite"

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Locational damage will be a thing

violet magnet Mar 1, 2019, 12:18 AM

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until we get the combat overhaul, alt turn is essential to counter buttriding

idle needle Mar 1, 2019, 12:18 AM

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no more "rex bit the tip of my tail, now I'm dead"

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Yes

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Exactly

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Please take a moment and consider that you are trying to emotionally manipulate an entire team of developers because the game doesn't work exactly how you want it to

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Which is what you're doing, threatening to quit the game if you don't get your way

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Thank you for your consideration. Happy dino-ing!

mystic kestrel Mar 1, 2019, 12:26 AM

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Are we doing it again?

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alt turn discussion

idle needle Mar 1, 2019, 12:26 AM

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They stopped

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It's done.

mystic kestrel Mar 1, 2019, 12:27 AM

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good

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when will they learn

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pepesigh

sly hatch Mar 1, 2019, 12:32 AM

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Imagine saying someone not liking how the game works is emotional manipulation

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But I agree alt turn isn’t needed

versed blaze Mar 1, 2019, 12:34 AM

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Dondi has ruled his ruling, good luck changing it.

verbal acorn Mar 1, 2019, 12:59 AM

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Alt-turn is a reasonable stand in as a simplified mechanic to provide a large dino protection/deterrence from being unrealistically ass-raped by smaller, more maneuverable dinos.

The desire to deactivate alt-turn is for the sole purpose of letting small dinos to grief large dinos. Alt-turn is and should be countered by one things....numbers.

Alt-turn deters the unrealistic and unbalanced soloing of larger, stronger dinos with a smaller, weaker one...but what people fail to mention is that well executed attacking with a reasonable amount of cumulative tonnage through packs defeats alt-turn.

Alt-turn isn’t granting large dinos invincibility, it encourages a much more realistic requirement for group tactics vs larger dinos.

cursive wind Mar 1, 2019, 1:25 AM

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what if nests increased the chance for ai to spawn nearby? it is influenced by the number of dinos around it, eggs hatched, gestang, and incubating. potentially lowering ai spawns aswell.

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this would only allow sub adults to make such affects, or perhaps the ai spawn influence only begins once the nest owner is a full adult?

hazy sparrow Mar 1, 2019, 1:50 AM

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Some dinos like Utah do very little bleed to large dinos, something in the area of 0.25dmg/second (per bite), even though it LOOKS like they're bleeding more @weak herald

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You can't die from bleed while sitting, bleed still heals naturally over time while standing. (Just slower)

nocturne skiff Mar 1, 2019, 1:55 AM

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@brazen wolf there is a way to make it visible all the time you just have to change it in settings

silver dagger Mar 1, 2019, 2:54 AM

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@kind blaze I'm with you on the elder mechanic. I've been drawing elder concepts for awhile now. I don't think it's anything that needs added until the game is totally done otherwise. It's a lot of work to make them unique enough to be worth the extra development. I'm sure they'll be modded in for realism servers even if we don't get official elders ever.

coarse shell Mar 1, 2019, 3:07 AM

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@weak herald will be a thing soon

weak herald Mar 1, 2019, 3:08 AM

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@coarse shell Awesome, thank you 😃

astral forge Mar 1, 2019, 3:40 AM

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and maybe the elders could be slightly bigger

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juuuust a bit

silver dagger Mar 1, 2019, 3:47 AM

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Yeah I know I make my elders look huge in concepts I draw of them, but they're intended to only be a bit bigger than regular full sized adults.

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Mostly just fatter.

astral forge Mar 1, 2019, 3:59 AM

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i had the gentle thought of a hypo while looking at that

silver dagger Mar 1, 2019, 4:00 AM

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My elder trike definitely went a little over the top and into magna territory. Tried to dial up the herbivores and dial down certain carnivores with strains in mind. But anyway probably not how the team would end up doing it if they have official elders.

astral forge Mar 1, 2019, 4:01 AM

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i feel like elders wouldnt be too different

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just a lil bigger and looking olde

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maybe scars yknow

silver dagger Mar 1, 2019, 4:01 AM

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Mhm, I heard Dondi on a stream play around with the idea of having male highlight colors go whiter.

astral forge Mar 1, 2019, 4:01 AM

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ooo

silver dagger Mar 1, 2019, 4:01 AM

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Nothing set in stone, but something along those lines would be neat. Really anything to show you've been alive longer than others.

thorny lynx Mar 1, 2019, 4:38 AM

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I just wanna see what allo mouths do. It looks like they have some sort of jaw gape restriction in their models and cannot open their jaw wide enough.

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:39 AM

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@nocturne skiff ThankYouIdidntKnowThat👌

violet magnet Mar 1, 2019, 5:45 AM

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@kind spire very much against involuntary, unnecessary calls

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if there are any carnis around to hear the herbi 4-call then they would flock to the herbi and hunt it instead of eating whatever food's there

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@kind spire i did offer a counter argument...

kind spire Mar 1, 2019, 5:54 AM

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So no canris ever sniff?

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Gotcha.

violet magnet Mar 1, 2019, 5:55 AM

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i doubt a pack of allos would bother sniffing for other food if they heard a para 4 call nearby

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they'd just hunt the para

kind spire Mar 1, 2019, 5:56 AM

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Right in 30 mins of a hunt to look for tracks and no further calls no one would ever sniff

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You got it bro

violet magnet Mar 1, 2019, 5:56 AM

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dondiSquint

silver dagger Mar 1, 2019, 5:56 AM

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I'm confused what you are meaning. You want herbivores to involuntarily 4 call, I get that. But why do you think they wouldn't hunt the living herbivore?

kind spire Mar 1, 2019, 6:02 AM

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I feel like as a carnivore you'd hear a fear call in the area and approach as the rest are encouraged to evacuate. Meaning carnivore hears then semi homes in then sniffs when no sounds (unless someone has a death wish) as do others.. Unless the heribivore outside of the corpse range say.. Idk 20m keeps yelling.. Why chase what's gone when ya got free food.. Then canri stand off.. Herbs furthe away thus (realistically) and then the smart or strongest survive

silver dagger Mar 1, 2019, 6:03 AM

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They'd just eat the corpse and hunt the herbivore because it would be easy to track.

kind spire Mar 1, 2019, 6:03 AM

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Think of it as a sirens call as the vulnerable flee and the ships or killers sail in

violet magnet Mar 1, 2019, 6:03 AM

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the carnis would hunt the herbis

kind spire Mar 1, 2019, 6:03 AM

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Would they? Everyone just ran in

violet magnet Mar 1, 2019, 6:04 AM

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carnis on official will literally walk away from food to go hunt something

silver dagger Mar 1, 2019, 6:04 AM

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I'm kinda confused about your whole scenario, I've seen carnivore packs kill as much as possible to save food for later. They'll kill what's running then go back for the corpses that they've left behind.

kind spire Mar 1, 2019, 6:04 AM

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I assume all of that has been visable

silver dagger Mar 1, 2019, 6:05 AM

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All of what?

kind spire Mar 1, 2019, 6:05 AM

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The kills

silver dagger Mar 1, 2019, 6:05 AM

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Either way. They like to chase.

violet magnet Mar 1, 2019, 6:05 AM

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also
"no sounds (unless someone has a death wish)"

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yes, because making noise in this game gets you killed

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and you want to force herbis to 4-call if they walk into the vicinity of a dead body?

