Well When ark came out on ps4 i couldn't even join a server all full i mean really all were full could be the same here
#general-feedback-discussion
barren zephyr
look im not saying ark is a better game
it just has
alot mroe content
and way more money
and i think mroe devs
and a larger community
and more people wanting it on console
personally
i fucking hate ark
but
Same got raided lile every day
like
its not the raiding
its how the gameplay works
if your not in
4+ hours a day
working on stuff
you dont even have a chance
Ye thats true
at being usefull or defending yourself
not only that
the community is fucking toxic
and i dont care for the devs but
this isnt for here this would be for #401510382981742593
Well im watching The isle gameplay rn and i love it kinda hurts that it will never get on console coz i don't have 1500 for a gamer pc
pearl yoke
You can get one that can run TI for like 400-600 USD
next nexus
build your own PC, you dont have to spend half that amount to get a PC to run the isle at decent to good settings
pearl yoke
Mine runs at epic near flawlessly
pearl yoke
Yæs
barren zephyr
my new rtx 2080 got shiped fuckin
BROKE
so yknow
fun times
Well thx for all the info guys Have fun playing it gtg now cya
bye, sorry about everything
brisk mesa
@verbal acorn I seriously dunno how you run into so few players;
I respawned in as a Juvi Carno, and I'm hearing a taco, a juvi Utah and a juvi Carno. Run into forest from beach. Find a juvi Maia & 2 oros. Encounter 3 adult Carnos. Hear an adult Utah off in distance. Two Sub Gigas approach. This was yesterday... when I logged off after seeing a pack of 3 adult Utahs, I was at 0.77 growth.
17 minutes and I saw 3 AI, at least 11 players.
I logged in to resume growing.
Found 4 adult Carnos, 2 adult Utahs, 2 other juvi Carnos, 2 Oros and I hear a Taco. I run further inland, join with 2 other juvi carnos. Find a juvi Trex and 2 Oros. I saw the Juvi Trex as I was about to click grow. My attempt at tracking it fails, and I find an Adult Cerato, a fresh adult Carno. I'm 0.68 adult after I cannibalize on a juvi.
brisk mesa
So IDFK what I'm doing different.
barren zephyr
7 utahs
it was the only thing i sa that day
cause they saw me two
as a little dilo
brisk mesa
I seriously have no idea what I'm doing right.
But I've never, ever struggled to find players on Dev 4.
brisk mesa
Oh and, after I cannibalized I found a juvi trike in a tree.
barren zephyr
now make dilo faster
brisk mesa
So I felt guilty for eating my friend who I was in VC with
brisk mesa
when like, not even 200m away there was a Juvi trike
barren zephyr
he broke the n1 rule
brisk mesa
barren zephyr
now you may be an ass for killing him but
he shoudla known better
than to trust you
soemoen go dilo with me so we can cry together
brisk mesa
Nah we are in a group together, we've played before and they kinda accepted that if they didnt find food, they were food
barren zephyr
ok well
brisk mesa
So they frantically ran around trying to find tacos...
barren zephyr
go dilo with me
brisk mesa
No.
barren zephyr
w h y
verbal acorn
I’m not sure either,
I just heard a 2nd Dilo
brisk mesa
Jeez.
I guess you are just, really unlucky, or im really lucky.
I've not once gone more than 15min without seeing something I'm not in group with.
verbal acorn
Not sure...
brisk mesa
Allos, Gigas, Herbivores, Carnos, Utahs, Trexes etc
Shit is everywhere on my end.
As for making large dinosaurs quieter, you do realize they are already a bitch to hear?
Sometimes you don't hear them running.
Seriously.
Their sprinting sound, unless your camera is facing their way, is bloody silent.
I was hunting a herd, as a Carno pack earlier.
Trikes can actually ninja you if you are not vigillant.
Shit runs silently.
Turn towards them, and it's loud.
Gigas make barely any noise when sprinting.
Hopefully sound bugs are fixed.
Because it's kinda entirely dependant on where you look...
I'd like a screen shake...
bc at least you'd know they were there
A Giga can be ambushing 10ft from you and you wont even hear it until you look towards it.
jade schooner
I'd opt more for a low sound, rather than a shake
verbal acorn
Granted, I’m a juvi Giga right now, so Im not exactly looking for encounters. But during that trek, I got 1 AI at spawn in, then one at .595 juvi, then .623
brisk mesa
That's so weird lol.
Maybe suicide for better spawns?
Sounds like you are popping up in fucking dead space
No Man's Sky spawns
verbal acorn
I spawned beach just SE of the pillar
brisk mesa
I'm... idek how this happens to you
I have to admit you must be having an entirely different gameplay experience from me
So I'll cut all my dissing of your ideas because quite frankly like, IDK what to even think anymore.
IK that, your changes, for someone as lucky / not unlucky, it would be gamebreaking
verbal acorn
Must be, it drives me nuts and I’ve done it so much I can almost call it
brisk mesa
Like your hunger ideas all of that? If it applied on me, it would be too OP.
A server could be full of people as 'lucky' as me all running around apex.
