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wintry cipher Dec 21, 2018, 3:02 AM

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no i meant behaving like pike. sorry

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have you seen the videos of pike snatching ducklings or other birds?

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freaking scary

waxen elk Dec 21, 2018, 3:02 AM

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oh shit

wintry cipher Dec 21, 2018, 3:02 AM

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just swim underwater for 10 mins or so downstream, only pop your head up once, and otherwise go unnoticed

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sniff for footprints every now and again

lethal mauve Dec 21, 2018, 3:03 AM

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I would enjoy different species of fish, would definitely make fishing more interesting

wintry cipher Dec 21, 2018, 3:03 AM

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and see if a juvie is frequenting an area

lethal mauve Dec 21, 2018, 3:03 AM

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some of them capable of killing an austro, but a better meal for suchos, etc.

waxen elk Dec 21, 2018, 3:03 AM

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Yeah i doubt an Austro would take on a 1.5 ton Juvi giga'

lethal mauve Dec 21, 2018, 3:03 AM

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arapaimas would be dope

wintry cipher Dec 21, 2018, 3:04 AM

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theres a lot of other juvies out there XD

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i would say it could yank something into the water and drown it, but it doesnt have the jaw strength

waxen elk Dec 21, 2018, 3:04 AM

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I still feel it shouldn't be a 1 shot for Utah just so it can actually escape

wintry cipher Dec 21, 2018, 3:05 AM

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i said one shot for utah pounce. but i doubt it would survive an extended run with one bite of bleed either

lethal mauve Dec 21, 2018, 3:05 AM

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Doubt it would be if they would be similar weight mass, or slightly under utah

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the bleed on the otherhand is a different story depending on many variables

waxen elk Dec 21, 2018, 3:05 AM

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oh god

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yeah the bleed is a problem

lethal mauve Dec 21, 2018, 3:05 AM

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but if you could run into the water and heal bleed off then it would be a smart counter to stick around water

waxen elk Dec 21, 2018, 3:05 AM

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But idk if i should call that a Utah issue or an Austro issue

wintry cipher Dec 21, 2018, 3:05 AM

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an austro feasibly shouldnt be spotted out of the water -otherwise it just turns into a situation of "survives the attack and dies in the water"

lethal mauve Dec 21, 2018, 3:05 AM

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unless thatll attract predators to eat your ass

wintry cipher Dec 21, 2018, 3:06 AM

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i dont think an austro would be able to rest in water

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it has to swim

lethal mauve Dec 21, 2018, 3:06 AM

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Yeah, but it would be better than running

wintry cipher Dec 21, 2018, 3:06 AM

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sucho, however, is heavy enough to do so

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ehhh

lethal mauve Dec 21, 2018, 3:06 AM

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which it would be doing if it was stuck on land with a utah on it's ass

wintry cipher Dec 21, 2018, 3:06 AM

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same effects imo

lethal mauve Dec 21, 2018, 3:06 AM

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You take less damage while walking, and even while trotting than running

wintry cipher Dec 21, 2018, 3:07 AM

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excactly. but what would swimming classify as?

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running

lethal mauve Dec 21, 2018, 3:07 AM

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and considering you wouldn't have to move quickly in water you would be fine

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Not if you are floating

wintry cipher Dec 21, 2018, 3:07 AM

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youd float downriver then if it has a current

lethal mauve Dec 21, 2018, 3:07 AM

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that's situational

wintry cipher Dec 21, 2018, 3:07 AM

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and nothing stops the utah from jumping in after you to try and drag you out

lethal mauve Dec 21, 2018, 3:07 AM

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except for the fact that you are still way more adept at swimming

wintry cipher Dec 21, 2018, 3:08 AM

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mhm.

lethal mauve Dec 21, 2018, 3:08 AM

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and the utah would have to basically land ontop of you to confirm the kill

wintry cipher Dec 21, 2018, 3:08 AM

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yep

lethal mauve Dec 21, 2018, 3:08 AM

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any smart austro wouldn't let that happen

vagrant kernel Dec 21, 2018, 3:08 AM

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its like a human trying to catch an otter

wintry cipher Dec 21, 2018, 3:08 AM

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exactly. however, just like ive run into with utahs -theres always the people who think they are safe instantly when they get in their safe zone so to speak

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its how ive become a borderline cannibal

lethal mauve Dec 21, 2018, 3:09 AM

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that's a player fault

wintry cipher Dec 21, 2018, 3:09 AM

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mhm XD

lethal mauve Dec 21, 2018, 3:09 AM

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if they suck at the game then that's not balance's problem

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cockiness gets many people killed and it would be no exception for aquatics

wintry cipher Dec 21, 2018, 3:09 AM

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mhm. honestly i hope to see austro in at some point. id love to be a duck -just might be a while yet.

lethal mauve Dec 21, 2018, 3:10 AM

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It would compliment the fishing roster very well

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Definitely a more defined playstyle than something like spinosaurus, which I could see conflicting with deinosuchus in some respects

wintry cipher Dec 21, 2018, 3:10 AM

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sucho would be the bully and slow, ambush based pred. austro would be a much more active more fish-exclusive hunter.

lethal mauve Dec 21, 2018, 3:11 AM

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I wouldn't say it would be fish exclusive

wintry cipher Dec 21, 2018, 3:11 AM

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moreso* it would hunt juveniles and perhaps some small adults

lethal mauve Dec 21, 2018, 3:11 AM

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but yes generally it's just a different niche as a raptor fisher

waxen elk Dec 21, 2018, 3:11 AM

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Seeing Austro get the smaller end would be kind of dissappointing for me tbh, but aight.

lethal mauve Dec 21, 2018, 3:12 AM

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different fishing experience due to not being able to snag larger fish and isn't as limited to the water as sucho, since I assume sucho wouldn't nearly have the same agility as an austro on land

waxen elk Dec 21, 2018, 3:12 AM

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a 6 meter creature somehow uncapable of hunting down a 4 meter herbivore?

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Yeah no

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Dryo would probably enter Austro's diet

lethal mauve Dec 21, 2018, 3:12 AM

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Definitely

waxen elk Dec 21, 2018, 3:12 AM

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I could see Galli even

lethal mauve Dec 21, 2018, 3:12 AM

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whether you can catch it or not when you are adapted to fishing is a different story

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and by adapted to I mean how it would hunt them if you take potential future gimmicks and balance into account in general

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if austro is a fisher it's going to have a gimmick with fishing, or just have it's gimmick be fishing itself or something, because who knows

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meanwhile it wouldn't have something that would make it more effective at terrestrial hunting or give it a defined niche in terrestrial hunting

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besides "If I can bite it and kill it quickly then I'll eat it"

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of which almost all juveniles and some small herbivores would fall under that category

blazing charm Dec 21, 2018, 3:16 AM

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Pretty sure I mentioned it being able to hunt small stuff in the doc

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but

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

waxen elk Dec 21, 2018, 3:16 AM

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ah yeet

tepid light Dec 21, 2018, 3:16 AM

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reading is overrated dondiTroll

blazing charm Dec 21, 2018, 3:17 AM

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Apparently.

waxen elk Dec 21, 2018, 3:17 AM

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Ok chill....

blazing charm Dec 21, 2018, 3:17 AM

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Since people keep doing it with every doc suggestion I make.

waxen elk Dec 21, 2018, 3:17 AM

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I never stated i didn't see that.

blazing charm Dec 21, 2018, 3:17 AM

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I'm completely chill.

lethal mauve Dec 21, 2018, 3:20 AM

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dondiScream

nova shell Dec 21, 2018, 4:00 AM

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@shut gale this idea could work for sure

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in terms of balance, I think some need nerfed (ex. +20% stamina is way too much)

jovial arch Dec 21, 2018, 4:09 AM

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You might wanna roll with stamina regen instead

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flat stamina percentage increase is pretty broken tbh

shut gale Dec 21, 2018, 4:17 AM

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it may need to be tuned down a little. My thought was the utah already has a big amount of stamina so eh :|
Also wanted to make that tree branch appealing

wintry cipher Dec 21, 2018, 4:19 AM

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would not complain either way -higher stamina regen would actually be more appealing as oyu can quickly back off, regen stam, then go back in

shut gale Dec 21, 2018, 4:19 AM

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ya i considered that aswell

wintry cipher Dec 21, 2018, 4:19 AM

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oh wait

shut gale Dec 21, 2018, 4:19 AM

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but went with this one.. that branch could be added

wintry cipher Dec 21, 2018, 4:19 AM

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more stam = more pounce time

shut gale Dec 21, 2018, 4:19 AM

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ya...

wintry cipher Dec 21, 2018, 4:19 AM

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i see now

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yeah thats handy af

shut gale Dec 21, 2018, 4:19 AM

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that's why i went with this one x)

wintry cipher Dec 21, 2018, 4:19 AM

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yee

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hope we get some stuff like that XD

mental sleet Dec 21, 2018, 4:22 AM

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That is an interesting method with the perks.

shut gale Dec 21, 2018, 4:22 AM

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could even add some special abilities like.. if you go thro the stam branch one skill could give less penalty for jumping consecutively

wintry cipher Dec 21, 2018, 4:23 AM

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actually. maybe instead of giving more stam, which could be used for other methods -maybe it should just be a buff to the stam drain from pouncing?

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the quieter footsteps is also a nice touch. i use hearing a LOT in this game

shut gale Dec 21, 2018, 4:24 AM

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ya i thought of that but. i tried to be simple :<

wintry cipher Dec 21, 2018, 4:24 AM

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fair enough

shut gale Dec 21, 2018, 4:24 AM

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not adding too much

wintry cipher Dec 21, 2018, 4:25 AM

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mhm

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keeps the general idea clear and flexible enough to work with

shut gale Dec 21, 2018, 4:25 AM

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but ya you get it. so much could be done with it..

