Can’t ask dondi since it’s all sub mode
#videos-and-streams
gusty apex
so sad too bad
knotty wagon
@coarse raptor Do you mean the big update for public branch?
gusty apex
we all knew what this game was going to be in the end
coarse raptor
Nope, the update coming up
knotty wagon
Oh kk.
coarse raptor
Whatever big update (assuming for dev branch only) is in the works :D
frozen cedar
Remember when he said he was playing around with the idea of a battle royale mode
knotty wagon
Turns out he wasn't lying, Battle Royal with Dinos inbound
gilded sable
I don't think he's going to make dinosaurs unplayable in the final product, mechanics like nesting sort of contradict that, no?
knotty wagon
10/10 best battle Royale
coarse raptor
It would be a great way for people on the dev branch to test out humans. No better way to do it other than to force people to do it
gilded sable
they'll probably be disabled for some time in EA or dev branch though.
gusty apex
@gilded sable not in the final product no
gilded sable
yeah, not gonna happen.
knotty wagon
Dinos are going to be playable in the final product otherwise what is the point of working on it...
frozen cedar
Tbh battle royale would be awesome with cannibals humans and tribals
coarse raptor
And who knows, this isn't our game - it's theirs. So if they want to do something with it, they can
granite rose
Evolve hunt mode with Strains
frozen cedar
3 different ways of playing battling it out
knotty wagon
@granite rose Fucking Genius Idea.
gilded sable
I don't mind dinosaurs being disabled, he needs a playerbase to test humans and all, obvs.
inner creek
rip servers
coarse raptor
Like I just said, yes :>
vital holly
As long as disabled dinosaurs are temporary just to get human testing done, I don’t see the issue
frozen cedar
Kill the 12 yr old dino lovers
drowsy orbit
Oof I came for the dinos and the dinos only
lost yarrow
^
gilded canopy
So many people will be in suggestions the day dondi removes the ability to play dinosaurs for human testing
lost yarrow
i'll just stop playing til dinos are up again
gilded sable
I'm fine if it drives away the preteen dino RPers, we'll get flocks of normie players instead
inner creek
I do not mind humans, but its a known fact that people do not read.
and when they buy the game and notice it will have humans they complain
coarse raptor
^
frozen cedar
Machine guns machetes and canniblism were a given
coarse raptor
This game was never meant to be a dino simulator
gilded canopy
DONDI ADD DINOS AGEN PLS I CANNOT PLAY WITHOUT DONIRSARS
frozen cedar
REEEE
lost yarrow
i knew there were going to be humans
gilded sable
normie players >>>>bratty preteen scalie RPers
lost yarrow
it didn't specify exclusively humans tho
frozen cedar
I’m more excited for suggestion like add Molotov
gilded canopy
it wont be exclusively humans
granite rose
Clearly because it has humans in it, it's a rip-off of Primal Carnage
lost yarrow
"The Isle is an open-world survival game where players choose from three factions in an attempt to survive a fierce island. Hunt. Prey. Survive."
coarse raptor
To be fair, we don't know how the game will turn out in the very end
frozen cedar
Add dong slider for tribal plez
cloud kettle
this game is constantly evolving
coarse raptor
^
dire bane
Maybe it wont turn out at all
knotty wagon
https://clips.twitch.tv/CuriousDeadTrayFrankerZ
Obv Bhal u right
cloud kettle
who knows what it will be
gilded sable
no point in adding a dong slider when there's gonna be a free mod for it
gilded canopy
mega dong
frozen cedar
But muh willyw
granite rose
implying the mod wouldn't be insta-banned from the workshop
drowsy orbit
Tribal helicopter physics wen
frozen cedar
This game needs M rating on release
granite rose
most games tbh
coarse raptor
Psh, steam lets so much crap go under their radar nowadays that I wouldn't be surprised to see a bunch of garbage mods for this game for people who are
into those sorts of things
gilded canopy
ah
waxen lily
dinosaurs with big, human feet
coarse raptor
We're gonna see that everywhere
waxen lily
gilded canopy
I hope dondi will fucking smite whatever mod resembles that mabel
coarse raptor
ohgodnotthehumanfeet
frozen cedar
Super smash dino
gilded canopy
furries are uckly
frozen cedar
Extreme mating DLC
coarse raptor
No
frozen cedar
Boob slider
coarse raptor
Shoo
cloud kettle
if and when the modpocolypse happens, I don't think i'll set foot outside of an official server again
I fear the mods to come.
coarse raptor
^
inner creek
I got you fam
cloud kettle
I don't want them to ruin my perception of the game
frozen cedar
Giant brachi dong mod
cloud kettle
I don't want to believe this game is for scalies
gilded canopy
oh jesus
granite rose
See
coarse raptor
They're already getting bad with the "pay us to use this reskin that's not available yet, but don't worry it will be in the future. Trust us. Wink wonk."
lost yarrow
map mods plz
gusty apex
let us never bring up giant dinosuars again after the hypozilla mod
frozen cedar
I just want map mods
gilded canopy
Low poly models and maps pls
frozen cedar
Those are the only important mods
inner creek
pfff
gilded canopy
multi your stand is weak leave
inner creek
my tag isn't tho.
gilded canopy
shit
cloud kettle
we already have a wolf mod, enforcing the furry stereotype
granite rose
Turtle Theri, Biped / Gliding Stego, lizard Megalosaurus / Iguanodon, Gwangi Allo, etc.