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how would they even know if there was a body nearby?

silver dagger Mar 1, 2019, 6:06 AM

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They already plan to have it lower herbivore affinity to be too near a corpse right?

kind spire Mar 1, 2019, 6:06 AM

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It does. It also gets your killer killed a lot of the time

violet magnet Mar 1, 2019, 6:06 AM

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the killer won't be forced to 4 call tho

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the killer can remain silent

kind spire Mar 1, 2019, 6:07 AM

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Idk about the lower affinity..

silver dagger Mar 1, 2019, 6:07 AM

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I'm pretty sure that's the solution they will have for corpse guarding.

kind spire Mar 1, 2019, 6:07 AM

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Sounds ok to me though. Out of sight out of mind

violet magnet Mar 1, 2019, 6:08 AM

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the heck is that supposed to mean? 😂

kind spire Mar 1, 2019, 6:09 AM

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Side note :how would herbs know? Same way carnivore finds ai when close

violet magnet Mar 1, 2019, 6:09 AM

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i will definitely mind if i'm foraging for bushes but 4-calling every 5 seconds because there's a body nearby i can't see

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carnivores find ai because it makes noise

kind spire Mar 1, 2019, 6:10 AM

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And herbivores avoid because noise..

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Your point is?

violet magnet Mar 1, 2019, 6:10 AM

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ai doesn't spawn around herbivores

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or dead bodies

kind spire Mar 1, 2019, 6:11 AM

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Pretty sure it does, and the three dryos and dibbles I hit up don't agree

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No shame old rather eat an an AI than your hour or two of work

spiral pond Mar 1, 2019, 6:13 AM

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Ai doesn’t spawn around her is anymore, only near carnis

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Also imagine you kill a taco that is screaming, what happens? You start 4 calling cause you killed a taco, which means your dead if any carnivore is nearby

kind spire Mar 1, 2019, 6:14 AM

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Bummer was that the new update? What about the velico, that chases tiny herbs and carnis

violet magnet Mar 1, 2019, 6:14 AM

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3 dryos and dibbles don't agree with.....what?

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i really don't know what you're hoping to accomplish here. To make herbis more easily tracked, like the noisy ai...?

silver dagger Mar 1, 2019, 6:15 AM

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An immediate punishment for simply being near a corpse doesn't make sense. It would doom herbivores even if they're playing smart and planning to leave the area of the body as soon as they happen upon it, or have murdered something. Only once they stay on top of a corpse to guard it for a period of time should there be any negative effect in my opinion.

spiral pond Mar 1, 2019, 6:15 AM

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^

coarse shell Mar 1, 2019, 6:18 AM

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@junior jacinth that'll be happening sometime already, oro and taco were never meant to give this much food anyway

spiral pond Mar 1, 2019, 6:19 AM

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Or let’s imagine a different scenario, you are in a big herd with a dryo, Utah charges through and kills the dryo, the whole herd starts screaming for basically no reason at all. Giga comes up and kills half the herd, and then allos come and bam herd is gone.

kind spire Mar 1, 2019, 6:19 AM

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Not saying they need to 4 call on cool down.. Just once per minute till they get out of the area on smell alone... More of a broadcast as they assure "something died here"and gtfo.. Maybe one per 5 mins.. You just need to know before you gtfo and alert a general area. Same goes for a kill for a carnivore.. Some claim roar should go out on auto

spiral pond Mar 1, 2019, 6:19 AM

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Just...no

silver dagger Mar 1, 2019, 6:20 AM

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No. No please.

violet magnet Mar 1, 2019, 6:20 AM

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why tho

kind spire Mar 1, 2019, 6:20 AM

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Idk.. Irks an idea

junior jacinth Mar 1, 2019, 6:20 AM

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@coarse shell hope so soon, playing carnivore has been too easy since the implementation of AI. I'm aware it is a crutch currently, but it can still be tuned for better balance.

spiral pond Mar 1, 2019, 6:20 AM

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Yo can’t force something to make noise

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That’s a death sentence in the isle if you don’t know

violet magnet Mar 1, 2019, 6:20 AM

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if i come across a random body i'll want to make LESS noise in case whatever killed it is still around

silver dagger Mar 1, 2019, 6:20 AM

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At least you shouldn't force a player who is playing well to make noise. For example you take damage and make a noise when starving because you've played poorly to allow yourself to begin starving.

kind spire Mar 1, 2019, 6:21 AM

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I mean you can force hitman to have people see people you killed.. I just don't know the balance needed to keep from corpse guarding or trying to hide it

coarse shell Mar 1, 2019, 6:22 AM

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affinity will fix corpse guarding

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thats it

violet magnet Mar 1, 2019, 6:22 AM

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corpseguarding is a player behavior, not part of the core gameplay

coarse shell Mar 1, 2019, 6:22 AM

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we dont need herbs yelling every minute because a corpse is in their personal space

kind spire Mar 1, 2019, 6:23 AM

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Corpse guarding for a carni or an herbi?

pure copper Mar 1, 2019, 6:23 AM

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You know what else will fix corpse guarding

coarse shell Mar 1, 2019, 6:23 AM

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herbs guarding corpses

pure copper Mar 1, 2019, 6:23 AM

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Corpse dragging dondiWeSmart

junior jacinth Mar 1, 2019, 6:23 AM

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The devs are trying to find ways to mitigate improper behavior via mechanics and consequences, affinity will solve it.

silver dagger Mar 1, 2019, 6:24 AM

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Hilla's right though, with negative affinity impact for herbivores staying too close to a body for too long combined with body dragging. Issue will be fixed.

kind spire Mar 1, 2019, 6:25 AM

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I got that, but for those that cannot drag, what is the negative incentive? Id figure herbivores in close contact screaming to call bigger carnivores would help

violet magnet Mar 1, 2019, 6:25 AM

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calling in bigger carnivores would do the opposite of help

silver dagger Mar 1, 2019, 6:25 AM

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It would feed the bigger carnivores exclusively.

