#general-feedback-discussion | The Isle Official Discord | Page 408

violet magnet Jan 5, 2019, 7:05 AM

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if there was a server-wide announcement that hypos were on and were hunting down shants, then the vast majority of the shant population would probably log off until the hypos were gone

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so hypos having to announce when they were online and which injection was being targeted...kinda defeats the purpose of hypos being a kind of injection population control

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also, AI spawns;
possibly there seem to be more AI spawns in large groups because ai are set to spawn at a certain rate around individual players, and when the individual players group up there are just more ai spawning in that area because there are more "spawn cues" from the increased number of players

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there'd probably have to be some kind of..."ai spawn override" that comes into play when you're in a group with or in the vicinity of another dino to prevent ai spawns from doubling up

normal fern Jan 5, 2019, 4:45 PM

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I think Cama would be the best choice for a playable sauropod, as long as it was slightly larger than it is now. And making sauropods bullet resistant would be better than making them flat out bullet immune. That could even be Camas ability if it makes it into survival

dusty cipher Jan 5, 2019, 4:46 PM

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Seems like a weird choice though, considering gigas would be able to rip of flesh and damage them yet a metal object flying at insane speeds would do nothing

lament thorn Jan 5, 2019, 4:50 PM

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not nothing just not insta kill

dusty cipher Jan 5, 2019, 4:50 PM

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Even then

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They have said they wanted realistic guns, so a shot to the neck would do some major damage

barren zephyr Jan 5, 2019, 5:03 PM

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if sauropods were to be playable, then A.Need a way to survive gunfire, and B.Make them enjoyable

dusty cipher Jan 5, 2019, 5:04 PM

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^

still temple Jan 5, 2019, 5:04 PM

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I find it hard to believe a sauropod can effectively survive a well placed shot to the head

dusty cipher Jan 5, 2019, 5:04 PM

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Same

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What I suggested was basically lowering the chance of that happening

still temple Jan 5, 2019, 5:05 PM

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surviving gunfire as a sauropod? pray that you dont encounter naked apes with boom sticks

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lower the chance? wouldn't that in turn affect human gameplay negatively?

dusty cipher Jan 5, 2019, 5:06 PM

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How so?

still temple Jan 5, 2019, 5:07 PM

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if the human player is able to aim properly, the game shouldnt punish the human just to make sauropod life easier

dusty cipher Jan 5, 2019, 5:08 PM

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I never said that it wouldn't allow humans to aim, I'm saying make it harder for humans to get good aim on a sauropod

still temple Jan 5, 2019, 5:08 PM

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no need for the game to do that

dusty cipher Jan 5, 2019, 5:08 PM

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Because you have redwood trees surrounding sauropods making it harder to find them and harder to kill from afar

still temple Jan 5, 2019, 5:08 PM

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sauropod players can make human players lives difficult by simply moving their asses out of range

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no need for external game interference

barren zephyr Jan 5, 2019, 5:09 PM

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i mean if humans can benefit from sauropods in some way that might make them playable

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like using theyre dung to mask theyre scent or something

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IDK

dusty cipher Jan 5, 2019, 5:10 PM

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Even with sauropods moving out the way, you could still get a decent shot on it

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Its not like sauropods are moving fast enough to avoid it

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Not to mention in most cases like this sauropods wouldn't even know humans were near

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You could be out in a field eating, and a human hidden in the trees nearby could aim and pull that trigger

still temple Jan 5, 2019, 5:12 PM

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that's the risk you pay for playing as a sauropod

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and that applies to any other dinosaur

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sauropod players can move near trees themselves

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why would the game do it for them

dusty cipher Jan 5, 2019, 5:13 PM

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It just directs towards doing it, and I'm pretty sure sauropod sized dinosaurs are gonna knock over trees

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Pretty sure Dondi has said that on past streams

still temple Jan 5, 2019, 5:14 PM

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why not let players do it themselves then

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being a big lumbering target naturally comes with its advantages and disadvantages

dusty cipher Jan 5, 2019, 5:15 PM

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True

barren zephyr Jan 5, 2019, 5:38 PM

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then again amunition will be limited and in order to take out a sauropod u would need to either get a headshot or unload on the neck, since i think the body might take the least damage

dusty cipher Jan 5, 2019, 5:46 PM

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Even with that there would be the chance

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Which would be pretty annoying if it did happen

civic sky Jan 5, 2019, 5:47 PM

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It's also worth noting that a smart human player aren't gonna waste ammo on a big dino let alone one that means no harm at all, it be best used for them raptors. Sure, people will do it anyway since that's just human nature but they'll learn this in time.

violet magnet Jan 5, 2019, 5:47 PM

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sauropods can't move fast enough to get out of range once a human spots them

dusty cipher Jan 5, 2019, 5:47 PM

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^

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Also knowing some of the people who play TI there would be some people shooting at sauropods

civic sky Jan 5, 2019, 5:48 PM

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i'm in a neutral position on playable sauropods

dusty cipher Jan 5, 2019, 5:49 PM

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Same

civic sky Jan 5, 2019, 5:49 PM

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if they get added, great, if not, not too bad either

dusty cipher Jan 5, 2019, 5:49 PM

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I could care less, but I know there is people that want them

barren zephyr Jan 5, 2019, 5:56 PM

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sauropods would only be effective against normal dinos minus giga

normal fern Jan 5, 2019, 7:02 PM

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The problem with sauropods however, is the amount of food they give. We can't just have sauropods being slaughtered by humans as the whole map will be full of corpses

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Aka, easy time as an apex carnivore

barren zephyr Jan 5, 2019, 7:12 PM

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maybe upon the death of many sauropods a hypo would spawn due to the large amount of food laying around

slender prairie Jan 5, 2019, 7:55 PM

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Hypo player or Npc?

compact coyote Jan 5, 2019, 7:56 PM

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id say dinos should only get a hunger/water increase when theres a sort of "token" system that makes apexes harder to get rather than being able to choose one instantly

sudden glacier Jan 5, 2019, 8:01 PM

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will you guys make another v3 server or increase the ammount of people there are in that one? its a fun map but so many people wanna play it and there is only 1 server.

blazing charm Jan 5, 2019, 8:58 PM

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hasty ore Jan 5, 2019, 8:58 PM

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Yea cus nobody ever says anything

jovial arch Jan 5, 2019, 8:59 PM

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uh

brisk mesa Jan 5, 2019, 8:59 PM

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^

hasty ore Jan 5, 2019, 8:59 PM

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I just want peeps to see it

jovial arch Jan 5, 2019, 8:59 PM

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h spino is going on all fours when walking

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so uh

brisk mesa Jan 5, 2019, 8:59 PM

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^^^^

jovial arch Jan 5, 2019, 8:59 PM

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your wish is already come true?

brisk mesa Jan 5, 2019, 8:59 PM

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Hyper Spino does this.

jovial skiff Jan 5, 2019, 8:59 PM

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uh

hasty ore Jan 5, 2019, 8:59 PM

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Only deva can play as h spino tho

lament thorn Jan 5, 2019, 8:59 PM

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for now

hasty ore Jan 5, 2019, 8:59 PM

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I mean normal spino

brisk mesa Jan 5, 2019, 8:59 PM

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#519931024956850187

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you're wrong Phoenix.

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Hyper Spino WILL be obtainable to everyone... eventually.

hasty ore Jan 5, 2019, 9:00 PM

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I just got the isle like 3 days ago

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That’s nice that hypos will be obtainable though

jovial arch Jan 5, 2019, 9:00 PM

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uh

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I'd strongly recommend waiting and watching the discord for a little

hasty ore Jan 5, 2019, 9:01 PM

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Well I’m just excited for the games future

jovial arch Jan 5, 2019, 9:01 PM

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just to try and get your bearings and figure out what's true and what isn't and what's coming and what isn't

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convos get pretty volatile here pretty quickly

jovial skiff Jan 5, 2019, 9:01 PM

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try to get in and stuff and learn

lament thorn Jan 5, 2019, 9:01 PM

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and dont repeat your suggestions

jovial skiff Jan 5, 2019, 9:01 PM

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like research

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before you make suggestions or statements

lament thorn Jan 5, 2019, 9:34 PM

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@vestal sequoia you might want to turn that into more of a suggestion and give reasons for it

brisk mesa Jan 5, 2019, 10:54 PM

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@barren zephyr What do you mean by that? Would it, when broadcasting, drop it's coordinates to other Parasaurs?

barren zephyr Jan 5, 2019, 10:59 PM

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It would kinda work like the compass, directing to individuals withing a certain range , could work as parasaur is intedent to be a herd animal allowing it to regroup if alone or just after evading predation, so yeah you got the idea, the drawback being you are ataracting unwanted attetion aswell

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unless its made into a infrasound wave like pulse, invisible to all creatures minus para

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ofc this would have a cooldown like scent

brisk mesa Jan 5, 2019, 11:16 PM

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An understanding as to the kind of resistance properties going on for a Diablo during it's Short Fuse;
-If a Giga got close to a pair of Diablos to where they could both take advantage of it, likely the Giga is dead and one of them survives the ordeal, if the fight ended while the resistance buffs were active.

pulsar lake Jan 5, 2019, 11:47 PM

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If Dibble have 1000cm/s, what for allo and dilo ? And how did a rex catch it? It's not really balanced and for me, dibble is absolutely not a shit. He is very strong. He can esay take down a allo 1v1 and her fast is good because he have a great stam and a good regen

normal fern Jan 6, 2019, 12:03 AM

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@pulsar lake TBH I think every single dino needs to be looked at, because right now Diablo is free food for giga. Against allo its perfectly balanced. Allo is made redundant by giga. But 1000cm/s over a very short distance, as watt implied would be perfectly fine. But otherwise every single dinosaur needs to be rebalanced.

leaden night Jan 6, 2019, 12:03 AM

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@pulsar lake Rex can't catch Dibble without being in head length anyway

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@brisk mesa Also I would love to see the little carry we discussed a bit earlier along with this

barren zephyr Jan 6, 2019, 12:44 AM

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a diablo should get rekt by a giga

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but a rex should also catch up to it

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if close enought

tawny veldt Jan 6, 2019, 1:53 AM

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Friend of mine just killed like ... 5 gigas as a diablo >.>

leaden night Jan 6, 2019, 2:17 AM

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But that's actually impossible unless the Gigas were braindead