frozen cedar
Fli stego when
inner creek
puke mod wen @tight verge
coarse raptor
Yeah, the less shit we have to encourage furries or scalies or whatever to get their rocks off on this game or it's dinos, the better.
granite rose
coarse raptor
I'd rather have a fli stego with ultra mega awesome plate flapping action
frozen cedar
Unholy
cloud kettle
Still can't believe the first functional modded species in the game is a fucking wolf, not another dinosaur, not a monster, a wolf
sorry just still in disbelief about that
inner creek
they bought it.
cloud kettle
god
inner creek
don't give it the respect it deserves.
granite rose
Ye, market asset.
inner creek
its a mod.
cloud kettle
I know
gilded canopy
back when anthomnia posted a mod video about wolves
cloud kettle
It's just still bizarre to me
frozen cedar
Kermit the frog mod when
gilded canopy
fucking trash
frozen cedar
Cannibals are Kermit
coarse raptor
But Mabel muh wolfy oc needs to be able to run around with the dinos.
How else will bladeclaw get his awesome t/rex kills in this game?
cloud kettle
course the guy with a furry oc picture defends it
drowsy orbit
Wolves r gey
cloud kettle
🤷
coarse raptor
LOL
granite rose
See
gilded canopy
wolf am big gey
coarse raptor
Noice
gilded canopy
Those wolves they added were so bad
granite rose
I just find it weird they're tied to a server with a custom Giga with "ice armor"
gilded canopy
I dont want to remember them
granite rose
I mean
frozen cedar
Ise drargon
granite rose
They could've gone with this abomination https://www.unrealengine.com/marketplace/fantasy-wolf
frozen cedar
Rawr :3
granite rose
coarse raptor
Oh GOD
gilded canopy
OH JESUS
coarse raptor
That's worse than ARK's old dire wolf model
cloud kettle
bhal, please
gilded canopy
those things look fucking hideous
cloud kettle
spare us
granite rose
The one they chose is basically the best wolf on the UE4 market.
stoic plover
Low bar
inner creek
hi jurr
coarse raptor
Instead of muscles it just has tumors growing from it
frozen cedar
That sounds like this discord
gilded canopy
nah this discord is a cancerous mess that dondi cultivated
by letting cancer cells in everyone else has gone mad
cloud kettle
dondi didn't cultivate this, people were like this from the beginning
coarse raptor
Not really, it's not his fault that idiot people are here
Idiot people are everywhere. In this discord, they're allowed to have a voice. So, we hear a lot of dumb voices.
gilded canopy
Ive seen on many a occasion idiots not being smited by the blue men
coarse raptor
Yay internet
cloud kettle
freedom of speech is both a blessing and a curse
frozen cedar
I’m drawing a neuro giga, should I give a short tapir trunk just for shits and giggles ?
coarse raptor
Got that right Mabel
coarse raptor
coarse raptor
You dippity doo dah, you can say whatever you want in this discord. Freedom of speech here at work
wide herald
Is dondi showing the rex walking?
gilded canopy
hes messing with it rn
coarse raptor
Right now we're all staring at rex gooch
wide herald
Oh ok. I thought that maybe it was only me. xD
rancid merlin
Why was I tagged dafuq
knotty wagon
inner creek
dear god just give him an answer
gilded canopy
there is a stream content boyo i hope ya watchin
knotty wagon
No.
gilded canopy
its a dev stream
waxen lily
that was yesterday, anth
knotty wagon
Actually just Q/A Sort of.
waxen lily
someone tagged you
cloud kettle
nah, just him working on stuff with the promise of new content this stream
rancid merlin
I put the last stream at like 850ish with just tweets and discord stuff but I can’t do anything right now in a car
inner locust
with an announcement apparently "everyone will hate"
rancid merlin
So if it’s required you’re sol
knotty wagon
gilded canopy
unleashed the army of children upon the stream yesterday? good man
rancid merlin
Not yesterday
gilded canopy
oof
rancid merlin
Few weeks ago?
granite rose
That stream got a host from someone else
cloud kettle
didn't he hit like 3k views or something from the host?
dire bane
A what?
coarse raptor
Mistake, or hints at them potentially working on strafing? 👀
granite rose
1k+, wasn't there to see the full numbers cuz I had work
coarse raptor
It was literally just a second of the dino seemingly to walk normally, except to the side. Sliding despite the animation playing as if it was moving forward
summer bolt
90% sure there is a bug in their system that makes it so every dinosaur is turned 90% clockwise in the default position
degrees, not percentages
they need to manually make it -90 degrees to make it normal
coarse raptor
Ooooooof
granite rose
Kinda wanted to see IK with Stego
odd swan
An announcement we'll hate ?
coarse raptor
If it is what I think it is, then a lot of people will dislike it
odd swan
Is shant blackhole back ?
gilded canopy
shant itself isnt back
waxen lily
stop working on the game?
coarse raptor
Never, please
Shant deserves to be cast into the flames. Orrrrrr made into purely AI 
odd swan
Tribals are dlc
granite rose
I want to guess, but I don't want to cause worry with posting something
odd swan
He's going to pull an EA
waxen lily
dlc can be free @odd swan
coarse raptor
What's your guess Bhal?
waxen lily
it stands for "downloadable content" lol
odd swan
I see we have an intellectual here
granite rose
I'ma just wait if Don gets around to it, viper.
coarse raptor
👍
coarse tapir
In the same boat as bhal
waxen lily
IK rex stuff
coarse raptor
Duck walk, crab scuttle
coarse raptor
^
stone cedar
IK
chrome reef
Has it just been IK?
