@jovial skiff do you understand that this not valid for survival? did you saw anyone fight like that?
#general-feedback-discussion
glossy garden
they use alt turn , running , sneak attack
you are not supposed to brawl face to face
jaunty dawn
Admins kinda have to be in game to be able to spectate.
barren zephyr
give them spectating mode, just remove the powers when admins are playing like normal players.
if u gonna play play like everyone else, if u gonna be an admin be an admin while not ingame. u can still ban people from server whit out havening grow powers / teleport and all that shit
should only be allowwed in sandbox
i am an admin myself thats why im saying this. im not speaking about any other server
jaunty dawn
An admin can not be an admin while not being in the game. It isnt possible.
So if survival has a set of rules, and people break those rules, no one can do shit cause "admins cant play".
Maybe take it up to the server owners that their admins are abusing their powers, or play a different server. Not every admin abuses their powers lol
manic ibex
@lucid widget don't tag devs you fool
lucid widget
shidd
waxen elk
icy venture
hazy sparrow
You dont walk into someone elses house and tell them how to run it, let the admins of unofficial servers do what they want.
severe walrus
a lot of non alt-turn servers are good because they have rules to prevent dumbass shit that alt turn unrealistically stops
and until this combat overhaul with (hopefully) locational damage alt turn won't be needed and assriding also won't exist
jovial arch
How is alt turn unrealistic
The only unrealistic thing about alt turn is the fact that it doesn’t have an animation which the devs have literally said is because they haven’t put it in yet
jovial arch
I know an elephant can
jovial arch
Bruh
jovial arch
I literally found a video online of an elephant pivoting in one second
severe walrus
ok then show it
jovial arch
Ok
severe walrus
i doubt it's a pivot
jovial arch
It’ll take me a bit to find it
severe walrus
mhm
glossy garden
what you guys think about adding more AI, juvie and subadult AI for carnivores? that way there will be less killing on the herbivore players and more food for carnivores
severe walrus
that's not
jovial arch
But then again it’s not particularly hurried about it
severe walrus
still not alt turn pivoting
that's walking around
if you press z in game and walk around that's basically what that correlates to
not pivoting
jovial arch
The second turn that elephant does
Has a turn radius of less than half a meter my guy
jovial arch
jovial arch
You’ve literally all but admitted
severe walrus
skip to the facing movements
jovial arch
The only unrealistic thing about alt turn is the animation
severe walrus
it's not pivoting it's still walking
it's unrealistic because i cannot see a t-rex with a bipedal hip structure nothing like a human's turning in place 360 degrees
on one foot
valid zephyr
large animals can turn on the spot easy
horses can spin round in a second if they want
jovial arch
Oh so it’s walking to turn in place
Ok so the animation for alt turn isn’t done yet
Your point is?
severe walrus
and it hasn't been done for a couple of years if i'm correct
valid zephyr
rex still has ball joints in its hips. it can shuffle its feet round
severe walrus
anything can shuffle their damn feet around
jovial arch
Doesn’t have anims=/=remove the mechanic from the game because it’s not realistic enough
severe walrus
as soon as the overhaul comes it'll be useless anyway unless they revamp it somehow
and i doubt alt turn animations will come before then
severe walrus
collisions should've been a thing a year ago
severe walrus
shants aren't surv dinos
valid zephyr
will mean no more running through dinos biting
barren zephyr
i think pachies growth should be reversed, to give it more of a chance
but thats my opinion
lone crypt
@fading wind you said in your suggestion that alt turn takes away any advantage small dinosaurs have in combat with large ones. 2 problems:
1.) many servers don’t even have alt turn
2.) smaller dinosaurs shouldn’t have a combat advantage over large dinosaurs
Their advantage is faster growth and the ability to satisfy their hunger easily (with AI, which don’t sustain large dinosaurs), as well as better mobility
crystal turret
@lone crypt and @timid walrus your suggestion also has the advantage of making players actually PLAY instead of afk through the growth phases alt-tabbed and coming back every 30mins to munch an AI or eat a taco and then back to AFK. Especially herbs who are barely motivated to even move throughout their entire existence.
timid walrus
the growth idea sounds good @lone crypt would help reduce people wanting to afk especially the dinos that take a really long time to grow
crystal turret
even if they decided to do it only for herbivores at that. Anything to help motivate players to play herbs more often. If they grew much quicker perhaps more would give them a shot.
timid walrus
yeah but then again most people prefer to be a carni just for the sake of being able to hunt other players
herbi life can be very boring at least in my opinion
crystal turret
Agreed. being a herbivore is neither engaging or rewarding. The only fun herbs are really the trikes. Triceratops is worthless now that gigas steamroll them. Diablos take significantly too long to level for what they offer.
crystal turret
which is great but can it out run the things that 1 shot it?
And that's the problem with herbs in general. Most die in 1 hit to things and aren't given any tools to defend themselves. they have to run, but have less stam in some cases and are slower than things hunting them
hazy sparrow
I like the idea of growing faster with a constant full stomach/water
timid walrus
that would be due to their size is why most herbis are slow
leaden night
@crystal turret Yes it can
Allo 2 shots
All jokes aside though, Pachy needs to be faster than Allo
timid walrus
alo hella broken though atm
timid walrus
& yes pachy could use a bit of a speed boost
jovial arch
All the carnivores are in an okay spot
I’d say the worst carnivore rn is probably Dilo simply due to night
Some of the herbis need help
barren zephyr
dilo got a damage buff, and now if some thing doesent wanna die from bleed theyre forced to sit
plus it grows relativelly fast
glossy garden
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manic ibex
the thing is, Dilo is not Utah. It doesn't have its speed or agility. It relies on night time to hunt, because on daytime it is a free kill. Now that night is quite light, Dilo can't use darkness to its advantage.
glossy garden
1v1 Rex full adult vs Giga full adult
timid walrus
yeah i am not liking how bright it is during night now almost defeats the purpose of having NV
stuck bison
Dilo can still use times at night to hunt fine though, and being smart with skin selection for night time blend incase people aren't using night vision also helps
The weather also effects the brightness of night
fallow smelt
id use nightvision in the forest like athera says
stuck bison
^
fallow smelt
also that way i dont jump off a rock and hurt my legs
stuck bison
gotta use some strategy and forethought
timid walrus
i never have to use it as it's too easy to see at night even in the forest
stuck bison
You must have a very light monitor or gamma up cause for me the forest can be pitch black at times
timid walrus
could be my monitor as my gamma is still at default
stuck bison
possibly
timid walrus
it has no gamma setting on it though
stuck bison
brightness settings, and contrast
as well as a few other settings out there
just depends on the monitor
timid walrus
yeah they don't do squat for being able to see better in dark games
stuck bison
All I know is that for me, dilo is still easily playable if using strategy and taking in the environment
timid walrus
at least their dmg still beats that 15 they used to do
@shrewd python alos do have a flaw atm you get them to sit then they can't get up = easy kill lol(usless this was fixed)
glad bear
@shrewd python allo is fine
it's one of the slower dinos in game now
and needs a ambush to catch most of it's usual prey
shrewd python
makes up for it with god stam, and sit bug was fixed
and their ambush is also amazing and has great turn
crystal turret
I vote give allos a jump
barren zephyr
👎
glad bear
i'll give you that cause it does make up for with good stam, so what would you do to make allo worse
timid walrus
give it the biteforce of a dilo before it got it's buff that's how to make an alo worse lol
keen harbor
@idle crescent I too want to see that. I suggested it and prevention of players logging when not resting or if they're swimming yesterday :)
cyan flame
Wouldn't your suggestion still not work though, since the timer could be kept up indefenitely? :p Never did sort that out xD
idle crescent
Ah, didn't know it was already mentioned. And I did think that something like a utah could just harress a rex and never let it lot out...because that's what people do. So I'm not sure how to get around mentality of people on that front.