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You can already scream like crazy to attract something to eat your foes lol

kind spire Mar 1, 2019, 6:26 AM

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I mean they need more food as well? Idk.. I'm not a paid game dev. It's ultimately just a thought experiment

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I just have felt like the added danger to a signal is where the majority of where the fun and excitement begins. At least for me 90% of it is like yeah I need to run and hide and I only yell over any food to survive. I don't usually play herbi though.

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I'd figure screams only around a corpse as you run or walk away would be a good survival thing

silver dagger Mar 1, 2019, 6:32 AM

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I think people are just saying you need to let the player choose if they want to call or not. Maybe there will be some positive affinity for calling like to establish territory to make it worthwhile.

kind spire Mar 1, 2019, 6:32 AM

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But if I'm wrong that's fair

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True..

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It just seems so hard to balance if you don't force at least one aspect on each subclass..

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Idk maybe a 5 call that neither half could hear even? It almost sounds fair

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I really have nothing..

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Dalton Reutlinger really needs a cohost.. Unpopular opinion ik

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While I enjoy the asmr aspect of his isle videos..

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If you want more than oof more

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Idk

nova ice Mar 1, 2019, 8:01 AM

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Having a choice in a game is nearly always better than forcing something on the player, even if it is as simple as a 4 call. That and I don't think it makes sense anyway, I doubt any prey-animal that wanders into the vicinity of a predator territory calls a bunch unless it's a sentry warning a herd...in which case the players would do that themselves.

I heard also that affinity thing? Like herbivores acting non-herbivore like in the game (being near carnis/corpses) causes their DNA to degrade or something that's already a negative effect? I haven't had a chance to keep up with videos but that's what some VCs I heard were saying.

silver dagger Mar 1, 2019, 8:54 AM

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@lone hatch I'm almost positive that they'll allow servers to turn off certain factions. Humans have always been planned, they aren't going to just cancel them.

spiral pond Mar 1, 2019, 9:01 AM

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If I’m honest I don’t like the concept of humans, but I roll with it, in the early stages where humans will probably eat too op a lot of servers will turn them off, later when humans are balanced I wouldn’t have that much problems with em

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I would start killing all humans as galli dondiTroll

lone hatch Mar 1, 2019, 9:38 AM

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@silver dagger but then community will divide

silver dagger Mar 1, 2019, 9:38 AM

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What?

lone hatch Mar 1, 2019, 9:41 AM

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Sorry now better

silver dagger Mar 1, 2019, 9:42 AM

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Oh, well yeah that's kind of the point. The playerbase is only going to grow with the inclusion of the other factions, it's important to have server options to cater to different subsections of the community.

lone hatch Mar 1, 2019, 9:49 AM

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Ye I hope they will add this option

silver dagger Mar 1, 2019, 9:52 AM

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Like I said, almost positive they will. I'm sure plenty of people will want to have servers with only regular dinosaurs and no strains, only dinosaurs + tribals but no mercenaries, literally any combination of the factions to suit the desires of the server owner. I wouldn't worry too much about it just yet.

spiral pond Mar 1, 2019, 10:48 AM

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Actually we kinda want players to kill ai, that way you have a reason going herbivore without anything that sees you wanting to kill you to sustain itself

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And getting buffs by kills is a real bad idea, since you could basically end up with Rex chasing down carnos

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You would have mini hypos with less hunger drain

noble dirge Mar 1, 2019, 10:52 AM

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Have you played herbivore without anything trying to kill you? It's just a sit around and eat simulator. Now I'm not saying AI should be taken out completely and rely on us strangling each other for sustenance like it used to be, no the AI is a great addition but it also needs to be balanced in a way that people actually play the game again. But yeah that's why I said not game breaking, maybe Rexes wouldn't be able to gain speed or if any make it very little, whatever works for balance's favor but still fun and rewarding.

spiral pond Mar 1, 2019, 10:53 AM

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Did you try playing herbivore before ai ? You had no other choice then to hide, since literally EVERYTHING went after you cuz your a herbivore

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Also this could be job for affinity

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Who knows

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Also another reason people aren’t killing herbs is there are almost none since they are really bad in some cases

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And need to be in corner of the map

noble dirge Mar 1, 2019, 10:55 AM

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Oh yeah I remember, but like I think with the overly fattening AI at the moment we hit the scale all the way the other side and now need some balance back. This is just an idea I feel would also make every player unique not just "another Rex or Allo and we know how fast or strong it is".

spiral pond Mar 1, 2019, 10:56 AM

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The ai is getting fixed soon

noble dirge Mar 1, 2019, 10:57 AM

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I mean yeah they could fix the AI, or maybe take a few things out of my suggestion to implement some more interesting gameplay then what we have now.

spiral pond Mar 1, 2019, 10:57 AM

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Also I like that you can tell what can or cannot kill you

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Again affinity

true haven Mar 1, 2019, 10:58 AM

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who said no one hunts herbis

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every herbis always get the time the he was hunted

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all players attracted to herbis

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like shants are untouchable

spiral pond Mar 1, 2019, 10:59 AM

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And getting buffs for killing herb juvies or subs would break the game

noble dirge Mar 1, 2019, 10:59 AM

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Who said it had to be Juvies?

spiral pond Mar 1, 2019, 11:00 AM

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Then subs

noble dirge Mar 1, 2019, 11:00 AM

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Or Subs?

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"of course balanced enough not to make it game breaking"

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Devs can take that as they will.

fallen cipher Mar 1, 2019, 11:01 AM

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hoy lads, so quick question, what's your favorite dino and why ? ^_^

noble dirge Mar 1, 2019, 11:01 AM

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Wrong channel.

fallen cipher Mar 1, 2019, 11:01 AM

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Maybe a reddit thread would do better justice to this question actually

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^

spiral pond Mar 1, 2019, 11:02 AM

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Again affinity will give you buffs in reasonable way

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Pretty sure devs will make it so you can’t feed you adult Rex entirely off ai

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Without bad affinity

noble dirge Mar 1, 2019, 11:03 AM

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I still feel affinity should be something working against you, making you play how the dino is supposed to be. The extra buffs would help you resist affinity, rewarding you with an easier way to survive if just slightly for the more effort you put.

spiral pond Mar 1, 2019, 11:03 AM

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I mean slight buffs

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Not some crazy buffs

noble dirge Mar 1, 2019, 11:04 AM

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Yeah that's what I mean basically, I'm not saying a Rex should gain Galli speed for catching one.

spiral pond Mar 1, 2019, 11:04 AM

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But buffs from kills is still way too easy

hazy sparrow Mar 1, 2019, 11:05 AM

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I can just imagine rex getting gali speed now... the horror

noble dirge Mar 1, 2019, 11:05 AM

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Living off AI is way too easy.

spiral pond Mar 1, 2019, 11:05 AM

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And it will be punished

noble dirge Mar 1, 2019, 11:05 AM

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Shit don't say that my Maia was just jumped by a Rex.

spiral pond Mar 1, 2019, 11:06 AM

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Maia has momentum a bit so it will catch you f close enough in a forest

noble dirge Mar 1, 2019, 11:06 AM

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Would be nice to be rewarded by something worthwhile like a buff after killing player dinos.