knotty wagon
nothing important since no one's blown up about anything yet
coarse raptor
IK's important
knotty wagon
totally
chrome reef
Out pleb
coarse raptor
I get to go home in around 20 mins, so with my luck I'm certain that while I drive home something big is going to happen
odd swan
Ik is interesting
chrome reef
Was there any uhh.. B r a c h i sightings?
coarse raptor
Look at that sassy drunk boi
chrome reef
That trike has issues
wide herald
OMG
gusty apex
oh my god
lol
torn kindle
rich bay
chrome reef
Its kinda survival sandbox tbh though right
Open world and the player can kinda do what they want
A sandbox game doesnt immediately translate to the sandbox MODE
I dont really know
lean valley
'I got banned for speed hacking'
coarse raptor
What a weenie
sterile wigeon
Who said that?
lean valley
Some guy on stream asking Don and Punch to un-ban 'em
coarse tapir
LOL
coarse raptor
He was banned for speed hacking, so he came onto the stream to ask to be unbanned
coarse tapir
Clip Dondi's response
coarse raptor
Heading home, I'm sure this chat will have exploded if something big is announced/shown while I'm on my commute
lean valley
Well dondi just said that the 'Big Boi' stuff will happen later in stream
coarse raptor
Fuck yes, hopefully not in the 40 mins it takes
Okaybyehavefunladsandladies
granite rose
Damn it Skype
solid galleon
What did I miss from stream
static parcel
you missed everything.
granite rose
IK stuff.
solid galleon
Oh ok
sterile wigeon
RIP herbis
lost yarrow
i like this idea of tinnitus for the affinity system tho
aside from it being annoying u won't be able to hear things running up on u
coarse raptor
Thank you for the clips! And why rip herbis?
granite rose
inner creek
finally.
waxen lily
coarse raptor
That is deliciously vague but I love the hint
waxen lily
that might mean rip carnis, aswell
pliant veldt
oof
inner creek
nah, he only mentioned herbs.
coarse raptor
The way he laughed and emphasized certain words makes me grin
coarse raptor
PSHHHHH
inner creek
I think they mean 1/5th 🤔
lost yarrow
tfw some people actually like playing herbivores
inner creek
what stego ?
lost yarrow
going galli and just running all over broadcasting
pliant veldt
i remember when i broke carnivore legs and let them fend for themselves
knotty wagon
I always play carnivore so I dont care if herbies get removed, even if some of you guys like those bush eaters
pliant veldt
as a maia
lost yarrow
ai's are so boring to hunt tho
pliant veldt
nah i like being a stego and bitch slapping allos back then
lost yarrow
they're predictable
knotty wagon
With the affinity system, how would it affect herbies running across a field to kill a carnivore was the question. Dondi said herbies wont be an issue anyimore
pliant veldt
the question is
what will happen to herbs
they can't just be fucking removed
lol
inner creek
sadly they can.
knotty wagon
They can all be made to be AI
pliant veldt
yeah but there are players who like being herbivores
inner creek
mods.
knotty wagon
I dont think Dondi cares man
inner creek
the answer to most of these are mods.
knotty wagon
I think they are going to be playable..
But I mean lets not assume things by what that statement was. We dont know the answer
inb4 dryo is only playable herb
pliant veldt
but the thing is why would they remove herbivores when they injected stegos into dev they might be the next dinosaur to survival. Like dibble and dryo injections to survival dev servers before they got into survival
granite rose
Assuming it'd be permanent if he were to remove herbies.
inner creek
why wouldn't it be ?
lost yarrow
all this trouble of fixing herbi food and balancing herbis and the life stage models just to make them all AI's
y
granite rose
-shrug-
knotty wagon
Don't read too much into it guys.
waxen lily
@pliant veldt
you do know
that they could've injected it
to check how it'd do as AI?
pliant veldt
waxen lily
"it was injected" is not a valid argument
pliant veldt
just like dryo dibble and other dinosaurs ? They got into survival a few months later u see sucho injected in official dev and now we got its new model. It's small evidence :p
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waxen lily
stego was injected a few weeeks ago, atleast
waxen lily
it did-. people saw austros on thenyaw dev 3 I believe.
pliant veldt
i don't remember a acro or austro injection
those are rumors
there are videos about how players got injected as stegos or suchos in YT i believe
such as laacer
waxen lily
I didn't say stego or sucho weren't injected
pliant veldt
i think we should go to #401464048610312195 😂
granite rose
Bunch of Q&A questions
marble jungle
wait, what is the big spoiler, ofc i wasn't listening the second punch said that
granite rose
"How will Cannibals become playable" was the question
marble jungle
oh, thanks man
waxen lily
lyric helm
this dude is a prankster
pliant veldt
lmao
gilded sable
IDK what to think, tbh it wouldn't surprise me if herbivores do get removed from the game for being too much of a hassle to implement
it's hard to tell when Dondi's joking or being serious sometimes
old arch
Whenever anything is said just ask yourself how much work would be wasted if said thing were to happen
compact vector
herbivores being removed is super fucking depressing
gilded sable
IDK, I just remember the sauropod situation, you never know
compact vector
they have so much potential
knotty wagon
Now I think we will see more Utah players..