cyan flame
As for Kat, well, the "wait on logout" should be easy, just make it so that when the timer is down,you automatically log off
That way you can't just sit and wait with it ready
keen harbor
I did change my suggestion, actually.
cyan flame
Changed it again?
Cause even with the damage restriction, I'm not sure how that prevents the "infinite timer" issue
idle crescent
True, a much better solution. Mind if I add it to the post with credit as your discord name?
broken bear
I would agree with @idle crescent with the logout menu open it should stop growth if that's the case.
cyan flame
No need to stop growth, just make them log when the timer is up, you're either going to log or you are actively in the game xD
idle crescent
Ye.
cyan flame
It's safelog because you're leaving the game, so away with you :p
Easy fix for the whole "wait and log when you hear something" :p
robust flare
I dont believe gigas should be able to one shot a full grown allo, thats a little overpowered since everyone is running around as gigas
shut gale
@novel mauve much rather have the apex carnivores nerfed...
Cause right now both Apex adult carnivoires are basically unhuntable by mid tiers.
Buffing the Trike could make it so its not huntable by a pack of allos aswell...for example...
crystal turret
I agree that it would be easier to just take an equal amount off the top from both rex and giga in hopes that improves the trikes standing against them. But the trike may need some improvements as well.
shut gale
Tbh after nerfing the other 2 adding these changes would be all the help it needed :
-Stomp damage increase from 800 to 1100
-Change Bleed heal to 10/15
novel mauve
Good point. A lot of these issues come from the apex buffs rather than trike itself.
But I doubt the apexes will be nerfed since rex really needed a speed buff and giga needs to be competent. Hopefully giga gets a bit of a nerf though...
shut gale
i don't wanna get too much into it. But the Rex would've been fine with a mean of hunting which would be some tweaks to his ambush that would enough.
jovial arch
@shrewd python allo does have a flaw, it's got shit bleed res
jovial arch
yes
but it does have a weakness
it can't chase things while bleeding
nor can it run away if it gets hit a few times
shut gale
@uncut zenith already shown to be in the works
uncut zenith
The point was do one of the three, not have one in the process of being worked on
example, remove suchos while it's being worked on
etc
shut gale
people can still play lets say allo and do the same...
shut gale
there's mod support on officials
uncut zenith
not all the time
shut gale
against that even
uncut zenith
like if i was to report it now, i bet it'd get no support
shut gale
should probably make a suggestions for there to be more mods available then...
warped harbor
Admins don't support hiding in water
Like actually resting in it
That is not a problem on official servers
waxen talon
Then call an admin to you to check it out.
And they'll make the ruling if it's allowed or not.
warped harbor
Hiding in water is not intended
You are supposed to swim in it
You are not supposed to sit under it.
plain vector
hi guys
i have a suggestion plz tell me ur opinions on it
i think there should be a stat added in the game i call it (GROWTH FACTOR) what it does is it applies a buff that increases ur growth speed for E.p X1.5 or X2.0 when ur health stat is healthy
plz give me ur opinions on this
warped harbor
That's probably going to be a thing.
With more stats to take into the equation to determine how faster or slower you grow
plain vector
and to be fair i think it should defer for each dino and each stage
gaunt hound
Will there ever be a more accurate way to see your current health?
I'm aware you can get an idea of your healt by looking at the "health" status and also the "heart rate" monitor, not to mention the blood on your screen. But will there ever be added actual numbers like xxx/xxx ?
gaunt hound
Well I don't mind either way, I totally see the appeal with not knowing 100% how much health you will have, I'm just wondering if that's how it is intended or if the devs are considering giving us accurate health numbers ^^
burnt lodge
@barren zephyr being able to "turn off/ on friendly fire" should never be a thing.... yes, it sucks being bit/ hit by a team mate but that's why you need to communicate... if you walk in front of your teammates while they are firing bullets for example, you should have that consequence for your actions. That's also excluding the fact that you could abuse the "friendly fire toggle" very easily...
valid flower
@novel mauve I really hope they do something about it, rexes literlly face tank a trike like its nothing since after the fight u cant die from bleed if u sit
I hope they really do buff the trike, 6 hours of growing and it can be gone in seconds.
maiden tartan
valid zephyr
@stark ruin I agree. Herbis should be more than walking snacks with no real way to survive if they're spotted.
last adder
Dondi himself says he doesn’t like herbis
valid zephyr
source?
last adder
I loved playing as a maia on progression
Nah, I’ve just heard it around
Multiple people said it, so I think it’s probably true, but I don’t really know
valid zephyr
but with 90% of the players going carni, their voices outnumber ours. So they get what they want.
last adder
Yeah, that’s true
I’d love to see more diversity at big lakes other than the occasional gigs waiting for food, and getting none
valid zephyr
it's a pity JP made carnis so popular while ignoring herbis
popular culture only really cares about rexes and velos these days
pure copper
Jp made several Herbivores insanely popular so I wouldn’t say that at all
Hardly “ignored” them
valid zephyr
i think trike got like 1 min of screen time combined in the films. half of that it was so sick it couldn't stand.
pure copper
That’s legit one species
valid zephyr
but it still doesn't change the fact almost the entire playerbase goes carni
pure copper
Indeed
valid zephyr
if i see another player it's a carni 90% of the time
wraith trout
Because carnivores are more fun.