And yet from your experience
which I can't deny anymore as being valid
There'd maybe be 20 apexes on a server at most.
barren zephyr
what
brisk mesa
His experience, like yours, of desolation
barren zephyr
there is the problem
barren zephyr
thats 20 people not playing dilo
verbal acorn
And you have a high survival rate with apexes with all those chance meetings as a juvi and sub-adult?
jovial arch
i literally
found
5 players
within my first 5 minutes
of gameplay
Swear to god
literally ran to my first lake and there were 4 juvies there
brisk mesa
^^^^^
I'm not saying I survive much.
I;m saying I actually run into shit
SO much shit
jovial arch
between now and 3:55 when istarted playing today i have seen
one sec
lemme count
12 players including myself
verbal acorn
Keep in mind, I also play solo...so I don’t have a high level of out-goingness early on. But I play to survive. Avoid big things, I seek out littles one’s
jovial arch
i was playing solo
and i also play to survive
i only died
because i severely underestimated carnos
there was a fresh prog carno that was much smaller than me
and i was a fresh prog allo
and uh
i ambushed it successfully but it just kind bit me once
and i nearly bled out
I lost almost all my stam
and a giga chased me down
verbal acorn
I have a high rate of reaching sub-adult and adult...I’m just always entering adult starving. So my ability to roam deminishes significantly. I always die 5-10mins into adulthood
jovial arch
what dino tho
jovial arch
no rex
barren zephyr
you betray the dilo brothergood
barren zephyr
gros
jovial arch
to be fair though
dilo is probably my most played
next to carno
ait a minute
@verbal acorn
r u talking about apex?
verbal acorn
I wreck house with carnos
verbal acorn
Yeah apex only
I started hunting Trike babies guarded by trikes for fun...it got too easy
jovial arch
I would rate dilo as only as good as cerato rn
brisk mesa
I've honestly found so many Sub Gigas that are fucking starving as they reach adult
jovial arch
probably worse tbh
verbal acorn
That’s when I went 100% apex
brisk mesa
Like
I'll find a sub Giga
he grows while my Carno is eating his soul
and starves the fuck to death right in front of me.
verbal acorn
Just heard 1 or 2 of something, sounded like a herbivore and maybe a Utah bark. If I was tad bigger, I’d be out looking for whatever it was. But I have food
brisk mesa
It doesnt just suck
jovial arch
sub giga can't defend itself or run
brisk mesa
It grows into a dino with Cerato hunger but
unlike juvi Cerato
who can go with very little food
shit is already near starving when it grows
upper cedar
@barren zephyr that's where the safe log requirement comes from, or body disappearing
barren zephyr
what
brisk mesa
Sub Giga turns like a bus, can't heal for crap, does fuckall bleed, needs to eat a lot, and grows to a fresh prog adult Giga that is equally useless
leaden night
^
jovial arch
max sub giga isn't that bad
brisk mesa
jovial arch
i know that max sub rex is a lot better tho
jovial arch
eh
jovial arch
i defended myself from a pack of utahs for like 10 minutes to prog
brisk mesa
Carno can facetank
jovial arch
i've got it on cam
barren zephyr
make dilo eter
brisk mesa
Carno cannot even facetank a Carno
verbal acorn
Yeah it kind of does, I can’t readily go out and position near food sources until I’m a late sub-adult. But by .75 - .80 they are already starting to starve the sub-Giga.
leaden night
Because
barren zephyr
and weak
brisk mesa
Because he doesnt have custom animations
jovial arch
i guess giga gets to have a shit sub
barren zephyr
and usless in every way
leaden night
Sausages with legs are slow
jovial arch
rex gets to have a shit adult
brisk mesa
He has amazing stamina
And doesnt need to drink
Only needs 40min growth time
is really cute
Uh
leaden night
Easy pz
jovial arch
only needs to eat once
brisk mesa
I'm sure there's something else it does
barren zephyr
sounds like a frog
brisk mesa
It's like a Baby Cheetah but
leaden night
Dryo
Amazing stamina
Drinks constantly
15 minutes
Omega adorable
Something
brisk mesa
It doesnt die at birth
jovial arch
it takes like 10 times longer to regen stam tho
barren zephyr
its still usless
jovial arch
i swear
it's like 5min
6 min
maybe more
tbh carno juvie is just sitting around and afking
brisk mesa
Your stamina lets you run all the way to Narnia and back
jovial arch
like
brisk mesa
Pff
jovial arch
getting up just gets you killed
jovial arch
well I mean
brisk mesa
I run around as Juvi Carno
jovial arch
why would you play
brisk mesa
Like yo
jovial arch
and dream about hunting them?
brisk mesa
it was so fucking awesome
barren zephyr
h o w
jovial arch
^
jovial arch
verbal acorn
If this Giga starves, maybe I’ll try Rex again. Just Rex isn’t really my play style. I went Giga because it’s adult speed and bleed was supposed to keep me more self-sufficient as a solo player hunting an abundance of medium to small prey items...with the occasional large prey item as opportunity provided.