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i actually had it as a way to obtain strains. The Fighter lead to the hypo and the hunter to the Tisso. But i was advised to turn it into a perk system only

wintry cipher Dec 21, 2018, 4:29 AM

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could be an interesting way to go about it -though i think thats its own thing you have to get through interacting with the world

shut gale Dec 21, 2018, 4:30 AM

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ya... i think its better like this

jovial arch Dec 21, 2018, 4:31 AM

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I guess flat stam isn't a bad idea for Utah specifically

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flat stam on something like allo would be pretty busted though

shut gale Dec 21, 2018, 4:32 AM

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ya that tree I made my best to balance it but its for the utah alone

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If it was to be used on other dinos it would need tweeks

arctic nexus Dec 21, 2018, 8:12 AM

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@minor reef There is a reason for this. Looking at real paleontology the apex predator that made the kill, would take its fill (the best bits) then move away.

Smaller Carnivores would then come forward and finish it off. Finally scavengers would eat any extras.

This is greatly influenced in The Isle, not that a Carnivore will simply sit at the body till it completely disappears. Animals eat then go do other things like drink, patrol territory or look after young.

mental sleet Dec 21, 2018, 3:07 PM

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@keen kettle Does your computer crash if you play minecraft with unlimited fps on ?

keen kettle Dec 21, 2018, 3:11 PM

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Couldnt rightly tell you

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I dont play MC

mental sleet Dec 21, 2018, 3:12 PM

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dangit.

keen kettle Dec 21, 2018, 3:16 PM

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Still, it'd be nice to see foilage further than 15-20 meters on "epic" settings. Yes, I run a constant 60+ fps no matter what Im doing up untill maybe 20+ dead corpses in the close vicinity, then it dips to 50, but still... Id like to see dinos further than aprox 100 meters ._.

languid ember Dec 21, 2018, 3:18 PM

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then why don't you play on cinematic??

keen kettle Dec 21, 2018, 3:34 PM

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Whats the difference?

mental sleet Dec 21, 2018, 3:35 PM

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cinematic middlesfingers FPS

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in order for the highest graphical quality

keen kettle Dec 21, 2018, 3:44 PM

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hmm

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Ill try it out

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Okay, thats better

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Still running 60+ fps

copper geode Dec 21, 2018, 4:12 PM

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Don’t flex

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Not everyone has a nuclear power core fueled monster like you boy

topaz epoch Dec 21, 2018, 4:26 PM

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@pale prairie the Trike model we have right now is actually a somewhat recent remodel. The adult Trike actually looks quite accurate, but maybe the juvenile and subadults could stand to be tweaked, made a little thinner

pale prairie Dec 21, 2018, 4:45 PM

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as i said it might just be the skin

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doesn't look as good as ehh.. allo or para for example

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and i'm not saying it needs to

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i'm sure it's just the skin that makes it look so.. bad

barren zephyr Dec 21, 2018, 5:10 PM

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Allo and para models are super new so it's just that

vale flare Dec 21, 2018, 5:13 PM

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I want answers to our questions about the isle :(

blazing charm Dec 21, 2018, 5:29 PM

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@spiral sonnet Just gave it a read, I get where you are coming from but what you described is more of a playstyle than a unique mechanic.

spiral sonnet Dec 21, 2018, 5:34 PM

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Can't "leg trauma" effect and food hiding be considered as a mechanic?

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Maybe I get the word "mechanic" wrong...

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Ok. thx anyways

blazing charm Dec 21, 2018, 5:37 PM

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Well, that does count. But I think it's already planned.

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If you'd like, I'm currently giving it a go right now

pale prairie Dec 21, 2018, 5:41 PM

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@barren zephyr

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that's my point

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trike and diablo models are not up to current quality standards

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might just be the skin making them look that way though

quasi reef Dec 21, 2018, 5:54 PM

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ok need to ask why do we make sound if we're talking in group chat.... it makes it hard to give orders or follow orders if other dino's can hear us at a LOOONG distance i can hear someone talking in group chat say if they were at the mountain side where all plant food is and i was by the mountain before the water crossing....

lament thorn Dec 21, 2018, 5:58 PM

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Cause your dinos are 'talking' to each other

edgy echo Dec 21, 2018, 6:02 PM

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@quasi reef would you like to suggest that if you Dino’s are a certain distance away from each other it broadcasts instead of f calls lol

leaden night Dec 21, 2018, 6:11 PM

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Why would it need to be unlockable in Sandbox

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There's nothing to lose or care about in Sandbox

regal sapphire Dec 21, 2018, 6:38 PM

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@spiral sonnet there's an unfinished rauisuchus model https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/the-isle-dinosaur-game/images/a/a0/Raui.png/revision/latest?cb=20161231013350

arctic nexus Dec 21, 2018, 7:08 PM

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@thorny lynx try putting your render down to 50 - 70, then you can put the shadows up a bit.

spiral sonnet Dec 21, 2018, 7:16 PM

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I have seen Rauisuchus model. It looks strange imo.

nocturne blaze Dec 21, 2018, 7:23 PM

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It does look strange... the front limbs are so short

barren zephyr Dec 21, 2018, 7:48 PM

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@blazing charm do you have a link to all your doc suggestions?

blazing charm Dec 21, 2018, 7:48 PM

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Oh boy, all of them.

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Uhm. I can gather them up

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Though I won't bother with the spider one

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since that's uh

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A bit of a...stretch.

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@barren zephyr I'll make an index when I am finished this current one.

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???

nova shell Dec 21, 2018, 8:19 PM

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@edgy echo different patterns for the skin system are already being worked on actually

arctic nexus Dec 21, 2018, 8:27 PM

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@thorny lynx Its the little percentage, its on the other side of the graphics menu to all the other things like Shadows and Textures.

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Should say Render Scale the game will look worse but should run alot quicker

edgy echo Dec 21, 2018, 9:18 PM

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@nova shell ah I had no idea that’s awesome!

nova shell Dec 21, 2018, 10:16 PM

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there's no evidence for kapro having long kapro legs

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in fact it was probably much like any other crocodile aside from its huge tusks

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so uh, yeah that's a no for kapro

warm ridge Dec 21, 2018, 10:17 PM

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I feel like there's a more recent prehistoric crocodillian that fits the dog-like croc idea way better than kapro

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can't remember the name though

nova shell Dec 21, 2018, 10:20 PM

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🤷

hybrid breach Dec 21, 2018, 10:33 PM

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Oh! I remember a few!

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Hold on

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Postosuchus was it’s name

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Again similar dog build

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There are better pictures of it.

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Here’s one that’s hunting. Gotta love dog gators.

nova shell Dec 21, 2018, 10:37 PM

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yeah i would not be opposed to seeing one of these bad boys in game

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hybrid breach Dec 21, 2018, 10:38 PM

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Their just very unique in my opinion, and I mean large reptile gator dogs. They’d look pretty epic in the game.

tulip smelt Dec 21, 2018, 10:41 PM

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I'd love to have four-legged carnivores in game like postosuchus tbh

nova shell Dec 21, 2018, 10:42 PM

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balance would be the only problemo

stoic wing Dec 21, 2018, 10:43 PM

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what new would it bring to the table?

nova shell Dec 21, 2018, 10:43 PM

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most other carnivores are both bigger and faster than you

stoic wing Dec 21, 2018, 10:43 PM

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"its just a four legged utah"

nova shell Dec 21, 2018, 10:44 PM

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more of a manlet four legged cerato

stoic wing Dec 21, 2018, 10:44 PM

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more like your mom

nova shell Dec 21, 2018, 10:44 PM

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no u

stoic wing Dec 21, 2018, 10:44 PM

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shut

nova shell Dec 21, 2018, 10:44 PM

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i know u are but what am i

stoic wing Dec 21, 2018, 10:44 PM

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gay

nova shell Dec 21, 2018, 10:44 PM

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i know u are but what am i

stoic wing Dec 21, 2018, 10:45 PM

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a Utah main?

nova shell Dec 21, 2018, 10:45 PM

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i know u are but what am i

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hey

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this is familiar

stoic wing Dec 21, 2018, 10:45 PM

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nah you think?

onyx stump Dec 21, 2018, 10:47 PM

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One, I think we are going to see some quadrupedal archosaurs in the game. Tow, I've seen kaprosuchus suggested before and I put it at a 1/4 chance of seeing it in the game. Three, it makes me sad to see people call things by other animal names.

stoic wing Dec 21, 2018, 10:48 PM

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I was just poking fun

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people bombarded me with the same thing

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"This dinosaur is just that dinosaur but this or that"

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its overused

onyx stump Dec 21, 2018, 10:48 PM

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not* u

stoic wing Dec 21, 2018, 10:49 PM

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: (

onyx stump Dec 21, 2018, 10:49 PM

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lol

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I'm talking about "Like the awesome kaprosuchus, or the dog like alligators" and "Gotta love dog gators".

stoic wing Dec 21, 2018, 10:51 PM

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who does that

onyx stump Dec 21, 2018, 10:53 PM

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It's a crocodile that can run. It ain't going to play fetch with you.

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It just gets under my skin.

hybrid breach Dec 21, 2018, 11:05 PM

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Well kill the fun why don’t you, jeez. How about you read up on them first before criticizing?

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Besides it’s a suggestion, not official.

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It’s meant to be handing out ideas and sharing ideas not to just put it down so immediately. You seem to just be rude.

nova shell Dec 21, 2018, 11:13 PM

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it's not being rude, it's being sensible

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it's absolutely fine to think that this wouldn't add anything to gameplay

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things like these have been suggested plenty of times before, including what is essentially this exact suggestion

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there's a reason they aren't in game, that being, they're more trouble than they're worth

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it seems like you're offended that someone doesn't like your idea, and in that case, you may as well just avoid making suggestions, because someone will always dislike your ideas

cloud plover Dec 21, 2018, 11:29 PM

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dondiFrown

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unborn quail Dec 21, 2018, 11:30 PM

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bWhat

nova shell Dec 21, 2018, 11:33 PM

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GWqlabsYaoLUL

cloud plover Dec 21, 2018, 11:33 PM

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Makes suggestion
Adds to the good emotes of his own suggestion
Doesn’t add more to the bad emote
Tries to make it look like more people agree with his own suggestion

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It doesn’t matter if it’s a good suggestion or not, Still a move that irks me

nova shell Dec 21, 2018, 11:34 PM

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GWqlabsMingLUL

sweet oasis Dec 21, 2018, 11:35 PM

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This doesn't seem like we're actually discussing any suggestions that were made.