It's A LOT more fun to chase down prey than it is to chase down a bush
🤷
valid zephyr
that's because as serulfen said, no one likes being a walking snack that dies the second they're seen
wraith trout
^
pure copper
The fun from Herbivores comes from being social , traveling together , raising offspring and fending off attackers
valid zephyr
a giga can currently walk up and facetank a trike no problem.
pure copper
Herbivore numbers usually go up a bit when they’re balanced/diverse which throughout the isles history has been wonky
wraith trout
That's why Im currently working on a herbivore overhaul suggestion
Because herbivores need fixing
valid zephyr
this patch is a bit better than most for the smaller and mid tier herbis
pure copper
Currently we have mostly flight oriented Herbivores with a few directed at fighting certain things? Which is fine but it generally grabs people’s attention when the playstyle you have as herb varies a bit more
valid zephyr
but trike isn't doing too well
pure copper
Maia is pretty good since its fast and has the stam to outlast its major predators in a headstart
valid zephyr
trike and pachy are the two which struggle most atm
pure copper
I don’t think we’ll ever get to a point where Herbivore players consistently outnumber carnivores on a daily basis and the games “ecosystem” shouldn’t really be reliant on that. Player preference is simply too flexible for every species to be at peak numbers at all times that’s where I imagine diverse AI will come in
spiral pond
We need the combat overhaul, then you can make multiple types of herbivores, since the carni fanboys would cry if maia/para broke allo leg, this suggestion would make herbivores more fun, since y’know you aren’t walking McDonald’s, Carni currently have so many advantages against herbivores, take ambush for example easily abusable, to complete this suggestion you would need a lot of smaller things than just stats.
valid zephyr
irl carnis go for the injured or young in a herd. In the isle they select its 5 strongest bulls and murder the lot
which is part of the problem
pure copper
Irl carnis go for the easiest target , injured and young aren’t always going to be a part of the equation
wraith trout
So what if there were 3 or 4 AI herbivores roaming around with most herbivore players? 🤔
Building and maintaining a herd would make for fun gameplay
spiral pond
The thing is, people will protect the ill with their full might with the whole herd
valid zephyr
this crashes the server
spiral pond
Maybe affinity could stop that
pure copper
Not really
valid zephyr
atm server can only take like 40 ai
wraith trout
True
pure copper
Affinity shouldn’t stop people protecting their herd members
wraith trout
Would need optimisations
pure copper
Makes no sense
spiral pond
Ok, make a small chance when injured to be labeled as sick, herd mates around you would get minus affinity when being close to you
pure copper
So this is essentially just something to make hunting as a carnivore easier
last adder
Maybe they could introduce some dinosaurs thought to be omnivores?
That’d add diversity
pure copper
They mentioned a while ago they didn’t want omnivorous dinos
last adder
Ah
true haven
yeah like buffed the herbivore like so strong so they can prottect their herd
and with the affinity make them leave someone
like we would have a percentage of sick when not eating what should we eat
steady cosmos
@stark ruin you ever played maia? I do perhaps think you'd have a fun time playing it.
true haven
different diet for each species
last adder
I love playing Maia
steady cosmos
people don't play herbivores because they want to be cool teethy carnivores
last adder
Yeah, people like teeth
steady cosmos
Its not because herbivores are underpowered, even though some are
true haven
but because it is weak too
true haven
i love to play herb i loved them but i hate them for being a food
wraith trout
Hebivores just aren't as much fun right now unfortunately
What is the goal? find a bush?
true haven
let them have some kind of mating or unique things to do
make carnibvore have longer food drain for this
but make the herbivore have the hardest drain in food
and water
so they migrate when really needed
steady cosmos
bacca, sorry to say, but the same can be said for carnivore. What's the goal? find a dino?
wraith trout
I think the best thing would be for herbivores to be able to build up AI herds, although that would require a lot of server optimisation
true haven
or just make it powerful
steady cosmos
herding isnt exactly everything for herbivore
spiral pond
That’s what devs seem to think
last adder
Yeah, they wouldn’t be killed so much if carnis didn’t constantly need to eat
But there’s a tipping point. If the carnivores don’t need to eat as much, there would be more and more carnis which is why we need to find a balance
wraith trout
What else is there though?
steady cosmos
Thats for you to find out
true haven
powerful herb
wraith trout
??? That's not an answer
true haven
thats might be the answer
last adder
I saw about 10 dryos in a herd the other day
true haven
but they are loud noisy little weaklings but fast
last adder
I encounter herbis, but rarely and when I do there’s a lot of em
wraith trout
I like playing herbivore, dont get me wrong, but being in a herd makes it fun like nothing else can atm
true haven
we need more system to make being herb fun , maybe like mating , season changes, food movement or something else XD
last adder
It’s partially where I go though
As a rex main, I go to popular carnivore spots so naturally I wouldn’t see many herbs
spiral pond
Let’s take para - can kinda run away, but just how easy it’s to ambush it gets killed left and right, yet can’t kill a single allo(trust me I tried) Yet the devs argument “just herd” but you CANT and you still can get bodied left and right
spiral pond
I know
steady cosmos
That thing with the young, ingured,ill, and the old kinda doesnt work, as people relentlessly defend their young, or just dead, even after they are deceased.
spiral pond
Do you know how easy it’s to ambush as allo
last adder
the giga has become less viable as an apex, but people still play it a lot
Like 90% of the servers are gigas now
true haven
but maybe lowering it can got better , but he is heavy weight tho
so maybe like just make it a bleeder
last adder
Yepo
valid zephyr
life is going to get even worse for herbis when strains appear. with carnis able to progress, 99 out of 100 will play only carni so they can be the cool kaiju monsters.
last adder
I hope strains are absurdly hard to get
valid zephyr
and even if you get a herd of 20 trikes.... whoops that single hypo carno killed every single one within 30 seconds
steady cosmos
Strains arent gonna be fuckin everywhere
last adder
Besides, it’s hard enough to sneak as a rex without making a fucking earthquake so you could easily hear a hypo anything coming
valid zephyr
it's not the point about being everywhere or no. every single player will want to be one, so will all play carnis
last adder
Yeah, but it’s not gonna work like progression if the devs care about balance
valid zephyr
hypo carno is same size as rex, tons faster than a regular carno, and two shots rex
last adder
Really?
steady cosmos
just ai
last adder
Maybe you’re right
valid zephyr
that would make even less players play herbi
steady cosmos
yes. it would make it so they couldnt touch the ones above maia at all
last adder
I doubt you’ll be able to just select a babby hypo from a menu and grow it.
steady cosmos
I find it more challenging to play something small.
valid zephyr
tbh i'm pretty sure herbis will get removed one day. carnis will keep getting newer and bigger shinies, until no one plays herbis. then the devs will reason it's a waste of dev time to make somthing no one plays
steady cosmos
Small herbis have more of a chance when it comes to still being playable
as they aren't just lazy vegan impact versions of carnivores.
valid zephyr
with the games current direction, i don't think herbis will have a place in it longer term
last adder
Well, I looked on Isla nycta nesting announcements the other day, whenever a shant, para, or maia says they’re nesting it gets many more players wanting it than any rex would
Still, I haven’t seen trikes in days since everyone got angry about the nerf
Before then, I saw trikes passing through lakes all the time
valid zephyr
I'm in the wierd position of believing herbis don't have a place in the game, and being one of the people who will leave if herbis get removed.
last adder
I want trikes to be restored to what they were before tbh
Added some danger to staying at a water source for hours growing
valid zephyr
if giga gets its attack speed matched with rex, both trikes and rex will be more popular
last adder
Yeah, rex attack speed is slow as shit
steady cosmos
trike is actually bullshit
last adder
I need trikes back
valid zephyr
giga has an attack speed which is much faster so it facetanks and wins
violet magnet
i just want herbis to be able to reasonably defend themselves gahtdangit
instead of it being a death sentence if you pick para
steady cosmos
someone killed your baby? camp on the body and dont let em eat cuz thats fun.
last adder
React to the herbi thing in suggestions
violet magnet
i mean it's already a death sentence for every dino but para would die faster than an allo
last adder
Maybe someone will see it
Yea XD, now I think about it I have seen a few herbis in survival recently
I saw a maia with a kid, a pachy and 5 dryos
Separate occasions though, but in the same 2 days
steady cosmos
people just dont like to play em
violet magnet
herbs are all over the place in the sandbox servers but not many in survival
steady cosmos
the small ones are challenging
last adder
I had a wake up call the other day as to how easy it is to grow a carni if you know where to go
I grew 2 rexes yesterday
On my day off im not that bad
steady cosmos
and why does this have anything to do with the suggestion?