The thing is, my prey opportunities as an adult are way to far and few in between
jovial arch
i would say that sub giga could do with a buff
and dont shoot yourself in the foot
don't play rex
just dont
but sub giga doesn't need it
it's just so fast in terms of growth
leaden night
Make sub Giga run faster than Allo, turn better than Galli and do the same bleed as Dilo while doing the same raw as adult rex
jovial arch
but with alt turn you can make it work
jovial arch
I have actually fought a pack of 4 utahs
brisk mesa
in open but mildly forested ground
brisk mesa
and the Sub Giga even alt turning
struggled HARD
I'd run around trees
and dart in
it was tragic
jovial skiff
Carno worst enemies are rocks and trees
Flash backs to when I got stopped by a tree and got killed by a Allosaurus
verbal acorn
For me, I just need sub-Giga to run a tad bit faster or do more damage and tank better if it’s to be slow
Anything to make it more viable out on the hunt at .75 sub
verbal acorn
Carno breaks its legs too easy
I guess my biggest issue is that when I play Survival, I survive....but Survival at apex adult rapidly turns into a starvation fueled made dash of desperation at .75 sub. You aren’t allowed to play smart, you don’t have the prey opportunities to sustain the hunger drain. It’s no longer a paced experience for the apex predator...well, in my experience that is.
I’m going to log back in a few minutes. I’m at .72, so I know the starvation period is coming in about 45mins.
I’m going to push out at .75, but the truth is, the .75 sub-Giga isn’t ready for prime-time.
thorny lynx
I wish sub rex had a better bleed resistance. Even if it was a maxed sub, 100 bleed takes away 93% of its health and that is only if it lays down the whole time. I can't imagine a sub rex surviving a full 3 bleed unless it got bit by a dilo.
thorny lynx
Then nerf para.
It's too fast anyway
Why are you hunting paras as a dilo, anyway? Your menu consists of AI, juvies, raptors, gallies, and dryos when you are soloing...
coarse shell
its not so much hunting paras
thorny lynx
Anything bigger than a dibble is a waste, even in a pack.
coarse shell
its encountering them
thorny lynx
Then run before it sees you.
You get too close to an aggro para, that's your fault.
Yeah, maybe it could use just a bit more speed in its ambush and run speed, but not too much. Maybe a mile an hour faster at most for sprint
coarse shell
i feel like you havent heard of people's complaints of "this herbi saw me from a mile away and ran me down and killed me"
thats probably exactly what happens w dilo and para
thorny lynx
Nova's speed tier suggestion solves all those problems. I wish devs would look into it.
And I'm aware of the dilo and para phenomenon. I just don't find it practical for a Para to go out of it's way to isolate itself from the herd to kill a dilo. Yeah, I got KOSed by a para who ran me down when I was a juvie rex, and yes, I feel paras need a nerf.
Yes, I feel dilos need a speed boost. But, you should not be out in the open for a para to see you. You are brightly colored and you are a night hunter. Stay in the forest, where the big orange pancake can't run through trees as good as it could when it is running through plains.
I'm pretty sure proper speed tiers will be established when pachy, sucho, the new cerato, stego, and anky come to survival and when the combat overhaul is in progress.
barren zephyr
THAT IS
@coarse shell
exactly
what happend
para saw me
and ran me down
no reason too
was lone dilo
during day
wasnt gunnu take chances
but para is faster than me so decidedto run me down and kill me
lone crypt
@barren zephyr dilo is OP right now with its insane bleed, and grouping makes it worse. dilo also grows really fast and has the best night vision in the game. dilo needs anything BUT a speed boost.
thorny lynx
Ambushing dilos can barely outpace ambushing allos. Not to mention, allos can run 50 seconds longer than they can.
violet magnet
so give it better stam instead of more speed?
how does dilo's stam compare to maia and para?
thorny lynx
Dilo can run for 2 minutes and... 30 seconds? Allos can run for 3 minutes and 20 seconds.
Idk about Maia and para. The problem is, paras are able to chase down and kill something that wouldn't mess with them, anyway.
And dilos csn barely outpace allos when they both ambush.
Honestly, once combat balancing and affinity rolls around, we won't be having these 'para chased me down and killed me" issues because chasing down carnivores who are not even close to your herd would probably mess up your affinity.
Not to mention, speed balancing.
violet magnet
@lone crypt were you by any chance on a server without alt turn?
jovial arch
dilo ambush is an abomination at only 1.1 or 110% of normal speed
combined with the fact that it along with utah is one of the only two dinos you can actually hear coming up behind you
Dilo, who is pretty much supposed to be the stealth dino of the game, is ultimately one of the worst dinos in the game when it actually comes to ambushing things
if Dilo ambush was just a tad bit higher, like 1.2
it would be so much better
violet magnet
the Stealth Bomber playstyle has worked out pretty well for me on dilo and utah tho
jovial arch
utah has the speed to back it up
i guess with dilo
it's possible?
but like
the biggest problem is people can hear you coming
from very far away
and your ambush mult doesn't actually give you the speed you need to get in there
with even rex, if you come up behind someone in ambush they won't hear you
but dilo?
they hear you from very far away
at least 10 meters
probably more like 20
rex can get within like 5 meters before someone hears it if it's coming from the right angle
lone crypt
its normal running speed is literally the same as a juvie giga's
an adult rex
runs as fast
as a juvie goddamn giga
violet magnet
@pulsar lake put that video to some music and the dang hypo rex headbangs
that's a lotta movement for a simple broadcast
icy venture
viral creek
The whole salt plain idea sounds really cool and all, but idk if our map is actually big enough in order to make crossing that kind of biome actually dangerous, while still leaving room for other kinds of biomes. Unless you add something like an increased hunger or thirst drain status effect in said biome.
barren zephyr
@unborn quail What do you mean by getting fixed next patch
unborn quail
compact coyote
shame
barren zephyr
they arnt prioritizing mod kit
cause dev kit isnt gunnu put the game fwd
its gunnu give individual servers mods that dont impact the game as a whole
last remnant
@viral creek you mean v3?