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It was night and my friend led a Rex to me.

hazy sparrow Mar 1, 2019, 11:07 AM

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The affinity system will most likely have something similar. The reward is getting the stronger version of your dino.

spiral pond Mar 1, 2019, 11:08 AM

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And this could promote KOS in a way

hazy sparrow Mar 1, 2019, 11:08 AM

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Reward for every kill is instant gratification, this game relies more on time-spent playing than just getting kills.

spiral pond Mar 1, 2019, 11:08 AM

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Instead of killing 1 para, you kill entire herd to get a bigger buff

noble dirge Mar 1, 2019, 11:09 AM

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They could always give the buff a timer when you can gain again, something reasonable.

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But also this game is meant to be a survival game, kill or be killed. Also in the same way it can make people think twice about getting reckless, dying and losing your buffs.

spiral pond Mar 1, 2019, 11:12 AM

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Or it will make you more and more reckless since your bigger and better

noble dirge Mar 1, 2019, 11:12 AM

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Balance is the key.

hazy sparrow Mar 1, 2019, 11:31 AM

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do bushes spawn like AI? I think they're just randomly placed all over the map, aren't they?

lime olive Mar 1, 2019, 11:32 AM

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Yes

hazy sparrow Mar 1, 2019, 11:32 AM

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"yes" to which?

barren zephyr Mar 1, 2019, 11:32 AM

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they spawn randomly

waxen talon Mar 1, 2019, 11:32 AM

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is that confirmed?

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and where is it confirmed

barren zephyr Mar 1, 2019, 11:33 AM

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i can't show you any Dev confirmation but it's what i can tell you out of experience

waxen talon Mar 1, 2019, 11:33 AM

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so its not confirmed

spiral pond Mar 1, 2019, 11:33 AM

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Tbh there are areas that are completely barren on bushes

barren zephyr Mar 1, 2019, 11:33 AM

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nope it's not confirmed

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sorry if i mislead anyone that was not my meaning

spiral pond Mar 1, 2019, 11:34 AM

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So that’s why they are not moving that much

barren zephyr Mar 1, 2019, 11:34 AM

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intention*

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because unlike ai (again from my experience) they do have set spawn points

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but it's random if they spawn at those point

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you can actually test this is you dont play on an official dev server

glossy garden Mar 1, 2019, 11:35 AM

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They should rollback to the previous hunger values for adult giga and rex since the new AI is in the game.

lime olive Mar 1, 2019, 11:35 AM

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They are dotted around the map as edible bushes

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Not spawn in?? wdf

barren zephyr Mar 1, 2019, 11:35 AM

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if you sit at one point on the map where there are a lot of bushes then the server crashes the bushes spawns reset themselves

waxen talon Mar 1, 2019, 11:36 AM

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So you're saying they have a set location?

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And regenerate slowly after being eaten?

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@lime olive

lime olive Mar 1, 2019, 11:36 AM

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Yes

barren zephyr Mar 1, 2019, 11:36 AM

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they have set spawn locations i think

waxen talon Mar 1, 2019, 11:36 AM

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That was my belief too, glad someone shares it.

barren zephyr Mar 1, 2019, 11:36 AM

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then if you eat one bush completetly it respawns somewhere else

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but there are certain places on the map witch dont seem to have spawn locations

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again this is all from my own experience/testing no actual dev confirmation at all

waxen talon Mar 1, 2019, 11:37 AM

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Val, bushes doesn't despawn.

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You can still see their model, just without leafes.

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And they grow back extremely slow.

barren zephyr Mar 1, 2019, 11:38 AM

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never seen them regrow actually could be a thing ill have to check that

waxen talon Mar 1, 2019, 11:38 AM

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Talking hours(?)

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From spending way too much time in 1 place ..

lament thorn Mar 1, 2019, 11:39 AM

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@fleet flax both males and females I'll need to take part in order to nest

hazy sparrow Mar 1, 2019, 11:40 AM

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yea for now you dont need a male to nest, but will eventually

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It would be cool if AI actually got thirsty/hungry and had to eat and drink. Might be hard to code though 😄

barren zephyr Mar 1, 2019, 11:43 AM

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it would probably be doable but takes a lot of time to code in, time they rather spend on other things

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but yeah would help make the world feel just that bit more "alive" 😄

umbral prairie Mar 1, 2019, 11:44 AM

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bushes do 'despawn' after a server restart, the bushes are not in the same spot all the time

barren zephyr Mar 1, 2019, 11:45 AM

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but who knows, I'm personally very impressed at the rate they are shooting out updates lately

umbral prairie Mar 1, 2019, 11:45 AM

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Does anyone have something I've missed in my suggestions? In my mind they would work out but I'm not sure if I thought about all aspects

true haven Mar 1, 2019, 11:46 AM

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and even they release the update like commonly its content actually worth it

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in the next month we might have locational damage

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this month body dragging

umbral prairie Mar 1, 2019, 11:47 AM

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I don't think so, aren't they focusing on the code rework the next months?

barren zephyr Mar 1, 2019, 11:47 AM

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not all of them are gems, it show they are actively working on new features and additional content

umbral prairie Mar 1, 2019, 11:47 AM

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I would not expect any updates until late april

hazy sparrow Mar 1, 2019, 11:47 AM

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dragging a live dino into the water as sucho and drowning it yes

umbral prairie Mar 1, 2019, 11:47 AM

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maybe not as sucho but as deino

hazy sparrow Mar 1, 2019, 11:47 AM

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😄

barren zephyr Mar 1, 2019, 11:47 AM

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that would be... the best way to troll 😛

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dino torture

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"tell me what I want to know! or ill waterboard you!"

true haven Mar 1, 2019, 11:51 AM

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yeah and like the dragging it speed is affected by the size if it is 3/4 of the dinos weight it cant be drag in , but if it less it can , and also if it has lower weight it can be drag in faster and so if it has more weight it will have to be drag in slower

hazy sparrow Mar 1, 2019, 11:52 AM

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Yeah I was just thinking a gali or something when I said sucho

barren zephyr Mar 1, 2019, 11:52 AM

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and stamina drain would need to be taken into acount

hazy sparrow Mar 1, 2019, 11:52 AM

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Deino could probably drag a whole para in

umbral prairie Mar 1, 2019, 11:53 AM

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depends on how long it has grown, maybe if it's been around long enough it could drag a rex? I'm not sure if it's true but I've heard deinos will not stop growing until they are so big they can't get enough food to sustain themselves

hazy sparrow Mar 1, 2019, 11:54 AM

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Even shant and spino weigh more than rex 😄 would be interesting to see the possibilities

barren zephyr Mar 1, 2019, 11:54 AM

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well i think there will be a limit to it's size, think there would be to many gameplay issues if they could actually grow for ever

umbral prairie Mar 1, 2019, 11:55 AM

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I think the limit will be set with hunger drain

hazy sparrow Mar 1, 2019, 11:56 AM

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People would also know to avoid such a creature, except the blind ones

glossy garden Mar 1, 2019, 12:15 PM

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what do you guys think about adding in survival hypo classes?