XD
Cuz the same can be said with herbi
steady cosmos
And its easier to find the spots to grow as herbi
valid zephyr
the thing is it's the same growing both. being hide in bush and eat bush/taco
yet carnis are way more popular
last adder
Strange.
Like I said though, I see lots of herbis around
But maybe it’s because I play thenyaw
And that map is pretty small
spiral pond
I think part of the problem might be that herb juvies are so useless it’s laughable at
Like juvi dibble
Only like juvi dryo and juvi Maia are fun to play as
valid zephyr
herb juices? 
valid zephyr
yeah i guessed lol
graceful hound
When is hypo oro coming to the isle?
steady cosmos
never
graceful hound
My suggestion is... Make a hypo oro
valid zephyr
size of a dryo, and carnivorous
with an armoured back
or hypo taco which could roll into a ball like a pillbug and be super hard to damage 
potent olive
O wow hypo oro
native nebula
people who decide to roar in the middle of a fight are bad strategists. just saying.
compact coyote
^
manic ibex
they are yummy tho
potent olive
Maybe gaming isn't all about strategy!
lament thorn
I think a survival game is
potent olive
Maybe to you I like fun
lament thorn
Strategy is fun if you know what you're doing
Without strategy you might as well just run around on sandbox
last adder
Haha I mean, it’d also help on realism servers that make up a lot of the community where they say you have to 3 call before fighting. Sometimes my hand slips onto f or 2 as it’s near the movement keys, and I end up roaring by accident and they get the upper hand. I never roar in the middle of a fight though.
Edit: it’d look pretty good as well, and it’d add some liveliness to battles and ambushes
last adder
@barren zephyr they last 4 minutes, funnily enough
They got increased fairly recently
barren zephyr
Well then lol
Just seems way to short imo. I feel like maybe 8 to 10 would be good with tracks over 6 minutes old having a 25% chance to disalpear ever minute
barren zephyr
I mean maybe, but if they give the tracks a chance to disap every a set amount of time before their max time is up, it could readd a bit of difficty
severe walrus
maybe
last adder
That sounds pretty good
barren zephyr
I cant spell today my apologise
fresh zealot
@pearl rapids you're suggestion could also help deal with KOSsers that combatlog like the few recent cases I've witnessed on a chill server I frequent tbh.
last adder
@shut sonnet haha I can just imagine a brachi biting with its teeny head
Still a good suggestion, I like it
Can tell there was effort put into the stats
shut sonnet
I honestly just randomly thought of it last night lol
last adder
Haha, but you did come up with the stats which takes a lot
Maybe the juvi sauropods don’t have to be absurdly slow
And they could rest, unlike adults
shut sonnet
The only thing is the weight contribution to damage
last adder
Yeah, true
shut sonnet
The stats I put are meant to be so that it can kill everything, but it doesn't one shot the apexes or hypos if it gets hit from the back kick or tail.
Then, the HP is at a certain point where a group of apexes can strategically kill the sauropod by attacking from the side of the back legs.
If it gets hit from the front stomp, obviously it's an instant death.
last adder
Yep, but the devs usually make it either too easy to kill, or absurdly hard
umbral prairie
I like the stats and growth times, but I personally wouldn't feel like playing sauropod for 12 hours
last adder
Yeah, true but it wouldn’t be in one go haha
viral creek
To be honest, the stats are have never bothered me, in terms of adding sauropods in survival. It's just the simple fact that the juv phases and sub phases would be so incredibly slow, and lackluster, that nobody would want to play it. Just imagine trying to get to food.
last adder
Like, you’d do as much as you can and be able to defend from most dinos so the rest would be easy
umbral prairie
I think it would be pretty boring moving so slowly ffor so long, plus you're going to get focused bxy gigas (and allos when ur juv)
last adder
Oh yea, but they should make the juvi quick, because it’s still small
it grows big, but it doesn’t mean it has to be absurdly slow as a juvi
Not overly quick, but quicker all the same
umbral prairie
it would probably be faster in relation to it's size but it would still be so slow that anything grown could catch it
last adder
Then again, that’s the same with a juvi rex
The thing that makes the slowness annoying for this is the growth speed
umbral prairie
yeah but juv rex can hide
last adder
I think the juvi sauropods would be able to rest, but not as adults
Something that size wouldn’t be able to rest on a regular basis
valid zephyr
utahs have like 200 bite, sub rexes have like 450
not sure where you think utahs bite harder than subs
@dull jungle
valid zephyr
pretty sure young sub is smaller than utah
last adder
Young subs have 50 at the start
They have to transition from juvi
I think they have 60-70
But when they get to about mid growth it’s 300
last adder
Young sub is just bigger than a utah but can’t kill it
Even the weight class won’t help it
misty linden
last adder
@misty linden Nope, when I was a full adult it took around 3-4 bites
Well, maybe if it played it right
But I’d say no
but probably not the channel to ask XD
pure copper
@last adder there’s no reason to believe sauropods couldn’t rest as adults lying down it’s just a meme pulled over from the idea sauropods are land whales therefore can’t relax on the ground
We don’t really know what their sleeping cycles would be like though
last adder
Scientists think that they didn’t ‘rest’, they had to rely on water to support their weights
pure copper
That was more than 100 years ago...
last adder
🤷♂️
pure copper
Unless you mean a different idea
last adder
Not sure then haha
I just assumed because of their weight it’d be a lot of stress on their bones to rest and get up all the time
I found the water fact in a book published in 2017 though, which is why I believed it
pure copper
If their legs are powerful enough to hold them up on land day by day it’d be harder for me to believe that they’couldn’t rise after resting for a while as is the case with most terrestrial animals
last adder
Yeah, but it’d put a strain on them over time, no denying that
It’s like how things wear out after bending a lot, like a spring
pure copper
I’d have to continue in #paleotalk
last adder
Yep XD
hazy sparrow
I've died to a fall before - There already is tiered damage for falls
hazy sparrow
😃 seems tiered to me
barren zephyr
thats 1 stage of damage if you drop 1 foot or 5 feet. sure, tiered.
dull kayak
Well 2 tiers is still tiered.
silver dagger
@floral knot are you saying you want reptiles to lay their eggs in water? I don't think that's how it works lol
floral knot
im tried ok
barren zephyr
If you talking about sucho, spino and bary laying eggs in the water @floral knot that'd be incorrect
They'd lay their eggs on dry land.
novel mauve
It’s not that no one plays herbivore because a ton of people do. It’s that all the herbivores are in the most remote corners of the map because they can’t compete with carnivores for the space @last adder
I’ve been in 20+ herbivore groups. But no one would know because we are all terrified of getting wiped out by a single giga to move anywhere.