gilded sable
but it doesn't seem final, so I'll hold out until anything is official
summer bolt
herbivores are depressing 
compact vector
you're cool
rich bay
Playable herbivores are being removed? Lol only carnivore playables aside from humans sounds like it'd go stale pretty quick
gilded sable
well, the playerbase speaks for itself, it does prefer carnivores
normal pasture
i like herbis
summer bolt
eh, the majority of people enjoy carnivore gameplay as evidenced by the fact that they play like carnivores even as herbivores
old arch
Herbivores mostly thrive in herd situations
rich bay
Hunting primarily players > Hunting primarily ai
old arch
But like.... Nobody plays them
tropic patrol
rip herbis
old arch
So you end up being that one maia
tropic patrol
i liked gallimimus tho
summer bolt
they could have some small playable herbs I guess
gilded sable
on the other hand, I do think that herbivores in general offer more gameplay variety since they come in so many sizes, variations and forms from the standard bipedal carnivore... but
summer bolt
herbivores mostly become a problem when they get a lot of killing capacity while being easy to maintain because they just eat plants
gilded sable
the playerbase prefers carnivores, so be it
rich bay
Well there goes a shit load of potentional, especially for things like Stego and Trike
gilded sable
this is assuming it's actually happening though
lyric helm
If it happens it'd be dumb as fuck
summer bolt
trikes and stegos are an issue because they can bully carnivores as top tier herbivores even though they're generally easier to grow up as
rich bay
I hope it's not happening tbh
static parcel
they're slow though
rich bay
^
gilded sable
^ might as well say the same about apex carnivores. just remove them too
rich bay
If all herbis can't be playable, why should apexes remain?
compact vector
people don't play herbivore as much because it isn't as interesting and there's no incentive not to be aggressive. there are ways to make the gameplay more interesting that have yet to be explored
summer bolt
apex carnivores are harder to grow up as, and are planned to be removed aswell regardless
static parcel
apex carnivores still planned to be gone?
you sure about that
its been long since they last talked about that
summer bolt
speed doesn't matter when you can just colonize a watering hole and guard it from all other dinosaurs
lyric helm
just remove all dinos and add humans and let this be a battle royale game
gilded sable
it was mentioned a while back, but people didn't know if it referred to EA or the finalized game
summer bolt
yeah it was just discussed on stream
lyric helm
That's in case the game leaves early acces
heavy hinge
gilded sable
I think herbivores have the potential to be interesting once AI is introduced. my concern is that the playerbase won't play as them anyway because most people simply don't think they're as cool as carnivores.
well, I mean, it's true
silk roost
But trike's popularity though
rich bay
Meh, It's probably more of a "I can be the strongest thing in-game!"
gilded sable
I think I'm just jumping to conclusions though. who knows if they're really being remove or not.
rich bay
That's probably why there were so many Trikes back when it was good
lyric helm
He's probably just joking
rich bay
Hopefully
waxen lily
rip carnivores lol.
gilded sable
hopefully, yeah
waxen lily
all dinos*
gilded sable
it's hard to tell with him sometimes
static parcel
I get that people like the idea of only Carno-Rex-Utah, but I actually don't fancy any of those three dinosaurs.
knotty wagon
Punchpacket said this earlier in stream when someone asked about apexes being unplayable
Punchpacket: @michaelmoony20 When did anyone say they would not be playable?
Soooo yeah apexes will be playable
waxen lily
gilded sable
meh so I'm probably just jumping to conclusions, definitely
gilded canopy
however i cant wait for the mass ammount of people asking for herbi in suggestions after they are fucking ** Y E E T E D O U T T H E W I N D O W**
knotty wagon
Everyone jumps to conclusions and its annoying as fuck
gilded canopy
its fun to get roasted
gilded sable
yeah, I was just being stupid and getting removed sauropod flashbacks
then again it's EA and you never know what could happen
compact vector
non sublocked chat is going amazing
waxen lily
sterile wigeon
I wanna know how crazy tribal tribe locations will be able to get
Totally asking for that dream of parasitic sauropod tribe
I heard the question get asked, what was his response?
lone cargo
I had to go for a bit did I miss anything?
copper bane
What did he say about diseases?
jovial sigil
copper bane
ah thx
sterile wigeon
What did he say about huts on sauropod backs?
jovial sigil
pliant sundial
jovial sigil
lone cargo
how did he get the gyazo so quick?
jovial sigil
Gyazo is very versatile
lone cargo
oh ye
waxen lily
he's revealing something
lone cargo
it freezes it
lone cargo
and you do cool stuff
jovial sigil
I just noticed the little compies in the bottom right corner in the first pic
lone cargo
already posted lol
sterile wigeon
Does anyone know what he said about tribal huts on sauropod backs?
lone cargo
he never adressed it
rich bay
Those compies were the 1st thing I noticed lol
molten carbon
Its about to go down
novel sail
looks like a tapwing for sure 😃
waxen lily
/i feel like that 1 otther person who knew the stuff he's gonna reveal is tap/
knotty wagon
~ what strain is in that tree tho
hmmm?
sterile wigeon
I thought I heard it being asked? @lone cargo
granite rose
Looks like Tap's style
sterile wigeon
Also, I like how that plant is growing out of another tree, don't see much beyond that
spare zenith
clippers be ready
granite rose
Oh.