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I'm gonna ask that y'all move on.

true burrow Dec 22, 2018, 12:21 AM

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as much as i'd love to see somethin like that, it's still important to consider how it'd function in the game and if it'd be balanced and fun to play.

oblique dust Dec 22, 2018, 12:50 AM

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regarding nonsensical dinosaur requests -

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I mentioned this before, but we all know shant is pure cancer because it's suppose to be the "spino" of herbivores, yet it just outruns everything, right?

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ex: the shantpocalypse back in old v3 days. They just outran all of the apex carnivores they came across, and killed them off.

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so, why not just replace shant's designated role with camara?

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you kill 2 birds with one stone - you make a balanced super-herbivore that can't outrun anything, while pleasing the people who still want some kind of playable sauropod in survival.

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IDK maybe I'll make an article about it in the suggestions section.

mental sleet Dec 22, 2018, 3:00 AM

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@barren zephyr giga does not need a buff

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adding new survival dinos without mechanics is irrelevant

barren zephyr Dec 22, 2018, 3:01 AM

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defeats the purpose of survival

mental sleet Dec 22, 2018, 3:01 AM

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That balance one is acceptable.

barren zephyr Dec 22, 2018, 3:03 AM

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first time ive heard someone actually say that giga doesnt need a buff 😮

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so many people i meet ingame always say that giga needs a buff, tho the recent stam buff did help giga players alot

mental sleet Dec 22, 2018, 3:04 AM

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It got buffed last patch.

barren zephyr Dec 22, 2018, 3:04 AM

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hmm actually yeah gigas probs dont need a major buff lol

mental sleet Dec 22, 2018, 3:04 AM

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a preety big one at that.

barren zephyr Dec 22, 2018, 3:04 AM

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stam and what else? i dont play giga much

mental sleet Dec 22, 2018, 3:04 AM

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only stam.

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but it was considerable.

barren zephyr Dec 22, 2018, 3:05 AM

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i think its 3min now, yeah it can now run away 😂

wraith trout Dec 22, 2018, 3:06 AM

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Okay

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Listing humans as an unimportant feature is a big mistake

barren zephyr Dec 22, 2018, 3:08 AM

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i didnt say unimportant, but this is a dinosaur game :p

wraith trout Dec 22, 2018, 3:08 AM

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Humans are set to be a core feature of the game

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But

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I do agree with most of what you were saying

barren zephyr Dec 22, 2018, 3:08 AM

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humans would b fucking sick in the isle, i love the idea

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but fixing the dinosaurs first would b cool

mental sleet Dec 22, 2018, 3:09 AM

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Agreed with the above

wraith trout Dec 22, 2018, 3:10 AM

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I think more of the focus should be put into humans than anything else right now, because once they are added a lot will change and will need to be refined from there. Fixing dinos is a close second for me, but again, just my opinion

neat quartz Dec 22, 2018, 3:10 AM

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I don't think you can really fix the dinosaurs until humans are added? They'll probably have to change again?

wraith trout Dec 22, 2018, 3:10 AM

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^

mental sleet Dec 22, 2018, 3:10 AM

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You can set dinosaurs to 90% without humans.

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so that is what you should begin by doing.

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splitting work between dinosaurs and humans is a big no no

wraith trout Dec 22, 2018, 3:11 AM

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that's also a fair point

neat quartz Dec 22, 2018, 3:11 AM

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Not necessarily, some problems are only worked out through play testing

mental sleet Dec 22, 2018, 3:11 AM

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If you can get the dinosaurs finished beforehand, you can then add humans and focus your attention entirely on them without dinos getting in the way.

barren zephyr Dec 22, 2018, 3:11 AM

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i mean there r quite a few bugs that have to do with dinosaurs when ingame, i can understand why theyd focus on working on the humans and such, but i feel like itll b quite awhile before they actually release humans

wraith trout Dec 22, 2018, 3:11 AM

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but I think the biggest problems will come from human/dino interactions, and will need working out after humans are added

barren zephyr Dec 22, 2018, 3:12 AM

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yeah lots of work would need to b done with dinos and human interactions o-o

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which can be tweaked

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instead of a dino buff/nerf

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that messes up everything else

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or a human buff/nerf

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that effects everything

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tbh if we could talk about the now, atm this is a dinosaur game, and i cant really see why humans would b on the top of the 'to do' list

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idk anything about the lore and all that, i just got this game cus dinosaurs lol

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this is a survival game first

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which humans are just as important as the dinos

mental sleet Dec 22, 2018, 3:15 AM

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you need a base to build a house.

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try to build the walls without a solid foundation and the house falls.

barren zephyr Dec 22, 2018, 3:16 AM

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you need one david to make multis

wraith trout Dec 22, 2018, 3:16 AM

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Try polishing the floor before putting the walls up though

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you just need to go back over it once you are done

barren zephyr Dec 22, 2018, 3:16 AM

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try adding walls with no supports?

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is what u mean

neat quartz Dec 22, 2018, 3:17 AM

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None of us can build a house, but we can tell you how to make one.

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Lol

mental sleet Dec 22, 2018, 3:18 AM

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Arguable

wraith trout Dec 22, 2018, 3:18 AM

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~~I mean I have a builders white card so...~~

oblique dust Dec 22, 2018, 3:18 AM

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I'd rather have AI and actual game features over new dinos, just sayin'

mental sleet Dec 22, 2018, 3:18 AM

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People who make Ai and actual game features do not do new dinosaurs.

neat quartz Dec 22, 2018, 3:18 AM

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You are the exception Jewbacca!!

barren zephyr Dec 22, 2018, 3:18 AM

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i just dont see humans that important in this game atm, maybe in the future hell yeah but rn this is such a dinosaur focused game

oblique dust Dec 22, 2018, 3:19 AM

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it's only dino-focused right now because dinosaurs take longer to develop.

regal sapphire Dec 22, 2018, 3:19 AM

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That was the worst suggestion I’ve read in a while

mental sleet Dec 22, 2018, 3:19 AM

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Well yeah nobody has done a dinosaur game like this before.

regal sapphire Dec 22, 2018, 3:19 AM

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And I’ve seen some bad ones in my time

mental sleet Dec 22, 2018, 3:19 AM

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You can't just take from the blueprint and expand.

barren zephyr Dec 22, 2018, 3:19 AM

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ive had friends and heard of people quitting the game, because of the unfixed bugs/glitches lol

oblique dust Dec 22, 2018, 3:20 AM

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humans are coming later because humans will be SIGNIFICANTLY EASIER to develop.

jovial arch Dec 22, 2018, 3:20 AM

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Tbh

wraith trout Dec 22, 2018, 3:20 AM

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Honestly I dont think it was a bad suggestion, I think it was pretty damn blunt and to the point

jovial arch Dec 22, 2018, 3:20 AM

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It’s shocking the isle has as many players as it does

barren zephyr Dec 22, 2018, 3:20 AM

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so why not focus on fixing the easy bugs? skin bugs, getting stuck thru maps etc

regal sapphire Dec 22, 2018, 3:21 AM

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@wraith trout no it was terrible

oblique dust Dec 22, 2018, 3:21 AM

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when it comes to the dinosaurs, everything is made from scratch. you can't just go to the unreal marketplace and buy AAA-quality default dino models and animations.

regal sapphire Dec 22, 2018, 3:21 AM

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Stop giving undue credit

barren zephyr Dec 22, 2018, 3:21 AM

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xd

wraith trout Dec 22, 2018, 3:21 AM

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What was terrible about it?

jovial arch Dec 22, 2018, 3:21 AM

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Uh

regal sapphire Dec 22, 2018, 3:21 AM

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Not a single damn thing was specific

jovial arch Dec 22, 2018, 3:21 AM

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Buff Giga, asks for skins

barren zephyr Dec 22, 2018, 3:21 AM

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i was giving my honest opinion and suggestion

regal sapphire Dec 22, 2018, 3:21 AM

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“Buff and nerf certain dinosaurs”

jovial arch Dec 22, 2018, 3:21 AM

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gasp

regal sapphire Dec 22, 2018, 3:21 AM

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Buff hypo and nerf everything else

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Make taco buff stronger than magna

barren zephyr Dec 22, 2018, 3:22 AM

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hell yeah dude

wraith trout Dec 22, 2018, 3:22 AM

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Oh

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I forgot the buff giga part

regal sapphire Dec 22, 2018, 3:22 AM

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Buff giga

wraith trout Dec 22, 2018, 3:22 AM

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screw that

jovial arch Dec 22, 2018, 3:22 AM

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Lol

oblique dust Dec 22, 2018, 3:22 AM

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giga doesn't need any buffs at all.

barren zephyr Dec 22, 2018, 3:22 AM

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nah i understand why u shouldnt buff giga now, changeed my mind lul

regal sapphire Dec 22, 2018, 3:22 AM

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Giga is literally in no need of a buff it can outrun almost anything with its ambush

barren zephyr Dec 22, 2018, 3:22 AM

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i mean most of the time giga players r running away instead of fighting

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because they know they will get fked

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exactly

jovial arch Dec 22, 2018, 3:23 AM

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Also fixing the rest of that stuff is pretty time consuming

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The post is pretty much asking for stuff that would take months to be done to be out ASAP

regal sapphire Dec 22, 2018, 3:23 AM

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“Add new survival Dinos!” You mean like the ones already in development?

jovial arch Dec 22, 2018, 3:23 AM

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Which is what the devs are already doing

barren zephyr Dec 22, 2018, 3:23 AM

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all my suggestions were mainly from personal experience, friends, and other peoples own opinion on the game

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non survivals

jovial arch Dec 22, 2018, 3:23 AM

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It’s pretty much a “hey you guys aren’t working fast enough go faster”

barren zephyr Dec 22, 2018, 3:24 AM

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nah i dont wanna b like that

regal sapphire Dec 22, 2018, 3:24 AM

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“Actually listen to community’s feedback and suggestions” #524692710297305089 and look in pins

barren zephyr Dec 22, 2018, 3:24 AM

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just saying focus on things that are more important

regal sapphire Dec 22, 2018, 3:24 AM

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Pins in suggestions

barren zephyr Dec 22, 2018, 3:24 AM

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i have

wraith trout Dec 22, 2018, 3:24 AM

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I say the fundamental part of the suggestion, being about shifting the devs focus onto things that the game needs now rather than hypos and killer plants etc was agreeable

jovial arch Dec 22, 2018, 3:25 AM

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Yes

oblique dust Dec 22, 2018, 3:25 AM

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yeah, that is actually agreeable.