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Adult Giga turns wayyy too well to be assriden must less with alt-turn

barren zephyr Jan 6, 2019, 2:59 AM

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@urban moon Ai Velos should kill young juvies and hatchlings

urban moon Jan 6, 2019, 3:00 AM

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@barren zephyr i know that but how can we play as juvi's and progress to sub when the velo can out power us that what im trying to say

barren zephyr Jan 6, 2019, 3:04 AM

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how about not being around it

urban moon Jan 6, 2019, 3:05 AM

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@barren zephyr bit hard when velo are fast and i tried so many times to avoid them they still catch up lol

barren zephyr Jan 6, 2019, 3:57 AM

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its meant to hunt juvies

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so you suggestions is 100% a no

unborn quail Jan 6, 2019, 4:04 AM

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The game is supposed to be difficult for a reason

last remnant Jan 6, 2019, 5:13 AM

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I would treat velos as any other player.

coarse shell Jan 6, 2019, 6:57 AM

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@urban moon mfw velos do no dmg to you either way

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unless you're a hatchling or a fresh spawn galli/utah lel

barren zephyr Jan 6, 2019, 7:47 AM

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juvies 1 shot velos thenkin

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ive never had a problem w a velo attacking me, gave me 1 bleeed but thats it

clever leaf Jan 6, 2019, 8:19 AM

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The only gameplay that compy could offer is scavenging

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But juvenile carnivores could do that

violet magnet Jan 6, 2019, 8:41 AM

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juvenile carnivores are too slow for that

main thistle Jan 6, 2019, 8:41 AM

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I'd have a lot of fun as compy tbh. I miss playing velo even

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Used to use herrerra as my go-to scavver just because its' fast and fun, but now prog is gone :c

arctic nexus Jan 6, 2019, 9:56 AM

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Compy = Velo

frail cargo Jan 6, 2019, 12:05 PM

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Compy =/= velo

pulsar lake Jan 6, 2019, 12:09 PM

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@barren zephyr i want to say Herrera. Herrera probably come to survival.

sterile scroll Jan 6, 2019, 12:26 PM

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You currently can't be any hypos

random knoll Jan 6, 2019, 12:28 PM

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No

sterile scroll Jan 6, 2019, 12:28 PM

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nah, only devs can be them rn, we can obtain them somehow in the future

random knoll Jan 6, 2019, 12:28 PM

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Only devs

red rock Jan 6, 2019, 12:29 PM

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yep and they also kill giant teamer packs xD

sterile scroll Jan 6, 2019, 12:29 PM

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we don't know yet

random knoll Jan 6, 2019, 12:30 PM

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Chance

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Fuck knows really

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Ya going to have to wait a while

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Also #401464048610312195 would be the place for this

limpid dove Jan 6, 2019, 1:24 PM

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@barren zephyr no, should not be hard to get away. para takes u to 3rd screen with headbutt and you heal it in 5 minutes. you can easily get away by running around aimlessly through a forest and making it difficult to catch up to you. you should also be ambushing your prey before going in for an attack to have the extra speed boost to get away and out of their nv range

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dilo speed is already almost Utah fast, and he is a heavy bleeder. dilo is hit and run, not hit and assride lol

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if you're hunting an adult para during the day as a dilo, baby what is u doin

barren zephyr Jan 6, 2019, 3:03 PM

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@barren zephyr Spino's stats aren't aligned with survival mode, the current stats are for progression and the injections (in the official servers) are used to gauge how well it survives in its current state and see what statswill be changed for its proper introduction to Survival mode.

leaden night Jan 6, 2019, 3:53 PM

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Triceratops also didn't get buffed

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It's simply that rex lost the 10% damage thing which made it 4-6 shot it before

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@barren zephyr ~~Quad Spino isn't accurate because theropods wrists are not capable of quadrapedal movement~~ Hyper Spino already knuckle walks whilst crouching so I'd guess the new Spino will probably do the same

brisk mesa Jan 6, 2019, 3:55 PM

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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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Trike got no stat changes.

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Trex just got hit with the ultra nerf.

unborn quail Jan 6, 2019, 3:56 PM

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People still wanting Quad spino

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but why?

last remnant Jan 6, 2019, 3:58 PM

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Because it's accurate

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I guess...

normal fern Jan 6, 2019, 3:58 PM

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No

leaden night Jan 6, 2019, 3:58 PM

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It's not though

unborn quail Jan 6, 2019, 3:58 PM

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It isnt

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Theropod wrists couldn't handle the stress of something like that

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They arent designed to

leaden night Jan 6, 2019, 3:58 PM

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^

unborn quail Jan 6, 2019, 3:59 PM

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The moment something like a spinosaurus does it goes snap

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Hypers have the excuse of being genetically mutated monsters

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Reality hardly applies to them for the most part

brisk mesa Jan 6, 2019, 3:59 PM

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Physics cry when they see the hypers.

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Giga, Spino and Rex specifically.

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Yes, 35 tonne bipeds.

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What could possibly go wrong.

leaden night Jan 6, 2019, 4:00 PM

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~~At least hyper Spino stumbles around~~

unborn quail Jan 6, 2019, 4:00 PM

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Then it should look at Skyrim Horses

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uwuPip

split notch Jan 6, 2019, 4:01 PM

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Muh square cube law

last remnant Jan 6, 2019, 4:01 PM

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I mean, I would talk to Ibrahim

barren zephyr Jan 6, 2019, 4:01 PM

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@leaden night i hope new spino will do the same i love Quadrapedal spino

unborn quail Jan 6, 2019, 4:01 PM

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It isn't accurate

last remnant Jan 6, 2019, 4:01 PM

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Send me a link

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https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/phenomena/2014/09/11/the-new-spinosaurus/

Science & Innovation

The New Spinosaurus

Spinosaurus has changed dramatically since I was a kid. The model I used to terrorize my other toys with looked like an overgrown Allosaurus with a giant sail on its back. As paleontologists rearranged the dinosaur family tree and found new species, however, they realized tha...

leaden night Jan 6, 2019, 4:02 PM

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Spino is just a bipedal midget

last remnant Jan 6, 2019, 4:02 PM

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K

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Send me a link

leaden night Jan 6, 2019, 4:02 PM

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Go to #paleotalk first

last remnant Jan 6, 2019, 4:02 PM

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No...

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Send me proof. That's just talk lol

leaden night Jan 6, 2019, 4:03 PM

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dondiSquint

unborn quail Jan 6, 2019, 4:03 PM

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It will go in #paleoas they said

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As its the proper place for this

last remnant Jan 6, 2019, 4:03 PM

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dondiSquint

unborn quail Jan 6, 2019, 4:03 PM

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Your asking for proof, they're giving you the place to go for it

last remnant Jan 6, 2019, 4:03 PM

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I sent you proof

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😄

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You're saying something inaccurate. You should back it up.

leaden night Jan 6, 2019, 4:05 PM

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Kai the mods will yell at us though

last remnant Jan 6, 2019, 4:05 PM

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Then post it in paleotalk

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Ok...tbh it doesn't really matter to me either lol

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I like either version XD

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I thought you might have had some article that said differently

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Sorry...

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I do like bipedal spino a lot more actually.

urban moon Jan 6, 2019, 4:57 PM

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@coarse shell i can understand where your coming but i was a juvi rex at one point it took a velo 3 bites for me to get killed same with a juvi allo i still got killed by a velo, im still working out the reason why velo are added all i know is to balance the ai but at the moment i see more velo then any other ai

brisk mesa Jan 6, 2019, 4:57 PM

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Velo exists to be a threat to juvis.

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You oneshot them.

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If you see a Velo, kill it.

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They are there to make your experience harder

barren zephyr Jan 6, 2019, 4:59 PM

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^

brisk mesa Jan 6, 2019, 5:02 PM

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Before, people took issue that Velo was too weak to kill juvis.

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So many people clamored for a buff because they were a joke, not an actual threat.

urban moon Jan 6, 2019, 5:04 PM

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@brisk mesa i tried killing them but but the velo can outrun us thats my point im trying to get at i aint truly bothered about getting killed by them its the point i see one chase it then i lose stam cuz they are fast then another velo turns up kills due to no stam to run of, i just think they should be nerfed so we can still hunt them but still get hurt but not enough to actually to kill us, i can see where everyone is saying and i do i just think they to powerful to be a ai lol but thats just me

brisk mesa Jan 6, 2019, 5:05 PM

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Velo are basically worth no food.

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They aren't intended as prey.

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They can run away from most juvis.

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Velo are your predators, as juvis.

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However, they aren't good predators, or OP against you.

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If a Velo charges you, turn towards it.

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And eat it.

barren zephyr Jan 6, 2019, 5:05 PM

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^

urban moon Jan 6, 2019, 5:05 PM

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but most juvi's can't run away from a velo

brisk mesa Jan 6, 2019, 5:06 PM

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Every juvi oneshots.

barren zephyr Jan 6, 2019, 5:06 PM

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^

brisk mesa Jan 6, 2019, 5:06 PM

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Doesn't matter if you can't run.

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You stand your ground.

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You kill them.

urban moon Jan 6, 2019, 5:06 PM

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trust me i bit 1 velo and it still killed me

brisk mesa Jan 6, 2019, 5:06 PM

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Were you a hatchling?

barren zephyr Jan 6, 2019, 5:06 PM

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@brisk mesa all im here for is this ^

brisk mesa Jan 6, 2019, 5:06 PM

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An injected creature?

urban moon Jan 6, 2019, 5:07 PM

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juvie

barren zephyr Jan 6, 2019, 5:07 PM

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juvie one of 10 dinos

brisk mesa Jan 6, 2019, 5:07 PM

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Juvi Dryo and Carno might not oneshot.

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At low growths.

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But Utah, Allo, Rex, Giga, etc.

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Dilo.

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Cera.

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All of them oneshot.

urban moon Jan 6, 2019, 5:08 PM

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i tried using juvi utah and rex and still 1 bite on them they still end up killing me lol

brisk mesa Jan 6, 2019, 5:08 PM

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Well, you missed.

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Because I can assure you at even brand spankin' new you oneshot them.

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Or server lag could have been a factor.

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Your bite might have registered after it had killed you.

urban moon Jan 6, 2019, 5:09 PM

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i did bite them cuz i heard the hurt sound and yea probs i may try again to see what happens lol

barren zephyr Jan 6, 2019, 5:15 PM

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I thought they took them out. I haven't seen any in a while. Are they not on v3?

brisk mesa Jan 6, 2019, 5:17 PM

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Nope, not on V3.