I think the salt plains could be an interesting mod idea
I feel like we already have enough maps, and adding it to an existing part of a map to me sounds like it could be clunky.
umbral prairie
It's cool in theory, but I feel like someone's just gonna patrol the 'paradise' border to either eat everything, or if it is a trike( or other big herbi) prevent any carni from entering and forcing it to die
barren zephyr
"Please prioritize the one thing that helps 0%"
umbral prairie
xD
barren zephyr
Thats the opposite of development if we are playing on random garbage modded servers and not on officials or dev servers
still temple
one does not simply under estimate dryo's size
nimble junco
how to get a hypo rex ???
covert shore
I know they aren’t super small
But I’ve seen things that Dryos can get into but Utah’s and Gallis can’t
lament thorn
you cant Shrek
nimble junco
why sthat
thorny lynx
Because they are exclusive to devs, right now.
lament thorn
they arent finished
thorny lynx
Not even server owners have access to strains.
nimble junco
ok can I ask you one more question
My mods are not working I ve tried all the things I could find
thorny lynx
Mods don't work since we do not have a devkit.
nimble junco
but they worked before ?!
lament thorn
dev kit worked before now it doesnt
nimble junco
but why doesnt it work anymore do devs even talk about it
brisk mesa
I'm sure you've played games where updates break a mod.
Because a Dev sabotaged everything
When he got the boot.
They are still cleaning up after his messes.
thorny lynx
Basically, a dev deleted the devkit files out of spite after Dondi fired him and now we cannot have mods.
nimble junco
ok thanks so they will enable it in the future
brisk mesa
Eventually a new devkit will be built.
IDK if any of the old mods would work tho, even then...
for all we know the new devkit wouldnt be compatible with the old mods.
¯_(ツ)_/¯
nimble junco
ok thanks
fading shadow
it isnt
verbal acorn
I hate that we just spontaneously drop dead. I prefer a much slower, debilitating process that leaves you vulnerable to predation way before you ever actually die.
Starvation could a gradual lose in HP, but full depletion. Coupled with a severe reduction in stamina cap and regeneration. And a gradual reduction in damage output.
That way you become weak, but semi-functional. Vulnerable to prey and predators a like. So you can die on your feet trying...that is, until you choose to give in or truly succumb much later. But by then, you’d be a trembling, weak mess.
finite perch
having some sort of collapsing system for hunger/weakness would work very well, because then titanoboa could potentially enduce this in others. additionally, it could be tied into some sort of 'sleeping' stamina regen
sorta like a hunter who cant find the deer they shot, you have to be good at tracking as well as hunting
jovial skiff
@barren zephyr Stegosaurus, Theri, & shant aren't really in survival
so if they ever get added to survival they prob will get new stats
but for Trike
I think 2 Rexes can kill it if skilled enough
barren zephyr
Im just saying my point of how long this has been happening
barren zephyr
It shouldn't be 2 rexes though. In reality tyrannosaurus rex hunted alone which in this game is a death wish
barren zephyr
The most common food in this game is bloody utahraptors
jovial arch
Why do carnivores only excel at hunting carnivores?
Everybody bitches about there not being enough herbivores
But let’s be real here
jovial arch
All the herbis that have recently come in
jovial arch
They’ve only served to make gameplay worse
jovial skiff
Maiasaura get destroyed by Carno
and Diablo gets caught up by allos so 5 allos destroy it
jovial arch
The game is not better with lots of herbs in it
leaden night
One Allo dooms a Dibble
jovial arch
It’s just not
jovial skiff
I mean Ditto from my experience at the very least
languid ember
the dibble does have the advantage tho, higher damage output
barren zephyr
And turn radius
leaden night
The problem is surviving the encounter
jovial arch
5 hits to 4 hits, Allo lives dibble dies
leaden night
Dibble tends to bleed out after
jovial skiff
I feel like Dibble got the nerf hammer to hard in my opinion
jovial arch
Yes
languid ember
allo and dibble both have about the same bleed res and heal
jovial skiff
but I agree that a 7 ton trike should not turn like a ballerina
jovial arch
Dibble is shit
Tbh
The only reason it’s any good is because herbis mixed pack and swarm up
And then nothing can hunt them
Honestly
Herbis are just usually dead space in terms of actual playercount
Once adult
They just join a megapack
And like
jovial skiff
herbie gameplay is kinda boring tbh
thats why people kos and kill
because they get bored of eating bushes
jovial arch
They take up a server slot and nothing hunts them
It’s honestly pretty stupid
ESP with trike being practically untouchable
U just get 8 trikes at swamp spam 1 calling
jovial arch
Rex packs starve
jovial skiff
its a cycle of shit
jovial skiff
buff one or nerf u ruin the other ur trying to stop
jovial arch
You can interact with them and they starve
4 rexes won’t live for long unless they get lucky
4 trikes rn is just untouchable
Leading cause of death is suicide
languid ember
rn the only real counter to trike is a giga pack
languid ember
yeah i hate getting oneshot by a taco, op lil shit
leaden night
Then it'll just be the herb growth situtation with carnis
jovial arch
What?