barren zephyr Dec 22, 2018, 3:25 AM

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yeah alot of people were talking about that

jovial arch Dec 22, 2018, 3:25 AM

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I just disagree with what needs the focus

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Strongly

barren zephyr Dec 22, 2018, 3:25 AM

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focusing on other things besides the dinosaurs?

regal sapphire Dec 22, 2018, 3:26 AM

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“Devs are ignorant and don’t listen to community lol”
“Im sure theres more i could add but i cbb, anyways i love this game alot and only want to see it improve! ❤ i appreciate all the hard work and time you developers put into this game, its absolutely amazing.”

barren zephyr Dec 22, 2018, 3:26 AM

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maybe i should have worded that differnetly lmfao

jovial arch Dec 22, 2018, 3:26 AM

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I think balance needs focus

wraith trout Dec 22, 2018, 3:26 AM

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Focusing on more than buffs and nerfs would be nice too

jovial arch Dec 22, 2018, 3:26 AM

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We don’t have a working ecosystem

barren zephyr Dec 22, 2018, 3:26 AM

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mate im not trying to start shit lol

wraith trout Dec 22, 2018, 3:26 AM

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Which is something that is happening now

barren zephyr Dec 22, 2018, 3:26 AM

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gave my hoenst opinion dont wanna get shit on just because of it

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lmfao

oblique dust Dec 22, 2018, 3:27 AM

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it's fine, we've just hear this kind of feedback all the time.

jovial arch Dec 22, 2018, 3:27 AM

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You’re right actually

regal sapphire Dec 22, 2018, 3:27 AM

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I mean if you wanna leave feedback you could not be hostile in your first 2 sentences of the suggestion

barren zephyr Dec 22, 2018, 3:27 AM

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wait anyways, shifting focus as in fixing the bugs that r ingame atm

jovial arch Dec 22, 2018, 3:27 AM

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Dumb is bad, I switched my thing to a downvote

regal sapphire Dec 22, 2018, 3:27 AM

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Maybe they’d actually listen

barren zephyr Dec 22, 2018, 3:27 AM

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its the harsh truth sadly

jovial arch Dec 22, 2018, 3:27 AM

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The devs have been optimizing

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Literally every patch

barren zephyr Dec 22, 2018, 3:27 AM

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as soon as i started playing this game i was washed over with negative stories

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it was upsetting

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tho i still love this game

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and have high hopes for it

oblique dust Dec 22, 2018, 3:28 AM

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we're (hopefully) getting a brand new map soon, so chances are we'll start seeing some new bugs in the new map.

wraith trout Dec 22, 2018, 3:28 AM

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Some big things need to change, because I love this game, I've been following it for years and all that jazz, but I dont even have 100 hours yet because its just not something I play

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and that makes me a little sad

barren zephyr Dec 22, 2018, 3:29 AM

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recent updates have been aesthetically pleasing i can say that

oblique dust Dec 22, 2018, 3:29 AM

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If I had to give an honest opinion, I think the devs put way too much time into new maps, only to be scrapped again.

jovial arch Dec 22, 2018, 3:30 AM

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Honestly

barren zephyr Dec 22, 2018, 3:30 AM

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the whole giving non survivals sniff, and nesting, other dinosaur interactions is really nice

jovial arch Dec 22, 2018, 3:30 AM

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I’d have to agree

barren zephyr Dec 22, 2018, 3:30 AM

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i agree

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but they can do what they want

jovial arch Dec 22, 2018, 3:30 AM

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The focus should be balance though

oblique dust Dec 22, 2018, 3:30 AM

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like, what happened to AE01 or whatever it was called? And then v4? why make such huge maps and continue doing so if you don't even have running AI to sustain a playerbase?

barren zephyr Dec 22, 2018, 3:30 AM

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i think 1 of my friends put a suggestion before, and got alot of harsh feedback, i was expecting the same but u guys r chill

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thanks for being open minded

jovial arch Dec 22, 2018, 3:30 AM

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Like, new Dinos are a big no

barren zephyr Dec 22, 2018, 3:31 AM

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ive kind of changed my thought aswell

jovial arch Dec 22, 2018, 3:31 AM

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Kimchi honestly

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You just posted at the right time

barren zephyr Dec 22, 2018, 3:31 AM

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lmfao

wraith trout Dec 22, 2018, 3:31 AM

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I came here because I knew it would be a flame war and I wanted to prevent that

jovial arch Dec 22, 2018, 3:31 AM

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I’ve been ripped a new one several times in this channel

wraith trout Dec 22, 2018, 3:31 AM

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^ same

barren zephyr Dec 22, 2018, 3:32 AM

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i mean if people wanna get toxic it just shows the community is toxic aswell 😦 but im glad there r actually some chill people here

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yikes

wintry cipher Dec 22, 2018, 3:32 AM

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@barren zephyr sadly, with this community, you have to accept the fact theres people who will call you an idiot just for opening your mouth here. (commenting on a thing earlier) as for the suggestion....i feel like that was a lot of venting and not overly constructive criticism. you guys have been talking about that here though -so im only stating the obvious.

jovial arch Dec 22, 2018, 3:33 AM

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^

barren zephyr Dec 22, 2018, 3:33 AM

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thank you! will keep that in mind next time i put out a suggestion lol my bad o-o" i think just hearing alot of my friends complaints about the game just blurted out

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that was defs my fault

wintry cipher Dec 22, 2018, 3:34 AM

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yeah. imo, might be best just to remove that suggestion and restructure it to have an actual focus

wraith trout Dec 22, 2018, 3:34 AM

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^

wintry cipher Dec 22, 2018, 3:34 AM

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ie: the one meaty bit that could work would likely be the focus on the hypos

barren zephyr Dec 22, 2018, 3:34 AM

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will do 👍 havent slept for 2 days so that also fucked me up aswell

wintry cipher Dec 22, 2018, 3:34 AM

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but, the thing is...modelers and programmers are diff employees.

jovial arch Dec 22, 2018, 3:34 AM

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👀

wintry cipher Dec 22, 2018, 3:34 AM

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so they dont overlap

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much that is

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so, they might not have much else to do BUT model hypos. maybe they have a lot of other assets done or their waiting for copyright allowance on something. who knows

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maybe hypos will have a way to be out soon ( doubt it) but might explain their priority

warm ridge Dec 22, 2018, 3:36 AM

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Some people have the misconception that once the developers are making something, it becomes the development focus yeah

wintry cipher Dec 22, 2018, 3:36 AM

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Been around the isle for almost.....2 years? a little over a year? they bounce between subjects and foci like crazy

warm ridge Dec 22, 2018, 3:36 AM

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Yes

wintry cipher Dec 22, 2018, 3:36 AM

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dont blame them either. as an artist i get sick of doing the same thing day in and day out

wraith trout Dec 22, 2018, 3:36 AM

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And this is why Im so glad we extinguished the flame war before it happened. because I've overlooked that so many times

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and im sure many other people just dont realize that they are different jobs; modelling, animating and programing

warm ridge Dec 22, 2018, 3:37 AM

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^^

barren zephyr Dec 22, 2018, 3:37 AM

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did not know that, @wintry cipher thanks for filling me in on that info

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i might go reconstruct my suggestion abit so its less messy lol and more understandable from my pov

wintry cipher Dec 22, 2018, 3:38 AM

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@wraith trout thankfully i picked up on that not too long after i joined because i used to do animating with a team in high school. some stuff is useful damnit XD

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maybe ask us here kimchi

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we could prob give a rough answer. might not be the right one but

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just a more focused view than a smaller population

jovial arch Dec 22, 2018, 3:39 AM

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Tbh

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If you want to do well in suggestions

barren zephyr Dec 22, 2018, 3:39 AM

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will do 👍

jovial arch Dec 22, 2018, 3:39 AM

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Pick which arguments you fight very carefully

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I don’t really care

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I just post and argue with people

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But my stuff rarely gets over ten likes

wintry cipher Dec 22, 2018, 3:41 AM

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70% of my suggestions get ignored or whacked. other 30% are usually born of the community mindset and do well because of it (like the giga and rex nerf/balance)

barren zephyr Dec 22, 2018, 3:41 AM

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tbh at first i had no real suggestion but recently, alot of players have been upset with the isle all mainly focused on devs working on things that arent a major thing? but they r probably like me and did not know the things u guys had mentioned earlier

warm ridge Dec 22, 2018, 3:41 AM

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Yep

wintry cipher Dec 22, 2018, 3:41 AM

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I'd assume that. Ignorance and miscommunication is a huge problem in a lot of places

jovial arch Dec 22, 2018, 3:42 AM

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Most people do t read

oblique dust Dec 22, 2018, 3:42 AM

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well, they're currently being worked on, but a lot of it just won't come with the christmas patch, such as the addition of pachy, sucho, skin customization and etc.

jovial arch Dec 22, 2018, 3:42 AM

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They just downvote or upvote

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Even I do it sometimes

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I try to be good about it

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But

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It’s hard

warm ridge Dec 22, 2018, 3:42 AM

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Most of the trash talk i see over the isle starts with misconceptions

wintry cipher Dec 22, 2018, 3:42 AM

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like how my tribal/affinity dino suggestion got mixed reviews. and i can see why -i didnt have time to fully flesh it out, but i got the idea out there enough to make some sense

warm ridge Dec 22, 2018, 3:43 AM

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Usually from outsiders

barren zephyr Dec 22, 2018, 3:43 AM

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some suggestions i can understand why it can b downvoted, i see ALOT of dinosaur suggestions being slammed

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and i can udnerstand why my suggestion was not appreciated

wintry cipher Dec 22, 2018, 3:43 AM

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a lot of dino suggestions get slammed not because they dont like the dino

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but because of the time it takes

oblique dust Dec 22, 2018, 3:43 AM

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and the money

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and the fact that said mentioned dinosaurs may not offer anything interesting from a gameplay perspective.