sterile wigeon
I remember that picture from a Meaty video
I'm just surprised Cannibals aren't Cannibals
rich bay
Lol the real tribals were right in front of us before and we didn't even realize it
coarse raptor
:O I LOVE THEM
rich bay
Bet that took Khrone by surprise lol
coarse raptor
Lol his "Not mayan" comment was pointed
waxen lily
@knotty wagon buddy ol pal
rich bay
He's basically the Tribal esque equivalent to what Aliens is to Allo
granite rose
Neat
waxen lily
huh
sterile wigeon
Image was shown by meaty a while ago
granite rose
It's been around for ages.
prisma flume
just waiting on theories now
granite rose
I also get the feeling there'll be a sudden increase in fan "Strain Plant" designs.
copper bane
BRUH
lone cargo
we all saw the images before
copper bane
so they are the same thing
waxen lily
OH SHIT WE AINT DONE
knotty wagon
When don was talkin bout how the replicator definitely plays favorites
I felt chills go down my entire back xD
lone cargo
how does that send chills down your back?
sterile wigeon
¯_(ツ)_/¯
knotty wagon
It just sounds so cool and creepy
knotty wagon
And slightly disturbing lol
granite rose
Oh my
spare zenith
blood for the blood gods
waxen lily
dondi is becoming insane
jovial sigil
pliant dew
Nah it wasn't
granite rose
Don will probably toss 'em on twitter or in the #announcements later.
I doubt Tapwing would send me the ones shown if I were to ask, so I won't bother
pliant dew
waxen lily
i'm uploading a clip for it, aliens
fleet olive
Oohh helipad
jovial sigil
pliant veldt
i wanna be them coelacanth and slap suchos
jovial sigil
fleet olive
Planes???
knotty wagon
I'm so out of the loop; can someone explain what's going on
fleet olive
Planes apparently
pliant sundial
novel sail
Megalodon
pliant sundial
Aquatic Pens
jovial sigil
pliant sundial
jovial sigil
sterile wigeon
I know
jovial sigil
sterile wigeon
@waxen lily That's what I said
jovial sigil
pliant sundial
jovial sigil
sterile wigeon
People are wondering what that holds
Ignoring the hint that they fly shit into here
jovial sigil
pliant sundial
fleet olive
Obviously it’s for the hypo quetz which is 100% coming into the game
calm canopy
Is it weird that I am watching dondi stream while taking a shower lol I just don’t wanna miss nothing that’s all😩
sterile wigeon
Definitely Tapwing
halcyon beacon
I think they are alluding to either finishing off a few more dinosaurs or stopping where they are at with dinosaurs and then just putting them on the backburner in development in favor of humans
I can completely understand this position
chrome reef
Damn, strain plants
I thought it was a meme at first
But oh shit
Looks scary as heck
granite rose
Yeesh, thrown to the wolves
pliant sundial
As it seems
There is dozens upon dozens of concepts tapwing has made we have not seen
sterile wigeon
Are we sure the huts on sauropod backs question went unanswered?
solid galleon
My stream keeps dying, is anyone clipping all the questions?
sterile wigeon
I don't think so
solid galleon
Fuuuuck
inner creek
bhalt was
sterile wigeon
I've been wanting to know his answer to the huts on sauropod back for a while now
sterile wigeon
I heard punch ask it and I swear I heard a bit of Dondi answering, but nobody seems to know
lean valley
Cerato rework seems to be all but confirmed.
rich bay
Apparently, Bryan's doing Cerato's rig when someone asked about Cerato's rework
lean valley
That would be me
lean valley
b-But that's an IF statement!!1 c-Cera r-Rex is st-staying
Dreams really do come true
sterile wigeon
One day I'll find out if I can make a parasitic tribe on a sauropod's back
coarse raptor
You having a seizure or something Nova? 
sterile wigeon
Spam "NERF SINGED" in one guy's stream
We'll make it so he can see nothing but NERF SINGED
chrome reef
Yeah one stomp and that little village goes bye bye
prisma plover
Can't camp lakes if theres rivers, streams & hotsprings 🤣
chrome reef
Makes sense to me
knotty wagon
WATCH ME CHIMI
halcyon beacon
Honestly
knotty wagon
YOU CANT TELL ME WHAT TO DO
halcyon beacon
Rivers and lakes are so great
knotty wagon
IM A FREE MAN
thorny cloud
Dondi, why nerf singed?
halcyon beacon
for de-focalizing carnevore playstyles
@thorny cloud Singed is pretty toxic to both play against and in character
I really like the way the rivers and streams look on this map
teal merlin
At least we are still spamming TTS
merry kernel
Woah we at 61? We need to bring that back up!
inner creek
hm ?
granite rose
https://clips.twitch.tv/BoringEnthusiasticDiscGingerPower
https://clips.twitch.tv/MagnificentNeighborlyMarjoramAsianGlow
lean valley
Anyone have the 'Mods' clip?
drowsy orbit
anyone got a full version of this OST?
https://clips.twitch.tv/InquisitiveFurtiveClipsmomRickroll
swift cliff
merry kernel
Clips highlights show just about all of it I think. No clips on the cages and stuff but yeah
And no doubt someone took a picture of the map
drowsy orbit
nani was the big reveal
compact vector
is there no more stream tonight then
lost yarrow
...so does anybody know what song is playing in the Twitch clip up there or
merry kernel
@lost yarrow all I know is Anth and Meaty also use it, so ask them i guess
merry kernel
Opening music? Maybe its during the videos. Yeah probably in their description.
lost yarrow
👌
merry kernel
@compact vector Dondi showed alot of stuff, he is hosting someone right now, pretty cool guy.
compact vector
i know he showed a lot of stuff earlier
merry kernel
I doubt he will continue streaming, as he did not suggest anything of the sort.