leaden night
Hiding in some random place in the map
jovial skiff
like .5 AI for each player?
jovial arch
Uh
More like 1 for the first, then 50% of what it is now for each after
But yeah
Pretty close
lone crypt
Why did they ever get rid of the old Rex
jovial arch
Bug
leaden night
Making herbs who flee as their main defense have an attack sort of like Galli' standing kick would help the situation
barren zephyr
Cause it's horrically inaccurate
barren zephyr
They're making the game realistic so
jovial arch
10% max hp?
lone crypt
Like, why not give current Rex the same stats as the old one
Rex and giga aren’t really fun
barren zephyr
They're balanced
lone crypt
Emphasis on Rex
lone crypt
They spent so much time worrying about balance they forgot about it actually being fun
jovial arch
can't disagree it could really use an extra mph in ambush
barren zephyr
@lone crypt I don't think you realise how games work, or that having by one op creature ruins it for everything else -_-
jovial arch
like, even in ambush, rex is <0.4 mph faster than all the things it can catch except for trike
and I'm not really sure
how rex ruins anything
like
Aside from when i played cerato
i like having rexes around
they kick out the gigas
kick out the allos
spawn in a ton of ai
and they can't catch you
if you're paying attention at all
dilo, utah, carno, I'll gladly stick around in areas with rexes
they're like
actually really nice to have around
leaden night
They were nice when you weren't a Triceratops
jovial arch
I mean
If rex gets 10% damage back
im not gonna disagree that trike should get like an extra 100 damage
but i still think something needs to hunt trike
and yes
actually
something more like 200 damage would probably be more fair
yeh
stomp also needs more flat damage
like an extra 500 would probably do
and then
i mean
rex still wins
but trike winning is back on the table
leaden night
Or you could just lower Triceratops' weight and make it immune to the 10%
leaden night
Giga will consistently be way better than rex though
jovial arch
gotta disagree
it's all about how you balance it
if trike is exclusively hunted by rex
i don't really see
why that's a problem
leaden night
Being able to hunt multiple things consistently > being reliant on one food source
jovial arch
yes
which is why i also think rex should have a slight increase to ambush
1 mph would give it the speed it needs to actually catch things
rn it's only got lik 0.4 mph in ambush on giga/dibble
leaden night
Dibble escapes if its not head length away
languid ember
Rex ambush is like 30.9ish km/h
lone crypt
That’s still laughably low compared to the other apexes, and most of the other dinos in general
leaden night
If it allows rex to actually hunt things if it plays its cards right so what
lone crypt
@barren zephyr I know that, which is why I think that the old stats should be brought back.
Think about it
The old Rex couldn’t turn for shit when running
It’s turn when running was slower than carno
It may have been quick, but it ran out of stam really fast
If the old stats were put in, the only change should be the Rex’s bite (Op anyways, take it down to 400 Newtons max), it’s ability to break legs, and it’s footsteps while stalking should be mildly, mildly louder to give prey a chance to hear it coming
languid ember
Not really, needs more
leaden night
Well yeah
lone crypt
If the new Rex were to get the old rex’s stats, it would need a minor nerf
lone crypt
Runs out of stam faster than any other dinosaur and has shit turn radius while sprinting
brisk mesa
Yeah the shit turn forces it to basically be a shotgun.
Its fast and fucking deadly but
See it coming and you step to the side.
It's not fast as hell, it was slow by Progression standards.
His speed is 1000 cm/s.
So that changed Trex would be slower than a Dilo
with agility during sprint worse than Carno.
And nonexistant stamina.
@jovial skiff
jovial skiff
👌
brisk mesa
Granted, that change to Trex would make him faster than Allo, and IK some people would have massive triggering at that.
unborn quail
brisk mesa
I don't remember the sprint time, but IK it was silly low.
Infact
That Trex would not be able to run down Trikes from a distance
like at all.
He'd need to get close to actually do shit.
leaden night
Still would be better than reworking Giga to old Giga
Also Triceratops being able to run outside of an ambush 🤔
lone crypt
The old Rex’s turn during a sprint makes trike’s turn look like it can just instantly face any direction it wanted
Out of a sprint, it’s turn is slightly better than the current giga
But the thing has such low stam
It’s not balanced in the perfect way
But goddamn is it fun
barren zephyr
@lone crypt can u type them in 1 message and not 5
lone crypt
lol
hasty ore
Ik this isn’t place, but I want to do the ask a dev thing but the channel is read only for me?
sweet oasis
It opens every Tuesday.
mellow fox
Ummm
Hello
Can I ask what is a Dibble? I keep reading it and don't have the slightest clue
leaden night
Diabloceratops
agile whale
It's a Diabloceratops
^
Basically smaller faster trike with I think actually more horns
Something like that
mellow fox
Ah okay
leaden night
It's a sub-adult Triceratops but slightly more functional as an animal
mellow fox
Yeah, I have seen them, they are smaller, cuter ceratopsians than Trike.