But that’s not really fair when carnivores have a huge advantage over herbivores. It’s not that the herbivores don’t want to explore the map, it’s that if they do they’ll likely get wiped out by the first pack that sees them.
white torrent
I think with the new stego and kentro we will see some advancements in the herbivores. Maybe it’s wishful thinking but I think they’ll start balancing out herbs around their carnivore counter parts.
Just hope that the new steg will allow for allo packs to hunt it and possibly succeed. The stego right now can take on five allo’s and walk away with minor Injuries
last adder
Is that right? I never see many herbivores besides juvies who never seem to stand a chance
Maybe because I play thenyaw
novel mauve
I haven’t played Thenyaw in ages but I imagine the herbivore population would be lower on that map. Too small, not enough hiding locations.
severe hazel
Got to say I agree with those proposed sucho ideas. A slightly faster swim speed and a bit less stam drain while in water and sucho would be perfect.
fluid glen
i don't know if anyone posted this suggestions ever... i guess yes but i' ll post what i would like to have on the isle
1)how gravity works on inclined ground. right now when you walk on inclined ground your dino isn't pulled towards the center of the earth 😛 . your dino stands on the inclined ground as if it was not inclined and it's actually annoying . it gives me the sense that the camera is bent ...sometimes i catch myself leaning to one side while my dino walks on inclined ground...
2)everyone clicks esc and then hovers over hunger and thirst to see the % .... why don't we just have a little number in the middle of our hunger,thirst,stamina icons on our HUD?
3)a menu with all your active dinosaurs in which when you click one of your dinosaurs you join its' server and play. right now i don't remember where i have dinosaurs and what are they.
violet magnet
^ might wanna put that in the actual suggestions channel
barren zephyr
How about an idle swim animation for Suchos? So that we can act like alligators without ruining our stamina just because we want to idle like alligators/crocodiles
severe hazel
Cerato is fine... it’s not meant to be fighting allos and suchos. You can even still beat them if you ambush and use your amazing turn circle. But don’t expect to go face to face with a larger carnivore and win... that’s not how it works. If you want to fight bigger carnivores, try something called ambushing, I do it all the time.
You’re even faster than both allo and sucho, so if you don’t want to die just run away. If they ambush you then they played better and you didn’t see them in time.
polar juniper
severe hazel
That I agree with ^
mild token
@gaunt hound Thank you!
I want to suggest something for party invite, not sure what that could be.
because 'party invite' and 'nest invite' clearly need a different between them both that is easy to see.
I was an adult sucho on a pond, got what I thought was a group invt (didn't really take a closer look at it), and I ended up as a baby maia, then as I was growing it didn't take long before both my parents left and 2 other adult maias had to look after us all.
@pulsar pine Suchos trot speed really need to be faster, mostly for the juvies that are younger and need a chance to escape danger since they can't run for too long and their trot speed is slow.
odd idol
@potent olive If you want to discuss a suggestion, you can do so here.
odd idol
Body dragging is planned btw
potent olive
Yeah I know we just got the swim. Just excited and being impatient!
My favorite dino is coming together 😂! As tho I don't play the isle to much as is.
valid zephyr
@finite hound you have to start as juvie as otherwise every single person would just pick adult rex/giga
starting as juvie makes the top dinos hard to get and makes them rare
well that's the theory
valid zephyr
adult apex is. juvie isn't so most don't get there
true haven
make it like super hard even when u are on top
i mean grow from juvie is ez enough
we need harder situation
valid zephyr
you can start as adults in sandbox
finite hound
@valid zephyr Its fine to start at a juvie. I mean that it would be better that there is a natural lifespan of your dino. However you die in combat you respawn as you current age like sub and ceep growwing to adult. When you reach a maximum age you die and restart as juvi
manic ibex
People will not value their dino anymore then.
valid zephyr
that doesn't reward a player for doing well and managing to keep their dino going. even if they do everything right they die
manic ibex
and do stupid shit
in DayZ when you die you lose your stuff, you don't respawn with half of it
that's the same here
finite hound
@valid zephyr so you say when i am not as good as other players or i am just unlucky of enemies encounter i will never reach adult ?
manic ibex
there is no luck really. it's all about game knowledge, skill, and awareness
finite hound
dont argue with skill lol. I dont even want start to talk about the bad combat system...
valid zephyr
plenty of dinos are easy to reach adult with
i'm not good enough to reach adult with some dinos
barren zephyr
@finite hound Dying is part of the game. If you don't like 6 hour dinos dying, play smaller, less grindy dinosaurs. If you want to spawn in as an adult, play sandbox.
More disposable carnivores that grow quickly would be Carno and anything smaller than it.
Carno, Dilo, and Utah are also all very fun to play in their own ways.
finite hound
@barren zephyr I dont want to spawn as an adult instantly... just dont want to lose my 6 hour work for nothing...
barren zephyr
Then don't play Apex. You don't "win" at this game. You just play and grow and die and restart. That's it.
finite hound
Yea right. So why dont focus more on battles less on camping for hours and hope not to get found...
gaunt hound
If they allowed you to respawn as a adult, it would remove the risk of playing with an Apex 😛 would be pointless as the others say, not saying it's a bad idea, just saying it's not fit for this game or at least not the survival game type
barren zephyr
you're not forced to camp for hours, but it's the safest way to grow an apex.
you can explore all you want if you're willing to accept the risk.
gaunt hound
Try to join someone who's already sub / adult, makes it safer for yourselv and you get to enjoy the game more and removes some of the risk of exploring as a juvi
yourself *
barren zephyr
grouping also means food is a little easier, you can at least eat ribs.
gaunt hound
^ +1
barren zephyr
All that said, if you really don't want to grind up apex, just play a different carnivore. Carno is fast and grows fast, and is pretty good currently.
you just have to accept, with any dinosaur, that it WILL eventually die.