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Yet-to-be-added

rapid star Jan 6, 2019, 6:17 PM

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@urban moon , I don't see what your issue is, I've been playing for 3 days, I've played allo, utah, and cera, and (even though the velo can kill the juvis) I have yet to think they are even close to being a serious issue. You have 2 choices really, stand your ground and kill them (easy) or avoid them entirely (even easier)

viral creek Jan 6, 2019, 6:20 PM

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Buffed or nerfed, velos are just as delicious either way

vagrant crest Jan 6, 2019, 10:23 PM

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Juvie utah take 4-5 bites to kill a velo, but they still aren't a big deal

hallow vigil Jan 6, 2019, 10:29 PM

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do not kill velos 😢

warped harbor Jan 6, 2019, 10:55 PM

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That megaraptor document shows a lot of potential...

barren zephyr Jan 6, 2019, 11:27 PM

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@limpid dove with night changes and it the para is using reshade, it can easily see you during the night as a dilo and just run you down, most hit and run tactics generally rely on you being faster than the para, dilo also got an indirect nerf recently because it is easier to see at night now

clever leaf Jan 6, 2019, 11:44 PM

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That Megaraptor document 👌

barren zephyr Jan 6, 2019, 11:47 PM

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@blazing charm @barren zephyr great work boys

clever leaf Jan 6, 2019, 11:49 PM

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GWqlabsOilUp

barren zephyr Jan 7, 2019, 12:01 AM

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Thanks man @barren zephyr

thorny lynx Jan 7, 2019, 12:43 AM

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@brisk mesa You do understand different dinosaurs have different stomach sizes.... what if their stomach contents do not equate to 25% of a dino's health?

brisk mesa Jan 7, 2019, 12:44 AM

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Yes I'm well aware stomach sizes vary substantially.

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I know an easy example of your question; Trex's stomach is under 2000 iirc.

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So therefore, not 1/4 of 6000 HP.

thorny lynx Jan 7, 2019, 12:44 AM

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It's actually 2400.

brisk mesa Jan 7, 2019, 12:44 AM

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Oh really

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Ok

thorny lynx Jan 7, 2019, 12:44 AM

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And it has 6.5k hp

brisk mesa Jan 7, 2019, 12:44 AM

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I never checked Survival

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Yeah IK his HP is 6500

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just

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got lazy typing lol.

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Point is, your HP passively regens when above 75%.

thorny lynx Jan 7, 2019, 12:45 AM

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And what if you are full? Are you fucked?

brisk mesa Jan 7, 2019, 12:45 AM

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Your HP passively regens if above 75% hunger.

thorny lynx Jan 7, 2019, 12:45 AM

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Ohhh.

brisk mesa Jan 7, 2019, 12:45 AM

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It's meant to reward those who hunt when they need to.

thorny lynx Jan 7, 2019, 12:46 AM

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I didn't quite understand.

brisk mesa Jan 7, 2019, 12:46 AM

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If your Trex is at 10% food, so only has 240 left?

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And he kills a braindead Allo...

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He can just gobble up food.

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A more plausible scenario is a Cerato fighting multiple Allos.

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It takes heavy injuries in the process but say, kills 3.

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Normally he's fucked.

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Totally.

thorny lynx Jan 7, 2019, 12:47 AM

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This might encourage corpse guarding because herbivores would now have a very good reason to prevent a carnivore from eating.

brisk mesa Jan 7, 2019, 12:47 AM

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He's gonna die from starving after the hunt, while healing.

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Herbivores would be risking injury when they face harsher penalties

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If you are a jackass and corpse guard, and end up getting harmed as a result?

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You are now a liability to the herd.

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Consider if say, a Shant goes out of its way to flatten 2 Gigas yeah?

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He is now severely wounded.

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And has a truckload of food he needs to restore to get back anywhere near full HP.

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Would the other Shants want to have him around?

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No.

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He'll eat them out of house and home.

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Especially given what I mentioned about Hadrosaurs having overall smaller stomachs.

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This would mean a Shant will put itself into a vulnerable state after a fight.

thorny lynx Jan 7, 2019, 12:50 AM

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Some seconds of healing bleed can be absolutely critical to survival. If hungry, slow-eating dinosaurs cannot passively heal bleed damage while eating, are they going go bleed out?

brisk mesa Jan 7, 2019, 12:50 AM

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Can he fight back, well yes, of course, if it comes down to it.

thorny lynx Jan 7, 2019, 12:51 AM

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Dilo has a food capacity of what... less than 200? Maybe 150 and they eat about 15 food per bite. Their health is 1500 or something.

brisk mesa Jan 7, 2019, 12:51 AM

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1050 HP, but yeah.

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Bleed Heal / Bleed Rez when resting could be buffed appropriately to compensate.

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Because it only stops HP regen.

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When below 75% hunger.

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A hungry Dilo would be at higher risk of bleeding to death than a healthier one.

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However, stats probably would need to be adjusted with any change.

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I appreciate all the questions you are raising, it's very helplful

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I hadn;t initially considered the corpse guarding aspect.

candid fiber Jan 7, 2019, 1:18 AM

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The passive regeneration should be adjusted in a way that doesn't punish full stomach players though. Maybe it should be a direct conversion, draining a certain amount of hunger for a certain amount of healing.

barren zephyr Jan 7, 2019, 1:20 AM

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dilo seems to almost never starve tho

candid fiber Jan 7, 2019, 1:20 AM

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And triggered by either eating something - converting parts of your food to health and parts to stomach contents. So if you are full you heal for 100%.

barren zephyr Jan 7, 2019, 1:20 AM

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low hunger decay

brisk mesa Jan 7, 2019, 1:40 AM

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Hm, that's very interesting Minion

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Passive regen would cause you to get hungrier faster, restoring HP and allowing you to consume to gain even more HP, so staying above 75% would be very, very beneficial because it would allow you to keep eating faster.

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@candid fiber not bad at all

blazing charm Jan 7, 2019, 3:17 AM

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@barren zephyr Thanks dud

warm ridge Jan 7, 2019, 3:57 AM

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That megaraptor suggestion is pretty nice

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I like

drifting steppe Jan 7, 2019, 12:51 PM

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How about a winter area where certain Dino’s are slower

blazing charm Jan 7, 2019, 12:58 PM

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@grave dagger Wrong channel friend. You wanna bring that up in #401465476661641217

grave dagger Jan 7, 2019, 12:58 PM

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oof

brisk mesa Jan 7, 2019, 4:50 PM

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@quasi stream that argument doesn't exactly apply to any predator. No. Feign-limping is something that animals only do to lure predators away from their young. Most dinosaurs have horrible turning when broken... Trike is the exception.

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Feign limp isn't a big problem, by any stretch of the imagination

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Why?

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Because it = Walk turn.

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In both speed and agility.

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So, if you removed feign limp, all you do is make them press Z to go from Trot to walk.

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If you got baited in by a Triceratops, that's a mistake on your end.

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Every predator is faster & has more stamina, and basic knowledge of fighting a Trike would let you know they are very agile when broken.

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If anything, the argument of an experienced animal learning to make it's attackers overconfident only makes sense on a herbivore.

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Why would a predator make itself seem obvious? The prey items would just leave.

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A herbivore, by contrast, might learn that a predator gets careless if prey seems debilitated, and could retaliate when attacked.

quasi stream Jan 7, 2019, 5:00 PM

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True true

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Understandable

jovial arch Jan 7, 2019, 6:53 PM

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Tbh the whole feign limping thing is kinda dumb

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I’ve never seen it used effectively

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But like

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Why not have it

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I don’t really think it has a point one way or another

oak oak Jan 7, 2019, 6:59 PM

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well, i was ganna use it to lure a pred to get me (i was a sub rex) and my friend (and adult rex) would ambush it

jovial arch Jan 7, 2019, 6:59 PM

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🤷

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I mean

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I’ve never seen anyone use it effectively

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But it’s a nice cosmetic thing

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So

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Why not have it?

oak oak Jan 7, 2019, 7:00 PM

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we never got to do it cuz we stumbled into a pair of gigas

jovial arch Jan 7, 2019, 7:00 PM

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Rip

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Gigas have too much stam now

oak oak Jan 7, 2019, 7:00 PM

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i ran the hell out of there

jovial arch Jan 7, 2019, 7:01 PM

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But iirc near max sub Rex is almost as fast as Allo

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So you should be able to get out of there

oak oak Jan 7, 2019, 7:01 PM

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oh i didnt know that

jovial arch Jan 7, 2019, 7:01 PM

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Yeah I think it caps at like 20 mph?

oak oak Jan 7, 2019, 7:01 PM

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welp it was all for nothing cuz when i logged off i had low health from hunger

jovial arch Jan 7, 2019, 7:01 PM

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Oh

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Rip

oak oak Jan 7, 2019, 7:01 PM

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my friend died to a spino

jovial arch Jan 7, 2019, 7:01 PM

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Rex is pretty bad rn

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No offense

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It just has difficulty hunting anything really

oak oak Jan 7, 2019, 7:02 PM

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i remember when i was a juvi spino i thought i was strong enough to ward off this allo pair XD

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they killed me

jovial arch Jan 7, 2019, 7:02 PM

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Let’s move to #401464048610312195

oak oak Jan 7, 2019, 7:03 PM

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oh ok

violet magnet Jan 7, 2019, 8:49 PM

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if i saw a sub rex limping out in the open then i would be EXTREMELY suspicious and wouldn't go anywhere near it

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most people don't limp far from where they broke their leg before sitting; limping out in the open where you're easily spotted is a fuckin' trap

leaden night Jan 7, 2019, 9:07 PM

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^

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When I break my leg, I instantly find a bush to sit in and watch YT

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 1:44 AM

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I don't think halving food drain during rest is a good idea. It only further encourages players to stay still. Players should be incentivized to move.

leaden night Jan 8, 2019, 1:45 AM

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Make walking give more stam so you would have an actual reason to use it

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It keeps movement while also making walking not useless outside of fights

north dew Jan 8, 2019, 2:58 AM

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JESUS PARA

violet magnet Jan 8, 2019, 3:45 AM

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@simple sand dinosaurs were not cold-blooded. I think the term is mesotherm, which is somewhere in between warm- and cold-blooded

simple sand Jan 8, 2019, 3:45 AM

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Ah, neato.

violet magnet Jan 8, 2019, 3:46 AM

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but anything out in the rain for a long time would start losing body heat and potentially develop hypothermia, so this could work 👍

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there's a map mod out right now that has hypothermia as a mechanic; The Frozen North in the Steam Workshop

still temple Jan 8, 2019, 3:59 AM

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didnt dondi say waaaay back that he didn't want temp regulation and maintenance to be a thing>

thorny lynx Jan 8, 2019, 5:20 AM

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I noticed people aren't adding as many reactions to people's suggestions... and the suggestions are longer and longer.

fast cipher Jan 8, 2019, 1:19 PM

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@barren zephyr right now there is almost no incentive to stay still for carnivores, as their food runs out so quick, it’s nice to have some rest bite in the game, without having to log off for an hour and wait for things to go into the location you were At

normal fern Jan 8, 2019, 1:44 PM

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Dilo doesnt need to be faster, but I agree that the new nighttime pretty much screws over dilo

coarse shell Jan 8, 2019, 1:52 PM

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its not new nighttime its bugged lel

brisk mesa Jan 8, 2019, 1:56 PM

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@bitter wyvern I've been consistently playing Carno and I have to say, no, at no point have I struggled with food. When I had just reached adult and logged off, I struggled for a while until I got an Oro, but by then I was nearly fully grown. Since then I could travel around as a scavenger, hunt the many sub / juvi gigas that populate the world, kill any juvis I stumble across, over-zealous Maias that think they are hot shit when the herd if too far to defend them, Dryos who think they've got jukes, Utahs who do not know their place... and the abundant Oros I've encountered. Just make your way inland, towards the large river system or herb rock, and food is trivial to meet as a Carno.