agile whale
Actually if you go into #videos-and-streams there's a clip from one of Dondi's streams that Ghostaway posted, and in that clip he's a diablo
But yeah the community has named it dibble for whatever reason
mellow fox
Yeah, okay, gotcha. I just didn't know Diablo = Dibble
agile whale
👌
lone crypt
@mellow fox bold of you to assume that rex could kill a saurapod considering how slow it is in the game right now
no but seriously rex is hot garbage and the old one was far better
it wasnt accurate
but at least it was worth the 6 goddamn hours
mellow fox
I mean, I am not debating the balance of the current T.rex, that I don't want to getting into because I am currently maining the Giganotosaurus
And don't want to put input into the Rex debate until I have played Rex enough
lone crypt
i used to think giga was strong cuz it could kill rex
but its not that giga is strong
just rex sucks
mellow fox
Again
lone crypt
you dont need much experience to know that its not worth it
mellow fox
I don't talk about Rex balance so please drop that argument
mellow fox
What I was saying is that from a scientific and design standpoint, a Rex should be one of the few carnivores being capable of killing a sauropod
lone crypt
yeah and i agree that it should
mellow fox
That's it, I don't understand why do you come at me so aggressively with the whole argument of T rex being bad when that is not what I was saying at all and wasn't the topic anyway
Sorry if I was rude, but I don't like when people come up into my face with their agenda when I was talking about something different
hexed quarry
Are you going for scientific accuracy for the rex taking down a sauropod?
lone crypt
and sorry if i came off as trying to push my agenda, i was just making a comment and i dont like when people say shit like "idc" when im trying to make a point
totally not an aggressive person lol
mellow fox
@hexed quarry T.Rex coexisted with Alamosaurus. I am pretty sure it would take advantage of such a huge piece of meat with the bone crunching jaws it has, especially in a pack
Probably not going for a full grown adult, but still
hexed quarry
@mellow fox An adult Trex would only be able to go after juviniles. The Rex does have bone crushing jaws, but in grabbing a giant like a sauropod the ability to lose balance and break a leg was far to great
mellow fox
@lone crypt Yeah, I kinda got annoyed after you haven't noticed my attempts to shift back the focus of the balance of the T.Rex, so that is why I said I don't care. Apologies for that
hexed quarry
the rex was actually too top heavy with those jaws. amazing evolutionary form
rex is one of the few specimens ive actually been able to dig up fully, and its amazing to see the balance beam aspect
mellow fox
Well, obviously, a 30 meters non-injured, non-sick Alamosaurus is no joke to triffle with
But you also have to consider that this is a game, after all
hexed quarry
true
mellow fox
And I do believe making the sauropod only huntable by hypos would be a bit too attractive of a choice
hexed quarry
there was one large carnivore that was actually made to tackle adult sauropods, and that was the acro
lone crypt
i thought acro's jaws and teeth werent meant for larger prey?
hexed quarry
the vertebra in the neck lock together when biting and hanging on to something
mellow fox
Doesn't Mapusaurus fit that bill as well? I mean, not the neck locking
hexed quarry
the jaws were slender and the teeth are knives. The idea is that it hangs on long enough to get a good deep wound, then lets go
Mapusaurus, even in packs, would not go after an adult argentinosaurus
but even a juvi or sub adult argentino is massive
mellow fox
I mean, obviously not, but that is because Argentinosaurus is ridiculously big
And oversized even for a sauropod
hexed quarry
no kidding there
its now estimated at almost 97 tonnes
killing style comes into play with something attacking a large sauropod as well
something like allosaurus, if running in an attacking in short bursts on the legs or tail, will cause shock and even blood loss
honestly, discussions like this is why i became a paleontologist
lol
mellow fox
But I doubt even an Acrocanthosaurus would go toe to toe with something so overly big. Like, out of Astrodon and Sauroposeidon, Acrocanthosaurus would obviously prefer going for the smaller one
hexed quarry
Any carnivore will go after the easiest prey: the young, old, sick, or injured. If an acro came across an elderly adult at the end of life, it had the means to take it down. A fully healthy adult, unless the acro is starving, it usually wont risk it
mellow fox
Yeah pretty much
hexed quarry
now, if you have a pack, then the chances of taking down larger prey increase, but its never a given
mellow fox
But for a game, you have to consider some balancing. So I don't think Allosaurus, T. Rex, Giga and Acro being able to tackle with the Brachiosaurus is that far fetched
mellow fox
Especially because it's not that ridiculously massive anyway, compared the actual counterparts coexisting with those carnivores
hexed quarry
but a massive animal like a brachi i can see having some serious bleed out issues
hexed quarry
or Amargasaurus
mellow fox
So even those apex predators need dedication to bring it down
And you could even introduce some new balancing possibilities. As far as I am aware, Acrocanthosaurus wasn't that great before removed from survival
hexed quarry
that would be cool
mellow fox
But what if it was given a mechanic that could give it an edge against Brachiosaurus specifically
hexed quarry
hmm
mellow fox
I like that idea of clinging onto things
hexed quarry
like a vs species buff
acro couldnt do it for more than a few seconds, but that was more than enough
mellow fox
And the duration and the amount of damage it deals is based off of hp
So it would be usable but not OP against something like a Rex
hexed quarry
yep
mellow fox
And give it a niche as being the best sauropod killer
hexed quarry
well, largest sauropod killer
mellow fox
Whatever you want to call him ^^
mellow fox
Yeah, I guess you are right
But Allos are already really solid
They don't need a buff 😃
hexed quarry
so true
mellow fox
And I definitely want to see Acro back
hexed quarry
there was one species of allo that was the top though
mellow fox
Well, isn't that considered a... Ummm
Megalosaurid now? Or has that bounced back again?