wintry cipher Dec 22, 2018, 3:43 AM

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once the game is done and dev kit is out and better than ever ill bet n one will ask for dev made dinos. theyll ask modders.

jovial arch Dec 22, 2018, 3:44 AM

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Dino suggestions are almost never well thought out

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It’s the simple truth

oblique dust Dec 22, 2018, 3:44 AM

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it is.

jovial arch Dec 22, 2018, 3:44 AM

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Mine are okay

oblique dust Dec 22, 2018, 3:44 AM

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most just recommend a pointless dinosaur because it's their favorite and simple as that.

jovial arch Dec 22, 2018, 3:44 AM

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I’d say I did a better job with my austro than Bary

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But

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🤷

wintry cipher Dec 22, 2018, 3:46 AM

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one of the few lucky suckers who has their fav dino in game and its para

still temple Dec 22, 2018, 4:15 AM

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Kapro dondiSquint

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"dog like alligators" dondiGross

edgy echo Dec 22, 2018, 5:15 AM

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@still temple well ive heard a paleontologist refer to Araripesuchus as coyote like so its not completely insane that they compared it to dogs

still temple Dec 22, 2018, 5:26 AM

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but comparing posto and kapro to dogs is @edgy echo

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p sure dogs arent bipedal (in posto's case)

edgy echo Dec 22, 2018, 5:27 AM

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@still temple not saying they r right just saying I’m not surprised

violet magnet Dec 22, 2018, 11:37 AM

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@warped harbor not sure if sarcasm because sarcasm don't carry through text very well

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but for those of us without mics who rely on group chat to plan hunts, removing the forced f-call would be GREAT

warped harbor Dec 22, 2018, 11:38 AM

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It's a legit suggestion

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The forced F call is unnecessary

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Everybody either makes a steam group or talks through discord, and it's an additional step that could just not be there

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By making the in-game chat actually usable

barren zephyr Dec 22, 2018, 11:46 AM

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Or they use voicechat

jovial arch Dec 22, 2018, 12:06 PM

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I use in game chat

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But like

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I agree that it’s pretty dumb that you make so much noise

arctic nexus Dec 22, 2018, 12:09 PM

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Well when your in a big herd, it can make it all a little more dynamic. Scenic almost.

jovial arch Dec 22, 2018, 12:10 PM

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Yes

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But people in discord have an overwhelming advantage

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Which is dumb af

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If you’re playing the game as intended you shouldn’t be punished

arctic nexus Dec 22, 2018, 12:11 PM

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Well perhaps you should start using it as well. That is if you think it's such a good advantage.

jovial arch Dec 22, 2018, 12:11 PM

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I can’t chat with new spawns that I nest in because everything in the area will hear me

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Like

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It’s dumb

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And I do discord with people

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I still think it’s dumb

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I like how realistic making noise while chatting is

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But

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It punishes people for playing the game regularly

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Which is not good tbh

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You know

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I think maybe reworking it would be better than just dropping it

arctic nexus Dec 22, 2018, 12:23 PM

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I play Ceratosaurus alot. So i do see your point. Loud.

mental sleet Dec 22, 2018, 12:33 PM

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@warped harbor that is bollocks, what isn't used is the Local chat since people are always in groups.

jovial arch Dec 22, 2018, 12:37 PM

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If I’m playing with people I know I discoed every tine

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And it gives me an overwhelming advantage

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Which I think is unfair

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🤷

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@mental sleet

mental sleet Dec 22, 2018, 12:38 PM

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It is unavoidable.

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It is better to accept this will be the case, any time.

jovial arch Dec 22, 2018, 12:38 PM

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Why accept it

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I’m sure we can fix it

mental sleet Dec 22, 2018, 12:39 PM

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Because there will never be a better way of communicating than discord

jovial arch Dec 22, 2018, 12:39 PM

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I believe

mental sleet Dec 22, 2018, 12:40 PM

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I don't, the only way to fix it would be to something stop discord from being used, which won't happen.

jovial arch Dec 22, 2018, 12:40 PM

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༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ

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I think it’s fixable

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Kind of like fliers are fixable

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Except lower priority

mental sleet Dec 22, 2018, 12:41 PM

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Then please, how would you fix it ?

jovial arch Dec 22, 2018, 12:41 PM

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Affinity

mental sleet Dec 22, 2018, 12:41 PM

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dondiSquint

jovial arch Dec 22, 2018, 12:41 PM

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Different chatting systems

mental sleet Dec 22, 2018, 12:41 PM

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That last one won't help

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and why the hell do people try to fit everything onto affinity.

jovial arch Dec 22, 2018, 12:42 PM

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I need time to actually put together something workable

mental sleet Dec 22, 2018, 12:43 PM

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go for it, this is an actual problem.

tepid light Dec 22, 2018, 12:58 PM

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I'd be down with having the f call turned off just on the group chat, so every initial encounter you have you still make noise but isnt forced to constantly reveal position while on local

still temple Dec 22, 2018, 1:48 PM

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why tie chat with affinity tho

jovial arch Dec 22, 2018, 1:48 PM

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uh

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why not

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reward people for not abusing it

mental sleet Dec 22, 2018, 1:48 PM

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because you are making affinity the end all be all

jovial arch Dec 22, 2018, 1:48 PM

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punish people for abusing it

still temple Dec 22, 2018, 1:48 PM

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affinity wont fix everything

jovial arch Dec 22, 2018, 1:48 PM

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it's pretty straightforward

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a little heavy handed

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and yes

still temple Dec 22, 2018, 1:49 PM

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chat is one of those things that affinity wont fix

jovial arch Dec 22, 2018, 1:49 PM

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it won't fix everything

still temple Dec 22, 2018, 1:49 PM

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just disable the forced f call during chat

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or make it rly low volume

jovial arch Dec 22, 2018, 1:50 PM

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huh

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too complex then?

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fair enough

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I'll leave it up, maybe someone else will have a good idea

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tbh, I'm not really sure how you would fix chat without affinity

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I'm down for something else

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100%

mental sleet Dec 22, 2018, 1:52 PM

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I think you just can't, it isn't the game's fault this situation came to be.

verbal acorn Dec 22, 2018, 3:13 PM

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Just make all grouped dinos vocalize periodically while in close proximity. The volume and range of the vocalization need not be high, only loud enough to be heard amongst the group at short range. It’s the only unexploitable, but realistic and reasonable demonstration of group vocals.

The only way and reason to not have vocals is if you are actively ambushing(crouched), solo or far removed from your group mates.

nova shell Dec 22, 2018, 3:30 PM

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if you're not communicating then you shouldnt randomly call

limpid dove Dec 22, 2018, 4:27 PM

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@honest rock I like the idea. maybe instead of the background graphics, we can instead have q silhouette of a pack or herd depending on species, and a nest with eggs when someone wants to invite you.

then again, we should be reading more carefully. I usually skim it and check to seebm before accepting or declining, or go off their icon since 99% of the time it's my friend or packmate inviting me to a nest or group

honest rock Dec 22, 2018, 4:31 PM

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@limpid dove yeah thats true! I often get invites from people I played Ingame so I accept them and then I see oh its a nest invite. But yes thats a good Idea from you too!

nova shell Dec 22, 2018, 4:44 PM

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all you have to do is read

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the problem with this suggestion is the sheer pointlessness of it

icy venture Dec 22, 2018, 5:04 PM

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^

verbal acorn Dec 22, 2018, 5:17 PM

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@nova shell We shouldn’t be cheating the system with voice comms either. The thing is, group banter is realistic and immersive. There would be a whole series of social calls that would and should be expected within a social group...location calls, hierarchy interactions, alert calls, etc.

The fact that we are actively communicating meta-ly implies there should be communication/calls between our dinos. Perpetually stealthy groups/packs is ludicrous.

nova shell Dec 22, 2018, 5:18 PM

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group banter would be annoying

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your dino would randomly make noise and you would be thinking "how can i stop this, i dont want to talk"

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and dinosaurs wouldn't be 'bantering' anyways, they can't talk at all

still temple Dec 22, 2018, 5:20 PM

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but players can

nova shell Dec 22, 2018, 5:20 PM

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o k

verbal acorn Dec 22, 2018, 5:21 PM

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@nova shell So you envision dino social groups as mute and silent?

nova shell Dec 22, 2018, 5:21 PM

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course not

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but they would never communicate when unnecessary

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there's no need for them to make any sound unless they purposefully click one of the number keys or type in chat

leaden night Dec 22, 2018, 5:23 PM

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Triceratops' walk turn is better than its alt-turn

verbal acorn Dec 22, 2018, 5:23 PM

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A whole slew of social interactions is the necessity. I can tell you that every pack of dinosaurs I’ve ever seen banter and interact continuously

nova shell Dec 22, 2018, 5:23 PM

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@regal sapphire a utah main I see

regal sapphire Dec 22, 2018, 5:23 PM

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What?

nova shell Dec 22, 2018, 5:24 PM

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@verbal acorn they banter and interact continuously currently?

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ah

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so no need for the mechanic you propose

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since they already do it

regal sapphire Dec 22, 2018, 5:24 PM

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How does that make me a Utah main

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It’s common sense

nova shell Dec 22, 2018, 5:24 PM

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because utahs are renowned for assriding

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utahs are the apex predator of servers without alt turn

verbal acorn Dec 22, 2018, 5:25 PM

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@nova shell I’m speaking of real life dinos, in the real world...but with voice comms, this reality isn’t presented in game. The game has the feature...but voice comms allows us to unrealistically by-pass it

regal sapphire Dec 22, 2018, 5:25 PM

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Fine m8 I’ll write a better suggestion rn give me 10 minutes

nova shell Dec 22, 2018, 5:26 PM

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so you see real life dinosaurs bantering and interacting continuously

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i get that it would fix the problem

verbal acorn Dec 22, 2018, 5:26 PM

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As long as voice comms are an option there is a need to have dinos in groups and within close proximity to those in the group to have short-range banter

nova shell Dec 22, 2018, 5:26 PM

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it would just be too detrimental to people who dont abuse voice comms

verbal acorn Dec 22, 2018, 5:27 PM

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It would make all players either using voice comms or not, equally affected while grouped and in close proximity to group mates

nova shell Dec 22, 2018, 5:28 PM

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say two players in a group are not talking

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they would still make noise

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for no reason

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and needlessly draw attention to themselves

verbal acorn Dec 22, 2018, 5:29 PM

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Yup, if they are in close proximity, they would make periodic short range/low volume calls and growls.