umbral prairie Mar 1, 2019, 12:18 PM

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the devs have plans on having hypers playable, but I think that will be in the far future as they never talked about how the hypers (and potentially other strains) will be implemented. I hope it will be very hard and annoying so the servers aren't full of hypers all the time

spiral pond Mar 1, 2019, 12:18 PM

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No

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Magnas possibly

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But hard to get

umbral prairie Mar 1, 2019, 12:19 PM

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I hope there will be no more than 1-2 strains at a time per server, even that is pretty much if you think about how strong and fast hypers are

glossy garden Mar 1, 2019, 12:20 PM

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i agree, 1-2 max

umbral prairie Mar 1, 2019, 1:07 PM

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first three ideas are nice, but I feel like wind affecting your scent could be annoying, and I don't really get what benefits you would have from marking your territory as it would either lure in big carnivores or give yourself away for potential prey

lament thorn Mar 1, 2019, 1:45 PM

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@fading shadow doesnt that just promote excessive killing

violet magnet Mar 1, 2019, 1:57 PM

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@clear turret where are people getting "the in-game sun sets at 4pm"? This is the second time I've seen someone complain about it and I don't...get it?

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is there an in-game clock that i haven't enabled?

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also the entire day-night cycle takes roughly an hour, going off of music cues, but night seems longer because of the extra five minutes of darkness at dawn and dusk
so day is like 20 minutes and night is 40

fading shadow Mar 1, 2019, 1:57 PM

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@lament thorn yes but that’s the point

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Hypo gotta eat

lament thorn Mar 1, 2019, 1:59 PM

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its not a hypo

barren zephyr Mar 1, 2019, 2:00 PM

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gotta try a new strat

fading shadow Mar 1, 2019, 2:04 PM

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@lament thorn yes it is

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The deino never stops growing

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It grows into hypo size

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With hypo hunger

lament thorn Mar 1, 2019, 2:04 PM

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hypos dont grow

fading shadow Mar 1, 2019, 2:05 PM

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It’s not called a hypo

lament thorn Mar 1, 2019, 2:05 PM

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big doesnt equal hypo

fading shadow Mar 1, 2019, 2:05 PM

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But it’s fundamentally the same

lament thorn Mar 1, 2019, 2:06 PM

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can you find the confirmation that its hunger drains like a hypo cause that seems very impractical for an ambush creature that has to wait for its food to come to it

fading shadow Mar 1, 2019, 2:06 PM

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Dondi said it in the QnA

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Go look

leaden night Mar 1, 2019, 2:06 PM

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They devs said it will progressively keep growing until its hunger is unsustainable

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Go scroll through offical answers, ya lazy Para bastard

fading shadow Mar 1, 2019, 2:07 PM

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dondiTroll

lament thorn Mar 1, 2019, 2:07 PM

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lazy?

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didn't know asking for confirmation equalled lazy but aight yah bastard

leaden night Mar 1, 2019, 2:11 PM

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dondiTroll

clear turret Mar 1, 2019, 2:17 PM

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@violet magnet

📎 20190301161610_1.jpg

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In the bottom right corner is the in-game clock

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iirc it doesnt need to be enabled, it is just hard to find heh

brisk mesa Mar 1, 2019, 4:13 PM

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@brazen wolf You REALLY don't like it XD

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:14 PM

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no

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it's already hard to grow apex

brisk mesa Mar 1, 2019, 4:14 PM

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Uh.

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Hard?

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:15 PM

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there is 5 % chance to make make it to adult hood

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and 12 hour would be im 0

brisk mesa Mar 1, 2019, 4:15 PM

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So 80% of the server being apex rn

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Does that not... conflict?

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With a 5% success rate?

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:15 PM

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apex will kill apex

brisk mesa Mar 1, 2019, 4:15 PM

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Nah. You sit in a corner.

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And eat Avas.

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It's mind numbing.

viral creek Mar 1, 2019, 4:16 PM

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Apex growing is ez.

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:16 PM

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Who Sit in the corner

brisk mesa Mar 1, 2019, 4:16 PM

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But not hard.

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:16 PM

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after growth they like to have fun

brisk mesa Mar 1, 2019, 4:16 PM

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80% of the server, apparently.

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:16 PM

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only to be get killed by other apex

viral creek Mar 1, 2019, 4:16 PM

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I grew one last night and kamikaze into an apex fam

brisk mesa Mar 1, 2019, 4:16 PM

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All sat around doing jackshit

viral creek Mar 1, 2019, 4:16 PM

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It's easy peasy chicken squeezy

warm ridge Mar 1, 2019, 4:16 PM

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5% chance? what

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:16 PM

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so 12 hour would be too much of investment

viral creek Mar 1, 2019, 4:16 PM

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I mean

brisk mesa Mar 1, 2019, 4:16 PM

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No, it's not; because they'd all need to invest 12hrs

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:17 PM

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herbs got easy life too

viral creek Mar 1, 2019, 4:17 PM

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He said you will become fresh apex at a normal rate

barren zephyr Mar 1, 2019, 4:17 PM

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Increasing growth time is the worst way to solve a problem

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:17 PM

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why ant you complaing about herbs

brisk mesa Mar 1, 2019, 4:17 PM

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What? Herbs have it harder than predators atm.

viral creek Mar 1, 2019, 4:17 PM

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FULL apex will take 12hr

barren zephyr Mar 1, 2019, 4:17 PM

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I would like unlockable apexes with 7 hours

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than 12 hrs

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fucking with

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apex

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tbh

warm ridge Mar 1, 2019, 4:17 PM

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what

brisk mesa Mar 1, 2019, 4:17 PM

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My idea still gets your apex after like 6hrs lmao

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:17 PM

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even thought its 6 hours

brisk mesa Mar 1, 2019, 4:17 PM

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Just not 1.0 Apex.

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:17 PM

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not alot of players will make it

barren zephyr Mar 1, 2019, 4:17 PM

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fresh adult

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apexes are trash

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every fresh adult

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are trash

warm ridge Mar 1, 2019, 4:17 PM

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ok

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:18 PM

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so increasing time will only make it hard

brisk mesa Mar 1, 2019, 4:18 PM

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Does a fresh adult Giga lose to 1 Allo?