Or now it is part of the Allosaurus genus again?
hexed quarry
its stuff up for debate really. there have only been 2 specimens found
mellow fox
Seriously, Saurophaganax
hexed quarry
lol
mellow fox
Is like changing positions every 5 minutes
hexed quarry
well, thats pretty normal in paleontology until you find more specimens
mellow fox
Sometimes it's a big Allosaurus, sometimes it's an Allosaurid but not Allosaurus, sometimes it is a megalosaurid
hexed quarry
lol
hexed quarry
lol but that one we solidified
mellow fox
Well, yeah, because the good old Grizzly chicken
hexed quarry
lol
hexed quarry
remember the only specimen we had of Deinocheirus was its arms
then we found almost a complete skeleton
mellow fox
And not being binge eaten like the prehistoric KFC Tuesday bucket it was by Tarbosaurus
Yeah, cause motherloving Tarbosaurus ate like the rest 👌 😂
lone crypt
i have a book (long lost now) that depicted deinocheirus as an oversized gallimimus
hexed quarry
foryears it was thought to be a therizinosaur
mellow fox
Deinocheirus is not a kfc bucket then
lone crypt
also gave microraptor no feathers and put acrocanthosuarus as a spinosaur
hexed quarry
0.o
mellow fox
It's a wok chicken with rice noodles
hexed quarry
uhhh lol\
lone crypt
and not one raptor had feathers
hexed quarry
that sounds like an old book
mellow fox
I still remember my dinosaur books
From the early 2000' when I was around 8 years old
hexed quarry
ahhh ok
lone crypt
ill try and dig it up sometime and post some images for people to get a kick out of
hexed quarry
lol nice
mellow fox
Velociraptor was always drawn like the ones from The Lost World Jurassic Park
I mean the pattern
lone crypt
yeah
mellow fox
I legit had 5 books
lone crypt
although the book i had actually got the size right
hexed quarry
yep that was the "good" reference they used
mellow fox
Every single one had Tiger striped monitor lizard Velociraptors
coarse shell
uhhh #401470471750811669 guys if you're no longer talking about the suggestion
mellow fox
Ups, sorry
lone crypt
or paleotalk
normal fern
drowsy sluice
@fiery iron "Doenut Asks: Can parents sniff their own nests?
Just to make things interesting. Can nesting parents be able to smell their own nests using scent? Their offspring as well until it's destroyed. Like a homing beacon. This way mothers can find it in they go off to hunt, and hatchlings can wonder off but always go back to eat from the nest.
Answer:
Players can already scent the eggs inside of a nest at short range. That said, the scent system is still a work in progress, and this is not a bad idea. Unfortunately, with the way the system works currently, if we added the ability to smell the nest itself right now then every dinosaur around would be able to scent it out, not just the parents. However, we will be adding back a nest marker for the owning parent in the future so they can easily locate it, alongside other UI additions to convey the nest’s current state better at a glance."
coarse shell
tl;dr they're adding back nest markers
fiery iron
yay
umbral prairie
@stoic crow they had a price reduction on TI over christmas, I don't think that there's gonna be one so shortly after
umbral prairie
I assumed action is supposed to mean price reduction/sale
umbral prairie
'Singularität' (the name)is german and in german something like this is sometimes called 'Sonderaktion' (translated word by word that means 'special action' )
jade schooner
@zenith ledge Even tho I like the idea, I'd advice against it due to knowing that when hunger and thirst go low they should go red. What could work tho would be a colour grading for when they start depleting (blue to red with water, orange(?) to red with hunger and green to yellow with stamina).
Or having those base colours you proposed but take red out of the possible palette
zenith ledge
Mmm yeah i legit forgot about the color shifting there
next nexus
pretty neat idea that would help people with colour blindness i guess
if you wanted to be real fancy you could have the HUD change colour depending on what base skin colour the player has selected for their dinosaur with the upcoming skin customization
native nebula
i think making the HUD more customizable is something we'll probably be looking into further down the line, for accessibility if nothing else. it would take a lot of restructuring of how the menus work in order to allow for that though, so I wouldn't expect anything soon.
lone crypt
@barren zephyr dilo is already a great speed, the thing can easily take on an adult Rex and kill it, and dilo doesn’t even take long to grow in the first place, and it also has the best night vision in the game, giving it an advantage in everyone’s least favorite part of the game
Dilo doesn’t need to be faster, it’s already fine the way it is
You also have to keep in mind the game is still in progress, eventually the issues you are having with herbs will be a thing of the past.