No matter how many hours you put in.
finite hound
Great so this channel is totaly useless unless i cant make any suggestions without everybody telling me that i am worng and not understand me -.-
valid zephyr
we understand what's you're saying. that when you die you should spawn at the growth you were, until you reach a max age then die naturally
true haven
i want that mechanics
so no more apex shit
maybe like
another 7 hours of being apex
valid zephyr
i'd hate that. if a player works for ages to get their dino to adult, they shouldn't lose it to a mechanic they can't control
i'm not even an apex player
also seroveih having people disagree with your suggestions is all part of the suggestion process
i've suggested like 20 things. half of them people all disagreed
tawdry sentinel
If you like starting as an adult yet still earning it, Play progression
Theres more dinos there aswell
valid zephyr
miss progression mode
tawdry sentinel
It was fun, but i do prefer survival
valid zephyr
survival doesn't have stego yet though 😦
valid zephyr
nah i'm good without the murderfloofs thanks
tawdry sentinel
I love killing the murderfluffs
But they would be like 3x as aggressive then trikes and would often kill other herbs
true haven
i really wanna see stetgo
tawdry sentinel
@mellow turtle Giga is supposed to have a fast trot as @valid zephyr explained
As it makes a victim bleed then tail them
mellow turtle
they are big af they shouldnt be able to chase down an allo who is much smaller
tawdry sentinel
Exactly bigger, meaing a faster trot with longer legs
If you get tracked down by a giga, its because you just run in a straight line giving obvious tracks
mellow turtle
cool 😂 👌
tawdry sentinel
I escaped a trotting giga as a dilo
tawdry sentinel
But allo is faster then dilo, thats my point
Just get better at hiding from and confusing predators
valid zephyr
if giga gets a nerf it needs to be its facetank ability that gets nerfed. not its movement
tawdry sentinel
@barren zephyr In what world
tawdry sentinel
Since when?
mellow turtle
lol this guy
tawdry sentinel
Been chased down by allo as dilo so many times
mellow turtle
need to pay attention to numbers more
tawdry sentinel
Ok, will keep that in mind
valid zephyr
never struggled to catch dilos as allo
tawdry sentinel
Thats my experience
Just checked and dilo is faster then allo
Sorry for not knowing 😉
How?
Because i wanted to know??
Its not like im being ignorant.
valid zephyr
receives an apology
Insults in return
tawdry sentinel
Ikr
So if you "think"others are being dicks, its right for you to be one to others?
Great! You made us go a little off topic there
Can i see the video
Im interested what else im wrong about
Cheers
valid zephyr
not sure where i've insulted anyone on this discord
potent olive
Are you kidding! It's 2019 everyone is offended.
light oak
Why people ask buff for suchos because muh aquatic Dino, but then complain about it's trot on land?...
barren zephyr
well I mean in a sense they were like crocs or such I would assume and those are still pretty fast on land when they want to be lol
I love the sucho, wouldnt mind a faster trot for a juvie, i like the adult just fine though
only disappointment I have is the bleed damage is weaker than its predecessor i BELIEVE
light oak
Crocs can run for a short moment only, so basically an ambush, that suchos already have
I kinda like the niche that suchos fill now, so i linda is cool if they have a hard time changing water sources
barren zephyr
that is why you live at swamp or geysers in v3 lol
best place for them I think
I wouldn't mind a much more vas river as for them to travel throughout the map though
would be cool
light oak
Yeah, i like that idea, thats why i think trot should stay the same, so you make sucho players water dependant
I think they already have a faster swim speed
barren zephyr
they dont
lethal condor
guys I need help
I was made adult giga by an admin from my server, but now I cant either eat nor drink
what do I do?
he aslo killed me so I could make another one, but when he made me adult giga again I had the same problem
lethal condor
eu primal earth
sweet oasis
That's not related to suggestions, nor official servers. I would ask an admin on their discord.
sweet oasis
#401465522815893506, I'd say?
leaden night
@granite vigil We're going to fight
granite vigil
What
crystal turret
@viral creek I agree with most of your changes but your Carno growth time increase seems completely random. You want it increased 'just cause'? People already forego Carnos for other, larger options like the newly tuned Cerato. I really don't think Carnos need a nerf.
I would also like to add that growth times in general for herbs should be reduced.
Para for example, what does it do to justify the 3 hour growth time? While Diablo is probably the sole Herb in a great spot right now overall, even it doesn't justify its growth time.
viral creek
I never really focused on herbivore growth times, because they never bothered me. However I can understand what you're saying.
As for carno, his current juv phase is 40 minutes, which is shorter than utah. His movement speed also makes him a breeze. Sure, carno isn't the strongest compared to sucho or allo, but he does decent enough damage, and has god teir speed, he is extremely survivable.
crystal turret
he is, but is anything about him overpowered right now? I would like to think that dinos grow at their relative speeds because of their relataive power at adult
would something be improved to justify a longer growth time?
leaden night
@granite vigil Sorry wong person 
viral creek
No, he's not op. He's good, but not op. The thing is his growth time is very short to begin with. Only 10 mins longer than utah. He deserves a longer growth time. It still takes him shorter to get to full adult, than allo. But it will be longer than it is now.
crystal turret
that's because Dilo has a specific niche that he is very powerful in and only he has.
and it's still only 10m more than raptor
At most I'd just take 10 from the adult and move it to juvie or something. Make it identical to dilo at that point
But I haven't even seen Carnos since the Cerato changes came out.
viral creek
Really? I've still seen quite a few of them.
civic sky
Dryo is indeed the god of survival, if dondi ever adds an “extinction event”, in the ashes only dryo shall prevail.
mystic kestrel
Increase time before AI Food despawns infront of you...
plush coyote
@flint ibex DO NOT tag Dondi
barren zephyr
@flint ibex what
sweet oasis
Are you for fucking real
fresh zealot
the absolute madman
barren zephyr
holy
plush coyote
@flint ibex Read the rules. Do not tag the development team
Suggestions is not a place for you to rage out.
sweet oasis
We dealt with it. Back to normal chat.
bitter jasper
RIP
barren zephyr
why give trike bonebreak shouldn't it be anky and pachy?
bitter jasper
Have you ever had a horse kick you?
ya know...
a large
heavy
animal
impacting you with its legs
it breaks bones
median sorrel
Because trike used to have BB on its stomp and headbutt
bitter jasper
dropping a car on your leg WOULD break your bones
median sorrel
With its nerfed turn radius I honestly dont think it would be a problem if trike had BB again
crystal turret
Why give anchy or pachy bone break? They're herbivores and should be walking value meals
median sorrel
🤔
barren zephyr
anky should have bb not pachy
imagine just a shit head pachy running around breaking everyones legs
mental sleet
...because it can do that ?
barren zephyr
im talking game wise
like if pachy had bb that would be retarded
people would just go pachy and torture everyone
lament finch
personally i think anky should have bone break but pachy should get a charge mechanic where it can only get bone break on certain sized dinosaurs, and only if its running at max speed
hazy sparrow
@balmy geyser You can save favorite servers through steam - though an in game option would also be useful.
normal fern
@violet magnet yeah, juvie dilos camera definitely needs adjusting, it's animations also slide badly
violet magnet
its walk and crouch speed are just painful omg
ocean vortex
glides across the ground, amright
for some reason many juvies now have the animation of their adult forms
violet magnet
glide but not actually get anywhere
ocean vortex
this is strange because last time, they had their own custom animations
and these custom animations synched perfectly with their footfalls
violet magnet
cuts down on costs 🤷
ocean vortex
e.g. Carno
but they HAD the animations before
and they worked perfectly
I dunno why they removed them
its like taking away something better
it IS taking away something better
violet magnet
maybe they didn't work with the new models?