Herb Rock, and the fields around it, is often littered with massive gore piles. I saw no less than 6 adult Gigas all in the general vicinity. I've seen a pair of Trexes hunting around the large river system, or in more secluded areas of the map protecting their brood. Gigas can be found anywhere inland, towards the outskirts as subadults.

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I've engaged with massive herds as a Carno pack, and frankly it's freaking awesome. People are going herbivore not because they are OP, but because they are not useless like they were on Thenyaw. Injections of Stegos and Ankies make them a lot more appealing, as does the abundant food. Trexes being nerfed means Trikes are not worthless, either.

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I would say a more viable solution would be simple. Expand 'denying food' from just being about water spawns to including corpse guarding.

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Problem solved.

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Also, you are unaware that despite there being no official limit, the moderators are very quick to go onto a Hyper Spino / Giga / Carno / Rex / Magna Rex and obliterate an entire herd that is acting like dirt.

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Those large herds only last if they are not dicks.

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Those that are, get smitten

last remnant Jan 8, 2019, 2:04 PM

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I would agree that a Carno is a force to be wrecking with if you play it right.

bitter wyvern Jan 8, 2019, 2:05 PM

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Before I go to sleep, or more or less pass out, I’m going to respond to this. A singular Carno may not be so hard to raise, sure, I’m giving instances. Everyone has different instances. This so called six pack of gigas is something I’ve yet to see and I’ve been playing frequently. The max amount of apex carnivores I’ve seen are two gigas, and three spinos. Outside of that I’ve only witnessed one adult rex which I hunted and killed as a giga with my partner because there wasn’t another source of food. Why is that? All herbivores herded together to a point where we couldn’t hunt and survive. So maybe as a Carno it’s an easier life, but that’s because Carno hunger isn’t as bad.

I’ve yet to go to Herb Rock and witness the gores or bodies. And I’m there as an herb myself, most days. I’m not saying that the herds are players who go it because they’re OP, I’m saying that there’s too many of them, just like apex packs, and there should be a limit.

Also, Mods can’t be a hypo dino. Only Devs, and even then they’re not on 24/7. Not all herds are killed by hypos either.

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It, in my opinion, would be better to do a slight herd limit.

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But only for APEX herbivores.

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Anyways, I’m heading to bed now. If there’s any responses to this I’ll message back when I wake up.

brisk mesa Jan 8, 2019, 2:21 PM

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Aight, that's a fair, but yesterday I spent pretty much the whole day playing, almost a full 12hrs. And I saw a lot of death.

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Here's the way to beat the herds.

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 2:22 PM

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thats my problem with the herds

brisk mesa Jan 8, 2019, 2:22 PM

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You lure out the fast dinosaurs.

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They are overconfident.

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You drop them.

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You also pick the fight wisely.

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 2:22 PM

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my problem with herds r that they can mix herd so you can get all the prey accessible to smaller dinos to hide behind the big massive trikes and shit

brisk mesa Jan 8, 2019, 2:23 PM

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Meiss, 'smaller herbs' aren't really prey to anything as adults lol.

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They are simply too fast.

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Utahs cannot reliably hunt Maias, Paras, and gallis arent a good meal.

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A Giga is going to have difficulty hunting a Para with all the open space.

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 2:24 PM

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a good utah pack can hunt a para

brisk mesa Jan 8, 2019, 2:24 PM

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True, a pack can.

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 2:24 PM

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But if they are surrounded by a wall of horns good luck

brisk mesa Jan 8, 2019, 2:24 PM

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Actually its not hard, atleast as Carnos.

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I hunted a herd that had 2 adult trikes, 2 subs, 2 young stegos, 3 or 4 maias.

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 2:25 PM

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but my real problem is dilo being 2 small

brisk mesa Jan 8, 2019, 2:25 PM

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Everything died to us except the adult Trikes.

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 2:25 PM

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er

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slow not small

brisk mesa Jan 8, 2019, 2:25 PM

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IK you complain constantly about Dilo's speed.

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But you are forest dinosaur.

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Stay there

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 2:25 PM

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I AM IN THE FOREST

brisk mesa Jan 8, 2019, 2:25 PM

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and Paras won't be an issue.

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 2:25 PM

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ITS NOT GUNNU STOP A PARA FROM CHASING ME DOWN

brisk mesa Jan 8, 2019, 2:26 PM

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Para is barely faster and has a slow trot speed.

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Ok?

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 2:26 PM

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barley faster is still faster

brisk mesa Jan 8, 2019, 2:26 PM

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You as a Dilo move at 1080 cm/s

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It moves 1100 cm/s

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20 difference.

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 2:26 PM

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Also its easier to see at night now

brisk mesa Jan 8, 2019, 2:26 PM

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You can ambush to escape, easily.

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People don't upvote your grievance because there is barely a speed difference in outright sprint, and if you simply crouch you ambush and leave it in the dust.

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Dilo has amazing stamina regen, trot speed.

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Para is big and can get stuck on trees often.

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Because night isn't dark atm, don't go into the open if you hear a herd.

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 2:33 PM

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right now carni gameplay seems to be just fighting other carnis

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suicide runs

brisk mesa Jan 8, 2019, 2:33 PM

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Same as on Thenyaw.

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Except because there werent any herbs.

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Lol.

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 2:34 PM

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yea but on thenyaw AI was rampant

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now its just

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1-2 big herds

brisk mesa Jan 8, 2019, 2:34 PM

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harder, as it should be?

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 2:34 PM

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and all the carnis killing eachother

brisk mesa Jan 8, 2019, 2:34 PM

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I've hunted plenty of herbivores.

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 2:34 PM

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I have o nly seen them in massive herds

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I havent seen a lone herbie yet on v3

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hell i havent seen a group of 3

brisk mesa Jan 8, 2019, 2:35 PM

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Damn, that is simply bizarre.

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I've seen so many small herds.

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 2:35 PM

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i can tell you what i have come across

brisk mesa Jan 8, 2019, 2:35 PM

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All trying to join the big ones, dying beforehand

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 2:35 PM

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3 juvie gigas

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7 utahs

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like 4 allos

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and one other dilo

brisk mesa Jan 8, 2019, 2:35 PM

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lol

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 2:36 PM

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no rexes either prolly due to nerf

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and oh yea

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2 tacos and an oro

brisk mesa Jan 8, 2019, 2:36 PM

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Wth

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I hate to be like that but

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Goddamn

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do you just AFK?

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 2:36 PM

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No

brisk mesa Jan 8, 2019, 2:36 PM

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In narnia?

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 2:36 PM

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i trot around the map

brisk mesa Jan 8, 2019, 2:36 PM

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I've seen more than that

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in 10 minutes.

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 2:36 PM

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oh yea

brisk mesa Jan 8, 2019, 2:36 PM

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Not even joking.

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 2:36 PM

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a massive galli herd and a massive dibble herd

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i saw those

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one was 2 fast

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the other was 2 hard hitting

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i cant even get the jump on em

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cause they can just see me

brisk mesa Jan 8, 2019, 2:37 PM

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1 adult, 1 sub giga, 2 allos, 1 adult dilo, 1 dying adult cera.

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10min of logging in.

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Oh and of course, I heard a subrex

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 2:37 PM

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all adult ceratos are dying

brisk mesa Jan 8, 2019, 2:37 PM

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saw 2 juvis off in distance.

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And my Carno pack, so 3 logged on w/ me.

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 2:38 PM

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whats a ceratos hunger decay

brisk mesa Jan 8, 2019, 2:38 PM

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Hell.

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 2:38 PM

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like what

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20 min

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30 min

brisk mesa Jan 8, 2019, 2:38 PM

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33min and you start starving.

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 2:38 PM

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sigh

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well atleast they have the best juvies

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fresh spawn was like

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1600 mass

brisk mesa Jan 8, 2019, 2:39 PM

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Anyways, no, my experience of V3 on Dev4 has been very different.

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I have not experienced this 'scarceness'

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I have seen so many Oros and Tacos

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Juvis

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Adults.

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Of everything you can think of.

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 2:40 PM

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It feels barren to me

brisk mesa Jan 8, 2019, 2:40 PM

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Only thing I havent seen, personally

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Is a Juvi Cera or Dilo.

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I have seen every other dino, in every life stage.

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 2:40 PM

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well ceratos and dilos are rare to begin with

brisk mesa Jan 8, 2019, 2:40 PM

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Wait nm

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have seen 3 juvi ceras

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whoops.

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 2:40 PM

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lul

brisk mesa Jan 8, 2019, 2:40 PM

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One made it to adult.

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 2:40 PM

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ceras always apear after a wipe tho

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cause they are the juvie kings

brisk mesa Jan 8, 2019, 2:41 PM

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No wipe happened tho

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I was just, an Allo and went to the big lakes

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and got ambushed by 2 big juvs, escaped easily

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they stole my Oro

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and another Juv Cera was going to join them

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I Merc'd it.

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Came back latter, one was adult, and died.

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 2:47 PM

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yea

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all i know is

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I havent run into much

fast cipher Jan 8, 2019, 3:27 PM

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I’ve seen a dev say that they’re trying to improve night time but it’s hard to balance it, and that I agree with however dilo doesn’t need a speed buff, just don’t try and harass para’s

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 3:38 PM

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I don't think dilos need a speed boost either. But from what I have seen it is usually paras harassing dilos.

feral verge Jan 8, 2019, 3:46 PM

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paras harassing allos...