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:18 PM

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and frustrating if dead

viral creek Mar 1, 2019, 4:18 PM

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Fresh adult apexes can still stand on their own

barren zephyr Mar 1, 2019, 4:18 PM

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make it hard in a boring way

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:18 PM

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yes it does

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it has no chance

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allo too strong

warm ridge Mar 1, 2019, 4:18 PM

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allo too strong please nerf

cyan flame Mar 1, 2019, 4:19 PM

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Are you currently unable to survive on these servers you play on? :p

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:19 PM

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try surviving 7 hour in a full server

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it's impossible

brisk mesa Mar 1, 2019, 4:19 PM

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What?

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:19 PM

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even utha and dillo could kill sub

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in a group

warm ridge Mar 1, 2019, 4:19 PM

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not impossible if there's so many people growing as apexes

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and succeeding

brisk mesa Mar 1, 2019, 4:19 PM

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^^^^

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XD

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:19 PM

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They die too

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it's just that they grow apex when server is empty

cyan flame Mar 1, 2019, 4:20 PM

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You're all bothered by something that isn't an actual issue though xD

warm ridge Mar 1, 2019, 4:20 PM

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did you hear the part where they succeeded at growing

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:20 PM

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try growing apex in 200 slot server

viral creek Mar 1, 2019, 4:20 PM

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Literally over half of the server is apexes. They are quite literally eating the server

brisk mesa Mar 1, 2019, 4:20 PM

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Erik,80% of a server being apexes

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IS a problem

barren zephyr Mar 1, 2019, 4:20 PM

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Lock apexes

cyan flame Mar 1, 2019, 4:20 PM

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Watt: Can you survive or not?

barren zephyr Mar 1, 2019, 4:20 PM

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bye

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solved

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:20 PM

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if they invest time they deserve to eat

barren zephyr Mar 1, 2019, 4:20 PM

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make it unlockable by affinity

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somehow

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:20 PM

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othher playrs

cyan flame Mar 1, 2019, 4:20 PM

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You know my view on that xD

barren zephyr Mar 1, 2019, 4:20 PM

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bye solved

warm ridge Mar 1, 2019, 4:21 PM

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Raptor did you hear the part where half of the server are apexes

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imagine half the server eating the other half

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:21 PM

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who told you that

warm ridge Mar 1, 2019, 4:21 PM

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THE CHAT HAS BEEN SAYING THAT

barren zephyr Mar 1, 2019, 4:21 PM

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I THINK it's depends on the server

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:21 PM

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most of the players are mid tire players

warm ridge Mar 1, 2019, 4:21 PM

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The whole time

woven marsh Mar 1, 2019, 4:21 PM

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The best way to control apex numbers is to make it so that AI doesn't spawn around apexes. That way the server can only sustain a certain number of apexes since they require other players or AI spawned by other players for food. It will also limit pack sizes to 1-2 since bigger packs will starve. Longer grow times is interesting but wont curb apex numbers.

brisk mesa Mar 1, 2019, 4:21 PM

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Official servers

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Are literally all that matters.

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:21 PM

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not alot of players like to spend 7 hoours on dino

brisk mesa Mar 1, 2019, 4:22 PM

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over 60 people on a 100 player server

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Apparently are fine

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With spending 6hrs growing Apex

barren zephyr Mar 1, 2019, 4:22 PM

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tbh when i die with a sub apex

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i didnt start apex for

warm ridge Mar 1, 2019, 4:22 PM

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you guys need profile pics it'll be hard to distinguish between uncle and pseudo

barren zephyr Mar 1, 2019, 4:22 PM

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atleast 3-4 days

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:22 PM

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6 hour is hard bro

brisk mesa Mar 1, 2019, 4:22 PM

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Pseudo has a good point

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:22 PM

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try growing giga

brisk mesa Mar 1, 2019, 4:22 PM

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Dude, it isnt hard.

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:22 PM

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and talk to me after that

barren zephyr Mar 1, 2019, 4:22 PM

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Watt

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:22 PM

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if ppl see you you dead

brisk mesa Mar 1, 2019, 4:22 PM

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Yes.

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Dont be seen.

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:22 PM

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even utha could fk you up

barren zephyr Mar 1, 2019, 4:23 PM

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As i've said making something harder with increased growth time is the worst thing ever.

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:23 PM

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you need to drink and eat

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so need to get out

brisk mesa Mar 1, 2019, 4:23 PM

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Ricsi, normally I'd agree with you.

warm ridge Mar 1, 2019, 4:23 PM

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do you play on no alt servers

brisk mesa Mar 1, 2019, 4:23 PM

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Truly.

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:23 PM

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it's not that easy as you thin

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then you get killed after 4 hours

brisk mesa Mar 1, 2019, 4:23 PM

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Normally I'm all for harder gameplay

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:23 PM

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most ppl get pissed

brisk mesa Mar 1, 2019, 4:23 PM

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At lower time.

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But they just made gameplay EXPONENTIALLY EASIER.

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:23 PM

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it's not easy

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have you played apex in survival

brisk mesa Mar 1, 2019, 4:24 PM

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Uncle, it's absolutely trivial on official server.

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Yeah.

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:24 PM

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it's almost impossible to survive

warm ridge Mar 1, 2019, 4:24 PM

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yes he did

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:24 PM

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try it today

brisk mesa Mar 1, 2019, 4:24 PM

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If you think this is hard my guy...

warm ridge Mar 1, 2019, 4:24 PM

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dondiSquint

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:24 PM

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if you make it to adult then survive for a week

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then talk to me

warm ridge Mar 1, 2019, 4:24 PM

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no

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:24 PM

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i bet you wont survive a day

brisk mesa Mar 1, 2019, 4:25 PM

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Staying alive... isn't relevant to the discussion?

viral creek Mar 1, 2019, 4:25 PM

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I played apex last night. Grew it on 1st try by afking in a corner.