Though I'm no certified "Dondoligist"
compact vector
i guess, there's still a couple things he said he would get to later like elaborating what he meant by, "herbivores not being a problem anymore"
like that was really concerning for me at least
merry kernel
Thats fair. You can stay up to see if he will. Unfortunately i will not.
halcyon beacon
I don’t think later means today
They said they were going to do a megapost about playable dinosaurs
inner creek
oh ?
compact vector
shits fucked man
it just doesn't make any sense, i've even played with staff in large herbivore groups and they can acknowledge that it's fun. i can live with shit like large herbivores being moved to non-playable but stuff like dryo, galli, diablo, and maia is so easy to set up like they don't need a lot to be interesting
running away from stuff is fun and doing it with friends is even better
arguably more fun than any moment i've had on a carnivore
and the staff know that
so i will be expressly disappointed if they drop herbivores
i think in general the idea of removing them appears needless
halcyon beacon
The problem with herbivores is that the gameplay is very simple or easy to comprehend if you just hide
I actually greatly enjoy playing herbivores but I can see why people say it isn't very thrilling sometimes
I can understand (although don't agree with) non playable sauropods already, but imposing all of this on the entire herbivore faction would be overkill. Regardless, It's pretty obvious that herbivores aren't as popular as carnivores to play. I bet the developers have statistics outright saying so.
whole bane
Is that for survival mode or in general?
lost yarrow
in general
whole bane
So it's planned to remove them all as playable....🤔
pearl lance
Pretty sure that even if herbs won't be playable in official survival there will always be sandboxes and modded servers
lost yarrow
i mean just fuck the part of the playerbase that likes playing herbivores if this is gonna be a thing
south talon
Dondi's gonna snap his fingers and all the herbies are gonna disappear
whole bane
As well as a portion of the playerbase
sick kernel
I don't know if he's being serious or not.
whole bane
Probably not, he's smarter than that...
summer bolt
It's not like removing herbivores hasn't been an idea within the dev team ever since the game first came out with playable herbs
The reasoning could be anything from game balancing issues to herbivore gameplay just not fitting the brutal tone they are going for
knotty wagon
Besides, human players would probs replace the loss of herbivore players if it goes into effect and people actually leave
whole bane
That's a very big assumption Giga... and yes Niko I know. The difference is, changing it back then vs. changing it now and the impact it would have.
halcyon beacon
I think it's more likely an announcement that herbivores aren't as popular as humans or carnivores and that herbivore mechanics will be put on the backburner indefinately
knotty wagon
Why give them lifecycles? Why release para? If they won't be playable in survival it wouldn't make sense. I'd wait to hear it from Dondi himself and not assume anything.
placid socket
^
whole bane
For me, I play both sides and have fun .. I also can't wait for hoomans
halcyon beacon
Was the ^ to my post or steel's
placid socket
urs
Don's got things figured out and is approx. five steps down the line, I wouldn't worry about it too much
halcyon beacon
I mean, saying herbivores aren't as popular as carnivores is pretty much an objective truth
knotty wagon
There's plenty more mechanics we need and things to be reworked before worrying about herbivore mechanics in specific. I'm not worried.
Whatever happens, happens unfortunately. It is his game.
halcyon beacon
It's really hard to argue that herbivores are equally as popular as carnivores whenever dev 4 has 20 allos on at once but there's possibly less herbivore players on than allo players on at any given time
summer bolt
I'm just seeing a lot of people going herbivore for the ease of survival and the power you get in return, and then just playing it like they're a carnivore. Ruins my immersion most of the time.
halcyon beacon
Lets ask for a second to look at the currently designed herbivores in the game:
summer bolt
So a big chunk of the herb community still seems to lean towards aggressive carnivore-like gameplay
halcyon beacon
Triceratops, Parasaurolophus, Diabloceratops, Gallimimus, Dryosaurus, Maiasaura are the 6 at the moment
Of which, I only see Para and Trike regularly
Occasionally galli, maia, or diablo
For all the complaining people had about dryo not being in survival, I don't see many people play as it?
Imagine the effort on remodeling and creating a juvenile model of dryo only for it to have like 2-3 players at most playing it at any particular time
Most of the time not even that many.
summer bolt
I'd also like to add that para and trike bring some of the biggest balance issues to the table since they rival large carnivores with their power, but are comparatively a cakewalk to grow up as
halcyon beacon
I will note that Parasaurolophus is a moderated version of the Shantungosaurus, which thank god that isn't in survival at the moment.
summer bolt
Shantu would be right up there with trike if it were added into survival
Simply too strong or a herbivore to let players play as imo
halcyon beacon
I guess what I'm trying to get at is
I don't think the herbivores currently in survival are going to be outright removed after the work got put in for them, but I don't think we'll be getting many more, or the mechanics for them, for a while considering that Isle development is spread thin between a limited number of people, and clearly the people who want human stuff and carnivore stuff outnumber the people who want herbivore stuff
It's even more apparent when some game breaking bugs only apply to carnivore players and not herbivore players
(Noting corpses in particular in this case, how death on a slope or in water can deprive a carnivore of a well earned meal just because someone wanted to be a douche)
calm canopy
Herbi is here to stay regardless of the gameplay of the Dino you get diversity and that’s what’s special bout the isle also as far as balancing needed yeah you could say that bout just everything else in the isle soo let’s not make herbi some sore thumb in the game now.
halcyon beacon
I mean, herbivores have very simple and straight forward gameplay in survival, but it's all they really need.