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 3:46 PM

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i dont want a massive speed buff i just want it to outspeed para

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Or play dilo how ur supposed to

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And hide in the day

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And pop out at night

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And dont harass anything that can near 1 shot u

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im not harrasing it

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it is harrasin me

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also

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most people dont even use nv at night anymore cause its way easier to see

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at night that is

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i dont chase stuff during day

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i dont hunt during day

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its when im out at night

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Its more for when ur in a forest now

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I doubt that was the intention but idk

last remnant Jan 8, 2019, 3:52 PM

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I mean, dilos should be hit and run predators.

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They should be faster than most larger herbivores, but slower than gallis and Dryos as speed is their only saving grace.

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 3:56 PM

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ye but the big herbie chase me down ree

static compass Jan 8, 2019, 4:53 PM

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yeah ive never had a problem with any carniv

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its always my mistake that i run into other carnivs, cos i went to a pond or something

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that is easily sniFFABLe

static compass Jan 8, 2019, 5:32 PM

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btw @barren zephyr night is not lighter, on thenyaw it is impossible to see throughout the night and dilos thrive best, in V3 however, there are different types of brightness, when the clouds cover the sky it gets harder to see, and when the sky is cloudless, it is easier to see, dilos still have advantage but like 20% less.

coarse shell Jan 8, 2019, 5:35 PM

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dilos have lost their advantage with night being shite on v3 because nv is barely needed

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not a 20% loss, more like 50-60%

static compass Jan 8, 2019, 5:39 PM

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i use nv a lot, so im not sure how you guys are seeing, but i think night on V3 is fine

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in wide open spaces, ofc you'd see with the moon shining.

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but in forests its always dark no matter what.

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its really surprising how bright it can get, almost like evening.

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in real life ^

jovial arch Jan 8, 2019, 5:54 PM

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Yeah, I’d still give Dilo like an extra 1 mph

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Iirc its ambush mult is 1.1?

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If it’s 1.2 it could do with a slight reduction after buffing speed

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But otherwise

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 6:29 PM

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yea i dont wanta massive increase

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just enough to make it faster than para

viral creek Jan 8, 2019, 6:32 PM

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Or fast as para

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 6:32 PM

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@finite perch melanism isnt always an advantage but I see your point

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During day a jetblack dino would be quite easy to spot

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and if their ever was a snow map

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Then it would be a straight disadvantage comparied to albinism

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I do see your point tho

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at the current moment however their isnt much reason to nest

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people do it to kill time

finite perch Jan 8, 2019, 6:34 PM

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i think its interesting! even places like deserts and beaches could be utilized by albinos, while melans would utilize shaded areas like caves, forests, ect

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might force someone out of their comfort zone and challenge their playstyle, reward nesting without messing with numerical balance

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 6:35 PM

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deserts not so much due to albinism also decreasing resistnces to a sun

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but i see the point

finite perch Jan 8, 2019, 6:35 PM

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true, but dermatic cancer isnt a system.... yet!

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 6:35 PM

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its just

viral creek Jan 8, 2019, 6:35 PM

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The main incentive to nest, is to have a parent, which is a solid advantage when growing up. Idk how much interest those skins would be

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 6:37 PM

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i mean generally you can find a group to help you but yea

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I guess

finite perch Jan 8, 2019, 6:37 PM

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it wouldnt be the only incentive to nest of course, but i feel it would add to it. some folks find being nested in as too safe or boring

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 6:37 PM

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tho i would rather have less time to grow than a parent

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but i play smaller dinos so

mighty girder Jan 8, 2019, 6:39 PM

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@barren zephyr No thanks, I quite enjoy how badass the rex sounds atm.

pulsar lake Jan 8, 2019, 6:41 PM

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OH YES SOPRANOYARO !!!

finite perch Jan 8, 2019, 6:41 PM

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i play as a mix of dinos, im mostly interested in having patterns being 2nd gen though. albino/melan is super secondary

regal sapphire Jan 8, 2019, 6:41 PM

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@barren zephyr real life as in the animal nobody here has ever seen or heard?

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 6:42 PM

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@regal sapphire it's called science and research.

regal sapphire Jan 8, 2019, 6:42 PM

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Ok

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Show me a living T. rex

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And tell me how it sounds

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 6:42 PM

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they can't examine a skull?......🤦🏼

regal sapphire Jan 8, 2019, 6:43 PM

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Would you be able to guess how an elephant sounds with just its skull and having no knowledge of what an elephant is?

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 6:43 PM

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the isle is based in realism but is not meant to be 100% realistic

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so im fine with the current roars

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i doubt a t-rex had a meaty trumpet hanging out of it's face..

regal sapphire Jan 8, 2019, 6:45 PM

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What proof is there that it doesn’t though

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 6:45 PM

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considering the isle has a lot of stuff drawn and inspired from jp

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do you believe in the big bang? just curious

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its supposed to roar in the game

verbal acorn Jan 8, 2019, 6:45 PM

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They probably honked like geese....

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 6:46 PM

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if you want 100% realism go to saurian

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a game no one plays?

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i'll pass...

regal sapphire Jan 8, 2019, 6:46 PM

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Snorian Rex roars though can’t be realistic @barren zephyr

verbal acorn Jan 8, 2019, 6:46 PM

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Saurian looks like crap...visually and the play experience

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 6:47 PM

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saurian doesnt roar tho

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Saurian isnt that bad graphically

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better than some games

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dino games

verbal acorn Jan 8, 2019, 6:47 PM

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Images I saw looked flat and grainy

regal sapphire Jan 8, 2019, 6:48 PM

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Didn’t know this channel was about Saurian

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 6:48 PM

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its not its about how the rex sounds fine atm

next nexus Jan 8, 2019, 6:48 PM

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yeah saurian isnt the best looker especially for the performance you get with the game

verbal acorn Jan 8, 2019, 6:48 PM

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Saurian looks like a mod from a Fantasy MMORPG...looks to play like one too

next nexus Jan 8, 2019, 6:49 PM

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game looks like a ps2 game but runs like dogshit

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 6:49 PM

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the game looks better than ps

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ps2

verbal acorn Jan 8, 2019, 6:49 PM

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I keep expecting a wizard to come out from behind a tree...

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 6:49 PM

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im not saying its pretty but its really not that bad

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unless your playing on a toaster then possibly

next nexus Jan 8, 2019, 6:51 PM

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point being, nah they are never going to waste all that time and effort creating and animating the rex roars to then just scrap it because rumbles

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 6:51 PM

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yea

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it's a game in progress, still developing, who said this is the final rex model? in the future it can still change..

mighty girder Jan 8, 2019, 6:55 PM

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The rex isnt gonna rumble

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The roar is too iconic

unborn quail Jan 8, 2019, 6:56 PM

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My question is why there are suggestions pertaining to 'in real life it did x', When the game isn't meant to be realistic as is

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 6:56 PM

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remember the game takes inspiration to jurassic park

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youve seen the rex in jp

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did it rumble

unborn quail Jan 8, 2019, 6:56 PM

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~~Yes~~

mighty girder Jan 8, 2019, 6:57 PM

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NeekoFail

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Imagine wanting realism in a game with emp dinos

unborn quail Jan 8, 2019, 6:57 PM

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Or giant monsters that defy the laws of physics

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 6:57 PM

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imagine wanting realism in a game where rex and spino lived in the same place at the same time

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jurasicpark reference u kidding me ).)

unborn quail Jan 8, 2019, 6:58 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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Saurian is for those who want realism, if it ever enters a more playable state

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The Isle isn't

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 6:59 PM

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if the game wasn't ment to be realistic in some sort of way dondi would allow pink camo's for the dinos but he ain't.

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if you want realism go play bob

mighty girder Jan 8, 2019, 6:59 PM

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Dont mention that game you'll start an explosion

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 6:59 PM

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pink/purple neon dinos in bob=realism

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mkay

unborn quail Jan 8, 2019, 6:59 PM

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I never said it wasn't supposed to follow common sense

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That and it's his game

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He can do as he pleases

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 7:00 PM

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the distance between spino and rex even using the smallest estimated time is still longer than human beings bein a thing

mighty girder Jan 8, 2019, 7:00 PM

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Anyways got my point across, The rex rumbling would be dumb, would ruin part of the novelty of playing and hearing rex in this game. Plus it would make them toss away god knows how much money because the roar animations would be useless if they changed it

unborn quail Jan 8, 2019, 7:00 PM

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^^^

mighty girder Jan 8, 2019, 7:01 PM

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it aint practical, it wouldnt make sense, and Im sure in a months time some paper will come out claiming the rex did roar or that it squeaked instead

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 7:01 PM

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thankyou

unborn quail Jan 8, 2019, 7:01 PM

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Or it barked like a dog

mighty girder Jan 8, 2019, 7:01 PM

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Reason why Saurian can't get anywhere, dino theories change all the time

unborn quail Jan 8, 2019, 7:01 PM

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Kappa

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 7:02 PM

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it doesn't make sense but science says it? you do'nt believe in science?

mighty girder Jan 8, 2019, 7:02 PM

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Idc about science

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if you wanna go argue about science theres a channel for that

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#paleotalk

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 7:02 PM

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i guess u'r a religious person then if u don't believe in science?

mighty girder Jan 8, 2019, 7:02 PM

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Science said the rex was feathery and changed its mind

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 7:03 PM

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w o a h n o w

mighty girder Jan 8, 2019, 7:03 PM

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My beliefs dont really matter pertaining to the reasons I just listed on why your suggestion is bad, but nah

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 7:03 PM

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lets not

mighty girder Jan 8, 2019, 7:03 PM

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Like i said, got my point across, good day sir

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 7:03 PM

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why did you gotta do that

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sigh

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stop making drama out of it so what if his religious just wondering -.-

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🤦

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bye

unborn quail Jan 8, 2019, 7:04 PM

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More like implying and outright shitting on them for it

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But

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 7:04 PM

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uhg..

unborn quail Jan 8, 2019, 7:04 PM

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Choose your words more wisely next time

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 7:04 PM

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you literally just stereotyped him

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before i even know it i'll be called a rapiest or something close to it :'p

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rapiest

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no one is calling youthat

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uhg

fast cipher Jan 8, 2019, 7:50 PM

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@barren zephyr that is completely unproven that the rex had a hum, that was just a video showing what it could be like.