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But if they are crouched, nothing

nova shell Dec 22, 2018, 5:29 PM

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and those calls would be noticeable correct?

verbal acorn Dec 22, 2018, 5:29 PM

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At close range, yes...unless crouched

nova shell Dec 22, 2018, 5:30 PM

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you seem to want to make it seem like it would be harmless to people who arent talking at all, while still fixing the problem of people using voice comms

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fact is you cant have both

verbal acorn Dec 22, 2018, 5:30 PM

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If you are grouped, but not close to a group mate, you make no vocalizations

nova shell Dec 22, 2018, 5:30 PM

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i understand that

verbal acorn Dec 22, 2018, 5:31 PM

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If you are crouched and assumed to be hunting, no vocalizations. If you are not grouped, no vocalizations unless chatting

nova shell Dec 22, 2018, 5:31 PM

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yes

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i

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i get that

verbal acorn Dec 22, 2018, 5:32 PM

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But group vocalizations would and should be the norm, not the exception

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It should be one of the trade-offs for the benefits and advantages of operating as a group...you become less stealthy

nova shell Dec 22, 2018, 5:33 PM

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the thing is that it would punish gruops sure

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but it would also punish pairs

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including mating pairs, which should absolutely not be punished

verbal acorn Dec 22, 2018, 5:34 PM

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Yes, but we can adjust frequency of vocals to group size

nova shell Dec 22, 2018, 5:34 PM

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couldnt groups just stay crouched for long periods at a time and be stealthy forever?

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and what if your group is running from something through the trees, trying to lose it

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but then you call because you're in a group

waxen elk Dec 22, 2018, 5:36 PM

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disable alt turn

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No.

verbal acorn Dec 22, 2018, 5:36 PM

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We can adjust proximity based on class. So herbivores would have a large proximity range to induce these calls and also adjust volume/call range accordingly

waxen elk Dec 22, 2018, 5:36 PM

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Because then you have Utahraptor killing everything in the isle easy

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Having alt turn off

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is not skill

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It's a death wish

regal sapphire Dec 22, 2018, 5:37 PM

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There

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wrote a better suggestion

nova shell Dec 22, 2018, 5:37 PM

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that does not help in either of the two situations i just said coco

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i dont think a combat stance would be best for anything

verbal acorn Dec 22, 2018, 5:39 PM

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@nova shell you could stay crouched indefinitely, but I suspect that would be unlikely in a large group. I’d also argue that crouching should have a small stamina drain also. A pack running away from a threat would definitely make noise...your pack would vocalize until out of proximity or members crouch.

nova shell Dec 22, 2018, 5:39 PM

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well that bones the pack

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@regal sapphire what would a combat stance battle even look like? instead of alt turn + lmb it would just be go into combat stance and lmb

verbal acorn Dec 22, 2018, 5:41 PM

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And keep in mind, I’m not saying this feature would have to force constant banter. It would be infrequently per dino, but a large group would have more frequent calls because they have more members who could call at any given time.

nova shell Dec 22, 2018, 5:41 PM

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understandable

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but

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but

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what if you're sitting in a bush

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something walks by

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you cant stand up then crouch cause that would give away your position

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but you call anyways because you just have to

verbal acorn Dec 22, 2018, 5:42 PM

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I’m fine with sitting have a significantly reduced rate of calls...or even none at all.

nova shell Dec 22, 2018, 5:43 PM

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groups sit most of the time though

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so it wouldnt work then

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and if they're trotting or running around the map you would hear their footsteps anyways

nova shell Dec 22, 2018, 7:19 PM

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You're missing the point dino

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people want to stop others from using discord and stuff to avoid making noise in game

barren zephyr Dec 22, 2018, 7:22 PM

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Oh

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Well shit

nova shell Dec 22, 2018, 7:23 PM

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🇫

barren zephyr Dec 22, 2018, 7:24 PM

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Well have a fricking in game voicechat

nova shell Dec 22, 2018, 7:25 PM

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that would be the massive-est cancer of all

barren zephyr Dec 22, 2018, 7:52 PM

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^

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there is no way to stop them from not using third parties

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and no one wants an in game vc

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and with the amount of people who still make noise on dev serves i dont see a problem

nova shell Dec 22, 2018, 8:27 PM

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^

viral creek Dec 22, 2018, 9:30 PM

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@fading shadow

As much as a dislike Isla Nycta, it's an extremely scummy move to remove another server just because it's completing with officials, especially to the people who spend money to keep the servers up and going, or donated. Also lots of people would get on the developer's asses, and I doubt they want to deal with that.

At least we have one full dev server.

unborn quail Dec 22, 2018, 9:31 PM

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If anything I could see non-official server being removed from Dev branch

viral creek Dec 22, 2018, 9:31 PM

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^

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From dev branch, but not from the game itself.

barren zephyr Dec 22, 2018, 10:57 PM

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@fading shadow i like ur suggestion here try expanding on it

jade schooner Dec 22, 2018, 11:54 PM

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I don’t see the point of erasing a server. Most of those people aren’t in game to test. Therefore they don’t hinder in any way to the development

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That server doesn’t steal players from dev servers mostly because the people in dev servers don’t like nycta to begin with, so.... yea

barren zephyr Dec 22, 2018, 11:56 PM

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dev branch servers are kinda for testing

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the whole point of it so to find bugs before putting it in the official servers

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granted if the server hasnt bee adjusted in anyway
settings / mods

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it is fine

verbal acorn Dec 23, 2018, 1:01 AM

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Haven is a better server anyway...

jovial arch Dec 23, 2018, 1:46 AM

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@midnight flicker Yes it would fix that problem but it would make ten more

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like

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you could see people inside bushes

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making stealth practically worthless

midnight flicker Dec 23, 2018, 1:48 AM

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in stealth mode the gamertags can disappear like when you sit down but standing normally shouldn't be an issue

jovial arch Dec 23, 2018, 1:48 AM

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when you spot someone

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you're standing normally

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9/10 times

barren zephyr Dec 23, 2018, 1:49 AM

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so what happens when its night

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and u wanna escape form a hunter

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but you cant

jovial arch Dec 23, 2018, 1:49 AM

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this feature was removed from even places like nycta

midnight flicker Dec 23, 2018, 1:49 AM

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yeah but gamertags only show when your close to them anyways

barren zephyr Dec 23, 2018, 1:49 AM

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cus you have a giant billboard over your head

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\

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dondiWeSmart

jovial arch Dec 23, 2018, 1:50 AM

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if you wanna report mix packers

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you could implement a server log

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or you could make it so you can see player ID if you click on them through a system or something

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something that needs to be done manually as opposed to automatically

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anything manual is considerably less abuseable

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or you could just have it so that you could organize player names by proximity

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ez

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then obviously the closest dude would be the mix packer

barren zephyr Dec 23, 2018, 1:52 AM

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or

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its a bad idea

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and kills the game

midnight flicker Dec 23, 2018, 1:53 AM

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but there needs to be a solution

barren zephyr Dec 23, 2018, 1:54 AM

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example

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are you on a official server?

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y/n answer please

jovial arch Dec 23, 2018, 1:55 AM

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The current system of reporting players is undeniably clunky, but your solution is simply not the fix

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also

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the current system isn't that bad

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it's just slow

barren zephyr Dec 23, 2018, 1:55 AM

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clunky?

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you pm a mod

jovial arch Dec 23, 2018, 1:55 AM

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yes

barren zephyr Dec 23, 2018, 1:55 AM

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and they ban them for a day

jovial arch Dec 23, 2018, 1:55 AM

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but then the mod needs to log on

barren zephyr Dec 23, 2018, 1:55 AM

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where is that clunky

jovial arch Dec 23, 2018, 1:55 AM

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and sometimes they don't make it

barren zephyr Dec 23, 2018, 1:55 AM

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true

jovial arch Dec 23, 2018, 1:55 AM

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like, it's pretty good, and the mods work hard

barren zephyr Dec 23, 2018, 1:55 AM

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not alot of them do alot

jovial arch Dec 23, 2018, 1:56 AM

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but it could be more streamlined

barren zephyr Dec 23, 2018, 1:57 AM

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well a chat in the discord wouldnt work

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by time u start typing they have all logged out

jovial arch Dec 23, 2018, 1:57 AM

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honestly, yeah

barren zephyr Dec 23, 2018, 1:57 AM

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cus most of these people will watch the disc

jovial arch Dec 23, 2018, 1:57 AM

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the solution isn't terribly easy

barren zephyr Dec 23, 2018, 1:58 AM

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there is none

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other than seeing if theres a mod on ur server

jovial arch Dec 23, 2018, 1:58 AM

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yeah, might as well just wait for affinity

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it won't fully fix the issue

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but it'll help

midnight flicker Dec 23, 2018, 1:59 AM

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i got banned for 72 hours not realising there was other dinos close by and the group i was in group of Utahs on a rock staying alive,Giga did run passed but again staying on rock to stay alive at no stage i was notified by the grop or in an chat we was mix packing, when seeing the photo provided there was another 2 dinos in the woods, now being at night there is no way i could see them dinos even with this shitty night vision, if not gamertags maybe a dinos tag is shown

jovial arch Dec 23, 2018, 1:59 AM

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on dev?

barren zephyr Dec 23, 2018, 1:59 AM

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if you didnt know they were there

jovial arch Dec 23, 2018, 1:59 AM

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dude

barren zephyr Dec 23, 2018, 1:59 AM

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1st

midnight flicker Dec 23, 2018, 1:59 AM

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Dev 1 this server

jovial arch Dec 23, 2018, 2:00 AM

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this is why I literally record all of my gameplay

barren zephyr Dec 23, 2018, 2:00 AM

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you werent close enough for name tags to pop up

midnight flicker Dec 23, 2018, 2:00 AM

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i record when i click on replay only one shows is the Deathmatches servers

jovial arch Dec 23, 2018, 2:00 AM

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if you've got windows

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just hit windows button +R

midnight flicker Dec 23, 2018, 2:01 AM

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not close so how then i was mix packing

barren zephyr Dec 23, 2018, 2:02 AM

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name tags dont pop up that far away

jovial arch Dec 23, 2018, 2:02 AM

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so you were in a group with mix packers and you didn't realize they were mix packing

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I mean

barren zephyr Dec 23, 2018, 2:02 AM

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you must be new to this game

jovial arch Dec 23, 2018, 2:02 AM

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to be fair that's happened to me before

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but like

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tough luck?