They don't really have any of the bugs that plague carnivore players
calm canopy
Same thing with carnis
Simple
Don’t get eating
But do the eating
Pack up
Use tactics
halcyon beacon
Currently in game as a herbivore, you look for edible plants which do not move in pre-determined locations on the map.
summer bolt
The 'balancing issue' with herbivores is that they gain a comparatively large amount of power as carnivores with a fraction of a fraction of the effort required. Y'know, since plants don't need to be hunted before you can eat 'em and all that
halcyon beacon
A carnivore has to depend on moving targets most of the time, grapple with said moving target, then regains resources after securing a kill.
whole bane
Yes, carnivore usually is more played than herb. I also understand that the dev team does do their best at getting things done or fixed. All I'm saying is they shouldn't be removed... maybe the new stuff slowed until after certain things are in and balanced. Saying you only see what ever dino is opinion based and shouldn't be included because I have seen and been in large dryo herds as well as gali and maia. As far as balance in general, you can say that about anything like @calm canopy said.
halcyon beacon
I don't think they'll remove what's already in the game. I just don't think herbivores will be a priority of development for the foreseeable future.
They'll keep the simple gameplay they have now, with not many new herbivores being added to survival for a while.
calm canopy
Herbs don’t have bone break soo they got what they got to DEFEND themselves also a thrill in the game and carnis got what they need to survive it’s about tactic play with someone herd up pack up communications
halcyon beacon
From a game design perspective, a Herbivore doesn't need any interaction to sustain itself at all while a carnivore player does
you can basically afk in a corner of the map with water and food as a herbivore and as long as you know a good hiding spot nearby you'll make it
summer bolt
This might be #401464048610312195 material
calm canopy
Stop comparing large herbi like you balancing them to do a cell cage match with meat eaters
summer bolt
Not related to any stream in any relevant way that I can see rn
halcyon beacon
I'll move this conversation into that channel but I definitely feel like I'm on the right track.
keen summit
Can someone link here that cannibal - tribal concept?
chrome reef
Im also quite fairly disappointed in the herbivore news. Tbh i think the two main problems are power/relative ease of play which can be solved with balancing. But to take them out of survival completely? What?
waxen lily
more likely as ai rather than out of survival completely
pearl lance
If they are getting removed then my guess is that Dondi got quite fed up with herbs and/or those who play them. We got all these life stages on multiple herbs and only not too long ago he was talking about pachy and possible influence that affinity would have on herbs. Also about the backlash the playerbase would bring with a bunch of dinos being removed.
Orrr maybe it's all just a prank bro.
pearl lance
Yeah. I'm just speculating.
He did say something like "just remove them all", but it also could very well be a joke.
cloud kettle
I wouldn't be surprised if he's serious. Herbivores weren't planned to be playable in the first place. Plus I'm sure people will mod in playable herbivores again if they do get removed as a class.
oh
wait
the message i saw was a long time ago
pearl lance
I like herbs, I like playing them as well as hunting other player herbs. I wouldn't mind to try and see how the game will be without them, but then I'd like to see bigger and much more advanced AI herbs as a replacement.
cloud kettle
So long as all the herbivores currently in survival become AI I wouldn't mind. People would still see the same herbivores around, even more of them probably.
coarse raptor
In terms of balance, it would be a lot easier to balance out carnivores only versus carnivores and herbivores both separately and together. A lot of the balance issues we've been seeing will be cut down if they remove herbs as playable. That's something that people might not consider - that herbivores and the work that went into them can stay if they're AI. You only lose that progress if they're removed completely.
Then we have humans incoming, whenever they do. When that happens, we'll have to strike balances between the human factions as well as how they function alongside dinosaurs.
pearl lance
I'm afraid AI herbs will be annoying and dumb.
Everyone and their dog liked oros till they became so abundant and obnoxious.
summer bolt
Honestly though, demanding them to do all these things like keeping the herbs in the game and balancing them, demainding new creatures, demanding humans, etc. is a bit ridiculous when you consider that they're just people behind the scenes. Sometimes things are just too much for people to handle and you need to let go of some features.
That could also be a factor in the desitionmaking
coarse raptor
No, they still like them. They were put in to help carnivore players find food, since carnivore player's food doesn't remain stationary and spawn in easily located positions.
We're just used to them now, but when they first came out they were well received.
pearl lance
Yeah, I'm not demanding anything tbh. Just waiting to see what they're cooking.
What I suggest is not to remove something out of the game before the intended replacement is mostly finished.
Which is probably the idea anyway.
coarse raptor
I don't think they're hinting at removing herbivores from the game entirely. Just as playable, if that really was what Dondi was hinting at during the stream yesterday
lone cargo
it was definetly refering to playable herbs
coarse raptor
"Out of the game" and "Non-playable" are two entirely different things
lone cargo
there is NO WAY that dondi would not have AI herbs
pearl lance
I meant a feature. To remove a feature of playable herbs.
Is there, like, any other game with playable herbivore dinosaurs? Nothing comes to mind.
coarse raptor
Maybe there's a reason for that
tropic patrol
Well maybe if we didn’t have shit like dryo they would be more interesting
Galli for example is good
Para is okay?