I kamikazed into an apex fam because I realized I was contributing to their cancerous numbers and wanted to die.

brisk mesa Mar 1, 2019, 4:25 PM

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We are stating how easy obtaining apex is.

warm ridge Mar 1, 2019, 4:25 PM

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We talking growth

brisk mesa Mar 1, 2019, 4:25 PM

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^^^^

languid ember Mar 1, 2019, 4:25 PM

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i had a 90% success rate growing a giga before the buffs, so if it's not easy for you now you're doing something really fucking wrong

warm ridge Mar 1, 2019, 4:25 PM

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thank kev

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:26 PM

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well 12 hour is too much to ask to play apex

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the growth time is ok

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right now

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and it's hard

viral creek Mar 1, 2019, 4:26 PM

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You can be an apex in six hours

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:26 PM

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not so easy

viral creek Mar 1, 2019, 4:26 PM

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Just not a full apex

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It's easy

warm ridge Mar 1, 2019, 4:26 PM

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how about 10 hours

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same as cam

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aparently

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:26 PM

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try is solo anti apex

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not in a grou

viral creek Mar 1, 2019, 4:26 PM

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I did

waxen elk Mar 1, 2019, 4:26 PM

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Apexes are easy

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end of the story

viral creek Mar 1, 2019, 4:26 PM

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I told you how I died earlier

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:27 PM

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if so easy for you and dont like it dontplay

waxen elk Mar 1, 2019, 4:27 PM

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There's too much of them and it needs to end

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:27 PM

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play herbs

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it's so challengingfor you

cyan flame Mar 1, 2019, 4:27 PM

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Too much according to you at least :p

viral creek Mar 1, 2019, 4:27 PM

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Nono the issue is. Apexes are literally taking over the server

waxen elk Mar 1, 2019, 4:27 PM

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dondiLUL

warm ridge Mar 1, 2019, 4:27 PM

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That's a terrible argument uncle like

waxen elk Mar 1, 2019, 4:27 PM

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The bias of this dude is unreal

brisk mesa Mar 1, 2019, 4:27 PM

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Potato, my suggestion is about offsetting how powerful you are for the time you spend growing.

umbral prairie Mar 1, 2019, 4:27 PM

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I'd be ok with 10-12 hours if the stats didn't scale proportionally, but would get better faster at the start of the adult phase and only very slowly at the end, so a full grown rex can't completely fuck over a 9 hour rex. should of course be stronger, but not that much

waxen elk Mar 1, 2019, 4:27 PM

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GIGA SHOULD BE GOD AND KILL EVERYTHING IN THE ISLE BECAUSE I SAY SO AND IT'S MY FAVOURITE DINO 😠 😠 😠

warm ridge Mar 1, 2019, 4:28 PM

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Yeah but isn't 10 hours already better than 6

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:28 PM

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well apex is not power ful if attaced by a group of raptor

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rex could die

waxen elk Mar 1, 2019, 4:28 PM

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Apexes literally heal raptor bites when running

brisk mesa Mar 1, 2019, 4:28 PM

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dondiSquint

warm ridge Mar 1, 2019, 4:28 PM

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do you play on non alt servers

brisk mesa Mar 1, 2019, 4:28 PM

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^^^^

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He does

viral creek Mar 1, 2019, 4:28 PM

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Apexes demolish raptors now

brisk mesa Mar 1, 2019, 4:28 PM

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Explains everything

viral creek Mar 1, 2019, 4:28 PM

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Raptors are like fleas to apexes

waxen elk Mar 1, 2019, 4:28 PM

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If you die to a raptor as an apex you might want to reconsider life

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:28 PM

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no they are not anti

waxen elk Mar 1, 2019, 4:29 PM

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And take a good moment to think what are you doing wront

viral creek Mar 1, 2019, 4:29 PM

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Yes they are

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:29 PM

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i have seen 2 rex geting harrased by bunch of raptors

viral creek Mar 1, 2019, 4:29 PM

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Harassed

waxen elk Mar 1, 2019, 4:29 PM

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How the fuck

viral creek Mar 1, 2019, 4:29 PM

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Not killed

cyan flame Mar 1, 2019, 4:29 PM

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Depends on if you have alt turn or not :p

brisk mesa Mar 1, 2019, 4:29 PM

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Erik Alt turn servers are all that matter.

viral creek Mar 1, 2019, 4:29 PM

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I get harassed every day by my mom boi.

brisk mesa Mar 1, 2019, 4:29 PM

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LOL

waxen elk Mar 1, 2019, 4:29 PM

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dondiSucc

viral creek Mar 1, 2019, 4:29 PM

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Harassing and killing are different things

brisk mesa Mar 1, 2019, 4:29 PM

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Local man is slayed by mom, who then gives him CPR, daily

warm ridge Mar 1, 2019, 4:29 PM

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If you play on servers that cancel a vital game mechanic made to counter utahs and dilos riding you

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:29 PM

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they kill rex easy

waxen elk Mar 1, 2019, 4:30 PM

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They don't

viral creek Mar 1, 2019, 4:30 PM

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That's a lie

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:30 PM

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sub have no chance

waxen elk Mar 1, 2019, 4:30 PM

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It's over 100 hits

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Subs one shot them

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:30 PM

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no it's not

cyan flame Mar 1, 2019, 4:30 PM

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I know that Watt.. xD

waxen elk Mar 1, 2019, 4:30 PM

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Yes it is

viral creek Mar 1, 2019, 4:30 PM

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Yes it is

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:30 PM

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they too fast

waxen elk Mar 1, 2019, 4:30 PM

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you just suck at the game

brisk mesa Mar 1, 2019, 4:30 PM

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Big brain play: stand your ground, alt turn, left click

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Profit

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:30 PM

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so who wants to grow 12 hour dino just to get killed by bunch of raptors

viral creek Mar 1, 2019, 4:30 PM

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Trust me utahs just think they're doing damage to an adult apex

waxen elk Mar 1, 2019, 4:30 PM

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Im sorry but if you die to raptors as apex you're doing something terribly wrong

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If being an apex is so hard

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why is 90% of the server Rex or Giga?

umbral prairie Mar 1, 2019, 4:31 PM

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you don't get killed by raptors as an apex unless you let them bite you for 10 minutes

viral creek Mar 1, 2019, 4:31 PM

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You will not die to raptors as a full grown apex unless you're bad at being an apex, then you should maybe reconsider your dino selection

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:31 PM

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not 90 % mabe 10%

warm ridge Mar 1, 2019, 4:31 PM

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What do you do when you're getting attacked by raptors uncle

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:31 PM

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most of them are mid tie dino

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and herbs

warm ridge Mar 1, 2019, 4:31 PM

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10%? dondiSquint

waxen elk Mar 1, 2019, 4:31 PM

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What?

brisk mesa Mar 1, 2019, 4:31 PM

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Uncle, what are you... what?

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Official servers?????