ocean vortex
why did they even make new models though??
the old juvie models looked great
I have a worried feeling that the devs are too delicate with the graphics of the game
violet magnet
the old juvie models were just scaled down versions of adults tho
warped harbor
No juvi dinosaur had custom animations that got removed
Custom animations for different life stages only got added in, the only thing that was changed was the models.
true haven
@brisk mesa they had answered it in #519931024956850187
next nexus
@winter moon you can turn on "static hud" in the options menu which will make the HUD be visible at all times
the fact this option isnt the default is really questionable though imo
gaunt hound
@next nexus I'd still like % to be shown on that tho
next nexus
thats fair
winter moon
@next nexus thanks I'm new so still finding stuff out 😃
wraith trout
Everyone wants sucho to be a crocodile
It's like they forget Deinosuchus has a model
and animations
Sucho is a lot more like a heron or stork than a crocodile, despite it's superficial appearance
mental sleet
@pallid sigil not the way you should go to fixing the apex problem
simple sand
I made a suggestion that might help deal with apex overpopulation c:
pallid sigil
maybe make them much harder to grow in some way or make ai spawn less. they can rely too much on ai. that's why there ar so many. i don't know the perfect solution, but something has to be done.
simple sand
Suggested a way for small and medium dinos to have a couple dinos in their group who can mess with apex dinos
pallid sigil
i just read your suggestion, sounds good to. i hope they will add something for this problem in the futur.
simple sand
C:
Could have multiple patriarchs or matriarchs too, if you have a lot of dinos in your group. (8+ dinos) to deal with big apex packs
sand ferry
riiza: As a utah i feel like its almost impossible to bleed targets with a weight mass bigger than 3k i dont know if its just me. For example before the bleed resist buff for herbas and the utah buff i was able to bleed a diablo. Now i cant bleed a diablo as utah but ive only tried hitting it 3-4times before running away but it would still be enough to give it atleast some bleeding?
@verbal goblet Try dilo, they are great for that playstyle
verbal goblet
@sand ferry only problem with dilos is dinos can catch you if you are to bad and i dont enjoy the dilo ive tried it a couple of times but i dont like them 😦
sand ferry
@verbal goblet Dilo needs to hunt at night, it is vulnarable at day time, yes. And it needs to be able to hide in the forest sometimes. But the strategy "bite, bleed and flee. Repeat until the prey dies" is totally dilo :3
valid flower
^cancer
steady cosmos
@valid flower obviously you don't know how dilo works.
thin ember
Did just one guy got banned like some min ago ?
feral wedge
The trouble with laying bait is that you might catch a bigger fish than you anticipated.
crystal turret
not a giga sice they can't eat gore
steady cosmos
Common sense not to go into a discord chat used for discussion and randomly say "cancer".
good job you did there
thorny lynx
Is it alright if I ping dinosauriac to ask about why rex's calls won't change?
They just sound... so puny.
minor basalt
agreed
native nebula
that's just, like, your opinion
barren zephyr
I love the new Rex calls. I don't want them to change back.
topaz epoch
I actually think they're great.
If you took the broadcast we have now, made it just a teeny bit lower-pitched, extended it by about a second, it would be perfection.
shut gale
been hearing more negative feedback about them than positive so far
shut gale
@bitter jasper they already said yes to that
gritty siren
Discord organizations if weird. I have suggestions but can't put them in direct suggestions, must discuss it here..
Mods should be able to move the legit suggestion into a fixed section no one can alter or reply in for us to read
mental sleet
there's an option for that already
spring rampart
Easier to be lazy and just delete it
mental sleet
its just they don't do it often
spring rampart
Its fun making a suggestion that adds to the one before it, and it gets called out by autistic manchildren as "discussion"
mental sleet
oh boy
wraith trout
@languid crag Quetzalcoatlus is kind of in game, but is only accessible for Devs due to balancing reasons.
It is uncertain if they are still planned to be public
ebon drift
It's salt water, first of all. Most animals don't drink salt water. Sea creatures stay hydrated by absorbing water from the sea, except for marine animals that get the water from food they eat. The ONLY basis I can see for sucho being able to drink salt water ( why???? keep them in lakes ), is if they have a salt gland like seabirds, some reptiles, or sharks.
Did you want sucho to drink salt water because of beach spawns?
oblique crown
No.
So they can explore more and have more water to go to without dying of thirst.
And theres really only 2 spots suchos like water wise they don't really care for the other lakes
warm valley
Only 2 spots?
ebon drift
A more reasonable request would probably be upping the sucho's trot speed, or making its thirst decay smaller as something that thrives in water.
Are you playing on Thenyaw or V3?
warm valley
Any reasonably large river and all the swamps are your playground
oblique crown
V3
ebon drift
^. V3 has more places that are better suited for Sucho than Thenyaw does, the only difference is that V3 is way more vast.
viral creek
@idle needle Injected dinosaurs have been wiped off official servers for a longggg time now
potent olive
I find swamps not so good. Water is too shallow and gigs can just run thru most of it. Lazy river and titan lake you are the god
idle needle
@viral creek Last night I watched a pair of theris kill Niv's allo... on US 1
It has begun again.
true haven
@brisk geyser i want that happens but not so long for good reason like maybe 30 percent more than now , coz if u can survive a weeks without food that will make u afk person
brisk geyser
@true haven I dont want that either, thats what I wrote. A slight decrease in the food drain would be enough. The 30% you mentioned would be a good start I think.
brisk mesa
As for the reasoning behind my proposed shift:
The gamemode is Survival, however as it stands Apexes basically trade all their merits to help keep them alive in exchange for ultimate combat prowess. However, this clashes with the concept of Survival not having 'actual' tiers like Progression did. Your large tier dinosaur should feel stronger, but not be some ridiculous tank that can carve a path clean through mid tier dinosaurs. Apexes currently trade any and all survivability in exchange for speed, power and toughness. Excelling in all 3 is fairly ridiculous, and it's even more ridiculous that they can only fight and not live aside from that.