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As the rex having feathers that theory has been disproved

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To be honest I don’t think the rex call is that impressive anyways, in comparison to the giga the rex call is completely squashed, the only reason the rex call is scary is because well, it’s a rex, and knowing a rex is near you I scary. Not the call itself

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Just imo^

verbal acorn Jan 8, 2019, 7:59 PM

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What reptile, especially large reptile has a roar? It would appear the best they can do is chirp, sqwuak, worbble, or honk, rumble and guttural hiss if large.

Personally, I’d be fine if these were the only sounds provided in game.

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 8:00 PM

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Lets just give it a duck quack dondiWeSmart

verbal acorn Jan 8, 2019, 8:01 PM

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Not so much of a quack...but some inspired by it.

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Something trumpety and bleating.

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I’d accept something like a screaming goat

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 8:02 PM

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Something as @mighty girder said unneeded

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but dilo need to go more zoom

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Im still sure ur a troll so im not feedin ur bullshit

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im not

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Not u

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dilo needs to go faster than para

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Stride wins i guess

static compass Jan 8, 2019, 8:04 PM

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I do like the nested as an albino but i think they are going to make it so if bad players nest, their child will be albino

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anD hOw wOUld we kNow whAt A rEx soUNds likE ?

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 8:05 PM

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it go WEEWOO

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gasp

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The only reason id enjoy albino

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Is to force that shit head out of my herd

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To keep the rest of them safe

static compass Jan 8, 2019, 8:06 PM

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i uh

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i really really love albino skins for some reason

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so im going to go for that route

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And if rex's used vibration its prey would be like 1 mile away always

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 8:07 PM

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Well i hope ur never in my herd

static compass Jan 8, 2019, 8:07 PM

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wHY

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 8:07 PM

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Cus ima damn near kill u

static compass Jan 8, 2019, 8:07 PM

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why

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 8:07 PM

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Ugly white boi

static compass Jan 8, 2019, 8:07 PM

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;;

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:C

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<3 i will still love you ;;

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 8:07 PM

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dondiSquint

static compass Jan 8, 2019, 8:08 PM

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dondiFeelsGoodMan

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 8:09 PM

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godwananana

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sincerly

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ss

verbal acorn Jan 8, 2019, 8:12 PM

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What would a Rex use it’s vocalizations for? Pack communications, alerting/alarms, long distance territorial and booty calls?

I wager the Rex had low frequency guttural rumblings as its primary vocal...with shorter, higher freq calls when young.

Infrequent Low-frequency calls could be used to attract mates at long range, or as a means of announcing territorial ownership...without providing distant prey items detailed audible indications of exactly where the neighborhood Rex is.

mighty girder Jan 8, 2019, 8:15 PM

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#paleotalk

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 8:21 PM

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@fast cipher it is proven that the rex had really sensitive hearing and with that mind it proves it even more,i doubt a rex pair that would have been hunting 60million years ago would roar to communicate since that'll scare the prey away.

native nebula Jan 8, 2019, 8:32 PM

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the Rex is going to sound mostly like the one from Jurassic Park, because that's what most people expect and what the head of the project wants. also- low frequency calls are not very audible to the human ear over long distances, we're much more attuned to high frequencies like the cry of a baby, which most people can pick out with ease. for that reason all of The Isle's dinosaurs feature high elements so that they're easily identifiable at long range.

thorny lynx Jan 8, 2019, 8:38 PM

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I thought Dondi said he was not going to change Rex's call to the JP one...

I honestly hate it. It sounds like you threw an elephant into a blender.

coarse shell Jan 8, 2019, 8:39 PM

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same

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i prefer the current one

steady cosmos Jan 8, 2019, 8:39 PM

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Thats what movie dinosaur calls were back then

coarse shell Jan 8, 2019, 8:39 PM

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its the best trex roar ive ever heard tbh

jade schooner Jan 8, 2019, 8:42 PM

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I saw a video once and they used a bear’s “roaring” sound for rex

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Felt so wrong

violet magnet Jan 8, 2019, 8:44 PM

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rex call right now just needs more bass and to be louder

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giga roars are Goddamn terrifying in comparison

native nebula Jan 8, 2019, 8:45 PM

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this is where i've got it to currently. as for the current calls, a few of those will be getting modified and updated to work with the Magna Rex when it goes in.

📎 RexBroadcastUpdateMixdownWIP.wav

violet magnet Jan 8, 2019, 8:46 PM

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......this isn't anywhere near the final version is it

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rex sounds like it has bronchitis

jade schooner Jan 8, 2019, 8:46 PM

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I love giga roars tbh

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Like: holy shit, nope, turn around, not heading there

violet magnet Jan 8, 2019, 8:47 PM

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giga 3 call from a distance
😩 👌

verbal acorn Jan 8, 2019, 8:47 PM

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I know that roar sounds “cool”and is a great job of capturing the feel of JP...but then you realize it’s the sound of a Lion roaring just as it gets hit by a commuter train.

violet magnet Jan 8, 2019, 8:47 PM

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"that sounds amazing but i'm noping the fuck outta here bye y'all"

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............~~the rex broadcast update up there sounds rreeeeaaalllllyyyy similar to the BoB rex broadcast now that i think about it~~

native nebula Jan 8, 2019, 8:50 PM

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never played it

violet magnet Jan 8, 2019, 8:51 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXyL6bu72T8

YouTube

Senoba

Rex Roar 1

for Beasts of Bermuda.

▶ Play video

native nebula Jan 8, 2019, 8:51 PM

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sounds like the mating call from walking with dinosaurs

coarse shell Jan 8, 2019, 8:51 PM

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that wip broadcast cracks me up tbh

native nebula Jan 8, 2019, 8:51 PM

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they're using a couple of the same breath effects from what i can hear there, it's the Creatures collection.

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 8:52 PM

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I think bird like sounds are the more terrifying. Hopefully one of the carnivores will have them in the future. Theri is the most terrifying sound to me

violet magnet Jan 8, 2019, 8:54 PM

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@stable cloud planned already
https://www.twitch.tv/rr_raptor65/clip/SavageDoubtfulCiderEleGiggle?filter=clips&range=24hr&sort=time

Twitch

RR_Raptor65 Playing Creative - Twitch Clips

Corpse Carrying - Clipped by TheSynopsis

▶ Play video

verbal acorn Jan 8, 2019, 8:54 PM

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Dilos, Utahs and Raptor are the most immersive sounds...and they utterly send chills up my spine and put me on edge.

native nebula Jan 8, 2019, 8:54 PM

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@barren zephyr I mean, that's made of squealing pigs, but ok.

stable cloud Jan 8, 2019, 8:54 PM

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Ooh! Neat! I'm looking forward to that being added, then.

leaden night Jan 8, 2019, 8:55 PM

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@verbal acorn Ack, which one

split notch Jan 8, 2019, 8:56 PM

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@barren zephyr One already does. Austro has Kookaburra sounds

next nexus Jan 8, 2019, 8:57 PM

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~~not to mention dilo broadcast~~

verbal acorn Jan 8, 2019, 8:58 PM

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All of three feels like an ice pick in the back of the neck....though the Raptor tends to only do it when I’m a juvi. But that Raptor’s final threat call after it evades gets me every time if I’m not expecting it.

leaden night Jan 8, 2019, 8:58 PM

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No that wasn't the question

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You said Utah and Raptor

verbal acorn Jan 8, 2019, 8:58 PM

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Utah and Velo, excuse me

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The Velo is just a Raptor in my head

leaden night Jan 8, 2019, 8:59 PM

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~~Velos sounds are more that of a food bell to me~~

verbal acorn Jan 8, 2019, 9:00 PM

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Play as a early juvi Giga with no alt-turn...the Velo becomes a menace

stoic wing Jan 8, 2019, 9:24 PM

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sounds like a high pitched primal carnage rex

jovial arch Jan 8, 2019, 9:25 PM

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@safe sequoia the only problem I see with this is eating or drinking in combat

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Sometimes you need to

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I know I’ve needed to a few times on Cerato

mighty girder Jan 8, 2019, 9:27 PM

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That new rex broadcast is....well if its what dondi wants guess there isnt much anyone can do but its a yikes from me captain

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Sounds like its in pain

safe sequoia Jan 8, 2019, 9:28 PM

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Thats why it should be risky to eat/drink in combat @jovial arch

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Only desperate animals would do so

violet magnet Jan 8, 2019, 9:29 PM

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desperate animals would be hyped up on adrenaline and would probably not immediately feel pain, either

jovial arch Jan 8, 2019, 9:30 PM

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Yeah

safe sequoia Jan 8, 2019, 9:30 PM

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Then, maybe that should be an other good mechanic in wich they have a decrese/resistance/x1/2 on bleed while being starving on close to it

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 9:30 PM

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@violet magnet noone said it's finall

safe sequoia Jan 8, 2019, 9:34 PM

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But, related to some mechanic of distraction resulting in more damage would fit, in my opinion, very well.
Not the tipical distracted player that is afk while drinking and you can have a ton of bites on it :p

jovial arch Jan 8, 2019, 9:37 PM

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I routinely bait people to attack me by eating

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Honestly

finite perch Jan 8, 2019, 9:41 PM

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with the damage taken from starvation im not sure how valuable a resistance would really be at the end of the day, it would only really benefit things capable of starving for quite some time

jovial arch Jan 8, 2019, 9:41 PM

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Eating and drinking tend to be when I’m most alert

native nebula Jan 8, 2019, 9:42 PM

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@mighty girder there's sorta two different ways it could go, T.Rex is essentially getting the sounds that were going to be used for Magna Rex, but with some tweaks. The core of the original Magna broadcast felt a little light and raspy, so the clip posted above is version 2 that was intended to be deeper and more resonant. This is the older Magna broadcast, which I think might end up being used for the subadult now..

📎 RexBroadcastUpdateV1.wav

grave bough Jan 8, 2019, 9:43 PM

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Will calls be different for adult males/females of Survival dinos?

regal sapphire Jan 8, 2019, 9:45 PM

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https://youtu.be/jdNgZTosYl4?t=5 so uh I’m hearing this a lot in the one you posted earlier Dino

YouTube

MasRellim

All Roars From Primal Carnage (PC)

All of the badass roars from Primal Carnage. I didn't include the Spinosaurus but if you want it, check my uploads

▶ Play video

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👀

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The first one you posted

native nebula Jan 8, 2019, 9:47 PM

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elephants are cool.

next nexus Jan 8, 2019, 9:48 PM

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its a yikes from me too chief, not to sound mean but its coming across as generic and weak af imo.

regal sapphire Jan 8, 2019, 9:48 PM

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Oh I’m just hinting at the primal carnage buyout that is potentially confirmed

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But idk if it is fully? That one tweet implies it

native nebula Jan 8, 2019, 9:49 PM

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it's not supposed to sound like the biggest predator in the world, there's larger apexes let alone the strain animals. part of the reason the magna sounds are being moved across is because the original Rex roars feel a bit larger and more suited to something of that size.