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I mean

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now you have all their names

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🤷

midnight flicker Dec 23, 2018, 2:03 AM

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i didn't know they didn't say they were in vc or in chat

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if i knew i would have run off

jovial arch Dec 23, 2018, 2:05 AM

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All I can say is

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video yourself

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cause

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no system would've gotten you out of that one

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short of video

midnight flicker Dec 23, 2018, 2:06 AM

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but they could have been waiting for us to come off the rock to kill

jovial arch Dec 23, 2018, 2:07 AM

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again, video

midnight flicker Dec 23, 2018, 2:07 AM

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all i know

jovial arch Dec 23, 2018, 2:07 AM

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video

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use the video

midnight flicker Dec 23, 2018, 2:09 AM

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but it doesn't record

jovial arch Dec 23, 2018, 2:10 AM

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not the ingame video

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you can get free recording software off the Microsoft store

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for xbox

midnight flicker Dec 23, 2018, 2:12 AM

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name of the softwhere?

pale prairie Dec 23, 2018, 2:14 AM

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just use obs @midnight flicker

midnight flicker Dec 23, 2018, 2:22 AM

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thank you

tulip smelt Dec 23, 2018, 3:14 AM

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@midnight flicker Some servers do have nametags enabled for this reason too-- today a dev server I was playing on had it to where when you were in a close proximity of another player, you could see their nametag regardless of whether you were in a group with them or not, but if you were far enough they wouldn't see your tag

pale prairie Dec 23, 2018, 3:18 AM

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only problem with that @tulip smelt is people can easily target the person that killed them

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also they were talking about the official dev servers

barren zephyr Dec 23, 2018, 3:21 AM

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you also cant hide

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or run away

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even at night

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its a survival game

tulip smelt Dec 23, 2018, 3:22 AM

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Yeah, I don't like the nametag feature, especially as an herbivore it easily gives you away

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And oh okay

barren zephyr Dec 23, 2018, 3:22 AM

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that greatly decreases chance at survival

tulip smelt Dec 23, 2018, 3:23 AM

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It does

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It sucked lmao

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It was a andbox server at least, but it still sucked.

barren zephyr Dec 23, 2018, 3:23 AM

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not goin off at u btw

tulip smelt Dec 23, 2018, 3:24 AM

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sandbox*

barren zephyr Dec 23, 2018, 3:24 AM

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just provin the point

tulip smelt Dec 23, 2018, 3:24 AM

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Ah yeah, I agree with u

midnight flicker Dec 23, 2018, 3:28 AM

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I wasn't discussing the issues with targeting, if you kill some one and they want to target you then don't be uninteligent enough to stay in the same area and move on, even then with no name they can be lucky enough to run into you and kill you, you take your chances

midnight flicker Dec 23, 2018, 3:49 AM

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yep its a survial game with Dev branch having rules, Public no rules so if i was on public i wouldn't care wouldn't say anything but i am on the Dev branch, people don't want there gamertag shown they can go back to the public branch, if we can help report the rule breakers and help the admins as much as we can the better i am for that, if you actually read my actual post from the beginning i am sure you know where i am coming from, i was wrongfully accused of mix packing. maybye not a players gamertag maybe the dinos tag comes up, that would help on the targeting front

barren zephyr Dec 23, 2018, 4:20 AM

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dondiThink

viral creek Dec 23, 2018, 4:45 AM

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Name tags on official are a terrible idea.

They give away your location to other players easily, and basically works as a player tracker when chasing somebody.

This will put ambush predators and animals that use jukes and confusion to get away from predators at a massive disadvantage.

Also, player targeting.

midnight flicker Dec 23, 2018, 4:56 AM

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whats your solution? how to know other dinos are around so you know not to mix pack? i was wrongfully banned yet i still had to sit out the 72 hours, by the way i do agree with what you said but i atually record ign but it doesn't actually record, i can do it another way but it doesn't show the players name so whats the point of reporting when they don't know who to punish

nocturne blaze Dec 23, 2018, 5:05 AM

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There isn't a solution, just gotta try to catch it when it happens. It's an awful idea to show nametags on official, that might fix mix packing issues but it with fuck up just about everything else. Everything about it is wrong.

midnight flicker Dec 23, 2018, 5:08 AM

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allow recording in game on dev servers be a start there is 1 solution

wintry cipher Dec 23, 2018, 5:27 AM

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the problem witht hat is you then re-allow why they turned it off to begin with

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people record, log off, then check the recording to find other people to kill

violet magnet Dec 23, 2018, 5:42 AM

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solve mixpacking by running off the dino that won't leave you alone

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if you're an adult allo and a juvie giga insists on hanging around you, kill it

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if you're a utah and an allo hangs around you, run away

wintry cipher Dec 23, 2018, 5:44 AM

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theres only a couple instances where sadly that wont work. ie: giga and utah, or rex and utah. but in that case, just log out and wait 15 mins. theyll get bored and leave.

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or report em lol

violet magnet Dec 23, 2018, 5:56 AM

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also PSA windows 10 has a built-in gamebar recorder that records up to 2 hours of gameplay

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Windows key+G, hit the record button, the first time you record it'll come up with a prompt to clarify that yes, this is a game

jovial arch Dec 23, 2018, 8:42 AM

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Wait

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recording is actually exploitable?

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How does recording, logging off, then checking it help find other people to kill?

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oh

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because you can see the entire map

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I see

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wait

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why not just keep it first person then?

tepid light Dec 23, 2018, 9:36 AM

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the free cam from recording allow for some nice screenshot

midnight flicker Dec 23, 2018, 10:00 AM

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i agree with @jovial arch keep it first person and you can see players near by gamertags

jovial arch Dec 23, 2018, 10:21 AM

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Maybe only allow free cam after a certain duration then

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Like

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12 hrs

violet magnet Dec 23, 2018, 10:24 AM

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the in-game recording shows players in your immediate area, so you could record, logout, look at the recording, find someone nearby, then log back in and go straight to them

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can't see players at swamp if you're at great lake

midnight flicker Dec 23, 2018, 10:40 AM

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no free cam at all, eliminates that issue

shrewd ice Dec 23, 2018, 10:45 AM

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i swear most of people see the night here what i see https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/473677503849037834/526127478024962048/unknown.png

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and here the sub with me what he can see https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/473677503849037834/526126452933001226/unknown.png

jovial arch Dec 23, 2018, 10:46 AM

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I mean, if free cam was delayed till 12 hours after the recording

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there would be no problems

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@violet magnet

dapper mirage Dec 23, 2018, 1:26 PM

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Damn reshaders.

pale prairie Dec 23, 2018, 2:37 PM

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@real whale while i do agree the crashes are bad and need to be fixed, crashes are to be expected on the games testing branch

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play main branch for less crashes dondiWeSmart

barren zephyr Dec 23, 2018, 3:02 PM

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^^^^^

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If your playin on development branch you are accepting all the flaws and issues with the game

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Thats how they fix them

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dondiUhh

nova shell Dec 23, 2018, 6:29 PM

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why do people assume creatures definitely will have the burrowing mechanic

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did a dev confirm it?

unborn quail Dec 23, 2018, 6:30 PM

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yes

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Dryo was confirmed to get it

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dunno about anything else

nova shell Dec 23, 2018, 6:32 PM

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dryo getting another ability

leaden night Dec 23, 2018, 6:33 PM

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GWragTbhfam

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I for one accept our Dryosaurus overlords

wintry cipher Dec 23, 2018, 6:34 PM

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dryo was confirmed to burrow?

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where was this said?

mint gull Dec 23, 2018, 6:37 PM

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Tried to copy link

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That copy's instead

still temple Dec 23, 2018, 6:37 PM

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https://www.twitch.tv/thedondi/clip/LuckyTenderDotterelBlargNaut?filter=clips&range=24hr&sort=time @wintry cipher

Twitch

TheDondi Playing The Isle - Twitch Clips

Dry will make burrows - Clipped by BagCat2112

▶ Play video

north vector Dec 23, 2018, 6:37 PM

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Psittaco has the burrowing ability already

nova shell Dec 23, 2018, 6:37 PM

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i saw it

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dang i havent been catching up on my dev streams

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that looks great

still temple Dec 23, 2018, 6:38 PM

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ye, cute little thing

nova shell Dec 23, 2018, 6:38 PM

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no i mean the map

still temple Dec 23, 2018, 6:38 PM

#

o

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dondiSucc

nova shell Dec 23, 2018, 6:38 PM

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dondiPathetic

north vector Dec 23, 2018, 6:39 PM

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dondiREE

nova shell Dec 23, 2018, 6:39 PM

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GWqlabsYaoLUL

leaden night Dec 23, 2018, 6:43 PM

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Dryo will be the god of survivability

wintry cipher Dec 23, 2018, 6:43 PM

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good lord XD that will be interesting to see

regal sapphire Dec 23, 2018, 7:40 PM

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@still temple your borrowing suggestion is actually pretty good

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my one issue though is you said kicking dirt as dryo might hinder attack from predators might allow you to escape

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When in reality since there's only one exit

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the predator can just sit at the entrance

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and fuck you over

leaden night Dec 23, 2018, 7:42 PM

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But is Dryo really worth camping the entrance

regal sapphire Dec 23, 2018, 7:42 PM

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If you're a herrera trying to get in

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yes

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It also kind of connects back to Jaffad's Herrera suggestion where herrera would basically be a ferret going around and slinking into borrows/dens

lament thorn Dec 23, 2018, 7:44 PM

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i think my only issue is that only 1 dryo can fit into a den

blazing charm Dec 23, 2018, 7:45 PM

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That seems fine to me, Dryo's are pretty big.