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NANI?

viral creek Mar 1, 2019, 4:31 PM

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Are you high

umbral prairie Mar 1, 2019, 4:31 PM

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I've never seen a single apex get killed by raptors

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:31 PM

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haha

viral creek Mar 1, 2019, 4:32 PM

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Have you been on official

waxen elk Mar 1, 2019, 4:32 PM

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Mid tiers barely exist anymore

warm ridge Mar 1, 2019, 4:32 PM

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Are you baiting

viral creek Mar 1, 2019, 4:32 PM

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dondiLUL

barren zephyr Mar 1, 2019, 4:32 PM

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only carnivores that exist are apexes and utahs

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:32 PM

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i dont see lot of apex around

waxen elk Mar 1, 2019, 4:32 PM

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And some Ceratos here and there

barren zephyr Mar 1, 2019, 4:32 PM

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wat

viral creek Mar 1, 2019, 4:32 PM

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What server are you on

umbral prairie Mar 1, 2019, 4:32 PM

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I got killed as a .9 sub rex once but the raptor pack was 11 raptors big and I killed 5 of them

cyan flame Mar 1, 2019, 4:32 PM

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Your us servers must be so weird :p

warm ridge Mar 1, 2019, 4:32 PM

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you must not get around then

brisk mesa Mar 1, 2019, 4:32 PM

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@brazen wolf What servers do you play on

waxen elk Mar 1, 2019, 4:32 PM

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I see an apex every corner i go

barren zephyr Mar 1, 2019, 4:32 PM

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they must be

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:32 PM

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us 123

barren zephyr Mar 1, 2019, 4:32 PM

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no alt turn

waxen elk Mar 1, 2019, 4:32 PM

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w t f

viral creek Mar 1, 2019, 4:32 PM

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I don't believe you

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:32 PM

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they are subs

barren zephyr Mar 1, 2019, 4:32 PM

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w b a t

vague salmon Mar 1, 2019, 4:32 PM

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Wasn't there already a time where apexes took that long to grow?

waxen elk Mar 1, 2019, 4:32 PM

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Lies

warm ridge Mar 1, 2019, 4:32 PM

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Again uncle do you play on servers without alt turn?

viral creek Mar 1, 2019, 4:32 PM

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Or you are very lucky

barren zephyr Mar 1, 2019, 4:32 PM

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potato

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he plays on us 123

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he sais

warm ridge Mar 1, 2019, 4:33 PM

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what

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:33 PM

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not fully grown . they will be killed by mid tire players

waxen elk Mar 1, 2019, 4:33 PM

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xd?????????????

viral creek Mar 1, 2019, 4:33 PM

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I see full grown apexes literally everywhere on official.

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:33 PM

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what do you play

waxen elk Mar 1, 2019, 4:33 PM

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I have seen

barren zephyr Mar 1, 2019, 4:33 PM

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dilo

waxen elk Mar 1, 2019, 4:33 PM

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two allos since the update

viral creek Mar 1, 2019, 4:33 PM

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Pachy and cerato

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:33 PM

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you could out run them

waxen elk Mar 1, 2019, 4:33 PM

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and one pack

barren zephyr Mar 1, 2019, 4:33 PM

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i play d i l o

viral creek Mar 1, 2019, 4:33 PM

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That's not the pount

warm ridge Mar 1, 2019, 4:33 PM

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That's not the point

barren zephyr Mar 1, 2019, 4:33 PM

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there arnt any

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mid tier players

waxen elk Mar 1, 2019, 4:33 PM

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Both Allos got killed by a Giga in front of me

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:33 PM

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sooo if you could run away what is the problem

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why you want to make life of apex difficult

waxen elk Mar 1, 2019, 4:34 PM

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Apexes are everywhere, which obviously is a sign that they're too easy

viral creek Mar 1, 2019, 4:34 PM

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The point is apexes have a higher population than mid teirs. Animals like sucho and diablo are practically extinct because of apex

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:34 PM

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as it alreasdy is

waxen elk Mar 1, 2019, 4:34 PM

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It should be dificult

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It's easy as fuck

viral creek Mar 1, 2019, 4:34 PM

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Trikes are also getting crushed pretty bad

warm ridge Mar 1, 2019, 4:34 PM

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It isn't difficult rn

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:34 PM

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nooo herbs are going extinct

waxen elk Mar 1, 2019, 4:34 PM

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Sit in corner of the map with river

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Wait for Ai to spawn

barren zephyr Mar 1, 2019, 4:34 PM

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apex life is supposed to be

umbral prairie Mar 1, 2019, 4:34 PM

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you can't discuss with uncle raptor, I've tried it when they tried to convince me giga lost on a face tank pre patch although there was a gif in the chat showing giga wins

barren zephyr Mar 1, 2019, 4:34 PM

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difficult

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:34 PM

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just becasue apex are fun to play dont make it difficult

waxen elk Mar 1, 2019, 4:34 PM

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Repeat for 6 hours

warm ridge Mar 1, 2019, 4:34 PM

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What?

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:34 PM

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make other dino more attractive

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to play

brisk mesa Mar 1, 2019, 4:34 PM

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@umbral prairie Gotcha

barren zephyr Mar 1, 2019, 4:34 PM

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you cant

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with the way apexes are

umbral prairie Mar 1, 2019, 4:35 PM

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it's like talking with flat earthers

waxen elk Mar 1, 2019, 4:35 PM

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This is stupid

barren zephyr Mar 1, 2019, 4:35 PM

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apexes will always be stronger

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:35 PM

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for eg make night darkerfor dillo

waxen elk Mar 1, 2019, 4:35 PM

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No dude

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:35 PM

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so pll start playing dillo

barren zephyr Mar 1, 2019, 4:35 PM

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that wouldent make people play dilo

viral creek Mar 1, 2019, 4:35 PM

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I love mid teirs, many people like mid teirs, but apexes are so strong and easy that thet're becoming the plauge

barren zephyr Mar 1, 2019, 4:35 PM

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thats not how that works

warm ridge Mar 1, 2019, 4:35 PM

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It's like talking to people on a roblox discord server

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:35 PM

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so less apex

waxen elk Mar 1, 2019, 4:35 PM

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It's not because apexes are fun

warm ridge Mar 1, 2019, 4:35 PM

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i'm out

barren zephyr Mar 1, 2019, 4:35 PM

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people would still play apex

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:35 PM

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rgiht now all ppl playing dillo playing other dino

waxen elk Mar 1, 2019, 4:35 PM

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It's because THEY ARE TOO EASY TO GROW

barren zephyr Mar 1, 2019, 4:35 PM

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what

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:35 PM

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ambe apex

barren zephyr Mar 1, 2019, 4:35 PM

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no one plays dilo

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anyway

viral creek Mar 1, 2019, 4:35 PM

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Dilo is sad what

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I rarely see dilos

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:35 PM

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so ppl playing dillo play apex

barren zephyr Mar 1, 2019, 4:36 PM

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NO

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:36 PM

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dillo is no good

waxen elk Mar 1, 2019, 4:36 PM

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fuck out

barren zephyr Mar 1, 2019, 4:36 PM

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thats not

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what

brazen wolf Mar 1, 2019, 4:36 PM

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with bright night

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so make other dino attractive to play

barren zephyr Mar 1, 2019, 4:36 PM

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thats not dilos only problem first of all

waxen elk Mar 1, 2019, 4:36 PM

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This convo makes no sense on a logical scale

viral creek Mar 1, 2019, 4:36 PM

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Why are we talking about dilo now