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 9:49 PM

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Current Rex broadcast > JP-ish Rex broadcast

stoic wing Jan 8, 2019, 9:50 PM

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still it doesnt sound as menacing as Giga

native nebula Jan 8, 2019, 9:50 PM

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Giga is bigger.

mighty girder Jan 8, 2019, 9:50 PM

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Giga should sound more menacing

regal sapphire Jan 8, 2019, 9:50 PM

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Rex has a bigger bite

mighty girder Jan 8, 2019, 9:50 PM

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it IS more menacing lol

stoic wing Jan 8, 2019, 9:50 PM

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im talking about adult rex here

mighty girder Jan 8, 2019, 9:50 PM

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As am I

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 9:51 PM

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Whether Rex sounds more/less menacing than giga is kind of irrelevant

mighty girder Jan 8, 2019, 9:52 PM

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I can see the reasoning, and those roars are definitely too light for magna, just concerned its also too light for rex. Even if it isnt huge compared to other dinosaurs it is still an apex

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 9:52 PM

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Current broadcast is loud, deep, terrifying. JP roar sounds..

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Way less intimidating

thorny lynx Jan 8, 2019, 9:52 PM

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It doesn't sound as menacing as giga because the devs cranked up giga's volume and now Rex's outdated roar sounds like a fricken joke.

mighty girder Jan 8, 2019, 9:53 PM

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Yeah, that new roar isnt gonna send chills down my spine

stoic wing Jan 8, 2019, 9:53 PM

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Yeah i like it when things are more original

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 9:53 PM

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Don’t get me wrong

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I grew up with JP

thorny lynx Jan 8, 2019, 9:53 PM

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Rex needs a sound quality update. It's too quiet and sounds a bit mono in quality

stoic wing Jan 8, 2019, 9:53 PM

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who haven't

thorny lynx Jan 8, 2019, 9:53 PM

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Jp rex: RHEEEEEEEEEEEEE

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 9:53 PM

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But I stopped liking the JP Rex roar upon hearing TI Rex roar

mighty girder Jan 8, 2019, 9:53 PM

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^^^

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If the magna needs bigger sounds maybe try finding a blend between hyper/normal rex sounds leaning more towards normal if the deepness is needed but...The proposed magna roars are too light and airy for both creatures imo

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 9:55 PM

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^

thorny lynx Jan 8, 2019, 9:55 PM

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It feels like the Rex call update is way too short compared to Giga, now...

mighty girder Jan 8, 2019, 9:56 PM

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P sure the length didnt change

thorny lynx Jan 8, 2019, 9:56 PM

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Honestly, giga is so loud right now, I don't feel hypo giga noises will sound so scary

native nebula Jan 8, 2019, 9:56 PM

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we've been trending towards shorter calls in general, but it's only slightly less than the original

thorny lynx Jan 8, 2019, 9:56 PM

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Are you guys going to shorten Giga calls or make them quieter?

native nebula Jan 8, 2019, 9:56 PM

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there's a general rebalancing of all sound levels coming up, but Giga will be getting some special attention to rebalance things.

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since that one is a bit.. out there.

thorny lynx Jan 8, 2019, 9:57 PM

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The only thing wrong with their calls before the update was how loud their f, 2, and 3 call sounded at a distance.

next nexus Jan 8, 2019, 9:57 PM

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it doesn't help that almost every dino game from zoo tycoon 1 to mesozoica has tried to ape the JP rex roar to varying degrees, if I had heard this rex roar and wasn't told what project it was for it could be literally any dinosaur game made in the past 10 years, it comes across as super generic, uninspired and doesn't have any oomph or believability that an actual animal is making this noise.

But thats just my opinion and it is a wip

thorny lynx Jan 8, 2019, 9:58 PM

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The thing I like about TI roar is that it sounds unique and not another JP recreation

coarse shell Jan 8, 2019, 9:58 PM

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i love giga roars as is tbh

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its just that they're kinda... bugged atm

thorny lynx Jan 8, 2019, 9:58 PM

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Giga 2 loud I can't hear rex and paras anymore

native nebula Jan 8, 2019, 9:58 PM

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the process for creating roars is undergoing a bit of a rework. the different elements are all split up to allow for greater flexibility, so what you're hearing is a mushed down version of what'd be in-game, where things like the underlying growls are further adjusted based on distance.

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 9:58 PM

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TI Rex: blood curdling epic roar, sends other dinos running
JP Rex: stumbles up to lake, trying not to trip over his walker. Puts on his bi-focals. Let’s out a mighty WHEEEEEEZE. Puts his oxygen mask back on and stumbles back into bed

stoic wing Jan 8, 2019, 9:58 PM

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The best trex roar imo is the one they use in dino crisis even if its a generic roar

mighty girder Jan 8, 2019, 9:59 PM

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Ark change your name XD

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 9:59 PM

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Why

mighty girder Jan 8, 2019, 9:59 PM

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The injection witches are dead

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 9:59 PM

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You don’t want to dm me for a Spino egg?

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Fine have it your way

mighty girder Jan 8, 2019, 10:00 PM

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XD lol

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 10:00 PM

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Angry

mighty girder Jan 8, 2019, 10:00 PM

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Anyways, I suppose it is still a work in progress, I'll sit back and wait to see what you do with it Dinosauriac

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 10:02 PM

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Oh yeah to clarify, Dinos sounds are all amazing, I’m just way more partial to TI roar than JP imo

native nebula Jan 8, 2019, 10:03 PM

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like i said, that one will probably still be around, just not coming from that particular mouth.

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 10:07 PM

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Pic

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Oic*

stoic wing Jan 8, 2019, 10:07 PM

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i still prefer it when you come up with more original roars

thorny lynx Jan 8, 2019, 10:24 PM

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I'll miss the current Rex roar... I don't want him to have a JP roar.

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Plus, once current Rex roar gets used on a hypo or something, we lose the novelty of hearing a hypo or magna.

violet magnet Jan 8, 2019, 10:44 PM

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ngl i really hope we don't end up with just the JP rex roar transplanted over TI rex's broadcast
rex broadcast/soundset right now is fine and terrifying, the only problem is that it's too quiet compared to other dinos ~~(coughgiga)~~

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also i kinda like the BIG dinos like magna and hypo having comparatively "weak" and "airy" sounding roars ~~but legit cannot say why, just a personal preference~~

keen crypt Jan 8, 2019, 11:00 PM

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I'm also not a fan of having the more JP sound. Not because it sounds bad but more so because of how much its been aped over the years. As others have pointed out basically every Dinosaur game in the last decade uses some form of JP 'inspired' roar for their Rexes. The Isle has some pretty unique and amazing sounds for their dinosaurs and i'd hate to see some of it gone to scratch that JP nostalgia itch.

barren zephyr Jan 8, 2019, 11:08 PM

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that second t rex roar sounded really good

brisk mesa Jan 8, 2019, 11:19 PM

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Wait, what did I miss? Is Trex's roar being scrapped in favor of a... JP one?

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@finite perch The devs apparently tried this out but it had... issues.

finite perch Jan 8, 2019, 11:22 PM

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oh shit really?

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thats awesome that they tried!!

brisk mesa Jan 8, 2019, 11:22 PM

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As I said, it had issues.

finite perch Jan 8, 2019, 11:22 PM

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~~also is there a video im missing i feel this is a story~~

brisk mesa Jan 8, 2019, 11:22 PM

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IK a dev posted a pic a long while back

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when someone asked basically the same question.

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I just don't remember the reasoning why there were issues.

finite perch Jan 8, 2019, 11:23 PM

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i can see several ways this could go haywire, so i dont doubt it! 😬 game dev be like that

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still, im really impressed they tried. not everything works out, but they really are thinking hard about their game and i admire that

coarse shell Jan 8, 2019, 11:50 PM

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@finite perch

📎 unknown.png

finite perch Jan 9, 2019, 12:10 AM

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oooh thank you!!!

still temple Jan 9, 2019, 12:49 AM

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wouldn't mind more crocs in TI besides deino

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muh diversity, theres bound to be one or two more that can fit into the Isle

📎 crocodylomorphs.png

coarse shell Jan 9, 2019, 12:58 AM

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@frank zinc if not moving your head for aesthetic reasons like for screenshots wasnt able to be done during animations like sniffing and roaring especially it'd be pretty damn useless to add because thats one of the things people like to do in a screenshot lol

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want a cool picture of a t rex roaring at the camera? aw shit, welp, dont work with roars

frank zinc Jan 9, 2019, 1:01 AM

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The thing is, I wouldn't want the locked head to mess with the animations. It'd be weird to roar, lock your head, then run around/sniff with a wide open jaw

coarse shell Jan 9, 2019, 1:01 AM

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and iirc this used to be a feature way back but it was removed for whatever reason

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there was no issue with the head lock and animations together

frank zinc Jan 9, 2019, 1:15 AM

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Really? huh
If they could get it to work with the roars, that'd be neat too

wraith trout Jan 9, 2019, 1:47 AM

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@verbal acorn so you are saying that you think you should leave food behind when you log out?

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if so, that's a bad solution to the problem

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There are already measures in place to avoid combat logging, and they work alright.

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if you left food behind when despawning, that would be heavily exploitable

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if would break the game a lot more than it would fix it

normal fern Jan 9, 2019, 1:57 AM

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@verbal acorn A starving T. rex could just log out and log back in, boom free food.

Applies to all carnivores

verbal acorn Jan 9, 2019, 2:11 AM

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We would need to tie the carcass to the player...so respawning would despawns the carcass

wraith trout Jan 9, 2019, 2:13 AM

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A starving rexes friend could despawn and boom free food

verbal acorn Jan 9, 2019, 2:16 AM

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If your carcass is eaten, you are given a re-log cool-down so you can’t respawn in server for 30mins...or you re-log with severe HP lose....or both.

verbal acorn Jan 9, 2019, 2:31 AM

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If necessary, have the despawn carcass only happen for herbivore despawns

wraith trout Jan 9, 2019, 2:50 AM

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I still think it is far too exploitable

last remnant Jan 9, 2019, 3:39 AM

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Just to clarify, do you mean the picture or just the nametag?

noble sleet Jan 9, 2019, 3:43 AM

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Just the nametags.

last remnant Jan 9, 2019, 3:43 AM

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kk

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I would agree with you.