But that’s it imo
coarse raptor
And again, mods. So I'm sure that for those who like to play herb there will be ways to do so
cloud kettle
Whether Dondi decides to keep herbivores as playable or not, I support it either way. I'm sure he will make it work.
coarse raptor
^
coarse raptor
Exactly
pearl lance
Mods for sure, but if the development on herbs halts that means no new models and no more juvies, or animations, or sounds. Who really cares much about AI?
But I suppose that's the whole point. To redirect development towards other features.
cloud kettle
Yeah, I mean I would much rather see new features than more herbivores tbh.
That's just my opinion though.
coarse raptor
Oh for sure
waxen lily
Id rather see mñnew features than dinosaurs
coarse raptor
And... Modders can make new models, animations, and sounds.
waxen lily
New* god
pearl lance
I guess I'd take herbs being out of official game mod in exchange for fixed dev kit.
Wishful thinking, but still.
waxen lily
People talk bout all that sucho eating fish, but... Isn't herbivore gameplay literally the same, just eating grass instead of fish?
tropic patrol
Pfft what
pearl lance
My thought exactly
waxen lily
<hey guys sucho is boring
<plays herbivore
pearl lance
Except fishing might be a mini-game and be less abundant than vegetation.
waxen lily
coarse raptor
And fish aren't stationary. We don't even know how fishing is going to work yet - unless something was said yesterday that I missed on stream
pearl lance
I guess we will have to see.
Hiding in water is more important, arguably.
If fishing isn't ready yet sucho could just take cerato's place.
waxen lily
BTW didn't we see new swimming animations? Or is that the current one? (Utah, at least)
It looks much closer to the water, unlike what we have now (?)
coarse raptor
That seems different to me, if I'm not remembering incorrectly. I thought the Utah's current swim has more of a snakelike or crocodillian esque movement to it. More side-to-side
pearl lance
I remember an ooold clip of austro's funky swimming, but that's about it
tropic patrol
I hope Austro and Herrera make it
abstract wasp
Yeah same, I would be surprised if Austro doesn't, would make sense to have a small swimmer and a large swimmer
waxen lily
I hope not
abstract wasp
waxen lily
If you make a small swimmer and a large swimmer
Then add a small bleeder, a small Crusher, a small etc etc. See how that argument is kinda bad?
abstract wasp
True
waxen lily
Making it a small fisher doesnt change that it's the exactly same niche
abstract wasp
But if you just have Sucho and Deino as the only swimmers, than the swimmers are both pretty strong, there should be a smaller weaker one to even it out
waxen lily
Oh, a smaller weaker one barely anybody would play since it gets fucked by everything?
abstract wasp
I think that would probably change once it's in survival
waxen lily
Utah would still kill it
abstract wasp
It would get buffed and stuff
waxen lily
And be faster probably, too
abstract wasp
Ehh, maybe. But idk, they're around the same size
waxen lily
Pounce
abstract wasp
Utah would probably be faster yeah
oh true
But Austro would have the advantage of being able to go underwater, a Utah can't do that
So Austro could stay around water and hide when it needs to
waxen lily
But then
Austros niche
Is suchos niche, but a Chinese rip off
The same but smaller.
abstract wasp
But couldn't the same be said about dryo and galli? Or Diablo and Trike?
coarse raptor
Austro would have the advantage of being able to go underwater? Where can we see him diving underwater?
I mean, the last we heard the devs weren't sure what to do with austro right? Did that change?
abstract wasp
There was an animation that showed it diving, and i remember Dondi mentioning it can dive
coarse raptor
I'd love to see it, genuinely
keen summit
Dondi has stated that he doesn't like a plenty of playable creatures we have now, remember?
tropic patrol
Ah yes
waxen lily
Blueanzo, those you mentioned will probably (most likely) get their own special abilities, or else Don wouldn't have added them. Only way I see austro being added as playable is if they give it that puking suggestion
tropic patrol
Another dumbass with the “astrsrrptr is 2 meter long” logic
waxen lily
An austro wouldn't take an Utah.
Utah would pounce on it and rip its guts out
Plus, Utah is more heavily built than austro and that'll probably stay the same
coarse raptor
@tropic patrol Another austro fanboy that wants a dino as playable in survival just because they like it?
If it doesn't fill a niche or being anything worthwhile to survival why ad it? If it does, then great - but just having it be a 'small fisher' isn't a good argument to have it in. Even if it's around the same size as a utah, so what? So it's a utah that can fish too? Exciting.
Oh and that can't pounce. Cool.
waxen lily
(did I even say it was 2 meters long?)
coarse raptor
Nope
drowsy orbit
oof
tropic patrol
Utah is overrated
waxen lily
tropic patrol
Same with you
drowsy orbit
squint emote best emote
tropic patrol
coarse raptor
Can you think of anything, genuinely, that would set it apart from Utah, make it so that people just don't choose other dinos over it, and brings something fresh to survival?
coarse raptor
And you don't get to call people dumbass and shrink away when someone calls you out.
waxen lily
coarse raptor
You know what's the difference though?
Utah is in survival already
coarse raptor
👍
waxen lily
~~oh no something alot of people like is in the game and it's taking muh feavouriite dinosaure plaece, most bee oooverratreed
tropic patrol
Yes
It’s meant to live in packs
But still doesn’t take away the fact that finding one wasn’t easy
tropic patrol
Yes
waxen lily
tropic patrol
You see none of my friends play this game
waxen lily
And that makes a dinosaur boring? Kay
tropic patrol
Yes
waxen lily
tropic patrol
latent moat
This doesn't seem relevant to streams
coarse raptor
I'm still waiting on the clip of an austro diving