Until then, git gud
vestal rune
I think dilo is like 1000 m/ps while para is like 1080 m/ps
it's ridiculous that para is faster by dilo by such little, atleast make them the same speed
coarse shell
dilo needs to be faster than para cuz for one it didnt weigh the same as a fat ass hadrosaur
allo and para both fuck it up rn
languid ember
dilo is 1080 cm/s, para is 1100 cm/s
vestal rune
ah
literally like a 20 cm/s buff and it would be totally alright lol
it wouldn't change anything but it would allow a dilo to actually escape a para
coarse shell
does para have more stam than dilo
coarse shell
cuz if they were made the same speed, and para has more stam, thats not going to change things by a whole lot
lone crypt
Dilo gets fucked up because it has low health in turn for insane bleed and incredible night vision
It’s also a juvi killer, it’s not meant to take on such large prey
If you get fucked up as dilo, you simply need to be more careful
coarse shell
do you play dilo
lone crypt
Yeah
It’s fun when you actually use it right
And not go after dinos larger than you, which is always a bad idea for every Dino
Dilo is even better in groups, even mixed ones
coarse shell
utahs kill rexes
dilos kill rexes
allos kill rexes
the only issue is para being faster
thats why dilo doesnt go after it
lone crypt
Rex is broken sooo
coarse shell
people hunted rex even before the nerf dude
lone crypt
Yeah, so why does dilo need another buff if it can hunt rexes
coarse shell
because one of its threats is a fucking herbivore which isnt supposed to be the case
lone crypt
Dilo is probably one of the more balanced dinos in the game, with the exception of how sever it’s bleed is
vestal rune
it just needs like a 20 cm/s boost
it literally won't change anything
just makes it not fucked up by some fat arse hadrosaur
barren zephyr
nightvision is pretty much usless rn cause of how bright night is, also dilo is one of the loudest creatures in the game, and its bleed makes sense due to it haveing the weakest base damage out of all attacks
coarse shell
its bleed is only so op rn is because venom isnt in yet
vestal rune
are v3 nights lighter?
coarse shell
yep, v3 nights are lighter
vestal rune
oof
coarse shell
i dont know if its considered a bug or not
vestal rune
maybe to help with testing?
idk the nights should be pitch black to stop fucking gamma abusers
mental sleet
they already did that
vestal rune
not on v3
mental sleet
preety sure that's not how it works
barren zephyr
yes it is
v3 nights dont need nv
dilo is fine if it could outspeed or outrun para
dreamy wharf
v3 nights will be fixed later on.
barren zephyr
rn it cant
umbral prairie
It'd be cool if cloudy nights were as dark as nights on thenyaw, and nights without clouds are brighter because of the moon
vestal rune
it's fucking ridiculous that this is even the case lmao
dreamy wharf
I just feel like a dilo needs alittle bit of love in the turn radius department. A para right now simply runs you down and rides your ass.
Maia too.
Utah as well.
barren zephyr
utah can facetank dilo and live
vestal rune
what?
dreamy wharf
Yep.
barren zephyr
if the dilo is dumb and stands still
vestal rune
and kill hte dillo?
barren zephyr
utah wins
dreamy wharf
Can confirm ^
vestal rune
doesn't dilo like gurantee a death on a utah with like 2 bites
1 if it keeps running
clever leaf
dilo doesnt really need a speed buff imo
lone crypt
^^^
clever leaf
if anything i'd rather slow down para than speed up dilo
lone crypt
Yes
barren zephyr
well dilo also has
shit ambush
really fucking bad
1.1 multiplier
so 10% faster
and its with utah as one of the loudest creatures
when running
lone crypt
It’s not meant to attack, it’s a bite and chase animal
languid ember
dilo ambush mult is 1.2, not 1.1
lone crypt
If you’re struggling with dilo as much as you are, you aren’t using it right
languid ember
if it was 1.1 then it wouldn't be able to oustpeed utahs or ambushing allos, which it does
lone crypt
Use your turn to your advantage the
languid ember
in ambush
barren zephyr
unless utah isnt full grown
lone crypt
And don’t take on things faster than you are
barren zephyr
allo has better turn when sprinting
@jovial arch can confrim
same with @brisk mesa
lone crypt
Dilo doesn’t even take long to grow up either
barren zephyr
no it doesnt
languid ember
well no shit that allo turns better lol
lone crypt
Even if you die, you can be an adult within 50 minutes if you start as juvie
barren zephyr
no you cant
juvie to adult is 50 min exact
and full adult is 60
10 min longer than utah
lone crypt
Okay well that’s what I meant
Dilo can kill Utah and only has to get 2 bites in
Try traveling with groups then
barren zephyr
ye but utah can also kill dilo then
traveling in groups isnt what the problem is
its when things dilo cant defend itself from are faster than it
lone crypt
Dude, you don’t seem to realize you aren’t using dilo right if you are having this much trouble
barren zephyr
how would you play if a para saw you and charged after you and killed you
i wasnt hunting it
lone crypt
You just avoid large things and take on smaller ones, if you die, tough shit, it sucks but it happens, and you’ll be adult again in 50 minutes
lone crypt
You’re seriously not telling me this is all because you got killed by a para
lone crypt
It’s fine the way it is
clever leaf
if para gets slowed down then theres no need to speed dilo up as well
lone crypt
^
barren zephyr
well I agree with that
clever leaf
para really only needs to outrun apexes to be successful
lone crypt
But dilo doesn’t need the speed buff
clever leaf
rn it's alot faster than an allo
barren zephyr
considering you are saying it should stay the same
clever leaf
which it doesnt need to be