I found sacrificing most of your toughness and some of your power in exchange for survivability seemed reasonable.
mental sleet
yesh
jaunty jolt
Did the update delete Dino’s data?
mental sleet
@languid crag why ?
blazing charm
^
violet magnet
imagine spending 7 hours growing a rex but then a utah gets on your butt and there is literally nothing you can do about it
mental sleet
we have nycta as living evidence of at least similar cases.
random knoll
This generation knows nothing pff
mental sleet
lul
languid crag
knows nothing okay?
random knoll
The fact you didn’t get that makes me sad
languid crag
boi you dumb
obtuse meadow
how exactly do i ask the dev? if im not permitted?
blazing charm
@obtuse meadow That's the weekly Q&A, it happens every tuesday.
viral creek
@idle needle
W8. They actually injected more? OH GAWD NO
obtuse meadow
oh
viral creek
Hopefully they were just injecting for testing reasons
Kinda like what they did with the maia and diablo injections
viral creek
Looks wise, some? Maybe?
obtuse meadow
i need a confirmation...
viral creek
Definantly not ALL of the dinosaurs
blazing charm
Not entirely, there are always some creative liberties that are taken here and there.
obtuse meadow
the Individual Triceratops are estimated to have reached about 7.9 to 9.0 m (25.9–29.5 ft) in length, 2.9 to 3.0 m (9.5 to 9.8 ft) in height,
viral creek
Their trike model looks pretty darn accurate, idk about you
obtuse meadow
i meant the size
blazing charm
Unless I'm mistaken, and if I am please correct me. The Isle uses the largest known specimen sizes for the dinosaurs.
Why is a 1 meter difference bothering you so much?
viral creek
I'm unsure about that
I don't care about the size that much, I rarely notice the difference ingame, and the model looks plausible
The only model I'd say that is like...
Super inaccurate is the utah
blazing charm
Or the Dilo venom.
viral creek
Keyword: Model
blazing charm
Oh right, sorry. Forgot that's what it was about.
unborn quail
iirc, it depends on the creature and the size of each individual specimen for Dino sizing's
viral creek
I was close to including velo, as super inaccurate... but velo's body and skull shape is pretty accurate. Even without feathers.
unborn quail
Ex: Cerato is about the size of the largest specimen, Sucho and Allo are the size of their average sizes
If I had to guess, sizes are based on relation to other things in your tier.
obtuse meadow
its bothering me because of the pachyrhinosaurus that the isle is using on their wiki, its 3m, and the pachy and the trice should be both 3m, not 4 and 3
unborn quail
Wiki
viral creek
Wiki
unborn quail
Never use the Wiki as a reliable source
blazing charm
The Isle has many different fan created Wikis, all of them are incredivly outdated or just flat out wrong.
obtuse meadow
i use a bunch of sources
blazing charm
Such as?
viral creek
Tbh the discord is best for gathering info
unborn quail
The game itself is best for gathering info on Dinosaur stats/balancing
violet magnet
best source for dino sizes right now is the character info screen with the size charts in-game
viral creek
That too
blazing charm
Not really.
obtuse meadow
https://www.newdinosaurs.com/pachyrhinosaurus/ http://www.fossilmall.com/Pangaea/pdino/pd37/pd37.htm http://dinosaurpictures.org/Pachyrhinosaurus-pictures https://blog.everythingdinosaur.co.uk/blog/_archives/2013/06/28/juvenile-dinosaur-fossil-from-within-the-arctic-circle.html https://www.britannica.com/animal/Pachyrhinosaurus
ive read more than those
random knoll
Wait are we talking about a 1 meter differences?
unborn quail
Realism. Doesn't. Apply. To. This. Game.
blazing charm
^
unborn quail
This game isn't purely based on realism. Quite a few dinosaur sizes are over exaggerated/under-exaggerated for balance purposes and pure looks
random knoll
I mean we have hypos
normal fern
What are the over exaggerated ones?
unborn quail
iirc Cerato and Pachy are the main two that are over exaggerated
obtuse meadow
the devs dont care about me, no one does but i just want to say, i just want to be satisfied with the pachyrhinosaurus, theyre currently using the perototum, im my case, id love if they used the lakustai
blazing charm
I mean, Pachyrhino isn't even in game. And it's been said numerous times that it'll probably just end up being an expansion dinosaur.
unborn quail
Only issue is Pachyrhino isn't in the game. So as it stands, any argument relating to it is irrelevant to the games current state
obtuse meadow
i know but, i just wanna ask the devs, about the future of the pachy
and if the trice 4m, then the pachy should be it to
the were estimated to be the same height
but not the same lenght
blazing charm
Again, it's a game.
blazing charm
JINX
obtuse meadow
this is why i cant talk with people
viral creek
Screw pachyrhino
unborn quail
You can't beat the man in gold
blazing charm
????
viral creek
Go pachycephalo
blazing charm
What is that supposed to mean?
random knoll
“People” mate you ain’t an alien
blazing charm
We're being completely civil.
obtuse meadow
oh sorry... people like yall
blazing charm
random knoll
So smart people?
viral creek
I don't know why you guys are even arguing about the size of an animal that's not ingame yet in the 1st place
We don't know what size pachyrhino is ingame
Because it has never been ingame
blazing charm
^Since you were asking about "Pachyrhino's future"
obtuse meadow
i dont wanna seem rude
blazing charm
Buuuuut?
barren zephyr
rood
obtuse meadow
cuuck me
obtuse meadow
"honestly pachyrhino would just be triceratops but worse cause it cant stab" well my dream for the pachy is over, ill just go back and play jurassic park evolution and admire the sinoceratop.... because its kind of alike the pachy
random knoll
Ok buddy you have fun
blazing charm
That's awfully pessimistic.
Why not actually try to constructively push for Pachyrhinosuarus if you really want it that badly?
violet magnet
why are we getting upset about a dino that's not coming to the game anytime soon
blazing charm
There's literally no confirmation about Troodon, atleast none that I know of.
random knoll
Hey at least deino might get in eyyyyy
split notch
The superior one
hazy sparrow
There is no in-game gamma option, if people are doing that externally, it's not really the devs issue imo :/
shut field
https://jurassicoutpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/jama-jurabaev-stygimoloch.jpg Gimme Stygimoloch, if just because it's got a sweet name
a smaller pachy with neato horns
echo bridge
i like the idea of ambush doing unique things for each dino but it would have to use so much more stam than it currently does otherwise it would be completely unbalanced
viral creek
Dayum fancy lookin baby though
viral creek
I like the ambush idea, but I think it'd be pretty unbalanced unless there's something like an ambush cooldown
viral creek
So it's used more like a proper ambush mechanic than a combat mechanic
thorny lynx
There we go. I added a nerf
crystal turret
If you make ambush even more useful I think it's time to consider giving herbivores some kind of 'ambush' mechanic designed to aid in escaping.
pure copper
@dreamy basin never use docs like that for updated info
thorny lynx
@dreamy basin Allos are strong enough as it is. Why do you think allosaurus is named A. fragilis? It had a weak bite.
It is supposed to bite fast with relatively low damage.
leaden night
It's A. fragilis Don't needlessly buff Allo
pure copper
It was named A.fragilis because paleontologists name things odd titles for kicks and memories
Not because it’s bite was pathetic
We literally have a small abelisaurid named Thanos
I shit you not
jovial skiff
@dreamy basin why exactly do you think so.
wintry cipher
going off that video he wants allo to be bigger and stronger than cerato which it already is. so....
🤷
boreal helm
it has more health than a cera, not as much bf
unborn quail
'A. Fragilis means it had a weak bite'
News flash, the name means Different Lizard, not 'weak bite force'
leaden night