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I gave it the old thumbs up

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;D

regal sapphire Jan 9, 2019, 3:56 AM

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Tbh I would be fine if nametags themselves had 40-60% opacity and the pictures were removed entirely

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Pictures have been a stain since nametags were introduced

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I don’t want to see anime Hitler or some other dumb shit on my screen while I’m hunting

violet magnet Jan 9, 2019, 3:58 AM

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you could disable nametags on your game, but on other people's screens they'd still be able to see yours and you wouldn't be able to tell what "nametag range" was

regal sapphire Jan 9, 2019, 3:59 AM

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I mean yeah

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It doesn’t diminish that pictures are a nuisance for literally everyone

violet magnet Jan 9, 2019, 3:59 AM

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stalking something with nametags turned off and crouch before it sees you, but it saw your nametag already and bolted, whoops

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yep

regal sapphire Jan 9, 2019, 4:00 AM

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Also nametags are best when group only

hidden aspen Jan 9, 2019, 4:02 AM

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has anyone suggested being ablle to pick up the corpses of smaller dinos in order to drag them to pack mates or take them to a safer place to eat?

stable cloud Jan 9, 2019, 4:07 AM

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Yes. It’s being worked on.

hidden aspen Jan 9, 2019, 4:07 AM

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dondiYay

grave bough Jan 9, 2019, 4:15 AM

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Maybe instead of a set opacity, it could come as a slider option.

jovial arch Jan 9, 2019, 4:27 AM

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@last remnant

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I'm pretty sure increasing spawns with decreasing player counts is already in the game

agile whale Jan 9, 2019, 4:34 AM

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Threetails, it kind of used to be when it was first put in, and it was way too overpowered. Can you expand more on the idea with more details so we can get a better idea of what you mean by that?

jovial arch Jan 9, 2019, 4:35 AM

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uh

agile whale Jan 9, 2019, 4:35 AM

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Not lakes necessarily, but sniffing in general

jovial arch Jan 9, 2019, 4:35 AM

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so like

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the scent lasts the same amount of time

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it's just that whether you can see it or not

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is variable

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hmmm

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though you're right

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this makes it a lot harder to escape down a river or a lake

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huh

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i dunno though you can still see tracks through water

violet magnet Jan 9, 2019, 4:37 AM

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maybe if you hit q again while things were still lit up it could "deactivate" the things

jovial arch Jan 9, 2019, 4:37 AM

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oh

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@agile whale

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i understand

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no

violet magnet Jan 9, 2019, 4:37 AM

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"deactivate" as in turn off the lights, not make it so you can sniff, deactivate, then immediately sniff again

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because that is hella exploitable

jovial arch Jan 9, 2019, 4:38 AM

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i don't mean that it should be a toggle

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yeah

agile whale Jan 9, 2019, 4:38 AM

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That makes more sense

jovial arch Jan 9, 2019, 4:38 AM

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let me just completely rewrite it

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i can understand why the wording would cause confusion

last remnant Jan 9, 2019, 4:42 AM

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It’s not really in the game. It’s just that over a specific player number the spawns are not as numerous, but the number of spawns between a server with 80 and a server with 10 seem to be relatively the same.

jovial arch Jan 9, 2019, 4:42 AM

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oh

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im pretty sure there's another jump at like 40 though

last remnant Jan 9, 2019, 4:42 AM

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Maybe

jovial arch Jan 9, 2019, 4:42 AM

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or it might be 50

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yeah

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ok

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i hear you

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it makes sense

last remnant Jan 9, 2019, 4:43 AM

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I feel like the scaling of AI won’t detract people from lower pop servers.

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It seems like it’s mighty hard to start a new server on The Isle.

jovial arch Jan 9, 2019, 4:44 AM

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yes

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i completely agree

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i just got confused because we already have a similar system

last remnant Jan 9, 2019, 4:44 AM

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We do.

jovial arch Jan 9, 2019, 4:44 AM

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it's just not great

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i totally hear you

last remnant Jan 9, 2019, 4:45 AM

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Right

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The scaling needs to be improve a bit.

jovial arch Jan 9, 2019, 4:46 AM

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👍

last remnant Jan 9, 2019, 4:46 AM

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😉

barren zephyr Jan 9, 2019, 5:52 AM

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The blue scent is blinding especially at night. I wish there was a way to smell footprints without smelling water. Maybe a second sniff key binding that only brings up the compass and footprints?

arctic nexus Jan 9, 2019, 8:24 AM

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Well if you sniff. You get scents from all thongs in the area. Naturally the way it is now, has more realisticness.

stable cloud Jan 9, 2019, 8:29 AM

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Except, maybe adding it so that you can smell corpses. Which they’re doing. It’ll help the scavengers quite a bit.

native nebula Jan 9, 2019, 3:04 PM

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remember that scent still isn't finished, what is in-game right now is a temporary solution. the final version will have trails that lead you to water, etc. instead of relying on x-ray vision so much.

barren zephyr Jan 9, 2019, 4:02 PM

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dondiYay

unborn quail Jan 9, 2019, 4:47 PM

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https://clips.twitch.tv/FaintSarcasticSpaghettiMau5 @coral scroll

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Already being worked on.

verbal acorn Jan 9, 2019, 5:06 PM

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Squeallllll!

barren zephyr Jan 9, 2019, 5:52 PM

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tfw King doesn't ask you for help on suggestions anymore

icy venture Jan 9, 2019, 5:54 PM

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dondiSucc

blazing charm Jan 9, 2019, 9:23 PM

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:c

coral scroll Jan 10, 2019, 3:10 AM

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@unborn quail thank you!

unborn quail Jan 10, 2019, 3:10 AM

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Np

still temple Jan 10, 2019, 7:45 AM

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tf is a sebicisuchus

barren zephyr Jan 10, 2019, 7:56 AM

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a type of land crocodile

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the spelling could be wrong

still temple Jan 10, 2019, 8:07 AM

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find the right spelling then

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cus having a reference to what the creature actually looks like is helpful

barren zephyr Jan 10, 2019, 8:15 AM

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this is like a close relative so a few minor changes can be done

📎 220px-Bretesuchus_bonapartei.png

tepid light Jan 10, 2019, 8:21 AM

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@still temple https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sebecia this is what he means I think

Sebecia

Sebecia is an extinct clade of mesoeucrocodylian crocodyliforms that includes peirosaurids and sebecids. It was first constructed in 2007 to include Hamadasuchus, Peirosauridae, and Sebecus. It was initially considered to be the sister taxon of the clade Neosuchia, which incl...

barren zephyr Jan 10, 2019, 8:23 AM

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yeah

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exactly the one but it had thicker jaws thats the only diffrence

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from the front

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@median badger From my experience, Maia is fine where it's at. It can handle several Utahs considering it 2-Hit-Kills them. Alongside this, Maia has really good bleed healing, so if you ward off a Utah attack you most likely won't die to bleed. These two counters also carry over to Dilo. Maias should easily fall victims to Allos or predators of larger size if they are able to reach abush distance. Maia is faster than most carnivores, including Utah. All in all, Maia has enough speed to avoid both Utahs, Dilos, and Allos given that they don't sneak up on you. It has more than enough power to kill both Utahs and Dilos with ease.

tawny dust Jan 10, 2019, 8:34 AM

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@oblique crown that's already a thing

oblique crown Jan 10, 2019, 8:41 AM

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@tawny dust i know /stuck is anthing but it doesn't work because the push is like a a few cm instead of feet

tawny dust Jan 10, 2019, 8:42 AM

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true but it moves you to the closest "walkable" land

tawny dust Jan 10, 2019, 9:26 AM

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@oblique crown how would you know who's nesting?

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if you know somebody is nesting you can just message them asking for a nest 🤷

oblique crown Jan 10, 2019, 9:28 AM

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message them how? not everyone who plays the isle is on this discord

tawny dust Jan 10, 2019, 9:29 AM

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steam then

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or anything else

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if you know someone is nesting you must have messaged them somewhere

oblique crown Jan 10, 2019, 9:30 AM

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But you wont know if someone is nesting that's why i made that in suggestions the option to let anyone who has a nest or eggs that you are willing to be nested.

tawny dust Jan 10, 2019, 9:32 AM

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so just another button to spam when you want to join a group of players?

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atm people spam group invite

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people would just spam this button to everyone on the server

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trying to join their group

oblique crown Jan 10, 2019, 9:33 AM

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No more like a queue.

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that would prevent nesting spam in a way

tawny dust Jan 10, 2019, 9:33 AM

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i think i'm misunderstanding this a little bit

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so you're suggesting is to add another button like the group invite one.. which you can send to random people to see if they're nesting and if they are let them know you want to be nested?

oblique crown Jan 10, 2019, 10:17 AM

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@tawny dust

📎 blah7.png

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like that

tawny dust Jan 10, 2019, 10:18 AM

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oh @oblique crown

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that makes a lot more sense, yeah that could be a cool idea

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nice edit btw

coarse shell Jan 10, 2019, 3:14 PM

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@valid flower almost everything can run from rex you know lol

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and it cant even solo trike

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not anymore at least

valid flower Jan 10, 2019, 3:18 PM

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It can solo trike.

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just ambush, bite.

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leg broken.

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ambush

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bite.

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keep doing it.

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trust me a lot of my trike friends died to rexes.

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and i did aswell.

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like my 8th time dying to an adult rex

arctic kiln Jan 10, 2019, 3:19 PM

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How recently though

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Besides trike turns insanely well with a broken leg

valid flower Jan 10, 2019, 3:20 PM

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Leg break plus 500 bite force.

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Lost my adult spino from just 5 bites.

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couldnt do anything since my leg was gone.

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with in the first bite leg got fucked up.

arctic kiln Jan 10, 2019, 3:20 PM

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That's odd because we've had spino players tank a lot more than 5 bites

valid flower Jan 10, 2019, 3:20 PM

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trust me

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i bit it over 6 times

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got shit on the 5th bite

arctic kiln Jan 10, 2019, 3:21 PM

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Are you sure this the survival Rex?

valid flower Jan 10, 2019, 3:21 PM

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2 bites got me to 2nd almost 3rd screen

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Yes

feral wedge Jan 10, 2019, 3:21 PM

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What server is this on?

valid flower Jan 10, 2019, 3:21 PM

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Teutonic EU.

feral wedge Jan 10, 2019, 3:21 PM

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Lol

topaz epoch Jan 10, 2019, 3:21 PM

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@median badger Maia is already faster than both Utah and Allo