regal sapphire Dec 23, 2018, 7:45 PM

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^

lament thorn Dec 23, 2018, 7:45 PM

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i think at least 2 should be able to walk past each other in there

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especially if its a pair that have decided to nest

still temple Dec 23, 2018, 8:03 PM

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Only 1 Dryo can fit at a time in the main run, the den can hold multiple @lament thorn

lament thorn Dec 23, 2018, 8:03 PM

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ah sweet

still temple Dec 23, 2018, 8:03 PM

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Basically the passageway to the main chamber is rly narrow

viral creek Dec 23, 2018, 8:05 PM

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I just wanna see a dryo colony. Expanding the burrow for more dryos, and making exit tunnels 👀

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Just walk into a field, and there's just a bunch of holes lol

still temple Dec 23, 2018, 8:12 PM

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@regal sapphire ye Dryo was iffy to make, cus realistically Sth like Dryo wouldn’t be able to burrow in the first place.
And thx, glad you liked the suggestion 😄

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As for predator camping, I was thinking anything small enough to even manage to get into the Dryo burrow would also be vulnerable to Dryo’s regular attack

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Anything larger would be stuck outside the burrow, and the few seconds of disabled attack caused by dryo’s dust kick would be enough time for Dryo to get out of the burrow and escape

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Imo for a ferret Herrera to work, it would need to be made smaller and less chonky. The holotype size herrera would be good. Smaller herrera = less health = more vulnerable to Dryo attack, but much more nimble

📎 image0.png

lament thorn Dec 23, 2018, 9:42 PM

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yes please i want ferret herra

nova shell Dec 23, 2018, 10:04 PM

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@deft garden read the rules

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better yet read the channel descriptions

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this channel exists for a reason

stoic wing Dec 23, 2018, 11:53 PM

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I would rather have maia be a little slower than utah

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i mean even with these changes wouldn't it still have the same niche as giga?

stoic wing Dec 24, 2018, 12:23 AM

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So you have an ability which essentially turns Acro into a Giga for 30 secs?

blazing charm Dec 24, 2018, 12:36 AM

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Nyeh, I'm going back to the drawing board with this one.

jovial arch Dec 24, 2018, 12:42 AM

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@unborn quail I’m gonna have to disagree slightly with Maia, but tbh hadrosaurs need a new mechanic to be balanced

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Oh

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I actually like having Maia

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There’s a lot more to work with having both

unborn quail Dec 24, 2018, 12:44 AM

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wait whaty

viral creek Dec 24, 2018, 12:44 AM

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I like maia tbh

unborn quail Dec 24, 2018, 12:44 AM

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what about maia

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why have thou been summoned

jovial arch Dec 24, 2018, 12:44 AM

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Uh, it outspeeds utah

unborn quail Dec 24, 2018, 12:44 AM

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Utah also out maneuvers it

jovial arch Dec 24, 2018, 12:44 AM

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Yes

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But

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I feel like it should be a tad slower

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IMO tho hadrosaurs need acceleration

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And a new mechanic with it

unborn quail Dec 24, 2018, 12:45 AM

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Acceleration solves any issue witht hem being faster

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Hence why I left Para as is

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Speed won't matter much with acceleration

jovial arch Dec 24, 2018, 12:45 AM

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Oh the new para speed is great

unborn quail Dec 24, 2018, 12:46 AM

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That and Maia should have the ability to flee a utah Pack

jovial arch Dec 24, 2018, 12:46 AM

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I’m 100% on board with you

unborn quail Dec 24, 2018, 12:46 AM

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It being slower, it wouldn't

jovial arch Dec 24, 2018, 12:46 AM

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Yeah

unborn quail Dec 24, 2018, 12:46 AM

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Same goes for Para and allo

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Left it faster so it could flee a pack if need be

jovial arch Dec 24, 2018, 12:46 AM

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It’s kinda hard to solve the issue

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With just toying with speed

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Bruh

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My niche document is up to 39 pages

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I’m doing a complete revision

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dondiRIP

unborn quail Dec 24, 2018, 12:49 AM

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Stamina has too many factors that come into play

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That's the issue

jovial arch Dec 24, 2018, 12:49 AM

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^

unborn quail Dec 24, 2018, 12:49 AM

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Stamina regeneration while trotting

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Dilo has less stamina, but can regenerate it quicker then an Allo if in a prolonged chase

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That and if my speeds are taken into account, No amount of stamina will allow an allo to catch a dilo

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Same kinda goes now, Unless it's running in a straight line

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It should be fine

jovial arch Dec 24, 2018, 12:51 AM

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✅

unborn quail Dec 24, 2018, 12:52 AM

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Dibble should've always been Prey for the mid tiers period, Apexes have no business running them down, Kinda the reason no one plays them

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Good stamina regen or not, It won't save you from a determined giga

jovial arch Dec 24, 2018, 12:52 AM

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Yeah, it’s okay for them to die to ambushes

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But the way they are rn

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dondiYikes

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They don’t even beat Allo in a 1 v 1

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Uh

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It’s a battle of one hit

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If Allo gets one more hit

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Allo wins

unborn quail Dec 24, 2018, 12:53 AM

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Diablo is like anything else, Ambush it

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Don't try to do a head on unless in a pair

jovial arch Dec 24, 2018, 12:54 AM

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But you can win a head on with one more hit

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And if you screw up at 5 hits

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You just walk away

unborn quail Dec 24, 2018, 12:54 AM

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Better safe then sorry.

jovial arch Dec 24, 2018, 12:54 AM

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Yeah

unborn quail Dec 24, 2018, 12:55 AM

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Not to mention once locational damage exists

jovial arch Dec 24, 2018, 1:33 AM

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5 hits

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Precisely 5 hits

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5 hits to 4 hits, dibble dies Allos lives

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Uh

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Bleed

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It’s all about waiting

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It’ll take ~6-8 minutes

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But the Allo will win

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It’s the same thing with Giga vs trike, actually

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5 hits off Giga downs the trike

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But you need a one hit advantage or you need it to only stomp you

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Bleed is honestly pretty stupid

nova shell Dec 24, 2018, 1:42 AM

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fights should be short and brutal imo

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it would give people incentive to not want to turn the isle into a combat experience

jovial arch Dec 24, 2018, 1:42 AM

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Yes

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Standing there for 15 minutes

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Waiting for thectrike to die

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It’s pretty fucking stupid

nova shell Dec 24, 2018, 1:43 AM

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i mean

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i guess i meant combat in general

jovial arch Dec 24, 2018, 1:43 AM

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No

nova shell Dec 24, 2018, 1:43 AM

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once trike has its gore thing that wont be an issue methinks

jovial arch Dec 24, 2018, 1:43 AM

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I agree with you

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100%

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I think bleed needs a rework

nova shell Dec 24, 2018, 1:44 AM

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it should be less outright damage, more debuff

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i think the purpose of bleed shouldnt be to kill your prey necessarily, but to weaken it to the point where it cant fight back sufficiently anymore

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and tracking ofc

leaden night Dec 24, 2018, 1:44 AM

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Wasn't bleed going to be reworked to something mainly used for tracking or something

nova shell Dec 24, 2018, 1:45 AM

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that was just an idea tossed around

leaden night Dec 24, 2018, 1:45 AM

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Ah

nova shell Dec 24, 2018, 1:45 AM

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dondi was saying how he mightve wanted to make bleed dmg exclusive to giga and allo

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and just tracking for everything else

coarse skiff Dec 24, 2018, 1:45 AM

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This will be velos I think @cunning gulch

nova shell Dec 24, 2018, 1:45 AM

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but that would be dumb imo

cunning gulch Dec 24, 2018, 1:46 AM

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Why though? Have AI lay nests or something along with player nests

nova shell Dec 24, 2018, 1:46 AM

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or anything else lol

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literally anything can eat from nests

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steal eggs

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munch them

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why would you need ovi for that

leaden night Dec 24, 2018, 1:46 AM

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Debuff over dot would interesting

cunning gulch Dec 24, 2018, 1:46 AM

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not all dinosaurs are ovivarious.

waxen elk Dec 24, 2018, 1:46 AM

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You don't need oviraptor

nova shell Dec 24, 2018, 1:47 AM

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literally every carnivore is also ovivarious

cunning gulch Dec 24, 2018, 1:47 AM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

jovial arch Dec 24, 2018, 1:47 AM

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I had to

nova shell Dec 24, 2018, 1:47 AM

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i repent thee

leaden night Dec 24, 2018, 1:47 AM

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~~You can even argue for herbs eating eggs~~

waxen elk Dec 24, 2018, 1:47 AM

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When you have Velociraptor and maybe herrera and austro (unconfirmed)

nova shell Dec 24, 2018, 1:47 AM

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yeah anything that wants to can eat em if they had reason

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ex. eliminating competition, getting nutrients that are hard to ecquire ensewhere

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etc.

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herbivores could for sure eat em

leaden night Dec 24, 2018, 1:48 AM

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🤔

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I just suddenly thought of something to give Dibble

nova shell Dec 24, 2018, 1:49 AM

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ovi could be an omnivore or something, but it wouldnt be implemented any time soon

leaden night Dec 24, 2018, 1:49 AM

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Allow Dibble to eat gore/ribs

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dondiFeels

nova shell Dec 24, 2018, 1:49 AM

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thats gay

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stop that now

coarse skiff Dec 24, 2018, 1:49 AM

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dondiGross

leaden night Dec 24, 2018, 1:49 AM

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dondiFeels

nova shell Dec 24, 2018, 1:49 AM

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heresy

leaden night Dec 24, 2018, 1:49 AM

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What else could Dibble get

nova shell Dec 24, 2018, 1:50 AM

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idc

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diablo is a manlet trike

coarse skiff Dec 24, 2018, 1:50 AM

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A nice smile dondiCG

nova shell Dec 24, 2018, 1:50 AM

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diablo is to trike what alberto is to rex

leaden night Dec 24, 2018, 1:50 AM

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dondiFeels

nova shell Dec 24, 2018, 1:50 AM

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either irrelevant or a waste of a gimmick

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or both

coarse skiff Dec 24, 2018, 1:50 AM

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Devs probably have a plan 🤷

leaden night Dec 24, 2018, 1:50 AM

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Dibble is playable though